new-recruit-barracks

[honest isle]

I think he means high ping. There's not a ton of asian servers in this game as far as I know

[rancid steeple]

Same problem in germany all servers ms is like 150+ idk why

It's like i'm two step behind als my enemy

[still vault]

Are you sorting the servers by ping after refreshing?

[torn rain]

Is there a PTE chat I can use?

Nevermind, I see it now

[autumn thorn]

.

[bold palm]

Hello, all. Brand shiny new here. I picked up the game, when it was free on PS5 the other month and, after stumbling across the HLL subreddit, I've decided to give it ago.

I look forwards to being an utter bullet-sponge near you, soon!

Is there an FAQ or something I should look at first?

[hard fjord]

HLL guides

[autumn rose]

I would say just get through a round or two, and then go with questions from there

You'll have quite a few if you're playing somewhat engaged

[bold palm]

Would you look at that! I was literally looking for the letters FAQ.

Thank you both

[glad pasture]

check this out first: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaY27yiOPPA

[bold palm]

Excellent, thank you. I'm going to go get shot for a spell, I think!

[bold palm]

Well. I didn't die and I think I may have even hit someone! I call that a success.

[somber oak]

Yeooo

Anyone wanna play

[dawn widget]

Hey guys, login seems to be broken? I guess I need to register onto the website right?

[autumn rose]

?

[sleek pike]

Anyone have any good hell let loose youtuber recommendations

[torn prairie]

The big boys are @errant swallow and @modern depot! You'll see the occasional video by JackFrags and in the past Karmakut. Plenty of videos posted by community and 'War Correspondents' in #hll-videos#war-correspondent and you could even click on my profile and check out my stuff 😉

Depends what kind of content you're looking for bud!

[sleek pike]

Alright

[torn prairie]

Mono and Terry are good for guides and general gameplay for example

[modern depot]

Checkout @wheat galleon and @dusky notch as well 🙂 Fresh does a lot of armour stuff, and Gebatron does a bunch of guides as well

and thanks @torn prairie 🙂

[torn prairie]

Oh and there are a bunch of great streamers aswell (including the two names above) but also folk like @severe tusk and @lean orchid

[dusky notch]

Thanks @modern depot ! Lots of good ones to check out @sleek pike !

[severe tusk]

@torn prairie <3

[dawn widget]

https://youtu.be/S-rvWmn-O-I

[brave ruin]

I'd love to squad up with some brand new players tomorrow on PC when I get off work. Should be on HLL around 7? Anyone down to squad up? Would love to help new players get familiar with the game. Msg me!

[tall orchid]

^^ fair warning, he may ask for feet pics

[still vault]

It is not easily visible. Is it a microstutter, seemingly being unable to hit players in a crossfire, or sudden instances of frame rate spikes or fan RPM in that overlay failing to be detected?

[dim pulsar]

@brave ruin do you like hairy toes?

[brave ruin]

Lmao

[meager mango]

Do y’all think HLL will ever add the ability to look outside Tank Hatches for Tank Crew? Like Enlisted

Would be cool, and it could give the gunner and driver a better view of the game before getting into battle aside from staring down either crosshairs or a tiny slit at the front of the tank

Or maybe even add mounted guns on the top of the tank for infantry to use, like how some Sherman’s came with a 50. Cal off the back of the turret for people to use

And how most Tigers, Panthers, and Panzers usually came with an MG-34 or 42 mounted on their cupola

[prime quartz]

no

[frigid pivot]

I wish

[dim pulsar]

Spotter has a periscope, there is no reason to look outside the hatch, and if you solo, thats on you

[meager mango]

For cinematic effects

Tank crewmen always sat outside their tanks on the way to the frontlines

Would be cool to just watch all the soldiers and trucks/other tanks drive past you on your way to fight

It would just make the game feel more immersive

The MG idea would be super cool and add some more dynamics to a battlefield

[winged hamlet]

Yes they do

[iron ibex]

Last time I played uniforms still looked like this

Oh apparently they have been updated

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERO_fbBXsAEzpYM.jpg

Well thank fuck for that

No chance of going back though, HLL maps are too good

[ionic timber]

Hello, I am gonna be new to HLL soon, and was interested in becoming a tank crewman, I have a lot of exerpince in war thunder (ik that game is very irrevlent to how tank combat in this game works but it also gives an idea of like weakspots, positioning etc.) I am willing to fill/gt taught any role (except commander) so if ur looking for a tanker just let me know

also ill just join any squad and learn any role that someones needs, rather be led into a role to learn for the long run then be lost trying to learn different roles

[brave ruin]

Any new PC players looking to play with an experienced unit, dm me!

[ionic timber]

🥲

[native furnace]

Dont bother with any of the stuff you've learned from ground RB in warthunder, its far less complicated in HLL
All you need to do as a tank gunner is remember these simple things.

1. Always prioritize the rear engine, then the sides, then the front armour close to the mantle.
2. Sherman 76 is the superior tank in the game, regardless of all else.
3. The german recon vehicle is simply better than the luchs in terms of anti armour, and more mobile.

Theres a lot of other stuff to learn, but in general the armour mechanics in HLL are far more simple compared to WT

[ionic timber]

Ik it’s not relevant but at least I know tanks

Oh wait really.

[native furnace]

ull be sweet as when it comes to identifying vehicles at least, which is gold when all u hear is 'enemy sherman' over and over again

[ionic timber]

Yeah

I’ve been craving a more realistic tank combat game so

[buoyant crypt]

Im brand new I could use some help

[dawn widget]

New to the game. Played a couple games. Found my new addiction

[normal pike]

Welcome mate

[lament fable]

I love playing for 45 minutes just to dc

[upbeat ledge]

anyone down to play

?

[mental haven]

Is it better to drop an airhead behind enemy lines or in front of them

[uncut jasper]

Absolutely

[native furnace]

without a doubt

[uncut jasper]

Indubitably

[gloomy grove]

Not really.

Airheads are easy to counter by seeing them drop. The best place is just behind your breakthrough to the strongpoint to spawnbomb onto it to get the cap going

[strange mountain]

People really need to communicate with me when I'm doing artys
I had 5 friendly kills.....Not happy about that.
Someone revenged killed me because I was killing friendlies. Not my fault if they are in my way. He said, "Stop fucking teamkilling."
I was gonna say then stop getting in my way to kill our enemies you jackass.

I'm not doing it on purpose or intentionally.

[oak lotus]

Hello, anyone down to play some? I'm new to the game lel

[dawn widget]

If you’re shelling an area your friendlies can reach within the 25s travel time then it’s on purpose. Don’t forget the up to 25 metre dispersion on each shell. Are you even placing your own arty marker and announcing where you’re shelling? You have to overcommunicate.

On the other hand as Commander I regret teamkilling some arty the other day on the basis of a rumour they were shelling our team. That ruined my own mood too. Next time there will be a proper trial. But arty should have a very communicate SL not just blueberries.

[royal meadow]

i cant switch my weapons ?

how so? i unlocked the mg42 long ago

but i keep spawning with the mg34

[modern rampart]

It's a known bug. If you have selected a different loadout and spawn with the standard one, you are suffering from said bug.

[royal meadow]

that bug has been around SO long

[modern rampart]

yeah, unfortunately

[royal meadow]

also it is selected in my baracks

at all times

[modern rampart]

It used to be better somewhat better

[modern rampart]

Wait...what?

[royal meadow]

i would never change out the mg42 lol

[modern rampart]

That is something else then though

[royal meadow]

its selected in my baracks since i unlocked it ...means i should spawn in with it

[modern rampart]

Oh..I thought you meant, it has also selected the 34 instead of the 42 in the barracks

It might improve a bit with Update 11, haven't had that bug in the PTE

[royal meadow]

no the 42 is always gold rimmed in the baracks

same in the deploy screen

[modern rampart]

Yeah, so it is the loadout bug

not much you can do to fix it

[royal meadow]

meeeeeeeen :(

[modern rampart]

I have heard switching to a tank squad and then switching back to infantry helps but I haven't tried that myself

[royal meadow]

i tried it

[modern rampart]

I don't have that bug too often

[royal meadow]

worked back then

dosent anymore

i legit only have that bug on the mg42 class

[modern rampart]

Yeah, super weird that bug over all. Wonder what might be the cause for it. Seems to be quite hard to reproduce.

[long quiver]

Hey guys, any idea how to move the tank commander's periscope around? I can't find any bindings and the intuitive inputs WASD QE and mouse don't turn it

[severe flume]

you have to zoom in 1 step then use mouse to rotate. you cant rotate it when zoomed out

[long quiver]

thanks a lot!

[severe flume]

👍

[long quiver]

[alpine thicket]

Is the a release date for the Russia content on console?

[torn rain]

Anyone know what the worst performing map is? I want to try and benchmark my settings to try and get better mileage out of my settings

[hardy cedar]

all maps run about equally crap for me but there is a point SDM or SME (probably eglise) near german mid spawn where there is a field of wheat and my fps dropped massively in that area, didnt matter where i looked

[dawn widget]

What's good audio settings for game should my mic be on 50 or can I increase it or will this make the audio clipping

[dawn widget]

can we get middle east yet i want to see arab faction and Indian and israeli faction in ww2

1948 Arab–Israeli War
May 15, 1948 – Mar 10, 1949
The 1948 Arab–Israeli War was the second and final stage of the 1947–1949 Palestine war. It formally began following the end of the British Mandate for Palestine at midnight on 14 May 1948; the Israeli

what about japanese

and the Chinese Civil War
Aug 1, 1927 – Dec 7, 1949
The Chinese Civil War was a civil war in China fought between the Kuomintang-led government of the Republic of China and forces of the Chinese Communist Party lasting intermittently between 1927 and 1949. Wikipedia

maybe that one could be in beyond the wire

[strange mountain]

I didn't know that. There's been miscommunication, and mostly I've been ignored the whole time. I told my SL that I was shelling and told some of the other squad members I was shelling some areas. I was completely ignored and then attacked by a friendly because I killed 5 team members.
I did say I was sorry for killing friendlies.

[uncut jasper]

Killing friendlies with arty, I'm so proud of you

[dawn widget]

i paid full price i wanted alternative to cod because activision became woke

and i want tp support the devs

[pliant smelt]

Usually people say Stalingrad is the most intensive

[torn rain]

weirdly it's very alright for me

[pliant smelt]

Must mean your good to go then lol 😂

[hasty tinsel]

there weren't enough automatics in 1927

[opaque thorn]

lol why was my post about getting the vet role deleted? that's not a nice way to say thanks to someone who funded your kickstarter

I've done a search and can't find any way to get the vet role I am entitled to

sorry if pinging you upset you mods, but isn't this literally your job
edit: fixed, thank you jaguar

[atomic heath]

Hi, how can i get apperance twitch drop items ?

[dawn widget]

also this

GIMME FREE SHIT PLZ

[atomic heath]

didnt understand

you dont know how to get them ?

@dawn widget

[dawn widget]

not really no

if it involves watching twitch I'm out

shit is boring as hell

[tall orchid]

the last time they did a twitch drop it didn’t come from watching a stream, you got it by subscribing to a streamer

[dawn widget]

I know i suggested Chinese Civil war should in beyond wire

[severe flume]

The Twitch drop stuff in my understanding is currently a misprint and that stuff is locked

[drifting magnet]

Is there any place we can read the changelog for the new update?

Would like to see what bugs were squashed.

[uncut flame]

They are described in the news updates, you can find them for console and PC in the link below. The Community posts on Steam also contain notes.

https://www.team17.com/news/?game_name=hell-let-loose#paged

[kindred ridge]

How can I rank up my classes quicker?

[uncut jasper]

Supply trucks

make sure to dump supply boxes in the middle of roads and not near any friendly objectives

[uncut flame]

Do drop them in a few cheeky out of the way places for garrisons though. Even slightly offset from existing garrisons.

So if one gets taken you can easily pop over to the nearby cache and get a new one up. I usually drop my first two on the second objective in Warfare, then after that one for an objective and one for a field cache.

[eager harness]

Shhh nobody tell him about the node thing

[dawn widget]

No worries, arty can be tricky. I recommend doing it as SL unless your own SL is very focussed on it

[strange mountain]

Right.

[hasty tinsel]

I was being sarcastic lmao

[upbeat ledge]

-+

[still moon]

Hey new recruits! I put together a video to help you increase your combat effectiveness. It covers things like communication, spotting the enemy, cover & concealment, etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avAgWeT3BFM Hopefully it helps some people out! See you on the frontline, hopefully!

[torn prairie]

Nice video Soul!

[still moon]

Thanks @torn prairie I appreciate it 👍

[torn rock]

if anyone needs further help pls dont hesistant to ask. its what we're all here for

if u have a newer card put that dx12 launch command. but if its older than a 10 series nvidia gpu take it off

most maps i get 144 frames solid, with it dropping to maybe.... 110-130 if shits getting crazy, but on the newer maps its a bit over 100 at all times(stalingrad, kursk), i dismiss that to theyre not as optimized tho. im sure in time they will tho so im not complaining

[jaunty forge]

Hello!

[glad pasture]

Welcome to HELL LET LOOSE discord if you need any help please ask.

[normal pike]

1900 hours in and I'm still not sure what FPP bullets are

[next oasis]

the little yellowish tracers you see off your weapon when you shoot

[still vault]

First-Person Perspective Tracers.

Your own gunfire.

[normal pike]

Well there ya go. Cheers guys

[quick ibex]

hello

[glad pasture]

Welcome to HELL LET LOOSE discord.

[quick ibex]

hello😁 is swearing aloud on the discord?

[tall orchid]

fuck yeah it is

[glad pasture]

Please read #readme-rules here

[quick ibex]

I did, but I didnt see anything about not swearing

[glad pasture]

Within reason so long as it doesn’t break the rules and become Toxic / Obnoxious / or personal.

[normal pike]

Welcome mate!

[slim fractal]

Hello 👋

[wind crater]

Is there by any chance a specific time for when the updates will be coming out on the 7th?

[tall orchid]

Yes

[uncut jasper]

Most of this is good, although the -dx12 command doesn't really yield any noticeable improvements anymore in exchange for more stuttering.

DX12 and Unreal Engine just do not vibe for some reason

[wind crater]

Haven't been able to find anything regarding the times online; if you'd be able to show any links though, it'd be enormously appreciated!

[glad pasture]

Official release of D.L.C. normally starts 11.00 hours G.M.T. / U.K.

[tall orchid]

oh I dunno what the time will be, but it will definitely come out at a specific time

[wind crater]

Hugely appreciated!!!

[tall orchid]

but yeh, the last few updates have come out about the same time the PTEs start

[wind crater]

Hoping some of the new planned cosmetics come out with the update too; hyped beyond belief for some of the ones that've been showcased. 👀

Absolutely ready to throw some money down for some of them, for sure.

[tall orchid]

I imagine everything in the PTE will come with launch

No reason to put them in otherwise

Imagine it’ll launch with that Red Steel DLC too

[wind crater]

Yeah, I saw there were a fair few DLC's referenced for a bunch of different cosmetics that'll be purchasable.

[still vault]

The game never actually targets it. It is just the Stock UE4 DX12 pipeline being used as an attempt to improve FPS by leveraging its general overhead reductions.

[quick ibex]

alright

[next oasis]

only cross platform with the other console

[next oasis]

it's not on EGS

[autumn rose]

Ah yes

My HLL achievements for my EG account

Ghengis khan goes right under my fortnite achievements

[warm knot]

default dance over the corpses of 100 enemies

[uncut jasper]

Floss on the commander I just gibbed with arty

[nimble furnace]

When’s the Tornado 🌪 update coming?

[dawn widget]

Sometime after the Eastern Front/wingsuit update

[tired shore]

Who can see the effects of friendly recon plane on the map?
Everyone or just certain roles?

[glad pasture]

Commander and Squad leaders.

[dawn widget]

Also support

[gloomy grove]

And crewmen and sniper

[spiral compass]

Not true. It boosts fps a lot, but will introduce stuttering and game will be crash prone . Sadly. But fps can get a massive boost

[tall orchid]

that was my experience. went from a 90 average fps to 115ish, but introduced microstutters

tbh i'm happy with 90fps. honestly a little surprised my 3080 can churn out 90fps in 4k

[peak veldt]

I find dx12 horrible in a number of games so prefer not to use it

[peak veldt]

3080ti gets about 110-120 FPS peak, and solid 90+, to an Odyssey G9 so it’s really v useable

[tall orchid]

g9 is 2k, innit?

[spiral compass]

I play Assetto Corsa Competizione in VR with my 6900XT

Also a UE4 based game

90 fps in 3164 x 3092 pr eye

Reverb G2

[peak veldt]

Not quite 4K, it’s 109ppi, 5120x1440

[nimble furnace]

I get 3000fps on my 1980’s black and white CRT screen 📺😃 with a gtx 1080

[fleet topaz]

Not hard pushing out 4 pixels per frame 😂

[red gust]

Can someone explain the roles to me?

Like:
what’s a War Arranger?
Do ranks correlate to HLL career rank?
What does it mean to have the enlisted, conscript roles?
What’s is PTENDA?

[dawn widget]

Ranks: you were a Kickstarter backer. Often have a thousand yard stare. Be kind.

PTENDA: you play/test the alphas (public test environments) on PC, and signed a non-disclosure agreement. And sometimes even provide feedback.

Enlisted, conscript: you are newish. One day a mod will decide that you are ready to graduate from these tags, or not.

War arranger: I don’t know precisely but I assume they organise events. See #legacy-event-announcements.

Would anyone else find it useful if you could adjust the volume of Local, Squad, and Command VOIP separately?

[tall orchid]

war arrangers organize competitive matches, events, or are server owners/admins

[nimble furnace]

Or Squad chat in your left ear and Command chat in your right?? Both can be adjusted.🤔

[frank rain]

yo they need free weekend with this new update pls..

[brave ruin]

Do they though

[uncut jasper]

Free weekends in HLL are awful

[tall orchid]

bruh real talk

[uncut jasper]

That’s what I said. The increased framerate isn’t worth the much more noticeable microstuttering; feels horrible to play.

[dawn widget]

I tested the dx12 today and had few microstutters ryzen 7 3800x 3070ti, 980 Pro ssd.. Just had a few dx crashes

[autumn rose]

Theres never a better time to play than free weekend

I've never had so many armor kills as I did last one

[tall orchid]

hue

if i were but a player

but i have to be an admin too

[autumn rose]

Why don't you just use admin cams

Its like a comedy skit

I once watched a 3 man armor group of all below lvl 5 run a puma off the edge of the cliffs on Omaha at full speed and land upside down

[tall orchid]

haha

[uncut jasper]

Free weekend, where I get TK'd like 30 times a match and can't do it back

But I do anyway

My favorite is shooting them once so they're wounded, but not making it obvious that a teammate did it, so they're none the wiser

Real TTT strats

[frozen tiger]

guys is the game worth it

im deciding if i should buy it or not

nvm looking at this trailer im buying it

[uncut jasper]

If you're on Steam, you got two hours to try it and then refund it if you don't like it

You'll probs like it, though, I think you'll get your money back from playtime by itself

[glad pasture]

Check this video first before you jump in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaY27yiOPPA

[burnt venture]

Yo can I play with xbox players on PC???

[torn prairie]

Afraid crossplay isnt possible at this moment of time my dude!

[gloomy ibex]

🙁

[brave ruin]

Want to play with some newer PC players tomorrow for the update. Who's down to play?

[visual venture]

ooo what time tomorrow? just got the game today

[frozen tiger]

Guys I had to refund the game

I think I just got ptsd and like a head ache

[hollow spoke]

😂

[nimble furnace]

Lower the master volume and others.🤔

[fleet topaz]

Did you spawn into a bombing run yet? Those are fun

[nimble furnace]

It was scarily loud when I first played 😂

[stiff gate]

🍉

[dawn widget]

hey guys newbie here lol just got the game a couple days ago and loving it so far

[nimble furnace]

Best WW2 game Ever!!😎

[bleak estuary]

is there any indication that PC <> console crossplay will be available in the future?

[peak veldt]

It would be bad news for console players tbh given how much better a pc player can be with mouse aiming etc

[rich sandal]

For console, there’s aim assistance, because aiming with a controller is considerably slower and more restricted. That alone would be an issue, how does one balance that between consoles and pc? I’m both on console (XSX) and pc, but hope they’ll never implement cross platform between console and pc, and if they do - I hope that will be a server setting.

[dawn widget]

if they do i have they give us an option to turn cross play off

[rich sandal]

Add to that updates, bugs on the different platforms etc, etc, etc

[dawn widget]

And splitting the console playerbase across two types of lobby. It’s usually healthy enough but can get quiet out of hours.

[sweet cliff]

Yeah, under no circumstances would I ever want to play on a server that did cross play with consoles.

[honest isle]

Why does the game zap me for turning off motion blur?

[still vault]

Zap you how?

[honest isle]

The screen flashes white and it goes bzzzp

It happens whenever I turn off motion blur

[peak veldt]

That’s the effect when you apply new settings

[honest isle]

Oh

Why though?

[peak veldt]

Why is the sky blue?

It is an aesthetic choice

[honest isle]

Why is it blue?

[peak veldt]

Unreal Engine bro

[still vault]

To indicate success?

[honest isle]

Good answers

[torn prairie]

We dont know at this point im afraid as the game is still being ported over by another company to console but I believe its very unlikely

[dawn widget]

About that… does Flix’s addition to the PC splash screens mean they’re now working on that version too, or is it just an honorary addition?

[fading hazel]

about the new update, any lists on what is fixed and added ?

detailed list i mean

[slim fractal]

It will come and you know when it's up.

[glad pasture]

ATTENTION: Update 11 Changelog Link here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wr-L8nK699254WzWx9Gyey6DTq7ZcGwX4vSfNTvhUrs/edit

[nimble furnace]

Also, I play on PC to avoid playing with kids.😏

[nimble furnace]

I’ve only ever encountered one squeaker even though I have over 600hrs into the game! I spoke to him through local chat, he immediately suggested that I sounded like a Nonce! So I shot him and told him to go play Fortnite!!😒

Never allow cross play with console and PC please 🙏

[regal island]

Hey what's the public test?

It's downloading like it is a separate game

[tall orchid]

exactly what it sounds like

a version of the game for public testing of updates before they release

[regal island]

And I can uninstall it without any consequences?

[tall orchid]

you don't need it rn since there's no PTEs planned

yep

[regal island]

Ok thanks

[glad pasture]

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[torn rain]

Damn, the new red steel DLC is purely a uniform, no extra helmet or anything.

[nimble owl]

Are the new achievements active with this update? And any news about the foy winter helmets coming back? Cheers.

[tall orchid]

yeah

[uncut jasper]

Alright, boys, I'll see you in game. Let's get this content™️

[finite cairn]

the updated sucked off my last remaining gb got a warning from windows gotta delete some anime I guess

[peak veldt]

“Anime”

Lol

[hasty tinsel]

steam doesn't let you download if you won't have the space?

[finite cairn]

it does

[fleet topaz]

Download size and installed size are different, since it uses compression.

So it might allow the download but fail on installation.

[light iris]

Hello, I am new to HLL and am looking for a group of people to play with on PC. I'm on the east coast of the US

[brave ruin]

Who’s down to play today

[sage sierra]

hello

[slim fractal]

No thanks.

[brave ruin]

Play with me baby

[brittle venture]

but yet no winter warfare

[quick ibex]

is the update out on xbox and playstation yet?

[tall orchid]

lol why do people keep asking that

[quick ibex]

is it?

[quick ibex]

i havent gotten a chance to play since last night

[brittle venture]

it isnt

console doesnt have soviets yet

[quick ibex]

when will it?

[dawn widget]

2022

[quick ibex]

k

[dawn widget]

Kkkkkkkkk

New update seems great unsure of the trench gun aka bb gun tho.. Had a few shots today with it

[obtuse brook]

have devs addressed stability issues with latest patch?

[scenic sleet]

will these new dlc's be time limited?

[mortal flare]

Hi, I'm new to HLL and I'd like to find a community to play with on PC, I'm on the American West Coast

[spiral wigeon]

Oh my god whats up with those menu character animations lol

Machine gunner looks quite silly

[normal pike]

Machine guns are heavy, you gotta put your back in to it if you wanna fling it around like that

[spiral wigeon]

Seems weird still

[nimble furnace]

But realistic in reality

[fringe berry]

Is it me or is there invisible props in carentan

[brave ruin]

Any newer players want to squad up?

[dim pulsar]

🙂

[dark acorn]

Yeah

[hardy cedar]

they are cringe af and gave me terminal disease

mgs are around 12-15 kilos, the slowness of the animation makes it look like they are at least 30 😄

[pale dagger]

Sometimes they don't render in(because of distance) it makes it a little hard as a tank crew sometimes ^^

[fringe berry]

Ig so but a lot of assets werent loaded in i kept wondering why the person wasnt dying til i realized a whole wall segment was invisible

[pale dagger]

fences, small walls etc. are notoriusly known for being unrendered aka invisible

[fringe berry]

Ah so it isnt a new bug then?

[pale dagger]

nope ^^

[warm knot]

always have been

[heavy belfry]

ngl

the new soldier animation in the menu screen in kinda cringe

[grand hinge]

Is there no Max FPS setting? Is the game locked to 60 or just the menu?

[next oasis]

just menu

[steady lily]

Is "cringe" the new-fangled word for "lame"?

[heavy belfry]

no it's cringe

not lame

[steady lily]

sounds like it's trying to convey the same meaning as "lame"

because the new menu animations are indeed lame.

[still vault]

Cringe is an intentional shortening of Cringe-Inducing.

[heavy belfry]

the character is overexaggerating half the movements while keeping a straight emotionless face the entire time

yikes

[dawn widget]

do you get class xp when building with the hammer only when the structure is built or do you get class xp as soon as you start building it

[still vault]

It is intended to be a stronger, more actively appalling phrase than the weaker, passive lame.

[native furnace]

Heads up for people the free winter warfare dlc is currently avaliable on steam

[still vault]

Splendid.

[whole rain]

So I downloaded the Summer Warfare DLC during the summer and I don't have access to the uniform for some reason, anyone else have that issue?

[uncut jasper]

You need to get Lvl 6 with a class iirc

[autumn rose]

Lvl 7 but yeah

[uncut jasper]

Yeah, it's free, hope you like grinding to use it tho

[west pilot]

be prepared to die a lot

you can use the bearing marks (numbers) at the bottom of your screen to call out the general direction of enemies

you can also use middle mouse to put a ping but no-one outside of your squad can see it

[next oasis]

learn how bearings work before you call out with them, better yet just dont at all!

[west pilot]

Sprichst du Deutsch?

[dull birch]

I just wanna level up my classes but they go so slowly

[nimble furnace]

We need “Stuka Dive Bombers” update PLEASE 🙏😃

[gloomy grove]

Build nodes as engineer, switch into the class you want to level. Easy XP

[dull birch]

I see...

[glad pasture]

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[peak veldt]

@glad pasture hello - where do we submit bug reports?

[sour moon]

#pc-feedback obviously

[gloomy grove]

They don't have access to that channel, obviously

[glad pasture]

You should be able to access #pc-feedback now

[peak veldt]

Thank you so much

Will post in there

[slim fractal]

#bug-reporting

[glad pasture]

Agree it needs to be updated for Update 11 ‘Outflank’ I will submit a request to the Dev team

[glad pasture]

For your Information: Any members who wish to report any NEW Bugs or Glitches they have found since Update 11 -Outflank the #bug-reporting page has been updated.

[sonic glacier]

Hello, i didnt found a channel for questions so i just gonna ask here,
Does someone know if there will be communitiy servers for console?

[glad pasture]

We currently have NO information from the development team on community servers for consoles

[sonic glacier]

oh okay, still thanks for the answer

[nimble furnace]

New updates a Beassst!! Well done to the Devs!🤘🏻😎

[autumn rose]

Do you actually legitimately like the new update?

If new players are considering getting this game or getting a friend to, I'd highly advise against it at the moment.

There might be a patch to fix a huge portion of the gameplay atm, but U11 is very likely the worst update HLL has recieved so far.

It really is a shame too because it could have been really great.

[gloomy grove]

Every patch is always claimed to be the worst patch

[nimble furnace]

Exactly this 👆🏻

My game’s running better than ever and all the new stuff is a positive implementation to the game.

[dawn widget]

Really? In here?

[upper jewel]

same thing everyone says every update in this server, talking to people in game everyone always seems pretty happy with it

[autumn rose]

Considering most new players dont get access to #pc-feedback when they join, yeah I'll be honest

Let's break it down since I feel like most are unaware.

FG42 was implemented as a reskin of a gun instead of a new gun, it received no bipod and the scoped variant has a carbon copy of the kar98k scope with reduced zoom

Shotgun was implemented with janky mechanics and has wishy washy damage, sometimes 2 or 3 shotting at close range and sometimes insta killing above 60 meters.

Vehicle movement, especially wheeled vehicles like trucks has severe decreased in quality, and trucks will more than ever become stuck in the world or map, while tires and engines will go crazy even if you arent moving.

They removed the panther entirely for this update to add the panzer 4, which currently is just as badly implemented as the panther was if not worse. Its armor values are broken, its damage is mediocre, its speed is extremely low compared to both real life and tanks of previous updates and it's just trading a broken feature for a new broken feature.

All scout cars have been severe nerfed to the point where it would now take 8 to 10 shots to kill a heavy from behind

[upper jewel]

no problem with that

[upper jewel]

sounds like server issues to me, havent experienced that at all

[autumn rose]

ATs are currently the worse part of the update by far and as of now have made armor virtually unusable

[upper jewel]

trucks getting stuck sucks, but huge maps, been getting steadily better through the updates

[autumn rose]

It has not been getting better

And, above all else

[upper jewel]

removed temporarily to fix bugs

[autumn rose]

Bugs like the class switch bug and the grenade bug are even more prevalent

[upper jewel]

totally disagree

[autumn rose]

They didnt remove or fix bugs though

[upper jewel]

had some great tank games last night

[fleet topaz]

Shh, don't disturb the angry man in his ranting, you'll upset him even more

[upper jewel]

i like to poke a troll every so often

[autumn rose]

I'm not fucking trolling

[upper jewel]

you know get the blood flowing ect XD

[autumn rose]

This is infuriating

I attempted to play all of the PTEs. Considering they ran what 5 of them?

Look in PC feedback

Or watch the videos

[fleet topaz]

Haha I'm no better, I did the same thing yesterday when someone suggested that "everyone" would now be spamming AT guns. You know, placing 5-6 of them down in 30 seconds and annihilating tanks. Because it's been a frequent occurrence that there are 5-6 AT guns simultaneously on a server

[autumn rose]

It would be fine if they just had good penetration and moderate damage

[upper jewel]

your not basing this off the pte servers are you? their famously poor, doesnt reflect the quality of the update at all. trench gun felt like trash until you try it with a half stable connection

[autumn rose]

I'm basing this off the update that released

The PTE servers and the main branch seem to have almost no noticeable difference

[upper jewel]

yeah people just love having things to complain about

[autumn rose]

Actually likely a decrease in quality considering they removed many features

Are you kidding me?

The only thing about this update that was a genuine improvement was the sounds

[nimble furnace]

I’m over 600hrs into the game and every update just makes the game better for me.😊

[autumn rose]

Half tracks were added without removing red garrisons so now the spawn system is horrid

[upper jewel]

over 1000, right there with you mate ❤️

[autumn rose]

What do you enjoy about the update

What in U11 has been a good addition

Spare for sounds

Which actually are way better I'll admit that

[nimble furnace]

Sounds

[upper jewel]

trench gun is great fun, new sniper is fun, carentan offensive is fun, sound design is fun, half track adds interesting meta, new uniforms are cool

new tank to play with

[autumn rose]

The new tank is overwhelmingly worse than the removed tank

Tanks are currently a trainwreck

[nimble furnace]

I don’t know if this is new but, I can now make the map icons a lot bigger now which helps me a lot

[upper jewel]

oh and new tank economy, love that

[autumn rose]

Ah yes, 600 fuel for a heavy tank that can do legitimately nothing

Spawn heavy

Drive for 10 minutes to front

[upper jewel]

sounds like someone isnt a very good tanker XD

[warm knot]

then die to an AT gun in 4 seconds that costs 50 supplies

[autumn rose]

^^^

"Not a good tanker"

It takes 4 seconds for an at gun to kill a heavy

From any angle

[fleet topaz]

Maybe you should be coordinating with the infantry on your team so they can find the AT guns before you just roll up with a tank?

[nimble furnace]

The whole game still confuses me tbh🤣… I’m just a runner and gunner.😊

[autumn rose]

It doesnt matter if you coordinate

AT guns can be deployed in less than 10 seconds

[upper jewel]

dont be silly im in a tank, i should be able to W key to victory 🤣

[autumn rose]

And quickly removed and deployed again for no penalty

[warm knot]

that explains a lot tbh

[autumn rose]

Yeah fr

[fleet topaz]

Battlefield Let Loose, wohooo

[nimble furnace]

How so?

[autumn rose]

As someone who's lvl 9 and 8 on my tank classes, and 10 for sl, 10 for engineer, 6 for at, and 7 7 for recons

this update is an overwhelming decrease in quality

[sweet cliff]

It's not possible to coordinate with infantry to find AT guns when you can build an AT gun in mere seconds, for 50 supplies, we were doing it yesterday, you just build it pre-aimed at the tank and hop on and shoot it.

[autumn rose]

^^

[fleet topaz]

I have the highscore on Solitaire on my PC

[sweet cliff]

The infantry could have been there 30 seconds ago, no AT gun, now there's an AT gun.

[autumn rose]

Yeah

[upper jewel]

not since your wife told me the password 😉

[fleet topaz]

I knew she didn't set that on her own!

[autumn rose]

Not to mention that halftracks were added with the addition of red garrisons

So now you can build garrisons in enemy territory and use halftracks

Its horrible

[warm knot]

you're confused by the game because you're a "run and gunner"

[autumn rose]

HE and explosives dont damage infantry in halftracks so I watched an M3 take an HE directly and have literally no death, it just sparked and drove off

The bipods for the fg42 were removed despite the bipod being the only logical reason for adding such an uncommon gun

The class switch bug is now so common that everyone I have played with so far has atleast gotten it once per game since U11 dropped

[sweet cliff]

Also seemingly killing an AT gun doesn't kill the crew, so if your AT guy and support guy are the ones manning the gun and it gets killed but they aren't killed, they can just put down another one immediately.

[autumn rose]

Even if you kill the AT gun, they just put up another one

[sweet cliff]

Yeah, it's essentially free, one every 5 minutes without any extra work (manpower node or role swap) with role swapping you can get multiple guns up in less than 5 minutes and have 6 per squad.

[autumn rose]

theres no penalty for losing it, and it's such an easy build now you can use a supply truck to stack infinite at guns

They will run out of fuel before you run out of at guns

[sweet cliff]

Don't even need the truck, that's a bigger noisier way to do it, role swap is better.

[autumn rose]

And it's not even close

Yeah, this is disgusting that all of this made it to public branch

[sweet cliff]

They are better than a tank for anti-tank operations with sight lines and spawns.

[autumn rose]

Especially considering 90% of these issues were openly reported and discussed during PTEs

[sweet cliff]

Because now instead of a 10 minute drive or whatever, you go build it where it's needed if there are spawns nearby.

Obviously it's less survivable and less good at killing infantry and has a munitions cost, but you build it and kill the tank and you can move on with your life.

[nimble furnace]

I know the basics… put down a few garries and op’s attack and defend… all the points system for resources and stuff isn’t necessary for me to learn because I’m too busy killing people on it, successfully 😊 I’m an excellent squad leader when others aren’t drowning out the voip channels

[upper jewel]

every update, every little tweak there are hoards of people yelling about how you can abuse this or that, personally I dont think ive ever seen more than 2 AT guns on the map in a pub match. I play a lot, havent seen them being abused yet

[autumn rose]

You are blind

I played 2 games like night and there was an AT gun on every point

[sweet cliff]

My squad had 3 AT guns up at windmills yesterday, and it was kind of the worst case scenario for it because the Soviet point was Panzers End which meant there was always going to be infantry within 200 or so meters, and we were stacking tanks left and right.

[autumn rose]

There was an empty tank in all of our spawn points and armor squads would only take recon

[upper jewel]

you guys know if you build repair stations next to a heavy tank in the last updates it was literally impossible to lose a tank battle? but somehow didnt see that every game either

[autumn rose]

Because that's incorrect

[sweet cliff]

We were taking full advantage of building an AT gun to kill a specific tank on top of the general build an AT gun to cover an area.

[autumn rose]

A heavy tank can out dps the repair

You only buy yourself a third shot

[upper jewel]

thats just kursk, any tanks lining that hill is OP as fuck

[autumn rose]

No, it's not just kursk

Had it on SMDM

And then SME

[sweet cliff]

It's certainly better on Kursk, but it works anywhere you can get LOS on a tank and have a spawn point.

[autumn rose]

So no, its every map eith floor

[upper jewel]

which is all you need to win literally any tank battle? heavy tank kills anything in 2

[sweet cliff]

Or the AT/support guy can walk to.

[autumn rose]

Now an AT kills anything in 2

[upper jewel]

i know, you have said multiple times XD

[autumn rose]

And you've ignored every time

[upper jewel]

how

[sweet cliff]

It will work well on Foy, on PHL, on SME, on anything where you can get to a point and see a tank out to 1K meters (or beyond with someone pinging), you put the gun down where previously there was no gun before, and you can kill the tank before the tank can do anything about it, the tank can't possibly be rotating 360* at all times to shoot any group of 2 infantry it sees anywhere.

[upper jewel]

i have no problem with them killing in 2

[autumn rose]

How do you not see the issue

[upper jewel]

because a stationary gun isnt a problem, you just kill it?

[autumn rose]

Holy shit

You are actually dense

[nimble furnace]

It’s like anything in life… I just adjust to the changes and enjoy it a different way.😊

[autumn rose]

You dont enjoy it if you're not a run and gun

[upper jewel]

just talking from experience, havent had any issues with AT guns so far this update

[autumn rose]

Armor is unusable in it's current state

[sweet cliff]

It doesn't matter that it's stationary because you specifically build it in an area where you can see the tank that is already there and they have an extremely limited window to kill you, it also has unlimited ammo (with munitions availavble) so if you're rolling with a support player nearby and drop the gun, that's better than the bazooka.

[autumn rose]

Your experience is irrelevant

[upper jewel]

one could say the same to you my friend XD

[sweet cliff]

and then it doesn't matter that it's stationary, you move on with your life and can build it somewhere else in 5 minutes (or less with redeploy swaps)

[autumn rose]

Because the overwhelming majority if people who armor or play AT agree

[fleet topaz]

Why is his experience irrelevant but yours isn't?

[nimble furnace]

It was a figure of speech 🎤… I’m an excellent team and squad player

[autumn rose]

Ignore my experience and just look at the public feedback

[upper jewel]

the vast majority of people who like to bitch on discord maybe 🤣

[tall orchid]

look at mine, specifically ❤️

[autumn rose]

I've never seen feedback with such a high vote

[sweet cliff]

50 supplies + reload speed + infantry ability to transport themselves across the map with spawn points.

[fleet topaz]

To date I have seen four people in here crying about this issue. If that's the overwhelming majority of people who play armor/AT then I don't think this issue affects enough of the playerbase for it to be given priority.

[nimble furnace]

They all come over from Reddit 🤣

[autumn rose]

The vast majority of those people are players who play and give to this game a lot more than you

[sweet cliff]

I've already seen one feedback post complaining that the AT gun is still too weak, which is bonkers.

[tall orchid]

hello, i've bitched about the AT guns. would you like my credentials? my resume is vast and very impressive with many bullet points and a stylized font.

[upper jewel]

funny, most I know who play have different opinions

[autumn rose]

Every feedback post in there is above 10 upvotes

Theres now upwards of 50 on some of them

That's not just fucking reddit syndrome

[fleet topaz]

Wow, 50?

[autumn rose]

Theres never been more than 80

Not that I've ever seen

And yes, that is huge number considering this game has a total playerbase of like 5k people and atleast 3k of that doesnt actively participate in the discussion for it

[nimble furnace]

I played for 5 hours before and no one complained, everyone liked the new update

[autumn rose]

And I played for 2 and everyone I played with had major complaints

[fleet topaz]

There are 5500 people in game currently on Steam, so the playerbase must be considerably larger than 5K.

[warm knot]

"my anecdote is better than your anecdote!"

[autumn rose]

Yeah fr

[tall orchid]

you should see the chatlog from my server yesterday evening

[autumn rose]

^^

[tall orchid]

nonstop bitching about the update

[sweet cliff]

I'm kind of convinced the only people who don't think U11 AT guns in their current state aren't a problem are people who don't play with any friends so they don't have people willing to work together with them towards a common goal.

[tall orchid]

on both teams

[sweet cliff]

Because it is incredibly easy to plop a gun down and kill something immediately.

[autumn rose]

I'm convinced the only people who like this update only like it because they expect this game to be battlefield 2042 quality

[nimble furnace]

Classic Social Media

[sweet cliff]

It is of course a lot harder to do that by yourself.

[warm knot]

you have a couple screws loose if you think making the AT guns kill heavy tanks with 2 shots in 4 seconds is a positive change

[autumn rose]

A support and AT can disable an entire enemy teams armor now

Yeah fr

[sweet cliff]

You can kill a heavy tank before it can even reload.

[tall orchid]

i'd say my example carries more weight than yours, if we're playing the my story vs your story game

[autumn rose]

"Just shoot it"

Like your brain has to be a different angle of smooth

[sweet cliff]

"Just shoot anything and everything around you at all times always ever and never miss any shot or you just die."

[autumn rose]

Yeah

[upper jewel]

see now your getting it

[sweet cliff]

oh wait, I'm in a medium Sherman that takes like 30 seconds to turn 180* and they built it behind me.

[tall orchid]

go read #pc-feedback message so i don't have to explain everything all over again

[fleet topaz]

The tank can move though? Like, if it takes two shots to kill the tank aren't you being not a great tanker if you just hang around for the second shot?

[nimble furnace]

I was just stating that it’s typical of Social Media… you crank!!🤣

[warm knot]

"just use clairvoyance to know where the AT gun is before it kills you lol"

[tall orchid]

i went a little out of character and gave a fuck about a feedback post for once

[autumn rose]

"Just ignore all the bugs and issues, you're stuck up and expecting to much out of a game that promises things it doesnt deliver on and still expects everyone to buy 5$ cosmetic dlcs"

[warm knot]

can't read it, they're conscripts

[fleet topaz]

If you and your team let the enemy build an AT gun behind the tank then how fast the AT gun kills you isn't your biggest problem 😂

[tall orchid]

oh lmao

[sweet cliff]

You can do it from >1K meters.

[autumn rose]

It doesnt need to be built behind

It 2 shots from the front

[warm knot]

AT guns can kill heavy tanks with 2 shots from any distance and from any angle

[tall orchid]

you know the AT guns penetrate the f-r-o-n-t now right

[fleet topaz]

The comment I replied to specifically mentioned behind though, so that's what I was replying to.

[sweet cliff]

Infantry doesn't render past 500 meters, you can't even see the infantry building the AT gun if they are far enough away, now a small hard to see object just pops into existence and starts shooting.

[sweet cliff]

It's not a back hull shot issue, it's the being able to kill the gun issue, you can't turn a medium Sherman around in time to do anything.

[autumn rose]

And your comment is irrelevant because you seem unaware of the reality of the updates situation

[nimble furnace]

I like to sneak up onto tanks and blow them up with a satchel charge!… so satisfying😎

[autumn rose]

Dont even need to

[sweet cliff]

The gun also doesn't run out of ammo, bazookas/shreks at least have limited shots and then have to redeploy or re-arm to try again, the gun keeps shooting until the team is out of munitions.

[autumn rose]

The satchel class is now after the gun kit

So anyone with lvl 3 at can do this

And its horrid

[fleet topaz]

I reiterate my point that if your tank is in a position where the enemy can build an AT gun behind it unimpeded, you've got bigger problems. You say they build it 1000 meters out, why is your tank in a position where 1000 meters behind it isn't controlled by friendly forces?

[autumn rose]

I no longer see tanks anything more than recon

[sweet cliff]

You can build it aaaaaaanywhere (up to 2 sectors deep in enemy territory).

Anywhere that you have LOS, it is not possible to cover every possible angle at all times at all distances from your tank.

[autumn rose]

You are dumb

[fleet topaz]

My mom says I'm special

[warm knot]

reading comprehension

[nimble furnace]

I love how the human artillery machine is back too, with Assault class Grenade Machine dude!😊

[fleet topaz]

It doesn't seem to be a requirement in here from what I can tell, no.

[autumn rose]

Ah yes

Be unable to understand basic sentences

[sweet cliff]

A lot of maps have incredibly long sight lines in some spots.

[autumn rose]

Complain about being trolled

[sweet cliff]

Look if Bubbles and I agree about anything you know something is wrong.

[warm knot]

"the trolls are hitting me from all angles, wheel torque"

[autumn rose]

Yeah

[sweet cliff]

This isn't even bringing up two squads (can do it with 6 people, 2 3 man squads) working together, this is how good it is with a single 2 people.

[autumn rose]

Legitimately all of the people who normally squal have now unionized

That's a very bad sign

[tall orchid]

its a legit enough issue that i took time out of my morning and wrote a fucking thesis on it when all i really ever do here is shitpost

[autumn rose]

We got on to play because we were excited last night, and it was so unenjoyable that we got off halfway through our 3rd round to chop trees in valheim

That's the state of things now

[warm knot]

I repeat: you have a couple screws loose if you think making the AT guns kill heavy tanks with 2 shots in 4 seconds from any side is a positive change

[nimble furnace]

I like how the shotgun blows people up into bits like playing Doom Eternal 😊

[autumn rose]

I repeat, enigma is speaking facts

Man atleast doom eternal doesnt have a class switch bug

I cant even switch to the shotgun because it apparently just randomized your load out now for fun

And I think I wouldnt even be as mad as I am

[nimble furnace]

6 grenades… 3 smokes… happy days!😊

[autumn rose]

I'd all if these issues werent already reported during pte

All of them

The only issue so far that's new and not PTE related is the class switch bug

[sweet cliff]

AT guns are just a mismatch between the cost and effort (50 supplies, 2 people, spawn at spawn point) and what they can kill and their cost (3 people, 600 fuel, cool down and drive time)

[autumn rose]

Everything else was already noted constantly

[tall orchid]

someone call in a welfare check on max, he's definitely eating paint chips

[warm knot]

I can't believe this bug has existed for multiple updates and hasn't been squashed yet

[autumn rose]

It's gotten worse

[steady lily]

AT guns doing their jobs and killing tanks is a good thing. But we need counters for AT that has an angle on tanks. This is why we need mortars so they can be called in on AT. Also, infantry can flank AT and take it out. Or tank can try to take it out as well. AT are glass cannons.

[warm knot]

he ordered some bootleg sterling silver rings that were actually made out of lead

[autumn rose]

I've now seen the bug reported almost every day by different people each time

[sweet cliff]

The problem is that the gun has already done it's job and it's essentially free so killing it isn't meaningful.

[autumn rose]

AT are not glass cannons

They are glass cannons in a fucking preschool classroom

[steady lily]

wat

[sweet cliff]

I get a new box of supplies every 5 minutes, if you role swap you can always be building them.

[warm knot]

so you think the solution to super overpowered AT guns is to add mortars?

[nimble furnace]

My only problem is the big massive and annoying box in the bottom right corner of the map gets in the way of things sometimes 😏

[autumn rose]

They die easily sure but you really gonna tell me that 4 seconds is enough to react to an at gun put up in a few seconds?

[steady lily]

There should be counters to everything. And mortars should be in the game anyway.

[sweet cliff]

You don't even need mortars if someone sees the AT gun and marks it you can arty it, the problem is the window between people being able to build the tank, and 5 seconds later the tank they built it to fight is dead.

[autumn rose]

I honestly dont want any new additions after this update

[warm knot]

good luck trying to react fast enough to an AT gun that can kill you in 4 seconds

[autumn rose]

I just want them to fix this

Because they've shown they are incapable of adding things that aren't broken as soon as they reach public

[steady lily]

I don't understand what you're complaining about. AT guns are static and can't move easily. Their role is ANTI-TANK.

Have infantry flank it

[autumn rose]

Jack

[warm knot]

bruh

[sweet cliff]

You build them in position to kill the tank that is already there.

[autumn rose]

You can place an AT gun on the fly

[sweet cliff]

It does not matter that they are static.

[steady lily]

We should take tanks out of the game because they can blow up infantry.

[autumn rose]

We've basically already taken them out

[steady lily]

Remove everything from the game

[sweet cliff]

You then move on with your life after you kill the tank, in 5 minutes you can build another gun on demand without role swapping or hitting a manpower node.

[autumn rose]

Nobody is asking it to be removed you human raddish

[steady lily]

I agree that there needs to be resource limitations

[nimble furnace]

We need heat seeking, Hell Fire Missiles!!!

[warm knot]

if you don't see the extremely obvious problem then there's no point in continuing this conversation

[sweet cliff]

By the time that crew drives up from spawn again your box is off cooldown again.

[steady lily]

if you lose an AT, it should cost a lot to replace it

[autumn rose]

But it does not

You reasonably speaking can now have a defense against armor that is impossible to breach

1 supply drop is 2 at guns, 1 supply truck is 6

[sweet cliff]

You can even pre-place the blueprint and have supplies down and have the gun pre-aimed but just not build it until the tank rolls up, they can't see the blue print.

[steady lily]

it's not impossible to breach though. Infantry can take it out.

[autumn rose]

1 at gun can kill any tank type reliably

It doesnt matter

[steady lily]

okay, I understand getting them built may be spammy

but they are not hard to take out

[autumn rose]

Because they can out the at gun up instantly

[warm knot]

a 600 fuel heavy tank that takes minutes to get to the frontline can be deleted in 4 seconds by an AT gun that can be built instantly, and you think this is fine?

[autumn rose]

It doesn't matter

[sweet cliff]

Killing the gun after the tank is dead is pretty irrelevant.

[autumn rose]

^^

[steady lily]

umm. yes

[sweet cliff]

The window to kill the AT gun is too narrow to do anything.

[steady lily]

that's the role of AT

[autumn rose]

It takes 4 seconds to remove a heavy tank that costs 600 fuel and 3 players

[steady lily]

that's why we need battlefield intel to call out ATs

and tanks need to be wary of them

[autumn rose]

It doesnt matter

You are legitimately so dumb

[warm knot]

it. can. be. built. instantly.

[steady lily]

AT cannons are ambush counters to tanks

[tall orchid]

ambush?

[autumn rose]

No

They are a counter completely

[steady lily]

so tanks don't just rush into an ambush

[autumn rose]

Tanks dont run anywhere

[steady lily]

if there is a pass protected by AT, tanks need to call in other means of support to counter

[tall orchid]

you know AT guns can literally win a face-to-face matchup with a heavy tank now right

[sweet cliff]

You build the gun in the right spot in the right scenario and immediately kill the tank, there is no such thing as battlefield intel, the spotter can be looking right at the spot the gun zaps into existence at and then the turret needs to rotate, if you're in a Tiger and your gun just started the reload you're dead.

[steady lily]

mortars, infantry, air strike, etc.

[tall orchid]

that isnt an "ambush"

[autumn rose]

You are dumb jack

[nimble furnace]

“Release the Wunderwaffen”

[tall orchid]

U10 AT guns were "ambush" guns

[steady lily]

ok, then that's not right. They should be about equal. Depending on the cannon size, etc.

[sweet cliff]

We built an AT gun in the face of a T-34 yesterday and got one shot on it, only reason we didn't kill it is because the loader hopped off right before the loader finished to shoot at the infantry that was directly in front of our gun.

[autumn rose]

Now youre getting it

[tall orchid]

dude please know what you're talking about before engaging

jesus

[autumn rose]

Yeah fr

[steady lily]

If you are arguing about their damage stats being OP, then that's another issue.

[tall orchid]

AT guns can 2-hit both medium and heavy tanks with the same number of shots

[sweet cliff]

It could not have been a better scenario for that T-34, we had no cover, we were in the open, he was pointed right at us, we just built the gun and started firing, when we died it was irrelevant because we built another one further back and killed it I think. We used so many AT guns yesterday I might be mixing it up.

[autumn rose]

AT guns have no cooldown, around a 3 to 4 second reload, 50 cost for supplies, can be hot built nearly instantly, and can 2 shot any tank in the game

[tall orchid]

whereas before, AT guns couldn't kill heavy tanks from the front and had to aim their shots at weakpoints to kill a medium from the front

[autumn rose]

That is the issue

[tall orchid]

its a huge, terrible change

[autumn rose]

You don't need to watch for ambushes because they can be built anywhere almost instantly

[steady lily]

It was better before. I hadn't played tanks/AT since the latest update.

I remember people complaining about AT being underpowered

and now they made it OP

[autumn rose]

It's not like before

[sweet cliff]

Help I haven't done this or experienced it but I have really strong opinions on it and I'm going to argue about it.

[tall orchid]

then why are you arguing against people complaining about the U11 meta?

its like that conversation between walter and donnie in the movie theatre in the big lebowski

[autumn rose]

I had a game last night where me and my friend made a 2 man locked infantry and he just played support and I played at

[steady lily]

I thought people were complaining about AT being able to kill tanks in general. It should depend on the cannon size, round and the tank's armor values.

[autumn rose]

You grab a supply truck and just deploy an at gun at the game start

[steady lily]

But two-shotting heavy tanks is OP

[autumn rose]

You kill the first medium as soon as it comes into sight

And then that's it, you never see another tank spare for recon

[tall orchid]

welcome to the group, nice to have you

[autumn rose]

Tanks just pile up in spawns now

[nimble furnace]

I haven’t seen this much commotion since JackFrags gave Battlefield 2042 a 9/10 rating!😲

[tall orchid]

ngl i have a blast playing 2042 but i only fly the nightbird

[autumn rose]

The only reasonable tank is recon and that's only for taking out other trucks and halftracks well

[tall orchid]

shittin on infantry all day errday

[autumn rose]

This update is just depressing because it was features that everyone seemed to like in theory that were bastardized beyond any semblance of enjoyable implementation

[tall orchid]

fortunately for blackmatter, i've solved the issue for them, free of charge

[warm knot]

light tanks are viable too

medium tanks are debatable

[autumn rose]

My panzer 2 got stuck in the floor

Mediums are not viable atm

I just dont see it

[tall orchid]

man i watched so many pz4's get shit on yesterday

[sweet cliff]

I think AT guns got a buff because random players in a public server can't work together at all so it was rare to see effective U10 AT gun usage short of pre-made squads, but now even a solo guy in the right spot can build the gun and load it himself and shoot heavies and it doesn't matter if the heavy rotates.

[autumn rose]

I guess so

[warm knot]

fuel is much better spent on halftracks now

[tall orchid]

my second game yesterday i was able to fulfill a dream

park a halftrack inside an active strongpoint and have the entire team teleport onto it

[nimble furnace]

I want to see the dead cow’s gone from Foy! They make me sad when I pass them in the field.😔

[warm knot]

thank you no disable radius

[tall orchid]

today i will attempt to build barricades around a halftrack and have a megafob garrison

[sweet cliff]

It's 15 meter disable yeah?

[warm knot]

I thought there was none

[tall orchid]

i think its 10

[sweet cliff]

I've seen the half tracks locked.

[tall orchid]

same as bluezone garrisons

[sweet cliff]

Place one in the strong point for the next point on offensive and it's a garrison that recon can't destroy, best they can do is lock it until they're killed, downside is the enemy team has pre-positioned half tracks in enemy territory and are immediately disgorging people once that point is capped.

[tall orchid]

yup. easier than calling in a supply drop, and i'm curious if the spawn timer starts if you shut the engine off in a locked sector

[warm knot]

hopefully new players get the message and don't drive off halftracks as their personal transport

[tall orchid]

im gonna try to get the commander to drop supplies into the interior of the halftrack and drive off with it

[peak veldt]

Imagine if 2 squads dropped supplies along with the Commander and a supply truck, you could basically build a fortress and then park a half track in it

[tall orchid]

see #new-recruit-barracks message

[peak veldt]

Mega Garry with like 2 AT cannons on it

Literally unconquerable

[tall orchid]

if they'd loosen the restrictions on emplacements i could build some interesting shit

[peak veldt]

Imagine a German bunker surrounded by defences

And AA guns

AT sorry

[spiral compass]

No doubt 🤣

[sweet cliff]

Pre positioned AT guns is the wrong way to use AT guns I think unless you have a choke point to aim at, lets people spot it, much more effective to hold the blueprint/supplies and then put it down when the tank shows up and have it mostly pre-aimed.

[steady lily]

That's a pretty terrible way to make something viable. The point of this game is teamwork and coordination. Making it casual and brain-free just shows that this game is on its way to casualization.

[sweet cliff]

? That does take teamwork because the AT and support guy have to be next to each other.

It's just more effective because the AT gun turns slowly enough that you're better off not building it until you need it and pointing it right at the tank so little or no aiming is required. Also prevents the enemy team from knowing that there is a gun in the area.

[spiral compass]

Exactly. You build it so fast it doesn't make sense to pre position it

[sweet cliff]

I can rotate a blue print in I don't know, a couple of seconds? The gun itself turns at 1*/second with just the loader turning (you can only temporarily boost the speed with the gunner because the traverse will max out), so if you need to turn it around it is literally a 3 minute turn, it's faster to disassemble a gun and rebuild it than it is to go 360 degrees.

[spiral compass]

yup

Then 2 shot that heavy tank and move on 🙂 Or 1 shot the light tank. Easy peasy

[fringe berry]

I wish a future update added the ability to hear enemy local chatter that would be “fun” i suppose

[dawn widget]

It would be fun if everyone stayed but there is a strong counterargument that we would all just move to Discord chat for a tactical advantage

[sweet cliff]

If I'm in a tank I'm already on discord to ensure that I can hear the crew over command/proximity chat.

Almost all of the time hearing the crew is more important than hearing someone having casual chats with their buddies, or even worse screaming at their own tank crew on command chat, so I dial down in game voice chat with the wheel on my headset and turn the game up as necessary for the one time every other game that someone drops some important knowledge.

[dawn widget]

I haven’t looked into alternative chat methods on console so maybe it would work better for us. PS how do you know they’re dropping important knowledge if it’s turned down lol

[dawn widget]

Reminds me of a strongly upvoted plea for dead flat horses. U12 maybe.

[sweet cliff]

Well I can normally hear command chat, it just isn't at an overpowering level.

[dawn widget]

Sorry, deflated. Not flat/dead #pc-feedback message

[sweet cliff]

Also we have to use discord because sometimes vivox bombs out and you can't tank without the ability to talk to the squad.

[dawn widget]

Haha the one exclusive feature we do have on console and which I will protect until death

[dawn widget]

True, pretty broken right now

[sweet cliff]

But frequently people are just talking about dumb/irrelevant nonsense on command chat and I don't need that blocking my ability to hear how far to rotate the tank or whatever.

[dawn widget]

“I see a German”

[dull birch]

I hate that I'll never get to experience being in a recon squad unless I join a dead server

[fleet topaz]

When the map changes you should have time to nab a recon slot, surely?

[dull birch]

never made it in before 2 guys have started and locked recon squads after map swap

[spice tartan]

befriend an SSD-owner

[dull birch]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-kenobi-of-course-i-know-him-hes-me-gif-12774102

[rose flax]

Yo, will Helle let loose be free to try it out this weekend ?

[lean orchid]

No, but it's on sale for 25% off

Hell Let Loose only has 1-2 free weekends per year. We already had two earlier this year.

[sweet cliff]

Watch some videos and some streams maybe if you're reluctant to buy it, https://old.reddit.com/r/HellLetLoose/comments/q23r8m/hll_new_player_guide_pc_console/ is mandatory reading for a new player to help you get up and going

The game is better with friends but there are different communities out there you can hop into on PC.

[dawn widget]

anyone just started playing?\

looking to join a group

[gentle oyster]

so where exactly do i put my cursed HLL clips

[lean orchid]

@sweet cliff I appreciate the helpfulness in this channel! Please keep the discord link sharing to DMs or appropriate channels in the Discord. Thanks!

[sweet cliff]

Oh, sorry what's the more appropriate channel in here?

[lean orchid]

The only thing I can think of would be the #pc-divisions-recruitment, which is already handled by NPA's @stray harbor

DMs would probably be best lol

[sweet cliff]

@dawn widget NPA is a welcoming community for new HLL players, it's not hard to find their discord if you are interested.

[lean orchid]

Helps keep the clutter down

[sweet cliff]

For sure, not hurting my feelings at all.

[lean orchid]

Thanks for helping players connect to an HLL Community!

[gentle oyster]

you playin rn?

[upper jewel]

@autumn rose just played a few games as AT focused on shutting down armor with AT guns, I’m man enough to admit when I’m wrong, they are OP. It’s pretty much instant killing a heavy tank if you know where to look/have the gun pointed

Someone in the chat mentioned something along the lines of upgrading AT guns, I recognise that would be a lot of work for the devs (different models for different guns) but it would be more balanced than having one supply box being able to kill multiple tanks

[dawn widget]

yeah but on my own which isn't exactly fun..

[gentle oyster]

check dms

[spice tartan]

yeah but upgrading AT guns is another annoying "press F"-type mechanic that I want to have no part in

like Ninjapulver said in feedback, the main problem is easy tank repairs. damaging a tank is nearly meaningless compared to outright destroying him, so everything that kills a tank is OP and everything that doesnt is underpowered

the tank crew repair torch is a perversion that shouldnt exist

[sweet cliff]

Tanks require constant pressure to prevent repairs, this can be done quite easily if you are trying to kill a tank with more than one person (solo people killing tanks is dumb) and can also be done anywhere within artillery range with a little bit of teamwork.

Tanks would be nigh useless without the repair torch and would need to see some considerable buffs if the crewman torch was removed if we still wanted to see armor in the game being used at all.

[spice tartan]

yeah so buff the armor

to be faster

everybody would have more fun

im sure faster, more maneuverable armor is the armor player's dream

[sweet cliff]

In my admittedly biased opinion, if you could not repair your own tank it would still be ridiculous even if tanks were very fast because it is so easy to damage the tracks and then it would be a sitting duck.

[spice tartan]

at the same time he shouldnt be some sort of indestructible battlefield helicopter that flies behind a building and comes back fully repaired

[spice tartan]

yeah : D

[sweet cliff]

Just like infantry shouldn't get a bandage slapped on their chest and they're up and sprinting right away.

[spice tartan]

thats the point isnt it

screw the tracks and stop the tank

[sweet cliff]

and if a tank kills you, you can't spawn on that same spawn point for 5 minutes so that killing infantry would be actually meaningful.

I understand what you are saying, but tanks need to have some sustain to them because of the difference in spawning mechanics/travel time for armor vs. infantry.

[spice tartan]

armor is not compared with infantry

because your box is way more powerful

[sweet cliff]

It has to be way more powerful because when it dies it costs actual resources, manpower is drained when infantry dies but you can spawn at 0 manpower, fuel does not work that way, tanks also only spawn at HQ, you can spawn all the way up to 2 sectors into the red, when a tank dies it has travel time ahead of it.

[tall orchid]

thats what she said

[spice tartan]

i think you should still be dangerous when tracked

the turrets should prolly be faster

[sweet cliff]

This difference in spawn mechanics is what makes it necessary for armor to be both powerful and have sustain.

[spice tartan]

prolly you should be able to turn if you still have one track

that sort of thing

[sweet cliff]

I agree, when I shoot infantry in the leg you should be reduced to a shuffling walking pace and it isn't fixable until you die and respawn.

[spice tartan]

yeah why not

lets go

sounds good to me

[sweet cliff]

(Infantry TTK is so low that would rarely matter that much)

[upper jewel]

off topic but have you played tarkov by chance?

[sweet cliff]

I have not no.

I did play RO/RO2 and what not that did have some limited features like that, getting shot in the legs would reduce your speed (temporarily? I forget)

Infantry can teleport around the map with the redeploy mechanic faster than armor can move, and if there is an OP close to the tank you're facing a near constant stream of AT coming off of it letting them accumulate damage, that mechanic is what makes the repair tool necessary because it isn't the sort of thing where you can kill the one or two AT guys hassling you and then they're gone for minutes, unless your tank is radically out of position in the middle of nowhere.

[upper jewel]

just that when you get shot in the leg in tarkov you are slowed unless using certain meds, might not actually be the worst idea?

instead of being 1 shot by the garand your slowed

[sweet cliff]

I don't honestly think it would matter that much in HLL because TTK on infantry is low, and you can just respawn.

[upper jewel]

until you bandage

[next oasis]

With the base level of TTK (and BTK) being so low, and lower than pretty much every other multiplayer game out, these nuances to player wound states are meaningless.
There isn't going to be any change worth implementing if the base level TTK/BTK aren't increased first.

[sweet cliff]

BTK?

[next oasis]

Bullets to kill

[sweet cliff]

Gotcha.

I agree.

[hasty tinsel]

Cringe

[next oasis]

As evident from directly above however, players like their easy-mode shooter.
I don't expect BM to change what they've settled with

[autumn rose]

You've earned nothing but respect from me

And yeah idk what they were thinking

I would have been totally fine too if they let AT guns pen the heavies

[tall orchid]

Revert AT guns to U10 values. Implement upgradeable AT guns in U12.

[peak veldt]

Must be tough being a dev at the moment. Do you cater to the hardcore fans, or take the sweet sweet monies of the Fortniters? The former means integrity and legacy but the latter is money in the bank and returns for investors, market metrics etc. It's a tough choice.

However there has to be a decision made at some point whether to just dump the concerns of the casual players (the true casuals, the ones who just want more COD, not beginners) or dump the community that backed the game initially. That decision will then cascade through literally every element of the game, every balancing decision, every priority tree, every hiring decision. There is no halfway house.

Either make the game you wanted to make, or work on an increasingly compromised product chasing the whims of people who don't know what the f they want anyway and will drop your game for the next shiny toy come Summer 2022.

My vote is obviously to make the game this deserves to be, and slowly watch it achieve greatness as the gaming community cements it as the Half-Life of its genre. But is there enough money in the pot to sustain that? Who knows...

[autumn rose]

I would be fine if they added pak43s, 76 M3s, and 122 ATs as an upgrade for the normal pak for like 100 or 150 supies

[tall orchid]

I solved the problem for them, free of charge.

#pc-feedback message

[sweet cliff]

If they did this AT guns would still have received an implicit buff in U11, anecdotally heavies are less present in U11.

[severe flume]

heavies are also more expensive

[tall orchid]

I’m okay with that. It took a touch of skill to successfully engage a medium face to face with an AT gun.

Now, not so much.

[severe flume]

so if you cant make em work (or lose it due to idiocy) its a much bigger impact on your team.

[sweet cliff]

The way to AT gun in U10 was always to build them pre-aimed on the flank of a tank and shoot them in the side.

Only risk was if they rotated on you.

[dawn widget]

Keeping the short termist voices of those new investors and stakeholders at arms length is the key. Otherwise it’s a straight line to analytics replacing vision, and profit acceleration replacing profit. There’s money in the former approach, more than enough to have a good life, and the integrity would fund more ambitious plans. Frictional Games seem to do this well and have a nice model.

[summer shore]

Anyone know if the Devs have considered or tinkered with the idea of adding in the German invasion of France to the game? I personally think it would be a neat idea ... or maybe even the American assault upon Japanese occupied islands ...

[peak veldt]

Right now it’s more important to nail more fundamental mechanics. New maps are always cool tho!

[summer shore]

Eh, just a thought as of current. Wouldn't mind seeing them in action though ...

[sonic fulcrum]

Just bought the game today, and i already know i am going to sink waaay to many hours into this lol

[autumn rose]

Maybe just

Wait for patch :))

[steady lily]

They just released Eastern Front a few months ago. I'd like to see more maps in that theater, as a long-time RO2 fan. Eastern front was the real clash of the titans in WWII, where each side really hated each other.

[drifting magnet]

Question is there a place to warn other people of bad actors?

Like people that don't accidentally teamkill but purposely do it.

[sweet cliff]

There is some sort of collective discord for server admins, the bunker or something like that.

[drifting magnet]

Do you have a link for that so I can report two jerks?

[sweet cliff]

Nope.

[torn prairie]

If you're not a server admin or owner @drifting magnet i'd suggest reporting the bad actor to the community that owns the server you were on and they'll make sure to inform other communities on 'The Bunker' if required

[stuck merlin]

i have a quick question. im running a ryzen 5 5600G with integrated graphics. i even have a chance of running this game?

16gb 3600mhz ram btw

[thin linden]

You should be able to

I run on worse systems

[stuck merlin]

@thin linden thanks, didnt want to drop 30 bucks for nothing

[thin linden]

Though be warned this game is unpredictable and there are a lot of cases were it refuses to run on better systems

[sweet cliff]

Give it a shot and refund it if it doesn't work out.

I obviously don't speak for steam but if you're meeting the minimum advertised specs and it doesn't work I can't see them giving you a hard time about the refund unless you've put too many hours in.

I'd recommend you go play on Stalingrad to see if it meets your performance expectations, that's probably the most demanding map.

[thin linden]

Yeah good advice

[raw frigate]

looking for a badass company to join

[sweet cliff]

try #pc-divisions-recruitment

[real prairie]

I downloaded the game a couple hours ago, looking for some people to play with and learn the ropes

[still vault]

On a scale of 1 to 10 to Yes, how confident is Black Matter in being able to successfully migrate Hell Let Loose to Unreal Engine 4.27.2, up from 4.25.3?

[nimble furnace]

Say whaaaaaat?

[brittle venture]

You can always just join a server and if you get a squad that talks they can always help you out 👍

[crystal tusk]

yo anyone down to do some tanking? im a decent driver?

[steady lily]

This game seriously needs some more punishing recoil. As it is now, everyone runs around like they're railgun turrets.

[still vault]

On which weapons, and what game do you have in mind when thinking of such punishing recoil, in a comparative sense to what ought to be implemented?

[steady lily]

All the weapons. There isn't much recoil in this game.

It should be realistic and it would still be fun.

[dawn widget]

There is recoil

And depends on gun

[steady lily]

I know there is recoil. But it's not enough. It's a common enough complaint and well-known that the recoil in this game is very mild.

[dawn widget]

Seems realistic to me..... Oh is it I haven't seen many complaints regarding that

Apologies

[steady lily]

Also need more weapon sway, especially after running/sprinting.

[still vault]

Do you like or hate RO2 and RS2 recoil systems?

[uncut jasper]

It'd be an absolute upgrade over what we currently have

[tall orchid]

yelling at people moving the halftrack in multiple languages

[uncut jasper]

Delicia Suprema 😂

[upper rivet]

when will the new update drop for ps5?

[prime quartz]

still haven't seen a halftrack

[normal pike]

Give it time, the good teams and comp scene will work out what the best use of it is. We've been using it as a mobile fallback point between mid and defensive positions - between two garrisons for quick numbers bolstering.

[fleet topaz]

I saw the enemy team try to push a flanking move using the half-track the other day, unfortunately for them we had a tank in a good position to take it out but if the tank hadn't been there they would've overwhelmed us at Cattlesheds for sure.

That's a role it can fill very well I think. Get a wave in on a flank, then relocate it a little bit so the enemy can't zero in on it and take it out, and get the second wave in there to support the first.

At the very least you'd force the enemy to shift AT capability over to that flank so that your tank can push on the other flank unimpeded.

[slim fractal]

HALT!

[naive hazel]

Dumb question: Just switched from PS5 to PC. Is there enemy tagging/marking/spotting on PC, or is it limited to certain roles? Anyone can do it on console.

[still vault]

Everyone can do Warning pings, but proper Infantry, Light Vehicle, and Tank markers are for Officers/SLs to place.

[naive hazel]

Even dumber question now: What's the key binding for Warning Pings?

Scratch that, Middle Mouse Button. Duh. Thanks!

[still vault]

I found that swapping a few binds to preferred ones from RO2/RS2 worked.

[kindred jasper]

Are we getting an update for consoles??

[still vault]

It should have been pushed by now.

[dawn widget]

Not yet #console-general-chat message

Also this gets asked every 20 seconds so please give other people that link

[kindred jasper]

Ok

[hardy cedar]

its the accuracy of weapons and no sway thats the biggest culprit here, recoil on its own is rather decent

[next harbor]

lads can you cross play with PC and PS5?

[spiral compass]

No

[severe flume]

Only consoles can play with other consoles. Pc vs pc only

[dawn widget]

Meanwhile on 2042 (where I lurk in the Reddit because it's, well, hilarious) they're begging for console-only crossplay, and to be separated from the PC players 🤷‍♂️

[severe flume]

Of course. M+K has far more precision than a controller for such FPS games

[nimble furnace]

Reddit’s just full of Teenage Dweebs who think they know it all.

[sweet cliff]

If I played on console I'd never want to be mixed with the PC players on a shooter, and similarly I don't want cross play even though I play on a PC because it means that there are console players on my team getting dunked on by the enemy.

[nimble furnace]

Too many kids on console’s too😏

[dry dagger]

Being 100% realistic is not HLLs goal, they focus on mixing great arcade/milsim mechanics

[sonic fulcrum]

I dont get the complaining, its very easy to disable crossplay in the xbox-settings, and when done you only play with other people on xbox (no ps4/5 and no pc).

Its easy and fast to do and i think they even added the function to the settings of the game itself in the latest update (making it even more easy as it can be done from inside the game).

But the bf2042-community (the discord even more so) is a damn toxic place lol

[drowsy kettle]

yo, are the devs going to add new eastern front maps? It would be incredible if we could fight in an even more dense map of Stalingrad (building to building combat) or on the outskirts of Leningrad or Moscow...

[torn prairie]

I'm assuming you're console @drowsy kettle? 🙂

Or do you mean add to the current batch of maps?

The roadmap does suggest new Eastern Front maps will be coming!

[drowsy kettle]

a real f***ing cool map would be 1945 berlin, fighting street to street in a supper dense apocalyptic hell hole with endless waves of soviet armor fighting against static German tanks and flaks...

oh and night time modes with flares

[drowsy kettle]

nah pc gang

[torn prairie]

Ahhh fair dos I read your message incorrectly

[drowsy kettle]

just havent been on in about a month

[torn prairie]

There are two Eastern Front maps coming but I assume they will be here some time in the middle of next year - complete assumption

And if you haven't seen Night maps w/flares are also coming - both according to the roadmap. I'm assuming you've seen the 2021/22 roadmap?

[drowsy kettle]

id prefer the devs to take as long as possible, rather then rush it.

[torn prairie]

I agree Moscow or Leningrad would be dope

Well they are coming at some point!

[drowsy kettle]

pilotable planes would be cool too, 6 v 6 dog fights over head would be insane

[torn prairie]

Now that'd be something - can't see it happening myself mind! Think having pilotable planes on the map sizes wouldn't work hand in hand i'd say

[severe flume]

Also on 50v50 6 people up in the air is a squad not on the ground capping

Its already hard enough for people to build garrys.....

[fleet topaz]

Pull away about another squad to man AA equipment to counter the enemy airplanes and you're two squads short on the cap.

[severe flume]

Yup

[vast vale]

Hello

Dogs of war

Need some help

Is the game worth buying? Servers are full?

Is it hard to find people with mics to play as a team?

[tulip breach]

all full

[vast vale]

I am so dying to buy it what scares me that casuals doing their own tuingie

[tulip breach]

its harder to find someone without mic

[vast vale]

Thingie

Copy that