#mess-hall

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echo karma
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Worms next guys

analog apex
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HLL's not dying though... sadly. I wish it died so something else and new/nextGen could take its place.

echo karma
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They push a dlc every update. They not gonna stop pushing dlc

nova pivot
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I'm okay with monetisation but please make the game playable first

kindred cosmos
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is this game actually dying lol

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i just bought it

echo karma
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It's trending downwards every update. I believe console is keeping it alive tho

kindred cosmos
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literally because bf6 was so terrible and looking for a more fun strategy shooter that isn't arma 3 hardcore

pine ember
kindred cosmos
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damn that sucks - really just looking for something similar to MAG from back in the day ps3

echo karma
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At any given time there's potentially 2k player on console maybe more

analog apex
echo karma
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If s44 wasn't so jank we'd just play that. Lotta dumb systems there tho

analog apex
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and if it was more detailed

kindred cosmos
echo karma
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Mostly the Stam system. Idk how it stayed

analog apex
kindred cosmos
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v squad based gameplay but still fun with lots of contact

echo karma
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Also wierd maps. Why make a 1:1 scale of iwo jima for 100p matches?

analog apex
kindred cosmos
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and lots of strategic roles, i think some of the devs from MAG ended up making planetside 2

echo karma
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Suppression is quite alot. More than squad no?

analog apex
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can't give a relevant feedback on that one, haven't played SQ44 for quite a while so unsure about the changes there if any

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and I also didn't play Squad

echo karma
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Played ps back when. Not buying s44. Squad is goated tho. Not in the realm of hll tho. More milsmy

analog apex
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PS is Squad44 - if you bought PS, you already have SQ44

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it got just renamed, that's all

novel geyser
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This game has been clinging on for dear life its somewhat surprising
I wouldn't say its a decline just kinda stagnant

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A very healthy player count as far as hardcore shooters go

kindred cosmos
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This game is so confusing lol, I've played 3 hours and haven't been able to kill anyone 😅 just seem to spent half the game chasing my squad mates around the map dying repeatedly

acoustic ravine
cosmic pilot
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The FPS controls in arma reforger are still ahh

kindred cosmos
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Great community

cosmic pilot
acoustic ravine
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❌

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i just got 65 kills in a match so please respect 🤫

cosmic pilot
acoustic ravine
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what does TFW mean , bro? 🤨

finite berry
cosmic pilot
finite berry
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It's normal to die at the beginning and not seeing any enemies

acoustic ravine
cosmic pilot
acoustic ravine
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i got the kills with the mg34

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you are just jeaolus of me bro

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that i am better than you

cosmic pilot
acoustic ravine
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its always me bro people always hate me bro

lime cypress
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i got 100 kills once after a year it flls good 😅

acoustic ravine
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with arty?

lime cypress
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No mg offensive full game

acoustic ravine
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okay bro you are cheating 🤣

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it is impossible

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100

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i played perfect and i only got 65

silk igloo
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its the attackers job to git gud and not be so easy to shoot with static mgs

acoustic ravine
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yeah but i have more kill than you, bro

real parrot
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Your team has won matches*

oak current
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My K:D is 50:1, just with bandages and no rifles

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I sharpen them bandages, till they are sturdy enoguh to act as melee weapons

real parrot
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My KD is 50000:1 by sitting on a tank and telling people what to do

oak current
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now thats soldering

real parrot
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No such thing as a "camper" in this game

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heh

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now thats funny, I would be camping on a tank?

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I would call it actually playing tank

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See thats the thing

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I actually play the objective by destroying enemy tanks

cosmic pilot
real parrot
tacit elm
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that means your team did the work for u lol

pine ember
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Sure, playing as Automatic Rifleman

keen glen
pine ember
echo karma
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Flamethrower go brrrt

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No flame tank kinda troll too

eager patio
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Hello,
Do people still play this game? 😮

real parrot
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I just had a game where I did 136 kills

finite berry
languid delta
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Can I enter playtests if I have the game on the epic store?

tacit elm
real parrot
tacit elm
real parrot
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Aja

past vortex
gray loom
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gonna get back into this game after like over a year and a half

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what's changed

real parrot
gray loom
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did they turn it into cod yet

real parrot
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Also they added more artillery

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And more comander skill, that are artillery

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And new vehicles, that are self propeled artillery

gray loom
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this sounds pretty cool

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will lil ol me survive in these trenches

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last time i was neck deep into this game was july 2024 so

real parrot
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Prob not, someone in a bush will shot at your feet and die

gray loom
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i just saw this youtuber with over 7000 hours and it made my pants brown

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him joining a game will shift the balance of the world like gojo

real parrot
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There is not much one person can do, even if its the best in the world

past veldt
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Luckily, he's not

wintry oasis
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Why’d my message get deleted

hollow bobcat
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i hope HHLVN will have 'advanced flight model' similar to Arma 3 and native hotas binding support, but i'm not gonna hold my breath 😐

real parrot
gray loom
real parrot
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If you gave me a photo I could prob pin point where it is on a map

gray loom
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theres levels to this i see

hollow bobcat
real parrot
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But again, there is not much you can do with it if you can't physically reach it

gray loom
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when do you gain the ability to see someone's heat signature

real parrot
real parrot
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You can make people glow in purple or some sht

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I wouldn't know tho I have AMD

gray loom
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imagine that guy's dreams

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with 290 days played

real parrot
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Yesterday I dream about playing Sand

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Sand so good I need it so bad

gray loom
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whats sand

real parrot
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Is an extraction shooter where you can build your own mobile walker that acts like your base

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Like building a battleship and then going to battle with it

gray loom
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sounds like something id get into when im old and grey

real parrot
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Huh

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I really like the building aspect

gray loom
real parrot
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I'm always the captain anyways

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I like to design war machines

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And walking dungeons

silk igloo
real parrot
past veldt
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Utah South map edge bunker near the US HQ on Offensive game mode.

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I/H8 border area

silk igloo
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ill have to check myself because it was a trick question, that pic is from ~2019 and im not sure if that asset still exists.

real parrot
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Then for sure is either Utah or Omaha

past veldt
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I'm pretty sure it's this

real parrot
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yup

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Could be reused asset tho

past veldt
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Skybox gives it away

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Very few overcast maps back then

silk igloo
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yeah, right you are. i cant recall that bunker being anywhere else, the stairs threw me off.

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i thought it'd be gone

past veldt
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I think it has had a something done to it

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or my FOV maybe is a bit different to yours or something

real parrot
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I'm going mad or do the stairs on the second image are less than the first one

past veldt
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its narrower

silk igloo
past veldt
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i think that is what is making it look weird

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Hurtgen V1 Radar tower

real parrot
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Its been so much time since I played that map

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I hate it

past veldt
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It's very boring for tanks

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Especially Siegfried

real parrot
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yeah, even Mortain is better

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That was a test

silk igloo
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wait, hurtgen already had a "facelift" for update 1, so technically there was two old hurtgens

real parrot
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I would say its Hill 15 since you can see the north part of the map

past veldt
real parrot
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The only hurten I know is the one where most trees has hitbox

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Specially burnt areas

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Ugh

silk igloo
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I started playing in the preorder beta so I never even saw this oldest hurtgen. Huh. Its way bright and odd.

real parrot
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There was 4k back then?

novel geyser
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funny how something as simple as weapon sway can impact things

silk igloo
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odd, it seems to sway a lot in the experimental branch. maybe i just never paid attention to it. gotta revert and check again...

novel geyser
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seems more noticable in that video than any time I play
makes guns look less.. stiff?

past veldt
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The sway looks just the same

novel geyser
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maybe im just crazy

past veldt
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it's probably just that the gun is detached a bit more from the camera, so there is a bunch of camera movement before the gun moves

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which imo looks awful

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to be fair, this guy is RPing so much its hard to find much actual shooting in this 😄

novel geyser
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lol

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how BM pulled so many people into the game

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vibes rather than actual gameplay

past veldt
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I think this video is a good example for people who say that the playerbase is worse now than before

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even in beta, this guy opens a squad, leaves, and rejoins as rifleman

silk igloo
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in many of these old videos, people play like it's a real war, and even 8 guys bunch up behind a single sherman

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so early hll was accidentally a giant larp. in hindsight.

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then we optimized all the fun out of it

echo karma
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Old thommy sounds

cyan saddle
covert elbow
past vortex
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funny how he does nothing all vid

novel geyser
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just like a normal match of hll

silk igloo
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Tickets had been just removed, I think, and nobody had figured out the meta yet. And you needed 1 squadmate near to build an OP, and 2 teammates to build a garry, IIRC. I think it was a 5 minute cooldown to build an OP too? Couldn't just spam spawns.

novel geyser
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damn

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I figured it would be interesting if you had to build garrisons with the hammer like you do engie structures

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but that would make garrisons even rarer in pubs

visual niche
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you used to be able to sit on top of the trees in old hurtgen as well

novel geyser
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zomg just like le band of brother

atomic pendant
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Old Hurtgen was fun

tall kettleBOT
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formal fern
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Whats the difference between a mil sim team and a comp team

empty flame
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Hi, would it be possible to speak with an admin here?

slate canopy
cosmic pilot
covert elbow
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Seemed like a downgrade rather than an improvement

cosmic pilot
covert elbow
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How so

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You think the current stiff moment is better?

cosmic pilot
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In terms of gameplay, neither version had a real impact.

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If I were to be in charge of gunplay I'd give hll bodycam's fps controller/animation system

novel geyser
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gunplay comes down mainly to the actual recoil system and weapon accuracy more than anything along with all the little things like if guns had noticably increased sway when stood up or after running for a long time. and could be braced on walls and surfaces like RO2

nova pivot
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Yes

covert elbow
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The main issue is that your soldier has arms of steel and it’s awkward not having your weapon move at all

lethal stream
# nova pivot Yes

I'm sorry, I sent the message on the wrong channel. I didn't know where to send it

nova pivot
lethal stream
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I just developed a visual Hell Let Loose career rank / troop class XP calculator. It clearly shows how much XP is still needed for each level.

nova pivot
lethal stream
nova pivot
lethal stream
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Just finished developing it.

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I want you guys to use it and see if there are any bugs.

nova pivot
lethal stream
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You might need to switch the language first when you get it.

nova pivot
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I believe in the universal language of love

lethal stream
nova pivot
lethal stream
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I still think it's better to send it to you privately. I'm worried.

slate canopy
nova pivot
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How is your day going?

slate canopy
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You missed me? 🥺

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Going allright. It snowed (which hasn't much lately)

nova pivot
cyan saddle
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"going alright" and "it snowed" are two sentences that shouldn't go together

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Unless you wanted to stay at home that day

slate canopy
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Haha. It was only like 1-2 inches of snow.

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Most of our snow has melted away.

cyan saddle
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That's 1-2 inches too much

finite berry
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Why y'all hating snow :(

nova pivot
cyan saddle
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My usual reaction to it snowing is "Oh, cool. When will it stop?"

finite berry
nova pivot
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It's like water but you can throw it at people

finite berry
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Water in its most based state

covert elbow
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Me with an like 60 inches of snow

nova pivot
thin lotus
patent plover
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What is mislim?

nova pivot
patent plover
nova pivot
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But most of the time is used by clans that have ranks based on real military ones but they don't really reanact

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If you want to join one I would recommend asking @covert elbow

patent plover
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Is it fun?

nova pivot
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It is just another way of enjoying the game

patent plover
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Is @covert elbow Xbox?

covert elbow
nova pivot
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@covert elbow you xbox?

covert elbow
patent plover
tall kettleBOT
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dusty bolt
weak dune
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why is there no okinawa/iwo jima hell let loose map yet i would love to play those maps

covert elbow
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You gonna make them?

tall kettleBOT
kindred cosmos
obtuse dragon
analog apex
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and never will be

blissful mango
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🤣

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Clown

honest pecan
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It's probably just not worth it for the devs

silk igloo
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on the contrary, i bet they would make lots of money from the chinese market that way

obtuse dragon
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the game has a ton of issues that still haven't been fixed, the game doesn't need more content right now, it needs to address the 30 elefants in the room
and tbh if japan is added but there's literally no changes to the core gameplay people would get dissappointed

honest pecan
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I don't think the game should pivot away from the European theater, it's more manageable this way

honest pecan
obtuse dragon
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They would need to do changes to the core gameplay so japan doesn't feel like a weaker version of the germans

analog apex
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more like weaker version of the British xD

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the same kinds of small arms but even thrashier tanks

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+problem of tanks with multiple guns on one turret - would require a special new system of turret/cannon control

finite berry
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I still think it's impossible to balance the Japanese against the Allies (excluding the British) without completely butchering history

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Like, have fun with a few machine guns, 90% bolt-action rifles, practically zero SMGs and no semi-autos to begin with

past vortex
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yea

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really aweful in enlisted

finite berry
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Against 1941 UK, it could work

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Against the US, forget it

analog apex
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There could (theoretically) be a cheap version of Japanese, using Burma for maps. Fighting the British only. One thing's for sure though, no matter if Pacific or Burma, I personally wouldn't play any of those.

finite berry
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And then there still are the Japanese tanks that were outmatched by pretty much every Allied tank

novel geyser
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If the Japanese had a lot more tricks up their sleeve in their arsenal it couuuld balance it out
Booby traps and fancy command abilities

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But getting the right balance would be hard and theyd have to have factions or maps with limited symmetry and few tanks which I don't think they want to do

silk igloo
finite berry
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Yeah, like I said, they'd need to complete butcher history

novel geyser
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Something they've already done time and time again

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Just look at the ""SPAs"" they recently added

finite berry
kindred cosmos
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a kit geared for guerilla warfare would be fun

novel geyser
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They've already said they're focusing on more traditional combat and wont include the Viet Cong which just automatically makes it more lame

pine ember
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Since its NVA vs US Army (?) and thus should be symetrical I dont care who I would play

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I wont play it at all anyways most likely

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The regular North Vietnamese Army fought too

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Would be cool to see other factions like Aussies

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Why not?

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Are we baiting again?

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The Aussies could come with Centurions and FALs

novel geyser
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I think baiting in this server should be a punishable offense
atleast 5 minutes in the brazen bull per bait

pine ember
finite berry
novel geyser
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approximately 60,000

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not as many as the americans but thats still a lot
they saw plenty of combat

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south koreans also went to nam

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south

mellow knoll
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Man don’t let my Aussie friend hear that. He takes pride in his country being involved.

novel geyser
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to emus in general yes

nova pivot
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You can't fight against nature

gentle lintel
pine ember
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They had though

novel geyser
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I think people also dont realise south vietnam's allies werent an invading force they were assisting a defence of south vietnam from north vietnam

glass rose
pine ember
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Lol

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@mild gulch abi is baitin again

honest pecan
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Which is only having them fight against the Chinese

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But it's unfeasible in this game

novel geyser
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I dont think the general hll playerbase would enjoy that

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Being limited to mostly bolt actions and poopy early war tanks

honest pecan
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Fuuuuuuuuuck

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I want early game Germans

nova pivot
honest pecan
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Panzer IIs would be kino

nova pivot
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Bolt action supremacy

honest pecan
novel geyser
nova pivot
pine ember
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They werent involved in Vietnam as ground troops

honest pecan
nova pivot
honest pecan
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I don't reckon Poles had any SPAs

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Might be wrong though, I'm not an expert

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Although I'm pretty sure the Germans didn't start using the Bison until the battle of France

novel geyser
honest pecan
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Kek

honest pecan
novel geyser
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I wouldnt mind italy personally

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finland would require early war soviets aswell

honest pecan
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But Finland was promised to us 3000 years ago

novel geyser
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:p

nova pivot
cosmic pilot
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More toys more gooder

novel geyser
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SPAs are bad tho

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should never have been added
make the appropriate ones assault guns like they should be and add mortars

cosmic pilot
novel geyser
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they're still bad tho

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mortars would have been a better alternative

cosmic pilot
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But yes, they should function like assault guns

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I just use them in direct fire anyway

novel geyser
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lol

edgy burrow
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Hello I'm new to the game and uhh no sessions are showing is that normal?

honest pecan
edgy burrow
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Like there are no people

honest pecan
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Dead internet theory

edgy burrow
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Bro

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how am I supposed to play then 😔

honest pecan
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And refresh server list

edgy burrow
edgy burrow
edgy burrow
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There are no players I mean

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There is only 1 server with 2 people in it

honest pecan
honest pecan
edgy burrow
edgy burrow
honest pecan
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Idk

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Restart your game

honest pecan
# edgy burrow I did

What about the check marks like "show only official servers" "don't show full servers" are they all unchecked

edgy burrow
edgy burrow
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I even validated the files restarted my laptop

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Nope nothing

honest pecan
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You're definitely doing something wrong that I'm positive I'm just not savvy enough to pinpoint what exactly

edgy burrow
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I'm not playing on the public test version I have cross play on

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Like what else is there?

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Seriously man? Can I even refund this now bruh I literally bought a bundle containing some stuff idk

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:/

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Man I looked so forward to playing

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This just sucks

worthy charm
honest pecan
honest pecan
edgy burrow
edgy burrow
honest pecan
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Don't refund the game btw

edgy burrow
honest pecan
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Cause it's a good game

worthy charm
silk igloo
edgy burrow
worthy charm
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Dont trust anyone in this messy hall

edgy burrow
edgy burrow
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Idk sounds more right

edgy burrow
silk igloo
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goblin

edgy burrow
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I'm just gonna play Wolfenstein the colussus

cosmic pilot
honest pecan
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actually

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can you stream your game to me @edgy burrow

edgy burrow
honest pecan
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join a vc

edgy burrow
honest pecan
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what

edgy burrow
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How do I close the game without actual closing it

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So like I don't have to enter it again and it's In my task bar

honest pecan
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alt tab?

edgy burrow
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Fair point

edgy burrow
honest pecan
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did you not even know what alt tab does?

edgy burrow
honest pecan
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bruh

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@edgy burrow

edgy burrow
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?

honest pecan
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will you stream your game to me

edgy burrow
honest pecan
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youre right, i will install a virus onto your computer through hell let loose, ACTUALLY, i hacked your game specifically so you would come here and i could offer to help you

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good catch

silk igloo
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just dont trust gobbo

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his job is mischief

honest pecan
edgy burrow
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I'm just gonna do whatever

silk igloo
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i got nothing against you, you're funny

finite berry
finite berry
mellow knoll
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Really factual

gentle lintel
lime umbra
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U are harassed by admins

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Just like me :/

crude slate
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So heres the deal, everytime we die, we do 15 pushup.

hazy owl
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when pacific release?

nova pivot
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Skill issue

solemn junco
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I wished this game was in competent hands, can't wait till conquest flops like every other dumb idea they implemented

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And when I say implemented I mean half-assed

honest pecan
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HLL devs are in fact, the antichrist

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I mean, it's kinda undeniable at this point we've got to agree

harsh egret
covert elbow
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It’s gotten a lot more service and content so that’s fair

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Been playing ton of outlast trials and battlefront 2 recently

tall kettleBOT
warped pawn
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after consideration, i am in fact not going to buy vietnam. why? nobody wants to change their video settings and key binds every time they get drafted. They cant fix it here, they wont fix it there.

silk igloo
covert elbow
silk igloo
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well get off playstation

covert elbow
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No

worthy charm
finite berry
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Oh

worthy charm
nova pivot
past vortex
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non - si -oh

silk igloo
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i got 95% of my men killed

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this game is great

arctic crypt
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Hey guys got a weird glitch going on, the last few days, every server I’ve been in, every single person in my game is muted and I am unable to unmute them. Idk why or how to fix this. Is anyone else getting the same issue?

topaz wedge
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Hey dose anyone wanna squad up w me

topaz wedge
harsh egret
arctic crypt
harsh egret
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I see you're on xbox. Get used to basically nothing ever functioning properly and never being fixed in this game.

arctic crypt
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Dang it

topaz wedge
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🙁

harsh egret
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You might check if anything changed with your privacy/security settings but if not then it really is anyone's guess

topaz wedge
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Can’t wait for Vietnam

arctic crypt
fervent marsh
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any one want to join me?

alpine osprey
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It doesnt work

gentle lintel
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You have to earn the pacific counter

dire pollen
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is there any way to make the sowjet maps less медленный?

gentle lintel
vestal narwhal
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No matter what i do, i cannot get my mic to work. how do i fix this issue?

spring tulip
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Is the playtest for conquest over?

hazy owl
hazy owl
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As I keep saying here I believe HLL 2 would be way more successful and the risk of Vietnam not being successful puts the whole franchise in jeopardy

finite berry
tough summit
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how to get rid of foliage flickering?

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im on a very good pc with max settings, using community aa

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I have tried every setting nothing works

upbeat depot
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Can someone help me with some questions on playing commander?

slate canopy
upbeat depot
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I feel like I always get caught trying to make them more advanced

slate canopy
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I'm not an expert, but am level 10 commander. I'd recommend setting up defensive garrisons, using a supply truck (besides final point if it's too far back for a truck drop off).

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How I start is supply drop in our zone before midzone (assuming this is Warfare we're talking), so they can build an "offensive" (quotes because it's technically not QUITE offensive but) garrison.

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While I drop a supply truck for engineers and drive the other myself.

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Some say build in site, others say don't... it all depends on the map and the capture point.

upbeat depot
slate canopy
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I'd say second and build around.

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So say it's Carentan, you're defending on Derailed Train, mid point is Town Center.

upbeat depot
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I tried this on my last map making the garrisons in a triangle formation but I feel like we just lose the left and right ones so fast. Also should the middle one be on the strong hold or like 50m behind

slate canopy
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You'd drop supply drop for the one right of Ruin, but you could build the other 3 with a truck.

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(just an example, doesn't have to be EXACTLY that)

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Also ignore it's red zone - I forgot ot change the color. It's just an example lol

covert elbow
slate canopy
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Better version? I dunno lol

upbeat depot
covert elbow
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Also I’d recommend the jeep over the supply truck. It’s cheaper, faster, and you don’t need to go back to spawn after the 2nd garrison since supply drops are so cheap

upbeat depot
# slate canopy

So I have been setting them up wrong? I have been doing it in a triangle formation around the strong hold 3 garrisons for each stronghold

slate canopy
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I can make it one with another garrison. lol

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Ninja may have some better input than me 😅 It's kinda map subjective too.

covert elbow
upbeat depot
slate canopy
covert elbow
upbeat depot
covert elbow
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They can be close to eachother, far away, or inbetween but don’t make patterns. Patterns is how people learn and that’s not what you want the enemy to do

slate canopy
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That'd definitely what I do.

upbeat depot
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Same lmao

slate canopy
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I take out a garrison, go "what's 200m and makes sense?" as an enemy spotter.

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cause then I go find it 😁

covert elbow
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Exactly

upbeat depot
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Okay thank you guys I want to be a really good commander

covert elbow
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God I want it decreased to 150m so we can have better placement options

upbeat depot
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I have played 4 games won 2 at the moment

covert elbow
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Just be aware, the experience will suck

slate canopy
covert elbow
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People will complain that your making them loose the game and that your awful. That is a fact of life

slate canopy
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You could have games where garrison go down ALL game and you're trying to cover your bases... or they never go down 😅

covert elbow
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Just do the best you can, deal with those people as best as possible, and keep on learning

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Oh also another thing, you will eventually come to hate recon squads and understand why people want them nerfed

upbeat depot
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Yeah I’ve encountered a few interesting officers in my 4 games

slate canopy
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Don't nerf my baby 🥺

covert elbow
slate canopy
covert elbow
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Honestly if I loose all my garrisons one game, note down the enemy recon, then see them in the next match I just leave

upbeat depot
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I grinned too level 30 just to play commander on a new players welcome server

covert elbow
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It’s demoralizing and unfun to have your garrisons go down as soon as they appear and continually get back capped by them

covert elbow
slate canopy
upbeat depot
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Are the corn fields a good place to put them? I feel like that’s just a death trap waiting to happen

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Like the fields with the tall grass

covert elbow
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Corn fields on of the best spots

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Super wide, no visibility, and tough to navigate

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Even if a recon sees your supply’s go down good luck in them finding it

upbeat depot
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Okay I’ll bear that in mind

covert elbow
slate canopy
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Someone say bear?

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🐻‍❄️

upbeat depot
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Say there is 4 buildings in a square with a sort of courtyard in the middle with 1 way in 1 way out is this a good place to put them or is that obvious for the recon?

plush leaf
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Hello are there Arabs in this Discord
السلام عليكم هل يوجد عرب هنا؟ 🙏

hallow ravine
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Whats the best class for kills

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@cyan saddle @slate canopy

hallow ravine
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There isn’t

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English

plush leaf
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Well, thank you.

hallow ravine
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We are proud Jews

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Oy vey

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Shekel money

plush leaf
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We are all human, and we are God’s creation. A respectful person is respected no matter their religion or ethnicity👍

analog apex
# hallow ravine Whats the best class for kills

It's not about a class, it's more about the weapons - semi-auto rifles provide the best kill ratios overall. If you are in town / close quarters, then assault weapons like BAR or STG. The reason is the one hit kill (OHK) distances for the weapons. The rifles OHK is 200m, for the assault weapons it's 100m but they have auto-fire mode which balances them out in the towns.

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So ofc. even the environment plays role. In open maps like Foy or Kursk, MGs rule as well, especially MG42.

hallow ravine
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I see on tik Tok people get 5 kdr with sniper

analog apex
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Yes ofc, but there are pros and cons - the bolt-action sniper rifles do OHK at any range. Semi auto rifle like scoped SVT do at 200m I believe and FG42 is an exception that does OHK just till 100m.
Ofc., headshots are one hit kills no matter the weapon and distance.

hallow ravine
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Damn wow

analog apex
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only the bolt action sniper rifles do one hit kill at any range

hallow ravine
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Ic

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Im gonna become a sniper main

analog apex
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...if you can get it 😐

hallow ravine
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People get 5 kdr as sniper it’s insane

analog apex
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Sniper class is available only in the recon squad type. And there is limit to 2 recon squads per team. Usually taken first and locked by peeps who wait for their friends.

hallow ravine
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Fair

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Recon gets Tommy too right?

analog apex
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Spotter (the recon squad type squad leader) has initially access to the Thompson loadout yes. But he can unlock the 2nd loadout that has M1 Carbine.

hallow ravine
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Holy so if I have my friend and I play as recon only we will become insane

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M1 carbine and sniper

analog apex
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The US sniper has access only to 1 primary weapon though - scoped bolt-action Springfield with 4x zoom, pretty weak one. The best is probably the GER sniper who can have scoped Kar98K with 8x zoom for looooong range kills... or scoped semi-auto FG42 with 4x zoom, so the GER one is the most versatile sniper probably.

hallow ravine
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Wait I just became a sniper on USSR does mosin nagant one shot

analog apex
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Also keep in mind the main purpose of the recon squads in HLL - they are HQ arty killers and hunters of resource nodes & backline garrisons. Can be pretty boring for many people, usually the Spotter is alone in the enemy HQ areas doing the search, while the sniper helps on the frontline.

If neither Sniper nor Spotter are doing any of this job I mentioned, they are a waste of recon squad and the rest of the team won't like it, especially if enemy HQ arty keeps killing them.

hallow ravine
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I see

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So I should try go behind enemy lines instead of getting kills alr

analog apex
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Always depends on the situation - best it should be the Spotter that makes that call and only he can build the OP near so you can respawn and repeat attacking enemy HQ-arty crews if they kill you. If you can't hear enemy arty from enemy HQ direction and nobody in your team complains about it, no need to go for the arty as it is most likely not being used.

hallow ravine
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Got it

analog apex
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Because even if you went for the enemy HQ, you won't survive without an OP near. One death, and you respawn too far away.

hallow ravine
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I just camped in a bush and killed 4 Germans

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But then I got found and shot

analog apex
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a good start

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if you are a sniper, you can do a lot of damage on the frontline - if no OP near enemy HQ, I usually do just that - staying on the frontline and killing

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if there is an OP near enemy HQ, I respawn there from time to time to check it the arty is active or if some new nodes weren't built

hallow ravine
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Rn I’m on top of a building

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3 kills so far without dying

analog apex
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the nodes are usually inside the HQ spawn area, or at the line of the HQ line and the 1st sector line

hallow ravine
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My spotter is next to me

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He pings people and j shoot hen

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Them

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Just got killed

analog apex
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Effective recon squads are victims of bad game mechanics in HLL sadly - forced to spawncamp the enemy HQ to prevent the arty crew from making and crewing the gun and then hunting for the HQ resource nodes as the nodes have no use on the fronline and are "best" if built hidden, and forgotten. If nodes found, wasting 3 minutes on each node set (1 node takes 1m to dismantle).

Sadly the devs didn't rly try to solve these problems. Otherwise, the recon squads wouldn't need to be any deeper than in the closest locked sector line. Sadly... the today's way is the way that will likely stay for good 🙁 .

hallow ravine
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I get what your saying and I agree the spawn camping and need to remove enemy spawns is unfortunately a key objective

analog apex
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Oh yeah and then... there is the 2nd loadout of Spotter's - the flare that serves as "UAV", revealing the enemies on the tacMap. And since he gets a new flare rearmed each new life, another way of staying effective is respawning over and over, firing the flare each life. Another dumb mechanics the devs haven't seemed to care about fixing at all.

hallow ravine
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Got it

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I’ll tell my friend to spam flares

analog apex
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very helpful for friendly artillery especially

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but God I wish that UAV function was removed 😄

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One more pretty important thing (not just) about the sniping though - one needs to learn the maps and remember **which assets render at shorter-distances-only ❗ **. Because so often you will see somebody standing seemingly in the open, you take a shot at him, just to realize he is actually standing behind some cover/asset that is not being rendered for you as you are too far away. But that asset still stops your bullets. And the only thing you do then, is revealing your position for free - shooting with no hits is the worst thing for a sneaky sniper.

arctic rampart
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Can't believe devs in 2026 don't think about stuff like that

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Reforger's got the same bs

analog apex
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I haven't watched/played Reforger in quite a while

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I assume the latter.

hazy owl
# finite berry Why would there be a risk of Vietnam not being successful?

There are millions of sold copies of Hell Let Loose and I can still see so many low level players all the time indicating there is an interest in the game. Reviews are good. But the game is lacking any progress for whatever reasons. I would think developing HLL2 to address the existing issues and create a better framework for future updates is simply the safer bet. People would most definitely buy a better version of their favorite game just like they did with fifa, cod, the sims, nfs and more and it could bring so many dead souls back on the map which. T17 idea of developing a brand new game while having a terrible track record of delivering any meaningful content to the base game over the last 3 years seems very risky to the franchise and I'm afraid they'll kill it. We know there is a market for ww2 shooter like HLL we have no idea how large the market for Vietnam will be. I hope I'm wrong

analog apex
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HLL has had way too many unavoidable bugs, problems and performance problems.

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Those who stay longer, usually do not for the game, but for their clan/community.

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If the game was truly doing so well as the devs may think, we would then unavoidably need to see much more high LVL veterans by now. But we don't.

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Most of the players I see are around LVLs 10 - 80, constantly.

finite berry
analog apex
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Yep, was about to add that again - sadly such kind of players are exactly the ones T17 needs - many new short term players that keep buying the game and replacing the old crew who could complain about stuff but leave quietly instead.

finite berry
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hazy owl
analog apex
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Team17 could use a lesson of having a competition. HLL survives just because there is no any new WWII shooter in the making by any studio.

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And SQ44 is old and marketed so poorly nobody even notices.

finite berry
arctic rampart
# analog apex flares or not-rendered assets on the distance?

Some assets. Usually those aren't as bad as just players themselves not loading.
In vanilla it's less noticable, but in modded servers especially. Not because they reduce it, but because most weapons etc. can and should be used at long ranges.

analog apex
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The same for the WWII Online. Great concepts, great mechanics, but the graphics is from like 2000s.

finite berry
analog apex
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We need a new large scale WWII game that would blow HLL out of the water. And I guess with so poor HLL quality, any would at least make some waves.

hazy owl
arctic rampart
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Yeah idk. I haven't been into HLL for over a year now properly

finite berry
arctic rampart
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I tried a match or two here and there, but just felt out of it. Like the scenery changes, but the gameplay doesn't. Each match is the same old same old time proven strat getting pulled again.
The only difference was how many people are griefing my execution of it

finite berry
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And the fact that HLL still gets played so much - which you said yourself - just shows that even mediocre games and slop can be successful

arctic rampart
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It's all cause of the normies

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If we got rid of them, life would be better

hazy owl
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Don't get me wrong I still enjoy playing HLL. However if you think they're only trying to maximise their profits and it's true it's disgusting. Try to make a good game first the success will come. It's a game. If devs don't play the game what's the point? It's like a vegan working for a butcher. And I have a feeling there is a lots of vegans working on the game.

finite berry
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Like, that's their sole goal

wintry thistle
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It shouldn’t be that way, but it’s the way these companies operate

honest pecan
hazy owl
arctic rampart
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The problem is the normies feed off this shet with a smile on their face

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They're the enablers of this

finite berry
arctic rampart
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You can compare to Planetside 2 though

analog apex
arctic rampart
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In terms of ww2 setting yeah

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But in terms of general playstyle, it's hll, sq44, squad and reforger as well

finite berry
arctic rampart
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Kind of that too, but not too much.

analog apex
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Reforger is however a milsim, not a shooter

arctic rampart
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There's no real tactical thinking to Enlisted

silk relic
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highly doubt it but are there any plans for some Pacific theatre maps?

analog apex
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Enlisted is as arcade as it can be

arctic rampart
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Reforger's not a milsim. Not even close. A3 was a milsim.

Reforger's made more casual than ever

finite berry
silk relic
analog apex
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not that far

finite berry
arctic rampart
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In reforger, squads don't really matter, the capping of bases, attacking and defending principles follow nearly perfectly in line with hll

analog apex
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Reforger is definitely further from HLL, can't put them on the same shelve even remotely
Reforger stays milsim, it would need way deeper casual stuff than this to be able to stop calling it that way

silk relic
finite berry
arctic rampart
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I can and will. Unless you're in some vanilla server with normies. Sure they'll think they're roleplaying playing a milsim.
In the same gamemode modded servers, where people play seriously, it plays out just like hll

silk relic
arctic rampart
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The craziest thing I found is that people in Reforger can't comm for crap

finite berry
arctic rampart
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Brotha, no way you're bringing up pacific in a serious sense

silk relic
hazy owl
# finite berry You can't compare any of those with HLL/Vietnam.

Listen, I fully understand your perspective from the business point of view but I think you're wrong and that's why so many games fail nowadays. Some publishers think they can release an utter slop with ingame purchases and deluxe editions and build the game around it and we're all so stupid we gonna buy it anyway. That's why everyone is suing Valve because there are reviews and a whole social network and it hurts their sales and marketing and big companies are loosing hundreds of millions.
Their primary goal should and I hope is to create a good game that is fun to play. The money will come as a side effect.
I think Vietnam will look nice but it won't be fun to play longterm as it will lack depth and any potential to grow.

arctic rampart
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sq44 has pacific no?

finite berry
arctic rampart
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afaik it was a big deal of them adding it

finite berry
arctic rampart
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sq44 wasn't on console?

finite berry
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No?

silk relic
finite berry
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Never was; it's Steam-only

arctic rampart
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Damn.
Welp even more reason to get rid of that junk

silk relic
finite berry
silk relic
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plus I doubt theres Australian servers

finite berry
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Very good game, tho

arctic rampart
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It's not dead on Steam 😄

silk relic
finite berry
# silk relic how much?

I don't know the console prices, but on Steam, it's on discount for ~25 bucks which includes all DLCs

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If you get ER2, get all the DLCs

honest pecan
silk relic
finite berry
silk relic
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slightly higher price cus Australias game prices are insane

finite berry
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Just keep in mind, it's basically a singleplayer game with a multiplayer option I wouldn't recommend

silk relic
honest pecan
finite berry
silk relic
finite berry
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If you can hop into VC later, I can stream it for you if you want

silk relic
finite berry
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check

honest pecan
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Wish I could post gifs

finite berry
silk relic
finite berry
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Yes

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Wait, no

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You don't

finite berry
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And the next DLC will be Operation Spring Awakening (Hungary 1945)

honest pecan
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Well, that just happened, he's right behind me isn't he?

silk relic
finite berry
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You won't be disappointed, it's a great game

silk relic
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i really need to manage my spending habits

nova pivot
silk relic
nova pivot
silk relic
arctic rampart
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Should've spent on a decent pc and get rid of the console

arctic rampart
honest pecan
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What are you doing dude bruh

arctic rampart
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Kissing my homie on the forehead

finite berry
gentle lintel
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That’s a lot of avocado toast

silk relic
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it's all overpriced and no where near my budget

arctic rampart
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Then instead of spending it bit by bit on games and other things you said you shouldn't spend on. Just play the games you have already, then sell the console and use the overall increased budget to get a pc

honest pecan
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What kind of Australian

silk relic
silk relic
silk relic
finite berry
honest pecan
silk relic
nova pivot
arctic rampart
silk relic
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i still have my old xbox lol

nova pivot
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Tbf I prefer spending in other stuff while I play on the console than spending on the pc to play on it

arctic rampart
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Go for it, just don't spend on mediocre garbo games or the other un-needed expendatures that you mentioned

honest pecan
arctic rampart
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PC is always better in the long-run. Unless you're a complete normie

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And your "gaming" consists of sitting down for 20 minutes to play a single mission of RDR2

nova pivot
arctic rampart
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I mean damn if you're a single player enjoyer, PC is 100% the way to go.

If you're a multiplayer gamer, even better. No weird subs just to play online.
The only other good thing about console is there should be less hackers, but even that's on the verge of changing.
And usually games that have community servers don't have that issue either, since they self-moderate

nova pivot
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As simple as that

silk relic
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like a pc would make me happy but Lego makes me happier

nova pivot
arctic rampart
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And that's exactly why less games should waste time optimizing for consoles

nova pivot
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If I had a pc, which I have it is just not made for gaming, I wouldn't have my collection

arctic rampart
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Yeah that's fine

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Ofc you can have other hobbies that you value more than gaming

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I'm just saying I dislike how more and more companies are trying to please the masses, for example, wasting dev time on optimizing for consoles if the receiving end isn't as long-term oriented or invested as the pc playerbase.

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It's profitable for them though :/

finite berry
nova pivot
finite berry
nova pivot
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And the run pretty good

nova pivot
novel geyser
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They're releasing a lego hll next month

finite berry
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lmfao

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That would be extremely based, ngl

hazy owl
# finite berry You think it won't be fun to play longterm, but looooots of other players probab...

I am arguing that based on the terrible track record of content delivery over the last years T17 doesn't really know how to make a good HLL game and for that reason players won't have fun playing it and if you don't have fun playing it you don't care about the game and you won't buy any DLC and cosmetics that's just a common sense.
And as I always say I hope I am wrong and T17 will blow our minds but I have my doubts based on the past few years.

analog apex
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T17?

novel geyser
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Yep mhm

analog apex
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couldn't find anything about it on the internet... 😏

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someone's pulling our leg

novel geyser
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Nooooooo GBPig GBPig GBPig

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I would neverrrr

nova pivot
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I trust celdis

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If he told me to jump down a cliff I'll do it without hesitation

novel geyser
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Jump up a cliff

nova pivot
novel geyser
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☺️

silk relic
finite berry
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What campaign are ya playing :D

silk relic
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non so far I'm just messing around in the shooting range

finite berry
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Hahahaha

silk relic
finite berry
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When even the shooting range is peak already

finite berry
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Infantry and tanks are the real sh it

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Also, enemies actually surrender when too many of your team mates around them

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And you can revive both fallen enemies and friendlies as a medic

silk relic
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I'll get use to it

finite berry
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I rarely used them in actual battles, hehe

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Ground warfare just is more fun

silk relic
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why does every country speak english

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is there a way to change it?

finite berry
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Each nation has their own voice lines

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Pretty good ones, actually

silk relic
finite berry
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Go through the settings, I guess

silk relic
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okayy

nova pivot
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Bro thinks he is polarbear

hallow ravine
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Imagine playing rust

honest pecan
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Please keep it hell let loose related

nova pivot
finite berry
pine ember
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And you are one yourself?

pine ember
nova pivot
pine ember
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Yea, thats why you are one yourself

past veldt
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I'd sell it for £20

arctic rampart
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I'm more scared that T17 is publishing Wardogs

pine ember
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Enough

nova pivot
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Ur mom

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I'm getting down to your level, so you're comfortable.

pine ember
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We act that way so that you can understand us

night skiff
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Hi guys, just joined! I'm a bit of a green bean (newbie) from Asia, but I'm eager to learn. Looking forward to some clean and tactical games with you all!

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😅

nova pivot
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Welcome 🤗

night skiff
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thnak

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But I don't have a mic

nova pivot
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If you don't have one you are playing the game wrong, communication is very important

night skiff
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Is there a squad that can open a channel so I can communicate with them, since I don't have a microphone?

dusty bolt
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Good morning chat

dusty bolt
night skiff
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Are there any recommended unit types and strategies for first-time players?😋

nova pivot
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Any other class without a mic would damage your team

sturdy quarry
# novel geyser They're releasing a lego hll next month

https://youtu.be/O6yEK1NtRbE?si=WNcdbWkVc9y_jsmG

YouTube
JD Brick Productions
The Battle of the Bulge - WW2 stopmotion

On December 16, 1944, the Germans launched their last major offensive of WW2, intending to split the Allies' lines in two.
As the Germans advanced through the Ardennes Forest the Americans were caught completely by surprise and were pushed back, creating a bulge in their frontline which gave the battle its name.
The german's initial success did ...

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novel geyser
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hardly anyone wearing winter clothes.
it truly is lego HLL

novel geyser
novel geyser
cyan saddle
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240p is brutal

finite berry
novel geyser
slate mist
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there is 500MS on almost evry server

silk relic
honest pecan
slate mist
slate canopy
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But you said every server.

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Did you join each one and have same issue?

harsh egret
novel geyser
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I just realised asside from sounding cheesy as hell the british radio sounds in this game use the wrong phonetic alphabet

night skiff
silk igloo
dusty bolt
covert elbow
novel geyser
covert elbow
solemn junco
worthy charm
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Its upon us once more

analog apex
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Free weekend,... omg another one 🥶
dark dazs ahead of us again

worthy charm
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Youre bad for sales old man

covert elbow
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At least it’s not free on gamepass

analog apex
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😄

dusty bolt
covert elbow
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Also with how the playerbase is there’s going to be no difference lmao

sleek cradle
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Will the game stay in your library after the free weekend?

worthy charm
finite berry
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I like how this reads like a threat lmao

dusty bolt
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Blueberry Dreams it is

worthy charm
fluid pawn
chrome bane
fluid pawn
analog apex
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Benito!

fluid pawn
finite berry
dusty bolt
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Man I wish T17 addressed/fixed these bugs instead of ignoring it every single time its brought up

analog apex
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This!

dusty bolt
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Or trying to change the subject

finite berry
analog apex
dusty bolt
covert elbow
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Can’t even lie to us

nova pivot
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I don't want free weekend

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I want news

finite berry
finite berry
analog apex
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why are so many people telling me that... "you have a nice voice", "you have a sexy voice"
wtf gimme a break 😄

dusty bolt
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Community: Please stop releasing new content before fixing the bugs first!

T17: Best I can do is new game mode and level 1 bug (again)

nova pivot
finite berry
nova pivot
honest pecan
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Doesn't need to be called out

covert elbow
finite berry
covert elbow
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Like conquest might work, but HLL’s mechanics and functions is going to make it really hard

finite berry
covert elbow
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Nope

finite berry
# covert elbow Nope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqxY-9fVK7o

YouTube
The Fresh Baked Goods
Hell Let Loose – Is Conquest Mode Worth It? (Feat @Raz_Bora )

Is Hell Let Loose Conquest Mode actually worth playing? In this discussion, we break down our honest thoughts after jumping into Conquest and seeing how it compares to Warfare and Offensive. We talk about the new strongpoint pacing, the two-minute capture system, map flow, tank gameplay impact, and whether this mode improves the overall experien...

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I think it sums up everything pretty well

covert elbow
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I’ll check it out

past vortex
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its out of a tank, so nor the best vid to judge it

finite berry
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I think they also played infantry

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Not entirely sure, tho

past vortex
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naw

finite berry
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And they also cover the infantry experience

past vortex
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i saw it

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its not useless but not best for inf info

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but heh :}
devs gonna release it as is anyway

finite berry
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You think so?

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No refinements or reworks?

past vortex
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why would they do it different this time

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last time they tested, everyone said its extremly bad and then it was released as is in cold blood

silk igloo
analog apex
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for instance, to keep garries in a lost sector

silk igloo
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free weekend is the perfect excuse to do inane things

past vortex
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to be honest, developing a new gamemode isnt done in one test anyway

finite berry
analog apex
past vortex
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so unless we see a cycle of tests, feedback and changes it gonna be bad

finite berry
analog apex
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but keeping them would be dumb and illogical

finite berry
past vortex
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so yea it is bad

finite berry
analog apex
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:/

past vortex
fluid pawn
finite berry
analog apex
past vortex
dusty bolt
finite berry
fluid pawn
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It's deffo not done

dusty bolt
fluid pawn
silk igloo
past vortex
fluid pawn
dusty bolt
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No

analog apex
fluid pawn
past vortex
past vortex
analog apex
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And if they wanted to make dying matter in this gamemode, just why the heck do it the exactly opposite way 😄 . Dying probably matters even less in CONQUEST, than in WARFARE xD.
nobody cares about the morale number, it's just a victory condition - an indication UI, not something anybody can really influence or get influenced by

past vortex
silk igloo
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the SPA is pretty good at taking out OPs though.

past vortex
analog apex
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When talking about the arty... if the devs wanted to fix the recon<>HQ arty loop, why did they keep the HQ arty guns in? The loop is still there, and even worse for the artillery crews. Yes there is a cooldown after taking a gun down, but that doesn't make the recon leave as they know the cooldown will eventually run out and they will rebuild the gun. And the crew also keeps redeploying there, the same as before. HQ spawncamping as a meta... stupid.

novel geyser
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why didnt they add mortars like everyone was saying

analog apex
novel geyser
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and why are the SPAs not actual SPAs

analog apex
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everyone was saying, the devs claim they listen and yet HQ arty stays

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a joke

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silk igloo
# past vortex not in relation to cost, time to reach position and lifetime

Depends. Last time I played, I could freely shoot away at stalingrad train station just 300 meters away, and nobody could get me because the terrain and team was favourable. Stabilized the point once or twice, just lobbing HE around and getting OPs at random. I was playing alone with the default SPA so it was a freebie

analog apex
past vortex
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yea

past vortex
covert elbow
covert elbow
past vortex
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:}

analog apex
past vortex
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i played it once

sturdy quarry
analog apex
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whilst you may be here looking - it was mentioned that when everyone was disappointed the churches were closed off on mortain that this may be revisited. it is odd to have a HLL map with no church to pray the level 1 reset bug away

covert elbow
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They either need to go fully into tickets for every gamemode or scrap them entirely. You can’t do something halfway and expect it to work