Asterisk for Bob the Builder Farm players

[floral vault]

So those who engaged in steroid use during the home run race era, an asterisk is put to their name in states. I think it would be good for these players on these farm servers to have a asterisk on their name so that can visually communicate to use in the game where they got their xp from. It helps us figure out they well dont know how to play the game yet and helps us be aware. These farm players is like running into someone who lies on their resume about work experience.

[blissful spoke]

Or maybe modify the progression system so all the loadouts are available at level 1 and people don't need to grind.

[fiery thorn]

or just go and play the game properly

[floral vault]

@blissful spoke Soldiers in training dont get free passes. They work for their spot. I hope we get a database of Bob the builder players also published.

[runic urchin]

I don't Bob my stuff, but I think this is more of a discrimination tactic; what did the bobs do to you?

[rough wraith]

I'd wear it proudly.
F**k this games progression system
(On a side note, incompetent high ranks were a thing long before bobs. Your star is meaningless)

@maiden bough its amazing how much ego people build from farming a videogame

[maiden bough]

Wait, you compare real soldiers to a game??

[blissful spoke]

This is a Video game.

[tired ginkgo]

I don't think this is really that much of an issue. Most of the people who use Bob just do it for the loadouts and then they're on their merry way.

[ember lark]

The progression system is discriminatory and elitist; it encourages you have high level players instead of new ones due the value in versatility of loadout selection. This by itself validates the bob servers.

There is a huge level of diminishing returns of game knowledge you can accumulate from this game. its not like the knowledge you get at 1000 hours is going to be any different at 100 hours and the fact that you make this distinction shows how little you understand the game and overvalue the leveling system

[coral pendant]

You're right but then again does anyone kick their squad mates because they don't have the proper loadout for a situation? I highly doubt that's a widely spread issue.

Also OP suggestion is just... bizarre.

[ember lark]

Oh, no. new players aren’t kicked. But its tacitly encouraged to only have high players

[tender roost]

Sounds like a excuse gajin would tell war thunder players. You can’t make people spend months to grind for a camo when the games already last arguably a hour and half, and even with a good game u rarely get any progression. U barely move a centimeter.

[rapid dock]

I wouldnt go that far, as its always nice to have something to grind for in a game, adds some depth.

Although a all around easier grind would be substantially needed

[snow jetty]

I concur with Ice Cream, screw all that "hey lets flag BtB players"

[blissful spoke]

Grind for uniforms. Grinding for 'content' is cheese.

[rough wraith]

Even grinding for uniforms is kinda cringe. I dont care about status I just want to wear the right uniform for the map

[silk escarp]

"we don't want a battle pass!" also "keep the progression as is, people need to earn the right to use loadouts"

[blissful spoke]

Zzzz

[rapid dock]

Well if all loadouts are available right off the bat, whose to say that some more rarer loadouts like the flamethrowers will become more abundant and overused? Although the flamethrowers suck, i feel something like that should be grinded for and therefore, a bit more rare

And as previously stated in my original message, i said that they should reduce the amount of time it would take to grind

[blissful spoke]

The only loadout that is better is German lvl 9 assault..

[crude yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/why-tho-whyy-jontron-but-gif-19045336

[paper valley]

complaining about people speed grinding is incredibly stupid and counter productive. what is it taking away from YOU? I can't think of a single issue with it when the grind is unneeded in the first place, I don't know who needs to hear this but if you require an incentive such as progression to play the game and not play it simply to find it fun then something is wrong. I'll often play MG, and Engineer simply because I find them fun despite the fact that I have everything for them unlocked.

[mortal gate]

it's always a lot of fun how people who cheat try to justify their cheating by saying it's everyone else's fault, that they were forced to cheat, etc. HOW DISGUSTING!

@Jelly&IceCream it makes a huge difference whether you
100 game hours or 1000 that is again such a ridiculously childish excuse no more.

you should complain about how useless some loadouts are and how arbitrary the composition of some loadouts is
instead of cheating to get what you don't deserve !

[burnt kestrel]

Lol like a Jewish star grow up champ

[maiden oracle]

I have been forced to kick my AT for not having guncrew when requested cause he didn't have it unlocked and refused to swap roles

I've had to kick and do it MYSELF as a SL as well

It's a very large problem if I find the enemy super base on Offense and call for a satchel and no one has it unlocked. I have those that WANT to, but can't, forcing me to swap off SL to satchel

Loadouts need rehauled and made open. There should be no superior upgrade version(crewman->crewman lvl3), and every loadout should have niche to fill. I'd remove the lvl 6 german rifleman for example, keeping the semi auto reserved for different roles

[ember lark]

Not that it matters, but I never did bobs my stuff and I have all loadouts unlocked. Locked loadouts hinder new players and teams and the grind is dumb. Simple as

Its also a false sense of superiority to think that players with 1000 hours are more valuable than those with 100 or less. The game is far too simple to make any kind of distinction like that

[blissful spoke]

Cheating is using an aimbot not building a lot of things on a building server.

[mortal gate]

yes, yes, just keep talking yourself into it, maybe you'll really believe it at some point.

cheating is more than just aimboting !

maybe you should take a look at the terms and conditions of your online game you seem to have some gaps in your education

[silk escarp]

[rough wraith]

Xp farm go brrrrrrrrrr

[crude yacht]

You’re not that bright are you?

[ember lark]

Ironic

[near scaffold]

If the game allows you to 'cheat' its not cheating lmfao.

[runic urchin]

Cheating in games is characterized as “an unfair advantage over other players.” If the game itself allows for BtB, then how is it cheating?

[verbal crypt]

My first level 10 was rifleman. I really couldn’t care less about levelling up. I just wanted not to die every two seconds and I definitely learnt how not to using the Kar98.

[sinful perch]

Published database of BtB players…wow that’s actually insane. Probably want the database to include home address, employer information and current credit report as well

[paper valley]

People really are salty that some players get to enjoy all of the classes very easily lol

[rough wraith]

Please give sniper a hammer so I can farm it on bobs

[blissful spoke]

Just farm it by shooting the builders.

[runic urchin]

Nodes are always an option.

[bold flax]

I don't understand how this method of xp earning effects your gameplay negatively

[heady linden]

Everyone is capable of building for the extra xp. If a different person builds nodes in each sector that basically covers every memebr in the squad getting bonus xp, and helps command keep the push going. I believe this is how it was intended, to show the benefit of teamwork, unfortunately hll has been running very short of teamwork recently

[tired ginkgo]

If the Bob server was really that much of an issue than the devs would shut it down. Even without the Bob server, there are still ways to xp boost in any game. Just build nodes and then switch to which ever class you want leveled up quicker. This is slower than Bob but still faster than the ordinary grind. There will always be people xp boosting with or without Bob, so just stop complaining.

[floral vault]

No were talking about asterisk on players name. Lets talk about fair play in the community. Think of the steroid eras with guys who got ahead by leveling up. Thats whats going on in Bob the Builder servers and lead squads into massacres mic less. They are steroiding up. There needs to be open investigations, discovery, transparency and people sworn un under oath for the Team 17 livestream hearings.

[red shuttle]

There's zero difference between a player that has farmed their levels and a player that has gained them simply by playing. A player's level is NOT indicative of their experience or skill, it doesn't matter how and where they got their levels.

A better suggestion is to overhaul the entire progression system so players don't feel the need to exploit it to level up, or gain access to loadouts they need for more "balanced" play.

Both the loadout and progression system need to be changed

[floral vault]

They wont change it the game is already developed. Perhaps some of these players looking to farm will have to pay a fee to team 17 to help finance future updates.

[maiden oracle]

The near entirely of hll is "beta quality" feature development

Good but unrefined concepts essentially

This includes loadouts, which shouldn't be locked under xp in a team oriented game

Unbinding them from xp also allows better loadout balancing. We can finally cleanse the pure improvement ones, fix inaccurate weapon %'s(too many non bolt actions)

This also removes default loadout bug due to how the bug interacts

And then @floral vault, you can smile at the death of btb servers

[runic urchin]

Here's your database for BtB players. https://www.battlemetrics.com/servers/hll/14352999?l%3Atime=AT Yes I'm on this list. I grinded to level 200 and got all loadouts unlocked w/o the need to BtB, then I started doing achievements; a stream of nonstop supplies really helps with achievement hunting ngl. Not all people use it to cheese leveling up, it's just a handy tool to use.

[floral vault]

@maiden oracle Im all for your idea. @runic urchin time to hunt them down

[runic urchin]

This seems like a death threat… you gonna allow this?

@fading temple “Time to hunt them down” is allowed?

This is clear discrimination now.

[bold flax]

I cannot comprehend why this is a problem "oh no someone's using legal game mechanics to level up" just stfu and play the game if you want to level up legitimately off kills only then go for it. I did it for the flammethrower and fg 42

[maiden oracle]

what? how in the duck is that a "death threat"?????

@fading temple negative, nothing deleted btw

[fading temple]

Unless a post has been edited or removed the above seems fine even if potentially unsavory.