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They’re a step in the right direction. Still needs more.
Yeah, I did. Probably disliked it then, I dont remember, but regardless I think different now. Didn't have halftracks or SPAs then
redeploying is cheap yeah but I'd rather they do it in better ways that weird cooldowns
It needs a much smaller range limit like real SPGs
Should be open top when operating the gun
And their name fixing
Unless you did make them into actual spgs
Just limiting redzone garris to the first 200m would go a long way
Being farmed in HQ by an spa is going to be the new meta
okay, now attack omaha allies fourth cap
In that regard they should be the open top vehicles yeah. Like the Hummel, Priest etc
Which fourth cap? We are a battlefield rip off now. Conquest or nothing.
I know. And I’ll say it another dozen times till it’s done xD
Why can't they just give up on this failed spa experiment...
I dont see the issue.
as I suggested before.. HQ arty should have limited range up to mid point and if team wants to use arty beyond that SPA sould be deployed.. in the exp branch settings it does not really make sense to use SPA.. it's expensive and time consuming
Me, being a scholar and a gentleman, prefer to call them open back
I’m not arguing with you about this again.
Im just saying
The only thing worse than SPAs as we have them, are open top SPAs
Though most here would agree we shouldnt have SPAs at all anyway...
No, coz you make only the gun slots open
You can hunker inside and be impervious to small arms
Arty gun can be built further forward. What of offensive mode. Do devs play the game at all???
What you mean is recon kills you and hides in your own SPA whilst you cant get him out
:}
Mmmh the HQ is ripe for harvesting.
SPAs your next stream? Surely that would be fun to watch
No they can't go in. And you've got an OP nearby, if you're playing super safe you've also got a driver inside who can just drive away
I'll ride your SPA any day. - and thats not a euphemism, I sat atop your SPA during the testing 
So you block people with a magic wall so they cant climb in?
If the devs really don’t want to put in the work and do open top SPAs (which they were in the real war mind you) then they shouldn’t exist in the game. Period.
Just make the current ones SPGs (which it seems like they’re sort of doing which is a good start) and keep arty for Commander abilities. Boom, problem solved.
yall what if
we had half-tracks that can be used as accual infantry transport/support
AND then we would have these "command" vehicles that would be the mobile garrison that we already have?
I made this a suggestion a year ago
I thought you mean occupy the slots not physically climb the vehicle. Sure they can climb on but it's not like they become invincible
If you want to see it. Put a lot of effort into that one.
That falls into the same categorie as bar and FG bipods.
Fun but not that usefull
Yeah they're a weird halfway implementation rn
this really is the only thing that is bugging me
like let me drive into battle in a sweet sdkfz.251
I mean, they do this weekend. 😄
Sure, but its just the old recon arty loop slightly different.
the economics of this game makes this impossible as Half-Track costs 300 fuel whereas Medium Tank costs 200.. HF can be easily destroyed and there is rarely any fuel left for HF.. on top of that anyone can drive it and blueberries just looooove to spawn on HF and take it for a ride
Suggestion. Give the arty crews 4 rockets each just to help defend against the recon tanks that attack them.
(4 rockets because 1 will randomly ric or non pen, 1 will have a hit reg issue and 2 more so they can miss without feeling bad.)
If it was a default spawn and it had its armor buffed this wouldn’t be an issue
The point is that the arty is not in the HQ and the nearby spawn can be taken out. So, problem solved
On their overtime rate
(not counting the hq arty they did keep..)
ITS THE SAME PROBLEM
The only thing solving it would be getting rid of it
Which they should have done years ago
No? The problem was that you have to move to far from the action and spawn camp an indestructible spawn
Ok so what do you do after killing the crew assuming the gunner is dead?
Jump out or stay inside?
OGT could do the funny thing, and get the dev team on board for their sunday match. Just put them in meatgrind. It's gonna be fine.
The driver has to either drive back into HQ (where you will spamkill his mates from inside the SPA) or he drives you to a garrision which is even worse
what if we assigned vics
like the commander spawns a tank only for a certain squad
with half-tracks it would get tricky tho
Poor events and comp orga having to deal with crazy decisions outtta no where
You as in the driver who's safe inside? You ask your team for help, or try to kill him with your squad when they respawn from the OP
Dude randoms cant even kill a someone on a tank without cover
And getting close to your OP comes with the same issue as the garrision
I think you're making up a problem by now
Im talking about the same thing the whole time
There's satisfying counterplay happening for both sides the entire time
Something else would be that recon and light tanks would kill you even easier...
Even the luchs could kill a for example priest
That's why they were positioned behind the front lines and not inside them xD
the church would be shocked
Wallah kirchensteuer would be increased
But you bavarians already pay less :{
Damn you lynx, taking nomnom bites out of the local priest 
wut?
I believe it is not possible with the way the game is programmed
just leave the church, and you dont care about that anymore.
As opposed to now, what, it's gotta be some lone guy with rockets or satchel who sneaks up and instakills the whole thing, or a recon tank.. And they don't play all too well as arty or direct fire guns because they've landed in this awkward middle ground
Its only 8% in bayern and baden-würtenberg, whilst its 9% everywhere else
so since Static Arty can be moved forward, are we going to see Static Arty Wars? 😄
Okay, can someone summarise for me how good the arty changes are?
Don't understand the artillery system well enough to understand the dev blog properly
the arty is still in the game so not really
Arty changes are still bad
SPA changes are good
Flare changes are supreme
mortar sub-class for the arty squads?
i think it would go hard
I didn't notice flare changes, please tell me they're now only resupplied on timer
Are they so afraid of removing HQ Arty so they don't upset the handful of people who plays them?
Yes
that's what it suggests just like a supply box
*Mortar instead of the arty
Well let's see.
- Arty can now resupply from a nearby munitions node.
- Static Artillery can be built anywhere in the first two sectors of their teams side of the map.
- Static Artillery can't shoot through walls.
- SPAs have been made more into SPGs, just with semi-indirect fire (which is a semi positive I suppose)
- Artillery crews by default now wear standard Infantry uniforms. A lot better.
Awesome, rockets next please
probably lots of women involved in the game 😄
Kek you might be hitting too close to home
Welcome to modern society. Everyone acts like women even when they're not. 
Oh no I am very aware of the state 😄
Not like those people arent already mad
I mean yeah they made it less fun for a single arty player.. he cannot start swapping seats while reloading and have to beg commander for resupply 😄
@finite berry Forgot to include number 5
(apart from the model) is there any difference between the M1A1 and M1928 (horizontal and vertical grip) Thompsons?
so... I read the arty will be buildable just in the 2 first lines... yeah that's better than all blue/neutral territory
still, should be the mortars, not arty guns
now the arty will be possible to be placed even as little as 500m of each other (I mean enemy arty and friendly arty)
doesn't make any sense of having arty guns and not the mortars
nor historical, nor logical
I like what they did with the effect of ammo node on the arty, however there should be more effects and not just to the arty, for all the nodes - get them useful on the frontline
the same as the ammo node will now be refilling slowly the artillery shells,** the manpower nodes** could the same way be refilling the local tickets stored inside the spawnpoints
I think one set of nodes would be enough no need for 3 sets.. reduce the ability to build only one node per engineer so more people can farm XP
and finally make buildables build faster with less resources needed.. building a single level 3 barricade should not take 2 minutes or so
Nodes need to just be removed
They're never going to rework them into anything interesting, and right now they're just a chore
look at Over the top WWI building stuff can be actually fun and useful nobody builds schaize in HLL
but I guess they don't want to do that because having more entities on the map would crash the server 😄
just like guns
i hate them
had one sneek into my arty squad yesterday
went straight to the gun and stopped talking
kicked ofc, but he lived quite some time
They're fairly crucial to an FPS though
yes, "right now"
it doesn't have to be jsut a chore in the future though
wdym future
right 😄
They're never reworking nodes to be interesting
but see... they already did one thing for the ammo node for the arty
could be easily just a 1st step
Even that isn't interesting
Oh we have nodes, I guess I'll just move my arty gun to be near the node
nope, more like build arty gun 1st, then the node near it
I rarely see games with an artillery gun built
So anyone who does build it is just going to build it near an existing node
I however still fear the best arty position will stay the HQ - people will probably willingly accept possibility of being spawncamped for as long as they can respawn right next to the gun on a spawnpoint that can't be destroyed... a HQ spawnpoint.
So people are used to build nodes and now the arty squad cannot build it near them because there is a limit
I mean, meta is still going to be placing the artillery gun and near your infinite 10s HQ spawn 
We'll find a way to break it
Irrelevant changes, because people in here write half thought ideas which would be good in a different game
Quarter thought out
Don't give them that much credit
and they also set flare gun cooldown so you cannot easily remove the HQ camping recon anymore 😄
Also, with being able to build the arty in the two 1st lines... those forward arty will be able to reach enemy HQ to spawnkill... or?
Rostering someone as chief node builder because the effect stacks each time you build the node or something
WHAT
Can't wait for rotatating recon SL's
Oh PLEASE let this be the case
Imagine utah beach but now the artillery just lands in your boat
it likely is
simply forbid any squad placing spawn in the HQ sector unless the team is winning 4:1
Omaha offensive gonna be lit
that's too much of annoyance nobody will be doing it all game unless you're German clan
I am sure the T17 devs didn't think that far to prevent all those stupid situations, to make the system bulletproof. More like broken as F.
Gonna take 3 working days to get off that beach
I can see the next HLL tiktok
THIS GAME IS SO REAL ARTILLERY HIT ME AS I CAME OUT THE WOMB
I was refering to the potential lunacy of comp vs pubs in this case
There is nothing about changing the arty range in the devBrief, so we may assume they can rly reach enemy HQ spawn area.
yeah edit that does not apply to German clans
Maybe they can win a real tournament this time 🫂
more to espt
hmmm so just like in WoT you try to spot the arty so your arty can spam theirs 😄
ESPT don't need to rotate their spotters when they're running Airbags on defence
One man defense. Rumor has it he's never lost a cap
or the printer.
Bro it's not ESP he just got a new monitor and did some aimlabs and no he can't record his gameplay his mum said it's not allowed in his house
shame I won't be able to witness that s??tShow tomorrow... as usually I am gone for the Friday and most of Saturday 🥶
hopefully someone will make some stream or vid upload
Hello. Im new at this game, so sorry if i said something not right, i just want someone to help me how play.
How i understand i need find 'divission' to play with them? Where i can find them?
Divisions are just clans/communities. You don't need one to learn/play the game. But if you want to join some, feel free to browse : #1343090646168240199
TFW 105mm he is the same as magical casting fireball.
hello
I uppered my kiils to 20

I lost the Game because the enemy invadet our point in the EXACT second we would've won
Now we are loosing all points
Where do you send in applications?
For what?
I got banned cus my team were a bunch of pussys that just cant take the truth
I'm sure you're a really reasonable person
For abuse they said
Did you get vote kicked 
Banned for 1 hour
Pretty sure they wore the field gray panzer uniforms due to then being in the artillery arm
Like with the STUG crewmen
I just made a enemy tank squad leave the game after we killed their heavy in their HQ, we were at 40m with the engine off like a prop and they didnt even notice and gave their as to us XD.
Then they respawned in the medium but since they didnt hop in waiting for us to go we just smoke and falled back, and as we fall back we hear an Stuka, the commander launched a Precision Strike to our old position and destroyed their own medium tank.
And then they spawned a medium tank to try hunt us in the other HQ but they didnt saw us and passed at our side and we got their engine again
Awesome hahaha
where can i report a HLL official server admin abuse
its about HLL official server #5 where there is an admin teamkilling and calling explosions on players etc, unkickable and can type in red bubble tekst
There are no admins on Official servers. Just sounds like there is a cheater on. Leave and go play on community servers
but red chat is for admins right>?
he was in the game but not in the tab playerlist
in the end
No idea what you mean by typing in red chat
but no, there are no admins on official servers
peak hll experience
probably means Command-Chat, since the names are red.
"type in red bubble"
No text chat for command chat
theres also no bubbles crit ^^
it was like how a little blue is visible for teamchat
there was a little red visible yeah
yeah
for gobbo that could be the end at some point tho :}
Play on community not official.
Divagree
who is that diva and why do so many bring her up here
As for reporting on official: https://support.team17.com/hell-let-loose/en/articles/316972-reporting-a-player-on-hell-let-loose
Try with . At the beginning 😉
Keep in mind you agreed to the rules and if you break you can get in trouble 🙂
community also has its problems
Don't have to deal with hackers in community, if you do it's barely and you can report them to the server owners.
Are you saying and/or doing bad or mean things?
while it is normal when someone gets you killed
a commander killing your team 3 times
ofc, didnt you read his message before
Nah I am on my phone sooo don't always scroll up all the way
oh wait that wasnt even him
while not communicating
About to drive home from work
sorry
i got banned from PBS servers because i told people off for not building garrisons, a commander that didn't communicate. and friendly fire
Well TK will do that
might have been the way you phrased it...
You shouldn't even if someone else started it
:}
people on community servers are softer
Lmao maybe don't be toxic
well if they are ignoring requests and not working as a team resulting in the enemy overrunning us easy
and then not changing after asking them to
i feel entiteled to call them what they are
you can complain, but not in a unhinged way
thats subjective
they are entitled to not wanting you on their server then :}
firstly perma ban is not the right response
just a hint: you will miss out on almost all of the good servers that way
nope
k
most decent people will listen to tips
no one banned you for tips tho :D
they banned me because i tell it as it is
i'm dutch
we tell you if you are being a ...........
i mourn for what people playing will become
will happen on other servers too
commander that doesn't communicate gets kicked by the team from official server
squad-leaders that don't place garrisons and ignore commander request and don't communicate get kicked from official server
everyone gets kicked on official
so many community games are lost because the 1 side does have teamwork and the other doesn't
for any or no reason at all
I would kick myself on official servers
The life of playing any 50v50 tactical team type game lol
Why the f**k are there NO OFFICIAL SERVERS like very time?
people actively contributing nothing to the team should know they are a waste of space lol
there are a few but way to few for what would be healthy
I think they know LOL but some are also new
new players i don't have a problem with
simple reason: no one actually wants to play official
they should be open to hear tips
But like literally why? There are around 6k people playing HLL at the moment. All the time I can see up to 3 servers if I see any because often there are none. All the time game has bugs like I'm senidng invite to a friend who dosen't receive it. Wtf is the problem? Are devs even caring about the game at this point?
because they need to hide behind the !admin reports
Nobody play official server
for a reason
yea totally, no one wants to have their game session ruined by people like you after all
if you are wasting space in the server where someone who will actually benefit the team could be
good riddance if i could kick you
But people can't even play offical servers if they don't show up. I literally have situations such as I can see and join a server which isn't seen by my friend
It depends on the scenario I think. New player nah they are trying to learn. Someone griefing? Yea kick them
thats ok, you are the only one who cares :}
Playing on official server is choosing the worse experience
but if you guys like it...
like your PFP you are most likely a princess who can't face the facts that you are playing badly. I have had that happen a few times when starting to play. but i listened to others and got better because of it
Don't play on em lol
I'm not liking it cuz we literally can't join them. But every time we join community servers we are kicked after 5 seconds
you have people that still don't know that the game is about spawns
I wish I would be that good looking
Willles is a pretty princess 🥺
What is wrong with this game, I don't get it
Yea
in our hearts
It be like that, sometimes you get really good even matches and sometim3s you dont
i've never seen an even match on community since its usually lower skill level on average
some community server for princesses that don't like it when someone tells them to shut it and listen for once should stille exist ofc. but more official servers need to be available to the normal person who wants to play this game like it was meant to be played
community servers are ruining the identity which is HLL
gobbo is very creative with baits
he really remembers every day to drop some
Polish servers be pretty chill, even tho I don't speak polish
true
had a commander that spoke english to me when he needed to adress me
but polish to the others
Never had issues with community servers, just individual players
i have more a problem with admins on community servers
oh, it does happen that admins have a bad day and some are special
but yea its rare
Im pretty new to the game so i can't say I have any problems with the community
people are getting to soft
Other than some TK'ers I haven't encountered anything on that regard
TK'ers you will find everywhere
hahaha
and also some people complaining in chat but that's every game to ever game
you have complaining and you have schifting blame
people blaming the commander while not building garries themselfs are one of those people protected by community server admins
if you say something back they report you
while it was their negligence
good thing
Videos in #hll-videos plz 😉
Idk maybe I guess, i just hop on to play and have fun idc if im winning or losing or if someone sucks at the game
Clearly you like to play a certain way. Let's keep the toxicity down in here.
yeah but if you are playing squad-leader and the commander asks you to build a garrison close to where you are
you would build it?
how is it fun to you when yor team fails hard?
I mean yea it sucks that im losing but I still get kills thrn just go into thr next match and hope for the best
Do what you can and do whatever your squad can and etc etc
Yes? If possible?
Don't get me wrong i like winning but if you only have fun if your team wins are you truly playing out of enjoyment or just because you wanna win.
I liek the funny headshot sounds
nothing wrong with losing if the team tried
Agreed.
I have had great games but loss.
Agreed
I can agree with this yea lol. So far I havent had any full blown like blown out the water games
But still time for anything o guess lmao
but thats the problem i have with community servers. a decent amount of times people don't try
What servers are you playing on? Almost all community servers ive played people are trying
I guess it also probably depends on the game mode too
Me personally I play only offensive
this must be gobbo
no one ever thought official servers have a better player base
not better playerbase, just a means to get leeches out of the match
I say we riot
I suspect you're an awful player tbf
i'm average
sooo
what an opinion
so your understanding of the game is that not building garrisons is the new meta>?
I play commander most of the time
ill keep that in mind if i see you in a match sometime. ill know to not even try to have a good game since you will call airstrafes on friendly troops
All right you two. Let's move on. 
Eh, last time I played there I got kicked for winning in their training events
its a team game
Ain't no way my guy is criticising people
lol that you even think that matters tells more then words could
imma just interject and say wr in a 50v50 game is never affected by a single person
do you know that winrate isn't a single guys performance? lol
in like enlisted maybe sure, but not hll
best gun in game?
Deleting the guys win rate is crazy 
If you wanna be toxic in here, take it else where.
You didn't need to do that nor pester the guy.
i do thank you for showing us you know nothing about the game by thinking winrate is an solid comeback
My alt account has a WR of 74% btw. So not even playing with friends, just solo, usually commander. It's absolutely possible to ensure you win more
m1 garand
i need to use that more often
recently i've just been using smg's to try get assaulter levelled up
One player can do a couple chores per game and they'll boost up their WR pretty quick
Like learning a couple basic garrison networks for a map will get you some wins pretty easily
its just simple aim with that gun
in cities yeah
i heard its a one shot even to legs right?
One shot from knee to head up to 200m, including arms and hands
but even in close range 1 shot from the grand or any other standart privaat weapon will kill faster
funny how you came around to supporting my point.
Nah, you're still bad
semi-autos are prolly the best weapons in the game
german assault rifle is good
stg44 yeah
i wonder if the BAR is any good, need to get around to using it again
don't under estimate the suppression effect
It's the same damage as STG
i never used the BAR but not a lot of people do
Just different visual recoil and smaller magazine
Suppression doesn't change where you aim btw. Bullet still comes from the middle of the screen when ADS, and the middle of the screen doesn't move when suppressed
You see some people try to fight suppression, but you're best just ignoring it
it makes if damn hard to see tho
blurry screen
Yeah for sure, but honestly if you're being suppressed from a distance then they're just missing so ignore them. If it's up close, just aim as normal and you'll be fine
i really wonder how badly gobbo must be off irl
true, but a lot of encounters take place at range
so i'd say suppression is pretty effective
supression is very handy to use
most good players also just spam some bullets in the direction of the enemy to supress them
and give teammates an easier way to relocate or attack
I mean, the actually good players mostly just hit the enemy and then they can't shoot back at all
i hate being on the other end of this
MGs can spray a bit if they fancy, but like, otherwise you're always better just actually hitting the target
it works well on people like critical sinds they underestimate it and keep their head poked out
easy kill
I'd post your stats again but apparently that's not allowed
you should play this game called csgo
there stats are actually an indicator of skill
you would feel right at home
😘
CSGO? You're a couple years out of date mate
It's okay, maybe you can get through a game without being kicked soon 🫂
and i hope for you you will watch some soulsnipers video's soon and start learning about the game
Oh mate
they are some good class video's
If that's the level you think is good 
I wouldn't even let him in my squad, let alone learn something 
KD is actually important to determine good players
In competitive that is
Casual games doesn't even counts
For any important stat
is there any difference (apart from the model) between M1A1 and M1928 Thompsons? (in HLL)
I believe one has less recoil, but not take me to seriously on that
I don't let anyone with less than level 80 and more than 150 ping on my squad
this reminds me how aweful the scoreboard is
@cunning crystal quit pretending to know what you are talking about, the things you send contradict it and it’s pretty funny
@past veldt quit being so pretentious, battaraofs advice is fine for new players and soul snipers videos are a good introduction
Everyone sucks ok
How how tf do I customize what my guy looks like i forget
do see on the right
you see the arrows on the name thing on left and right of class name?
click them
Thank-you
only on assault,rifleman, machinegunner and automatic rifleman.
All roles, including tank
Even the officer, has to defend their ground
No one is an engineer in competitive forto much time, Support is rotated each time it deploys resources and no one play medi
I'm not talking about casuals, casuals stats don't matter that much
Hello chat! 
Hello hello 
why flare cooldown 🙁
So recon to get off their redeploy addiction
but i like my flares
The first step is admitting you need help
the first step of getting that help is removing flare cooldown
Would you rather redeploy or shoot people
AHA
or how about they give us a cooldown but give recon an extra flare 😋
Now you're just double dipping
cant let that juicy reload animation go to waste 🙁
Making the flare a skill rather than a weapon seems like a good thing to me tbh
I suppose the personal node also reduces its cooldown to half
Because it’s disgustingly OP and should just be reworked so it doesn’t spot people
Litteraly seen artillery squads be locked and the officer just spam flares at the objective
Then that's gotta be on you because I the same as vast majority of peeps don't have a problem with them 🫤 , the rest are usually... the problematic sort who usually deserved the punishment and a veeeery small percentage who got punished by mistake or unjustly after a false report.
Like... I know that in pubs regardless if official or community there are many specific players who qualify as a "waste of playerSlots", but even then - you can't do anything about it. If you want to complain, say it just for yourself but not in the comms. If there is comm-less CMD who doesn't respond, report him to the admins.
And arguing with the admins is never a good idea unless you have a solid counterEvidence against the accusers against you. But even then, it's possible to deliver it in a civil way so they won't have a reason to take an action against you.
Then why have it
Because one day, the devs woke up with a feeling it would be a good idea. They were obviously wrong as they implemented it even worse.
I’d much rather it work like the OP for artillery squads. Have it affect artillery radius to be more effective and turn down the lights on night maps to make it a light source
Its so out of place in HLL as is it makes no sense
Yeah, and zero reason for having them on the daytime maps.
No, flares are definitely a cool mechanic to have in general
I normally prefer the milsim-y aspects of HLL over the arcade-y ones but flares are a good gimmick
HLL is an arcade milsim
It's not arcade either. More like casual. I call it a hardcore shooter with strong casual elements... or a casual oriented shooter with a few hardcore elements.
There is a difference between arcade and casual, as well as milsim vs hardcore. (although in case of flares it rly is a pretty arcade mechanics)
Actually when looking at it being able to kill with 1 shot is probably the only real hardcore element in it that matters. If it was an arcade, we would be bullet sponges. If it was milsim, the player damage model would be deeper, with various effects after being hit and to which part of the body. And some deeper medical system to heal. ...just an example. The same kind of logic goes to the tanks.
Fr casual players are like playing battlefield tho
And cod only ppl who have a little freaky sexual energy playing hll
You feel me? @analog apex
Battlefield/CoD is casual AND arcade.
That doesn’t exist
Those definitions completely counter intuitive of eachother
You cannot handle nuance
There is no nuance bimbo, it's like saying my math formula is positive negative, like tf?
He is right though
HLL is placed between Hardcore Games and casual Games
It’s basically a Hardcore game with strong casual Elements
You quite literally cannot handle nuance
Simplifying it to a mathematical equation is a manifestation of that fact
no
Brotha. I've been in this discord for 5 more years than you have. I'm not going to argue about some generic topic at 10 in the morning.
Every topic this channels seen in the past 4 months at least has been recycled time after time.
Arguing with some dude that has anime games labeled as his favorite isn't a morning activity I'll participate in 🥀
A personal attack isn't an argument btw
"muh but I'm not arguing" so you're just presenting yourself as an ignorant
Have I ever been normal?
There’s no nuance to the situation. A game is very solidly a MilSim or Arcade
Games can have casual or hardcore elements, but they can’t be arcade and MilSim
HLL is an arcade shooter with hardcore elements for sure
Your just didn’t use the label right
I did
You didn’t
I've seen both Squad and Enlisted described as hardcore shooters that label is just pointless
Why are you antagonistic lol
You're calling me stupid and now you're gonna act smug and pretend you're not blah blah
Obviously I know what a hardcore shooter is
Wow I literally called you'd act smug about it and I still can't believe it kek
😭
guys
I NEED advice on how to actually see people, pls somebody help me 🙏
Genuinely cannot understand how many people get like 500+ combat score (ive never gone past like 150)
You often hear them first. If it's a friendly weapon firing, he's shooting at an enemy. If it's an enemy weapon, well, you just found an enemy. Every small-arm has a distinct sound. If you stay near the big and noisy group of blueberries, you might as write "glass us from orbit" on your forehead
best thing is to slow down
just stand still somewhere and watch for movement
almost all long range spots i have is by seeing some pixels moving
taking your time to scan the horizon will get you more kills and makes you live longer
you also want to be with teammates since what he said. if your teammate gets shot you can get an indication from where he was shot
I'm not sure how you play but in my style I've had better luck with a kinda mix of both listening and watching for people like these two guys have said
your best friend for finding a pesty guy sniping you, is a dead friend with mic
Yeah, be with your squad, but not with blueberries. That's up to the officers and their OPs though, grunts cant help it if they place all their OPs next to each other. imo they should be separated by at least 100m, sometimes 200m or even 300m is good as long as the gap between is covered, like some valley on El Alamein
Yeah people can be pretty sneaky no matter what you do there might be someone waiting or watching
Is there going to be a separate discord for hllv or will it be mixed into this one?
From what I know the hllv chat will be mixed into this discord
aka #base-camp
There's already a section for talking about it
Will news about HLLV impact oil prices in any way?
Don't worry mate it just couple of days and we will send you oil to drink 😀
mod tools?
If only
Everytime you ask they delay them by a decade
Usually im that dead friend 😭
But at least i know what Im seeing isnt unique to me, i just dont have the ability to shoot pixels yet it seems
And yeah im still used to moving at faster paces so I guess you're right about slowing down
No way there's ever enough coordination for that OP placement lmao
if your team is smart with their placement OP's and garrisons can be used like an UAV rader detection system
you can see from which way enemies are attacking the point from the spawns going red
@real parrot i wondered with resource nodes reducing the cooldowns of boxes, do people place nodes closer to the frontline in competetive to make more use of the cooldown reduction or do they still place them safer at the backlines?
They are being build in HQ and then left alone
what does the second last word In ur bio mean it's the only word I don't understand there
Weiß?
yes
That me joking how terrible saxon accents are
oh lol
is that weird letter pronounced like a t by chance
nah its called sz and you say it like that
I see
was
*Wie bitte
häh
Does anyone know when the roadmap with juno and canadian forces is dropping? Cheers!
Hello my friends
Most leagues forbid destroying nodes, so they are buiilt in the HQ in the first min of the game
box cooldown also doesnt matter you just rotate players dropping
Seriously? Would think that it would only be protecting by a rule that you can't camp them
No, there's no coordination, just simple guidelines that every officer should follow.
Does anyone know when the roadmap with juno and canadian forces is dropping? Cheers!
The severs make no sense
There’s twenty slots open, but I have to wait for a queue to join?
Coming later this year 🙂 Will share more info post Patch 19.1
Rotating spotters on cooldown 🔥
Okay! Im excited
You can't destroy nodes, but you can camp HQ, its usually useless to do so anyways
+-+
They should follow, indeed they should
Nice
cooldown gameplay
radius gameplay
put box within radius and wait for cooldown gameplay
Can you reset the flare cooldown by rearming from an ammo box
How does someone join the playtest?
Better than redeploy gameplay and you know it
two sides of the same coin
Chum when other games have box gameplay: 🎮
Chum when hll does the same thing: 🥱
On steam, right click on hell let loose in the left menu of your library, press properties, go tto game vresions and betas, and select experimental_branch
Thank you
*Chum when anything: 🥱
Sometimes also
Lol
Lmao even
Chum when anything hll
Chum when me: you don't even have the game
I forget whats the next map being added to HLL?
Devs trying to innovate HLL gameplay: "can we instead just change the number value of a slider in the engine?"
Pacific
Ooo
(just kidding)
Juno beach is being added!
Thats lit!
Between this and over the top ww1 I have been having a blast
I’m so excited spotters aren’t jus gonna be flare boys
They can rotate into playing support and take a life as free tanks
On rotation
You know I am an atlantic man
maybe we should get a Battle of the Atlantic map in hll
Hell Let Loose Medieval
with bows and swords and shit
on boats
fair point, lets not have that
How about this: HLL Japan but it's actually just in normal HLL
erm eu test server gone down
i just started playing legit like 45 mins ago, what are some things i should know
gangelangs
i just watched war machine and its freaking fire
even if its at some points unrealistic its fire
Well that is a shame that both experimental servers crashed 😄
Idk
then why bother answering
Btw when the flare is on the cooldown now, I was thinking that larger rework of the cooldown mechanic could be done. For example supply boxes could be resupplied from supply crates or drops as long as there is at least 50 in there... the flare gun should be able to resupply from explosive box as well otherwise it's on a cooldown..
epic submarine war
having garisons around points and for counter flanks is crucial
So do any of the nodes effect this flare cooldown?
just run bro are u lazy
you don't need garisons
pov the squad leads I get matched with
Well excuuuse me for trying to help
ur not even helping with answering ''idk''
Dont play on official server
but its true no?
Use the microphone to ask ingame.
Hope those that joined enjoyed yapping with some of the devs though
hope you all have great weekends and make sure you give your feedback here! 
🔗 Feedback Form: Patch 19.1 Feedback Form
🐛 Bug Form: Patch 19.1 Bugs Form
nobody built any but it probably should
that said, if you have any ideas around what nodes could affect it let us know!
Why not remove its spotting capabilities and just have it increase artillery accuracy + light up the area?
Then we wouldn’t need a long cooldown (maybe)
Ain't no world in which we building nodes on the front line
So we just got mortars without getting mortars?
I just got a new Mouse mat, I wouldn't think a think so small could be so noticeable
i used to just use a piece of paper as a mouse pad lol
until like, today
Damn, mine was literally falling to pieces, I got one that costs like 18 since I'm upgrading my setup anyways, I didn't expect for it to be like, that comfy
Apparently someone asked when mortars would be in HLL and Ben said “wait for Vietnam” so….
I had a mousepad for like 2 years, but ended up going back to playing straight on the table. Didn't see any noticable gain except a thing that gets dirty and needs cleaning
mod tools?
That’s Not understandable. I know how a Business works, they are now in the cash cow phase where the product just needs to sell but doesn’t change much anymore before it will be abandoned, but people asked for mortars for years
It was even on the old roadmap
If the mousepad you're using is terrible, sure, but a nice mousepad makes an insane amount of difference
Difference in what?
Cause fps wise didn't matter for shet. A complete placebo unless you're playing on some rough af table
A difference in how the mouse moves, and usually more importantly, how it stops
- If your Squad Lead gives you any orders please listen to them, especially if it's fall back and defend.
- This game is punishing in the fact you typically die within 1 shot, try not to W key run everywhere. If you're in an area with known enemies keep your head on a swivel.
- If you take engineer please make nodes your top priority at the start of match, if you notice mid match that your team is missing 1 of the 3 sets and you haven't built nodes yet, build them. Your commander will love you.
- Your K/D ratio doesn't matter. Redeploying can mean a win or a loss.
- Communicate, even if you don't have a mic there is text chat for the team and squad. Communicate the best you can.
Those are the basic ones I can think of at the moment. I would also suggest watching videos on YouTube. SoulSniper makes great guides. This game has a learning curve, but once you learn the game it's pretty fun. Always ask if you don't know, hopefully your squadmates will help you. This game community can be helpful at times, but there are some pretty toxic people at times.
not everyone uses 3ft x 3ft worth of space to move their arm to aim
Some of the mouse pads will give you a load of friction which naturally stops the mouse, allowing for slightly cleaner movements. Glass ones are the opposite and are super smooth to move around on. To say mousepads make no difference is crazy tbh, but if you're using an office mouse and a table thinking it's fine, then i guess you're not likely to notice 😄
Me neither. My mouse pad is vertical to allow it fit onto my desk 😄
You can get small high quality mousepads anyway.
I hope you understood that "no difference" means "no noticeable difference for the VAST majority of users".
Ofc there's a noticeable feel difference, but unless you're actually one of 'em folks that sit around and "train" their aim in like Kovaaks following Aimer7's guides or something, chances are it's not going to be noticeable to a point where it'll change your game.
Basic things such as just getting a mouse that fits your palm or simply having a heavier or lighter mouse are going to be noticeable things for a everyday user.
And if you can notice a heavier or lighter mouse, you'll notice the mousepad working for or against you. If you're someone sitting down to play an FPS, you'll be spending enough time with your mouse to notice the difference between the textures. The difference between one mousepad and another similar one... sure, they're not going to feel it, but they'll absolutely notice the difference between their wooden desk and a mousepad
I work with a 65yr old guy who can barely use his phone. He brings a mousepad to work because he doesn't like the feel of it on the desk 😄
John J. Rambo:
- Don't play official servers
@worthy charm He hurt my feelings plz ban
lmfao
nah
but fr dont play on official servers
Blocked
Yeah, getting the right sensitivity is important... but i don't think this image is thinking people are going to be using an F tier desk surface and a £2 mouse
Sheesh. bro really loves official servers and hates offensive
His loss lol
If you're going to spam it, can you fix the first sentence?
bro is very adamant indeed
You can share your feedback in #1098158460463480842 if you're afraid of it getting lost 🙂
I wish Abu would
yo
What do you love about official servers
On a side note, what's your steamid just want to check you out on the bunker discord real quick
That's not your SteamID
Do you believe anyone from T17 is working right now?
Does he believe T17 gives a sh it if he keeps spamming this
Holy moly is John J. Rambo
Stop it
You are the least fun person to exist
46 mods in here with no issues
God forbid I say ONE thing to not have you harassing folks for their stats or look them up in bunker. 🙄
He can harass me for my stats if he wants ❤️
Like this guy was going to give me his steam id
He's stuck on repeat
oooooooooooh, account rveal
0% win rate
And 0% loss rate simultaneously 😏
Breaking mathematics thanks to your dogmatic approach to gameplay
You're late
i'm right on time
what's even more strange is you wouldn't play it even if you were gifted it
the story of being too invested into another game that can't even semi-reliably fill up one server at any given moment isn't a convincing one
You know what I like?
Caracals?
U 👉 👈 😏
the second UE crash and config restart from the latest patch.. never happened before.. jesus christ please save this game
Wait whaaat
Share in #hll-videos please! 🙂
Thanks 
Is anyone trying to play
no
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Does anybody have a particular role they dislike playing more than any other? And why? For me it’s gotta be machine gunner, I am absolute buns at setting up a good vantage point for machine gun fire
I'd agree. I never find a good spot 😅
The moment I pull the trigger I get a dinged 😭
whenever i die, i get up to 130 fps as opposed of 90 fps on my laptop. Anyone know why that is?
Like in the menu or when simply knocked out so to say? @ionic tundra
knocked out
im hoping theyll optimize the game more so when im actually up i can get higher fps
it doesnt matter on my desktop but my laptop only has a 4070
My guess would be that since the camera is pointing up in the sky it is reducing the amount of things that it needs to render (due to the direction you're facing) and/or reducing the models LOD thus increasing your fps
interesting, that would make sense
Made the mistake of thinking I'll just join a random server since the one I normally play on was dead.
Just a tiny bit of racism. 🤏
Would be wonderful if PC HLL had just normal game servers like console. Where you just play the game 😅
So you're implying that people in pc hll servers don't just play the game?
You think playing on unmoderated servers will have less racism?
I'm stating that having what's essentially the "start the game" option in the menu open a server list full of ques and garbage servers instead of having it load you into a game like it does on console makes the PC experience horrible.
What makes a server a garbage server from the server browser?
Real easy fix; automoderate text chats in PC servers hosted by the company (If the option to 'start' the game was the same as console)
Exactly... I mean I don't know of a single game ever with perfect moderation
The only closest ones are, usually are just community ran servers with active admins, which has like nothing to do with the game, but the community and people within it
In my house, monopoly has zero racism. Not sure about yours
I had a good experience with the first server group I've been playing on. But they were dead tonight so I had to go on another to simply play the game.
I am new to HLL on PC, I've played a lot on Xbox. My first server group was fantastic, nice community. The second was literally just a text chat attempting to re-live black ops 1 like slurs are going out of style.
I just don't understand why there cant be a server browser seperate from a set amount of 'official' game servers. PC people need to just stop being nerds.
Because the official servers are just a worse experience...
I don't get what's your problem with the server browser...
You can legit find whatever you want in there perfectly fine. And no matter if there's a browser or not, you're still going to meet idiots online. It's completely irrelevant of the server browser or game you're talking about
Community servers usually have some admins for this stuff. You get less cheats. You get some custom features
Glows was the first I hopped on, actually have been having good experiences there. The one I was on tn was "Current Level: America First". In hind sight I should've maybe taken a sec but
Glows and whatever else are NA servers iirc?
Yes
Cause, I can't think of a single community on the EU side where stuff like this would fly.
Ofc, there are times of day when maybe admins aren't on and won't take your report within a milisecond, but overall, these communities are clean.
Like circle, exd, 82, pbs etc.
And I have a hard time thinking that on the NA side it would fly, since y'all even more butthurt about it usually.
But again, it's irrelevant of continent as well. Idiots are everywhere
The US servers have a lot of 'but muh free speech '
Glows do a good job moderating it but seems to attract 40 N words a day
I nevber said get away with server browser. But just having a streamline "play the game" it tosses you into a game. Like it does on the official console servers. Would be fantastic for the people that don't want to deal with having to find a specific community to play within. The only reason not to do it when it's done on other platforms. From my point of view; is the company doesn't want to spend the money on the servers.
But even if you want to go on official servers which have absolutely 0 moderation, you can still do it? And it's insanely easy via the server browser as well?
I've actually not seen anything too bad in text chat in glows. That's what I've been playing the past week since starting on PC. Granted I haven't been playing long.
It's not like you're configuring your F18C in DCS World. It's a freaking server browser, they've been around since cs 1.6
Not hard to have basic automoderation. Which from my understanding the game kinds does already? Maybe? Or it may just be server specific settings.
official servers have nothing. 0. NIL
Not a crazy concept to have a game start the game when you press 'play'. Been around since games have been invented.
This game has survived this long solely due to the communities
Kinda wild imo but good to know
I mean yeah, some form of quick match has been around in many games over the years, even the ones that have community ran servers.
But your chances of getting in a decent, moderated community server will be even less than if you were to choose it on the server browser.
Cause you're adding randomness to it.
Instead if you pick a name, play on it, if it's bad, leave it.
And if it's good, you can favourite it, check it in your history tab, remember the name or whatever else.
And then you always come back to the same place that you enjoy.
If the issue is the server being low pop during the day or whatever. Then just find multiple servers such as that one.
Like I go from circle to exd, to 82 to pbs. Whatever's full I can go play on and have fun.
Then you can sort it down even smaller depending on what servers have what map rotations, or maybe have votemap plugins or other commands you like.
For example, I like to play on Circle cause I get infinite free vip due to good performance each match.
My whole beef is when I finally get my daughter to bed on a Friday night at 8:30pm I need to sit around in 7 different queues to get into a game I paid money to play.
I haven't experimented too much with servers, as I said. Glows was the first one I hoped on, had a good exprience. Been playing it for almost 2 weeks now. They had some server issues, servers ended up being dead I tried ONE other server. Was absolute doggy.
You don't though
If you have any ball knowledge, you might know of a old-ish game called Battlefield Heroes.
It ONLY had quick-match.
Every time you pressed it, you were just #pray-ing that you'd get in a good server.
The game had 3 distinct classes, but 1 was severly more overpowered if played properly.
Some servers had plugins that straight up kicked you, if 1 of the classes was over a certain amount.
So imagine that. You press quick match, it finds a server, you load in, get a instant kick and have to re-do that process.
When I search servers based off ping for me; I do.
The first 20 are 0/100
I don't remember the last time I joined a server with a 6 person queue
Use the filters?
I have even played on NA servers sometimes. When I wanted to play in the morning. Ping was around 170, but didn't stop me from top scoring at all.
You can set a minimum player count to say, 60, and then sort by ping
Ima peep it quick bc im curious
So maybe if the NA communites are full (which I have no clue of honestly) check EU servers as well?
And this is probably the absolute worst time of day too. So any other time it'll be better than what you see
Kinda sorta a bad situation but Im using my computer on Wifi in a basement suite so. Could also be a factor
EU isn't awake. NA is going to bed
I wouldn't normally be on RN, it's 2am for me lol
Ye
I went to battlemetrics to check the US servers and I see one that had "Employed gamers only" in the name pepega
Did this, and the first server with no que is the one that may as well be branded as a nazi rp server. Then there's one with no que and the next 4 have full queues. And the servers after those are getting into 200+ms
Does mean you've got an option that isn't the nazi RP server though. As I said, it's the worst time of the day to try it
I honestly don't think I've queued for a server in like 3 or 4 years though
Maybe I've joined one with like 1 or 2 in the queue
Mhm, I'll peep it again tomorrow once I'm not watching the little one. I didn't realize you could sort off a min player count as well.
It's a shame they didn't do a range
I'll usually filter out some maps I don't enjoy as well
At least it's something, I've been sorting off ping and finding the first one(s) that aren't completely dead..
Guys, I'm not sure, but are paratroopers planned for future updates?
There Are already multiple Para uniforms
i definitely don't see it in the future
They wont be coming, that’s confirmed
I mean on what Maps except maybe SMdM and SME would a Jump be historically accurate? There are Maps where paras fought in but they never landed there
The Fallschirmjäger wouldn’t Jump at all
Since when do they care about historical accuracy :D
skybox is very low, your plane-to-ground-time would be 0-3 seconds on some maps 
That’s the thing, barely
Nah, it was more of a joke
They are not that historically inaccurate that they'd just spam paradrop layers everywhere
I would hope so
How much fuel did you get back when you dismantle leftovers of destroyed vehicles? Was it like set amounts or like % of veh cost?
I think it was either flat rate or flat 10%
Air head is technically paratroopers
Yeah, but no cool deployment
ya
Unpopular opinion but remove airheads
hi
Hello
Remagen: 🥹
That map gets more crossings anyways so
We still have to see properly how it plays out
If the crying about the bridges is warranted or not
10% imo
gives no score for the salvager tho
always fuel, even for spas
(the wreck is often more valueable as cover)
Its so funny destroying the wrecks that are used as cover by blueberries in that moment
They often dont even understand what happened, even after they ate a 30-06
what's yalls average kills In a hll game
Just returned and watching the yesterday's stream... so the answer to the question if the mortars are coming, the answer was "they are coming in HLL: Vietnam" ... seriously? 😡 We don't care about HLL:V, we care about HLL1 here.
5 billion
I certainly wasnt happy with that answer
0
1.3 kills per minute in average... so every minute in a match at least one kill (AVG)
100% accuracy tho
30 to 40
Where did you watch that
hllrecords
I "love" how Ben was hit by the high ping spike bug during the playTest match during his playtest stream.
They should honestly make it a priority fix as well, because it usually happens to half of the server's population and if the server has set pingLimit, it gets those players kicked for high ping.
sry mistook the question topic
In pubs 60 in comp 100
I think you meant it vice versa maybe?
beecause if you would get 100 in a comp, you would be bound to get much more in the pubs
Nope
I meant that
in pub 5 gorillion
in comp... I dont play comp...
it's not how it usually works though
Pubs are much shorter and if your SL isn't competent you may have no op most of the time
damn
true, but still... there are not that many that short matches
I only started playing a week ago after having the game for months
and I only average 14
Yo chat I love this game but need more advanced tips for being a medic
I only play comp now because the game is sht and when I play pubs I don't get to play long games
anyway, that's why telling KPM (kills per minute) instead of a killCount is much more accurate stat in this case
I'll check my kpm
oh wait you are a PS5 player... I don't think you have any stats saved anywhere
I believe the hllstats page is for the PCs only
We have
I have 0,73 but that is counting all my games since I started as I am not playing much lately i don't get it higher
aaah, right... I was searching for you under your other name
that's why I didn't find you
but your KPM graph is going upwards, so you are improwing, nice 🙂
I have no idea what my KPM would be in a comp match as I haven't played any in about 2 years now.
Is just that I don't play enough, I play only one game a week
Maybe 2
If you see my last games they are +70 kills comp games with 20 mins pubs between them
yeah I see
like -50
nah jk prolly 10-30 (i think idk)
Floppa kills then all
Schödingers accuracy
Thank you Sam
Good
It also often depends on the class, I had my highest kill game as a tanker, and after that sniper and assault
If you play something like officer or support you might not achieve those numbers because you have more important tasks than killing
I can only really enjoy a game as long as it provides the experience I am looking for
And HLL has lost that
Where is the stats page?
Thank you
It also often depends on the class
yeah ☝️ , usually when I play Spotter and the enemy arty is not active, I just spend the time searching for the nodes and garrisons, usually ending up with little kills, but pretty much of Combat score
how is the game not able to ban that AKAME guy?
the "game" can't ban anyone, only the admins can. And the admins are only on the community-hosted servers (official servers are not adminned by anybody), usually can act only upon a report.
why no anticheat?
there is, but that one is pretty useless from what I gathered throughout the HLL history
...
“HLL’s anticheat? It’s called swapping servers”
pretty stupid to not have a functioning anticheat
its not like this guy hides it at all
even tf2'shitty anti cheat would have detected this guy lol
if you see a cheater, you need to report him to the admins of the server you are playing at, and ofc. avoid the official servers as they aren't moderated by anybody
a lot of the newcomer's cheat accusations are however usually false accusations, so make sure you will deliver some evidence unless it's obvious/possible by other means (other players' testimonies / admins right in the server...)
everyone know akame
what server xD
that doesn't help, and as long as it's official server, then nobody will help with that
as I said - the official servers aren't moderated by anybody
the official servers are owned by the dev team, but they don't have anybody to watch over them
that's why you should just avoid the official servers, problem solved
Hmm
also, the statsTracker is tracking only on the community (nonOfficial) servers, so no way to find such player's ID even, especially if he's using a very generic name used by more players
What do you think, would it be better to just leave them as is or have power tripping volunteers as admins?
Cause obviously they're not going to pay anyone for keeping that stuff in order
its better if you just stop wasting your life playing on official servers
there can't be volunteer on the official servers, under the Team17 they would need to count as employees likely - to have a written contract with them as well
hi question
a side of the unit promoting. in #1343090646168240199
is it also allowed to promote an milsim platform for ALL units, To organise future events TvT between units
(its pretty new tho) ? its a neutral hub website for units/divisions 🙂
Some discord mod here, should be able to answer that... maybe @worthy charm or @gentle lintel ? Sry. for the ping guys but I see you are online.
Nvm., TehPolarBearr already responded meanwhile. #mess-hall message
thankyou
Also, volunteers without any contract and personal info could be very easy to become mods and possibly to powerAbuse the adminPower. Hence it's impossible to get admins to the official servers.
Posting messages in the honeypot channel is forbidden.
Delete that
Why should I. You can get the guy into trouble.
Especially if you would delete your messages asking him to do that 😄 .
Tbh if he reads the only message in that channel and still goes for it
Is there any chance hell let loose or HLLV comes to gamepass again?
I responded. He asked me earlier but I was busy at work.
No clue.
This isn't true btw. Akame can spoof EpicIDs and maybe EOSIDs.
They're working on it
There are actually bans put in place for a lot of cheaters through Easy Anti Cheat. They link into the barricade system, review the evidence, and then implement bans. But Akame is a different case to handle
Some longer time ago, I believe I reported a cheater along with evidence to the devs, but he kept being free and later I stopped watching him. Didn't feel like anything was done, but who knows... maybe they got him afterwards too? No clue. In any case I didn't get any memo regarding the admin action.
you know him btw?
I guess I never heard the name before. Is he some kind of famous cheater or something?
Yeah, he's known by server owners. If he joins a server and gets kicked, he will DDOS it. Qonzer stepped up their protection because of it
He usually just kicks about on official servers nowadays
There's piles of evidence for it, but as he can spoof the IDs, it's tricky
Guys my game froze for no reason when i was about to spawn into an OP
now it's ### my pc
You'll spawn in 20s
no im not
i know that bug
i get a new frame every minute or smth
well its not crashing
I cant close HLL
qwq
Type in chat?
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