new-recruit-barracks

[nimble furnace]

Yes, only 2 sniper squads per team I think, so 2 sniper’s

[cerulean pasture]

Good!

That was my number one concern.

[drowsy kettle]

is it true hll was sold to team 17?

[still vault]

The IP was sold to the publishing entity, yes.

[drowsy kettle]

are the original devs going to work on it

[still vault]

Maybe.

[dawn widget]

Definitely for at least 18 months, and maybe beyond too

[brisk grove]

Personally I find the recon role hard to play

I need a bigger unit

[nimble furnace]

🧑🏻‍🦯Follow another unit then

[north patio]

Love this damn game. I’m on ps5 Fire_N_The_BooTH. I’d love to join up with some of you

[strange python]

What I can't stand is everyone locking recon squads. It's such a drag to actually obtain & maintain sniper role. You either create the squad and are stuck as squad lead or wait on the deployment screen with 2 dozen other people and try to out-click everyone the moment you see an unlocked recon squad which rarely happens because again recon squads are usually locked upon creation

[naive fern]

exactly

[noble oasis]

they are supposes to hit the back lines, hitting trucks or arty

[brisk grove]

I know but that shit is hard

Especially when you need tankers to drive the recon vehicles

[noble oasis]

Are we talking about the tank or the squad?

[brisk grove]

The squad as well

I feel like both roles need a scoped rifle

[brisk grove]

Nah their usually full

For me

[small aspen]

no matter what setting i turn up the voices in game are so low

why is this

[cerulean pasture]

I wish I knew.😞

[strange python]

@brisk grove I play on half a dozen servers maybe more? And 90% of the time Recon is locked right at the start and if it isn't then it's 1/2 because that squad leader left and the other guy refuses to give up sniping which I don't blame them but it makes that person vulnerable because they can get kicked out of the squad by a rando who then locks the squad and invites a buddy of theirs off steam.

You can't win with Recon which is sad because I really enjoy sniping in this game.

[peak veldt]

Rest of your sounds are too high. Turn them down

[barren anchor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/836649649632575618/929063579590725632/FelineOrganicLangur-size_restricted.gif

[little lava]

how do you get all these roles? i'm an event organiser for Lost Legion [LL]

[nimble furnace]

Francy Pants 🩲

[little lava]

what's with all the roles, how do you get them? @Enlisted @Conscript @War Arranger etc.

[nimble furnace]

By participating in chat 💬

[warm knot]

not true

[little lava]

i'm right here 🙋‍♂️

plus i post to #pc-divisions-recruitment almost every day

[brisk grove]

Ear rape in command moment

[nimble furnace]

True, True, True 😊

[little lava]

<@&365680483276816385>
#new-recruit-barracks message

[nimble furnace]

Do you mean the little thing next to a name?

Who cares 🤷‍♂️

[little lava]

community managers/reps. care 😉

[nimble furnace]

😏

I’m a Floppy Disk 💾

[unkempt storm]

#readme-rules to start, beyond that, 🤷‍♂️

[empty heron]

hll got sold?

then what will happen to its future?

better content or worse?

[thorny hemlock]

Yo

How do I get the Soviet stuff

Is it an add-on?

[brisk grove]

Better

[brisk grove]

It’s an update bozo

Not on console yet

[thorny hemlock]

oh okay

bozo

[brisk grove]

Also how would this mean worse content

[slim fractal]

Easily.

Only time will tell.

[brisk grove]

The point is to make the game bigger and more successful do you think they’d cut corners?

[autumn rose]

yes

they have

they do

its called a game product

[brisk grove]

U just blow in from stupid town?

[autumn rose]

Okay Xbox user

This game has cut corners since U4

[unkempt storm]

you know, I for one appreciate dirty dan's optimism

[warped hearth]

No one drops 46 mil on something to gut it and drop support immediately, they are going to try to build the game and brand of HLL to recoup investment.

This will mean more content, and more paid dlc. Will this be good for the game? Maybe. It's okay to have concerns but being optimistic isn't unrealistic.

They also secured the original dev team for 18 months Which is a good sign

[brisk grove]

Yes I play on Xbox I enjoy playing the game on Xbox

[brisk grove]

thank you for getting my point across

Also I love how he tries to insult me for using Xbox ?

[autumn rose]

Lmao you said I blew in from stupid town and then acted like you're an HLL elder

This game has added broken or half finished content many many times

After U8 the game was so broken that the hotfix was basically a major update

[brisk grove]

No I didn’t ?

It’s just that you don’t think it’s going to get better which is the whole point of the acquisition

You accuse me of acting like a HLL elder when I’m attacking your useless pessimism

[unkempt storm]

getting spicy in here 🥵

[brisk grove]

They call me dirty Dan for a reason

[unkempt storm]

I need to know who calls you this

[brisk grove]

Everyone

[crisp marsh]

Anyway to know how many ppl r on que on server list? It so annoying everytime i try to join a server that is 89/100 and always said server is full

[still vault]

My experience from World War 3 leads to being put on edge.

It may turn out well, but I do not expect it to until it does for real.

[meager mango]

Will the Winter Warfare DLC come back to steam anytime soon?

[nimble furnace]

Next winter

🥶

[meager mango]

That’s fucked

[muted monolith]

After how many hours played I finally can start seeing enemy targets?

[tall orchid]

bout tree fiddy

[meager mango]

So can I get a PC role too or some shiz?

[unkempt storm]

Just select which one you want in #readme-rules

[dawn widget]

hi, please how can I get to upper levels to finally see also veteran channels? I think I was recruit here for long enough. Even almost level 100 in game

or it is still on manual basis to dm some mod?

[autumn rose]

@lean orchid

👍

[glad pasture]

ATTENTION: Re the latest:

***Team17 buys Hell Let Loose and indie publisher The Label.

---

As we all by now know this is now common knowledge and is already out in the public domain. Without breaching my **N.D.A. **I can officially say the: **Black Matter development team return from their End of Year holidays on MONDAY the 10th of January 2022.
**
An official statement will be released likely next week. Until then all the Chinese whispers and other remarks mean nothing until Dev’s MAX & Spono release the official announcement:

But no real fundamental change for the team and the plans for HLL

[winter fiber]

@glad pasture when they release the statement in a week will they be discussing what's going to happen after 18 months?

[glad pasture]

I can honestly say I have no information on this lets just wait for the official statement.

[autumn rose]

you cannot afaik

haha

[dawn widget]

very embarassing

[autumn rose]

yeah you're carrying obviously

if your score in offensive or defense is fine no one will even notice

I've had a squad member with 2 combat effect

[crisp ether]

this game is just queue simulator 2021

[sweet cliff]

Try joining servers that have between 50-80, queue should be minimal but then they should fill up pretty quickly. Time of day dependent of course.

If you're playing at off hours for your region it can be tough.

[odd nexus]

Hi guys, I'm brand new to the game. Do any you guys have any tips that would be good for a new player?

[noble oasis]

take it slow,
have a rough idea where the enemy's are
if they see you 1st you are more then likely gonna die
dont be afeared to dump a mag to draw attention
be careful of moving trucks
use cover, but concealment is often better, cover and concealment is best

[north zinc]

this isnt cod/battlefield, time to kill is incredibly fast so take it slow like doshskia said. and most importantly

learn from your mistakes and probably listen to advice from other players in-game (unless they are pricks then do whatever lol)

[sweet cliff]

Read the new players guide, it's pinned on reddit and in here.

[odd nexus]

thanks guys, I'll keep these tips in mind

[gilded beacon]

Hey everyone,

So i was thinking to buy this game, but it is pretty expensive compared to other games i generally biy

Buy*

[nimble furnace]

You can buy it in G2A Games for around £15

[gilded beacon]

I like to use my mind as i play games, i would love a tactical fps like this where everyone has a spesific job to do, but will i be able to find vc teams that are communicative?

[nimble furnace]

Of course

[gilded beacon]

This seems like my dream game, going to check it out, thanks bud

[nimble furnace]

It’s the best game I’ve played for years

So addictive and satisfying

[gilded beacon]

Wow, one last question

Are there cosmetics or ranks etc... What do you get for winning i mean what is the reward for your playtime

[nimble furnace]

Watch this… best description of the game around. https://youtu.be/ae3vaa1cOhU

[gilded beacon]

Okay thanks

[nimble furnace]

You rank up and unlock new load outs. Yes, it has buyable cosmetics.

[gilded beacon]

Oh okay

Thanks man for sure a buy for me

[nimble furnace]

I don’t buy any though 😏

I just use the ones that are free, good enough for me.

[past nimbus]

why do hll have emojis for flags when discord has emoji for flags

[sweet cliff]

You have an overall player level which gives you an in game icon, then you have levels for each role which dictates your loadout, which is what equipment you have.

So if you're player level 200 for instance you'll have a Lt. Colonels icon.

Class levels go from 1 to 10, some classes have more unlockable load outs than others, for instance assault has 1, 3 6 and 9 I believe, but the Soviets don't have a level 9

[harsh skiff]

if anyone has a nice discord i can join please let me know

i want to be able to help turn the tide in battle as i have before and legitimitly changed how the battle was going.

dm me if anyone has info

[slim fractal]

#pc-divisions-recruitment is full of different Discords, happy browsing

[harsh skiff]

thank you

[unkempt zinc]

At the start of the game, are there supply trucks that automatically spawn in (like transport trucks), or does the commander have some resources already to spawn them in their self?

[sweet cliff]

There's always an auto spawn supply truck at mid spawn

As well as an auto spawn transport at each spawn, each commander spawn supply or transport is 100 fuel.

I guess technically it isn't an auto spawn because it won't come back.

[burnt ridge]

Congratulations Team 17

"Team17 acquires Hell Let Loose for up to £46 million | The Loadout" https://www.theloadout.com/hell-let-loose/team-17-acquisition

[unkempt storm]

you are late to the party ifaq

[burnt ridge]

Darn

[nimble furnace]

Not bad for a $220,000 development budget😮

If Wikipedia is correct that is, but that’s a rare event.

[gloomy grove]

It's more than 220,000. That was just the Kickstarter fund. How do you think they funded the game for the two years prior?

KS was them just getting a core audience who would pay to test their game

[past nimbus]

tbh i think when they add britain they should add winston churchill as a commander for customisation

[unkempt storm]

Absolutely yes this is perfect

[pastel fractal]

I agree with this fine gentleman

[frosty knot]

Wassup gays

[weary prism]

hey, im new. do i just go to #pc-looking-for-unit to find a squad or do i just jump into a server?

[worn oasis]

Either option

[jade sparrow]

didnt team 17 drop

ready or not?

ready or obama

barrack or obama

[uncut jasper]

Not sure if it was necessarily dropped, but they did part ways with Void Int., yes

[sweet cliff]

How many times do we need to discuss that $220k is enough to pay 3-4 people for maybe a year and that it is blatantly obvious that they had other funding sources.

[sweet cliff]

And if you can get 220k interest free with no real obligation to anyone else that's a better funding source than borrowing or kicking in more of your own money, doesn't mean the game wouldn't have happened without it.

[raw comet]

Hey can anyone help me get better at the game

Im trying to learn it

Please,

Just ping or DM me

[north zinc]

@raw comet you'll get better with time my guy

[raw comet]

Mkay

[north zinc]

just keep playing!!!

[raw comet]

aight

Ive been playing fer 3.4 hours total and not doin too good

I play Rising Storm 2 a lot and I love it

but this just seems wayyy harder imo

[north zinc]

it's a steep learning curve to say the least, but you'll get used to it

[raw comet]

alright thanks

[north zinc]

i guess just take it slow

[meager mango]

Do you think at any point the HLL devs will add the ability for Tank Crews to sit outside their tanks on the way to the battle?

[north zinc]

and stick to cover/concealment

[north zinc]

would be cool for infantry to be able to sit on the side of tanks

[meager mango]

That too

[north zinc]

and also letting tank commanders turn out of the hatch!!!!

[meager mango]

Yeah I hope that stuff gets added to the game

And hopefully the implementation of Mounted MGs on the Tanks

Like an MG-34/42 on top of the German Tanks, and a 50. Cal or Browning MG for the US

[autumn rose]

@dawn widget hilarious

alt #4?

[still vault]

In Rising Storm 2, suppression mechanics usually came into play seconds before death, and were not as visual in nature as they were in terms of weapon bouncing.

In Hell Let Loose, Suppression is less about recoil bouncing and more about a radial blur effect that takes ten seconds or more to fade out.

[nimble furnace]

It’s awesome and works perfectly

[north zinc]

also makes your gun very hard to aim properly

[nimble furnace]

Yep, Suppressive fire!! Suppressive fire!! Let’s pin’em down boys and move, move, move!!

[still vault]

Additionally, most contacts are at 100m range or more, and will conflict with settings such as Motion Blur, Anti-Aliasing, and Postprocessing Quality, among others such as Foliage.

[noble oasis]

It dose not so much as makes it harder to aim it just makes it harder to see anythink out side the center of the screen

[nimble furnace]

Motion Blur is Silly, I always turn it off in games.

[still vault]

Motion Blur is only done well if it is subtle enough to be subconsciously ignored and tuned out in player perception.

[quick bolt]

I'm getting a lot of invisible objects on the Carentan map, does this happen to anyone else?

[still vault]

At range, or close-up?

[quick bolt]

Both

[winter fiber]

well in a week Black Matter is releasing a statement so ill be waiting for that

[dawn widget]

I occasionally run into objects that aren't rendered in for me.

[quick bolt]

They never appear for me. I run into them but can see right thru whatever they are. I see teammates standing ontop of them, etc.

[still vault]

And this is on what GPUs and View Distance settings?

[quick bolt]

I hadn't noticed it at all in Stalingrad, but it's all over the place in Carentan. I might try re-loading the game & testing.

rx 6600 xt and whatever default view distance is. I can double check

[still vault]

If it is at High, set to Epic and re-test. The View Distance settings are notoriously aggressive in culling in the name of "performance improvements" and "optimizations", but lead to things like terrain meshes LODing and forming into place before your very eyes on Hurtgen Forest, Hill 400, Utah Beach, and so on.

[quick bolt]

Ah thanks, will do

[still vault]

Even on Epic View Distance, though, the terrain mesh nonsense still occurs.

It is simply not as intensive depending on the map.

[quick bolt]

I changed to Epic (was on High) and joined a Carentan server and it was fixed (saw all the rubble, boxes, and partially destroyed walls). I did try setting back to High and re-joining and it was still fine though.

[still vault]

Huh. In that case, it seems that the View Distance settings are not only much too aggressively low in LOD and cull distances, but also start out even lower or otherwise more broken on each game session startup, assuming the setting is not changed.

[quick bolt]

Hmm interesting. Also, I didn't get any "popping" in and out or anything, when it was busted nothing formed into place or anything, just always invisible.

Oh well will keep it in mind

[still vault]

It may be something to watch out for, or otherwise something the engine does on resource-constrained systems, such as on cards with 4GB and lower GPU Memory available.

You have a total of 8GB on the RX 6600, and so have ample room for the game's assets at 1080p and 1440p.

[quick bolt]

Yeah I'm running @ 1080p

[still vault]

In that case, there is enough room fer what the game typically takes up when using texture streaming at Epic settings or otherwise.

[unkempt storm]

irl?

[quick bolt]

I am told to Redeploy, but when I do it says something about being "Punished" did I do it wrong?

[sweet cliff]

No, that's just how redeploy works, you're killing yourself, if you blew yourself up with a grenade it would do the same

If you drown yourself however I don't think it counts that.

[unkempt storm]

This is wholesome

[still vault]

It is the general point deduction for suicide.

[sweet cliff]

The punishment timer is automatic when you TK someone, you can never ever avoid that, when they punish you it counts towards you getting kicked from the server and you can't see when you're punished or not, it will give you a warning when you're getting close.

[quick bolt]

Ah k, thanks. Seems like something worth a little tooltip like the other stuff you dismiss by pressing 'O'.

[sweet cliff]

Yeah it's a super common misconception.

[deft trail]

I dont think the punishment timer is automatic anymore

[sweet cliff]

It 100% is.

[slim fractal]

It is.

And they are not gonna change it because people need to be punished 🤷

[hollow peak]

good morning all. total, complete, 100% noob here. Just bought it.
Looks so ****in awesome. Looking forward to learning

[sweet cliff]

Read the new players guide, covers a lot of important stuff you need to know. https://www.reddit.com/r/hellletloose/comments/q23r8m/_/

It'll only take a few minutes and it will make your matches so much better because you'll have a clue as to what's going on.

[nimble furnace]

Welcome Noob.😊 https://youtu.be/5HQ6JXgIROw

[unkempt storm]

Welcome noob

[hollow peak]

😊

[nimble furnace]

More Cannon-fodder. 🤙🏻

[deft trail]

Oh silence, Picard.

[proud bane]

Is the "I'll Be Right There" achievment bugged? I revived at least 20 people but did not get the achievment

[deft trail]

Report it in the bug reporting channel

[proud bane]

ok will do

[fast ember]

Its not exclusive to that

If you check personal stats you cant even see your revives

At least I cant

that is probably the issue, it just doesnt log the fact you are reviving

[proud bane]

yea I noticed that too that it did not count the revives

[ember nexus]

Just noticed this

Pretty cool Easter egg

[hasty tinsel]

It's only the size of a battleship

[fathom grove]

Hey I’m just checking out the Discord for this game before I buy it are there a lot of people that play it or is it pretty much dead because I can’t see any active games in the discord at the moment

Is it dead?

[modern rampart]

No, game is alive and has got a healthy playerbase.

[fathom grove]

How do u get into games with a mic and a full working team?

[modern rampart]

It's hit or miss.

generally play on community servers

[fathom grove]

So theres no open discord like tarkov?

That kinda sucks

[modern rampart]

lmao

no.

[fathom grove]

I base my game purchasing on the Community now I’ve gotten to many games that we’re supposed to be team-based but with no communication

And with a game like this I can’t afford to make that mistake

[peak veldt]

There is comms here - even switching squads can be the difference between a silent sweaty game and one rich with teamwork

[fathom grove]

Do a lot of people play though?

[peak veldt]

Yes

[tidal yarrow]

I find full servers every day

[peak veldt]

The game is enormously popular

[modern rampart]

lots of people play

[peak veldt]

Sometimes you have to try a bit extra to find that squad full of friendly talkers but it’s not too difficult

It’s getting better now as the Christmas/steam sale people are learning how to communicate and play properly

[tidal yarrow]

There's 9289 players online as of 22 minutes ago according to steamcharts

30 day avg has been

5,255.3

Pretty solid

[deft trail]

Population and accessibility

Need to articulate what youre after

[unkempt storm]

my health isn't terrible

[deft trail]

Maybe your mental health is on a decline

[modern rampart]

I never said that.

You are a very healthy man.

[unkempt storm]

oh I know, I know, just confirming

[modern rampart]

Official confirmation, so to speak.

[unkempt storm]

I DONT hAvE mEnTaL ProbLemS

[modern rampart]

Community Manager confirmation.

[vagrant thistle]

i wanna join a squad, im 22 and EU

[deft trail]

Im a figment of your imagination

[autumn rose]

Man with Pepe profile picture tells someone hes in their walls

Hey i've seen this before

[unkempt storm]

#pc-divisions-recruitment / #console-divisions-recruitment

[signal harness]

Drewdrew is a paragon of health: confirmed

[unkempt storm]

Mental AND physical

[autumn rose]

no just physical

you're built like jonny bravo but your frontal lobe is severed

[ionic jacinth]

2022 is the year of indie games literally

[still moon]

This should be helpful for you: https://youtu.be/avAgWeT3BFM

[fathom grove]

I just bought how let loose off g2a and only got the public testing is that normal or did i get ripped iff?

[still vault]

G2A is unofficial. Do not go there for keys.

Steam is the only official distribution platform.

[sweet cliff]

Check your steam library carefully, you should have both.

[dawn widget]

It's there a lfg for consoles

[sweet cliff]

I don't think you can even get keys for just the public test?

[uncut jasper]

You should have both, regardless. There aren't any keys for just the test

[quick bolt]

I feel like marking enemies occludes my own vision of them. Does everyone just mark next to them instead so you can still see them to shoot them?

[still vault]

Proximity mark as rough reference.

[hazy pine]

You dont understand i dont v emblems or any nazi symbols, we have already waffen ss tank crew uniform and lot of waffen ss camo helmets so why not smocks

[still vault]

It may suffice, in the event the most glaringly SS aspects of it can be removed and ignored.

However, depending on the item, this may be difficult to do.

[nimble furnace]

What are Smocks? What purpose are they made for and who gave them such a silly name?

[hazy pine]

Google waffen ss camo smocks

There was many besutiful camos, we already have helmet camos so why not smocks

[warm knot]

smock is just another word for loose fitting shirt

[normal agate]

Video idea: 6 people required. 3 join one team 3 join the other. 6 artillery units in total. Smoke spam a point completely. Make it so that literally the entire circle and surrounding area is just smoke.

Let the horror game commence

I'd love to see just how big of an area can be completely smoked off

[nimble furnace]

Should have called it a Shizzle.🤔

Or Shloosen.🤔

[quick bolt]

It feels like unclickable friendly outposts slightly cover the hitbox for any clickable outposts/garrisons if you're not zoomed in enough. I would think if I'm clicking in that area there's really only one thing I want to click on.

[still vault]

This is true. That is why clicking on the numbered ones on the right exists.

[nimble furnace]

I just click over them all frantically until one of them turns green.

When they’re all bunched together that is.

[dawn widget]

why

[still vault]

Post-2042 and Vanguard and Ubisoft sentiments or something.

[dawn widget]

That's fair. tbh every year is the year of the indie, as long as you can complete a minimally functional and well-designed thing and can live in a cheapish area. I remember reading articles by indie devs in about 2002, and every year since, saying "don't do indie dev it's an absolute nightmare, you will fail, etc etc". na. follow your dreams kids.

[deft trail]

Shame the adjacent tab listing all the clickable spawns do not share a numeric listing with the icons so you have to cycle through them instead being able to see which spawn is number 1 on the map

[nimble furnace]

What’s an indie game?🤔

Independent?🤔

[dawn widget]

Yes, it's a bit blurry, sometimes people use it to refer to a small number of devs, sometimes to larger studios which are nevertheless independent. I'm not sure where the line is.

[unkempt storm]

I believe indie stands for indigenous. jokes

[nimble furnace]

I’m offended

[gloomy grove]

Team17 claim they're indie don't they?

[deft trail]

Listen, it is not anyones place to dispute what someone identifies as

Its how t17 feels inside

Respect that

[gloomy grove]

You're right

I'm sorry

I should be better

[deft trail]

You are better, never forget it

[noble oasis]

usually means that they have a high level of self government

[deft trail]

Strong and indie t17

[nimble furnace]

Hmmm 🤔 I should have put does this mean.

This offends me.

[dawn widget]

like EA?

[noble oasis]

No, ea oversees the activities of other games studios under them and relagate duties to them, on top of responsibilitys they have to uphold to investors/shareholders

[dawn widget]

Hmm I was hoping you wouldn't come back with the shareholders argument. Dammit

[nimble furnace]

EA are just in charge of building the hype and then selling the turd and collecting the monies 💰

[valid coral]

does any1 wanna XP farm on HLL?

[dawn widget]

winner of the best first post award goes to

[ionic jacinth]

Cause every Triple A company is giving players trashy games

Most of them

[nimble furnace]

How mind numbingly boring 🥱… just play the game.

[nimble furnace]

Afking?🤔

Only Nerds Farm for XP.

[nimble furnace]

Nah, life’s too short! Just play the game and have fun.

[unkempt storm]

Fck b*tches build garries am I right

I am totally not srs

[modern rampart]

Nothing more sexually attractive than a squad leader, who builds garries and good OPs

[unkempt storm]

🤤

[modern rampart]

💦 💦 🥵

[unkempt storm]

🍆⬆️

[dawn widget]

🟥🟥🟦🟦
🟥🟥 🟦
🟥🟥🟦🟦
🟥🟥🟦🟦

[nimble furnace]

Garrisons make me horny.🤤

[nimble furnace]

Best place to put a defensive Garry, so many ppl just don’t understand.😔

[sweet cliff]

Nah got to put it 10 meters into the red

[nimble furnace]

Just over the blue line into the red always works!🤪

[sweet cliff]

Or put it deep enough into the red that it's always locked, but also blocks a blue zone garry

[nimble furnace]

Yeah, I always try and put one as close to the enemy as possible, they never suspect a defensive Garry that close.

Can never spawn onto it though!! Must be a bug.😒

[hasty tinsel]

I hate when you place it one meter into the red 😣

[nimble furnace]

Sarcasm

[unkempt storm]

Place it bby

[deft trail]

Got to be master troll, no one is that dumb

Hll players: hold my beer

[nimble furnace]

65IQ Trolls make me laugh 😂

[hardy birch]

"Sugar 50 this is hotdog 7"

[nimble furnace]

🌭

[deft trail]

🦮

[unkempt storm]

♨️ 🐶

[harsh plinth]

Aloha.

Whats the 411?

[unkempt storm]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-its-gon-rain-weather-report-gif-5516318

[tepid mist]

So with HLL being bought by t17, is blackmatter still developing all the previously planned stuff for it? Anyone know

[sweet cliff]

They're developing for 18 months at least, beyond that is a question mark, that should give us everything on the 2021/2022 roadmap since 18 months is past 2022, with some slop for over run, but nobody really knows.

[autumn rose]

can't wait for the next 40 HLL games

[limpid bridge]

Finally, I unlocked G43 on Axis Rifleman

[nimble furnace]

Success!!

[radiant wing]

it says how dog 7

[unkempt storm]

❔🐶7️⃣

[normal pike]

🌭

[nimble furnace]

Where’s the tomato sauce?

[deft trail]

You eat hotdogs with tomato sauce?

Hm, nvm chili is made from tomato sauce

[nimble furnace]

I’d eat it with that too… just mustard is weird.

[main bough]

Kraut, Onions, and Brown Mustard - only way

[nimble furnace]

Oh yeah, onions is a must.

😋

[severe tusk]

Someone say Sauce?

[pale tree]

guys

quick question

is panther removed form the game?

[main bough]

Yes. It should be making a triumphant return at some point. They are re-doing it.

[still moon]

For anyone interested in playing Recon, check out my new video guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r48bva25Qu8

[rose epoch]

Hey folks. I was looking for a guide on how best to hide the map while streaming via OBS. I found this from a couple years back, but was wondering if there was anything more current? https://www.reddit.com/r/HellLetLoose/comments/gyzg3x/streamers_i_wrote_a_script_to_automatically_hide/

[sweet cliff]

I don't use an overlay but I believe what you do is set the hotkey to trigger your overlay to the same as what you use to bring up the map

So they appear and disappear at the same time

[tepid mist]

is that all the stretch goals that were pledged too? Ie. Japan, britain etc

[sweet cliff]

Nobody knows.

Well nobody who is allowed or willing to say knows.

If I was to speculate, content will continue as long as it is profitable.

[glad pasture]

2 Unannounced Western Front Maps currently in development
British forces - including 2 Operation Market Garden Maps
Canadian forces - including 2 Falaise Pocket Maps
Japanese forces - including 2 Pacific Theatre Maps
Several NEW maps will be added to each of the above theatres and are in development now.

[hushed condor]

How will Canadians and Brits be different I wonder?

[verbal sigil]

I don't see this as realistic. The recent announcement implies BM will cease work on HLL in the middle of 2023. To introduce 3 new factions and accompanying weapons, maps, vehicles, and cosmetics seems like a big reach given BM's productivity/output thus far. I think 1 new faction/expansion per year will be the case. Love to be wrong (so that's British this year and a half-faction or possibly full faction before BM closes up work on HLL in 2023)

not to mention all of the other non-faction materials on that roadmap

that's a lot of work

[sweet cliff]

18 months is the current time line, who knows what T17 does after that, maybe they spend 18 months getting their team spun up and knowledge transferred from the current guys.

[modern rampart]

Keep in mind that a potential Pacific expansion coming after more Eastern Front and British/Commonwealth content might work as a standalone expansion like Rising Storm 1 did,.

[modern rampart]

The end of the 18 month contract does not necessarily mean that updates for HLL will cease to be. They could have a new team working on further updates or extend the contract, if needed, I'd assume.

[sweet cliff]

That would actually be a great way to do it if we have to pay for it, doesn't split the player base in the same way as if it's in the same game and people are getting dumped out at map swap, but it would of course still divide the player base still.

There's no good way to do it for any content besides cosmetics.

[unkempt storm]

HLL: Portal DLC, Japan vs. Soviets

[modern rampart]

don't even go there, Drew

[unkempt storm]

I said what I said

[muted monolith]

One of these two speaks mainly in French

[modern rampart]

Actually now that I think of it. They could have Soviet vs. Japan maps.

in a historical set up as well

[uncut wolf]

Neither speak mainly in french (except for really one province and some areas of others)

[modern rampart]

you are actually a genius, Drew. Never should have doubted you

[muted monolith]

Fun killer

[unkempt storm]

mongolia? ehhhhh

[modern rampart]

not Khalkin Gol. Thinking of the invasion of around Manchuria, towards the end of the war.

[unkempt storm]

you're welcome for this

[sweet cliff]

Excellent point re: Manchuria

But you run into the same balancing problems as vs the US, what the hell kind of Japanese tank is going to go up against a T-34

[unkempt storm]

it needs some development

[sweet cliff]

Unless they want to make the Japanese totally different than other factions, which could be cool but right now for the most part everything works roughly the same which helps with the player base knowing how to play, especially less experienced people.

[unkempt storm]

but I want to dig tunnels.................

no tunnels, no drew

think minecraft

[sweet cliff]

If the Japanese had robust AT capability then if they have junk tanks it's less impactful.

[deft trail]

Yea pacific theater prob gonna be a modified game mode

Japan really banked on the fact that they could stave the US counterattack with a navy

[eternal palm]

Anyone know what makes the Russian arty different from US/Ger? I was thinking maybe a difference in metric/imperial systems, but the US and German ranging would be different if that were the case.

[formal tiger]

Russian math I've heard is plotted out differently

But idk if thats true

Could make sense if it were true though

[tender prism]

if we do get a pacific I hope we get Peleliu

[manic thorn]

Peleliu landing and Peleliu airfield would be awesome

[still vault]

Hell Let Loose: Little Resistance and Hard Landing update.

[nimble furnace]

Iwo Jima 😃

[gloomy grove]

It's true. The equation I derived out of it is different.

Russian arty also changes elevation faster

[cloud yoke]

This game is HARD

[sweet cliff]

Are there particular aspects of it that you're struggling with that maybe we could help with?

[slim fractal]

@cerulean moat test

Hey <@&365680483276816385>s, when are you letting new players in #mess-hall & #pc-feedback? You have kept them locked them down here for 6 months already.

[ionic osprey]

The new member discord roles and channels wasn't our change

[unkempt storm]

It was mine

[ionic osprey]

Not sure if there is ever plans to change it but it could be something to bring up

[slim fractal]

Well I can't ping devs so you are here.

Plus only person I've seen it commenting is JAGUAR.

Oh those messages are erased? Used to be pinned in this channel 🕵️

Ah found it.

NEW Members who have recently joined HLL discord are automatically placed in BOOT CAMP. After a probationary period determined by Dev’s MAX & SPONO they will be allowed access to the Supporters_mess_hall .

[ionic osprey]

Hopefully this will still be taking place

[slim fractal]

Isn't 6 months pretty standard probationary period? At least in Finland it's maximum that can be for jobs.

[deft trail]

Its to prevent troll alts from infiltrating the community

[sweet cliff]

I really doubt that, if anything it's to filter out incredibly salty old people from the new ones.

Or a bit of both.

There are, or at least were people that would show up here every day to complain about and criticize a game they don't even play.

[slim fractal]

Discord has amazing authorisation methods to filter any alts, if they are afraid of that.

[deft trail]

Interesting 🤔

[nimble furnace]

😅 so true.

Reddit Dweebs! They’re called.

[sick gyro]

Is there any information regarding New Commander Abilities? Will commending multiple units/players be possible by this point? Cheers.

[glad pasture]

We currently have no official information re the “New Commander Abilities” as seen in the 2021 /2022 RoadMap for Hell Let Loose. No doubt we will receive an update from the Dev team in due course.

[summer panther]

Just a query, once console content has caught up with pc, do you know if the devs will release content at the same time for both or will there still be a delay?

[sweet cliff]

They confirmed in a reddit post somewhere that that is their goal, parity with content releases between PC and console.

[deft trail]

PC players will likely be guinea pigs for updates

Prob a 2 week offset

[sweet cliff]

That's a weird way to say getting content first which is a good thing.

Oh you mean some sort of short delay not the current updates.

[deft trail]

2 week to a month

[sweet cliff]

https://old.reddit.com/r/HellLetLoose/comments/riiml7/presenting_the_2022_console_roadmap/hoxqc0u/

[deft trail]

A day later and im still thinking about tossing dogs on the grill , maybe this weekend

[normal pike]

Great, now I am hungry

[deft trail]

Damn that delicious looking emoji

[normal pike]

😆

[dawn widget]

New Commander Abilities
heroes wen 😢 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/686810/view/3021326929185032774

[nimble furnace]

They never put Hitler on the menu, but thought Stalin was a good person.🤨

Both were Evil.

[spiral compass]

Look up Holodomor

[nimble furnace]

Yep, heard about that.

It’s estimated that he killed over 9 million of his own people.

Probably way more.

[spiral compass]

Yup

[nimble furnace]

Watch “The death of Stalin” on Netflix 😂 funny stuff.

[zealous phoenix]

Will the Russian stuff come out on xbox?

[glad pasture]

Yes soon

[zealous phoenix]

When is soon, I want my mosin

[glad pasture]

🤔

[zealous phoenix]

Muh PU Mosin

[deft trail]

If youre gonna do a joke, go all the way

Spare no feelings

Also stalin is no hero, he just soaks up the credit, at least hitler got a few fluke victories

Where is zhukov and konev

[nimble furnace]

Wasn’t a joke.

[deft trail]

The april fools heroes

Was what i mean

They did that joke but excluded hitler

[nimble furnace]

I didn’t get on to that hahaha 🤣

April fool me.

[deft trail]

They got you good

[nimble furnace]

Only because it was only now that I looked at it, I would have got onto it on 1st April.😊

They should’ve had football managers on it instead.😅

[summer panther]

Oh cool thanks

[deft trail]

John madden presents: hell let loose, any given sunday

[nimble furnace]

Juergen Klopp, sending a bombing run onto Kursk. 💣

[deft trail]

:0

[cinder sonnet]

pogged out rn

an invisible amount of XP from grinding a level 9 assault

[cinder sonnet]

jesus the grease gun is inaccurate

[deft trail]

That bouncing ring sight really helps doesnt it

[gritty heath]

just gotta learn how to use it. 😉

[deft trail]

Are you grinding by kills or by resource nodes?

[cinder sonnet]

both

im always on that grind

nodes definitely help, i try to pop in as an engineer and set them up, but i can get easily get 1.9k exp every round, 3-3.5 with nodes

[deft trail]

Sounds about right

Im halfway on 8 but i stopped for a bit

[peak blade]

It’s takes so long to get it even when using the node strategy lol

And I mean before the nodes disappeared a while after placing them (now you can’t switch back to assault before they disappear) Can’t imagine grinding right now

[unkempt storm]

🤨

[cinder sonnet]

what

they stay forever and you can definitely switch to assault

[unkempt storm]

Be drunk

[sweet cliff]

You can even switch teams and they stick around and you still get xp

[unkempt storm]

What if you place another set as the other team

[sweet cliff]

You get double

[unkempt storm]

This man’s LYING but actually?

[cinder sonnet]

Wait hold up that's potentially genius

But from a logical perspective, it should subtract those points you earn for the enemy team as you're working against yourself

[sweet cliff]

It's just how the XP system works.

[quick bolt]

Is there any way to tell if it's Offense or Warfare without hitting Tab?

Ah someone mentioned that in Offense the objectives are numbered in the 'T' overlay

[still vault]

The Server Browser listing.

The Objectives in Offensive on the Tac Overlay are presented in stages denoted by Roman numerals. The Objectives in Warfare's Overlay are presented in the form of Node icon multipliers.

[sweet cliff]

You can also tell by looking at the map.

If only one point is unlocked it's offensive.

[wet wedge]

This game seems so fun but every squad I join is totally silent

[peak blade]

Hol up the nodes don’t disappear now? Haven’t had to grind anymore lol

[cedar talon]

Always experienced people speaking, if not at the very least one person, in squads. On PC.

[unkempt storm]

Noooooo sir-wee, only if the sectors lost

[nimble furnace]

Always place them at the edge of one of the 3 sectors that can change during match.🧐

[lament girder]

I find it’s mostly silent but if I just start jabbering away then some people come out of their shell and I’ve had some great games off hunting garrisons with a squad. Also look on the map for a SL with outposts down and blue dots around them moving together, obvious to say but this has worked for me

[deft trail]

You can build them in the home sector now just drop supplies at the edge of the 2nd sector

[unkempt storm]

I’m assuming this was a playful joke ☺️

[deft trail]

Oh

He got me good

[errant sequoia]

https://discord.com/channels/@me/881321327515029594/931263254154584167

flair confirm, ignore

[dawn widget]

what are the recommended settings for a medium pc

[deft trail]

What is a medium pc

[dawn widget]

i have a laptop with i7-9750H rtx 2060 and 16 gb ram

and i dont know what settings to use

[deft trail]

You should be able to run everything on epic

But turn down shadows and turn of ssao should alleviate much frame lag

You should be getting around 60 fps

On 1080p

If you raise your resolution it might go down some

[nimble furnace]

Nah! Watch this and have your settings the same… I get over 150/170 1080p 144hz https://youtu.be/5HQ6JXgIROw

[deft trail]

Launching your game in -dx12 helps

[nimble furnace]

Yep

Run Both game and Steam in administration mode too.

[sweet cliff]

Really depends what resolution you're trying to drive, give settings a shot and reduce as needed, CPU heavy game as I understand it.

[nimble furnace]

Yes, I’ve noticed that my GPU never goes above 70% on MSI Aftrerburner.

[sweet cliff]

So if you also record or stream or using something like shadowplay that does CPU encoding that'll make a difference too

[dawn widget]

when i use -dx12 in setlaunch my game said the gpu crash or something

[deft trail]

Undo that setting and just play normally then

[dawn widget]

ok thanks alot guys ❤️

[velvet glen]

other than the obvious name, what is the difference between the game types, e.g attack/defend/warfare

[peak veldt]

Offensive - one side attacks & the other defends, objective by objective, with no ability to retake once you’ve lost.

Warfare - each side can capture or lose all objectives, which provides a more fluid and changing game.

[velvet glen]

thanks. Thats really helpful.

[peak veldt]

No worries mate, welcome to HLL

[nimble furnace]

Also, It’s not like conquest on battlefield. It’s more like frontlines in BF1🧐

On Warefare

One sector at a time.

You lose it, you gain it back.

[still vault]

Offensive is akin to Territories from Red Orchestra 2, Rising Storm, and Rising Storm 2. Breakthrough would be the closest Battlefield/WW3 example.

Warfare is Supremacy, but without layers of multiple central linked objectives. Offworld Industries game modes are closer in comparison.

[bitter sable]

No matter how good I think I've gotten in this game, Offensive Omaha will always be my Achilles Heel

And it doesn't matter if I'm GER or US. That map is always a walking death simulator.

[still vault]

Omaha has a blend of cover with sightlines that may be difficult to work with, alongside flanking tactics that may be found out easily.

[bitter sable]

Last night. We had four garries around the first strong point. All got locked out.

We had to go all the way back to the beach and endure another 12 minutes of hell.

Out of 230 hours, that was the worst experience I've ever had. I don't mean in a the game sucks way. Just Jesus Christ, we got spanked.

Props to that German team though. They had immaculate defense.

[coral herald]

Recruiting Players Now
The Bunker Gaming Community are recruiting players now for matches lined up for the new year. The Bunker already have an established low ping European server full every day form 18:00 till late, and have a few matches under their belt. if you would like to get involved please feel free to join the server anytime it can be found in the server list just by typing The Bunker in to the server search section, or by join in the discord here at https://discord.gg/CXyy464bHe
when you get on the discord just say Doyle sent you and I hope to see you on there soon.
thanks.

[gloomy grove]

You'll never get out

[gloomy grove]

#pc-divisions-recruitment and not here

Definitely recommend more full stops in your recruitment post as well

Two is very much not enough

[austere thistle]

My fps is so low.. idk what to do

[still vault]

Post specs.

[austere thistle]

Im on a laptop i7-9750H RTX 2060 6GB , 16Gb ram 2667mhz windows 10 pro

i posted yestarday aswell

and some guys gave me some tips

but the game still runs like hell..

[deft trail]

Make sure your battery setting is on max power

Even if youre plugged in

[austere thistle]

it is

i think

how do i check that

[hexed shore]

Power preference options

[austere thistle]

its on better performance

[nimble furnace]

Slide it to the right

[austere thistle]

same thing..

no difference

45 fps

sometimes goin lower

sometimes i have 65 70

but its not stable

and my fps is stuck at 60

in menu aswell

vsync is off

[hexed shore]

You’re getting 60 FPS on a laptop that’s pretty solid lol

[austere thistle]

i used -dx12

now fps is good

in setlaunch

[deft trail]

Bm / t17 should hire me to hardware troubleshoot their players

Ill take free games/dlcs as payments

[gusty salmon]

anyone down to make a squad?

[river brook]

What do you mean with make a squad?

[nimble furnace]

Join and play the game as a squad 🤔

[river brook]

hell yes

pc?:)

[meager wind]

You cant mate, you have to join a server and create a squad

[nimble furnace]

I know, join the game and join a squad together.

[meager wind]

Oh sorry bud, thought you were asking the question.. ignore me 🙂

[brisk grove]

You don’t have to join a game to make a squad

[turbid onyx]

Is medic worth playing?

[sweet cliff]

Do you mean impacts the team meaningfully or is fun to play?

[turbid onyx]

Team impact like is it actually useful?

[sweet cliff]

I don't think it's a very useful class outside of some niche scenarios but it's a contentious topic.

[sweet cliff]

Medics are more important when your team has bad spawns, spawns are more important than medics, especially because medics don't fix headshots explosion or shotgun deaths.

[sweet cliff]

Spawns let you change classes, change where you are on the map and refresh ammo.

[sweet cliff]

Can we not spam gifs in here please.

[thorny hemlock]

Gifs?

Excuse me?

I hunt for this gold and you call them free GIFs, I am terribly hurt

[turbid onyx]

Also what maps are the easiest for beginners? Some of my friend's are gonna get the game so just want to know what maps would be good for them when there starting off

[sweet cliff]

Anyway medic isn't awful if other important roles are filled like AT, but they don't get much ammo and if you have decent spawns you get more uptime out of people respawning.

[sweet cliff]

And uptime matters for cap weight, spawn protection and pushing their spawns.

Buddy please, this is for new people to ask questions, not meme spam.

And situationally medic can be good for non medic reasons like the level 3 loadout gets you 4 smokes, but there's also rifleman roles that get smokes so who knows.

But if you have fun playing medic just have fun playing medic, medic really shines when your SL needs to get a further away OP up, or on offensive when you're defending and have say a fortified barn people are defending out of.

[sweet cliff]

Would stay away from Kursk or attacking on the beach offensive maps, some maps are less popular than others because there are choke points or lots of open ground like PHL or Foy.

[still vault]

And in PHL's case, many streams that can only be crossed with sprintjump timing.

[thorny hemlock]

Ikr

Yessir

[turbid onyx]

Was thinking of maybe trying to stick to more urban maps? Also will avoid forest maps as they are rather tricky to play and boring at times

[modern rampart]

"Future military history professor."

yeah nah.

[thorny hemlock]

What's wrong with Legos?

Please tell me.

It's not just dumb shit for 3 year olds, there is a whole nother side

Yeah well, nothing else intrests me

[tall orchid]

who out here arguing with a 7th grader

goddamn y’all

[thorny hemlock]

And it's the only thing that am I actually better then other people at

Besides making egg

Lol

[modern rampart]

nevermind.

[thorny hemlock]

And I need to know shit if I want to be a military history professor, which I do

Never said that

I know

I am interested in Vietnam, war on terror and Falklands too

I just don't find any interest in Napoleonic

N stuff

?

Working on it

I mean, I have one good friend that I chill with everyday, but hes also a nerd

So yeah

Need to find some normal friends

But all the boys in my school just care about sports

And I really don't give a crap

Okay, your opinion

Anyways

I'm gonna go

[modern rampart]

this is a troll

[tall orchid]

good luck with the lockers

[modern rampart]

calling it.

[thorny hemlock]

?

[tall orchid]

just hope the ones you're getting stuffed into are big enough to fit you comfortably

[modern rampart]

#new-recruit-barracks message

[tall orchid]

lol come onnnn

[thorny hemlock]

I mean, I have a lot of sorta friends, and people like me just not people that I actually hang out with. Im also not your typical nerd, I'm okay popular and am bigger than most boys in my grade

So think before you speak buddy boy

[tall orchid]

oh yeah, definite troll

[thorny hemlock]

Nope

[thorny hemlock]

When you say "troll" do you mean I am younger or older than I said I was?

You typing a frikin book?

[modern rampart]

I thought you wanted to become a military historian. You should get used to it sooner rather than later.

[tall orchid]

i mean you ruined the act when you wrote all that "typical nerd" "most boys in my grade" "buddy boy" shit

[thorny hemlock]

History professor, not historian

[tall orchid]

playing god of war so i'm splitting my attention

[thorny hemlock]

Okay, but that's not my point

I just want to know out of curiosity

Do you think I'm below or above 14?

[modern rampart]

Tf do you think professors do

[thorny hemlock]

Teach college kids.

[modern rampart]

And what else?

[thorny hemlock]

?

[tall orchid]

older. you're a caricature of a 14 year old, not an actual 14 year old

[thorny hemlock]

😆 Im 13

LOL

This was fun

But I'ma go now

[tall orchid]

thats even worse, somehow

[modern rampart]

"Lol I le ebic trolled you so hard"

[thorny hemlock]

I sorta did though

Gotta admit

[modern rampart]

nah

[thorny hemlock]

It was pretty good

[modern rampart]

was pretty obvious after like 3 sentences

[thorny hemlock]

Yuh-huh. Sureeee

No, I'm just dropping the act

I was waiting for the dude to answer me

I honestly did not expect him to say older

Okay, now for the final time

Good day, folks.

[deft trail]

Im calling the cops

[sweet cliff]

Would love to see memes and gifs and shit banned in here and moved to #off-topic-mess-hall or something so new players don't have to try to sift through a pile of shit.

[uncut jasper]

It's a pile of shit anyway wym

[sweet cliff]

Be the change you want to see in the world, and #mess-hall is more of that I think typically, this room is quieter and new players show up regularly with questions.

[young zodiac]

You guys enjoy the chat with the 13 year old war monger

[turbid onyx]

How much experience shpuld I have before jumping into squad leader? Just wondering as I do now feel like I understand the game better now and playing much better then I was before. I've got 25 hours in and can get 20 kills or so in most of my games

[unkempt storm]

Won’t know until you try. Biggest thing is you have to be thinking of routes to take, perhaps different routes than everyone else, where might you want to observe or get a garry up, do you have enough garrys up? What can you personally do to make your team be in a better position. Be prepared to listen to commander as well. No amount of hours or kills makes you ready, more so about initiative.

[deft trail]

As squad leader, you have to understand the importance of building garrisons, garrison placement, outpost placement and timing, cap race ( when to be on defense and when to be on offense) , how to defend, how to attack, anti-tank strategy. Map reading, map marking, artillery callins

[unkempt storm]

Well done team drew

[deft trail]

🙏

The game meta really does not make taking officer an easy job

[muted monolith]

no commander for 5 minutes -> pick commander -> everyone flames ♻️

[deft trail]

Theyre dumb, welcome to hll

And yes this exact behavior is quite common

No one want to take commander but they will complain the minute someone takes command and things dont go their way

[muted monolith]

preach

smh its worse than zoom meetings in some cases

[deft trail]

Imagine being in the feedback team and reading their complaints

[unkempt storm]

You have no authority here jackie weaver, no authority at all

[deft trail]

Do i?

[muted monolith]

how can i ban server so it never shows on my lobby list

[deft trail]

You can set a list of favorites and then select favorites tab

Unfortunately you cannot blacklist servers

[deft trail]

^

[rare forum]

As long as you can and will communicate with your squad and actually lead them, jump in as squad lead. Any mechanics of the game issues you may have will be helped by veterans as long as you are openly communicating with your squad.

[sweet cliff]

Biggest thing as SL is OP uptime and working towards building/maintaining garrisons as a team effort, that includes the squad, if people won't play the objective or won't change to support as needed don't feel bad about removing people from the squad.

Nobody needs to play support the entire round but you should be willing to swap classes, drop a box and swap back. When placing garrisons pull up the map and try to be cognizant of the sector lines, don't be building garrisons 5 meters into the red zone for instance, that will not only frequently be locked but block other, better garrisons.

and also pay attention to the map, if an objective is being capped you should be aware and especially when it's your own, so many games are lost because you start losing an objective that is still easily defendable and while you still have all of the spawns up in that sector, people mindlessly attack, the sector/spawns are lost and then people start to attack the objective you just lost while the next is being capped, repeat to 5-0

[nimble furnace]

😊 this council meeting is adjourned!

Do you know who I am?… who are you?… Ronnie Pickering!!

[unkempt storm]

I am dead 😂

[nimble furnace]

The Chicken of Bristol 🐔

[velvet glen]

i totally see why people dont play SL, just had the worst experience at trying to be a SL and the commander being an obsolute idiot

[glad turtle]

We just need a mute button to switch off command chat if needed. That would make it a lot more bearable at times.

[nimble furnace]

And, maybe having the squad chat in the left headphone and command chat in the right would be better.🤔

Would be easier to differentiate the two.

[sweet cliff]

Would love all that stuff but we're stuck with vivox and whatever limitations that entails.

[nimble furnace]

☹️

[deft trail]

Vivox not that bad

[nimble furnace]

Local chat makes this and any game much more immersive and fun.

[sweet cliff]

It's not whether or not vivox is good or bad, it's that they've said they're not replacing it and vivox has some limitations, so that's just how it is. If vivox can't or doesn't for performance reasons, support things like volume sliders then it isn't happening.

[terse lava]

Hey all! Im knew here, and boy oh boy am I excited!

[still vault]

Meanwhile in Rising Storm 2.

[sweet cliff]

Yeah I obviously don't know the particulars, it's just what Jambax has talked about in the past

[next lava]

What if I told you... that console has that feature... volume sliders for each VoIP channel

[sweet cliff]

Also it's 64 max in RS2 yeah? I forget how voice chat works in that game but fewer players means more bandwidth

Yeah but we have server browser and community servers, advantage: PC

[next lava]

Hopefully the "console/PC" parity on the roadmap works both ways, and PC get that feature also

[next lava]

No need to rub it in 😂

But more seriously, I also see PC players complain about lack of partys and matchmaking

I think both platforms need both options.

[still vault]

64 slots maximum for the server. Nominal client-side bandwidth for Vivox is 192 Kbps before compression.

Bandwidth is largely the same. Server Tickrate is rather low by default, but can be set higher.

The Vivox implementation, however, is notoriously broken, inconsistent, and requires heavy end-user setup in order to even hope to be seamless.

Tripwire maintains that the faults are a Vivox backend issue, when it had ripped out Steam VoIP to replace ot with the service, then managed to make it even more unstable and inconsistent in the final major patch before End of Life.

[still vault]

This stems from being exposed to games with matchmaking and desiring such seamlessness.

The Hell Let Loose Queuing system leads to desire of it just to get into a damned match faster and up-front, as opposed to first selecting a server and then having to wait in a mandatory queue.

[sweet cliff]

Console shots were fired! :V

My God yeah I forgot about when RS2 changed VOIP, I used to get audio from the entirely wrong tame

[next lava]

Fair enough, this game does reward patience, right from the server browser, to defending the last point.

[still vault]

We still do, and players from the other team have a chance of hearing us.

And players are prevented from seamlessly speaking in the voice chat unless one forces Windows to only use one microphone device.

[sweet cliff]

I haven't played RS2 in over a year but I think I hit about 900 hours in it.

[still vault]

After Patch 1.6, there is a chance of hearing players in other matches, too.

The Rice Fields have transcended into parallel universes.

PTSD Eternal.

[sweet cliff]

Happened when the game launched on Epic yeah?

[still vault]

More like Tripwire likely deciding to forcibly port it to EGS for that moolah and EGS free game promotions.

[sweet cliff]

Well fair, but yeah it was terrible when they fucked voice.

[still vault]

Of course it was.

[low star]

Yo lads. I wanted to get some more info on the Engineer role, since I quite didn't get how it works, so I watched a few vids.
In one of them I heard that if you go Engineer and make the resource nodes, you get experience to your role every X minutes.
So can I, for example, go Engineer at the beginning of the match, go to the 2nd if not middle point, build the resource nodes and afterwards switch to a role that needs xp and get the xp ticks on that new role?

[still vault]

It seems to be that way, yes. The XP persists across roles and counts for your current role, so long as they are still up.

[low star]

And as I understand, you get more resources the deeper in the map you build them?

But if the enemy takes over the sector, they get automatically destroyed

[cinder sonnet]

yes, it's a risk/reward tradeoff

[still vault]

The proximity to the frontlines multiplier may have been disproven. However, certain roles whom pass within a certain radius to the node will get a multiplier on things placed around it, such as ammo boxes and medkits.

The aim may have been to build nodes like Garrisons.

[sweet cliff]

No, it's +10/node no matter what sector you build them in as of U10.

You can even build them in HQ during warmup if you can get supports to drop supplies.

Another common tactic is to get a truck, drop the supplies just past the 2nd line as soon as you can with the truck, and build the nodes back behind the line they won't ever be lost due to sector loss except if the game is over.

But yes the munitions node will recharge droppable ammo boxes (maybe the medic crate too? who knows) 50% faster (5 min -> 2.5 min) and the manpower node will cut the recharge time on supplies from 5 -> 2.5

[sweet cliff]

You guys are champs.

[velvet glen]

my understanding is that you also get XP for footfall through thezone of influence of your node, which is why they are placed near garrisons, is that right>

[gloomy grove]

I don't believe you gain any experience through the use of the passive node effect being used. You only gain XP by the resources they generate, i.e. 10xp per minute per node, in line with the flat resource generation. They're commonly placed near garrisons as there can often be spare supplies laying around them. For instance if commander drops 100 supplies, and 50 are used for a garrison, you still have enough for a node. Supplies from a supply truck provides a garrison + 2 nodes.

[velvet glen]

how can i work out where i am getting shot from, i never seem to be able to to hear in my headphones from which direction shots are coming in

[deft trail]

Its disturbing how few people ask for advice here 😦

Or on steam for that matter

[uncut flame]

The physical quality of your headphones, soundcard or sound settings may be limiting you.

But once you've been hit (if you don't die 1-shot) you'll see a red semi-circle in the middle of your screen. That'll give you a direction indication.

[nimble furnace]

7.1 Surround Sound Headphones are a must for PC Gaming.

[deft trail]

6 dollar walmart earbuds

😏

[unkempt storm]

Why stop at 7.1, 27.8 surround sound is the best

[nimble furnace]

Hmmm 🤔 that’s a new one. Haven’t heard of it before.

[unkempt storm]

164.3 SURROUND SOUND

[nimble furnace]

Hmmmmmmm 🤔

[unkempt storm]

243.9 SURROUND SOUND

i can do this all day

Many numbers out there

[nimble furnace]

You can’t go any higher than 360.1 😊

[deft trail]

Does anyone sport that metal armor for the russian side?

[tall orchid]

always

cape for spotter/sniper, armor for infantry

[mellow sierra]

Anyone down to play

[deft trail]

Does anyone notice a trend of good players taking axis on every russian maps?

Everytime i land on eastern front map, the good players always take axis

[gloomy grove]

Because the Soviets are at a map disadvantage for armour squads

[sweet cliff]

Cape for anything I've unlocked it for, and ninja turtle armor otherwise

I think the Soviets have the advantage on Kursk now that they can build U11 AT guns, you can have a gun up at any of the HQs before any armor can crest the hill so it makes camping Soviet spawns a lot harder.

[nimble furnace]

Interesting 🧐

[unkempt storm]

then thats what i have

[sweet cliff]

The Germans can build AT guns in HQ but the Soviets have a less obstructed view which was a downside in U10 but I think an advantage in U11 since you can build the guns mostly anywhere and the HQ spawns are fast and reliable.

It even let's you try solo since you can role swap which isn't viable if you were trying to do it hundreds of meters out of HQ

[cinder sonnet]

I wish the Russians weren't fucking boring

Half the classes are literally the same thing

[deft trail]

🤔

[cinder sonnet]

They need to give them more weapons, PPSH and boltie gets tiring fast

[deft trail]

Authenticity tho

[cinder sonnet]

I don't know if it's just me but the nagant feels weaker than the German one

I hit people and they don't die

[deft trail]

The bolt action?

[cinder sonnet]

Yeah

[deft trail]

It def sounds weaker

And the sights are terrible

I normally just pick the svt40 because its readily available

But if i remember correctly i still get kills from the bolt action

The animation just feels wonky and the gun sounds weak

[sweet cliff]

Would be cool to see the AVT-40 get added to where appropriate (probably AR/MG to line it up with the BAR?)

But realistically what weapons could they even add for the Soviets (ignoring lend lease stuff) except for say the PPS-43

Without getting into BF1 territory where damn near every weapon is some museum piece or one off prototype

[deft trail]

Fuggit give them the federov automat

[turbid onyx]

Two questions! One: should I use the ppsh as a smg or does it have abit more range than the other smgs and can be used with small bursts at meduim range. Two: I struggle with Foy. I'm starting ro get to grips with this game and can do decently in most games (can get 20 kills in a full match pretty consistently). I find that Foy is just very open so its extremely hard to traverse without being shot. With foy should I just be trying to find a good spot to get some kills and then slowly move in with my team?

[sweet cliff]

Kills are a means to an end, they don't inherently win the game, I'd be less concerned with kills and more concerned with capturing or defending territory.

But Foy is a rough one with all that open ground.

[sweet cliff]

Also regarding the PPSh, it's either that as an SMG or no other SMG as Soviets so I don't understand the question

[turbid onyx]

Yeah when I say I got 20 kills I wa going for the objective the for the whole time. So with foy is it best to slowly push in and be patient?

[sweet cliff]

If you can cap the mid point at the start of the game you can win just by holding it and defending on Foy is a lot easier than pushing, but it depends on the objective I think, to me Southern Edge paradoxically feels both difficult to attack and to hold.

But on any open map like that with no real visual concealment for large portions and with a uniform that stands out on the snow you need armor, arty (both he/smoke) and good spawns.

[turbid onyx]

What is the range on the ppsh like? Can you take fights at meduim range or is just a close range weapon like the rest of the smgs?

[sweet cliff]

Pretty subjective, I have an easier time shooting things at distance with the MP-40 I think, on Kursk given the option I'd take the SVT over the ppsh every time, but that's a personal thing.

[turbid onyx]

Yeah you can't get away with going prone because of that

[turbid onyx]

What classes have the SVT?

[sweet cliff]

Shoot I'm not sure off the top of my head, SL and support? Not sure what else.

[turbid onyx]

Will check tomorrow. Thanks for your help!

[sweet cliff]

The SVT is awesome, the PPSh does some bonkers suppression though so even if you aren't directly hitting them you can be preventing them from shooting you.

[next oasis]

ppsh does things just as well as any other gun. Functionally, it's an MG42 you can run around with
https://streamable.com/b5phji

[still vault]

Prone when MG. Do not move. Make the MG believe you are dead.

[novel verge]

Glauser forsure

[deft trail]

👀

But mock tho

[random pecan]

Yes, @deft trail. It is because the factions are fundamentally imbalanced in favour of Germany. None of the experienced players want to lose so they play Germany. It is known as Staxis - and it is terrible for the community. The solution is map and weapon balance.

[sweet cliff]

the 76 is the best tank in the game.

[random pecan]

That would balance the StG.

[random pecan]

@next oasis Not as well as the StG at medium and long range. The StG is OP and the Russians have no counter. That is not to mention the MG42 vs DP, lol.

[warm knot]

"russians have no counter"

everything kills super quick in HLL, take your pick of weapon

[still vault]

You cannot convince him that the Staxis phenomenon can be mitigated against.

[olive hound]

why didnt hell let loose make medic crosses red and a helemt for medics

[unkempt storm]

Any unauthorized iteration of a red cross for anything health or medically related is internationally prohibited - though I can't answer for the helmet.

[next lava]

There is an unlockable medic helmet.

[little pier]

yo

[peak veldt]

Yo

[warped hearth]

Yo

[lilac bloom]

Yo

[dawn widget]

Yo

[novel verge]

How do you get the summer and winter DLC?

I figured January would still count as winter..?

Is it like only the month if June and December?

[unkempt storm]

They haven’t really followed a regular timing for release, if not available you’ll just have to wait until next season, whenever they deem that to be 🤷‍♂️

[novel verge]

I really only want that like head scarf lol

Make my pale face less noticeable

[unkempt storm]

slowly nods 😢

[tall orchid]

i waited a wholeass year to get the winter dlc

[random pecan]

@warm knot the Russians have no rapid fire automatic gun that kills in 1 hit that doesn't have to be deployed first. What I wrote is true - the Russians have no counter to the StG 44 in the game and that is not balanced. This is a game, and games are balanced. Balance is fun. Imbalance is not.

[modern rampart]

Staxis does not exist in HLL.

[random pecan]

Lol, yes it does.

[modern rampart]

The game isn't unbalanced at all. At least not in infantry terms.

no, it doesn't.

[random pecan]

The Eastern front is clearly imbalanced.

[modern rampart]

lol

no

Soviets and Germans win about the same amount of matches

[next oasis]

I've not noticed unbalance between factions, not in terms of their arsenal.

[modern rampart]

That's because there is no unbalance. Giving the Soviets an AVT or the Fedorov Avtomat would not change anything except make the loadouts even more screwed up

in terms of accuracy of equipment

neither the AVT nor the Fedorov were used in significant numbers

[random pecan]

Don't give me the accuracy of equipment argument. Germany was not running around with 1/6 of players with StG 44s at Stalingrad.

[next oasis]

the game is at the point where arsenal wouldn't be a significant determiner anyway. The games not much about combatting anyway (unfortunately)

[modern rampart]

Yes and let's not make it worse by adding what you suggested.

[random pecan]

lol, what rubbish is this? This game resolves aroung killing the enemy.

[random pecan]

Then lets remove the StG 44 from the Eastern front. Agreed!

[modern rampart]

Yeah, hard agree actually.

Remove it on the current maps actually, no harm adding it for late war maps on the Eastern Front

it's previously been suggested that German AR should get a vz.26 instead of the STG

then again...even with the inaccuracy of Germans having an STG...it does not lopside matches on Stalingrad or Kursk

therefore the imbalance argument is moot.

it's mainly a question of historical accuracy

[balmy sundial]

i support getting rid of the stg

[random pecan]

Well Kursk is fundamentally German biased because they fight downhill while Russians fight uphill.

[balmy sundial]

ngl i love using it but its just too strong

[random pecan]

Stalingrad is a pretty balanced map. It's really the only fun one to play as Russian infantry, which says something.

[balmy sundial]

facts

[autumn rose]

kursk wouldn't be so bad if the russians didn't have the obvious disadvantage in every department

Their armor cannot compare, they have no light tank still, their start is mediocre and overall their ability to maintain a push is inadequate compared to the Germans.

[random pecan]

It is clear the game was balanced for Germany vs. America. This has lead to an OP German team when it is against Russia.

[balmy sundial]

put the asu-57 as the light tank

[modern rampart]

The IS-1 can outplay the tiger more often than not

[autumn rose]

the asu-57 isn't even a ww2 tank xd

[autumn rose]

Its also the only viable russian tank though

[balmy sundial]

let me check

[autumn rose]

The T34 only exists to add kills to the Tiger players

[random pecan]

The Russian light tank is a joke, yes.

[modern rampart]

don't have one.

they only have a recon car

[autumn rose]

The ASU-57 is definitely not a WW2 tank, its a coldwar paratrooper tankette

[random pecan]

The only chance the Russian have in tank battles is if the commander only spams IS-1s.

[autumn rose]

^^

[modern rampart]

that dude is trolling Bubbles

[autumn rose]

ah

mb

[balmy sundial]

yep just checked it i'm getting my stuff muddled

[autumn rose]

I mean I would see the BT7 or the T70 as a fair addition

[modern rampart]

T-70 would probably be the best long term pick

[autumn rose]

Probably true

[modern rampart]

BT-7 was already antiquated by 1942

[autumn rose]

I would also like the KV1

[modern rampart]

yes, KV-1 would be really nice

[autumn rose]

A cheaper Heavy tank like the americans Jumbo 75

[balmy sundial]

kv-85 was around then right let me check

[autumn rose]

And instead of the germans getting a second heavy tank they should get the panther back

[modern rampart]

well they will

[autumn rose]

The KV-85 is kind of a mediocre tank to fit that role

[modern rampart]

KV-85 would be too similar to the IS-1

[autumn rose]

And the IS1 is basically that

yeah

[modern rampart]

^

[random pecan]

Yes, the T-70 is the best pick for Russian light tank.

[balmy sundial]

damn it only has a different upper glaci and turret but u guys are right its way to similar

[autumn rose]

The KV1 early or mid would be a great cheap heavy

[modern rampart]

in a perfect world the Soviets would get a T-70 as a light tank, BA-10 recon, T-34/76 and T-34/85 as medium or heavy-ish tanks, IS-1 and KV-1 as heavy tanks and the IS-2 as the "super heavy" tanks

also SU-85 as tank destroyer/assault gun

[autumn rose]

When the germans inevitably get the King Tiger, the IS-2 would make a great counter

SU-85 to Stug III and M18

[modern rampart]

well the IS-2 is planned just the same as the King Tiger

[autumn rose]

Americans are getting Pershing

[balmy sundial]

but will the reload be there?

[modern rampart]

IS-2 mod43

[autumn rose]

Probably

[modern rampart]

not model 44 sadly

[autumn rose]

An IS2 is one of the few tanks that can fairly take on a King Tiger

[modern rampart]

which looks better than the mod43 imo

[autumn rose]

Mod44 does look cool

[modern rampart]

there was talks about the ISU-152 as well btw

[autumn rose]

I like the bedframe armor mods

[modern rampart]

which would absolutely slam

[autumn rose]

Maybe if the Hummel gets added

yeah fr

[balmy sundial]

true but if a tiger can get of 2-3 shots per 1 from the is-2 then how will that be balanced?

[modern rampart]

The "super heavy" tanks aka King Tiger, IS-2 and Pershing will be a new class and probably balanced accordingly

one per team

[autumn rose]

It only really tanks 1 shot for either of those tanks to kill each other

[modern rampart]

mass amount of fuel cost

and so on

[autumn rose]

a penetrating shot

[modern rampart]

Realistically

but keep in mind that HLL uses a boiled down rock-paper-scissor system atm

[sweet cliff]

Who thinks a Pz IV has the advantage over a T-34 in tank on tank play