mess-hall

[worthy charm]

You got the game on a SSD?

[opaque gazelle]

yes its on ssd. m2 nvme actually, the fast one

[worthy charm]

Loading somethimes has issues if the game runs on an HDD

uff, no clue then sorry

You can ask in #1271718922734796865 and someone with more knowledge will help

[last tartan]

Maybe screenshot the issue?

[opaque gazelle]

cant post screenshots here I think

[slate canopy]

in Community Help you can

[deft shale]

Where do you report bugs

[slate canopy]

#1445732994269712505 is best spot.

[tame field]

I wish to Post in Console division Recruitment

[slate canopy]

#division-rules Read, follow. Make sure if you post, your community doesn't already have one.

[shy relic]

I wonder what they will break this Wednesday

[tame field]

I read the rules but it still says I don’t have permission to post

.Divagree

[slate canopy]

try again without edit

[glad parrot]

Is there an update Wednesday ?

[shy relic]

Yep

[shy relic]

Might as well report the whole game it’s one big bug

[nova pivot]

Yes?

Since when?

[keen glen]

😭

[past veldt]

Since the Wednesday coming up

[shy relic]

I heard the remagen rework is this Wednesday

[slate canopy]

Source? 👀

[past veldt]

Server owner discord

Same place as usual 😄

[deft shale]

Yeah I also have this weird bug where my little bazooka penetrates the German armor from the front and sides now 😂

[shy relic]

Trust me bro

[pine ember]

Next Wednesday is Vietnam release

[cosmic pilot]

big if true

[tall sun]

No it is not

[slate canopy]

I'm in there too lol

[smoky urchin]

Surely revealing such info should be down to T17, not people in that discord. It's there so Server owners can prepare for it, not for us to ruin the surprise.

[edgy flicker]

I can’t play hell let loose anymore

They took it off of gamepass on Xbox

[slate canopy]

So then you'll have to buy it 🤷‍♀️

It goes on sale often

[dusty bolt]

#1485781785496387694 Wow, a good suggestion

[zealous hound]

that’s when i bought it for like $20

the deluxe edition

[deft shale]

He and many others probably don’t feel it’s worth it with all the poor gameplay changes they’ve made. I’ve literally seen new players show up, not like the way rockets penetrate German armor from the side and leave. I’ve seen them hate the KIA screen and quit immediately. Alot of the immersion and “realism” has been taken away, which is what people used to come here for

[slate canopy]

🤷‍♀️ Some do, some don't. I play to play it. Not so much "NEED realism"

[zealous hound]

yeah, i don’t like the KIA screen but i don’t mind the rockets n stuff

[deft shale]

You should. It’s pretty lame. they didnt need 3. And don’t even get me started on the artillery BS. Most the time you can’t shoot. Not because someone is farming HQ, which they are, but because a lot of times some idiot is running the class upfront solo locked squad running around wasting it.

[covert elbow]

That moment when you realize bazookas were capable of penetrating German armor besides the heavy hitters and something like a Luchs wouldn’t be able to tank the hit

[deft shale]

That moment you realize they couldn’t. That moment you realize the Panzerschreck was 3-4xs the size of the bazooka specifically designed to obliterate the Sherman armor because the panzerfaust couldn’t

[cosmic pilot]

I call cap

[deft shale]

I don’t care what you think

[deft shale]

A simple Google search tells you no. It’ll even go out of its way to tell you tigers and panthers virtually laughed at the little rockets. Then if you do some deep historical research you can find even more information, first hand accounts, and written stories

Man can’t even do 2 seconds of research before he blabs about something he knows nothing about. I’d be shocked but that’s the world we live in now

[worthy charm]

My man 🧢

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/slow-turn-house-md-hugh-laurie-gregory-house-wait-a-second-gif-12890794179147405688

[deft shale]

Wish Xbox could record audio because I clipped it. He played for about 20-25 minutes. Watched me kill a tiger from the front and said that was the dumbest most unrealistic thing he’s ever seen and left on the spot. Can mock me, say you don’t believe me all you want, but the game is dying because of the changes.

queue the stream numbers that are up and down with free weekends

[worthy charm]

Did you want to react to me?

Because I have no clue what youre talking about.

[oak current]

I had upper thigh chicken meat today

[worthy charm]

Holy, but I had a whole tray of flammkuchen.

Thats at least as good

[oak current]

[deft shale]

Meh. I’ve seen you around enough to know you’re in favor “fair for all” changes that take away realism and immersion. I think you are paid by T17 to try and “keep the peace” while pointing out what they are doing is “good.” I’ve seen you lock threads when people start making a bunch of good points that go against what you’re saying

[worthy charm]

I would never take aways someones tinfoil hat, but im definitly not paid.

Would be really funny though, imagine me trolling here and moderating on the side and actually getting money for it.

[tardy dragon]

a hardcore shooter is completely different from extreme realism. this game is more hardcore than realistic and thats what makes it fun...

[deft shale]

Living the dream

Couldn’t hate, would be jealous

[cosmic pilot]

More people have quit the game because the bazooka couldn't pen German side armor than have left because it now can.

[worthy charm]

Thats it im taking your cap

[cosmic pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/strawberry-cat-domgcat-donkeycat-free-robux-vbucks-gif-9547401608137840178

[worthy charm]

Nah uh

[deft shale]

“The cod bros didn’t like the game wasn’t perfectly fair and needed to use some strategy or different resources to attack armor”

[cosmic pilot]

Don't get me wrong. I would prefer it if the game has asymmetrical balance.

But pointing to the one vestige of a mechanic being normalized to the established meta as a reason for new players to quit because it subverted their expectations is laughable.

It's just a plain silly claim to make.

[tardy dragon]

the main thing thatll keep new players to stay is their own expectation

[deft shale]

I’d say it’s even more silly to claim that’s never happened. In the years prior I never saw someone leave a match because a German tank was “too good.” It used to force you to play with the berry next to you and be strategic. Some of my best moments in game were working with a berry to take down that big bad tank. It would rally the boys. Now you just see 50 rockets spammed at them and they are like tin cans.

[cosmic pilot]

No one, except a 65 year old retired boomer gamer would have that expectation, then quit because of it, taking in the totality of the rest of the game.

I'm glad all two of them quit the game because the bazooka can pen German armor now.

[tardy dragon]

oh no im not like siding with anyone here lol. im just saying as a new player and what i see with other new players is what they expected this game to be. some thought it would be constant hell fire kind of like insurgency.

the point of rockets are to do damage to armor

historical accuracy and extreme realism isnt what i expect a video game to do, its supposed to take me out of reality

[finite berry]

It depends

In the respective genre, you kinda expect it from the game

And (at least from marketing), HLL falls under that category

[cosmic pilot]

People expect immersion, not realism

[tardy dragon]

yeaaa kinda. it depends on what the set themselves as. kinda like squad vs arma kinda debate

[cosmic pilot]

Realism is expected in simulations

[tardy dragon]

exactly

[finite berry]

True, but in some cases they expect both

Hence why I explicitly said "at least from marketing"

[tardy dragon]

a genre doesnt define specifically what the game itself will set out to do, HLL sets out to be a hardcore immersive experience rather than a simulation

[finite berry]

I'd say that people expect immersion AND historical accuracy from HLL, but no realism

[cosmic pilot]

Most people expect fun and immersion.
The sim crowd expects realism and immersion.
Only a moron expects fun and realism.

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/tigger-cant-sleep-sad-emotional-gif-12332801

[tardy dragon]

historical accuracy and game balance has always been iffy. i get your point tho

[finite berry]

Nah, that's wrong. People who explicitly want to play sims definitely enjoy them

[worthy charm]

Wait a second

[finite berry]

Aka, they have fun

[worthy charm]

What Marketing?

[cosmic pilot]

You don't expect sitting in the airplane climbing to 20,000ft for 15 min as fun. You except it as realistic and find enjoyment in it's ability to simulate it.

It's not technically fun

[finite berry]

Naturally, at the end of the day, it's still a game

[tardy dragon]

only marketing ive seen was sponsored youtubers that clip to when the chaos happens. so i assume most new people expect a hardcore always chaotic shooter

[finite berry]

But people who play sims definitely enjoy the realism

[cosmic pilot]

You accept the not fun parts as part of the realism

[cosmic pilot]

Yes, enjoyment is different then fun

[finite berry]

I disagree

[cosmic pilot]

Do you enjoy a good meal or fun a good meal?

[tardy dragon]

lol such a snarky question

[finite berry]

Hair-splitting

[cosmic pilot]

Do you enjoy fishing or have fun fishing?

[cosmic pilot]

Enjoyment can be had in the absence of having fun

[worthy charm]

Its not always chaotic, but its definitly more fun when it is. One of the reason why I prefer playing smaller tanks and hunt the bigger ones.

[tardy dragon]

both are separate but can happen at the same time

[worthy charm]

But yeah YT is probably the biggest advertising platform for this game

[tardy dragon]

oh yea totally. im just saying what ive noticed. and why there isnt much retention of new players. they expect some crazy shooter but they get in the game and run for 15 mins and get sniped and poof gone

[worthy charm]

Definitly

The new ww1 shooter is probably better in that regard...

[cosmic pilot]

Does no one watch unedited gameplay

[tardy dragon]

i played it but it got repetitive. over the top right?

[worthy charm]

HLL isnt very complex but its a lot for new players.

[slate canopy]

You should know it's the ADHD crowd - short clips only!

[tardy dragon]

good luck finding it kinda. they see their fav youtuber get into the chaos and hop in

rn if i look up HLL its a lot of sponsored vids from 2-3 years ago

[worthy charm]

Oh no altberg came back

[oak current]

[worthy charm]

Ahhhhhh

[cosmic pilot]

Not much has changed

[tardy dragon]

yea but i mean most new players see those videos instead of the full story and when they hop in, they get confused as to why they have to run for 15 mins

its a mixture of not knowing what to do in combination of expecting something totally different

[oak current]

so what I'm hearing is, that we should blame @worthy charm

points

[finite berry]

Yep, well said

[oak current]

whos now on his phone, thinking "damnit altberg"

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/i-didnt-do-anything-wrong-south-park-s23e6-season-finale-im-not-guilty-gif-19510830

[tardy dragon]

i think Hell Let Loose needs to be marketed in a whole different way. even vietnam you only see the chaos and wow amazing shooting scenes. but it doesnt ever show the harcore aspects of the game

[finite berry]

I mean, trailers are supposed to generate hype, not explain the game

That's what tutorials are for

Which HLL is famously lacking

[tardy dragon]

true that

[finite berry]

Which plenty of YouTube guides can make up for

[oak current]

sooo..what you're saying...is...

blame @worthy charm ?

-# he might now get annoyed, better run

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/ping-me-one-more-time-gif-4142606935083504117

[tardy dragon]

bruh

[oak current]

twist: he is the wall

[tardy dragon]

most moderator shi ive ever seen

[worthy charm]

Jokes on you

Im behind the wall

[oak current]

..even better

[worthy charm]

Eyyyyyy

Im the only weird mod here

Poor polarbearr didnt do anything wrong (I think)

[tardy dragon]

i aint judgin this is your domicile not mine

[slate canopy]

I'm busy in game. 😬

[oak current]

secretly playing SQ44 probably

Carrying Elise

[deft shale]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-not-smart-braindead-idiotic-dolt-gif-1043689014810828806

[slate canopy]

Don't own it 🙁

[oak current]

aaah ok

[slate canopy]

It's HLL. 🙂

[covert elbow]

Did you not read me say “besides the heavy hitters”? The bazooka was absolutely able to penetrate German mediums and parts of the heavy tanks. Also a 2.36 inch rocket isn’t anything to scoff at, especially in the 40’s

[tardy dragon]

uh oh

[covert elbow]

Also the panzershrek was made obsolete by the panzerfaust because it simply did the job better in a smaller package and was able to penetrate Sherman’s armor within its required distance

[cosmic pilot]

ha

[nova pivot]

@worthy charm

[wintry thistle]

Both

[heavy citrus]

So insanely f****ng hyped for HLL: Vietnam! I feel Like The HLL Formula is made for that Era.

[pine ember]

Is it?

[mellow knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/shia-lebouf-are-you-on-drugs-drugs-high-gif-5947535

[pine ember]

WW2 is more fitting to the „HLL Formula“ imo

[worthy charm]

Cheeky little Floppa

[gentle lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-clever-girl-dinosaurs-gif-9559854

[midnight cobalt]

my guess is like summer or maybe late spring if i am being optimistic

[rotund grail]

When are we getting performance updates for all the laggy maps?

[finite berry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1433630895172096113/1486033402946781354/image.png?ex=69c407f4&is=69c2b674&hm=de65142ed88899d60076184cf95cac91555dd687cf6e80afe879bfd8da53d5d0&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[nova pivot]

@fluid pawn any new cosmetics tomorrow?

[finite berry]

I love this paragraph so much, it's literally mortars but without mortars

[nova pivot]

Never

[fluid pawn]

no cosmetics tomorrow I'm afraid. next cosmetics coming to U20

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/big-floppa-mad-floppa-floppa-bingus-cat-gif-23008714

[arctic rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1036120241366896691/1486034158097535096/image.png?ex=69c408a8&is=69c2b728&hm=30b8cf91644dfe9c5c3244ade658e9835c9d5c0d12d68c59bedf3a8b2f09af6b&

This sounds very fun to me, I'm hoping my gut feeling's right

360 MUNITIONS?

Commanders be shooting themselves in their foot spamming strafing runs and bombing runs that only get 8 kills, now I gotta' worry about them using it to get an SPA 💀 🥀

The flare cd seems like a good idea. Felt it being too gimmicky before.

[cedar ore]

Flare guns can’t be spammed anymore

I’d say that’s pretty good

[cedar ore]

I really like this change, the AVRE is actually kinda changing into what it was designed for

[blissful terrace]

Completely breaks competitive HLL

[cedar ore]

Change the meta at the flick of a switch

[arctic rampart]

comp hll of spamming flares is just stupid

[cedar ore]

boo hoo competitions gotta learn a new technique

[finite berry]

based

[arctic rampart]

Yeah, and I think it'll be fun. But damn 360 ammo is a near 1 way ticket to ammo starving yourself for the foreseeable future.

[cedar ore]

Huh where’s this? Did I miss it??

[cosmic pilot]

How long before comp redeploy cycles players through the spotter role to circumvent the 5min reload timer

[blissful terrace]

They made this change without a single consideration for how people have played the game for the last 6 years

[cedar ore]

Might have to use the AVRE a bit more now

[finite berry]

Almost as if comp takes themselves too serious

[arctic rampart]

"The cost to spawn the A.V.R.E has been increased to 360 munitions to reflect its explosive power and its nature as a heavy tank."

[cedar ore]

whatttt no wayyyy??? They would NEVER!!!

[finite berry]

😏

[cedar ore]

oh, that’s not that bad

[blissful terrace]

Cheers for understanding 💀

[fervent dagger]

Squad lead has it so cycling will be way harder. Gotta disband squad.

[finite berry]

Stuff changes and people have to adapt, where problem?

[arctic rampart]

Recons in competative HLL:

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/fountain-fire-434260.jpg

[oak current]

didnt we get flares only a few years ago?

[arctic rampart]

gemplai

[arctic rampart]

Yeah?

[slate canopy]

yup

[cedar ore]

I’m happy with the change, I wonder how reloads will work for it though?

[oak current]

right, was U12 on july 2022

[blissful terrace]

Why create breaking changes without giving us the choice to toggle them? Its like if you removed smoke grenades from everyone but one class

[cedar ore]

Because if you get more ammo for it, will you be able to reload it but not fire?

[cedar ore]

These are nothing alike btw

[cosmic pilot]

Bro's addicted to redeploying 😔

[cedar ore]

one tells you where all enemies are, the other hides you a tiny bit and tells the enemy team where you’re coming from

[finite berry]

That comparison doesn't really work lol

[blissful terrace]

Aight wrong crowd to have a different opinion

[cosmic pilot]

Wrong opinion is wrong

[cedar ore]

This ain’t an opinion it’s just wrong zawg 😭🙏

[covert elbow]

And that’s an issue? Flares were broken and deserved to be reworked. This isnt the best option but it’s a lot better

[arctic rampart]

The only thing that feels off in regards to the update and can be truly complained about are the arty guns being placeable within the first 2 sectors.
Also brings up the question if they can be barbed in to a place so recons cannot even get to them

[finite berry]

It's not about having a different opinion, it's just amusing that comp yet again complains about a (rather positive) change because it breaks their meta of abusing game mechanics

[cedar ore]

I like it tbh, finally we have to search for the arty guns rather than just go where they are and camp them

[cosmic pilot]

The only thing off about this is it's too limiting. It should be a larger zone

[blissful terrace]

So give us a toggle then? Like what is it with changing game mechanics at the end of the games life

[oak current]

*your, since its only one person atm

[arctic rampart]

It should be a mortar at the end of the day, but I guess it's a base to work off of

Wonder if you can shoot in enemy HQ then? 😄

[cosmic pilot]

400m by what, 1200m is still too small an area to hide in

[blissful terrace]

Yep

[finite berry]

There'll be more, just you wait

[finite berry]

I think you can, but don't quote me on it

[oak current]

of course there will be. some will like it, some will hate it, like with every update

[arctic rampart]

I mean if you shift it 200m forwards, should be able to?

[cedar ore]

That is a good point actually

I’d like to think they’ve reduced the overall range on it?

[arctic rampart]

But it's fixable none the less

[fervent dagger]

You defo can. Devs said so on the livestream. They also said they had plans if it was too strong.

[cedar ore]

as they have SPAs to do the same thing

[finite berry]

Why would they add a toggle option for something as invasive as a game mechanic change just to please a portion of the playerbase?

[cedar ore]

That’s good

[cosmic pilot]

A small 🤏 portion of the playerbase.

[arctic rampart]

They can even do a simple range check from the building position to the closest HQ and reduce the max range of that gun if it's too close. That is, assuming they don't want to give the chance of shooting in the HQ

[cedar ore]

Just another day of me glazing hell let loose I guess 🥱

Cool update, cool changes, cool map refresh

Positive maxxing

[arctic rampart]

Seeing how Remagen will play now is for sure on the to-do list

[marsh mountain]

what happens with the classic remagen?

[cedar ore]

It’ll be interesting for sure

[cedar ore]

Gone, reduced to atoms

[cosmic pilot]

Shooting the HQ is, idk of dubious benefit?
If most of the battle is happening away from the HQ then it's a little dubious.

[arctic rampart]

It no longer exists 👻

[marsh mountain]

I prefer classic remagen

[covert elbow]

Also we couldn’t have just gotten 2 versions of the map? Really?

[arctic rampart]

Cool, 99% of the playerbase didn't

[cedar ore]

Bros not even played it yet

[marsh mountain]

new remagen is for modern audiences

[finite berry]

hahahaha, thought the exact same

[cosmic pilot]

Because you're using he to destroy stuff that isn't directly contributing to the battle

[arctic rampart]

Old Remagen is for W key, 0 strats audiences

[covert elbow]

Make one the allied attack on the bridge and then have this new version being a fictional counter attack and really show that the Allie’s are there with a bunch of scattered equipment and rubble?

[marsh mountain]

1 bridge was too much hardcore

[oak current]

we never do. same with smdm

[covert elbow]

This is genuinely such a lazy way to do the map when it could have been so much more unique and cool

[cedar ore]

Sir the main objective in the centre is always the bridge

[oak current]

I still have old recordings of old SMDM

[cedar ore]

There’s not really anything to complain about

[covert elbow]

This devs are… well just so uninterested it seems it makes me sad

[cedar ore]

How could it have been more unique and cool? 😭

[dusty bolt]

Hurtgen v1

[cedar ore]

They just moved the map further forward in time and gave it a cleanup

[split spruce]

Wtf why patch the flair ????

[cosmic pilot]

@fluid pawn did they fix the BAR bipod so it actually reduces recoil

[cedar ore]

Because it was op

[arctic rampart]

here we go....

[cedar ore]

LMAO FR

[cedar ore]

omg now THATS an actual issue

[split spruce]

I dont understand this choice

[arctic rampart]

What do you mean I can't have a F'ING UAV FLY OVER ME in WW2? 😫 😫 😫

[finite berry]

Comp?

[cosmic pilot]

Your brain on redeploying

[oak current]

old Forest Graveyard

[cedar ore]

I don’t think it’s actually high recoil btw, it’s just the gun moving up and down making it look like such

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/same-procedure-as-last-time-a-dinner-for-two-gif-26490465

[split spruce]

lol, hell let loose isnt a simulation

[cedar ore]

They just didn’t change the animation for when it’s firing on the bipod enough

[arctic rampart]

Never said it was brochacho

[cosmic pilot]

Either way, the fg 42 is correct, why isn't the BAR

[cedar ore]

Flare was broken it needed fixing, here’s the fix

[arctic rampart]

The mechanic as a whole is a bit sketch, having it be popping up every 20-30 seconds in the sky was beyond stupid

[cedar ore]

That’s a good question, I think the Bren even has a similar issue

Bren recoil is so weird, it’s 90% camera recoil, 10% gun recoil

[blissful terrace]

You never run a HLL server before? There's a fair amount of customisation we can do, but never for stuff like this. For some features we even have separate systems to enforce rules, such as no panther, single man arty and no medics.

This along with the use of the SPA and certain commander abilities should be configurable server side in my opinion via RCON

[finite berry]

Yes, makes you wonder why customisation is "never for stuff like this". Because - again - it's too invasive to the general gameplay to just casually toggle it

[finite berry]

Nice, make a suggestion post about it

[blissful terrace]

I've been asking for deeper customisation for about a year now, to the point where I'm starting to give up trying to help the game.

[harsh egret]

I wasted years trying to save this game for consoles. I'd highly recommend not wasting yours with these folks. Their job is now to placate HLL players long enough for Vietnam to hit whatever sales quotas they are targeting 🙂

[slender pollen]

Can someone give me a small breakdown of the new update

[harsh egret]

Go read the changelog just like everyone else got sent a link to. We aren't your ChatGTP.

[slender pollen]

I wasn’t tryna be like that😂c

[finite berry]

Is that my job? 🤔

[winter rover]

Ramagen update (wider bridge, platoon bridges etc) and artillery update

[arctic rampart]

Feels like every game that wasn't intended purely for console players, always starts failing for consoles much earlier than expected.

It just ran through my head that this same issue happened around BF4's and GTA 5's launch time.
BF4 on PS3 was only playable with up to 32 players, PC and then later PS4 only got 64.
GTA 5 on ps3 was also kind of trash with long loading times and terrible LoD issues.

Same cycle more or less repeated with PS4 and PS5 and their set of games and now it's here with PS5's and what not.

The only exceptions were, for example, the call of duty games, which, more or less, were specifically meant for consoles and PC was the side hustle

[slate canopy]

Remagen refresh, which includes extra river crossing spots (I think 2?) based off historical platoon bridges to improve bottlenecks, improvements to the main bridge, making the middle bridge the only middle point, and more airhead locations on the river(as in not this little 50m strip between the edge of the sector and the next).
SPA/artillery changes, that are too many to list.
Flare gun is on a timer, just like supplies (although I'm sure you can still reload with explosive ammo?)
Otherwise bug/QOL fixes and Quickplay updates for console

[winter rover]

replace the German bomber with an ar 234 dive bomber for the Remagen map

[arctic rampart]

Also, every single time this has happened, I don't recall a single game developer going back and re-building or re-designing the game from such a small point that it would drastically improve playability for those consoles.

Cause realistically, to make it from barely playable to enjoyable, it's not a feat that can be done within a single update and always requires re-building it from the ground up

[harsh egret]

It is true. PC games that are then ported to console are usually a disaster. The rare gems are nice.

What bothers me is the way they put the bug fixes and QoL for consoles patch note in every update just to placebo us. Game runs worse and worse with every update in reality.

[worthy charm]

You have seen the damage? xD

[winter rover]

The difference is, gta 5 was built for consoles first, then released on PC a year later

HLL wasn't

[covert elbow]

Add in a bunch of US equipment scattered around the bridge and surrounding areas to show the area is being used as a transportation hub by the Allie’s

Or flip the map so we could follow the actual IRL battle lines and have the Americans come from the town of remagen instead of west with the bridge being the right most part of the map

Like there was a lot they could have done instead of adding bridges that kinda ruin the original charm of the match

[winter rover]

And make an Ar 234 call in for the commander. Imagine hearing a jet in HLL 👀

[covert elbow]

The new eternal midpoint and extra scaffolding would have been enough for the bridge

[nova pivot]

Are you the: "I forgot this game existed" guy?

[winter rover]

Yeah

[nova pivot]

How are you doing man?

[winter rover]

Not bad not bad

[nova pivot]

Good to hear

[winter rover]

still disappointed with this game, so the same as usual

[nova pivot]

Yeah

They should add Italy, shouldn't they?

[winter rover]

obviously

But tbh, they should do an aviation related QoL update

[harsh egret]

Idc what they do to remagen if it still runs at 5 fps and crashes 100% of the time...

[worthy charm]

Planes when you say?

:}}

[past vortex]

ofc, but after pacific

[tall kettle]

https://i.imgur.com/oqjthtn.png

[winter rover]

Like first and foremost, the planes fly wayyyy too quick especially the B-17/He111/Li-2 when dropping supplies

The 109 is clearly an E model, so replace it with a G

[slate canopy]

And how much do most people pay attention to this? 🤔

[winter rover]

Stukas shouldn't be a thing, replace them with the Fw 190

remagen is an exception but remove their sirens

[covert elbow]

Man map specific stuff would be great like that

[winter rover]

Replace the B-17 with at least a B-25/26 even though a single bomber level bombing like that is idiotic but oh well looks cool I guess.. at least change the aircraft

[covert elbow]

Change up the little and big details to match the map

[worthy charm]

Everyone does

[slate canopy]

lol no

[winter rover]

All these small details is what makes the game better

[worthy charm]

Only true HLL players remember the ratte on Hürtgen

[winter rover]

Adds up

[wintry thistle]

Your lucky if the player base knows what a BF 109 is

[slate canopy]

I don't think most people pay attention to what specific plane is in the sky for an airhead or supply drop.

[worthy charm]

Absolute realism as everyone know the ratte fought there

Terror of the woods

[winter rover]

You hear a plane, you may look up no? See if it's friendly or foe?

[covert elbow]

I know it’s not your point but I hate it when people say this game is fine adding inaccurate or unhistorical details because of things like this lmao

[worthy charm]

xD

[winter rover]

But whenever I look up, I question why a heavy/med bomber is flying so insanely fast

[worthy charm]

You know im joking

[covert elbow]

That’s why I clarified

[worthy charm]

Though I still dont really care as long the gameplayi s fine

[slate canopy]

I look to see if it's our/their parachute or even if we're dropping supplies in that area.

[winter rover]

The Soviet Li-2 for supplies was a nice touch of detail though, I'll give you that

[winter rover]

well womp womp, we play differently nothing you can do about it

[worthy charm]

And Im not sure if a 1,3k avre with AOE AP damage is fine

[covert elbow]

And I’d like it if the game also followed history. Not to difficult to do both

[worthy charm]

but we will see how it plays out

[covert elbow]

Wait that’s the AP aoe???

[winter rover]

At least for the Stuka... instead of a dive bomb siren attack replace it with the Fw 190 - make it do a similar low level strike like the P-47

[covert elbow]

Wait why does the avre have ap????

Its rounds are the size of bathtubs!

[worthy charm]

This projectile is unique in that, other than its listed stats shown above, like satchel charges, the contact damage is applied directly to the hull health of a tank, meaning a direct hit from this projectile will be fatal to any enemy vehicle in the game.

[winter rover]

And replace the Spitfire with the Typhoon, have them shoot rockets instead of dropping bombs - that would be a cool difference

[covert elbow]

But it swaps from AP and HE?

[pine ember]

More people should

[worthy charm]

The AVRE has the flying dustbin and smoke

[covert elbow]

Duuude that’d be sick to get some rocket strikes instead of bomb drops

[winter rover]

ooo or a mossie

[worthy charm]

The dustbin is both HE and AP

[winter rover]

but typhoon would make more sense for western front maps

[covert elbow]

Okay that makes more sense, I think I get it now. Pretty good way to do it then

[pine ember]

When Me262?

[slate canopy]

Why? Does the specific model of plane change how the gameplay in front of me is? Me shooting one other person and kill him? Nope.

[covert elbow]

It is what brought a large majority of the original player base to the game

[worthy charm]

When Musashi as japanese comander call in on iwo jima offensive?

[winter rover]

And for ramagen, you can keep the stukas since historically they actually attacked the bridge

[covert elbow]

Okay so why not start adding prototype weapons that weren’t used? It doesn’t change anything because in just shooting bullets

[winter rover]

Buut replace the He 111 with an Ar 234 jet bomber, that would be a cool difference

[covert elbow]

Let’s add in a bunch of one of a kind tanks because it’s just shooting tank rounds at me

Let’s add the V-1 because it’s just a bomb exploding

[pine ember]

It tells you so much about what the enemy is doing, thats the point...
And no, it doesnt change YOUR gameplay, but there are people that notice if its accurate or not. That might happen if a game claims to be "historically accurate"

[pine ember]

Hell yea

[covert elbow]

Why fix visual bugs? I’m just trying to shoot people here and it’s not affecting that

[pine ember]

The historical accuracy or the tactical attention?

[winter rover]

It can change gameplay for example; replacing the Spitfire with a Typhoon that fires rockets

[covert elbow]

Both? I was saying more the historical accuracy though

It was every where in the original promotions

[winter rover]

for the direct strike call in or whatever where a fighter bomber drops an accurate bomb

[pine ember]

I fear the original community is gone

RIP to our people

[covert elbow]

And it’s still being paraded around despite it obviously not being as important anymore

[covert elbow]

We go down in history

[winter rover]

I'm still here.. sadly

[pine ember]

Honestly its getting so cringe by now

"Ohhhh historical accurate" Jokes on you it isnt

[covert elbow]

They need to drop it and start saying historically authentic

That’s what this game is. Not accurate

[pine ember]

HLL never was as accurate as other games but it was more accurate a few years ago

[pine ember]

Yea, though even that is debatable. Rather call it hardcore BF

[covert elbow]

Eh even going back to old maps BM only got the authentic feeling

[pine ember]

Same bro

[covert elbow]

And especially its loadout systems and squads. There’s no way to call that anything but authentic

[pine ember]

The maps, uniforms and guns were just more fitting than the mess we have now

[winter rover]

See even small things like for Stalingrad, replacing the STG 44 with the MKb42 would make a huge difference for me

[pine ember]

Or just removing it entirely

[covert elbow]

I’d prefer a subfaction that got rid of the STG personally. Have it for the late war maps

[pine ember]

But no they made the Panzer III an SPA

[winter rover]

Personally I would just add the MKb42 to one class and make it rare like lv 6 or 9

[covert elbow]

DUDE WHY DID THEY DO THIS

JUST ADD THE HUMMEL YOU HAVE THE MODEL

[pine ember]

I dont know

[slate canopy]

My point is the guy saying a specific model 109 E vs G. I can tell differently a recon plane vs a supply drop, but the very specific details?

[pine ember]

Its so sad to see, the Panzer III, the tank that carried the Blitzkrieg, had the concept of a modern MBT,... it got to be an artillery piece

[winter rover]

oh and the SPGs jesus, who thought it was a good idea to use the Kv-2? Soviets should've gotten the Su-122 or something instead

[fervent dagger]

Have you seen the patch notes? It’s defo not intended to be played that way.

[pine ember]

As I said. "Historically accurate" game --> People that will ask for historical accuracy. Its not even that big of a change for T17, just remove the yellow nose

[pine ember]

I dont care about the patch notes. T17 defined the Panzer III as an SPA which it isnt and is just embarrassing and a sign how deep they sank

Like they just could have made it the basic medium tank for North Africa and the Eastern front

[past veldt]

Reinforce tooltip remains unfixed. 0/10 update

[pine ember]

But no, SPA it is

[fervent dagger]

It’s specifically the ausf n model so maybe another variant could be added?

[past veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/bird-angry-birds-angry-threat-laughing-bird-gif-18359253195932061792

@worthy charm

[slate canopy]

Are you that snail?

[worthy charm]

Thats mine now

[pine ember]

Even the Ausf. N wasnt an "SPA" nor a SPG. There is just no excuse for it being the SPG. It should be replaced by another vehicle

[past veldt]

Thief!

[pine ember]

Its like adding the Garand but calling it a pistol and moving it to the sidearm spot

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/bird-angry-birds-angry-threat-laughing-bird-gif-18359253195932061792

[pine ember]

You have it in the game but not where it is meant to be

[past veldt]

When the reinforce tool tip is fixed you'll claim it's your idea

[winter rover]

Yes because the difference is noticeable especially because it shouldn't have the fully painted yellow nose anymore and the wingtips shouldn't be yellow. And if you look at the E vs G's silhouette, there's a huge difference

[slate canopy]

Okay.

[pine ember]

BF109 F is the best anyways

[past veldt]

Drop him the hug emoji bear

[worthy charm]

I will claim that this is my idea

[winter rover]

yeah we're two different kinds of players, you don't give a rats arse about historical accuracy whereas I do

[pine ember]

Casual HLL players confirmed

[slate canopy]

Never said I wasn't. My friends and I started the game to play it together.

[past veldt]

https://media.tenor.com/D7xS_jA-pj0AAAAM/look-stare.gif

[winter rover]

and that's honestly my biggest ick about this game, the casual gameplay gets pushed towards casual players who don't care about historical accuracy

[covert elbow]

Hello? The 105mm Sherman? Why tf is that being used as an SPA. It’s just a Sherman with a bigger gun

[winter rover]

and don't use a mic

[pine ember]

Which is fine but if a game claims to be accurate, youll find people that want that accuracy in that game

[covert elbow]

Has been since it realeased

[past veldt]

The biggest issue with the game is that people don't really play to win

[pine ember]

Same, HLL isnt worth it anymore

[finite berry]

Unironically this. 99% of the players don't give a damn about what plane flies over them or whether that uniform is accurate or not

[covert elbow]

Been nothing but downhill for us historical lovers for 5 years

We just need a new game that’s on all consoles

Should just make my own about this

[pine ember]

PC too please

[pine ember]

The biggest issue with the game are comp players

[worthy charm]

can you give me my hetzer?

[past veldt]

I still await a true argument for this

[finite berry]

I approve so it's true

[pine ember]

Have you given us an argument?

[past veldt]

For why people not playing the game to win is an issue?

[finite berry]

Perhaps the game is already accurate and you are simply expecting too much?

[past veldt]

I love games without garrisons

[pine ember]

If we view it like that I agree

[worthy charm]

You = critical
Critial = comp player
Critical = Bad
comp player = Bad

[pine ember]

https://tenor.com/view/forehead-slap-slapping-forehead-oh-my-god-gif-13308042

[finite berry]

I'm serious

[past veldt]

I've played a single comp game in 2026

[worthy charm]

Comp man bad

[finite berry]

Naturally, I see many of the inaccuracies you see as well

But the majority of players doesn't aka doesn't care

[winter rover]

Replace spitfire bomb strike with a typhoon rocket strike, many would be happy with that change

[finite berry]

And that's what matters

[past veldt]

Some guy on Reddit said it's fine that the in game tac maps being inaccurate, misleading, or buggy is fine because it's historically accurate

[pine ember]

I would have no issue with the game IF it stopped calling itself hIsToRiCaLlY aCcUrAtE

[finite berry]

A few would be happy, the majority wouldn't even notice the difference

[finite berry]

Welcome to marketing

[past veldt]

This is why I don't trust in anyone who deeply cares about historical accuracy

[winter rover]

But it's a rocket strike vs a bomb strike

[pine ember]

I know how marketing works, and yea, that is a way, but not a very wise one to take

[finite berry]

My point still stands

[finite berry]

It absolutely is a wise one to take because it fu cking works

[winter rover]

Doesn't the Il-2 do a rocket strike?

[pine ember]

If you wanna get criticized much then yea

[worthy charm]

It drops a nuke

[finite berry]

They aren't getting critised much

[winter rover]

Doesn't the Il-2 fire all of its 8 rockets when you call it in?

[pine ember]

It only works that well because there are more than enough badly educated people out there

[winter rover]

That's pretty cool

[past veldt]

'badly educated'

[finite berry]

Who cares, only the result matters

And they are not getting criticised a lot

[winter rover]

8 rockets being fired vs 2 bombs being dropped by a plane big difference?

[pine ember]

You could still achieve a similar result without scaring your original community away

[finite berry]

Believe me, whatever scared OG players away, it's not historical accuracy

[pine ember]

No one asks for a 100% realistic HLL. But the issues that could be fixed easily should be fixed

[finite berry]

Just because it scares you away doesn't mean that also applies to all the other OG players who left

[pine ember]

Yea true, its the casual kiddies

[finite berry]

It's a non-issue because barely anyone cares

[worthy charm]

People thinking they are OG players is cringe anyway

[past veldt]

Not even scared away as they're still here

[winter rover]

Give us Italy and they'll come back 😛

[finite berry]

true lol

[winter rover]

I'll actually start playing again

[pine ember]

Or just deliver a fixed game that gives what it promises and many vets would return

[nova pivot]

I'm OG, obscenely gay

[worthy charm]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

[nova pivot]

That is what that means

[past veldt]

If they fixed the reinforce tooltip then vets would return

[pine ember]

Only here on the server and calling out the issue. I havent played much since 2023

[worthy charm]

Ok floppa 😳

[winter rover]

imo, I don't like how the game is balanced in the sense that all call ins, vehicles, etc are equal

[pine ember]

Maybe a few rounds every year but I could count by my hands how many that were

[nova pivot]

Why are u blushing?

😏

[worthy charm]

https://klipy.com/gifs/door-hide

[winter rover]

Would be cool to see some specific strengths and weaknesses for call ins

[nova pivot]

Too late

[winter rover]

thats just my opinion though

[past veldt]

Katyusha Vs bombing run

[nova pivot]

And your opinion is wrong just because it's you❤️

[winter rover]

oh and remove all fighter/bomber support from foggy/night maps 😄

[past veldt]

P strikes are all slightly different

German Vs US supplies act quite differently

[pine ember]

Just remove the game entirely

[nova pivot]

That is actually a thing I would support

[winter rover]

im not gonna support the fact that you support me because it's you 😘

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/two-heart-that-beat-as-one-heart-love-i-love-you-gif-838340438249733916

[worthy charm]

@past veldt Sir I still need your opinion on the 1,3k HE/AP shell of the AVRE

[past veldt]

Your use of that comma offends me

[winter rover]

See, if the planes don't matter

Why did the devs bother modelling the p-38 and mosquito only for recon?

Even the Fw 189

[worthy charm]

https://klipy.com/gifs/wtf-confused-44

[pine ember]

Fw 189 my beloved

[past veldt]

How often do you look at the planes in detail

[finite berry]

underrated plane

[finite berry]

(never)

[worthy charm]

ALWAYS OBVIOUSLY

[winter rover]

I do, the moment I hear a plane I always look up

[worthy charm]

Why wouldnt you at planes? There isnt anything happening on the ground anyway

[past veldt]

Me too, but in detail

Like, do you not just look up, go oh that's a recon plane and then get on with the game

[winter rover]

in detail? I notice something's off the moment I glance at it

[oak current]

the insta-killing of tanks from the AVRE will be interesting.

[winter rover]

Bf 109 strafing? I instantly notice it's an E model

Stuka with a siren? It's hard just not trying to notice that

[worthy charm]

It will, make the comp teams allow SPAs

I need to see them

[pine ember]

WE. NEED. THE. Me 262

[winter rover]

A solo B-17 bombing an enemy position? I always questioned why not just a B-26

[oak current]

already available currently at the ECL and at the Seasonal 👀
And they are mostly disliked, since they remove OPs

[past veldt]

Go watch DasAltbergs latest cast

I'll advertise for him because he won't

[oak current]

eh was on hill40, so the SPA wasnt that annoying

[past veldt]

116 used SPAs.

Went well

(for their opponent)

[oak current]

so much sneaking up on SPAs and blowing them up

[past veldt]

A new weasel was found

[oak current]

a honeybadger

oh right, SPA was utter suffering on Mortain

[winter rover]

The biggest changes I would like to see regarding planes:

• Remove the Stuka and replace it with the Fw 190
• Remove the Spitfire bomb strike planes with the Typhoon firing rockets
• At least just repaint the Bf 109 model
• The planes dropping supplies or whatever are flying way too damn fast

[past veldt]

Utah too. Maris cooked

[oak current]

maximum cooking

[winter rover]

Those are my main ones, I'm willing to ignore all the minute details that are also bothering me

thats just my humble opinion, if you don't care about historically accuracy then that's great 😄

go back to farming simulator

[pine ember]

People that dont care about accuracy take themselves too important here anyways

[winter rover]

oh and add italy please ❤️

[pine ember]

Mashalla who gave me love here

[winter rover]

Germans v Canucks - Battle of Ortona

[wintry thistle]

Planes are the one aspect of this game they shouldn’t care about

[worthy charm]

Thats a sus reaction

[cosmic pilot]

Lmfao, you banned medics on your server? How petty can you get.

It's not even like you can properly disallow it, you have to kill the player the instant he spawns in with the kit.

[winter rover]

Ngl, I think it would be cool if sides can choose their faction regardless of the map - like in Squad

I know it goes against everything I said, but let's be honest, this game will never come close to being historically accurate

[wintry thistle]

That’s way to crazy

You should be thrown in a asylum

For recommending something like that

[cosmic pilot]

Too crazy

[wintry thistle]

What he said

[finite berry]

*that care about accuracy

[nova pivot]

@everyone react to this message

[worthy charm]

. ban floppa for everyone ping

[true ocean]

I’m tired

[nova pivot]

Be careful

You know what happened last time

[winter rover]

idk man, Soviets storming DDay while the British desert corp defends 🤣

[worthy charm]

fun stuff

[silk igloo]

I recall in ages past that they increased the damage rays from artillery so that one stick wouldn't save you, I just hope that, particularly for SPA, the rays are cast along the length of the shell. So that all the damage doesnt disappear in a dimple of terrain. But idk if it's like that even now since we got nobody to ask little details like these

I just figured that the damage radiuses of the SPA won't matter too much if the damage is stopped by a mere sightline to a point

[hazy owl]

Reading through the patch notes they haven't changed a thing since the experimental branch release. Why do they bother? Why do we bother filling them questionnaires?

[crude phoenix]

NATO = Evil

[pine ember]

NATO = one of the greatest accomplishments of the 20th Century

[crude phoenix]

The most evil Terrorist organisation more like

[past vortex]

i really hoped they did draft kedo already, but no

[nova pivot]

What =good?

[novel geyser]

this aint the place for that guys

[silk igloo]

oh boy, fight, fight, fight

[novel geyser]

before the mods come in and eat you

[silk igloo]

dont listen to this pacifist

[nova pivot]

Im just curious

[crude phoenix]

They dropped cluster bombs on my country

So a terrorists

[gilded spade]

@fluid pawn Can we have a performance update for Hurtgen for console in next update pls, Thx
Lag is making it not fun but it is a fun map to play

[nova pivot]

?

[past vortex]

pls dont feed the troll

[nova pivot]

Im curious

[crude phoenix]

Not trolling tho im serious

[past vortex]

also <@&365680483276816385> why???

[nova pivot]

Then answer my question

[nova pivot]

Since when are you KRRC?

[past vortex]

its right in their bio, what dont you understand

[crude phoenix]

Because they cluster bombed my country

[nova pivot]

I want him to say it

[finite berry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538055883075354637/1486072066619998238/Krieg.mp4?ex=69c42bf6&is=69c2da76&hm=19928c5f6a2568737b307867e3bf3808bff679b2518489243fb8e97f6b1d0507&

[nova pivot]

Where are you from dude?

[crude phoenix]

Serbia

[nova pivot]

Nice

Beautiful place

[silk igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/when-you-feeling-good-gif-17470671070861503544

[nova pivot]

A lot of tension going there right now sadly

[slate canopy]

Please leave political stuff out of here. Thanks. Not the place for this.

[finite berry]

Kids are cruel, Jack

[nova pivot]

But this is not the place for it anyway

[haughty solar]

yeah, saw them too. What a waste

[past vortex]

yea, why do you :D

[crude phoenix]

It must be remembered, It must be taught it must be known, It must be heard

[nova pivot]

Okay yes we got that part

What equals good for you, I'm genuinely curious

[past vortex]

if someone does that on purpose, without any context you should really go harder !

[nova pivot]

Execution even

[crude phoenix]

So some of you know that USA is not sunshine and rainbows

[nova pivot]

You aren't answering my question

I'm trying to have a conversation with you

[crude phoenix]

It's the most evil country

[slate canopy]

Oh trust me, us Americans know. This isn't the place for this conversation.

[gilded spade]

I’m not

[nova pivot]

O fck my bad

[harsh egret]

Hey, we are only the 2nd most evil behind our greatest ally

[nova pivot]

Hlle

[slate canopy]

Please don't continue this.

[nova pivot]

I thought you were RMC

[crude phoenix]

Im just mad you guys did that and got involved in that

[slate canopy]

I'm not happy either. Move on.

[gilded spade]

I was yes

[crude phoenix]

We remember it every March 24th

[nova pivot]

I just want to have a conversation with you so we can take u seriously

[past vortex]

you are such a failure as mod

[slate canopy]

I love you too.

[crude phoenix]

Fine I'll calm down

[nova pivot]

You got out peacefully?

[slate canopy]

I don't warn enough - Bad mod. I warn too early - Bad mod.

I get it 👍

[crude phoenix]

But Im just mad as hell you guys did that

[gilded spade]

Yes

Parted in peace

[nova pivot]

Thanks, can we have a conversation now? we can go to DMs if polarbear threaten us enough

[nova pivot]

Nice

[past vortex]

why dont you see the difference of something that comes up in context and someone who comes here and starts it on purpose without ever saying anything else?

[crude phoenix]

Ok

[glad parrot]

They won’t ever fix these maps. Like talking to a brick wall with these devs.

[harsh egret]

Careful man. I said this exact thing the other day and they muted me for 24 hours.

[glad parrot]

We’ve been asking for 5 years 😂

[harsh egret]

Valid criticisms are not really welcome

[nova pivot]

I sent you a dm

[gilded spade]

Shame really but tomorrow we have a fix on a puddle that looked unnatural on SMDM. Quite the things to focus on

[glad parrot]

Honestly, and the other Cossacks hat thing on the dlc they fixed that only like 1 person complained about

[harsh egret]

Game literally crashes in 50% of matches on console. How does anything else matter unless and until that is resolved? Been asking that for like 4 years now but here we are. Same song and dance.

[past vortex]

i mean... thats only on consoles

[glad parrot]

And?

[past vortex]

:}

[glad parrot]

Do we not deserve the basics ?

[gilded spade]

And still here we are 😂

[past vortex]

i wouldnt play if it would crash half the time btw

[harsh egret]

I'm just here to watch it burn at this point lol. I haven't played since U19 dropped.

I did try and hold out for a long long time

[nova pivot]

We have no other options

The rest of games are sht

Except slime rancher

[harsh egret]

But when half the playerbase and mods dismiss you and mute you every time you bring up an issue, and the devs themselves repeatedly ignore feedback, yeah it was time to hang up my combat boots.

[nova pivot]

I like slime rancher

[glad parrot]

It’ll be fun to see the surprised people tomorrow complain about stuttering on the remagen refresh

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-doggo-smiling-cute-pet-gif-17869715

[jolly seal]

Ah yes. Another update on things nobody asked for. Yet the Russia maps are all still laggy and the explosion on tanks and trucks is late asf now 🤣.

[past vortex]

and the lack of flares
it sounds like we went from occasional flares to flares all the time to very rare flares tomorrow :D

[sturdy quarry]

nothing in patch notes about bipoded bar not shooting straight (like the lewis gun was for years ..) hoping its fixed

[haughty solar]

team 17 in a nutshell

[long kelp]

crazy question perhaps, when does the 19.1 update release for general gameplay?

Just got into game expecting the update and flares are still regular style as fast as you can respawn

[deft shale]

Death Screen
• [Death Screen] Cause of death is empty when dying due to bleeding out
• [Death Screen] Cause of death string is empty when dying due to drowning
•[Death Screen] Cause of death string is empty when dying due to fall damage
• [Death Screen] UI string missing for melee kills

They just mock us at this point. Nobody wants this crap

[sturdy quarry]

yep if ya gonna release a screen nobody wanted at least make it work 😆

[deft shale]

It’s almost impossible to fathom how out of touch they are. Like, nobody, not even the cod bros like or wanted it

[finite berry]

I mean, that's what they did?

[finite berry]

true

[sturdy quarry]

you think its too hard to work out every cause of death in the game and put it in the first time?

[finite berry]

Never said that. I just know that UE4 is super random 😅

[sturdy quarry]

bad workman blames his tools and all that

[finite berry]

Not necessarily

Not trying to shield T17 devs here, not trying to bash them; all I'm saying is that UE4 sometimes really is random as fu ck. You fix/change something about how trucks explode and all of a sudden the player UI is broken

Where even devs are wondering "how the hell did that happen, that's not even related at all"

But I've seen such bugs appear

[deft shale]

I think the point is they added yet another thing nobody wanted, couldn’t implement it right, and instead of just removing it, it took them 6+ months to “fix” it when that’s not what anybody has asked for.

[hazy owl]

Can we officially call this the puddle patch?

[finite berry]

Absolutely, I agree

[sturdy quarry]

if this is a known thing with UE4 then you have more QA testers

oh wait

[finite berry]

Yeah, that's another thing.

Imagine you are a QA tester, the devs roll out an update and say "yo guys, we fixed truck explosions, please check whether it works now".
So you do check, everything works and you report back to the devs "nice job, explosions work now".
Why would you also test whether player UI is still fine when the devs tweaked truck explosions and both things are not related at all? Perhaps you are lucky and notice player UI being broken by accident.

Or no tester notices it and then the playerbase is like "omg how couldn't you notice". While in reality it sometimes isn't unlikely that something slips through

[deft shale]

But guys, the “numbers” are ever so slightly “up” on steam right now. Only down about 10k players from a year ago. Meanwhile console is becoming anemic. Idk how to track console numbers but it’s dying so fast on console.

[haughty solar]

apex player will ignore this

[sturdy quarry]

it sounds like you do test it all cos UE4 does that...

[hazy owl]

I like how they make it so the arty has to be built using 50 supplies, prevent seat change before reload and shells has to be resupplied by the commander and because they are delusional they make it so you run out of shells before it can be resupplied again forcing the use of useless smokes. Now they reduce the price and add another complexity through the nodes to somehow save the fact fewer people play arty now as they made it even worse or that commanders don't ressuply them

[finite berry]

I'm an active playtester for Squad 44 that does run on UE4 and is also famous for its spaghetti code. So yes, I am familiar with all the bullsh it that UE4 often does :D

And again, I'm not trying to say that T17 devs are doing everything right. I'm just not a fan of this "omg it's so easy why don't they just do this or that"

It often is not as easy as it sounds

[covert elbow]

I vote we burn Elise at the stake for his crimes

[finite berry]

Sorry, I shall join the bash-the-devs horde posthaste :D

[sturdy quarry]

if they hadnt had a year dev handover (on paper...) and since owned the game for years id agree with ya

[long kelp]

Just got into game expecting the update and flares are still regular style as fast as you can respawn, anyone know when the update is applied?

[finite berry]

That might underestimate how broken the game is and also potentially ignores that not all devs can work on everything

Remember, a level designer can't fix code-related stuff

[deft shale]

You mean the guy who blows all the resources? My favorite is the junk arty strike that he’ll drop and use 450 ammo for 2-3 kills while then not having ammo to refill you.

Yet the only straw man argument from people who know nothing about WW2 is “arty should only be a commander ability” while not realizing it makes an entire mockery of the actual real life role. Then they just say add mortars as if it is the same thing. Sure, it’s indirect fire but less damaging, more accurate, and fired much faster. They don’t know what they are arguing for 9/10 times they just say what they heard spewed before them like sheep

[past veldt]

Tomorrow

Usually 11am or 2pm UK time

[long kelp]

ahh ok ty

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/shaw-silksong-shaw-mewing-hollow-knight-hollow-knight-hornet-gif-10701033448015821325

Silence ye who does not know what he speaks

[past veldt]

My favourite piece of T17 QA testing was when they reworked Carentan, but someone accidentally moved a bridge. They then only tested the rework on Skirmish, where the bridge doesn't exist

[hazy owl]

I agree that both arty and the arty strikes are worse than before. Artillery strike was initially OP but they nerfed it too much. They should only increase the price and cooldown even to 15 minutes. With such a long cooldown and price it could be able to even destroy garrisons. I don't understand how but when it was in the game before the patch I could kill 50+ people now it's more like 5. I thought they only reduced the number of shells but if feels like they did more. By introducing this ability they could remove static artillery. Now we have 3 types of arty and all suck

[finite berry]

lmao xD

[blissful terrace]

Oh nah, it's one of the config options for the bot (not sure if we can name things here) but yeah we don't use it lmao

[sturdy quarry]

exactly when i say QA testing it can mean opening up the map once...

[deft shale]

Static and spa are still good, you just get griefed religiously on static. (Which is what they wanted) more enemy satchels and infantry hang out at hq than ever before. Most games nobody even wastes their time trying to play static because they know they’ll just get griefed immediately with no chance to defend the gun. MAYBE the update will change that but we’ll see

[covert elbow]

Y’know what would help?

Placebale mortars that can fire up to 600m

[olive slate]

Is there a chart or reference somewhere for all the new tank penetration values? Either tank-on-tank or AT-on-tank

[haughty solar]

[nova pivot]

Public execution

[silk igloo]

when they first introduced SPAs with 500m range, the mils were easy to eyeball with 100m, 200m, 300m ranges, then they increased the max range to 600m and just stretched the given ranges to 213m, 267m and other complete nonsense

ah yes im going to shoot that target 1000 meters away, now let me see the what the mils are down from the nearest 1039 meter range that is in no way arbitrary

[hazy owl]

can't wait for arty to spam HQ when 4:1 or just to simply wreck the vehicles 😄

[fervent dagger]

Yeah I remember that. I think they fixed that with the new stuff though. In the experimental branch is was back to normal ranges.

[silk igloo]

doesnt erase my suffering today and before

[deft shale]

See like this guy. This is exactly what I was saying a few messages prior about the sheep and their straw man arguments

[worthy charm]

There is not I think

[covert elbow]

Dude your entire argument is “artillery should be added because realistically it was used” when artillery would in no way be this close in reality. If you want it to be realistic commander arty is perfect because it’s a forward observer radioing back to HQ for support. I would call yours a straw man argument but a straw house would be more sturdy then your points

Like didn’t you say you were an artillery man? You should know better than anyone that being at least 2k away from the frontlines is a terrible place to be

[deft shale]

You’re right. We’ve never shot anything less than that. Never once did we train short distances, did artillery ever shoot less than that during WW2, or since. You’re right you know everything

[finite berry]

For what artillery tries to simulate in HLL, mortars would objectively be more suited

Make artillery a commander call-in and call it a day

[cosmic pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-shush-shh-ok-bird-gif-17679708

[finite berry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/584475715836051456/1434649080516317397/caption.gif

[covert elbow]

I know that the ideal ranges are definitely longer than 2k and the only time it’d make sense to see them in game would be like Omaha beach on the fictional German counter attack version of the map. For these ranges the new system of commander arty and an addition of mortars just makes the most sense in both realism and gameplay

I get that you like artillery but what is the difference between mortars and the current version of artillery

[silk igloo]

They could change the model to a mortar overnight, with janky animations, and it'd change nothing

[covert elbow]

Yep

[worthy charm]

I see we are having the 5326th Arty discussion with the same 5 people

Love to see it

[covert elbow]

And at this point I’m 99% sue the reason we don’t have mortars is because they don’t want to pay someone to make the animations

Same with correct SPA’s

Even though THEY ARE ALREADY IN VIETNAM

Just port them over why do they keep insisting on keeping the artillery guns

[worthy charm]

Sir Expression isnt BM

They do their own models

[deft shale]

Not at all for the realism. It’s no different than commander asking his blueberries to play defense as much as it is him requesting artillery to hit somewhere. It’s the job of the infantry man or artillery man to follow said order.

But what do you mean the fictional version of the map? I thought all maps were accurate via the maps of the time?

[past veldt]

El Alamein is entirely fictional

[covert elbow]

Okay at this point I’m pretty sure you’ve lied about being in the military because who do you think artillery battery’s get their fire orders from. Are they just on the frontline looking directly at the enemy for their coordinates? Or do they have foreward observers and communications with the infantry that rely coordinates from the front to the artillery’s position in the far back.

Besides the mountain that is the games numerous mistakes on their maps the devs added a version of Omaha and Utah on offensive which is a fictional counter attack by the Germans to push the Allie’s off the beachheads, same as the newest remagen refresh

[finite berry]

Probably can't because UE4 vs UE5

[deft shale]

Yeah I wouldn’t lie about that. F**k you for trying to accuse me of stolen valor

[covert elbow]

Then I’m very confused about how you continue to not know how basics such as communication works

Yes an artillery crew loads and fires the weapons but they don’t also receive the fire orders

Like your trying to say commander call ins are unrealistic when it works much better in a realism fashion then what we have now

You continue to baffle and confuse me and I can only conclude your just trying to troll at this point

[silk igloo]

Hey, the red army arty fought their own war and the infantry their own, so in that context HLLs arty and friendly fire is accurate

[covert elbow]

Lmao

[raven grail]

yoo

[deft shale]

But who dials that gun? It’s not commander. THATS my point. It’s the guy trained on the gun. I was referring to in game it’s the job of the arty guy to hit his ping if he throws it up. I was making an example saying it’s just as much your job to play defense when requested as it is to hit his ping when he gives it (again in game)

[covert elbow]

THE COMMANDER ISNT FIRING THE GUN WHEN HE CALLS IT IN HES REQUESTING A FIRE MISSION FROM THE BATTERY

With your logic we should have individual pilot roles for each commander call in, a train company to bring up trucks and tanks, have a guy spawn in to disable a garrison, spawn a bunch of ai in a truck to go to apoint for encourage, etc

Your argument continues to not hold up and I can conclude you only want to keep artillery because YOU want to play with the guns

Get out of here and take your damned guns with you

[finite berry]

That's probably it anyway. He doesn't troll, he just wants to play artillery

[deft shale]

the WHOLE point of this game (was) to have all the roles work together. Remove the static guns and you remove the role and give it to commander makes it a simulation of the job, which in turn is essentially him shooting it.

He can call in and request artillery from the battery all he wants, but the men on the guns still have to FOLLOW ORDERS to make his request come through, just like playing defense, building nodes, garrisons, etc.

[covert elbow]

He can have the same amount of fun using mortars

[finite berry]

The role would literally stay, it would just be mortars instead of artillery

Like, it literally would be the same, just more realistic

[covert elbow]

And it was a failed idea that did not work with artillery. We can still get the same exact type of gameplay right now WITH MORTARS

And it will absolutely be BETTER for the game in every way

[deft shale]

You aren’t going to like to hear that artillery and mortars aren’t the same thing

[finite berry]

With their literal impact on gameplay, yes, they are

[covert elbow]

And you won’t like to hear that they are aside from distance and explosive power

And within the boundaries of the game mortars make 1000% more sense to see

It makes them take thought to set up, resupply, maneuver, and fire rather than what we had

They have basically already made mortars except you can only place them in the first 2 sectors, have a much longer range, and have the artillery gun model

[silk igloo]

If only the commander had the time to direct arty to begin with. With how easy it is to build spawns and send critters to capture or destroy enemy spawns, there's little time for anyone to do anything else but whack-a-mole

[covert elbow]

This isn’t even a good discussion anymore because the devs for some reason insist on keeping artillery when they seriously just need to replace them with mortars and balance as needed

[cosmic pilot]

let this be enough for now

[deft shale]

Ok so now let’s switch to this question.

Does anyone know if the flare cooldown can be sped up by a node like supplies?

[silk igloo]

cant

[cosmic pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/nobody-knows-snl-washington's-dream-2-nate-bargatze-gif-3629663037087366671

[covert elbow]

Nope. Flares have just needed a rework so they aren’t better spotting planes and adding a cooldown doesn’t fix that

[river rover]

ℹ️ GeForce Game Ready Driver 595.97 WHQLℹ️
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/details/265874/

[deft shale]

https://tenor.com/view/for-once-we-agree-finally-on-the-same-page-tom-holloway-michael-park-gif-14576534

I’m all for it

[covert elbow]

Would have much preferred if they worked like artillery crews outposts so any artillery or SPA fired in its radius gains an accuracy bonus along with just being a good tool to light up dark areas on night maps, but night maps would actually have to be dark for that

[nova pivot]

When Iranian front?

With both soviet and British maps

[tall kettle]

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[tall kettle]

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[echo karma]

So they turned remegan into driel? Any content creators got a video up? I quit reading after that

Fresh baked goods last remaining content creator for hll

[slate canopy]

yeah a few do

[slate canopy]

He has an "everything coming in 19.1" video out

[analog apex]

About 19.1 ...
From the patch 19.1 changelog:

With Patch 19.1, artillery squads can now build a static artillery gun anywhere within the first two sectors of their territory. This change allows artillery crews to reposition their guns and* introduces more uncertainty for enemy squads attempting to locate them.***
Right... "uncertainty". Except for the fact that the arty guns as loud as hell and locating them will never EVER be hard, as one has to be just anywhere behind the middle sector line and we can easily hear it. (And now they will be possible to be placed even closer to the midLine, so possibly even louder and therefore easier to locate!)

Then again, making their volume lower wouldn't make sense (as we are talking about big guns here), so once again... the mortars are and should be the only way. If they were the mortars, they are not as loud at all and the goal of the changelog point would apply - recons would have a harder time finding them (or killing them if deployed in the strongpoint with the infantry defenders), even if the mortars would start shooting. However that doesn't apply for the arty guns at all as they are loud and big and can be built just in the 1st two lines and also need some considerable space to place down.

And yet again, not a single mention of the mortars in the devLog. 😡 Like wtf they think they are doing.

More of my most recent arty feedback I added here: #1479925889369243781 message

[covert elbow]

Apparently in the recent dev strean when asked about morays Ben said “wait for vietnam” so I assume we just won’t ever see them

I guarantee they’re going for the franchise thing of having different mechanics for the games or something

[analog apex]

Yeah, I know, I already made my displesure clear in here about that answer some time ago 😄 .

That kind of answer honestly pissed me off even more than if he stayed quiet. Because it assumes everybody is interested in Vietnam. But as one of the WWII-only fans, I don't care a single bit about the HLL:Vietnam, nor about the Vietnam war.

[little dragon]

So no Vietnam before GTA 6?

[fleet jacinth]

Same.

[full sky]

At least you got an Answer . A lot of People want Answers but getting none 😄

[analog apex]

There's our man online 😄 .

Just on mobile though 🥶 .

aaaand... afk xD

[nova pivot]

Good morning sam

[lunar hornet]

I'm happy in the patch notes they've fixed the players spawning in accessible buildings but the rocks on El Alamein are still broken. Can't place an outpost near rocks otherwise the same thing happens.

[past veldt]

If they spent a month polishing and gave us 19.2 at the end of April or in May, the game would be in such a better state

[lunar hornet]

skip that I want 19.3 by the end of May

snap snap

[past veldt]

Getting stuff like the rocks on El Al fixed or the reinforce tooltip corrected

Bombing runs actually falling inside the rectangle or P strikes not as broken as they are

[lunar hornet]

True for every 9 misses a p strike will hit 1 time

[novel geyser]

I want 20.4 now!

[fleet jacinth]

Easy solution: don't play El Alamein, it's crap anyway.

[lunar hornet]

Sounds like skill issue

[stone egret]

Does anyone know how to not get immediately slimed as soon as a spawn and actually get kills with a machine gun

[past veldt]

Height and distance are your friends. You want to learn how to get onto rooftops or walls, and then use this height to cover areas at 200m+

[stone egret]

I have never been good at any other role other than sniper in any game. And all the recon squads are always set to private

[mellow knoll]

So dumb.. Kind of a smack to the face to all HLL WW2 fans tbh.

[past veldt]

Just play rifleman or support

They're not particularly hard. Support is good for the team, and basically is just a rifleman with a bonus

[stone egret]

Ok

[analog apex]

only a non-GER one though

US and Soviet have access to semi-auto rifles for the support. GER Support has only Kar98K or MP40. In that case the (levelled-up) rifleman is a better choice.

[past veldt]

Kar98 is fine

For most people they're not even engaging in gunfights a lot anyway so it's kinda irrelevant 😅

And newer players don't have GER rifleman 6 for the G43 for a long time

[analog apex]

unless...

some of them turn to the "usual" other thing

[split spruce]

Excuse me, do we have the release time for the update?

[analog apex]

just... today

[past veldt]

Well, 11am UK time is the slated release time

Which is in 17 minutes, but I'm unconvinced they're making that as the server updates aren't out yet

[analog apex]

Ben is not online either.

[split spruce]

Okay thanks

[split spruce]

update is here

[odd nymph]

I like the flamethrower. Good to clean buildings from outside, fast to destroy nodes and spawns.

[dull rapids]

5 minute cooldown on flare, yea t17 pls keep changing stuff that no one wants and makes the game worse

[dense gale]

Is team 17 actually stupid ?

HOW CAN THEY NEVER SEEM TO LISTEN, Don't do stupid updates without putting a good Community vote into it.

@fluid pawn ur fault

[static granite]

They always find ways to destroy this game. Nobody asked for any of this nonsense . Way to go again

[glad parrot]

And the fact performance will still be terrible on remagen

[smoky urchin]

As opposed to breaking the game with free vision, redeploy, flare, redeploy flare, That's way too strong and beats any commander recon ability plus see's through roofs. I'm glad it's nerfed.

[peak knot]

really curious how much comp teams are going to be cycling spotters now

[fervent dagger]

Considering they'd lose their outpost in the process, probably not that often unless they are defending a key objective.

[peak knot]

not if the sniper stays in the squad

[fervent dagger]

True. I suspect it will happen but it also sounds like faff.

[peak knot]

maybe it become a role like support; defense/flex players jumping in for a second when they want a flare and just generally not using spotter for the rest

[past veldt]

It has been discussed, for sure. Not sure how keen I am on that becoming meta as it's a bit of a chore

If there was a way to police it easily, I'd happily ban flares

[tall sun]

Are we getting any new cosmetics with this patch

[woven flume]

🫩

[worthy charm]

You will have to wait until U20 comes out.

[woven flume]

Stop complaining and just play the damn game

[sturdy quarry]

can we put bugs in the upadte 19 feedback or does it get wiped and become 19.1

[dusty bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-the-dark-knight-here-we-go-the-joker-gif-15343519

[past veldt]

Thoughts on this thread getting locked, Glow?

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1447327266064306279

[peak knot]

yeah I am a little bit hopeful spotter cycling will just be banned by tournament rules

but it doesn't seem that bad a loop for defense players; if they need vision and can hop in and fire a flare that might be quite nice for them

[past veldt]

How do you police it?

Post match log checks?

[normal fjord]

if someone can be bothered cycling, let them

[woven flume]

Or when you see a flare just get up and move. It’s not that hard

[past veldt]

I remember having a team play both spotters man marking me

[woven flume]

Skill issues

Maybe shoot back

[cyan saddle]

Spotter cycling sounds mega inefficient

[worthy charm]

They killed you hopefully?

[cyan saddle]

I don't know how much teams value their flares but I don't expect it to happen a lot

[peak knot]

how do they police not having more than 6 people spawn on a single OP by kicking squad members?

[tall sun]

Well that’s disappointing

[past veldt]

There's nothing I can do to combat that

[past veldt]

Is that against the rules?

[worthy charm]

Sowy🥲
Im just the messenger

[past veldt]

Ofc. I was playing off logi in that game and just got completely nullified. Zero impact all game because of it

[worthy charm]

Those bullys

[past veldt]

Game before that I'd absolutely ruined IR as a redzone duo. Just absolute torture, so the next game I got marked out of the game

[peak knot]

pretty sure I saw something about that

[oak current]

quick, fire!

[past veldt]

Maybe, I haven't checked the rules for a while

[worthy charm]

dies

[peak knot]

each tournament is different too

[oak current]

eh, I stopped reading the rules - except caster stuff
happy surprise, when I see a panther or a SPA

[oak current]

[past veldt]

Well, I used to be someone who had to read the rulebook for the team

Let them know whenever their dumb ideas were illegal

[oak current]

[dusty bolt]

ⓘ This post has been redacted by Team17.

[gilded spade]

Patch is out lets look at the natural looking puddle on smdm

[past veldt]

The hilarious Half track bug is not against the rules though...

[dusty bolt]

Not gonna lie, I bursted out laughing when I read that

[hazy owl]

This bug is unacceptable! https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1486333840975986708 😄

[gilded spade]

Ridiculous

[finite berry]

Understandable, honestly

[pearl ledge]

Rip recon. now the most worthless role in the game and will hardly be played. Great job t17. Maybe next we remove the guns from tanks.

[heady hornet]

clowncar OPs are allowed in seasonal and banned in ECL.

[fringe hollow]

Comp boils the game down so much that hearing other people explain how like 3 classes are the only ones used. Minor change like a cooldown so spam isnt a thing and a class is "ruined"

[past veldt]

Their outpost is still really strong, so I guess you're not using that ability to it's full effect

[past veldt]

I don't think I've seen a single comp player I know complaining that spotter is ruined

Just different

[blazing summit]

Dont fix what wasn’t broken comes to mind

[molten sail]

I don't think we are playing the same game

[fringe hollow]

I just got here and the first thing I see is "rip recon". Probably not comp player but still

[past veldt]

So don't blame comp players if it's not a comp player complaining

[finite berry]

True

[past veldt]

It's not 'but still' when your entire point dies with that

[fringe hollow]

The way he spoke, I assumed. My bad then

[pearl ledge]

your right. I certainly won't be playing this garbage anymore.

[molten sail]

Uninstalled over fixing flares

[past veldt]

Oh no, my low skill redeploy gameplay is ruined

[molten sail]

Doesn't the arty squad also have a flare?

[pearl ledge]

hardly. The 99000 other issues.

[heady hornet]

yes

[hard whale]

The only thing I'm going to say the British Spa kind of broken pretty strong I was in basic training and I shot it and I destroyed the Panther and the P4 in one shell

[molten sail]

Not mentioning that the spotter can just leave the squad and anyone can come in and shoot their flare or is it global cooldown?

[novel geyser]

Low range tho
Realistically it should be lower

[past veldt]

Per player

[heady hornet]

just like any other form of cooldown, it's bound to the player

[pearl ledge]

not everyone cares about comp garbage. some of us just play for fun. wild concept I know. but ill be quiet now hll overlord. no one cares that your level 500.

[novel geyser]

Arty recon loop should have been killed long ago

[past veldt]

I hope you get the hugs you need

[cyan saddle]

Recon being a useless role now is a crazy take ngl

That's like saying AT is worthless since they increased tank health

Sort of

[oak current]

but Abu, AT needs quick NERF/BOOST because Tanks are currently FAR TOO WEAK / MASSIVELY OVERPOWERED.

insert your own factions choice

[cyan saddle]

increase sprint speed and all problems will be solved

[novel geyser]

Add horses and the game will sell more

[cyan saddle]

you may speech bubble this

[nova pivot]

Real and factual

[oak current]

i dont do speech bubbles 😄

[heady hornet]

The only useless class is the medic. Also while we are at it. Does nobody that wants realism, think its weird you can get revived with morphine and be instantly back in the game?

[cyan saddle]

Speaking of medics

[molten sail]

Well actually British medic is actually worth playing

[cyan saddle]

Check #1098158460463480842

[oak current]

for the horse thread?

[oak current]

oh that one

[heady hornet]

like Doc from R6

[oak current]

missed the dragging request and the tank-mounted-mgs requests

oh and a request for pacific

then we'd have the usuals for these kind of requests

[molten sail]

I request realistic puddles.

[oak current]

i missed the meme for this one. its a realistic / fake looking puddle on smdm?

or whats the origin of this?

[worthy charm]

Schrödingers tanks

[novel geyser]

.Counter

[novel geyser]

Incredible

[peak knot]

Only way some people get rostered

[tall kettle]

https://i.imgur.com/oqjthtn.png

[coarse verge]

Is HLL down? like nothing but CN servers available?

[past veldt]

Playing for the wrong team then

[brittle iris]

Life is like a diiiihh sometimes it is up, sometimes it is down. And it is small

[past veldt]

I'm not a great shooter but won seasonal as frontline SL

[gilded spade]

They fixed a puddle that looked unnatural. Now it does look natural. Our eyes have been blessed

[normal fjord]

how about the fact it actually says 'crash' and 'crash server' still on menu in-game?

that's a fun new addition

[oak current]

tried it, doesnt show me either

neither as regular player, nor in admincam
maybe if you are a server owner?

[normal fjord]

maybe - I'll send you pic

😜

[oak current]

oh i know the pic

thats why I tried to get it myself, but didnt get it

[pliant quarry]

Is anyone else's update taking way too long to verify?

[hazy owl]

actually you need brains for flare -> redeploy gameplay as well 😄

is it mentioned anywhere in the patch notes that you cannot reload static artillery that was built by another squad?

[gilded spade]

oh god

[hazy owl]

I was in squad A and we built the static artillery. I was able to operate it as usual. Later I opened another arty squad B and was able to enter and shoot one shell but when trying to reload the animation ran but it said "empty" as the shell was not loaded.. when I asked the other guy from squad A to reload it for me he was able to do it.. once the squad A was disbanded as the players left the server I was able to use the static arty as usual again..

Is that a bug or a feature? 😄

I bet I was still able to dismantle the artillery while being in squad B