#Analysis of Browning hip fire behavior

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ionic hamlet
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Something that has bugging me a lot every time I play MG as murican: Browning Mg in hip fire mode has 3 recoil (bullet hit areas relative to the center of the screen) - slightly below the center, 2-3x lower than the previous one and just as previous but with additional alteration to the right.

Now the recoil patterns seems to be selected (assigned) when you spawn (tested per bullet and per mag, pattern changes only after redeploy), which already sucks.

What does make everything a lot worse is the fact that MG42 recoil patterns are either VERY close to the center of the screen or DIRECTLY the center, which obviously make you land incredibly accurate hip fire shots, compared to the Browning MG.

Myself, I have no problem with how "easy to use" MG42 is, but so should be the Browning machine gun.

For asymmetric balance lovers: honest way to make recoil would be to make it depend on random elemeny, i.e adding/multiplying on RANDOM "hand position" coefficient which will make hip firing less predictable for ALL MGs, but having one MG hit the counter of the screen precisely almost always, and the other have the dumbest recoil patterns isn't called balance at all.

P.S. Especially interested in opinions of high lvl MG main folks who actually understand how to use MGs properly.

Here's the clip of 2 recoil patterns (first was shot -> redeployed -> shot the second recoil pattern) (as reference targets for the center of the screen I used: center of the big white circle and intersections of the mid gap line between wooden planks with 2nd circle on each side):

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/5XQP4XRMAX

Xbox

A capture by PichyDino

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I'll tag @hexed thorn to get opinion on that - you're the only real MG main I've seen around in this discord

hexed thorn
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If I am being honest, I don't think about the hipfire too much as it's mostly used in a reactionary manner - there aren't huge numbers of instances where I am premediating the hipfire to the point I would consider the spray pattern. It is interesting that you have done the research on how it apparently works and I would imagine that it is a legacy of the old MG42 laser beam hipfire that would be able to always go dead centre of your screen.

pure nimbus
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Mg role have pistol for reason😁

cold steppe
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as a level 5 mg not main who only uses the ar loadout, i have no idea what any of this mean

ionic hamlet
# pure nimbus Mg role have pistol for reason😁

The thing is, when you have to engage in close combat, MG42 is quite reliable for hip file if pre-ads, but this damn Browning is so unpredictable and 1911 is probably the worst pistol after revolvers