mess-hall

[hazy owl]

Does that mean we can see civil arty wars where players keep dismantling their static arties in order to use them themselves? 😄

[cedar ore]

wait yeah you can now shoot at the enemy arty guns

arty vs arty battles gonna be crazy

[hazy owl]

You can spam enemy HQ, correct

[cedar ore]

they dont need to be in the hq

[hazy owl]

Nope, you can build them anywhere within the first two sectors and the shell can easily reach enemy HQ

Just wait for 1:4 situations when the nearby HQ is locked and the enemy arties are spamming the other two HQs 😄

[cedar ore]

first 2 sectors is NOT the hq zawg

the 1st sector is the hq

[hazy owl]

You can annoy the enemy team by destroying their vehicles and repair stations at the HQ

[cedar ore]

couldnt you already do that with SPAs already?

besides, id heard theyve got a plan if thats a problem so its fine

[fervent dagger]

Seeing as they auto respawn I can’t imagine that being more effective then just blowing up infantry

[hazy owl]

No, the SPA could only drive in the middle of the map and shoot up to 600 meters. It can go anywhere now so both SPA and Static Artillery can reach enemy HQ

[hazy owl]

But there is a delay and since supply trucks respawn there as well it's a valuable asset to get rid of as well as the repair stations

[dusty bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/revive-rapper-cpr-grooves-dance-gif-17064658

[hazy owl]

I am sorry for the artillery players who will just jump in the game without knowing they can be sniped by the enemy arty 😄

My favourite gameplay with this patch - observe enemy HQ for heavy tank spawns and order our artillery guy to start spamming the HQ so the tank crew can never get in 😄

Bonus - snipe their HQ half-tracks 😄

[past veldt]

What a change

[fervent dagger]

There’s around a 20 second arty fire delay. Combined with the scatter, I'll be impressed if people can consistently pull that off, could be wrong though.

[past veldt]

Arty has killed moving tanks before...

It'll be possible

[oak current]

some say, some whacky commander even took down a tiger with a katyusha-strike

wink wink, nudge nudge

[past veldt]

He must be really good

AND handsome

[oak current]

hes mostly a sneaky backline weasel
yes

yes to both, clearly

[worthy charm]

and humble

[oak current]

and yet, hes is very..Critical of himself

[dusty bolt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1486360230051971083/1486360455642480750/image.png?ex=69c5388b&is=69c3e70b&hm=dab83561c507178b74331602175de31f1fcafe1078e54d8ad8be95b548e9d3e0&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=732&height=1502

this has to take the cake

https://tenor.com/view/where-are-you-wya-where-are-u-i-need-you-where-you-at-gif-4647402600159363081

"QAAAA departmentttttt"

[sturdy quarry]

wait for someone to come in with UE4 is like this

[oak current]

and yet, I cant reproduce this bug

might be only visible for server owners, cause it wont show for regular players nor when I was in admincam

[past vortex]

that explains it :D

[dusty bolt]

Its not

Some random player made a ticket on my discord about it

[oak current]

so how do you get it? 👀

[dusty bolt]

From a ticket

[oak current]

[hazy owl]

He said it's available from xbox/epic account or so... maybe he's trolling but I doubt it 😄

[oak current]

ah, then I wont be able to get it.

[hazy owl]

The Epic client has a server takedown option, but Steam doesn’t. Has anyone else noticed this?

[tall sun]

How is the new update

[past vortex]

yea i got the options on epic

time to try them out :}

[hazy owl]

Click the button please what does it do?

[neat urchin]

Heard Remagens frame rates are awesome lol

[past vortex]

confirmation then nothing

:{ so sad

[hazy owl]

next time they can include "Uninstall" option sheesh

[past vortex]

i want my money back (got it for free)

[hazy owl]

Can you imagine if it actually worked

[past vortex]

integrating features that some already use anyway into the ui is clearly a good thing

its called customer orientated thinking

[hazy owl]

yeah why wait for some random UE4 crash when you can do it yourself 😄

[past vortex]

that they have a workflow where it is possible to change that on steam but not on epic is terrifying

[pliant quarry]

Why can't access helmets anymore? Now they're locked by level

[worthy charm]

@hard whale There is a cooldown in the other channel

and yes the AVRE in that video works as intended

[hard whale]

Ok

I just think it's a little bit too strong because it did drop the panther with that one shell

[worthy charm]

Still funny to me that is has both AOE and 1300 damge

[past veldt]

The silence from Ben today is 😬

[oak current]

Maximum Crunchyness

its fine, the Allies are only on a single map, and that is Driel

[fervent dagger]

Supposedly it’s got high damage falloff so in theory it won’t really matter outside of direct hits. (At least that’s what the notes imply)

[worthy charm]

AVRE probably will be the canadian SPA as well

[oak current]

surely Canadians get the Bishop

or maybe I'm mixing up the arties they had

[haughty solar]

Didn't they want to add new factions?

[nova pivot]

They are adding new factions

[haughty solar]

🦦

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-canada-simpsons-ralph-wiggum-gif-486845026116855217

[oak current]

[cunning echo]

Hello

[novel geyser]

The avre should be strong
If they wanted to make it more realistic though its range would have to go down to 100m

[candid zephyr]

Sorry if it’s been asked, but,.. Does HQ arty just not work anymore? I’m firing it in the explore and practise range and the shells just… Never actually land.

[hard whale]

True but it shouldn't kill both tank in one shell ,the panther should be like needs to be fixed by that one shell just not dead

[novel geyser]

Id be cool if they nerfed its one shot on heavy tanks if they do the same to satchels

[gilded spade]

They do land but you don't see them land. Try to hit a vehicle in enemy spawn and you will them get destroyed mysteriously

[candid zephyr]

That’s absolutely f**ked. 🙃

[hard whale]

Looking at the video

No satchel

[novel geyser]

Wha?

I'm just saying if they nerf the avre damage they should nerf satchel damage too

[hard whale]

I didn't even use the satchel it was just that tank tap a panther and a P4 at the same time

[fervent dagger]

probably a bug if the changelog is anything to go off of.

[novel geyser]

I'm not saying you did

[covert elbow]

Since their nerfing flares here’s hoping they nerf satchels, but instead of the cooldown the just weaken its effect and limit it more

[hard whale]

Ok but that shouldn't happen with the other thank should have be not dead

[novel geyser]

Thy'er*

What

[past veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1320450047002939428/1486383055064010852/attachment.gif

[novel geyser]

So that's why there's so many crashes

[tough rune]

as a regular human i had those menu options... playing through epic... truly amazing 😵‍💫

[cinder bridge]

quality control stonks through the roof!

[past veldt]

https://i.imgflip.com/a9u5dy.gif

As relevant as always

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1320450047002939428/1432425437782605934/attachment.gif

[cinder bridge]

Lvl 1 bug in since the last update as well

[tough rune]

seems to be a steam sync issue of sorts?

[past veldt]

That has been in for ages. I was getting all through 2025

I had to leave and rejoin servers before comp games until I regained my levels or I couldn't play commander 🙃

[covert elbow]

What’s the issue this time?

[tough rune]

nothing too bad #mess-hall message

[hard whale]

Also the primeference region button is broken

[covert elbow]

What the ****

What the hell does the crash server button

Please don’t say what I think it does

[cinder bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19494737

[past veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1320450047002939428/1432692590825967726/attachment.gif

[covert elbow]

Man what a dev team

Releases content that’s unfinished, takes month to get it to a good spot and practically gets rid of its original purpose because that’s not that the tank was designed to do, ruins the original charm and aspect of a map, and releases an update with a “crash server” button

They didn’t even help the performance on remagen apparently

[gilded spade]

They are consistent, you have to give them that

[still oracle]

Question: Guys I just started playing after like 1 year of not playing HLL and a lot has changed,

1. I lost a lot of my skins bc now they are ranked higher
2. No one uses proxy chat anymore from what I see 😭

are there still like XP grind servers?

and 3. Why is there an arty team now?

[tough rune]

Bob The Builder

[deft shale]

It blows my mind that they continue to release unfinished updates and then are confused on why the game is dying. I truly cannot fathom how they are so incompetent

[slate canopy]

You playing on official or community? All depends on what I am doing since if I am pushing with my squad I use squad chat. If other friends are near by, I will do call-outs (ie "about 100m out at 240" or "He is laying down in the corner!")

[silver bobcat]

Why haven't they changed the name of the game to just Hell?

I would even go with Heck Let's Loot

[solemn junco]

Another great update eh? Wow, so shocked.
Can we just roll back the game to the version pre El Alamein? You know, just before T17 started taking over with big brain choices. Just go back to making worms games, clearly making games like HLL is not your cup of tea.

[rancid zephyr]

I may have been in y’all’s server and just checking if I have, remember Pvt. Doss

[past veldt]

Sir, this is the official discord

[rancid zephyr]

And?

[past veldt]

So we don't have a server

[rancid zephyr]

I meant hll servers

[mint kernel]

hello

[slate canopy]

Welcome

[mint kernel]

currently have 9 hours

[slate canopy]

Nice 👍 Having fun?

[mint kernel]

yep

[slate canopy]

Awesome 😄

[mint kernel]

only time Ive been teamkilled was in the match I'm currently in which happened twice

Im typing whilst Im dying or dead and waiting for spawn

[slate canopy]

USUALLY happens on accident. I had a game that I joined with like 10 minutes left... My 3 deaths were from teammates 😂

One was an accidental grenade, one I 'scared' someone, and the other was just crossfire accidental.

[shut ruin]

So warfare and offensive has gone not sure about that how many times to click find match

[mint kernel]

yeah though one of them was straight up on purpose he and I were in the same pillbox and he wanted to go out of it so he shot me and then t-bagged me

[finite berry]

I feel the second one so hard lmfao

[mint kernel]

yeah Ive probably accidentaly shot someone trying to provide supressing fire with an m1 carbine

[finite berry]

Also in regards to the first one, my best grenade throw was a perfect toss from my trench into another trench. Killed three people. Unfortunately, they were on my team 🥲

[mint kernel]

oof

[slate canopy]

Worst part, I got shot down by an enemy, medic got me up, went to cover, shot injured, same medic healed me, I was like "Cool! put supplies down so we can get a garri--- I'm dead." And the guy was like "sorry you scared me" in text chat.

[finite berry]

There'll always be as sholes, don't mind them much 🙂

[slate canopy]

Gotta call those in prox! lol

[mint kernel]

yeah

[shy relic]

I know no one really cares about skirmish and I get that but does anyone know if it’s possible to get into skirmish matches in the new update? There is no selection for it

[finite berry]

Problem is that I heard multiple Garands going off in front of my and I was like "take this grenade"; it seemed like I underestimated the distance of how far the enemy was away because my grenade landed directly on my team mates that were in the same trench as I was (trench was taking a "curve", so to say, y'know?)

[slate canopy]

Oof!

[finite berry]

Oh, and the first time I used the gammon bomb, I found out that it has no timer the hard way

Tossed it right at my feet and blew myself, the objective and two or three squad mates up

[slate canopy]

Oh noooo lmao

[mint kernel]

lmao that sounds kinda funny if you and your squad mates can laugh about it later on

[finite berry]

hold on, I even recorded it back then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjWUAarwdQw

It's right at the beginning

[finite berry]

At first they were upset, later we all laughed about it, hahaha

[mint kernel]

that is funny as hell

[finite berry]

yep, hahaha

[mint kernel]

spawned in 9 seconds later am spread out over a good few feet of the Utah Beach map.

[finite berry]

Ah, reminds me of that Blackadder line:
"What should we do if we step on a mine, sir?"
"Well, usual procedure is to jump 20 ft into the air and then scatter yourself over a large area"

[mint kernel]

lol

probably didn't step on a mine was just hit with an explosive

[timber bloom]

Lol first time with a game crash in over a year, directx and the server went offline

[spice shuttle]

Kinda a shame we lost all the unlocked helmets we got for free..

[past vortex]

wdym?

[spice shuttle]

At christmas i came back from a break and had all unlockable helmets and faces for 2 months, came back again today and they're back to being locked

[past vortex]

oh you had the dlc for free bug

[spice shuttle]

Gives me something to grind i suppose

[spice shuttle]

No, the level unlocked ones

[glad ocean]

Does anyone know why with the knew update I need to get to lvl 50 get stuff I bought in a dlc

[spice shuttle]

What did you buy

[glad ocean]

The mesh veil m42

It has the netting over the face

[spice shuttle]

Thats always been a lvl 50 helmet

You never bought it

[glad ocean]

I bought it in a dlc

[spice shuttle]

Which one

[glad ocean]

Yes I did I had it on

I send you a pic in dms

[spice shuttle]

Yeah mate there was a bug where all helmets were unlocked

I literally said it a few messages above

[past vortex]

*for some people

and some even got dlcs :}

[glad ocean]

Ohh I see

[spice shuttle]

Which was the case for him if he had it and now doesn't

[past vortex]

yea

[glad ocean]

Do you think they'll fix it

[spice shuttle]

Probably not

[past vortex]

this IS the fix :}

[glad ocean]

Bruh

[spice shuttle]

Bit pissed though cause now my us snipers have no brush on top

[glad ocean]

And they took my airborne fit and both airborne helmets

[spice shuttle]

Did you buy them

[glad ocean]

Yes

[pliant quarry]

Yeah, I'm I a bit upset about losing the 101st*

[glad ocean]

Yes bro

[spice shuttle]

If you have proof open a support ticket ig

[glad ocean]

Ok I'll try to look for it

[spice shuttle]

Seems like this supposed fix is only causing more issues

[glad ocean]

How do I open a ticket

[spice shuttle]

Player support https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1242767547321942036

[glad ocean]

Ok thank you

[thin scarab]

How is Remagen Performance ? That was the Main issue of the map

[fervent meadow]

Not great on console

[thin scarab]

So still allot of stutters?

[fervent meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/uh-huh-yep-nodding-head-gif-25228733

[thin scarab]

Thanks Devs for nothing I guess…..

[desert tendon]

What was the new update?

[slate canopy]

Look in #telegrams

[desert tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-thank-you-bow-steve-carell-gif-5009516783019270794

[glad ocean]

This update sucks I keep getting put into a full lobby

[slate canopy]

You can always use the server list.

[glad ocean]

How

I don't see it

[slate canopy]

I don't know how the XBOX screen looks, since PC doesn't have a 'quickplay' option. We have to look at a server list.

like it says Enlist - nad that brings you to the server list.

[dense shell]

Click on I think it’s enlist to bring up server menu on Xbox

Then you can just sort to not full lobbies

Also yall think we’re ever gonna get French soldiers, I get it takes time but come on, we’re getting the Canadians first (sorry Canadians)

[glad ocean]

I found it thank you

[deft shale]

The changes to the SPA and MIL system…. Are the exact opposite of how MILS and distance work. These devs have no idea what they are doing. This is insane. Absolutely pathetic

[hazy owl]

I don't think they ever claimed they tried to fix any performance issues on Remagen.

[past vortex]

if it doesnt stutter more thats huge

[hazy owl]

Btw it seems that static artillery is still experiencing reloading issues after the player's death or redeploy.

[thin scarab]

Should have bin 1st on the List for that map.

[past vortex]

ofc

they never acknowledged that

[hazy owl]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1485716188976775281

It happened to me after 10 mins of gameplay and to another of my teammates...

[worthy charm]

The reload animation bugs out since always and at this point we are keeping it for nostalgia I guess.

[past vortex]

"das ist brauch"

[hazy owl]

Animation is one thing but not being able to reload whatsoever is on another level

[deft shale]

Yeah @worthy charm check my thread. Can have ammo but your guy won’t even attempt to reload it

[worthy charm]

I have seen that

though I failed to replicate it.

[past vortex]

btw i got arty obsever to lvl 10 yesterday

just in time to never play it again :D

[hazy owl]

Try redeploying as it seemed to be the pattern so far

[echo karma]

I find it funny you can now build arty 1st 2 zones but we can't get mortars to save our lives

Also doesn't that f up the mills cuz you build in a not fixed area?

Also minor pick but if you want to set the remegan date later then the Germans would be gone hence no battle lmao like cmon bro

[olive slate]

Been playing since 2022 and I have never had the double reload animation bug, or the not-loaded-after-reload-animation bug. Only bug I experienced was the floating-arty-shell-loading-itself bug, but it was visual and didn't impact the actual rate of the gun firing

[olive slate]

They clearly dont play the game, are content with putting out slop, or both

[echo karma]

Adding mortars would have resulted in no iank spa too

[covert elbow]

I guarantee it’s because they want to have Vietnam and HLL keep somewhat unique mechanics so we get artillery for WW2 and Mortars for Vietnam

[finite berry]

I don't think that's the reason

[covert elbow]

Not to mention how if its the 12th then there would be mountains of equipment and vehicles scattered around

[finite berry]

No player will pick Vietnam because "oh my god, it has MORTARS"

[covert elbow]

That’s mainly why I’m mad for this. They just slapped a couple of pontoon bridges and called it a day when they could have done so much more with remagen

[finite berry]

Pretty sure they absolutely could add mortars to HLL, but they just don't because it's not worth the effort anymore

[covert elbow]

Never said that was the reason

I said it’s because they want unique mechanics for the games

[finite berry]

fair

[finite berry]

But that's the thing, why would they do more :D

[echo karma]

Adding mortars would have been more cost effective then jank spa and they could have deleted arty so win win

[covert elbow]

Nah animations are expensive

Plus we’ve clowned on all the previously added ones so they didn’t want their feelings hurt

[hard whale]

Please fix your game

Team 17

[finite berry]

They'll do it as soon as they find the "fix game" button

[haughty solar]

they dgaf

[marble edge]

Did we get a new map?

[echo karma]

Was remagen performance even fixed or did they just add side bridges?

[olive slate]

Remagen now has 3 bridges

[echo karma]

That map used to run worse than studdergrad

[winter rover]

Nah, I prefer SPGs

[winter rover]

Maybe he means add missing features? 🤔

and replace some of the weapons

Fix up the classes.. stuff like that

[solemn junco]

I see a big HLL VIETNAM button now, but I would be surprised if it's not just as broken

[finite berry]

It most likely won't be as broken as HLL

Most certainly not

[solemn junco]

everything they have shipped so far has been utter shite, so I don't know why you'd think that

[finite berry]

1. Completely different dev team and unlike HLL, Vietnam has their full attention
2. Different engine
3. Game is built from ground-up
4. Game is 100% made by T17 contrary to HLL that got previously worked on by BM

[covert elbow]

It’s the same dev team

Does no one remember when they said they had the dev team working on both game so the can have more manpower for whichever game needs it more?

[nova pivot]

It's not

They created a separated team

[nova pivot]

Makes sense both games will work the same

[finite berry]

Even if that was the case, it's still not very realistic to expect HLLV being as broken as HLL

[covert elbow]

Oh is it now?

Have we not be suprised by like… every update and how broken it is?

[finite berry]

Again, different games

[covert elbow]

No they aren’t

[olive slate]

T17 has a track record of releasing updates without QA/testing them beforehand
Different games, but same publisher, and I will expect the same for Vietnam and will happily eat my words if I'm wrong

[covert elbow]

These devs don’t deserve any benefit of the doubt

Despite BM’s faults at least the game was only a little broken. HLL is in its worse state performance and technical wise

[solemn junco]

I'll have whatever you are smoking, life must be bliss 😄

[covert elbow]

He doesnt even own HLL lmao

[finite berry]

HLL is a reasonably stable building on which several construction companies have worked, but for which the foundation plans (code) are missing. New floors are constantly being added to this building (updates).

In contrast, there is HLLV, which is built from the ground up using plans from a single construction company.

[olive slate]

They dont even play HLL they just come here to yap

[forest sparrow]

What kind of update is this????

[finite berry]

Like, I'm not even saying "omg HLLV will be great"

[forest sparrow]

It's horrible

[finite berry]

It's just what I'm expecting

I absolutely could be wrong

But yeah, these are my expectations for HLLV

[covert elbow]

This is a Chinese construction comishg we’re working with. They aren’t using good material

[nova pivot]

On What do you base your expectations? Not in experience

[finite berry]

I get that, but HLL is heading South while HLLV isn't even out yet. In other words, T17 can afford to push out bs-updates for HLL. They can't afford the same for HLLV because a messed up release would be an absolute disaster for them

[covert elbow]

A T17 one

[forest sparrow]

I don't like it

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/ummmmmm-excuse-me-what-gif-19629790

[forest sparrow]

@covert elbow

[covert elbow]

I think we need to ban you S44 player

[olive slate]

The construction company that is renovating the HLL building and building the new Vietnam building has issues with their tradesmen, foremen, PMs, etc...

[covert elbow]

Me either

[finite berry]

I'm going out of my way to explain my thoughts to three people simulatenously, that's as far away from yapping as it's possible lmao

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kazuma-kiryu-pissed-off-gif-14586175

[finite berry]

Might be the case. Again, I absolutely could be mistaken

[haughty solar]

let them game crash start again

[finite berry]

We don't know that yet since we know little about how HLLV is "built" or works.

[finite berry]

Correct.

[forest sparrow]

@covert elbow the parts I don't like is that we can't get into a match instantly, the q is full try again later and we have to pick a side and we can't pick a region

[olive slate]

The fact that we "know so little" about a game months before it's release is another red flag imo
But maybe I'm wrong too

[finite berry]

Valid point, actually

Well, we'll see

[olive slate]

Real talk though is it worth hopping over to Squad 44 lmao

[finite berry]

Will you get Vietnam? I assume you won't?

[olive slate]

I will get it ofc

[solemn junco]

months before release, what? did they even give a date?

[olive slate]

But if its the same slop I'll def refund

[olive slate]

2026, and it's currently 2026, so release must be within months

[solemn junco]

you remember the 2024 roadmap? or was it 2025? 😄

after that beautiful trailer

[olive slate]

Thats my point 😁😁

[finite berry]

It depends on what you want and what you are willing to "take".
What experience do you expect and what experience do you want?
And how much are you willing to lower your expectations regarding the number of players and available playtimes?

[finite berry]

Ah, then fingers crossed your money will be worth it :D

[edgy cloud]

ok so i needed some info how can i level up my roles in infantary like i wanna level up assault and automatic rifle man and also some other but not recon or armor , my next 2 or 3 guns are locked but my level shows 13 , can someone guide me how can i level up ?

[slate canopy]

So your account level is different than class level.

You can level up each class by A. Playing it. or B. Build nodes as engineer, and switch to the class you want to level up. As long as those nodes stay up you get passive XP.

[forest sparrow]

THIS UPDATE SUCKS

CANT EVEN GET INTO A FUCKEN GAME

[humble kernel]

I miss a separate queue for skirmish 🙁

[peak torrent]

Whats new and changed in this patch ?

[slate canopy]

Everything is in #telegrams to link you to a list.

[peak torrent]

Ok thanks

[slate canopy]

A lot of the changes are specific details so 😅 Hard to list it all

[peak torrent]

Any improvement in performance?

[slate canopy]

Take a look 🤷‍♀️ I didn't read through it all

[peak torrent]

I should update it and test it myself.
Thx for ur time

[open kite]

Why are there so little US East servers

[north nova]

Coding is incredibly complex and difficult. If you change one thing you’re changing 100 more it’s like a domino effect you make one change you have to compensate for every little detail that follows that it’s not like the game was built from the ground up it was bought from another developer and then edited and we recorded from their on

It’s incredibly complex and every minor detail needs to be justified for something else. You can’t just change one thing and expect it to not make a ripple domino effect that’s why these artillery changes and demands that people may can be a little unrealistic as it’s an incredible amount of work for the devs to put in.

[slate canopy]

As in official or community?

[open kite]

Both, I can only see like, 7-8 or less servers with good ping, the rest are over 80, or 100 ping

[slate canopy]

I go by as long as it's under 150 ping, it's playable. I'm Central US and I'll play from US West to European and have no issues.

[open kite]

Are we just unable to sort by server location or ping

This seems like an oversight

[slate canopy]

You can by ping on the right side.

[past veldt]

Just set minimum players to like 60, then sort by ping

[open kite]

Ah, thanks. I didn't know you can click it

Only 6 servers for US East that have over 50 players and they are all full

[slate canopy]

So play Central

it's not that bad.

[toxic gazelle]

Yo

[past veldt]

15% of players on US East servers. Seems reasonable

During non-peak US time as well

[cosmic pilot]

🤖

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-carell-thankyou-michael-scott-theoffice-thanks-gif-9222847

[north nova]

That was written by me lol

[cosmic pilot]

coding doesn't need to be incredibly complex and difficult most of the time

[finite berry]

But it often is

[north nova]

Understand but the game is not from the ground up

[cosmic pilot]

did i deny it?

[finite berry]

Indirectly, yes

[cosmic pilot]

there's a reason why i haven't modded an FPS game to be the way that i want it

[cosmic pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/black-panther-black-panther-black-panther-marvel-marvel-gif-25406660

[north nova]

The game has been tossed out and turned around, flipped upside down so many altercations and changes have been switched flipped and twisted to make and add these changes
Which can I say the community demand, been made to this game

[solemn junco]

Remagen is super laggy now, nice work guys

[north nova]

Edit

[cosmic pilot]

the shaders are recompiling

it'll go away shortly

[solemn junco]

i think the shaders gave up entirely

now that you mention it, something funny going on with the shadows

[north nova]

Cyberpunk DLSS 3.6 dream shade

[solemn junco]

constantly seems like a parachute is dropping overhead, but it's just bugs

[cosmic pilot]

@dusty bolt , damn you, i really thought they left the crash server button in the live game

https://tenor.com/view/my-disappointment-is-immeasurable-and-gif-20080022

[deft shale]

Can’t wait for Nam to be junk and helicopters lag when you fly and you crash and die because of it.

[spice shuttle]

Nahhh have faith

[deft shale]

I do. I have total faith they’ll screw it up

[spice shuttle]

Think positive

[deft shale]

I’m positive they’ll screw it up 😂

[spice shuttle]

Damn you're persistent lmfao

[deft shale]

I mean half the maps here are still unplayable. Everything they touch gets worse. Every update is half a**ed and unfinished

[spice shuttle]

I havent played since christmas, whats been going on?

[past veldt]

One update, released today

[spice shuttle]

As i've heard but what is actually wrong with it?

[past veldt]

Aside from artillery hilariously being able to hit the enemy HQ, it's just kinda an irrelevant update

[olive slate]

Remagen now has 3 bridges but still stutters, Arty is broken

[spice shuttle]

Arty can reach the hq now???

[past veldt]

Only 2 servers worth of people are on remagen on PC, so the update to remagen is essentially irrelevant

[past veldt]

It can be built anywhere in the first two grids

[olive slate]

The name of patch 19.1 is literally "remagen refresh" so not totally irrelevant :p

[past veldt]

On refresh day

2 servers are playing the map

[spice shuttle]

Thats stupid

[past veldt]

It's a completely pointless update

[olive slate]

At least they fixed the SMDM [H8] puddle

[past veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1320450047002939428/1337907623307251823/attachment.gif

[dusty bolt]

Supposedly it’s just on epic

[past vortex]

epic just better

[sand vortex]

me, excited to play HLL after update
new find match function
try again queue is full
can't get into a server with a decent pop cuz all severs are full

Why did you break the warfare and offensive feature? What possible reason did you have to change that?

[covert elbow]

Just tried to get a match on remagen on console and there’s was nothing LMAO

[glad parrot]

Another map refresh that was absolutely pointless

[deft shale]

To be fair it’s virtually unplayable on console and console is dying because the devs are so braindead

[past veldt]

It's virtually unplayable on PC as well

(There's only two servers currently playing it on release day)

[deft shale]

I keep saying it but I’m sorry I just can’t wrap my head around how braindead these guys are.

SPA mils are how backwards. In no arty gun do higher MIL = longer distance.

Remagen refresh is trash

And now you have to wait in a queue for public servers. (Not to mention the second of lag you get when you hit “find match”

Like, it’s literally mind blowing. I just think I’m officially done.

[gilded spade]

Fairwell soldier,

At least they got your money first

[stone egret]

I only just got a new Gen console to play it on at Christmas and I already wanna quit

[sand vortex]

Oh yea this shits mad broken. Now all game sounds are gone

[dusty bolt]

My server is playing it 🙂

[deft shale]

Way more than you’d like to know. I run a server that is always full. Gonna be shutting it down

[covert elbow]

Okay I checked again and there was 3 servers running it but after playing for 3 minutes it was so laggy my head started hurting

Thanks again T17, thanks for breaking the game

[tough rune]

(again)

[echo karma]

They never fixed the lagfest that remegan is

[harsh egret]

I legitimately would like to know how anyone is surprised anymore. When have they ever improved stutters and crashing for any map ever? If people didn't learn from the Stalingrad rework, idk what to tell ya. There is only one way anything changes, and it is not by continuing to delude yourselves with hopeium anymore.

The only thing these companies respond to or respect whatsoever at all is seeing the playerbase stop hyping and playing and defending their slop, en masse.

But people choose to avoid reality for whatever reason and so you get what you get. Same song and dance every update.

[harsh wraith]

What was the update

[slate canopy]

Check #telegrams

[covert elbow]

It’s worse actually

[deft shale]

Way worse. Literally anything they touch gets ruined. At this point they should just undo ALL updates back to pre-el Alamein refresh when things started to go haywire and start all over

[past vortex]

i mean... the consoles are just to slow

[lunar rapids]

Hello huk

[rain fossil]

are the servers down?

[slate canopy]

shouldn't be?

[slate canopy]

You have cross play on?

[rain fossil]

I thought it was on by default. It only shows me 50 servers saying 0/whatever and when I go to my recents and favorite it says "Mission Critical" no compatible servers found everytime I try

[slate canopy]

It may or may not be. Check your settings?

[rain fossil]

I verified my game files and now it started updating the game

weird though because I was able to start the game 4 times after restarting my PC lol

[candid zephyr]

What actually goes on during the early testing period? How do they not pick up on these issues… like, they’re expecting feedback on ideas and concepts, but seemingly making the game run worse than before?

[faint portal]

Oh baby wait till you see the American spa

[candid zephyr]

I drove it last night for a couple minutes — what did I miss? 😭

[covert elbow]

Wait what happened to it?

[undone jackal]

So uh, hell let loose vietnam when👀

[faint portal]

Gunner uses the hull MG and it'll clip through the entire tank my video tomorrow will show a clip of it lol

[covert elbow]

That's hilarious lmao

[thin scarab]

So Slow that we can run battlefield 6 Over 60 fps and on HLL we cant Even get stable 60

[chrome bane]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[near swan]

Dont get your hopes up, i sure havent. Trusting T17 to make a whole new game when the one we are all currently playing is still messed up, they cant even make a new map that doesnt run like 💩. I think another red flag is the fact there hasnt been anything said about it, and think about it. How is Vietnam going to play anything like a HLL game we all loved? Completely different style of warfare.

If you wanna play Vietnam, go play an arma server.

[undone jackal]

Cant dig tunnels in a arma server

Or commander abilities

[undone jackal]

🙅🏼‍♂️

[near swan]

How do you think digging tunnels is going to work? Real question not trying to be crappy. I just dont see how it would work, even less so with this game.

[undone jackal]

Listen, im just putting what their sayin it’d be cool to see, do i expect it to be actual or not break servers? No, maybe pre dug tunnels sure, i dont see any game being able to run it without destroying itself.

[fervent meadow]

Nobody who wants to play this game should be using the quick play option on the menu - you’ll get the worst quality games and well…. It’s broken.

Play a community server, support the community, it’s the only thing worth playing. The ‘official’ servers are the worst possible experience.

[undone jackal]

Ive only had a good time on community

[fervent meadow]

Anyway, another badly delivered update which hasn’t fixed any of the continued issues the players highlight, hasn’t improved the map people weren’t that interested in, but has created a whole new range of issues both for operability and the community and competitive scenes which keep the game alive

[deft shale]

You mean the official servers you can’t get into anymore because they send you to a full Q every time and it searches the same server and you can’t change it? 😂

[fervent meadow]

Exactly.

[deft shale]

I’m officially done. I uninstalled earlier and I will be canceling the server. I’ll continue to scream and yell into the void here on discord but I am too old to care about a game that doesn’t care about itself. I am 59 year old. I played game since they came out. This might be the worst handling of a game I have ever seen.

[undone jackal]

Yea its kinda crazy how its been handled ngl

[fervent meadow]

Every update upends the console community events and competitions - there’s very little consultation, we can’t participate in experimental branches (out of their control but still) and we get the raw end of the deal in performance and bugs.

[undone jackal]

Just need to do what rust did for its console players, make a seperate thing for players who already own so they can stress test

[fervent meadow]

I’d also add to that; because the performance of the maps is so bad that the veteran console community doesn’t want to play (or can’t play) them - they never feature in community server rotation.

Outside of the core French maps, you occasionally get Kursk, Mortain Elsenborn - and that’s only if servers have them on rotation or vote.

You almost never get Tobruk, El Alamein, Stalingrad, Remagen because the performance is so bad it kills the server.

It doesn’t seem much different on PC.

So if official servers are awful, unpopulated and inaccessible - and community servers don’t put the maps on rotation there’s zero point to the map refreshes as they don’t see the light of day anyway?

[analog apex]

Morning... I haven't played HLL since the patch yet, but from the feedback I see the devs have "nailed" it once again, problems even with the most obvious things. Reason for keeping zero confidence in them just as usual.

With this streak of bad updates and patches, the MG overhaul (probably the only good overhaul) now feels like they just got lucky with that one, nothing else.

[full sky]

It would be good when they have finished it and fixing all the not working or Buggy positions. 😄

[analog apex]

Yeah, but in general it's better than the 1st MG bipodding when we could have used much less positions/assets than now. Good on relative scale - better than before.

When it comes to the absolute scale, yeah we can't rate it good, nor bad though. Somewhere in the middle.

[full sky]

You know i loved the first gen 😄

Even in this update they have changed something in bipoding without writing anything in the changelog. When you test the update try bipoding on the side of Roofs

[deft shale]

Continue to pull away from the historical accuracy, virtually remove the ability to play an official server, mutilate maps while creating fake battles, ignore performance issues, and ignore half of your player base and their systems.

https://tenor.com/view/dodgeball-strategy-bold-tactics-gif-9166664

[solemn junco]

next step, remove server browser, who wants to use that anyway right?!

[soft crow]

Just got on after long day work excited to try. Can’t get into warfare and offensive? And what is wrong with the SPA?

[woeful nexus]

2 server crashes in 30 mins great

[azure ether]

When horse?

[tall sun]

lol they still haven’t fixed the German rifleman glitch

What exactly DID they fix again?

[finite berry]

A water puddle :D

"[SMDM] [H8] A puddle's texture looks unnatural" 🔥

[tall sun]

Damn I’m gonna miss my unnaturally-textured puddle. It totally took me out of immersion every time I noticed it (which was never; I’m being sarcastic). We’re saved.

[pine ember]

You know what Looks unnatural too?

[tall sun]

yo mama

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/roasted-oh-shookt-gif-8269968

[tall sun]

https://tenor.com/view/boom-roasted-the-office-michael-scott-gif-9210948

[pine ember]

Her too but I wasn’t Talking about that

[tall sun]

yo daddy

[pine ember]

No

Yo Mama

[worthy charm]

Girls please

[pine ember]

Yea please bring them here

[finite berry]

hahahaha

[pine ember]

I Need them

[spice shuttle]

Quite rare but they can be found

[pine ember]

There Are plenty but I Need more

[analog apex]

What's wrong with the official servers? (I mean, apart of them being infested with unmoderated cheaters 😄 .)
?

what did the devs do again

hmmm... I went into the ENLIST menu, didn't notice anything suspicious

[past veldt]

It's a console issue, not PC.

They changed the way they access official servers.

Still not sure why console players refuse to get used to the server browser as it's just a superior way of playing HLL 😅

[grizzled marten]

anyone have documentation on the latest rcon changes? it broke some of my tools

[past veldt]

You'll be better off asking for it in the server owner discord you're apart of

[peak knot]

or looking at the changes CRCON made to be compatible

[echo karma]

The fact they don't moderate official servers says it all

[valid talon]

How is the new update

[arctic rampart]

Haven't played enough to notice huge changes. Didn't even get a chance to play Remagen yet

[echo karma]

Remegan is trash on xbox and dead on pc

[worthy charm]

Its not a huge difference

but at least I can flank with now :}

no more building a pak and sitting on my a*s

[dusty shale]

Uhm just a question, do you all also have problems with the BAR just shooting too much towards the left side and not being acurate?

[sturdy quarry]

ah so they didnt fix the BAR then...

[past vortex]

the lack of flares is most noticeable

[spice shuttle]

Not sure if it's just a skill issue but for me the bars iron sights are very inaccurate when the bipod is deployed

[cedar arrow]

what the button crash server is about ?

[sturdy quarry]

yeh if you ping whilst bipoding is it off centre from the sights?

[smoky urchin]

Not you, when you're deployed with bipod, the bullet goes to the left, the ping goes to the right, it's all off centre.

[sturdy quarry]

i think the ping shows where it is actually shooting, same with the lewis gun for years (just saw above comment that ping may also be off)

dont know how it happens, in game since BAR bipod was added

two things to test when adding bipod:

1. does it shoot where you aim when not using bipod

2. does it shoot where you aim when bidpoded

and they didnt even bother ...

[smoky urchin]

Nope, it doesn't

[sturdy quarry]

ah ok my mistake - in any case its obviously broken and dev didnt test the most basic stuff

[smoky urchin]

It was reported during Testing. when it was introduced.

[sturdy quarry]

yep and i created bug thread after release of 19.0

[smoky urchin]

Myself and another also did. They had videos and pictures of the issue.

[sturdy quarry]

exactly which is why faith in devs is so low

[smoky urchin]

They do listen, I just find that you need to make more of a stink to get things done unfortunately. I did that with the Assault guns(SPA) and we got huge changes to how we wanted them.

Basically you need a lot of people to support your idea and push it, as long as it makes sense and done in a respectful way everything else kinda gets washed under the carpet is what I'm seeing.

[spice shuttle]

Finally someone else said it lol, felt like an absolute noob when shooting it

Hope they actually fix it

[smoky urchin]

Honestly it should have been done by now, it's disheartening when you've given time up to do thorough testing, you provide that information after gathering, videos, pictures, multiple tests and for something like this to still pass through into live.

[sturdy quarry]

well how does it even make it to the point its picked up in the experimental branch, there was one thing to check when adding bipod, does the gun work when bipoded...

[spice shuttle]

Hopefully nam will be better

[finite berry]

Try it >:)

[spice shuttle]

Anyone else feel the US and russian sniper are severely worse compared to germanies kar? They should have similar scope sizes

[past veldt]

KAR98 is probably the worst of the lot imo

It's too zoomed in for me. Much prefer the X4 of the Springfield and FG42 for the distances in HLL

[novel geyser]

The kar sniper wasn't as bad with the old scopes

[spice shuttle]

As someone who snipes un other milsims I find it perfect

[novel geyser]

The new scopes are so much worse funcually

[past veldt]

You're fighting at a max of 500m, so x8 is just entirely unnecessary

[novel geyser]

Lee Enfield sniper is also 8x but its crosshair is very good

[past veldt]

I actually don't know if I've ever used it

Or the Mosin variant either. I think they get a X4 SVT so I just use that

[novel geyser]

The scopes reticle lines up well with distances so its a lot easier to get a feel of where to aim

[spice shuttle]

Favourite scope and gun

[novel geyser]

New scopes tunnel vision you and makes them worse tho
Aiming in with an 8x is so much more disorienting than before

[spice shuttle]

I've not played in a few months, when did it change?

[novel geyser]

Oh it changed ages ago

[past veldt]

Like 2021

[novel geyser]

The old way scopes looked was shoddy but they were much better in terms of function

[spice shuttle]

Ah I started in 2023, not had an issue with the bigger scopes

Mosins PU scope gets on my nerves the most

[heady hornet]

wasnt there also a time where you actually looked through the scope and could see the surroundings?

[novel geyser]

Thats what im on about but the scope reticle was just an overlay on your screen and didn't move lol

It didn't look great but you atleast had a bit of peripheral vision

[dusty shale]

Yes like that ( im sorry i didnt formulate my sentence right lol ) im having the biggest issues :p

[spice shuttle]

Gave up on using it entirely after using the bipod

Seems like a downgrade

[past veldt]

It also destroyed your FPS

And had the weird shaking issue

[past veldt]

The BAR is actually good, just not in the MG role. It's just the same as the STG really, so use it like that

[spice shuttle]

I honestly would rather use the MG class entirely, depending on the map of course

Bar feels like it does 0 damage half the time

2 body shots and sometimes live through it

[past veldt]

It's the same damage as the STG

1 shot to down someone up to 100m for the torso hitbox, 2 after that

[spice shuttle]

At least with the stg its more controllable

In my opinion anyway

[past veldt]

The game has some wonky netcode at times which causes hits to fail, but it's still the same damage model at least

[past veldt]

Yeah, I mean people generally prefer the STG as you can spam a bit more

[spice shuttle]

Follow up shots are a lot easier too

I honestly love hitting 3 shots in a row at a few hundred metres

Just so satisfying

[silk igloo]

I wonder, it should be doable for the devs to increase rendering distance for the 8x when ADS, right? You'd almost require a map like Kursk to get shots at 1000m and such, but why not

getting shot by a sniper beyond your own rendering distance would be hell though. 2 snipers on the remagen cliff, ugh

[spice shuttle]

They should add different sizes to choose from

[past veldt]

And that's why it won't happen

[covert elbow]

WW2 scopes didn’t have multiple magnifications

You got what you were issued with or found

[spice shuttle]

Ah, i'm talking about saving private ryan, which i'm aware is fiction but would still be nice to change depending on playstyle

[covert elbow]

What do you mean

[spice shuttle]

In the movie, the sniper often switches scopes depending on the situation

[covert elbow]

Oh yea, that was fiction haha

[spice shuttle]

I did state that

[covert elbow]

For some reason he has a USMC scope which wasnt used in Europe

[spice shuttle]

Would be nice to have the option to use that but heyho

[covert elbow]

Just to unhistorical

[spice shuttle]

They need to remodel the kar too tbh

[covert elbow]

Oh yea the bolt is still to far foreward lmao

[spice shuttle]

Same with the eastern covered M42, pattern is too small

Which is annoying cause irl it looks so nice

[covert elbow]

And the level 6 German unlocks camo is way to pink

There’s honestly a lot of little issues that would be nice if they got fixed

[spice shuttle]

Yep, way too much to whine about

[covert elbow]

It’s the entire reason I am made the historical society lmao

[spice shuttle]

I'm just hoping they get most of the details correctly for HLLV

Gonna be pissed if the hueys are modelled wrong

[last orbit]

i just bought the game is it just my game or are there no servers active

[spice shuttle]

Lemme check

Nah mate plenty of servers active

[slate canopy]

Crossplay on?

[last orbit]

yes

[spice shuttle]

Try reboot

[last orbit]

oh downloaded publix testing

mb

[slate canopy]

Yeah, you need main game, not PTE.

We don't really use the PTE anymore either - the main game has the main version and the Beta testing version.

[last orbit]

i just downloaded the first thing i saw

didn't know there where two versions

[slate canopy]

Easy fix 🙂

[spice shuttle]

Lets hope your internet is good lmao

[novel geyser]

They need to make it so the pte doesn't auto download idk why it still does

So many people fall into that trap

[spice shuttle]

Something irrelevant but does anyone wish the US got a helmet with goggles? Almost like the german motorcycle helmet

[gilded spade]

No response from T17 about the new update that failed to deliver again?

Shame

[novel geyser]

They do but its a kickstarter item

[spice shuttle]

Shame tbh

[novel geyser]

So unlikely to ever see the light of day

[spice shuttle]

Bit of a waste of such a cool item, same with the sniper veil for germany

[novel geyser]

Yea

[cedar arrow]

Nothing happen lmao 😂

[covert elbow]

They already got the weapons they’ve showed off wrong so I don’t got hope

[covert elbow]

Big red one helmet, Normandy chicken wire, para camo, etc

So many cosmetics lost to time for people who don’t play the game anymore

It’s not even like unique cosmetics that were rarely seen like the Finnish helmet. It’s just normal helmets that saw widespread uses

[spice shuttle]

The more I hear the less I look forward to

[scenic swallow]

I think there's only a few people who play HLL who still have any hope for Vietnam.

[spice shuttle]

Yeah nah the way everyone's been talking makes it sound like it'll be a huge disappointment

[past veldt]

It's just because the management team for these developers seemingly have absolutely no idea what anybody wants

And the QA team either don't exist, are awful, or the management team doesn't care for their opinions

[thin lotus]

There’s like 4 people on the team

[spice shuttle]

Has so much potential

[midnight cobalt]

why yall complaing so much

you havent even played the game yet

[past veldt]

Expression Games don't seem to be a good development studio

[spice shuttle]

If there's things to complain about, they will be talked about

[midnight cobalt]

yeah but i wouldnt judge i book i havent read

[past veldt]

So it's not difficult to assume that they'll be bad at developing Vietnam either

[finite berry]

People are judging how T17 is handling this game and thus are drawing conclusions for HLLV

[spice shuttle]

If a book sounds buns and has many inaccuracies then it will be judged

[thin lotus]

Based pattern recognizers unite

But surely this time will be different

[midnight cobalt]

what from other people who havent read the book give me a break man

[past veldt]

How do you find the HLL WW2 updates?

[spice shuttle]

You had a break before you came and replied to the conversation...

[thin lotus]

They never said Vietnam will be built from the ground up either.
It will be absolutely hilarious when old hll bugs appear on the new game lmaoooo

[midnight cobalt]

havent tried it i assume it's bad or what not since you are bringing it up

[spice shuttle]

Wouldn't be surprised

[finite berry]

That genuinely will be amusing lol

[midnight cobalt]

it doesnt take alot to have a little hope and you seem a have a circular reason of hate that's why

[past veldt]

You'd struggle to because zero servers are running the map while populated right now

So why did they bother reworking a map people didn't play and still aren't? It's just bad management priorities

[midnight cobalt]

my best quess is taht they are pooling resources though that might be wrong still doesnt justify it

[spice shuttle]

I did have hope before I heard constant negative things about it

[midnight cobalt]

from people with the same circular reason of hate, listen to yourself not others

[spice shuttle]

Id rather listen to a community tbh

[past veldt]

They're supposed to be releasing a new map this year but spent time reworking a map with 13 people on it right now

Doesn't matter what they're doing with the resources if they're wasting their time on this

[midnight cobalt]

i meant taking stuff from HLL to vietnam, but yeah. Idk how HLL is gonna look after HLLV comes out

It might be like csgo and 1.6 people just flop back to the old one but idk and its not my postion to hate since i dont really know

[finite berry]

That can be explained because it was their attempt to make people play the map more :D

[past veldt]

Bro if they thought a rework would save it then they don't know the game very well

[midnight cobalt]

yeah but that cant speak for something else right?

[past veldt]

It's the same studio?

[midnight cobalt]

idk HLL might not get the same love man idk

as it used to

[past veldt]

If I kick a dog, you'd probably assume I'll kick a dog again

[midnight cobalt]

well if you kick a puppy i dont think you would kick a german sherperd

[past veldt]

Certainly a higher chance than a dog lover though

[olive slate]

Black Matter workin on a new game (Hunger) that looks a lot like HLL but more fantasy and isn't a war/strategy/fps, moreso a PvPvE extraction/survival type game.

Maybe after that game theyll start working on a spiritual successor to HLL 🙏 thats the only hope I have left.

[past veldt]

The management team at Expression has shown a lack of understanding of the game forever

Anyone got a clip of that 2023 trailer to hand

[midnight cobalt]

i am just saying HLL might not be cared for anymore since it's well kinda old and vietnam is the bigger thing. They want to put all their eggs in one basket

[past veldt]

they didn't understand it in 2023 either though,

[spice shuttle]

If they make mistakes on HLL, who's to say they won't on HLLV?

[olive slate]

HLL would be in a better state rn if they just didn't update it at all in the past year

[midnight cobalt]

fair point, but why assume they would make mistakes or atleast be sloppy with HLLV it's gonna be more cared after since that's where the money is at

[past veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/813465453942145067/1364712269107298334/speechmemified_tankfly.gif

[analog apex]

☝️ Yup, many mistakes they have done so far regarding the update deliveries, were not tied to the spaghetti code anymore, just purely T17's own dev mistakes.

[midnight cobalt]

I always wanted a pacific theatre like squad 44

[past veldt]

Honestly they seem technically sound developers. They've fixed a lot of stuff in the game BM said was impossible to fix

Their management team and the guys who make game design choices are genuinely clowns though

[spice shuttle]

And if HLLV flunks, they will surely learn and put what they learned into both games no?

[analog apex]

One then wonders... how can bugs like not reloading arty or broken flare cooldown UI happen.

[past veldt]

They can't even fix the Reinforce tooltip

[analog apex]

Mistakes? Overlooked? or... incompetence?

[midnight cobalt]

Well yeah but my quess is that's what their doing to HLL just playing around seeing what fits and what doesnt and applying that to HLLV that' why they are not trying to follow up on their moves

[spice shuttle]

Incompetence

[analog apex]

That's what I have been leaning towards to as well.

[past veldt]

Literally just text, which causes whole entire games to be lost by commanders who don't understand the ability, and they CBA to change it 💀

[spice shuttle]

They know damn well this game would have wayyyy more traffic if they did what the community asked

A game like this shouldn't be a test ground for laziness

[finite berry]

Wouldn't work in HLL.

[past veldt]

By the way, since we've been talking

Two servers flipped into Remagen and one of them depopulated

[midnight cobalt]

why

[past veldt]

Nice priorities Expression

[finite berry]

Faction balance

[midnight cobalt]

maybe that's whay they are tring to get rid of

[analog apex]

Or... the sector cap/lose drum hit sound/music - it is still being tied to the UI. If UI is not toggled visible, the cap/lose drum hit sound doesn't play. And that makes the sounds totally useless. Yet they fail fixing it.

[midnight cobalt]

they dont want people stuck on HLL they want people mad so they can pool them into HLLV

[spice shuttle]

That makes no sense

[past veldt]

Where @fluid pawn at

I'd love to know what the thought process is for why they reworked Remagen is

[midnight cobalt]

I mean think about it, if you had a good previous game and then the new one is trash

Then everyone goes to the better one

[spice shuttle]

Push your community away so when you produce a new game, the community hates your team and stays away from it from the past game

Like what?

[midnight cobalt]

But make the old worse and people will play the new one

[analog apex]

I bet the official statement would be it was feedback from the playerbase.

[midnight cobalt]

It's like csgo and cs2

[finite berry]

Pacific most likely would mean the US fighting Japan; either they'd have to completely butcher historical accuracy to achieve faction balance or you'd end up with weak Japanese tanks against Stuarts and Shermans, not to mention that the Japanese literally have some LMGs and bolt-action rifles only

[peak knot]

HLL gunplay took a long time of careful refinement to get right. Any of the new factions never got to that point, never got that same love, and as a consequence are avoided by most people. There is no chance HLLV will be any good

[past veldt]

All 142 current players are having the time of their lives on the Remagen refresh

[midnight cobalt]

it's not a impossible idea thye dont want a split they want everyone or a majority on one thing

[past veldt]

It was 143 two minutes ago btw

[spice shuttle]

People would be more excited to play it if the team did well on previous games, gta 6 for example

[midnight cobalt]

well yeah but as i said if HLLV is trash and HLL is good that's bad

For them

If HLLV is good and HLL is bad then that's good

[finite berry]

Let's be real tho, HLLV probably still will be a tremenduous success for T17

[midnight cobalt]

But if both games suck That's still not terrible

[analog apex]

Yeah, a gem in their collection probably.

[midnight cobalt]

taht's what i mean

[spice shuttle]

Until they make the same mistakes and piss everyone off

[midnight cobalt]

They wanna make HLL seem worse or something so that the sucess from HLLV will make more

[finite berry]

Who cares as long as it makes money

[analog apex]

Sadly.

[midnight cobalt]

just my guess agree or not it's there

[midnight cobalt]

true, very true

[finite berry]

Each and every time I think "nah, people can't be that hyped for HLLV", I see the hyped comments under Yarnhub's cringe game Brass Rain. Like, if people are hyped or that slop, they sure as hell will be hyped for HLLV

[peak knot]

wasn't there a poll for which map to update? or was that just for PHL?

[midnight cobalt]

They could maybe try to go a little unhistorical and give them more LMGS + SMGS

[finite berry]

Japan doesn't even have any semi-auto rifles xD

[midnight cobalt]

But that still wouldnt be too good for history

[spice shuttle]

Just go play BfV

[finite berry]

The only real SMG to speak of was the Type 100, and that thing was exceptionally rare

[past veldt]

Just PHL

[midnight cobalt]

Well they made som last ditch but those never made it out of the factory

[finite berry]

Japan also had Chi-Nus and Chi-Tos

[midnight cobalt]

yeah true and japanese tanks where good for their time but awful in their usage in the 40's

[finite berry]

And - guess what - they never left the Japanese mainland

[analog apex]

Japan would be just another British. And against the US totally unbalanced. Unless... **Burma **Japan vs British.

[finite berry]

Any Japanese land equipment in a nutshell: not too bad, but hopelessly outdated; a few exceptions proving the rule

[past veldt]

Chi-Tos?

How you winning a war with a crunchy corn cheese puff snack

[finite berry]

😐

[oak current]

the cheesey snack? tasty suggestion crit

HA

[past veldt]

You only need one pun to summon Altberg

[oak current]

[past veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/883599930059522071/1300758223757770803/attachment.gif

[finite berry]

Plus, it most likely would end up with practically no servers hosting it

[midnight cobalt]

yeah you are right it's kinda too late for it

My hope is that HLLV is coming this summer(june or july) or august, my quess in the start of the year was 30th of april but that isnt happening

[past veldt]

Remagen refresh or fixing a bug with the half track that allows you to spawn in locked sectors

I know which one I'm glad Expression Games chose

(The bug is fun)

[grizzled kiln]

Or the thought process of even making it in the first place 😂

[covert elbow]

We’ve read the first book and it was bad, why would I be interested in the sequel at all

[analog apex]

HLL is a lost cause. Yet I am surprised I tend to argument/argue with peeps about the suggestions. What a waste of time and energy I keep doing 😄 .

Or rather... "we", no, just "I".

[thin lotus]

You have like 20k hours played

[analog apex]

8.7K

[spice shuttle]

Thats a very good argument

[short night]

How do I post a recruitment post? Says I don't have permission.

[slate canopy]

#division-rules

Just make sure your group doesn't have a post already.

[short night]

It doesn't, I'm the only one who could post it. But that didn't seem to help.

[slate canopy]

Read it.

It tells you how to get access.

[proven juniper]

What on earth is this find match server full nonsense on console?

[charred furnace]

why do i need to reinstall all of HLL each time a small patch is released?? steam how do i fix this right now......

patching filesss

[midnight cobalt]

would make sense if the book was in the same series

but HLLV is different from HLL

its not HLL 2

its an entire different setting but same author

[covert elbow]

Built off of the same story telling ideas and the author had only changed surface level stuff

Which Argueably will be worse as they cause issues with the story itself

[olive slate]

The "series" name is literally in the title - Hell Let Loose: Vietnam
What are you on

[upbeat depot]

i need help

i cant see anything far way whats the best settings to have

it just looks all blurry

[midnight cobalt]

you cannot put ww2 and vietnam in the same ballpark

those are two different things, and why are you guys hating to much on a game that isnt even out yet

like you are juding a book before it even exist for you to read

that's like judging idk God without reading the bible

like i miss when we used to play games and then make opinions not the other way around

[olive slate]

We're not hating on a game that's not out yet.
We're lowering our expectations for HLL Vietnam because T17 has proven themselves incapable of quality game development (at least in the FPS world)

No ones forbidding you to be hyped up up about a release, youre entitled to your own opinion

[upbeat depot]

i need help
i cant see anything far way whats the best settings to have
it just looks all blurry

[midnight cobalt]

maybe your Anti alasing

Is it like TAA or community TAA

It should be in your graphic settings

if you have a bad AA it's gonna look bad, like bushes and trees

you should fiddle a little and see what works, also make sure your resolution is at it's max

as your monitor is

[upbeat depot]

turn it too which one?

everything is on default for me

[midnight cobalt]

Test just test

You will find something that works

[olive slate]

https://youtu.be/omZQDug_OEU?si=omAHbJj4-nVoovu6

Youtube is also full of resources

[midnight cobalt]

And make sure that your resolution is at monitors rate

[midnight cobalt]

@upbeat depot

[upbeat depot]

how do i find the resolution

[midnight cobalt]

display settigns i think

[upbeat depot]

my fps is fine its just thinks like 100m away look blurry

on console its fine

[midnight cobalt]

oh you are ps5,

what do u use a monitor

[upbeat depot]

i have it on both

on ps5 its not blurry on my pc it is

[midnight cobalt]

TV or PC screen

[upbeat depot]

monitor

pc

[midnight cobalt]

maybe cuz of the reslution try check that out it should be in the display settings

you can also look at this https://youtu.be/omZQDug_OEU?si=omAHbJj4-nVoovu6 @upbeat depot

if you have a lower end PC

[real parrot]

The PC doesnt matter much tbh Hll will still runs like sht

[upbeat depot]

my pc is pretty good

i get like 260 fps on call of duty

[real parrot]

"I use Arch btw"

[upbeat depot]

what is that

[real parrot]

Most probably is the AA, try using Community Anti Aliasing

And disabling motion blur

[real parrot]

A tech joke

[upbeat depot]

im new too pc

[real parrot]

Thats ok

It offers much more flexibility

[upbeat depot]

imma try community now

[real parrot]

Also if for some reason you have it on turn off V-sync

[upbeat depot]

yeaht thats much better

[past veldt]

Community AA, apply additional sharpness via GPU settings / monitor

[spice shuttle]

Now you can go command your team to victory 👍

[tardy dragon]

the update changed all of my graphics settings. did that happen to anyone else?

[glossy echo]

Not me

It used to reset

But now I have played like 5 sessions without having to reset my settings

[tardy dragon]

weird. i just got on and all of my graphics settings have been changed

[glossy echo]

Happend to me before too, I wrote down my settings and now I remember them

Same goes with sens and FOV

[past veldt]

did you alt f4 after you last played? or had a crash?

[tardy dragon]

nope. just didnt play for a couple days. came back and my shi is all blurry then noticed all of my settings were reset

[past veldt]

Setting reset is usually to do with a crash. Just go make a copy of the files in Appdata/Local/HLL and you'll be able to solve it quickly in the future

[hard whale]

Could we get our regions back just not enlisted stuff so like Warfare and offensive back?

[tardy dragon]

lameeee

[steel jetty]

When we gonna get HLL: IRAN?

[tardy dragon]

fuq that, we're supposed to be escaping reality not reliving it

[upbeat depot]

HLL Afghanistan

[slate canopy]

Let's not go there 😬 Ew

[raw marlin]

Hell let loose needs planes

Soviet airforce vs luftwaffe

[ocean sage]

Just play Squad at this point

[real parrot]

Squad is not very welcoming

Specially for vehicle players

[ocean sage]

Yep, I tried to get into it but always had graphical problems

of course that was before I got my 5070

So I should try again

[real parrot]

Graphical would be the last of your problems

My myself stopped playing it when I discovered an M1A2 Abrams couldn't get on top of a 5º half a metter bump

And how badly and unsatisfying vehicle combat is in generak

[tardy dragon]

what about arma? is that any good?

[wintry thistle]

Amar Reforger is pretty good

[wintry thistle]

I have a blast with vehicles in squad

[pine ember]

Why?

When HLL Modern Warfare? (plz dont ban me but I would Play this, different to Vietnam)

[cosmic pilot]

is it though

[covert elbow]

You have a Charlie Kirk profile

[cosmic pilot]

getting through the tutorial was a pain

[pine ember]

NOOOOOO I CAN HEAR IT IN MY HEAD PLEASE TAKE IT AWAY

[cosmic pilot]

holy necro

[pine ember]

Since I study the Voice in my Head is getting louder

[wintry thistle]

I remember the tutorial being weird
But besides that it's a big improvement on Arma 3

graphically, gameplay wise

[gentle lintel]

Who are you?

[cosmic pilot]

the fps controler is still arma though and it sucks

[wintry thistle]

I like it

[cosmic pilot]

graphically speaking, i can't even really honestly say the graphics are better

[wintry thistle]

they 100% are Arma 3 doesn't look that good

Reforger looks great

[cosmic pilot]

arma reforger may look better in a still frame, but it's performance is garbo

[wintry thistle]

that's probably true, i was having some issues
maybe they'll fix it, maybe they won't

that's just a Arma problem

[cosmic pilot]

with a 4060 i can't run reasonable settings in native at 1440p

wheras hll i actually can 😎

[wintry thistle]

We are Charlie Kirk

[covert elbow]

Yea your an idiot

[tardy dragon]

daymn

[covert elbow]

Your also an alt account since you joined and made your account today

But I got no clue who you are

That all you got?

Man this really is like debating Charlie Kirk lmao

[stoic garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/polar-bear-dumb-splash-yes-yes-truth-nuke-gif-17650531138070646440

[covert elbow]

Idk. You obviously have beef with me but have either been banned or made an alt account for some reason to hide yourself so I’m just not going to engage. Ciao

[tardy dragon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/9jIl2YleeeEuI

[pine ember]

Kedo spawned again

[wintry thistle]

those sentences are written to well to be him

[nova pivot]

Lol

[pine ember]

WE ARE CHARLIE KIIIIIRK

the Voices are back

[nova pivot]

WE CARRY THE FLAME

[covert elbow]

I’m so confused

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-kirk-gguh-trending-meme-charlie-kirk-gif-260876314022351132

[chrome bane]

https://tenor.com/view/kirk-if-ied-gif-8896930698438413014

[spice shuttle]

My god

[nova pivot]

Your name sounds familiar

[past vortex]

does that mean you have a smol face or something

[chrome bane]

https://tenor.com/view/white-kitten-white-kitten-cat-cats-gif-17695762

[cosmic pilot]

*too well

With what rope

[wintry thistle]

buy one

[slate canopy]

Unnecessary.

[past vortex]

give him some rope

(had to make the joke, sorry)

[main stream]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1345323930939822121/1449670806719303872/8469469369.gif

[strong bone]

L update for console ngl. The servers are laggy

[real parrot]

New to hll?

[strong bone]

No I've been playing the last 3 months and today is the worst

I dont like the find match either making me wait in a queue when I didnt before

[upper plume]

Artillery (static and SPA) are messed up in a few ways

• the splash radius is messed up causing people to live after a direct hit
  -SPA can’t take OPs anymore and patch notes never said it couldn’t
• kill counter is weird. Static arty counts as kills for everyone, but SPA kills do not

[past vortex]

oh is that true

no more op kills?

the only thing that made the spas situational useful :}

[upper plume]

One shots mediums

[dull night]

whats up

[slate canopy]

Not much, how are you?

[dull night]

very cheesy thanks 👍

[steady stag]

how did u guys get playest access?

[slate canopy]

Playtest for... ?

[steady stag]

hell let loose vetinam

[slate canopy]

We don't know yet. You can keep an eye in #sit-reps which is the Vietnam annoucement channel. Get the Vietnam role in id:customize

[steady stag]

ok ty

[wind shore]

Is there any reason to use the Boys AT rifle over the Piat?

[analog apex]

Yep, if you want to have a lower chance for killing a tank. 😄

And a bigger chance for the enemy tank to flee, repair and be back with full health in 1-2m.

[wind shore]

So it's just a downgrade? What's even the point of putting it at lvl 8 than lol

[analog apex]

Satchel > Rocket launchers > AT rifles

always best to use the satchels against the tanks to not give them chance to escape

RLs only if rly necessary and can't be helped as they are unreliable

[pine ember]

Nah, I just have a Brain damage since i started uni

[smoky urchin]

Not sure what he's on about, They can kill OPs as far as performance wise, they're fun.

[analog apex]

Even after the patch?

Because somewhere in the feedback section there was a word that the SPAs can't destroy the OPs anymore.

[smoky urchin]

Yes, I've exclusively played assault guns only now and they can 100% kill OPs

[gilded spade]

@ben ?

[worthy charm]

Epic ping fail

[past veldt]

The silence is deafening

Where community manager

[heady hornet]

I heard you need to sacrifice two Moderators to summon a community manager.

[finite berry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538055883075354637/1425201498769330216/image.png?ex=69c78194&is=69c63014&hm=e2a4624e8f733fddd1f77b43c9c88626786a89a062f1572f0f8a6f3b23589ff9&

[past veldt]

I think that contact went on holiday in the summer and never returned

[finite berry]

May God rest his soul 🫡

[worthy charm]

A Ben original 😆

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-nervous-anime-sweat-sweating-nervous-sweating-gif-8464066390113296650

[cyan saddle]

When was the last time you built a garrison?

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-hold-on-hear-me-out-colin-jost-saturday-night-live-listen-to-me-gif-23903222

-# *months ago

[cyan saddle]

Alright one more mod to go

[worthy charm]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[heady hornet]

was good meeting you

[silk igloo]

trotche promoted to mod

now you got 2

[gilded spade]

https://tenor.com/view/wowawewa-borat-wowwawewaa-gif-15656274

https://tenor.com/view/no-comment-quiet-mute-mute-deer-pause-gif-3676484987657574386

@team17

[worthy charm]

@worthy charm

https://klipy.com/gifs/yeah-but-how-stan-marsh

[grizzled kiln]

I mean, it's worth a try.

[fossil prawn]

I’m new to the game, is hacking a problem in here?

Many times I saw some dudes instantly turn 90° and shoot me from hundred meters away in a mere second. Or is this norm thing

[past veldt]

Not really many hackers to be honest.

Can be a few reasons why they find you so quickly.

Team mate pings,

They know the map well and you're sat in an expected spot

[finite berry]

As long as you DON'T play on official servers, no

[modest robin]

Just saw this game has a sale on ps5 is this game worth playing on console and if so is the game still active with updates ?

[gilded spade]

Downgrades more likely

I love this game even with the many bugs, lag, etc but the people playing it make it really worth it sticking to it otherwise I probably would not play it that regularly
Definitely buy it on sale, game is 100% not worth the full price

[modest robin]

Damn kind of a bummer I mean the deluxe version is 15 bucks right now but a game like this I wanna be fully immersed any other game suggestions that have an active player base on console u think I may like b

?*

[finite berry]

Easy Red 2

It's mostly singleplayer and doesn't look as good as HLL, but it's a very good game

[cosmic pilot]

Easy red 2 is on PS

And mods, horse react this man for soliciting other games that are not hll

[modest robin]

Oh yeah dirry

Sorry

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-why-im-here-obi-wan-obi-wan-kenobi-star-wars-gif-18535648

[fluid pawn]

Please no

[fluid pawn]

We shared a lot of the design thoughts in the dev briefs and changelog if you've not seen them already? 🙂

[arctic rampart]

probably because outside of the few people here on discord, the vast majority didn't like it? Thus also overall very few servers ran it?

[worthy charm]

Its barely a difference, and the one bridge wasnt even the biggest issue

[arctic rampart]

Can't seem to be able to filter via Battlemetrics some of the maps, but I bet some G's in here can get some stats on pre-update map picks.

[worthy charm]

The base idea just isnt really fun in a shooter

[arctic rampart]

I think the bridge + the mountain + the crappy sector lines were the issues

That as well

[gilded spade]

A big reason for servers not having Remagen in rotation before and after the update is the lag, stuttering, etc. Not how the map was designed
You guys don’t get it

[past veldt]

But barely anyone was playing the map before, and they're still not. Those people who didn't like it before still don't, and those who did like it now don't because land was invented to reduce to historical accuracy of the map

I don't really get what the purpose is, when this time could have been used fixing genuine issues with the game

Right now is the most amount of populated servers running Remagen on PC that I've seen all week

It's 4 fully populated servers 😅

[thin lotus]

you should be happy they're doing anything :^)

[past veldt]

They could have stopped in September

[gilded spade]

Update 17 should never had happened

[past veldt]

The game died in Update insert whatever number here anyway

[fossil prawn]

more hackers in official servers?

[finite berry]

Yep

Official servers are unmoderated