#new-recruit-barracks
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You can immediately tell the competence of any SL from how they utilize OPs
NPA, Glow's, some of the "military" servers
20 pzg, 2fjg, 82ad
NPA will always be Dixx in my heart
But if you have an SL who has greater than 50% up time you are lucky
most don't even manage that
the other key thing to remember here, which you seem to be forgetting, is that SL's are infinite
more SLs = more Ops = more spawns
even disregarding the whole uptime thing, telling people that placing OPs as SL is all you need and not bothering with garrisons is fine, is just completely wrong
I never said don't bother. I said the one thing you need to do
and again you can have infinite number of SLs
if someone wants to be a try hard and place garrisons they have that capability
but if you just want to get your feet wet with SL load up and place an OP
wow you've done it
Dude. Placing garrisons as Squad Leader isn't "being a tryhard". It's not hard at all. It takes literally seconds to do so, and every SL should engage with it.
it is
i mean assuming you are actually placing garrisons
since you need to be watching garrisons
defending them from recon
replacing them
etc..
well, ok, I guess we'll just disagree. I honestly think that line of thought is harmful to everyone's enjoyment of the game
if you randomly place 1 garrison per game
sure you can do that
its fine
but you aren't really playing the garrison meta game
garrison meta game requires a ton of legwork
I mean again you seem to think that SL is a limited resource
which is very much isn't
from what ive played without garrisons your f ked
Well, it does when only one SL places garrisons because the other ones are fine just placing their OPs
you are
i've literally never been in a match where it didn't require a ton of legwork
very few players are going to upkeep garrisons which is a key part of the garrison gameplay
An SL that has an understanding of garrisons and OPs are absolutely a limited resource
probably the most important part
Right and I am expanding that by telling people to play SL and place OPs
tl;dr OP uptime is more important than every SL worrying about putting up garrisons
not telling people that "SL is hard and don;'t do it"
just load up the game and place OPs
OH man this is actual thought poison
I literally made a video called "Hey newbie, play SL"
I can't even continue this discussion, sorry. Squad Leaders need to use OPs as a tool to gain ground to build garrisons in. That's most of the gameplay loop they should be engaging with.
Squad Leaders that don't help build garrisons are actively detrimental to the team and shouldn't get the feeling that "they're doing ok" because they keep their OPs up.
no
This. Especially in the #new-recruit-barracks don't over complicate the game for them at this point.
they 100% should
you really aren't getting what we're saying
They need to learn to walk before they run
if someone loads up the game jumps into SL and keep an OP up time greater than 50%
they are doing better than the average
they are in fact above average
god among men
They need to learn the importance of garrisons and how easy it is to place them
its not easy to place them
your youtube viideo is "go do boring shit" which just isn;t going to fly in HLL
it's very easy to place a garrison, it's hard to place a garrison in a smart location
but well, you seem to know better, or at least have a completely different view of the game than I do
Well the real difficulty in the garrison game is upkeep
you need SLs willing to do the boring administrative work
which is a thing
I don't disagree. Scroll up and you will see my discussion earlier with new players.
^^
and let the try hard players do the garrison upkeep shit
training wheels first
they may eventually bcome a try hard
you literally make my point right here: https://youtu.be/0yu2FgCFo-Y?t=341
"A lot of them just create a squad to spawn"
how do i switch to offensive game mode?
console?
oh, not live yet?
kk
random chance
I don't think you can sorry.
no server browser so you can';t pick what you play
^^
Do you realize the game just launched on console? THERE ARE NO TRYHARD PLAYERS on console because 99% of the SLs don't know what the hell is going on.
If you tell new SLs not to build garrisons, then nobody is gonna build them in servers where every SL is new!
apparently the map rotation for the console servers is dogshit lmao
And that's why all the complains are "I run too much"
try hard is a state of mind not a state of skill
i dunno
and you're telling the ones that do have the "tryhard mind", not to bother with garrisons.
ytou have an 11 minute video cover a ton of shit when it really comes down to "Place OPs"
the absolute state of HLL on consoles
after you';ve mastered placing OPs you can place Garrisons
does the manual even work on consoles?
is schadenfreude the word? i think it is
Yes there are try hards, for some reason, a small amount of pc players are on the console version.
New players on console NEED to engage with the garrison building mechanics ASAP. Don't tell them not to.
OP placement is also failure prof
proof
whereas garrison placement can fuck your team
Even during the beta.
dunno man
You want SL's to jump fully formed out of Zeus' head
ready to do it all
I just want them to place an OP
dude, go play the console version. A bad garrison is better than no garrison at all
Then you should tell them to place an OP and a garrison
until someone smart comes along and can't put a good garrison down
I would not call people that are using the core mechanic of the game and trying to maintain it "tryhard"
I already tell them that. That's what you should be telling them as well. That's entirely the reason why I'm arguing this with you.
I’m thankfully I spent the week before release to watch a bunch of tutorials/videos on how the game works.
I would
Thankful*
Garrison upkeep is a lot of work
and mostly not fun
its a lot of walking, a lot of map watching, a lot of hunting down random recon fucks
and then replacing garrisons they knocked over
Garrison upkeep is barely a problem if you have a competent commander and SLs that build garrisons.
It's a huge problem when SLs don't build garrisons because people tell them using only their OP is just fine.
HLL's reliance on veteran players being living tutorials has resulted in no OPs/garrisons, which is a sign of HLL's failure to teach its mechanics to new players
no its not
But one problem with some players on the console version is that there are a lot of team killers especially during the match warmup
garrison upkeep is a huge part of the game
anyone else watching #console-general-chat and just laughing
me
it's glorious
I disagree 100%
but I know it's useless to keep talking
thats the case most of the time
Not exactly sure why people disagree with you here. If there is an incentive of teaching new players how to place garrisons, it's always going to have a positive outcome. Funnily enough there seems to be some pretty obvious contradictions too, how are you going to justify saying "New players don't know how to play/place OPs/place garrisons" and then tell them "garrisons aren't important, focus on OPs"
OPs are generally more useful and flexible than garrisons but that doesn't mean that nobody should bother with building garrisons, especially considering how easy it is to build a decent one.
nobody is saying "don't build a garrison ever"
The entire team being able to spawn is more important than a single squad being able to do so. If 2 OPs get wiped, then 20% of your team can't spawn there to help the team.
Garrisons are more important than OPs in every single way. You guys are making sure new players get into the game with an absolute backwards mentality
i mean, they're voluntarily playing a low TTK FPS on console, they're already backwards as fuck
honestly pushing the game right onto PS plus might have been a blunder
there are basically no veteran players to teach others on PS5 right now
The problem is the lack of tutorial, 100%
Should’ve waited till December/January
black matter be like: "veteran players are the tutorial" 
a single still image explaining what OPs and garrisons are, and why they are absolutely crucial to enjoying the game in any capacity would have done wonders. Just have it stay for 20s without being able to skip it
There are pc veteran playing on console, but the problem is that they all play in the same squad, not that I blame them for it.
Well, they've been using my tutorials as a substitute tbh. However without the game linking to them directly, they will only reach 1% of the players that actually need them
Protip #61: git gud
took me almost 8 months before i realized the loader spot on arty could move the gun beyond the +/-15 degree transversal
same is true for AT guns btw
Protip #32: learn to read the map to guess where the enemy is
protip 1: Build garrisons
protip 2: build more garrisons
pro tip 3: don't forget your OP while you're building garrisons
My point here is that a lot of times people will recommend that someone not touch Squad Leader becuase "its complicated". And as helpful as a video about SL is its still an 11 minute video with a lot of content in it covering items that don't actually need to be covered for basic play.
Rather than scare someone off get them into the game and get them placing an OP. If they are doing that base level of competency they are better than proably half the SLs in the game. If they are actively placing OPs they will, ideally learn in-game how to place a garrison.
But the OP is that bare minimum and I would far prefer people playing SL do that over not play SL
#hll-content message
the fan whirring in the background really sells the whole thing
This is a complicated game. If you don't want to teach an SL how to SL because it's complicated, then might as well not teach them anything at all.
jet engine
Well, that's what you're doing only telling them about OPs because garrisons are complicated.
They are complicated. That's WHY you should tell them about it.
imagine someone getting a seizure from that menu
lawsuit out the wazoo
OP:
- press a button
- press another button
Garrison:
- identify icon on map or on screen
- if no icon identify player who can place icon
- get player who can place icon to place icon
- press button
- press button again
- oh wait be sure to check placement distance
- red zone differences
- max on map
probably some other items I am forgetting
like an SL's first expertience with a garrison might be him yelling at some mute to place supplies
which isn't rewarding
whereas placing an Op and seeing your guys spawn is
Yeah it should be stressed that its part of the sigma male grindset to be squad leader
🤼♀️
Garrisons are complicated? 0_0 I found them easy enough, supply truck or supply soldier, have enough materials, find good spot and place.
they are if players aren;t familiar with the concepts of player placed spawns
Squad Leaders, who build both OPs and garrisons vs. Squad Leaders, who build neither:
on PC there is more institutional knowledge
but its still a rarity
Team as they begin losing thanks to no spawns
This is true, once I got out there and tried it I picked up on it pretty quick. Granted that’s bout all I’m good for as officer, swing behind enemies point and set up garrison for me troops. I’m better at sniping or as an mg
Garrison: hey support, drop supplies. Done.
That's how garrisons work when there's no garrisons anywhere on the map
That’s where I fail, I’m not much of a leader, so when my allies need a garrison and no one else is getting it done I just do it.
Much of SL is just giving your squad a purpose. "Hey we need to get to move mark to get a Garrison that we can use to attack". "Let's move to x position and try and flank from there"
that is literally most of what an SL has to do
Many players are absolutely clueless/aimless. If an SL just talks and provides them with an artificial objective to accomplish, that's a huge benefit for them
all that "Talking to people" stuff is overrated
verse just having a spawn point up
most of the game is having spawns
if liteerally all you do is place spawns you are better than most players
this requires
- that you understand supply system
- that you have a support guy who will listen
- that you understand how to place Garrisons
Or just pay attention to when there is a supply truck like I do
yea, but it still requires more knowledge of the game
Biased cause pelicans cant talk
y'all wanna see something funny
i tossed foy offensive into the rotation to see what would happen
15m after noville is capped, half the attacking team is still there, defending it
and there's no garrisons
I can make loud noises though
And that's why we need to teach new players about t instead of telling them "hey, don't bother, as long as you're using your OP, you're doing great!"
Like, that's the entire argument I've been having with you dude
why does my name end in "_1"
someone with the same name on the server
Im on your side mate
its not
You want players to know all of this stuff gong into the role
I want people to get their feet wet immediately
I want SLs to know about garrisons as their first thing, yes.
you want them to read a PDF and watch a 10 miinute video full of information that isn't really critical
whereas I want them to learn on the job
Bewd ouppos
BEWD GABBISON! 🦍
this whole thing came up because someone said "don't play SL"
which is entirely the wrong strating place
Play SL
place OPs
Actually, my beginners guide is 20min long and full of useful info
I cant be arsed with videos either tbh
Loading screen tips i read doe
Stuff like that
And if it repeats all the time
Might learn something
Watching a 20min video will have you learn more about the game than playing 5 hours of it and allow you to jump in and enjoy the game way more
BEWD 🔨 GABBISON 🏠 WID BOX 🗃️ FROM BOXMAN 👨
This is a sad state of gaming. COD has babied and nurtured players into neanderthals. Tiktok brain syndrome
If its any consolation, i watched your entire series in prep
CoD has been around far longer than Tiktok
Maybe, i just tell you what my tendency is without thinking about it
No shit
I am one of those sigma males that just went squad lead from the start and learned the game cause i felt i had to fix the matches that were going wrong for obvious reasons
Interesting debate, as has been said, not many people are going to take the initiative to watch youtube videos on how to play, so a few basic intro screens in the game about ops, garrisons, capping etc wouldn't hurt (and this is coming from someone who did watch those intro videos from monoespacial before playing).
That's cool. But I guarantee you will learn faster/more by watching vids than by playing the game.
Nobody is arguing against that
Players just aren't going to watch 20 min videos
Most aren't, I agree, which is why a tutorial is needed.
Just that small bits of repeated information might go very far as well
Should be displayed in main menu even maybe
While you stare at the dumb animations
And your new pants
Together with an unskippable 20s screen explaining spawn mechanics with as few images and text as possible
did someone tell them?
frankly on offensive the old cap should be removed from the map
idk man
also, re that convo in supporters
welcome to cobru factory, i can cap the point from here
I’m having trouble finding an open server
console?
Pc
sort by player
Please fix your damn T17 services. Keep loosing connection to them on xbox. Stop being cheap and cut corners on bandwidtj and servers.
I keep losing connection on PS5 too. Annoying because Im losing that XP
New player here. Question about driving tanks. Is the game just clunky or what? When I am driving a tank, and finally get some speed and gearing up from 1 to 4, all of a sudden I just lose all power and the tank comes to a stop and I have to down gear and start all over from 1. Does anyone know why this happens? Bug or am I doing something wrong?
possibly doing something wrong, when switching gears you need to have a certain RPM (>25? iirc). But there are sometimes when you go down a hill in a weird way and the game just drops all your speed for no reason and you have to downshift and then shift back up
It happends because they are saving mpney... being cheap.
Ok thanks. I was just reading a guide that they tweeted out and it does say you need to be past 25 RPM before you switch gears which I am, but once I get to 4th gear, and even driving on flat terrain it will just die and come to a stop? I dont know if it is because I am opening my map to take a look at where I need to go, or if its just a bug or maybe Im hitting a button wrong, I wasn't sure so I thought Id ask
make sure you keep holding W when you open your map
there are some weird places in the terrain that destroy your speed for some reason, but it shouldn't be happening too much
for first gear, don't shift to second until you see the tachometer 'pop'
wouldn't recommend trying to turn before you see that pop either
otherwise you'll bog down
hi guys. I am new here! How do i access the PlayStation group? looking for a squad to roll with
you should see #console-general-chat
wait no
🧃
2nd one
@errant swallow hey man just watched your commander vid pretty amazing I feel much more comfortable doing the role now thanks man
Just wanted to say that on PS5 if you are holding R2 for gas, then open your map, you will continue to drive until you close your map, then you lose power. I just tried it out in another vehicle. That was my problem with the tank too. So its fine if you dont open your map while driving
hey while you're around, have you ever considered updating your armour guides? Your 3 part guide was amazing and had everything I needed to know before getting my hands on a tank. I been wondering if you would ever do an updated or expanded guide?
Say for example on map positioning, how to execute tricky maneouvers etc.
I'm waiting for the 2nd part of the armor update for that
A collaborative effort with someone like Karmakut may also be beneficial for you both.
Oh yeah thats fair reason, makes sense to wait - as I think they are going to rework the damage/pen system with regards to angling
Can light tanks like the puma and panzer not damage Shermans?
The game is completely messed up on xbox. Server lag, voice issues, settings resetting, gear not savong. It is just unplayable today!!
Hey guys is this game good ?
The game is great if it worked
It’s a fantastic game that can be very rewarding at times, however it has a steep learning curve. I’d recommend watching some guides from monoespacial, KarmaKut, or TacticalBrit before jumping in.
There’s currently some teething issues too due to the sudden influx of new players.
is this a PC question or a console question
As a new player, I hated this game. But after watching vids and reading and playing it for a few hours, I am addicted and its so much fun. Def my fav WW2 game so far
Hhmm is there an issue on Xbox were mics aren't being picked up?
Like the broadcast symbol isn't even appearing and there's no input shown on the main menu
How do supplies work? If I drop 50 supplies and another box scones available, does the original get replaced? Or am I adding another 50 to that sector
@frail aspen cant speak for Xbox but on PS5 you have to press L1 to activate/deactivate voice chat
Yeah, I'm doing the equivalent and it was working yesterday but now I'm having no luck
Yeah Xbox LB is the ps L1 equivalent
idk
I believe there is a couple, I'm UK but I definitely saw at least one full
Light German tank - the Luchs I believe its called, I think it can damage shermans ONLY from the rear plate. The German recon has a stronger gun in that regard actually, although I know for a fact you can take out heavy shermans from the rear plate
I dont use light German tank due to its gun so I cant confirm my first statement though
have a look at the tank bible for 100% accuurate stats
Sherman's are not going to be easy for panzer 2 or puma but its possible
It's over 4 full mags direct back to kill a jumbo with the Luchs though
So it's almost not worth it for anything other than infantry or light vehicle support
The puma can viable but it's definitely a glass cannon
Pumas can kill jumbos 2 to 3 shots directly to the back of the tank but its incapable of penetrating at ranges above 10 meters consistently on anything above a medium
I don't think pz2 can kill heavies at all, it only has HE shells
glow's battlegrounds
I THINK I’ve seen the Pz2 track a heavy, but yeah, no, it’s not gonna kill them
yeah since U10 HE shells will take out tracks
tracking in this game is kinda useless tbh tho
they're just stuck on first gear, their tracks work fine but their transmission gets shot somehow lol
if only the tanks movement was actually based on tracks so if you took out one of the tracks it'd spin in circles when it tried to move
does the Panzeshreck frontal shield (german rocket launcher) actually protect you or is it there for the looks
it's just looks
aw
Pz2 can kill heavies
But it's almost near impossible to do in a normal game
We "almost" killed an is1 with it but the is1 also ran over an AT mine
We knocked its engine but were unable to kill it
it shouldn't be able to, that's weird
Also HE shells still have ap value, the panzer 2, stuart and recon vehicles die quite easily to higher caliber HE
yeah those are light vehicles though
I've one shot a greyhound with the Panthers 75mm he
those are known to be damaged by HE
And I've also killed a luchs with the 76he
according to the tank bible and my own testing, HE shells shouldn't hurt a heavy tank at all
Your bible is wrong then
do you have a vid of you taking out the engine of an IS1?
No sadly
Like I said it was definitely not a standard situation but we were definitely penetrating from behind
It has also ran over an at mine so it had very little engine health left
I mean
Most people dont just record everything
shadowplay (and whatever the AMD equiv) are easy to setup
This game is a mess on xbox after release. WHY are companies so cheap we have to endure this fucking BS with games we pay actual money for
anything weird happens I always clip it, usually it's just me misunderstanding what happened. But I've found some bugs this way
It wasnt really weird
I've always known the panzer 2 can kill mediums or heavies
Its just almost impossible
If you start at the back of a jumbo with full ammo you wont have enough to kill it though
I'll go test it again later. Technically I never tested pz2, just other HE shells, but it should be the same
Well it makes the exact sound and effect of normal penetration
And we killed the is1s engine, cause we heard it shut off after one of the rounds penning
I mean he could have just coincidentally shut his engine off for a random reason while being attacked in the open
But I'm pretty sure we got it
It took 3 mags if I remember correctly but that's after it hit a tellermine
It also murdered us after we did it because it was able to turn its turret 180 degrees before we could do a killing blow
But we got the engine
That's all I know
If there are any console players in here who need a console role, please DM @lean orchid and specify which console you are using to play Hell Let Loose.
Hey so is the Xbox ten hour trial still available, my buddy wants to try out the game but obviously doesn’t want to pay the 40 dollars for something he might not be interested in
It was early this morning not sure, your friend will havta check
Alright, thanks
15 kill streak where I lterally didn't move from my spawn
Wassip everybody 😎
So are there any big differences between the short mosin and the long mosin?
hiii
Looking for a squad or team
#pc-looking-for-unit if you're on PC. #pc-divisions-recruitment, otherwise
No problem
is the eastern front out yet?
for months now, there's a stalingrad and a kursk map
Is it on consoles?
I assume, but I don't know for sure
Or is there just no Soviet customization
Apparently it'll come to console after launch
Idk where a post launch roadmap is located tho
They really need to find time to make some basic tutorials
what do ya think the trench gun will be like as a weapon?
Likely utterly useless at anything except close range
Even though shotguns have longer range than they do in video games.
But.. Y'know, if they weren't....
hmm
I figured if they were trying to adopt a degree of realism it would be still quite powerful at range
Maybe they'll do enough damage to give you a scare at range, make you need to hide and bandage.
Yeah, but games do tend to have a need to temper realism for fun. HLL definitely does that.
What channel do I go to to find people to play with. I just see the pc looking for group
HLL is like the casual end of milsim. It's practically battlefield/cod for people who are fucking sick of those games, or a bit too old to be able to keep up with the zoomer's reflexes haha. But it's still pretty pick up and play, right?
So I don't think it'll be balanced to one shot you at range
yeah thats fair enough
But yeah, a 2 shot at range seems fair to me too.
Karmakut's discord is really good for finding people to play tactical games with
HLL, squad, arma, zero hour.. lots of players for all of those there
Can you dm me the link / invitation
Please
Karmakut is one hell of a tank commander
hey, i'm trying to find a match with people communicating, which turns out prettyhard.tips?
plus I like his zero hour vids
eh, either join a community run server not 'HLL OFFICIAL' name, or just keep trying your luck
oh,I'm on ps5
I fucking knew that would be the case on PS5
hmm, oh well then im afraid I couldnt offer much advice
yeah the game really goes to shit without people on mics. I'm not sure what to advise either, I also have a PS5 but I play on PC
is it matchmaking on ps5?
No option for private games either? Fucks sake
I think your best bet is to use LFG sites like I used to for Destiny 2 raids and post asking for people who'll play with mics.
also there's console channels here, I'm guessing people will be trying to squad up just like yourself
I've had luck and ggot a commander the last round, which really helped. now cant find a agme with squad leaders miced
HLL should come with a big splash screen before menu that says "IF YOURE NOT GONNA USE A MIC FUCK OFF"
and then it fades to black and says "NO, SERIOUSLY. USE A MIC. DICKHEAD."
can do private lobby. but have no friends on ps5
and then you finally get the menu
yeah i think just try and make some friends on the console channels on here or use LFG sites mate, no idea what to suggest otherwise
Sorry to hear that people arent bothering
such a shame
it'll take. a while. for the people just checking it out to fuck off
im sure its. gonna work soon
Even in stuff like siege it's still such a hit or miss thing whether people use mics
Packaging a decent mic with every console would go a long way with this. Back when Xbox Live first kicked off on the og xbox, you got a mic with your xbox live package as standard.
you can lead a horse to water but you cant make em drink
But everyone used it because of that. Now people that do mic tend to be in party chat with their mates. HLL should definitely be played with the in game chat and not discord or party chat.
even if this were the case, people might still not want to use a mic for wahtever reason
You say that kong, but i think MS did make the horse drink on the og xbox
if so, theres hope then
Yeah, people still dont always mic on PC. Sometimes you have a run of like 3 matches where no-one's using them or trying to co-ordinate and it's always hell
Yeah, literally everyone used their mics when they packaged them with your XBL kit
Id say give it a month, let console players get a proper feel for the game, if theyre not completely braindead theyll realize its a far better experience with mics and comms
What’s up with not being allowed to select commander on console
Rainbow Six 3 and CS and Pandora Tomorrow MP, everyone using mic. Everyone.
RIP the days
in CS, far majority uses mics but ull still get cases where people just dont in solo q
eh...it really is hit or miss honestly, I try not to solo q because its honestly dogshit and up in the air whether you'll get a functional team
but with 4 friends its pretty fun
Lol, hear that.
new operation dropped if you keep up with that, new content, new QQL changes and more skins of course
Condition Zero and Source were my fucking jam. GO just seemed kinda... Messy.
Yeah, I think it was the skins lmao
The skins killed it for me.
oh yeah theyre still going strong!
Theres a sizable community server support going on
Fuck, that might get me to install.
I don't really give a shit about playing actual CS anymore. I just wanna surf.
surf maps gave me another 300 hours or so of Source when I was finally tiring of it.
Yeah I do own it. Just haven't installed it since.. Probably near launch lol
oh even better! Yeah u should be all right I reckon?
Id say the core game is still alive and well, despite all the fancy stuff theyre doing now
Cool! I'll have to take a look. Surf maps gave me so much joy
Oh yeah CS is still popping, I know that much
Tastes changed over the years though. Honestly it's like HLL was made just for me
BF not realistic enough, Arma too realistic... Miss WW2 games...
Boom, HLL appears on my youtube feed.
Waited a good while to finally start playing it but I got to get on it recently cos I finally got a PC and ugh, yeah, love it haha
yeah sounds like a perfect match
Trying to indoctrinate my mates into it
yeahh same! Its no real fun playing solo, especially for tanks and I dont have much luck with the timezones and clans.
Constant t17 server issues. Cannot finish a game before losing connection. Xbox
I know @covert wing only had 10 more mins in my session and I wiould have been able to level up
This game is not playable on Xbox right now
Between the disconnects and the inability to select commander
I have played a bunch of matches on Xbox over the last few days, and haven’t had a disconnect yet
Just finished a match as commander about half an hour ago too
oh nice! U reckon ur getting the hang of it?
Starting too
Been reading/watching a lot of guides etc
Really enjoying it so far though
sweet then ur well on your way, I reckon you could be the key difference between wins or losses on console right now if u know what ur doing
if u havent already id recommend watching Monospacial's commander guide
I watched it a couple days ago lol
xp issues? want a server browser? want a diverse map rotation? hate aim assist? pissed that nobody is talking? frustrated at the lack of teamplay and coordination? getting teamkilled in spawn?
play on PC.
Why so short time to give commemdation? It is daft.
Lol
Haven't finished one fucking game without crashing today.
Or rather the T17 COMMINITY CONNECTION ERROR
Hey I just downloaded this game now. Its 11:56 pm eastern time anyone want to play with a new comer hmu
I'm on p5
Just a warning sounds like a lot of people are having difficulties
Ahh those good ol first day bugs and crashes huh?
This fucking BS every game all day
I'm sure they will get a patch going within the next couple days @covert wing
Besides all the bugs how is the game itself ??@covert wing @cobalt bronze
It’s a new game there’s bound to be plenty of issues with it
Honestly I love it and if you like tactical realism games then you will probably enjoy it
yo 🤙🤙🤙 need people to play with !!
Check out #console-looking-for-unit and #pc-looking-for-unit as well as #pc-divisions-recruitment 🙂
🤙🤙🤙🤙
It is hands down the best shooters I have played. It has a perfect ballance of gameplay, immersion, pace etc. The teamwork is so much fun. Generally just one of the best games I have played.
Why are ppl still so shit at this game, it has the easiest gun handling mechanism i have ever seen
hello i am new here
Who on ps5 looking to squad up?
is any one willing to accept me on their group?
Are you looking for a clan ?
Unsure what you mean by group.
yeah basically
@marsh glade I suggest you go and play on a few clan servers.
You'll get a feel for the server, or find a few that you'll click with.
Then just go through there discord.
Think about if you just want some fun casual gaming + matches, or just some easy gaming, there are clans for both.
Good luck.
ty i will check it out
This shouldn't be a given, no. And also, it's 2021, get a clue and stop simping for the fucking joker jesus christ
It's right bang in the sweet spot for people that can't be fucked with hardcore milsim games but find BF and CoD too simple and casual
Uhm okay 🤣🤣
That feel when you sympathise with the bad guy way too much and look kinda weird and creepy to everyone who touches grass on occasion
I bet your 10 get blocked lmao
10? Lmao. God, I fucking wish kid.
me
Twitch got hacked
source code, revenue numbers, the works
all info is pointing to it being a legit af leak
Worth changing your password and activating 2FA
Do you show up on the tactical map? I have yet to find where I am on it
Yes. It also provides a little ping on the map where you are
Theres so much on the map I've yet to locate myself lol
Orientate where you are based on objectives. You should at least be near the objectives
That's the sectors right
Can pistols 1shot the chest if youre close enough?
Alright ty
So the black circle is the objective
Yeah. In warfare you'll have an offensive and a defensive objective
Highly recommend this guide to explain details
Happy to break down here though if needed
Ok so the neutral sector is unlocked and once it's captured depending on who captured it, the sector next to that one becomes unlocked...right?
That sector map helped alot
So say like my team captures the neutral sector...the first enemy sector beside the neutral one becomes unlocked? And if the enemy captures the neutral sector, that first friendly sector beside the neutral one becomes unlocked?
Yessir, after the neutral is captured, the 2 meeting sectors (friendly vs. Enemy) are always the active ones
Ahhhhhh I understand it now. I thought it was always random which ones were locked and unlocked lol
The only thing that will be random for each match is a sector’s strongpoint, which will vary in location within that sector 🙂
Is the game cross play?
Between consoles yes, not PC
Ofc and it won’t be otherwise I guess
Greetings Soldiers!
Correct as far as we all know
I think in the field manual mentions the game having 15 sectors....I finally understand what that means
Yeah, each map has 15 possible objectives, five of which are used per match, and only two of those are active at any given point (offence and defence). Offensive gamemode is different altogether
Still 15 possible objectives, with 5 being used in a match, but the gamemode has different rules in place which affects capturing
Yeah I don't think the field manual mentions the fact that only 5 are used
Gp coming in with that 🧂
I think he's talking about the field manual in game, which is less than clear and potentially out of date
Yeah I meant the one in game lol
oh word, you referenced the community guide further up
yeah the ingame guide is outta date and kinda dogshit
Pictures help alot lol
The community made manual is very good. All new players should read it
And wont
😫
But also a lot of veteran players should read it too
or you know, tips in the loading screen, death screen, etc.
Nerd
🤓
So in a game, with very little communication. What is best for me to do. Create a new squad and just drive supply trucks to the frontline??
You'll probably find console will have alot of artillery gremlins and partisans
If u have friends to squad up with it seems goos
Good
Not sure how it works on console, but I usually jump around to different squads and see who is talking. If you don't get anything then make your own squad and try foster communication.
Just mic check people who join ur squad
I will call for a mic check and explain that I will kick people who don't communicate or play as a squad
yeah
^^^
I am very lucky as i have a mid tier computer and a series x
So im able to bring some experience over from pc to xbox
Im like, level 60 odd on pc
You don't need to communicate a lot either, as long as the squad is playing cohesively
Yeah
Sticking with your squad works wonders
Dont go partisan on ur own
Dont lone wolf
A cohesive squad can mop up so many people
If your sqaud has a decent diverse makeup, just running in a basic order near eachother already gives you a significant advantage over a decent amount of players
When i get my friends on the game imma run squad lead
None of them have ever played before so they need some guidance
I would but anti-tank is just too fun
if a squad sticks together then even a medic is semi useful
Hey I’m looking to team up with other new and/or experienced players who communicate in order to keep on learning the game and working together to win control over strong points/sectors. I play between 1pm-5pm US eastern time if anyone else plays around then.
check out #console-looking_for_unit
I am not seeing that channel or I would
Any new players here that want help from an experienced player? Has 1200s (level 185), has Mic, and knows the ins and outs of this game? Shoot me a DM. I am willing to show anyone the ropes how this game should be played and what good teamwork looks like. I am NA based EST and on nearly every night.
hmm. You should have access through your xbox role, but the discord roles have been kind of weird lately.
Hey!
Hello
How is everyone!!
Decent looking for ps5 ppl
Same, lookin to squad up
U on ps5
Its cross platform anyway, but i actually am
What’s ur gt
You can add people on the game, you want my ps gamertag?
Ya I’m gonna inv u to game do u also have mic
Yeah, wanna use game chat?
Ya
Nice
Ya I invited u btw
Can u send another
U in game chat?
One sec
I left party which one u gonna join
I accidentally left well I had to go anyway so ya
Hmm?
Nothing gtg
Hey everyone!
Is there anyone around who wants to squad up and learn this game together?
I've only played a couple games so I feel like squadding up is going to be the best experience!
hello new friends
Hey!
Just played first rounds last night
used to play Squad a lot a few years ago, so I get the basics pretty well and understand the flow of the game
but man the problem that isn’t really solvable is if you don’t have a good set of squad leaders / supports / engies you’re basically fucked no matter what
Hello I play three game now, I'm a New player and I don't receive any exp, that is normal ?
Does anyone wanna squad up as a newbie? I'm on ps5
Can't see a ps5 looking for unit chat. LFG 18+ only please
Ah it suddenly popped up that's weird
Im up for a few games. Im a total noob never played before and im on ps5
Might take a while for it to appear for some reason. Just showed up for me this morning, like 15 hours after I clicked the ps5 icon.
Great! What's your psn? We can party up
No problem thanks!
Well would you look at that, it appeared!
Wished it into being!
Yeah unfortunately there's an experience bug at the moment that is being worked on.
is there anyone here playing on pc that would be willing to show me the ropes?
ask questions and you will get answers. also check the pinned messages in this channel for community guides and videos
how do I filter out unpinned messages? I rarely use discord to it's full extent
and nevermind
its the big thumbpin at the top of the chat
yep. check those out first, then ask any questions you still have. Most veteran players are willing to help
i noticed that trying to find a server that was less than 100ping and nearly full was impossible, does 100+ping feel noticeably different or not
I'm usually fine at even at 180-200ping
I can't use a sniper at that ping, but most everything is fine
Anyone know any good Xbox milsims for this game
100 ping isn't bad. I start to notice it around 160, past 200 I have trouble. Where are you playing from?
colorado
why can't I see the playstation channels? I got the role but nothing pops up
that's strange there are a few west coast and central servers that should be good ping for you. I'm east coast, but I have friends on west so we tend to play both east and west servers
Evening
This has been happening to a bunch of people lately, try flagging down a mod for help
ty, I'll do that
np
testing to see if i have a roll
Anyone on console willing to take in a new recruit
Man, there are so few Xbox users! Looks like I am going to have to make some PS friends! Ha!
I am having the same issue with the #role
I don’t see any XB channels
I play on Xbox but taking a break while they work on the connection/server issues
I also don't see any xbox channels
are there any other HLL server for other countrys?
its a bug getting fixed
Cool
Noob question: what do the supplies icons on the maps mean?
It means there are supplies on that spot that can be used for building different structures (usually Garrisons or engineer structures). They're dropped there by Support infantry, supply trucks, or commander abilities.
I forget how close you have to be to them
So only useful for engineers and SLs?
or AT
Yeah. German AT can build an anti-tank gun for 50 I think.
Same for US actually. Not sure about Soviet
same
Got it. Thanks!
No prob
does anyone know of anything for british faction ?
There is an update that is supposed to add them coming up.
nice
50 metres. If you can see (even the smallest font) the amount of supplies left in FFP, they are in range
Can you invite friends to your current game?
Thanks
American
Hey new to the discord and am looking for a squad that communicates. Gonna be on most of today. My gamer tag is KRITTY530 for ps5 add me.
#console-looking-for-unit is your friend mate!
So many questions
Gotcha bud. Same here. Did my first match and while it took damn near an hour it was crazy fun to play a team based game. Reminds me of socom a bit in that regard. Look for an add from A_Dad_That_Games
In my earlier game, i was matched up on EU servers. Anyone get this? What does it all mean?
Same here. Finished one match. A freaking hour!!!! No xp 😢 😭 😡
How is everyone doing!?
Hey Jaso, how are you finding it on Xbox?
<@&365680483276816385> Hey I've a question for one og you all.
I jumped in here to see if anyone was down to party up? From my understanding people can get selected from match to match though?
Separated not selected
Not 100% sure mate, have a chat in the #console-looking-for-unit and see if the guys are having the same issues.
I don't have a PS5 yet, so am a PC goon for now 😉
This was posted 15 hours ago
I was just about to ask this lol I played so many matches but I'm stuck at level 3
Good luck out there in the field using the only loadout you have unlocked 😂
i sorta perversely think the ease of aiming ends up harming player ability to paly aggresively more than help
When the mil sim got aim assist
Nice, i don’t follow game companies tho. I let the people tell me whats good, like you just did. 👍🏿
no timings to share on it yet
bruh
war is peace
Can you invite people to your current active game or no?
on steam they can join you by right clicking your name and clicking "join game"
I don't think you can invite people tho. Idk about console either
ok thank you
Yeah, I'm a Level 22. I should be a Level 25 atm
And the classes should be at 3
I'm down if you are :)
When the game barely works on Console 😫👌🔥
^
Anyone willing to take on a new recruit teach me the ropes
Didnt even know the game had aim assist. Didn't feel like it. Or I'm just bad at aiming 😂
Yeah as much as I love playing the game, I'm not about to play no hour and a half long match and get zero xp out of it. Hopefully it gets fixed quick
looks accurate to me, within those palms are $40
I would if you're on console and if the game works
I have terrible aiming too 😭😭 I'm so trash
I've been busy with 2042 beta. I'm sure they"ll get it fixed soon, feels good to play an actual authentic WW2 game again
Yea I’m on console
First day actually
I was just playing battlefield 2042 and I switched to this. This makes battlefield look like call of duty. 🤣
How many hrs in game roughly ?
I just started yesterday so I'd imagine not that many. My first few matches I got xp but then it just stopped lol
Where do I get more ammo? Do you only get it from the boxes the support class drops?
Infantry
Yep, thats not much.
You'll need a bit more patience.
Yep , ammo from the supply guy.
But hey respect, living long enough to need ammo, not bad.
I hate how Battlefield has essentially become a big team version of Call of Duty. If Call of Duty is McDonalds then Battlefield is essentially Burger King 😭
Based
I’ve been dcd before and my friend could reinvite* me on Xbox and the same vice versa
Yea that keeps happening to me on ps5 but i can't figure out how to do it. lol
I just went to my friends profile and hit invite
So if I run out of ammo I gotta depend on somebody dropping an ammo box? Dang lol
thanks, ill have to try that next time.
I mean it makes sense but dang lol
Yup teamwork makes the dream work
So far I've had 1 match where people actually used their mics so I'm scared of having to depend on someone lol
can bullets penetrate cover? Fences, trees?
yeah basically
sometimes
it's very inconsistent
is there any plan to ad the pacific at any point
Just start talking you'll be surprised, plus supply role is one of the most important roles in the game, at least to take at the very beginning....gari's down.
Plus you can re-supply yourself.@hybrid sequoia
This game is really not beginner friendly lol. Spent like 30 minutes try a figure out how to resupply a tank and I just gave up
Again respect, you survived long enough to need ammo, not often needed.
^
This game really takes skill and patience
Love how they don’t force you to do a tutorial if you ain’t want to tho
In this case I do 🥲
Drive the tank to the base there is a resupply engine back there and you just drive near it
Anyone using mic on ps5 so he can add me?
#readme-rules and click
to access console channels 👍
Is their a tutorial for PS new players ?
Check out the Field Manual in #hll-guides
Don't think there's any actual in game tutorial tho the hints on screen are very useful
Sorry, guide is in #telegrams
Hi there, on PS5 and cannot hear anybodys voice chat. There is a popup on the bottom left hand side of the screen indicating they are talking but I cannot hear them. Any advice?
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Pin that sucker @glad pasture ! Love it
what happened to the AT role, can't see the wrench
Hey mate welcome
Hi all, i am new here. Just downloaded the game 2 days ago on ps5 and loving it. Just 2 questions: 1 how do i setup a cross play account ? 2 is there a way to find my location on the map ( i keep zooming in and out to find my own location). Keep up the good work devs and i curious to find out what this game will have in store for the future
@harsh depot
I was thinking about downloading this game for my PC but I'm not sure if my computer can handle it. AMD 2600 chip & RX580 Graphics card. What do y'all think?
Awesome site. Thanks.
👌
Recommended 2600X and RX590. oof! 😦
I’m deaf so not sure how I’d be able to learn the ins and outs
Half deaf person here. I've met a few deaf gamers and even mute gamers who were able to succeed through typing.
As for learning the ins and outs through reading something, I think the Hell Let Loose New Player Guide will help you out a lot
**PC GUIDE: ** https://bit.ly/HLLNewPlayerGuidePC-U10
XBOX GUIDE: https://bit.ly/HLLNewPlayerGuideXboxSeriesSandX
PS5 GUIDE: https://bit.ly/HLLNewPlayerGuidePS5
Thank you!! I appreciate it big time
what do u guys think the brits song will be ?
😂
Check your settings in the audio section of the options. I’m not a console player but that would be my first guess
Suche Trupp auf Ps5 Dm me
Managed to get it sorted. I had the chat settings turned off on the PS5 quick menu. A setting you cannot actually access through the normal audio menu in the settings of the system!
This is the same issue I have but on the xbox. Wonder if it's similar 🤔
👍
Rule Britannia maybe?
It was one setting change and immediately began working. Fingers crossed it's an easy fix!
"It's a long way to Tipperary" or "We're gonna hang out the washing on the Siegfried Line" would be my guesses
ah yes, 18th Century marching songs in a World War 2 setting. 
Idk man lol I'm American
I'm not British but I know that your examples are kinda....very anachronistic
I just googled British WW2 songs and that was on there for some reason
Tipperary is actually a WW1 song
but so is Over There
so it could still be used
For Japan, eventually: https://youtu.be/JoC3EU_H2tc
Really good one, too
And for Italy, if they ever make it in: https://youtu.be/7qgfG2fy3No
brits could use some Vera Lynn: https://youtu.be/HsM_VmN6ytk
oh, absolutely!
but this feels more like a menu/barracks song
oh yeah, its not victory music
the previous examples would fit better as victory themes, imo
They need more contemporary music for the menus
in general I think both the menu and the end of round music could use some additions
i need the soviet national anthem in my life
Lili Marleen
cringe.
I NEED IT
way better picks
it stirs me
what would be nice is a mixture of different songs for the menu and different victory songs
wouldn't hurt if Soviets, Germans and Americans would get some additional victory songs
im resigned to playing it over local with soundpad
😬
How do I get a refund from xbox ..I've had it ..with the server conection ..fck this
Lol it's free on playstation so I'm guessing call or email them? @gleaming mesa
I know how u feel though. I wanted to try this on my series x but it's not free so I said fuck that. I'll just play it on my ps5 even though I dont really play my ps5 as much @gleaming mesa
I'm on xbox
so I just got the game and realised im terrible at first person shooters
also new to this whole discord thing
I feel like a PC baby
Hi is any one elso also getting kicked out of the game and freezing the ps?
Yes. Its an issue the Devs have addressed on their Twitter. Basically, they're working on it.
Thanks.. I really like this game
gay
Xp still not working and frequent dc's?
victory music is rule britannia, no questions.
just started too, add me on ps gerks12
Yo I just picked up the game for Xbox, if anyone needs an extra player let me know. I’ll roughly be on at 6:30 est
My gamer tag is HoodPigeon04
Hey all I'm looking to join a group with mics so I don't have to play with scattered randoms online doing their best to avoid each other
If you're looking on console, check out #console-looking-for-unit
Worth it
whats it like ?
Pc is very team based requiring you to work together
Graphics are good and you will feel immersed. The maps are actual recreations of the real towns
but is it fun
Yes
hows the gunplay
Hardcore, you will die in a solid body shot or headshot
seems extreme
It is!
does everytone sniper
Only 2 sniper squads per team.
A sniper team has a squad leader spotter with smg and one sniper
So 4 snipers out of 100 people
ok
good goood
one last question
i can deside form this or battlefield v
both are on sale
which is more fun
Two completely different games
This is more like operation flashpoint
Very different style of game
think he was afk
oh i see
sick
You can use that site to just view my HLL clips if you want some actual footage
but how do u know u killed them
BFV is riddled with cheaters on PC and has no more support, may as well get this instead
Non fatal hits to the body make a squishy sound, a kill makes a hard squish, and a headshot will always kill and ding their helmet off
You can hear the first guy I headshot out of the truck
I’d say this game is far more rewarding for kills and objectives
Just requires teamwork and has a learning curve
i was gonna buy the new battlefield but it looks like shit, ima get this instead
I didn't like the beta for 2042, you can see why in #off-topic-mess-hall
On pc just swap squads until you get guys with mics. Usually the first squads made are the players who communicate
any better shooters on steam ?
Sandstorm
i have it
RS2: Vietnam
Insurgency sandstirm bro
its better ?>
Squads is also pretty nice
Squad is the modern version of HLL
what about arma 3
It also has a much faster pace
Arma ain’t worth it anymore
Not without mods, anyway
oh ok
Arma good like 10 years ago
Lmao
Squads been in development for like 10 years at least, game is fleshed out great
RS2 Vietnam is very good, I enjoyed it a lot. It's just like the same few hundred players, though, so you're going to run into a lot of shitbuckets
ius squad better than hell let loose ?
Gonna be subjective
cuz hell let loose is on sale and sqaud is double the rpice
I think you'll get your money out of HLL
Remember you don’t HAVE to buy your keys on steam 🤣
There's a lot less going on that you need to be aware of than Squad, way more accessible
Not that Squad is that complex to begin with
Sandstorm is fun but feels very campy
Squad is HLL on crack. Communication even more so
i like the ww2 guns
Ye squad is very fun in a milsim imo
I bought HLL for like $17 and got like 220 hours out of it so far
Most people play both
I bought HLL for free
Similar game, different time periods
Major value, as much as I complain about the game in another channel here 😂
moment
We talking pc, nothing bad to say lol
Hopefully the pacific war is added as well
I think it would be insane to have battles Iwo Jima
Pacific / North Africa/ Russia plz
Nice
Russia's in the game
Console *
Pacific is a must lol for this
They can add it in after the bugs and getting kicked out of games is fixed😆
East / West Europe
Pacific
Russia
Africa
Man, don't even get me started on bugs
Will the graphics get updated on consoles or is it the best we got?(on a series s)
I’m sure we’ll get another pass soon