new-recruit-barracks

[noble oasis]

MY whole life i have always had to deal with 230+ ping

[fathom peak]

bro you cant play on 230+

i play on 0-30

[noble oasis]

i have had to

playing WOT

only recently had Aussies been getting good servers

i get 350 ping on WOT on the xbox

[fathom peak]

damn

[noble oasis]

and i still play that with no complaints

[fathom peak]

its unplayable for me if i get 150+

i can handle 100 but 150 nah

[dawn widget]

damn, this is that kind of sad news story to show to children to make them stop whingeing and eat their vegetables

[noble oasis]

YER

[dawn widget]

how's ARMA going? what you doin

[noble oasis]

am i being spied on?

[dawn widget]

sorry

[noble oasis]

no its fine

[dawn widget]

ok then what you doin

[noble oasis]

im thinking about starting a new arma group seeing as most are toxic or just inapt

[dawn widget]

nice thanks

[noble oasis]

so im jsut scripting a few things

[dawn widget]

Is this game dead?

[sweet cliff]

https://steamcharts.com/app/686810 no, but some regions don't have the same activity as others.

On PC at least.

[dawn widget]

Oh yea I’m on console

[dawn widget]

are the servers down or something

literally almost every serer has 0/100 ppl

[still vault]

Try searching without Show Empty highlighted.

[dawn widget]

Hello. Console player here.

[still vault]

Greetings. Select roles accordingly in the #readme-rules channel.

[velvet sandal]

gm guys new boots on the ground

[upper crescent]

As a "newbie" both in game and here in 20th Pz I have to report to other "boots" that the need for leadership in battle is very high. Getting that chance to operate a position that you never have training for, is a unique opportunity, but one also with huge potential. All the YouTube watching will not give you that "seeing the elephant" in fighting brings to the tasks at hand. Today is my 7th day in game and have had squads from day one. Baby steps at first but each chance grows in knowledge and in respect for those who have the patience to help during a game. I had two such game last nit/early this morning. Those people are indeed, and with out over stating, real legions. Go forth and learn and die! It's part of the experience!

[humble jacinth]

Bruh dude wrote an essay

I mean yeah u learn when u get thrown into the fray

Thats how i learned it like a month or two ago

[dawn widget]

e

Any tips on how to get better

I suck ass at this game

But I still have some fun, then again it gets annoying killing 2 ppl per match and having like 30 deaths

[unkempt storm]

He’s a gentleman and a scholar

[vale juniper]

Tonk

[wanton grail]

hello guys i just bought this game can somebody pls help me

[sweet cliff]

Lots of resources are pinned in here.

[wanton grail]

thx

[humble jacinth]

Keep playing and you will learn from mistakes you make

If you are curious how a certain class or thing works ask your squad mates or search it up

👍

[glad pasture]

Watch this first: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HQ6JXgIROw

[wanton grail]

thank you for the help

[glad pasture]

You will find more here: #hll-guides

[wanton grail]

thanks to you all for helping me

[unkempt storm]

Always happy to help a toilet raccoon

[amber pollen]

how long does arty shell last after impact

smoke shell*

[still vault]

Maybe one minute?

[dapper quail]

Fun night with the boys in the armor last night

[mellow tide]

looks like 6 tanks were lost to me 😂

[unkempt storm]

this sounds so hot

[dapper quail]

Haha

[dapper quail]

No. Few redeploys. Few team kills haha. Three lost tanks

[dawn widget]

anyone looking to play?

[grim snow]

Yo u got a player in me

[still vault]

Necroposter here. Have you already resorted to updating MSI MysticLight to its absolutely latest version?

[tight halo]

If your on console can you invite friends on PC and play?

[sweet cliff]

Nope, there's no console to PC cross play, but there's Playstation crossplay with Xbox I believe.

[tight halo]

Well I hope they add that soon

[sweet cliff]

It's not on the roadmap and it's probably not very likely, all your progress on PC is tracked through Steam, the steam server management stuff revolves around your steam account, I don't know how it works on console but I imagine Playstation and Xbox each have their own disparate systems

Also console and PC don't have the same content at the moment.

and I'd wager the majority, if not the vast majority of PC players don't want to play with console players

[glad pasture]

Does Hell Let Loose have cross-play?

Hell Let Loose will have cross-play between PS5 and Xbox Series X|S consoles. However, those on PC won’t be able to play with their friends if they are on consoles.

[still moon]

Aspiring Anti-Tank Pros - check this out! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0wTm1nFTm8

[hoary elbow]

yeah, I fixed it by doing so

[still vault]

Good. Just making sure of it.

[signal tulip]

assuming you pick up supplies by just walking over them?

[unkempt storm]

Supplies are usable in a radius (forget the exact distance, but relatively small) from where they’re dropped. Once in the radius you can do whatever you’d like with them

[vale juniper]

If you could there would be no need to call supplies behind enemy lines

[gloomy bolt]

Playing infantry

[heady solar]

Any help with staying alive? Seems like a very dumb question but everytime i spawn on a garrison/outpost I die to some random explosion and have no idea how to avoid or combat it.

[uncut jasper]

Spawn on another point, arty is camping the garry

The rate of fire for arty is so fast that combined with the kill radius of the shells, there's no real way you can avoid death unless you can immediately get in a building or behind cover

Or a tank is doing the same thing, same solution

[quiet escarp]

just spawn on another point

that means that garrison is being camped

a popular strat for armour players is essentially to hop in a fast tank at the start of the game and camp enemy default garrisons in offensive mode - firing a HE shell at the garrison every 10 seconds to instakill each spawn

its easy kills and is the fastest way to help your team capture the point

that might be what happened

[runic karma]

Couple of map questions. What does it mean when a squad mate or blueberry lights up/glows on the map? Are they taking fire?

Also, what is the range for garrison "lock down" hard red by an enemy, and garrison red exclamation point.

[autumn rose]

Glows?

[autumn rose]

Lock distance for enemy territory is 100m

[sweet cliff]

If you mouse over the squad the associated berries glow

[autumn rose]

And like 2m for friendly

[runic karma]

I mean on the map. If im dead waiting to deploy sometimes they will glow brighter.

[runic karma]

What about friendly/blue territory

[sweet cliff]

Like a few meters, you have to be right up on it.

[autumn rose]

Yeah sometimes its iffy

I've been sitting on an enemy garrison killing it and as soon as I kill it 20 people spawn and rip me apart

[gloomy grove]

It's like 15m to lock a blue garrison.

If a spawn wave locks in (< 3 seconds on the timer) prior to the garrison locking the spawn wave will happen anyway. Same with OPs dying. If that spawn wave locks in, it is happening

[tight halo]

Hell let loose is 90% running to the objective and 10% dying to artillery lmao

[sweet cliff]

That's a symptom of insufficient quantities, or poorly placed (or both) spawns.

if the entire team is spawning off of 1 or 2 garrisons and a bunch of OPs all squished into the same area you're going to get pinned down and beat up by stuff like artillery.

[tight halo]

Bro, if you saw my games that iv played, you'd be in fuckin aw lmao

[tight halo]

That and recoil on rifles are terrible, I know it's probably me, but on a controller, controlling recoil in this game is aids

[dawn widget]

anyone know how to fix the screen border things on console because I can’t see an option

i can’t see parts of the screen on the corners

can’t see ammo count and that

[sweet cliff]

Maybe try #tech-solutions and #tech-support

[worn patio]

Im a tank crew

With over 100 tanks destroyed (ACE)

[autumn rose]

sounds stinky to me

[dawn widget]

Why is it when I'm randomly driving a light tank I go KIA while there's no shelling happening and my tank is still fine

[sweet cliff]

The screen just goes to the black death screen? You probably got satcheled.

Do you have a clip you can share of this happening?

[dawn widget]

Didn't record it unfortunately

[sweet cliff]

Satchels will blow up a vehicle (sometimes there's some buggy hit boxes) in one hit, so you'll go from existing -> dead but won't get the sound you would from other deaths like when a tank shoots you

[dawn widget]

How did you know your tank was still fine?

Also @sweet cliff do you get that feedback from a landmine?

[sweet cliff]

You know, good point. I think it's different but I can't recall.

[dawn widget]

I can’t remember either

And what do I do when I don't have a blowtorch to repair my tank? Can I drive it somewhere to repair it?

[sweet cliff]

You can have a friendly engineer with a repair torch repair it, visit a repair station (can be built by engineers on the battlefield) and each HQ has one (they are destroyable if people go back there), you can identify them on the map.

I forget what the icon looks like but if you zoom in on an HQ you'll see an example.

[dawn widget]

Does garrisons also repair tanks?

[sweet cliff]

Nope, just repair torches from engineers or tank crew members, or repair stations.

[dawn widget]

Alright, thanks!!

[sweet cliff]

You'll want to either squad up with people that are already >= level 3 crewmen or try to get 3 as soon as possible if you're solo tanking (not generally a great idea) because being able to repair your tank is pretty critical, otherwise any minor track damage will completely hobble you.

[dawn widget]

Yeah, I figured

I gotta find some people to play with :P

[sweet cliff]

Console or PC?

either way you should brush up on https://theline.gg/tankbible/ there's a link to the U10 version if you're on console

[dawn widget]

Thanks

[sweet cliff]

and if you're on PC you should try finding some community servers in your region that you like playing on that have discords, it's a good way to find reliable people to tank with, and crew cohesion is at least 75% of the battle when you're in a tank

edited, unfortunately console has no server browser so it's a bit tougher there.

[dawn widget]

anyone knows any looking for squad discord server or something?

looking to play with some people right now but no-one in the VC in this server unfortunately

[gloomy grove]

You'll want to join a community I suspect. Look for one that fits you and your timezone #pc-divisions-recruitment

Lots of them have open VCs

[olive pecan]

Not a lot of them that accept minors

Unfortunate for me

[dawn widget]

thanks!

[gloomy grove]

Well no, it's a bit weird if adults do want to hang out with children

[olive pecan]

Right right, I was just saying it was difficult to find division's that accepted people below 18

I can definitely understand why though, it makes sense

[still moon]

Your berries are glowing? Might want to get that checked out...

[still vault]

Green berries are also a cause for concern.

[worn patio]

Who needs a tank crew

[still moon]

and blue...forget it.

[fair yarrow]

i got a 2 man tank crew looking for a 3rd

[jaunty lichen]

yes

[tardy violet]

well, then perhaps you (or your squad / whole team) is doing something wrong.
... it doesn't have to be like that if every squad-leader is aware about the crucial Garrisons situation (in terms of actually building** them constantly if too many available) as well as building Outposts and move them forward when map progression has been achieved.
THEN its not a running and dying simulator - at least not the whole time 😉

[upper pumice]

😴

[coarse canopy]

The repair icon looks like a cog or a gear ⚙️

[tight halo]

Well(and I shit you not) every game I join it's like playing with 1 year olds, or dying to bullshit, or flanking by myself hard af, away from everything and then getting head shotted cuz of course someone is with me, this game is just dumb

[dawn widget]

When you’re flanking by yourself hard af, are you a squad leader? Flying ant day is only for the queens.

[warm dome]

Why is the communication non existant in this game?

I have been to three different servers now and I haven't found a single unit where there have been any talking

I was expecting something along the lines of squad because in squad you 9/10 times find a squad that has a squad leader speaking and trying to do something (in completely random servers)

I'm disappointed

[uncut jasper]

This game doesn’t necessitate comms

[warm dome]

I heard a lot about "no comms = no good gameplay"

On both youtube and reddit

[uncut jasper]

From where, reviews? They’re full of shit tbh, you can do a lot for your team without using a mic; the game’s design and mechanics don’t incentivize you to talk. Yes, it can be way more fun with comms tho

Frustrating, right?

[warm dome]

Kinda hard knowing what your objectives are and where to move when your unit leader isn't saying anything

[warm dome]

Yeah

[next lava]

There are features that allow non-vocal communication.

Although it's much better to use voice when calling out enemy disposition.

[uncut jasper]

Objectives are usually hold here or attack there, up to you which you want to do

As long as SL is placing OPs, you get the general idea of what they want to do

[warm dome]

I find that hard to know where enemies are

Because no one is giving me callouts

Or just putting markers on the map

[next lava]

Where is everyone else facing? That's probably where the enemy is. Or just find gaps that aren't covered and search for them. I agree it's more difficult when they aren't called out (especially tanking)

[warm dome]

Of course

I just don't get why all units are so spread out

One guy is across the map, another is in the HQ, another at a random garrison

I can only compare this to squad because it's the closest I know and in Squad you'd basically have your medic with your squad at all times

Infact your SL would most likely ask someone to be medic

Idk if you have played squad before

[next lava]

In good matches, it's to control territory, cut off approaches, and find enemy spawn points. In bad matches, where they are on locked points, etc it's because they don't understand the meta.

[warm dome]

I guess I have only been to bad matches

It feels so stale when no one is speaking

[next lava]

In HLL they'll most likely ask you to play support, for their supplies to build a garrison.

[warm dome]

I see

[next lava]

Medics aren't very practical, unless you've still got a long cool down on your OP, and you're venturing a long way from it.

[warm dome]

Any tips on how to not get sniped everytime you spawn?

[next lava]

So a medics usefulness is very situational... if it takes longer waiting for a revive than spawning at OP to get back in the fight.

[warm dome]

I have managed to master that skill in squad but not in HLL

[warm dome]

Yes, noticed that

[next lava]

This would change if respawning didn't also replenish ammo, and you depended on support/riflemen for that.

[warm dome]

I think it's nice that you get new ammo

[next lava]

Spawn somewhere else, if there's nowhere else, officers haven't been doing their job effectively.

[warm dome]

Again in squad you rely on logistics trucks to bring ammo points and building points, so you need to be very careful with shooting

You can only sometimes have the chance to rearm

I thought it was the same in HLL

Until I kept dying and realised I had restored my ammo

[autumn rose]

😴

[upper crescent]

I'm concerned that SLs chat about wanting to "boot/kick" a team member to allow one of their own to get into a squad. Hearing that and also the kiddie talk/chat makes me wonder if I am really enjoying it here. Had one member stop me in game and started a grade school chant about my nick and other 3rd grade sayings. So after tonight's let down I went to another server and indeed had a better time. I'll rest on this and then see what tomorrow brings. There are good people here, but few.

[sweet cliff]

You don't think people should be able to play with their friends?

[tight halo]

Yeah I'm done with this game, I have to empty a whole fuckin mag into somebody no matter what gun I use but they just eat it and 1 tap me, and apparently they can see me through fuckin everything in this game, grass, trees, walls, buildings, this game is a joke

[uncut jasper]

Sounds like a skill issue

[tight halo]

Damn, got me there, never saw that reply coming, every one and there grandma uses that when they don't know what to actually say

[zenith sigil]

Ggs you obliterated them

[fickle adder]

I hate to say it, but it’s their

[uncut jasper]

Most of the guns in the game with exception of like four or five one-shot anyone in the chest up to at least 100m. Only guns that are pretty universally shit to use are bolt-actions, but they still one-shot to 200m if you can aim. Sounds like your* positioning is off or you are not taking your time and assessing where enemies may or not be. The game is ENTIRELY based on positioning and opportunity.

Or in other words: get good, goober

[grand thistle]

I'm a new player (just started tonight!) and it still sucks dumping half a mag into someone while they get one headshot in. xD having a ton of fun though!

[worn patio]

Tank crew and artillery operator need partners

[unkempt storm]

personally i love the showcase of achievements, I am gasping in awe

[tall orchid]

hello

[vestal iris]

My experience from being a mg gunner is to use the british method of short controlled bursts since even with a deployed mg if I spray at them Id just miss half the time.

But hey fully auto does suppress the hell outta them which is good if your squad leader can call them out for others to hit.

[unkempt storm]

🥱

What, did you get your good time buddies to set that one up for ya. jk

[tall orchid]

of course i did

[grand thistle]

I was using a Thompson at about 15 yards. xD

[vestal iris]

I mean it is a Thompson not great at the accuracy and is a pistol round.

though in fairness I have the same issue with the m14

[next oasis]

The Thompson is just as accurate as any other weapon in HLL

[still vault]

With its tracers aligned slightly to the right of the post.

[vestal iris]

I was reffering more to follow up shot accuracy, but that may be personal preference since I find I'm significantly more accurate with bolt actions or the grand.

[quiet escarp]

best way to utilise thompson is to fire 2 second bursts around an enemy's head

almost guarantees a headshot

[next oasis]

It only takes two hits to the target within 75m (with 'smg' rounds). You're almost always better off just doing that instead

[quiet escarp]

this is for shots longer than abt 100 metres away

but for shorter range shots youre very right

[sacred ruin]

Hey guys

I just bought hll today

Just wanna ask in which community server should I play?

[sweet cliff]

Not a meme channel.

[tight halo]

Sure, when I'm face to face with someone and put 12 rounds in him and he eats it and puts 1 in me, makes sense

[next oasis]

you're missing...

[still vault]

Limb damage, or a case of terrible connection and system setup reliability.

[uncut jasper]

Limb damage will not make you take 12+ bullets to down someone. 3-4 at the very, very most and in extremely rare scenarios

Either bad connection or bad aim or both

[unkempt storm]

or major haxx0rs

from sir_haxxalots.iTz

[next oasis]

3-4?

try +1, and thats only if it's below the knees

[ruby sapphire]

just got the game and booted up time to get some

[south cedar]

Are there any discounts? I wanna play the game lol

[dawn widget]

Humble Store is 33% off until tomorrow and is 100% legit. GreenMan is 44% off and is 92% legit.

[vestal iris]

tested something like this today ended the match with 27 kills. so have a commend emote for the great advice?

[sullen sundial]

what do i do when being spawncamped at hq

[gloomy grove]

Spawn at a different one

[vestal iris]

Sounds sarcastic but yeah spawn elsewhere and then make a new front to spawn from. Preferably one opposite your teams spawn so you can counter the camping.

[lapis cloak]

Hi all, I'm wondering if there is anything else I can do to boost my FPS in this game?

I've tried so many options and nothing is really working

[fathom jackal]

I'd recommend dropping graphics quality? There are a few guides on Steam which are quite useful

[lapis cloak]

@fathom jackal Could you link one please, I thought I found one before but it was just someone moaning about nazi regiments

[fathom jackal]

Apologies - I was thinking of an article, not on Steam at all. https://www.gamerevolution.com/guides/692750-hell-let-loose-best-pc-settings-2021-high-fps-visibility

[last cloud]

Like they said, spawn somewhere else, and then try to take out the enemies in your HQ from a different direction. Also, if theres a light tank or recon vehicle in one of the side HQs, you could grab that and try to take them out with it.

Also, if you can convince a couple other players to work with you to take out the enemies, that'd also be very helpful

[dawn widget]

is there an LFG?

[glad pasture]

Yes here #pc-looking-for-unit and #pc-divisions-recruitment

[dawn widget]

thank u

[chrome linden]

Are there any units for console players?

[next lava]

#console-looking-for-unit and #console-divisions-recruitment

[clear flume]

looking for someone to play with on pc

[dawn widget]

How do u use a dlc

And what is the best dlc

[sweet cliff]

They're just uniform cosmetics, you buy them and select them for different roles in the barracks screen, but some of them have class level requirements

There is no 'best' dlc

[livid jacinth]

You could argue that the white helmet has a tactical purpose on foy

[uncut jasper]

Yeah, giving me more headshots

[lapis cloak]

Its better but I'm still not hitting 60, it tends to hang around 54 dipping to the 40's and even 30's when there's a lot going on

[supple prairie]

if u see someone new in here by the name of tight scrotum tell him he has a tight scrotum

[violet terrace]

New member, what’s up fellas

[normal pike]

Hey mate welcome!

[vestal iris]

Welcome in

[clear flume]

need someone to play with new to the sever bur rank 21 on HHL

pc

[obtuse schooner]

new to the game and wanting some people to play with. im pretty trash so dont expect me to do good lmao

pc

[autumn rose]

If anyone needs some help who's new I can help

Played every class quite a bit

Almost 800 hours

I'll try my best to assist

[dawn widget]

hello

does anyone have some type of map that shows good positions for what tanks on what maps and gamemodes earlygame/starting

new player here, but wanting to invest my game time into tank commander

specifically lighter tanks

[sweet cliff]

The light tanks can't really kill anything from the front so you have to take them on pretty wide flanks.

https://theline.gg/tankbible/#top

[dawn widget]

BBW hmmm

[sweet cliff]

So that gives a great overview of the tank types and how they interact with each other (and AT)

Knowing what tank you can kill from your tank is essential because it'll dictate how you approach engagements, if you're in the stuart for instance you can only hurt a Pz IV or Tiger from the rear.

[dawn widget]

i mean this in the lightest way possible, do you have some guide that isnt intended to help elderly grandmas understand their first tank

this is a good guide though

im just looking for stuff slightly more intermediate i guess?

thank you nonetheless

i just mean like a guide that can explain in depth good positioning and places to go to, to maximise sight, spotting etc

i am new and i do apologise if i seem cocky i just already know most of these things such as kiting or sidescraping

[normal pike]

Not that I have seen, largely map experience, reading your opponents movements

[dawn widget]

thank you

[normal pike]

That said, there is an HLL tankers discord worth joining, you might be able to have a go on stratsketch with some us other tank vets 🙂

[dawn widget]

that would be great

im just wanting to get into tank commanding so learning how to read the map properly and assess where i should direct my driver would be great

man update 10 must have been massive to tanks with all these things

[normal pike]

More importantly, a consistent crew. Then as commander, you can relay the intent (want to hold E4-5 and watch for tanks from D7) and the driver and gunner do the rest....

[sweet cliff]

If you're dismissing the tank bible you're doing yourself a massive disservice because it's a video game and you should dismiss any preconceptions you have on how tanks work in real life

Think of it less as a guide and more as a reference, read it and understand how the tanks work in game and how they interact with each other

[normal pike]

Ensure your driver can master the 4-2 turn instictively 😉

[sweet cliff]

And then you take that knowledge and apply it in game, like you're in a jumbo 75 and a tiger rolls up, the only frontal shot you have is hard to do, but you can dump smoke in its face and run

[dawn widget]

im not

im also not basing my gameplay after real life

dw

[sweet cliff]

But having a crew you get along with and works well together is the most important factor to success

The second is being willing to all commit to and execute the same plan

[dawn widget]

alr

[sweet cliff]

Which can be hard to get if you don't join a server with 2 other people

I'm not aware of a more advanced guide though unfortunately

Would not be a fast process but you can watch gameplay footage on YouTube

See how people set up engagements and such

[sweet cliff]

One thing you could do would be to hop on empty servers and drive around (recon vehicles are fast and easiest to drive) and get an idea of what parts of the map(s) look like

but it's going to be hard to substitute for hundreds of hours of map/in game knowledge, it's super useful to be able to pull up the tac map and have a decent idea of what the terrain is like at a spot on the map

[next lava]

Particularly if you want to use the terrain for defilade.

[vernal hinge]

Hello the people

[neat jacinth]

where can i buy the game globally

[glad pasture]

Check link for P.C. : https://store.steampowered.com/app/686810/Hell_Let_Loose/

Steam

Hell Let Loose

Fight in the most iconic battles of the Western Front, including Carentan, Omaha Beach and Foy and more. This is combat at a whole new scale....with lumbering tanks dominating the battlefield, crucial supply chains fuelling the frontlines, you are a cog in the machine of colossal combined arms warfare. Hell Let Loose puts you in the chaos of war...

Price

$39.99

Recommendations

44568

Metacritic

79

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[vale epoch]

Is it just me or is the optimization a bit wack?

[icy roost]

medium to high settings i still barely push 60-90fps @vale epoch

[vale epoch]

What gpu?

[icy roost]

rtx 3070, i9-9900, 48gb ram

[vale epoch]

Jessus

at 1080p or 1440?

[icy roost]

1080

could be because im running low on storage too but idk

[vale epoch]

Okay yeah then the game def isn't optimised

[vale epoch]

Really not an issue with modern hardware

Its a pain that I can barely even run medium at 60fps, because it actually makes it quite difficult to see enemies :(

[icy roost]

i was sniping on high settings but LOD's were still block textures at distance. so either i run at epic settings and have better visibility when sniping, or run 60+fps and medium/high

[vale epoch]

I really hope they spend time actually optimizing the game

[icy roost]

it runs in UE so hopefully it will be, UE5 has a lot of optimization features

especially with nanite

[vale epoch]

Oh yea

How active are they with updates?

[icy roost]

not sure, i only got the game like 2 days ago lmoa

lmao

[vale epoch]

Ah, same. Already love it. Just get really sometimes frustrated that I cant even see the enemy because the visuals are a mess on the lowest setting

[still vault]

Ever since U11.

[still vault]

48GB of RAM? What? 4x12?

[still vault]

To answer that, currently, no real compatbility between UE4 and UE5 games exist. Ported projects still require massive rebuilding of core game project components.

Also, HLL uses UE4 version 4.25.3. Not even something being considered for UE5 compatibility.

[icy roost]

I know it's not running on ue5 yet, I just meant that with that starting to come out of beta and being pushed more, that it's opening up a lot more possibilities for optimization

[still vault]

Apologies for repeated pings, but this is the third to fifth time minimum someone has reported abnormally low FPS for a beefy system, even at 1080p. No one has managed to figure out a consistent source for it even prior to U11 (December 2021).

[still vault]

Perhaps. The switch is still a drastic one, though, due to the new material and mesh systems employed, among other new components.

[icy roost]

I've had a few issues when porting some projects over, some have worked reasonably well but I know its easier said than done especially to a game of this scale

how exactly are the LOD's working along with any model instancing ?

[still vault]

Of course. Custom projects and work, especially when those projects are already finicky and destabilized, leaves even more room open for things to break further.

[still vault]

Good question. A manual HLOD system was beginning to be implemented as of U11, but it was not fully implemented nor rendered stable. A smart materials method is also being implemented in a future update, but it is not likely to help much.

It is also believed that the reworked audio in U11 is to blame for some possible crashes, though most memory object crashes appear to have been rectified or mitigated as of right now.

Also, I know Crispy had something to input, so I shall cease for the moment.

[icy roost]

is it working on a case of, the map is constantly in render but everything within a say 600x600m is working on LOD system for each player?

[still vault]

That I do not know. However what I do know is, the Scalability Groups have been messed around with and are "custom" settings relative to the available quality settings.

[icy roost]

makes sense, I was wondering if the rendering could work in a chunk based system. for instance, the maps themselves are seperated into grids, maybe the grids could have the individual information for render to help with the lod's and maybe optimize a little.

probably doesnt make any sense but without knowing how it already works its difficult to think of work arounds yanno?

[still vault]

Also, most of the crucial settings have been intentionally obfuscated since around U9, because players kept removing the foliage to get an edge.

[icy roost]

yeah thats also been an issue in things like arma

[still vault]

Classic 15-30m grass rendering distance moment.

[icy roost]

it sucks crawling through a heavily foliaged field, to get killed by someone who sees you crawling along a plane of clay

[still vault]

Of course.

Kursk is the one map that disregards the foliage quality settings, as its grass has to be everywhere.

Mostly.

[icy roost]

yeah i have a clip on there of sniping from windmill, a guy crawling through a field and im assuming he was in grass but i could see him and nothing else around him

[next oasis]

you should stop using grass as cover

anyone reasonable shouldn't question why he was shot while prone in the middle of a field

[still vault]

Too bad players want to believe.

[icy roost]

the same can be said about anything, dont hide behind tree or block of rubble. you may blend in, but after 150m that model will downgrade into a block and you stick out

[next oasis]

Object permanence eludes many HLL players

[still vault]

The only thing in their minds is "game" and "cover safe".

[dawn widget]

wait yeah does everyone struggle with render distance

Like the game runs fine but use your binocs and houses are a jumble of very weird looking, soft squares and anything else are just blobs

Or does having a better computer disregard this?

[still vault]

This is known. The LOD system at this time is ass. A manual one intends to replace it.

[still vault]

For that matter, how low on storage are you?

What does the storage drive setup look like, and what is the percentage of capacity used in each drive?

[icy roost]

around 40gb left on main drive. i have a 240gb OS SSD and a 480gb SSD for applications and 2tb HDD for standard files. in the process of moving things round, increasing storage to about 2tb SSD main drive so everythings kinda jumbled onto one atm

but will be getting bigger drive and reformatting and reinstalling

[still vault]

Are these pre-provisioned SSDs for things like cell wearing, or not that you are aware?

...That was a stupid question. Anyway.

Did you disable the page files on the storage SSD and the HDD, or no?

[icy roost]

the HDD currently isnt being used hence the storage being filled up. im in the process of replacing it all so. and no off the top of my head im not sure

[still vault]

Can you check under View advanced system settings, or System Restore?

[icy roost]

so its all on automatically manage for all drives

i should probably turn that off

currently at 7168mb automatically allocated

[still vault]

Yeah, perhaps. Just leave it on for the boot drive at best.

[icy roost]

yeah it was only on for the boot drive anyway, the other one was automatically off

[still vault]

Alright then.

What about the recovery partitions for System Restore backups? How much space did those use up?

[icy roost]

this?

[still vault]

No, not that. Go to Settings, then to whatever the search result for Create a system partition or something is.

It should list drives with system protection turned On or Off.

[icy roost]

yeah 505mb

as the recovery partition

[still vault]

I see. Hmm.

Should it be turned off, in your opinion?

[icy roost]

im not really too sure. tbh I dont know if the partition is having much impact. Im going to upgrade soon anyway so ill leave it as is, and after reformatting maybe ill get the performance i want haha

[still vault]

We shall see. However, it not having at least 60 minimum (I can achieve better on an inferior system before the Out of Memory crashes occur) is concerning.

[still vault]

Hmm...Wait, I have an idea. What if you removed the supposedly empty and formatted HDD from the case, cabling and all, and re-tested it without that component drawing power?

[icy roost]

It currently takes no power. Its already been removed a while ago, waiting for upgrades

[still vault]

Oh, very well. Just making sure after remembering that that CPU and GPU are notorious for steep power draw.

What PSU is in the system?

[icy roost]

750w I'm pretty sure

Evga 750w gold or something like that

I'm gonna upgrade my storage and replace my cpu cooling anyways and see how it goes 😊

[still vault]

Very well. I wonder if that PSU is being strained at all by the combined draw of the CPU and GPU, but perhaps there may be another solution instead.

Also, did you get the latest AMD Chipset drivers for your motherboard?

The ones that actually install seamlessly now?

[latent monolith]

Salutations, question what is the best class for newbie players?

[sweet cliff]

if your mic works and you'll listen when people need supplies, support isn't bad, you get a rifle and grenades and also a box that you can put down so people can build things

https://www.reddit.com/r/hellletloose/comments/q23r8m/_/

that's the new players guide

[latent monolith]

I've been doing Medic/Engineer lately.

Actually I'm almost to Tier 3 Machine Gunner too lol.

[sweet cliff]

You can really play any class as long as you're playing the objective

[vale epoch]

Is the game more cpu or gpu intensive?

[sweet cliff]

CPU seems to be the common consensus.

[main bough]

To my knowledge it's more CPU dependent. 😉

[still vault]

Disabling the Windows High Precision Event Timer in the Device Manager to save precious milliseconds of CPU overhead seems to lend to this. The problem is why the game is so inefficient when it comes to leveraging the CPU, which probably has to do with internal instability.

[spiral compass]

Enable DX12 and it will become very GPU intensive

As it should be...

[icy roost]

@still vault

just the in game stats. i spent my day updating bios, graphics drivers etc etc but this is essentially what im getting rn

[unique steppe]

have you tried running the game with dx12 startup command?

[icy roost]

I have done since i got the game

I run with -high -dx12

[unique steppe]

I have rtx3070 as well if I turn on dx12, I get somewhere between 70-90

Game is not optimised so this is the best we get I think

[icy roost]

I run 3070 with i9-9900K and on medium settings i get 60-90fps with occasional stuttering

[unique steppe]

Yeah lowering settings does not effect FPS for me, I don't know why.

[unique steppe]

What happens with Epic or High gfx?

[icy roost]

about the same

40-60 i think

even on medium though, intense bombing runs in towns will drop to 30 occasionally

[unique steppe]

Sorry dude, I don't know what it is. This games behaves in a very strange way when it comes to optimisation.

[icy roost]

tbh though even on games like overwatch and valorant i still barely push 200-250 so its most likely to do with my rig

[unique steppe]

I see. If you happen to solve the problem and get crashes saying "d3d device removed" try running the game in windowed fullscreen.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HellLetLoose/comments/ppxqfs/hell_let_loose_optimization_guide_bonus_not/ Here's an optimization guide

Hope you fix it.

[icy roost]

okay tyy

[still vault]

Hmm...This performance is equivalent to a HDD-using system, e.g. mine. It should not be a thing to this extent.

Have you tried repairing the Steam Library folders in the Steam client settings, to make sure all of the games there are fine?

Also, what kind of RAM and timings are in use?

[latent sinew]

need a place for the bois? we are the bois looking for chill people we play a varity of game including this one we some cool cats 18+ preferably but its cool if not @latent sinew

[mystic narwhal]

Anyone looking for new members?

[sweet cliff]

#pc-divisions-recruitment

[mystic narwhal]

I’m Xbox

[sweet cliff]

Or the equivalent console ones

[mystic narwhal]

Unfortunately

[sweet cliff]

I don't have the console roles so I don't know the names but they exist I believe

[mystic narwhal]

Cheers

[dawn widget]

Visit #readme-rules and click your degenerate icon to be welcomed to the console channels

[hot jacinth]

Hey

[still vault]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/physx/physx-9-21-0713-driver/

New PhysX System Software driver released.

[loud ocean]

when are we getting japan

[glad pasture]

It may be some time yet:

"Eastern front map: Kharkov" unveiled by Max in a U10 interview
2022 Roadmap:
Western Front - Unannounced Map(s) currently in development
Night Map Variant - Selected Maps (With Flares)
British Forces - Including 2 Operation Market Garden Maps
Future Development:
Canadian forces - including 2 Falaise Pocket Maps
Japanese forces - including 2 Pacific Theatre Maps
Several NEW maps will be added to each of the above theatres and are in development now.

[vagrant furnace]

and hitboxes... dont forget that

[loud ocean]

okay, thanks

[proud bane]

did the revive achievments get fixed?

[main bough]

@proud bane To my knowledge "Yes".

[last cloud]

That was due to changes they made so that if you disconnected and then reconnected quickly you would keep your score and stats. That caused an issue with tracking some stats, such as how long you were alive for and revives, but that was fixed with the patch a while ago

[proud bane]

ok thank you both

[gloomy grove]

Got to start including Remagen instead of an unannounced western front map

[modern rampart]

As well as "other parts of Stalingrad" for at least one of the upcoming EF maps

[gloomy grove]

Good point, forgot about that one

[modern kestrel]

hello

[dawn widget]

Greetings

[stray heron]

is this the place for absolute beginners?

[tall orchid]

yep

[bold jacinth]

I just got the game, looks fun but overwhelming

[still vault]

Eventually it will be learned. Just rebind the keys to be a mix of some other games, and never set Postprocessing Quality above Medium.

[bold jacinth]

dude thanks for the tip! post processing makes sense, I'm running a 6900XT and it seemed a little choppy

I have only played one game and I kinda felt bad for my team. I didn't understand anything haha

I expected more people using voip. Maybe it was just the game I was in

[next oasis]

People really overthink what you need to do in this game

[bold jacinth]

You have to admit it seems like a lot to take in. I play tarkov and this game "feels" more in depth

[next oasis]

It's not any more complex than other shooters.
I think it's actually much more simple.

[bold jacinth]

I guess I could read the instructions haha

[dawn widget]

yo

[stray heron]

True

[next oasis]

Get to the objective zone that's in play at the moment.
Don't spend too much time elsewhere other than the objective zones.
That's basically it. Games are lost when players on a team fail to see that they're just floating around in other areas of the map, usually in between either active objectives.

They just stay there, floating, and contributing to neither attack or defense

[bold jacinth]

Is roleplay common at all? Or is it mostly more like a game

[next oasis]

Gamey.
RPing is for YouTube vids.

[bold jacinth]

gotcha

[signal harness]

Check out the pinned messages in this channel for some good guides

[bold jacinth]

nice I'll do that right now

[signal harness]

Its not that much that the game is deep, but that most of the mechanics are unexplained

The player made guides are really helpful for explaining the way things work.

[still vault]

The amount of roles confuses them.

[next oasis]

Hll seems to draw people that seem to have never played any other videogame before tbh

[still vault]

UE4 Postprocessing is notoriously ass. This game is no exception, as Epic Postprocessing Quality introduces a global Depth of Field setting that is only useful for sweet, sweet cinematic screenshots.

[still vault]

Remember that it is the hot new game replacing COD on Steam.

[next oasis]

Not buying that excuse.
Hll players seem like it's their first game ever

[still vault]

For there are no new COD games on Steam anymore.

So this is the one where people flock to it as something vaguely BF-like, and because friends play it.

[signal harness]

Or their brains fell out on install

[next oasis]

Devs aren't faultless though. A lot of the confusion comes from them adding literal magic to the game. The learning curve is understanding where this "magic" is applied in the games workings

[bold jacinth]

I don't play shooters other than tarkov. I literally dump hundreds of hours in D&D style arpgs and fromsoft games. From watching RP youtube channels is probably where I got the idea its more complex than it is.

[still vault]

Additionally, some of the keybinds are not always intuitive. Marking targets by clicking the mouse wheel is not ergonomic, for instance.

[signal harness]

If you like fromsoft games you might enjoy HLL. RO2 /RS2 offer a more complex shooting experience though, similar to the procedural difficulty of the souls series.

[cosmic cipher]

Why doesnt voice chat work on the series s

I'd ask in console-support but i dont have access lmfao

[unkempt storm]

I can’t fix your problem, but go to #readme-rules to get access 😌

[grave bear]

can someone point me to a resource that tells me what upgrades I get at reaching level 3 and 6 on each of the infantry classes on console version? It is German and American factions only. Trying to figure out what I what to grind next

[sweet cliff]

Do you guys have the barracks screen where you change your uniforms?

Should be able to see the loadouts in there

[grave bear]

i can change uniforms but it just shows that different loadouts are available with different guns but will not show me the different equipment until I unlock them

makes it difficult to assess what I will be able to do which each locked class from a role perspective

[sweet cliff]

Ah, sorry on PC you can click them and see.

If you can find the loadouts for PC for U10 that should be the same I think

I don't play console though so I might be feeding you bad info

[next lava]

If by magic you mean player created spawn points, it's not exactly a new or revolutionary game mechanic.

[autumn rose]

HLL is the first video game chum has ever played

So it was new to him

[next oasis]

no. that's not what i mean.

Things don't need to be revolutionary, but HLL is unintuitive in its systems. A lot of things work in ways opposite, or incredibly simplistic, to what players would initially think.

[autumn rose]

🥱

[next oasis]

magic in HLL is soldier cap rates

guns that have harsh and immediate damage drop offs, soldier hitboxes.

[dawn widget]

Kinda sad you’re doing this in here. Didn’t you enjoy yourself for the first couple of years?

[next oasis]

Read more up this time

[dawn widget]

I did

[next oasis]

im not the one who's ever said some form of , "these idiots are probably from some OTHER shooter!"

you would never give someone that says something of that sort any flak, would you

[dawn widget]

I don’t understand, but ok. Do your thing.

[dawn widget]

I have, just this game has a steep learning curve

[next lava]

Disagree.

[next lava]

Totally agree.

[clever hamlet]

Hey this is prob a dumb question but im a newb, is there any penalty for dying besides the respawn timer?

[gloomy grove]

It costs some manpower for the commander to use... But basically no. They don't run out any more

[quiet escarp]

Not really, it costs a negligible amount of manpower which is a resource which can be used liberally anyway

[clever hamlet]

Ah ty

[half monolith]

I love your april fool 👍 (you got me )

[dawn widget]

How much does it use exactly? The internet is inconsistent on this point. And what are the mechanics of Offensive Overtime as of April 2022?

[gloomy grove]

It depends on the class killed. It's 1/3 of the combat score gained afaik

And overtime uses 5 manpower per second. If the bar goes fully to the defensive team at any point during over time, it's over. You must have some cap progress to begin overtime when the timer reaches zero

[dawn widget]

Thanks Mr Salt 👍 was wondering if deaths in overtime had started mattering. Nice

Oh wait, I guess they do matter. Just in the normal way.

[gloomy grove]

Yeah, exactly

Manpower is lost on death by the way, not on spawn

So if you are downed you have cost zero manpower

[dawn widget]

That’s another reason defenders should be able to execute the downed with projectile weapons

[gloomy grove]

Explosives will kill them I think

You just can't shoot or knife them

[dawn widget]

I think we should be able to. Doesn’t really make sense. Anyway

[gloomy grove]

Back when downed players locked garrisons, you'd have loads of scenarios of just dropping a grenade near friendly garrisons to clear it

You'd have to guess which body was blocking it

[dawn widget]

I heard the shotgun can do it too? Or was that a lie

[gloomy grove]

Shotgun insta-kills if you're close

I don't know if it'll kill a downed player though

[torn prairie]

Instagib 😍

[dawn widget]

Skirbs do you know?

[gloomy grove]

Skirbs knows nothing

[torn prairie]

quickly reads the chat

[gloomy grove]

He's a Tarkov player now

[dawn widget]

You don’t need to know things when you’re of pure golden birth

[torn prairie]

I am a retired addict now thank you

[gloomy grove]

Are you relaxing in your retirement with some casual Tarkov?

[torn prairie]

What exactly is the question btw?

[torn prairie]

looks at sad uninstalled tarkov folder

[gloomy grove]

Can a shotgun kill a downed player

[gloomy grove]

You actually did it, you madman

[torn prairie]

I don't know this for a fact but I know you effectively instagib a downed player with a shotgun yes. Not actually sure if that means you are dead however seeing as it results in body parts all over the place, i'm pretty sure it does yes

[torn prairie]

Thisssss happened monthssssssssss ago

[dawn widget]

Thank you, works for me

[torn prairie]

Its actually very satisfying - especially in One Life Events I've found

[dawn widget]

Looking forward to Tarkov when I finally get a new PC. The GFN experiment has failed. It’s almost the real thing. But it’s still diet coke

[gloomy grove]

Well, I apologise for the accusations

[torn prairie]

Slander and defamation

[gloomy grove]

I'll see you in court

[dawn widget]

Why am I getting three pings when there's no pings?

[warm prism]

1st April

[dense sequoia]

IS there any change in the game? (bc of 1st of april)

[stark moon]

Just assume no.. but yes.... i mean it's the first of the month... but then its april...so no...but yes

[hollow zenith]

Where did I get mentioned

The same thing happened in another server

[dense sequoia]

april 1

[hot storm]

^^^

[hollow zenith]

Gunna kms

Really just fell for that

[shy birch]

They got me with those pings😆

[lusty frigate]

Me too xD

[vestal iris]

wait why'd the number go up

[pure panther]

in response to your new server icon: thanks. i hate it

[compact stratus]

was wondering why i couldnt actually see any notifications. ive just remembered what today is...

[worn laurel]

OMG THEY GOT ME SO GOOOD

[pure panther]

i hate it so much lmao

my ocd is screaming

[floral phoenix]

oh my god bruh i just realized

took me 2 hours

[wary obsidian]

doesnt make any sense

[gloomy grove]

Wow I can't believe you're the first one to notice that

[tiny flame]

lmao XD

[still vault]

The server icon has been edited for April Fool's Day.

[unkempt storm]

No it’s not, I just have 4 pings from Danny

[rustic prism]

are there any guides that are good for identifying tanks? so I can stop telling my squad about friendly tanks

[stark wasp]

The shape

Engine sound

[rustic prism]

yeah, are there any guides telling me about the different shapes and engine sounds for each faction?

[stark wasp]

Probably

[rustic prism]

cool

[stark wasp]

You could just hope on a empty server and try them out

[rustic prism]

true, thats a good idea

[still vault]

Puma: Wheels with Front gun.
Tiger: German black tank.
Panzer IV: German Brown/blue camo.
Luchs: Rooty tooty Spam and shooty.

[rustic prism]

thanks haha

even the names is good cause i can google it

[still vault]

Stuart: APC thing.
Sherman 75: American tank with short gun.
Sherman 76 Jumbo: Sherman with long gun. Destroys everything in existence.

[rustic prism]

awesome thanks. do russians have armor?

[still vault]

Yes.

I forgot those tanks, though. There may be an IS-1 among them.

[rustic prism]

cool, no worries, thanks for your help, thats awesome

[stark wasp]

T34

Is1

German tanks have metal tracks so the noise is different

[scenic mesa]

did you seriously put a (4) icon on the discord icon. who's idea was this, holey moley

[still vault]

Today is Fool's Day.

[stark wasp]

American have rubber tracks

[scenic mesa]

oh ok

[still vault]

The meme of editing server icons to add fake pings was spread around in advance.

[rustic prism]

oh nice, thats a good tip

they changed it back already?

mine doesnt have a 4 anymore

[scenic mesa]

was the server icon just reverted back to the original?

[still vault]

So it seems.

[scenic mesa]

the (4) is now gone

[still vault]

Awareness of the joke purged it.

[tall orchid]

https://icilia95.wixsite.com/tankopedia

no engine sounds but it'll get you started

[pallid ridge]

hi, what is this game

on the edge of buying it but i cant understand the "RTS inspired" side of it

[stark wasp]

mmmm

It's fun at times and frustrating

[pallid ridge]

in what way?

[stark wasp]

You spawn,die rinse and repeat

[pallid ridge]

spawncamping?

[stark wasp]

Sometimes you don't know what even kills you unless you blow up

[stark wasp]

No exactly

You walk a lot tho

[pallid ridge]

is there a game you could describe it as being similar to?

like tarkov?

[stark wasp]

I guess

You played arma or squad?

[pallid ridge]

no but ive seen gameplay of those

[stark wasp]

Just like that

[pallid ridge]

so how much time is spent doing stuff vs just wandering around the map

[stark wasp]

It mostly depends

On what your squad is doing

[pallid ridge]

makes sense

[signal harness]

Ideally very little. If your team is good you should have plenty of garrisons to spawn and ideally your SL has an OP near the action

[pallid ridge]

ive been feeling burnt out of playing tactical competitive fps games and been in the market for a chill fps and my friend brought this game up

[stark wasp]

https://youtu.be/lFbQCda57js

[pallid ridge]

oh thank you

[stark wasp]

This game is not chill

But fun also

If you like seeing bodies blowing up

[pallid ridge]

how is it not chill?

do you get angry teammates yelling at you and calling you slurs like valorant?

[signal harness]

The community is very chill compared to most games

[stark wasp]

Some do

Not like valo

You might get someone complaining that the sl is not doing well

Like placing spawn point for your squad

Every rol is important

[pallid ridge]

holy crap im watching this vid and it seems even more teamwork based than 5v5 shooters

[still vault]

Think "You must commit to your class role."

[stark wasp]

100 players

[pallid ridge]

sounds really fun actually, even if its not the chill shooter i thought it was

[stark wasp]

It's fun

[pallid ridge]

aight im sold

[still vault]

Imagine Battlefield: Bad Company 2 in terms of movement, set in World War 2, and amounting to Saving Private Ryan gameplay.

[stark wasp]

It's also terrifying

[still vault]

Sometimes.

[stark wasp]

Yes

[tall orchid]

its the lovechild of arma3 and battlefield

[next oasis]

Mmmm no

[still vault]

Not ArmA; no.

[signal harness]

Obviously, its the perfect blend of Project Reality, Red Orchestra 2, and Company of Heroes.

[next oasis]

Oh definitely.
Hll draws from the voice communication setup of PR,
The fps gameplay of CoH,
and the logistics systems of Red Orchestra.

[modern rampart]

If only..

One of the devs described it as "sitting somewhere between Battlefield and Squad" though people have very different opinions on whether that is true or not.

[next oasis]

That might have been their over arching developemtn objective at one time, but anyone who's played the game knows that statement isn't applicable

[signal harness]

Fisher price milsim. Child's first "hardcore" shooter

[modern rampart]

Funny considering that this statement came frome somebody, who openly stated he does not play the game really.

[next oasis]

I figured that already

[signal harness]

It still has a lot wierd baggage from different design phases too.

Like tanks function incredibly simplistically, except you need 3 crew members and the driver needs to shift the gear.

[dawn widget]

Hello

I was thinking about getting this game

But I have a gaming laptop

With a 1050 GTX and Ryzen 3550H

Will it be able to run the game?

An of course I'm going to plug it in when playing

[dawn widget]

It looks like even the 1050 desktop edition is slower than the 960 that’s the minimum. You could always try it and refund it though.

[dawn widget]

Hello everyone

[cobalt chasm]

That's weird, I lag with a 1660S

[autumn rose]

the game is just a shitshow performance

[silent silo]

I had a bunch of problems with my 3060 before I switched off to DX12.

Might do well to increase performance on some cards if you have problems.

[cobalt chasm]

Going DX12 doesn't really help

[autumn rose]

^^

dx12 didn't help mine

[rustic prism]

awesome, thank you, thats perfect

[rustic prism]

i literally have the minimum requirements and my game runs fine, a lot of games dont run well on my system but I dont have a problem with this one

I do have an i7 though, maybe thats why

[still vault]

I have one thought.

What do you all have set for the Body Despawn Delay? I have the lowest, at 0.8 minutes or seconds or something.

[next lava]

I noticed they removed the slider for that on console, after the PS5 beta. It didn't seem to make an appreciable difference, but I can understand why it would, particularly in congested areas during combat.

[still vault]

Not to mention the amount of objects rendered in screen-space, or at all.

[pure coral]

https://youtube.com/channel/UC19koHMPeni1i3lRqjExC7g

Thats just my channel but nice to be here check it out

[main bough]

@rustic prism I have 2 systems and I've never had any issues with my older system and the game either. Doing a lot of this out here support wise we've seen top of the line systems having issues with HLL and systems half that or just meeting requirements and doing very well. I've also noticed more issues point to things with peoples systems overall not the actual hardware they have. OS issues, OC'ing, older BIOS, corrupt OS, missing files, drivers, and so on. The variables can be extensive depending.

[still vault]

And those are the variables excluding the game's own internal instability and internal modifying breaking it.

[lusty wing]

Bruh i have like 8gb of ram and im trying to play hell let loose

[autumn rose]

rip

[shy dagger]

Good morning. I am new to the game, but not new to fps sim. Would someone like to game with me so i can get more familiarised with the game hell let loose

[sweet cliff]

I'd hit up some of the help resources pinned in here.

[shy dagger]

Its like i use my mic, but nobody seems to use it

[sweet cliff]

Have you tried using the in game audio tuning stuff? Chances are people are just ignoring you but there is a small chance your settings are off

[shy dagger]

yeah i played on another server and they hear me just fun

[sweet cliff]

ah, yeah sometimes people just don't want to talk 😦

[shy dagger]

mostly ignoring, since i am new

[sweet cliff]

but #pc-looking-for-unit

Gotcha, so I would read the new players guide (https://www.reddit.com/r/hellletloose/comments/q23r8m/_/)

Should give you a good baseline if you're new and not very familiar with the game

[shy dagger]

i played insurgency on esl for years with my org. want to play something new

thanks noodle

[sweet cliff]

if you know how the game modes work, spawn points, etc. you should have a better time even if people do ignore you.

[shy dagger]

im doing fine, its just not all are so friendly, stick to themselves

you understand what i mean

[sweet cliff]

oh yeah, that's just how it is sometimes unfortunately

are you playing on community servers or official servers or a mix of both?

[shy dagger]

mixed

community mostly

[sweet cliff]

I'd suggest playing on community servers only, better chance of there being regulars on those so you can potentially start playing with the same people, lots of them are going to have discords which is another good way to find people to play with, and generally they should have active admins

which is important because they'll clean out the riff raff and also have blacklisted people over time from their own actions and from community reports

[shy dagger]

thanks for the tips

[sweet cliff]

and if there's active admins you won't run into that problem where say someone is TKing or doing other bad behavior but you can't get enough people to agree to a vvote kick

[manic folio]

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[opal cape]

So is it normal that every server in existence has a 3 digit ping? Even ones in your own region?

[tall orchid]

ingame on a full server? yeah, pretty common

browser ping is substantially lower since it isn’t factoring in server calc times, just single packet rtt

[frosty ridge]

i won my first ever game played with like 200 ping, so dont worry about it, look for a good squad leader and dont do hero plays lol

[opal cape]

If I can ever even actually get into a server

[merry stag]

quickest question in history

in hll, do u get exp only after finishing a match , or on every kill / heal / build / etc. ?

[tall orchid]

all of the above

[latent monolith]

Salutations, question what is the best way to find good server that there's communication.

Any server tips?

[stark wasp]

Try and look for community i think that's your best option

[unkempt zinc]

Is the bullet penetration inside of Developer Briefing #88 (https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/686810/view/2760096678556778339) still accurate, or has it been updated at all?

[next oasis]

It started off prerty bad, and has had an update to it since. Its in the game, but people don't really complain about it anymore.
Serviceable at best.

[unkempt zinc]

I guess i'm asking if there is still a difference of bullet penetration between pistol and rifle rounds?

[next oasis]

As far as I know, no one has ever formally tested exact differences across rounds and various surfaces. From what I can tell just through gameplay of my own, there are slight differences in BP ability depending on what type of weapon you are shooting, not necessarily with the irl caliber. It's as simple as "does this weapon BP? yes or no."

[rustic tartan]

the bullet penetration works well at least for me

its weird sometimes but its overall decent

[unkempt zinc]

Gotcha, thanks guys

[rustic tartan]

also, is it me or the Svt is super inconsistent at 300+ meters?

i can kill people at 250 or so, but after that is like the bullet goes through people and does 0 damage

i see the bullet hitting the ground behind the people, but they just keep running

[next oasis]

It's really not something that happens often enough where I'd expect the devs to have a robust system for something like that.

[still vault]

On the scoreboard is a Latency measurement. This is ping with additional processing delays.

[pure coral]

JAY has Entered the Building!!!| HELL LET LOOSE
https://youtu.be/Di08IMnv2K0

[sweet cliff]

#hll-videos

[next oasis]

Who's Jay

[unkempt storm]

Jays hilarious

[twin rampart]

hello, i'm new i've just bought the game

[sweet cliff]

There's lots of pinned resources in here, what questions do you have

[twin rampart]

but i have alrady esperience with milsims, plus i like to empathize in war action games, and i like military action, i like miltary irl

i dont need anithing now, where i live its a bit late, plus i have to install it and my connection sucks badly, so tomorrow i will give it the first try, but i kinda know i am gonna like it

the best thing i think its to find a team whic i can fit into

[sweet cliff]

#pc-looking-for-unit and #pc-divisions-recruitment

[young summit]

Hey I had a question about building the pak40. I thought that you unlocked it at AT lvl 3 but I have no wrench?

[sweet cliff]

If you're on Xbox I think it's still 6

On PC with U11 it's on 3

[young summit]

Ohhhh gotcha thank you

[sweet cliff]

Do you have the satchel loadout on 3?

[young summit]

Yeah

[sweet cliff]

They're also going to work differently if console uses U10 rules

Medium gun values so they won't get heavies from the front

[young summit]

Thanks dude. Gotta get back to grinding then I guess!

[sweet cliff]

Build those nodes

[dawn widget]

I'm a newb whos trying to practice officer, is this a good call at the start of the game?
"can i get an engineer and a support, engineer spawn on (whatever point has a supply truck) and build nodes (fuel and manpower if tank populated map, manpower and the other node type if not), and the support come with me to build a garry close to the capturing point?"

.
oh and also how do i get access to #mess-hall?

[dawn widget]

i might also note im a pretty defensive officer, i like to focus on building supportive garries and having my team hold our front most friendly points

[humble bobcat]

I just got this game and I've played a few rounds, but I was wondering where you can find the servers where people actually communicate. It seems like every one I join there's no communication at all. Thx

[dawn widget]

This game does have alot of voice chatting but if your officer isn't talking much most other teammates stay quiet. Often your officer is quiet because they are talking in the officer voice chat (which is super active) but it's only available to officers and the commander. You can hold V to use proximity chat, but if you want a talkative team, try being an officer or try breaking the ice yourself. People are quite shy, and it's usually your officers job but they often dont

I think the best thing you can do is get some mates, or get a friend group up. Join a clan, anything to have a locked group of players you know because then you don't have to even break the ice

I like to play public but then find an extroverted guy and stick to them because they break the ice for everyone around them leading to some fun conversations

And also just communicating what you are doing, where you see enemies etc helps break the ice

A bit of banter too

Like when I play medic I like to tell people "don't do it again" and "have some alcohol" just because it's a nice bit of banter and makes them feel less shy

[dawn widget]

And proximity chat is incredibly useful if you are on the front, or need to talk to nearby friendlies. That also helps get more comfortable talking

Generally, if you want an active chat, try being the plattoon officer or break the ice yourself; and as a last resort just get some mates or join a clan

[hollow zenith]

why does exodus kick me for "not having my steam profile" set up

and if thats the case how do I set up my steam profile

[dawn widget]

.

[still vault]

It primarily involves going through several Steam profile things that were probably skipped. Enough to get the Community Member badge or some shit.

[coarse canopy]

Ideally your engineer would wait for commander to spawn a second supply truck so the first can also be used for garrisons. Engineer should always build all three nodes because command can do some resource swapping if desperate. It also maxes their node allowance and makes full use of a supply drop from truck. Yes support to help build a blue garrison, both at start of the game and throughout. But please don’t build garrisons on the strongpoint 🙏

[vale badger]

any aussies in here?

[unkempt storm]

australia is a conspiracy

[hollow zenith]

Damn

I ain't even know

Will try to figure it out

[quiet escarp]

the first supply truck can be used for nodes.

it only costs 50 supplies to build a garrison and a support can drop that.

just take the transport truck for garrison building

[inner garnet]

Got the game last night, played a match or 2, had fun. But everyone on my team didn't speak English, it said NA. What are the best servers to join?

[marsh gorge]

Hello lads I have apretty decent PC im wondering what settings you all use for being able to see more clearly

[still vault]

Do not set Postprocessing Quality to Epic. It applies a global Depth of Field effect.

[marsh gorge]

What would u recommend ?

[still vault]

Medium is the most visible setting.

For Postprocessing.

[marsh gorge]

ok great ill change that is there anything else that stands out. I know a lot of people go community TAA for AA but clarity seems better visually for me

[still vault]

Whatever works for that, I guess.

Experiment if you want.

[marsh gorge]

Thanks bud

[coarse canopy]

If support is co-operating. Otherwise command can take supply truck and get three garrisons sorted within minutes (two supply truck plus one drop). Easy coverage for early game.

Garrisons are more important in the first 5 minutes than nodes and you don’t have to rely on squad leads or support players. Console does not have server browser or clan servers so you’re relying on co-operation between randoms, newbies and veterans. Far better for command to have the first supply truck

[low charm]

I just downloaded the game and I am getting this. I have done the help steps

[sweet cliff]

you've probably launched the public test client

make sure you launch the actual game, not the PTE build

[low charm]

I am so stupid lol

[gentle anchor]

Does anyone know why it takes like 5 seconds to take down a normal garrison but about 20 seconds to take down a Russian one?

[normal pike]

It depends on their placement. An enemy Garrison in the first 400m (2 squares) behind the front line takes the shorter time, and any further back takes longer to remove.

[gentle anchor]

But this was one was in our own territory.

[normal pike]

Interesting. I know there was a bug where enemy garrisons placed in your final row/base would take the longer teardown time, but thought it got fixed....

[gentle anchor]

Sadly not, otherwise that would have been my 3rd garrison taken down :/

[normal pike]

If you get a screenshot and send it to T17 support, they can take a look at it and put it in the priority list 🙂

[gentle anchor]

Alright thanks, I'll do that if I can. Thanks for answering so quickly, appreciate it!

[normal pike]

No problem mate, I usually hit F12 if I find something screwy (usually with a map screenshot too), forget about it, go through my media later and remember. Then I send it in haha.

[unkempt storm]

Ryley, we all know you have a giant red button on your desk that enables a direct communication link to BM headquarters - don’t lie

[sweet cliff]

I imagine it as a combination of the batphone and a red phone on the president's desk

[unkempt storm]

🔴

[still vault]

No, you are not stupid. The desire to play the game led to assuming the stable build was the one that installed first.

Except, it never does.

[sweet cliff]

well it is labeled public testing and does say 'test branch' in big red text on the banner that gets displayed when you select the game, but I agree that it would be nice if it didn't auto install

[unkempt storm]

[sweet cliff]

I wish there was some banner/text/something inside of the client for when people have already launched it without looking

[dawn widget]

Anyone tryna play?

[next lava]

@dawn widget

[dusty sparrow]

Hello! 🙂

I was just about to ask how to get the various console roles... xD

But I got it now!

[shrewd mesa]

Possibly stupid question, watched a couple videos and they've said that you dont have to be in the strong point to capture a sector, thing is they're all a little bit old. Is this still true?

[sweet cliff]

In offensive you only count in the strong point, in warfare you count for 3 in the strong point and 1 in the 4 squares surrounding it

[shrewd mesa]

Warfare is the one when you start with 2 each right?

[sweet cliff]

When you look at the map it's going to be 6 squares wide or tall depending on the map, and you can use that to count and see which squares count

Yes

If you look at maps in #hll-tacmaps you'll see what I mean and be able to tell what squares count and don't counting depending on the objective layout

[shrewd mesa]

So looking at ST Severin Chapel, C5 C6 D5 D6 all help with capping?

[sweet cliff]

Yes that's correct

[shrewd mesa]

Ah thanks a lot, is that really stated anywhere in game?

[sweet cliff]

Same principle holds for all the other points on all the other warfare maps

Probably in the in game field manual

[shrewd mesa]

Kk, appreciate it, have a nice day

[slim fractal]

Imagine if the active cap grids were highlighted. But no, they added shiny garrisons and OPs instead Now that would be a new player friendly addition.

[unkempt storm]

We only tolerate partial hand holding

[twilit mica]

Hey all!
I feel now confident enough to play commander, although I’m still waiting like 3 minutes when the game start to make sure it will be a “better a noob commander than no commander” kind of match… I’ve noticed that the commander is the only class which does not gain any new uniform as it levels up though. Is it intentional, as to make sure one can immediately recognize the commander? Or is it just a WIP?

[gloomy grove]

Nobody knows. Probably WIP

They'll sell some as DLC soon

[unkempt storm]

I’m first in line for commander pack

[signal harness]

commander fashionplay

[storm warren]

Hello ya`all.

Im from LAtin america looking for other latins, or people that dont judge the accent!!! 🙂

[unkempt storm]

Well played

[remote willow]

Hello

[pallid ridge]

how do you play this game lol

[unkempt storm]

#new-recruit-barracks message

[pallid ridge]

are there known fixes to having sound issues?

like i literally can see my teammate firing his gun in front of me but i hear it to the left

[meager mango]

Roughly how long do you guys think it would take to level up a level 4 class to level 8?

[still vault]

Days of playing, unless using the Engineer node level-up.

[meager mango]

With the node assist?

[remote willow]

Any british players? Looking for someone to play with from my server area

[normal pike]

https://tenor.com/view/chernobyl-a35-a-zed-five-press-the-button-gif-14336592

[jade cloak]

Evening all, is there any better way to get into a server with your pals? So far best way seems to be joining a game that's just starting and then hopping in the same faction but it's not an exact science obviously

appreciate any tips as we had a chap who couldn't get swapped tonight not ideal

[sweet cliff]

Either having VIP on a server or joining one with a lower player pop like 40 to 80

If it isn't off time for the region the servers in it should generally fill pretty quickly but also you shouldn't have too hard of a time getting in

[shadow granite]

anybody playing and need 1? pretty new but good aim

[burnt torrent]

holy shit

this is a good game

[pure coral]

This felt like a Movie!!! | HELL LET LOOSE
https://youtu.be/e_6P-KLObRk

This is the game in a movie trailer

[sweet cliff]

#hll-videos

[unkempt storm]

Classic jay

[zenith palm]

gotta say i enjoyed my first match which resulted in me and my sniper back capping the enemy hq uncontested

[uncut jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/impress-based-american-psycho-very-based-impressive-very-based-gif-21665669

[slate sedge]

is it just me or nobody talks in game?

[uncut jasper]

I played two matches tonight, and I didn't hear anybody talk except for one of my squads

[slate sedge]

im just here wandering aimlessly cuz squad lead won't actually lead

[vast summit]

I've played maybe four games so far and I'm hooked

[craggy solstice]

[zenith palm]

gotta say, medic is fun

[autumn rose]

yeah but its a pain to play after lvl 4

the xp gain is abysmal

and you normally just get your jaw kicked in

[manic folio]

hello someone wanna help a guy learn the game? im on pc btw

in cause dm me

[twin hemlock]

Hello, looking to join a HLL group/forum that will accept someone with no experience with the game. Bought it last night so have a lot of learning to do.

[torn prairie]

Have a gander through #pc-divisions-recruitment @twin hemlock

You'll be able to find a group there!

[inland hatch]

Very dependent on the server you join. In my opinion the experience is not enjoyable unless squad members are utilizing mics. Look for servers explicitly stating that squad leads and commander require a mic. These rules are typically enforced in these servers.

Garrisons and Whiskey is one such server.

[silver timber]

Is there cross play between pc and console?

[next oasis]

no

[molten forge]

eyyo whats up!

[final mantle]

I just got this (Xbox). Connection to the server has been lost every time.

[next lava]

@still vault https://discordapp.com/channels/316459644476456962/437154936296570881/960800720259530773
@slim fractal https://discordapp.com/channels/316459644476456962/437154936296570881/960821058796146708
I've wondered about this too, capture sectors/strongpoints can't be purely random if there's only 99 variations, since 3⁵ = 243
— It could be weighted somehow, e.g. to lower the probability of objectives that zigzag across the entire map.

[dawn widget]

Sheeshhhhhh

[buoyant robin]

do I get the game?

[uncut jasper]

I don't know, do you?

[sweet cliff]

If you're asking whether or not people on the official discord for the game are going to recommend you buy it if you're asking, the answer is of course yes.

lots of pinned resources in here if you have questions about the game, or if you have specific questions hit us up.

[slim fractal]

In warfare mode, the points next to each other cant be on the opposite side of the map.

For example after a northemost cap, the next cap cant be the southernmost cap. It only can be two of the closest: the one in the middle and the one directly ahead.

[uncut jasper]

This man has been spared this day

[fast mauve]

where can i change my keybinds on pc?

or atleast view them

nvm found it

[next lava]

As I suspected. So in warfare 99 variations still checks out; but that constraint doesn't hold for offensive mode right? I assume that mode was added later, certainly after that dev briefing.
I have no idea what limit (if any) are on the number of objectives that are allowed on opposing sides of the map, but I've certainly seen it.

[slim fractal]

I don't even recall when offensive came along but yeah, in offensive opposite sides can be a thing

[sweet cliff]

Plus it used to be 2 points per sector.

[next lava]

In offensive mode only? Even then, it's still 3 permutations per sector, thus 3⁵ variations.

[sweet cliff]

Yeah offensive used to be I think it was 1 point for the first objective, then 2 per for the remaining, they changed it back in I want to say U10.

[dawn widget]

Funny hitler SS symbol

[still vault]

Double Assault.

[latent monolith]

Indeed lol. It's fun and you have people on US servers screaming "MEEEDIC"

[vital estuary]

hello im thinking of trying the game. it looks a lot like Squad with WW2 setting but im wondering about a few things - is the game still fun if you dont have a competent squad leader or commander? because in squad the answer to that question is no..

and the other thing i wanted to know - do players need to do the same logistics thing as in squad to succeed?

[vale juniper]

Somewhat yes

Imo i just find a sqaud that has Mics and has a good SL

I dont want to play the running game

[vital estuary]

easier said than done, at least from my experience in squad

its probably a bit easier for NA players but in EU because of the multilingual situation its rough

[vale juniper]

Yeah

I haven't played in the EU I tried I to put on the preferred server to the EU but it never works

But aslong you dont have to play the running game you'll have fun

[vital estuary]

whats the running game? and how do you avoid it

[vale juniper]

So it's a term that when you die and the objective is far away and you just have to run and run to the objective just to be shot again and do it again

[vital estuary]

ah

ye i have that in squad most of the time lol

[vale juniper]

Its different when your a recon squad where you should be running for a long time to get behind their lines and disrupt their artillery

But a competent commander and some SL the game is fun with no running forever

Sometime I would become a SL and then I don't have to worry about a stupid SL

But limits your ability to level up other roles but its pros and cons

[vital estuary]

i kinda want to try it but im worried its too much like squad, which i dont want to experience again lol

[vale juniper]

I never played squad so I cant really help with that

But I'd wait for like a summer sale

A update would be coming around summer

[vital estuary]

theres keys for sale on legit key sites for like $21

[vale juniper]

Yeah

[vital estuary]

it looks like all guns have irons except for the few sniper rifles?

[sweet cliff]

That's correct the only not iron sights in the game are the up to 2 snipers per team, 1 per recon squad.

[vital estuary]

nice i like that

[unkempt storm]

i like that

[vital estuary]

it seems the whole logistics system is identical to Squad. like the officer makes FOB, some players have to drive Logi trucks to bring supplies and unless you team has competent leaders youre gonna be having a bad day

bleh dont think i want to get into it again 😢

[signal harness]

The logistics are much simpler than squad. You do not need to resupply at all

[sweet cliff]

So you can get supplies from within the squad, support class, air drop from the commander, or the truck.

[vital estuary]

oh really?

[sweet cliff]

You also can have different classes drop ammo, but you get fresh ammo when you die.

[vital estuary]

i dont know why they did it like that. its not fun, but unless you have a few players literally just driving logi trucks back and forth, youre gonna lose... so how does it work in HLL?

[signal harness]

There is no FOB either. Just garrisons (think HAB) and outposts

[autumn rose]

the ammo system is kinda dumb

its so niche, that its just worthless

since its easier to respawn nearly 100% of the time

and classes get hundreds upon hundreds of rounds

the MG42 class gets like 1200 rounds in 1 life

so resupplying ammo is almost always worthless

[signal harness]

Yeah I would prefer something closer to squads ammo system

[next oasis]

Bullets too strong and accurate to ever need to consider ammo management.

Squads system would be absolutely terrible for hll

[vital estuary]

squad 🤢

[next oasis]

Squad is anti fun in many of its systems. Deliberately so

[autumn rose]

I mean

when your average class has above 200 rounds of ammo

you will almost never

ever

run out in combat

[vital estuary]

also squad giving half the players x4 scopes and half the players x1 scopes... have fun getting shot by 1 pixel from 300 meters away

[signal harness]

Squad definitely has its own problems

[vital estuary]

im going to give HLL a shot, ill go buy it now. it seems similar to Squad in maaaaany of its core systems, but it also sounds like it might be more fun because of some of the small changes

[next oasis]

Because bullets are so damn strong and accurate. People know this and act accordingly. They don't "waste" ammo because the effect per ONE bullet is devastating.

[signal harness]

On the whole HLL is simpler than Squad when it comes to those mechanics though. Its much easier to build spawns and respawn as a player

[next oasis]

Complicating the ammo system in attempt to make people even more stingy with their ammo will change literally nothing about hll. Petty ammo management systems should be entirely avoided.

[vital estuary]

how's the gunplay feel in HLL btw? its hard to know from watching videos without playing it yourself

[signal harness]

Eh

[next oasis]

Squads ammo management is just so brazenly bad

[signal harness]

I mean it doesn't have the scopes vs no scopes issue you pointed iut

[vital estuary]

yea thats not what i mean

i mean - sounds, animation, recoil, accuracy, how does this feel when combined?

[next oasis]

It is more point n click than any other multiplayer fps you've ever played.

[signal harness]

Gunplay is not very dynamic.

Current loadouts also tend to favor automatics so don't execpt the WWII mostly rifle experience

[next oasis]

It does not demand any more exactness or "good" aim beyond just hitting the target anywhere.
Hitboxes are incredibly simplistic.

[sweet cliff]

I like the sounds but it's a controversial topic, they updated some of them in the last update in December.

[vital estuary]

maybe i didnt ask it right

some games have guns that all feel great to shoot, like COD Warzone

on the other hand theres games like Counter Strike

and 1000 games in between