new-recruit-barracks

[cinder sonnet]

i guess the wiki has em them?

thanks

[jade sigil]

Yep...

[sonic oracle]

would be cool if the alternate tanker hats had the radio headsets as well

[deft trail]

What good is hat if you cannot stick head out of hatch for snipers to marvel at

Let me yolo swag, @dawn widget

[sweet cliff]

@dawn widget ^ spam

[vagrant furnace]

Know what to do

[patent merlin]

hey i just bought hell let loose can anybody kinda teach me the basics ive never played a realistic shooter like this

[grave dawn]

#new-recruit-barracks message

[patent merlin]

ah ok thx

[grave dawn]

that's a good place to start

[glad pasture]

You will also find numerous other instructional videos on all the HLL in-game roles here: #hll-guides

[warm jacinth]

Where do you shoot a t34 as a PZ4? Ive never wrapped my head around it since I see shots deflect the front plate

[main bough]

I think turrets, tracks and rear.

[warm jacinth]

so the only way to damage it with a medium to the front is a shot to the turret? Usually when shooting the turret is only really disables it first and then it starts to do damage to the hull from my experience

[main bough]

I personally don't know since I don't tank. I've just heard the folks yelling to hit in those locations. Rear though is best against all.

[gloomy grove]

You can pen the T34 from the front with a PzIV

Just don't be angled too much

[warm jacinth]

ah so Im just incredibly unlucky, or lucky depending on how you see it, to see it get deflected everytime then. Thanks for the info

[gloomy grove]

Yeah, I believe so. It's anywhere between 45-90 degrees of the top of my head. If it's over that you're best just penning the side anyway

[main bough]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s4dbT5Pi0s

These were all to be implemented in previous Update 10. 😉

[livid jacinth]

How does the current tank damage system work?

I was running Soviet at the other day and couldn’t figure out where I should be aiming

[main bough]

Watch video above.

[livid jacinth]

Is that how it works now?

[main bough]

Should be.

[gloomy grove]

https://theline.gg/tankbible

[pseudo fulcrum]

anyone run this on a gtx 1650 ?

[glad pasture]

System Requirements

Minimum:
    Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
    OS: Windows10 64bit
    Processor: Intel Core i5-6600/AMD Ryzen 3 1300X
    Memory: 12 GB RAM
    Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 4GB/AMD Radeon R9 380 4GB
    DirectX: Version 11
    Network: Broadband Internet connection
    Storage: 30 GB available space

Install on an M2 or SSD

[vast sentinel]

@pseudo fulcrum it will run fine

Won't look the best

[livid jacinth]

Idk man I get pretty frequent fps dips with my 5800x 6600xt build

I do run everything on high tho

[autumn rose]

Minimum system req for memory is 12GB?

what a wacky number

[still vault]

Magical 2x6GB stick setups or 3x4GB.

[autumn rose]

Where can you find 2 6GB sticks

I've never seen a 6GB stick

3x4GB is a cursed set up

Or a 8gb and a 4gb

[deft trail]

3x4 is still better than 2x6

[oblique wraith]

Question. You can build 8 garrisons in a round right? If the other team destroys a garrison can it be rebuilt or does that mean its lost for the rest of the round

[deft trail]

Think they lowered it to 6

And thats the maximum amount you can have up at any given time, as long as you have the supplies in proximity to build/rebuild

[oblique wraith]

Oh ok so if one gets destroyed it’s not like you only 5 left for the round

[deft trail]

You can have up to 6. If one gets taken down you can build another in its place or wherever there is supplies

[oblique wraith]

Gotcha.

And unlimited outposts?

Or is that one at a time per squad

[deft trail]

Outposts are per squad leader and you can only have one up per squad at any given time

[sweet cliff]

It's 8 max.

[deft trail]

You can place outpost over and over again as long as the cooldown is done

[oblique wraith]

Appreciate it bud. Starting to get a feel for the game but I’ve only had it for like 4 days. Only have a few rounds under my belt

[sweet cliff]

The team can have a maximum of 8 garrisons, one OP per squad (new OP replaces the old OP, the commander and armor squads do not get an OP) and 3 half tracks.

[oblique wraith]

5 min cooldown?

[deft trail]

Ye

[sweet cliff]

5 minute cool down for what?

[deft trail]

Op

[oblique wraith]

Yea op

[sweet cliff]

2 minutes.

[oblique wraith]

The nodes are the most confusing aspect for me thus far. More in terms of where the best place to build them strategically

[sweet cliff]

So there's two ways you can do nodes, they generate +10 resources/minute regardless of where you place it on the map (in previous updates they used to generate more the further towards the enemy HQ they were but that isn't a thing anymore)

[oblique wraith]

I see most teams@build right at the border of the second/third grid

[deft trail]

Build them at the sector line in the home sector, for longevity

[sweet cliff]

Manpower nodes will also make the supply box a support player can drop (5 minute cool down) turn into a 2.5 minute cool down if they enter the yellow circle surrounding a manpower node.

A munitions node does the same for ammo boxes.

[oblique wraith]

Is it smart to build another set on your second strong point too, and then fortify that using the cooldown perks

[sweet cliff]

So you either build them all the way back in the HQ sectors (first two grids) or have them somewhere closer to the front so that people can use the cool downs, but they get instantly destroyed if you lose the territory they're in.

[deft trail]

Grab a supply truck, druve across the first sector line, and immediately drop , then go back behind line and builld

[sweet cliff]

So they're much safer back in the HQ rows, you can also not drop supplies (in warfare) in those rows, but you can drive a truck to just barely over the line into the 3rd and drop a supply box and build them back because supplies reach 50 meters.

[deft trail]

Its not necessarily safer, but itll be around even when you lose two sector

[sweet cliff]

That's what safer means in this context, you're only losing them due to territory loss if you already lost the match.

[oblique wraith]

It feels like early in the fight most of the fighting is obviously for the strong point in the middle of the map. So to me it makes sense to try and get the cool down perks and then just have your engineers and support guys just build up and fortify the hell out of the strongpoint in the second sector so you’ll have a super secure fallback position

[sweet cliff]

Well if you build them literally in the HQ areas people can deploy back there if they want the cool down perks, but most people don't really use the cool downs.

[oblique wraith]

Is that a flawed theory?

[deft trail]

Fortifications can work against you

[oblique wraith]

I thought there was a penalty if you build nodes too close to HQ?

[deft trail]

Just know how capable your team is before building forts

[sweet cliff]

No there's no penalty.

In previous updates they would generate +0/min in HQ rows/columns.

[deft trail]

Nah, they changed it , nodes give same values anywhere now

[oblique wraith]

Just a resource boost the deeper you build the nodes

[sweet cliff]

It's +10/minute no matter where they're built now (you can only build in friendly territory).

[oblique wraith]

Oh really? I guess I’m watching outdated YouTube videos then

[deft trail]

Ye

[sweet cliff]

They changed it in Update 10, so anything before 20 July 2021 is out dated specifically for that.

[deft trail]

Wish more people asked questions

[sweet cliff]

U9 -> U10 was kind of a dramatic change for resources and some other stuff.

[oblique wraith]

Oh so do teams just typically stack them in every grid in the first sector just to get them up and maximize resources

[sweet cliff]

We're on U11 for reference (7 Dec 21)

[deft trail]

Still got squad leaders who dont know if there is a commander

[sweet cliff]

A lot of times they start going down immediately in the HQ yeah.

[oblique wraith]

There’s so much to learn with this game

[deft trail]

There isnt

[sweet cliff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hellletloose/comments/q23r8m/_/ take a peek at the new players guide

I don't think they have a U11 version yet but there wasn't too many changes that affect that I think.

[oblique wraith]

Lol for newbs it definitely gets a bit overwhelming at first. It’s all starting to come together for me though after like 8 hrs of gameplay haha

Thanks again guys. I wanna start experimenting with different roles i just don’t wanna screw the team@over by building or dropping supplies like an idiot in bad spots

[sweet cliff]

If you play as the support player and work with the squad and/or rest of the team you can get a lot of stuff done, just be prepared to redeploy out of the role if your box is on cool down and the SL needs supplies.

[oblique wraith]

That makes sense. Support/engineer feels like the initial 5 minutes are crucial

[deft trail]

You shouldnt have to, if you do. You got bad team

The amount of supplies available you should never be short of supplies

Between commander drops, and supply truck

[sweet cliff]

Yeah the longer nodes are up the more resources they'll generate for the match, obviously, so they pay off more the earlier you get them down.

[oblique wraith]

Aight I feel confident enough to start experimenting with engineer now

[sweet cliff]

So just be aware that you do have a limit on each thing you can build (you'll see it in the build menu, how many you've built, how many max) and if you exceed that build limit it's going to start replacing old ones you've put down.

Same with mines and such.

but as noted, fortifications can work against you in warfare because you might need to recap a point, but they can also be very helpful.

[oblique wraith]

Yea so you might end up just wasting time making a strongpoint super strong for the other team by accident

But that’s sort of an expecting to fail attitude lol

[deft trail]

Just build enough for you to take cover

Dont waste too much time

[sweet cliff]

It's mostly things like barbed wire, don't be fortifying your side of the point for instance (where you would be coming from if you lost the point and had to come from your next point)

[oblique wraith]

Aight cause i was in a round earlier that we won, but they had a few engineers build up a fallback point that looked like a damn castle

[oblique wraith]

Yea always make everything facing the other teams frontline

[sweet cliff]

Fortifications make more sense on offensive, but they can be really clutch on warfare, like Kursk for instance barricades make a huge difference.

[deft trail]

You really want to help the team win, play arty or learn to tank

[oblique wraith]

Artillery is super dependent on people pinging positions right?

[deft trail]

Nah

[oblique wraith]

Otherwise you’re blind?

[deft trail]

Learn map

For example.

[oblique wraith]

I guess if you do the math you can guestimate pretty accurately. Each grid is a 200 m square?

[sweet cliff]

There are calculators that will give you the exact mil distance to a target, but there is a 20 meter CEP.

[oblique wraith]

Cep?

[sweet cliff]

oh sorry, it's going to hit in a 20 meter radius.

Somewhere in that 20 meter radius from where you're aiming, could be dead on could be 20 meters in any direction, or anywhere in that circle.

But yes each grid is 200x200m

[deft trail]

You look at map and see that your bluerries are pushing an ovjective but they are stuck at a certain line.

That line represents the front line. You offset that line by at least 50 meters and look fir ideal cover, then shell that cover

[oblique wraith]

Aaah so you have to account for error cause the arty isn’t 100% accurate. Gotcha

[sweet cliff]

If you're blind firing artillery you have to account for shell travel time, it's fixed regardless of distance, I think 24ish seconds?

[oblique wraith]

That makes a lot of sense

[sweet cliff]

So that area that you were shooting at a second ago that was empty of teammates (taking that 20 meter dispersion into account) might be full of friendlies by the time the shell splashes.

[deft trail]

Artillery can also provide smoke cover which is just as good

[oblique wraith]

Takes 2 people to operate arty? Or can one guy do it slowly

[sweet cliff]

You can do it yourself you just swap seats.

You can start swapping part of the way through the reload and have it synced up so the shell is in before you swap seats, so you can do it faster.

[oblique wraith]

Which you can do quickly with the F1 F2 keys?

[sweet cliff]

It's a lot faster if you do it with a 2nd person.

[deft trail]

Relatively quick

[sweet cliff]

Yeah you just swap around, the loader loads obviously, but also makes faster left/right adjustments, the gunner does up/down and can rotate the gun more precisely but it slower and has a max amount it can turn left/right.

You can get a lot of kills with artillery, which can be good but it costs munitions, so it isn't always worth it, either you should be doing something like shelling defensively to keep enemies from being able to travel to attack you, or offensively to keep them from pushing from their spawns to where they're trying to defend.

Depends on the map, a map like Purple Heart Lane is very choke pointy and you can pick very specific spots (like a bridge) and absolutely shut down pushes with it.

[oblique wraith]

Arty knocks out op’s and garrys too?

[sweet cliff]

OPs yes garrys no

(I'm pretty sure it destroys OPs I forget)

[deft trail]

Artillery is a slow process, therell be downtime when you shouldnt be firing

[sweet cliff]

But in and of it self killing just to kill doesn't always help the team enough to justify the munitions cost, kills need to support some objective (defending a spawn, helping destroy an enemy spawn, etc.)

[deft trail]

If you continuously fire, your just wasting

[oblique wraith]

Yea otherwise you’re just burning resources like a shit head

[sweet cliff]

Essentially the game boils down to build more, and better spawns than the enemy, and destroy their spawns.

You cap points by having more cap weight (bodies) in the cap zones than the enemy, and you defend points the same way.

You need your spawns so your team has more uptime, and you need to destroy their spawns to reduce the enemy teams putime.

[deft trail]

Time your arty to make it count, dont arty enemy strong point if no one is attacking

[oblique wraith]

So where in your guys opinion are the best positions for@spawns? Garrys and halftracks specifically

[sweet cliff]

It's a fixed 2 minutes (in warfare) to cap a sector, you have to have more bodies to cap, and it doesn't cap any faster by having more bodies.

Obviously blue zone garrisons are superior to red zones because they only lock at 15 meters, not 100meters.

So defensively, having a sort of triangle set up around your strong point for garrisons is good, because travel time from any one garrison to the strong point isn't that long.

Building garrisons directly on the strong point is buffoonery (ignoring some edge case stuff like a point that is on map edge with nowhere better to build it) because you're guaranteed to have enemies milling about in the area and they're going to find it immediately.

[oblique wraith]

And it keeps the enemy from targeting one garry and shutting you down cause you can bounce around

[sweet cliff]

Try not to build garrisons that are going to block better garrisons, like a red zone garrison 50 meters into the red is dumb because it's always going to be locked and it's also going to prevent you from building better ones because of the 200 meter blockage.

[oblique wraith]

Ops should go in strong points or just outside, garrisons should be a bit further back

[sweet cliff]

2 or 3 garrisons around a point provides you much better sustainment, if you build a single one on the point it's going to get destroyed and you're not going to have any backup ones close because of the 200 meters.

[oblique wraith]

Excellent point

[sweet cliff]

Garrisons are sturdier than OPs but the spawns are slower (remember that uptime is important) so you want your garrisons a bit further back typically from where you're fighting so they aren't getting destroyed, and OPs (especially because they're free) should be closer.

Especially if you build a red zone garrison since it locks at 100m, you want that further back, and SLs can push off the (hopefully unlocked) red zone garrison and get OPs up closer.

[oblique wraith]

So really the main tactics of this game is organization of spawn points just to blitz the enemy with manpower

[sweet cliff]

It's not really blitzing them with manpower per se, it's having more average uptime than them because your spawns are better so when your guys get killed they can come back quicker.

Since you need more cap weight than them.

[oblique wraith]

And when you say red zone you’re referring to enemy territory right?

[sweet cliff]

If I kill you and you have to travel 200 meters to get back to where you need to be and you're on a 40 second spawn timer, and you kill me and I'm on a 20 second spawn timer and have to travel 50 meters, I'm spending way more time in that area than you are even if we kill each other at an even rate.

Yes red zone = enemy territory, blue zone = friendly.

So you'll hear people say red zone or blue zone garrisons.

[oblique wraith]

Gotcha. This is all super helpful dude

Definitely makes me feel like i could slip into a SL role without hurting the team now

[sweet cliff]

People die a lot, so you have a lot of turnover, people dying, respawning, dying, respawning, etc. so spawns are super important, if you have no spawns you're going to get attritted down and start losing the sector because of insufficient cap weight.

If you pull pull up the map at the start of a warfare round and you have 0 garrisons (or even just one) for the team to be attacking from, it shouldn't be a huge surprise when you either lose the middle, or cap the middle but then immediately start losing it.

[sage zephyr]

as long as you build OPs and communicate, you do more good than harm

[sweet cliff]

So you should eventually get to the point where you're able to pull up the map, look at the different objectives, look at your spawns and be able to decide where you should be getting more garrisons up to both put pressure on the enemy but also sustain, and defense is almost all of the time way more important than offense because anytime you lose a sector you just lost (except recon OPs) all of those spawns.

[oblique wraith]

Any decent commander should be able to guide you where to@build all@this?

[sweet cliff]

So spending 5 extra minutes defending your current point instead of attacking (especially if you're already ahead) is incredibly valuable because if you lose that point you just lost everything you would have been attacking with anyway.

So when you're looking at the map to decide where you want to build a garrison you want to look at where your current garrisons are (have to be 200m away), but then when you look at a potential spot, look at a 200m circle around that, would that be blocking a different/better one?

Is it relatively close to where we want people to be? i.e. our defensive point, sometimes building attacking garrisons is bad because people have an inclination to prioritize attacking over defending

If it's say the last 20 minutes of warfare and you hold 4 of the 5 points, and you care about winning you should buckle down and defend.

[oblique wraith]

Makes sense. Is noodle arms your steam account? Def wanna add you and see if we can squad up at some point now

[sweet cliff]

oh I'm somewhere with really poor internet right now for work so I unfortunately can't play at the moment.

[oblique wraith]

Same, I just meant in the near future

Either way that was way more helpful than a lot of the YouTube stuff I’ve been watching

[sweet cliff]

But a lot of this stuff is pretty opinion based as to what the best thing to do is, or the best place to put stuff.

[oblique wraith]

Yea I’m sure I’ll form my own theories on strategy too the longer i play. This is definitely giving me a good foundation tho

[sweet cliff]

Someone earlier said if you're playing SL and you're keeping your OPs up you're doing just fine and that's true, and not every SL needs to build garrisons all the time (can only have 8 after all) but every SL should be keeping an eye on that and contributing.

[oblique wraith]

And it’s good to hear other peoples general thoughts on strategy. It’ll help me find and destroy enemy op’s and garrys now too cause i have an understanding on where to look

[sweet cliff]

It makes you weary when you're the only person on the team doing the logistical burden of building garrisons when everyone should be contributing.

So here's a tip, if you find one garrison make a mental (or drop an actual mark on the map if you're an SL) and now you know there's a pretty high chance that there's another garrison 200 meters out from that one, or a little bit past 200 meters.

[oblique wraith]

Well i think a lot of people lack comprehension of the game tbh

[sweet cliff]

and you can look at the map and start narrowing it down, it's probably not in the middle of an open field, it's obviously not off the edge of the map, etc.

[oblique wraith]

Good officers really make or break a team

[sweet cliff]

it's probably not way off in the middle of nowhere near the action, etc. so you can use all of those hints and have a pretty good idea where the next place you should look for an enemy garrison is.

And then the enemy team loses 2 garrisons in 5 minutes or whatever and immediately starts accusing the other team of stream sniping or whatever because people don't realize just how easy it is to find garrisons, especially once you've already found one.

[oblique wraith]

I think it’s hard just getting to them even if you can find them

Plus only AT’s or engineers can destroy them right

[sweet cliff]

No anyone can destroy a garrison.

In unlocked (all of your territory, and the current sector you can attack [i.e. 400 meters into enemy territory]) an enemy garrison only takes a couple of seconds to disassemble by holding F.

You can also destroy them with satchels or tank explosions

In locked territory (401+ meters into enemy territory) it takes something like 30 seconds.

[oblique wraith]

Oh I didn’t realize that. I thought it was only explosives

[sweet cliff]

Nah anyone can, it's just a time thing where explosives make it much quicker.

[oblique wraith]

Makes sense. I can’t wait to get online now

[sweet cliff]

You can also find VODs of competitive HLL, which a lot of tactics aren't going to translate back to public games that well because they take too much coordination, or aren't fun, but you can surely learn some stuff like good garrison places.

in fact the HLL seasonal starts soon I think.

Plus they record them from the admin cam view which gives you a cool view of the map and what's going on.

[oblique wraith]

It’d be cool just to see like a tactical map of@gameplay and hear a team@communicating so I could get the big@picture

Is there spectating mode in HLL servers?

[sweet cliff]

No

[oblique wraith]

Sounds like the admin cam is similar to that tho

[sweet cliff]

so the esteemed @analog rover does a lot of casting of competitive HLL so that's probably a good place to start: https://www.youtube.com/user/DasAltberg

It is, but you have to be an admin on the server.

[sage zephyr]

here's the website for HLL seasonals https://hllseasonal.com/

[oblique wraith]

Lol you guys are awesome

[analog rover]

I was summoned 👀

[oblique wraith]

Lmfao! Right on schedule

[sweet cliff]

Maybe Mr. Altberg has a particularly favorite match or something you could start off with 😉

[analog rover]

scrolls up a bit

[oblique wraith]

Lol lot of catching up to there Das

To do*

[analog rover]

eeeh if you want to see how it looks when two high-skilled teams clash, theres the WTH vs CORE VOD (last vid).
They also played the Fall/Autumn finals before.

[sweet cliff]

are CoRe the current top team worldwide? Those dudes are scary.

[analog rover]

eh spicy topic, think its still a shared with WTH and CORE

[oblique wraith]

That’s gotta be super high level. Thats on your channel das? I’ll def check it out

[analog rover]

then again, we also saw others win against either of those teams

yeh, last video was WTH vs CORE

[oblique wraith]

I’m gonna be watching that as soon as i get off discord

[analog rover]

theres also the OC/ESPT vs StDb match, which was fun 16 days ago.
OC/DC vs UFr was a bit quick. and if not, theres always the "Highlights" section. that french match FIVE vs UFr has amazing last 18 minutes 😄

if its about rushing the point and tactics, 82AD/DC vs WTH (highlight) is great..last 17 minutes of the round

[sweet cliff]

Plus the admin cam view is just so cool it's awesome to be able to see matches play out from that perspective compared to FPS.

[oblique wraith]

I’m just eager to pick up foundational strategies and like beginning battle tactics to help set up the team ya know

[analog rover]

yeh admincam should be included in all those VODs

[sweet cliff]

So just remember though, those are all really good teams practicing excellent team work and stuff, some stuff is going to translate back, but some stuff just isn't going to work when playing with random public players.

[oblique wraith]

That’s gonna be a game changer

[sweet cliff]

They also do goofy (from the perspective of having fun, rather than winning) stuff like running a bunch of small squads so people can rotate through different OPs as needed.

Things that you aren't really going to be doing if you're playing with friends.

[oblique wraith]

Well even if its just spawn points. Cause you can’t expect high level coordination on public servers. Too many idiots running around without mics and ignoring directions

[sweet cliff]

If you're looking for one tip to make you win more public games of HLL, well I guess two tips, it's focus on building/maintaining defensive garrisons, and know when you should defend, you will see teams commit to cap races that they cannot win every damn game every damn day and multiple times even per round.

If you are already losing your point and you haven't even started capping, and you still think you should continue to attack, you should take a good long think about your life.

[oblique wraith]

Hahaha wisdom

[mortal fjord]

I have a question can i play with my friend who is on xbox but i am on pc ?

[sweet cliff]

There is no PC to console cross play, there is Xbox -> PS cross play.

They haven't announced any plans to add it either.

[mortal fjord]

Really ? Damn..

[sweet cliff]

(you realistically probably don't want it either), mouse and keyboard people are going to dunk on controllers.

Also the PC and console versions are on different updates at the moment.

[mortal fjord]

yeah but im disgusted that i can't

i already search the question on internet but probably got a false response

so yesterday i buy a steam key of the game but i can't get a refund so im disgusted

[sweet cliff]

How come you can't get a refund?

[slim fractal]

You bought a Steam key because you thought there was a crossplay with consoles?

[mortal fjord]

yup to play with my brother

[slim fractal]

Yes but why

Where in the store page or the official pages you saw it being mentioned crossplay with pc & consoles?

[mortal fjord]

i didn't search too much so i think i see some fake news

that's just all my bad

im just disgusted of that but im gonna try to play the game i already play little and it's very cool but im very sad about this

i hope im gonna enjoy the game as much as if i played it with my brother

[peak veldt]

You’ll make new friends

[dawn widget]

We are your family now... or you could get your little brother a GeForce Now subscription

[deft trail]

throws beer bottle at wall
“He aint no brother of mine!”

[warm copper]

👋

[sweet cliff]

👋

[indigo fulcrum]

Gonna be playing for the first time. Any advice on how to not be a nuisance to my team?

[next oasis]

Never shoot enemy
Never go to active objectives

[tough kelp]

Don't continue to push locked objectives...

[dawn widget]

Don't take the covered truck until you know what it does. After you've learned what it does, don't shoot someone who has taken the covered truck

[sweet cliff]

Ignore Chum. Read the new players guide: https://www.reddit.com/r/hellletloose/comments/q23r8m/_/

[indigo fulcrum]

Thanks, y'all.

[glad pasture]

Watch this first: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HQ6JXgIROw

[deft trail]

This is premium advice

[tawdry hatch]

is the 2nd tier of machine gunner really better than the unlocked 1st tier?

[sweet cliff]

Depends on how you feel, the MG42 is nice, the BAR is kind of meh for the MG role if you intend to use it to sit back and shoot at stuff.

[tawdry hatch]

Anyone else?

[next oasis]

They are functionally identical in everything but # of rounds before needing to reload. (MG34 vs 42)

Beyond that, they look and sound different to eachother, so that's something, right?

[sweet cliff]

ROF is higher which makes a difference if you're trying to shoot through something you can't see.

[next oasis]

🥱

not this again

[rancid steeple]

[nimble furnace]

Is it 50 or 100 supplies for a garrison, in the red zones? First 2 red squares into the red.

[sweet cliff]

100, blue zone garrys are 50.

100 meter lockout for red zone garrisons vs I believe the 15? for blue.

[nimble furnace]

I tried dropping more supplies for it to be 100 but the 50 I dropped disappeared! And I was left with only 50. 🤨

Weird

[sweet cliff]

That's intended behavior, you're only able to drop 1 supply box at a time, any new one you drop replace the old ones.

Meaning the only way to build a red zone garrison is with two separate support people (you can rotate roles within the squad) an air drop or a truck.

[deft trail]

My immersion!

[simple elk]

So once I complete BCT when can I change from recruit to Pvt?

[dawn widget]

In here? No. Ranks are more Animal Farm than the military, and you're late to the revolution.

[nimble furnace]

Spoken like a true Commie.

[dawn widget]

[ornate canopy]

anyone want to play with me

[uncut jasper]

There are three separate feedback channels, entirely self-contained

[uncut jasper]

Pretty much. What's funny is that all three feedback channels seem to have the same criticisms after a certain point, anyway.

[tawdry hatch]

IMO reddit post feedbacks with upvotes carry more weight than discord

[uncut jasper]

Now you're asking the questions we've been asking for a while

[glad pasture]

Feedback from all members in the three individual / separate channels is checked daily by both the development teams in Black Matter / Team17. It is compiled and uploaded to a master spreadsheet for comparison purposes by the programmers.

[sweet cliff]

There's also a big difference between reading feedback and agreeing with the conclusions, and then of the subset of feedback that is agreed with has to get worked into the pipeline and there's plenty of in work stuff on the 2022 roadmap

is the new member feedback channel pretty busy? Ours is typically a couple of posts a day

ignoring extra stuff that gets threaded off

[glad pasture]

I’ve been here since Kick-starter back in 2017 Testing on both ALPHA / BETA phases of HLL up to release, and NO its not B.S. I can assure you.

[sweet cliff]

I can definitely state that feedback that has been publicly provided such as improving the driving characteristics of the Pz IV during the PTEs for U11 was implemented.

We've complained about how the medium Sherman drives and they did some stuff with that for the P17 PTE.

To put it nicely, a lot of people have some questionable ideas as to what changes should be implemented.

I think they're mostly radio silent on the stuff because publicly acknowledging things, even if you don't state things will definitvely be done, or are in work, etc. get turned into 'promises' and people lose their minds when their pet isue isn't addressed.

I think maybe your feedback channel is mildly less productive than our feedback channel because I generally speaking wouldn't agree with that assessment.

We do get our fair share of garbage though.

We get 4 reactions, a thumbs up thumbs down, a thinking face and a commendation reaction (which seems redundant), I think the rest are locked out

Sounds like your feedback channel is a bit of a dumpster fire to be honest.

I vote an oppressive crackdown, people can go meme and do dumb stuff elsewhere.

Yeah that place looks awful, they should start hammering people.

Ours is nothing like that.

[deft trail]

Some poor guy/gal has to read all those feedbacks 🤣

My stomach churns just glancing past a few

[slim fractal]

Yeah, I don't know why mods don't clean it up. They cleaned up the main #pc-feedback: 6 hour slowmode with restricted bot-given emojis only. Which new players are not allowed - don't ask me why, the segregation policy in this Discord is ridiclous. Plus there are threads enabled so the petty arguments can be had inside the threads without flooding the feedback channel

Regardless what they say about "your feedback is valuable to us, we read it", they really don't.

[dawn widget]

🚨 Threads should be added to the other two feedback channels 🚨

🧵 👏

[slim fractal]

Or they should just get rid of this segregation policy. If they are afraid of something, they should just kick the old players then

[gloomy grove]

Any player with a KS backer role should be kicked imo

[slim fractal]

Couldn't agree more.

[dawn widget]

Hey everyone I decided to jump into the game. Would there be anyone from the UK wanting to play a match now and would be cool with me joining etc?

[sweet cliff]

There's at least a couple UKcommunity servers I know of, Powerbits runs a few servers and there's also Exodus

If you haven't given the new players guide a read and you haven't played before I'd give it a quick read, won't take long but it'll help you a ton: https://www.reddit.com/r/hellletloose/comments/q23r8m/_/

[dawn widget]

Hero! Ill give the guide a read then jump on one of them servers

[sweet cliff]

Yeah that should help you get a really good baseline for the two different game modes, how spawns work, etc. and hit us with any questions you have.

A lot of people are friendly and should give you a break if you let them know you're new (they'll also be able to figure it out from your player level) but if you do run into rude and/or unhelpful players don't be afraid to squad hop.

[glacial prism]

downloaded the game today, and damn if it’s not beginner friendly… but i like it a lot, already read the guide NoodleArms provided
anyone knows someone who’s in need of a player? need to explain a lot to me and give me guidance, need to learn how to play this amazing game

[glad pasture]

@glacial prism @dawn widget Worth watching this video guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HQ6JXgIROw

[glacial prism]

already did, twice

[warm veldt]

the devs from what i can tell never move people out of the "new member" area so i guess you never become an "old member" and the only thing that matters is when you joined the discord, not when you started supporting the game. if you leave the discord after having the "old member" roles, after rejoining you are now a "new member." it's synonymous with the approach to feedback - not giving a shit and never absorbing feedback regardless of your roles.

[slim fractal]

Sounds about right.

[sweet cliff]

I'm pretty sure if you've left and come back they will put you back to what you were if you ask.

[heavy belfry]

well time to say bye for now 😭

school got hella busy don't want to get distracted

[gloomy grove]

Can confirm, though I didn't leave by choice

[unkempt storm]

[turbid onyx]

I started in December. Was really tricky for the first 20 hours or so but when I started to learn more and more I got alot better at the game. Big thing for me was learning how to flank the enemy. Also make sure to play the right roles. Rifleman, auto rifleman and medic( assualt for the germans is wpuld be good too )are what you should stick with until you improve.

Was playing as SL earlier. Couldn't play the whole match but did get a garry down , spotted a tank for my team and got my ops down. I found I managed leading ok but I found it tricky to lead and fight. Any tips for being able to do both well at the same time?

[cinder sonnet]

i dunno what kind of leading you're expecting

you're not really giving grand commands, just gotta figure out where to go and what to hold

and placing markers ofc

[abstract orbit]

I don’t play hell let lose but I’m gonna get it

[nimble furnace]

Should do, it’s brilliant 🤩

[winged dove]

so where do you enter into the battle coms?

[sweet cliff]

How do you mean? In game you can use (default key binds) C for squad voice chat, V for proximity voice chat and X for command voice chat (if you're an SL)

and I forget the text chat key bindings but you can look them up in the key bindings in the options.

[fallen forge]

He may be console

[sweet cliff]

Oh good point, what I said was for PC obviously.

[winged dove]

pc

I cant seem to get my STEAM going

[sweet cliff]

So you can't even launch the game?

[winged dove]

nope

steam was updating and now zip

[sweet cliff]

I'd try restarting your computer.

I think sometimes Steam has some background processes running and it causes issues if those aren't all closed down cleanly.

[winged dove]

i got it had to kick it via task mgr

[sweet cliff]

Excellent.

[winged dove]

gg.tfk ?

[vagrant junco]

Ring a ding ding Jannie

[dry radish]

Maybe feedback is better left to the Reddit or players participating in the PTE

[storm parcel]

ive got just below recommended with a 1050 ti 12gb of ram and an i7 is this ok to run the game fine

[sweet cliff]

If you meet the minimum specs and want to buy the game you can buy it, set your graphics settings to whatever your minimum desired level that you're happy with are and hop on a server (I'd recommend Stalingrad) and see if you get the performance you like, you can always refund if you don't go past the 2 hour window or whatever it is (double check that).

[storm parcel]

thankyou

[unkempt storm]

I had a i5 and 960, you’ll be fine

[storm parcel]

my game keeps crashing every time i go to start it

re validating the files seems to have made it have a fit in steam library

got it working

was missing a file

[proud bane]

at which point to ap or at mines despawn?

[tall orchid]

if you place a mine that causes you to exceed your max, the oldest one will be removed

[nimble furnace]

What about supplies that support drops, do they also disappear? I haven’t noticed them disappearing, only when a section is lost.🤔

[sweet cliff]

The box persists forever until it's used, disassembled by an enemy blown up or you drop another which replaces your old one

[nimble furnace]

So, you can’t put two 50’s down in the same spot?

Unless it’s from 2 different squads?

I pretty sure I done that last night.🤔

[sweet cliff]

You as one player cannot, it's not squad limited you can rotate roles within a squad.

I will bet you anything that if you go drop a box, sit around for 5 minutes and place another one you're going to watch the first disappear.

[sonic oracle]

wait the 50s are out?

[sweet cliff]

No just the preview images in the dev brief

[sonic oracle]

crying

rn

[proper jasper]

They despawn if you change roles, in addition to the cap limit previously mentioned

[sweet cliff]

I don't think they despawn if you change roles.

[proud bane]

thank you

[dawn widget]

how does one join a company

[still vault]

Which file was missing?

[surreal berry]

do manpower nodes decrease respawn time next to a garrison?

[sweet cliff]

No, they generate 10 manpower a minute and they reduce the support role supply box timer from 5 minutes to 2:30 minutes.

[sweet cliff]

#pc-divisions-recruitment #pc-looking-for-unit

Respawn timers are fixed per spawn type, they never change, they're listed in the new players guide (pinned in here).

[surreal berry]

@sweet cliff thanks! I kept hearing different things

[sweet cliff]

It's not an uncommon myth that different things affect spawn time, but all the spawns are on a global cool down from when they were placed.

[dawn widget]

Hi, im new to this game, there is anyone to play? (I have no mic :()

Anyone here playing, I'm fairly new to the game

[dry radish]

K

[uncut jasper]

Wait until you hear what happened to a certain Kickstarter Backer that's no longer here regarding feedback 😬

[dry radish]

Seems like gamers think developers belong to them, these days

BM seem to be pretty open with their community. Just because everyone has an idea doesn't mean all your ideas are gold eggs laid by divine beasts

[sweet cliff]

They should crack down on feedback channels if people shit them up with off topic stuff.

[dry radish]

Also, development takes time, even beyond early access. They are not trying to make YOUR game.. they are trying to focus on features relevant to their vision. It's impossible to make a game that has every single thing their players want.

[still vault]

Catering to players as part of marketing and recapturing sentiments of the 2000s is desired.

Additionally, games are a mind-addling drug in providing entertainment and endorphin hits. This has been exploited by ensuring players will never fully complete a game without grinding to oblivion, or at all.

[still vault]

Additionally, U11 hitching the game's stability and development has led to further polarizing due to the demand for fixes being ASAP, not in months.

It was also similarly fractured in U8 with the node-hopping mechanics being cut down, and the attempt to improve map performance by cutting down on world detail variety among other things in U9.

[uncut jasper]

They've stated their vision multiple times and this game legitimately doesn't reflect almost any of it in its current state.

[nimble furnace]

Stop whinging

[uncut jasper]

I'm not whinging, I'm stating facts. I don't care what direction they take the game in as I'm not a Kickstarter for reasons that are obvious here, but I want the game to be good at a base level.

[still vault]

Was it good in U7?

[uncut jasper]

I didn't play much of U7, I didn't dedicate much time until after U8 came out

I liked the game a lot until red garries and airheads were the only way to play

[still vault]

U8 removed an ability to hop between OPs and garrisons to advance the frontline with the aim of preventing surprise garrison spawns.

[nimble furnace]

I play the game a lot more now than I used too, which means it’s better now than it used to be, for me anyway.

[uncut jasper]

I uninstalled after the last update, it was crushing how boring it was to me and literally changed nothing about how matches progress in pubs

I'll reinstall for the next update, obvs

[nimble furnace]

Silly person

[uncut jasper]

Did you really get booted and come back to keep doing the same shit 🥱

[still vault]

Was he ever kicked before?

[uncut jasper]

Yes, that's why off-topic went into six-hour cooldown

[nimble furnace]

No not at all

They were mass complaining against me like Reddit Dweebs.

[uncut jasper]

Actually, no, you called a kid autistic and then kept insulting anyone who tried to speak with you or correct you and then you got booted for it. All of this started after I was trying to give him legitimate advice about his computer probs, of course.

[dawn widget]

Calm down

[nimble furnace]

Stop lying

[uncut jasper]

The messages are there, they weren't deleted

[dawn widget]

Be like my logo

[nimble furnace]

Stop lying

[dawn widget]

A happy camel

[dawn widget]

Let it fo

Go

[nimble furnace]

Tell him that

[uncut jasper]

Do you have access to #off-topic-mess-hall

[nimble furnace]

I was also trying to help him and then they both started attacking me for no reason whatsoever

[still vault]

Are people pathologically inclined to make statements that deflect and push off other users' remarks?

[uncut jasper]

I can literally post the screenshots here and risk a ban lmao

[nimble furnace]

Or use straw man argument’s

Any mod can easily go through the whole conversation from the start and determine it all, fairly 😊

[uncut jasper]

Is that why you got kicked

[sweet cliff]

Hey I have an idea, why don't we all calm down and stay on topic so we don't get the place for new people to come get help put into slow mode.

[nimble furnace]

I didn’t get kicked

[still vault]

Just do it.

[uncut jasper]

Do you have access to off-topic

[still vault]

Yes.

[nimble furnace]

He won’t have any screenshots of the rest of the conversation 😅 only my responses

[still vault]

However, no one here will feel like searching through it.

[uncut jasper]

Ctrl+F his name in there and start with the SSD stuff

[nimble furnace]

Start before that

[uncut jasper]

Sure, why not

All the messages are still there

[nimble furnace]

Yep

[uncut jasper]

Mine included

[nimble furnace]

You deleted a few😅

[uncut jasper]

Nope, never have

Edited, sure. Deleted, no

You can see edit histories as well

[nimble furnace]

Great 😊

[still vault]

Found it all. Dating to February 4th, 2022 in the #off-topic-mess-hall.

For more information, look for any usage of the phrase Reddit Dweeb.

56 screenshots taken.

[uncut jasper]

I'm done with this, I don't want to risk a ban anymore than I already do lmao

I talk religiously about TKing with arty so

[nimble furnace]

What about what they were saying? Read it all.

[still vault]

It reads as escalation.

[nimble furnace]

Hmmm 🤔

[narrow olive]

How do you get access to off topic

[uncut jasper]

Type .Iagree, I don't know if it works in here

[still vault]

Otherwise, look for the #readme-rules checkbox.

[nimble furnace]

It’s my way, or the highway!!

[dry radish]

@ornate wadi I agree with you that it's a pretty awful thread and doesn't give the impression that ideas are heard and valued. That could definitely be better.

[still vault]

Even if pressured, they may not budge. Just look at Tripwire Interactive whenever someone demands fixing the VOIP.

[next lava]

It's been a while since I checked, but do they reduce to to 2:30, or by 2:30?

[narrow olive]

I think its by

[next lava]

Thanks, I thought so too

[narrow olive]

I never play that role, but it's what I remember

[next lava]

It's such a valuable role, I played it until I maxed out, now I only play it when absolutely necessary. Want to get that IX assault satchel next!

[narrow olive]

Oh yeah I agree

But my time spent on it wasn't that enjoyable

Probably 4th or 5th class I'll pick

[next lava]

Fair point, it's not for everyone, and can feel like busywork, and I'd probably only choose it over rifleman and engineer (also maxed), so I'm about the same.

[snow delta]

What it do

[nimble furnace]

Do it what.

[next lava]

It do what

[sweet cliff]

What it do is a slang greeting.

[nimble furnace]

Never heard of it.

What do… that’s slang

[next lava]

Yeah, like "howzit", edit: "how's it going?"

[nimble furnace]

S’appnin

What’s happening

[cursive pawn]

When is a performance update coming, can’t believe this game will barely hold avg 60fps on a 6900xt

[cursive pawn]

The content roadmap looks dope but even bumping all settings down to low I barely notice but like a 10-20 range difference in fps at most. Would love to see this game running over 90 stable.

Even over clocking my gpu barely changed anything

[still vault]

This is abnormal, but known to occur on a variety of high-end systems, NVIDIA and AMD cards included. Inconsistency in being able to handle the game has been noted.

[spiral compass]

It depends on map and location on that map. Try and play on Foy and you'll see the fps skyrocket

[trim carbon]

uhh

[turbid sandal]

Is it worth leveling up the rifleman to level 6 ( In Germany's side) I've pretty much leveled up the classes that I want to level 3. ( Medic, Support, Anti Tank and Engineer). Leveling Assault now to level 3

[kindred ridge]

Why did they make the American bazooka only have 2 rounds since it’s a weaker weapon than the Germans bazooka

[sweet cliff]

You're right we should make the Shrek weaker too.

[narrow olive]

They both feel the same to me ngl

[sweet cliff]

The Shrek can penetrate the front of the medium US and Soviet tanks and in a very specific spot penetrate the front of the Soviet heavy tank and can penetrate the sides of both US and Soviet heavies

It's better in penetration it still takes the same number of shrek shots to kill stuff as a bazooka

[sweet cliff]

The non joke answer is it's over powered when one AT dude can kill a heavy tank with a rocket left over

[deft trail]

Smart tankers use heavies

[next lava]

Galaxy brain tankers use recon vehicles.

[sweet cliff]

They were way better in U10, you're going to get the taste slapped out of your mouth in U11 by any tank that has a competent spotter and the drivers seat isn't empty

They do dunk on medium Shermans still though since they can't turn

[next lava]

Yeah, I've heard about that, along with the buff to AT guns.

[sweet cliff]

Hilariously recon vehicles are better at fighting AT guns than actual tanks because you can duck/weave easier and fire faster and once a gun starts hitting you in a medium or heavy tank there's a high chance you're dead anyway and the slower reload speed really hampers you

[next lava]

Interesting balancing decisions, I'll miss flanking those heavies in recon.

[sweet cliff]

Well you can still do it, TTK is 5 hits to kill a heavy, 4 to kill a medium but you can get the engine in 3 hits each, U10 was a 2 hit TTK on a medium and 3 on a heavy

so if you can get the engine in 3 hits (you do have to hit the engine hitbox of course) in U11 you can still get them, a dead engine is basically a dead tank

U10 was just devastating though you had tanks that couldn't really turn very well (or at all, medium Sherman) in 1st gear and you only had to get hit twice to die

They tightened up how easy it is to do and it's not nearly as viable to roll up behind a tank solo in a recon vehicle unless that tank is also solo or doesn't have a driver, which is how it should be, they were waaaaaaay too good for free or 100 fuel vehicles

I think it was a great change but it's contentious.

[next lava]

I'll reserve judgement until we get U11, but your justification for the change is completely understandable.

[sweet cliff]

Oh man you're on console lol, well they're probably still great there.

I forget to look at peoples flairs.

[nimble furnace]

Your names funny 😄

[sweet cliff]

Go forth and smash tanks with the recon vehicles, if you get yoursef a second person (3 is obviously a lot better but 2 is very manageable) you can absolutely wreck tanks.

[next lava]

Yes, still taking out all the enemy tanks with one recon on the regular.

[sweet cliff]

It's kind of disgusting to be honest, how good it works.

[next lava]

Absolutely, but we'll make hay while the sun's still shining.

I've also imagined if tank speeds and turret rotations were realistic (i.e. 2x as fast), tanks would absolutely dominate, to the point you'd have to restrict them to 1-2 at any time.

[turbid sandal]

Any classes worth getting up to level 6 or 9?

[narrow olive]

Rifleman imo

At least for the germans because you get the gweher 43

[sweet cliff]

AT 6 as well

Assault 6 gets you a massive amount of grenades

[icy fractal]

i hope we get a sale soon ama buy the game on next sale

[next lava]

Assault 9 gets you the satchel.

[next lava]

Russians also get the explosive ammo at 3

[narrow olive]

really?

[sweet cliff]

You can go into the barracks and view the loadout at any level for any faction

But if you're on Xbox that won't help you

[next lava]

That only works on console if you've already unlocked it 😢

[sweet cliff]

Oh bummer really?

[next lava]

Yeah, there's still a whole bunch of UI bugs (or missing features)

[sweet cliff]

You guys don't get a main menu barracks where you set your uniform per class per faction and can see unlocked loadouts?

[next lava]

But there's also a few they've added (e.g. increasing map icon size)

[sweet cliff]

Bless you console people for being an untapped market allowing more revenue to fund content development for both platforms

[next lava]

I'll confirm right now, please wait... on hold music... nope, can't select locked loadouts to see what's in them from the main menu's barracks option

[sweet cliff]

Well that's a bummer you should submit a bug report

We have U11 loadouts but they're probably mostly the same if you're curious about any

[next lava]

Did they really swap the AT 3/6 loadout, so you get the AT gun before the satchel?

[sweet cliff]

Correct

Rockets Gun Satchel

AT guns are massively OP in U11 though so it works out in the favor of anyone who can rub two brain cells of teamwork together

[narrow olive]

Kinda related but what level do you get the ptrs-41

[next lava]

As someone who enjoys playing tank and anti-tank, this both pleases and upsets me.

[narrow olive]

the key is not to get shot

[sweet cliff]

It's level 1, Soviets don't have a rocket launcher.

[narrow olive]

hmm

[sweet cliff]

It is good but in a different way, you get enough ammo with one life to kill 2 Tigers but you can only penetrate a Tiger or Pz IV (Panther equivalent) from the rear, but you can track a tank from hundreds of meters.

You can also get a Puma from the front and a Luchs from the side.

It's best used like most things in the game in some coordinated fashion, for instance if the German tank can't rotate because it would expose side to an enemy tank you can get a lot done and it doesn't take that many shots to kill the engine on a tank.

Each shot is not much damage but you can't ignore it and you can be getting shot from hundred and hundreds of meters because they have the ammo to walk it in

[narrow olive]

Hypothetically, would it be a one shot to infantry at any range?

[sweet cliff]

500m because at least on PC that's where infantry stops rendering and your client has to register a hit to send it to the server

And it won't register hits on infantry that aren't rendering

I believe it counts as an explosive death when you hit people though so they aren't revivable.

How else may I assist our console allies this fine day.

[nimble furnace]

Scammer 👆🏻

[vagrant furnace]

BAN

[next lava]

I'm hoping this is also the case with the .50 cal when they introduce it

[shrewd jackal]

Is there a development road map somewhere for what features are coming down the road?

Specifically I'd love to know if we're getting the British someday

[dawn widget]

Here's the roadmap up to the end of this year, but it may be revised soon.

#new-recruit-barracks message

Beyond 2022 and into 2023 we rely on the shamanic visions of @glad pasture and murmurs of an expansion which is not cosmetic

[shrewd jackal]

Ah fantastic, thanks for that

Good to see the brits are on there

Yes, british medics should replace their syringes with cups of tea and their bandages with packs of biscuits. That's how you heal a british soldier :p

[tall orchid]

i'm okay with that idea, as the russians replace syringes with a firm shake on the shoulder and an encouraging word about possibly getting shot in the dick by comrade commissar if they don't get off their ass

[narrow olive]

Nah a .50cal shouldn't be explosive

[crystal quail]

hello war fellas, do someone knows if it's possible to commend more than one player per game ?

[icy fractal]

Lmao gta heavy sniper with explosive upgrade

[sweet cliff]

Only one.

[icy fractal]

How will the campaign mode be/ work?

Anyone have an idea?

[tall orchid]

similar to how operations worked in BF1 i imagine

like a successful german defense on purple heart lane means the allies have some handicap on carentan

or the germans have some advantage

like maybe starting the map with a heavy tank

honestly i think an additional mode is unnecessary

[sweet cliff]

I think if it impacts the next map it would be awful, nobody wants to be punished for a series of steamrolls that happened hours ago

[icy fractal]

Nah probably its the other way around

So the allies get more support to hold

Like more medium tanks or something

[icy fractal]

Thats cool i was hoping for something like rising storm 2

Where everyone votes on what place to attack

[sweet cliff]

I'm not a fan of anything that impacts how a match plays out based on the previous rounds results, it's hard enough to try to keep matches relatively even and not steam rolls as it is, and maps can go on for a long time so there can be a lot of player turn over match to match

[icy fractal]

For me its better like that, so if your team gets steam rolled on a map you get a buff on the next map

So you can come back and have a chance

[sweet cliff]

People team swap as is, give them a material advantage besides the players on their team if they team swap and they'll do it even more

[icy fractal]

Ok thats something they would have to remove thats why in bf1 it works so well

And add auto team balance maybe?

[sweet cliff]

I'd like some sort of team balancing thing, but I would hate to see it until they implement the party system because if I'm playing with friends and the game swaps half of the people in my squad that I'm specifically playing with I'm just leaving the server if I can't swap back or they can't swap over too.

I think it would be cool if you could volunteer yourself to team swap and get yourself added to a queue or something, and people on the other team could indicate they want to swap and then it could do a mass swap at some time, because as it is it's near impossible to try to balance by team swapping when teams are full

[icy fractal]

Yeah sadly tho party is coming near the end of the year after campaign

And yeah that would also be cool

[sweet cliff]

I don't think the order of stuff on the roadmap should necessarily be taken as a linear time thing necessarily

[icy fractal]

Oh alright

Then yeah that could be implemented with campaign mode

[icy fractal]

Also i hope africa/italy and asia fronts get added

So new factions could be italy, german afrika corps, japan, us and British marine corps

And maybe like minor factions like free france and Australia

[narrow olive]

Rather than Australian, it should be commonwealth imo

[sweet cliff]

'British Forces' are on the PC 2022 roadmap.

[nimble furnace]

I want Elves and Orcs to be included for diversity purposes.

[sweet cliff]

`I’ve adjusted the copypasta I normally use re the official HLL Map list to what you are seeing now, I confirmed this less than an hour ago with a member of the DEV Team.

"Eastern front map: Kharkov" unveiled by Max in a U10 interview

2022 Roadmap:

Western Front - Unannounced Map(s) currently in development
Night Map Variant - Selected Maps (With Flares)
British Forces - Including 2 Operation Market Garden Maps

Future Development:

Canadian forces - including 2 Falaise Pocket Maps
Japanese forces - including 2 Pacific Theatre Maps
Several NEW maps will be added to each of the above theatres and are in development now.

All other Maps talked about by other members of the Dev team are in various stages of development and are continually being worked on when they are ready, we will receive notifications here in HLL Discord or a future Developer briefing.`

^ is from the mods, I just can't find it pinned in here and you guys probably don't have access to #mess-hall where it is

and that's about as official as it gets until they expound upon that, and the roadmap

[gloomy grove]

Has Drew announced it? If not, it's not official

[sweet cliff]

Fair point, Drewdrew can you confirm this for us please.

[autumn rose]

This was "official"

but it was in the past

so its like a 50/50

[sweet cliff]

it was fairly recent

2nd feb

[autumn rose]

the one above?

[sweet cliff]

yeah

[unkempt storm]

I cannot rightfully confirm the aforementioned

[sweet cliff]

Drew whispered me to tell me he's officially confirming it though despite his previous stance.

[nimble furnace]

Sounds like creepy joe.

[next lava]

I didn't mean explosive per se, just tearing people apart enough to be un-revivable

[narrow olive]

In that case yeah 100%

Maybe a limb shot would be revivable

[next lava]

It's also how they implemented the trench gun.

[narrow olive]

Now i think about it, it should be whatever the ptrs41 is

Pretty the same calibre

[next lava]

Australia a minor faction? Same size as Canadian, and they've been included.

Make British/Canadian a Commonwealth faction, and include Australians; but you'd also need N.Africa/Mediterranean or Pacific theatres for the latter. I'm biased and just want Australian cosmetics (British/US + slouch hat)

[unkempt storm]

You’re a slouch

I’m kidding

[icy fractal]

Actually yeah this would be better you could also add british india and like british Malaya and nz

[narrow olive]

i was hoping for nz

[dawn widget]

PC player, played about 10 rounds. I like medic, level 3 at this point. Looking for a clan

[sweet cliff]

#pc-divisions-recruitment #pc-looking-for-unit

you'll probably have better luck there

[forest oxide]

any tips on m1 carbine? find it hard to make it work compared to g43

[sweet cliff]

The G43 is more comparable to the Garand, the carbine is a slightly weaker weapon.

[modern rampart]

man, the Carbine used to be such a beast

unironically the best gun in game

not anymore though

but to answer the question: the M1 Carbine is more of a close to medium range gun, it's pretty good in close quarters

G43 is more comparable to the Garand

or SVT

[sweet cliff]

It's just a game but in real life a G43 is shooting 7.92x57mm Mauser and a Garand is shooting .30-06 (7.62x63mm) where as .30 Carbine is 7.62x33mm and shoots a lighter bullet than either, it's a lot more comparable to a beefy pistol cartridge than anything else.

[modern rampart]

mind you that you don't perpetuate the myth that the carbine fires a pistol cartdrige

[sweet cliff]

Pistol vs Rifle cartridge is entirely subjective anyway.

[modern rampart]

probably

[sweet cliff]

You can get revolvers chambered in .30 carbine for instance.

[modern rampart]

right, it's technicalities

[sweet cliff]

Anyway it's a video game don't get tied up in real life shit over a game, in game the M1C is modeled to be weaker than those rifles because it serves a different purpose.

The only real answer here is to shoot the person you're shooting at more, or hit them in the head the first time.

[modern rampart]

I am not an arms expert at any rate but I can't count how many times I have seen people claim the carbine fires a "pistol round"

[modern rampart]

Yeah, that applies to every weapon in game tbh.

Shoot them first and shoot them more

regardless of gun

[sweet cliff]

It's more than .357 magnum for instance, but at least part of that is .30 carbine is getting fired out of a rifle barrel for the most part so the gas has more time to impart velocity on the bullet

[modern rampart]

regarding HLL

[sweet cliff]

The best thing to do when playing a video game is to try to dump any conceptions you have on anything based on real life

[modern rampart]

some people would argue that all guns are the same.

[sweet cliff]

Or you'll be shooting a Bazooka at the front of a tank or something wondering why it isn't going through

[forest oxide]

so the takeaway is that the g43 is just better

[sweet cliff]

Than the M1 carbine? I mean sure but they're from different factions, so it's not like you're choosing a G43 over an M1C.

Is a G43 better than an M1 Garand? I suppose? It holds 2 more bullets

[spiral compass]

I prefer the Carbine over the Garand as well. Better iron sight

[forest oxide]

how to add server to favorites? i cannot figure it out

[unborn valve]

is there a place I can find a squad to help me learn the game?

[sweet cliff]

There's a little star next to it you click

[sweet cliff]

The new players guide as well as some videos are pinned in here and also #pc-divisions-recruitment and #pc-looking-for-unit might help

[unborn valve]

alright thanks

[cinder sonnet]

the g43 feels more reliable to me

or at least, it has better ironsights

[slim fractal]

Press the ⭐ in the server browser, next to the server name.

[open smelt]

Hey everyone, im having an issue with deployment in-game, where the deployment timer will run out then reset.

[narrow olive]

thats a mechanic, you pick before it runs out

[open smelt]

then how do i confirm to deploy

[nimble furnace]

The button on the bottom right

[narrow olive]

If you're on console you just press a on the one you want before the timer runs out, then it'll automatically spawn you there

[open smelt]

the button on the bottom right is the problem, it has a timer that resets when it runs out, i cant click on it.

i click on a deployment zone and then it runs out and resets endlessly, theres no other button i can click on to confirm to deploy. im new, sorry

[nimble furnace]

Maybe that spawn point has been taken out.

[open smelt]

its the same at HQ

[sweet cliff]

you're on PC?

[open smelt]

yes im on PC, just bought and installed.

[sweet cliff]

Does it repeat this behavior if you pick a different spawn?

[open smelt]

yes it does.

[sweet cliff]

Any chance you could post a screenshot of your screen?

[open smelt]

the timer in the bottom right will run out, then start over on a loop at all spawn locations i select. i've restarted the game and tried different servers.

[sweet cliff]

So when you click deploy it should lock in and grey out?

[open smelt]

i cant click deploy.

[sweet cliff]

But you can click different spawn locations?

[open smelt]

oh my god i figured it out im so dumb thank you

okay i thought when people said deploy they ment bottom left, not right

[sweet cliff]

oh no, yeah bottom right.

[open smelt]

i didnt know the timer WAS the button

im gonna cry thanks so much man, you're a hero.

[sweet cliff]

Haha I didn't actually help at all you figured it out

[open smelt]

dude i would never have come to that conclusion on my own, thank you still.

[sweet cliff]

There is one semi obscure bug where you'll lock in and it'll hit 0 and then reset but you can't swap spawn points, but I think that's just you actually missing the deploy timer and it not updating the UI correctly and it should deploy you on the next wave, if you ever see that happen.

Hit up the new players guide if you're brand new (it's pinned in here) and drop any more questions you have in here.

and Kursk can be a bit rough as infantry, good luck.

[still vault]

The timer is for the window between spawn waves at the selected location.

[stark raptor]

hey i am a new player here. can someone recommend good English speaking who use comms? the majority of servers i have been in either didnt speak english or hardly used comms (if ever).

[sweet cliff]

What region are you in?

[still vault]

Sort by Ping and check for American servers.

[stark raptor]

SEA but i dont mind any region

[sweet cliff]

Oh shoot then no I'm sorry I don't have any recommendations outside of NA/EU

[still vault]

Comms will vary by squad. Start talking to see if others speak up.

[stark raptor]

go ahead and drop some names, i dont mind the ping ahahaha.

[stark raptor]

yeah i'll try for subsequent games

[sweet cliff]

West coast NA, NPA runs a server (thunder), EU there's Exodus/Powerbits for english speaking servers that I know of

I don't think west coast NA is a super popular server hosting location though, generally if servers get hosted on the east coast (NYC) both American and EU players get acceptable bings

[stark raptor]

ahh thanks!

also, is it normal to have to wait in a queue before entering highly populated servers?

[sweet cliff]

Yeah, if you're trying to join a specific server, if you aren't trying to join a specific server if you join one that's between 40-80 you should get in easily but it'll also fill very rapidly typically if it isn't off hours for that region.

like joining an east coast US server at 3am EST that has 60 guys? That's probably dying

[bitter hill]

WTH, 82AD, FLL, EXD

[slim fractal]

Yes, FLL, top SEA server in the world

[unkempt storm]

FLL a bunch of CLOWNS

Jk

[main bough]

Hey! 😛

[slim fractal]

Oh so it recognizes from edited messages too. Nasty that anti-clown bot.

🃏

[glad pasture]

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Metacritic

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[nimble furnace]

Nothing worse than a back seat SL giving orders out because they’re too scared to actually do the job themselves.😏

[sharp sparrow]

Hello! I haven't gotten HLL yet but I am just wanting to ask if HLL is going to be better than squad, because I am having a hard time on choosing between the two. They both seem like the type of game I would enjoy but there are some reviews that make the game seem really good and then there are some that make the games seem bad. I am just wanting some help from some people that have the game or both to help me decide if possible. Thank you and sorry if this was confusing!

[deft trail]

Theyre not the same games though

Gotta ask yourself what you like, ww2 or modern combat

[glad pasture]

Are you on PC or Console ?

[sharp sparrow]

PC

[glad pasture]

Check this link -33% sale now on with STEAM: https://store.steampowered.com/app/686810/Hell_Let_Loose/

Steam

Hell Let Loose

Fight in the most iconic battles of the Western Front, including Carentan, Omaha Beach and Foy and more. This is combat at a whole new scale....with lumbering tanks dominating the battlefield, crucial supply chains fuelling the frontlines, you are a cog in the machine of colossal combined arms warfare. Hell Let Loose puts you in the chaos of war...

Price

$26.79

Recommendations

42756

Metacritic

79

▶ Play video

[sharp sparrow]

alright, I am going to purchase hell let loose, but I have one more quick question, in one of the reviews I read it said that there was quite a few team killers, is that something I would run into a lot, or will I usually not run into them?

[nimble furnace]

HLL is well better than Squad

[glad pasture]

Jump onto a good community clan server and tell them you are a NEW player.

[sharp sparrow]

ok, I will make sure to do that. Thank you for the help!

[glad pasture]

Watch this video first it will help you; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HQ6JXgIROw

[spiral field]

https://twitter.com/Satoshian2/status/1496716214294351872?t=xf8NiWPlnqukOwbypcJm6Q&s=09

[dawn widget]

My dad will buy this game in a couple of hours!

[dawn widget]

then you're winning son

[proper wharf]

can anyone help me it says no servers and ive done the stuff it says to fix it\

[unkempt storm]

Are you in the PTE version?

[proper wharf]

the test version if so yes

[still vault]

Do not play it. Instead, play the Stable version.

The Public Testing is conducted in limited runs.

The reason why so many confuse it is because both are installed in the initial install prompt, and players assume the absolute latest build is where all the hot new content and playerbase is.

[proper wharf]

ohhhh ok

[dawn widget]

is anybody having issues with really crummy distances? all of the colors become mashed together on my pc.

[livid jacinth]

Try use the community AA

[main bough]

I personally use Clarity TAA.

[livid jacinth]

Community looks way better than the others

For me at least

[tough basin]

Haven't used community AA

didn't even know it was a thing

[unkempt storm]

Clarity for the win

Clarity OP

[modern rampart]

Clarity AA works and looks the best for me, too

sorry not clarity.

Community

It used to be clarity until they added community. Community looks better for me on 1440p

[unkempt storm]

This man doesn’t know what he’s talking about

[tough basin]

Do you?

[unkempt storm]

nods frantically

👀

[modern rampart]

No. (sorry Drew)

Use either Community or Clarity, I'd say

usually community looks better but clarity gives you better vision (apparently)

can't confirm that from my side because clarity makes everything look blurry

[tough basin]

My eye sight sucks in general

I lost my glasses and I'm too lazy to get a new pair.

[nimble furnace]

Make your mind up.

[peak ice]

ah im new too tbh

[normal pike]

Community servers are the best way to enjoy this game

[feral kraken]

Hello, I have a problem. So I just bought this game and finished downloading it, and realized I downloaded the test branch version of the game, but I could not find the original version of the game in my steam library, can someone help me?

[sweet cliff]

Maybe restart steam? You can't only get the public branch so the other one should be there.

[still vault]

Look in the Uncategorized collection.

The one you filtered out.

[feral kraken]

where do I find the uncategorized collection?

@still vault

[still vault]

See that drop-down where Games and Software is listed?

[feral kraken]

I only see group by collection, software, tools, and games in it

@still vault

[still vault]

Right. Attempt to use the Search bar to find it, maybe.

[feral kraken]

still only shows the public testing version

[still vault]

What about the Hidden results?

[feral kraken]

holy shit im fucking blind

nvm lmao

[still vault]

Oops. Dynamic Collections strike again.

[feral kraken]

how do I make it so its not hidden and have it appear in my library

[still vault]

Try installing it or explicitly moving it to the desired Collection.

[still vault]

This must be a source of players accidentally trying to play the PTE from assuming it is the game.

Also, not checking the Downloads section.

[feral kraken]

Okay thanks for the help

[foggy maple]

Hello I recently got Hell Let Loose as I love war games but it doesn't seem very beginner friendly and i'm finding it quite confusing. When I'm out on the battle field I quite often find myself getting killed out of nowhere, meanwhile I'm actually looking to see if there are enemies in the distance but I never see anyone. Not only that but in general I struggle to locate where I am on the map and which direction the enemies are in.

[silver aurora]

Can’t find yourself on the map just Ping the ground right infront of you then open the map

[foggy maple]

What about actually knowing where I should be going and where the enemies are. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if is the trees that are killing me

[sweet cliff]

that and there's also a new pingy indicator when you open the map, but as you learn the maps and know generally where you are based on what you can see it'll get easier

[still vault]

Set Postprocessing Quality to Medium to remove most visibility impediments.

The rest requires inference as to where shots came from, and knowing you can be seen easily from 100-200m away minimum.

[sweet cliff]

If you stick to defense you'll have better luck too, it's easier to see movement .

[foggy maple]

How many kills do you guys usually get a match?

[still vault]

A few.

Sometimes more.

[nimble furnace]

It’s not uncommon to have a higher death rate to kill count, but you’re doing your part for the overall win. But you still feel immense satisfaction when winning a game!

No other game makes me feel this way.😊

[sweet cliff]

It's so variable depending on what you're doing to help the team win, it could go from 0-50+

[still vault]

Arty and tanking moment.

[silver aurora]

I’m usually hunting garrisons

[nimble furnace]

I never go tanking or arty.😏 I’m a man at arms.

[sweet cliff]

Tanking can be a lot of fun.

[tawdry hatch]

So garrisons can only be destroyed by AT bazookas, satchels and not grenade? What i am supposed to do if i play as an assault class when i spotted an enemy garrison?

[still vault]

Hold F to Dismantle. Survive.

[sweet cliff]

If you get close to it you'll also lock it so people can't spawn on it, so you can disassemble it.

[tawdry hatch]

thx

[shell tide]

how do I find people to play with as a new pc player?

[sweet cliff]

#pc-looking-for-unit #pc-divisions-recruitment

[dawn widget]

Who wants to play?

[livid jacinth]

Just join squads until you find one using mics

[dawn widget]

its so hard finding one without a full queue and good ping

[livid jacinth]

I think the ping thing is broken for me

I always have 100-180 ping once I join the server

Regardless of what the browser said

Even if it said 40 it’s still like 100 when I connect

[tall orchid]

the browser ping is just a single-packet roundtrip

ingame ping includes the time it takes for the server to crunch the data from 99 other players

[nimble furnace]

Interesting 🧐

[cold rampart]

Hey guys, pretty much brand new to the game on PC. Are there any good servers which are pure beginners or atleast very beginner friendly. Done like 2 games and had my ass handed to me ^^

Europe located preferable

[glad pasture]

Watch video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HQ6JXgIROw then go to #pc-divisions-recruitment and #pc-looking-for-unit

[cold rampart]

Thx bud

[still vault]

The scoreboard ping is a Latency measurement.

[patent idol]

Did we experience any bazooka dmg changes since patch 10?
So, if at the time some testing was done, would it still apply?

[tall orchid]

Patch 10 or update 10

[patent idol]

Update 10*

[tall orchid]

I don’t believe so

[sweet cliff]

Don't believe damage or penetration changed, just count

[patent idol]

What do you mean by 'count'

[still vault]

Ammunition?

[patent idol]

If the damage is the same the ammount of shots required stays the same

[sweet cliff]

It went from 4 to 2 that the US AT carried in the September patch

[patent idol]

Oh, thought you meant shots to kill count

[still vault]

While shots to kill is not affected, what is is how many are on hand.

AT now requires coordinating with a Support class or other role with explosives ammunition boxes.

[sweet cliff]

Or just do what everyone does and get yourself killed and redeploy and come back with new rockets

[small osprey]

dont downvote my medic suggestion you little dork

[sweet cliff]

I down voted you because it's a known issue and it's likely going to be addressed in the upcoming patch.

[small osprey]

ahhh

[sonic oracle]

yes i only play AT with a friend now cuz of this

[small osprey]

well i dont sit in this discord all day so i wouldnt know

[unkempt storm]

you should

[small osprey]

why so i cant gatekeep like u ?

[unkempt storm]

are you tryna sit there and tell me you dont want a gate to keep?

are you a gate loser

[small osprey]

no

[unkempt storm]

i keep my gates THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR

[small osprey]

nooooooooo

[unkempt storm]

the damage has been done

[small osprey]

share them gates

[unkempt storm]

❌

[small osprey]

crap

[still vault]

Gates? Just stay on the fences rather that weak points in them.

[upper pumice]

Hows everyone today?

[unkempt storm]

We are keeping the gates

[loud dune]

What's the deal with parachute colours? Is 'Axis' always red, 'Allies' always grey? Is that how it works?

[still vault]

Yes.

Acts as IFF for Supplies. Not so sure about Airheads, but maybe also those.

Germans also get the historically appropriate supply canisters.

[livid jacinth]

Me waiting bri ish update

[sweet cliff]

Airheads are always red though

Otherwise red chute with a big old torpedo is german supplies, white chute and a square is allied supplies

[loud dune]

Field Manual entry about the parachute identification system/colours would be beneficial

[unkempt storm]

I mean, it’s much easier to tell what it is by looking at what it is vs. Trying to make out the chute colour

[nimble furnace]

Hmmm 🤔 I could do with having the pictures to look at, so I can identify them.

[unkempt storm]

🧐🧐

[sweet cliff]

Chute color is critical for distinguishing between allied supplies and allied airheads at long distance

[still vault]

Without checking map grids.

[unkempt storm]

I love ya noodle but c’mon 😕🥴

[nimble furnace]

That’s what I do tbh

[sweet cliff]

When you have no binos and you see a box way in the distance you can distinguish between color on the chute easier than the box or slightly different box

[nimble furnace]

But I still can’t identify them by sight.

[sweet cliff]

Hop on an empty server as commander and drop them both on top of you

[foggy maple]

Is there a general chat?

[sweet cliff]

You've got the mess hall which one you get depends on if you joined before or after early access

[foggy maple]

What's mess hall?

[sweet cliff]

Look at the channels on the left

[foggy maple]

Yeah i've looked but I don't see it

[still vault]

Look at the category drop-downs.

[glad pasture]

Can you see it now ? #mess-hall

[foggy maple]

Yep thankyou

[glad pasture]

👍

[foggy maple]

Btw how do you know if you killed someone? is there a kill count or can you only see it after the game ends

[glad pasture]

Press TAB key whilst in game

[sweet cliff]

You can watch your combat effectiveness points go up as well as kill number on your personal stats

But that will only happen once they're dead dead, so explosions or headshots are instant, if you just down them it won't happen until they tap

[rich wedge]

Well. First game, played about 30 minutes, died a dozen times, only ever saw the enemy once

[still vault]

What was Postprocessing Quality set to?

[unkempt storm]

98% of the time you die, you won't see them, either in 30 minutes or in 600 hours, how it is

[cursive pawn]

Probably not looking and just running toward the point.

[silent sundial]

cover and conceal, wait, watch

then move

[cursive pawn]

Half the shots I take the enemy is the size of the notch on my cross hairs don’t think the average shooter player is use to that.

[icy fractal]

Just bought hell let loose lezzz goooo

Headset arrives tommorrow

Cant wait to play

[sweet cliff]

Take a few minutes and read the new players guide before you hop in a match, it'll save you a lot of frustration https://www.reddit.com/r/hellletloose/comments/q23r8m/_/

[icy fractal]

Thanks but no need watched a tutorial by terrydactyl and mono

[sweet cliff]

Excellent

As long as you hop in with some info it'll make it so much easier than trying to figure it out on the fly.

[icy fractal]

Yes for sure

[nimble furnace]

Hope your headset is 7.1🤔

[icy fractal]

it is 7.1 surround sound just checked lol

[obtuse pumice]

I will say though, figuring it out on the fly was pretty fun for me, though I didn't figure out what a hammer actually did until yesterday

[gusty crypt]

Hey guys gals, veteran PC player here with an extra key for xbox. Looking for someone to play with. Free key, just hit me up

[cobalt jasper]

Should i get HLL now or wait for a bigger sale sometime in the future

based on your guy's opinions

[sweet cliff]

I don't think they discount it more than whatever its discounted at now if its still on sale

[valid crescent]

Why isn't combat effectiveness rewarded more?

1x0.75 is combat effectiveness math basicaly

and even getting 750 combat effectiveness does only get you 1000 points

[gloomy grove]

750 combat effectiveness gets you 750 xp

It's all a 1:1 ratio

[valid crescent]

Right but even less

Why so low?

[gloomy grove]

Why do you think it's low?

You get score from just being alive

Or dropping supplies

[valid crescent]

to encourage defence and possibly teamwork but i mean

Anti tank role is basically go all out kill

[gloomy grove]

How does giving more XP for killing encourage teamwork?

[valid crescent]

I meant the opposite

theyve made it like that so it does encourage teamwork

and not solo rambo

[gloomy grove]

Yes

[valid crescent]

if you ask me still a bit under rewarding

[gloomy grove]

That's why being alive and doing supporting roles gives you more XP

[nimble furnace]

In a perfect world, people would be switching roles constantly within a great efficient squad, apart from squad leader of course

[turbid onyx]

If you dismantle a friendly garry does it give you the supplies back?

[nimble furnace]

Good question

[gloomy grove]

Nah fuck that, I've lead some rag tag squads of low levels and had to switch into AT to get an AT gun set up. As long as your OP is safe, you're fine.

[gloomy grove]

It does not

Only commanders can dismantle all friendly garrisons btw. An SL can only dismantle their own. I see people saying SLs can dismantle all garrisons a lot

[nimble furnace]

With a squad full of high ranking players would be different.🤔

[gloomy grove]

Sure, less likely to be needed absolutely

[nimble furnace]

And would be possible for each player to switch roles effectively as needed.

[edgy hamlet]

what does putting a star next to a role/class do?

[sinful bridge]

Favorite it so it's the class that shoes up in the menu

Shows*

[edgy hamlet]

cool thx

[dawn widget]

hot drop or tropic fever?

[pastel basin]

cant play the game, just getting anti-cheat messages that says it does not recognise 2 files in the folder, and the files are files from the game! HLL-WindowsNoEditor.pak and sig

[nimble furnace]

Disable the cheat software you’re using.

[pastel basin]

i am not using a cheat software

[nimble furnace]

Go to tech support, they’ll help you.

[main bough]

@pastel basin - Have you gone into Steam and Re-verified your game files?

[pastel basin]

trying now, if it does not work, i will ask at tech support

[main bough]

That will be your answer over there too. 😉

[unkempt storm]

what you gotta do is remove your graphics card - i can help with that

[nimble furnace]

I’ll help with the packaging and posting.

[unkempt storm]

it takes a village ♥️

[proud bane]

how many hits do you need to kill a puma(from the front) with an AT rifle as the soviets?

[sweet cliff]

https://theline.gg/tankbible there's a section in there about the PTRs

[proud bane]

thank you very much

[still vault]

Wait a minute.

Non-Fungible Ape detected.

Screenshot or real purchase?

[edgy quiver]

Thinking about buying the game, but unsure if it'll really be for me, so hesitant. What made you fall in love with the game? Where does it shine especially bright? What are the things it is unique in (as far as you knbow at least)? And on the flip side, what parts of the game do you personally dislike?

[cursive pawn]

Watch one of the 30min new player guides on YouTube and then decide if you actually want to learn the game or just want a shooter and to get kills. If you just want a shooter to get kills then you’ll probably prefer rising storm or insurgency.

[edgy quiver]

The thing is I know I like both run and gun kill farm shooters and strategic methodical shooters. Both have their place imo. And I honestly really like hearing multiple perspectives. And actually watching a video like that right now xD But gotta get as many perspectives as possible. I don'Ät really have that much money, and already bought Elden Ring today, so i just baaarely can afford the game with the DLC, so kinda worried i might not like it and not be able to refund in time if that's the case (and with shooters like this, honestly 2 hrs arent enough to determine if you like it or not by playing...)

[still vault]

Okay.

First Question: Did you ever play Bad Company 2?

[cursive pawn]

What else have you played similar

[edgy quiver]

Not that I can remember, so propably not.

[nimble furnace]

It’s like squad but with more action and easier to play

[edgy quiver]

Well, in the methodical shooter in general (no idea if it's really comparable or not) but to pick up the "hierarchy factor" of the game, War of Rights, which i loved, and I rella love Arma 3, even tho i am more than awefull at it, I outright suck, but still enjoy it.

Never played squad either xD

damn, i type way to fast for my own good.

[cursive pawn]

If you can deal with arms 3 than this is fine

Main thing is only two player per 50 man team can use a rifle with a scope so if you hate iron sights then steer clear

[still vault]

Can you watch gameplay footage of it?

[edgy quiver]

Well, the thing is, within about 50+ deaths in arma 3, i maybe managed 5 kills, and mostly have zero idea what'S going o9n, and havent really played pvp modes yet, just coop so far, which kinda is like a totaly different game as far as i was told..

[edgy quiver]

theoretically, yes.

[still vault]

That will give you an idea of what the movement system seen in HLL appears to most closely resemble.

[edgy quiver]

let me ask this, how "tolerant" is the general ingame-community towards seemingly inept newbies? cause that'D propably be me for the fiurst few months

[cursive pawn]

This is the best shooter I’ve played in years so I’m biased. Think anyone in here will be too

[still vault]

Depends on the server and what role you pick. Generally, being talkative, receptive to advice, and so on is encouraged.

[cursive pawn]

If you ask legit questions you are fine, I don’t hear many idiots in game because it’s too brutal for that crowd

[edgy quiver]

Do you mean it as that the movement is more on the momentum based physics side?

[cursive pawn]

As long as you aren’t playing on console you should be fine

[still vault]

Not quite that, but BC2 resembles the walking and running pacing of HLL to a highly similar extent.

[edgy quiver]

Well, I have a mic, and generally like to use it too, in a immersive way (so not just to babble useless info, but restrict myself to things the character might say, with exceptions if the moment allows of cause.

[still vault]

Okay, that works.

[nimble furnace]

You already sound like a pro😊

[edgy quiver]

How so?

[nimble furnace]

With your communication

In game

[edgy quiver]

Okay, gonna watch a video, but let me still ask, I guess, that in HLL the momvement is as if you'd actually carry a 90pound backpack and vests andd so on, and not as if you were in sports gear with perfect mopvement freedom?

[nimble furnace]

Yep