new-recruit-barracks

[strange forge]

I was killed by my own teammate twice

[tall orchid]

because it'd be a disaster

[strange forge]

And it was the same person

[thin linden]

Don't expect to survive more then 3 min in a combat zone I don't and well I suck at the game so yeah

[thin linden]

oof

[livid isle]

Agreed! Just trying to avoid people's strong ass opinions over the platforms they game on

[dawn widget]

They’d absolutely murder us. If they added M&K detection and allowed only those people to join PC servers it could work, but I don’t think I’ve seen that done yet, it would be a lot of dev, and could be a gateway drug for the [redacted] bunnies

[empty heron]

guys how to play the game in dx12?

[thin linden]

Like how do you set up dx12?

[empty heron]

set launch options -dx12 only?

[thin linden]

Yep thats it

[empty heron]

does it increase fps?

my shutters are gone

but fps not increased!

[thin linden]

It should increase fps

[empty heron]

i use 8gb ram and 1050ti

[thin linden]

or thats what I have been told

[empty heron]

i think it does not have the enuf power

[thin linden]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deyfFvCfQ2k

Use this vid

Covers in game and out

[empty heron]

thank you

[thin linden]

Nah you will be fine I got around the same

[dawn widget]

I havent played for months and I notice that the game runs a lot smoother on high graphics on my 1660 than it used to, did the devs do a lot of optimising n stuff?

[thin linden]

Yeah they released a massive op patch

[dawn widget]

It's great I can actually run the game and be able to see enemies further than 50 metres away lol, a lot more fun

[thin linden]

Yeah its much better

[empty heron]

you have 8gm ram?

[thin linden]

Yep around about that

[empty heron]

how much fps you get?

[thin linden]

I haven't checked

[empty heron]

oh let me know later

[thin linden]

But it may vary since I am used to playing on 200 ping servers at this point

So it may be crappy or good but whatever I have now is good for me

[empty heron]

same

[thin linden]

Yeah

Anyway I will get back to you with my frames when I check them

But make sure you follow the guide it gets best performance with still good looking graphics

[livid isle]

My platform is PS, but I am seeing many new comers worried about dying too quickly. Be patient, as a new comer myself playing everyday since PS release day, what has helped me is reading HLL new player guide, it does not teach everything, but is very insightful to the game types, the understanding of maps, capture zones and of the various roles. 2nd tip, when you get in game find an officer who communicates, if he or your squad mates are not talking leave that squad. An officer of moderate quality will also be regularly laying down outposts as you avance or defend & importantly GARRISONS and requesting other roles to build nodes or drop supplies for them. As a squad ping enemy locations and collaborate. Lastly, if your liking or interested in a particular role research it. There are plenty of good videos online that can help obtain a deeper understanding of the role your playing & how their abilities can do tasks that contribute to all squads.

[thin linden]

Great tips

[thin linden]

As a PS player is it true not many people use there mics?

[livid isle]

Yes and no! I've played with cross play enabled and disabled and I have gotten in matches regardless of console not communicating. What I am seeing occur more than no mic use is people playing the game with no understanding of the game other than being an FPS. To add, many have not read the new player guide so they have not understanding of match types or zones/capture points and you find people wasting time trying to capture locked 🔒 areas. Also since many of us are new, many lack an understanding of their roles and their impact/ability to turn tide of battle.

[thin linden]

In time they will learn

[dawn widget]

On consoles, even if anyone uses their mic - it's for chit chat mostly. The other thing is that rarely someone pings their targets, so when the shooting starts - it's a chaos.

[wind rain]

This game has the 3rd best teamkilling I’ve done

Beaten only by driving my teammates down on gta and drifting over their corpse, and rainbow 6s team kills

The number of people I can kill with almost no penalty is great

I must have killed at least 50 team mates before getting a 2hr ban

Better than the 2 team mates I can kill on r6 lol

[autumn rose]

Legit scum

[wind rain]

Yeah they really should fix r6

2 per half would be nice

You can get more than 2 if you do it carefully, I think using a c4 on a wall and a team mate doesn’t kick or ban you

But just a teammate will

[empty heron]

i killed 11 guys today

[willow jolt]

Evening!

[ember kelp]

If you all really want to see some good informative content for HLL, go check out Hell Let Loose Training Camp on YouTube. Bunch of good guys over there! https://www.youtube.com/c/HellLetLooseTrainingCamp

[rough marsh]

Thanks for the resource. I just started last week and was watching some stuff and reading stuff online. I used to love milsims and was happy one came to console as my pc just isn't up to par anymore.

[dawn widget]

Hey guys, I'm brand new to HLL and I really want to find a squad to play with semi-regularly. I have experience from Squad and Ground Branch as far as tactical shooters go, so I know the basics. I'm having trouble finding servers with English speaking players who use their mics. Any tips for a grunt aside from the usual; don't split off from the squad, move from cover to cover, head on a swivel, etc. Thanks in advance and I hope to see you on the battlefield! Hoorah!

And yeah, I did copy paste this from the pc LFU lol.

[fallen bloom]

If you’re being genuine them you are an absolute butt muncher, stop ruining the other players experience wank face

[wind rain]

But my experience is enhanced through teamkilling. So by not allowing me to do that you are ruining my experience.

[fallen bloom]

I feel you’re trolling, either way you’re a cunt

[wind rain]

I genuinely only play this game to kill friendlies, and for you taking this so seriously I thank you because it’s funny

[fallen bloom]

Sad sad boy

[wind rain]

Dead dead team

[tall orchid]

oh, i'd say about.. 15 years old, 5'4", 120lbs

[tidal yarrow]

TIL the closer you are to your squad the less suppression effects you, especially if Squad lead or Medic are near you
https://youtu.be/ccL9andkr-k

[tall orchid]

whoops sorry, thought someone asked if i thought gunter was some scrawny, limp-wristed kid

[fallen bloom]

I was thinking it to be fair

Really thought how pathetic do you have to be to get fun from ruining other peoples experience? I get your parent hate you

[strange forge]

How do I find a group that use voip?

[solid vale]

Obvious 🎣 , don't feed the troll.

[fallen bloom]

Console looking for unit thread

[fallen bloom]

Troll has had its feed

No moar

[empty heron]

lmao first time I saw katsuya attacking us

i saw white things coming on our way then i saw everything get destroyed

they were not stopping at all

[uncut jasper]

A lot of people have gotten the boot, pimp

Full on server meltdowns

I think most of the trash has taken itself out tbh. It's a lot more civil in here - not that I'm saying K3psu or Monke were trash

We've also had some... "notable" members leave, who really did nothing but just talk down to people every chance they got, so it's been improving.

Optimization patch for Russian maps was nice. Still waiting on some gunplay optimizations yfm

[uncut wolf]

k3psu was one of the few people in here that actually knew about ww2 history. he might have been abrasive sometimes but at least he was knowledgeable

I think he put a copypasta in chat, and mods have been looking for a reason to get rid of him for a while

[uncut jasper]

Copypastas are the best part of this server LMAO

[uncut wolf]

I mean as far as I know monke just called someone a clown and got permad for it so

who knows what mods are doing here

they made this channel to quarantine all the new people from the old channel

which is super weird

[uncut jasper]

I think Monke did it while Max was in here, so the timing was bad

[autumn rose]

I'm sure you love sharing your opinion

Lmao hows it going

I would advise against mod insults tho, they've started to enforce toxicity rules a bit more strictly

Just as a peer warning

I mean

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It was circumstantial tbh

He had always done it generally, he just chose the worst possible time that day

Just happens I guess

K3psu was pretty open that he didnt care if he was banned or not anymore so I guess it was inevitable for him, considering he always commented his opinion

What boat tho

They were just sorta discord gremlins

I dont think either of them actually played the game a lot though is what I mean

They were members of the HLL online community, but not really HLL itself

I mean

Debatable

They were by far some of the most controversial and conflictory people

The others that come to mind have already left or been banned

Idc to be honest though, it's not my fight. I didnt know either of them well enough nor the circumstances on both sides.

I've seen much worse punishments or responses from much larger studios

Banning a member from discord for a circumstance of toxicity or spam is definitely not the worst than official mods or servers can do

HLL is moving toward a much more publish appearance and a less niche and localized community center

It has its pros and cons

[modern rampart]

very nuanced take Bubbles, I like it.

[modern rampart]

I concur. Even though with great pasta comes great responsibility. Gotta be a bit careful with it sometimes..

If by Greek you mean Georgian then yes

ah well

mods have been cleaning house, some others left voluntarily (thankfully in some cases, I'd say..)

a lot of the bans were justified

others maybe not so much

but also debatable

[dawn widget]

He was here a few days ago. He said that he had been banned from at least 30 servers for being ugly. Got quite upset

I don’t think I can, he seemed confused. We actually tried to help him but he started threatening violence and then he got banned

Yeah it’s sad because he looked pretty standard. We judge ourselves harshly

[native furnace]

maybe he was referring to his personality, not his looks

its really too bad if he has a medical condition of any kind, but I shouldnt think its a fair enough reason for him to stay if hes being banned from 30+ servers

[gusty condor]

Hmm someone should @ a mod

@native furnace which group do we at for what is likely some phishing scheme?

Oh hes gone now good

[shrewd sleet]

Got this game today, when I move sometimes it looks a bit blurry and weird, anyway to fix this or make it better?

[uncut jasper]

Assuming you're on PC, turn off motion blur*, SSAO, lower postprocessing quality, put AA to community TAA. That's the best you can get it, although there is still a very slight amount of motion blur that can't be taken out, as it's a UE4 thing

You can't tweak ini files anymore, so it's gonna stay

[strong portal]

check settings for motion blur

[shrewd sleet]

Thank you for the help

[shrewd sleet]

Thank you

[autumn rose]

No cap turning off the anti aliasing actually makes the game easier

Also motion blur is bad and there are no exceptions

[floral sparrow]

Listen we need more paid cosmetics.

[autumn rose]

I've never played a multiplayer shooter and seen motion blur do anything but hinder the player

Do we now

[floral sparrow]

And how do I get rid of this console peasant role

[autumn rose]

Are you a console peasant

[floral sparrow]

No I am on PC

[uncut jasper]

Turning off AA def does help player visibility, but jaggies make my ADHD flare up bad

[autumn rose]

Ask mods then

[floral sparrow]

MODS

[autumn rose]

I cannot do pvp well with AA on

[dawn widget]

Don’t leave

[autumn rose]

It rounds off my damn enemies

And I'm rebarted

[floral sparrow]

We need more paid cosmetics so I can look fresh as fuck in front of all the poor kids who dont have jobs

I will be a whale for this game and fund their development

[autumn rose]

Theres a single paid dlc

For cosmetics

[floral sparrow]

Yeah we need more

[autumn rose]

Just earn the others

The late unlock caps are more proving and cool anyways

[floral sparrow]

I don't feel like levelling up every role YUCKY

[autumn rose]

You dont have to for most of them

Do you main a class

[floral sparrow]

MG and Squad lead but they say I'm too good at both

[autumn rose]

Lvl those up

FJ and airborne will always be unlock and they are honestly the best looking in the game atm

Most of the helmets are rank unlock not class

If that doesn't satisfy you theres a dlc for a soviet cosmetic outfit to support devs

[lucid hearth]

z

[autumn rose]

Ask

<@&365680483276816385> he used the magic words

Can you guys add an auto assign for pc pls

Xbox and ps already has it

[glad pasture]

Look up the meaning of “SOY BOY” from his previous conversation that we have archived and documented.

[warm knot]

?????

[glad pasture]

soy boy means: “Slang used to describe males who completely and utterly lack all necessary masculine qualities. ... The term has become increasingly popular on Twitter, Reddit and YouTube comments, with trolls regularly criticising others they deem to be weak as "soy boys".

[warm knot]

I know what it means, but who were you referring to and what was the conversation?

[glad pasture]

Conversation has been deleted member BANNED.

[warm knot]

🤔

[floral sparrow]

MORE PAID COSMETICS!

[lucid hearth]

lmao why is this convo abt soyboys

[autumn rose]

I think he started the newest convo with insults to mods

sorry @glad pasture

[tall orchid]

B A N N E D

[warm knot]

member = B A N N E D

[uncut jasper]

trolling = B A N N E D

[wind rain]

I just teamkilled the same green name guy 4 times

[dawn widget]

Any snow maps coming out?

[thin linden]

Nothing confirmed

[solid saffron]

Can we shoot through pushes?

[thin linden]

Through what?

[solid saffron]

Pushes

You know

Foliage

[thin linden]

Oh foliage

Yes I believe so

[subtle monolith]

BEANSSSSSSS

[thin linden]

Hello

[subtle monolith]

A bush?

[solid saffron]

Yea

That what I been trying to type

[subtle monolith]

Yea u can

[solid saffron]

Auto correct is a b*tch

Ok thanks

The weird thing is nobody seem to do so, they just much rather peaking right around the corner

Mowed down alot thanks to that

[thin linden]

Yeah it is wierd

[subtle monolith]

Yea because you can’t see in the bush so it’s just easier trying to get a line of sight

[thin linden]

I try to shoot through bushes never kill anyone just a crap shot

[subtle monolith]

I literally get hit in the face by snipers through bushes

[thin linden]

Nice

[subtle monolith]

Or a stray MG Round

[thin linden]

MG rounds always seem to be in just the right spot to shoot me

[hardy cedar]

hipfire mg =150m hs machine

[dawn widget]

so far i enjoy the game I just hate the quiet squads and the really bad commanders

[empty drum]

Is the game only on PS5? I have PS4.

[dawn widget]

@empty drum only for next gen

[gloomy grove]

At what point does the PS5 become current gen?

[dawn widget]

@gloomy grove when more people have it then ps4

[gloomy grove]

The Wii is still probably current gen then

[dawn widget]

Lol

And the game cube

[hollow hollow]

Can both supply boxes in supply truck be dropped next to each other?

[gloomy grove]

Yes. Just drive a little further forward

[hollow hollow]

Hot damn

I can build a fortress around the garrison

[gloomy grove]

Yep

[hollow hollow]

Btw, in Reddit FAQ it's stated that you can shoot mines to make them explode. Ie plant behind enemy tank and make it to boom. It doesn't seem to work for me or am I fcknin stupid?

[thin linden]

Not anti tank mines

[gloomy grove]

Chuck a grenade at it instead

[hollow hollow]

Oh.. how many personal mines does it take to take out tank? Medium tank

Engineer doesn't have grenade

[gloomy grove]

Actually I think the grenade thing changed in u10

It's 2 mines for mediums and heavies if it's run over by the hull

It's like 6/7/8 if it's the tracks. Not sure the exact number

[hollow hollow]

Hm ok

[gloomy grove]

Grenades do blow up at mines, it just deals no damage I think

[hollow hollow]

Does infantry mines dmg tank? If you shoot planted personell mine

[gloomy grove]

No

[night lichen]

what better for support, m1 garand or grease gun?

[subtle monolith]

M1

[thin linden]

M1 garand is better for combat effectiveness but grease gun has ammo boxs so I find that better

[subtle monolith]

I feel like dat the grease is too weak

[night lichen]

it actually is decent a mid range

got all lot of headshot with it

[subtle monolith]

Yea and close but I play mid to far

[night lichen]

i love the m1 but i always like helping out more instead of dropping supplies

i helped out this team blow up a tank with the explosive ammo

[thin linden]

Also that grenade

[night lichen]

oh yeah

i dont know how to accurately throw the gernade

i aim at a way but it goes a different way i expected

i didnt expect

[thin linden]

Um just pray

[violet idol]

@night lichen theres some good utube tutorials....one about nades is pretty good

[night lichen]

alright

[blazing forge]

hi

[thin linden]

Hey mate how you going?

[wet granite]

I believe they plan on doing one russian winter map

[fast edge]

[grim basin]

any tank crewman or tank commander pc player want to play? (eu)

[fallen bloom]

@forest dirge

[grim basin]

?

[vital sapphire]

Hello,

Im looking for active players for friends/a good regiment to play with.

My exp includes carrer lvl 25
a lvl 5 commander with a 21-4 W/L ratio
With excellent battle field tactics
Lvl 3 squad leader role, great at taking orders and coordinating a squad
Massive artillery experience and average 100+ kills a game on the big guns.

Also looking for new players to add to my
Friend list to join my squad and i will help you learn the basics of the game.

If your interested in playing with me please add me on discord and PM

NA player that plays evenings and weekends.

Thanks and good luck out there!

[fallen bloom]

@forest dirge runs a tank crew discord

[grim basin]

ohhh thank you

[violet idol]

@vital sapphire look in the clan thingy page here.

[slim fractal]

Isn't that console tankers though?

[fallen bloom]

Yes

[slim fractal]

Yeah. OP asked PC.

any tank crewman or tank commander pc player want to play? (eu)

[fallen bloom]

Just noticed that 😂

[slim fractal]

Yeah.

[fallen bloom]

My bad

[slim fractal]

People should stick to their channels

#pc-looking-for-unit & #console-looking-for-unit

[forest dirge]

Hell Let Loose Tank Community is a community dedicated to players who gravitate towards the armor units of this game.
The goal is to have a community of mature players who are experienced with tanks on this game being able to always find a full experienced crew to play with. As well as discuss strategies on how to use the tanks more effectively. We can all learn from each other. Eventually events may be held so tank crews can compete to upload a screenshot of the highest kill game in a tank or most vehicles destroyed & more.

Preferably adults only, but as long as you behave maturely you are welcome.

Also preferably players experienced with tanks on this game or those willing to learn. (Guides are in the server) https://discord.gg/xJddVvRwAD

Oh don't join if you're on pc

[atomic pulsar]

you're going to want to stick the recruitment posts in #pc-divisions-recruitment

[tidal yarrow]

Can you still build nodes at HQ during warmup if you go support, drop supplies, go Engie, build node, go support, repeat?

[gloomy grove]

Yes

[tidal yarrow]

Awesome. Thx

[gloomy grove]

You'll only get one node down during warmup if you're solo though

Build manpower first to speed things up

[tidal yarrow]

Ah true, good thinking.

[slim fractal]

Should label it better imo.

HLL Console Tank Community. Feel free to use

[dark elk]

Hi i'm new to the game! What does SL stand for?

[glad pasture]

Squad Lead.

[dark elk]

Ah thank you, so h

so the same as officer?

[unkempt storm]

Yessir

[dark elk]

coolio thanks!

[glad pasture]

Normally a staff sergeant

[wet granite]

I think the ability to hot swap classes to build ninja garries or the node above is cheap.

[eager cloak]

Does XP save during game or only apply after every match? Two scenarios 1) Leave game early ? 2) Lost connection to host?

[unkempt storm]

It saves as it’s earned, you only miss out on end of round bonuses

[mossy trench]

hey guys

[forest dirge]

Naa

[dawn widget]

Hey any good youtubers for this game ?

[solid vale]

Can SL kick Squad members from their squad? If so where is that button, I can't find it.

[native furnace]

Monospacial, Karmakut and Tetradactyl

[dawn widget]

@native furnace thanks GKong

[wicked fossil]

Yes, you have to be on the redeploy screen though. Squad management I believe and then provide a reason for Kick (I.e making room for a friend)

[hazy zinc]

how to add people on steam through the game?

[native furnace]

on scoreboard, left of their name there should be an icon (iirc a head), and a + sign, hovering over it will display 'add friend'

[hazy zinc]

thanks i hadnt noticed it

is it just me or people dont want to be commander

[rigid laurel]

Probably a mix of that and not meeting the lvl requirement of 10.

[hazy zinc]

i never tried since im still new player

[native furnace]

responsibility is scary

thats all goods

[hazy zinc]

level 10?

thats pretty easy to get

im at like 26 and only have 20h

see plenty of people at +200

and nobody wants it

[rigid laurel]

You have to be rank 10 before you can pick it, yeah. There was a phase on the PS version at least where leveling was bugged so that's probably why I'm thinking of it as a hurdle, haha.

[hazy zinc]

i see, but i see like 90% of people are above level 10

[rigid laurel]

It also sucks to be blamed for everything going wrong in a match. How do they say in Saving Private Ryan? Gripes go up, not down.

[hazy zinc]

lately i've been playing officer because even that people dont seem to care much

i see squads of 4 or 5 and nobody officer

[rigid laurel]

I'm saving playing officer a little for playing with my pals because I know none of them wants to be one, hah.

[hazy zinc]

i enjoy it tbh

much easier to learn by having access to leader chat

i try to build ops and relay info to squad but most people ignore it either way

[rigid laurel]

It can get pretty distracting if people are rambling in the squad and the officer chat at the same time.

[hazy zinc]

yeah having officers and squad mates speaking at same time is distracting

doesnt help that voice quality is crap

[rigid laurel]

Yeah, it's a bit all over the place. I tend to throw in a quick "if I'm not responding I'm probably in officer chat right now" as a heads up for the squad.

I'm looking forward to the TKing dieing down a bit though. I recently had a match where an Engineer was hogging up so many supplies and when I came over to set up some nodes he killed me.

[grim basin]

any eu players wanna play?

[thin linden]

@dark elk can we talk here I can't bear the 5 min timer

Is the PS map different the PC map?

[solid vale]

Thank you. No more solo players in my arty squads. 😤

[wicked fossil]

There’s a handful of maps. Rotation seems to be a little less obvious on console and there’s also Russian forces content missing on console currently, but there is more than one map

[prime quartz]

Map rotation on the Pc Is controlled by the server admins

Whereas on console it’s whatever the game is pre-set to do

[gloomy grove]

One map at a time, running through the gamemode options. 1 X warfare, 2 X offensive if applicable. I believe, at least

[dawn widget]

Join The 13th Guards Rifle Division NOW! We are a xbox milsim and we are only active in Weekends and our timezone is EST! All of Our Members are 14+! Have a nice day!

[night lichen]

how the performance on xbox for hell let loose? My friends interested in buying it

[shy lodge]

that's interesting. would you mind checking your loader.log? if it is indeed working and not just temporarily (which usually happens after an eac update for a short while) there should be a success message in there.

sure, no hurries 🙂

[coarse mason]

I have a quick question

How do I party up with someone who's on Xbox or PC?

[buoyant schooner]

U add them and then invite them to your party

[coarse mason]

but how? I'm on pc with one friend and the other is on xbox

[buoyant schooner]

Theres a box in the bottom right of the screen, click it and there's the stuff should be in

[coarse mason]

I don't have a box in the bottom right of my screen, that seems to be the issue. Is it because I'm on pc?

[buoyant schooner]

Or under ur name should be a plus

[coarse mason]

I see all the social media icons on the bottom and that's it

[buoyant schooner]

.

[coarse mason]

I don't see ANY of that 🤔

it shows two different version numbers between my client and his xbox version

[buoyant schooner]

Idk

[dawn widget]

HLL is only cross-platform for Xbox-PlayStation.

PC is not included

[hazy zinc]

so i just climbed on an armor vehicle and died after crouching

why

[uncut wolf]

They never put in the effort to make tanks ridable. If they go on first gear without stopping or hitting a bump you can ride, otherwise you'll clip slightly and get "run over"

[hazy zinc]

damn that sucks

[uncut jasper]

ez teamkills

[severe vector]

I'm really excited this came out as free for PSN

[crisp thistle]

so i have a question, how do tanks health work? is it component based or is it just shoot rockets anywhere until it dies?

[rigid laurel]

you also can't party up between console and pc

[native furnace]

it is component based and dependent on where you shoot

as well as what tank/shell you are using, vs what tank you face

for example, a light tank cannot penetrate a heavy from the front armour

a heavy can penetrate any tank from the front armour, and rightly so

[crisp thistle]

thats what i wasnt sure, ive shot a few with rockets and i couldnt tell if it was health bar or compnents

[native furnace]

depending on where you shoot, and what you shoot - the enemy tank will lose hull health (which is general health), and health on a certain componant

if you shoot the tracks it will lose track health etc etc

[native furnace]

devs are aiming to distinguish that a bit more based on the latest dev blog update.
Generally, if you hear the 'thunk' noise, and see sparks fly off the other tank you've penetrated a good spot and its hull health will have decreased

components its trickier to visually tell I believe, but it doesnt matter too much in tank combat anyway

The Tank Bible will tell you absolutely everything you need to know in depth btw if you're looking for an informative source of info

[crisp thistle]

where can i find that?

[tall orchid]

https://theline.gg/tankbible

if you’re curious about specific tank hitboxes

https://icilia95.wixsite.com/tankopedia

for instance, if you shoot the ass of a 76 with a tiger and your round deflects

that second link will tell you why

[crisp thistle]

thank you!!!!!!!

[tall orchid]

👌

[shy lodge]

thats not the loader.log though

it's in the steamlibrary folder/steamapps/compatdata/[HLL-steamid]/pfx folder and there somewhere in drive_c/users/steamuser/Application\ Data/EasyAntiCheat/XXX/loader.log or something like that. it says something like "[EAC Callback] Code 914. Message: ''." - if its empty like that instead of success then its only working temporarily due to an update to EAC. seems to be common that you can play with proton for a couple of days to weeks until its not working anymore

[dawn widget]

Howdy

[versed fulcrum]

hiya 🙂

[dawn widget]

Hey bud

[humble leaf]

How many rockets you need to kill a tank?

[tall orchid]

depends on the tank. 3 to the ass for a heavy

[humble leaf]

So i have to redepoly 2 times to kill a single one? Damn

[tall orchid]

or.. and bear with me here

ask a support guy to work with you to resupply your rockets

or use a satchel

[humble leaf]

Yeah they wont listen to shit if i try they either ignore or get popped in the head out of nowhere or just get machine gunned by the tank

[wet granite]

Usually infrequent to have explosive ammo in arms reach

[tall orchid]

you can blow out a tank's engine, and it ain't goin nowhere

well, yeah, i can't speak for the console experience

[humble leaf]

Where is it i wonder?

[wet granite]

PC too

[tall orchid]

back of the tank, lower section

usually a grated area

[humble leaf]

Ill keep that in mind

[tall orchid]

but yeah, you can solo kill everything else with two rockets

[wet granite]

Is there any chance of a non-penetration on the front of the tank with a qualified canon?

[tall orchid]

define qualified canon

[wet granite]

Heavy against medium armor or even heavy vs heavy armor

With no angle to deflect from, a hull square in front

[tall orchid]

shots fired outside of about 15 degrees off the perpendicular will usually ricochet off a flat surface

[wet granite]

Yeah, but if it's totally square, would anything prevent a pen, such as Rng or range?

[tall orchid]

no

heavy oneshots a medium to the front armor, heavy vs heavy is 2

[wet granite]

And the humbo 75 has more armor than the stock 75, and is thus the only one that can fight the panther head on? And the stock, can it pen panther front? That's the only thing I'm unclear on.

[tall orchid]

the medium sherman can fight the panther head on

it has very specific weakspots though - the 'cheeks' on the turret

[wet granite]

In 2, 3, or more shots? And I'm talking hull's vs hulls.

[tall orchid]

2 shots

front hull vs front hull, they'll bounce off all day

https://theline.gg/tankbible

[wet granite]

My style is flanking around with the mediums so I never really knew lol

[solid vale]

Sounds like on console you gotta make friends or you get zero help from random people. That sucks. 😢

But then how do you make friends with the randoms. 🤔 Such a conundrum.

[hard wraith]

Yeah I have no friends and I have no idea what I’m doing

[solid vale]

What's your preferred class. I play engi and medic a lot.

[hard wraith]

No idea I’ve only played one game

I don’t care about class i just need friends to play with

[solid vale]

Well I asked because riflemen and assault are all over. They don't stand out that much to people.

IMO (and please correct me)

A medic, engi, supply can have more impact on (the other) individual players making it easier to find teammates/friends.

People will notice a good one of those, they won't notice a good rifleman.

[grim topaz]

Oi, a lot of changes since early access? Slower movement, no K/D?

What has changed?

[native furnace]

two rear engine. ALWAYS aim for the rear

unless theyve changed it, but ive killed with two to the rear iirc

[vale crest]

Hey everyone I literally just downloaded and am sitting on the main menu. If anyone is looking for a green player and is on to play let me know

[uncut wolf]

it changed in u10, 3 shots to kill a heavy from behind

[native furnace]

good thing I went to ambush loadout, and never looked back

satchel is king

[flat breach]

hello..
I am a player from Indonesia, I want to share about the connection that we Indonesian players experience. how to make ping stable if we play on servers like PBS, Easy Companny, 82AD or garrybuster our ping is above 300 and even up to 1000.

😫

[native furnace]

If you're Indo the closest servers I believe you can find will be exclusively OCE, more specifically - Australia.
That means, BigDgaming. GarryBusters and all the other ones tagged with AU.

Otherwise I have no real solutions, I'm NZ player and even still experience most games above 100 ping

[flat breach]

in fact servers with low ping ie CN / Hong Kong are usually below 200. While AU / Australia is still above 200. btw thank you for the response😩

• don't understand what the commander and squad lead's orders are

when we play on CN server we have difficulty in communication. because we don't understand mandarin lol

[thin linden]

No I'm talking about actul in map design like when press m does it look different on pc or ps?

[shy lodge]

unfortunately that's not loader.log, but gamelauncher.log which always says eac loaded in-game even if it doesnt work officially work. anyways, judging from the "launcher progress 0%" and "CDN connection failed" it looks like it's just another false positive that we've seen a lot lately either because of an EAC update (https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/q6cqeq/paladins_have_actually_enabled_eac_support_logs/hgbas6e/) or some other weird issue. but as long as it isn't giving a success message in loader.log it's most likely not officially working.

[hazy zinc]

how can people see me crawling through the grass

[thin linden]

Which sort of grass?

[buoyant schooner]

Ik it's annoying

[thin linden]

It probaly either your face what stands out in bushes or gun shot flashes what can be seen in bushes/grass

[hazy zinc]

the green grass idk

[thin linden]

But if it is in wheat you shouldn't be able to be seen

[thin linden]

Yeah it is pretty easy to spot someone in it

[hazy zinc]

yeah its not the wheat its the green one

but its still taller than me crawling

[thin linden]

As I said your face and gunshots

Also if you move in grass they will still be able to see it

[hazy zinc]

i mean they see me without even firing

i cant see anyone unless they're in front of me or im much higher

its annoying af

[thin linden]

They had to reduce the amount of foliage in recent updates because of people complaining they couldn't see people in bushes

So thats why you are bieng seen

Thats and the reasons above

@hazy zinc they could also be playing on low level setting what drastically reduces the amount of foliage

[hazy zinc]

damn that shouldnt be possible

[thin linden]

Yeah it is pretty broken but not many people play on this setting because it looks horrible

Also foliage really doesn't help your frames

[rigid laurel]

If you're playing on console the aim slowdown on a target could also play a role

[thin linden]

Thats is true but based on the symbol they look like a pc

But I may be wrong

[hazy zinc]

im on pc

[thin linden]

Yeah

Just don't try hiding in grass

Except for Kursk

For some reason it works on that map

[kindred drum]

There is many reasons. If they have a elevated position for a start. And the fact that the rendering over distance is this game is terrible

[buoyant schooner]

Why can't I join voice comes in it sometimes like I do everything it says but it doesn't connect and I keep trying still doesn't work I got it to work once yesterday put of the few hours I was playing hll

[thin linden]

It does have rank stats if you mean like you are lvl 10 or something like that

And yes it is worth it my opinion

Great if you want to start to get into milsims

It has some major flaws but it is fun and thats what matters

[thin linden]

That is a question for tech support

[buoyant schooner]

Yep I didn't see it till just mow

Now*

[thin linden]

All good mate

[empty heron]

why does german always wins ?

[mental sundial]

Not true

May just be a well organized team on German side for a long stretch of hours

[dawn widget]

Bomb ass victory song to hear at the end of a game🕺🎵

[fallen garden]

this game doesnt have a training?

[warm knot]

no

[fallen garden]

So how does a new person to the game learn to play it without messing up their team?

[warm knot]

read the manual and watch some videos

it's not that hard to get honestly

[fallen garden]

Ok i will watch some videos i left a teamate to die because i didnt know how to heal him i felt bad

[warm knot]

only medics can revive wounded allies

[dawn widget]

The manual will give you the basics, and asking other players in-game is always an option (it’s a good conversation-starter if nothing else).

Best of luck! 🙂

[fallen garden]

lol thanks, ive played two games been destoryed in both but i like it ill go over the manual and then watch some videos.

[formal prawn]

It takes a few games of messing up but after that you’ll get it

I’m curious where I can find a community of new console players that I can squad up with on random nights

[dawn widget]

I’m being destroyed as well… I think everyone is. It’s not your average shooter, so forget about keeping a nice K/D ratio and instead focus on helping the team with whatever you can bring to the table. This is a strategy game, not an FPS (it’s a FPS, but you get my point).

AND, don’t be lured into following the heard in their head-on-attacks towards certain death. Use the flanks, find openings. The games are long, there’s time to be sneaky.

Also - this is one of the only games where there’s no shame in camping. If everyone is defending the front-line, you can predict there’s going to be an attack from the flanks. Set up you’re machine gun, sit tight, and go ratatatatatatata as soon as you see something moving.

And, communicate… it makes it more fun.

[native furnace]

good job

[slim fractal]

👋

[uncut wolf]

he just wants to say hi to us

[solid vale]

Oh I thought we were waving at each other. 😏

[empty heron]

just shoot anything that moves without green and blue marker

[solid vale]

How do I add servers to favorites.

[violet idol]

@fallen garden 1st die a lot, after a while youll die less.
Comms, differing between squad and local, both have there place.
Dont lonewolf to much, stick together.
Listen, for movement, it'll often get in the right position.
The rest will come.

@solid vale click the star thats on the left hand side, of the server list.
It will turn from grey to gold/yellow.

[analog gust]

good morning New recruits welcome to HLL hope you all gave a fun

[tired sable]

Looking to join a group to play with, hard to find teammates that actually use teamwork.

[dawn widget]

GBR are looking for good arty crew

[split ice]

Yo anyone here

[pearl pawn]

why does the american rifleman only have the two loadouts and german 3 ?

[vivid flint]

Because German infantry are cooler

[buoyant schooner]

Because Kar98 k is dope but can be better

[next oasis]

the k98 does nothing better than any other rifle

it is objectively the worst rifle in the game

[warm knot]

that title belongs to the 1891 mosin

[next oasis]

yeah
bolt actions are objectively the worst

[vivid flint]

Bolt actions are awesome tho

Springfield would be nic e

[clear cedar]

Hello

[tropic nova]

helllo yall!!

downloading the game lol 🙂

[dawn widget]

welcome

[hard fable]

Do you think eventually on maps like Utah Beach both US and UK forces could attack germany?

[solid vale]

98K is the best rifle in WW2 dont @ me bros.

[lucid hearth]

hitler

[near haven]

Anybody here wants to make up a team? You must live in Asia. Japan/Korea would be best... but anywhere close to Japan is fine! English and日本語 OK(German is fine too)

[dawn widget]

we are dwindling people of culture. these people with can’t sway us. let them keep their objective facts

Virgin M1
Doesn’t need recycling because user can’t aim
Has silly ping noise to help user, like a V-Tech laptop for toddlers
Named after a British motorway

Chad 98k
Buffs mental health with every hit
Regular tactile shots create rhythm, like handwriting vs using a phone keyboard
Named after a time with 2.45* more war than Warhammer

[hollow hollow]

monoespecial said in a yt video that nodes generate xp after being build... does he mean that you get 10xp/min or when commander use an ability that require the resources from a constructed node?

[dawn widget]

I don’t know if it’s 10xp but yes, it’s every minute.

[zinc jacinth]

Has anyone worked out the sensitivity settings on console yet?

[hollow hollow]

That you as a player who built the node will get, or only to commander resources?

Or both..?

[dawn widget]

You get the xp, team gets some resources. Manpower is useful for respawn rate as well as helping commander bank account.

[devout inlet]

Year turn down your movement deadzone to zero. Dont touch ads sens. Turn up look sensitivity to your specification. I toggle lean on. I turn off motion blur adaptive triggers.

[zinc jacinth]

Thanks will try this tomorrow. Seems the guys i was playing against tonight didnt have the same issues as me. So the adaptive triggers keep turning themselves back on for you as well? Is that a bug?

[gloomy grove]

Manpower does nothing for respawn rate

[dawn widget]

Ok, sorry for the fake news. I read that here though. Forward garrison spawn time or something. Does manpower have no similar effect at all then?

[gloomy grove]

Nothing at all. Garrisons are always max 40 second spawn

[dawn widget]

how can u even play thisgame, every server is full and the ones who is 96/100 shows tere are 4ppl i nque wtf

[tall orchid]

wait like everyone else 😉

[mental sundial]

I always scan for 80-90/100 first

[unkempt storm]

Just to elaborate, manpower is only used for additional respawns in offensive mode after the timer reaches 0:00, outside of commander abilities

[dawn widget]

Ahhhh that’s what that number means. Thank you

[timber knot]

wtf why #hll-memes is private channel

[gloomy grove]

Only if you are actively capping at 00:00. I've seen it once in 900 hours 😅

[unkempt storm]

WHO ISNT ACTIVELY CAPPING IN OFFENSIVE LETS BE REAL

[heavy token]

yo do you guys know how to use voice comms? it seems HLL isnt picking up my mic

[glad pasture]

Ensure your mic is activated in Windows

[dawn widget]

It happened for the first time to me two days ago. Nobody had seen it before and we’d been congratulating each other. 30 seconds left so half the team yolo’d forward, including me in my tank, running four people over. Then we lost the point and two more points and the match

No more end of match yolo for me

[spiral compass]

I've experienced the same thing. Must frustrating game ever 😢

[violet idol]

@dawn widget @spiral compass you were probably on Offensive mode that you can loose in 10sec, warfare mode if you have the point then the enemy need roughly 1min 30sec.

[spiral compass]

Yes it was Offensive. There was less than 10 seconds remaining and everyone were vitually high fiving and tk'ing. Time ran out, OT kicked in and the other team won the point. Then steamrolled us to win the game.
That was one of the uninstall moments for me. I had to stop playing for the day

[dawn widget]

I don’t think you can lose an Offensive point in 10s… can you? The problem was it started going into overtime seconds before the match ended.

[dawn widget]

We might have been in the same game. We had that place locked down tight

[spiral compass]

Yeah, could be ? What's your in-game name ?

[violet idol]

@dawn widget the enemy in offensive can win up to the last sec....depends on how much control you have over the point.

[spiral compass]

same as here ? must frustrating game ever

[dawn widget]

Same

[dawn widget]

Are we talking about the same thing, or not the same thing

[spiral compass]

I spent so much time building stuff on the point only to see it all wasted in a minute 😦

And then our own arty tk'ed us to finish it off..lol

[violet idol]

@dawn widget you lost a game where you are confused how, im suggesting if you dont defend on offensive mode to the last sec, you can loose....its not the same as warfare mode.

[dawn widget]

So in Discord and some other apps, you can scroll up to see parts of the conversation that happened earlier

[tall orchid]

you can trigger overtime as long as you're either contesting or capturing a point (as attackers) when time expires

i thiiiiink it lasts as long as you're in one of those two states

they changed something with U10, but im fuzzy on what exactly

[gloomy grove]

2 minute cap for warfare

1 minute cap for offensive

[gloomy grove]

That's my understanding

Or if you run out of manpower, of course

[violet idol]

👍

[gloomy grove]

It used to be only manpower, but you could cheese infinite games to grind with nodes so they changed it

[dawn widget]

man this game is so strange, i cant see no enemy but keep getting killed across the map

literlly, waste of 40euro

[tall orchid]

this game might not be for you

[dawn widget]

Keep at it, you’ll figure it out

[dawn widget]

keep getting killed from nowhere

cant see a single enemy lol

[azure urchin]

But once you run up on a German squad and dump a mag of 45. AUTO on them trust me…it gets better

[dawn widget]

In two days you’ll be able to spot a single pixel moving. Good life skill

[prime quartz]

buy a better monitor

[dawn widget]

ye sure, i can see enemy in literlly every other shooting game and now its faulty monitor *facepalm

[prime quartz]

no

[spiral compass]

This game is a bit frustrated at first. But keep plugging and it'll work out

[prime quartz]

but the design of HLL means that a better monitor is p2w

[heavy token]

depends how you define "better monitor"

[prime quartz]

higher res

1440p or 2160p

most games dont have super long range engagements with 1HK weapons

in visually complex environments

HLL does so it creates a push towards better clarity and you can really only get that via pushing more pixels

ergo higher resolution will give you better results

since you will be able to see farther in a literal sense

[slim fractal]

Refund?

[gloomy grove]

Have you tried moving less?

[spiral compass]

Move from cover to cover. Get a feel of the surroundings. Communicate with squad mates. hold angles, don't force things. patience

[heavy token]

I use a fast monitor

I dont care at all about resolution, HLL looks awesome for me

[slim fractal]

HLL should really add red triangles over enemies.

[heavy token]

@slim fractal really?? why isnt it good rn?

[slim fractal]

The game is so hard. You barely can spot anyone.

[spiral compass]

And aim assist , so it auto snaps to enemy's head

[slim fractal]

You have blue triangles & glowing objectives already so why not red triangles.

[spiral compass]

Maybe auto shoot as well..And auto move ? yeah..

[next oasis]

it essentially does this, but in reverse

[heavy token]

call of duty doesnt have red triangles above heads

[slim fractal]

Implemented in console version btw. Should port over to PC.

[heavy token]

I dont think hll should either

its pretty standard for enemies to have nothing and teammates to have markers

[slim fractal]

I've been lately playing BFBC2 so I'm influenced by their great design choices. Classics never die you know.

[heavy token]

never played it so idk

[gloomy grove]

People are too harsh on cod. It has complex gunplay

[heavy token]

idk if youre being sarcastic but I think it does too

[tall orchid]

what is complex gunplay

[spiral compass]

👀

[tall orchid]

batter up

[spiral compass]

Saltiness increases

[heavy token]

well, its arcadey, its fun, I guess complex isnt the right word but its amazing

[next oasis]

it requires a lot more engagement from the player than HLL does

[heavy token]

id say a game I love that has complex gunplay is dayz

[tall orchid]

yeah but

what is

complex

gun

play

[heavy token]

I explain it like this, COD is an awesome arcade shooter, BF is an awesome sandbox shooter, Arma 3/HLL are awesome mil sims

[gloomy grove]

I swear you have an alert on for the word 'gunplay'

[next oasis]

that's possible?

[gloomy grove]

I think you'd find a way if it was

[next oasis]

just good timing I'm sure

[spiral compass]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-press-la-noire-gif-18717264

[azure urchin]

Anyone on PC tryna play?

[gloomy grove]

But yeah, cod does have some engagement required. It kinda dumbs itself down as it goes though

[uncut jasper]

Full auto brrrrt and hitmarker sound activates my neurons

[golden elbow]

Any new players here that want help from an experienced player? Has 1300 hrs (level 188), has Mic, and knows the ins and outs of this game? Shoot me a DM. I am willing to show anyone the ropes how this game should be played and what good teamwork looks like. I am NA based EST and on nearly every night.

[royal trellis]

when is the winter warfare pack coming back out?

[tall orchid]

winter

[slim fractal]

Summer DLC came out in September, so I'd expect Winter DLC to drop in March.

[royal trellis]

okee, thx

[tall orchid]

guess he ain't a fan of brevity

[royal trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/middle-finger-running-away-run-flip-off-flipping-off-gif-16031539

[solid vale]

Mauser remade the 98K. You can buy brand new 98K, modern. They also have a big game version that uses .375 H&H Magnum, a .416 Rigby or even a .450 Rigby.

[dawn widget]

Maybe you can but I live in the UK. I can buy a water pistol

[autumn rose]

You have a permit for it?

[solid vale]

The real question is does he have a permit for discord. 😏

[autumn rose]

Facts

I'm calling your local law enforcement rep

You're gonna get a stern talking to and a hefty fine

[dawn widget]

Aww

[dreamy saddle]

New as

Any teams

[solid vale]

@dreamy saddle welcome and enjoy.

Check #pc-divisions-recruitment and #pc-looking-for-unit

[dawn widget]

@dreamy saddle #console-looking-for-unit might be more appropriate

[pseudo atlas]

I have been playing the game on Linux via Proton super smoothly for about a week, and other people on protondb seem to be saying the same. However, all the sudden I'm getting kicked by EAC again. Anyone else having issues?

[violet idol]

Im guessing you maybe one of a small number playing through linux, maybe wrong 🤷‍♂️

[dawn widget]

lol I finished a game and got the Katonk achievement where I apparently got 100 kills with a spade

(I didn’t get a single spade kill)

[blazing forge]

Are there any UK based clans out there?

[vast turret]

im pretty sure something fucky happened. i also got it, as did my friend in a different server at the same time

[dawn widget]

Yeah BigD Gaming?

[vast turret]

we both got it at 7:35 pm

i was in bigd

[dawn widget]

Yeah

[vast turret]

idk what he was in

[dawn widget]

What team were you on

[vast turret]

allied

[dawn widget]

Allied too

Yeah do you know any other players or

[vast turret]

yeah i asked in chat and someone on my team also got it

[dawn widget]

Was it only allied or was it axis as well

[vast turret]

my friend who was in a different server was allied as well

[dawn widget]

And he got it as well?

[vast turret]

yep

[dawn widget]

Different map from Normandy?

Omaha Beach

[vast turret]

he was on kursk, i was on some western map i cant remember

[dawn widget]

Ohhh you were on a different bigd server

yeah that’s weird I wonder if the percentage of the achievement will spike up

[vast turret]

it defs wasnt omaha that i was on

[dawn widget]

Weird

[lyric lance]

Check recruitment

#pc-looking-for-unit *

[celest geyser]

Dowloaded game and installed, not played yet. OK to just jump in and make a dick of myself?

[violet idol]

Thats about it 👌

[hard fable]

oi oi

[celest geyser]

@violet idolGot it, still couldnt work out how to reload I'd better check on that 🙂

[violet idol]

@celest geyser R

V lay down 😉

[torn edge]

For me game was working fine on Sunday, multiplayer and everything, but today it just shows a blue progress bar then crashes, i think it’s eac crashing rather than hll since it happens before the hll window even opens

[pseudo atlas]

hm

Its letting me into games for a moment, before it kicks me with the anti cheat error message, like it used to before they enabled eac support for proton

i wonder if they turned it off again or something

which would suck because i bought the game when people started to say that it ran under proton :/

[stoic abyss]

love it when a clan comes on to ruin a game by just capping all points at once

thanks for wasting everyones time

[uncut jasper]

Coordination vs. no coordination

[next oasis]

team who knows how to spawnbomb vs team who insists on playing with a reliance of useless "communication"

[stoic abyss]

how is the game fun if you just cap every point at once instead of just playing the game point by point? Just sucks the fun out of the game completely

[native furnace]

You cant do that

regardless of the mode, only one objective is available to cap at any given time

probably you meant theyve got guys sitting on ALL the caps pre-emptively so they can cap each one as soon as it becomes available

Kind of a shit match, but you cant really fault their teamwork because theyre technically playing it as they ideally should be

[stoic abyss]

yeah thats what i was talking about

[clear marsh]

Ideally you'd have a squad or two doing Logi and would pick up on there being enemies on the rear points.

[stoic abyss]

i mean to me its just a game faw not really team work

its normally just one guy on each point

[clear marsh]

You're losing points to recon squads?

[next oasis]

Not necessarily. It's because cap zones follows a simple "majority rules" logic

[stoic abyss]

if there was a simply timer like post scriptum it would just be a bit better in my option to give people a chance to fall back

[next oasis]

You're not necessarily fighting over anything. You simply need to have one more "body" on the capzone than your enemy.

It limits the scope of the game

[stoic abyss]

yes i know how it works

not really

[tidal yarrow]

That's HLL in a nutshell

[next oasis]

It's all shrouded in ambiguity because they introduce zones and Commander ability magic that inflate what one "body" is worth.

It's not good, or satisfying.

[clear marsh]

So the issue you're having is...
They sent a recon squad to each of the points and your team didn't have anybody on them to defend?

[stoic abyss]

so you have a guy sitting on your first objective the whole game?

[clear marsh]

A squad, yes.

[next oasis]

It seems like the devs are more keen on having players solve their own shortcomings in game logic. The easy go-to answer would be to just say, "just defend better", and while it is true, it doesn't make it any more sensible or satisfying when you're speaking of the main objective of the game -capturing zones. A couple dudes capping the next zone all by themselves will always be stupid.

[clear marsh]

Typically we organise a squad to build/place Garry's on the back objectives for fallback/recon spotting.

[stoic abyss]

so you have a squad on each objective the whole game?

nice trolling dude

[next oasis]

I've suggested before that there ought to be a reasonable threshold of "presence" that needs to be surpassed before the cap sways in one direction or another, rather than just basing it off of simple majority rules.
So like a +5 or +10 soldier spread required, rather than just a +1 minimum.
However, it doesn't seem like BM has any intention of changing this sort of stuff, or screw with the logic that they've had since damn near the beginning of the games development.

[stoic abyss]

Yeah i mean, it's just a suggestion to solve a problem from my end tbh.

[clear marsh]

I'm not trolling..
We seriously do that.

[tidal yarrow]

Can you disassemble buildings faster if more people hold F next to them or no?

[next oasis]

no

[tidal yarrow]

Damn

One thing about building fortifications that sucks is when you have to disassemble them. It takes forever

[dawn widget]

Anyone know how to zoom with a sniper

[loud bridge]

I understand right:
You want to talk with a Sniper through a Zoom Video conference?

[solid vale]

What if you played defense instead of forward spawning. 🤔

[stoic abyss]

I do play defensive but when 1 in every 20 people use a mic it’s hard to coordinate.

[empty heron]

nah I play solo and die

[hardy cedar]

dont even bother, the game is very esports in nature. The realism and whatnot is mostly to sell it to people like me and you, probably

people dont like their meta changed, they have spent 2 years to master this, dont want to go changing it now, they will leave the game. On the other hand, we are getting menu animations! cringe

[novel wagon]

2 years to master the truck meta

Superb

[prime quartz]

they still haven't

[latent pelican]

Hello

[hasty tinsel]

let's be honest
the fpp animations suck

they all have weird delays in them

[hollow hollow]

Is it only the 2nd support loadout that can drop explosive ammo boxes?

[hasty tinsel]

technically, german rifleman 3rd loadout also gets rocket ammo

that's the only exception iirc

[hollow hollow]

Good chance getting refill for the bazooka 😅

[prime quartz]

best way to reload is to just die

[hollow hollow]

Why don't rifleman have explosives from start? Useless class otherwise

[hasty tinsel]

because loadouts are a half assed system

[hollow hollow]

Yes it's frustrating looking for support or rifleman expecting to get ammo/explosive and they're like "wrong loadout" and there's no way telling..
Redeploy to reload is cheesy

Btw when can commander as earliest use its abilities?

[hasty tinsel]

about 2-5min into the match

give an extra few minutes for some of the abilities

[hollow hollow]

Ok

[hasty tinsel]

the first and most important thing you should be doing constantly is dropping supplies

[hollow hollow]

I've got a fix for garrisons not being build early game: have a 2nd default supply truck spawned at another HQ so the chances gets lower for a retard rifleman to grab it and shove it into trench making it useless. I think just another supply truck is enough.

I've played several games and ny my experience commanders are ego and don't want to drop supplies at my mark nor spawn supply truck even when they know I'm Engineer

[hasty tinsel]

i only had one case like that

"commander can i have supplies for a garry?"
"no, get your support to do it" ❓ ❓

you're not doing more important stuff and i'm asking because i don't have support

[slim fractal]

I've got a better fix: make default garrisons/spawns already in the 2nd sector at the start of the round. Instead of everyone rushing from the HQ, battle starts sooner when the teams are instantly at the opposite side of the middle sector that is about to be taken by another team. Only tankers will have to spawn all the way down to the HQ. That would fix the current truck rush meta which is pointless and just poor design

[hollow hollow]

Yes trying to catch a ride is just stressful in a not fun way

[hollow hollow]

Is it considered ok to headshot the commander? I was fucking close when he refused to drop at supplies for me for no apparent reason..

[slim fractal]

Also btw, 1,5mins in during the warmup and a commander can actually spawn the 2nd supply truck.

[hollow hollow]

Oh even during warmup? Ok

[slim fractal]

And the 3rd right after the warmup is over.

Since the cooldown is only 1,5min

[hollow hollow]

Then I can just chill at spawn, and if no cmdr I can take role and spawn truck and change back

No stress

Even better I take cmdr, wait 1,5min, take freshly spawned supply truck and drive to 1st or 2nd point and build a garry, switch to engineer and spawn garry and build nodes, repair station and fortification for the rest of 250 supplies

Cheesy but team wouldn't mind..

[native furnace]

This is part of the reason I prefer to play armour, some of us poor cunts cant even load into the game fast enough to hitch a ride

[hardy cedar]

I wrote a sizeable observation about how OPs are just infinite spawn points that promote meatgrinder gameplay, and i got instant flak from the sweatlord majority about how i should l2p the game and whatnot.
The fact that HLL has LEAGUE(s) which are covered in the same fashion as any other FPS esports, with the score overlay, over hyped announcer guy on 14 cans of energy drink. Where there is tournaments, there is people who exploit the game to the max with tactics that are nor realistic nor simulation, its just a way to win.
The fact that people dgaf about medics or dying in also shows this is not a sim, OP is just around the corner.
I have played arma2 for a year, with maximum simulatiuon mods and whatnot and only 1 life per mission with briefings taking 30-60 minutes PER MISSION, and then the mission taking about 60-120 minutes. If i died in main base because some guy forgot to put the safety on, i was out. That is simulation. HLL is, I say again, a "realistic" version of BFV.

[prime quartz]

lol, who seriously thinks HLL is a sim?

its BFV with bigger/better maps and worse shooting

So I don't think OPs are the problem as much as garrisons and the cap meta

Creating a focus on spawn attrition gameplay

[native furnace]

and superior tank combat

fucking hate tanks in BF5, shit to use, shit to blow up

[brittle lagoon]

I will say… I wish the OP/Garrison mechanics worked like in Post Scriptum. We could have a MSP (Mobile Spawn Point… a truck), Rally Points (placed by the SL with a radio man nearby, in our case, the support role).

[prime quartz]

Vehicle combat in BFV isn't great

but the current armor balance in HLL leaves a lot to be desired

its essentially a pure heavy tank meta

[native furnace]

no, not necessarily

[prime quartz]

and as a result not very interesting

[native furnace]

imo*

late game people will of course prioritize heavys

[prime quartz]

If your team is at all competent you have infinite heavy tanks

[native furnace]

but I still see plenty of mediums and recons

[prime quartz]

nodes in base - TL spawns heavies/gets free resources -- heavy spam

[native furnace]

and, if this meta is indeed true - it should be being reworked soon enough with another tank overhaul

[prime quartz]

as a result bringing out mediums is like asking to die

becasue the interaction between tanks isn't intersting

[prime quartz]

this is optimistic

[native furnace]

I didnt say the overhaul will be good 😁

[prime quartz]

light and recon have a place because you have speed/are tiny

mediums are in a weird/bad place

[signal harness]

Recon/light rush can be decent, but only if you can get behind the enemy tanks. Once the game get rolling there is no reason not to use heavies

[delicate juniper]

To me that would feel like fixing a symptom but not the cause of the problem.

[opaque rose]

finally got my first positive KD

[granite vector]

https://tenor.com/view/larry-david-curb-your-enthusiasm-curb-celebration-celebrate-gif-18549917

[west python]

5 kills 30 deaths just medic things

[hardy cedar]

gunplay is actually the best

[carmine pollen]

Gun play being like that is what makes the game fun

[hardy cedar]

the audio cues when hs and bodyshot throws the milsim argument out of the window tho

[native furnace]

sure, but I think people use the term loosely because it does take on a slightly arcadey approach so as not to sacrifice... yknow, actually enjoying the fuckin game

if you want to make the argument that it takes on Milsim elements, then thats perfectly fine - or vice versa. But like

[hardy cedar]

so DCS is not entertaining?

[native furnace]

well he didnt fuckin say that so why bring that up

[carmine pollen]

He never said that

[west python]

if they want that much realism might as well add food and water too. i think some thing are just too anyoing in the game, i shouldnt have to wait an extra 40 secs just because we lost spawn

[native furnace]

the steam store page literally describes it as an 'rts inspired meta-game', if they wanted to call it a milsim, or realistic one at that they would have damn well made sure to mention it in the description

[gusty condor]

Why not

That rewards tactical spawn placement

[hardy cedar]

or rewards actually NOT dying

[gusty condor]

^

[west python]

i bought the game to play not spend time waiting to play

[hardy cedar]

as long as there is only 10 second punishment for redeploying, this is HC BFV

[carmine pollen]

Then don’t die

[gusty condor]

Then live

Play the game not like its some run in shoot one person and die simulator

[native furnace]

you probably bought the game with a different ideal of what it would actually be like in mind

[west python]

was hgoping a more realistic bf 1942 stlye game

[gusty condor]

The game is all about taking points, which benefits from slow consistent pushes and flanking.

[west python]

i even dont mind the reload bug i just pretend gun jammed but spawn time is ridiculous

[hardy cedar]

20s for respawn plus 1-20s for OP that is just around the corner. If a tank comes and i dont redeploy as AT im dead, but if i make it in those 21-40 seconds, the tank might be dead, if we lose the OP, doesnt matter, we are dead anyway

[native furnace]

oh redeploy, my bad I misread the 10 sec punnishment

[next oasis]

slow consistent pushes
lmao
no.

[hardy cedar]

if I die while dealing with the tank, no problem, i will be there in those odd 30 seconds with fresh ammo

[west python]

we need more jeeps too

[hardy cedar]

out of thin air

[native furnace]

any*

which there is going to be added supposedly so dont worry about that yet

[slim fractal]

Units in this game actually simulates a platoon. Not a squad. That's why units are lead by officers and not NCOs 🤓

[carmine pollen]

I got a game today that was just that, it felt like a real siege with frontlines, we pushed up got pushed back, held back. That’s what i play this game for

Um

Yes

[native furnace]

play warfare mode then

[carmine pollen]

No shit

[hardy cedar]

there is no slow consistent pushing, at least in competitive matches i play - just try to kill as many from as many possible angles and take the point, with a squad or so already prepared to take the next point

[native furnace]

then no problem??

[carmine pollen]

I wasn’t complaining

[next oasis]

@carmine pollen your experience isn't indicative of what little a team actually needs to do in order to win a game.
The game is marginalized to teleporting and spawn bombing

[hardy cedar]

ddying is a non-issue

[west python]

aatleast i can watch a whole episdoe of squid game by the time i spawn, run to the objective

:p

[native furnace]

oh fuck me I misread another message, my bad man

[carmine pollen]

It’s all good

[hardy cedar]

oh and also teleporting via redeploy to airhead yes, simulation

maybe im just fucked in the head and dont percieve reality as others 😄

[native furnace]

well, nah I mean the sentiment is right

but you gotta realize that there has to be a line drawn at some point

otherwise you begin to infringe on actual enjoyment for the sake of 'realism'

[carmine pollen]

Paratroopers i think, they don’t let your shoot them down because war crimes

[native furnace]

and a truly realistic milsim experience is impossible because its just a game

[gusty condor]

The spawning mechanics definitely do need work

[hardy cedar]

yet it is

[slim fractal]

Try PS and drink water

[hardy cedar]

iRacing, the leading racing simulation, and many other racing simulations are just that, hard work, no bullshit

[native furnace]

yeah nah I mean of course theres good options, what I meant was you cant have a 'true to life' game

[hardy cedar]

not asking for true to life

[native furnace]

and as I asked, where do you draw the line then?

or more accurately, what do u think is a good balance?

[carmine pollen]

Join a regiment if you want a milsim experience cause they follow real life rules no bullshit. DM me if you want the invite 14+

[hardy cedar]

it has to be hard, fun and immersive

[native furnace]

thats pretty broad? In my eyes Hell Let Loose fits all of those terms easily enough

[hardy cedar]

true, then to be specific - each squadmember has to have some value to his life

otherwise it is not immersive

[native furnace]

You mean like putting value on a specific life, instead of 'oh shit I died lemme respawn'?

[hardy cedar]

yes

[native furnace]

ah yeah, fair enough

[hardy cedar]

thats how you 1. get people to preserve their lives and make it much more engaging and 2. punish them for not preserving their lives

[carmine pollen]

You my friend are describing a regiment lol

[hardy cedar]

lets say that you cannot respawn with something else than a rifleman for 10 minutes as spawning with something

also, airhead BS is also not really fun - why not take a squad or two and actually move them behind the lines and attack from there

more of a risk-reward thingy

opposed to the cycle of attack isnt working - try airspawn to backr4pe them - airhead didnt work - oh well, continue normal frontal attacks

or in the case of the airhead working, the victory is really shallow

uuuuhh oooohh we materialised from thin air behind their back, such strategy, such tactics, pro skills there

with full ammo, no less, while they slave away in the defense with decreasing ammo

also also, the capture points are too powerful and small, so you want to get as many bodies there asap, while its easy for the arty to rack up kills, plus you know exactly where the enemies are so the rest of the sectors is not really fought over and thats a pity as it would be much more interesting if you had to patrol around a bit and figure out where the enemies are

[carmine pollen]

Arnoldio check your DMs

[prime quartz]

is this a joke?

[warm knot]

unfortunately not

[woven wing]

Shalom

Are soviets coming to console?

[warm knot]

yes

[prime quartz]

WW2. "Gunplay sucks" because it is meant to mimic those guns.

So you've clearly never actually used any of these guns. Thanks, don't make things up.

Sim: the imitative representation of the functioning of one system or process by means of the functioning of another.

lol, whut?

Squad breakdown is a simulation, as squads had actually 1 of everything with multiple riflemen.

Ah yes, the magic "supply soldier" in each U.S. riflesquad. I also recall each rifle squad having an M1919. Oh wait they didn't.

You are only given a small handful of rounds. 4x 8-round bloc clips for M1 Garand, 32 rounds. Example.

You have literally 4x that ammunition per life

This imitates the Tank play. Including the reticle -

No

[next oasis]

"Gunplay sucks" because it is meant to mimic those guns.
oh my

like, what

[warm knot]

"the game is bad because life sucks"

"the game imitates life"

[next oasis]

"it's supposed to suck"

😬

[warm knot]

😬

[dark topaz]

Is there a guide to the XP gains?

[slim fractal]

Ah this sums it then 👌

[tame sphinx]

How much downtime is in Hell Let Loose? How long do I have to wait and walk back to my post after dying?

[prime quartz]

depends

can be a lot can be a little

[tame sphinx]

How much is a lot how much is a little

[native furnace]

that depends entirely on how close your OP or Garry is to your destination, and the deploy timer

[normal pike]

Yeah, and how good your team is. Good team, lots of spawn points, usually pretty quick.

Bad team, no spawn points.... lots of running simulator.

[honest isle]

I like the "downtime" in these types of games. Moments when you can catch your breath in between firefights. Also the fact that you have to travel long distances to reach your objective makes dying more impactful

[tame sphinx]

That is true

On average how long do you have to walk from spawn to the objective

[thin linden]

Around 5 mins

[native furnace]

impactful Fucking fraustrating lmao

[hardy cedar]

1, maybe 2

[thin linden]

Depends if you got a good team or not

Unfortunately I don’t get very good teams

[hardy cedar]

5 minutes gets you halfway across the map

[torn prairie]

Omg is that my favourite Arnoldio o.o ❤️

[latent badge]

So anyone wants to let a pleb join?

[torn prairie]

A clan or a squad?

If youre looking for a clan/community check out #pc-divisions-recruitment! 😉

#console-looking-for-unit and #pc-looking-for-unit for squadding up!

[latent badge]

A clan longterm I guess, but not hardcore. Should be EU. I'll check out the channels, thanks mate 🙂

[torn prairie]

No worries my dude! Plenty of great EU clans there! 🙂

[frigid swallow]

I’m a new pc gamer coming form Xbox and looking to get into HLL where do I start? 🙈

[tall orchid]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/686810/Hell_Let_Loose/

[frigid swallow]

😂 it’s currently downloading

[tall orchid]

🙂

[wheat grotto]

Considering this or PS

What does this have that PS doesn't

[gloomy grove]

Players

[tall orchid]

rofl

[wheat grotto]

Oh damn good point. Thousands on this and hundreds on PS

probably end up getting this then

[warm knot]

I never have trouble finding a game on PS except on off hours

[atomic dawn]

You won’t be disappointed if you purchase HLL. There is at least 3-4 more years of content planned for HLL, the game has really kicked off on console too which means additional funding for future content. There are always full servers to join for multiple continents. The dev team is transparent and they have a very clear roadmap. The game is currently in a great state, and the game will only get better over time. Its the best ww2 experience out there. This game isn’t dying anytime soon. I really look forward to the future of HLL

[wide valley]

PS is ass and is dying HLL is a WAY better game and has years of new life left in it

[modern rampart]

a playerbase, better graphics, more active devteam, also way better maps.

[atomic dawn]

really depends on the teams spawn points. There are squad based spawn points “outposts”, and there are team spawn points “garrisons”. If these are setup well, you can even spawn inside the objective.

[sleek flower]

I tried PS and I think it has some good game mechanics. However I find the look and feel to be lacking. There is no visceral feeling hunkered in a trench as a bombing run is moving towards you like HLL

[warm knot]

guess you've never been hit by artillery in PS

[atomic dawn]

also i believe ps has a lower player count? isnt it 40vs40 for a total of 80 players? HLL offers 100 player battles at 50v50

[modern rampart]

correct

[atomic dawn]

It really depends on your objective. When defending for example, you usually have a much shorter distance back to the “action”. It entirely depends on your garrisons (team spawns) and outpost (squad spawn). Usually the distance when attacking is longer, since it can be quite difficult to setup a spawn close to the enemy objective. The “downtime” however is quite minimal once the game has actually started. Depending on your role and loadout, there is almost always something you can be doing. You should check out some youtube videos about the basic game mechanics, and some gameplay. Its extremely addictive once you start.

[wheat grotto]

HLL comes off as a ww2 battlefield

Thanks for the feedback guys. Definitely getting it

Ik I saw they were adding eastern front, that's available now right?

[modern rampart]

If you are playing on PC, yes. If you are playing on consoles not yet.

[wheat grotto]

Yeah PC

[modern rampart]

then the Eastern Front is available. Right now featuring Stalingrad and Kursk but more maps are coming in future updates, including different sections of Stalingrad and Kharkov

[wheat grotto]

This game doesn't have custom classes? Is there any sort of progression?

[modern rampart]

Custom classes, no. Progression is part of the game as you can unlock different loadouts (which are often better than the standard loadouts) and new customisation options like uniforms and helmets.

[wheat grotto]

Oh I see you get a choice between a couple of guns

[modern rampart]

also leveling is featured, as you can rank up both individual classes (max rank 10) and an overall career rank (max level 500)

[wheat grotto]

And customize appearance

[modern rampart]

pretty much, yeah.

[wheat grotto]

Ok cool

[atomic dawn]

Guns and equipment. For example the Anti tank class 1st loadout had a bazooka, while the 2nd class has a satchel charge, and the 3rd class has the ability to create an Anti Tank cannon. (i think he has mines too? i dont actually remember which loadout has the mines now). The USSR faction has an AT rifle, so there is also a level of aysmmetric warefare.

[atomic dawn]

And its different to battlefield, in quite a few ways. The focus is definitely on Squad and teamplay (at least in theory). There isn’t really the “one-man-army” mentality that Bf has. Each class supports the other classes, and they are more effective when the squad sticks together.

[uncut jasper]

Lone wolfing in HLL is so ridiculously strong as a strat unless you care about suppression

[atomic dawn]

Sure you can get kills, but kills aren’t important in HLL. There is no ticket system.. If you spend 3 minutes flanking the enemy, and then die, the enemy will just spawn back on the objective, while you then spend time flanking again..

pushing as a team, or small squad, will allow you to flank with more success. Especially with a medic

[warm knot]

lone wolfing to destroy spawns is still very powerful

[uncut jasper]

Getting multiple squads to stop paying attention and making them look for you while the rest of your team swarms them is unbelievably OP, especially if you’re just picking them off over and over

[hollow hollow]

Why does the US morphine whistles when reviving?

[uncut jasper]

What are they going to do, leave you alone and let you keep killing them?

[hollow hollow]

Like a fucking bird

[atomic dawn]

If you can destroy spawns, then yes its a good strat, thats usually the job of the recon team, and they have the “lone wolf” role

[uncut jasper]

Recon just does the same thing from a distance

[atomic dawn]

On a map like foy, you wont get far lone wolfing an objective like dugout barn or west bend.. Its a very long flank. and its very difficult to setup an outpost behind the enemy

recon obviously can setup the outpost anywhere, which makes the strat much more powerful

[uncut jasper]

Well yeah, because Foy is a snoozefest

Ooh, white fields that everyone sticks out in unless you’re in the town

Literally impossible to do anything to begin with

[atomic dawn]

yeah some maps encourage teamplay more than others

[modern rampart]

I don't get the hate for Foy

literally one of my favorite maps

both Warfare and Offensive

you need quite a good team to pull of Foy offensive

on the German side

which makes it more exciting

[atomic dawn]

i think teamplay is overall more evident on offensive mode. You honestly get the best most intense games. Almost every map plays amazing on offensive too

[signal harness]

Foy, PHL, and Kursk all require coordination between armor and infantry

a lot of public matches lack that

[modern rampart]

true. Also really like Kursk

but it seems that hatred for the current eastern front maps is common

[atomic dawn]

Forcing players to either defend or attack is great.. it becomes a really intense 50v50 right up until the last minute

[modern rampart]

I actually like both of them

[uncut jasper]

Kursk caca, Stalingrad fun

[signal harness]

Kursk is sort of broken atm with the windmills looking into the Soviet spawn

[modern rampart]

because the maps themselves feel different to the Western Front maps, imo

[signal harness]

otherwise its a good map

[modern rampart]

true yeah

I generally like Stalingrad better than Kursk, too

[uncut jasper]

Windmills are ridiculously OP with the peepholes

[spiral compass]

Sort of ? understatement of the year 😄

[signal harness]

I like the eastern half of Stalingrad past the train station

fair

[uncut jasper]

Whoever gets windmills first ez game gg ez pp squeezy

[signal harness]

So get there first

[atomic dawn]

kursk is better on offensive, since the windmills arent avaliable for the germans at the start

[signal harness]

again, it requires infantry and armor to coordinate to take the windmills and if you team lacks that you going to have a bad time

[uncut jasper]

Then I sit there for 30-45 minutes shooting guys in the grass, I’m like 😴😴😴

Or getting blown up in spawn