mess-hall

[past vortex]

i dont have white spaces

[honest pecan]

you have you prolly just dont know what im talking about

because im not savvy enough to describe it properly

ehhh i just mean that objects that are (not even that) far away get giga pixelated

[delicate mortar]

https://youtu.be/00SyrXokCAo
https://youtu.be/ZSGDtWubYKY
https://youtu.be/nFhUU3F5JJY

You are literally coping my dude.

Stop spreading misinformation, and own that you are wrong

[past vortex]

wtf
those all use dynamic resolution

and it looks really bad

if you are saying that upscaling is ok then ok bro, i have never talked about upscaled gameplay

[past vortex]

dynamic upscaling is a literal cope :D

whats next? framegen or something :D

[delicate mortar]

https://youtu.be/ZSGDtWubYKY?t=12

Look at the timestamp

The scaling is literally at 100%

[delicate mortar]

Framegen and DLSS isn't a thing in HLL

[past vortex]

idk about that vid because its too dark to see anything :D

[past vortex]

so you didnt get the message about the driver level stuff yet

[delicate mortar]

I'm wasting my time with you. Keep trying to cope your way out of the situation, this won't buy you braincells

[past vortex]

you have no idea what you are talking about :}

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/dahliabunni-popcorn-gif-22679950

[grizzled kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/woah-saturday-night-live-ooh-wide-eyes-open-oh-wow-gif-907304756707127417

[brave flower]

https://tenor.com/view/mochi-mochi-mochi-peach-cat-gif-cat-mochi-mochi-peach-cat-its-gif-2251612597025469927

[dusk haven]

God why did everyone vote for another Russian map that’s nothing but rolling plains. Snipers and tanks dream

We had an option for literal castles but noooooo. We need more open fields

[worthy charm]

That nr. 2

[ocean sage]

Most servers just stick americans vs germans. More russian maps will give greater variety

[dusk haven]

Is it really variety tho when it’s another open field? What’s unique about this one? Slightly more trenches than usual?

[finite berry]

Would've Metz been variety when it's another city map?

Who knows, perhaps Seelow will have some nice spots to fight in

[ocean sage]

I'm thinking faction wise, I haven't considered the map itself

[dusk haven]

I’m not complaining we got another Russian map it’s just the field maps already suck. There’s a reason no one plays them

[ocean sage]

I love kursk offensive

my favourite map by far

The trench warfare is so good

easy 50 kills or smth

I think flat maps give more of an excuse to play tanks as well. purple heart lane works really well in that sense

[dusk haven]

It’s definitely fun at points and I know I don’t speak for everyone but it feels like hell trying to get anywhere as infantry. At least on Purple Heart Lane you got creeks and hedges from point to point. Kursk you got trenches that lead nowhere and some bushes that you can hide in

Granted there’s not many Russian battles that have a change of scenery. It’s all cities or fields

[ocean sage]

hm

[dusk haven]

Battle of Kiev would be cool

[silk igloo]

people dont play field maps because they filter all the ungabunga swarms

[pine ember]

Totally, but if that ever comes we get the 1943 Battle Most likely

[molten sail]

Open field maps aren't that bad you are just kind of forced to play MG on them

[pine ember]

They aren’t Bad at all, they just require a different approach than city maps

Move slower, more thoughtful, use cover and maybe keep your MP40 in the barracks

[willow wadi]

Anyone have any tips playing on XBox one S, every single game I play I freeze and have to restart, and or it just instantly boots me out and closes down the app any tips

[nova pivot]

MP40 is awful anyway

[silent lotus]

For hell let loose? Check your Xbox storage maybe delete a couple of games if you have your resolution on high that could be the problem too:)

[brisk cobalt]

@willow wadi get a new gen this game wasn’t made for ancient consoles

[harsh egret]

There's no fix. This game just crashes all the time and they will never fix it. Get used to it.

And don't worry about the gaslighters.

[pastel ermine]

anyone want to join a tank crew on na?

[errant vapor]

This may be just my take but I hate the ppsh

Useless past 2 yards

I shoot at a German, first shot hits him, second shot hits the tree above his head, third shot hits the cloud, 4th hits the moon

[cyan saddle]

Based

[empty steppe]

https://tenor.com/c4h8IW1uaFC.gif

The amount of 50 kills games I’ve got with that thing is ridiculous, the “tink tink tink tink” 👌

[errant vapor]

MP40 is goated

Fire rate low enough to use long distance

Still shreds close

[novel geyser]

u need that recoil control my brotha

then the ppsh is a laser beam

[errant vapor]

Oh yeah lemme just jerk down wildly

I set my sens lower with ADS for precise aiming

[novel geyser]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[empty steppe]

Cooks 🔥

You can shred with it

[past vortex]

you need to buy that desk extension

[warm lintel]

Hi im very new to the game and im a bit lost 😂 im in oceania servers does someone mind playing a few with me to guide and help

[slate canopy]

Take a look in #1343090646168240199 to find some oce/aus communities and hop on those servers to learn if no one gets to you.

[compact crescent]

Hello everyone,for anyone who is new to the game and needs help feel free to DM me

[finite berry]

Every considered releasing the trigger to fire bursts only?

[pine ember]

Many people love it (I dont get why). But the StG is better, Even the G43 can deal more damage in close Range

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-even-know-who-you-are-anymore-cole-ellis-wild-cards-i'm-not-even-sure-who-you-are-anymore-giacomo-gianniotti-gif-11506557484077574406

MP40 my beloved shall not be talked down.

[real parrot]

counterargument, 8.8cm KwK 36 L56

[pine ember]

Its ok for close range, but I wouldnt pick it unless I had to

The StG is so much better

[worthy charm]

Only got 2 STG loadouts tho

And one is one lvl 9

[pine ember]

Yea, but if you get that its overkill

Officer should get one too

FG42 is more fun for the automatic rifleman though

[worthy charm]

Not sure if that would be to strong, not like i care either...

Get that assault satchel out of here

[pine ember]

I dont think so, imo there needs to be a redistribution of weapons

An officer would get that thing more easily than a regular soldier

[worthy charm]

Probably

[pine ember]

Keep the satchel but nerf the loadout by adding the MP40 to it

[worthy charm]

Hell nah

Only engineer should have a satchel

[pine ember]

That would be an option too

[worthy charm]

AT has 3 rockets with medium pen which are better anyway and assault could get AT nades/panzerfaust

[pine ember]

I really like the German lvl9 assault but it is too strong especially in the hands of an experienced player

[pine ember]

I prefer satchels, AT grenades are a good idea

[pine ember]

I once used the loadout on Kursk and got like 50 kills and destroyed 5 tanks

[worthy charm]

Lvl 9 assault is way to strong, but I dont see them redoing the loadouts soon.

[pine ember]

Sadly not

Would prefer a proper class rework over a new map

[worthy charm]

Oppinions on that are very different, one one hand between PC players but also for PC/Consoles

[molten sail]

Not really, it's good in certain situations and maps

[pine ember]

Which is totally fair

[worthy charm]

Its strong in more situations than the average loadout

To say it differently

[pine ember]

Yea if you are in a completely open area the StG doesnt help you that much, but in most situations it completely slaps

[past veldt]

It just needs the satchel to be removed. We shouldn't have three satchel classes per squad. Engineer and AT is more than enough

[keen glen]

@worthy charm pls tell dev team to fix video settings

thank you

[worthy charm]

I dont have a direct line to the devs

Tanks would be very different otherwise :}

I believe Ben does most of the videos, but not sure

[keen glen]

if they hire me i can fix it for them it seems they cant

[harsh egret]

People are still talking about reworks and overhauls when the game literally doesn't work and crashes 50% of matches you play. Amazing.

[worthy charm]

Sir this isnt the console chat

My game literally never crashes

[pine ember]

I can count on one hand how many times the game crashed in the last three years for me

[harsh egret]

Proud of you. Your individual experience doesn't negate the overwhelming majority who crash all the time while being ignored for years, especially on consoles. They are here speaking it almost daily for years now. No sale.

[worthy charm]

Brother says no sale as if he didnt buy the game.

[chilly estuary]

Seelow heights huh?

https://tenor.com/view/trash-garbage-bubbadub-bubbadubcomedy-gif-27016323

[worthy charm]

Thats Nr.3

[glossy echo]

what happend with the 2 other menu songs

us field artillery and on the square

did they get removed

[scarlet mural]

https://klipy.com/gifs/king-von-stare

how I fell when I arrive at Omaha beach

[errant vapor]

You people are evil

I am willing to give up level 9 assault satchel

However

Don’t lay a finger on sturmgewehr

[errant vapor]

This man is going to be slimed out by 5 MGs

[errant vapor]

I started playing engineer for the node EXP trick but i’m stating to enjoy the gameplay

[harsh egret]

It means I'm not buying what the gaslighters are selling. The ones who act like this is a functional game in which the focus and priority should be on maps or reworking more things that aren't broken, and breaking the game more like the last two trainwrecks masquerading as updates. No way we are just going to play pretend anymore after the U18 and U19 fiascos.

Also, definitely no sale on Vietnam. Not interested.

[worthy charm]

Do you know what gaslighting means?

[harsh egret]

Very well. A common tactic of it is to act like someone is making stuff up or that their grievances either don't exist or are a figment of their imagination. This community is great at it. Like they don't know the game is rife with all kinds of issues and crashing and performance problems for literally years, but they insist on telling you how they have never crashed once before copy/pasting some useless stuff about clearing your cache.

[worthy charm]

That a very very nice way of putting what it mean.

And I dont know what part of the community youre talking about

[harsh egret]

Cool. Don't care.

[worthy charm]

maybe the console community is different from what I know

[harsh egret]

I'll give up satchel assault or accept conversations regarding class balance reworks when they make a game that stops crashing in 50% of matches and stuttering below 5 fps constantly. Not before. Without those issues acknowledged, addressed, prioritized, and fully resolved, there is no functioning game to worry about balancing.

And I'm aware that some of you on your multi-thousand dollar PCs probably cannot relate. For the rest of us, this game is unplayable.

They sold a product to a vast market of folks, including console gamers, and they need to deliver.

[past veldt]

Wait, we can't yap about balance on a game that works for us because it doesn't work for you?

Willes, put me in jail

[harsh egret]

Great idea. The tank rework update went so well, the arty rework update went so well let's see what else we can destroy. Time for infantry.

Never fix the core issues though. Never that.

[past veldt]

I for one enjoy the tank and arty rework

[rocky bison]

nah dont remove satchel from assault

ive just began to grind for it

[finite berry]

Remove the satchel from assault

[harsh egret]

Did you enjoy when nobody could drive Panthers for 2 weeks or when everything was broken and half the tankers I know uninstalled the game?

[past veldt]

Not really, but it's fixed now innit

The devs suck and are mostly clueless, but the core aspects of those reworks are legitimately good

They just have a tendency to break the spaghetti code with their changes

[harsh egret]

I also really enjoyed how arty rework and new map that nobody plays also busted PS5 graphics and made the game look like ps2 for like 3 weeks. That was a fire update too. At least they fixed that too, though. No problem. All for a map no server owners keep on rotation because it chops more than a karate instructor and crashes half the server.

We are doing so great with all these changes. Keep on keeping on.

Or we could, imagine this, JUST FIX THE GAME SO IT WORKS

And then worry about whatever dumb stuff you worry about in a healthy game

[rocky bison]

hey smolensk is a good map tbh

its just not getting the attention though, yeah

[harsh egret]

No servers are running it on console. It's dogpoop.

The map itself is cool. It literally performs like you're playing on a Windows 1995 PC

[rocky bison]

on PC its hella stutters, lol

[harsh egret]

Bingo

So what good is a new map or updates that are unplayable

Sort it out

[grizzled kiln]

Still borked. Tanks drive like sh*t. I know the devs say some of then are tankers, no way that's the case lol

[silk igloo]

i wonder if they could increase the vehicle speeds in HLL because they're using the same code in HLLV for choppers and they really need them to go faster

that is, the improvements got carried to HLL

[grizzled kiln]

Vehicles in s44 can go much faster without anywhere near as many issues as HLL

Same game engine..

[rocky bison]

s44 is alive though? how many players per day?

[grizzled kiln]

No idea haven't played it in a while

[rocky bison]

thinking to give squad a go, hll is my first “realistic game”

[silk igloo]

squad also has mods, like star wars, so you get a lot more bang for your buck. although that mod is down now... modding for HLL pls

[finite berry]

200 to 400 in total numbers, dunno the average count

It's alive tho, yes

[finite berry]

We have other problems (like halftracks being a pain in the as s to steer and often being painfully slow when going up even just a slight incline)

Grass is always greener on the other side

[finite berry]

Depends on what you want. Squad is modern warfare.

[honest pecan]

@worthy charm

[cosmic pilot]

Unlikely.
BM used a custom physics implementation.
I suspect the reason they chose to do that was because of perceived networking constraints.

For physics the lower the tick rate the worse the accuracy of the simulation

Physics typically needs a short time step to give you good results

If the time step is too large you get unpredictable results

[silk igloo]

Couldn't they use it for helis and custom it further? The helis looked way slow in the trailer and seemed to behave just like tanks when hit with an RPG. So I thought, if they needed them to go faster in HLLV and found a way to do it without issues, it let them make the tanks go faster in HLL too.

[past vortex]

those things were actually that underpowered tho

at least the german ones

[cosmic pilot]

inb4 500 GB sdk 😭

[finite berry]

Only if you want to make the mods, tho 😄

[obtuse dragon]

so, it's been... more than a month

Where is the winter warfare DLC 🥺

[river rover]

ℹ️ NVIDIA GameReady GPU Driver 591.86 WHQLℹ️
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/details/263199/

[stray quarry]

hi guys im new here is it possible to play solo or is it necessary to have a mic and a team to play?

[obtuse dragon]

Solo squad? fuh nah you'll get kicked from the match

[finite berry]

The latter

Allow me to put it like this, if you want to play solo, this is not the right game for you

[worthy charm]

It kinda depends, I dont think its an issue to solo lock a recon squad... people will be mad tho because they cant play sniper

[obtuse dragon]

You need a squad because most servers kick solo squads, But while Mic isn't necessary it's better to have one

[obtuse dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[worthy charm]

The server also matter, some server will smite you

[worthy charm]

I know I will be mad

:}

[obtuse dragon]

literally 75% of the servers

[stray quarry]

got it guys thx

[obtuse dragon]

I think that the only ones that don't have that

[worthy charm]

official server 😬

[obtuse dragon]

Are the generic ones

[obtuse dragon]

Yeah those

But they're usually full, empty or on the other side of the world

[past vortex]

a recon spotter is about the worst class to play without mic
i call admins if i see one

2nd only to commander

[worthy charm]

Oh wait

[obtuse dragon]

The best class to play without mic is rifleman or medic

[worthy charm]

I read the question wrong

ANYWAY

https://klipy.com/gifs/well-then-homer

[obtuse dragon]

Also if you're a new player try to find those "beginner friendly" servers, people there are usually chill and won't be mean if you mess up something

[past vortex]

most people wont get mad as long as you talk and listen

even on high level servers

[tall kettle]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE** ❕
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Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Some players may experience the following issues during Steam's routine maintenance:

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[steel ginkgo]

Brah

[livid saffron]

on PC

i have it screen shot

Hos is he able to talk to us in teacm chat

team*

[past vortex]

a ss where we can hear him talk

[livid saffron]

i just died without getting shot in the game

[slate canopy]

Please don't start witch hunts.

Also don't play on official servers.

[livid saffron]

we got a hacker in the game and the devs are doint nothing about it

[slate canopy]

You can report them on their platform: https://support.team17.com/hell-let-loose/en/articles/316972-reporting-a-player-on-hell-let-loose

[fringe hollow]

Official servers should have labels saying they aren't moderated

[livid saffron]

why do they exist then

[slate canopy]

So there are always servers available to play on

[fringe hollow]

legally, the game devs need to let people play the game.

[slate canopy]

It's the same thing with Team Fortress 2.

Basically no one plays on TF2 official

[livid saffron]

yeah could of at least moderated better through other means

[fringe hollow]

community servers are paid for by the owners and ran through third party systems like a minecraft server

yes, community servers. They are moderated almost always and an admin is a ping or "!admin" away

[worthy charm]

Thats a law somewhere?

[fringe hollow]

thought it was

probably not tho

[worthy charm]

I couldnt imagine it is...

[fringe hollow]

legally according to me. I AM THE LAW

[worthy charm]

The regime is always right ✊

[fringe hollow]

Can't be wrong if everyone who says you're wrong disappears

[worthy charm]

He found out my plan

https://klipy.com/gifs/gut-him-bobby-axelrod-1

[fringe hollow]

I would never say your wrong. Top supporter right here

I can't use the right "you're" for the life of me

[worthy charm]

Noted for the next purge

[worthy charm]

Make it you r and it makes sense

[fringe hollow]

u r short

better?

[worthy charm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179085355681595474/1406844456912556052/attachment.gif

[fringe hollow]

im short too. 5'4 forever

now to shovel ice at night and hope I don't bottom out again

[slate canopy]

Short king 👑 (still taller than me lol)

[worthy charm]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kitten-fighting-1

Angry polar bear above

Small people here xD

[slate canopy]

Why you show thisssss (◡‿◡✿)\

[livid saffron]

its not showing his name in the scoreboard

or the the roster and im getting killed and it saying the username of the player and still abe to talk to us in team chat being on enemy team

[slate canopy]

I understand.

AGain, just go play community servers.

[verbal moss]

was just flying around in the map aimbotting when we got him kicked everyone just started laggin

[slate canopy]

Please don't start witch hunts.
Also don't play on official servers.

[verbal moss]

nah he long gone and the doxxing stopped but anything EU is rly empty atm so its chill

nothing else rly to play on than official servers tho

[slate canopy]

Except ther are lots of community servers ????

you PC or Console?

and do you have crossplay on?

[verbal moss]

pc but idk i tried to find community servers a while back but it kept like kicking me out instantly from there idk what was up for it

i even asked abt it in their server and they didnt know what to do abt it

and i do have crossplay on

[slate canopy]

Were you underleveled?

Some require account level of a certain amount, so it could kick you instantly due to that.

[verbal moss]

nope im like lvl 90 almost

[slate canopy]

well "A while back" were you? lol

[verbal moss]

nope when i was searching for em i was like lvl 70

and ive been on the official server grind for like couple weeks now lol so not so long ago

[slate canopy]

Well then you're gonna deal with hackers/ cheaters/ tkers on the official 😅 They don't have any moderation.

Possiblity you were barricade banned from community servers?

[verbal moss]

how can i be banned from em if ive never played on em

ive never got into a community server basically

[slate canopy]

You've never EVER played on community?

[verbal moss]

nope

my friends got into the servers but i didnt

so official servers have been the only options

[slate canopy]

That's very odd.

I'd say try again on community, see if you're able to.

[verbal moss]

yeah i gotta get into em xD

thankfully the hackers are semi uncommon last time i had one was like over couple months ago

atleast for me

ill keep trying if it doesnt start to work well i gotta do some research again

if theres some corrupted file or smthin?!? maybe

[tall kettle]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE NOW ENDING** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Steam maintenance has now ended but some issues may still remain until a game restart

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[slate canopy]

Not sure 🤷‍♀️

You could always post in #1271718922734796865 and see if anyone would be down to help

[verbal moss]

yeah ill do that if it doesnt start to work just hopped off for today 3am here so

[slate canopy]

Rest up 😴

[covert elbow]

@fluid pawn Are there any plans or ideas to redo the existing uniform system or touch up existing cosmetics to allow for more player expression and fix inaccuracies?

[empty steppe]

Ooooh oooh lemme roleplay Ben

No

[grand wyvern]

is it possible to get a kill with the Soviet AT gun

[grand wyvern]

Like infantry kill, not tank

[obtuse dragon]

yeah

but the bullet speed is a little bit... odd

[grand wyvern]

kk

[small hollow]

anyone else having a problem with the game seeming to not detect your keyboard when you first launch so you cant get past the press any button screen

[uncut surge]

Could you tell me how to contact technical support crcon.cc ?

[pearl phoenix]

Yo

[gentle lintel]

@cyan saddle 😉

[cyan saddle]

https://crcon.cc/contact-us/

[solemn junco]

Played my first game of Smolensk last night. Map looks alright, but performance is horrible. It seems they already started working on the new map. I get that different people work on different parts of the game, but maybe you should fix what you have before moving on to the next thing?

@fluid pawn , when are we going to finally get some much needed polish on the performance of this game? These new features don't mean anything if you game runs like trash.

[vestal nimbus]

only remagen is worthy of polish apparently

[solemn junco]

They can polish that one into oblivion for all I care, what a horrible idea for a map. It's not like people didn't tell them it would work out the way I did. They clearly don't eat their own dogfood.

[worthy charm]

Also BM did Remagen, T17 didnt have the IP back then.

[fluid pawn]

Good roleplpaying Cheesecake

[fluid pawn]

To my knowledge, I don't believe there are plans to do this. That said, if there are major issues then the team may be able to resolve, however I don't image a new uniform system happening

[pine ember]

Will we ever get an eastern front subfaction for the Germans (a lot they have rn is inaccurate for 1942) and more maps for earlier years of the war?

[fluid pawn]

Just because we're working on new maps, doesn't mean we aren't working on performance. We have level designers for instance doing map stuff, and then technical people working on performance. I know that improving performance and QOL/bug fixes are key this year

[solemn junco]

The point is that we keep on adding things instead of fixing the core game. New maps are useless if it runs like trash and old problems are never addressed. I don't care about new content, I want the game to not be a stutter fest.

[nova pivot]

Ben news today or nah?

[fluid pawn]

Nothing today sorry Flop

[solemn junco]

That's what I already mentioned, I understand that different people will work on different parts, but we've been hearing this forever and nothing ever changes.

[worthy charm]

https://klipy.com/gifs/haha-gumichan

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/big-floppa-floppa-sad-it's-over-rain-gif-2614335113295818251

[fluid pawn]

Completely understand that mate. Hopefully we can change that narrative this year 🙏

[broken shoal]

Hello. Where is the date for Vietnam release. Didnt they say first trimester of 2026?

[fluid pawn]

We've only said 2026 so far

[novel geyser]

Can you give us any teasers
Like for horses

[fluid pawn]

Horse are ||cool||

[worthy charm]

Horses are ||never|| coming

[pine ember]

I hope more subfactions are though

[wild rampart]

My game keeps crashing due to an error "epicaccount" something (that I don't even have, I'm on Steam), and when that happens, the game will be crashing with error pak chunk line 26 which I'm very much used to. I literally have to re-download the pak files almost every day. It's very annoying. I did system scans, reinstalls, etc, no other game, no other program has any issues, only HLL, so I concluded that the game need patching. Badly.
I've tried every single method that I could find here on Discord, Reddit, wherever, it gets fixed for a day or two, and then again. Sometimes the pak file gets corrupt twice a day. Like, seriously. The SSD is like 3 months old.
Suggestions?

[pine ember]

Tiger II with Balaton?

[blissful mango]

Sup

[heady hornet]

T17 acquired HLL January 2022. Remagen was first announced March 2022 (DevBrief 169).

[worthy charm]

But they took over development in 2023

[heady hornet]

true but you said T17 didnt own the IP.

[pine ember]

T17 took over development in 2023, the Brits were still made by BM

[worthy charm]

https://klipy.com/gifs/information-that-i-believe-is-unnecessary-ahmed-aldoori

:}

[heady hornet]

[heady hornet]

I'm fully aware just stating that T17 already owned the IP.

[pine ember]

Yea right

[lime umbra]

That will become a nice meme soon XD

AI Ben never dissapoints ❤️

[drifting surge]

When will some men wanna jion and play ???

[fluid pawn]

Please no

[fluid pawn]

I'm just a wee AI, take it easy on me 🤖

[blissful mango]

Men sus

[drifting surge]

Hey men

U wanna playyyy

Some men battle game

[gentle lintel]

If people are mean to AI, I think it can block them 😈

Code of conduct or something smh

[blissful mango]

Dm

[nova pivot]

I love that it stuck, I was the first to say it

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/award-award-meme-award-myself-awarded-awarding-gif-11797220084361538090

[wintry comet]

anyone know why i cant post in divisions

[worthy charm]

👀

Me trying to not answer the question after polarbearr

[worthy charm]

Read #division-rules

bottom point explains how to make your own post

[wintry comet]

got it

[slate canopy]

Just make sure there isn't already a post for it

[silk igloo]

i just had the best idea in a while. get a tank crew in a luchs, find an enemy (preferably someone that looks very new) far away from the action, and just follow him menacingly, popping a few rounds and wounding him once or twice

[grizzled kiln]

Good luck surviving more than a couple of minutes before you have rockets flying around you

[silk igloo]

well, you can always skedaddle and menace them again later

I suppose it would work better if you menaced a lighter tank with a heavier, but just as fast, instead

[static granite]

They just continually ruin this game

What’s next turn this into battlefield?

[finite berry]

That has already happened

[worthy charm]

Lets not

[static granite]

I have zero faith that they can handle Vietnam

[worthy charm]

It happend in 2019

Game always was like battlefield

[analog apex]

I think the same... but at the same time they don't need to work with spaghetti code in it as Vietnam is being rebuilt from ground up (unless they will make spaghetti code themselves 😄 ).

just shame there won't be any good WWII any time soon after HLL stopps being supported

(1st person shooter MP WWII)

[worthy charm]

They didnt even said that yes, so we still get at least 2 years of stuff

[analog apex]

we need something of WWII, but made in modern engines

[worthy charm]

I dont think they would just say "nah we are out" at the end of the year.

[analog apex]

I wouldn't expect that either ofc.

but the fact remains, there is nothing of the mentioned WWII even on the horizon

[thin lotus]

2027 will be a huge year for hll.
Obese, even.

[silk igloo]

those men of war/gates of hell games in FPS mode looked pretty good. idk if it was modded, but a game like that with 100 players would be quite something

[novel geyser]

the first person in gates of hell is modded
its just third person or overhead for manual control in vanilla

[cosmic pilot]

My hot take for the day, GOH is not a serious competitive game

[novel geyser]

I would agree but thats because I suck at RTS games and couldnt imagine playing pvp

[lucid tusk]

A WW2 game with the gunplay and movement of Killzone 2 would be peak

[cosmic pilot]

RTS really should be enjoyed in equal parts co-op with friends against bots

[novel geyser]

yeah thats how I play

[cosmic pilot]

There's probably been too much emphasis on pvp in RTS as of the last 2 decades

[lucid tusk]

Thats what me and my buddy would do in CoH2 back in the day, just 2vs2 against bots

[novel geyser]

I'd say the same for tac shooters honestly

I do like a good pve tactical game

squads pve mode interestes me a lot, need to give it a go

[cosmic pilot]

Could you imagine hll with 50 players vs 50 bots

[lucid tusk]

True, shame RoN went to s**t cause it had so much potential

[novel geyser]

a real disappointment indeed
The radio silence from the devs is frustrating and they just refuse to fix the games issues

[lucid tusk]

Insurgency also dropped the ball esthetically IMO

[novel geyser]

big time

[lucid tusk]

And no Day of Infamy 2

[novel geyser]

insurgency gets an udate like once a year which adds weird weapons, usually ugly cosmetics and a ton of bugs they wont fix

[lucid tusk]

Forgotten Hope 2 is still getting updated thankfully, and my guilty pleasure Easy Red 2

[novel geyser]

no need for guilt with ER2 that game is a banger

[lucid tusk]

First game that tackled the Sino-Japanese war in a meaningful way

[mellow knoll]

I used to love that game till I got into CTA. Don't play it anymore because CTA's a much better experience.

[lucid tusk]

How is it accessibility wise? The reason I liked CoH so much was because if you wanted it to be piss simple you could (im bad at RTS)

[mellow knoll]

Oh well the main problem you'd probably have with CTA is that it's a lot more multi task based and when it comes to game mechanics it's a lot more realistic.

It takes some getting used to but it's hella worth it imo if you like realism

[past veldt]

I've played against PBS before, so yes

[empty steppe]

Thanks man I tried my best

[sage scarab]

Hey, i am looking for german mates, i am new to this game and try to find some peoples who want to play in like a squad or somehting

[finite berry]

#german

Might find someone there

[gray pollen]

I dove deep into reddit and apparianitely its fixed when you have tour advanced sound settings open on the tab of recording devices

[tropic kernel]

Anyone else high server ping?

[golden sparrow]

Guys what could be causing the server to take so long to load? How can I fix it? (My internet is good)

[worthy charm]

You got the game on an HDD? Its recommended to have it on an SSD for quicker loading times.

[thin lotus]

Gaming on an hdd is so 2011

Imagine also still being on 1080p 60hz monitor

🙈

[worthy charm]

1080p isnt that bad

60hz on the other hand is unplayable

[golden sparrow]

I have an SSD, and it often happens that I log into a server, and after about 10 minutes of loading, it says: "Connection to the server was lost."

[past vortex]

wut

[golden sparrow]

And a have 70hz😭

[worthy charm]

xD

Not sure then

[past vortex]

i mean if you look at the guy... who knows what else is amiss :D

[worthy charm]

Its good enough in my heart

[past vortex]

its workable, but going higher is the greatest gaming improvment there is

[lucid tusk]

Pipes and drums Maple Leaf Forever as Canada's victory theme

[honest pecan]

@worthy charm

Why do you keep ignoring me

[rocky bison]

so pacific update when

[tall kettle]

https://i.imgur.com/oqjthtn.png

[dawn summit]

what time uptade has come

[faint portal]

@worthy charm only likes me

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-psychicpebbles-pim-smiling-friends-pim-mr-boss-gif-1373626090718171797

[worthy charm]

Especially when you are patrolling the rivers of Vietnam

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/forrest-gump-rain-raining-shield-gif-23708211

[dense crystal]

Foaming at the mouth waiting for Nam

Platoon styled rp with my hbs is gonna be generational

[slate canopy]

Put in #off-topic-mess-hall 😛

[cosmic pilot]

Did you watch to the end?

[slate canopy]

I did.

[cosmic pilot]

It's literally hll

Undelete it

[slate canopy]

No. Because 90% of it was NOT HLL

[cosmic pilot]

The beginning was about hll
And the end was about hll

It's literally about hll

[cosmic pilot]

I will not have this glorious moment stolen from me

[cosmic pilot]

delete all of messhall, because 90% of it isn't about HLL

[covert elbow]

Shame. Also I sent you a DM regarding remagen but I can just post it here and tag you if you’d like

[rocky bison]

bro when are you guys actually gonna fix the lag on smolensk

it runs like dog sht

[slate canopy]

I'm not a developer.

[rocky bison]

my bad lad

[scarlet tusk]

alguno que hable español? tengo un problema con la licencia de steam pero al juego lo tengo epic, alguna ayuda? :c

[livid saffron]

I have an idea for a new game mode. When we get Battle for Berlin Map to attack Hitlers HQ, who ever eliminated Hitler in a time frame wins the game. It will be 50 vs 50. The axis commander will have the skin and be able to move around

[past vortex]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/413284897822867466

[verbal veldt]

@slate canopy fix the game

🤭

[slate canopy]

I am on it

[verbal veldt]

😸yay

[slate canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/heart-broken-break-gif-13375843

[verbal veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/so-good-wink-smile-oh-yeah-its-true-gif-24163876

[real parrot]

I think going from a GTX760 to a RX9060XT 16GB might be a bit of a larger lap

[drifting surge]

Guys anyone wanna play
???
For consolesssssssssss ????
Anyone

[gentle lintel]

Sir this is a Wendy’s

[dense crystal]

If yall give me HLLV early good fortune and luck will fall upon you TRUST me

[blissful mango]

No sh1t

I want it for free

[blissful mango]

Is that Hitler on ur profile picture?

[honest pecan]

south america

baseball huh?

[dawn summit]

uptade

[keen glen]

@slate canopy hi

[delicate mortar]

That's quite the jump indeed.
Hopefully your CPU is not as old as your 760.

[real parrot]

I also changed that, went from an Intel I310100F to a Ryzen 7 5700X3D

[keen glen]

what made you choose 5700 instead of 7800

[real parrot]

Time and price

I also had to change the Mobo

[delicate mortar]

You will be good for a long time with that config.

[real parrot]

Hopefully, for now the only thing I have left to upgrade is some more space

[delicate mortar]

SSD price are also terrible at the moment sadly

[real parrot]

YUP

I can wait tho

[delicate mortar]

I remember buying a bunch of 1tb nvme for 45€ just 3 years ago..

[keen glen]

30euros difference and big performance difference

[delicate mortar]

He already had DDR4 sticks

[real parrot]

7800X3D was 200 euros more tho

[delicate mortar]

Buying an AM5 CPU imply buying also new RAM... In this economy

[real parrot]

Also this

Mobo combo + CPU was 400, while 7800X3D was 600 just by itself

[delicate mortar]

The performance difference is real yes. But having to change ram is an other +300€ .

[delicate mortar]

The 7800x3d is around 390€ over here

[real parrot]

Good value there

[keen glen]

are you buying with box or without box

without box is cheaper

[delicate mortar]

Tray version are usually 10~20€ cheaper

[keen glen]

ye thats what im sayin

[real parrot]

I'm buying from official store new with 4 years of guarantee and those things

[delicate mortar]

Nice. But yes in this economy, choosing to stay on D4 is perfectly acceptable, especially with a 5700x3d. And with this GPU you are golden at 1080p and even 1440p.

You should be able to have around 180fps at 1080p and 100fps at 1440p in HLL.

[real parrot]

I have no FPS problems even in Star citizen with everything at max

Wich for me is enough

[dusty bolt]

Good morning chat

[worthy charm]

How are you darling? ❤️

[cosmic pilot]

I'm mad at you

[lucid tusk]

Hes mad at himself, he is a mod after all

[worthy charm]

Thats new to me

but I will take write it down for the future.

[grand jungle]

Do you think we'll get the tiger 2 when the Hungary map gets added?

[lucid tusk]

No lol

[grand jungle]

cause meny of them took part during operation Konrad I II II

[worthy charm]

I dont believe it until the devs show it themselves.

Honestly by their description it could be anything...

[grand jungle]

the most sendble type woule be tank destroyers

[finite berry]

What Hungary map lol

[grand jungle]

cause adding heavy heavy tanks sounds cool on paper but in reality wouldnt change much

[grand jungle]

lake balton

[finite berry]

?

[lucid tusk]

The best thing you can do is not speculate anything and always assume the bare minimum, that way you can be pleasantly surprised when something does happen

[worthy charm]

Super heavy tanks would be boring, just a heavy with more health

[finite berry]

I'm repeating myself, but as long the armour system doesn't improve in general, there is no point in adding new tanks at all

[grand jungle]

look at the road map

[worthy charm]

"New vehicles" could also just mean the new canadian tanks.

We dont really know.

[finite berry]

Yes, battle of Seelow Heights, that is in Germany, Brandenburg. Not in Hungary.

Ah, wait

[worthy charm]

-# He is talking about Lake Balaton

[finite berry]

Missed it

[lucid tusk]

If canada gets new tanks then something is very wrong, the only unique vehicles that would fit is the CMP transport truck, and maybe, MAYBE, the kangaroo APC if they wanna break history a wee bit

[finite berry]

Yep, saw it now. My bad.

[worthy charm]

Reskinned maybe, you know how it works, those would probably have different or at least very similar stats to what we already have for Britain.

[grand jungle]

idk i just want somethins intresting been playing this game for like 7 years, brits and russians are cool but they get lost in most map rotations

[worthy charm]

Brave to assume the canadians will be much different after like 2 weeks

[grand jungle]

damn just realised i played in like 6th grade in primary school and now im finishing high school

im old

and after all this years the hummel and priest artilery are yet to be added

[finite berry]

Should just add mortars instead; would have a bigger and better impact imo

[grand jungle]

also true

[finite berry]

And scrap arty

[lucid tusk]

The only thing that would make sense, in relation to the map being Juno +1, is a combination of sherman mediums + Fireflies, Stewart's, and i guess the tetrarch since the Canadian 2nd armored only had the dingo scout car as a designated recce vehicle

[grand jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-27277116

i remeber when even the mg 34 wasnt a thing

[errant vapor]

Just had literally the worst match i’ve ever played

As an engineer with a kar98 i was trying to build nodes at a really good, defensible point

And the point got locked down by two american riflemen

[covert elbow]

Praying we get a universal carrier for the Brit’s and Canadians

[finite berry]

(I know a game that has it :))

Even with different versions with a Vickers, a Bren, a .50 cal and a Boys ATR :)

[finite berry]

But for real now, I genuinely can't see them not adding the Universal Carrier with the Canadians

[lucid tusk]

True, Easy Red 2 does have all those variants. I know squad 44 does as well but seeing as a bren gun carrier could carry roughly 10 people including crew, that's 2/3 of the games current population right there

The fact halftracks are STILL stuck as being mobile garries and not the standard transports still pisses me off

[finite berry]

In fact, ER2 has even more, I think

They have the wasp, I think

[grizzled kiln]

Might as well make S44 a 5v5 like CS 😄

[covert elbow]

It’s bad

[finite berry]

Yup, they do

[covert elbow]

Trucks in general is sadly underused

[lucid tusk]

Squad 44 2: Highguard

[covert elbow]

They really need to go the battlefield route and have vehicles spawn on captured objectives

[finite berry]

What baffles me even more is that there still is no mechanic to unflip or unstuck a vehicle

[covert elbow]

I don’t even question the game anymore

I’ve just accepted things are going to be slow and unchanged

and if it does change it’s guaranteed to be an unfinished and rushed product

[lucid tusk]

I dont know if id go that route, imagine every map just choked up with jeeps and kubelwagons everywhere. I just want halftracks to be useful

[thin lotus]

Anything transport related is second to teleporting

[grizzled kiln]

if only we could have unchanged, instead of it being more broken after every update.

[covert elbow]

Not jeeps but trucks and the like

[lucid tusk]

MHGA
Make halftracks great again

[thin lotus]

Why do something that is slower, more cumbersome to initiate, and with a much higher failure rate than just simply waiting for a teleport to prop up and materializing there?

[covert elbow]

Naturally spawning jeeps and variants with MG’s would be nice as well

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blow-galaxy-explode-boom-fireworks-gif-5139389

[worthy charm]

Real HLL players are to good to get stuck 😎

[lucid tusk]

So I can larp. You dont understand Chum, I dont care about what makes sense in relation to the current game meta, all I care about is what I want

[thin lotus]

Metas in hll are cringe, I agree. There was one standout fun moment for me in hll and that was when me and a friend in a half track were driving around and gunning clueless enemies. It’s a shame it was literally only one time and very fleeting. Hll just doesn’t open itself to moments like this because everything is either so cumbersome and/or at odds with how ineffective you are in doing so

[harsh egret]

I mean the halftruck gun doesn't even slow down when you ADS like every other weapon in the game, so it is just super awkward to even shoot and use for that reason alone.

Halftrack would be cool if it was at least somewhat useful as a light armor combat vehicle when necessary but alas. It is just a sneaky mobile spawn point at best.

[covert elbow]

I’ve shot way to many people driving Halftracks cause they want to use them as assault vehicles rather than spawns

Sucks to because the thing has the armor of thin paper

[finite berry]

People mistaking spawn vehicles as their personal rambo car is so painful

[cosmic pilot]

They are merely following their instincts

Half-tracks should be used to precap locked territory

[thin lotus]

There’s a ‘stupid’ switch that turns on when players have access to a vehicle with a mounted gun. Every game that has it. Players lose all semblance of self preservation and throw themselves away

[vital jackal]

Hi, is anyone German? Could someone that speaks German DM me I need some small historical documents translated

To enhance the experience of my division in HLL

It's 2 pages with not a lot of text

[finite berry]

Send it

[vital jackal]

🙏

[pine ember]

Jawoll

[dire pollen]

i liked metz man

i went there once

[scarlet moss]

What’s with Xbox and HLL lately? The last couple days it takes me atleast three tries to get into a server. I’ll wait in queue, get in, choose my side, and the game crashes. Repeat for an hour before I can play the game. Literally my favorite game and can’t even play it half the time and it’s getting annoying. Let’s hope Vietnam isn’t as buggy.

[vital jackal]

It's resolved thank you 🫡

[stoic garnet]

Half track with 360 rotation on gun would at least make it useable as a meme Strat

If you had a cracked shooter

[zinc mauve]

any1 down to run tank squad

[wind shore]

Hello

[real parrot]

Armour system is pretty ok as is, I'd rather have this that its predictable that a wonky system that works 50% of the time and the other 50% you don't pen an M10 with a Tiger 2

[finite berry]

I dunno man, it just feels way too arcadey to me

Wished that actual armour values matter and not some stats that make World of Tanks feel like over-the-top realism.

[real parrot]

Firstly, hell let loose is not realistic nor it tries to be, secondly, the armor system itself don't have many inaccuracies, if any, the Puma should pen the Shermans on the side and thats it, the health itself is the same method that ALL the others game uses, in war thunder the health pool is just more separated into the modules. All in all, this system is the best option for competitive games.

[finite berry]

It is not realistic, but it's getting advertised as realistic. Thus, it should also try to live up to that.

It's not about inaccuracies, it's about armour system being just slightly above Battlefield level.

[real parrot]

The game should not try to ber advertised to be realistic, instead of trying to be something that isn't. For now, the system itself is simple, understable and immersive, wich is enough.

[finite berry]

But it is, and that's what matters.

[real parrot]

I'm rewatching the trailers and I'm not finding it being advertised as realistic however

[analog apex]

As Elise said... it advertises to be realistic. We don't need any simulation level stuff, but at least the base values for the armour so it doesn't behave as arcady as so far.

[finite berry]

Like, it's not like I'm asking about APHE, APCR and HEAT for tanks, I'm just asking for the game to stop having the in-depth armour system equal to a mobile game

Because that's what it is now

Actual armour thickness and angling should matter as well as gun calibre. Thus, armour will be more in-depth while still being easy to learn and challenging to master

Plus, it would actually make more tanks getting added meaningful because then, tanks would be actually different

[analog apex]

yeah, something between SQ44 and HLL would be nice

[finite berry]

Yep

Squad 44 is too elaborate for the audience HLL is aiming at

[analog apex]

yeah

[finite berry]

But HLL's armour system right now just feels like a joke

Especially considering you're buying a "realistic" game

Like, bro, why is the tank still driving when the tracks are destroyed

[analog apex]

this! ☝️

and keeps on driving even after hitting an AT mine

not to mention the mines are placed onto the ground instead of into it

[finite berry]

And for the love of God, stop satchels actually outright destroying tanks

Make them immobilise the tank, sure, but nothing more than that

[real parrot]

Angling does matter, the only difference is that armor thickness is defined by class, not number, penetration is also defined by class, that creates a scene with the tanks you have that is pretty close as it would be, with the exception of the Tiger and Panther penning the Jumbo, as they wouldn't. In the module system tracks and turrets are indeed arcadey, but for an AT to be able to track already a tank pretty easily it would mess up with balance big time.
As I said, the game in this state is a good balance between immersion and balance.

[analog apex]

immobilise or cripple - fully destroy at least 2 random components

[real parrot]

And yes Satchels are definitevly OP

[analog apex]

also internal fire inside the tank and critical hits needed when for isntance hitting the ammo rack

kill the crew memeber(s) without them hopping out should be a chance

[finite berry]

Yes, and that's dumb. Why would armour thickness depend on the tank type and not the actual tank? By having armour depend on the class, many tanks will play and feel the same or at least extremely similar despite them being very different.

[real parrot]

To simply things, as there are only many tanks on that class that can be seen on the same game and they behave simirary

[finite berry]

An AT easily immobilising a tank completely would discourage/punish solo tankers and force tankers to stick with/cooperate with infantry or suffer. I see that as an absolute win.

[finite berry]

But it's too simple.

Again, this is just slightly above Battlefield.

[real parrot]

Sounds good in teory, in practise infantry never do anything

[finite berry]

Good, then suffer.

[real parrot]

Good enough for me

[finite berry]

Y'all are always complaining that there is barely any communication and teamwork, but when faced with suggestions incentivising teamwork and communication, you don't want that either

[real parrot]

Oh there is comunication and teamwork, and still infantry is unable to defend tanks by the nature of the game

Even when trying is practically impossible to stop an AT from killing a medium at range

This is due to quick spawn, range and penetration of the AT weapon

[finite berry]

Again, a more elaborate armour system would fix that

Because an AT would have to actually deal component damage instead of just go "hit that tank three times from the side".

[finite berry]

Add tickets and persistent ammo

[real parrot]

I really don't want nor I need Hll to be like Squad 44

[finite berry]

Again, I'm not saying it should be like it

That'd be way too much

[real parrot]

That is the whole reason why Squad 44, while being a more complete game is in the state it is

[finite berry]

But HLL should be closer to Squad 44 than to Battlefield

At least if it wants to be realistic

Which it isn't, I get that

[real parrot]

it doesnt really

[finite berry]

You got a point there.

It's one of the reasons

[real parrot]

I believe the reason got to be a prominent game in this niche is that achieves a good level of immersion while still providing balance and fairness across factions that encourage competitive games, coordinated and tactical games other than just go there and shoot

The right mixture between realism and arcade is what this type of games want, and Hll got closer than SQ44

[finite berry]

HLL manages to deliver that experience superficially while being rather shallow in many ways beneath that

Which is good in its own way because it increases both player influx and also retention

[analog apex]

You want to get rid of the problem AT guys redeploying for ammo and killing them is making them a favour? Then naturally you gotta want persistent ammo, and potentially some form of local spawn tickets. But the limited ammo definitely.

The ATs are successful because their attempts have no end - nor ammo wise, nor when dying one time after the other.

And the ATs know that and so they keep firing their rockets even without thinking.

and even against infantry

[peak knot]

there's basically an endless supply of tanks so why wouldn't there be an endless supply of rockets

realism argument is bull when the sheer amount of tanks far exceeds realism

[analog apex]

because when a tank gets destroyed, it costs fuel and it takes time to get back unlike the AT guy who is back almost immediately

the tanks don't have unlimited ammunition either

[peak knot]

and yet the tank is far stronger than the AT

at a certain point the tank just needs to git gud

[analog apex]

and usually get destroyed even before they used it all

[analog apex]

pretty much because it's not vulnerable as there are only few components to destroy, and the primary thing that matters is health and not a thing like immobilisation for instance

[peak knot]

the AT dies to a single bullet, arty, huge HE splash and anything else. The tank only dies to ATs

heavily unbalanced in favor of the tank

[analog apex]

yes, but still I would want their damage model be more realistic as a tradeoff

the modules should matter more and there should be more of them, and the critical hits

and a small chance of killing a guy inside a tank via penetration shot on a weak spot

[peak knot]

chance to die makes for a bad game mechanic

[analog apex]

as I said, a small chance

[real parrot]

I believe there are enough people that have skill issue already that would get absolutely throw off by that

[analog apex]

if it would be like 1:20, I think it would be OK

[real parrot]

If you want to kill the game before Vietnam there are better ways tho

[analog apex]

1:10 if a precision hit would be needed on a weakspot
that would make it rare, but possible

[finite berry]

Add tank decks or make tanks cost more resources/respawn points, easy

[analog apex]

also, bandaging inside the vehicles should be a thing too

[real parrot]

that does makes sense

[peak knot]

I would love for tanks to be much rarer and – to compensate for that – stronger, but I don't think tankers would enjoy being unable to play for a big chunk of the match

[real parrot]

If satchels don't one shoot tank, if AT have to aim to weakspots and can't pen me from the side, if tanks also is as fast and as agile as is now, with my usual crew against normies it would be a masacre

[analog apex]

that I can agree upon

[peak knot]

as it stands good tankers with good positioning are already near impossible to deal with as infantry (without tank support). Definitely doesn't need to be made even more unbalanced

[real parrot]

A competent tank crew can just walk around and get 130 kills by itself if there are no tanks on the other team

[peak knot]

the challenge for the devs is balancing it such that one armor unit doesn't become impossible to defeat while also making it fun for idiots who like to shift-w into enemy infantry

[real parrot]

No heavy infantry support needed

[finite berry]

God forbid that things actually require skill and good playing gets rewarded, gotta dumb everything down so even the dumbest player can get that dopamine hit

[real parrot]

It still requires skill however, you need to position, aim and hit a specific spot

Tracks are a no go, turret too, cannon is a lost shoot, and depending on the angle it could bounce

Making it harder will make tanks dominate the field big time

[peak knot]

What about the skilled, well playing infantry? Shouldn't they be able to do something (effectively) about armor as well?

[analog apex]

yeah... dig mines into the dirt 😛

[real parrot]

not the most effective way to deal with a tank shooting at you from 400 meters

[analog apex]

should be however able to replace already existing intact AT gun for free - the AT gun should act as 50 supplies in this one specific case - just because we don't have ability to move the AT guns

it would act like repositioning

would work only in like 25-50m range of the existing AT gun

[real parrot]

There is also the fact that infantry only renders up to 500m and tanks do render at 1000m

[analog apex]

however the AT guns do render as well on 1K or don't they?

and explosions kill also non-rendered infantry too

aka windmills MGs vs Soviet HQ tanks

[real parrot]

only when they are fully built

[analog apex]

ofc

there is no any other state when it can be a danger to the tank

and its blueprint is just... a blueprint

[silk igloo]

I'm sure they could change it so that an AT gun blueprint is visible at 1km too

Maybe just... get rid of the blueprints and swap them to unbuilt models

[past vortex]

remember that the blueprints are green tho

[silk igloo]

okay it's 青print

[lucid gazelle]

Mod t00ls?

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/yellow-emoji-no-no-emotiguy-no-no-no-gif-gif-9742000569423889376

[stoic star]

hunting juice

[past veldt]

<@&365680483276816385> ban the sad little edgelord

[vapid forum]

Guys is hll Vietnam coming to game pass? Im too broke to afford it

[river rover]

I think that would be entirely up to Microsoft. They usually fork out tons of cash to allow folks to have in that regard.

[vapid forum]

Have you bought hell let loose standard? Did it lose a lot of players due to it being removed from game pass?

[pearl ledge]

this game probly has about 10% of the players it used to if I had to guess.

[vapid forum]

I don't know why they had to take it off game pass but i hope they return with the Vietnam

[pearl ledge]

ive not played in years but generally gamepass made the game worse imo. you get stuck on team full of gamepass noobs might as well just not play

[river rover]

I only play on PC \ Steam

[vapid forum]

I mean i wouldn't consider myself a pro but i was a noob too and after couple of games i became average and understood the goal of the match

[vapid forum]

Don't you think game would be better if it had more players? Even if they were noobs kinda

Is the game team producer here or something

I hope they get their game on game pass

[pearl ledge]

thats the problem. there are people who are level 200 and dont understand basic mechanics

[river rover]

My point is that Microsoft makes that decision. They fork out the cash to have it on their platform. The game though will be for sale probably on all the same platforms if that's what you mean?

[vapid forum]

Well you can't stop them from playing, at least they know how to shoot the enemies

I played matches with few but pro players, they were boring

You need the numbers for this game

[river rover]

The game will probably come out the same way it currently is. Xbox and PC Gamepass, PS5, Epic, Steam

Just not free on Gamepass unless Microsoft pays. Same holds true for PS5. HLL was free on PS5 soon as it came to console. They forked the cash.

[vapid forum]

Well it's gonna be draining tbh, getting 30$ game pass and getting the game too, not all are in the us or 1st world countries

[river rover]

Probably be way more than that upon release.

I would think minimal would be 65. Just guessing. Consoles are always way more too. 🙁

[vapid forum]

I hate that every game i like is super expensive and require game pass to play since it's online

[harsh egret]

I'd recommend the game to my friends if they ever got it to stop crashing in half of the matches you try to play. I don't think T17 understands the concept and power of word of mouth marketing, but they are losing out pretty bad on that since none of us can recommend this game in good conscience.

Oh well

I recommended it to one of my best irl friends. He bought it. He crashed in each of his first three attempts to play, then his comms bugged on his forth attempt which was on Remagen so he also experienced the game running at 4 fps on Xbox the entire time. He uninstalled and never played it again. He still thanks me for wasting his money every time I see him 😂

But they want to focus on new maps when that is the state of the game. It blows my mind.

[slate canopy]

Man, you love to complain don't you?

[harsh egret]

Just a paid customer sharing his experience. If you don't like that, not my problem.

[grizzled kiln]

If on PC, make sure to run DX11 as DX12 can lead to stutters and crahes. If on console, play another game I guess 😄

https://giphy.com/gifs/celebs-muppets-elmo-jPAdK8Nfzzwt2

[slate canopy]

I have no issues with DX12 but maybe I am just lucky 🤷‍♀️

[slate canopy]

When all you do is share it over and over versus giving other insight, it gets old real quick.

[harsh egret]

Don't read it then. Again, not my problem.

These companies should do better about delivering a product they want to sell or they can face the complaints.

I've bought the game, DLCs, played for years, co-founded a clan and have paid for a server rental for over a year that I no longer even bother to play on myself. I think I have a right to speak and be frustrated.

[worthy charm]

As long you dont feel stupid repeating yourself again

And again

And again

And again

And again

-# And again Fades into the void

[harsh egret]

You guys know you're my biggest fans. Don't pretend.

You love it

I don't feel stupid at all. Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one around the HLL community with common sense 🙂

[cosmic pilot]

I hold the monopoly

[finite berry]

No, me

[rancid pecan]

Its not only about crashing. Some community serv admins are so trash that i dont have what to say. We found good sniping spot in el alamein map with my friend and we were like on 25 kill streak when we got kicked for "not communicating" while our recon unit had like no orders or requests from commander or other unit leaders, we were just like enjoying our session

[flint zealot]

im ngl i havent noticed a drop in players at all, atleast in aus, but i notice more people have mics

[flint zealot]

also true idk why ppl are upset for u voicing ur valid criticisms, at the end of the day were all here cause we enjoy the game and want it to be as good as it can be 🤷‍♂️

[blissful mango]

Yaoi💀

[flint zealot]

its called eeffoc

and its funny

[harsh egret]

I just hope people at least get paid a few dollars for all the damage control and dismissiveness whenever someone has negative feedback. God forbid we hope the situation ever improves.

[flint zealot]

also im an xbox player what did u expect 😭

[blissful mango]

How does it correlate?

[worthy charm]

Youre Master of the naughty list

[flint zealot]

dont worry.. 🥀

i will also say that ive yet to play a full game on current stalingrad without my game crashing atleast once

[hard whale]

Only thing that kind stop me from being on hell is the Random idc from game on ever time try do and team17 please do better

[flint zealot]

im confused

[cosmic pilot]

Don't tempt me with a naughty time

[past vortex]

maybe its the wholly unsuitable input method idk

[thin lotus]

Uncontested Bad-Take-Haver Champion years in a row

[flint zealot]

my hll hot take is they should add a faster temp sprint option'

or atleast make the animations less floaty

[cosmic pilot]

This take is colder than the weather in the US this whole week

[flint zealot]

idk im not on here often

also im in aus and were having a heatwave atm so im literally the opposite

but im glad ppl agree, i wouldve thought old heads would think its immersion breaking idk

[silk igloo]

they should make WP smokes act like WP smoke, then we wouldn't need to sprint faster

[drifting surge]

Hello guys anyone looking for friends to play together?

[worthy charm]

#console-looking-for-unit or for a clan #1343089641489961001

[lucid tusk]

They'd find someway to say it wouldn't work, just like open top tank destroyers and SPGs

[worthy charm]

https://klipy.com/gifs/good-one-good-one-1

Open vehicles definitely work amazing in a game where I get thrown rockets at my face 50m out of HQ.

[lucid tusk]

Have you tried || getting good || ?

[worthy charm]

I wouldnt dare to try

Maybe good tank player can tell me how it really works

[lucid tusk]

It's simple, just dont tank

[worthy charm]

You dont need them to win anyway...

Someone said somewhere that some comp team won all matches without tanks

but im to lazy to look for that...

[thin lotus]

is it possible to teleport tanks

is this lost technology

[lucid tusk]

Tanking does have its moments but when your infantry support is blind deaf and dumb it's an absolute slog

[past veldt]

i actually recently found new teleport tech with half tracks

Free locked red zone teleports

[worthy charm]

Oh Great Comp player, may you train me in the arts of getting good with tanks?

Not tanking isnt an option sadly, as I yearn for the tanks to greatly

[oak current]

Crit is no tanker 👀

Crit is however, the one to take down a tiger with a Katyusha Strike

[past veldt]

Altberg is right. My fellow teammates refused to roster me as a tanker. Once, an actual tanker was watching me play and he said I did things in the tank he'd never seen before. I do not believe it was a compliment

[oak current]

people say something similar about my Factorio Factories

[worthy charm]

Rude People

I love the bridge of death, but I was only watching shortly

[worthy charm]

Youre surely still better than me, as I am just a filthy casual. One that at times runs around with a flamethrower in the enemy backline and gets 1,7k CS for setting nodes ablaze.

[past veldt]

I think as with all FPS games. Can't do DPS while dead, so prioritise staying alive over literally everything

even more so in tanks as getting back to DPS takes a good few minutes

that and you cant be good if your crew is bad, so only tank with friends

[worthy charm]

so only tank with friends
Sir, im a discord mod

-# also my friends only want to play lol

[past veldt]

My condolences to your mother

Didn't mod my report earlier though

smh

[rancid pecan]

I once took medium tank alone and somehow found ideal spot where i got like 20 kills then got blown up by satchel

[lucid tusk]

I only tank with friends (1 friend), lock the tank squad with a 2 man crew and ignore the whining in chat and request spams

[worthy charm]

Thats not terrible, but its shows the quality of public games.

[worthy charm]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gigachad-13

Spamming Stuarts on hedgerow maps is one of the most fun things in HLL objectively

[lucid tusk]

We'll take a greyhound out and treat it like a jeep in battlefield, I swear it breaks people's minds, they cant process that they're getting rundown by a recon tank in their garries, we barely use the gun

[worthy charm]

That even better tbh

[rancid pecan]

Recons are super comfortable and fast but the problem is that u get sent into space with only 1 round of any ap shell

[worthy charm]

Though I like it more to take a light an kill mediums and heavys

[rancid pecan]

U wont get to know who got u killed

[worthy charm]

I wish recon tank camera would load without someone in there... Its sadly one time use in a 2 man scenario.

[worthy charm]

Thats not a problem xD

How much does a recon cost again? 100 fuel or even less than that?

[lucid tusk]

When you're running off 4 zyns and bourbon the fear of death means nothing, recce tanks go zoom

[rancid pecan]

Yeah but in order to make some kills and not die at match start u have to run from mediums and heavies like mouse from cats

[worthy charm]

You give those pub tankers way more skill than they actually have.

Many cant even fast turn in a heavy

and Im not talking about some fancy fast turn, basicly just drive and turn 180

[real parrot]

spawning recons at the beginning of the match is an action that will have you removed from live due to misterious causes

[rancid pecan]

Bro majority of players are more skilled than i am with 200 hours, like when i try taking someone down in assault role i get sniped from half a map the second i peek out of shelter to find any moving pixel

[worthy charm]

Dont forget the first tank crew to die, gets the heavy tank :}

[lucid tusk]

Most people with 200 hours/level 150+ still dont understand basic fundamentals, youre giving them way too much credit

[real parrot]

not exactly skill, most of it is just experience and someone that toke emotional attachment to a bush and made it his home

[real parrot]

200 hours is around level 80

I have 2.6k and I'm at 265

[rancid pecan]

Well i agree here, when i try camping i usually get 3-5 kills too 😁

[lucid tusk]

Im saying the vast majority of players are bad

[past veldt]

Not really, if i for some reason have 5 tank crews at the start of the game, i'll spawn them a light and RV for the excess (after they build nodes)

[rancid pecan]

But rushing enemy positions usually ends in 5-8 kills and 20 deaths throughout all match

[real parrot]

They are, but not because they have bad skills (some do), but because they lack experience

[past veldt]

Tanks in pub games are essentially an automatic win

[worthy charm]

They have to be for me to get 40 infantry kills... My aim is terrible
(Im aware 40 isnt good)

[real parrot]

The only instance that I will accept a recon spawning in the start is at a comp game as a complex tank strat

[lucid tusk]

Higher than the average infantry player lol

[past veldt]

It's fine in pubs too. If you have more tanks than the enemy, you generally win

[rancid pecan]

My record is 56 kills and thats only when i got invited to full and experienced panther squad (yeah those 56 kills arent mine, i was driver)

[real parrot]

If your tanks can't get to the point without hitting a wall and flipping out, or driving inside a river, or be blown off by someone with a satchel, or be absolutely owned by a better tank crew

[lucid tusk]

I just wish tanks were more threatening. I remember playing FH2 back in the day, if the Germans had a King Tiger the entire allied team would try to converge on it

[real parrot]

The difference in skill on tank crews can make for an abismal difference

[worthy charm]

56 isnt bad, maybe a bit boring in a heavy tank....

[real parrot]

I don't remember my exact record, I think it was around 220 or so

[rancid pecan]

With such counts you shouldve gotten an entire level of the role you played

[worthy charm]

One of the most fun rounds I have even had was 70-80 kills in a Luchs on foy.
That was back in early access. Those were the good time, when I didnt yet knew how bad I was.

[past veldt]

right, and if your commander is currently in intensive care unconcious, you won't win then either. No need to caveat things with "if they're bad, they're bad"

[worthy charm]

With what?

[real parrot]

what do you think

[worthy charm]

Arty i would assume

[real parrot]

nah

[rancid pecan]

Heavy?

[worthy charm]

Even I got 150 in those once

[real parrot]

Tank

[past veldt]

My best tank game was on Foy where we had more CE than the opposite team at the end of the game. That was fun

[worthy charm]

Then its impressive, for me simple minded noob.

[rancid pecan]

I like when i accidentally teamkill someone when aiming at enemies and then he keeps teamkilling me for entire match until getting banned lmao

[lucid tusk]

My best was ironically in a puma on kharkov, 8 tank kills, 4 trucks, and I think 89 infantry

Post nerf too

[real parrot]

with my current level on TC, I would need around 500k points to upgrade it

[real parrot]

Today I was falling of a cliff with the tank and landed on top of a friendly and he got mad at us

[rancid pecan]

Dont like that map, always getting sniped out of nowhere when trying to point out any moving pixel through fog and trees

[real parrot]

Foy is thought for the spotter, but it can be very fun if played well

[past veldt]

oh yeah, it's not a great map

it's not even a good tank map really. It's AT gun heaven

[real parrot]

I discovered how bad the new map is for tanks on the middle points

[lucid tusk]

If you can find a good spot in the woods that let's you put down the blueprint its great for AT guns

[real parrot]

Is AWFULL

[lucid tusk]

To be fair tanks and urban isn't a great mix

[real parrot]

Usually AT guns are not a problem on Foy

[lucid tusk]

Unless your infantry is switched on (lol lmao even) smolensk is NOT for tanks

[past veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1320450047002939428/1466904124640591964/attachment.gif

found it

[real parrot]

I mean, Carentan, SME and SMDM are playable on the city, but Smolensk has literal Czech hedgehog on its medium cap

[lucid tusk]

I think that had to do with the fact that most players either want a rocket launcher or an SMG, the AT requires a very small amount of teamwork and that's terrifying for most (i only play pub though)

[lucid tusk]

Those one, the urban areas are way wider than smolensk though

[real parrot]

The problem I see its not that, but the fact that the AT gun requires distance to be useful, on Foy you can put it on the woods on the west side or on the east side, middle you have no cover, either you take the tank by surprise or you won't be able to even get a shoot

Not to mention you can get easily flanked either side

I see them a lot more on Kursk, El Alamein and Remagen

They are much more annoying there

[past veldt]

You don't need to kill the tanks with the AT gun. Even just one hit from an AT gun forces a tank to hide and repair as they are now one shot from a heavy

[cosmic pilot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/558719334130647051/1460125977593254036/image.png?ex=697e2b88&is=697cda08&hm=21f212e714e28967a0bdef4eb6f6a5ef416953c083fed9d1d692feb36cd52d48&
One of my best tank commanding in recent memory.
We still lost 😔

[past veldt]

The difference Foy is that tanks can see for quite a distance so you don't even need to communicate to your friendly tanks it has happened

[cosmic pilot]

Most of the garrisons destroyed were enemy red garrisons in my defensive territory

[real parrot]

well, yes, but you either double tap wich is really difficult in a pub or you get like 15 seconds before the repairs and come again

[past veldt]

Sometimes you cannot do more for a team. I played commander recently. Built 24 garrisons entirely within softcap and was top frag on my team. Lost 2-3 having been 4-1 up like 3 or 4 times 🙂

[real parrot]

If the game is lost, it is lost, no matter what you do

There is so much a single man can do

Or a single squad, even

[cosmic pilot]

The other best tank command I had in recent memory was 100 kills in a t-34 in the first 5minutes of Kursk offensive

I think that map crashed

[real parrot]

T-34 is bugged as hell

[cosmic pilot]

T-34 is bae

🅱️ussin 🅱️ias

[real parrot]

the armor boucnes everything at a slight angle, it bounces so much that it makes the ground bounce underneath the tracks when going on 4th gear and the commander and gunner can just sing tripalosky

[dawn summit]

uptade what time has com

[cosmic pilot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1450641914503237815/1466935689806614762/image.png?ex=697e8dd2&is=697d3c52&hm=afe90b2b6a6afb792c38016bdcd75830174ab66b9c21b8b1f5a51a883fc29c55&

comes in two flavors

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1450641914503237815/1466936112755773581/image.png?ex=697e8e37&is=697d3cb7&hm=2b05cfe070a946c1ed6e3d49ee28a57504e6715f6905c50e80b1efb4b1674a77&

[static condor]

Hi

[dire pollen]

when will we get metz

[gray lagoon]

We won't, Seelow Height won the vote

[stoic garnet]

Pre or post score inflation update

[finite berry]

Do you genuinely believe that?

[gray lagoon]

What do you mean? was there a problem with the vote?

[past veldt]

19 January 2025. Can't remember when the scores got inflation

[finite berry]

No, but why would they scrap Metz?

Personally, I believe that they'll just postpone Metz and publish it later at some point

[stoic garnet]

That would be pre. Also real you do inf? I can’t believe I let you press me lmao

[gray lagoon]

I do think Metz would be cool as well. During the vote I didn't realize how cool of a map it is, but we need more soviet maps

[past veldt]

"I do inf"?

I play commander and logi SL

[stoic garnet]

Inf is inf

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-20591327

[past veldt]

I probably get more tank kills with Katyusha than you do with Heavies 😉

[stoic garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/djpemb-locked-in-vs-tweaking-muffin-the-balers-dog-gif-11269780688940043851

[rancid pecan]

Anyone know which new vehicles theyre gonna add?

[devout isle]

car

[flint zealot]

truck

[stoic garnet]

took 3 years to add 1 vehicle, check back in in 2029

devs are on cooldown

[devout isle]

i got kicked from my unit for quote "making a friend" what does this mean

[tawdry sluice]

idk lol

[devout isle]

when i died it said "you have been kicked from your unit... reason: making a friend"

like ???

i havent made any friends

[slate canopy]

Making space for a friend?

It's one of the reasons to kick someone from your squad.

[devout isle]

it was like the actual kick notification that said it

there wasnt anybody in chat that said it

[slate canopy]

Yup

[devout isle]

it just said "making a friend" as in i made a new friend or something

[slate canopy]

Squadlead can kick someone from their squad "Making space for friend".

[devout isle]

then why doesnt it say making space

it just says "making a friend" that doesnt make any sense

[slate canopy]

I don't know

I don't make the game.

[devout isle]

if they kicked me to make room for a friend thats just rude

[slate canopy]

Orrr they want their friend to join them 🤷‍♀️

[devout isle]

then make a new squad

[slate canopy]

Say they are one of the two recon squads

you can't make a new squad.

plus, say your OP is very far behind lines, doing a flank

Now you're making them do it again, and you'd lose your SL if they just leave it to make a new squad.

I've done it before but I'm like "Hey my friend wants to join me, anyone cool with going?"

[devout isle]

well i was just infantry

[fleet gull]

It's not that deep

People are gonna want to play with their friends and they're gonna tend to prioritize them over people they don't know

[devout isle]

im just trying to play the game

is that too much to ask for

because i play machine gunner, and when i get kicked, almost all the squads are full/locked and a lot of them already have machine gunner taken

and i have to wait forever to get back in, and sometimes i dont even get machine gunner

[gray lagoon]

Machine gunner is a very popular class. Maybe play automatic rifleman or assault but those are also popular

[devout isle]

well both of those classes are always instantly taken so i dont even try

[gray lagoon]

Support at level 3 gets a submachine gun

[fleet gull]

Sometimes you can't get the class you want, try something different

There's enough that usually I can play something that I like alright

[devout isle]

every other class i try to play people get mad at me when i play them

officer i get kicked for not having a mic

rifleman i just cant aim so i dont play it

people get furious when im medic and cant revive someone because ill instantly get shot if i try to go get them

anti tank i cant find any tanks and just die before i get to any

people get mad when i play engineer because builds are in the way or dont like the position of them

[gray lagoon]

People will get mad at you alot if you don't have a mic to explain what you are doing

[devout isle]

as a tanker my team doesnt like me because i cant communicate well

i dont even know whats going on with artillery