mess-hall

[hard whale]

Conquest sounds very interesting

[midnight salmon]

let me guess, no bug fixes for rockets flying through tanks and rubber banding and people falling from sky and grenade bug and game crashes, BUT new game mode?

best developer ever

[split hamlet]

I have been playing a lot or arma reforger this year, will be very interesting to see conquest mode in HLL

[midnight salmon]

i love t17 hopefully they add 500 more features nobody wants

[finite berry]

Exactly, I can't wait

[split hamlet]

I once aimed a rocket on a house and shot straight through the house, through the wall😆 and it continue flying, made no harm, enemy survived and I wanted to die 🤣

[dire timber]

Hello I am asking a question about the anti tank bazooka, how come I need to shoot 3 rockets into the engine and the tank still doesn' t get destroyed?

[lunar hornet]

aim issue

[split hamlet]

It takes 4 rockets to kill nowadays I think?

[dire timber]

Unemployed moment

[lunar hornet]

yup

But fr I think the hitboxes for the tracks are a bit higher so it registers as a track hit rather than engine

Dunno how true that is, just heard someone ranting in my squad about it for 10 mins one time

[dusty bolt]

you still play?

[mild gulch]

If there isnt flamethrowers in HLLV im gonna scoop my eyes out and eat them

[lunar hornet]

2026 is the year of the great HLL return.

[dire timber]

Tell me you're trash at infantry without telling me

[mild gulch]

Yeah you are gonna get toasted buddy

[dire timber]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-ishowmeat-funny-laugh-gif-3834932356741800396

[mild gulch]

its all cool iconic weapon. go back to cod

i have used a flamethrower irl. instant erection

[dire timber]

https://tenor.com/view/wojak-brainlet-microwave-smoke-dumb-gif-3026155548321433372

[regal wigeon]

It's for sure going to be in the game. They were used heavily to clear out protected positions

[lunar hornet]

Idk if you've noticed but there is already a flamethrower so don't know why they wouldn't put it in vietnam.

[regal wigeon]

In the actual Vietnam I mean lol

[mild gulch]

cause its a different war and a different type of flamethrower

[lunar hornet]

Flamethrowers and naplam

[mild gulch]

You wouldnt last a day in the jungle kid

[finite berry]

(he probably won't last another active day in this Discord)

[dire timber]

Why not though

Explain

[mild gulch]

You dont even play the game, why you talking

[lunar hornet]

I don't want to be in a jungle. Been in it once and never again

[mild gulch]

Why not

[finite berry]

hehe

[lunar rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/big-lebowski-have-you-ever-heard-of-vietnam-walter-big-lebowski-big-lebowski-car-scene-gif-26977438

[echo karma]

Is conquest just bf5 rippif?

[storm flicker]

anyday now vietnam

[stone dagger]

Is there a release date for vietnam?

[finite berry]

No

[mild gulch]

bro u only play SQ44 why are you commenting

[mild gulch]

No

[pine ember]

Thanks but no

[finite berry]

Because I know the answer to his question

[silk igloo]

if people use the jeeps to spam ammo on conquest, it'll be flare and rocket spam like hell. 4 spotters and arty observers riding in a convoy of 3 jeeps across the map, just spamming 28 flares around the entire map before having to reload in HQ.

[cyan pine]

[abstract lichen]

[cinder bridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3frTBHyoU0s just remember what was signed off on years ago with T17 acquiring the title

[worthy charm]

The Statement from wombat was peek

Praise be to her name

[hazy owl]

My predictions for CQ are HQ camping and dominant map control followed by painful waiting for the map to end. HLL thrives with linear progression imo being the most enjoyable when you all push as a team not being scattered across the map

[cinder bridge]

Yes, a frontline. There will be no frontline with this mode.

[past veldt]

People like to roleplay HLL for it's epic feeling of battle

People like the bigger comp strategy only found due to being 50v50

People don't like Skirmish because it's smaller

Now imagine this where it's going to be 10v10 around these points

I mean, BM even changed Offensive from having two different points at a time to one point for a reason

Not sure why they think going the other direction will be better

[silk igloo]

The same frontline that can exist on an open map like Foy, across the entire map, will likely exist even more so in conquest since you dont want your entire team to focus on just one point in the mid row. Even if you hold 4 out of 5 points, you still need to be wide or the enemy goes for your sides

[hazy owl]

The best way to dominate is always to maintain a line no matter the game mode. I keep suggesting that there should be a cooldown period before being able to enter another sector in Offensive mode and inactive sectors should be inaccessible like the redzone. There is nothing more annoying then being constantly flanked and probed by the attackers what the next point is and once they figure that out it's being camped. There should be some time for the defenders to regroup so the frontline is kind of being formed by design. The Warfare does not have these guardrails which makes it different. Either way it's the most fun when the whole team has single point of focus. Conquest is going to be very difficult to manage and the difference in skill will be visible way more. Games will snowball and since there is no 0:5 option the losing team will end up waiting for the tickets to bleed down to 0 most likely ending up in players disconnecting the server resulting in killing the server entirely.

[silk igloo]

Already in a game with less than 20 players there was 20 minutes remaining before the tickets bled out. I think the games will be pretty quick with a full game and they will increase the tickets

[past veldt]

In no way is a line good for Offensive 😅

You dominate local areas and use it to capture the point.

[winter rover]

Conquest will die like Skirmish

[abstract lichen]

skirmish is cool tho

for when you dont have a lotta time

[winter rover]

Then don't play the full offensive/warfare game

[abstract lichen]

skirmish is just for when you dont have time for a big game

which is neat imo

[winter rover]

But what's stopping you from leaving midgame?

[abstract lichen]

idk. some ppl wanna play an entire game if i had to guess.

[past veldt]

Skirmish is fun for just shooting stuff

You can treat it like TDM and it's no problem

[abstract lichen]

playing a whole short game might feel better than leaving your team midway through a big one

[winter rover]

Trust me, it's not that deep lmao

I don't remember the last time I played a full game

[abstract lichen]

also sometimes full servers may force ppl's hand

or some ppl actually might like skirmish

[hazy owl]

Many people try to remain until the end of the game

[winter rover]

If you can, great

If you can't, oh well there's no problem lmao

[hazy owl]

I mean I see the analytics from our server I see when people join and leave

many don't play the full game but try to remain until the end once they joined

[winter rover]

ok?

[pine ember]

Conquest will perform a lot better than Skirmish I would assume

[winter rover]

For sure

[hazy owl]

I can imagine it may be more enjoyable when jumping into the game with full squad of mates where you can solely focus on a single point and make it your mission

[ashen falcon]

@fluid pawn Good afternoon Ben, how are you? there any news about an update that will improve the FPS in Tobruk, Stalingrad, and Smolensk? Unfortunately, they are unplayable on consoles

And they're super cool maps

[silk igloo]

Its going to be much harder for recon to slip behind enemy lines in conquest when the enemy spreads towards 4 of the closest points. Could be much harder for any flanks to happen, ironically.

[steady vessel]

@fluid pawn please for the love of god PLEASE get them to remove the penalty for manual redeploying. It's hard enough as is to get people to redeploy for supplies. With it being punished they'll have an excuse to be bad teammates.

In conquest*

[twin marten]

guys, will they ever make crossplay between PC-Consloes?

[finite berry]

Unlikely

[steady vessel]

No, and for consoles sake, hopefully never.

[twin marten]

damn. I use PS and my buddy has PC we bought HLL to play together and umm...

[thin lotus]

lol
m
a
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@
HLL

[hazy owl]

that's all true if only players were organized enough to split equally.. there will always be some imbalance and once there is a control of one of the middle sectors I believe it's opened season for flankers and HQ campers like never before 😄

[silk igloo]

Well, the first zone starts getting capped by a few people, the rest zoom past them towards the mid row points... the immediate problem is that they have to wait for the first cap to build a bluezone garry for mid row, unless they made it possible to build a garry in neutral. And artying the last point in the beginning seems like an obvious tactic that may stop the cap and deprive the enemy of bluezone garris for a long, long while. As usual though, everything depends on the officers and how willing they are to place spawns first and die later. With so many jeeps there will surely be lots of attempts to get at the last point, the HQ or just behind the enemy. But the exp ammo from the jeep also helps to find ninjas with flares. Significantly better odds to find a transport at HQ to build spawns in an emergency too (well, the mode is more about tickets, so i guess it's not so important to spam bodies into the caps with good garries)

[fluid pawn]

For any suggestions, be sure to submit your feedback here: 🫡

🔗 Conquest Community Feedback Form

[olive garden]

i play on pc and its the same for me as well very bad fps on those maps still

[olive garden]

the fps is even worse for me on elsonbornridge

[cosmic pilot]

Conquest mode in hll is just capture mode in gates of hell change my mind

[wise fulcrum]

Just drop Vietnam already

[acoustic ravine]

skins?

[distant elbow]

conquest is the last ditch effort to keep the game alive lol, just let it die peacefully. Drop Vietnam, and leave HLL the way it is instead of turning it in to Battlefield for casuals.

[silk igloo]

hey, you now have a reason to shoot heads, because people still cap when they're down

[thin lotus]

u srs?
Still cap when downed?

[lunar hornet]

Awful read

[mild gulch]

We need ww1 hell let loose

or hell let loose: minnesota

[silk igloo]

seems that way, yeah. you going to commit war crimes to win

[finite berry]

As in publish or cancel :D

[finite berry]

It already IS that

[silk igloo]

bring back shotgun gibbing downed players

[finite berry]

Also, HLL is doing rather well (sales- and playercount-wise) so where's all this "let it die" coming from

[mild gulch]

try playing the game lol

bro is watching from bench

[thin lotus]

seems like a massive oversight

renaming "tickets" to "morale" is goofy too

[mild gulch]

why? its not like tickets was a real thing ayway

[thin lotus]

call it what it is. It doesnt matter what it's supposed to replicate

[silk igloo]

It seemed odd to me first, but its fitting. People already lose their morale in a match of warfare and lose solely because of that

[distant elbow]

lmao why add another game mode after skirmish failed miserably, and the game hasnt been fully optimized for alot of the maps too ever since the games been released. they should just leave HLL alone and keep it the way it is, OR fix the optimization before adding stuff like that. Id bet my left nut people only play conquest the first couple weeks then you wont find a server for it

[cosmic pilot]

It's 2019 all over again

[mild gulch]

its obvious they are focusing on vietnam

why split dev resources?

[finite berry]

What is this, I agree with Chum

[finite berry]

Nah

[silk igloo]

nobody plays skirmish because its not on rotation. i only got to play it 5 times or so

[cosmic pilot]

Gamers need to stfu about "optimization".
Optimize my ahh.

[distant elbow]

yeah skirmish was popping the first 2 weeks it came out, then poof "not in rotation" cause no one liked it lol

[cosmic pilot]

*none of the server owners liked it

[mild gulch]

The server owners have too much power imo

there arent that many servers so if you get banned its gg

[distant elbow]

id like not to fall under the maps on the crappy russian maps

[silk igloo]

you can always rent your own and have all the power. capitalism, ho

[mild gulch]

why would i?

[cosmic pilot]

Case in point, that's not optimization

[mild gulch]

id be even more abusive

[distant elbow]

falls in the category, if the maps not completed, its not optimized

[thin lotus]

Conquest will fail due to the same reason Skirmish did, and to the same extent to why Warfare/Offensive games are unsatisfying.
There's too much volatility present to how matches play out. There isn't a back and forth pull between teams without some cheesy "teleports behind you" action.
Adding a ticket system to Conquest won't remedy that problem. It'll likely just reinforce how bad HLLs systems are

[distant elbow]

someone with some common sense

[silk igloo]

turn your abuse into something creative, like having all non-tankers beside commander and engineers automatically kicked. bam, new tanks only mode

[mild gulch]

Ngl chum that just sounds like a skill issue

[distant elbow]

feel like they are trying to appease to a more casual audience too. trying to get people to vietnam as well, and its gonna be a tough release depending on when GTA 6 drops and all those other games coming this yeart

[thin lotus]

being able to counter bad game design doesn't make it any less bad design.

[novel geyser]

HLL has always been trying to appease the casual audience

[mild gulch]

thats just not true

[novel geyser]

BM abandoning their initial more hardcore "milsim" vision for the bland and unfinished mechanics the game was left with

[thin lotus]

it was always true lol

[winter rover]

It very much is 🤣

[distant elbow]

then they casuals come get killed from "no where" and they cant find anyone lol, its like the dude who said the steam sales have been good for it recently, yeah bro it was on winter sale lol

[winter rover]

I even consider myself a casual fps player and I enjoy HLL because it's not as quick as BF and not as slow as Squad44

[novel geyser]

a new mode isnt going to change getting killed from "no where" its not turning into a high ttk arcade shooter its literally just a new gamemode

[winter rover]

In HLL I can literally do my own thing, not use a mic and still have a good time

[novel geyser]

people are far too quick to yell "battlefield" and "cod" whenever something new gets added that shares a similarity

[distant elbow]

that will fail, just like skirmish and will be only but a memory.

[novel geyser]

We will have to wait and see, personally im looking forward to this mode, it seems to have more to it than skirmish

skirmish just doesnt have enough going for it, and was initially going to have less than 100 players in a match

[distant elbow]

dont get it twisted, i hope its fun and will be worth it, but i just dont see the game mode being played bby anyone more that 2 weeks

[thin lotus]

The piss easy gunplay of HLL will hinder this mode also

[lunar hornet]

Since its a 50v50 servers will probably just put one slot for it. e.g. 10 warfare 2 off 1 conquest.

That's where Skirmish failed you couldn't put skirmish inside your map queue

[novel geyser]

at this point I think its worth them experimenting otherwise the game will remain stagnant

[worn wigeon]

The conquest mode looks good but 5 objectives maybe too many. Also having smolensk as a map RIP to us console players that map lags like hell

[silk igloo]

the ticket bleed seems so low that you dont even need to capture any points to win, rather just stay alive together with your squad and get kills and revives

[distant elbow]

smolensk isnt even finished lol i fall under that map everytime i play it lol its so worthless

[novel geyser]

the new mode could easily slip into server rotations unlike skirmish
all depends if the mode itself is popular, skirmish was just kinda lame

[thin lotus]

your average pub lobby isn't going to suddenly band together to take back Control Points that are occupied by defenders. Players will spawn whereever there's a spawnpoint then get cut down by whoever's nearby on the objective

[winter rover]

smolensk is a terrible map imo. Both ugly and not a good design

[distant elbow]

bro all the russian maps are ugly

[silk igloo]

At least it's a better urban map since the straight streets make it easier to control and figure out where the enemy is

[lunar hornet]

Its almost like russian cities were shitholes

[distant elbow]

id almost wish that instead of the russian we wouldve gotten japan

[winter rover]

No just smolensk, the buildings and their textures look atrocious

[distant elbow]

still are to this day

[fleet jacinth]

Remagen Conquest will be "interesting"

[lunar hornet]

holy based

[silk igloo]

wait, are modern cities designed exactly against insurgent activities

[distant elbow]

you dont think so?

[lunar hornet]

Mum, new cancer just dropped

[lunar hornet]

no I agree with you

[winter rover]

Nah, the large cities are beautiful

[distant elbow]

i was about to say the big cities are dope, everything on the outskirts is wrecked

[novel geyser]

oh lord...

[distant elbow]

just give us a degestan map with the UFC roster lol

[winter rover]

You know what we need?

Italian maps and Italy

[novel geyser]

I havent played much smolensk but I do think its a very nice looking map
best looking map by T17 by far

[thin lotus]

look at the devs' Capture Point spread and layout for Conquest, then think about how 50 players on one team are going to be spread within it.
These match outcomes are going to be determined well before tickets are a concern.

[novel geyser]

monte cassino 🤤

[winter rover]

no way

[distant elbow]

why, so the itialian team can run away lol

[winter rover]

No because I love their weapons and maps?

[thin lotus]

Conquest is going to have the same issue Skirmish does. Adding more Points in play does not remedy it

[winter rover]

Doesn't even have to be an italian faction, giving the Germans some italian weapons is good enough for me

[distant elbow]

it was a joke saying all the italians did in the war was run away, but i get what your saying

[fleet jacinth]

By that logic the Americans should arrive in the map 30 mins late.

[winter rover]

Like, I really want the Beretta M38, was a better smg irl than the MP40

[distant elbow]

and completley mcdonalds and turn the tide i agree

[mild gulch]

Grease gun was the best

[vocal marten]

Anyone else wish the select fire switch was an option for the FG 42 in hell let loose? You can feather the trigger sure but I'd like to have the option to select fire.

[winter rover]

I wish it was an option in general for all guns that had it

[lunar hornet]

While we are all making demands, I want better british maps. The african campaign maps are just the worst thing concocted and Driel just makes me want to die

[winter rover]

And I wish you could range your sights

[winter rover]

Tobruk is decent

And you're getting Juno beach

[novel geyser]

very true
me wanty caen

Juno beach im looking forward too

They still have a lot of work to do to fix the british really

[lunar hornet]

That is the "best" african map. But its still awful.

[winter rover]

I like it imo, it's decent. Just not a fan of the sandstorm

[lunar hornet]

lagstorm

[winter rover]

Besides, we're getting a british map soon anyways - juno

That should be good

[novel geyser]

teeechnically canadian

the same equipment but still 🤓

[silk igloo]

both tobruk and el alamein are better than all normandy maps

[winter rover]

oh right my bad, the little maple leaf on their cap and canada shoulder band is a huge gamechanger!!

[lunar hornet]

True

[novel geyser]

green uniform ☝️🤓

[winter rover]

I thought the green uniform was a WW1 thing

[pine ember]

Bug fixes

[novel geyser]

ww2 also

[winter rover]

Oh, well didn't know

[novel geyser]

they also had a lot of mk3 helmets

[winter rover]

Still British in my book

[novel geyser]

in spirit yea

[pine ember]

They arent

[novel geyser]

I bet its a cheeky way for T17 to get around the mess that driel is

[winter rover]

For me Juno is just gonna be another british map

wait

Have I been saying smolensk was ugly this whole time?

[novel geyser]

yes

[winter rover]

Wait whats the new map that just came out

[pine ember]

Smolensk

[novel geyser]

smolensk

[lunar hornet]

smolensk

[winter rover]

what about the winter map

[pine ember]

Kedo summoned

[novel geyser]

elsenborn ridge

[lunar hornet]

elsenborn?

[pine ember]

Elsenborn?

[winter rover]

eastern front

[novel geyser]

kharkov

[pine ember]

Kharkov

[winter rover]

ohhh right yeah thank you

I thought i mixed the two up for a second my bad

[novel geyser]

kharkov is old at this point

[winter rover]

been months since ive last played

[pine ember]

Grease gun is 🍑

Kharkov is the best map imo

[novel geyser]

I think we can all agree mortian is THE ugliest map in the game right

[winter rover]

but yeah what i was gonna say is kharkov and stalingrad are the only good maps

kursk and smolensk are dogarse

[lunar hornet]

I like the look of Mortain. But everyone just camps in bushes so the map pisses me off

[pine ember]

I always forget about Mortain

[worn wigeon]

Grease gun is headshot magnet . Redeems it massively. Pretty good in the support loadoit

[pine ember]

Kharkov just perfectly captures eastern front warfare and is a pretty good SME equivalent map

[lunar hornet]

SME my beloved

[pine ember]

Stalingrad was good until they "fixed" it

[vocal marten]

Ahem. I've been saying this for a while but uh-

Bayonets please?

[vocal marten]

I actually like stalingrad now.

[pine ember]

Kursk can be a lot of fun if you have a competent team and use the trenches

[winter rover]

seelow heights should be another good one thatll represent the eastern front well

[lunar hornet]

❌ ❌ ❌ ❌ ❌ ❌ ❌

[vocal marten]

I LOVVVE kursk for the tank gameplay.

[winter rover]

lake balaton idk

[novel geyser]

truth nook

[winter rover]

I bet kursk with SPGs are really fun now

[pine ember]

And Smolensk seems decent though its clearly chosen for gameplay, its significance clearly stands behind Stalingrad, Kharkov and so on

[pine ember]

It is fun if you play it properly

[distant elbow]

gotta be blind

[lunar hornet]

Smolensk wouldn't be bad if the map wasn't completely broken

[pine ember]

Actually I have pretty good eyes

[lunar hornet]

Only tankers, arty and snipers enjoy kursk

[distant elbow]

neat

[pine ember]

Havent played it much but it always stuttered too much and I preferred the old one

[pine ember]

Im neither of them

[vocal marten]

Oh man, Add weapon sway, increase melee distance.

Would LOVE to stab some Germans as a ruski clearing house with the m91s Carbine variant, that's still fitted with the bayonet.

[lunar hornet]

Might need to get your head checked 💔

[silk igloo]

yeah because infantry is usually a horde of lemmings that like to grind meat

[lunar hornet]

The stuttering is a lot better than 2021

[pine ember]

Maybe dont use a SMG outside the trenches and dont run around like a headless chicken

[pine ember]

For me sadly not

[lunar hornet]

Oof

Stuttering has almost completely gone for me on stuttergrad

Still there but nowhere near as bad as smolensk

[novel geyser]

stop stop stop you're making me cry

[pine ember]

Smolensk actually runs pretty nice for me

[silk igloo]

could be just the shaders not loading anymore after you've seen everything

[winter rover]

Squad 44 has by far better QoL features

HLL is lacking in so many areas

[vocal marten]

It WOULD BE GREAT!

GIVE THE FG ITS SPIKE BAYONET !

[pine ember]

I just wish T17 would have had a different approach in 2023 so they wouldnt have needed one year just to fix the game

Even one and a half years

2023 could have become the best year for HLL but it was the year that broke the game

[lunar hornet]

2026 will be our year

[pine ember]

Could be but maybe 2027 will be the last year

I'd say the best was 2021

[lunar hornet]

I kind of doubt unless Vietnam has great optimisation. Idk I ain't buying vietnam

[pine ember]

I will neither unless the gameplay looks too fun

[winter rover]

I'm not even going to consider vietnam, I'm certainly not buying it

[pine ember]

I prefer WW2 or modern games

[mild gulch]

whats wrong with vietnam?

[lunar hornet]

Yeah I like the WW2 setting and I don't like the Vietnam war

[mild gulch]

racist or what

[finite berry]

Yes

[winter rover]

I'm not american

[pine ember]

Yes

[winter rover]

I don't give a crap about that conflict

[pine ember]

I am also not American and I dont care

Ngl if it was Korean war I would buy it

[lunar hornet]

Yeah its just American imperialism, entire war was pathetic. Would be best if history forgets it

[mild gulch]

yeah history should only remember the good stuff

[pine ember]

They didnt even win

[pine ember]

Like WW2

[mild gulch]

Crohny should become a historian, very smart comments

[lunar hornet]

I know my history

[mild gulch]

so why should we forget about the vietnam war

my grandmothers brother fought there

[lunar hornet]

Like I said American imperialism and I am sorry they were forced into a pointless war

I don't blame the soldiers for fighting, they didn't have much a choice

[pine ember]

Your family must be international

[winter rover]

It's important for you yeah but not for me

[past vortex]

was as much about russian and chinese imperialism tho

[echo karma]

Someone leak gameplay

[mild gulch]

why not?

[pine ember]

We shouldnt forget but I wont play the game

[open acorn]

guys, small question are the servers down?

[pine ember]

End of discussion

[mild gulch]

cause there arent germans in it?

to lose the war lol

[pine ember]

Remember, 6 hours

[winter rover]

Because it has no impact on me and it's on the other side of the world

[low bridge]

Having issues as well

[open acorn]

allright thank you

[mild gulch]

where u from

[winter rover]

Luxembourg

[pine ember]

No because it is not interesting for me to play games with that setting

[mild gulch]

Luxembourg haha u live in a tax heaven

[pine ember]

Why should I spend my sparse time with a game I am not interested in?

[lunar hornet]

Yeah not denying that, but it isn't an excuse for what America did. And the fact they tried to bully its allies into fighting a pointless war.

[winter rover]

Do you care about the Italo Ethiopian War?

Pretty damn important for the italians

[mild gulch]

yeah haha i do

[winter rover]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jim-halpert-face-7

[granite stream]

Anyone else unable to load HLL on Steam? I just get network error on startup

[low bridge]

Yup

[pine ember]

Vietnam will fix that

[mild gulch]

if germany was in vietnam they would have lost also

[pine ember]

Where?

[past vortex]

very interesting war

[digital vale]

Yep me2 and more members of my community !

[winter rover]

More interesting than vietnam thats for sure

[open acorn]

yeah me to

[past vortex]

maybe dont feed the troll everyone, btw?

[pine ember]

Keep trolling lil guy

[mild gulch]

keep losing wars

[pine ember]

Remember, 6 hours

[winter rover]

whats in 6 hours

[low bridge]

Is he Danish?

[lunar hornet]

👀 6 hours

[pine ember]

In 6 hours Opa drove trough Denmark and had a little vacation there

[winter rover]

opa?

[mild gulch]

dunno why you are proud of warmongering

[pine ember]

Yea, he got personal too earlier the day and disrespectful, I told him to stop but he didnt listen

[pine ember]

I am not proud

[low bridge]

Lol, good comeback

[past vortex]

he is a troll and you should stop

[pine ember]

Just remembering you that in a 1v1 as you asked for Germany defeated Denmark

[silk igloo]

im not proud of warmongering, i just enjoy it

[pine ember]

German word for Grandpa

[winter rover]

ohhhh

[mild gulch]

Germany had 10 times the population what do you expect

[winter rover]

german danish war reference

[mild gulch]

denmark barely has a military

[winter rover]

ahahgahhahaha

[pine ember]

And what do you expect? That you win against the whole world?

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-carell-thankyou-michael-scott-theoffice-thanks-gif-9222847

[winter rover]

get clapped

[vocal marten]

:P

[mild gulch]

no but you clearly did

[vocal marten]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-bloxy-cola-gif-19121716

[silk igloo]

the soviets outnumbered us far more than 10 to 1 in 1939 and they still couldnt take us

[pine ember]

I wasnt born back then

[low bridge]

I hear they are securing Iceland as we speak lol

[pine ember]

So keep trolling

[silk igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-if-you-love-finland-finland-i-love-finland-scream-finland-finland-scream-gif-496655312649171179

[pine ember]

Macarena intensifies

[mild gulch]

remind me who lost the battle in stalingrad

[mild gulch]

greenland not iceland

[low bridge]

Field Marshal Paulus?

[low bridge]

Ah ye

[pine ember]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-yo-momma-ya-mama-your-mother-gif-8950508997893541739

[winter rover]

You're danish?

[mild gulch]

greenland is part of the danish kingdom so ofc we are gonna secure it

[finite berry]

Dude, you're literally feeding him singlehandedly

[pine ember]

Why is it part?

[silk igloo]

the anti-communist free world lost it

[mild gulch]

part?

[low bridge]

Deep

[pine ember]

Of your kingdom? Why do you even still have a king? Did you colonize it?

[mild gulch]

yeah we have a king? dont you know anything about denmark

[winter rover]

america coming 😉

[low bridge]

Some guy on a boat went there first, that's I think what the claim is based on lol

[mild gulch]

Yeah tell me how america was founded

[low bridge]

I am Greek so who cares? I am just ragebaiting you lol

[pine ember]

I once was there even

[vocal marten]

So anyways uh, Who would like more build able defenses? Like anti tank or machine gun emplacements?

[mild gulch]

Maybe go fix your economy then. tired of donating eu money to you

[low bridge]

Hahahha, not an economy issue

[pine ember]

LOL, we donate it to you

[icy plank]

Someone say SDK?

[low bridge]

Corruption issue, feel free to send in the EU judges to take care of it

[winter rover]

ngl germany is a joke today

[pine ember]

It is

[novel geyser]

would be nice, I think engineers should be split into their own squads same with AT so they can focus better on a shared goal in the squad
mortars are also desperately needed and SPAs were a terrible addition

[low bridge]

Where is your damn nuclear powerplants

[pine ember]

But still a pretty capable and Rich Country

[worn wigeon]

Quick question are people without mics automatically muted? Why are so many people muted in my game?

[vocal marten]

I agree ^w^

[mild gulch]

we have higher GDP per capita than u so doubt it

[low bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/demolition-tower-tea-time-oh-no-gif-5511651740018832233

[pine ember]

That doesn’t matter

Germany is the third biggest Economy on this planet

That’s what counts

[mild gulch]

okay why?

[glass rose]

Russian data dump in the EAM is insane

[low bridge]

For whomever was having issues loging in, it's good for me now

[silk igloo]

You mean if people are muted if you dont have a mic? No? What?

[low bridge]

Power buddy, individuals can't do much. Per capita is nice when you're an individual

[worn wigeon]

There are lots of red symbols next to peoples names

[mild gulch]

i mean no offense but alot of people living in germany isnt loyal to germany or europe

[worn wigeon]

I havent muted them manualy!

[mild gulch]

turkish

[low bridge]

In ancient Greece individuals were called "ιδιώτες", it's where you get the word "idiot" from. But sadly, todays Greeks are also ιδιώτες

[silk igloo]

On the scoreboard? That's odd

[vocal marten]

Try going into settings and uh, disconnecting from voip.

Then reconnect.

[finite berry]

On paper at best

[mild gulch]

German food is terrible

[lunar hornet]

🎣

[faint portal]

what's the vibe on conquest?

[mild gulch]

haha it is cmon. fries with everything super greasy

[silk igloo]

interesting and concerning

[faint portal]

esplain ❤️

[low bridge]

German food is alright but they only got like 3 proper dishes

[pine ember]

You just seem to hate us

[mild gulch]

i just dont like curry wurst

[finite berry]

Ranges from "interesting, we'll see" to "no one asked for this crap"

[low bridge]

Danish food ig is the same as German food, though f me when I was in Copenhagen I would get a 20€ burger and it'd taste like nothing

[pine ember]

That’s Not the Only german food out there…

[low bridge]

At least in Berlin I was eating alright and cheaper

[mild gulch]

danish food isnt good either

[pine ember]

Nah it’s overall a lot more strange

[thin lotus]

referring to your country of birth as "we"

[pine ember]

But their Hot Dogs are nice

[novel geyser]

looking forward to it, hopefully is popular

[mild gulch]

whats wrong with that

[low bridge]

Best curry wurst I had in Berlin though was made from a Palestinian lol

[finite berry]

B*rlin

[low bridge]

If I ever go back I'll be looking for that shop, fries were also phenomenal

[pine ember]

They make up half of the Berlin Population so

[mild gulch]

but is he even allowed to serve pork

[vocal marten]

I agree. I'd like to see how it'll work, and hope that skirmish and it get more attention.

[pine ember]

Conquest seems nice so far but I have the fear that it won’t work that well in practice

[silk igloo]

You could win just by getting kills and ignoring the caps, which itself is not a bad thing if you did it together as a squad. That's at least much more viable and important, but its probably too much for a typical HLL player. Especially old ones who are so used to how the game plays, and always complain when something changes. And three jeeps is fun.

[crude slate]

anyone watch one piece? we still dont know wtf is Laffite after 1300episode

[lunar hornet]

Probably going to need a lot of work balancing. They really emphasise staying alive and waiting for medics - but I really doubt waiting for a medic to revive you will be more efficient than respawning and killing

[mild gulch]

the best danish dish is smørrebrød

[icy plank]

@finite berry play nicely

[faint portal]

that's my vibe too

I dont think there's anything wrong with new game modes imo so long as it focus' on large team battles

my bigggest feedback to far:
-HT's instead of jeeps
-need for more spawn density/vehicles to move obj
-far obj need to be 4 squares instead of full line
-half the build materials to promote base building
-get rid of nodes for this mode
-half the time to cap to 1 min

would like to test:
-"frontline" garries
-SL spawns
-vehicle spawns once obj are captured (transport truck/jeep or something)
-Spawns available at objectives?

(those are things that idk how they would work but would help balance slow movement of hll with more combat density throughout round imo would need to be tested)

[finite berry]

?

[keen glen]

sloptext

[mild gulch]

dude make ur messages shorter

AI generated

[faint portal]

idk how true that is tbh. I'd like to see the "death" count for a regular warfare match and compare 90min games on how many total deaths there are

but i tottaly agree tickets need to be balanced a bit better

[thin lotus]

ah yes, tickets will totally change how players operate.
lmaoooo

[finite berry]

SL spawns and objective spawns sound good. Could turn Conquest into something to help with new player onboarding

[thin lotus]

these devs are throwing things at the wall in prep for the next game

[silk igloo]

For most people its not, I think. Even now its a skill to discern when its worth it to wait for a medic and when not, but its much more important and easy in conquest since you wont lose a ticket by waiting for a medic, but you can still very much lose another right after respawning

[faint portal]

would love to see this become like a "seeding" mode? but i agree.
i would like to see it be a bit easier for new players but able to be viable for competitive matches too.
I just dont know how the tickets need to be balanced

[lunar hornet]

Yeah but if you're good at getting kills and usually have a high KD then waiting and risking the medic dying anyway - it just doesn't seem worth it. Same reason in Warfare its rarely worth waiting for a medic to get you. Just respawn

[faint portal]

i mean i respawn like crazy, so respawning costing my team would suck

i think what this would cause tho is more of a running sim.... which is annoying

[finite berry]

Gib tickets for all gamemodes :)

[novel geyser]

thats what they said about skirmish 🚬

[faint portal]

offensive about to end in like two seconds hahaa

[faint portal]

lets be honest. skirmish was not a 50 v 50 mode to begin with. doomed to fail imo

[silk igloo]

network error has occurredddddd let me in to hll

[novel geyser]

real

[faint portal]

however i did have some fun on that super small map test

hot take: gunplay in hll is not super great

[thin lotus]

not a hot take at all lol

[novel geyser]

offensive I think just needs something like 15 minutes added to the round timer on capture rather than a total reset.
Last minute caps on offensive are a paaiiin

[faint portal]

appeal is "combined" arms/coms in hll imo

[faint portal]

Chum agreeing with me on something. This needs to be pinned

[mild gulch]

how do i get a colorful name like you guys

[lunar hornet]

become gay

[novel geyser]

gotta be a special snowflake

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/the-breakfast-club-brian-johnson-anthony-michael-hall-cool-sunglasses-gif-4110995

[mild gulch]

havent slept with a man in over 5 years

[faint portal]

i just think less running/time in loading screen/death screen more "action" always.

[lunar hornet]

That's why you can't get the colourful name then

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/umpire-youre-out-baseball-yiure-outta-gif-6754792198617333041

[finite berry]

Players would have to adapt :D

[silk igloo]

gobbo confirmed 8 years old, slept on the couch with his father when he was 3

[novel geyser]

true
I want a successor to offensive where the points arent restricted to the same locations they are in warfare
less space between defense points and more condensed action

[mild gulch]

why would i sleep on the couch? i slept inbetween my parents

in the middle

[faint portal]

agreed, that's where i think conquest would shine
but to do that there needs to be more spawn opportunities.

Hense my proposal for HT's in EVERY game mode to start as a default spawn line up

[lunar hornet]

Can we have a kitchen sink mode where its warfare but all 15 points are in play

[midnight salmon]

did they fix any bugs yet kek

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/announcer-meme-announcing-meme-ball-knowledge-ball-meme-benjammins-gif-12241853788039925284

[silk igloo]

because you had a nap with your father who was tired after coming home from work. you had a bright blue t shirt with a chameleon on it. i can write this fanfic all day

[past vortex]

naw, his trolling is much too planned for an 8yo

[midnight salmon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/error-fail

[mild gulch]

its pretty normal to sleep with ur parents when you are a kid

maybe only if your parents love you

[silk igloo]

thats the point. its cute, gobbo is just a cute kid. who likes to bully germans for some reason

[midnight salmon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/nope-computer-crash

[midnight salmon]

average hll experience

[mild gulch]

tbh thought this community would be more welcoming and nice

[lunar hornet]

❌

[past veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1320450047002939428/1337907623307251823/attachment.gif

[lunar hornet]

Actually true, remove out of bounds and add 10 more points

[worn wigeon]

Will do! Just got kicked😔 from command

[vocal marten]

Happens to the best of us!

[winter rover]

Heros and generals was the best ww2 game

[past veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1320450047002939428/1474491508181963044/attachment.gif

[winter rover]

Would be cool having their world war feature in this

[robust valve]

I'm honestly really liking conquest because it gives squads way more freedom than they ever had

because with offensive or warefare you are restricted to one or two control points but with conquest you can actually be more decentralized

one thing I fear though is how morale loss on redeployment will be handled

[lunar hornet]

too much freedom

[robust valve]

nahhh just enough freedom..

[thin lotus]

no restrictions on garries?

[mighty pollen]

anyone elses clases reset to level 1

[brittle fog]

hey boys

[thin lotus]

this layout was so incredibly stupid. What was BM smoking

[brittle fog]

last time i was here devs and moderators were licking the asses of server hosts? did that situation change

[blissful mango]

And girls

[lucid rapids]

[stuck elk]

hello fellas

[mild gulch]

no the servers hosts are lunatics. the guy who owns tea and country has greasy long disgusting hair

[brittle fog]

yo bro

[brittle fog]

miimimim

thats all i see

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lunar hornet]

You may disagree but this is what peak gameplay looks like

[past veldt]

You don't enjoy being backcapped?

Glad i missed all of it

[wintry ingot]

Conquest as it sits is essentially a complete rip from battlefield, and its only slightly different than the game mode that we currently play in HLL. Just a thought to make a little different - side objectives to capture & hold, or to destroy, that change the rate of ticket flow or add/remove bonuses from the allied or enemy team. I was thinking for example, capturing and holding 2 or 3 radio relay station points that are not main objectives on the map can change how much can be seen on your map with recon abilities from the commander, black out the sector being held by the one team so that the enemy cant see enemy or friendly positions on the map in that sector, etc. And another type of point for destroy such as ammo/fuel caches, that inhibit and cap the total amount of fuel/ammo that can be gained by a commander until those points are rebuilt by engineers. Just a thought. Maybe too complicated, but sounds fun, realistic, and unique in my head

[stuck elk]

quick question i play medic and when i run to people most of them just hold F and redeploy is that just a normal thing?

[main lance]

this is the only correct response because it had a macro background game going on

[finite berry]

Yes

There is no reason to wait for a revive

[thin lotus]

"we're fighting... aaaaaaand the game's over. Wow what a great match!"
-No one

Also just from a movement callout perspective, everything being mostly directed in terms of diagonal cardinals is just so stupid. Glad they literally straightened out the map orientation.

[finite berry]

Playing medic is essentially pointless

[past veldt]

Yknow, some RPers will literally use their map and the compass rose to give cardinal directions still

rather than just using the compass on the HUD

[thin lotus]

if it's "upwards" on the map, it's "north" for all intents and purpose.
No point in wasting w/e the compass says. But RPs already live in their own bubble

people who use the bearings in order to orient themselves are.... slow gamers

[amber eagle]

garbage team17

[hard maple]

<why is nobody playing conquest?

[edgy gulch]

Once again HLL testing is only for pc and will completely break the console side of the game it’s like the developers don’t give a dam bout anything apart from pc

[amber eagle]

bro even the pc is broken af just delete the game and let it die

team 17 should just remain to worms and thats all

[hard maple]

Got no problems at all

but no people in the server

just 5

[smoky urchin]

I actually bath in pure animal fat, and when I'm feeling lazy I just run lard through my hair to keep it extra greasy.

I appreciate you noticing it, I work really hard to keep it greasy.

[mild gulch]

thought you blocked me big boy

[slate canopy]

It's a much lengthier process on console to have a testing ground.

[vale garnet]

im perm banned from that server anyway

[slate canopy]

It's still work time US 😫 I cannot play till later

[warm gulch]

Hey @fluid pawn kindly check DMs, got a business inquiry for the game

[warped pawn]

so who else is ready to make the "welcome to the Rice Fields MFer Good morning Vietnam!" edit when Vietnam drops?

[mild gulch]

Who owns this game

[finite berry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/584475715836051456/1434649080516317397/caption.gif

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/talk-lizard-ironic-gif-25847938

[worn wigeon]

Ive still had no luck. A few people were unmuted and talking but 95% of my team are for some reason muted. Its probably something wrong with my headphones as people were muted in my helldivers game yesterday too.

[hazy owl]

What a surprise

What worries me is they base their decisions on 5v5 matches cause there's no more devs working on this game

Those structures on the bridge from the trailer will never ever happen during 50v50

I bet you place a satchel under the bridge and it's all gone XD

[wintry comet]

will HLL vietnam focus on 1946-1954 aswell or only from 1955 till the end of the war

[covert elbow]

Matt’s wearing a camp hood shirt in the dev brief. Tank destroyers confirmed

[deft shale]

Because nobody asked for it or wanted it

Can barely get bluebs to defend 1 point. Good luck with 5

[hazy owl]

Conquest mode will suffer the same issues as warfare. Structures cost too much resources, take a long time to build but get blow up by a single satchel. HLL is about holding a territory and once a player dies there is a 10s punish + 5-40s spawn timer + running time. It makes no sense to wait for a medic risking the time wasted when the medic dies as well or just to even get there. It is always better to lose the ticket and hope you can return to your position in time. Medic will still remain very situational. That's my point of view

[deft shale]

If they wanted it to work they’d need to double or triple the map sizes and double player count.

Arma Reforger has it nailed down

[covert elbow]

Not to mention when you respawn you get all your ammo, explosives, and bandages back

[deft shale]

Only time a medic appears is when you need rockets or another satchel 😂

Yeah this new conquest mode is just another step towards COD and battlefield and away from Milsim.

Larger maps, more players, no ticket system, and more capture points.

An Arma style mode where the games can last for hours and hours. Incentivizes role playing, base building, etc.

[hazy owl]

Rather than perfecting the base game and already existing modes they think adding slop content will somehow bring more money. Maybe it does actually or why wasting dev time to make this. Or they don't know what to do. I thought player retention and selling in game content is the business model nowadays.

[hazy owl]

I've never played Arma. How difficult it is to dismantle structures?

[slate canopy]

Feel free to leave. We are not here to doom post.

[fallen ravine]

He kinda spitting

[hazy owl]

Conquest could be alright but they need to get rid of the grid for example and the fact your spawns vanish when the point is taken etc this kind of radical changes not some kind of warfare spin-off to lure in new players they will be completely overwhelmed by it since it is even more complex than warfare

30

Well why not like a BF and just make the capture point like a HQ spawn

[covert elbow]

I’m happy they’re finally adding a ticket system. Hopefully after some refinement it can get introduced as local tickets later on for the other maps

[static granite]

I’ll post what I want

[covert elbow]

Where does it say in the rules that is not allowed?

[static granite]

This game isn’t battlefield…….

[hazy owl]

I'm sorry but this is UK publisher there is no 1st amendment there

We can't complain

[finite berry]

People will flock to HLLV. En mass.

[finite berry]

That would be extremely based.

[slate canopy]

#5

[hazy owl]

Unless HLL Vietnam isn't another UE5 Concord/Highguard level slop

[unique wraith]

Rice Krispies treats are yummy

[finite berry]

Doomposting isn't misinformation, tho? Like, not trying to challenge mod decisions, but that's kinda a stretch.

[static granite]

If they even release Vietnam . Just remember gta6 was supposed to be released

[hazy owl]

Moreover WW2 has broader reach than Vietnam. HLL has still huge potential to grow by adding more factions and locations. Vietnam has no potential to scale.

[keen glen]

vietnam will be trash

anyone can tell this

they should have focused on something else

[hazy owl]

What do you think the price tag will be

49.90?

[finite berry]

At least, probably more

[static granite]

69,99 like every other game

[hazy owl]

US Dollars?

I hope Vietnam will bring more people to HLL and some others will return for a bit. There may be a couple of very busy days.

[thin lotus]

the release of a newer game wont increase the population of the older one

[dusty bolt]

There’s like 20 people on glows conquest play test server if anyone wants to play

[thin lotus]

perfect testing ground for the mode LMAOOOOOO

[deft shale]

It’s a lot of their gameplay decisions that have taken away the most players lol

[dusty bolt]

Better than the 4 that were on earlier @thin lotus

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[thin lotus]

4 was about how much they had in the devs' internal playtests

😂

"ship it"

[crimson bramble]

Ni en pedo gordos

[cosmic pilot]

@novel geyser you got me lol

[novel geyser]

:)

[hazy owl]

I bet HLL remastered as HLL 2 running on UE5 would bring more dough. Any Polymarket bets?

[dusty bolt]

Crcon update is sexy. Good job

[silk igloo]

i think this is a cope for every game. people buy a game based on hype, enjoy the chaos and learning experience of it, get better at it and it becomes routine, voice all their annoyances at every little thing that they never knew before, and wish the game was just like when they were ignorant of everything

[hazy owl]

Honestly don't even remember what's in it as I've been running these and other changes for months now

[silk igloo]

someone give me brain damage so i can play hll fresh

[hazy owl]

I like the routine I only wish they made positive changes to enhance it. For example some ideas I've written about https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1450084135862538261 some time ago

[silk igloo]

The routine is just something we learned and picked up on the way, like in every game. It's not the WOW that kept us playing

[obtuse dragon]

i wonder if the devs are going to release the objectives gamemode alongside the conquest mode

[hazy owl]

HLL is not a one night stand we're here for the relationship

[silk igloo]

yeah, the wow remains in the players we met along the way

[hazy owl]

Oh I treasure the moments when a German player enters your squad and role plays

Or just plays

[hazy owl]

The graphical indicators while capturing the point are buggy what do you think?

BTW I wasn't paying attention if the capturing points slowly return to the sector holder once enemy was eliminated and nobody remains in the capture point

[gloomy quartz]

You mean that AI slop?

[silk igloo]

It does return. The UI is the same as its in skirmish, bugged. Well, it's still bugged in warfare and offensive after all these years

[cosmic pilot]

come're

[silk igloo]

you're not qualified

[cosmic pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-in-hat-baseball-bat-gif-25723238

[covert elbow]

Wish I could but console moment

Wish server owners had the choice to enable crossplay

[dusty bolt]

Its not AI lol

[hazy owl]

I think AI would do better

[gloomy quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/sama-sam-altman-openai-sama-yapping-yapping-gif-7525532358145568607

[hazy owl]

I mean it the code is garbage but it kinda works and it's for free XD

[gloomy quartz]

Have you tried putting claude on full auto and prompting "fix it, make no mistakes."

[hazy owl]

That sounds like a bulletproof prompt I may try it one day

Do you work for Quonzer? 😂

[acoustic ravine]

how are you not banned here?

🧐

damn he been actin a good boi for the cookie

[gloomy quartz]

Not ran by jews

[acoustic ravine]

[gloomy quartz]

I reside in Pakistan are you sure?

Sure

[covert elbow]

Why are all the trolls coming out

Did someone post an event was happening on this specific server?

[acoustic ravine]

this gotta be him chatting with himself

[covert elbow]

Probably

[acoustic ravine]

are you an agent?

[covert elbow]

Got 15 alt accounts that he uses to talk

[acoustic ravine]

these competitive players always acting edgy and cool

[gloomy quartz]

hahahahhaha so trueee

[acoustic ravine]

🤣

[gloomy quartz]

turn into nerds when the stratsketch needs to be made though

[acoustic ravine]

whats a stratsketch?

[gloomy quartz]

Something people with a lack of gamesense need to not play like a dumbass

[cosmic pilot]

Lmao

[acoustic ravine]

Son,

This is not Counter Strike.

There is no gamesense here.

Only your Buddies and bullets flying over your head.

[gloomy quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1334218867525816412/1455631878848643186/attachment.gif

When the squad lead gives you an order you say sir.

[acoustic ravine]

🗣️🗣️🗣️

i prefer daddy

[covert elbow]

<@&365680483276816385> This guys advocating genocide

[gloomy quartz]

Sorry?

[acoustic ravine]

what

[onyx sierra]

they told me realistic and loud gun sounds was boring. They lied

to hide the concrete realities

[lunar rapids]

Reporting for duty type shi

[blissful mango]

Battlefield HLL

[mild gulch]

Got kicked out of 3 bars yesterday. Maybe those admins are onto something

[real parrot]

bruh, this game has like 20 times the need for gamesense to actually play competitive 🥀

[analog blade]

is anyone here having problems trying to post something in suggestions and u19 feedback thread? I am getting an error that content is blocked by server, then second time i try it seems to post it, and i get a timer for my next post, but the post does not show up

the exp branch feedback form does not offer room for the feedback im trying to give, we never managed to get the server full which i think is necessary to do the testing they are asking for in the form. Please give us a thread for other feedback, or atleast allow us to post it somewhere else

[gentle lintel]

@$$ is being filtered, try using butt instead

[narrow tinsel]

guys where can i Report players?

[smoky urchin]

Depends on what you're reporting, if it's a specific server then report it to the community you were playing in via their discord, usually a !discord will give you a link in game to go. If it's the discord you can reach out to an admin, If it's official servers then you're kinda out of luck on that one but you can try it and report it to their support team I suppose.

[wanton mural]

guys i bought the game yesterday sorry for the question but when do the official servers like europe go online?

[finite berry]

(don't play on official servers)

[wanton mural]

why lol?

[finite berry]

Unmoderated

If a cheater plays there, no one will ban him

[wanton mural]

and what servers do i play on?

[finite berry]

Community-hosted servers

[wanton mural]

any suggestions? i dont know any good ones

[finite berry]

Me neither, I just know the general rule of thumb to avoid playing on official servers

Someone else might know good servers, tho

[wanton mural]

alright thank you for the help tho

[slate canopy]

Good morning

[slate canopy]

As for community servers, I don't think I have had bad ones. You said you are EU right?

[glossy echo]

Will anyone play conquest at 6pm

Berlin time

[silk igloo]

in the event?

id imagine that it will be full

[wanton mural]

yep im eu sorry i was away so my friend bought the game before me and i watched him a few times he always joined random server and got kicked or killed by admins and we never understood why. thats why when i got the game we played officials because we didnt get kicked. maybe he didnt understand the rules or smth but idk maybe you know any that dont have any big rules

[cyan saddle]

Servers have mostly the same rules. Unless the server was still populating (below 50-70 players, often called "seeding"), servers don't tend to drastically change the way you need to play.

[wanton mural]

but why did he keep getting kicked?

[cyan saddle]

The only potential triggers that come to mind are certain level requirements for key/leadership roles

As well as the squad not having a squad leader and the server requiring all squads to have one

But in any case, it should give you the reason when you are being admin killed, and is likely to warn you beforehand through direct messages in the top-right.

[wanton mural]

weird well maybe he was just unlucky and picked the wrong ones

[cyan saddle]

There's some language-specific servers as well. For example, servers with [FR] in the name will often kick any non-french speaking players.

Just something to be weary about.

[silk igloo]

the world is weary of the french indeed

[past veldt]

Anyone but PBS right?

😉

[glass rose]

How many of you all want pizza ill buy the server

[gentle lintel]

👋

[median zephyr]

for tea and country is new player welcome and is base in europe

[iron flint]

hi anyone playing?

[gloomy quartz]

whats with this new lvl 1 bug

[median zephyr]

close and restart game your level will be back

[brittle fog]

are devs orking on a brand new game?

[keen glen]

they are adding new gamemodes im dying bro

[brittle fog]

you mean hll vietnam?

[keen glen]

This is the most effortless uodate

[brittle fog]

meh

typical devs.... they make 1 game and then milk the juice for the rest of their life

[past veldt]

New? I've had to leave and rejoin to play commander in comp for months....

[gloomy quartz]

Really xD

[past veldt]

Yrs

[gloomy quartz]

Great

[past veldt]

I've considered prepping other people to play it in case I couldn't

[wooden cloud]

got 50 of us playing conquest right now if any of yall want to join

[glossy echo]

It's stuck on the in the menu

How to fix

I clicked server but now it's freezed

Nvm I just don't think there is a loading screen

[slate canopy]

Two seperate teams - One for Vietnam, one for WW2

[brittle fog]

thats internal

[analog apex]

So... I see there was devBranch update as well as the Conquest announcement right after I left the town yesterday... 🥶 😠

[cosmic pilot]

How do you like it

[cedar shell]

So conquest:

Warfare with 5 active caps all around center point, ticket system, 2 minute to cap each.

I feel like this mode works best for competitive & hyper organized communities but will die in pubs

The skill ceiling is drastically heightened and punishment for poor performance is raised. It is going to favor experienced teams that stack and give weaker teams little recourse.

Feels like it is going to be a headache for commander to support all objectives well, if fighting is equally dispersed battles will be dramatically smaller and less intense. Not sure if this is the experience players want

[echo karma]

I don't think anybody datemmines this game

Is there a pts changelog?

Just the dev diary huh?

[analog apex]

yeah, just that as far as I am aware

[dusk drum]

hello guys so is it true that if i build resource nodes, they will passively increase my score throughout the game and at the end does that score count towards the current role im playing when the game ends, or just the engineer role i built the nodes with?

[analog apex]

So I see there tickets are pure global ones, without any influence on the local gunfights. Ammo still doesn't matter, tickets depletion ends the game. The worst & most boring implementation of ticket system I was talking about & feared of even before.

[slate canopy]

As long as those node stay up, the xp goes passively to the class you're playing.

[dusk drum]

so i can be the engineer who builds them, switch to lets say, machine gunner, will all those points passively made and the ones made from building nodes go towards machine gunner?

[analog apex]

sadly, yes

[slate canopy]

Yup, as long as those nodes stay up.

If those nodes go down, you don't get any more passive XP.

[dusk drum]

oh okay i always thought if i built it as engineer points go to engineer. everything i do AS engineer goes to engineer, not the role im playing at the end

with that logic, if i play tank and get 100 kills and swap engineer, will i get a heck loads of points for engineer? lol

[slate canopy]

Nope.

[analog apex]

it's the perverted logic of HLL

[analog apex]

no

because the points for kills you are getting actively, not passively like from nodes

[dusk drum]

ahhh, that makes more sense so if i get 100 kills as engineer, THEN the points stay on engineer, but if theyre passive theyll count towards whatever im currently playing

[analog apex]

the XP from nodes are the only XPs that are written to any class you play

everything else you get only to the class you made the XP with

[dusk drum]

ok thank you that makes more sense. However if a different engineer puts down a node build print, and i help him build it, do i still get the passive XP?

[slate canopy]

I believe it's because it's along the lines of nodes generate manpower/fuel/munition, so it's passively generating xp as well.

Nope, you get xp for the build, but not for the node.

[analog apex]

no, you get the passive XPs only for the nodes built from your own blueprints

[slate canopy]

THEY put the blueprint down, you just helped build.

[dusk drum]

ohh ok i didnt know that thank you

and here i was asking engineers to put down prints for me to help build for points haha

[analog apex]

and even if someone else finishes the nodes on YOUR blueprints, the passive income per minute still goes to you - it's just about the initial blueprints ownership, not about who finishes the nodes

[solid falcon]

Legitimate question for the devs of this game. Has it ever occurred to you guys to maybe, just maybe, fix the bugs that are currently in the game before adding in new content that nobody is even asking for????

[mild gulch]

if someone tries to finish my node i always shoot them

[dusk drum]

do i atleast get points for helping build nodes, defenses etc. not passive just points in general. and do they give a decent amount?

[slate canopy]

Wow, devs would never think of fixing 🫨

[analog apex]

devs don't talk here sadly

ever

probably they don't even look here much if at all, only the community manager Ben does with certianty

[mild gulch]

the devs hate us

[slate canopy]

Honestly, I don't blame them 😬 Imagine all the pings and yelling at them.

[mild gulch]

its like if god hated us

[analog apex]

I miss the times when old BM devs were still activelly talking to us. And there were no reasons to complain about them, it was an ideal status.

If today anyone would yell at the devs, sadly it's well deserved.

[wooden cloud]

it takes everything i like about HLL and removes it. No frontline and constant teleporting

[mild gulch]

do we deserve this punishment?

[dusk drum]

do you get points for helping build things?

[mild gulch]

When did we bite the forbidden apple

[slate canopy]

You do.

[slate canopy]

This may be slightly out of date in terms of point break down, but this gives you an idea of points: https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1280319709249540138

[mild gulch]

They should add golden skins. like if i get 1000 kills with MP40 i get it golden, would be sick imo

[slate canopy]

eh

[dusk drum]

a golden gun in world war 2? 😭

[mild gulch]

oh yeah forgot gold didnt exist in ww2

[analog apex]

would be stupid, such feature belongs to games like CoD or BF

honestly

[finite berry]

He's just ragebaiting, ignore him

[analog apex]

ah, right's it's that guy again 😄

[dusk drum]

hehe i remember you

[mild gulch]

lets hear your suggestions !

[analog apex]

I suggest ragebaiters should be removed from the discord server.

😜

[dusk drum]

is it because theyre ragebaiting you?

[analog apex]

nope, because of the general one

[mild gulch]

im a stoic

[cyan saddle]

rate my Kar98 skin

[silk igloo]

i was just typing about that

[slate canopy]

9/10. Needs more fade from red to yellow, not a straight line.

[analog apex]

Adobe PS work or texture bug?
doesn't look like gold anyway

[cyan saddle]

Neither

[silk igloo]

it says "custom test skin" as a fourth rifleman loadout

[mild gulch]

looks sick imo. fits the gritty world war 2 vibe perfectly

[mild gulch]

did they have it in the war?

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-go-my-scarab-whatever-go-my-true-scarab-go-my-scarab-morgan-freeman-gif-3091971228562826566

[dusk drum]

what do you guys think of conquest mode

[analog apex]

oh Jesus Christ

don't tell me it's true

what about a fckn custom laodout system test?

right, they would need to use brain for that one

[finite berry]

LMFAO

[mild gulch]

relax dude, dont play the game if you hate it so much

[finite berry]

I'm gonna actually laugh if that's real xDDD

[analog apex]

omg I found it, the stupid custom skin thing... it's really there

[finite berry]

Don't think it is, tho

[finite berry]

WHAT

show me

I need to see it

[cyan saddle]

But... I just have...

😦

[finite berry]

🫂 sorry, I still love you

[analog apex]

there's nothing more to see than on the picture above

[finite berry]

right

[analog apex]

no options... yet

[finite berry]

I assume it's on the testing branch?

[silk igloo]

its going to be stuff like clips strapped on, damaged stock, marks of kills, that kind of thing, im sure.

[cyan saddle]

It doesn't actually work in-game (in first person, maybe/probably it will in third person) if that's what you're after

[slate canopy]

I have the game open... It's true 😂

[cyan saddle]

But either way this is very obviously some very early prototyping

[slate canopy]

Also Abu and I are almost the same level 😲

[finite berry]

I like how it shows a colourful skin that looks like it got ripped from CoD

[finite berry]

Also my thoughts

And again, it's on the testing branch or in the actual game?

[analog apex]

so... are the devs really playing aroudn with the idea of turning the historical accuracy / authenticity of weapons and turning it into Cod/BF sh?t ? like wtf hey must be mad

I guess paid golden skins on the way rly

[earnest stirrup]

god i wish my opponents had shiny beacons in their hand

[mild gulch]

told you golden skins was a good idea

[analog apex]

no, it's a terrible idea

[earnest stirrup]

no gobbo is right let me kill more noobs

[real parrot]

I want a golden block skin for my Tiger

[mild gulch]

why is it a terrible idea? gold plated stuff has existed for a long time

[analog apex]

If they happen to be doing it, just for the money most likely. Not because it's a good idea for the game and its spirit.

[slate canopy]

UH

[finite berry]

WHAT

[slate canopy]

@cyan saddle This is ingame for that load out.

[earnest stirrup]

shiny 🙂

[cyan saddle]

Why does it work for you 🤣

[slate canopy]

I DUNNO

[analog apex]

maybe you need a specific textures quality to be set? who knows

[earnest stirrup]

all the brown and green everywhere and then all you have to pick out of a bush is the one purple pixel >>>>>>>>>>

[mild gulch]

looks amazing, christmas skin

[slate canopy]

Quite the grain texture.

[mild gulch]

bet it would sell good

[finite berry]

Interesting question is

1. whether this will make it into the actual game
2. what the skins eventually will look like
3. whether they will only be first-person or third-person too

[cosmic pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-pikachu-pokemon-shock-surprised-pikachu-gif-15357817

[finite berry]

No, this glorious skin only unlocks after taking 100 German OPs

...wait, Polar Bear is playing as a German

Truly a mystery xD

[mild gulch]

They should add emotes and stuff. maybe make it a dlc

[cosmic pilot]

Conquest as a game mode is fine

[slate canopy]

I'm sure they just picked those colors because it stands out, just to see how it applies.

[cosmic pilot]

It may actually be better than offensive ngl

[finite berry]

That's also my guess for now; I can't believe that they genuinely think adding such colourful skins is a good idea

In any case, this will certainly fuel the fire of the "T17 fix the game, don't add unnecessary stuff, focus on the veterans and the realism"-crowd

[mild gulch]

you dont play the game 🙂

[finite berry]

True 🙂

[cosmic pilot]

If you think warfare has a Frontline or game design that encourages it you are mistaken about the game

[echo karma]

I would pay more for a historical accurate muddy worn down k98 skin then a helmet

Insurgency sandstorm did this. Where they would mostly just put out gun skins that were slightly modified or old or worn looking. Idk now tho, I think they have full custom uniform skins

[echo karma]

Generally always has a Frontline on that next cap point no? When conq I think of bf games where mid point doesn't really matter so game flow is just gone right? Say you cap 1st point then enemy cannot get any tanks or vehicles out of spawn

[analog apex]

who knows, maybe (MAYBE) that is still a thing and not a golden weapon

at this point we can't rule out neither

but one never knows with T17 and the corporate greed before the good of the game

[past vortex]

i see they reached the next level of messup

[finite berry]

Again, I don't think such nonsense like golden skins will be a thing

That's so blatantly out of place that there is no way T17 would consider that

[past vortex]

are you sure

[finite berry]

Like, it's not even about historical accuracy anymore, it would just feel grossly out of place, and they know it

[analog apex]

I just don't understand... they may keep claiming they can't do this or that because of the spaghetti code, yet they are always able to do something they can sell even if it requires deeper code edits.

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/pato-si-patito-duck-gif-21160537

[finite berry]

Because it generates more income, naturally

Like, the motivation behind it is obvious lol

[fervent dagger]

Also optimisation is just generally way harder

[past vortex]

enlisted has the golden weapons only in the china version btw :D

[echo karma]

I don't think so that would essentially alienate majority of the playerbase rn

Any content creator vods on pts yet?

[wooden cloud]

i got you this weekend. played 2 rounds and gonna do an opinion one

[finite berry]

T17 should add gambling to HLL, it's gonna be fire

[slate canopy]

HLL Gacha? 🤔

[fervent dagger]

How's it feel so far?

[echo karma]

I'm curious to what Geb says

[wooden cloud]

Messy is the best way to describe it

[broken shoal]

Conquest more lile DOA

[thin lotus]

😬

[past vortex]

sounds like they will publish it as is :}

[echo karma]

Spawn campers hell lmao

Morale is tickets?

[finite berry]

Yes

[echo karma]

Rip hll

I see casuals playing this alot more tho

I forsee alot of spawn camping and backline garrisons from recon

If team cannot leave spawn then they cannot capture mid points at all

Do we know if you can spawn on already captured points?

Getting your Frontline garrisons wiped is gonna be very severe

[analog apex]

So... all 5 appable sectors start neutral. And we can't build garries while not capped by somebody. So anyone who wants to build a garri/garries, has to waste hsi time just waiting for the sector to be capped before building garri.

even when it's clear that for exampel the 1st sector closest to the team's HQ, will be capped by our team

the most stupid thing is, that in the red zone we are able to build a garri and spawn on it, but in the neutral zone we cant 😄

one would think it's harder in an enemy zone and not in a neutral one

[echo karma]

And the side cap points being vertical controll heavily suggests holding those

[analog apex]

not too much a problem in WARFARE, but in CONQUEST the neutral zone is just too big and far from the enemy as well, waiting in it to cap to build is boring

[echo karma]

Also 1st cap point is only 4 grids large

Basically your gonna cap a side point and rush a flank Garry on there 1st point and spawn camp.

[analog apex]

and placement of the strongpoints plays a big role in this - the bad design of 15 square-shaped sectors will be even more prevalent to be bad here

Foy for instance... they chose that map for the CONQUEST test and yet they kept the Westbend strongpoint located on the border of the German next line

[echo karma]

I forsee nobody playing this. 1000 tickets is very low too and no catch up mechanics?

[finite berry]

1,000 tickets is only low if you waste them

[analog apex]

I wanted tickets, but this is the most cheapest and boring way of doing them, I don't like the implementation either. Tickets depleted = match over.

[finite berry]

Otherwise, 1,000 tickets is plenty

[finite berry]

I agree

[pine ember]

Yea, its so f ed up

[echo karma]

You will lose plenty trying to recapture obj from behind

[cosmic pilot]

The points should not be evenly spaced

[analog apex]

Yes they should not, but the same the sectors should not be all shaped of square.

they should have different sizes and not be limited/set to 15 per map

[cosmic pilot]

I think there is an argument that there should be more arrangements for the 5 points

[echo karma]

The side objectives having full vertical Map control means you will prioritize those and build hella flank garries

[cosmic pilot]

Instead of always 3 mid, 2 center

[fervent dagger]

They did show off a different variant in the dev diary where it was one in the center and 2 either side

[echo karma]

And 4 grid 1st point means you lose your garrison asap

[analog apex]

they did not?

where? cause I see the same I saw in the test

[fervent dagger]

It was in the video.

[cosmic pilot]

My main concern is that 1000 moral per team is too little

[echo karma]

Map advantage is huge too

No catch up mechanics

You lose 3 objectives early and the game is bassicly over

[analog apex]

if they wanted to make dying to matter, this gamemode is a total misfire, the same as the OBJECTIVE gamemode test was

[cosmic pilot]

No

[echo karma]

The bleed is -6 per 10 secs? Game over

[fervent dagger]

That's only if they take literally all the objectives

[cosmic pilot]

At the risk of repeating myself, it's a larp to think that it makes medic matter more

[echo karma]

Holding 3 objectives for 5mins is game over no? You'll lose to many tickets plus deaths

[cosmic pilot]

No

[analog apex]

I like these options 😄
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/625321517487489034/1474865057492894007/20260221204000_1_-_Copy.jpg?ex=699b669f&is=699a151f&hm=bf727253d340045b52b2197bbedaafac4812cfce7f1f43dfd947526f5211c133&=&format=webp&width=1469&height=1980

[analog apex]

it doesn't, at all

[native sand]

Ah so I see they have gone to a squad type system, which will take this game even further away from back when it was great.

[pine ember]

Finally they gave us something useful other than DLC

[analog apex]

not while the tickets are so many and global - nobody really feels the effects of them and so nobody rly cares

[cosmic pilot]

Piss off

I'm tired of everyone that pops in here for an update only to complain

[finite berry]

Giving it a Squad type system would actually improve it

[finite berry]

Can I complain

[echo karma]

So 2 caps is -4 every 10secs. So negative 40 tickets a minute not looking at deaths. And 2 mins to cap? Idk boss

[analog apex]

we are only a mirror, if you don't want to see complaints, you should ask what are the reasons... because there are the reasons - and they don't come from us

[cosmic pilot]

All the little cockroaches come out of the Woodwork to say "you're making the game different" when that's totally the point of doing an update

[native sand]

Not really was much better when the original devs were developing it. Now its such a lack lustre game being run into the ground.

[cosmic pilot]

"you're making the game not like hedgerow warfare" is all these people have

[echo karma]

It doesn't seem balanced. Like skirmish 2.0. Games will end faster than warfare no?

[cosmic pilot]

You have my blessing

[wooden cloud]

So how are y'all feeling about Conquest?

[analog apex]

yes they did for as long as I was in the test a while ago just now

[fervent dagger]

Seemed generally faster but the matches that were played earlier were still like 40/50 mins

[wooden cloud]

We had like a few full games

[echo karma]

If 1 team holds 3 objectives it's basically a spawn camp fest

[wooden cloud]

Thats how you win. Hold 3 and dont move for an hour

[fervent dagger]

I think it defo needs some refinement but I think the core has potential

[cosmic pilot]

I only got to play a 10v10 yesterday and it was fine.
The UI is difficult to read was the worst part

[finite berry]

BM is responsible for the game being a mess in many different aspects (moving away from the realistic, actual mil-sim approach, adding half-assed mechanics); it's not like everything would be better if T17 wasn't there. That just feels like nostalgia speaking

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-gif-11816971814746635421

[analog apex]

maybe, but the starting base is already far off... I think too far for a simple refinement

[finite berry]

What do you think?

[wooden cloud]

I think in order to get that mode to work you need to rework a lot of what makes HLL... well HLL.

[deft cairn]

any updates on hll vietnam since the 1st trailer?