Just make the speed 10%

[lyric bluff]

best approach

[strange pebble]

Can you honestly say you can tell the difference between 5%, 7.5%, 10%, or 15%?

[outer siren]

^

[stable elk]

No you can’t, practice shooting you will get used to it

[modern pulsar]

L

[wintry spire]

in arma squad post scriptum (which are actual milsims) you are running faster in combat than hll --> you don´t often run more than 150 meters if you do you do something wrong so if you want hll to be more realistic you need to make it even faster --> end of discussion

[nocturne oasis]

Yes

Vehemently yes

@stable elk
@outer siren

[stable elk]

Keep practicing, its good for gameplay

[crimson ruin]

👆 good advice

[oak dirge]

How about people try it for an extended period of time, get better, improve, and less lukewarm compromises made by devs. The 15% increase is exactly what this game needed, it's back to a similar speed before the previous devs brought it all the way down several updates ago.

BMs decision to slow the sprint speed to a crawl legitimately made people into such poor aimers, it's insane. In HLL, you are given an armament of weapons that always shoot straight, deal one-shot damage up to ridiculous ranges, and with plenty of ammo, and there's still people struggling to land shots on targets now that they aren't slow as molasses anymore.

[empty zenith]

I appreciate the attempt buddy :). Dialog started heated but now its just disrespectful trolling. 100% agree with your thought, not sure community is willing to see beyond personal preference.

Devs should have communicated this better to atleast try to keep the unproductive convos down.

@nocturne oasis is what it is. The devs obviously are aware, im gonna leave it up to them to sort through fact/fiction and see what that outcome is. Not gonna play hll in the meantime, if t17 decides they want to keep the full increase ill wish them well and start looking around at some other options on console. Whatever it is, Milsim or hardcore shooter or arcadey blah blah, all i know is hll post u7 felt good to me, thats the vibe im after.

@outer siren that is still mind boggling to me. Fps is basically gunplay and movement. Honing skills through repitition and muscle memory. Shouldnt there be enough collective experience @ t17 for someone to raise their hand and say this might be something important/polarizing?

[narrow lake]

L

[nocturne oasis]

@empty zenith Agreed, people like the above guy i have quoted are what 90% of the conversation has deluded to from the Pro-15% people =/

[lone kernel]

Characters don’t run up hills anymore they glide. Looks dumb

[outer siren]

I'd wager he devs probably thought the change would have been seen as rather inconsequential and not very contraversial. Wombat Medic even mentioned in the telegram the heated dialogue. So, if it is enough to warrant a telegram prompt it must not have been seen as a big deal prior to launch.

@empty zenith IIRC this is T17's first FPS game

[empty zenith]

Would explain alot

[snow jewel]

At least BM devs clarified why they changed the movement speed in U8 (albeit after the fact); that it was to encourage intentional movement and discourage zig zag mosquito movement.

However, since then it’s been pretty clear that the locomotion required improvements, and everyone has their own opinions on what that should look like; but I’m pretty tired of seeing all the subjective responses, and ad-hominem insults others are being subjected to; rather than calm and rational arguments.

TL;DR I also believe there’s a more refined solution (that’s not simply adjusting max speed) that will satisfy a greater number of people, rather than being so polarising.

PS. @gritty spoke I’d agree with you on the locomotion v lethality balance; if only hit-reg wasn’t so inconsistent the last few updates (probably since U6 one might argue)

[crimson ruin]

BM wanted us to use their shiny new trucks at the time. Which serve almost no purpose after the start of the game (still don't), with the map size we have and the intense fighting in this game. Writing such nonsense as 'intentional movement' , was typical BM and or Max, hiding their actual intentions under some wall of text.
The only thing that did make sense is the zig zag part, but just slowing everything to a crawl, instead of finding a solution and to work on inertia or whatever, was also typical. Besides that I barely remember people complaining about that at the time.
Running to the point at the start wasn't even disliked either. I remember vividly nobody really liking the Trucks or thinking they were necessary.