mess-hall

[finite berry]

I mean, they have a solid playerbase lol

[glass rose]

I wanna become like sergeant Barnes in platoon

[finite berry]

Player count is stable on for such a game pretty high even

[haughty geode]

Depends how you define "solid"

[finite berry]

I mean, they do buy it eventually lol

[finite berry]

Like I said, stable and for a game like this it's pretty high even. Several thousand players on average (!) is no matter of course

[haughty geode]

I barely saw anyone buying and using the new DLC besides some war correspondends

[finite berry]

Anecdotal evidence never has been a strong argument

[haughty geode]

The older DLC are still far more popular and used

The new ones arent even that good anymore+

[finite berry]

That's your opinion

Who cares about the identity if the numbers are looking good for T17?

Also, the identity that you want (and that kind of existed for HLL years ago) has been gone for years

Like, look at World of Tanks or War Thunder. They release blatantly broken vehicles and mechanics that obviously break balance, result in poorer match quality and opt for new players to immediately buy vehicles they can play.

It actively makes the gameplay experience worse and moves away from the games they once were

But it's the right thing to do if they want to increase revenue

And T17 is doing the same

It's only natural and logical.

Don't like it? Perfectly understandable, but move on then, because the old times ain't coming back

[pine ember]

Hes got a point though

[vestal nimbus]

its so pointy in here

[pine ember]

Sure the numbers might fit but its not exactly clever to stop trying appealing to the players that played the game for years

What would you say if Squad 44 suddenly gets more players but is less harder?

[finite berry]

Then I'd have to deal with it or I simply move on

[pine ember]

No one is saying that getting new players and revenue isnt important, sure it is important but there would also been have a way to do that without getting that many problems into the game, making the game far more casual or less historically accurate

[finite berry]

From T17's perspective, it's absolutely clever

[pine ember]

Maybe then some would have left but more would have stayed for sure

[pine ember]

Sure, sure

[pine ember]

Please explain

If you only care about a large amount of money in a short time, then yes, its clever

But if you really care about your game, I wouldnt say thats the smartest way to do it

We could have gotten more skins whilst staying accurate. We could have gotten new updates without that many issues. Communication was hard for a few months since they had no CM, but a bit more communication wouldnt hurt either

[vestal nimbus]

yeah we need more US skins

for us ww2 collector boys

[pine ember]

We already have enough

[vestal nimbus]

no

[pine ember]

Only ones that "need" more uniforms are the British and Canadians

[vestal nimbus]

we need 1st airborne and Arnhem map

[pine ember]

Yea, anything than more US stuff

The game has 19 maps in total and over half of them is US based, thats too much

[potent locust]

how do people play this game without losing their minds

[vestal nimbus]

i got the pnz grenadier and the ss flektarn camo but being drippy like that gets boring in a while

[past veldt]

Almost like the game was based on Band of Brothers

[pine ember]

Panzergrenadier is Flecktarn too

And they arent that drippy

[pine ember]

Yawn, boring

[past veldt]

Games are 90 minutes long, and at any stage you can leave a match. Other wise you just lose your mind

[pine ember]

If you add more factions then give us a good amount of maps for them

[hollow orbit]

hi all, new here 👋

[vestal nimbus]

bob is one of the most overrated shows when it comes to ww2 collecting

[potent locust]

i mean just like, i walk 3 feet from spawn and die immediately

[past veldt]

Ahh well, that'll happen sometimes. More often you have the opportunity to win an engagement and move on though

If you're dead to a random explosion, you just get over it

[keen glen]

skill issue 🫰

[past veldt]

Doesn't mean much except another 20s wait

[vestal nimbus]

stay low dont sprint until you have to

[echo karma]

FYI 10k players is money to an indy dev. More than pays for the servers

[keen glen]

my average lifespan is 21minutes

[echo karma]

Get gud

Play like cod and get rekt

[keen glen]

👶

[past veldt]

Honestly half the people in here who say get good have 0.2kpm and 0.2 k/d

[finite berry]

They care as in they make money. Take a look at by WoT/WT example, it explains it quite well

[finite berry]

Welcome :)

[potent locust]

you see people say 'get gud' and then proceed to not give any useful information on the subject matter whatsoever

[echo karma]

Game ain't about tk bro

[past veldt]

Because they're not actually good either

[potent locust]

rekt

[past veldt]

If your spawns are bad, the only true solution is to take SL and have better ones

[grizzled meadow]

Hi chat

[echo karma]

5 kills or 10 gary kills?

[past veldt]

Sometimes that means solo locking SL and hopping into a supply truck for 5 minutes for 2 garrisons

[pine ember]

I wouldnt say these are good examples of games and community management either

[echo karma]

Only comp players left tho. All they care about is kd

[past veldt]

True

My KD as commander is absolutely vital to success

[keen glen]

buying a gaming laptop is the worst decision i have ever made

[finite berry]

But they are successful

[analog apex]

economically

[finite berry]

Yes, and that's what matters

[analog apex]

to them

[native plover]

Morning targets lmao

Y'all ready for war in presidents day

Let's do this

[finite berry]

Again, that's what matters.

All of this "T17 fix HLL already" is, no offence, delusional

[native plover]

I wanna salute the Seabees and 2nd armor division for accepting me as one of their natorious Bastards

👀 👀 👀 👀 👆

Ujustbenjaxed

[broken shoal]

Conquest mode should have no hud. No pings.

[vale garnet]

Get good

[steady vessel]

When WTH sign up for seasonal?

[vale garnet]

Maybe we do, maybe we don’t

[steady vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/michi-michillio-cat-cat-meme-cat-kiss-gif-14957316509625952047

[vale garnet]

Depends what the gang decide

[rich turtle]

anyone know a server that doesnt have a age restriction and is active

[past veldt]

I've won 70% of my last 200 matches across my main and alt accounts

Too many of them are pubs

[vale garnet]

Well I shoot stuff so I’m cooler

[past veldt]

Trueeee

My alt is averaging 1kpm in pubs

Basically good enough for frontline inf nowadays

[vale garnet]

Sad times we live in

[past veldt]

Might load up HUDSight so I can get to 1.01kpm

[vale garnet]

I got 95 vs greyhounds yesterday be proud of me crit

[past veldt]

I'm proud, son

Rifleman?

[vale garnet]

Ty dad

[past veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179085355681595474/1458122424863428881/attachment.gif

[vale garnet]

Sniper, also satchelled siege and got a couple Garries

[rich turtle]

anyone know a server that doesnt have a age restriction and is active

[vale garnet]

I don’t know any that do have an age restriction

[rich turtle]

Name 3

Pc

[vale garnet]

Circle servers

SYN servers

PF

13SNC

Mikeys marauders

I can keep going

[rich turtle]

And they all have no age restrictions

[vale garnet]

I am yet to see a single one that has an age restriction

Only restriction I see are levels for sweat servers

[rich turtle]

Ive been looking in pc recruitment and all are either inactive or age restriction

[vale garnet]

Oh that’s clans not servers

[rich turtle]

What the difference

[vale garnet]

You can play on the servers without being in a clan

[rich turtle]

Can you send these

I’m in espirt de corps gaming

Is that a good 1

[vale garnet]

Bruh who’s alt are you

[rich turtle]

???

I’m new I’m not a alt

[vale garnet]

Well you’re not “in” ESPT

[rich turtle]

I am

[vale garnet]

because they’re all like 35 and only recruit through vouch system

[rich turtle]

No I’m in the server

I’m not part of the team

[vale garnet]

When you play on a server most of them have their discord links

[rich turtle]

Can you send some

[vale garnet]

Ngl if you’re under 18, I doubt many clans would accept you though

[past vortex]

most clans also wont accept anyone who cant tell a server from a clan :}

[vale garnet]

You would be amazed

[atomic pendant]

We have no age restrictions for the server or the discord

And the server is new players friendly and populated every single day

[molten sail]

https://tenor.com/view/shmil-s-half-life-combine-pick-up-that-can-can-gif-22262138

[keen glen]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-evil-cat-apoth-apotheosis-combine-gif-17169116478421915581

[thin lotus]

🥱

[slate canopy]

Next time please DM!

[rich turtle]

ok can u send it

oh shoot

i used ur tut for hell let loose

[atomic pendant]

That was a one time exclusive invite

My bad tho, forgot that was not allowed

[analog apex]

Lucky me then that I never said such thing. 🙂

[finite berry]

Didn't refer to you there either :D

[analog apex]

I never said you did! 😄 😛

[acoustic ravine]

what kind of comparision is this?

5 burgers or 1000 billion dollars ahh

[acoustic ravine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/820667653802688537/1447864855599251501/mnvv3a8IS1ycF51VwKTzopFGHeE-VTf_MmsaNDBmYGo.gif

[finite berry]

Ah, found someone with the "T17 fix your game already" take

[acoustic ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/erm-aksuali-veli-vel-nerd-nerd-emoji-gif-11908435316515627035

play the game first

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/jakobglanc-gif-26492901

[small sleet]

<@&365680483276816385> can we get help? There is a cheater that has been there for month and he's actually killing everyone using admin rigths with no weapons, can you guys help?

[worthy charm]

The mods here are not ingame mods

[small sleet]

Do you know how I can get an actual mod to do something?

[river rover]

We ONLY moderate this Discord.

[worthy charm]

On official servers? Those do not have moderation.

[river rover]

If on Community server you can contact their own Discords or sites.

[small sleet]

thx guys.

[river rover]

Unfortunately Official are FREE FOR ALLS. 🙁 Need to play specifically on Community and use their admin calls within game and their official sites.

[zinc vale]

Any idea if the rubber banding vehicles, grenades, supplies have been addressed? Or is it going to take a year for them to sort it out

[harsh egret]

If it only takes a year to fix, that would be a milestone marker of progress for T17.

I've been waiting 4 years for them to get the game to stop crashing in 30%-50% of matches. I don't recommend holding your breath. You'll die.

[forest sparrow]

Why can't I get into warfare is there something bugged

[wind shore]

Just go on enlist

[hazy shadow]

WHATS WRONG WITH WARFARE AND OFFESNSIVE SEARCH ON PS5 SAYS IT CANT FIND A GAME FIRST TIME ITS EVER HAPPENED BEEN ALL DAY… are people really not playing

[wind shore]

Go on enlist and find a server

[hazy shadow]

I am

I don’t like map rotation

With official warfare and offensive search you get more variety like night dusk dawn and more maps

I’m in a server that map votes tho so it’s not bad

[shell bone]

Am I losing my mind or do some of the Glow’s Battleground servers not let you use the MG42, even if I select it I’m still spawning with the MG34

[finite berry]

based

[pine ember]

MG34 is more fun anyway

[covert elbow]

Balanced to

[pine ember]

Depends, the US has the M1 as the default gun so the Germans get the better MG

I once heard it’s successor firing

[dusty bolt]

Yeah don’t play on official servers

[heady escarp]

My ex will never find me in this chat. I'm so happy

[wind shore]

Found you

[heady escarp]

😂 😂 ahahaha

[grizzled meadow]

Just finished my first match on foy
First message I heard was some white kid dropping the N-bomb hard r

We won tho 👍

[pine ember]

Nutcrrrrackerrrrr?

[cinder barn]

anyone tryna tank?

[slate canopy]

Lots of community servers.

[nimble pelican]

Warfare 🙁 my men need me

[thorny forum]

Looking for someone to build a milsim with.

I’d prefer previous milsim experience.

DM me for further!

[glass rose]

Hm

[wooden parrot]

How we doin

[wooden parrot]

Workn on one as well lol

[covert elbow]

What’cha got so far?

[wooden parrot]

A good lot

Workn on makn it look crispy

[covert elbow]

Oh nice, me as welll

You going for a MilSim or MilSim lite?

[wooden parrot]

Mix

Im not all about crazy milsiming but using good tactics and organization is a benefit

[covert elbow]

Fair!

[wooden parrot]

Gotta figure out how to host a server

[covert elbow]

Gonna cost money

[wooden parrot]

yerp

[past vortex]

not on roblox

[keen glen]

just use your own pc as server its free

[past veldt]

Might struggle to do that with HLL

[analog apex]

In other news... 😏
What's your take on the Discord's teen-adult changes in the next month?

I fear most of the people from not just HLL discord server, maybe will just disappear. Maybe even I myself as well, as I am pretty reluctant in giving any ID to Discord company and not sure yet how much access I will retain.

[finite berry]

Bad change, but it probably will not have as many consequences as people believe it will have

[wooden parrot]

I see a benefit is children wont have access to stuff they shouldn't but I also find it as a breach of peoples personal data

[finite berry]

Children will find ways around it anyway

[wooden parrot]

Yeah so its primarilly a breach of personal security

How does one become a division leader

this got my dumbass confused lol

how do i add a dedicated HLL chat lol

[novel geyser]

the safety of negligent parents' children shouldnt come at the cost of everyone elses experience online
the age restriction and ID verification laws being put in place are unsafe as is for data protection and the government cant regulate every site on the internet

[real parrot]

Not only that but it also open the doors for a represive goverment to pursue the population

And other corruption practises

[finite berry]

First and foremost, it's just a tool of control, and I don't like that

[finite berry]

This

[novel geyser]

yup

[silk igloo]

It's not like they will manually go through millions of users, and not like they develop their own algorithms for detection, so they'll use the cheapest one that can be easily fooled

[analog apex]

exactly, but only by those who will not be giving them their ID... 🫤

[silk igloo]

facebook, for example, cant tell the difference between a real person and a porcelain doll

[red coyote]

Anybody foolish enough to send official docs to discord is wildly numb... they have ALREADY had issues with leaked personal info xD

[cosmic pilot]

When pte branch

[lost olive]

I need HLL vietnam

Now im notnasking

[gentle lintel]

im afraid to ask what notnasking means

[robust python]

lmaooooo

[dusty bolt]

Good morning chat. Who up gooning this fine morning?

[gusty fable]

Oh wow forgot about this game

Anything new?

graphics, gameplay, factions?

[sick bramble]

AAA price for mediocre product? 🥀

[slate canopy]

When you last play?

[gusty fable]

Late 2024

[winter rover]

You didn't miss much then, a few maps and the SPG update

[latent musk]

Why are we moving to a new game type with the game in its current buggy state. After the last update I have had a ton of UE4 crashes on top of the lvl 1 bug and the tanks doing kickflips. I feel like priorities may be a little misplaced.....

[analog apex]

they are

[latent musk]

It feels like they are rushing to test as many game mechanics on us while they develop Vietnam. A little shady of you ask me. Didn't pay for a product to become an unpaid play tester.

[finite berry]

Why would they fix it lol

It still sells enough

[past veldt]

I mean, in the year prior to announcing Vietnam, they doubled their avg employee amount per Companies House. Literally free and public information to see they essentially just created a new team to be able to do both Vietnam and WW2

[sturdy quarry]

well that could mean anything, 90% could work on vietnam and 10% on HLL

[thin lotus]

Doubled
Now it’s 4 employees

[grizzled kiln]

It's the janitor working part time on HLL. He's doing his best, no hate ❤️

[thin lotus]

Clean it up!

[keen glen]

same with polish people

[crude phoenix]

Matches don't work for me lol

[finite berry]

Usually it's fairly easy, just scrape them hard and fast enough alongside the striking surface

[crude phoenix]

I mean it won't enter

It crashes

[prime spear]

hi what does the PWD mean on servers?

[finite berry]

Password, perhaps?

[prime spear]

maybehaps

[prime spear]

you know what, fair enough!

youre funny i laughed thanks

[red coyote]

ooooo thats much nicer than 'Players With Derp'

[slate canopy]

PWD is password.

[finite berry]

yippee

[slate canopy]

It would prompt you for one if attempt to join

[slate canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/zazu-zazucoin-zazu-sol-gif-9411508918569035196

Let's not.

[latent musk]

I have been having the UE4 crash issue as well. I noticed that Microsoft dropped a security update around the same time as the last game update. After updating my graphics driver last night I didn't have any crashes after that. (Had one instance that was close though)

Knock on wood

[river rover]

ℹ️ AMD CHIPSET DRIVER 8.01.20.513 RELEASEDℹ️
https://www.amd.com/en/support/downloads/drivers.html/chipsets/am4/x570.html

[tall kettle]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Some players may experience the following issues during Steam's routine maintenance:

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[abstract lichen]

how long is each match of the shortest gamemode (me forgot name)?

[finite berry]

Skirmish?

[stark violet]

Game just keep crashing man

[winter dagger]

hello troops

we are searching for a soldier to fill in the gap of our squad

the battlefield? the summoners rift

@scarlet linden

[slate canopy]

Why you ping ModMail? 🤔

[winter dagger]

heh... i dont know what you mean soldier? dont you mean, the commanding officer?

[slate canopy]

... Yeah no. You can find folks to join your group in #pc-looking-for-unit

[winter dagger]

sir yes sir!

[tall kettle]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE NOW ENDING** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Steam maintenance has now ended but some issues may still remain until a game restart

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[grizzled meadow]

Why are half the pictures posted in this server AI

[slate canopy]

Maybe chat about that in #base-camp ? We have a HLL Vietnam chat 🙂 (Get the vietnam role in id:customize )

[zealous hound]

yo

[sour relic]

Recently tried to play HLL again and then noticed that only about 24 servers are on the list. I have noticed when steam friends play a different server than which is not on the list i can join that server and it shows on the “friends tab” I have tried the following:

• Adjusting the browser ping in Steam to all of the values,
• Turning off/on the anti virus program,
• Turning off/on the firewall,
• Verified the integrity of the game files in Steam multiple times,
• Reinstalled Easy Anti Cheat multiple times,
• Reinstalled the whole game multiple times. Anyone else have experienced this and have some sort of a solution?

[keen glen]

use the filters on the top of the server list

u probably have something filtered

[sour relic]

No checked that too, that was the first thing i did.

[analog apex]

do you have crossplay setting option enabled in the game options?

(it's not a crossplay between consoles & PC, just crossplay between PC clients like Steam, EPIC... if you're on PC)

[sour relic]

Yes that i have that enabled, switched that on and off, restarted the game. Switched back on and still the same

[analog apex]

hmmmm....

considering also the other stuff you mentioned, no idea then 🙁

[sour relic]

It is weird. I went into steam HLL server list and there it only shows those 24 random servers too. Some EU/UK and some US, not all the same ping for example. 🤣 just strange

[keen glen]

send a screen shot of ur servers page

[crude slate]

can we get a Warhammer 40k Version of HLL?

[real parrot]

That would be a Squad mod, probably

[crude slate]

never played squad, issit better then HLL?

[real parrot]

I wouldn't say so, but is more complete and have more realism

[keen glen]

no its trash

[real parrot]

Also th

[keen glen]

its just running simulator

you run more than you play

[real parrot]

the m1a2 can't climb a 5 degrees slope, so I uninstalled

[keen glen]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-dog-brian-dog-cooked-wallahi-im-finished-cooked-dog-gif-1849480349705279416

[finite berry]

It depends on what experience you want

It's more realistic, I'd also say more immersive, but also more punishing

[finite berry]

If that happens to you, it's a skill issue on your end

[keen glen]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-spongebob-patrick-smile-spongebob-patrick-spongebob-patrick-neptune-gif-15553908463759634649

You're probably used to wasting your time

[finite berry]

Nah, I just know that a good SL can place decent rallies and take care of strategic FOB placement which severely limits running time :D

[covert elbow]

Always funny when people say this because you automatically know they don’t know how to play the game lmao

[finite berry]

Plus, not my fault if your attention span can't handle anything else than "spawn in and go pew pew immediately"

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-go-my-scarab-whatever-go-my-true-scarab-go-my-scarab-morgan-freeman-gif-3091971228562826566

[hasty ferry]

Any groups playing rn?

[real parrot]

Me after people cannot use transports:

I love transports, trucks, halftracks, battle taxis, but they are rarely used in games and makes me sad

[covert elbow]

I just wish MG’s couldn’t destroy trucks and bazookas weren’t everywhere so they could be useful

[real parrot]

What I cannot stand about Squad is that it has the same wonky mixture of realism and engine limitations as Hll

[covert elbow]

9/10 times you use a Halftrack or truck you get blasted by a rocket, tank, or MG

[real parrot]

But is even worse for tanks

To the point an MBT cannot climb a half meter incline

Is just bonkers

Also the driving system itslef is akward af

I'd rather play either wold of tanks of VBS4 at that point

[crude slate]

man, since we pay the game. they shud just let us get all the equipment

the leveling took a long time

[finite berry]

Huh

Why would you get access to all equipment just because you paid for the game xD

[crude slate]

cuz i want to boom boom now, not later after 100hours of leveling.

[finite berry]

Then grind harder and faster

[crude slate]

... zzz .. kk

what happend to the bridge map?

[past veldt]

Remagen or Driel?

The answer is nothing for both though

[latent seal]

Looking for a clan

[finite berry]

#1343089641489961001

[latent seal]

Just shows a bunch of clans, doesn’t give any info on any

[finite berry]

You can click on those, naturally

[keen glen]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-minions-popcorn-day-laugh-gif-5026739

[finite berry]

You don't even play the game :D

[analog apex]

running is a part of the play, we already have enough of teleporting

where's Chum when you need one 😄

he usually grabs onto every "magical table teleporting behind you" type of comment

[finite berry]

you don't need one

[glossy echo]

dev brief today?

[mild gulch]

they need to buff the flamethrower

maybe double the range

[crude slate]

wdym nothing? they remove it? I just came back after 6 month

or maybe the war hasnt reach there yet? (Map rotation idk)

[sturdy quarry]

they mean nothing changed.

remagen will likely get a refresh at some point this year according to roadmap. refresh = attempt to make performance better but actually make it worse.

they are still in the game just some servers rarely play them, probably why it is being refeshed

[silk igloo]

They need to make it so that you can freely aim the braced flamethrower, and the turning is limited only when actually firing it.

[mild gulch]

My grandfather fought in ww1

[crude slate]

how do u lvl up fast?

[analog apex]

they already have

I would say any larger range and it starts getting unrealistic.

[mild gulch]

not at all, they could shoot up to 45m irl

[covert elbow]

What’s the current range?

[covert elbow]

The US M2 flamethrower had that capability because it utilized napalm instead of the usual gas or petrol systems the other nations used so it wouldn’t make sense for anyone other than the U.S. for it to go 45m

[analog apex]

no idea about the numbers, I just know it's quite larger in comparison to what we had before

[silk igloo]

33 meters, I think

[covert elbow]

Yea that’s about normal

[vale garnet]

Also the flamethrower is just dumb anyway

[covert elbow]

If they want to buff the flamethrower it needs a heavy suppression buff and flames need to stick around for a long time

[analog apex]

and to spread in the buildings at least a bit

[covert elbow]

Would be a neat detail if it’s used indoors or entrances it started to deplete the oxygen in the room and causes the occupants to die after 10-20 seconds with their vision blackening

Would make that thing terrifying

[mild gulch]

how is it dumb? its awesome

[crude slate]

how does the exp works, if we quit early does it count?

[analog apex]

you get all XP for the** roles progression** even if leaving early, but without the post-match bonus you will lose a lot of XPs of career progression you could have get otherwise

[vale garnet]

Because why take flamethrower when as axis you take the mp40 and can drop explosive ammo and a box, as allies you take either a garand or grease gun with explo ammo

Both are infinitely more useful to your team

[mild gulch]

tbh i dont care about the team. its an awesome weapon just wish it was stronger

[vale garnet]

Okay and that’s the end of that conversation

[covert elbow]

Thats how it works in HLL. Because of it’s damage systems it makes no sense to take one weapon over the other because one is just objectively better

It’s why automatics are king in this game

[mild gulch]

automatics arent king. they fall off pretty hard

[vale garnet]

STG is the best gun in the gam

[crude slate]

when they adding planes?

[mild gulch]

yeah if you cant aim

[vale garnet]

Only thing close is the FG scoped

[silk igloo]

It just needs to be easier to aim and suppress enemies. They could also increase the number and size of flame projectiles it fires, if doable. Maybe increase the height of the flames, and have them produce black smoke. Also, the flame can be seen through smoke which is nonsense and gets you instantly shot.

[covert elbow]

3-4 shots to kill is super easy at most ranges your fighting

[mild gulch]

You can 1 shot with most guns

[covert elbow]

And even if you can’t hit all your shots your ROF makes up with the spray plus the all mighty headshot

[vale garnet]

Clear a whole Garry wave with a garand

Try it, it’s not so fun

[mild gulch]

thats why you have grenades

if your gun needs to be automatic you need better postioning and aim

garand is a great gun

[vale garnet]

Yes, I need better positioning

[covert elbow]

Hit registration gamer

[vale garnet]

I definitely do I’m sooooooo bad

[analog apex]

unles hitreg problems, which are happening pretty often

[covert elbow]

It’s made bolt actions pretty much useless

Just today I found a German standing next to a tree 10m away and shot 3 rounds into him

Guy didn’t even look at me and he was fine

[analog apex]

then we have a lot of assets with inaccurate hitboxes which stop the bullet in thin air or make the hit a penetration hit, halving the damage

[vale garnet]

Smolensk has the worst hitboxes I’ve ever seen

[dusty bolt]

good morning chat. who goonin

[covert elbow]

Not to mention things that shouldn’t stop bullets stopping them like sheet metal and fences

[mild gulch]

a poor soldier blames his weapon

[vale garnet]

I mean I can send you a VOD of my last comp game and you can tell me I’m bad but okay

[mild gulch]

send me a video of you taking 20 pushups

[covert elbow]

Ah, your a troll

[analog apex]

this poor soldier is always on or at least at the top of the boards, I am sure Alf as well

[covert elbow]

My mistake. I thought we were having a meaningful conversation

[mild gulch]

No i really dont think automatics are that good. the m1 is great

insane range 9/10 1 shots

fast firerate

[vale garnet]

If you’re at the ranges where you have 1 shot as your whole argument, you’re playing like a pussy

[covert elbow]

Counter argument, I can just send a burst of automatic fire and not have to worry about it

[vale garnet]

W key and be in 1 shot range with your STG ez

[silk igloo]

I suspect that some parts of an asset can count as two penetrations. Like if there's a wooden stick behind a metal sheet, the stick will stop the bullet and vice versa.

[covert elbow]

Plus if I’m in close quarters I can easy outfit a bolt action or semi-auto because while they have to rack a new round or get back on target I just spray them down because ammo is not a problem in this game

[mild gulch]

i dunno what matches ur playing but you would be dead 10 times over in mine. this isnt cs go you cant just run close range everytime

[vale garnet]

I play in a top 3 team and in the highest level tournaments but sure bud

[covert elbow]

Maybe, but it’s the fact that these are stopping bullets at all

[mild gulch]

spraying and you give your postion away, dead in 2 seconds

[covert elbow]

You ever seen 30.06 go through a tree? It’s like the things made of paper

[mild gulch]

never heard of you

[covert elbow]

You absolutely can and people do all the time

[silk igloo]

It's working as designed though, only one penetration allowed per bullet. Increase it to two, and you could hose through most buildings, I suspect

[covert elbow]

The ratio of semi-auto’s/bolt actions to automatics is like 8-1

[mild gulch]

its not effective

[covert elbow]

Ding

[covert elbow]

Well it’s bad design

[vale garnet]

I think he’s just a weird rp troll acc no point xD

[finite berry]

True

[covert elbow]

Considering the AI PFP I’d assume so

I never trust anyone who has it

[finite berry]

Flamethrowers often suffocate the enemy, not burn them, many people forget that

[covert elbow]

Hollywood teaching the wrong lessons. Same as people thinking flamethrowers explode when shot

[silk igloo]

The car is going to explode! Quick, throw the driver out and snap his neck

[finite berry]

Never

[finite berry]

Dude, I hate flamethrowers exploding, it makes no sense

[mild gulch]

sure call someone a troll instead of proving me wrong. just shows im right

boring ad hominem

[covert elbow]

I’ve alreasy said why automatics are better in every way

[mild gulch]

yeah which is incorrect

[covert elbow]

Why is it incorrect

[mild gulch]

i told u

[vale garnet]

I found his stats page the dude is AWFUL don’t bother

[finite berry]

Automatics are the best weapons, trust me, I know

[vale garnet]

0.3 kpm and talking about shooting is sad

Most kills in a game 41

[mild gulch]

wrong profile for sure

[covert elbow]

[vale garnet]

Nope it’s you, same profile pic and everything

[mild gulch]

i have copycats

mine is private

[vale garnet]

Plays on for tea and country, trash server too

[mild gulch]

i cant even access that server. perma banned

[covert elbow]

Because… checks notes…

1 shot range, “get better positioning”, and “shooting you weapon gives away your position”

[vale garnet]

109 total lifetime matches

[finite berry]

🎶 I wonder how, I wonder why 🎶

[vale garnet]

Oof

[covert elbow]

This guy also only has 25 messages in this server lmao

[mild gulch]

whats your point

[vale garnet]

104 hours of hll total ouchhhh

[finite berry]

I mean, not surprising, he joined today

[silk igloo]

the flamer is handy against default garris. especially when you're speeding in a truck, just hop out and swoosh

[vale garnet]

He’s played 2500 hrs of rust though

[mild gulch]

Played since alpha

[silk igloo]

i wonder if it destroys arty or not

[mild gulch]

it doesnt

[lucid gazelle]

mod tools?

[covert elbow]

Confirmed to be not coming

[lucid gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/的9-gif-12565004940729182637

[mild gulch]

hll isnt about kda, its about objectives and teamwork

[vale garnet]

Gobbo, come back with an opinion when you can get 90 in a game thanks

This from the guy who said “I don’t care about the team”

[finite berry]

True lol

[mild gulch]

sure i can get 90 if i camp like you

i could get 150

i play for the team

[vale garnet]

I don’t camp but okay

You clearly don’t play for the team

[covert elbow]

Nowadays it is

[vale garnet]

You actually don’t do much of anything at all looking at your stats

[mild gulch]

go to call of duty if u care so much about KDA in a team game

[vale garnet]

I thought you don’t care about the team? Silly boy

[covert elbow]

All it takes to win is the commander sending an airhead behind the point and then winning because the enemy team runs off to the attack objective

[mild gulch]

if i had to choose between flamethrower and helping the team im choosing the flamethrower

[covert elbow]

If they really want to help this games balance airheads need to be taken outback and shot

[vale garnet]

Airheads are useless if you have any def players

[mild gulch]

no no they need to attack to get more kills. who needs defence

[covert elbow]

And it’s incredibly powerful if you have a team of def players

If something is either broken or useless, then it’s horribly balanced

[mild gulch]

not really. just means it situational

[cyan saddle]

The best part about these discussions is that I can't tell if either side is baiting or not

[covert elbow]

But it’s not situational

It either wins the match or does nothing

[mild gulch]

but that does make it situational tho

[covert elbow]

Pretty much every single match I see nowadays is won because the other team got an airhead off

And having to babysit the sky’s for a plane and parachute to drop is just unfun

[cyan saddle]

Easy there bucko

[vale garnet]

Wow I’m allowed to state facts

[mild gulch]

Cool lets be ableist in chat

[shy relic]

Is the official servers down?

I just keep searching for a map forever

[main harness]

@vale garnet did you say mean things about me the other day?

[vale garnet]

I would never do such a thing

[main harness]

You better not

Because I will put you over my knee and spank you

[vale garnet]

Jack was being mean about you

[main harness]

Yeah but Jack is american so it doesn't really count what he says

[vale garnet]

He said he’s gonna join ESPT to get away from you

[main harness]

Jokes on him, I am already in espt. @main lance vouched for me

[vale garnet]

How many handjobs did that take

[lime umbra]

XDDDDDDDDD Alf you really fell for this bait? XD

I cant believe hahahahahahhahahaha XDDDDDDDDD

@mild gulch can u 1v1 Alf pls? Show him how bad he is

[main harness]

Idk they gave me 3 or 4 and I thought that was enough so I joined.

[mild gulch]

Im not baiting + bigger king von fan than you

[vale garnet]

Bro why have you woken up from gooning to Sanzu go back to sleep

[main harness]

Where is sanzu

[lime umbra]

Cuz I saw ur cringe messages here in response to some random troll XD It's hilarious

[lime umbra]

He is ruined I guess 🙁

[vale garnet]

PV no?

[shy relic]

Anyone?

[lime umbra]

Not really, he got bullied in PV too

[vale garnet]

Probably selling to a new market to pay off his debt

[mild gulch]

which server u play on @vale garnet ill smoke u

[lime umbra]

He is playing on New Players Only

And some HLL Official Servers

[vale garnet]

GHN blue tomorrow night come thru

[main harness]

probably for the best

[mild gulch]

im not talking to u lol

[pine hull]

who are you?

[lime umbra]

Who are u?

[finite berry]

He should 1v1 me

[main harness]

I can make the same claim since Helios finished 3rd in HCA right?

[shy relic]

I was wondering if it’s just my I internet or something if it’s down for everyone

[main harness]

I might put it in my discord profile so people know

[pine hull]

and who are you?

[vale garnet]

Du bist hurensohn

[mild gulch]

never heard of GHN blue

[finite berry]

*ein Hurensohn

[lime umbra]

it's like a For Tea and Country but worse

[main harness]

I play in a top 3 team and in the highest level tournaments

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/db-sprich-deutsch-gif-2870836225094027755

[vale garnet]

Much worse

[vale garnet]

False Helios do not exist

You play in a div 2 team and in the second highest level tournament

[main harness]

Alf how do you respond to claims you use a crosshair overlay?

[vale garnet]

Who says that 😂

If they saw my hipfire they would not say that

[main harness]

I cant reveal my espt sources

[pine hull]

the press

hlltv wrote some articles about it

[echo karma]

Who tryna gobble my glizzy on hll?

@fluid pawn when pte. Been a week since tele

[keen glen]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[vale garnet]

Hlltv would be cracked

[pliant oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/keep-going-deer-eating-popcorn-eat-gif-15811803

https://tenor.com/view/deer-buck-gif-23709353

[main lance]

@main harness is a tanker and British, you cannot trust anything that man says

[analog apex]

I returned here after 40m+ but I smell CoD stench here... 😏

[mild gulch]

never played CoD sorry

[analog apex]

flamethrower is very situational, no use for it in open grounds anyway

[mild gulch]

should be buffed tho noone uses it and you have to be level 8 support

[pliant oasis]

You are obsessed with that useless weapon ngl

[novel geyser]

it could do with faster look speed
but the flame thrower is pretty bad in most situations

[mild gulch]

thats why im saying it should be buffed

[analog apex]

I have had it unlocked for so long but I use it very rarely. Usually combining like SMG kit, unpack the ammo boxes, then switch to flame.. if at all.

[mild gulch]

shouldnt be useless

[main lance]

If flamethrower got 40% ads speed buff and 66% turn speed increase I would use it multiple times in comp matches

[real parrot]

The way the character cannot turn while using the flamethrower is just hillarous to me

[analog apex]

buffing ADS speed would be something I wouldn't have problem with 👍

[novel geyser]

you can tell how out of touch Black Matter were with their own game when they added it, it has so many downsides that seem like they're trying to balance it as if it would be OP

[real parrot]

"But I can destroy nodes!"- T17 after flamethrower "buf"

[mild gulch]

I think the range is the problem and the spread

its too narrow. like taking a piss after getting herpes

[real parrot]

Making fire more persistant would also help a lot

[worthy charm]

Whaaaat, BM were so much better than T17
-# /s

[novel geyser]

they should totally sell HLL back to BM

because they'd tooootally take over again

[worthy charm]

I ran around in the backline for 45 min once... got like 1,7k Combat score

[mellow knoll]

They weren't

[analog apex]

range? no
spread? yeah maybe

[mellow knoll]

Sadly. Took years to make any new content, botched some of said content

[analog apex]

and more botching ahead of us still surely 😄

[mild gulch]

and it needs toi be able to fire faster, like less delay

[worthy charm]

/s = im being sarcastic

[mellow knoll]

They weren't perfect, but gotta respect em because they did make the game exist x)

[mild gulch]

tbh the flamethrower lacking is holding the game back alot

[novel geyser]

haha good one

[worthy charm]

The ragebait is amazing

But it used to be believable

[analog apex]

if it wasn't that obvious

[novel geyser]

this channel should be renamed to ragebait-hall

[mild gulch]

im not joking. i spend 100h getting support to level 8 the normal way just for the flamethrower to suck

[worthy charm]

tempting

[analog apex]

imo the progression system should be different

but wouldn't change much about the flamethrower for that point

[mild gulch]

tbh weapons should be unlocked at level 1

[novel geyser]

role leveling gets so unnecessarily slow past level 4/5

I dont really get why they gave support the flamethrower

[vale garnet]

Don’t even know why they added it at all

[novel geyser]

would make more sense for either assault or engineer really

[mild gulch]

its a support weapon. makes alot of sense

[vale garnet]

It’s almost as dumb as the SPA

[mellow knoll]

I wouldn't say that. SPAs dumbness is 100x more xD

[novel geyser]

well, support is the guy who provides supplies
machine guns are also support weapons, but support doesnt get them

[mild gulch]

Different types of support

[novel geyser]

combat engineers (I believe) were usually the guys who'd get flamethrowers

[analog apex]

you mean the JRL... javelin rocket launchers xD

[mellow knoll]

It does make sense, yeah.

[mild gulch]

Tbh every class should have a flamethrower, very iconic weapon

[novel geyser]

support in game to me seems more like a number 2 for the squad leader, provide supplies and on a squad level ammo (though not really that useful other than explosives)
Flamers dont really encourage team play

[worthy charm]

Yeah... Not clue why they gave it to support. Change it now would only make people mad.

[novel geyser]

good

[mild gulch]

nobody uses it anyway

except me

[worthy charm]

Im using it

[novel geyser]

I have one for home defense

[mellow knoll]

I use it on close-quarters maps

[mild gulch]

copycat

[mellow knoll]

anything else, no ty

[worthy charm]

No one expects the flamethrower on foy

Or hill400

[novel geyser]

or any map

[worthy charm]

Or any other open map

[vale garnet]

I have never used it in a comp game

Maybe change that when I next play

[worthy charm]

Comp is weird tho

[mild gulch]

yeah yeah Alf we get that you dont play the game for fun

[vale garnet]

Is it that weird?

It’s the same just most people know what’s happening

[analog apex]

in comp it's more about collective fun, not a personal one

[mild gulch]

isnt normal games about that too

[vale garnet]

I find comp fun, way more fun than pubs

I actually enjoy my comp games

[analog apex]

hard to achieve that with a bunch of randoms without mics who don't listen or respond to you, yet one needs to keep trying

[mild gulch]

you wouldnt enjoy it against me. id smoke you

[novel geyser]

comp probably would be more fun when it comes to playing the game somewhat properly. But I have a thing against comp so I'll suffer with pubs

[analog apex]

I would love to see that 😄

you don't seem to have an idea who you are talking to
tell us when & where so we can watch

[novel geyser]

I'd rather the game improve its mechanics to force more teamplay
for a game that tries to make a big deal of teamwork there are a lot of ways to solo things

[vale garnet]

Tbh I kinda agree but also when they try to add “teamwork” elements they all suck

[novel geyser]

then they should do them good :^)

[mild gulch]

i dont think anyone knows who he is

got alot of ego tho

[vale garnet]

I also don’t know how you add teamwork to a game where you’re alive for like a minute or 2 at a time

It’s just a grind cycle until one side breaks a lot of the time

[novel geyser]

part of it is gunplay, HLL guns are too accurate, increase time people are alive by making guns less like laser beams, better suppression, less zoom for long range guns stuff like that
there are ways but people wouldnt like it because its different

[vale garnet]

I would enjoy no zoom on sights unless scoped

I don’t think you need more suppression I don’t want this to end up like send

[thin lotus]

“Collective fun”
Lmfao is that where players are with this game

[vale garnet]

Squad*

[mild gulch]

Its realistic tho. the guns were accurate

[analog apex]

there he is xD

[vale garnet]

My fun comes from no scoping people and singing badly

I am enjoying myself

[thin lotus]

Gun were accurate.
So was teleporting onto tables and getting revived after getting mowed by a machine gun

[novel geyser]

but then theres things like artillery
mortar squads would be better and require teamwork,
tanks already take a good bit of teamwork but people still try and solo them
I think aswell changing up the way squads are would help
https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1448306088670789763

[mild gulch]

whats ur point? its still a game and they need to have certain mechanics

[vale garnet]

Or just remove rifleman altogether

Rifleman and medic go, allow 2 assaults or something

[novel geyser]

theres too many roles crammed into the standard infantry squad meaning every squad can deal with every situation, and the task is left up to just one guy

[analog apex]

☝️ this
I suggested something similar as well in the past, the game would benefit from such stuff

[novel geyser]

nah that is the worst take

automatic rifleman should go

regular rifleman needs to make up the bulk of a team

[vale garnet]

Auto rifle can be useful

[mild gulch]

yeah automatic rifleman is the same as assault just worse. should be removed

[vale garnet]

Rifleman is just meh

[mild gulch]

there should be a dedicated flamethrower role

[vale garnet]

I’m learning BAR and it’s fun

[novel geyser]

he is completely pointless, most of his loadouts can be given to assault or MG

[thin lotus]

Yeah, the game needs better mechanics than just ridiculous extremely easy laser beaming.

[vale garnet]

You could say the same for rifleman though

[mild gulch]

Its ww2 most people were riflemen

[novel geyser]

not really, a rifleman gets a rifle and spare ammo

[mild gulch]

would be a fantasy if you removed them

[novel geyser]

also this

[vale garnet]

Most people were logistics not rifleman

[novel geyser]

but this game depicts frontline troops

[mild gulch]

now you are being stupid and you know it

[vale garnet]

Add extra support

[mild gulch]

most frontline men were riflemen

[vale garnet]

Double drop off a single spawn would be hilarious

[heady hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[vale garnet]

Imagine having a single red zone SL who can build a Garry anywhere any time

[vale garnet]

Hey! Sunday was very fun thank you trotche

[analog apex]

there's our new slave role 😄

[novel geyser]

red zone garrisons need to go

[vale garnet]

The FG went brrrrrp

[vale garnet]

Absolutely not 😂

[heady hornet]

absolutely not

[analog apex]

but they can't, because of the totally bad "sector vs strongpoint location" design

[echo karma]

Imagine the V meaning something else

[novel geyser]

then that should change too :)

[mild gulch]

they need to buff barricades and building times. its too slow

[heady hornet]

no red zone garry meta almost killed the game. Defenders advantage to strong

[mild gulch]

maybe add trench digging

[analog apex]

nonSquareShaped sectors would be great and fair

[novel geyser]

I could cry

[echo karma]

These mfers can't change an existing map. No way they attempt that

That butchered studdergrad

[novel geyser]

am I not allowed to dream

[analog apex]

sad truth

[heady hornet]

not possible because the code wont allow it. Hope for HLLV to step away from it

[mild gulch]

i hope they add cool traps in hllv

[analog apex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/625321517487489034/1378439866177683496/TacMap_Foy.jpg?ex=6996ad6a&is=69955bea&hm=5c299eeb9a7c4eb0f265bd58fe6aa47a326d8564f0e8f126f52c9d2e664da1fd&=&format=webp&width=960&height=960

[echo karma]

Driel probably the best map they released but BM made that soo

[heady hornet]

#justiceforoldhurtgen

[analog apex]

my beloved map 😄

[novel geyser]

HLL if it was a good game

[heady hornet]

welcome to foxhole

[echo karma]

Foy is perfect tho. Just like smdm

[heady hornet]

maybe on consoles. Where people cant aim

[analog apex]

I love that map as well (Foy). But a one experienced tank crew can wreck it up.

[vale garnet]

IMO the most fun map to play is SME

[echo karma]

Probably all the base launch maps are goated

[novel geyser]

foy is decent

im kinda sick of most of the normandy maps

just because of the US really

[echo karma]

They nuked omaha adding the boats

[analog apex]

the map I love the most is SMdM, most fair strongpoints too I would say

[echo karma]

Wahhhh I'm getting spawn camped cuz I can't build a gary

[vale garnet]

Not even close to fair

AA network is horrible as allies if the axis team have any competence at all

[mild gulch]

I hope there is gonna be flamethrowers in HLLV

[echo karma]

Foy offensive aa alamo is peak

[mild gulch]

or atleast agent orange

[analog apex]

relatively
most of all other maps are much worse

[echo karma]

I don't mind a lop sided map either. Makes it more realistic

[analog apex]

Utah's midpoints are a joke, SME mid favours Allies, Checkpoint the Axis

Foy... Westbend 😄

[mild gulch]

realistic? the germans are using WW1 symbols

[echo karma]

Can't have an ss to save our life

[mild gulch]

silly to censor history like that

[echo karma]

There won't be any French in V either

[mild gulch]

thank the lord lol

[vale garnet]

SMDM is less balanced than SME

[analog apex]

meh

[vale garnet]

there’s a reason it’s rarely played in 1 leg comp games anymore

You cannot win as allies unless the other team makes a huge mistake or you do something insane

[analog apex]

but the access to the midpoints is fairly balanced

[vale garnet]

Not if you have half decent MGs on axis

[echo karma]

Phl German arty spam. Balanced

[novel geyser]

tbh they both feel the same to me...

[analog apex]

if you have one team of noobs vs another team of experienced (or any bigger skill gap), then that applies to all maps

[vale garnet]

I can actually see the east allies truck all the way to Pierre’s and kill it with an MG

I’m talking even skill

Axis win SMDM 75-80%

[analog apex]

I wouldn't say so but honestly whatever there, I admit I don't have the numbers

[mild gulch]

I always go for realism so if Axis didnt win the battle irl ill sabotage the team so we lose

[novel geyser]

HLL basically wanted to be foxhole but without the huge day long matches
they gave up on that idea lol

[analog apex]

more baiting?

😄

no, you are serious ofc

[mild gulch]

joking =/= baiting

u must be fun irl

[analog apex]

yeah, like Lurch from the Adams family

[mild gulch]

havent watched it. is it the chick with black hair

[analog apex]

https://tenor.com/view/you-rang-gif-20538562

that's Lurch

(at least how I remember him from that old TV series I used to watch as a kid)

[echo karma]

Lmao

[thin lotus]

There was early deliberate changes made in order to direct the majority of players to combat over the same area. BM learned quickly that the pipe dream of having a network of players in full cohesion spread about the map was never going to happen outside of a “competitive” scene.

Hll has always been about stuffing an objective with players from both sides, and the majority faction winning as a result

[mild gulch]

i heard its about kda

[vale garnet]

Easiest way to win in pubs is just stuffing the soft cap with everything you have

And rely on the other team not being able to do the same

It used to be the case in comp too but sadly the meta has become more wide and slow

[thin lotus]

People vastly overthink what you need to do. Just get to an active objective as a group and don’t die.

[mild gulch]

lol you can reduce most games to that

[thin lotus]

Yes

[cosmic pilot]

Ban rooftop mgs

(you won't)

[vale garnet]

Why would you?

I would like headglitching to be gone, but an MG on a roof is a normal play

[echo karma]

Wait till he figures out tank on roof

[vale garnet]

The MGs still need some fixing but meh, they’re not as bad as they used to be

Most of the time now if they can shoot you, you can shoot back

[novel geyser]

months are made out of days

[vale garnet]

Foxhole is incredibly boring

That is absolutely not happening

[novel geyser]

I last played it aaages ago and the top down view makes infantry combat pretty jank

hit reg was bad too but that might be fixed

[analog apex]

yeah, even bigger meatgrinder as the amount of active objectives would surely stay the same
no thx :/

what I miss, is a mode without any tanks. There were big battles where tanks didn't take a part in.

[novel geyser]

I would quite like a historical mode that gives teams more accurate access to equipment, mainly for things like if a team has access to tanks or not

[harsh egret]

lol are people still talking about adding to and changing this game? 😂😂😂

Game is in total shambles and hardly works. Crashes constantly. Stutters and rubberbands all over the place. Please add the Italians!

[mild gulch]

the italians did nothing in the war

[harsh egret]

Its always something. Pacific, adding game modes, new maps even though half the maps they add are totally unplayable. It is just insane. I've never seen a community like this one that is so accepting of the unacceptable.

Reworking years old mechanics at the back half of a game's life cycle is a perfect example of how disconnected from reality this has become.

[mild gulch]

game is only 5 years old

[harsh egret]

I don't know why I even stop to check in anymore honestly. I don't expect it will ever change for the better.

[harsh egret]

You think it has another 5 plus years of life? My statement stands.

[mild gulch]

Actually i do. ww2 is almost a 100 years old and people still like it

[harsh egret]

Except when they divide their own playerbase with Vietnam and then literally any other good ww2 game comes along that doesn't run like pure dog doodoo. Good luck with that.

[mild gulch]

game runs fine for me. maybe buy a pc that wasnt made in second world war

[harsh egret]

Bro doesn't know the xbox logo I guess.

[vale garnet]

Console was a mistake anyway

[harsh egret]

They sold a faulty product to a huge segment of the market. Mistake indeed

What's worse is all the gaslighting of consumers after the fact, and the sheer ignoring of the issues. Unacceptable.

[past vortex]

idk how you can use "fine" in relation to hll perf

[past veldt]

Why say top 3 when there's only 2 teams

How are you coming 3rd in a 1v1

[vale garnet]

If anyone could find a way it would be you

Now come back to comp

[past veldt]

I've ascended

[vale garnet]

Not even to command, come SL

[past veldt]

(playing pub HLL on an alt to beat lvl 300s into submission)

[vale garnet]

SL flank you’d love it

[past veldt]

I actually still like commander

Genuinely my favourite role still I think

[mild gulch]

people who play on console cheat anyway with all the aim assist

[vale garnet]

Tbh I wanna become a full time spotter, just get to be a sneaky boi

[past vortex]

arty observer is clearly the best now :}

[past veldt]

No Garand no party

[past veldt]

Low-key spotter is fun

[past vortex]

ok thats kinda true

[past veldt]

Spotter is my OG comp role and first lvl X role

[past vortex]

but arty obs can have a supporter

[vale garnet]

Bro I have so much fun backline spotting

[past veldt]

Idk if we allow arty squads in comp yet

[vale garnet]

You can just do whatever you want and mark stuff

[past veldt]

Too many flares with it involved

[vale garnet]

Nope

[past vortex]

yea double flares happen quite often now :D

[past veldt]

It's fun marking tanks and whatever. It's just the map edge grind that's unfun

Playing some cringe 1v1 to get behind when the outcome is you both get behind eventually

[vale garnet]

Hippie last Sunday just ran through the middle

[past veldt]

Is that how he did it?

I meant to ask him for a vod

Actually hilarious that's worked against 116 again

[vale garnet]

Magwa got the red zone up running through middle

Hippie got like 90% of the way there but got given away by an inf guy

[past veldt]

Boooo

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179085355681595474/1458122424863428881/attachment.gif

[vale garnet]

The red zone was crazy

I think a few SLs made it just running though

I satchelled siege off KCs OP which he got right outside 4th just running up the middle

[past veldt]

Yeah, I was watching the stream, walked away for a bit and came back to see the frontline decimated

[vale garnet]

Cooking

[grizzled meadow]

I'm gonna screenshot this message and send it to someone who has no idea how HLL works

just watch their brain melt

[novel geyser]

ideal squad

[heady hornet]

it's just players name.

[keen glen]

they should increase the squad size its just not enough

[past veldt]

49 players per squad

[novel geyser]

this perhaps but also split some roles into their own specialist squads

[past vortex]

how would a sl handle that

[novel geyser]

certain available squad types could be faction dependant too
US infantry squads get BARs instead of a machine gunner but the team can have a few MG squads that get proper MGs

6 person squads are fine there is just too many different roles per squad imo

[keen flume]

okay i have tried to play HLL twice on xbox for 2 days now and both times im disconnected after grinding support so i can get the flame thrower and I loose all the xp i gained and their is nothing I can do about it the games servers are such a buggy mess and I bought it on pc becouse I thought it would be better but no still a buggy mess

[slate canopy]

XP is still gained... You just miss out on bonus XP at the end of the match where you purposely or not purposely DC

[slate canopy]

I'd keep drama out of here but I have never had an issue there.

[mild gulch]

Its not drama, was just asking. no need to delete my message

[keen flume]

not purposely

[novel geyser]

horses am i right

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-gold-ship-gold-ship-golshi-gold-ship-uma-musume-goku-prowler-gif-877742140786639460

You will not be found

[tranquil fulcrum]

Has anyone else noticed a difference for the sherman ranging on the gun lately? It seems the velocity has decreased

[brittle fog]

drew drew huh? more like bad drew lmao

[quick sparrow]

why time limit for warfare mode in some server is 30min per match?

[hazy shadow]

When we getting new map?

[crude mountain]

Wsg chat

[past vortex]

hey kedo

[analog apex]

because the admins can choose between 30m, 1h, 1h30, 2h, 2h30 and 3h I believe

[real parrot]

Yeah, most of the tank guns had an interval of 500m in ranging, now they are 250m, making it a bit slower

The most noticeable difference is in the 800m marking (now 750m)

[wintry ingot]

So. I'm level 80, I can see all my unlocks. But when I join any server I'm dropped to level 1. I can still see and pick my unlocks, however when I spawn it changes my loadout to a base loadout... confused cause wtf

[real parrot]

This is usually due to Steam maintenance problems and fitxes itself a day or two after happening

[wintry ingot]

ah okay, thanks!

[mild gulch]

is this a good game to play if you are afraid of fireworks and triggered by war

[covert elbow]

Didn’t you say you already play the game

[mild gulch]

yeah wasnt talking about myself

[echo karma]

Ben where art thou? I summon @lost pulsar

[chrome tusk]

Pinging people

[echo karma]

Greg has to respond no?

[analog apex]

he's not a CM so... no he doesn't have to 😄

[limpid marten]

I think the wisest thing here is to keep pinging him until he responds, they usually respect determined people.

[analog apex]

respect != discord server ban

[novel geyser]

Ben online

When next beef

[cosmic pilot]

Sounds like the title of a gotcha game

[novel geyser]

Gotcha

[cosmic pilot]

Gotcha looking at rhymes with forlorn

[echo karma]

Isint he t17 CM?

[novel geyser]

Greg isnt

Benis

[past veldt]

Hopefully he doesn't show his Benis

[pine ember]

When news on Juno?

[echo karma]

No Ben is hll. Greg is t17 CM

Ben employee, Greg manager

[lucid gazelle]

mod tools?

[gentle lintel]

employee ❌ manager ❌ #mess-hall message ✅

[novel geyser]

unfortunately never gonna happen
unless T17 decide to be extremely based

[lucid gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[echo karma]

Mod spegehti into lasagna?

[lucid gazelle]

I mean I know nothing of how they have set it up, but with their cosmetic system functions and weapon options you could build a pretty good realism mod for it.

[covert elbow]

Maybe

It’d be nice if a modder came in and fixed a bunch of the map issues as well

Would be funny to see someone fix the hitboxes in the game with their free time

[finite berry]

Then watch no one playing on modded servers due to seeding wars

Well, admittedly, it could work with HLL because of the higher playercount

[covert elbow]

Could work for a lot of events as well

I’d just want client side modes to fix weapon, uniform, and vehicle errors tbh

[finite berry]

Does that even work?

[covert elbow]

I mean that’s how modding works

Client side means it’s a mod that only effects the client while a server side mode effects the entire server

Best example is for a client side mod you can get a weapon skin for an existing weapon, while a server side mod will give you an entirely new weapon

[finite berry]

No, I mean would client-side mods work in this game?

[finite berry]

Yes, I know

[covert elbow]

I mean mods don’t exist so idk man

[lunar rapids]

Came on here to say i appreciate how the game feels infinitely more optimized every time I reinstall keep up the good work

[halcyon steppe]

why does everyone game look so clear and shiny

and mine looks so dark and old

[past veldt]

Sounds like your monitor settings need fixing

[cosmic pilot]

Ehhhhhh, unknown

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-of-course-ohhhh-oh-that-makes-sense-gif-11896286840118452668

[slate canopy]

Nah. New eye settings.

[mild gulch]

Who here has ties to tea and country server?

[halcyon steppe]

must be ah

[novel geyser]

@fluid pawn Juno beach dev brief soon? 👀

[steady vessel]

Did you get banned from there?

[stark tree]

Is anyone else’s game just not loading and saying network error?

[mild gulch]

maybe

[tepid basin]

Yup

[novel geyser]

what did you do to get banned

[mild gulch]

got into an argument on their discord server with the weird guy with long hair and sad eyes

he permabanned me for that

[novel geyser]

Im not in the server so idk who ur talking about

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[novel geyser]

😭

I just wanna know when soon could be like next week

[covert elbow]

It’ll probably come out in June

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/getout-gif-16327023334064302194

[novel geyser]

if its really gonna be june it bet have a lotta good content and fixes

[thin lotus]

2 maps a year lmao

Extremely slow

[past veldt]

That sounds like Jorviktus

[mild gulch]

yeah, whats that guys deal

weird af

[past vortex]

dude just drop it

[cedar ore]

Id rather quality over quantity

[analog apex]

well despite the slower pace, we haven't had that either

[past vortex]

id rather have them not break anything else :}

[cedar ore]

Me when I lie

[fallen ravine]

Smolensk has 💩 performance what are you saying

[cedar ore]

As someone who doesn’t have bad performance in Smolensk I will ignore this claim and pretend everything is fine

[past vortex]

lying again, huh?

[cedar ore]

I would NEVER lie about being painfully ignorant, how DARE you assume that!!!

[lunar rapids]

I seen u before

[keen glen]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/835896426470440970/1474021313818660916/20260219_153344.jpg?ex=699854d3&is=69970353&hm=5019190fcda40faa8aa35e4679c29abb61ede315a7fe4a31ec5d937c7005676c&

[smoky urchin]

https://tenor.com/fTjC3eyaeQJ.gif

[abstract lichen]

whats up with the sights on the M1A1 Thompson?

why are they just, wrong?

[past vortex]

normally youd use the peep for close and the notch for farther
we dont have a mechanic to switch sights tho (and no one really wants one)
peep holes also dont work well in 2.5D

[abstract lichen]

2.5D?

[past vortex]

well what you look at on your display

that isnt really 3d yk :}

[abstract lichen]

so how come enlisted is able to have the right sights but HLL doesnt?

[past vortex]

they made the hole much bigger than real and dont use the notch
thats also not realistic

[abstract lichen]

tru

but it is better than HLL

[past vortex]

argueable yes

[abstract lichen]

lowk, games should make the guns transluscent like irl when you have both eyes open

[past vortex]

idk, that would also be uncomfortable

[abstract lichen]

maybe ye. could be a cool concept tho

[mild gulch]

Let it go huk

[novel geyser]

old devs took a strange approach to making the peep sight not awful

[real parrot]

Wait till you see that the tank shights are all wrong because the devs decided that all tanks of the same category should have the same bullet drop and then decided not to with the new tanks but didn't changed anything old

[spring tulip]

Do we know of/have any news on when seelow heights and the new update are coming?

[slate canopy]

All news would be posted in #telegrams so if nothing new... we don't know yet.

[unborn crane]

Do you know if the next hell let loose vietnam will be officially crossplay between pc/ps5/xbox?

[slate canopy]

I don't think they currently plan for that.

[unborn crane]

💀

[past vortex]

did they say anything about that?

[novel geyser]

I think its safe to assume they wont do console to PC crossplay

[slate canopy]

https://youtu.be/e6Eka4i7Vlw?t=1913 At time 🙂

"All PC platforms can play with PC platforms, all console platforms can play with console platforms"

[echo karma]

So 2026 no crossplay. Rip

Many other games offer full crossplay with consoles and pc having the option to opt out

[slate canopy]

I wanted to verify my information because the FAQ on the website was a bit vague - Cross-play like currently, or full cross platform crossplay?
` Will Hell Let Loose: Vietnam have cross-play?

Hell Let Loose: Vietnam offers full cross-play support across PC and console including across storefronts.`

[echo karma]

Crossplay just simplify everything but can be longer patch cycle cuz cert with smaller studios

Highgaurd is full crossplay FYI

[slate canopy]

Good for them 🤷‍♀️

[echo karma]

We all know pc would be crying so hard about aa so win win ig

[slate canopy]

about aa?

[echo karma]

Yes

While having fps advantage, monitor advantage etc

[slate canopy]

I mean, when I played Apex and Siege vs other console... I didn't see autoaim as a major advantage.

[echo karma]

It is though. It was dominate in apex

To the point that most apex pc players used controller