mess-hall

[worthy charm]

She is still the ** G O A T** without being the HLL CM

[azure heath]

If we could have both Ben and Wombat we'd be golden.

[novel geyser]

because they blended her in the wombat blender

[worthy charm]

NOOOOO 😭

[faint portal]

still cant believe she got her dream job working for baldurs gate
actually insane

[fluid pawn]

At least one of you likes me being around here. Thanks smoggles 🥹

[fluid pawn]

They better not create a Ben Blender (the B doesn't stand for Blender, so I'm in trouble if they do)

[novel geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/anton-chigurh-no-country-for-old-men-ok-oops-javier-bardem-gif-10579690

I hear from a reliable source you might be spared if you do more Juno reveals

[fluid pawn]

Tbf, I've just been informed of the Juno testing date 👀 Will share soon

[novel geyser]

👀

[cosmic pilot]

Bottom of the grape vine ahh announcement

[worthy charm]

She is at a better place now... 🥺

[gentle lintel]

Canada Day

July 1st iykyk

[azure heath]

could also be D-day

[thin lotus]

Is this the 2 map / year quota already

[analog dove]

what are yalls opinion on planes in HLL v

[worthy charm]

2 map per year quota is sadly not happening this year

Because they are doing 3 maps

[finite berry]

Bad

https://tenor.com/view/president-obama-kick-youre-welcome-door-gif-5470197

[last orbit]

my hll doesn't wanna start

[analog dove]

well tanks are quite annoying and theres barely enough ways to blow them up so napalm would be fun

[finite berry]

You mean player-controlled planes?

[analog dove]

yeah

[finite berry]

Nope, terrible idea for gameplay and balancing reasons

[finite berry]

Unpopular opinion, but if you have no means of fighting a tank, don't engage it

[analog dove]

well the vietnamese can have hidey holes and accurate traps used in vietnam

[worthy charm]

https://klipy.com/gifs/whhyyyy-vanish

Me in my tonk when they add a Cobra with rockets

[analog dove]

picture it tho ur team is losing severely then a slight grumble of a ferocious fighter seeking revenge drops fire elephants in the trees and u yell in pride and aw that a teamate just dropped a lil sun on the vietnamese

[finite berry]

nah

[analog dove]

and anti air would be peal

peak

[finite berry]

I prefer a decent gameplay loop, balance and technical "doability" over "omg that's so cool" moments on TikTok brain level, no offence

[oak current]

somehow, every time I see someone speak about HLLV, they speak from the POV of playing as the Americans..but never/rarely fighting them

will be interesting to fight helis in the sky

while hiding in the jungle, shooting through the foliage

[arctic rampart]

I think the helis will be a joke

[finite berry]

^^ yep

[oak current]

can you rephrase it in a knockknock one?

[finite berry]

The US helicopters had extreme losses in Vietnam for a reason

[analog dove]

okay right but the planes cost a load of supplys and theres a certain amount of time u can fly them

[finite berry]

Nah

[analog dove]

like a minute to 30 secs

[finite berry]

Planes are just not a good idea, mate

[analog dove]

explain why

[finite berry]

Plus, I can already picture how they'll get played

spawns in a plane
begins bombing run
drops bombs
starts strafing
rams into the ground

[arctic rampart]

I mean even in the trailer, the god damn foliage is loading in as the heli is flying...

Vast majority of modern games have had trouble dealing with foliage. Shooters especially since it interferes with gameplay in a scale tipping kind of way.
I already am scared on how it'll impact the main gameplay loop of Vietnam, even less so whilst flying. Y'know, cause it's a Jungle and all that

[worthy charm]

Maps are to small
Only the pilot has fun
They probably would be buggy as fuck

Either way helis probably will be usefull, but not as gunships

Helis are gonna be critical for not loosing against the teleporter tunnels of the NVA

[thin lotus]

If infantry’s rounds can penetrate the helis into the players inside , helis it will be very useless

[worthy charm]

:}}

[faint portal]

player controlled planes in HLL assuming the maps are the same size is a horrible idea.
infantry hates armor as is imagine just looking at the spawn menu all game, thats what the gameplay would be like lol

[finite berry]

• maps are too small (like @worthy charm mentioned already)
• either a joke or too strong
• will lead to bs gameplay (source: any Enlisted plane gameplay video)
• technical doability
• planes as commander call-ins work much, much better for this type of game

[faint portal]

that's why they arent doing cobra's either, no attack choppers. Only transport and supply helis

[covert elbow]

No

[finite berry]

Man, plenty of players will be disappointed lol

[analog dove]

planes add an accurate atmosphere and setting unlike the vietnamese they had less firepower but more brains they could have access to underground tunnels and can hide from bombing runs and strafes and so on and the americans can throw lil grenades down there holes

i think it would be cool to see lil F 4s flying about leaving a fiery mess

[arctic rampart]

Just stick to Roblox lil' bro

[covert elbow]

Y’know if you want to talk about planes in Vietnam you should probably move to the Vietnam chat

[arctic rampart]

You can play the jets there

[covert elbow]

Cause this is for HLL:WW2

[finite berry]

That's the thing, your entire reasoning doesn't go beyond "that would be cool"

[analog dove]

Just stick to k-pop demon hunters lil bro

[analog dove]

yeah but itd be interesting tho

[arctic rampart]

????

[faint portal]

there's accuracy, then there's gameplay.

you have to draw the line somewhere. Just because it's accurate that you can sit in an ac130 uncontested in real life and just slaughter people doesnt mean that should be what players have to do in a game where there are spawn points and time limit

[analog dove]

i did not know there was a nam chat

[finite berry]

That's not a reason. That's a desperate "BUT I WANT IT". Flyable planes are NOT a good idea

[finite berry]

You need the respective role

[faint portal]

oh damn i didnt even have nam chat LOL

[covert elbow]

Like Vietnam can have planes for all I care, but it won’t work for WW2

[analog dove]

i js wanted to know ur opinions gng not get beefed 🙏

[covert elbow]

You aren’t a true hel let looser smh

[faint portal]

all g

[covert elbow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1270866053047521350/1492869670246813746/1775934858444.gif

[finite berry]

All good 🫡 I'm just being honest :D

[covert elbow]

We only have strongly worded opinions here, no fun allowed

[faint portal]

ik bro 😢 i havent played since april 4 and that was just for screenshots hahahha

[worthy charm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179085355681595474/1406844456912556052/attachment.gif

[finite berry]

Ngl, had to do a double take whether it was really you who sent that message

[analog dove]

dont need one in the uk got to stick to my edu

[arctic rampart]

This is what I mean regarding foliage:

1. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1036120241366896691/1493314585225334965/image.png?ex=69de8515&is=69dd3395&hm=6734ec374143bfa17c936824468d3ad79b18cc85fe369361a136f7a863c25a7b&
2. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1036120241366896691/1493314632184500244/image.png?ex=69de8520&is=69dd33a0&hm=5321c14675e75b344855ce63a288ebfb0df51a37fae79dd409f6e9f8b87b9924&

[finite berry]

You know, Raz, I know a different game you could play instead 😏

[faint portal]

im in other HLL chats that we talk vietnam so im not very active in this one hahaha

[past veldt]

It won't because people can't shoot infantry moving at 0.5m/s, let alone a helicopter

[covert elbow]

That’s fine I haven’t played regularly since 2024 lmao

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/jonesin-gif-1676551224913426507

[analog dove]

oof thats bad

[arctic rampart]

Watch from here: (linked it with the time) https://youtu.be/5bwfPLwLwQk?t=58

Set speed to a bit slower, so it's easier to see, since they have cuts every 0.001ms

[finite berry]

If you have time, shoot me a message :b

[faint portal]

making a video on a recent interview with HLL V devs rn
some pretty interesting things that i think flew under the radar

[analog dove]

thanks bro

[arctic rampart]

You can see a bunch of bushes and stuff loading in as they're moving.
Now think about it on actual launch in an actual match with actual players and we can imagine it'll be like 10x worse

[worthy charm]

I personally dont interpret to much into these trailer, as they are very mixed with rendered stuff.

[faint portal]

I will, It just may be next month. currently in the process of moving across the country so SUPER busy atm

[arctic rampart]

nw bro ❤️

[finite berry]

It still amuses me how it's called "First Gameplay Reveal Trailer", but just how little gameplay there is

[covert elbow]

Honestly with HLL’s rendering systems it’s going to be interesting to see if you can spot people from helicopters easily

[covert elbow]

You mean T17 lied??? No way…

[analog dove]

tho does anybody know if hhl v will drop late 2026 or like is ts ragebait?

[arctic rampart]

100% it'll be scuffed. 100% everyone that isn't a normie will play on low graphics purely to gain a massive advantage in the grass, bush and leaf departament

[arctic rampart]

We got 0 info really

[analog dove]

sound

[worthy charm]

[finite berry]

Apparently some time in 2026

[worthy charm]

Tho idk anything really

[analog dove]

theyll probs fix things after realease like cyberounk 2077

[covert elbow]

They say sometime 2026 but I have money down for a delayed release

[faint portal]

my guess, sept 2026. PURELY speculation though. I dont know anything more than yall know.
actually i know less b/c i didnt even see Juno playtest happening soon lol

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/boo-gif-19787475173016375

[arctic rampart]

We still have Level of Detail (LoD) issues in the present Hell Let Loose. People here also still turn graphics down to gain an advantage. Can't see it being much different in that game, knowing it'll be a f'ing jungle out of all places

[covert elbow]

Just give me a functional game and spend post launch support on content, not fixing stuff that shouldn’t have made it to live

[finite berry]

I mean, wouldn't that be so bad, actually?

[analog dove]

i wouldnt be surprised if its 2027 summer

[covert elbow]

I think Juno is going to release on June 7th so a playtest soon kinda lines up

[analog dove]

as long as its fun tho and the graphics are decent

[arctic rampart]

Brooo, if we don't get access, but some bozo normies around lvl 50 do, I'll flip

[covert elbow]

Maybe

[arctic rampart]

Shieet, should post a suggestion about just that

[covert elbow]

I’m not holding hope as the more you play HLL the staler it gets and I don’t know if a fresh coat of paint will fix it

[analog dove]

as a level 50 normie as myself i reckon people over level 100 should playtest juno

[arctic rampart]

@worthy charm Moderator HerrWilles who resides in Berlin, Germany.
Can you please enlighten me if I am allowed to post a vietnam related suggestion in the global #1098158460463480842 forum section?

[lilac bear]

Howdy yall!

[finite berry]

Hello!

[covert elbow]

I give you permission

[faint portal]

agreed, makes total sense

[lilac bear]

Anyone a part of a HLL discord community specifically for finding groups of folks that take the game halfway serious & communicate?

[analog dove]

not me bro

[worthy charm]

I hereby inform you that until this day I havent deleted or closed on V suggestion in #1098158460463480842. As long as there isnt a dedicated chat you may use the current one.

[finite berry]

#1343090646168240199 might wanna look for a clan there

[worthy charm]

Except its a question of course then put it in #1407789105768698007

[lilac bear]

sweet! thanks for the info

[analog dove]

look for pc looking for unit

or console

[finite berry]

Are you new to the game?

[lilac bear]

not exactly but im no veteran either. im lvl 51 and ive played a buncha squad lead, support & medic

[finite berry]

Okay, that's nice. In case you are interested, @arctic rampart teaches newbies in VC.

[arctic rampart]

Yes.

[lilac bear]

thats cool! i wouldnt mind to have someone run me a course on how to be a proper engineer.

any time ive tried i feel like im at the wrong place at the wrong time lol

[arctic rampart]

Oh Engies' easy. When do you need me to info dump on you?

Now, sometime later?

[lilac bear]

Lol im not busy rn?

you wanna jump in a VC or just post info here or?

[worthy charm]

@arctic rampart

[arctic rampart]

I was about to sh!tpost in #1098158460463480842 , but yeah. Jump in https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1327771319718383718

GO UPVOTE https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1493318349000671453

[finite berry]

100% factual suggestion, literally impossible to disagree with it ❤️

[arctic rampart]

We need to get Ben on this

[arctic rampart]

Do I have permission to inform the Community Manager on a thing the Community wants?

@fluid pawn halp111!!!

[arctic rampart]

CHECK THISSSS

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-frieren-no-not-nope-gif-5781751025776721420

[analog dove]

guys i need ur opinion

my gf broke up w me today

and i need to know if im in the wrong or not

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/higurashi-sotsu-higurashi-sotsu-rena-rena-ryuugu-gif-16597392338459678763

[analog dove]

we had an argument today because we just had easter and we went in school and she was being dry and usaully she waits for me after lesson and i do the same thing and i tapped her chair in english to start a convo and she told me to go away and i was like okay thats weird but its that time of month and at break and lunch she tells me to go w my friends so im like okay right whatever shes in a mood w me for no reason so i get home ask her why and says she wanted to hang w her friends like okay i get that but she cant expect me to know when and i tell her that and she says but u usually know and im like i cant be good at everything all the time

so she says k

and she doesnt say k shes an okayyy typa girl and im like dont k me this aint going down in a bad way and i try to explain i would like to know b4 hand and she keeps venting that i should know and thats not how that works so she breaks up w me saying i want to work on myself and we can still be friends and im imfamous for not getting with back with my xs and she says that and maybe we can in future

and i send back ten mins later with Have a good time with yourself I hope you u find someone better and they treat u right, dont cry cuz we ended smile bc we happened, and the chances of us being together agian is low, Im sorry we couldnt end better

[wintry thistle]

lock in

[analog dove]

so idk if im in the wrong

[analog dove]

im still happy in life tho i got plenty of friends and i think im in the right soooo yeah idgaf

[past veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-micromanage-gif-20717885

[analog dove]

type shi

im gutted we couldnt last longer but im happy i can do shi and not get judged

[wintry thistle]

Not everything lasts
that's something you need to accept

[analog dove]

yeah i know bro like i said im gutted it happened but it is what it is

im a very accepting person i mourned my mothers death after the first year she aint coming back

life is all about accepting things you might not agree with it but u js have to accept it

[silk igloo]

why break over something that happened in a single day, if it's that easy you can ask her out again tomorrow

[analog dove]

nah if she doesnt change widen ur range

weve also argued hundreds of time b4 hand

[silk igloo]

sounds like you care about each others opinion quite a bit to go for it for hundreds of times

[past vortex]

after all there is plenty of microplastic in fishes... or so they say

[analog dove]

it was a lil exaguration

[analog dove]

I LOVE THAT

[harsh egret]

Sounds like you dodged a bullet. Plenty more of all that to go around. You get used to it.

Eventually you won't even wonder what you did wrong anymore. You'll just know they're crazy and then move on to the next one.

[analog dove]

trust me bro ik i js fall rq

i had like a new gf every month last year 😃

[arctic rampart]

@harsh egret@analog doveSince you two jokers are here. Go upvote https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1493318349000671453

@silk iglooAnd you too

[feral vine]

Wtf did i just read?

They fix the game yet or what

[analog dove]

i dont think so and i need an opinion from some random humans bc my freinds are gonna say im right all the time

[harsh egret]

I won't be involved in or playing HLLV so I don't care. I hope it flops.

[feral vine]

True

[echo karma]

Flops harder than s44

[harsh egret]

Would serve them right after they botched this game and the PR so bad

[feral vine]

Hope it flops harder than Concord

[echo karma]

Highgaurd

T17 go back to worms

[feral vine]

T17 gonna be all ai in 2 years

Look at Ben

[arctic rampart]

Just upvote the post bro, don't need nothing more

[harsh egret]

What do I gain from this transaction

[arctic rampart]

You would provide us, the community, in a reaaaalllly long shot. The chance to say "but we told you so" to T17, if we give valid feedback and they sleep on it.

[harsh egret]

I've been telling them so for 4 years. Basically everything I ever warned about with this game has happened, or is worse than I predicted.

You want my help, here is some advice: stop wasting your time and money.

[arctic rampart]

Welcome to the club, nothing you're gonna say or try and explain now will be new to me or the rest of the usual gang

And you surely ain't gonna start the second coming of christ, so just upvote the post and go play whatever you usually play.

[harsh egret]

Yeah so now I'm nothing but a spectator when it comes to HLL. I watch the crazy feedback during every update and then I go back to Helldivers.

[arctic rampart]

Perfect. Keep doing that. Just do the 2 clicks and be on your way

[echo karma]

Does the last 2 yrs mean nothing to you?

[arctic rampart]

Let me remind you that I joined the Discord in 2021

[glossy echo]

Is 240 hours level 58 good

Or should I quit the game

[slate canopy]

I mean I am just short of level 200 and I am at a little over 1000 hours

[glossy echo]

I don't play much support and hours most is when loading into map

Then I have to load again because of lost connection to host

[north thorn]

i got 130 hours and im level 53...

[glossy echo]

Commander vs solo squad leader

I don't have time to play normally and fun

[north thorn]

eh i dont play commander most the time

[glossy echo]

But you do play more fun and with team

[north thorn]

what

[glossy echo]

You don't play 1 life then you have to go to training or school

Its my experience

[north thorn]

ah k

yea i dont have to leave matches mid game much

-# i do but i dont as much as most the time i play hll in the evening

[glossy echo]

Dude I'm happy for you

[north thorn]

.

[glossy echo]

I have training in evening

Also my ps5 account i have 200 hours and lvl 77

[north thorn]

nice

[glossy echo]

I'm gonna sleep now have a good time

[north thorn]

thx

[heady escarp]

You are too young to be at Discord I believe. Lol

Still, stay strong. There lots of women around this world. You will learn to live w it

[hollow spire]

Sup so whats this channel about?

[gentle lintel]

We do a little jokin, a little playin, but mostly just makin a mess in the messhall

🫰 😎 🫰

[covert elbow]

Don’t forget the jorkin

We meet at 5pm, don’t be late

[gentle lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-up-hold-up-meme-fallout-meme-gif-3737350009659669155

[hollow spire]

Fair enough

[warped nexus]

Someone told me I should report all my game crashes and that they can actually get fixed. Any idea where I could do this?

[slate canopy]

It may be something we can help with? #1271718922734796865

[ember robin]

Is this server ran by the hll devs? Also t17 ruined the game updates are good bug they wont fix any of the major bigs

[slate canopy]

I'm pretty sure there are like no devs in here... or if they are here, they're are hidden.

Only real contact to the T17 team would be Ben as our CM

[pulsar onyx]

whre is the save file for my constomizations and settings

[slate canopy]

Lemme get that info, just a moment.

%localappdata%\HLL\Saved folder

[pulsar onyx]

it says last modified last yea

does that mean its outdated>

?

oh wait nvm

thats only how many files are in it not if the internal files are changed

right? thats how it works

[slate canopy]

#mess-hall message

That's the quote I took it from if you are looking to save them if yours reset.

[pulsar onyx]

thanks man

sorry id didnt see your reply before

[slate canopy]

You're good! 🙂

[sage spoke]

Yo guys why is oce servers so empty

cant find a single game with more than 20 players

[slate canopy]

Becase it's like 9 amish on a Tuesday?

[feral vine]

😂 😂

[sage spoke]

yeah but still

woulda thought at least some ppl would be on since its still holidays

[slate canopy]

🤷‍♀️ No clue.

If it's holiday, then could be people doing other things besides gaming

[azure heath]

https://klipy.com/gifs/amish-paradise-5

[forest kindle]

When’s Juno come out?

[covert elbow]

Your moms birthday

[worthy charm]

So late?

Damn...

[wooden hull]

hi

everyone

[nova pivot]

Nice, only 2 weeks until it releases

[spice gorge]

[wooden hull]

hello everyone

[spice gorge]

heil oo

[short zealot]

Soon, 1-2 months 😉
Seelow heights is late this year but first is Juno and Canadian troops !

[cyan saddle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/883599930059522071/1300758223757770803/attachment.gif

Happy birthday @oak current

[azure heath]

Lake Balaton is probably first

Before Seelow, not Juno

[nova pivot]

@oak current

Here is your birthday floppa

[glossy echo]

Happy birthday @oak current

[heady hornet]

Happy Birthday @oak current

[azure heath]

Hippy Borthday @oak current

[bleak pagoda]

Hll vietnam release date 12/31/26? saw pre orders on gamestop and a few other places

[worthy charm]

Thats a filler

#base-camp message <- Ben comment about it.

[short zealot]

That’s a random date till T17 announce ! But the pre-orders look ok

16.04.26

[spice gorge]

Happie birthday bratuha @oak current

[glossy echo]

Its an announcement about hllv

I don't think that's release date

#sit-reps

[short zealot]

Only more news , maybe a release date !

[glossy echo]

Probably just gonna show first trailer then say its gonna be released later this year

And then show all the pictures we have seen

[short zealot]

Maybe , we will know soon 😉

[glossy echo]

But I hope we get release date

And actual footage from game

[short zealot]

I think yes , Amazon , Best Buy , game Spot all this shops and others have a pre-order HLLV in the offer ! 39-50€ , on Amazon.de they have a price guarantee ! 39€

[past vortex]

preorders are 8 to 16 months in advance usually

[glossy echo]

https://tenor.com/view/no-noooo-british-cop-screaming-no-despair-crying-gif-14408871079120163442

[worthy charm]

Youre diabolical man

Pure evil xD

[past vortex]

i actually looked and thats the usual timespan

ofc there are outliers

[short zealot]

I want a Digital version , I can pre-order now for 39€ cheap but I don’t want CD , those can be damage and no use after ! Digital is ok !

[worthy charm]

Pre ordering a game before you know the release date sounds like a scam.

Just saying :}

[short zealot]

U know , In DE we have other rights and Laws ! Is not like other country’s U buy something and U can’t return back or refund !

[past vortex]

sometimes there are reasons
not often tho

• sometimes physical copies sell out
• there is preload for those who still use telephone modems :}

[worthy charm]

Suuuuuure

[past vortex]

you are from russia tho

[worthy charm]

Wtf is a modem

[past vortex]

what

modulator/demodulator

[short zealot]

No , I’m Romanian !

[past vortex]

sure kedo

[short zealot]

Ce?

Nu te înțeleg.

[past vortex]

m-ai auzit

[short zealot]

Nu te aud , pot doar să citesc !

🤪

[short zealot]

Yes , if the hype is big this can be !

I still think on BF6 , they claim to sell 7mil copies but only on Steam are 50k active ! Lets say same are on PS, Xbox, EA ,Epic, etc , that’s some 300k-400k maybe , servers are full with bots ! Where tF are the rest 6.500.000 copies / players ?????

[finite berry]

They don't play anymore?

[worthy charm]

Where are the S44 players?

[finite berry]

They don't play anymore either except for the usual 200 folks

[cosmic pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/big-oof-size-small-medium-switch-gif-9768115684448299797

[feral vine]

Well you see, bf6 is a bad game and dice is really incompetent so most people probably stopped playing it

[azure heath]

tf are u saying?

speaking*

gotta be dutch

[finite berry]

That's not Dutch lol

[azure heath]

If I used context clues I would've understood that it was Romanian

[nova pivot]

Literally kedo

[finite berry]

lol

[oak current]

up to 400-500 folk sometimes!

[worthy charm]

500?!?!

Holy moly

[oak current]

dont you worry, zis will all change when ze new game, Squad Let Loose 44 will be revealed

a HLL SQ44 hybrid!

[worthy charm]

HLL44 when?

[oak current]

and yes, the luchs will be the most nerfed tank you have EVER seen!

it will be glorious

[worthy charm]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

YOU MONSTER

[oak current]

[worthy charm]

Im getting teased way to much today

Its so rude

[oak current]

only for the luchs, one player PER vehicle track - so they need to press W at the same time to go forward

and if they want to turn, one presses W and the other S

I do tease the willes too much

[slate canopy]

Happy Birf.

[worthy charm]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ofmd-our-flag-means-death-39

[echo karma]

Whats funny you could combine s44 and hll and still not touch arma reforger numbers

[oak current]

that being said, I wouldnt mind seeing the Luchs get some love as well

at this point, just to make lil willes happy

[worthy charm]

https://klipy.com/gifs/fire-elmo-whahahah

[past vortex]

but only if thats balanced by giving 4 rockets to ATs

[echo karma]

8 rpgs

[past vortex]

16 even

[worthy charm]

32 and a handheld V2

[past vortex]

they could add horses to carry the extra rockets

[worthy charm]

Give the horse the feature to explode on impact with tanks

[past vortex]

nice

[echo karma]

So a luchs?

[warped nexus]

I want all the haters to know that I reported my problem to HLL Support and they fixed my crashing issue. They replied to me and their advice worked 👍

[feral vine]

Sure they did

[covert elbow]

I should get a free copy of HLL so I can participate in the play test

[echo karma]

Just buy hllv to be a playtester

[cedar ore]

juno looks cool

just hope its not another omaha

[echo karma]

The irony

[feral vine]

Dont do it

[echo karma]

I wanna see a churchhill roll off the beach

Juno looks meh tbf. Only seen the one screenshot. Looks like they on ps5 dev kit

[worthy charm]

So it looks like something from a PS5?

Thats a improvement

a huge one

[echo karma]

No it does however look like a ps2 sc of medal of honor

Or negative graphic settings on pc

Lemme guess the fps is 10

[modern fulcrum]

Juno using the British faction or are we getting a Canadian one?

[cyan saddle]

Canadian 🙂

[slate canopy]

First peepers at the Canadians next experimental branch? 👀 👀 👀

[nova pivot]

I love ur bio

[modern fulcrum]

lol thx

Ooo let’s go so excited for them

[gentle lintel]

i think i won

[glad parrot]

What was the fix? To clear your MAC address? 😂

[feral vine]

[cedar ore]

i still think it looks like a visually good map, buts its not about visuals

[hazy owl]

The Level 1 bug is super common since the last update. I hope it's at the top of their list

[echo karma]

You got jokes huh

[hazy owl]

It was uncommon before the update. I see it every game now.

[past vortex]

what list

[hazy owl]

I don't know there must be some TODO list somewhere in their studio

[past vortex]

🤔

[hazy owl]

There are countless players experiencing Level 1 Bug each day locking them from all their loadouts.
The artillery reloading gets stuck time to time.
I don't want to hear about some Juno with British units dressed as Canadians or Conquest v2...
Who cares if you cannot play the game 😄

My config and loadout settings got reset 3x in the past 2 months.. what a joy!

[past vortex]

dont forget how bad the scoreboard is

[arctic rampart]

Go upvote: https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1493318349000671453

@hazy owl You're a regular. Go do it

@past vortex You too

[spice shuttle]

Anyone feel the visor cap for the tank commander should have pink piping and a headset?

[real parrot]

I hate Vietnam btw

[echo karma]

I like trees

[hazy owl]

I am not so sure about that because Vietnam will be completely different game.
It will be like comparing Battlefield 4 to Battlefield V or Battlefield 1. All good games but very different.

[echo karma]

Ue5 slop destined to fail

[spice shuttle]

Battlefield 1 and 5 have stupidly bad inaccuracies, surely the same company will do the same thing again

Same with hell let loose

[hazy owl]

O-M-G please don't tell me you're talking about historical inaccuracies

[spice shuttle]

Talking about mistakes

Maybe i'm using battlefields historical inaccuracies as an example

[hazy owl]

Do you want a good game that is fun to play with few bugs or historically accurate game?

[past veldt]

If they use the wrong type of bird song again 😠

[spice shuttle]

Both would be preferable

Shouldn't have to choose

[past veldt]

You'll get neither bug free nor historically accurate, and you'll like it

[hazy owl]

Yeah but it feels like there are 7 people working on the game so I will opt-in for playability

[spice shuttle]

Wouldn't be surprised

[echo karma]

Last I checked the v dev team was like 60 ish. They subsidies thereselve to develop the other game

Can follow the money on Britian.gov to get a hint

[hazy owl]

v dev meaning HLL:V dev team?

[echo karma]

Yeah it's still expression games but like a part of them. The owner owns like 3 businesses

[worthy charm]

Thats more people than on the average <10 year old MMO.

:}

[echo karma]

Its all public info so can look it up

[hazy owl]

When you check the credits for HLL there are like 9 devs in total and a million of QA people

[echo karma]

I don't check the credits. Follow the money

[glossy echo]

Should I play stretched to get better fps

Like 1440x1080

Or should I stay at 1920x1080p

Can someone tell if its better fps with stretched

[echo karma]

Just use a magnifying glass

[hazy owl]

Let's just agree that the changes they made for the past few years were not for the veterans of the game but for the potential new buyers. We are merely a herd of sheep that keep the servers up so these new players have somewhere to join and play. They don't care for what the people with thousands of hours have to say. Juno is a cheap way to introduce a new nation to the game as loadouts and gameplay will be very similar to British forces. Conquest is just a testing ground for HLL:V. I don't think that Conquest will even exceed Offensive mode in popularity. It's going to be just another quick cash grab since they can market a brand new Map, Faction and Game mode at the same time. The gaming experience will not change at all.

[glossy echo]

Frames per seconds

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-hunchback-turn-cukurukuk-gif-15693050314819858264

I already play like this dw

[echo karma]

Just don't buy dlc or play this game then

[glossy echo]

I'm just wondering how to get better fps

[azure heath]

Hey, who gives 'em a majority of the money?

[hazy owl]

There is a housing crisis.. Just stop breathing then 😄

[echo karma]

Nobody asked for skirmish either and you seen the reception

[azure heath]

Who cares about us? Just like you said, we're pawns to their money making success.

[echo karma]

And slick tried us too. Saying we had to buy a whole new server to run skirmish

[hazy owl]

Who keeps the game alive so they can keep selling it? Nobody is going to buy a live service games with empty servers...

[echo karma]

Casuals at this point

Only sees growth in December

[azure heath]

Yep, we're the only reason this game does so well. We give 'em the moments, the media, and the coverage they need to sell.

Most importantly the playerbase. 😅

[hazy owl]

I suggested in HLL Server owner Discord to halt all our servers over the Christmas holidays...

[glossy echo]

Can you get higher fps with stretched resolution

[azure heath]

Why would I know?

[echo karma]

I'm just here to watch t17 crash and burn. Majority left the game about 2ish yrs ago

[azure heath]

It'll be less demanding on your GPU. However, your CPU will be doing the same work.

[azure heath]

I don't think this is entirely true. I want to see success but they have to reciprocate on it.

[hazy owl]

Same but I am ready for its slow death

[azure heath]

Which you can tell they're trying more than in the past, but not good enough.

[echo karma]

Bm was the same way tbf. T17 just won't listen to the community at all

Surprised they Still have a game tbf

[azure heath]

They hit a relatively niche market that there aren't many competitors in. Especially for console.

[echo karma]

Its like they have no managers up there at all

They change the dumbest sht ever and say we did done something. Must be bungie lol

[azure heath]

Marathon's good

[echo karma]

Reforger dwarfs this game too

Like actually mod packs bigger than hll lol

[azure heath]

Bohemia is doing a great job afaik

[covert elbow]

Consoles probably what’s keeping it afloat

I know the only reason I play is because it’s the only decent WW2 FPS

[azure heath]

It's the only decent WW2 FPS on PC as well. Post Scriptum just doesn't feel good.

There are so many bugs and QOLs that they could easily iron out and implement in this game. But they either refuse to do it or they simply don't put effort into it.

[vestal nimbus]

meo

[echo karma]

Theres a good bit on pc tbf. Almost 20k

For BI that's money

[azure heath]

The subscription services that they're on probably make some decent bank as well.

[arctic rampart]

5 minutes till the next day clocks over. Had to remind everyone to go upvote: https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1493318349000671453

[glossy echo]

I'm the playtester then ig

@hazy owl you've been typing a long time

[hazy owl]

The community figured out how to enjoy and play the game to its fullest introducing comp and comp rules.
Those rules are there for a reason.
I started organising comp like games on Saturdays 2 months ago where also players from our community can join and they all say it's much better than the average public experience.
T17 probably thinks we are all idiots and play the game wrong by limiting the gameplay with comp rules and will not take inspiration from them to change anything.
Two simple adjustments - 1 unkillable arty and destroying nodes is not allowed and what a difference it makes. 🤯
If there was only 1 set of nodes instead of 3 but only providing resources when built in the active sector it would actually make sense to defend them and have a fun at the same time. Not motivating players building them farthest from the fight.
The static artillery could be completely removed and replaced by the artillery strike ability. SPAs could remain but the models need to change so their top is opened and recon can kill the crew but not destroy the vehicle. This would not remove the arty-recon loop but it would improve it as the arty would be usually much closer to where the fight is happening resulting in more support from other players and avoiding players camping the HQ.

[glossy echo]

Oh ok I get it now

Thats why you typed for a few minutes

[covert elbow]

Those don’t make moneys

Why waste dev resources on bugs and ironing out gameplay flaws when getting new maps and DLC brings in the money

[glossy echo]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-comment-above-is-true-even-his-gang-he-made-a-statement-made-a-statement-gif-10147099013761757373

[queen quartz]

What text channel includes updates on HLLV? Trying to stay in the loop if here’s the best place

[glossy echo]

#sit-reps

[covert elbow]

Get the Vietnam role and you’ll see them

[hazy owl]

Get out of here

[glossy echo]

Sry man

[hazy owl]

#base-camp

[warped nexus]

Yep just had to clear my saved data under add-ons and the problem stopped happening

[hazy owl]

Meme of the year so far

❤️

[glad parrot]

Say that again in a few days 😂😂

[worthy charm]

@azure heath Please dont write into the honeypot even if it doesnt work for know.

[echo needle]

Ur welcome

[worthy charm]

Would hate to see you being kicked for no reason 😅

[azure heath]

I've been kicked by Honeypot 4-5 times already, idc lol

[worthy charm]

Just saying

[brittle gust]

Oh wow that's a hell of an 8 year Necro for that message. That's so funny.

[azure heath]

stop

[echo needle]

2018 being 8 years ago 🙃

[wind shore]

yo wsp

[glossy echo]

Hello

[river rover]

ℹ️ **MICROSOFT PATCH TUESDAY!!!**ℹ️
Get those PC's updated. 😉

[echo karma]

Huh

[lost pumice]

to confirm. i cant play the new Canadian stuff if my game is on epic?

[slate canopy]

Steam is the only place for the Experimental Branch

[tall kettle]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE NOW ENDING** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Steam maintenance has now ended but some issues may still remain until a game restart

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[real parrot]

My first thought was to think that was wrong, after all we are in 2020 right¿

[azure heath]

Not the experimental part, but when it fully releases, yeah

if you wanna prep i suggest playing British on Driel

it'll have very similar weaponry

If you're a tanker use a sherman and stuart

[lost pumice]

nah man i just wanna see juno and what the Canadians look like

@azure heath

[haughty solar]

Apartheid is real

[static granite]

So uninstall the game, and go play cod

[past vortex]

*warzone

[echo karma]

Jokes on you, game hasn't been on my ssd in about a year

[normal nexus]

I do wonder if planes were ever added to hll how they’d work or what using them would be like, also wonder if we will ever get things like tiger 2s or Pershings ect

[covert elbow]

Hopefully not

Heavy tanks are a scourge on this game so unless we get an actual meaningful rework and overhaul we need to stay away from those tanks

[finite berry]

Planes are not a good idea for this type of game

And until the armour system is changed significantly, I see absolutely no point in adding new tanks or tank types to begin with

[static granite]

Yet here you still are 😂

[pine ember]

Can you specify why?

[finite berry]

@pine ember

[radiant orbit]

bruh what

[azure heath]

I just won't buy the game if I don't get my Cobra

[finite berry]

Neither will I even if there is a Cobra lol

[blissful ridge]

(Question for the guys that want planes/helis) Instead of everyone saying why its a bad idea to have them. Whats your argument for the planes and helis?

[finite berry]

"it'd be cool"

[cosmic pilot]

I'm confused by the phrasing.
You're asking people who want planes to argue the opposite side?

[blissful ridge]

No, the people that want plans -> to explain why they want them.
Maybe the question is a bit too vague. To specify it more: "How would you implement planes/helis to the game in terms of balance and fun for everyone?"
Air strikes as a commander perk are cool for everyone. 1 guy getting 10x multi kills every 20 sec is not.

[echo karma]

Immersion. Planes can be added, t17 just lazy af

They can't add mortars. Planes and parachutes are never coming

[cosmic pilot]

Why is the wrong question.
The right question which you hinted at is "how does this make the game better as a whole without detracting other parts of the game?"

[echo karma]

At this point I think they lack of few things to add significant content to the game.

[sturdy quarry]

BM said console couldnt have server browser, T17 managed it

after that trailer T17 said UE4 couldnt do paratroopers actually dropping in, despite examples of other games on UE4 having paratroopers

and why wouldnt it be possible, seems like an odd engine limitation

so what any dev says doesnt matter, its just a question of time, effort and £

[echo karma]

I personally loved the idea of parachuting and obj mode from the trailer but was scrapped and they never said why or anything

[worthy charm]

How would you implement planes/helis to the game in terms of balance and fun for everyone?
Its easy really, just do these simply steps:

1. ||Fix all bugs||
2. ||Add more vehicles and weapons||
3. ||Add Italians, Polish and Finish Factions, maybe even pacific||
4. ||Most importantly, think about how to add planes, realise it makes the game worse and then just dont add them. ||

[sturdy quarry]

the trailer game mode wouldnt have had paratroopers dropping in, it would have just been air head / teleporting

[echo karma]

Fix all bugs lol

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/keepmoving-hell-let-loose-takinggermanop-u15-update15-gif-7689767871759833939

[echo karma]

It was a rendered trailer albeit horrible but the concept was good

[echo karma]

Funny mantle is till bugged to this day

Least on console

[cosmic pilot]

Me omw to edge the mods:

[echo karma]

I want that extendo clip fr tho

[finite berry]

Me omw to talk about Squad 44 >:)

[worthy charm]

Brother what

[cosmic pilot]

You know I push the boundaries

[worthy charm]

You are the boundary

[echo karma]

Tell bear I love her

[cosmic pilot]

Planning on leaving?

[sturdy quarry]

what was the good concept?

was the objective mode going to be less players than 100 like the original danzig post office thing?

and then the pointless skirmish mode where randomly it has different grid square sizes and garry distances so you cant even use it as a starter mode to learn the rest of the game?

i still dont understand how a forward position differs from a normal garry

and why didnt they add the yellow circle distance around the garries as a toggelable option to the main game modes as a QOL feature

and then the random spa adding and then changing to spg (a good move, but the original concept was wierd)

to summarise, i dont understand T17 direction or vision, its just random ideas thrown at the wall whilst not fixing long standing bugs

[echo karma]

No but she doesn't particularly like me at all

[cosmic pilot]

That ven diagram is a circle

[echo karma]

I.e. lack of management. Brits only happened cuz it was almost done already

[sturdy quarry]

and then the brit weapons didnt work for years...

[worthy charm]

You will take the vision and you will love it!

[echo karma]

Aint no sense in complaining in here

T17 could care less about feedback. You forget they deleted the pte

They changed sprint speed on a whim bro.

[sturdy quarry]

i was kinda asking what you thought was the good concept from the trailer before i ended up ranting at the wall again 😆

hopefully the "different but same" devs for vietnam have some kind of cohesive vision for the game

[echo karma]

Literally ninja changed it in the patch notes. Like nobody would notice the movement changes

[finite berry]

@covert elbow why did you change it in the patch notes :(

[echo karma]

The objective mode with more cinematic esq spawns off airheads. Lootable guns too

Objective modes makes sense in a team based tactical shooter

I love battlefield operations mode. Peak in bf5. There adding it in bf6 soon I think

You literally jump out a plane to destroy AA flak guns in bf5

Really good in bf1 too

[sturdy quarry]

if we are making fun lists for ben to note

• have eastern front / early war sub factions restricting stg44 /g43 etc similar to desert germans

*add more brit uniforms in line with other factions that have level unlocks etc - but would prefer uniforms locked to maps / war periods instead

[sturdy quarry]

i loved the tnt blow up objective modes they added to day of defeat source, just not enough maps

think there were dev videos of tnt style explosives for hll kicking around

[echo karma]

Yeah they tend to axe stuff and not say anything at all. Kinda annoying

[azure heath]

Planes are no. But Helis are my lifeblood

[echo karma]

Why the heli look so jank brother

That was in game or a render? Cuz that sht was jank

[sturdy quarry]

british snow uniforms but no brit snow maps (they may have been for US snow camo as lent equipment iirc)?

the proper SPA vehicles

danzig

[cosmic pilot]

I've been advocating sub factions for years.

I would even go so far as to make sub factions per map

[blissful ridge]

Both but only for transport is what i see as the best option atm

[novel geyser]

Now who's copying who

Okay tbf I never thought per map subfactions would be necessary but subfactions big yes

[covert elbow]

Funny

[finite berry]

:)

[azure heath]

Yep, and that's why I won't be purchasing the game.

[cosmic pilot]

Dissonance will not be tolerated

[azure heath]

I'll be the Elise of HLLV

[finite berry]

I'll join you 🤝

Elise 1 and Elise 2

But I'm Elise 1

[azure heath]

Terms accepted

[finite berry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/538055883075354637/1451353103554183169/Cat_handshake.jpg?ex=69e0c5a8&is=69df7428&hm=df52f8bd1c69daede4824ab6bf1c4db2866b561c39726e949e7882b586e89786&=&format=webp&width=400&height=350

[stable niche]

I'm curious when the next best of the community will be

[azure heath]

Sorry for the ping, but you are the first person to mention Vietnam. You should get monetary compensation.

[rigid glade]

Hahah

Ahh, back in the Kickstarter days... Corona who?

[azure heath]

You were in here before I was born

i mean got discord

[azure heath]

Back in the good ol' days

You play the game anymore?

[rigid glade]

I haven't for about a year, but should check out the new maps

[steady vessel]

Should play the isle instead. HLL dumb af.

[glossy echo]

Do you have a decent pc

[azure heath]

Okay, you're going to be the hotbed of attention for about an hour, sorry!

But yeah, def recommend. The maps are not too bad.

[rigid glade]

Yeah sorta half decent last upgraded for bf6, just a new gpu

Oh I've followed develop and videos,. just haven't played hll for awhile, been busy.

[glossy echo]

I think you're gonna like the maps then,they're but but perform badly

If you understand

[azure heath]

Completely understandable, I haven't gotten to play in 2026 yet.

Lockai, you don't need to mention him in every message. 😭

[glossy echo]

What should I do?

[azure heath]

Not mention. Just send the message

[glossy echo]

@azure heath what if they look in other chat?

[azure heath]

You do you

[finite berry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/538055883075354637/1494012687670313121/SHUT-meme-7.jpg?ex=69e10f3e&is=69dfbdbe&hm=646f5ad53ff0e6bbc26cf91a9d0a9b5e8d99cf6b5d71113413516142a63891c3&=&format=webp

[glossy echo]

I like fish @azure heath

[glossy echo]

@finite berry its a cool goose

[azure heath]

I don't even know what to do, block him?

[finite berry]

yes

[glossy echo]

Yeah man @finite berry is pretty annoying ngl

OK I'm gonna stop

I have parental controls again

So I can't use any other app

[azure heath]

Learning from the best

https://klipy.com/gifs/things-entering-the-room

[glossy echo]

@azure heath yeah cool gif

@azure heath they dance so similarly! They look the same too, wow the genes to have that

[pine ember]

Ahhhhhh

Yea understandable, matches with my assumptions

[scarlet vault]

what is the icon on the right side of my screen, kinda like screens on top of each other, middile one is hallow with dashes around? cant share screenshots here I guess.

[arctic rampart]

Post it in like #off-topic-mess-hall or something

[past vortex]

packet loss

[scarlet vault]

hmm, whatever that channel is, I have no access it seems

[scarlet vault]

thanks!

[finite berry]

It's offtopic, you have to get the respective role first

id:customize

[cedar ore]

this level bug is out of hand zawg why am i getting it so much

i dont wanna be level 1 :(

[glossy echo]

They will think you're cheating 😄

I think I'm wrong about the bug, never had it yet

[cedar ore]

Nah it’s cause I’m playing level cap servers

So I join and it kicks me for being too low a level

[glossy echo]

Ah that's terrible man, does restarting the game work?

I understand what you mean too

[past vortex]

yea dont even try to join, restart

[glossy echo]

I do that when settings reset to dx12

Its the lvl1 bug for me

Game crashes in dx12

...

[cedar ore]

sometimes just rejoining the server works, sometimes nothing works

completely random

[glossy echo]

OK same for me with dx12

[cedar ore]

cant tell its broken till i join, its different for each server

and ofc its sometimes different each time i join said server too

just a strange one tbh

more inconvenient than anything else

[glossy echo]

Under

Stand

[dusty cobalt]

How much is hll rn with gamepads ultimate

I played when it was free

[slate canopy]

Search and find out?

[rare finch]

What’s up with comms? I swear everyone’s mic is distorted or boosted. Is it there mic? My settings or a game bug

[crude phoenix]

Guys

[covert elbow]

T17 broke comms again. It’ll be fixed (maybe) in like a month

[turbid plaza]

Why is trying to run Arty so dumb now.

U can only use it if u build it yourself?

Resupply after 2 rounds?

This game was great. Was. Why dont u just leave it alone?

[cosmic pilot]

comp

[dry sky]

when are they adding Juno beach

[turbid plaza]

So enhance rcon and allow more freedom to vreate custom games. Dont change an entire fundamental way to use something to appease the comp leagues. Thats makes no sense.

[rigid barn]

Is there something wrong wit hthe servers I see no custom ones?

[past vortex]

prob filters

[worthy charm]

I already used arty guns that I didnt build and it worked fine.

[oak current]

the illuminati

[oak current]

comp doesnt care about it - dont believe every rambling in here
Comp sets up one fixed arty player in HQ for the last few years.

[fringe lance]

HLL pls add trucks and jeeps to discover mode

[heady hornet]

no no. everything is comps fault.

[vale garnet]

It was my fault my team lost in a pub yesterday because I’m a solo SL, specifically me

[hazy owl]

@cosmic pilot @turbid plaza those arty changes have nothing to do with comp at all quite the opposite.. it's to limit random people from spamming arty shells and spending much valuable ammunition points

comp games are what every pub game should strive to look like but comp needed to implement some guardrails so the infantry play is not a complete dog poop.. a skilled player can snipe you or your spawn from a distance, now add 3 tanks crews & artillery.. the meat grind is a pain already... now they throw SPA into the party to cripple the infantry even more being able to snipe your OP from above and one shot Level 3 structures.. can you imagine building a bunker or a barricade for 5 minutes just to be sniped by the SPA.. satchels are overpowered enough and now this..

satchels should be on a cooldown too imo

[cyan saddle]

I don't know where the idea comes from that the default game parameters should be optimized for competitive play. The only games that do this are, well, competitive games. And even they have casual or quick play modes with altered rulesets.

[hazy owl]

I like how BF4 did it.. you had servers with params being acceptable for gaining XP and custom game params with no XP

Essentially saying "These servers are what we meant by BF4 experience" and the other ones we like moded servers

Building structres speed - 5x 😄 - I would like that modified btw

[vale garnet]

Comp games imo are the ultimate way to play, but at like div 3-4 level not the top tier.

When top teams play it honestly gets stale just because everything is so optimised

[past veldt]

Not the competitive boogeyman (who didn't ask for these changes)

[past veldt]

If the match timer for competitive was reduced from 90 to 60 minutes, we'd probably see some more chaos in those higher tier matches. There's just less time to get everything perfect for that final 5 minute rush that teams would be forced in some creative solutions much earlier

[vale garnet]

Yeah but you would have to change the timers for everything too

[cosmic pilot]

They can easily do that now

[cosmic pilot]

Why is it then, that the changes to arty mirror the priorities of how comp wants artillery to be?

Curious

[past veldt]

They don't mirror it at all

If you're going to be a big baby and cry about the boogeyman, at least be correct

[cosmic pilot]

Correct me, for educational purposes.

Even if I don't learn anything others might

Comp wants limited artillery in quantity, as little as 1 gun on the map.
They wanted the gun to be destroyable.
They wanted ammo to be a limited resource.

[past veldt]

The latter two aren't true, apart of our rules, or ever discussed as part of the rules/requests

[cosmic pilot]

What comp wants is separate from the implemented rules

The past rules were a limitation imposed because you didn't have what you wanted

[past veldt]

If anything, having played Commander in a top 2 competitive team for two years, the limited resources is actually a straight negative thing for me

What I absolutely didn't want is another chore, and that is what I got

[past veldt]

Do enlighten me about the discussions competitive teams were having, that I was apart of

[cosmic pilot]

Comp wants as much advantage as it can while denying that advantage to the other team.

The ruleset for comp is in tension with playing the game in as a vanilla state as possible so whatever the ruleset will be really slow to change into the most competitive version of the game.

[past veldt]

It's amazing how you're talking about what comp wants, despite not being in a team, never having played a competitive match, and not being involved in any sort of discussion at all with competitive players

Of course, outside of this particular discussion with me where I'm saying you're wrong

Competitive players didn't ask for reduced ammo counts or more chores.

Guns being destroyed has been discussed and requested by the entire community as a way to stop the terrible recon/arty loop

The reduced gun count was implemented by competitive tournaments already so it's irrelevant that the game itself now limits the guns. We had a really good implementation as it was. The fact that the community and developers looked at the scenes changes and thought they were good is nothing to do with us

[cosmic pilot]

So, you said I didn't know what I was talking about, and then went and confirmed my opinion of the matter.

[past veldt]

If that's what you'd like to believe, sure

[grizzled kiln]

Or, hear me out. Refer to first KS goal. Scrap arty and have mortars 👀

[analog apex]

yes please

[cosmic pilot]

It's not irrelevant.
Arty guns being limited to 1 instance is an inviolable limitation that means the additional rule can be eliminated for the ruleset and no longer needs to be enforced.

That eases the tension between competitive rules and the absence of rules i.e. playing the game vanilla.

It's important because it largely negates the ability to violate the rules giving a team an uncompetitive advantage.

Now, this is mostly in principle if the rule was well observed.

[deft moss]

does anyone have random stutters on PC i have a high end gaming pc but every now and then i get a hiccup or two very often and it can be distracting

[cosmic pilot]

But the principal can extend to other things.

[grizzled kiln]

In comp it will def be observed lol Only one player will be allowed on arty

[grizzled kiln]

Which GPU ? DX11 or DX12 ? If Nvidia, then try DX11

[deft moss]

its a nividia iwill try dx 11 and let you know

[cosmic pilot]

And if you could read, I said that the changes to arty reflects what comp desires

That doesn't mean that somebody specifically asked for it

[deft moss]

seems a little better but still there unfortunately

[grizzled kiln]

Well, the game is poorly optimized. So it's unlikely to ever disappear 100% 😄 For me it's a lot better since I swtiched to Linux some months ago.

[grizzled kiln]

Maybe force it to high perf in nvidia control panel for that game and see

[deft moss]

iwill try to do that

[silk igloo]

Recon used to be limited to 1 squad per team, and you needed 2 teammates near you to build a garrison, so back then recon practically couldn't make garrisons in the rear either. I didn't play alpha though, but we ought to return to that.

[heady hornet]

Are you even aware of the reason, why comp went with the limit to one arty gun? and the discussions we had?

Let me tell you, 3 killable arty guns had the same amount of kills as one unkillable one. You just dropped the amount of prep needed to kill or defend them, (aka rocket snipe, tank snipe and protections for said snipes.

The fact that the devs limited arty guns, has nothing to do with the fact that comp. wanted it, but most likely that the devs wanted people to use the SPAs. In the same way, they reduced movement speed when they introduced trucks.

[past veldt]

Sorry mate, 7Cav Hyrum knows more about competitive tournaments than you

[worthy charm]

Obviously!

[silk igloo]

do we know what goes on in the devs heads

[past veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/txt-empty-venue-soobin-hand-gif-26238334

Sneak preview of where they get their feedback from

[grizzled kiln]

https://giphy.com/gifs/bare-barren-Az1CJ2MEjmsp2

[worthy charm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/363877549534740480/1420452639702782162/a7340d.gif

[oak current]

Bergball

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/462409534401413144/1426186983016763422/a8p1u4.gif

[worthy charm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/462409534401413144/1422281284146696304/a735ao.gif

[past veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/462409534401413144/1420443284874068049/YeetBerg1.gif

[worthy charm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/462409534401413144/1431200877628100730/BasketBergCascade.gif

[heady hornet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/743208741880594534/1479931246237716480/20251019_134154.gif

[vale garnet]

Comp should go back to 3 gun arty and have full squads spending the full 90 minutes playing a rocket sniping minigame because it was sooooo fun

[grizzled kiln]

2 unkillable arty players per gun for the full experience ❤️

[vale garnet]

I would uninstall so fast

[cosmic pilot]

How is it possible, that the devs solidifying an aspect of comp that's been practiced for years has nothing to do with comp?

Take responsibility for your own influence over the damn game.

"the devs never listen to comp" when in fact, the worst changes to the game happened because comp cried about it

[vale garnet]

What?

We went to a single unkillable gun to save everyone time and effort, then adding in SPA wasn’t something we wanted, nor was the gun building part or the dedicated arty squad.

We also didn’t like flares being added while we’re on the topic

[past veldt]

One might say that making the gun able to be destroyed is the opposite of unkillable artillery

[heady hornet]

you cant kill something, that needs to be build first. Therefore it's clearly a comp wish.

[vale garnet]

I wish for gun skins

[heady hornet]

can I use my comp. influence to wish for pink tanks/trucks/jeeps, so they blend in better during dawn and dusk?

[past vortex]

i always thought comp already has that

...via filters

[past veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1320450047002939428/1471943080314667058/attachment.gif

[past veldt]

Imagine reading the sentence fully before crying

Competitive boogeyman strikes again

https://tenor.com/view/where-is-my-free-coffee-gif-25537785

[past vortex]

damn comps, they ruined comp

[vale garnet]

My filters make the game look like a watercolour painting it’s great

[cosmic pilot]

This is why it's extremely difficult to talk with you people. You aren't addressing what I'm saying in the slightest.

[vale garnet]

You aren’t saying anything that merits much of an address

[cosmic pilot]

I am. The decision to some of the changes to arty was to make it more competitive.

[past veldt]

One of your points is that the developers made it so artillery can be destroyed because the competitive tournaments had a rule for unkillable artillery

[cosmic pilot]

And the best you guys can do is "nug uh" and bring up unrelated additions as "we didn't ask for that"

[cosmic pilot]

Yes

[vale garnet]

Absolutely wrong

[cosmic pilot]

The unlikable arty rule does not need to be there anymore

[past veldt]

But we want artillery to be unkillable

[vale garnet]

We had killable arty before it was boring

[cosmic pilot]

Because you are lame

[past veldt]

So how does wanting unkillable artillery mean we want artillery to be killable

[cosmic pilot]

It was boring because the down time on killing the crew was 5 seconds

Now it's five minutes

[cosmic pilot]

Because that rule was born from that arty was unkillable

You made the rule to cover a limitation in the game

That limitation is no longer there, you don't need the rule anymore

But you won't change it because you guys are lame

[vale garnet]

If you think we could only keep arty dead for 5 seconds you’re really underestimating comp players

[past veldt]

You might be the densest person I've ever met, and I taught special needs children for 10 years

[cosmic pilot]

Is it me who's dense

[worthy charm]

You flex on them until they die from embarrassment.

@past veldt One WTH gif please

[past veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179085355681595474/1458122424863428881/attachment.gif

If I didn't fear Polarbear muting me again, I'd post some really good ones

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1284052945037561888/1335718308217094225/attachment.gif

[plush kernel]

Anyone knows why they did not add parachute regiments yet? is there technicality or just a simple NO decision?

[vale garnet]

Okay the reason we want 1 unkillable gun summed up is this:

3 guns suck because 3 good arty players can stop you doing anything to push the mid cap.

This leads to killing that arty being incredibly important.

In turn you then make protecting it equally important.

This means both sides then spend hours and hours preparing ways to kill and protect the arty, and dedicate whole squads of people to doing that during the game instead of actually playing the game.

This is very boring and nobody wants to do it because it burns you out.

Therefore 1 unkillable gun was the best compromise

[cosmic pilot]

Yes, I am aware of the reasons for the rule, and I'm telling you the changes the devs implemented reflect trying to address those shortcomings in the design of the game.

I'm also telling you, if comp erases the unkillable arty rule, they will return a dimension of competitiveness to the game that they self eliminated.

Keeping artillery crew suppressed offers an advantage to the team that can execute it and should be more tolerable now that the gun can be fully destroyed for a significant amount of time.

This means that arty can be denied again offering gameplay for teams to take advantage of it

[heady hornet]

you keep them suppressed by lobbing unstoppable rockets at them for 90 minutes

[cosmic pilot]

If you guys want to keep doing the same boring gameplay over and over again be my guest

[cosmic pilot]

Okay?

This addresses my points how?

[acoustic ravine]

there we go

go back to placing your op in the enemy hq buddy

cmon the jeep is waiting for you in the north hq

beep beep

[dim glen]

I think we should instead have 6 unkillable arty for each side. Instead of infantry engagement, the entire battle consists of lobbing shells at each other

But this way you can also add a Battle Pass for $19.99

[heady hornet]

that destroying the arty is not needed for suppressing the use of the gun.

In your blind hate for comp. you are overlooking the obv. answer that is that the devs decided to reduce the amount of static arty, because they introduced SPAs

[cosmic pilot]

Having arty and nodes be immune is by definition, uncompetitive.
Backline fighting is a significant part of the game that comp is suppressing atm. Even if they have good reasons to do it.

[cosmic pilot]

Destroying the gun means that the resources used to destroy it are freed up to do other things

[acoustic ravine]

yeah you are an inchon alt

[cosmic pilot]

Instead of constantly needing to be committed every five seconds

Like, read what I'm saying

[past vortex]

if you dont have to deal with arty as a recon you can commit to breaking the enemy commanders will full game

[cosmic pilot]

I'm talking about the most basic shi ever

[acoustic ravine]

-inchon

[cosmic pilot]

I don't even know who that is

I've also been in this server for over 5 years

[acoustic ravine]

zest ist tuff

✌️

[cosmic pilot]

Someone fill me in

[rough mulch]

did they give a release date for hll vietnam?

[acoustic ravine]

imagine actually playing an arcade war game instead of playing the war of attrition

wouldnt that be fun

[cosmic pilot]

Imagine not wanting to adapt what you're doing

[arctic rampart]

Reminder to go upvote: https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1493318349000671453

[acoustic ravine]

1v1 me in remagen bridge

lets see if you can "adapt"

[vale garnet]

We could keep the arty dead without having to destroy the gun, it’s totally irrelevant if it’s 3 killable guns or 1 as to what preparation is needed to do it

[cosmic pilot]

Also imagine not exploiting the flaws in the game.

[acoustic ravine]

which flaws?

which exploit

[cosmic pilot]

I know you can do that. I'm agreeing with comp that it's bad design for you to have to do that.

[vale garnet]

Not really bad design we just don’t want to do that part of the game so we don’t

[cosmic pilot]

Having the gun be killable is a better design than having only the crew be killable

[cosmic pilot]

This is retaddddd

[acoustic ravine]

bro you are actually a racist

internet racist

racist towards comp

[cosmic pilot]

Compist

Compophobia

Comphobia?

[acoustic ravine]

what exploits were you talking about earlier?

[cosmic pilot]

Someone post the Nvidia filters and lod exploit speech bubble react image

[acoustic ravine]

well i am not using any exploits nor filters so i dont how is that correlated

[past vortex]

so you are saying just a superior chair and rgb is enough for you

[acoustic ravine]

no just being okay at fps games is enough

not even good just okay

[vale garnet]

Filters are meh, lod is bad game design

[acoustic ravine]

if you dont have a medical condition

this is game is easy asf

[vale garnet]

I think my 2 highest kill games is 1 with filters and 1 without, it doesn’t mean much

[acoustic ravine]

best comp players i know dont use filters

zero advantage its just cope

[vale garnet]

Yeah it’s like a 50/50 split

Maybe slightly more use filters still but recently it’s trended away from them

[plush kernel]

Why are there no paratrooper regiments in the game?

[acoustic ravine]

comp players

[finite berry]

I think there are respective skins

[vale garnet]

There are skins what do you mean

[plush kernel]

What does comp mean in this context?

[finite berry]

Competitive HLL scene

[plush kernel]

@finite berry @vale garnet skins yeah but no chutes... cant jump out of plane

[finite berry]

His answer was not a serious one

[plush kernel]

Ahhhh I see. Game specific racism against competitive players eh? fun

[vale garnet]

Because you would just be target practice for the entire enemy team 😂😂

[finite berry]

Yep. Apparently according to the devs, paradrops can't be done in UE4 (they clearly can)

[plush kernel]

How do the fokin air drops work then?

[finite berry]

I think the Officer places them and can spawn there then

There are no actual paradrops

[grizzled kiln]

https://giphy.com/gifs/5pGd4XRmJY1Zt1Lv00

[plush kernel]

Airhead spawn and supply drops do have chute and fall down

And have physics when touching ground

Was fokin there just today watching enemy airhead drop on my legs

[plush kernel]

This is actually a sound reason

Although Id say that in the right location you can survive and do plenty of damage. Even if just 10 players start looking at the sky, thats 10 players not looking at you while you shoot their brains out.

[plush kernel]

This sounds like skill issue indeed. Like saying you cant make beef steak, because you got only frying pan. What the foq excuse is that mate.

[finite berry]

Yes, that doesn't contradict there being no actual paradrops

[finite berry]

A bad one :D

[plush kernel]

Oh I see whatcha mean.

[past veldt]

Thank you for recognising me in this way

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1320450047002939428/1489930875125633084/Weasel_Cam.gif

[plush kernel]

Well... in all due honesty... paradrops would make this game twice as much foqin cooler. And make the missions more dynamic or strategic. Because either you get your cousin Braddy who gets shot mid air or does actually nothing on ground, or you get foqin sas dudes who fck up all artilery weapons and destroy few garrisons and ops on the way back.

[covert elbow]

Like clans or game mechanics

Oh nvm just saw you say game mechanics

Apparently the game couldn’t handle it back in 2023 and nowadays it’d just be weird to have it in game

[plush kernel]

????

[covert elbow]

We already get the SAS gameplay via recon and unless we have paradrops be a unique map starter for certain maps having it as a game mechanic wouldn’t fit the history portrayed in game

[worthy charm]

It would be a epic airhead nerf

[covert elbow]

Plus airheads are para drops and yadda yadda

[plush kernel]

Airheads get dismantled in 0,5s after dropping in any decent game.

Airheads dont shoot back.

[covert elbow]

That was BM’s justification, not mine

I’d love to see paradrops on the D-Day maps where it makes sense historically

But as a commander call in? Please no. We already have enough immersion breaking elements as is

[novel geyser]

the most I would want from para drops is a unique way to start some matches depending on the map

as an actual ability during a match, nope

[glossy echo]

Does no sound make you get better situational awareness compared to bad headphones

[echo karma]

They can't give us mortars. Paratroopers are never coming ever

You're so lazy you can allow us to build the arty cannon within the second grid but you can't model a mortar system and maybe some jank animations

And mind you, they constantly change game balance but won't add mortar system

[solar slate]

i clicked on prefer not to say on my age in the survey coz i was too lazy to type and it stopped me from taking it 🤣

screw your data collection anyways

[dim gazelle]

Hi

[thin lotus]

No I will not do your survey

[lofty anvil]

Don't complain if things are changed that you don't like then🤣

[worthy charm]

Can you come seed a server then?

[stoic garnet]

Arty is the biggest larper fan service the game ever did. It’s cool for 2 games, then boring for the guy left clicking on the gun and boring for the guy who gets instant black screen because the spread RNG rolled on him

[topaz fractal]

Hello everyone. How are you?

[azure heath]

Holy

that survey took a bit

[worthy charm]

Its longer than the text I had to write in half my exams.

[covert elbow]

Is it actually 20m?

Was going to do it on my break but I think I’ll wait till I get off work

[azure heath]

took me 45

I was on the shitter

[worthy charm]

Its a bit to long to do in your break I think.

[tight trout]

less then 1 hour

[arctic rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1036120241366896691/1494400029178331288/image.png?ex=69e277fb&is=69e1267b&hm=ef44743ed66ceae229891ae27111e48186122788de72f965a05ca911235d7ec7&

🖕

[covert elbow]

Oh my god

They actually asked that? They thought these would be okay?

[honest geyser]

Im thinking of buying HLL now that I have an ssd is the game fun?

[covert elbow]

Like factions I could see being okay but roles/ classes? Vehicles?? Weapons??? PROGRESSION BOOSTS?!?!

What a joke

[finite berry]

I'll take the survey too only to say "Completely acceptable" >:)

[covert elbow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/574956209103437825/1492418872442097674/grab-anime.gif

[azure heath]

pretty sure they took everything that other games are offering and just wanted to see on that

Crazy still

[covert elbow]

Okay

It’s still crazy

[arctic rampart]

afaik, they ask the same question again, but specifically in regards to hll

So same answers there obv

[covert elbow]

I also hope they allow to expand on some of the answers befause cosmetics/ uniforms is fine with the caveat that it needs to be a unique uniform

[azure heath]

Yeah, they just copypasta in a different light

[covert elbow]

Also some other stuff because HLL’s customization is really underbaked

[short zealot]

For cosmetic let’s say is ok , we need to keep the industry alive !

[honest geyser]

Last time I asked i keep hearing the game was buggy and such

[covert elbow]

Still is

[cosmic pilot]

Someone did the opposite

[azure heath]

cancels out

[short zealot]

Yes , we have now problems on Console with VoIP but not all , I saw on Twitch for some reason for others VoIP works for me not my VoIP is brocke 🙁

[cosmic pilot]

No it doesn't, if that one guy buys all that stuff it's worth it

[azure heath]

don't give ideas

[covert elbow]

They’ll probably start charing for these smh

I remember they wanted to charge for the British and they went back on it for some reason

[short zealot]

22 min

[arctic rampart]

22 mins till we can watch bushes appear in the distance 🔥

[cosmic pilot]

Those bushes be poppin

[azure heath]

If a cobra is $20 I will buy it

[covert elbow]

22 min to get the trailer 2.0 lmao

[arctic rampart]

All the foliage in the distance: LoD? Never heard of him

[covert elbow]

Gonna make it so every bush is just a box and a hard object so it does load in at longer distances but you can’t hide in them

[azure heath]

LODs are $10 a meter

[modest agate]

Yall it’s dropping June

HLL v

[faint portal]

beta sign ups are live baby

[modest agate]

There starting beta play tests in a couple weeks

Let’s go

[nocturne slate]

where do we sign up?

[silk igloo]

huh, its live on youtube but not on their own site, k

[charred patio]

hellletloose.com/enlist

[nocturne slate]

I went there, then clicked discord, it brought me here lol

[charred patio]

ig u can sign up in the next few weeks then xD

[silk igloo]

i thought something would happen there when that clock hit 0 🤪

[azure heath]

I'm in

ts quick

[lilac vault]

Was that it?

[jaunty mulch]

was that everything in this stream from hll vietnam?

[azure heath]

I'd assume so

That was a good 30 seconds

[worthy charm]

Dont get spoiled lil´ elise

[charred patio]

we have seen only the american side tho D: (atleast i think so)

[runic gorge]

pavn for the win

[worthy charm]

Nah, there were AKs and double barrel shotguns in there.

[runic gorge]

go home gi

[worthy charm]

Also a T80 I believe? Im not good with cold war tanks.

[tender belfry]

Beta is for Pc or also console ?

[thin scarab]

Pc

[ripe crescent]

Damn it

[tender belfry]

Gay

[ripe crescent]

Was trying to sign up but it’s Pc only

[nova pivot]

Imposible

[ripe crescent]

They need to do more console tests because the original HLL runs like dog piss on consoles with PC it runs fine 😂

[tropic light]

@nocturne birch

[scarlet falcon]

they will most likely have tests later on for consoles

[tropic light]

Its time

@worthy charm