#Why don't the SS-Skins not fit the symbol

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quaint hawk
lusty silo
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Because the devs are too scared.

fallow knoll
stable fog
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thats cool and all but HLL is not a milsim

whole merlin
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Putting the runes would bring unnecessary controversy to the game, besides that, the black insignia patches are enough to distinguish the uniform.

real lichen
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They already censored swastikas. They are never going to add in uncensored runes or swastikas

lusty silo
stable fog
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I dont spam it lmao

coarse kelp
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👍 Absolutely.

stable wraith
lone fable
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Wrong on so many levels:
Hell let loose is not a milsim, it’s the middle ground between a milsim and a casual shooter.
The problem with SS symbols is, they are banned in different countries, for example Germany, due to obvious reasons. So if they implement the symbols, the game will be banned in Germany. Germany is an important market, so they cannot lose it. I would also understand if they just do not want to add these symbols.
And no, the false front DLC is not an SS uniform. The Wehrmacht had plenty of camouflage too. In this DLC, they used the Zeltbahn as a poncho against rain, and because it is a better camouflage than regular feldgrau. They also used Sumpftarn smocks or Splittertarn jackets. Camouflaged German soldiers are not always SS

topaz kite
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Hell let lose isn’t a Historical accurate game HLL is somewhere between milsim style games and battlefield were it’s less historical and more like WW2 movies that generalize things

stable wraith
robust ember
grim coral
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I know in a lot of countries Nazi imagery is banned completely and if they were to add these it would lead to the game not being allowed onto their markets losing players and money. And most people probably in the community don't care about it that much so its not worth the risk.

dire hedge
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Yes but they find it ok if they are used for "Art" like in uah I need to vomit saying this but like in Vall of Duty Vanguard even the german version had swastikas

stable fog
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Alright my actual imput onto this topic
I really doubt the devs would even go anywhere near adding further Nazi imagery into the game. I personally dont see the need for such censorship because we all know the context behind the faction and cosmetics. But its there purely as a failsafe for anyone who wants to kick up a fuss. And personally I dont really care that much that nazi symbols arent being represented.
I always found the game did a creative way of censoring swastikas by presenting them but as worn out and generally low detail if they're small enough. Implying its there but never actually showing it. Doing this with other imagery would be fine imo
Its really not a big deal if they dont show them

molten grove
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back in the days when games just put nazi flags there and dont give a damn, people are getting oversensitive

safe hound
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In some country’s these symbols are forbidden. That’s the reason why you can’t have it. Easy

lone fable
stable fog
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Cod mentioned

dire hedge
worthy saffron
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This is not a milsim end of discussion lmao

lone fable
# dire hedge Dude it's was an example that other games did it too and were allowed to sell in...

There is no way there were swastikas in that game, and it was still legal. And even if they were there, that's the decision of the devs. If Activison decides so, it does't mean T17 has to do the same. There are enough opportunities to censor them, and no one is complainig about a "lack of historical accuracy": I would also not like to have a symbol in my game (at least uncensored, so it can be used by Na*is) which represents a system which is responsible for millions of deaths. It's basic ethics. There will be no SS Runes or swastikas in this game. Btw: False Front is a regular Wehrmacht uniform!

stable fog
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Even 2008s COD World at War didnt feature prominent SS runes or swastikas in its multiplayer. Some of the German faction models for MP were SS soldiers with PeaDot cammo but no runes.
Its just, not a big deal

dire hedge
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I have the game myself played it and never touched it again, plus I'm German and bought it from a German super market I know it's in there.
They even say the n-word there casually

lone fable
past saddle
dire hedge
lusty silo
lone fable
dire hedge
slender vector
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Dieser Channel gehört nun der Bundesrepublik Deutschland.

Sry, es musste sein.

lone fable
# dire hedge Ja das macht schon Sinn

Das einzige, was rechtlich gehen würde, wäre, die Runen zu zensieren, z.B. als "//", hat man bei den Hakenkreuzen ja auch geschafft. @slender vector Exakt, sprich Deutsch du...GermanFlag

past wasp
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Die betreffenden Gesetze wurden bei euch zwar gelockert, aber nicht vollkommen aufgehoben, oder?Die Publisher müssen bei jedem Release eine Prüfung beantragen - und ich kann mir da schon denken, dass sich gerade ein Nischen-Game wie HLL mit einem kleinen Team wie BM damals potenziellen Ärger ersparen wollte.

lone fable
past wasp
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Genau. Und selbst wenn sie's machen würde - bis auf die paar großen Adler auf den Bunkern würde niemandem auffallen. Wenn du so viel Zeit im Spiel hast, einem Mitspieler auf den Kragenspiegel zu schauen...

prime elm
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Would be cool to see ss and nazi things in it. But I don't care if they don't add it would rather they just stick to the original roadmap and add new faction

smoky path
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Just saying, there is a way to add the SS runes with censorship. It's extremely simple, just do two angled lines like this. At least then it's not completely blank. Also, I don't understand T17's sudden hesitation to do any German Eagles recently. There's none on any of the SS camos (which mind you did have variations with the eagle on the arm) and not even on the Heer Afrika Korps uniform.

History shouldn't be censored, that's how I see it. But sadly I don't make the decisions and we live in a world that's too sensitive to portray history to the fullest.

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lone fable
robust ember
jagged plover
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HLL is a milsim. ✌️

worthy saffron
jagged plover
worthy saffron
# jagged plover #Truth

Makes complete sense mate you can repair an entire tank, tracks, turret body with a blow torch in a minute, you can respawn in 20 seconds, there's no zeroing on sights, guns have incorrect ballistics etc, if you want to play a milsim go play arma 👍

topaz kite
midnight ferry
lone fable
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Because it’s too controversial and might get them in some trouble. End of discussion

sudden fulcrum
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They don’t want to add SS runes and swastikas because the game could get banned in Germany and other countries that have laws against nazi symbols simple as that. I did like black matters way of adding the eagle decal where it just looks like the paint was chipped where the swastika was supposed to be

smoky path
sudden fulcrum
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So I looked it up and apparently Symbols associated with the party can be approved for use in video games If it’s seen as historically accurate by the usk and does not portray the Germans in too good a manner.

So if people really want to see these symbols in game they should ask team 17 to contact the Unterhaltungssoftware Selbstkontrolle and go from there.

stable fog
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They wont bother
its a multiplayer game, it has always been pretty uncommon for games to have the symbols on or associated with playable characters or factions. The games way of obscuring the symbols but still implying they were/are there is good enough

narrow fern
# sudden fulcrum So I looked it up and apparently Symbols associated with the party can be approv...

Some people just want to walk around with Nazi runes and symbolism so bad, its absolutely cringe.
This is the second time this has come up (at least as far as I've seen).

Of all the points of historical inaccuracy you could pick out in this game, this rune/symbolism issue is the one that a few people pick out and support.

That being said, most people wouldn't engage with it in an adult way, be honest.

Show it where it makes sense, not in a funny boom-boom shoot-shoot game.

lone fable
narrow fern
smoky path
# narrow fern Some people just want to walk around with Nazi runes and symbolism so bad, its a...

This isn't the only thing people pick on regarding inaccuracies.. There's a lot more posts about general uniforms, gameplay and everything else vs two posts about uncensoring symbols that you seem to be focusing on.

You cannot dog on people that simply want an authentic historical experience. I for one would like uncensored gameplay, but you don't see me shidding on the game only because of that.

And before you even add "it'll make more people act like Nazis" like other people. Like, dude. It makes little to no difference. People do it even now and we have everything censored. There's always going to be bad apples in the community, that's just how it is with a game set in World War 2.

History should always be told the proper way, instead of it being blurred just because of a few sensitive apples. You don't see people censoring the WW1 German symbols do you? Or hell, even the god damn Soviet Union's symbols which by my account was 100x worse than the Nazis, and I'd say people acting like Soviets is as equally as cringe as someone acting like a Nazi, lmao.

torn sundial
narrow fern
# smoky path This isn't the only thing people pick on regarding inaccuracies.. There's a lot ...

Basically, I have nothing against such things being shown, in fact, I even agree with you 100% on your points.
The difference between you and some others is that you go into more detail about your point.
I'm just annoyed by this blunt demand for runes and symbolism, especially when there's not much of a reason given for it. It's different with you.
But what else am I supposed to think when some cringelords just scream for the symbols?
All while I chew on my keyboard because my gunner shells get stuck on a random bush. Stuff like that is important in this game for me, but some people seem to think missing runes is the deal.