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dense goblet
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U get the 2 logo

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Put in im the 3rd and 4th

sage cradle
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so this is not a serious problem at all

dense goblet
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Yes

sage cradle
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no one can confirm how these difference affect the value they represent

dense goblet
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Wait nvm

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The last 2 clock symbol diff

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Fuck

sage cradle
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so literally the answer can be any number

elfin trail
eternal glade
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isnt it 17

frosty nimbus
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There one problem

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If its x

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The next is like

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Half of x

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U can see it isnt same

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symbol

copper snow
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not really math per se but do you guys know any apps similar to mathway but its free

severe saffron
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calculator and google

copper snow
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calculator 😭

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i meant like for stuff that simplifies expression and show you steps

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mathway is paywall'd and photomath is janky so yeah

dense goblet
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What u guys think

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I think it wont take off

dim echo
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this is elementary school physics

dense goblet
elfin trail
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Blud im learning kuhn tucker now wth

elfin trail
severe saffron
# dense goblet

Theory from a guy that skipped every physics lesson in his life: It will fly off but a little then return back to conveyor belt

frosty nimbus
sage cradle
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yes

frosty nimbus
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🤯

dense goblet
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Real

elfin trail
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Amogus

dense goblet
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We love among us

frosty nimbus
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Slove the f(among us)

elfin trail
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Now

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Uhh

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Integrate amogus

elfin trail
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Yo

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Having SVM, NN, and bayes classification test today

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How tf to do support vector machine manually

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Blud

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I only understand bayes classification

frosty nimbus
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77+33=100

frosty nimbus
elfin trail
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Basically

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"How to group this thing"

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The ez one is cluster analysis 💀

elfin trail
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Yo

elfin trail
dense goblet
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GG

frosty nimbus
elfin trail
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Yo go math

dense goblet
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Laplace

subtle drum
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fourier

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gauss-ostrogradsky

elfin trail
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Nobody :
Gauss about to collab with every mathematican and their discovery will be named with "gauss-[insert collaborator]" :

elfin trail
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Update

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Now i learn how to do fourier representation for time series

frosty nimbus
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Who revive this chat

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O it discord delay for one day

elfin trail
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I can understand doing fourier transform for time series function Zt

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But what the hell is spectral analysis

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My brain is fried rn

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So there is spectral thingy

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You could transform autocovariance gamma_k with fourier transform

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But how tf it connect with spectral thingy my brain is gone

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So my class uses wei's book

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Ok so Zt = A1cos(pi t/2) + A2sin(pi t/2) ; t = 0, +-1, +-2, ...

A1 and A2 is independent random variables, with mean = 0, var = phi

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Find autocov function gamma_k for Zt, and check if gamma_k is absolutely summable, and find spectral distribution function of Zt wth

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@math nerds

elfin trail
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Yoooo

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Now learning about backpropagation

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Doing the manual

elfin trail
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Yooo

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Pls summon math nerds here

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Now i have work to use 3 packages in r to do regression using MLP

severe saffron
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just google it man

frosty nimbus
elfin trail
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Real

bright mesa
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ii) is crazy

wintry haven
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ah wait nvm

elfin trail
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Update : i just did intervention model in time series 💀

elfin trail
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Wake up oi

frosty nimbus
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No

dim echo
dim echo
elfin trail
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*gave up at p(x) = erf(...)

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erf is gauss error function and i never see it used for CDF kyasadhole

elfin trail
frosty nimbus
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No

dim echo
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here's more

elfin trail
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I can conclude : FC probability is cool

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Now time to fix my skill issue

frosty nimbus
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Satoko math lover

severe saffron
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(a + b)² = a² + b²

elfin trail
sage cradle
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true when characteristic is 2

devout light
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Actually nvm it is possible with (a-b)(a+b)

sage ivy
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hu

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Additional Charges:
 A fixed meter rental fee of RM 5.00 is applied to all bills.
 A sewerage fee, calculated as 70% of the total water consumption charges, is added
to the bill.

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??

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is it really 37 because i got 42

dim echo
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Well... 35 * 1.2 is 42

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This looks like an output you'd get from a program, so it doesn't really fit in this thread and I'd ask the question maker if I were you

sage ivy
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but i just want to know if anyone has any idea

sage ivy
# dim echo Well... 35 * 1.2 is 42

when i used chatgpt
the calculation goes like for the first 20, 20x0.80, then 10x1.00, then 5x1.20 which in total is 35 but it results in 32 instead

dim echo
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Oh

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Is this the Malaysian way of calculating tariff

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If so then yea it's 20 * 0.8 + 10 * 1 + 5 * 1.2

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And it is 32

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Then you add 5 as a fixed fee

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So you get 37

sage ivy
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huh but wouldn't that mean they're charged twice then?

dim echo
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Here's an example, but replace kilowatt per hour with meter cubed

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So you pay more as you use more

sage ivy
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since total will add up rm 5for meter rental. then add rm 5 as well on the water charges?

sage ivy
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huh

dim echo
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Oh wait

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Yeah water charge should be 32

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lol

sage ivy
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yep was confused for a moment there

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thanks btw rian

dim echo
frosty nimbus
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Zundamon is going to challenge a math problem. Is it really unsolvable?

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elfin trail
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The real math is knowing the lores

frosty nimbus
old halo
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How to prove (cscx+cotx+1)/(cscx-cotx+1)=cscx+cotx ty

frosty nimbus
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I hate sin cos tan

dim echo
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If you're confused about the last two, refer to how I converted csc x + cot x into (cos^2 (x/2)) / (sin^2 (x/2))

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I do have the handwritten version but my handwriting is kinda ass

dim echo
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Actually I guess it looks fine, one second

old halo
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i did not think use this way to prove

dim echo
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What did you use?

old halo
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uh like i did not use x -> x/2 smth like that

dim echo
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Oh the double angle identities

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kek

old halo
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the rhs does not have x/2 smth like that so i did not think about use double angle identites

dim echo
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I thought of it after I realized I needed to get rid of 1

old halo
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ty anyways

dim echo
old halo
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confused..

elfin trail
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"Without solving the equation" 💀

wintry haven
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i hope this makes sense 🫡 @old halo

old halo
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dang

zinc raft
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Hm

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I wanna try this question too

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Nvm idk how to do it

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Idt I’ve ever seen a qn like this before bruh

devout light
wintry haven
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normally it looks like a mess SKULLY

old halo
old halo
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i am thinking some dumb question like 1÷1/0=?
will it become 1x0? (1x0/1)

zinc raft
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Unless 0 is actually a unit (like x)

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You cannot split a pie with no one, you need to give it to someone

old halo
zinc raft
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Yea

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But if 0 is a unit then there is an answer

dim echo
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There is an answer

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It's undefined

old halo
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math error

old halo
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i stuck again

lim x->0 (e^x+e^(4x)-2)/x
(no L’hopital’s rule)

wintry haven
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use the -2 to give a -1 to each of the e^xs and seperate and use the standard limit

old halo
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how did i didn’t think that

frosty nimbus
old halo
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i stuck again

lim x->0 (e^(2x)+e^(-2x)-2)/(x^2)
(no L’hopital’s rule)

frosty nimbus
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What r we even calculate that for

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Like

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How we use that in life

severe saffron
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it will be use to calculate how much braincells all of us lost in math class

proven gyro
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4

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Use Taylor expansion

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Idk

old halo
proven gyro
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e^(2x)+e^(-2x)=2+4x^2+....
e^(2x)+e^(-2x)-2=4x^2
(e^(2x)+e^(-2x)-2)/X^2=4

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@old halo please correct me if I'm wrong

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I'm too lazy to do the whole thing

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The part before that is just expanding e into Taylor series and combining both

proven gyro
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Alright

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Hope that helps you

old halo
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🫶

wintry haven
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the answer is correct so iguess it works

proven gyro
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Wdym

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No l'hospital rule

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🏥

wintry haven
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yeah you can do it without that or taylor series

proven gyro
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How do you do it without lol

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The only thing that came up to my mind whenever I see e is just taylor

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Or hopitals idk

wintry haven
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you can rewrite (e^2x + e^-2x - 2) as (e^2x - 1)^2/e^2x

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then use the standard limit

proven gyro
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Igq

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I guess

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Maybe I am too complicated

wintry haven
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yeah thats why i was surprised it worked XD

proven gyro
old halo
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@hollow schooner

zinc raft
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I never learnt this

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And you are 1/2 year younger than me💀

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Going from logarithm to whatever this is is crazy

wintry haven
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all the non asians asking why he is learning this :cluelesschatting:

hollow schooner
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😭

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haven't reached that part yet

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but that's probably the most plausible way to solve the equation if l'hopital's rule doesn't work

hollow schooner
zinc raft
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Im from sg

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The country with an education model everyone wants to follow

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So um

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💀

old halo
zinc raft
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Very likely sh3rk is in some special math program because idk why hes learning advanced topics rn like limit

wintry haven
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well i dont know about you but that stuff is in the normal math curriculum for us

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and in a couple more asian countries i know people from

wintry haven
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its ass

zinc raft
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Meh

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I think its fine

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Anyways id rather study here then in other countries that put so much pressure to study

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A good academic background can only get you so far

proven gyro
proven gyro
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Not even log

zinc raft
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To be fair i dont even remember how to do log anymore

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💀

proven gyro
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Idk

zinc raft
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I mean

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If what you are doing now doesnt need you to learn log

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Why bother

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Its good to learn but learn the things that help you first

proven gyro
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Why bother?

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Because I need it for college entrance exam?

zinc raft
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What

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Then ur school is just weird for not teaching compulsory topics

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If you have a math textbook then learn from it

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At least for me thats how i studied for math outside of school

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Usually the questions there are crazy hard, more than enough to answer exam questions

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Logarithm is my worst topic, so no matter how many questions i did i was still too dumb to do some of the medium difficulty question

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But at least i can do every other topic perfectly and only lose marks on topics im not good at

proven gyro
zinc raft
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If logarithms are part of entrance exams then it should be in your curriculum

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But ur school didnt teach it when it should be part of the curriculum

dim echo
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It's not that simple

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To begin with, you should know how disintegrated the education system is in non-first world countries

zinc raft
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Hm

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Thats kind of sad then

zinc raft
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Even an old one works fine, i used an old book too

old halo
zinc raft
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Yea thats the basic of the basic

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Only things i can remember

old halo
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real

proven gyro
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Even the teachers avoid using it

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Basically it's a bunch of garbage

zinc raft
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Well thats great

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For me the old textbook is outdated in a bad way

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But i use it for the practice questions

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Just do the questions with the new syllabus in mind

proven gyro
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I mean I do have a textbook that I learn math from

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But it's the college entrance test book

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😂

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So it's not in depth

zinc raft
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Hm i dont understand

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How many questions do you have for each topic

proven gyro
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The test? Only God knows

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Each chapter has 30+ practice question

proven gyro
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Btw that's only math

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Man I love my live

zinc raft
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10 pages each chapter is kind of low

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But 30 questions is probably enough ig

proven gyro
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It's enough alright

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But my brain ain't handling 20+ chapters man

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Trigono, integral, and derivatives goes brrrr

old halo
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d/dx

spare ferry
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how do u go abt getting a general soln for the differential equation
d²x/dy² = tan(x)sec²(x)

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yes ik this involves trig fuckery

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i tried u-sub where my u was sec x but idk how to proceed after the first integration

dim echo
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Can't you use the fact that d(tan x)/dx = sec²x?

spare ferry
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probs is tanx times sec²x

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not + or -

spare ferry
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i tried using pythagorean identities but ehhh

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idt that was right

spare ferry
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havent actually thought of that i was so focused on getting rid of tanx instead lmao

dim echo
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bruh

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Yeah it'll be simpler

spare ferry
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ok yea i got

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tanx/2 - x/2 + c1x + c2

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lmao

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wait no

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there

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thank

dim echo
spare ferry
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actually one more

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how abt a particular soln for

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dy/dx = cos3x/sin2y

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y = pi/3 when x = pi/2

wintry haven
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you can sacrifice rigor and multiply by dx :uncanny: and sin 2y on both sides

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easy integration then

wintry haven
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because your answer seems to say its the second but the question says the first

spare ferry
spare ferry
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lmaoooo

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just cant figure out if im supposed to be doing u-sub or playing around with identities

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wait

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i double checked

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here

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it actually is dy/dx

wintry haven
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yeah? i mean theres no problem with this question

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i was talking about the previous one

spare ferry
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ohhh

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yea ur right its d2y/dx2

wintry haven
spare ferry
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the problem is actually diff vars but i changed it for convenience and forgor to order them right

spare ferry
wintry haven
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?

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whats the answer

spare ferry
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answer is

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cos2y = (-2/3)(sin3x) - 7/6

wintry haven
spare ferry
wintry haven
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there shouldn't be a square attached to cos 2y lol

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its just -1/2 cos2y

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same on the other side for x

spare ferry
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wait actually

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jejckemmfmemfmdmg

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me when i forget the u i set

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i swear its these little things that always fuck up my chances to get a final exam exemption

wintry haven
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so real

spare ferry
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ok yeah i got that answer thank

wintry haven
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👌

old halo
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Do.. do i need to face those stuff too..?

spare ferry
spare ferry
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integral calc quiz in 3 hours

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💀

spare ferry
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its time.

proven gyro
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Gl

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Too late but whatever

spare ferry
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LOL

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or at least a replica of it

spare ferry
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actually can i ask finite automata stuff here

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im planning to start reviewing later and uh

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its a Hard Course

proven gyro
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Lmao

spare ferry
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yea its Something

proven gyro
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Cool board

old halo
sick helm
spare ferry
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no thats automata theory

old halo
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random math question
prove lim x->0+ x^x=1 (without saying 0^0=1)

spare ferry
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1^1 = 1

wintry haven
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there is nothing to prove about it, the function approaches 1 as x approaches 0+, so the limit is 1 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

spare ferry
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yeah

dim echo
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You can do that to your calculus lecturer and they'll be pissed

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But if you want to prove that, use logarithms and continuous function property

spare ferry
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oh yea

frosty nimbus
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R we doing some ritual here?

devout light
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Meth ritual

dim echo
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Invert this function

severe saffron
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ez enough

dim echo
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For real, I need this for diffcalc

copper snow
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my favourite

vestal atlas
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Chat how do I do a full mathematical data analysis in just 3 minutes

proven gyro
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Chatgpt

raven minnow
vestal atlas
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Same

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Maths is just fun and painful at same time 💀

raven minnow
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when i solve, it could take me minutes to half an hour when done properly

vestal atlas
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Bet no one would understand that lmao

vestal atlas
raven minnow
vestal atlas
raven minnow
vestal atlas
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I like Computers

raven minnow
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HAHAHAHAH

vestal atlas
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Like PC repair stuff 💀

vestal atlas
raven minnow
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shameless plugin cuz i study that joystic

vestal atlas
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What does electronics engineering does?

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Like u make robot and stuff? Idk

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I've literally got 1 year left to get to college

raven minnow
vestal atlas
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Sorry am dumb

raven minnow
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we are responsible for telecommunications such as your wifis and data for example

vestal atlas
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I see

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Mhnhm

raven minnow
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and this engineering program are a bit misinterpreted as electrical which is totally different

vestal atlas
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Fr

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I just want something like doing phone surgeries repairing pc stuff idk 💀

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Idk

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My physique is only good for indoors like office stuff is also possible 💀

raven minnow
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and mostly, all the electronics that we see today, such as graphic cards, monitors, cellphones, we study the foundation on how do they be manufactured

vestal atlas
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Programming can be a option but yea I don't wanna

raven minnow
vestal atlas
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Idk if that's fine or not

raven minnow
vestal atlas
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100% bad job site

vestal atlas
raven minnow
vestal atlas
frosty nimbus
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Hello math people

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Mathdle exist and I never know

sick helm
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okay i like it

frosty nimbus
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Do the hard

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Bro what 😭

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Not + or *

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How tf I gonna - or / to have 3 digit

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And what even is that additional rule I don't get it

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Like 3 is gray then it just turn red what

devout light
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Same

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I also love this I meant

frosty nimbus
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Nah I can put operator on both side

frosty nimbus
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So yeah if u put 1 2 7 8 the position 1 2 7 8 will not be check

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That y

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Grrrr

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Not gonna do the hard

frosty nimbus
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I hate how √(2²) not equal to 2 but equal to ±2

sick helm
frosty nimbus
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It asian here
20 question 2 point total
1 wrong -1
2 wrong -2

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18 correct? Too bad get 0

sick helm
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that's harsh as hell

frosty nimbus
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😔

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Welcome to asian

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Also ts happen every week

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Doing exam midteam last week and bro ain't even checking and give us paper back to fix all mistake this week
Even let us pair with other
Paper free
Calculator free
6 hours in total

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A=|ij| A=3×4 and aij=2i+3j like bro ts took me week to understand

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And just simply ask me does the time enough 😭

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Bro there even one question after calculate
A-¹=30
And the c1 i got 28-8=20 which is good since 20/30 is fine
Then c2 got the -8-48=-56 and ofc -56/30 is not happy but ok fine then I go next
c3 -6-46=52 like bro -52/30 ofc we not happy y can't we just -48+8 or -46+6 like the question just rage bait me
||the answer is correct tho||

proven gyro
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How the hell could you get -2 from √(2²)

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Unless ± means approximation

dim echo
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It is definitely 2 lol

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You're not doing algebra

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It's a literal number

proven gyro
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True lmao

dim echo
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Even if you replace 2 with x, x would still be 2 because negative square root is undefined

frosty nimbus
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cuz √(2²) sound like √4 to me

dim echo
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It is

frosty nimbus
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Wdym negative Square root

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It just 2²=4 and -2²=4

dim echo