new-recruit-barracks

[lethal nimbus]

But should I?

That's $45 towards a ps5. Think of the savings.

[little berry]

I mean that does little to quell fears as Insurgency Sandstorm was up for pre-order up until the last second before they pulled the game from the store and delayed it last year.

I mean I would pre-order @lethal nimbus that way if the worse comes to pass you still get the money back

Would help if we got an official response here not on Twitter

[dawn widget]

Berlin map when

[little berry]

But they kinda brushed that off to look at social media which doesn’t help but increase the validity of my point earlier

[lethal nimbus]

My primary concern is that I bought hunt showdown the other day on Xbox and it was a trash port. I refunded it. They won't refund another purchase if I do it again.

Don't want to end up with a shitty version of a game I already own on pc

Is the preorder discounted at all or is it just dlc?

[little berry]

Just the vanguard stuff comes with it

[lethal nimbus]

Well I guess I'll wait and see then.

[little berry]

Oh they do and Flix Interactive was the studio that did console controls for Sea of Thieves

[dawn widget]

hey

[lethal nimbus]

Hola

[dawn widget]

I’m new to the game just played my first round I’m having trouble connecting my headphones and mic

[autumn rose]

Berlin map, battle of cologne map, Kiev 1944 map and maybe a map for like Austria 1945, with a flaksturm

Flaksturms would be so epic

Day of infamy has a really good map based around one

[modern rampart]

since they plan on doing several maps set in Stalingrad, I think it might be a good idea doing several maps for Berlin, too

like 2 maybe

[autumn rose]

I would love an outskirts of Berlin and then an inner city map with the reichstag and the town square

WoW flashbacks

King tigers dueling t3485s and is2s in the berlin streets

Pushing through the reichstag hallways as a soviet and fighting in the speech hall

Would be so fucking epic

Outskirts could be good too

Open rural areas will small dense villages and bombed out areas along with maybe an airfield

A map on an airfield would be so cool

[craggy wadi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRfVzNNy8M8 try this

[turbid dawn]

I very much doubt that. We’re a week away from release, the game is preloaded on my Series X, and I got another 9gb update for it today. The PS5 Beta and PS Plus news is likely just a marketing deal with Sony

[autumn rose]

They're definitely coming to consoles

Now whether the squad communication level will be decent after launch is to be seen, but knowing before hand how many users will definitely not have microphones, I could see the devs adding like a basic response wheel for those players

Kinda like how sea of thieves had the choose your own generic response wheel

Like yes sir no sir need supplies have supplies tank in front infantry confront taking fore

Fire

Stuff like that

[lethal nimbus]

I am in the Water!

[autumn rose]

That ones necessary

"I am drowning!"

Oh god the medic call out

Its gonna be like tf2

"MEDIC, MEDIIIIIIC"

Every 5 seconds lmao

[lethal nimbus]

The game will be unplayable with all the ps plus players who think its COD

[autumn rose]

They could even do like generic voicelines

Maybe each face could have their own

Day of infamy does something similar

[lethal nimbus]

I like that idea ya

[turbid dawn]

Communication in Insurgency has been surprisingly high so I’m hopeful we’ll see the same in HLL. I think it’ll take one talkative SL and people will pipe up

[autumn rose]

I really do see this game as a spiritual success to the day of saga

Like day of defeat and day of infamy

Day of infamy was my favorite shooter for a long time

[warm knot]

too bad they dropped support for it

[autumn rose]

HLL just feels and plays like how I image day if infamy would if it came out today

Yeah

Fucking sandstorm killed it

It has like 50 active players now

I was never a huge fan of sandstorm

It felt like the red headed step child between insurgency and squad

[modern rampart]

wait what.

[autumn rose]

It wants to have bigger and more open maps and worlds but each map feels small for what it is

Yeah lmao day of infamy is dead sadly

[modern rampart]

oooh

[autumn rose]

I haven't seen the active player count above 200 in years

[modern rampart]

I thought you were talking about Sandstorm

[autumn rose]

Sandstorm has a decent base

But like I said it's just a weird game

Its not open or customizable enough to be a tactical shooter but it's too big to be an arena shooter

[modern rampart]

I already very much like that they plan on expanding the Eastern Front besides Stalingrad and Kursk

the premise of Kharkov seems nice

[autumn rose]

Yessssss

Also map with a flaksturm

Honestly that would be legitimately the coolest map

[modern rampart]

late war maps set in Germany

[autumn rose]

Yesss

Or Austria

[modern rampart]

Aachen, Cologne

[modern rampart]

could do Budapest

[autumn rose]

Cologne imo could be the best

Oooo yes

Hungarian map

Cologne would be cool for all of it

[modern rampart]

I wonder if they will make a Crimean map

I am hoping for Sevastopol

[autumn rose]

River and bridge in the center with bombed out city blocks and flaksturms

Anf the cathedral

[modern rampart]

sounds nice

[autumn rose]

Ooooo yessss that would be so fucking epic

Like stalingrad but western and better

[modern rampart]

late war US vs GER maps should be the remaining ones

[autumn rose]

Yessss

[modern rampart]

I think we have enough Normandy maps

maybe another Ardennes map

[autumn rose]

Cologne would satisfy my want for more western maps completely

[modern rampart]

I mean...there's a huge chance that Remagen will be another US vs GER map

the notorious bridge map they have been hinting at since before U6

also: if we get to the Pacific do some stuff besides Iwo Jima. Okinawa, Tarawa and Manila would be nice

Manila could be ebic

[distant heron]

The pacific will be very nice

[dawn widget]

thanks. I think it’s my mic I just ordered a new one it’s hard to play and not talk I feel useless lol

[craggy wadi]

np, yes, try to communicate as it is smarter and more fun

[dawn widget]

Yeah I’ve been watching videos how to play too lol cause I die so fast no chance to even find enemies

[bronze pendant]

does everyone use the in game voice chat or do people use this discord to talk

Im thinking about buying it im just concered a bit about player counts

[warm knot]

most players use the in-game voice chat

[dawn widget]

ingame voice is best

[cosmic portal]

is the game gonna be on discount since its going free on ps5 for the ps plus month?

[native furnace]

its frequently discounted and has free weekends

id say odds are good

[narrow frost]

Yep, I think they announced that just today.

[cosmic portal]

nice

thank you

[ornate yacht]

Is the game cross compatible between pc and playstation?

[cosmic portal]

i think they said it wouldn't be

pc players would have more precision and i dont think they added aim assist for PS5 players

[ornate yacht]

Okay

[crystal flare]

Any know how to make the name plates only show up when you are aiming down sights? thank you in advance

[unkempt storm]

Only ps and Xbox

[dawn widget]

are the servers down?

[hardy cedar]

servers have been acting strangely the whole day

[dawn widget]

I can't wait to get this. I think I'll be getting something I can play it on this Christmas :)))

[tidal yarrow]

One of my favorite things is running past random teammates who are having discussions in local voice chat and catching some ridiculous argument

[dawn widget]

i hope you will enjoy the grind for cosmetics and dying alot

[lethal nimbus]

How does voice work on ps5?

[gloomy grove]

https://www.battlemetrics.com/servers/hll?sort=-players

https://steamcharts.com/app/686810

There are enough players, you'll be fine

[hardy cedar]

Lies. 1. The game is too fast paced to have any banter. 2. Nobody talks on local.

[spice tartan]

which region of the world are you from

or rather, where do you play

[hardy cedar]

i was joking

i play EU severs

[spice tartan]

EU are quiet servers

try US, they talk more : D

if you are looking for banter

[hardy cedar]

but muh ping and lag

[native furnace]

no worries man, Oceania here playing on US East servers, 200 ping ez as

[spice tartan]

ping doesnt matter too much in this game

[delicate juniper]

it does, but it used not to, in the far past

[spice tartan]

ok

[hardy cedar]

matters more than in arma, but less than in cod 😄

[delicate juniper]

higher ping in HLL means often being killed first and hearing the gunsound that killed you even a halfsecond after - making impossible to pinpoint the direction

delayed placements of boxes/buildables, guns refusing to shoot when you click

much more frequent grenade bug problem

etc...

oh and a dead opponent you killed running on a spot (with running animation, but already dead) until you shot him again

also, the character model instead of falling on the ground can disappear instantly just by blipping away the moment you make a killing shot

while sometimes in case of friendlies the body stays there with friendly icon even after the player gave up - makes false alarms to medic (you come to the body just to find out you can't revive the guy, because the friendly icon is just a bug and the player is already running alive after respawn already)

[hardy cedar]

are you playing with 2000 ping man? :D

[delicate juniper]

no

[hardy cedar]

i mean im gonna try US and see for myself

but for 150-180ms that ia a bit weird

[delicate juniper]

but situations like that happened to me the day when I was testing new patch... despite I had ping of ~100-120

[hardy cedar]

maybe just the game not being optimised for 100ms

as battlefield 2 was for instamce :D

[delicate juniper]

and it seemed to be server dependant (one server with problems I mentioned, while other server with no probs at all)

[hardy cedar]

ive heard people are having server specific problems

was playing on one server yesterday, clanmate had ping spikes and terrible lag, jitter and whatnot, then we switched servers and i was the one having lag spikes

[delicate juniper]

yeah, but before the patch those problems I ever had only when I tried to connect to a server on the other side of the world... the ping meter is either lying or ... no idea
...still... I haven't ruled out a possibility if the problem might be on my end

[hardy cedar]

many factors indeed

[dawn widget]

Rubberbanding grenades and vehicles seem to be dependent upon server performance.
The cheaper purchased hardware (such as smaller VMs running the servers, etc.) have these issues often - but almost non-existent comparatively on the beefier servers.

[sterile venture]

how to get good

[warm knot]

learn how to read the map and know where the enemy is and is not

[sterile venture]

why are some bushes solid

[warm knot]

that's just how the game is

[spice tartan]

Cause reasons

[warm knot]

turn your foliage setting up to the highest setting to minimize that issue

[hardy cedar]

because bushes are solid

if you mean normandy hedgerows

[sterile venture]

Ones that line roads

[warm knot]

yeah, those are hedgerows

[uncut wolf]

did you ever try to walk through a thick hedge?

it's not easy

[spice tartan]

Do you mean to bullets?

[sterile venture]

bushes

[sterile venture]

but you shold at least be able to push yourself through slowly

its like saying I cant walk on mud because it is hard

[autumn rose]

?

Hedgerows are extremely thick walls of foliage wood and branch

Majority of the time you definitely would not be able to push through

And all of the hedges in game have quite a few common cut through similar to real hedges

[modern rampart]

especially in Normandy. The hedgerows in Normandy are unique.

[autumn rose]

Even thin patches

Yeah

Now tanks not being able to go through them or shoot ap through is a bit weird

But normal troops makes sense

[uncut wolf]

Tanks struggled a lot with hedgerows in ww2

It was a huge issue for the allies

Rounds would def go through

But this is a game where small wooden planks will stop a tank round so... What are you gonna do

[modern rampart]

that's still very frustrating for tankers

especially in combination with the low render distance

[autumn rose]

I do remember seeing a photo of a Cromwell that got stuck trying to push through a hedgerow and shot

[gloomy grove]

Some of the hedgerows have dirt mounds in the middle which stop rounds

Fairly certain it's reasonably modelled on the hitbox front now

[slender sparrow]

So, why're tanks borderline useless now? Takes a year to switch seats, takes another year to switch gears, AND you get instakilled by AT players who have 2 rockets to kill you with. Seems like there's no point in using tanks anymore, when every single squad has an AT player.

As much as I adore this game, tanks just ain't fair, nor fun to play as.

[uncut wolf]

play heavy tanks, it takes 3 rockets to kill a heavy tank

switching seats shouldn't be done much since the game is meant to be played with 3 players in a tank

[slender sparrow]

Forgot to mention Satchels that can one-tap a heavy tank

[uncut wolf]

yes, this is a punishment for being in a poor position to get satchelled

if you are good at tanking and position your tank in the right place to have infantry support, you won't get satchelled

at least not very often, if the infantry wave dies off suddenly you might, and that's fine cause that means the enemy outplayed your team and they should get rewarded for it

[prime quartz]

yea there isnt really any rason not to use a heavy

2 players is really all you need too

although if you know what you are up to you can solo okay

[uncut wolf]

yeah with 2 players you can do pretty decently, the seat swap change kinda sucks for duo tanking but it's still possible to do very well with 2 players

you can fan the seat change while in commander seat and cancel it at the last second, so if you have to swap to gun you will do it faster

[slender sparrow]

It's just not fun spending 15-20 minutes driving around the map getting into a good position, to get instakilled by god knows what. One tapped by enemy tanks, one tapped by infantry, one tapped by mines. Tanks also have limited ammo, before needing to drive another 15-20 minutes all the way back to the base, as apposed to infantry who can just respawn with full ammo after 15 seconds. And then there's the invisible barbed wire, and textures not loading in despite being on the highest graphic setting, making tanks even worse. Tanks are in a very very bad spot right now. I have over 1200 hours on tanks, but took a 3 month break. Recently came back, and they're just awful now.

[uncut wolf]

tanks are honestly better than ever

just play heavy

[slender sparrow]

Wrong

[uncut wolf]

You clearly don't understand tanks if you think they get 1 tapped by mines, 1 tapped by enemy tanks, and think ammo is a legit issue

tanks have tons of ammo, it's pretty rare to run out, though if you're having a great run it's possible

fuel is cheap enough that you can essentially just respawn too if you want

[gloomy grove]

Recon tanks is where it's at for fun tank gameplay

[uncut wolf]

The only thing you said I agreewith is the invisible barriers not rendering at high distance, that makes tanking very annoying

[gloomy grove]

Soloing recon isn't too difficult still either. You just press the change seat button earlier

[uncut wolf]

but basically if you drove to a "good" position and then got instakilled, your position wasn't so good

or you're driving a light/medium tank and ran right into a heavy tank

light/medium tanks are in a pretty rough spot I will say, not much point using them. Recon is fun and you can do well flanking if the enemy isn't very alert, but that's about it. other than that no reason to not just play heavy tanks

[slender sparrow]

So, light and medium tanks are just useless? This just adds to my argument. Tanks should never be useless, period. Medium tanks used to be my go-to, becaause of their speed. But now that's nerfed, and a bird shitting on them can blow them up.

[uncut wolf]

yes they're pretty bad, mostly because they can't penetrate enemy heavy from front and get 1 shot by heavy tank

but it's kinda a non-issue for tankers cause you can just get a heavy tank

fuel is plentiful

[slender sparrow]

I despise the gameplay of heavy tanks. Sitting in one spot for an hour, shooting every soldier who comes across the field. That sucks, and just ain't my thing.

[uncut wolf]

you don't have to do that lol

skilled tankers can be quite dynamic in their positioning

[prime quartz]

admittedly tanking is somewhat fucked by the plentiful AT options

[uncut wolf]

in fact, sitting in one spot is just begging to get marked and taken out

[slender sparrow]

Well, you cant push up either. Otherwise BOOM fuckin one shotted by whatever the fuck

[prime quartz]

it depends on the server but if you end up with 3-4 guys on the opposing team who decide that destroying armor is their life's calling you will be in trouble

[uncut wolf]

I only really struggle vs AT on certain maps where they have lots of flanking options

PHL is the worst

[prime quartz]

infantry up time is much better than armor and friendly infantry is often not that committed to protecting you

[slender sparrow]

Multiple classes have access to satchels now, which means there are 4x more AT players, than actual AT plaayers.

[prime quartz]

so a guy can try to get you 10x times in 5 minutes

you can stop him 9 times but he just needs 1

[slender sparrow]

^

[prime quartz]

its been a long term issue for the game

the thing is it appears fairly randomly. Often the opposing AT doesn't care that much or just isn;t very good

[slender sparrow]

I never had an issue before they nerfed the shit outta tank movement

[prime quartz]

but sometimes they will care and will be good

[uncut wolf]

i almost never get satchelled ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[slender sparrow]

Lucky af

[prime quartz]

Yea, tank movement nerf hurts for sure

[uncut wolf]

It does happen sometimes, mostly when I assume my friendly infantry will do literally anything

If more people supported tanks they would be a lot more impactful

That's a community issue more than game design issue

[prime quartz]

imo its a game design issue

[slender sparrow]

Back to my point. Tanks in GENERAL, right now, are in the worst spot they've ever been

[prime quartz]

since game design defines how the community interacts

Squad's design is far more strict than HLL and as a result its much more likely that players support armor

because the game design trains the playerbase to act a certain way

[uncut wolf]

I still disagree. Tanks are strong, AT now have to get on top of you with a satchel and take you out

[slender sparrow]

Squads tanks are fun af

[uncut wolf]

Since it's 3 rockets to the ass to kill

[prime quartz]

I think tanks are less fun than they've been in ages

[slender sparrow]

Cause they actually have an impact on the match

[prime quartz]

that doesn't mean their underpowered

but they just aren't near as much fun as when you could really maneuver them

i feel like a raid boss which is a step down from the old design imo

[uncut wolf]

I agree tank design isn't as interesting and leaves lots to be desired

but a well played heavy has a ton of impact

[slender sparrow]

AKA drive faster than 1mph, without taking a decade t switch gears

[prime quartz]

Yea, I guess it depends on what we are talking about

[uncut wolf]

I regularly have 5-10+ vehicle kills and 80-100+ infantry

[prime quartz]

I do agree that a good tank can do work

so in that sense tanks are in a fine place

but I also think they aren't as much fun as they used to be/could be and in that sense they are in a bad place

[autumn rose]

Satchels are probably my favorite little feature in the game

[slender sparrow]

But that's only if you don't have 3-4 AT players hunting you down the whole match. I swear, every time I play I have AT's up my ass the entire time, preventing me from doing anything. It just pisses me off, and makes me not want to play the game anymore.

[autumn rose]

Setting satchels for 60 seconds in a locker enemy points defensive position before it opens up is awesome

Just watching it go from 0 to 10 kills and remove the entire point

[uncut wolf]

I think satchels are a fine reward for being able to get right next to a tank without getting killed/him noticing and moving

[autumn rose]

I would like the H3s too

[uncut wolf]

again with good positioning and keeping awareness of friendly and enemy movement patterns it doesn't happen often

[prime quartz]

like I said I do think there are occasions where you are going to get fucked as tank and its a bit of a balance problem.

But its difficulty to engage with because generally you aren't going to have opposing AT that good/committed

like I remember seeing a guy launch a Panzerfaust perfectly into a tank 150-175 meters away

just the perfect arc

[autumn rose]

I would like if the german 2nd at got the satchel and 2 H3 magnetic minds

[prime quartz]

and like I would not want to tank with him in the game

[autumn rose]

The mines would be damage equal to like a bazooka but need to be stuck to a tank

[slender sparrow]

But it's SO EASY to get next to a tank. Tanks have utterly NO close-range defenses. I don't understand why the tanks in this game don't have an MG on top to help with this.

[prime quartz]

because you would die

rifle fire is stupidly accurate and you'd just get pegged

[autumn rose]

Well yeah I seldom die to satchels as armor if I am playing it safe

Having a full tank and a decent position makes it nearly impossible to get satcheled

Plus if someone puts it on after a major sneak just kill them and take it off

30 seconds is a lot of time

[slender sparrow]

Again, not ever since the movement nerf. If a satchel player is 75m behind you, you're just fucked, cause you can't physically turn fast enough.

[autumn rose]

?

How

[slender sparrow]

I LOVED playing tanks before they nerfed the shit outta their movement. I just wanna know why they did that.

[autumn rose]

If you have a 3 person tank it doesnt matter if hes 75 meters behind or setting it right then

[slender sparrow]

It takes a fucking year to switch gears now, and the tanks drive slowwerr than before.

[autumn rose]

Get out of the tank then

[slender sparrow]

With my pistol, againstr a whole squad. Good idea.

[autumn rose]

If you are having whole squads behind you that's your fault

I've only once ever been killed by a satchel in a fully crewed tank and it was definitely our fault

[slender sparrow]

How? Do you people not know how easy it is to simply hold 'W', put down an OP to easily respawn, and get behind a tank?

[autumn rose]

You can remove satchels by hand btw

Where are you positioning?

The majority of maps have good open areas to use and have visibility

[slender sparrow]

Not 300m away from a fight like most tanks. Cause that's being useless, and boring.

[autumn rose]

You're exaggerating

You can be extremely close to combat and not be murdered instantly

But you need to be decently often and having someone spot consistently

Avoid city blocks or blind spots like the plague

[slender sparrow]

Tell that to the seemingly endless amount of At players, and other tanks who hunt my ass 24/7. I guess I'm just unlucky af or some shit.

[autumn rose]

And in the event that someone gets behind you with a satchel get someone to jump out as you spin the tank

Maybe the crews you're getting are just ass

I had a rando the other day with me in a sherman 76 on SME and we got 19 armor kills to a 4 death count as the only tank squad

We got hit by panzerschrek a lot and hit many times

Having good positions and being willing to move and relocate a lot is very advantageous

Most armor squads wont make a lot of movement for fear of not knowing what could happen

But being able to move stop fire move stop fire especially engaging with combined forces is extremely good

[slender sparrow]

See, whenever I get hit by literally anything, I'm just instantly dead, have have no time to react. Or, I get hit once, but it takes 3 years to switch gears, so I'm just dead anyways.

[autumn rose]

What tanks are you using consistently

And are you solo or with full crew

Because it sounds like your crew awareness is the biggest issue

Also some maps are just bad for armor

Hill 400 coming to mind

[slender sparrow]

I used to be a Medium tank player, but apparently the only tanks worth using anymore are the heavy tanks. I play with 2-3 people

[autumn rose]

Hurtgen too

Medium tanks are interesting imo

They're good to have in addition to a heavy or ass infantry support

But they dont really do armor on armor well rn

[slender sparrow]

They're just too slow, and squishy now. I seriously don't understand why they wwere nerfed.

[autumn rose]

And to be fair basic armor doctrine is made to avoid major tank on tank combat

I would like a firepower buff but I actually dont see a huge issue with their total playstyle

But the mediums definitely need better performing guns

And the t34 just needs a buff overall

Panther needs a gun and armor buff so hopefully that will come when the panzer 4 is added

[slender sparrow]

I usually play with just 2 people, since I dislike having a driver who kinda just sits there doing nothing 80% of the time. It makes me feel bad lol.

[autumn rose]

That's fair

You just need to be switching in to commander a lot

[slender sparrow]

Yeah, I'm usually the driver/command seat

[autumn rose]

Basically be in commander unless you know you're about to fire or shoot

Always have an ap preloaded

Have a good driver

Constantly be watching out for anything and have open coms

[uncut wolf]

need to look at the map a lot too

[autumn rose]

If you do all those things you can do decently well even in a light or recon

Yes

That especially

[uncut wolf]

to avoid getting flanked you have to know where your friendly infantry is holding

if their line breaks you need to get out of dodge quickly

[autumn rose]

And vice versa

[slender sparrow]

I know the basic man, I have over 1200 hours on Medium tanks. I'm not a dumbass. I'm just complaining about the pointless nerf to my baby Medium tank 😦

[autumn rose]

Make use of disorder or disfunction within enemy squads

Yeah mediums do need a buff

But as you said in the beginning, satchels imo are the least frustrating at method

[slender sparrow]

I can never tell what kills me anymore, since I immediately get the '(10s) Until Redeploy' screen. Just instant death.

I just assume it's a satchel, since that's the only thing that (Should) 1-tap you.

[uncut wolf]

if you have an nvidia card you can use shadowplay to watch the clip, sometimes you see something you missed

sometimes it's just a mystery

if you're in a medium you do get 1 tapped by enemy heavies tho

[autumn rose]

^^

[slender sparrow]

But wwhyyyyyyyy'd they do that 😦

Mediums have never been OP, I just don't understand why they got nerfed so damn hard.

[autumn rose]

If it was really realistic that would be all you ever got with armor

[slender sparrow]

If it was really realistic, people wouldn't have the ability to respawn and continue to use a billion AT rockets on a single tank.

[autumn rose]

Yeah but youd need 5 people to crew a single heavy tank and youd all die instantly if you got penetrated

And you wouldn't be able to repair a track in 1 minute and definitely not hull or engine

[dawn widget]

If it was realistic you wouldn’t respawn at all.

[hardy cedar]

oh look, another reason as to why 1 minute lifetime and 4 minute cooldown OPs would make more sense, instead this magical AT battalion infinitely coming from around the bushes. Would make sense from a garrison since lets pretend its a well stocked and manned position.

[atomic edge]

HEY GUYS I AM NEW ANYONE WANA HELP ME I CANT GET A SINGLE SERVER LIST TO POP UP

im on pc

[spice tartan]

installed the public test environment instead of the main game?

[atomic edge]

i think

do i need to refund my money

[spice tartan]

no

just download the main game

not the public test environment

[atomic edge]

FUCKIN A MATE

im a retard i swear

[spice tartan]

should be two options. the top one is correct

[atomic edge]

dude thank u for solving my issue i changed my ping thing from 5000 reccomended to 3000

lol

[spice tartan]

no worries mate

hope it works

[atomic edge]

man add me bro

if this works imma be going no life on it i herd its a very good game

[spice tartan]

: D

[atomic edge]

had to check it out lol

[spice tartan]

you american?

[atomic edge]

yes i am

[spice tartan]

then you best start off on american servers

[atomic edge]

why

[spice tartan]

im EU so you would have some ping issues

[atomic edge]

yes and no

if the ping is 120 for me im good

any higher than that prob

[spice tartan]

east coast?

[atomic edge]

midwest

i can run off east and west servers

[spice tartan]

its 120ish on east coast

probably a bit juicier in the middle

for EU servers

[atomic edge]

im inbetween the east and west

umm idk i play alot of games on the eu servers like bannerlord arma 3

apex

pub g

[spice tartan]

it'll be fine

but a nice US one is Glow's Battlegrounds for example

that's one I can recommend

I like their map rotation and the guys playing there are nice too

[atomic edge]

idk mate im kinda a mouthy dick escpecialy when my team wont covor fire

[spice tartan]

: DD

[atomic edge]

lol riseing storm 2 made me this way 😦

but serious quesiton tho

can u tell your getting shot at

or is it just a noise and hope u dont get hit

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[spice tartan]

eh

mostly yeah

but its subtle

aint no bigass markers popping up to indicate anything

[atomic edge]

i mean are there shot indicators ?

[spice tartan]

its a noise and it has a direction

no there arent

[atomic edge]

ahh realistic

no respawns?

[spice tartan]

mostly you just go down like a sack of shit

there are respawns

but the spawns have to be built by the team

so with a crappy team you have few if any options sometimes

[atomic edge]

ahh so its best to get clanned up then

[spice tartan]

the game is a lot better with clans yeah

in my opinion

im off mate gnite

[atomic edge]

yeah i just dont wana come across some gunho MILSIM NUT

[median ivy]

Anyone played on Xbox series x yet?

How does it run?

[prisma vessel]

Not bad, sadly quite a bit of texture popping and there's way less graphic settings than I hoped

[median ivy]

😦 hopefully popping is fixed with next graphics pass

[lethal nimbus]

There is stuttering as well on occasion

Games are pretty dead.

[dawn widget]

its new

[hardy cedar]

one of the best features of this game (and should be the industry standard) is Alt+F4 working

[stoic abyss]

Is he’ll let loose coming out on PS4 or only ps5?

[finite ore]

Ps5 and xbox series s and x only

[spice tartan]

You dont want it on ps4 anyway

Barely runs on PCs lol

[stoic abyss]

Haha yeah I guess, got it on pc runs okay most of the time tbh but would have liked it ok consol

[spice tartan]

I cant see how it is not suffering on console

Aiming seems horrific and people dont seem to talk much

[stoic abyss]

On ps5? That’s a shame

I’m just gonna stick to pc then, having a lot of fun with it

[prime moat]

Anyone know if this trial series-x version includes the improved aiming patch?

[dawn widget]

Why does the silver vanguard DLC not give the german outfit? It gave me only the soviet stuff

[finite ore]

Game runs great on xbox,loving it

[dawn widget]

heil salute for axis ?

animation announcement

[dawn widget]

if they even add a censored eagle on one of the helmets, i dont think that it will be added and also why would we need it

immersion

[hybrid dragon]

How do i get vet rank in this server?

[atomic pulsar]

The role is a perk for those who supported the Kickstarter campaign

All the roles from Scout to General are

[hybrid dragon]

Is there a rank for people who own the game far before it got released?

[dawn widget]

^

[atomic pulsar]

Not that I'm aware of, no

[dawn widget]

before it got released voice chat was aids

[hybrid dragon]

i agree

[dawn widget]

all progress saved though

[hybrid dragon]

i had a lot of problems with people with loud microphone

i was just getting earraped

[dawn widget]

sounds were better

[turbid dawn]

I don’t know if it contains the patch, but the aiming seems decent to me. Had to tweak the sensitivity to my liking, but I’ve no issues aiming.

[finite ore]

What settings you have it on

[turbid dawn]

I think I've got Sens left at 50% (Default), and I just upped the ADS Sens to 26%. Didn't feel like it needed much as I've always played on Default or Lower sens.

The default ADS sens of 20% just felt too low. Found it hard to pull away from the aim assist

[finite ore]

Ah ok i might go back to default

[turbid dawn]

I think it comes down to how you play. I rarely find that I need to spin on a dime because someone is behind me

[finite ore]

Yeah true,I've tried different settings,but can't find one to my liking,I'm getting kills I'll just tinker around some more,thanks

[turbid dawn]

The developers have stated that they're going to split the Sens out for X and Y Axis, so that might help when it's implemented.

[finite ore]

👍👍 cheers bud

[atomic edge]

hey yall

any one wana squad up with me?

[finite ore]

I'm also having problems with coms cant hear anyone when there talking

[mint patio]

@dawn widget brother? is that you?

[nova solstice]

Hi

[covert wing]

Tried the trial on xbox. This gqme is amazing.

[tacit tangle]

I still need to play the trail

[willow trench]

Hi guys, bought this game in a black box: I'm sure I will love it!

[short lake]

why does it still say not compatible :,

xbox s

[vernal vale]

Xbox Series S?

[stuck trail]

If your playing on the on s it wont work if your playing series s it might be a small technical issue on your end cause I got buds on series s playing

[prime quartz]

It works on all new Xbox

S and X or whatever the nightmare naming convention Microsoft came up with

[stuck trail]

I was referring to the old xbox one s but yeah the naming is bad

[prime quartz]

Actual Xbox one, the new Xbox One, the Xbox One S, Xbox S

like actually what were they thnking

[stuck trail]

i just think of it as Xbox One then the Xbox Series X or Series S

[prime quartz]

it makes more sense if you are talking about it. Like using your voice

but I've noticed people tend to get confused in text chat more often

[stuck trail]

yeah

[vernal vale]

The Xbox Series S and Xbox Series X are the two Next-Gen Models required to play Hell Let Loose.

Despite the naming confusion the Xbox One S or Xbox One X are last-gen and will not support this game.

[short lake]

xbox one s

i wasted my monies dammit

[sly spoke]

hey idk if this has been answered or not but will HLL be on xbox game pass

[finite ore]

No^^^^

[sly spoke]

cool thanks

[stuck trail]

Just refund it Microsoft is usually chill bout it

[severe pebble]

greetings people i was only wondering when the winter stuff like the covered hood on the neck and the other helmet will be added again since i knew they put it for a limited time are there any news?

also i wonder for the other helmets for the "twitch drops" how they actually works?

[rapid walrus]

not yet i belive

[pliant jackal]

not yet, yep

[misty mango]

I can play this on macbook right?

[spice tartan]

Theoretically yes

[misty mango]

Why theoretically?

[spice tartan]

Who knows what kind of macbook you have or what operating system

Give some details if u want actual help

[misty mango]

Air

Just got it

Macbook air the most recent one

[spice tartan]

Probably not

https://www.reddit.com/r/HellLetLoose/comments/j34uqk/hll_on_macbook_pro_via_bootcamp_extremely_low_fps/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[misty mango]

I got the new one which has the new M1 chip

That guy only had an intel one

[turbid dawn]

While definitely faster, the integrated GPU still isn’t going to compare to the recommend GPU. If you’ve got good internet and HLL works with GeForce NOW, then that’s a decent option.

[spice tartan]

prolly doesnt matter

RAM might matter as well

[misty mango]

TBf I got no clue my specs

Lol

[spice tartan]

i would bet a small amount of money on the fact that it probably wont run decently enough to bother playing it

[misty mango]

I swear u just spoke a foreign language lmao🤣

[misty mango]

Alr fairs, thanks, just looking for a good WW2 FPS shooter

[spice tartan]

do you have windows installed?

[misty mango]

No

Didn’t even know that was possible

[spice tartan]

are you aware that most games dont run on the mac operating system?

[misty mango]

Mhm

I bought it mainly for a college computer, but gonna play some games on it

[spice tartan]

you will either have to do some Wine wrapping or something (maybe foreign language), but the easiest is installing Windows as a second operating system via Bootcamp

but if both of those statements are alien to you...

probably your gaming experience is going to be limited

[misty mango]

It is limited

[spice tartan]

just filter games on Steam with the "mac support" option and see what you can find

[misty mango]

Lol

[misty mango]

Alr will do but some still don’t work lol

[spice tartan]

that would be the simplest solution

[spice tartan]

maybe, but its the least amount of reading into "foreign language" sort of stuff

lol

and still most likely to work

[misty mango]

Alr thanks mate, appreciate it!

[median ivy]

Just run windows on Mac

Problem solved

[autumn rose]

@misty mango you may find better luck using a game streaming service until you're able to get a console or better computer

One of the guys recommended geforce now that might be a good option for you

A macbook air really just will not be able to do HLL or VM gaming without extensive modification or alternatives

HLL being hell let loose obviously and VM standing for virtual machine, which would mean running a copy of windows alongside your mac OS. You could also just make a partition for windows to try and game with that but I have a feeling that without some decent computer experience prior you'll be lost and more likely to damage your existing hardware then add new functionality

[dawn widget]

pog

[native furnace]

anything mac just will not be able to run HLL man

no chance

[manic pier]

How does switching ammo work

I keep pressing b but it’s not doing anything

In tanks I mean

[native furnace]

if you have a shell loaded of either sort you need to fire it before you can switch

once the barrel is empty, press 1, or 2 to highlight either shell type then press R to relod

[manic pier]

Ahhhh thank you

[lethal nimbus]

Anyone else getting maps with four people on them on Xbox?

[onyx violet]

is there a reference image with all the class icons?

The wiki has them, but on individual pages. Not useful while in a game

[native furnace]

crop the bottom half theyre alt designs

[onyx violet]

Thanks!

[dense fiber]

hi

im new

[pliant hamlet]

A quick hello to to you all, looking forward to console launch, been enjoying the 10 hour trail on xbox.

[thin linden]

hi

[normal pike]

Hey man welcome!

[misty mango]

Yh mate thanks for ur help, I think u are right and I’ll just leave it till I get another laptop or summin

[dawn widget]

is there a separate PC discord?

[gloomy grove]

I'd say this discord is mostly PC players

[dawn widget]

awesome. didnt see a role for PC so needed to make sure 😅

[late jackal]

Maybe players have already used up their 10 hours. What region are you matchmaking in though?

[inner minnow]

I just heard about this game and it gave me huge MAG vibes 😍😍😍

[spice tartan]

only 100 players, not 256 like mag : D

[hardy birch]

What’s an ‘airhead’?

[spice tartan]

It's an ability that the commander has to drop a little crate with a parachute, that essentially acts as a garrisson for a limited time. If your commander calls it in, it shows up as a little triangle with a parachute on the map. Its useful, cause you can drop a spawn behind enemy lines.

The enemy can do this to you as well, of course, so you have to look out for it.

[hardy birch]

Thanks alot, been wondering for awhile already

Idk why Im getting the feeling that it’s just weird shooting with the M1 carbine

The Geman Karbine feels much more accurate

idk if it’s just me but I actually aim close at a guy, fire a couple times and he’s not dead yet

could be me, could be the M1

[dim pulsar]

Carbine has a shorter ohk range than kar98

You also have to lead and compensate more

@hardy birch

[spice tartan]

its just worse than the g43

[hardy birch]

Thanks for the info guys

I was already wondering why I couldn't kill anyone while hitting them

[uncut jasper]

New players should remember to do this at least once per match

[tacit holly]

hey guys stupid question but how do you ping in this game ? have seen mmb but nothing happens whenever i press it. Do i need to bind it first ?

[uncut jasper]

Should be MMB by default when you're infantry or certain positions in vehicles.

[bitter helm]

new player here: interested in playing scout/sniper with a also new friend.

I know one of the teams job is counter-arty... what exactly do we do when we find enemy arty? just killing the person crewing it doesnt stop them from respawning, so do we destroy it somehow?

[next oasis]

dont waste a scoped weapon to shoot a stationary target in their HQ the entire game.
you are much more useful elsewhere

[bitter helm]

who counter arties then?

i thought maybe a sapper charge was used to knock it out

[next oasis]

anyone else, anyone can go into the enemy HQ and deal with arty

[uncut wolf]

recon is the only way. You just spawncamp arty until they give up

recon has the best chance of doing it since they can setup OP near the arty, if you do it as a regular soldier and the arty guys get you once you have a hell of a run to make

[prime quartz]

Recon SL

Recon SL does the counter

[spice tartan]

The reason recon is usually sent is their far reaching OP. But like Chummieboy said you dont have to necessarily do that every game.

[prime quartz]

sniper goes shoot people at the cap

[tall orchid]

you’re also free to use the recon tank while is even funnier

[prime quartz]

also when I paly recon I just don't bother with artillery shit

someone else can figure it out

[uncut wolf]

I don't either, it's very boring

[tall orchid]

blitz in, drop an HE around, drive off

come back 3m later

lather rinse repeat

[uncut wolf]

But a good arty is pretty devestating

[prime quartz]

thats my teams issue, not mine

[uncut wolf]

That's the reason nobody defends points too lol

[uncut jasper]

Playing recon: 😴

Playing arty:

[tidal yarrow]

🙏 Deployable mortars to replace arty when, devs?

[tall orchid]

[tidal yarrow]

I'm wondering how it'll work. New class? New loadout for current class? Would it be its own squad akin to Armor or Recon?

🤔

[tall orchid]

engineer prob, likely a new role

[next lava]

In my opinion, it could be a new loadout for engineer/sapper?

[median ivy]

Hated recon SL at first because so many snipers refuse to use comms or follow as a squad, it’d be nice for assist kills for spotting.

Always fun when you have a competent squad mate who shoots what you spot.

https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/dir7y-paws/video/144598259

[tall orchid]

sorta like the MG role will likely get an HMG emplacement in a new role

[next lava]

It should definitely require two roles to deploy, and one-two people to operate?

[median ivy]

Eng can already make hmg emplacement no?

[tall orchid]

no

it’ll prob have two spots but can be operated solo like the arty

[next lava]

They can only build defensive structures.

AT can build a gun emplacement, MG could potentially build a HMG emplacement

[median ivy]

Just make Eng build everything. Problem solved

[prime quartz]

Sniper is powerful enought that they really shouldnt be with the Recon SL

Recon SL should play back lines while the sniper focuses on playing frontline

[tall orchid]

lol

what

[median ivy]

Nah, recon sl is for protection my dude

[prime quartz]

sniper provides low value in the rear

[median ivy]

Snipes go flank

[prime quartz]

relatively to their power to pick up kills in the combat area

[median ivy]

Flanking and back spawns are sniper heaven

[prime quartz]

its a waste to have them in the rear popping garrisons, etc...

[native furnace]

got 6 other inf squads for that

[prime quartz]

when they should be in the main combat zone to make maximum use of their sniper

[median ivy]

Recon’s job is to harass and wipe enemy spawns

[prime quartz]

Recon SL can do that sufficiently

[tall orchid]

recons job is whatever I want it to be

[median ivy]

OR provide support fire for taking positions

[tall orchid]

frontline, backline, midline

[median ivy]

If you’re back line then you might as well be rifleman

Waste of space

[prime quartz]

the sniper just provides very little use doing recon things

relative to their power to rack up kills in the objective areas

Recon SL on the otherhand is perfect for that

[tall orchid]

even on offensive maps?

[median ivy]

Yes

[tall orchid]

nonsense

[median ivy]

Flank and fire from unexpected areas

You do way better and help team more

Otherwise be meatshield like everyone else

[tall orchid]

esp with the kar, I can carve a hole through a frontline from waaay back

[median ivy]

But your angle of fire is limited bruh

[tall orchid]

bruh

[prime quartz]

if you are engaging the frontline area enemies then you are participating in the frontline

[tall orchid]

check it

every map is different

if I see a way to play frontline and be effective

imma do it

example, hill40, the scar

I can pick apart people from across the river all day

[median ivy]

So you’re the type of recon that places a spawn behind your own front line

[prime quartz]

HLL has essentially 3 sectors:

**Friendly rear: **Any area that is owned by your team and not an active cap zone

Frontline: Area that is active cap zone(s)

Enemy rear: Any area that is owned by enemy tea, and not an active cap zone

[tall orchid]

I put a spawn anywhere I think I’ll be effective

after 1000+ hours I’ve got the experience to know when and where that is

[prime quartz]

Recon SL is generally best in Enemy Rear while the sniper is best in teh Frontline

[tall orchid]

right, generally

I agree with that

[median ivy]

Frontline from behind he means

[prime quartz]

no

doesnt matter where

as long as you are getting kills

frontline can mean a lot

[tall orchid]

but fuck all these generalizations and ‘right way to play’ shit

[prime quartz]

There are many right ways to play but the wrong way is for the Recon SL to insist that the sniper follow him everywhere

[median ivy]

So you’re telling me you get MORE kills looking directly at an entrenched enemy front line, instead of an elevated flank where they can’t see where they die from?

1000+ hours wasted then

[prime quartz]

you can

[tall orchid]

how many hours you got in the game bud

[native furnace]

Hurtgen and Hill 400 are snipers haven imo

[prime quartz]

I am assuming you are playing on Xbox?

given your icon

and name color

[median ivy]

PC alpha and Xbox

So awhile

[tall orchid]

aight so is the other side of the river from scar not a hella effective spot for a sniper to post up?

if not arguably the absolute best spot?

[median ivy]

It all depends on active map points.

Generally speaking, leave frontline combat for rifle squads

supporting fire from flank positions and clearing rear enemy outposts/garrisons will net you way more action and team points

This allows the bullet sponges to actually move forward if they’re competent

[tall orchid]

exactly, it all depends on active map points

[median ivy]

Recon load out could use more smoke nades though

[tall orchid]

but you said "Recon’s job is to harass and wipe enemy spawns"

[median ivy]

Yes

That goes with the outposts and garrisons

You play your “frontline” from their rear or side

Otherwise you’re just a lemming

[tidal yarrow]

And to make playing arty unfun

[tall orchid]

so you understand how "Recon’s job is to harass and wipe enemy spawns" is an absolute and "Generally speaking, leave frontline combat for rifle squads" isn't?

talkin outta both sides of your mouth my guy

[median ivy]

No it is not

[tall orchid]

like i said earlier, imma play however i feel is most effective

[median ivy]

You’re cherry-picking

[tall orchid]

and call it a day

[tidal yarrow]

I haven't even played recon yet.

I'm afraid I'd fuck it up

[tall orchid]

recon is a utility role, you're equipped to function well in a bunch of different scenarios

[tidal yarrow]

Marking targets and pinning down areas with sniper seems kinda fun

[tall orchid]

it def is

[median ivy]

It’s great fun, especially since as a SL you can place down outpost spawn with no limits across the map

[tidal yarrow]

I've played sniper classes in other games, mostly TF2, and I wasn't too bad. I think the bullet mechanics might be the biggest difference in HLL

[median ivy]

Having a competent sniper with mic is money though

That follows you

[next lava]

In my opinion it pays to stay close, just for the CQC protection and OP spawn, in combination with an airdrop behind enemy lines you can really wreck a rear flank

[median ivy]

Sadly many commanders don’t understand the mechanics yet

[spice tartan]

yuck an opinion instead of COLD HARD FACTS

[median ivy]

Dude chose commander last night and was trying to be infantry instead of doing supplies

[spice tartan]

he took that slot

he can do whatever he wants

[median ivy]

Entire team was just running him over with vehicles because he was screwing us

[next oasis]

mute commander
go to active objectives

it's not complicated

[median ivy]

Commander force kills garrisons to troll

[next oasis]

Too many people underestimate just being where you need to be, the active objectives

[median ivy]

No kick ability for troll commander

HUD should be on for default so the newbies can follow directions

[tall orchid]

we had an absolutely beautiful arrangement of tanks yesterday on foy

[median ivy]

Disgustingly nice lanes of fire

[tall orchid]

#pcmasterrace

[median ivy]

PC AT still get 4 / 2 rockets?

[tall orchid]

2/2

[median ivy]

Wish lvl 1 support could drop at rockets, dude kept dropping me an ammo box lol

[violet idol]

Then what does the concept of progression mean, in any sence.
Give everyone everything, from the begining 🤦‍♂️

[gloomy grove]

Yes, that would be great

Cosmetics as the only unlockable

They'll never do this though

[violet idol]

For good reason

[gloomy grove]

The good reason being that removing progression options always annoys people. Incredibly difficult to go back on it without devaluing someone's time. Loadouts should never have been locked anyway

Loadouts in general need a huge overhaul, but none of them should have been locked away

[violet idol]

Progresion loadouts , define the importance of the role, which one learns through the co-operation with others.
Rewarded through time spent in said role.
So i dont agree.

[dawn widget]

15th Panzer Grenadier Division IS RECRUITING
EU and US Kompanie
15th Panzer Grenadier Division HLL is not affiliated with any political party nor do we condone the actions of war criminals of any allegiance.

Who are we?
We are the 15th Panzer Grenadier Division and we have been around since the 23rd of March 2021 (brand new). We are not you normal hardcore Milsim group, we are just a bunch of friends from the US and EU and play Hell Let Loose and other games. There is no paper involved in joining our kompanie, you can come here and play with us if you do not want to play alone anymore.

What do we stand for?
We play Hell Let Loose as our main game, but we play also different games with our members. We are open to very new players, with some guidelines that will be shown below. We want to be known as a community that you can come around and have fun and are looking for members that want to achieve something big with us. You can find our US server below. In the future our EU server is going live stay tuned!

Requirements:

• 17+ years old
• English as the main language (all nationalities welcome)
• Working microphone mandatory
• Be respectful to other members within our discord and other ones too
• Be looking to be a part of a group that is still coming together and help found a unit that we can all enjoy together!

You can find our US server under this name:
[15.] Panzer Grenadier Division US/NY

See you on the frontline, soilder!

discord link: https://discord.gg/9BsGNwKH6x

[violet idol]

@dawn widget wrong room i would have thought.

[gloomy grove]

#pc-divisions-recruitment

[gloomy grove]

I think you've used words to say absolutely nothing there.

Loadouts should provide different tools for different jobs within the remit of the role. AT I think is a decent example of a good loadout set, with the rockets, satchel/AT mine, and AT Gun being in different classes. Want one thing, you sacrifice another. All of those things are entirely situational, and if you have a lvl 1 AT guy trying to take out a heavy then you're just putting your whole team at a disadvantage. They might have worked an unbelievable path to the back of a Tiger, and then be unable to actually take it out because they've got the Bazooka and not unlocked the satchel yet.

If they had them both unlocked, and they picked the wrong kit then they're punished for their poor planning. If they have them both unlocked and pick the right kit, they're rewarded with their ability to get to the position as well as the planning. If they don't have the right kit unlocked then they're not rewarded for their ability but punished because they haven't put the hours in

[empty rover]

I don't understand why we unlock kits rather then have kits that are just good for different situations

[gloomy grove]

Exactly. That is the ideal situation

[hardy birch]

I've never known what these were for. Are they used as tank traps or something?

[glad pasture]

When building fortified positions defending a location it used correctly can block roads and access to armoured vehicles. Or block entrances where buildings have surrounding walls and open gates.

[hardy birch]

Ah I see, thanks alot! I usually see the engineer slot being 0/1 while I playing and I was curious why nobody plays it. To me it seems like a fun and crucial role

Does placing those fortifications and barbed wire also cost supplies?

[glad pasture]

As an Engineer it is vital you build NODES for your commander you also gain XP. Take the resupply vehicle with the supply crates and position nodes carefully.

[glad pasture]

Yes you can return to the main SPAWN point with the resupply vehicle to get extra crates.

[hardy birch]

Oh damn

So it will automatically resupply?

[glad pasture]

YES x 2

[hardy birch]

Just anywhere around the HQ or at a specific spot like the repair station for tanks?

[glad pasture]

Yes where the repair station is

[hardy birch]

Thanks. Any other crucial tips & tricks for the role?

[glad pasture]

Hang on.

[hardy birch]

[glad pasture]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCA9Z9aZfkc&t=458s

[hardy birch]

Thanks alot

Does building those fortifications also cost supplies? Its not mentioned anywhere so Im kinda wondering

[gloomy grove]

Big tip for engineer on warfare, don't just build up the strong point. Use the defences around the place to funnel players where you want them. If you leave a player with nowhere to go, they'll destroy your fortifications. Give them a route, and they'll take it

[gloomy grove]

Yes it does

[glad pasture]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOnvbMs6t4k

[hardy birch]

How many? 50?

Or does it depend on the fortification individually

[gloomy grove]

Depends on the fortification

I think it tells you in the wrench menu when trying to place them?

Can't remember now

[unkempt storm]

yessir

[turbid dawn]

Speaking of the Engineer. What’s the point of the level 3 loadout? Just unlocked it and from the Barrack screen it looks like you lose the wrench, hammer, at and ap mines for what looks like a satchel charge.

[hardy cedar]

yes

you take a role of demolisher instead of builder

the second one is for mining

[turbid dawn]

Ahh, so more for taking down enemy fortifications than building our own. Shame, I wanted to use the MP40.

[vernal vale]

Satchel is a great Anti-Tank weapon as well.

[brisk ingot]

its great but I prefer bazooka/panzershreck

[gloomy grove]

Satchel is pretty much the easiest way to kill a heavy tank

[covert wing]

I am new to this game but still after a few hours I get it and still see squads with no comms, not building garrisons - playing like brain dead.

Just put a disclaimer in the loading screen... winning is about team work, communication and building god damn garrisons.

[next oasis]

do you know what an OP is

[heavy wolf]

Can‘t wait to get the game on tuesday on my ps5 and I‘ve got a mic so I‘ll try to play it how it is meant to be played

[covert wing]

Yes and it is not the same as a garrison. But why?

[next oasis]

OPs win games

Get on your SLs ass if he isn't placing OPs or updating it in relevant spots

[heavy wolf]

OP is Operation Points?

[warm knot]

OP = outpost

[heavy wolf]

Ah ok thanks

[covert wing]

Outposts are a no brainer. They are built all the time for squad spawn. Garrisons are what gives your team a huge tactical advantage beibg able to shift the entire team to a new angle of attack or defence....

Three garrisons in good spots around points can put lasting pressure on that point. Outposts are easier to destroy and only a single squad can use them.

[uncut wolf]

garrisons for pressure are good but the really important thing is fallback garrisons (on warfare and defensive side of offensive), if you lose a point and don't have backup garry you will lose all your OP in the zone and have nowhere to spawn but HQ

so you will just get swept

[covert wing]

Yes that too.

[normal pike]

3 garrisons on your first defensive point, 2 on the second is a good rule of thumb 🙂

[unkempt storm]

Do you know the origin of the phrase “rule of thumb”? If not I’m gunna learn ya. It used to be legal for husbands to hit their wives with tree branches no wider than their thumb. Fun facts

[normal pike]

Haha, I think I have heard of that a few years back. I work with some guys that, if you were hit with a branch the diameter of their thumb, you'd be getting hit with a small tree haha.

[covert wing]

For controller you really should switch steady aim and radio.

[jovial creek]

I never heard the rule of thumb meaning, ummmmmm ok

[unkempt storm]

truly humble ain't it (jokes)

[tidal yarrow]

That's a very common rumor (heard it first in Boondock Saints) but it's never been proven to be true.

[gray lava]

Do you think they’ll add the British army?

[native furnace]

yes

[tidal yarrow]

They've already confirmed they will be

[heavy wolf]

I can‘t react to the german language role on the discord, I can react to every language but german, when I click on it my reaction gets removed instantly and no channels show up

[delicate juniper]

#hll-content message
@dawn widget

This is something you could have done to continue in a more proper channel.

I do it very often... if I expect a longer discussion in an unproper channel.

[dawn widget]

Could have just not derailed the channel in the first place

So no trailer

for console release

[sour bison]

Excited to play the game after the free trial, see y’all then

[warm jacinth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RuuY0W6VgA

[dawn widget]

this trailer is from months ago

I thought there would be a trailer for the console release specifically

[warm jacinth]

Eh

that trailer already did it's job as a trailer, can take it as both

[dawn widget]

Whatever

[heavy wolf]

How accurate is hip fire on close range in this game?

Similar to enlisted?

[unkempt cloud]

ha

hot

[vernal vale]

No ETA Currently, keep an eye on #telegrams for Dev. Blogs.

[dawn widget]

@heavy wolf don't compare this game to enlisted 😂 enlisted is the wish version of HLL

[spice tartan]

garbage

[dawn finch]

with the Console release , does that mean that PC players will play agaisnt console user aswell (crossplay) ?

[tall orchid]

no

[dawn finch]

good

[tall orchid]

never

[dawn finch]

perfect

[tall orchid]

i'd like to, just once, participate in a test match the devs put up to evaluate the feasibility of pc/console crossplay

so i can rack up a 175-0 game

[dawn finch]

hahahha

how did you get all your roles ?

ive been here for years and mostly i never seen those

[wet granite]

^ what I'd like to know is if it would be possible to have the game detect a controller, switch into a "controller mode" which ignores all mouse and keyboard input and then allow you to matchmake with consoles.

[spice tartan]

dont think so

much the same as console players with m+kb cant matchmake with PC

[wet granite]

Well I guess I should add, if it is technically possible, which I imagine it would be, but whether it's worth the development time is another story. I think it could be, depending how stable the console player base is.

[turbid dawn]

It's definitely possible, many games have input-based matchmaking (See Warzone). Not sure we'll see it here though due to playerbase size.

[heavy wolf]

okay okay, yeah it is just another f2p p2w sh*t 😦 , I am really looking forward for the ps plus of october for my ps5, I wanna play HLL so bad

[uncut wolf]

enlisted was a good concept made by a greedy studio

never play gaijin games, it's not worth the pain

[finite ore]

Enlisted pay to win garbage

[prime quartz]

Shooting is across the board harder in Enlisted

Gun handling is harder in Enlisted and the amount of damage per shot is generally lower. All this combines to create gameplay where getting a kill requires more skill than in HLL.

HLL combat tendencies are much more twitch/arena shooter esque

Enlisted itself is a lot of fun up like level 11/12 when the grind sets in but eh

[covert wing]

Enlisted is just bad. HLL is about the teamwork...

Tried enlisted. Wanted to like it, but it felt like a school project.

The first game in HLL and I instantly loved the gameplay, mechanics, meta game and everything.

[prime quartz]

I liked Enlisted for my playtime

I thought it was a more interesting shooter

Which, if you play HLL enough, what it becomes. A lot of the meta game/mechanics are essentially skin deep once you become familiar with them

Like nodes are busywork someone does during the "pre-game" period and then forget about.

[viscid ingot]

I actually play enlisted

My axis campaign levels are all 30+

I’d say HLL is a much higher skill gap

[prime quartz]

I'd disagree with that if you are comparing them as shooters

A big problem with palyers in HLL is that they seem not to understand the map size

so if you understand how to use it you can run rings around people

[viscid ingot]

I’d say enlisted is easier to pick up and just play, and I’d say aiming in enlisted is easier

[prime quartz]

but the actual shooting mechanics are not difficult

in HLL

and also prone to P2W

But again the difficult for most players in HLL is that they ahve a hard time gaining any sort of game sense because they have issues with the map size

[viscid ingot]

HLL is to me the harder game, I mean I don’t really struggle I’ve had a fair few high kill games, but it’s much more hardcore to me

[prime quartz]

whereas the smaller Enlisted maps seem to allow players to gain game sense quicker

[prime quartz]

again its an easier shooter but the map size throws players off

is what I am getting at

[viscid ingot]

Yeah definitely, although I like the whole map size thing

[prime quartz]

its why you see a string of players in HLL follow each other in a conga line right to their deaths

[viscid ingot]

Enlisted can feel small at times, having basically 200 players (most bots of course) running round in small areas

[tall orchid]

you can either be part of the meatgrinder, or let someone else be part of the meatgrinder

[prime quartz]

I wish the post-game in HLL showed the avg K/D

[viscid ingot]

I do really enjoy enlisted tho, literally unlocked the MP43 on Normandy and the MKB on Moscow a few days ago

[tall orchid]

i can see those in RCON - if you remove arty and tank squads, the average KD is something like .75

[prime quartz]

I don't remember the last time I was below 2.0 but that must mean that some people are having atrocious K/Ds

huh

interesting

well I guess that actually, like mathematically, makes sense

[tall orchid]

mmhm

there's standouts obviously but man..

[prime quartz]

someone has to die

I'm still perplexed by how bad a lot of players are in this game

[viscid ingot]

When I played I was averaging around a 4 (cannot play now due to been a console player) but most players seemed to have no game sense, especially when you have such a huge map to make flanks with

[prime quartz]

Yea, an example I go back to was campign this squads spawn at 300 some meters

[viscid ingot]

@prime quartz the squad 🦙

[prime quartz]

Willy

[tall orchid]

from a game last night on a 90 minute carentan match - the top performer had 1.08 kills per minute (arty)

next had 0.85, then 0.62

[prime quartz]

where .85/.62 tanks or infantry?

[tall orchid]

.85 and .62 are tanks

infantry usually get around .35/m

of the 100 players in the match, 57 of them had a KD >1

the highest being 20.8, the lowest was .04

highest death/minute was .69, meaning the dude died 62 times in a 90 minute game

that same guy had a death streak of 21, meaning he died 21 times without killing anyone

#'s 2, 3, and 4 had 17, 14, and 13 deaths without a kill

it's a bummer i don't have class/loadout data, i'd be able to build a pretty interesting dataset

suffice to say the best performing players in any given gave are artillery users, full tank squads, and snipers

[covert wing]

Nah. The HLL meta game is not skin deep. It is making the game interresting and creates these extra small scenarios and opportunities for fun gameplay.

Enlisted is just a sub par regular shooter to me with AI squad mates, which I find stupid and clunky gameplay. Also the maps are just bland.

It feels like a cash grab and when you look at the way you unlock stuff it is just so obvious.

[tall orchid]

though the last two are pretty map dependent - tank squads rarely do well on hurtgen or hill 400, but absolutely wreck shop on kursk and foy

[prime quartz]

it is skin deep

you saying it isn't doesn't change that fact

minutes 0-5 spam nodes

wow done

[signal harness]

Yeah, performance definitely depends on map and role

[prime quartz]

cap system is simple majority so you just throw guys at it until you get simple majority

[signal harness]

I know when I squad lead my KD is lower, but I also die less

[covert wing]

Well it does for me. Because I enjoy those moments where we look for spawns etc. And the way the cap points are random.

Enlisted has bothing special to offer, so it does not even have the skin.

[prime quartz]

tank: Just use heavies because they are dumb strong
resources: spam nods in minutes 0-5 and use commander Harry POtter ability to transmute resources/use them for free. You should never run out.

[prime quartz]

thats not really the "meta" though

i mean technically it is because its skin deep

but the meta pretends to have a lot more depth that it doesn't fulfill

the game comes down to going towards the cap and popping spawns while placing your own

whoever pops more spawns (hence gets more guys into the circle) is the team who will win a cap

[covert wing]

Was not talking about meta... but the meta game...

Everything is skin deep then. Using a mouse to simulate firing a weapon is skin deep.

Enlisted is just clunky and bad. It offers nothing special, looks kinda bad,. And the cash grabbing is disgusting.

[prime quartz]

the meta game is what I just described

[signal harness]

What's the difference between "meta" and "meta game"?

[prime quartz]

dunno. You can like what HLL offers but its not all that complex

there are a lot of doodads that make it seem complex though

the appearance of complexity while actually being simple

[covert wing]

No. I have not once had any real teamwork with randoms in enlisted and this happends often in HLL because it is so important. That is the main thing that makes HLL a masterpiece for me and enlisted just another random ww2 shooter

[prime quartz]

its not really important

it just appears to be important to players who don't know the game systems

which is fine you can enjoy talking to people or whatever but you are reading way too much complexity into what makes the game tick

[covert wing]

Lol well.... 🤣 you're funny but this is getting tedious

[prime quartz]

again its part of the problem with the HLL palyer base that they have a hard time gaining game sense

I suspect because they are not used to the map size

and as a result they need to fall back on talking to people. However, once you figure out the game you can do away with the communication and just run it silently.

[covert wing]

My take is I love HLL and enlisted is garbage. The same way I like strawberries snd dislike olives.

[prime quartz]

the core game winning loop is to place your own spawns and destroy the enemy spawns

if you are doing that you are winning and its something that can be done with ease without any teamwork

[covert wing]

Whatever. You seem to be on a crusade, but you are wrong no matter how right you tell yourself you are 😁

[tall orchid]

i just wish they'd make nodes compelling

give me a reason other than 'commander points' to build them

[prime quartz]

there are a few things they could do to improve gameplay

but yea nodes right now are such an obviously trash system

[covert wing]

Agree... all games can improve

[prime quartz]

the other big thing they could change is updating the cap system

[tall orchid]

i think it'd be rad if, say, a manpower node increases strongpoint cap strength of individual players

[prime quartz]

from simple majority

to like enemies + or something

[tall orchid]

or a fuel node would.. refuel tanks

[prime quartz]

Frankly nodes should just be ripped out of the game

[tall orchid]

like you're stuck in 2nd gear until you top off or something

[prime quartz]

but they add this aura of "complexity" that the game feeds off of

[signal harness]

I would be down if the munitions node worked like an ammo station in squad

[prime quartz]

well the game marketing

[tall orchid]

ye

[covert wing]

Simple majority is there for a reason. Your idea would make the game a practically unplayable stalemate.

[prime quartz]

lol no

[signal harness]

???

[tall orchid]

as is there's no reason for them to exist, other than to provide an advantage to the team that actually executes the chore of building them

[prime quartz]

how else am I going to grind XP?

[tall orchid]

sit in a transport truck 😄

[prime quartz]

but yea, people ahve repeatedly describe ways to make nodes more interesting and they've done literally none of it

in fact they've made them less a part of the game

[tall orchid]

i'd like to see a dev brief make the barest mention of them possibly considering the remotest possibility of evaluating them

[prime quartz]

which speaks to the core design problem of nodes. THey don't actually add anything to the game

except marketing

so you make their actual role as inconsequential as possible

[signal harness]

I'm also positive that nodes were not the original intention of the resource system

[prime quartz]

The original system was designed with an RTS style map in mind

[signal harness]

It\ seemed to be much closer to CoH with each sector being a resource generator

[prime quartz]

but they had to go to the linear map we have which undercut them

[prime quartz]

yes, think of a COH map

they are usually squares

[signal harness]

yes

[prime quartz]

usually

[signal harness]

some are rectangles too

[prime quartz]

with all poitns being equally accessible or at least relatively so

iirc not many of the 1player

[signal harness]

I honestly think we need a game mode that has the middle 9 sectors open

[covert wing]

Why?

[tall orchid]

i think that'd be interesting

[signal harness]

because warfare and offensive are boring

[tall orchid]

i mean obv it'd end up as a rush for midpoint, but i like the idea of all the sectors being open for capture at the start of a map

[covert wing]

And that would make it more interresting... more map to play on sure, but why would it make it more interresting?

[tall orchid]

well, consider how warfare works right now

first person to slap down a garrison just outside middle sector wins it

hold for 5 minutes

airhead behind next point, quickcap

[signal harness]

because it changes the dynamic from tug of war to a more mobile game

[tall orchid]

and full out assault on final sector

25m match, ezpz

[covert wing]

Hmm yeah that's a bit simplified but sire in theory.

[tall orchid]

its simplified because that's quite literally how simple it is

[covert wing]

It would just be an odd map shape

[random granite]

how many frames do the consoles get with hll?

[signal harness]

ideally, there are plenty of times where is just a 90 minute fight over the middle cap

[covert wing]

60

[random granite]

thats better than my pc at lowest settings lmao

[tall orchid]

the only things that really matter in the first 10 minutes of a warfare match are a) does an officer/commander take the supply truck, b) does a garrison get placed near midpoint, and c) does the team spawn at that garrison

if a, b, c = yes, there's a very high probability that team will win and the match will end inside 40 minutes

[covert wing]

Yes ttue and if both teams do that there is a fight