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New, extremely minor update build. Nothing that important. Check for it on your end.
Purely company rebranding within the game.
Give it a bit, or Pause the download, wait, and resume.
Check the File Explorer, This PC. Did you run out of disk space?
I have 28 gbs free
I had much more before starting the download tho
well I'll try cleaning some more
Otherwise, Idea.
Even after Pausing and resuming?
Does anyone play on PS5?
I do
Select the PlayStation Role Icon in #readme-rules and head on over to #console-general-chat or even #console-looking-for-unit
how do i get access to those channels
We're just undergoing a few changes at this exact moment but everything should be viewable and selectable via Channels & Roles top of the navigation panel.
<@&365680483276816385> how do I get veteran role? Been playing since 2019
Pay for the kickstarter veteran package back in 2017
ahhh makes sense
SSD?
Only three more weeks of crap until they fix the game
wdym
im waiting for it to go on sale
Are XP Servers bannable?
Why ask
Dawg I know xp servers exist no one’s been banned before I’m asking because this is a first
Mr high and mighty pc man
They are not ban-able to my recollection.
Hello. I am a returning player and a refugee from Battle Cry Of Freedom
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Any group looking for a medic?
why would you want to ban them lol
there are xp servers?
U go on the server build 1000 things and then u are lvl 100
…so?
Fastest way to rank up to (lvl 6) officer? Is creating nodes as a eng at the start and then changing back still a thing?
Yes
Thank you 🙂 will give it a go
Just build garrisons and you don’t need to do the engineer thing
Anyone willing to team up with me on PC and teach me the ropes? I'm literally brand new
This is gonna sound dumb because I know where I’m at — is this game worth it? I saw it on TikTok and it looks fun. I don’t play video games a whole lot anymore but I loved the original MW2, BF3, 4, and One. Just curious. Thanks!
the game is a lot more unforgiving than any of those
"fun" is questionable but it does get my heart pounding and have me on the edge of my seat
The game is a lot of fun if you're willing to give it a shot, at first it'll be very confusing and a bit jarring but by like the 3rd match you'll have an idea of whats happening. Though, I can not say how the game is on console because I dont own it on that but on PC its a great time
I’m definitely an objective player — I was usually on top of BF1 leaderboards as a medic, not having but like 15-20 kills.
Yeah, I’m on PC, fortunately
medic is a very divisive class in HLL
I just also have an Xbox so I wasn’t sure which one to select.
smoothbrains think everyone would be better suited running and gunning
Well this game is also an absolute monster for computers so yours would need to be able to run it first for PC, what type of computer do you have?
Not at all. You should just focus on spawns over medic.
Nah medics can be clutch af sometimes, when you're in the point and you need bodies seeing that medic coming around the hedgerow is enough to make me shed a tear
New players guide is pinned in here new people should read it before firing up the game it is a short read.
I agree but a good team has both, but you really do not need more than 2 medics per point if they're doing their jobs well
Or if you're going for a big flank and dont have a Outpost nearby a medic will prevent you from doing that 5 minute run all over again
The solution is spawns. Spawns fix every problem a medic does, and then some and better.
New people. Don't let people trick you, medics are an inferior solution to the problems you face in HLL.
Just because a spawn exists doesn't mean it is automatically better than a medic, your spawn could be taken down or even camped. Fat load of good that does you at that point
It’s a base Mac. /jk.
It’s an Intel. Truly new to all PC stuff so not even sure what identifies it beyond that.
If you want to contribute play classes that let you build or help build spawns.
counterpoint the medic can be shot
So can a garrison
that being said I've seen medics carry whole teams on their backs
If a medic is carrying your team it's because that team is not participating in basic game mechanics (building spawns).
most people who play medic don't do anything though and I think that's why everyone has a bad opinion
Well, if you try it out on Steam you have two hours to refund it for its entire price if it doesn't run very well. I would definitely try that if you can afford it
Spoiler alert, medics can't revive headshots and explosive deaths.
you guys know when the next sale is?
Bro idk what you mean by "Building spawns" two classes in the game can build spawns
If this helps: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz 3.50 GHz
spawn are synchronized and if an entire defending line is wiped that gives time for the enemy to draw closer
getting people back in the fight as quickly as possible is important and good medics can beat the respawn+run time
3 actually. And support contributed, but playing another open infantry SL is way more impactful than playing medic.
Anyway new people don't be tricked, you'll figure it out eventually or you won't.
Commander, SL and what else can build a spawn. Im actually curious
Recon SL
Thats just an SL
i got an i5-3570k 3.40ghz
will it still work well?
Dude, I have no idea. I’m new to the PC life.
Even then I've had max garrisons be down before in good spots and yet still you get overwhelmed because the spawn is proxied and everyone in the point is left to die and respawn because there were no medics around to revive.
oh ok
Haha sorry
exactly, play modes besides objective and you see this somewhat often
a really good push can overwhelm good defenses and spawns, more spawns is not a solution to stopping a push, it just lets you try and stem it
ideally you need all three elements to balance out, which should be naturally achieved by a variety of squad roles
SL/Commander with garrisons and outposts, engineers with clutch defenses and a line of barbed wire half a mile thick, and medics on body duty to rapidly get people back to fighting
but since 99% of people who play medic try the class for 5 minutes then decide it isn't shooty enough, they don't do anything
the lack of ammo does hurt, I've played medic a bit and gotten killed because I simply just ran out of ammo trying to protect downed squadmates, its brutal af
damm dont think ill be able to run hll well until i get better parts
You should be fine
I've run it with similar specs before
hope so, dont think itll matter much as im hoping ill get some new parts soon
getting them of ebay
way cheaper than normal, especially in this current economy yk
Only one way to find out
buying it testing it for 2hrs then refunding
Do ammo boxes decay over time? Or, does it have to be destroyed to place another?
Always had the unlucky timing of placing them when things go boom so never found out.
New replaces old
Ah, had a 1/1 showing up last night not letting me place a new one down. Affirm though, thanks!
No it will let you place a new one once the timer is up and it's recharged, it's just going to cause the old one to go away.
Timer was up and everything, might have been a bug maybe.
The ground can be finicky and there's lots of non placeable spots, gotta keep hunting until it turns green.
Or it could have had like a few seconds left, I dunno, it was late and I just wanted to get ammo down next to this mg guy for the free xp.
It won't even let you select the box to place until the timer is up
Huh, I ran around with it for a few seconds before giving up. May have just been me being dumb dumb, gonna be paying a little more attention to see if it was just me kek.
The ground can be incredibly finicky and you can only put them down in the rare building
It was on one of those wonky side roads in Omaha, forgot exactly where.
When Hill 400 comes along though, I just give up all together on placements other than in the trenches and fortification lines. Also kind of hate that map sometimes.
Had a fun match with tanks on it though, driver turned the corner at full speed to take a flank route in our M3 light tank, came face to face with a tiger and practically kissed its bumper. I shot at him with AP which I knew would do nothing but make their crew panic. With two shots we died, but we all died laughing.
why when I try to join a game does it just say search failed 🤔
Anybody need another player?
need 2 for Armor i am pretty new to HLL i have 500 hours on squad tho
Haven't played for about 6 months and I'm jumping back in, I only have about 30 hours in the game so I'm still a noob, but in that time the dev team has changed and a lot has changed. What should I be looking out for?
I'm new and just downloaded the game today anybody want to teach me the ropes?
howd your test go
any server that is doing british maps
Who’s on?
good or bad?
I havent got it yet, when its on sale i will
Just know: Single matches are over an hour long, not including wait times to join a server.
You only have 1-2 matches to test the game before you go over the refund period.
Oh ok tbf if i do go over the refund period itll be fine as i been wanting this game for months now and if it doesnt work ive pnly gotta wait a few months for my birthday where I’ll hopefully get better parts
Right now there's performance issues that affect everyone regardless of components. Personally I'm fine with a PC that was mid-range in 2016
right, will it soon be fixed
June 22nd, maybe. It's not too bad, maybe a lot more prominent on distant servers
Sounds good also excited for that fallujah game coming out the same time
Six Days in Fallujah. The game the media successfully cancelled once before, during the 2000s.
Finally returning.
was it actually going to be coming out in the 2000s
Yes.
was it not coming out because it was highly controversial
Originally developed by Atomic Games and published by Konami, it was slated for a 2010 release, but development on it was ceased when media controversy about its premise was circulated in 2009. Konami would pull the plug on the project as a result.
It would be put on hold as an IP until 2016. The original developer would also go bankrupt in 2011 during that time.
cant really blame them tbf, the iraq war is a heated topic to talk about, i dont even ask my dad what he did in iraq and afghanistan, feel like its rude to talk about that type of stuff
but even veterans who were in fallujah seem excited for it saying that you cant be covering up history yk
The media framed it as a case of, besides being too soon after the battle itself, being disrespectful towards the families of soldiers in that conflict in spite of some employees and consultancies for the game being other veterans.
right.
Anyway, that is all on that note. It is simply one of the most infamous examples of the media succeeding in cancelling a game product and blocking its release.
Moving on, some former key Atomic Games personnel would reform as Victura Games, and in combination with other new employees, form the development arm Highwire Games. They would proceed to remake the IP.
thats good, and despite the controversy around it, it should be talked about and made stuff of, thats like stopping ww2 games cause of the holocaust or something, you shouldnt be covering up history imo, even if its recent
Please keep this channel for hell let loose related discussions, any other topics should be held in -> #off-topic-mess-hall
it says no access
wait this isnt the md server
mb
If you’d like access, you need to accept/follow in https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/browse
ok
trash
its a great game. you will die a lot, but avoiding death just comes with time and learning the maps a bit.
Hey, iam new to this game
truee
Welcome! 
Be sure to check out the Ingame Field Guide and feel free to ask any questions you may have. 🙂
Hey I’m new to this discord and would like to join a clan. I want to play with people that are a bit more realistic. How would I do that if I play on Xbox
I am also pretty new to the game
#console-divisions-recruitment has many groups 🙂
Anyone wanna squad?
im new i have like 8 hours
Shoot anything that moves, build garries and ops (you'll figure out the abbreviations), help the team, and you'll be fine trooper.
i know i was a medic on the frontlines
Found a boys anti tank rifle at the local cabelas
I envy you, I don't get to go to those places often.
Love to look at those guns in person.
It would go well with my collection
Not pictured my m1 garand and winchester trench gun
Is that an actual honest to god STG44? Chambered in 7.92?
I'd guard that thing like it was made of pure gold mate (it might as well be gold bruh).
No 22lr, made by mauser
i feel like any time a mg is being fired at me this is what it feels like
Well, still looks good.
Can't judge ya on the caliber, the one in 7.92 is crazy expensive and rare.
You can buy in 7.62, 5.56, and 9mm? For 1700
I'm also just a recent college grad with no job
The 22 was 500
any one wanna play im new
Really? I was greatly misinformed then lmao.
I might try to get one in 7.92 sometime.
You can Google stg-44 for sale. I got the 22 through palmetto online armoury
I’ll have to see sometime when I get the money, thanks for telling me the actual average cost.
No problem goodluck
your cableas has milsurp? mine is just standard modern bolt actions and pump shotguns
Yeah just a few
It depends on what you're trying to get. Actual StG-44s are in the $50k+ ballpark
More like 100k
HMG was making repros in a few calibers but they went defunct and PSA is picking it up last I heard
I got mine through psa
I wanted to say that but I'm almost positive I saw one recently at RIA for under $100k
Jams a little bit
more interested in the FG42 they auctioned off
neat fact, less than 7,000 FG-42s were made
I wish a company reproduced ww1/ww2 firearms
so that one sold for about $250,000
too much money for too niche of a market
Also down in Boise prison is the first ever produced stoner
I had a stoner clone and I sold it
Didn't care for it
This is my SMLE No. 4 Mk 1* produced by Savage Arms for the Lend-Lease
Yeah alot of people don't know much about ww2 firearms. My roomates girlfriend asked if my stg was a army combat rifle
That was a fun explanation
Yeah the milsurp community is very small honestly
The fudd collectors are dying out
this is a clean as hell M1, is it a CMP model?
Yeah made in 1942, bayonet 1918
Dope
I want to get a CMP but I've heard the field grade ones they have now are pretty beat up
I would LOVE an International Harvester M1, I love guns made by companies you didn't expect to produce firearms
a Singer-made M1911 recently auctioned for $70,000 because Singer only made 500 of them
Mines a tisas I got for 350, they have cmp stores
pretty much the case unfortunately, and most people under 40 know nothing about old guns and just buy a bunch of ARs and plastic wonder-nines
I got my m1 in 2018 for $600
boomers flip them for $1500
My model 12 winchester trench gun was made in 1942 and used in the pacific theater by my neighbor who gave it to me in his will
actually makes me mad seeing boomers sell a gun with the CMP certificate like
He extended the barrel and tossed the heat barrel
that's cool as hell actually I thought it was just a typical market duck-hunting example
It's really hard to see but it has a U.S. trench insignia, I'll take a pic after the gym
My grandpa has a 1917 German luger also he received as a gift from a client
I've been looking for a Luger but the only one I've seen in a store was in significantly better condition than I'd like
that was a collector's grade and belongs in a nice hermetically sealed safe or museum
I want one I can shoot without fear of destroying something nice
Check out the Post Falls Cabelas in Idaho, I looked at one today that looked in good condition
I don't remember the price
Found some selling a “civilian” P38 made during WW2
Apparently a company was able to produce less then a thousand for civilian purchase during WW2 in Germany
P-1s and post war P-38s are actually really cheap if you don't care about it not having WW2 German markings
there's a recent batch of imported P-38s that are going for about $500
Goddamit I don't need to buy another gun right now 😂
I've been looking on Gunbroker the past couple of days and seen several M1 Garands being sold for around $1,000 on buy now auctions. The CMP stores have been fully stocked recently, which might explain why I'm seeing so many at a good price.
They just broke the seal on another lot of mothballed M1s not too long ago
Time to sell assets to buy a M1 
I'd like to make a trip to one of their brick and mortar locations to handpick one out
Yeah I think they're getting some Garands from Turkey now. Most of them looks better than the Philippine ones. More original finishes and less pitting overall.
Man I don't know about Turkish anything
I have a Vz 98/22 that was made as a Gewehr 98 by Imperial Germany, and sent to Czechoslovakia post-war, who then adopted them for 2 years and then fully replaced them with the Vz 24, and sold the Vz98/22s to Turkey. It is ABUSED
All I know is there's a lot of cats in Instanbul, Turkey.
And also to fear the ice cream man there.
The camming surface of the bolt that rotates it into battery is peened from some conscript monkeyfisting the bolt into place. Never seen that on any other rifle.
Never buy Turkish surplus ammo. Many M1 Garands and Gewehr 43s have blown up trying to shoot that stuff.
The hell they do to 'em?
Would never dream of it, my 8mm I have on hand is S.m.K Patronen made in 1939 with a steel core
Poor primer sealing/munitions not stored well. Quality control was purely a Western European and American concept prior to say, 1945
Sheesh.
Some rounds are stupid hot, like double charged
Will easily split a rifle if you get an unlucky one
I've heard maybe one in 25 is a dud round that will not fire
@harsh sonnet here's the stamp
That's dope
Hello everybody

hey guys im new lmk if u run nights 9pm-12am pacific
Algun grupo en español?
#enlist_language -> #spanish 🙂
Any new player friendly clans?
Anyone here have any tips I just started playing
Just started playing add me to play Nholli90#2780
Best advice I have is try to join a squad that communicates, and don't worry too much about dying. Dying is going to happen a lot.
i can join you
Hi

Hey man, How r ya?
im going to buy Hll soon anyone wanna help me out when i do if yall dont mind me asking
who gaming
What platform?
Pc
so i watched one video about hell let loose, and the author says "its better to shoot the right direction, than do head shoots. Is it true?
suppresion can cause a whole team to duck, but a headshot on a sniper or lone wolf never hurts
i don't really know exactly what scenario this video was addressing
but from the sounds of it the video creator was emphaising the constant firing and suppresive fire that can be implemented during battle. Just trying to 1-tap people often is not the way to go.
Aiming for kills rather than solely focusing on headshots when spotting infantry would be the most reasonable way of thinking about when taken out of context
Ammunition is plentiful per life, and there is no ticket system here. Only time spent waiting to respawn. Removing the threat of infantry and general accuracy is more important than one-hit kills.
It's better hit your target than miss.
Shoot to kill. Know your weapons 1 hit down to the body range if it has one - everything has one except SMGs and pistols.
Shooting solely to suppress is usually pointless. Just shoot to kill them
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whats better to play on pc or ps5
pc
I hate when I have a bad game and barely get kills
#pc-looking-for-unit Would be a good place to find Fellow Hll players. 🙂
thanks alot
done both and pc without a doubt
hll with a controller is an awful experience
When the game and history intersect. Thanks for the invite all. 👍
Hello I'm new to the game, was wondering if anyone is down to play and show me the ropes.
Same here looking to squad up
Are there more voice channels?
daog
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Man started raking into old war photos to post things in suggestions with photo proof is honestly going to become my new pass time
It would be nice to have more variety and historical accuracy in the maps we have.
Saw this literally at the exact moment the line played in the song. Just about dropped my phone while laughing
Lmao
does anyone know the thought process that goes through a persons mind when they join a lone sniper in a recon squad, immediately kick them, then vote-kick you when you ask why they kicked you out the squad? cause i would really like to know
Do you count towards the cap if you're bleeding out?
Negative
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Hello, why tank squadrons tend to be locked 3 man groups. I wanted to try it but looks like it is always premade
Those that are creating tank squads are likely already playing with people they know, and are locking it for them to fill the slots
You leave a lot to chance if youre playing with randoms in a tank squad
what is good start then
Familiarize yourself and make some friends
Thanks
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Any idea what the new gamemode Brécourt is gonna be about? Im guessing like a single point defence/attack
is there any point to using the secondary medic loadout, do people often need to resupply medical?
With the new bandage and morphine limits it may be more useful, so you can resupply other medics and yourself. But it's really a preference up to you
was there not a limit before?
Anyone online?
Where can i see update 15 trailer, please? Thankito
is this game pc to console crossplayable?
Such a huge missed opportunity imo, I'd love to play HLL with the console homies. It's been years let's get ittttt
this buggy unstable garbage game cant handle it buddy
Yeah I’d love to stomp console matches that’d be truly epic and balanced
So ive attempted to be tank commander as someone new in the game, I have to say i am happy that two "high" guys were in my tank.
XD
New player on PS5, I have played the game a bit already and have watched quite a lot of guides on YouTube to learn different aspects of gameplay as I don't want to be a burden on my team. Hoping to find some people to play with online. My experience with teamwork thus far has not been great due to lack of communication. I am free to play around 5:30 MST until about midnight. Thanks in advance everyone!
You will have better success dropping your details over in #console-looking-for-unit and feel free to say Hi over here as well #console-general-chat !
Thanks much!
Hey everyone!
Glad to be here!
@vernal vale Looking to get into the GOF family!
I'm not sure what GOF means, I apologize. 🥹
But welcome newcomers! 
anyone want to join me in voice chat and find a server on pc?
powerbits is a good server, it has english people talking in voicechat and its disponible at any times, its really good
Powerbits #2 i play this the most
its the best
Recruit reporting for duty! 🙂
At ease 
garries only fans, it’s a pc clan
Im looking for an airborne based unit on PC, I’m 15 btw
Im talking PC
ah, apologies #pc-divisions-recruitment
Appreciate it
Im just gonna have to make my own
Im not old enough for any of the milsims
What do you mean airborne based?
Like 101st and 82nd
I’ll even take rangers if I find one
Yeah, there's definitely units like that, but the problem is most groups have an age restriction for the sake of keeping the group as a whole professional and mature
Wouldn't suggest making your own
why are there so many servers that have like 94-99 players/100 but have a full queue?
Most likely unfilled VIP slots
what are vip slots?
Player slots that server owners can “reserve” for chosen accounts so they can always join in, regardless of player count
Thank you
ahhh ok thanks
Is this where we post lfg posts?
I think that would be #pc-looking-for-unit
it should be VIB, very important blueberry!
<@&365680483276816385>
one gone, one more to go
Hello all, im new here, downloaded the game today and looking for a team/teammates who can show/explain bit more about the game. Thank You and Cheers ✌️
That should be it. 
You forgot to ban @sweet cliff
😱
Honest mistake.
Looking to make the switch from console to PC, anything I need to know or learn?
Enemies close with greater speeds. Not by mechanics but skill.
Welcome.
Think my 3060 can handle it?
Oh yea. I had a 970 when I was getting into PC gaming. This was my gateway game. I’ve got a 3070 and it’s beautiful for what it is
Sweet! Thanks!
Who gone?
yo how do i get into the voice channels
anyone trying to run some hell let lose?>
yooo
Presuming you mean the discord voice channels, the unlocked ones should be as easy as clicking connect on them. Presuming you mean in game voice channels, C for proximity, X for squad, and Z for command (only open to officers and commander)
isnt it v for proximty c for squad and x for command
I stand corrected, listen to them ^
was wondering what my prone key was for a second there
what is "voip connection"?
i guess i cant hear peoples because its disconnected
how do i connect it?
reconnect, there's an option
Vivox connection status.
It will only ever show as connected within an active match.
Hi all. New Xbox player here with around 15 hours in game. Got the basics down. Looking for a clan or regular squad to take me on for regular game time
Head over to #console-divisions-recruitment see if there’s anything that fits your personality / play style
Somewhat new to HLL and looking to find someone or some people to show me the ins and outs of being a tanker. Anyone know who i could talk to? or where to look?
always keep your gun 360
#pc-looking-for-unit Would be a good place to find fellow Hll players. 🙂
Looking for ps uk based unit
Looking for ps na east
Except when it's better to not...
Kiting as a tank is better than just sitting in a gap with the gun forward
^^
Check out the tank bible, by koleto on the website for "the line".
Tankopedia is good too.
Short form: Do not request Heavy tanks unless you are certain you can use it well.
It's a pub game. Stop caring so much.
People should learn to use the best tools - not practice on the kids tanks
You cannot use a medium/light/recon tank in the same way as a heavy, so you just end up learning to tank in a different way than a heavy needs to be used
where does one find a team on pc to load up and play with? I am relatively new so it would have to be noob friendly lol
thznk you
new here did they fix the cross platform between consoles and PC?
No sir, no plans in the foreseeable future
Will they actually ever fix the bugs in this game?
you know now i’ve switched to pc i 110% want pc and console crossplay. 100+ kills a game isn’t enough i need more 😎
Got this game yesterday
Man its frustrating
Dying simulator
Feels like it should be a tutorial with bots to explain stuff
Just take it slow and keep your eyes peeled. Go fast and that just makes you an easy target
You know console is for people who actually want a challenge, with a more difficult input device and intact shadows #no-filter 😂
If your coming from CoD or Battlefield, getting into HLL can be hard, but once you do, there is nothing else like it
Not even the games like hell let loose are like it
I come from a game called enlisted. In HLL i am Having difficulties in being useful for the team cause i am always moving trying to flank. The visibility os horrendous and communication is poor. Not everybody talks.
From what I know, enlisted is like battlefield. Your eyes will adjust to the game soon enough, and you'll get used to it. It takes time though. And yeah, not everybody talks, but when you do find that one squad with great communication and teamwork, the game is very fun.
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how many hours have you invested in this game?
Around 80 but i got addicted on my first match
It was just so different
I came from call of duty so maybe that is why
dont get me wrong it seems exciting but walking for 10min, not firing a single shot and see a black screen cause you got killed is something not easy to overcome.
are you part of a group or something?
No
If you want to play with people that communicate more, you should join a group though
dm if you are looking for a friend group that plays often and variety of games, must be na and pc 17+
If this is happening.... Your team is doing something wrong.
What time is the trailer?
How to do I calculate distance to elevation for artillery
There's a mathematical way - but I find it's much easier to use a calculator, such as https://www.easyarty.com/
A dead simple calculator for artillery in Hell Let Loose with support for all teams.
okay thanks but is there a way to do it without a calculator
Each mil is roughly 4m (4.17 for US/Germany, 4.76 for USSR, unsure if British is different), so 100m would be 25 mils, 60m would be 15 mils, etc.
Thank you i was looking for something like that for weeks now'
Bro no way that was hell let loose
oh man that trailer
Bro that trailer looked like a game that just got out of development 😂😂😂
What the F** 💀
Bro that was hell let loose mobile edition
You know you can put the clip inside the gun?
I swear that looked like a mobile trailer 💀
That trailer was horrible
dm if you are looking for a friend group that plays often and variety of games, must be na and pc 17+
Whoever made that trailer needs to be fired immediately 💀 no way that said “yeah that’s good”
I mean they all approved it
bro was shooting a garand with the clip out of it
that was terrible 🔥 🔥
I'm just confused. HLL has put out great trailers before
It looked like a SFM animation 💀
new Team17 its seems like
Dawg no way y’all just seen what I seen
I am actually mind blown 😂😂😂💀💀
Bro this has got to be one of the worst trailers I have seen in my entire life
that has to be so embarrasing
Bro did you hear the voice acting as well?
This trailer has to have been some sort of joke, literally
Bro no way 😂😂😂
Lmao
...
can't fix the bugs and they can't make a trailer without them either..... yikers
lol
"the eyes of the world are upon you"
maybe this is the kick in the pants t17 needs to get better qa
maybe do a PTE for the trailers lmao
HLL devs going backwards to U7 lololololol.
💀
I have only seen images yet but looks oddly like the toy story soldiers
Double capacity magazine 😭
adding attachments? Extended mag?
That dosn't even exist bro 
If you look the reloading animation on the MP40 is bugged too
sandbags look plastic
16 round M1
player shadows 3 meters away, and only shows arms
every other character is still
hand clips THROUGH the camera
copy and paste trees in the same direction
all from one scene
well it is so..
I'm calling it that T17 backpedals and says the wrong video was sent and shown.
Quite possibly the worst trailer I’ve ever seen
Gory, gory, what a hell of a game to die,
Gory, gory, what a hell of a game to die
Nice, extended mag
Hey guys! Hope you are all doing fantastic 
This is my second day planning, and I was wondering if anyone could help show me the ropes? I’m still as lost as I was in my first game hahaha
Someones not gonna have a job this morning
Way to almost get away with a swastika for a profile pic 💀
Bro on the left is being crucified
Well guys... it was nice playing with you all. Now only a matter of time before we get PostScriptummed.
does anyone know if there will be pacific in future??
probably in bad condition and for money
it would be cool to play on these islands for sure
Then, write reviews. They don't read or care what people are saying here.
I'm not advocating for review bombing, but unfortunately, it seems to be the only language that the developers understand...
this hell wombat will say "oh thx for all positive comments for our trailer - agrr hll let loose for over"
devs arnt competent
making candy crush games
🥸
Hey can you guys watch this for me? I'll be right back
I... bro.... what was that trailer
Terrible...just terrible
Jesus that trailer, why? They would’ve literally been better off not releasing it at all.
Honestly this. Who signed off on that trailer thinking it was good to go? Who even made the trailer? Have they ever even played the game? This is the first time some people will be exposed to HLL, and it was the worst possible first impression.
It would have been better if they just hadn't released it. It was so bad that it was actually harmful for the brand and T17. If you're willing to release something like that to represent your game, it just shows that you don't really care about what you're doing
And with that quality who thought a teaser trailer was necessary
It's likely that the trailer was approved by someone who didn't invest much thought into it, given their focus on delivering rushed content within tight deadlines. It is also possible that the trailer was outsourced to another company. Considering the numerous issues the game currently has in general, I have doubts as to whether they actively play their own game.
THE CREATURE
It’s dawning on me that this is what the new map might look like…
Please. Don’t.
gm_flatgrass type map
wake up babe, new HLL map dropped
How do I capture GERMAN OP?
thats a real sussy lookin pfp ya got there
the clip just stickin outta the gun bru
More images of the new map
Im gonna be honest, as someone whose family members fought and died in ww2, i actually found that trailer really disrespectful. As a player of HLL, we deserve better, you guys dropped the ball hard…
i swear that is a meme edit
Unfortunately it is not
I honestly respect the team for releasing this trailer. Takes a lot of work to feel secure enough in your job to release something so terrible
I just want to know who tf sat there and greenlight that trailer 😂😂😂
It's got middle management written all over it.
Not sure I've ever fact checked something my own team produce... But then it's not being broadcast to the public
wow its wonderfull
also the red parachutes😭
Huh
They did show the actual map in this video
Ok i See. Hope it was just the trailer then
Hell Let Loose is OFFICIALLY one of the games of 2023
Hunt down the freeman
I need some training, I suck at this game, I can barely see anything 😂
Just keep moving! You will take a German op!!
They really should hire a history expert as a consultant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8u1NRAkCCs
Maybe use this next time when u announce something. Only ingame footage.
i hear its getting an overhaul too. This game is going in one direction, squad in another
How did they manage to kill this game
it is not dead but if they continue this path, it will be
maybe not kill yet, but definitely on death row
German O0!
I think the 17 in Team 17 is for the numbers of seconds they do QA on update and trailer releases.
i dont think they is going to be a team17 in a couple days
team16
team15
no no team 16 since 1 of them is fired
yes
Free Herzenkalter
POV: You are telling people to keep moving and that you've taken a German OP
The stendo!
#GIVEITBACKTOBLACKMATTER
XD
blackface racist
What?
Explode.
I really just wanna have the ability to just…have people explode
Peterrrrr
Not trying to pile on the situation but why did the trailer remind me of a tencent mobile game. I don't mean like "I think these guys are scummy" I mean the quality and overall direction smacks of a Tencent ad. Especially the closeups of the lone german dude standing there
WhatB
deserved. If Devs don't want to give a sht about their product, then we don't have to give a sht about their reputation
NEW TRAILER POSTER DROPPED
😱
The signs were there when they added community voice overs.
Clearly anybody, who cares about the quality of their product would have not added those back in the day.
Glad you like it @shrewd narwhal
Bro I’m crying
hold on i finished it
How do I join this here group?
T17 right now...
excellent work soldier
scroll up Danny...
ik i copy and pasted it spread the word this is art everyone should know toas name
if i had a Grammy i would give it to you
these memes are legendary say we ever get a dev brief?
reminded me of the “i bet you can’t beat this level” type ads
LMAO YEA
LOL
loooooool
the only good thing bout this new trailer r the new memes
When people Google the word clusterf%$k this trailer should play
why does grenadier and regular loadout are absolutely same?
Grenider just gets more grenades
Is anyone trying to get blown up with me and be confused?
The Grenadier loadout has 6x Nades and 4x Smokes, instead of just 2 of each. So it's a straight up upgrade with no downside. Which is something BM said that they wouldn't do, but did anyway and never bothered to fix it.
lol
I'm going to be in physical pain every time I destroy a German OP now
Did you like the trailer
How's it going guys! New to the server. Figured I say what's up.
Man, it could use some work. The voice acting is pretty bad. The footage is also pretty bad. Should've just used in game footage.
I am not fan of clans but would like to play with some chill mature people in EU
If you don't feel like joining a community, just try playing on a community server and request to join a squad that has a number of community members in it. That should generally be a good sign that they are like-minded. But ultimately there's very little that sets apart a group of regular players and a community/clan. So if you're looking for a more regular group of players to play with, try out a few servers, get to meet a few players, and see which group fits you.
Yeah I guess so
Yeah, in every clan/community i've been in we've always had regulars who'd play with us/hang out in discord but never actually joined the group... they just wanted some good people to play with and we were happy to have them around.
Also most big group/clan/community servers have regulars that are experienced + have mics (compared to let's say, the official servers)... just keep moving around till you find people you vibe with.
I dont know how they havent ban my name yet xd
kind of dumb imo, the levelling system in this game has always irked me
guys... whats happening
with what?
ye, mee too
if Im SL, standing right behind an enemy tank, and I hear my AT guy say "I dont have satchel unlocked yet" one more time im going to have an aneurysm
how are you meant to level up sniper if kills dont yield xp
@vernal vale you still here? Compromised account this time around
Wake up babe, HLL Corporate Apology Letter has dropped.
Just watched the Trailer, god damn… I thought y’all were overreacting
Leveling classes is such a drag
It has been made by the same AI that made the voice over to the trailer as well.
That genuinely looked fan made, disrespectful to Fans still
Chill out. Not everybody has 2.000 hours to spend on a video game. Some people have actual jobs or schools to attend to
@everyone Have you seen the telegram?
i dont think you understand my point im complaining about the levelling system, not that a specific player didn't unlock the item
Standard corpo apology, Let’s Not attack wombat about it tho, I’ve seen some people pinning it on her
how can i get perrmision to write on #1097866142028152944 ?
Fair enough
you shouldn't have to grind a class for 30 hours just to get the most reliable method of taking out a tank
Hold this L t17
The amount of time it takes to unlock satchel for AT is rage inducing
take the trailer down
Don’t forget guys, we need to build the garrison before we take the op.
Granted, i only have like 115 hours in the game. But just finding an NA server that you can even wait in queue for starts the frustration train before i even hop in a game
what's going on here brah
i have actual jobs but still managed to get to level 500 with 4k7, i played this game before covid is a thing
imagine paying 45 mill for an IP and then hiring a lobotomized monkey to make the trailer
I think a lobotomized monkey would excel compared to this. 
h
I'm sorry I criticized the trailer
How bad is the slow mode here
https://steamcharts.com/app/686810#1y
long time ago that they fell below 9000. AND: Just consider all the new players. Then you know where this game is going
Why roadmap video had good looking Brecourt map, but devs decided to make trailer in gmod?
Mess hall 10 minute slow mode now😂😂😂
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lmao hell let loose slowly becoming a joke at this point
I don't understand why the negative attention towards HLL
actually kinda cool they have a audie murpher badge
i visited the guys actual grave not to long ago in arlington
dawg wdym the player rates be going 🆙
Have you been playing this past few weeks?
lmfao
You know why
But seriously though, did they make an intern create the trailer against his will or something?
For real. I honestly want to see if we can take snipets of the video (for those that can't be remade in game) and use in game footage to capture the rest and make it better
It's out there now, people have seen it and the damage is done.
Oh yeah, I'd just love to, out of absolute spite and big D energy, remake it and make it better
I like to imagine someone pissed off enough and fueled with spite to recreate an actual U15 trailer.
I'm curious on how to get the models into a 3D modeler to remake the scenes
Not the past few weeks, why?
Apparently parachuting in Hell Let Loose won’t come since it’s “not possible in this engine” even though Post Scriptum is in the same engine and you can parachute in it lmao.
When did Post Scriptum port from OWI core to UE4?
Thanks, TIL. Edit: always was on UE4 (since that's what Squad used)
Which I don’t know about you, but it tells me that Team17 lied and are lazy but that’s just me.
it's been like 4 days and I still can't wrap my brain around how bad the trailer was
lmao they took it down now
Game looks sick on IOS idk why they had to release an apology
Reminds me of this
🤣
tbh i think this is better
What is this
official post on their website.
ye xd
more grenades but usually weaker main weapon, at least for the germans, wouldn't play the K right now.
I think for the most part it's preference. For Germans NCO kit is definitely less powerful than the previous Loadout, G43 is just as hard-hitting as bolties and can rip enemies apart at all ranges, so leave the extra grenades behind.
US NCO kit is a necessity, the Garand is a perfect all-rounder and so long as you use it well it will give you better results than the Thomspon. But the choice is nice.
I still can’t believe they used sfm for their trailer
oh wow... the floating arms were discussed already... now i just wondered why the guy right next to the commander is missing his head... its just the other guys twin and both are looking down... jeez
even the trees are copy-pasted assets... its getting worse as longer i look
Whelp see y'all when this game gets better (if it does), if they're lazy with trailers then their updates will follow suit.
they deleted the trailer?
yea they did I just saw that
for anyone who didnt get a chance to see the trailer before team17 took off their website and youtube
Me when my favourite game is now scheiße.
Just a cutscene in a crappy trailer. Def isn’t how the game looks.
Team 17 is killing the hll
thats the problem people are like "the game looks good" stop focusing on graphics and have some standards about gameplay my guy
Team 17 is making a terrible arcade game like call of duty
Official servers only in South America, there's no community servers there
wow, nice, I'm Brazilian, and a few month's ago a bought the game, but I need to un-bought (sorry for my english, I don't have time to practice)
and, I will buy but first I just want to know if the game has server's in brazil
thanks bud
Refund or return = un-bought
You can search servers by region on battlemetrics.com
I'm aware of one Brazil community I don't know where their server is hosted though.
is there an onboarding process?
New players guide and other resources are pinned in here, unless you mean something else
id:customize Should give you the Channel and Role Options. 
the moment I knew Team17 was going to destroy this game
I called it a year ago but I cant find my other messages about it odd
Where do I find people who actually play and talk? I joined a regiment and nobody was actively playing in there much
Best suggestion would be to simply find another group, they’ll be your best bet to find active players 🙂
Any suggestions? I find people who talk in game sometimes but I feel it’s so hit or miss and if we start to lose they just quit
None that come to mind, but take a look through #console-divisions-recruitment 🙂
I just saw I had to enable PC recruitment, appreciate it boss
Is there any way I can get ahold of an admin asap? it's urgent
Feel free to shoot me a message if you haven't had anyone reach out yet.
is the game down
.
.
it says no servers found even after I changed my thing from auto 5000 to 3000
Are you sure you aren't on the Test Client by chance?
lol thats exaclty what is was. thank you
It's an honest mistake. 
cant find any server while in game 😦
is there any bug with the game servers today? i was perfectly able to see all servers a few hours ago
now i only see 0 players servers and i already double check boxes of the servers
Yo
Glad to hear the Boys helped you out. 🙂
Hey Man, Hows it going?
Good bro you
I'm Great thanks man, What u been up to?
Make sure you haven't accidentally started playing the test branch version of the game. I remember having a whole hours-long issue with that lol
Hello
Hello! 👋
Hi is there a specific server to ask anyone if they want to squad up?
any idea how many servers I should be seeig in the browser?
Should be heaps. Check your filters, and then head over to #tech-solutions if you've still go issues - something to do with Steam refresh frequency or something (sorry, can't remember off the top of my head)
funny 2 other people today with same issues.
either have 6 or 11 servers and usually 50-60 or more.
New to to the game! Anyone need somw fresh meat to join their unit?
Hey Man, Hows it going?
feel ripped of on pc went into servers to enlist and ther e are no servers popping up no matter what i do waste of money
?
Don't load up the public testing version of the game
@gusty cairn when are T17 going to remove the PTE version of the game from steam?
As stated above, this seems like you're launching the Test Client and not the Live Game.
It's a common mistake.
Good, you?
Even if they don't remove it. Making it not install by default if that's still a thing would be a huge improvement, low hanging fruit QoL fix for years.
hi
Lvl 78 competitive player here...LF a group to join for events/wars. Message me
Play for fun scumbag
its not fun kicking you noobs teeth in
how make graphics better
@gusty cairn all things considered, good dev brief, it’s addressed a lot of the biggest issues we have atm with quality control, reintroducing PTE and mounting bugs. The only thing not mentioned is if there id going to be a possible change in the british loadouts (e.g p14 in almost all roles)? Even just a ‘we’re look at it’ would be satisfactory
Well honestly i dont hold the bad trailer to them they owned up to it and are working to be better thats more then any other studio is doing rn
We're investigating what's possible 🙂
Happy to hear!
They only owned up to it because of the backlash, if we didn’t hold them accountable they won’t change
^
That's like saying the doctor only performed the surgery because you complained about a broken bone.
They literally listened dawg if no one had an issue obviously they wouldn't apologize. Brainless response.
Entirely depends what region you're in. #pc-divisions-recruitment is a start, but the real competitive action occurs in the Seasonal.
But they did regardless
Wich is more than rockstar
They just ruined their gamr by removing 200 vehicles
do you know any clan who take seriouys marking and defenses? I have 3 weeks the game and mostly servers are super arcade
Man, just watching reviews of the new Squad updates makes me really sad about what's happening to HLL
You're not completely wrong, but many of us are very familiar with the evolution of things, starting with early access. A lot of good has been done, but unfortunately the downhill slide has been apparent for a while. Regarding Team 17 specifically, the updates have been more and more broken, with no effort to fix the old issues like the loadout bug. Team 17 bought it a long time ago now....we can forgive a lot during early access and the sudden growth after actual release, but wow, have they (T17) really raced to the bottom since the takeover.
who wants to create an italian squad?
It’s not, what is seen in the trailer is nothing like in the game and the devs have responded well to the criticism of the trailer and the recent handling of the game.
No they haven't. It's standard company response 3. We're sorry followed by thank you for your feedback and a delay to an update so they can do some minor bug fixing and change some of the more recent stupid mistakes. Don't buy the response, wait until something actually happens before singing their praises
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The game hit registration is sooo bad not even a server issue. There is a bug too that is causing full time frame lag but your fps doesnt drop
tbh i hope they gonna make Hell Let Loose, Hell Let Loose again. Cause rn the movement speed is too fast and kind of everything with the community is going downhill
the sprint speed is perfect, i resent that they’re lowering the acceleration even. it’s still the slowest fps out there by quite some margin
bro... hell let loose is supposed to be realistic and hardcore game
the new speed is sh*t, its too fast or atleast tell me why rn HLL community kind of stopped playing HLL
hardcore with realistic maps and factions, yes but it’s not a simulator
the game is supposed to be as realistic as it can be, im going to play HLL when i dont wanna play smth fast as COD
well, simulator game doesnt need having "simulator" in their name
simply untrue, perhaps squad or arma is more your speed?
anyway you literally have an andrew tate quote in your bio: opinion rejected
if ill delete the "-Andrew Tate" you wouldnt even know its from him or is it? ;)
well, ur opinion about the new updates might get rejected by a half of the whole community of HLL 💀 💀 💀
i stubbed my toe - Herb 2023
the bodies under my floorboards talk to me at night
- Joe Biden, 2021
Bruh I legit be walking, running around and just get sniped EVERYTIME. Do I just suck or what
Stay where the friendlies are
Dont stay where the friendlies are, they're blind and encircled
just tried arty for the first time. whats the best way to avoid Team kills?
There's no way to truly avoid it
right. because i was getting punished for TKing by accident
Arty should be used against high concentrations of enemies or otherwise hard-to-kill enemies in key positions such as MGs in a good position. If there's friendlies nearby or looking to push up, try not to fire more than a few shells, wait a bit for them to land, and reevaluate. Otherwise blast away. People will still run into the arty fire anyway because they are impatient or think it may be worth the risk, so you can't ever truly avoid it.
Getting teamkills doesn't necessarily mean you're doing a bad job on arty. And as long as people don't vote "Yes" when asked whether it was intentional or not, you're perfectly fine. (Note that you get the extra respawn time punishment regardless of what people vote)
How do you even shoot with arty? Couldn’t figure it out tbh
Swap to the loader seat and load a shell, then swap back to the gunner seat and click
I meant how to aim properly, unless I’m blind
Put a mark on the map, rotate the gun to face it, insert the distance in an arty calculator app, and adjust the range of the gun accordingly.
Thx boss, I’m new here
You're welcome. Sincerely, someone who's never touched arty before
Bet he is
Also if bf4 had a /\ for the knife then why don’t we have a /\ with the Bren.
What is a /\
bipod
Oh lol
/|\ as opposed to a tripod of course
Or a pod |
What about a pd '
T17 when
Need mine dogs
Are you saying “yes” and “no” actually do something, trigger events on PC? On console these are useless placeholders lol.
Why...would we need that
Only when people vote yes will it contribute to you potentially being kicked for excessive teamkilling.
if the correct weapons aren't switched for the brits by update 16 i'm quiting for good
Because we need more /\
Useless
Oh God what will we do without you
go very slow if your in enemy line, chances are their just prone waiting for heads to pop up
As if that war isn't a proxy war.
New player here. How can I get the extended magazine of the M1 Garand shown in the trailer?
👀
yes
Duuuuudeeee...
does it means that no77 grenade can kill you if you get inside of a smoke screen?
It's white phosphorus, no? That would cause skin burns and irritation to the eyes, but shouldn't really kill anyone. At most disable them.
watch We Were Soldiers if you think white phosphorus cant kill. Stuff is as bad as it gets dude.
White phospherous is toxic to inhale - it can permanently damage your lungs and resperatory system if you inhale it enough
It also burns at 800 C.
Always thought that we should have willy petes in HLL. Maybe one day.
I seriously hope people are intelligent enough to not click this link
🙏
tbh i love the community how it want to be so accurate about the realism and that
thats dumb
what server was this lol
looking to join a team from NA
Take a look through #pc-divisions-recruitment if you haven't 🙂
damn ...
do typically see peak population with updates and then a recession. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
but no doubt it looks bad here. you zoom in and it doesn't look so grim. last week has been fairly low on population in comparison to launch week. burnout, frustrations with the bugs/trailer.. but i think the patch will bring some people back and make the overall experience more bearable.
Considering the growth Hell Let Loose has experienced over the past few years, I remain hopeful that the current condition is not permanent. However, I personally have also stopped playing as I currently lack motivation.
The recent insights shared in the #1098158460463480842 channel regarding the game's poor optimization have had a significant impact on me. While I hold onto some hope for improvements with the upcoming Thursday patch, I remain skeptical about whether the main problems will be resolved in the near future.
Still praying one day for a Pacific update
Still praying the game will be fixed one day
I’d say it’s about the same chances as my prayers
hey can someone jump into the bob the builders server so i can switch to support please!!!!
Is it even worth buying right now? I’ve heard the game has declined rapidly
is it normal that i cant see most of the channels in here anymore? I'm aware of the restructure, but even then
Game's fantastic, ignore the pissbabies
Join a clan/group for the best experience, most consistent way to get a squad that will communicate and work together efficiently, playing with randoms can be a gamble sometimes
Still fun
They have massively reduced the number of channels which is nice. Check channels and roles at the top of the channels list first.
Ah yeah, I checked and had the mess hall unchecked somehow
You might still get some enjoyment out of it, but the game has been stale for me for a while. For a long time, I was only playing due to the friends Ive made while playing, even though I didn't enjoy the game itself and only enjoyed playing with them.
I definitely got my money's worth out of the game (1,737 hours).
I would say that the game has declined a bit, compared to what it used to be, but it should still be enjoyable for someone starting out
What y'all gotta say about the new update from Team17
+rep!
You are going to DIE!
This is cursed 💀
Well,
If we were to compare Hell Let Loose to an older car with engine problems, constant stuttering, and laps, there are some individuals who may find it satisfactory that the car simply gets them from point A to point B without any further expectations. They might even consider it "fantastic."
However, there are others who find the driving experience frustrating and take the initiative to report these issues to the car manufacturer. Instead of addressing the engine problems, the manufacturer's response is to add more unnecessary features to the car, potentially exacerbating the instability of the engine. The manufacturer has acknowledged these facts and made promises to rectify the issues, but with each inspection, more features are introduced.
It appears that there are two distinct groups within this community. There are those, like yourself, who enjoy the addition of shiny new features to their car and are content as long as it serves its basic purpose.
On the other hand, there are individuals who prioritize not only the basic functionality but also the quality, comfort, and smooth performance of the car. For this reason, they have chosen to stop driving it, which is a reasonable response for many.
I see HLL more like a car series
A Honda Civic from the 1980s is a solid car, but you also still expect the 2023 to be a massive improvement over it
I'm not reading all that + flamethrower go fwooosh
Whats wrong w it, i havent bought it yet but apart from the trailers and how bad the british is whats wrong w the game
Even with an older car, you can still expect it to run smoothly. Yes, several checkups are usually necessary, but if the individuals who lay their hands on the car know their craft, it will run nearly as well as it did on the first day.
Some brands have earned a reputation for manufacturing engines that are virtually unbreakable, like german Opel. Occasionally, the transmission may experience issues, but the engine itself continues to run fine even after 20 years, with the exception of normal wearing parts.
But HLL reminds me more of an older Fiat or Renault, which are known to have reliability issues and require a lot of maintenance. But people like SoupSpitter would still drive them and describe it as a "fantastic" driving experience.
oh yeah, which is why i mentioned how the civic of the 80s is still a solid car
I really dont get why theyre keeping that change and also the map interrupting dismantling.
It can't be to fix the bug, as surely they can create a check that blocks a dismantle if that player id is already dismantling. Or another way that surely exists to fix the console bug.
Yet for some reason, theyre fixated on deliberately lowering the QoL of the game and refuse to explain why
Because they have no earthly clue what they’re doing. Go look at Team17’s catalogue and try to find a game, from this decade, you recognize that is remotely close to this.
They’re going to keep acting like they know better until it’s too late to recover the playerbase.
They’ll just keep changing things no one asked for and adding more 1 sided maps. Meanwhile kit/nade bug still not fixed and the most recent patch made lag/netcode issues worse due to increased movement speed.
Games already gone man. Nothing we can do now. These guys look at this as a cash cow.
Do they have openings for a chief vision officer or something? I have a child that would like to earn some money this summer.
That is an incredibly disappointing choice if it's on purpose.
"Hope this Helps." lmfao
Yeah it’d probably help if the HLL “community contributors” didn’t lie to them and say all these changes are for the betterment of the game. And if they sincerely think that, then they’re just as lost as T17 is.
Movement speed isnt whats making lag/netcode issues worse, when we had this movement speed back before U8, there werent issues.
The causes of increased lag/netcode issues are the analytics put onto the servers, (lack of) optimization of the maps, GSP's putting too many servers on not high enough hardware and T17 not desiging the game to match that reality, and all the changes on each map to address LOD issues, which increases performance drain on the servers.
Loadout bug will never be fixed at this point, and theyve made a business decision to not actually implement an alternative that would eliminate it (like removing the level lock for loadouts). And the grenade bug is due to connection issues as you throw it, so that never going to get fixed either.
Also, BM released 1 sided maps as well (and both Driel and El Alamein were made by BM)
Though T17 definitely doesnt understand the game, as shown by the decisions that theyve made
I've already stopped playing, as the game hasnt been enjoyable for a long time, and the only reason I kept playing was due to the friends I played with
I doubt T17 will change course and make improvements, but the game has been on this course for a long time
It is on purpose
Why, because they want people to slow down in a realistic manner, like when people check their map? Because there's some bug in the always buggy UI that necessiates something like this? Because some people get confused when they open a map and still keep going because they forgot to let go of the W key?
why are the bells and whistles making the sounds they make around me
As far as I can tell, they claimed the scoreboard and map "fixes" were done to address the console dismantling issue.
After the community said these were terrible changes, they've seemed to figure out how to only cancel dismantling when the map is open, and so are saying they'll allow the other actions.
But Im guessing that they don't understand how to allow actions with the scoreboard but still break dismantling and so are breaking everything to "fix" the console dismantle bug.
And all of this is happening because they cant figure out how to actually fix the dismantle bug
which Im sure they could tell the server to check the IDs of the people dismantling, and block dismantles from an ID that is currently dismantling, but apparently T17 refuses to figure that out. And unless they give us a reason why, that seems the most likely answer to me
are you telling me that we suffer because of console
From what T17 have said about this, yes
I don’t think player positioning updating more frequently has a benefit to the netcode, so I’ll stick with my original assessment. We are all well aware of the server issues. Adding increased speed to anything will just make that issue worse, and in my experience, it has been. Lag has been an exponential issue since I started playing the game over 2 years ago. It’s worse after last patch… again. I have a symmetrical gigabit connection and it is very stable, so the connection issues are generally not on my end. (Inb4 people say it’s me).
T17 may not have designed the 1 sided maps, but they inherited them. Instead of trying to balance them, or fix current bugs we’ve been experiencing, they decide to remove functionality from the game that had no ill-effect on anyone. We’ve heard nothing on balancing. Panthers are still broken. Pretty sure fixing a reload speed isn’t a huge deal.
This isn’t going to be the end of it either and their obvious lack of empathy towards the playerbase isn’t going to help anything. You were right to quit. Unfortunately, I am a competitive player and I’m still riding this thing out until the wheels eventually fall off or we find a new game to migrate to.
At this point it’s just inexcusable. They would have known about the issues of the current game state in the handoff with BM.
Catering to consoles will kill another game with massive potential.
Knowing the other issues that have massively affected server performance (analytics being the key issue) and how GSPs put multiple servers on the same box, player run speed isnt whats causing the issue.
I say this as both someone who admined servers and someone who works with networking as a career.
I never said T17 isnt responsible for keeping the imbalances that BM created, they definitely are
I was in comp too, but it got to the point where I stopped doing that as well, and I have to say that was one of the better decisions I made
I’ve been a sysadmin for the better part of my career as well with a pretty good grasp on networking. Agree to disagree. Neither of us would be able to prove it so let’s just leave it there.
I will again restate, AFTER LAST PATCH, the lag issues have been exponentially worse. As well as the 100+ people on my team.
Analytics are surely partially to blame.
"It's intended"
Okay, but what is the reason it's intended?
"...."
I havent really noticed anything with lag. Even after switching to a 4G from ADSL. And I usually play on american servers, from Europe. (maybe I just got positive dementia)
Yes they undoubtedly are. But they’re not solely responsible. There is a huge conflicting stack of issues.
The fact we’re even debating this is a huge red flag.
Because in my experience it got much worse post U13.5 when they added those.
Yeah, theyre changing too many things that affect server performance, client performance, and netcode all at once
They know that they dont have a reason that the playerbase will find acceptable, and so they're hiding behind just saying that "It's intended".
Im sure theyre trying to wait till people have forgotten about it and accepted it as the new normal, and when they wont be questioned about it anymore
Doesn't it stop movement with the map now too?
The scoreboard does, but the map doesnt, iirc
Even their fixes seem haphazard. None of it seems intentional.
Like, doesn't seem like they are controlling the bugs, rather the bugs are controlling what they do and they just word it accordingly.
Oh, this thing we can't fix? Yeah, it's intentional!
What I really want to know is their reasoning behind it. Why something like this would be deliberate for the scoreboard but not a map.
Why does a scoreboard warrant this "intentional" choice
Yeah, Id love to see their reasoning behind these decisions, though Ive already detailed what my guesses on their reasons are
its the most infruiating thing ever.
I had to check again just to make sure, the map doesn't stop foot movement.
Losing my gear in a tank really grinds my gears tho, hohoho
If you can't fix the exploit without this change then I don't like it but I accept it, just say so.
Is hll fun even if your friends play it and just solo queue?
When playing squad lead on console, is there a way to quickly mute different chat channels?
I’m new
What on earth is this nonsense....
Lol competitive HLL 😂😂😂
comp is the only reason to play this game now
I was at least hoping it would be PC. But seriously ? Competitive console HLL 😂 that’s just comedic. The game isn’t built or supported for any sort of competitive. And with the way most of these clans are built console side it’s a massive pathetic attempt.
so, i am on pc (just played in seasonal semi finals) but also help organise a console tournament. you’re right, the game isn’t built that way and t17 clearly only care about roleplayers but the demand is there and the teams move heaven and earth to make it happen
Never heard of the comp scene just a bunch of whiny clans on Facebook tbh 😂
well i mean, obviously a facebook group is going to be shite isn’t it. horrible platform
I guess. Can’t be any more toxic then this community at the moment
Anyone got a squad I could join I’m new to the game