mess-hall

[midnight salmon]

more people != better quality

clearly they have a management issue and a qa issue

[nova pivot]

Ben is not online, fresh news today

Trust me

[past veldt]

But maybe they hired some QA people for HLLV

[worthy charm]

Correct, just as rule 1:
More Playtime = Better opinion

[past veldt]

[midnight salmon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/copium-meme

imagine the studio would actually play the game

https://klipy.com/gifs/big-brain-lateralus

[molten sail]

True, but it would be a major mistake to hire people who have no experience

[finite berry]

:(

Also, HLLV will be a success for T17, calling it

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/getout-gif-16327023334064302194

[finite berry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/838036573042769970/1390793522516590702/tenor.gif

[midnight salmon]

i hope they go bankrupt on it

[worthy charm]

10 years experience for an entrance position?
You just need at least 10 years everywhere for anything.

[molten sail]

Monetarily sure, player base wise will be similar or smaller than hll

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/kicking-him-alan-smiling-friends-knocked-out-kicking-his-teeth-out-gif-14787404105374321547

[molten sail]

Who said anything about 10 years or even years?

[worthy charm]

Not a way T17 as a big publisher goes bankrupt because of HLLV, at worst Expression gets closed.

[midnight salmon]

i said hope not predict

[worthy charm]

I was kidding, you gotta know the memes with colleges graduate that dont get jobs.

[molten sail]

Hard to tell who is joking around here

[worthy charm]

I better dont say anything about that. :}

[midnight salmon]

they probably "hired" 15 claude code max subscriptions and hope it will just fix the problems

honest question though, why is our timeline so cooked? can we go back to 2015?

[worthy charm]

Rather turn back to 44 BCE
#SaveCaesar

[midnight salmon]

as long as its not 1935 ⚰️

[worthy charm]

Why 35 tho?

33 obviously not

39 is even worse

but 35?

[midnight salmon]

idk any time in there was significantly more cooked than ours

[finite berry]

Probably.

[worthy charm]

I would say it will be bigger

just because of cooler weapons, vehicles and stuff

[finite berry]

^^ yep

[cosmic pilot]

It's an indication of my preferred play style.
I prefer either conducting security or vehicular breakthrough.
Which means most time is spent not in direct contact with the enemy, but when it is all the kills happen in a short timeframe.

[worthy charm]

Sure buddy

xD

[molten sail]

What's with the sarcasm he is clearly a strategy orientated player

[cosmic pilot]

Can't tell if sarcasm

[distant mantle]

Its because y o u a r e p r e g n a n t

[cosmic pilot]

I just want other people to laugh with me at a demonstration of a massive skill issue

Quite possibly the biggest skill issue publicly admitted on this server

https://tenor.com/view/trump-big-gif-8284786026051198647

[sturdy quarry]

do we know if we are getting any more U19 hotfixes or just waiting on U20 to break more stuff?

[slate canopy]

We know nothing

[sturdy quarry]

ok thanks

[past vortex]

i dont think they are aware of any issues

[past veldt]

We've never had a hotfix this late for general gameplay issues.

We only get hotfixes in the initial weeks after release and then you wait for the next update.

It's easier on server owners, but it'd be nice to get some generic fixes every so often and then the updates just being actual content releases

[nova pivot]

Game is dead

Approx 30 days without any useful Comms

And we are still waiting for the results

I'm sure they fired Ben too

[novel geyser]

no... they cant have

first they put wombat into a pie... and now ben?

[silk igloo]

free trial period of BenAI ended so T17 terminated it.

[nova pivot]

Looks like you are promoting something @worthy charm

Execute him

[novel geyser]

kill! kill! kill!

[gilded spade]

#1462109451799756913

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-lol-cant-stop-laughing-gif-14341553

[waxen plover]

:)()()()()()()

[past vortex]

<@&365680483276816385>

[analog copper]

What happened with the map vote? Was there a problem?

[nova pivot]

Trashed

The roadmap too

The game is going to be shut down next month

[analog copper]

Why do you say that?

[cosmic pilot]

He is a rabble rouser

[lucid tusk]

It's confirmed, they're actually bricking any PCs that still have it installed for good measure

[worthy charm]

Never trust floppa, he cant be believed

[midnight salmon]

claude code subscriptions ran out so the dev studio had to shut down

[serene temple]

Do you ever wonder how come look on a enemy team you are destroying?

[tall kettle]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Some players may experience the following issues during Steam's routine maintenance:

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[novel geyser]

dev beef when

[nova pivot]

Never

The game is dead

Ben now works as street vendor in Bangladesh

They are going to release a last patch with 20 new inaccurate cosmetics and that is all

RIP hll

[cedar ore]

Whenever they decide to put the beef in the oven obviously

[errant vapor]

Hello friends

I am trying to level assault to level 9

(I’m sinking like four hours per level atp)

Do you folks have advice on how to run the XP along a little faster?

[slate canopy]

Build nodes, switch to assault.

As long as nodes stay up, the passive XP goes to assault.

[errant vapor]

Been doing that and running supply truck

[slate canopy]

It takes quite a bit of XP and some time.

[tall kettle]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE NOW ENDING** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Steam maintenance has now ended but some issues may still remain until a game restart

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[cosmic pilot]

@past veldt this is the site
https://hellor.pro/?region=NA

[cosmic pilot]

imagine to having massive amounts of statistical data on matches and your skill ranking system only counts kd and kpm instead of doing anything useful with the data

[fringe hollow]

they'll come back on April first and say "April fools" with a fully fixed game. Trust. Not copium

[real parrot]

Then they will completely delete Hll

[stoic garnet]

turns out a game where you get to win the objective when the enemy is dead

correlates winning with killing strongly

top 25 NA looks right to me

[real parrot]

And yet, you can have 100 kills and still loose because no one decided to go to defense

I recently realised I only have 2.5 KD

[stoic garnet]

And Karthus players in league lost 15% of their games when he was immortal due to a glitch

Players with advantage can lose games

[real parrot]

What

What even is a Karthus

[tranquil pulsar]

RIP PVP games. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TVS83ZLTNc&t=6s

[past vortex]

kinda crazy they now sell it so openly... nothing new tho
ACs could ban players with such devices btw :}

[real parrot]

I mean they could but would also put the company at a weird position, like, what if the company sued the AC saying they are attacking their clients or something like that

[past vortex]

dont think any court ever upheld a right to play

[real parrot]

Not in that aspect, but the company could argue that they are hurting their products thus making them lose money

And

[past vortex]

dont think they would win that

[real parrot]

There is also the problem of the AC knowing you have the model

Wich tbh is one step further into the privacy field

[past vortex]

good ACs are well aware of your devices :}

its how lifetime bans get enforced :}

people had to buy not only a new pc but also a new display :}

[real parrot]

Linux implementations on different games would try to push against kernel level AC and such

[past vortex]

its not something you cant get around but then for those who know that already available better

[real parrot]

I have never cheat in an online game but I don't like a company that can get hacked to have such acces to my PC tbh

[past vortex]

the only thing new is that its offered mainstream and without knowledge needed

[past vortex]

i hate to break it to you .... :D

[real parrot]

Well, that is very subjective

[real parrot]

There is nothing to break, I'm well aware, and I try to take as much precautions as I can

[molten sail]

Well all those sites are more so for fun to look at your statistics as the game doesn't provide any

And in this game the support score is massively over rated anyway

[peak knot]

Hellor uses a lot more than kd and kpm for its ranking anyway

CE is the most important and mostly about destroying spawns and vehicles (or rather, taking the killing blow on them)

[molten sail]

Well my point is that it's not something to take to heart

[peak knot]

With hardly anyone building garrisons in pubs, having at least some support score seems very valuable. Beyond a certain point it just means your garries haven’t been pressured

[peak knot]

Also not something to completely disregard

Hellors scoring systems are well thought out

Half a player’s score is their win rating too, which encompasses most game mechanics

[past veldt]

Much appreciated

To be fair, the #2 comp team in HLL doesn't do any data on KPM or KD. All just vibes and cohesion

[oak current]

• PC Comp team

[past veldt]

Nah, there isn't a console team better

[midnight salmon]

score computation on this site is really not that great. it mostly relies on kpm as well for individual ranking, and win/loss rate is overemphasized. doesnt count in big plays like 800m rocket snipes to get garries or ops and so on and so forth. it's a nice "my peepee larger than yours" comparison site but nothing more

it mostly rewards winning side joiners and good players who play in full squads or do tryhard stuff like double sl in pub (hardcore cringe)

(not discounting the work that went into, somehow you have to compute a score based on stats, just saying that ranking higher or lower than someone else doesnt neccessarily mean they are better players)

[vestal minnow]

is their crossplay between ps5 and pc (steam)

[worthy charm]

Nope

#mess-hall message

[vestal minnow]

will it ever come

[worthy charm]

Unlikely

Its not about that they couldnt do it, the issue is that it wouldnt be fair at all.

[molten sail]

It should be done either way, since the game isn't about kills but communications and building garrisons

[vestal minnow]

then just make controller mode and keyboard and mouse mode

[keen cave]

@civic comet Hi! speel jij hll pc of console?

[hazy prism]

Hey all 🫡 My mate just got me into this a week ago and now I'm obsessed 🤣

[midnight salmon]

poor guy doesnt know what he's getting himself into

[nova pivot]

I hope not

[fluid pawn]

I'm ready to be pinged, however who has a good medic clip for me

I just hoping that some medic madman is in here that has a clip on hand for me

[nova pivot]

@fluid pawn

Sorry, I haven't finished reading the sentence

[fluid pawn]

Yes mr flop

[nova pivot]

Mybad

[fluid pawn]

Have you by chance got a medic clip for me

[nova pivot]

I haven't played medic in ages

[fluid pawn]

I was worried about this

ahaha

[nova pivot]

Why don't we ping everyone called Desmond doss in the server?

[cosmic pilot]

I wouldn't count 800m rocket snipes as a big play.
What counts as a big play is how quickly you start capping the next SP after having just captured the active one.

But yes, the site's score calculation is underwhelming.

I would make my own formula but that means pulling the data manually or figuring out a way to get it from crcon without being a server owner

[midnight salmon]

you're right, only absolute noobs would do such a thing 🧠

[midnight salmon]

i could provide you with flying tank and rubber banding clips 🙂

[fluid pawn]

Dw, already have enoguh of those

[midnight salmon]

😭

[cosmic pilot]

Well, no. A max range rocket snipe is trivial because of how accurate pings are.
If you know the exact visual reference for a max shot you can aim for that and set your distance with by moving your player relative to the ping.
You essentially don't have to aim for at that point.

[novel geyser]

Ben

wheres the brief 🔪

[nova pivot]

Ping him

[broken shoal]

no news about update 20. no news about HLL Vietnam. Its over, game is done

[past veldt]

Would you like a clip of using medic to glitch onto rooftops

[worthy charm]

ded even

[lime umbra]

What medic clip u need? I have one from comp game when as a medic I was shooting infantry with at gun while being drunk af, u interested?

But it will cost u, I ask to make hotfix for all the bugs after u18 and u19 faster by 3 or 4 months

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[lime umbra]

Thank god no news about update20

We still haven't recovered from u18 bugs, not gonna mention u19

[finite berry]

As if a longer wait made those bugs go away lol

[lime umbra]

Dude u got me wrong I think

I love the new features straight from other games, like tank doing 1080s gives me Tony Hawk vibes, teleports from Portal, shooting like in Worms, it's all great. I just dont like that sometimes you cannot shot through invisible texture

[finite berry]

It was more of a joke 😄

[fluid pawn]

I mean it sounds fun, however just managed to get one for now. I'll keep you in mind for future ahah

[nova pivot]

Are you dropping it today or tomorrow?

If it is next week I'm going to kidnap @novel geyser

[novel geyser]

:(

[worthy charm]

You can finally feed him something good

so no beans on toast

[nova pivot]

I will give him real food

I'm even doing him a favor

[worthy charm]

You saving his life

[midnight salmon]

i read "teleports from poland" lmao

[glossy echo]

When will get any news

Its almost been a montg

[faint badge]

Hello guys i am a new player eager to play this game, can you please guide me with basics of this game and i also need servers and friends with whom i can enjoy this game i only know english

[fluid pawn]

THIS IS BEANSPHOMY!

because of @worthy charm comment I shall wait until October now

(Year still TBC)

[worthy charm]

Oh noooooooooooooo

They will hunt me down as revenge

[fluid pawn]

You only have yourself to blame Herr

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/the-wild-robot-fink-dreamworks-truth-nuke-true-meme-gif-15944310851626529923

[fluid pawn]

@nova pivot after him

[finite berry]

I'll protect you 🫡

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/floppa-attack-mad-gif-21589399

[tropic light]

@main harness take notes

[main harness]

Hate crime

[cosmic pilot]

He just wants to give you a hug 🤗

[slate canopy]

A very sharp hug

[teal bison]

yo guys what is a good competitive group to join (ideally based in the UK)

[finite berry]

#1343090646168240199

[teal bison]

thanks, that wasnt in my channel list lol

[lost orbit]

anyone else with VOIP issues rn? it just says connecting

[fluid pawn]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKzhnC32M6s <t:1769184000:F> <t:1769184000:R> ||

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/floppa-floppa-friday-gif-26397339

[worthy charm]

Dear diary

but nice only 2 days

[past vortex]

how crazy is the ratio of votes to existing accounts

[lucid tusk]

Beans belong in burritos or the garbage, not on toast

[gentle lintel]

2 waiting

1 is floppa

[fluid pawn]

Ahahah

[dusk bane]

No idea what is happening on the server tonight. No one is talking.

[winter rover]

Damn

Forgot this game existed

Probably because of the lame arse roadmap

I don't mind a Canadian faction.. that is if it came out with an italian map

Give us an Italian faction

[nova pivot]

Fr

[finite berry]

I'm the other one

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-my-man-hd-my-man4k-gif-23532578

[finite berry]

Floppas unite

[winter rover]

https://klipy.com/gifs/army-soldier

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/erm-big-floppa-floppa-love-love-you-gif-21744592

[winter rover]

Not touching this game until the italians are added

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/floppa-cute-gif-25858838

[winter rover]

Or the tank system becomes more realistic

[finite berry]

I'll buy HLL if they add caracals

[nova pivot]

Thank you

Stay away from the discord server too

[winter rover]

no thanks

[winter rover]

thank you for what?

I haven't played this in over a year, how does it affect you

[nova pivot]

You just come in every 3 - 2 weeks and say: I forgot this game existed, add Italians.

In my opinion either you are stupid or you have Alzheimer, I don't mind if you are around if you are going to add something or at least take part in debates not just coming in to say the same nonsense every 3 weeks ❤️

All with respect, I'm giving you my honest opinion

[winter rover]

I haven't mentioned the italians in like a month

[nova pivot]

Congratulations 👏🎉

[winter rover]

womp womp, then ignore me if you have a problem. Not that difficult

[nova pivot]

Naw, this is funnier

Aren't you having fun? Because I am

[winter rover]

whats fun about it?

Breaking the rules?

https://klipy.com/gifs/king-of-the-hill-bobby-3

[nova pivot]

Messing with you

[winter rover]

Calling me stupid is against the rules sir

[past veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/burnt-peanut-side-eye-the-burnt-peanut-gif-6339277251445282356

[winter rover]

but you're spanish so makes sense

basically moroccan

🤣

[nova pivot]

What is wrong with being Moroccan, are you being racist? Racism is forbidden here

[winter rover]

where did race come from?

I was referring to nationality but ok

and you say im the stupid one

[nova pivot]

You are the one that Brought the topic

[winter rover]

oook, well ill end this now because i don't want to break the rules

[nova pivot]

Too late

[worthy charm]

Stop it both or I smite people

[winter rover]

Yes sir!

[nova pivot]

Yeah smite him

[winter rover]

Italian faction when

[nova pivot]

I'll @ you once it arrives don't worry

[winter rover]

No I'll keep checking in every two weeks dw 🙂

https://klipy.com/gifs/ww2-italy

[nova pivot]

Then you wont forget the game exist, so you don't have Alzheimer

[winter rover]

Dw, I will 🙂

[nova pivot]

Okay I already have my doubt solved

We can end the convo

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-go-my-scarab-whatever-go-my-true-scarab-go-my-scarab-morgan-freeman-gif-3091971228562826566

[glossy echo]

@finite berry do you have hell let loose now?

[finite berry]

No.

[glossy echo]

squad 44 works for me now

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/tbh-creature-gif-25772842

[glossy echo]

but i dont have mic working for geforce

[finite berry]

Then fix it (:

[glossy echo]

will do when i can

i actually got a few kills

its cool

but its hll discord so idk if i can say this

[gritty lark]

Lowkey wtf is Smolensk so creepy

[glossy echo]

play brightness 200 and its not scary

too many jumpscares n 100 brightess

[worthy dome]

I just noticed something..

WHYYYYY Do we not have swastika's and proper logos as nazi's?

[novel geyser]

@lucid tusk I took those screenshots on Gmod lmao
map is dod_WN7
the character models is a recently released addon
the uniforms are the canadian green but its a little subtle

[finite berry]

Censorship due to legal issues.

[worthy dome]

I mean, who's gonna charge...

[novel geyser]

pretty much no multiplayer game includes swastikas
no surprise HLL isnt any different in that regard

[worthy dome]

So sad, Its just the little details that make it

[finite berry]

True, but alas it's unlikely that'll change, so yeah, no real point in asking for it

[worthy dome]

True

[worthy charm]

like pacific

[tall kettle]

https://i.imgur.com/oqjthtn.png

[worthy dome]

Just was wondering why

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-go-my-scarab-whatever-go-my-true-scarab-go-my-scarab-morgan-freeman-gif-3091971228562826566

[north adder]

Is there a way to participate in organised battles?

Like everyone has a uses vc and it planned a bit rather than rush the enemy

[nova pivot]

Comp

#1343090646168240199

[cosmic pilot]

steel division 2 😈

[novel geyser]

okay 1

[cosmic pilot]

welp, might as well shoot me now for bringing up other games than hll in messhall

i'll be up against the wall

[cosmic pilot]

even then i don't think they have the funny germany flag, they just have the ss units insignia

[novel geyser]

hardly counts then

[harsh egret]

I'm surprised the hammer and sickle doesn't get the hate symbol treatment like others do. Those people murdered between 40 and 70 million Christians during their era. Nobody cares about that for some reason though.

[main harness]

@fluid pawn go to bed x

[fluid pawn]

Heading off now dw 🫡

[past vortex]

hahaha, you are aweful

[harsh egret]

Why am I awful? History is a long long list of awful facts.

[cosmic pilot]

wait for me

[harsh egret]

Nobody says I'm awful if I say what the Germans did and say it was bad.

[past vortex]

yea, but you seem to have troubles with facts :}

[harsh egret]

Guess you never studied the history of the Soviet Union

Not my problem.

[past vortex]

im not suprised you dont even get what im about :D

[cosmic pilot]

ladies, take it to#ww2-history puhlease

[past vortex]

its also offtopic there

[cosmic pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-no-this-is-the-chum-bucket-bruh-gif-18641279

[harsh egret]

Not even trying to continue. Pretty strange the reactions from some people when you mention any other bad guys in history but the painter.

Anyway, later

[lucid tusk]

I swear i distinctly remember cod WaW having a giant banner hanging from the Brandenburg gate on the map it's featured on

[errant vapor]

Now the exact scale is hard to verify because ofc it is

The soviets kept less records

[novel geyser]

I believe it is an iron cross one
but the german victory song has a moustache man speech in it lol

some mp maps in cod waw I think have the swastika but not sure

[errant vapor]

But what we know for sure is that the Holodomor had 8 million deaths and that the great leap forward resulted in 50 million chinese citizens starving

[lucid tusk]

So all the pictures online have an iron cross but I swear it was region based

[errant vapor]

However the swastika has had the greatest PR campaign in history levied against it to the point where people will stop thinking when they hear “nazi”

And so it is impossible, sadly, to market a game with SS uniforms or units because of this

[covert elbow]

When pacific

[errant vapor]

It’s not fair but its the situation we have

[novel geyser]

the german playermodels do have a swastika I think since they are just mostly recycled models from singleplayer

[gritty lark]

Very few combat uniforms featured swastikas anyway, off the top of my head the only one I can thing of is the Afrika Korps which displayed its insignia very often

[errant vapor]

It’s a shame because I would buy the heck out of an SS unit DLC but there are countries that would prevent the selling of such a game

[covert elbow]

The eagle on both the breast and field caps all have swastikas

[covert elbow]

We already have that in game

[past vortex]

you missed it spectacularly :D

[covert elbow]

They just don’t have the runes

[past vortex]

after horses

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-uma-umamusume-bardock-gold-ship-gif-2992636727790876333

[gritty lark]

History is written by the victors.

[worthy dome]

Wasn't the swastika in the circle the eagle is holding

[past vortex]

but thats what it IS about !

[errant vapor]

We do?

[covert elbow]

Yea. In fact I’m pretty sure we have a few SS uniforms

[errant vapor]

Mb, i meant i prefer feldgrau type uniforms

[covert elbow]

????

[past vortex]

if he doesnt know that he is obviously not about uniforms :D

[covert elbow]

Then what do you mean by an SS uniform???

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/umamusume-uma-musume-el-condor-pasa-shocked-scared-gif-6173655410745550597

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/slushy-noobz-slushynoobz-you-have-alerted-the-horse-hamzahthefantastic-hamzah-gif-10835389906160477866

[gritty lark]

Yeah but soldiers in Europe would almost always wear Steilhelms in combat and camo/winter smocks would cover their gray uniforms (unusual) in North Africa however, soldiers would have it displayed basically 100% of the time

[errant vapor]

A lot of the stuff in HLL is anachronistic to what arms are available at what time in the war but I love me solid color uniforms

[worthy charm]

Guys are you getting baited again?

[past vortex]

lets talk about steilehlms

[worthy charm]

Or Panzershrecks

:}

[covert elbow]

It was still shown though so I don’t get the point. We have both the basic standard uniform in game along with the field cap so they should have the swastikas on them if we can

[covert elbow]

Same

[errant vapor]

I don’t have image perms but on the cover of “The Waffen-SS (4)” on the left is what i’m talking about

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/noperms-gif-27260516

[errant vapor]

Browns, greys, greens look nice and unified

[covert elbow]

Gamer that’s someone from a foreign unit

That’s a Dutch uniform

[errant vapor]

I’m aware but it is still the SS and still a solid color uniform, it was just what tab I had open at the time

[gritty lark]

Fair. I think that it’s so small that no really notices it, but they would notice an SS Honor Guard wearing a Swastika armband, which is why we don’t have anything like that in the game

[errant vapor]

I’ll find a more specific one if you want lol

[worthy dome]

We also don't have the helmets i think

[errant vapor]

Vol 3, guy on the left

Thats german to my knowledge

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/keepmoving-hell-let-loose-takinggermanop-u15-update15-gif-7689767871759833939

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/popcat-memes-cats-cat-meme-gif-12456016883511867068

[gentle lintel]

That’s a good trailer, where’d you find that

[worthy charm]

Im sure wombat still has it

I couldnt ping her tho

[gentle lintel]

In the hidden file

CLASSIFIED

[slate canopy]

You mean [REDACTED]

[worthy charm]

I heard one of the new vehilces will be [REDACTED].

and [REDACTED] won the map vote.

[slate canopy]

No way, [REDACTED] won?!

[gritty lark]

I would buy SS Foreign Legion uniform DLCs that would actually be pretty interesting

[worthy charm]

Ben DMed me and said [REDACTED] won.

Its a fine map indeed

[slate canopy]

Why he no DM me? 🙁

[past vortex]

ben wont tell us the ratio of votes to existing accounts :{

[errant vapor]

Basically any SS foreign legion would be worth just as a curiosity buy

[covert elbow]

Please don’t give them ideas

[worthy charm]

Im sure he is writing a ton with Clown about [REDACTED].

[covert elbow]

We still don’t have quite a bit of uniforms that actually appeared on the maps in game

[worthy charm]

I gotta stop now

[past vortex]

no danger.. unless he mangases to push the idea in an AI model

[covert elbow]

Oh god

[worthy charm]

More paid DLCs

That what the masses want

[river rover]

Yes, it was [REDACTED]. Can't wait.

[errant vapor]

Just like in battlefield every soldier had an STG44, duh.

[past vortex]

and bad maps, dont forget the bad maps

[worthy charm]

There is a difference between bad maps and bad maps tho

[errant vapor]

Its what I want

If its good cosmetics

[past vortex]

they have to be bad both perf-wise AND gameplay-wise ofc

[worthy charm]

Good for T17 and better for you I guess...

[worthy charm]

*on PC

[past vortex]

not even talking about console anymore :}

[worthy charm]

Would we decide that after consoles all maps would be terryble

-# fixed the grammar mistake

[nova pivot]

Nah, [REDACTED] did not win, but [REDACTED] Is being added

Not too sure about [REDACTED] tbf but we'll see

[worthy charm]

wrong gif

[nova pivot]

William are you okay?

[worthy charm]

oopsi doodle

[worthy charm]

I wanted to say only mods allowed to talk about [REDACTED]

Otherwise ben will look for the leaker of [REDACTED]

-# Its Drew

[nova pivot]

You are the leaker willes

You told me about it literally 30 mins ago

And only in exchange for feet pics

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-bush-hide-bye-gif-20522214

[nova pivot]

You are very easy to buy willhelm

[oak current]

he should see a doctor about that

[worthy charm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/462409534401413144/1430134647253373009/YeetBerg-BaseballHit.gif

[oak current]

oi

[worthy charm]

Damned altberg

[oak current]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/462409534401413144/1430147667664699452/YeetBerg-BaseballCatch.gif

save

[worthy charm]

omg he catched

amazing

[nova pivot]

Why there are so many altberg GIFs 😭 😭

[worthy charm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/462409534401413144/1424797525629599897/a89m0r.gif

[oak current]

people make them for me

[nova pivot]

Are they your slaves?

[oak current]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/883599930059522071/1300758223757770803/attachment.gif

[oak current]

nah, more in the gift-sense

[worthy charm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/462409534401413144/1422281284146696304/a735ao.gif

[nova pivot]

Undercover slaves

[worthy charm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/363877549534740480/1420452639702782162/a7340d.gif

[river rover]

Ben is going to be very upset that we're spilling the beans on his announcement of [REDACTED].

[nova pivot]

@worthy charm please stop with the gif or I will have to tell polarbear to remove the gif privileges

[worthy charm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/462409534401413144/1431200877628100730/BasketBergCascade.gif

[nova pivot]

Beans mentioned 😱

[slate canopy]

👀 Siiiir

Put the gifs down. 🔫

[river rover]

If he keeps it up polar will definitely put him on mute or ban him.

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-ltg-mods-fossilize-this-user-mods-gif-14547219816455503839

[worthy charm]

Hell let Beans loose?

Is that what [REDACTED] meant the whole time?

[nova pivot]

Horse

[worthy charm]

I will stop, I ran out of Altberg gifs anyway :}

[nova pivot]

Is horse

I know it is horse

[river rover]

Great we have feet of snow coming this weekend. 🥶

[oak current]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/462409534401413144/1438936042852847758/BumBergGif.gif

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-smell-wwe-gif-15916777

[worthy charm]

dat as

[nova pivot]

Feet?

[river rover]

Yes, feet. 🙁

[oak current]

not mine, gotta talk to dinkle about that one

[river rover]

many a foot

[worthy charm]

Damn.... I will take it anyway

[oak current]

^^

[onyx heron]

DAY 74

GIVE ME A DATE FOR HELL LET LOOSE VIETNAM ❤️

[raw halo]

https://tenor.com/view/m60-m60machine-gun-m60machine-gun-gif-vietnam-vietnam-m60-gif-23142539

[slate canopy]

2026. 😎 👉 👉

[tacit mountain]

[tacit mountain]

How can we add our clan ds to #1343090646168240199 ?

[slate canopy]

Read #division-rules and make sure there isn't a post for it already.

[dapper birch]

oh my

[patent sand]

Waiting for Vietnam

[winter rover]

waiting for italy

[tulip flume]

does the artillery replenish refill the SPAs?

[wintry thistle]

Same

[molten wraith]

had 101 kills in first marine division and got banned for an hour for "abuse" 🤣

guess im too good

[past vortex]

maybe shoot enemies next time

[molten wraith]

If anyone need an arty squad lmk, I’m the arty king

[hazy owl]

no, you need to drive it back to HQ

SPA is too OP it's not even allowed in the tournaments at the moment.
They need to reduce the splash or double the reloading time or half the ammunition or a little of all of those things..

[hazy owl]

This is probably not the most kills but you're far from it hehe
メ AlCapone84
376 kills with 150MM HOWITZER [sFH 18]

[deft shale]

seen 400+ in a comp match before

[midnight salmon]

pics or didnt happen

[slender raft]

is there anyone who is looking for a high skilled and reliable engineer?

[azure ether]

Horse when?

[azure ether]

Can you make me a horse?

[past veldt]

400 kills with artillery? It's just the Remagen games

Maybe some rogue Foy game

[worthy charm]

Ben the lord of the edge

The teaser

[fluid pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/teaser-discord-xd-sj-waiting-gif-19503918

[lofty anvil]

Can the commander menu get fixed in the next update? Absolute piss take how things get broken each update

[faint glacier]

Did the update for server improvements drop (the one with larger data streams)
ECL will be starting soon for comp teams so curious if theres a plan to drop it

[sterile pagoda]

Even though Metz probably won, PLEASE @fluid pawn add Seelow eventually. I have waited years for Seelow to arrive, I can wait a bit longer

[crisp wedge]

With the western front battles inching closer to germany it would be cool to see the battle of aachen at least before vietnam releases

[silk igloo]

[fluid pawn]

You know it

[sterile pagoda]

I kinda wish Aachen was in the vote instead of Metz

[fluid pawn]

Hoping to get an update soon. It's currently with the GSPs on testing I believe

[silk igloo]

can you do me a favor? make a newspaper into a roll and bonk your head with it for putting a 24h notice in the back of my head

[fluid pawn]

Done

[silk igloo]

i'll trust your word for it. i am content

[sterile pagoda]

Add the Battle of Waterloo to the game

[fluid pawn]

Not sure that would work in a WW2 game 😅

[sterile pagoda]

Don’t knock it till you try it Ben

[fluid pawn]

Like the idea though 🐴

[novel geyser]

Quit edging and add seelow already smh

Also is the vote for what map comes first or will the other be binned 🥹

[fluid pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/wrestling-edge-excited-gif-5184681

[finite berry]

Probably the former

[sterile pagoda]

God I hope so

[finite berry]

Anything else would be a PR disaster

[sterile pagoda]

Eh, at least we got another Eastern Front map this year. So I’ll be eating good

Eastern Front in the best front

[novel geyser]

@fluid pawn ^ ?

[covert elbow]

Still working on that remagen refresh suggestion btw Ben

It’s… spiraled a bit ngl

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-to-do-list-long-list-gif-5580267

[glossy echo]

can i see video early

[nova pivot]

@fluid pawn

[novel geyser]

Funny how the thread commending in the suggestions still doesn't work properly lmao

[fluid pawn]

Get it uploaded ASAP just as the team are hard at work on the map 🙂

[novel geyser]

have the devs seen my recent suggestion #1463624541548056749 👉 👈

[cosmic pilot]

News of news ahh news

[covert elbow]

Oh crap

I’ll try and get on it then

Kinda tough as one of the books I ordered isn’t arriving until February and that one’s kinda important because it has a bunch of photos of the area

Ngl I really hope the team decides to expand the map as there was a bit of fighting in Remagen proper and could make a fun urban map

[cosmic pilot]

The american side is honestly really good and it should be expanded in that direction of anything

[covert elbow]

Could even expand Erpel and have the map be unique with the Germans starting in Erpel and the U.S. in remagen then have the goal of the map be going towards the bridge for a way to cross tanks

[cosmic pilot]

I do think it's worth keeping the bridge, but to move it back towards the German hq

[covert elbow]

Like I said I’ve been getting a ton of ideas the more I research. Remagen is nothing but missed opportunities

[cosmic pilot]

Make the tunnel part of the map in a limited way

[covert elbow]

If I was in charge I’d make the bridge be the far right of the map but have the map be unique where the Germans and US spawn next to eachother across the river on the west and east banks respectively

Seeing the “town of remagen” IRL and then in HLL is pretty pathetic and should be expanded

[novel geyser]

I just think they need to make it so the bridge is the only capture point in the middle sector

germans still get quite an advantage with the cliff but atleast it wont be as one sided as having a point be on one end of the river

[cosmic pilot]

BS
The data actually supports that unlike other maps, remagen has an even distribution what sector the game ends at. Most other maps are much more likely to end as a 5-0

[covert elbow]

That’s probably because the game ends on the 3rd point almost every time lmao

[novel geyser]

that doesnt really matter

because when one team gets the middle point for basically free they are far more likely to win

[covert elbow]

Side note from my research on remagen btw, holy crap it’s just an asset flip

[novel geyser]

its not so much it always gets stuck on the middle point and more one team gets a huge advantage depending on the RNG of where the points spawn

[covert elbow]

Basically everything aside from the bridge is something from a prior map and doesn’t make sense for the area

[hazy owl]

I cannot be excited about new maps since any of the most recent ones are barely making it to TOP10 played maps on most servers..
And then there is a decent new map Smolensk but it suffers from optimization issues and even the last remaster of Stalingrad is not completed(the huge invisible objects with collision around the top of the buildings and I bet many more issues.
Then we have rushed half-baked SPAs...
I hope this will be addressed as well there.

[covert elbow]

Really hope this gets addressed and a bunch of custom made houses and buildings replace the current ones

There’s a ton of photos from the time that should give a lot of good detail i

[novel geyser]

I remember when there was french posters around the map, it was either that or soviet ones from the stalingrad factory slapped in the map lol

[covert elbow]

Soviet ones

French ones are still there

[novel geyser]

could have been both tbh

OH
lmao

[covert elbow]

Tbh I think French maps are on like every US map because they kept reusing the same destroyed house asset with the posters

There’s a reason why BM was able to release new maps and it definitely wasn’t due to their immaculate quality control

[novel geyser]

lol

their maps definitely are some of the best looking despite the asset reuse

[covert elbow]

It’s definitely strange

Probably because the terrain work is so good

Altough I think the game would do nothing but benefit from getting unique assets per map to really immerse you into the environment

[cosmic pilot]

If one team got a huge advantage you'd expect more 5-0s.

[covert elbow]

It’s the opposite for remagen though

One team does have a huge advantage and that ends in more 3-2’s

[novel geyser]

yeah thats still not relevant

doesnt really matter if its even or not

[cosmic pilot]

Not what the data supports.
5-0, 4-1, and 3-2 are more or less equally likely for both sides.

[novel geyser]

the simple fact is that one team gets the middle point for free and only lose it if they dont know how to deal with airheads

[covert elbow]

Yea. It’s the fact that one team is almost guaranteed to win based on which bank the point spawns on

[novel geyser]

both sides can get the point for free

[covert elbow]

It’s objectively bad game design

[novel geyser]

unless you're refering to the cliff then okay yeah its not as big of an advantage

I dont think this data is relevant much

[cosmic pilot]

Your SMDM typically has the most proportion of wins are 5-0, basically none at 4-1, and some at 3-2

[cosmic pilot]

Fair warning, I'm being contrarian, however, remagen is one of the more balanced maps with respect to distribution of wins at different strong points.

[novel geyser]

any data on who wins depending on the point placement
im confident it would be one team wins more often than not when the point is on their side of the bridge

thats entirely the issue with remagen to me
its that the middle strong point can be on either side of the bridge when really it should only ever be on the bridge itself

[cosmic pilot]

It's not perfectly equal. But it breaks the trend of your average hedgerow map ending the majority of time in a 5-0

What is the argument that says maps which are more likely to end in 5-0 are more balanced

[covert elbow]

Sure, but the data isn’t showing the actual “fun” of the map. It may show equal distribution of wins but that’s because most of those end in a 30 minute stalemate of one side struggling to cross the bridge

[cosmic pilot]

That would mean the majority of wins are 3-2, which they aren't

[covert elbow]

At least on the hedgerow maps you can maneuver around the point. On remagen you only have one area of attack

[covert elbow]

Then I’m lost

[cosmic pilot]

Basically 2/3s of the time the bridge is crossed but 1/2 it does not result in a 5-0

[past veldt]

Remagen doesn't end at 3-2 because one team captures the bridge and then can drop a free airhead your average pub team isn't ever going to see

[novel geyser]

if the bridge was the only middle point the map atleast properly plays into its gimmick of having a giant bridge in the middle and most of the mid point fighting to control the bridge actually has a stronger impact

because if the point is not the bridge one team just needs to hold a strong defense to stop the enemy from crossing and have people on airhead duty and thats that.
Its not really about the data of when a match is won its more that the map plays terribly

[silk igloo]

Just need more braincells, like letting the enemy cross the bridge so you can cross it easier yourself. Or any tricks you got with airheads.

[covert elbow]

Okay, but that’s missing the original point

I think we all need to back up real quick

[worthy charm]

Guys wtf is going on here

This discussion looks way to serious

[novel geyser]

remagen

[silk igloo]

Even if it means letting the enemy capture 4 out of 5 just so your recon can cross the bridge in peace. You can always take the points back

[covert elbow]

The point being stated is that Remagen is just an objectively unfair and unbalanced map due to the RNG win condition of being lucky and getting the middle point on your teams side of the bank. Win percentages and other stuff isn’t a factor.

The point is that the middle objective should always be the bridge as to not have the aforementioned element anymore

[past veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1320450047002939428/1337907623307251823/attachment.gif

[covert elbow]

Are we on the same page?

[novel geyser]

anyways remagen would totally be better if we had boats and horses and buildable bridges and airheads had you parachute in and medic could drag bodies and had an automatic rifle

[worthy charm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/536396441208487956/1013140100202377307/degenerated_fuck.gif

xD

[covert elbow]

I’m kinda nervous they will just add bridges and call it a day

Like that’s not going to help the issue and will make the map unfun tbh

If they add pontoon bridges that just upsets the map even more and causes to much spreading out of forces

[past veldt]

'make the map unfun'

Remagen currently has zero players on HLL PC servers

[covert elbow]

Also if they do make the bridge a permanent objective it should be the end of the bridge near the tunnel and not the bridge itself as that’s what secured it IRL and makes it so the US actually has to secure the bridgehead and not the bridge

[past veldt]

That's bait

[novel geyser]

if there was a mode thats there to better represent the battle accurately that would be fine, but for warfare probably should just be the bridge, more even that way

[worthy charm]

I just played the map like a week ago

was kinda fun

[silk igloo]

Make it 33 germans vs 67 americans then. Attackers ought to have 3-1 advantage anyway

[covert elbow]

As long as it’s the entire bridge instead of the small circle I’m down

[oak current]

its a map refresh - some non-bridge areas are gonna get touched upon, maybe some asset-reworks so its less performance-drainy for some machines.
Bridge might get some extra scaffolding, but doubt there will be much change overall on how Remagen plays.

[novel geyser]

if they manage to make it so strong points arent just circles this would be good

[past veldt]

You're better than this

[worthy charm]

I was in 1 of 3 paks

very fun

[past veldt]

Ahh

Generating untold negative fun for the US players

[novel geyser]

the map is fun when you're 500m away on the cliff as the germans shooting americans below

[covert elbow]

I still don’t get blackmatters decision to even add the map. Yes it’s a super cool event during the war but anyone with a brain takes a look at this area for a minute and realizes all the issues that arises

[novel geyser]

literally the best match I ever played on remagen was as a tank gunner on the cliff lmao

[honest pecan]

wtf no image perms 😥

[worthy charm]

3 AT guns, 1 heavy, 1 medium, 1 recon and nobody on the bridge.

[covert elbow]

Especially because HLL has no restrictions on guns, vehicles, artillery, etc

[worthy charm]

Absolute Remagen

[novel geyser]

throwing caca at the wall type development

[covert elbow]

Pretty much

He’ll most of the stuff didn’t even stick lmao

[novel geyser]

or as the BM lead said "Building the plane as it flies" which is a hilarious analogy

[covert elbow]

But I don’t want to get into another talk about that. Just gonna finish that remagen refresh suggestion and send it the devs way as soon as I can once I get that book for photos

[worthy charm]

I would first build the factory, then the plane and then the carrier.

[covert elbow]

Been reading Ken Hechlers book and that’s been a great source

[worthy charm]

and cry about the looks of it the whole time

[cosmic pilot]

How does the data prove that.

[honest pecan]

Remagen is fun

[covert elbow]

The data wouldn’t prove that? It’s basic observation and experiance

[covert elbow]

Yes, but horribly unbalanced due to HLL’s gameplay

It simply doesn’t fit the game

They had to put in an fictional undercarriage just to give the US the option to advance

[nova pivot]

Just open the tunnel that will 100% solve the problems

[cosmic pilot]

I'm trying to undermine your assumptions.
If you consider something like SMDM as balanced then why does it have an uneven distribution of wins by sector.

[worthy charm]

Like arty?

[honest pecan]

It's unconventional + situations where a team knows exactly what to do to not lose the bridge are rare

[worthy charm]

or medics?

[oak current]

did you build them atop the hill, so the enemy couldnt retaliate?

[nova pivot]

400 meters of nothing in a semi straight line

[worthy charm]

or SPAs?

[worthy charm]

oh no I died a lot of times

[covert elbow]

I’m not talking about SMDM. I’m talking about remagen

[oak current]

well guess you could have taken a tiger up there and just fired over the US half of the map

[worthy charm]

recon got over the bridge somehow

[oak current]

2+ repair stations behind you - dont even need to move the tank anymore

[cosmic pilot]

And remagen is somewhat unique that winning in any sector is more or less evenly likely.

[covert elbow]

That is true. Most of HLL’s players are to incompetent to hold an objective now a days but let me tell you when the game came out that was hell for a along time

[cosmic pilot]

Your average hedgerow map is much more likely to end in a catastrophic loss.

[covert elbow]

Except for the middle point. That’s entirely RNG

[honest pecan]

obviously its good to have an unconventional map in a game where all the other maps are more-or-less continuous open fields

[cosmic pilot]

Winning by holding only the center point only happens 1/3 of the time.

The point I'm trying to make is that it's much easier to defend your hq and 2nd row SP on ramagen for both sides

Most hedgerow maps the 2nd point is basically indefensible.

[worthy charm]

I like me a good hedgerow round

indeed

[cosmic pilot]

Your brain on hedgerow maps

[worthy charm]

tung tung tung sahurr

[silk igloo]

remagen would be far better without the sectors and everything that goes along with it. first commander to reach enemy HQ, and they can only spawn in their own HQ... that would be fun

[cosmic pilot]

What I'm trying to point out is that people's impressions of balance are maybe out of alignment with data that could be reasonably called balanced

[honest pecan]

I think you just hate fun

[cosmic pilot]

That's comp's domain.

[worthy charm]

Sir this is HLL

[honest pecan]

Which is one of the most fun games

But you must learn to enjoy it

[worthy charm]

Suuuure

[honest pecan]

Filtered...

[runic gorge]

i hope metz didnt win

[novel geyser]

I think thats more of a team issue rather than a map issue

[past vortex]

luv me some good rehmagen

[novel geyser]

possibly the worst map in the game

[worthy charm]

You will need a lot of Hopium

[worthy charm]

ewww

[silk igloo]

it's a map issue. if you picture every map as "areas that someone has to see" then all the dense maps are worse, because you simply do not have the eyes to look at every corner, and it only takes one small gap for the enemy to spawn in and steamroll you

well, it's a spawn mechanic issue

[novel geyser]

thats why a team has to spread out and communicate effectively

[runic gorge]

bro im just lowkey sick of us vs ger maps

[novel geyser]

real

[runic gorge]

unless we get new guns

[silk igloo]

but if you spread your team of 50 to patrol 100 gaps, the enemy just pushes through you one by one

[novel geyser]

eh

normandy maps honestly play the best

they are still open

[worthy charm]

Depends

[silk igloo]

the more dense the map is, the less you can reliably hold. knowing how far you can go without exposing defense depends on map knowledge, and i hate the concept of map knowledge. i'd rather have procedurally generated maps every game

[worthy charm]

Many servers run carentan which isnt open for except like 2 places

[heady escarp]

If we don't get Seelow Highs I will lose it

[past veldt]

Twice as many as Remagen

[heady escarp]

I really don't know how Metz can compite against Seelow in any regard

[past veldt]

Maybe Remagen just needs a second bridge

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mr-krabs-nonsense-gif-9409388923672221731

[past veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1287908850829361212/1428849069760970752/attachment.gif

[worthy charm]

Thats art

Worth more than the Mona Lisa

[past veldt]

French peasants who robbed the Louvre should have come for my favourited GIFs rather than the jewels

[cosmic pilot]

Would you call a map where 80% of wins occur in a 5-0 but each faction wins 50% of the time balanced?

[fringe hollow]

Now we're talking about Foxhole gameplay, not game development.

[worthy charm]

Warden planes are so weird

But Devman still biased towards warden

[fringe hollow]

I haven't seen it. I tried getting into the game but alas...

Now what nonsense are we spouting now?

[novel geyser]

I dont think that data alone is enough to determine how good a map is, a lot has to be taken into account

I do think the point placement on those maps often can favour one team over another, its just more that the mode and way strong points work are not great

[keen drum]

i hate when this game decides randomly to reset all my settings to default

it makes me wanna uninstall it so badly

[honest pecan]

gut feeling imho

''Remagen is a good map because it makes a lot of people seethe''

[past veldt]

You can create a copy of the game user settings.ini file from App Data / Local / HLL and if it ever resets you have a quick way of fixing it

[honest pecan]

reinstalling the game doesn't break my settings but every time theres an update the settings reset breh

[keen drum]

nice tip , thank you

[keen drum]

everytime i Alt f4 because a chinese guy with a nice gaming chair kills me for the 8th time in row from 800miles a way the game resets my settings .

[past veldt]

That is your issue to be fair. This game will reset the settings any time it crashes

[keen drum]

i don't know any game that does that stupid thing but ok

[honest pecan]

Epic Games Launcher's issue

[past veldt]

Nah, it's steam as well

[keen drum]

never happened on any other epic game i own

[past veldt]

HLL is a special game

Built on a code base of prayers and dreams

Held together only with the tears of T17 Devs

[keen drum]

yeah it punishes you for abandoning your team , i get it

and a 45 tons tank can get flipped by a small obstacle in the ground , i also get it , you have to drive only on main roads .

everything is designed perfectly

[past veldt]

Best not to consider the game too deeply

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1320450047002939428/1463929163504423034/attachment.gif

[midnight salmon]

garant post u16 is always the right picture due to hitreg issues lmao

[midnight salmon]

i dont think t17 devs cry at night. they dream of new maps and faster tank movement

[past vortex]

i dont think they think about hll at all

[potent carbon]

What is a good rp server?

[viscid trout]

anyone wanna tank with me?

[deft shale]

Idk how to send a picture here

[deft shale]

Was PHL

[deft shale]

Sent DM

[sturdy quarry]

people round these parts like horses n that

here is grand theft horse

https://store.epicgames.com/p/rustler-grand-theft-horse-21a7ca

free if claimed today

[cosmic pilot]

Mods, do not delete this

Someone finally giving the people what they want

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/tempting-colin-bridgerton-bridgerton-gif-19974253

[cosmic pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-horse-react-thanos-meme-gif-26303208

[analog apex]

Hi guys, which map won?

No time to watch the video right now, will check it tomorrow.

[worthy charm]

I dont know, im sowy

I will ping you tomorrow and tell you

[analog apex]

Aaaah, I didn't notice the video didn't start 2h ago, but it's tomorrow.

My bad, I am on the phone right now, missed it

[cosmic pilot]

Unforgivable

[fringe bramble]

hi

why i bought and install the add on and i cant see them in the game

Before I reset my PC they worked fine

[silk igloo]

step off your phone and type like a normal person

youngsters these days

[lucid tusk]

Operation Sea Lion

[glossy echo]

https://www.hellletloose.com/blog/dev-brief-212-map-vote-reveal-roadmap-breakdown

[worthy charm]

sus

[glossy echo]

look at what i found

[worthy charm]

I already now my IP

[glossy echo]

oh ok

then ita no leak ):

[worthy charm]

😒

. ban lockai No trolling

[glossy echo]

sorry i delet

[glossy echo]

this one will be legit tho

its on the youtube premiere

trust me

im not trolling @worthy charm

[winter rover]

https://klipy.com/gifs/reggiane-re2005-sagittario

Italy when

[glossy echo]

idk

[worthy charm]

Planes are in foxhole now :}

I flew them 3 times now

-# and I crashed 3 times

[winter rover]

I don't care about foxhole

If I wanted to fly, that's the last game I would play

[worthy charm]

You dont care about HLL either

xD

[winter rover]

I have IL2 and DCS thank you very much

DCS WW2 warbirds to be more precise, not the modern garbage

[winter rover]

Nah, I care about HLL

Just waiting for 🇮🇹

[glossy echo]

What happened with on the square and U.S artillery march songs

they were in the menu before are tou gone now.

they*

[upbeat onyx]

Can I play Hell Let Loose together with my friend who plays on PS5 while I’m playing on PC? Is this something currently on your roadmap? @gentle lintel

[lucid tusk]

No and no

[slate canopy]

There hasn't been true crossplay and don't think they ever plan for it.

PC is Steam, Epic games, and PC gamepass.
Console is PlayStation and Xbox.
That's the "crossplay" we have.

[worthy charm]

Epic Drew ping

[long relic]

Do the levels and class progression save if you leave/r kicked due to high ping

[onyx heron]

DAY 75

GIVE ME A DATE FOR HELL LET LOOSE VIETNAM ❤️

[worthy charm]

You always get your XP

Only miss end of game boni and commendations

[glossy echo]

Should I send messages in honeypot

[river rover]

Hell Let Loose Vietnam Release Date [REDACTED]

[strange belfry]

Lol

[onyx heron]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-gif-5889395026730118957

[worthy charm]

I mean [REDACTED] is a good timing

at least that you got to admit.

[slate canopy]

If you wanna leave the discord, sure!

[glossy echo]

I don't wanna leave but I'll try

[slate canopy]

(I am serious btw 😬 )

[glossy echo]

Too late

Ok I'm back

Nothing happens to me but my friend got kicked

[nova pivot]

Yes

[glossy echo]

Is it good

[slate canopy]

Did you send it or did they send it?.

[glossy echo]

Yeah

[nova pivot]

You didn't answer the question lol

[silk igloo]

carentan is the worst map in the game.

at least in any of the thick woods you can see and affect some 100m away from you

[gentle lintel]

Skill issue

[silk igloo]

skill in wasting everyone's time

[gentle lintel]

Ok that’s a bit aggressive

https://tenor.com/view/miss-jay-jay-tyra-antm-americas-next-top-model-gif-4040226487718382132

[errant vapor]

Spent $11 on dlc for this game award

[silk igloo]

It's always my experience in carentan. Infantry trying their best to sneak around, and we counter them, and nothing moves anywhere for 90 minutes

I'd rather play in Remagen

At least I dont have to work for nothing going anywhere there

[thin lotus]

Easy shooting + fields = 🥱

[slate canopy]

That answers nothing. Did you OR your friend send the message?

[glossy echo]

Non3

[slate canopy]

????

[glossy echo]

None did

Luckily

[slate canopy]

So no one posted in honey pot?

[nova pivot]

He is just wasting your time

Ban him

[glossy echo]

Pls no

I didn't mean to talk with moderator

[hazy owl]

In equally good teams that's pretty much what you get. Tug of war.

I wish night maps were actually dark reducing visibility to 100m or so offering completely different approaches of playing a map. Open fields are no problem in dark. Flares can be used to lighten it up..

[silk igloo]

shoot yourself out with just a rifle, why dont you

in KURSK

[silk igloo]

No, it's just a dozen or more hallways that can only be affected if you have a troop in that hallway. If you dont, someone gets through and screws your team up. It's a stupid whackamole game

[slate canopy]

Share in #hll-videos

[silk igloo]

On open maps you're dependent on more than just meatgrinding, and ratty business doesnt work.

[hazy owl]

Carentan is pretty open map apart from from Town centre but even there you can fight around the church or in the gardens. Ever played comp match?

[silk igloo]

Long time ago. I think I recall comp breaking open maps even then, but that's beside the point. Which, I guess, is just how poorly everything fits together in HLL

[hazy owl]

That's not anything new. The game is not perfect. Existing mechanics are being overlooked in the name of new content to attract sales. I'm really curious about the talk tomorrow about the 2026 roadmap.
Anyways it's probably better than CoD Slops 7

[slate canopy]

Please keep ads out of here. Feel free to share vids/clips in #hll-videos

[gritty lark]

Right sorry

[slate canopy]

All good. That video area will be a great place to share videos and get people interested in your channel! 🙂

[turbid horizon]

i 2nd this. i like night but its way too bright

[sly moth]

This but in hell let loose Vietnam

[errant vapor]

Real

We need actual darkness instead of just a slightly darker daytime

[past vortex]

best we can do is blur or fog

[main harness]

Fog would be better than the 300m render distance that we have now.

[analog apex]

Youngsters? 😄 I am on a business trip, hence I am checking discord just very occasionally and on the phone only!

I hate doing anything on the phone btw., I always prefer the PC.

[stoic garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-funny-dance-gif-20676462

[fluid pawn]

"Ouch I've walked into a tree"
"Ouch another tree"
"Ouch ano...."

[fluid pawn]

Very true. PC > phone version

[dapper oar]

Hi, Very well put, thanks for bringing this up! And unlike you were told about *"Your issue" * it's not yours but **huge bug in the voice tech stack of this game. **And it hurts all Xbox users bad. Did you ever get any insights regarding this? This is a sole issue what held me back playing HLL years ago, while voice with PS5 players was so inconsistent or should I say consistent, usually it didn't work, at least if joined mid game voice never worked. When another round starts, then it might suddenly start working. I now decided try to come back, and find your message here: I was hoping this issue would've been sorted out after all these years. But apparently the issue only doesn't still exist_but actually has gotten even worse? 😢 Is that right? We also have a nice community with hundreds of players that we would like to play together. Most have PS5 and they are okay, but some have Xbox, and can't join the fun properly unfortunately. Would be have fun to have community matches etc. But unfortunately that is just totally impossible, if you can't talk. That's it, there is just no way around it. I guess we are just forced to drop this and play other games, if the devs aren't even acknowledge the issue with their voice tech stack? At least I didn't find any info, please correct me if I'm wrong.

[chrome tusk]

[nova pivot]

That's me

[chrome tusk]

[marsh chasm]

Hey there yeah, I feel your frustration on that one 😂😅 and you’re not wrong at all.

Just so you know, I’m still actively working with them to try and pin this down. So far they’ve had me unplug all non-essential USB devices and even do a full factory reset, but unfortunately that didn’t fix anything.

After that they wanted me to change some router settings, but my internet provider doesn’t let me access those myself, so that kind of stalled things on that front. I did suggest testing with a wired connection though, and they agreed that using an ethernet cable is actually a good way to see if this is network related or not. I’ve ordered one and I’m just waiting for it to turn up in the mail so I can test it properly.

I’ll definitely update once I’ve tried that. But yeah based on everything so far, this still very much feels like a deeper voice system issue.

[chrome tusk]

Got a lot of accomplishments I like that

[fluid pawn]

Great to hear that you're in communication with the support team Fallsy

@dapper oar I advised Fallsy to talk directly with the support team if you're having issues, and would advise you to do the same as this will help action fixes much quicker than I would be able to as CM 🙂 https://discordapp.com/channels/316459644476456962/363877549534740480/1461742622153379862

[marsh chasm]

They are actually pretty good to talk to lol. 😂

[fluid pawn]

They are great people

[past veldt]

Real question though Ben, when will you fix all of the specific issues I personally have with the game 😠

[dapper oar]

Thanks! But unfortunately this issue doesn't apeear to be on our end. I play multiplayer games with comms almost every day, been playing for whole time this game existed on consoles. Other games coms work fine, and believe me there have been many! Also ones with Playstation and PC-players. The latest example of AMAZING crossplay Voice chat experience is ARC Raiders. But here, Vivox is just bugged, there is nothing we can do about it, but provide input. But while the problem is like Elephant in the corner I don' t think there are not much info to help here further. My question is: Has anyone in support team played this themselves using Xbox, while others have Playstation? Because if not, I highly recommend that. In just one go will probably reproduce the issue. It happens already when start and join anywhere mid game -> You can see on UI that ppl are talking, you just can't hear them. And @marsh chasm I'm wired unfortunately it's probably not going to help you either. 😢

[marsh chasm]

Ooof 😅 that’s not good to hear.

[fluid pawn]

I can't fix my own PC's issues let alone yours mate I'm just the funny marketing guy

[fluid pawn]

Appreciate this Gimble. All I can do at this point is pass this directly onto the team as they continue their investigations. I can reassure you that the team play across all platforms though

[cosmic pilot]

I ain't reading all that

[dapper oar]

Ok, one more detail: The issue is not reproducible if Team goes to same lobby, and start the game together. It will probably work that way. To reproduce the issue -> First Playstation players go to some game and setup a Squad there, then after that Xbox player join that particular server from serverr list on same side. Then join the Squad where PS players are -> Silence, can only see voice chat icons blinking. 🤐

[broken shoal]

End of january and we have no news about Vietnam

[azure ether]

Horse is no longer a suggestion, the people need horse, and you must listen to the people

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-horse-react-thanos-meme-gif-26303208

Dont horse react me

[azure ether]

How many horse reacts to get horse?

[worthy charm]

:{

[worthy charm]

One Trillion

[azure ether]

Be realistic

Fr tho

[worthy charm]

It doenst matter then, because you will never get horses

[azure ether]

Bet

[past veldt]

How many horse reacts required to fix precision strikes?

*fix precision strikes includes adding horses

[pine ember]

The people also need subfactions

[cosmic pilot]

I'm okay with the p strike being inconsistent

[past veldt]

No, it's totally busted

German P strike comes in from the wrong direction and Soviet P strike will just sometimes split into three and hit a perfect triangle around where you aimed it

It makes playing commander harder for new players for no reason, as they can't legislate for these random issues

Like bombing runs starting before the rectangle you place on the map by about 20m

How is a new player to commander expected to know this 🙃

Don't get me started with a half track bug I found the other week which is so game breaking I wouldn't use it in a competitive game

[cosmic pilot]

How is anyone expected to know this 👀

[cosmic pilot]

Spill the beans

[past veldt]

Lots and lots of preparation

[cedar ore]

Hyped for the dev brief

[past veldt]

Yknow how if you put a half track in an enemy locked sector it's not longer spawnable

Imagine if it was still spawnable 🙃

[cosmic pilot]

Hmm, now I'm imagining how you accomplish that.
On account of the other week I drove a HF into locked territory in preparation for a recapture that never happened.

So visibly from sitting inside it it looked locked

[past veldt]

It's surprisingly easy

Can use it for a team wide spawn in enemy HQs

[cosmic pilot]

For legal reasons you can leave me guessing

[past veldt]

But yeah, I won't say how it works and I won't report it to devs

I did use it on a pub server last week for funsies

[cosmic pilot]

Only a matter of time before it gets abused in comp then lmao

[oak current]

next goal, try to get it up on the hidden branch near graveyard, for maximum evilness

[past veldt]

Idk if anyone else knows it outside of WTH, and very few in that team knows how it works.

We all agreed it would receive a retrospective ban and lead to a game forfeit if used

[past veldt]

Actually true. Idk how the spawn mechanics work for half tracks. Maybe they can be used mid air

[oak current]

..can drive it into the ships on omaha

[past veldt]

Maybe I can wedge one between two trees

10m in the air. Finally, paratroopers in the game

[cosmic pilot]

At the very least, the HF checks that some minimum area around it is level and unblocked for spawning to work

Like, if you drive it onto a glider wing I presume it would not work

[past veldt]

I may try some shenanigans in a locked server

I've got a couple ideas now

[cosmic pilot]

Do you agree with me that the maps are actually too small for vehicular warfare.

400m of deployable depth is basically nothing.

[past veldt]

Yeah, I think it's as small as it can reasonably be

The depth definitely adds to the predictably of the game, as you're just squeezing a lot in

Cap sectors being 400x400m means you're cramming a lot into a small area, and when you start adding in a couple tanks it becomes quite restrictive

[cosmic pilot]

For Infantry it's enough.
For dealing with recon it's extremely annoying.

Personally I think recon should get it's deep OP privelages revoked.

That or garrisons in locked territory should be immune to dismantlement.

[past veldt]

Eh. Recon is just annoying but in pubs or events they can mostly just be ignored tbh

Like, recon runs around and dismantles some garrisons which you rebuild behind them

But they rarely generate any meaningful pressure

Unironically one of the best uses of recon is to actually do reconnaissance, and find the tanks and garrisons without being found themselves

If your tanks can position themselves to beat enemy tanks quickly, because the recon team has done the leg work in finding them then you're almost certainly going to dominate the tank game

[cosmic pilot]

Yeah, there's always the risk in pubs you get caught flat footed and they precap successfully.

Precapping is to me the strategic ideal, but I hate when recon does it.

[past veldt]

It's important to relieve the pressure from you

When a precap turns into a steam roll it becomes boring

[cosmic pilot]

The goal of precapping is to steamroll 🤨

[past veldt]

In a pub game, that's boring

[cosmic pilot]

If you do it with recon, yes.

[past veldt]

I like to win games but I don't enjoy a 20 minute win or game which suddenly ends because the other team didn't prepare

[cosmic pilot]

Regular infantry doesn't get an op until the sector flip so I find it significantly more exhilarating

[past veldt]

I played redzone a lot as commander and inf, so I guess I'm used to being in locked zones without an OP

[cosmic pilot]

Why BM ever removed the cooldown period before a cap I'll never understand

[past veldt]

Yeah, I never played with it but it certainly would fix a lot of issues in public servers

Anything to make the game a little easier to run would be welcome. Like removing nodes and just giving a flat +50 or something

[worthy charm]

Why BM ever [insert literally anything] I'll never understand

[oak current]

Would have helped Skirmish massively, so it gets at least played once a month.

A few dashes of other changes and that mode would have seen more approval/popularity.

[novel geyser]

But what about that hardcore rts inspired meta game™ that makes hll so... """unique"""

[patent crater]

Yo I play on a potato i7-3770, Rx 570 8gb through epic games. Anybody know how I can get a smooth 60fps experience that doesn't look crap and plus I could activate the "use all cores" setting for this game as it's too stuttery

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/what-gif-1177376989323896638

[patent crater]

[past veldt]

No, your CPU is way too weak for 60fps

[cosmic pilot]

Video forthcoming when I find the motivation.

[patent crater]

Thanks man

[gusty venture]

Alright yall, back again to see if HLL is worth downloading again. Please no biase, just a no crap assessment of how it's been running lately.

[past veldt]

It doesn't play differently to a year ago

So if you didn't enjoy it then, you won't now

[gusty venture]

Alright. Is it at least playable? I tried to play when they dropped U18 and I genuinely couldn't load into a game

Did the tanks get fixed?

[past veldt]

Depends what you consider as broken I guess?

Like we got some mechanical changes and hotfixes but the tanks are still tanks

[mellow knoll]

To an extent. But they also added Assault Tanks as SPAs which is beyond stupid.

Tanks really could do with something more than a patch up lol

[past veldt]

Probably ever unreliable as they increased the speed to be more than the engine can handle... So Stuart driving is probably still quite busted

[carmine crater]

do you think they will ever just stop supporting hell let loose?

[dense dust]

No, they have a road map for 2026 and they have said that development of Hll will still happen

[carmine crater]

sick, thats what i like to hear

I do think the game needs a bit of an upgrade. maybe even a sequel? I'm not interested in Vietnam i just want ww2

[dense dust]

I mean. HLL is WW2, so

[worthy charm]

Hll 1,5

Soon with more teleporting

Damn now I sound like Chum

[lucid tusk]

You was Chum the whole time

[hazy owl]

Skirmish starts with two sets of node I think.
The issue is that the map is still too large and there is still a lot of running and prep involved so I agree some other means of transportation or cutting the map in half would help a lot as well as prebuilt spawns like in Offensive mode.
Skirmish was specially designed to help with seeding servers but it failed.
Since communities can enforce special seeding rules Skirmish has nothing to offer.
I think they didn't want to create TDM like mode to keep the spirit of HLL... then they drop SPA

[thin lotus]

HUGE mod
GIGANTIC, even

Teleports behind you (in WW2)

[nova pivot]

Gargantuan one could say

[worthy charm]

Titanic even

[lucid tusk]

Really big

[cosmic pilot]

Smol 🤏

[past veldt]

It's just cold, it's normally an average sized mod

[cosmic pilot]

Skirmish was not specially design for seeding.

Skirmish is a tragedy of the players not knowing what they really want and the devs trying to give the players what they asked for.

Damn I played myself

[oak current]

Skirmish was meant as a "New Player" mode / for player who searched a more casual "jump in and shoot some people for 30 minutes" setting.
But yes, smaller maps would have helped, especially if you want to offer (new) players an easier, more action set mode.
Smaller map, no worries about ressources, some pre-built garrisons at the start close to the Hardcap-Square.

later, after some more input, they also hinted at it being helpful for seeding, which it wasnt - since Skirmish was/is just "Warfare Light".

thing is...I wouldnt mind if they plonk down an even smaller-set map for skirmish in the experimental branch.

[hazy owl]

Based on the community sentiment feedback from our previous round of Skirmish PTEs on El-Alamein & Driel for the ‘Phased’ & ‘Majority’ modes, combined with the feedback we had received from the Foy & Kharkov ‘Seeding’ mode PTE’s, we have settled on refining the core gameplay loop first for the aforementioned ‘Seeding’ mode before branching out into other modes.

‘Seeding’ has also been rebranded as ‘Control', the decision behind this was to rebrand it into a title that is more fitting for the type of gameplay loop involved.

For 14.8 we will be releasing to you the first ‘Control’ maps under the ‘Skirmish' umbrella: El-Alamein, and Driel, with the potential to explore and refine alternative modes and mechanics in the future.
Source: Steam Community post

And let's be honest here. They were not opened to refine anything. That post is 2 years old and I have not seen any major adjustments.