mess-hall

[worthy charm]

It works on elise

[silk igloo]

instead we'll have 5 trucks spawned by the commander, all stuck in the same infamous ditch in the SE corner of carentan

[worthy charm]

Did I got smited?

[thin lotus]

the insta death for touching a moving vehicle no matter the speed is an incredibly amateur implementation

[finite berry]

True, that's another thing that's just goofy in my eyes

There should be a minimum speed of a vehicle before a collision kills you

[silk igloo]

It's still my top 5 or 6

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/apored-my-honest-reaction-gif-14986202719113645660

[thin lotus]

hit from the front, not just anywhere on the vehicle.
Again, just amateurs. They've had years to correct, and they've done nothing

[silk igloo]

I bet it's just easier to kill a player than deal with physics, clipping or anything else

[thin lotus]

of course, if it's a matter of effort, they'll take the easy way

[lucid tusk]

Definitely in the upper echelon for me, I just find most of the normandy maps (st mere and st come du mont in particular) very boring now

[silk igloo]

i mean that they always had so much to do besides nitpicking over the bottom of the todo list

[worthy charm]

How often do you guys even drive someone over? I probably killed more allies with it than enemys.

[thin lotus]

i'd agrue that team roadkills shouldnt even be a thing anyway

[lucid tusk]

Other than reenacting Simpsons hit and run in a greyhound to take out 3 OPs one time the only people I've ever hit were idiots standing in front of transports at the start of the round

[worthy charm]

Recon tanks have the mobility and acceleration to dodge, if I come flanking with a medium and some dude walks onto the street I aint stoping for him.

[silk igloo]

I'd have the old st mere in top 3 or 4. The clutter doesnt help anyone. I'd rather replace transport trucks with halftracks as-is and make every map into islands of clutter that you've options to land into, so to speak

[pine wharf]

https://medal.tv/pl/games/hell-let-loose/clips/lKmTGpfJDWuhSlYjq?invite=cr-MSwxZHIsMzEyMDU0MDc3&v=14 invisible crap on bridge made me dive

[lucid tusk]

Kinda like elsenborn? Thats definitely in a top 5 for me with how each objective feels like it's own small map. Ditto on halftracks, been screaming it for years

[silk igloo]

Elsenborn is nice, but too cluttered regarding the spawn mechanics. It'd be much better if you didnt have to look over your shoulder all the time, just like any map would be

would need a new mode at this point, without the sectors

[thin lotus]

[elsenborn's] "never before seen gameplay in HLL"

😐

[lucid tusk]

Let's see what conquest is (we already know what it is)

[finite berry]

had to chuckle lol

[lucid tusk]

Maybe it'll be different but I have sneaking suspicions

[thin lotus]

HLLs tendency to add "unique" things

Unique
Baffling, even

[silk igloo]

the weather does change things, people just dont have the patience to use it, just like people (me included) were too impatient for the teammate requirements to build OPs and garris

and because you can spam attack at the enemy they'd be worse off for waiting for weather

[thin lotus]

now with fog!

oh cool, fog!

[lucid tusk]

What conquest (probably) is: multiple capture points, certain points generate munitions (fuel, manpower, etc...), tickets, plays like BF conquest.

What I'd like: offensive but with dynamic objectives vs just capture points

[finite berry]

Astonishing

[echo karma]

Horses and fog?

[worthy charm]

Horses are confirmed 🐴

[echo karma]

What I'd like to see is not copying battflield for once

[worthy charm]

Praise the horse

[echo karma]

50v50 search is doa bro

[past vortex]

its the year of the horse after all

(not quite yet i guess)

feb 17 actually

[echo karma]

I want pak40 on a horse in Ardennes

88mil on that horseeeee

Rocket horse

[lucid tusk]

88mm in general would be nice...

[wintry thistle]

You already got it

[echo karma]

Totally unbalanced. Will never see

[lucid tusk]

Since the beginning I've called for asymmetry, just to have my wishes shattered

[echo karma]

We got wierd rocket spg before 88

[cosmic pilot]

Speak truth to power ✊

[lucid tusk]

You're thinking of the sturmtiger, the brummbar had a not stupid gun

[echo karma]

My guess is we get trailer. They scrap it and all we get is 2 maps

[lucid tusk]

Also the brummbar is dumb in game because it's used completely different to how it actually was, it wasn't artillery, it was "see that strong point 50m away? I dont want to anymore"

[echo karma]

Maybe Vientnam June. Have to look up anniversary

[cosmic pilot]

Muph is not a real person

[finite berry]

I want another epic trailer like for Update 15 🔥

[echo karma]

True, bot confirmed

[lucid tusk]

Most people here probably aren't, let's be real. It's a squad 44 psy-op

[echo karma]

Lmao nooo

Here come the mods duhhh da dooo

[wintry thistle]

That’s every SPA in the game

[lucid tusk]

Im aware, I'm still angry

[echo karma]

How hard is it make an mortar attachment for vehicles?? Can braindead no

[lucid tusk]

"Can't have open top, that might lead to actual interesting gameplay possibilities"

[thin lotus]

Imagine if Squad 44's playerbase had 5 times the amount of current players.
10 total players!

[echo karma]

Likely dies in 1 shot. Mobile but can only be pulled by trucks/ tanks

[echo karma]

We're talking about number 2 and 3 here. This genre is niche af

[lucid tusk]

It's okay, we still have that other one to look forward to! The one that became an alt history extraction shooter that hasn't had any noticeable announcement in years (they took the money and ran)

[echo karma]

Tbf they can't even model houses so what can you expect really

[past veldt]

The sandstorm on Tobruk is great.

Makes the redzone teleporting mechanics even easier to pull off, because people can't see the supply drops you're spamming behind them 🙃

[silk igloo]

Its fine as it is, the operational area limit is what should be removed. Because you cant bloody use it half the time because of an invisible wall

[echo karma]

Yeah I didn't like it at 1st tbh. Like level lotion from bf but it's okay now

[lucid tusk]

Range needs reducing too

[echo karma]

Yeah the real issue is you cant have spa cuz invisible walls and a house will stop a tank shell

[finite berry]

Which one?

[echo karma]

Hides in church cuz arty lol soo realistic

[silk igloo]

500m or 600m, I dont care, but with the original 500m the mils made more sense. They increased the range, matched the mils to that, and now it's too convoluted to my small brain

[echo karma]

I don't know why they changed mills too. It's a universal system for all tanks/ arty. Oh we have an magic map?

[lucid tusk]

I cant even remember the name, it started out as a hard-core ww2 shooter, then after a few alpha tests they announced it wad becoming an alt history title, I just remember @analog apex having the first post in the discord saying "IM OUT", was pretty funny and based

[silk igloo]

you mean what BM is making or what

[lucid tusk]

No different devs

[finite berry]

Okay, never heard of it lol

[thin lotus]

Was actually looking up that a couple days ago. Had to recall what it was even called

[echo karma]

I know the game. Tanked if I remeber

[thin lotus]

HLLs weather implementation hasn't been much more than further advocating the proponent of "teleports behind you" gameplay

[echo karma]

Idek if a ticket system would work tbh.

[past veldt]

Ticket systems suck

[echo karma]

The games would be hella short

[past veldt]

Why yes, I would like the optimal play style at the end of the game to be to not actually play

[lucid tusk]

Im not crazy right? The alpha gameplay was North Africa and one of the weapons was the volksturmgewehr?

[echo karma]

Invalidate medics again

[past veldt]

Ticket systems at their core are just a terrible solution to trying to come up with a win condition

[finite berry]

cries in pointless medic

[wintry thistle]

That’s why every good WW2 shooter has one

[past veldt]

Nah, like in squad if you're actually dead dead at 50 tickets, you should just not spawn

[echo karma]

It works in battlefield but touche

[finite berry]

Ticket systems are the most basic and at the same time smartest way to simulate manpower

[past veldt]

Just because every game does it, doesn't make it a good idea

[echo karma]

Battflield 100v100 too

[coarse pilot]

Hey i just bought hll on xbox series s, can I play with randoms or is it rlly recommendet to play with Friends? I have no one to play with

[finite berry]

True, but it is a good idea

[finite berry]

#console-looking-for-unit

[wintry thistle]

It’s a good idea though
Simulates the concept of a attack or defense losing its power

[past veldt]

You're playing a game and the optimal solution is to not spawn for the rest of the game

Yeah, fun

[echo karma]

Official or community server. Gl

[wintry thistle]

When it gets to that point it’s over anyway

[echo karma]

So search n destroy. Gotcha

[wintry thistle]

The point of the ticket system is to value your life while going for the best K/D

Or making the most of you’re life

Without tickets your life has no value

[echo karma]

Mostly and not keep the game going on forever

[past veldt]

I've played enough Squad where both teams are down to <50 tickets and the 'elite brains' are screaming to not spawn in

Like yeah, I want to play the game less

[thin lotus]

yes, Resolve was the title

[echo karma]

Hll the game ends and its draw cuz we fight over mid point for an hour duhhrrrr

[wintry thistle]

Well their dumb
You can’t just not spawn in

[past veldt]

To win, I should not play. Fuuuuuun

[thin lotus]

backwards game design

[wintry thistle]

Not to mention that’s a problem for what like

[past veldt]

Nobody wins in HLL because you've played HLL

[sharp needle]

Why is the game leaving game pass?

[wintry thistle]

less than 10 minutes

[echo karma]

It would shorten the casual games drastically. And if your bad, you just lose the game on the spot

[finite berry]

That's why medics are actually important there :D

[past veldt]

You miss the point as usual

[finite berry]

Nah, you're just wrong

[echo karma]

Gp sees its not profitable

[past veldt]

When you're actually dead dead. Like exploded dead. If you're down on tickets and having a bad game, just don't spawn in. It helps your team

[sharp needle]

Damn

[echo karma]

They didn't buy the studio so gonezo

[wintry thistle]

The issue with FPS games is people don’t value their lives
In a ticket based system, you must
It especially makes sense in a realistic shooter, where the average soldier should care for his life

[sharp needle]

Last time for me here then

[past veldt]

Imagine being a new player and your team actually wants you to not spawn because you only hurt the team by playing

[echo karma]

Ticket system would fix at spam. Gary backdoor etc

[lucid tusk]

Ah yeah that was! What a turd pile lmao

[past veldt]

It is a genuinely terrible game mechanic

[thin lotus]

"its supposed to suck!" gameplay.
Tragic,
Backwards even

[wintry thistle]

Get better at the game then

Learn to not die a lot

[echo karma]

Nodes are irrelevant in this game. Manpower is bassicly tickets not used

[lucid tusk]

Just dont get shot, it's not hard

[thin lotus]

you see this kind of crap design in ALOT of ReALISTIC TACTICAL HARDCHORE shoters

[past veldt]

The worst of the suggestions. You're probably an awful HLL player, but I don't want you to not play

[wintry thistle]

I don’t even play HLL

[thin lotus]

😆

[past veldt]

Elise alt account

[wintry thistle]

I’m just saying your making it a bigger deal than it is

[echo karma]

Banned

[wintry thistle]

Nobody goes around saying don’t respawn

[past veldt]

I'm just saying tickets are a terrible game mechanic

[past veldt]

Have you played squad?

[echo karma]

Nobody plays medic too

[wintry thistle]

Yes

[past veldt]

Every game ends that way 🙃

[wintry thistle]

Every is a stretch

[past veldt]

Also an anti-fun game mechanic

'LAY DOWN NOT PLAYING SO I CAN REVIVE YOU MAYBE IN A COUPLE MINUTES IN THE SPOT YOU JUST DIED IN'

[echo karma]

S44 us dead af tbh. Great concepts but abysmally dead

[wintry thistle]

Most squad matches end up with one team losing by 100 or so tickets

[echo karma]

Not casual enough for hll playerbase

[thin lotus]

Squad's "vehicle X costs Y# of tickets" is especially stupid in that regard too

[past veldt]

Surely nothing can go wrong by being revived in a spot you just got shot on 🙃

[wintry thistle]

The average player is going to respawn

Which they should

[thin lotus]

the average player is a dolt

[wintry thistle]

Cause not respawning isn’t going to fix the 100 tickets your behind by

[echo karma]

Makes sense tho. You waste a tank there should be repercussions

[wintry thistle]

Medics are great fun

How tf do you not like medics

[thin lotus]

the repurcussion is "we dont have that tank anymore"

[echo karma]

You die in a tank in s44 your wayyyy outta position

[wintry thistle]

Tad bit unrealistic

But good gameplay wise

[echo karma]

Reforger is a ticket system too. Works great

[wintry thistle]

I don’t see much logic in ticket hate
When all good WW2 shooters have them

[echo karma]

They have supplies similar to hll. And 2 unlimited supply points

[thin lotus]

medics are trash especially in HLL because it's relying on the notion of "two wrongs make a right" to justify its existence

[echo karma]

Medic is the worse class ever. I never ask for one on sl

[wintry thistle]

In squad/44 you can get revived by a medic a decent bit of the time

[echo karma]

I'll just teleport on my OP

[wintry thistle]

Not a death sentence to revive someone

[finite berry]

You act as if that happened every match

[echo karma]

Cuz it makes sense there. Tickets

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-incredible-shrimp-truth-shrimp-shrimp-truth-shrimp-of-truth-gif-1862074793508121424

[past veldt]

Most squad games, yeah. Squad44, less so

[cosmic pilot]

Tickets are a lose condition, not a win condition

[echo karma]

They can be balanced to length of game. Reforger games are over an hour. Sometimes 2

[wintry thistle]

50 50 split

I’d agree more on the former though

[cosmic pilot]

RTS kinda has a similar problem in that win conditions are misnamed lose conditions

[echo karma]

Tickets just make you value your life. Something odd in a video game albiet

[cosmic pilot]

Well, they don't.
Not at least until you're about to run out

And again, more of a lose condition

[finite berry]

You are greatly mistaken then.

[echo karma]

If you play correctly then they do. Even in battlefield

There time constraints. Manpower is a ticket system for offensive

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[cosmic pilot]

A good mechanic will be impactful and important regardless of the level of play

[past veldt]

God please don't invalidate my 65 hours on a video game I didn't really like

[echo karma]

So why manpower in offensive?

[cosmic pilot]

But it's more about play phycology than other aspects when I say players won't care until they are about to run out

[echo karma]

Come on now. I wanna here this one sided argument

[cosmic pilot]

I don't understand the question

[thin lotus]

literally every game of Squad that doesn't abruptly end because a particular vehicle blew up and spent the remaining little tickets.
It was damn near always "DONT REVIVE WE ARE LOW ON TICKETS"

[echo karma]

Manpower is a ticket system 101

[finite berry]

Ironically, yes. If you got dropped behind a fence you were looking over before getting shot, yes, it is safe. If the enemy that shot you moved on (he most likely did), it is also safe. If you want, throw a smoke for good measure. Your body is not getting actively monitored by the enemy, rare exceptions prove the rule

[silk igloo]

Just now I had a moment where, if a medic had waited 5 seconds as I told him to wait, there would've been 3 of us instead of just me

could've kept the train going

[echo karma]

Nodes are trash in general imo anyways. You don't care if tank dies cuz you have 2k fuel

[finite berry]

Average c*mp player opinion

[cosmic pilot]

Yeah, and as such it follows the rules I've described tickets as possessing.
Manpower in offensive only matters if you have less than your attrition rate during an overtime cap.

[finite berry]

I don't, just saying you are wrong.

[wintry thistle]

The opinions do seem very comp pilled

[cosmic pilot]

It only matters then the amount is about to run out

[echo karma]

Clearly that's the only left who cares

Just t17 haters and comp in here

[fallen ravine]

Can’t forget people who have never played

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/that-could-have-been-me-the-simpsons-gif-27385345

[echo karma]

Oh casuals ye forgot

Probably there profit margin tbh

[fallen ravine]

Never played the game at all I mean

[past veldt]

How can I be wrong when it's what I actually experienced 🧠

[past veldt]

It's okay, I know I'm better than you 😘

[cosmic pilot]

Tell us more about the value of your lived experience

[echo karma]

He's saying your opinion doesn't matter cuz your a casual

[silk igloo]

why not just have tickets per player and hope that replacements come in

[echo karma]

Why not just make manpower do something and fuel too

[past veldt]

It's better to ragebait than be ragebaited

Wake up with a positive affirmation every day: "at least I woke up again"

[silk igloo]

i dont mean hll, just games with tickets like squad

[echo karma]

Or delete them. There irrelevant in skirmish

[thin lotus]

"it's not about K/D" players when they realize they have a set # of lives
LMAOOOOO

🤯

[echo karma]

Rts in a fps game. Wtf is this

[past veldt]

Reddit would lose their mind if they realised someone on their team had to actually get kills

[thin lotus]

garbage nodes in HLL
"we RTS now" -Black Matter

[cosmic pilot]

As a social experiment, I want to run a server where if you die you get kicked for 2 hours

[past veldt]

WhO PuT tHiS cOd MeCHaniC iN mY GAME

[finite berry]

Because it's not the rule 😉

[cosmic pilot]

Even though I can 100 percent predict the game would devolve to recon camping the hq

[finite berry]

Thank God, yes

[past veldt]

Sure, but in the 40 odd games I played or whatever, it was absolutely the case in the majority of games

[finite berry]

I'm calling bs :)

[past veldt]

I remember seeing some friends play a 1 life event in HLL. I've never seen something look as tedious as that

[fallen ravine]

🪤

[finite berry]

Both in regards to the rule and that you supposedly played 40 games with tickets

[silk igloo]

assuming that it'd keep filled, yeah. it'd be quite different to see your talkative buddy get blown up, knowing that he's gone

[echo karma]

Games are 1 hr. You played 65. So what your telling me is you rage quit hll?

[past veldt]

What are you yapping about

[thin lotus]

"it's not about K/D" players when they realize that it's because there are top fraggers on their team that allow them to think this way.

Turns out the only reason you're granted to sit on a point uncontested is because there are other significantly better players that create that sort of room.

[cosmic pilot]

Like I said, he isn't real

[echo karma]

Ironically it is otherwise you wouldn't cap any objectives

[echo karma]

Math in hll server. My bad

[past veldt]

Explain your maths, because I think you've missed all the context

How does my 65 hours in Squad mean I've rage quit from HLL

[cosmic pilot]

You're British, don't you say "maths"
Which bothers the hell out of btw

[silk igloo]

if those killers are officers and supports, maybe

[echo karma]

I forgot bruv me bad

[slate canopy]

Clearly means everything. 😉

[cosmic pilot]

Ah, no. SLs don't have time to shoot much 😅

[past veldt]

In pub games? What else are you doing?

[silk igloo]

i feel like im always begging for my squad to stay with me because i cant get the 11th guy myself, i need help 😭

[cosmic pilot]

Sneaking around trying not to get spotted placing OPs.
And yelling at people what to do

[past veldt]

This is just like in the Reddit thread the other day that claimed commanders are too busy to build garrisons

[thin lotus]

I was saying that there's this shared arrogance among bad FPS players who think that capping on an uncontested objective is somehow more righteous than the top fragger who's managing to keep the enemy at bay, which enables the capper to just sit there.

The top fragger will get no thanks from the wet noodle player who thinks "playing the objective" means sitting in a corner unseen in a sector

[past veldt]

Everyone in pub games is flanking. If a couple SLs stopped being sneaky and just put their OP in a useful spot and shot people, they'd probably get a 100% win rate

[cosmic pilot]

If you have time to shoot 50 guys as an SL that means you weren't running around the map very much

[silk igloo]

eh, it's a worm with 50 legs, one leg does thing, second leg does another

[past veldt]

Which is ironic considering I play the sneaky SL or commander role in comp and mixed events

[cosmic pilot]

Well, that would sorta work on defence, but attacking you have to close with the enemy so what's your point

[echo karma]

S44 says what

[cosmic pilot]

Killing 50 defenders without moving is indecisive

[past veldt]

Willes how much will it cost to have muph banned

[echo karma]

VPN said what

[cosmic pilot]

Give up comp

[thin lotus]

it's more like the worm's rear end thinking that it's better than the worm head

[echo karma]

You just pay to off ppl you don't like huh?

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-endgame-hulk-bruce-banner-i-see-this-as-an-absolute-win-gif-17006739

[past veldt]

It's the only 'fun' way to play HLL

I like my teams to play with cohesion and communication

[cosmic pilot]

You don't have fun playing comp

[finite berry]

So you'll finally be free from HLL. 🫂 everyone wins

[past veldt]

I'm one of the few who enjoys mixed events

[wintry thistle]

Did him dirty

[echo karma]

This comp let loose baby. Get in line. Line up at the hq2 squids

[past veldt]

Comp HLL unironically is close to what a lot of Reddit dwellers want from HLL, but they can never get from pub games

[echo urchin]

hi

[echo karma]

Truth tho

[past veldt]

And then they'll have a little cry about how comp sucks and ruined the game

[echo karma]

But who cares about reddit

Comp is just pubs with better communication

And demon head clickers

[past veldt]

It plays quite differently

[echo karma]

I've seen. Played over mid cap mostly with obvious rules

[worthy charm]

Please refrain from mentioning the dark place

We dont do that here

[finite berry]

Comp?

[gilded spade]

What bothers you about comp @finite berry ?

[finite berry]

I already explained that

[gilded spade]

Did you?

[finite berry]

I did

[gilded spade]

Refresh my memory pls

[finite berry]

Shocking, I even explained it to you on the 23rd of December 2025

Just a week ago

[gilded spade]

I see, so still an ignorance opinion about it

[finite berry]

If you say so lol

Comp players give off some vegan vibes to me. Most of them are fine and just doing what they like which is totally fine, and then there is a loud minority that thinks they are better than everyone else

[slate canopy]

I think that's with any game

[gilded spade]

Well well such accusations elise

[slate canopy]

Overwatch, Siege, Apex, whatever

[finite berry]

Naturally, doesn't change the impression I'm getting, tho

[past veldt]

If it's any consolation, I also think I'm better than most comp players

(legally, this is a joke)

[thin scarab]

Naah comp is Bad we all know that

[gilded spade]

Let me tell you something darling.
I have a problem with ignorance people who talk like they know something and spread their opinion about everything everywhere.
You are litteraly everywhere, in every feedback post being a person with a ‘rational’ opinion. It is pathetic

You can know the rules of the game but knowing how comp is, is different from casual games you can’t know once you played a decent comp game

[finite berry]

ok

I never said anything about comp matches, tho

[fallen ravine]

Roasted

[finite berry]

I only voiced what expression I'm getting from some of the comp players

[fallen ravine]

Is something burning in here

[gilded spade]

And also you can’t shut up. Always something to say which is also something people can’t stand about you

[thin scarab]

The nepalm

[finite berry]

Yes, the strawman Mattie erected

[finite berry]

"people can't stand about you"
You mean yourself, Critical and that other random from earlier who pinged me specifically to tell me how he doesn't care about me?

[harsh egret]

Here bro you dropped this 👑

[fallen ravine]

I think he speaks for most people who have an experience to back up their claims about the game

[harsh egret]

Not having a game and having no frame of reference should disqualify any opinion you have about the game. Period.

Just go hang with a community you are actually in.

[finite berry]

Keep ignoring that I never said anything about comp matches lol

[wintry thistle]

Comp players crawling out of the woodwork

[finite berry]

I'm already doing that, but thanks. :)

[gilded spade]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-not-bad-put-crown-on-im-the-king-happy-smile-gif-15074162

[finite berry]

true lol

[wintry thistle]

There’s no update that has ruined your precious comp balance
Go back to your cave

[harsh egret]

I'm not talking about comp either. I'm talking about Elise inserting his opinion about changing the game every time I look at this chat. Dude doesn't even have the game.

[fallen ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/burger-king-gif-18996323

[finite berry]

It's funny because I didn't even speak negatively about comp matches, I only said "a few comp players give off plenty arrogant vibes to me" and multiple comp players immediately spawn to tell me how wrong I am and that I have no idea what I'm talking about; kinda proves my point, I'd say?

[thin scarab]

Hello kitty Skin for Tanks When Devs?

[finite berry]

Oh, is that so? What changes do I propose, specifically?

[harsh egret]

And the last couple updates 100% put the death nails in this game. It has been a mass exodus. I haven't even played it for weeks and will be uninstalling to make room as soon as I'm ready to install a new game.

[finite berry]

Player count looks surprisingly good for a "dying" game

[thin scarab]

To counter this, Console still held the playerbase. Still allot of Full servers

[harsh egret]

Me and all the good people I know and played with have literally moved on to other stuff. Nobody is interested anymore.

Enjoy the Christmas noob numbers while they last I guess though.

[finite berry]

That will lead to a decrease of match quality (lack of good SLs), but not to a dying game

[gilded spade]

Well I’m defintely not an arrogant person but if you don’t get what I said earlier than you don’t see what is bothering us.
There are definitely ego players but you also have casual who are like that

[thin scarab]

You have this in every Game.

[thin lotus]

double digit % player loss month over month for a majority of year 2025 is "dying"

That's just Steam. There is no way this game is doing any better on consoles

[harsh egret]

Consoles are probably half the steam numbers on our best days. lol

[past veldt]

Pop off 👑

[harsh egret]

People are actually insane if they think this game is anything close to healthy.

This game was botched. Just accept it. We knew it years ago but we waited patiently as long as we could. No more. Vietnam? No sale.

[past veldt]

To be fair, the only reason Elise is in here is because they're the only person in the squad44 discord

[novel geyser]

I like noobs, I like people getting into the game and keeping it populated :)

I like not being hostile to new players and driving them away

[keen drum]

Hi

[thin scarab]

2k Players atm

[lucid tusk]

But then how are we supposed to kill the game? Im joking btw

[thin lotus]

Elise wouldn't play HLL if it was gifted to him, just to maintain his persona here

[harsh egret]

Where can you see real console playercounts at

[slate canopy]

I'd totally gift it lol

[thin scarab]

Just count the servers lol

[thin lotus]

As far as I know, console numbers aren't posted anywhere, for any game

[keen drum]

Hell Let Loose: Vietnam , $70?

[slate canopy]

Welcome

[thin lotus]

likely

[novel geyser]

I mean despite not owning the game I feel like Elise says a lot about the game that is somewhat true

[thin scarab]

I just looked in the Game and counted the Full servers. Not that Hard to get Console Numbers

[finite berry]

True, but it feels it's more extreme with the comp scene. Like I said, it feels like vegans; 99% are fine and cool, and then there is the loud, obnoxious 1% minority that ruins the entirety for everyone.

[harsh egret]

My point is they are currently giving a false positive about player counts. They have been in decline all year. You could ski down that slope. The holidays will pass and most of them will move on pretty quickly while the game continues to lose more than it gains.

I have no issue with new players.

[finite berry]

Okay, and when will it be completely "dead"? 2026? 2027? 2028?

[thin lotus]

General inferences about surface level "videgame shooter" topics isn't much.

One needs to actually play HLL to truly understand just how tedious it is.

[finite berry]

Outrageous. Way too many other people hate this trick.

[harsh egret]

Oh, well I'm at work at the moment anyway.

[past veldt]

Most comp players are absolute 🔔 🔚 s, tbf

[novel geyser]

I dont think player counts is anything to worry about until most servers are empty lol
there are games with significantly less players that still have healthy server populations

[thin lotus]

I really dont care, honestly

[slate canopy]

I like the creativity lmao

[lucid tusk]

Red orchestra 2 still gets a handful of full servers, sure they're all Russian but they're there

[thin scarab]

All good. But its Safe to say Console playerbase is around 2K

[finite berry]

Like I already said earlier, I probably wouldn't enjoy it because I'm so invested in Squad 44 and like how that game plays. I'd constantly compare HLL to the experience I'm getting there, and that would lead to me constantly thinking "why is everyone immediately giving up, why are tanks so sh it, why are there so many full- and semi-autos". I simply wouldn't enjoy HLL.
Now, why would I play a game which I know I wouldn't enjoy?

[novel geyser]

theres some non-russian ones
RS2 is like sub 500 players or so each day and the servers are 100% playable

[thin lotus]

To actually have a grounded perspective on what you chat about daily

[novel geyser]

anything above 1000 players is extremely healthy for this type of game

[lucid tusk]

It's also the middle of an work day in NA, where a good chunk of the player base probably is

[thin scarab]

EU is big aswell. I think its somewhat Even split

[thin lotus]

There's a joke about console players playing midday everyday, but I'll save it for another time

[finite berry]

Nah, mattie and Critical and Deadset and ansferr say that I'm only spreading bs and lies (they can't even say what is supposedly oh so wrong that I'm saying)

[finite berry]

In what way?

[thin scarab]

Whats the joke? Now i want to know 🤣

[finite berry]

Exactly ^^

[past veldt]

A lot of them are absolute degenerates

[lucid tusk]

Oh no doubt it's big, but east coast NA is a massive market on its own, but honestly I couldn't tell you

[past veldt]

I just find your fascination with HLL and comp players so baffling considering you don't even play the game

[keen drum]

[past veldt]

It's not that I think you're spreading lies, I just don't think you're qualified to discuss a game you've literally never played

[finite berry]

That's the thing, Chum, every thing I say here is based on stuff that I know without having played the game. That's why I don't comment on map performance because I'd have to actually play the game to experience them.
Also, imagine I got the game now and played for two hours. My opinions most likely would stay the same, would you respect them more just because I now played HLL for 120 minutes? Or would you find other excuses why my opinions are supposedly wrong?

[finite berry]

THIS!

[finite berry]

Degenerates in what way?

[slate canopy]

Ignore it. It's usually not like this.

[keen glen]

what is the context

[past veldt]

There are a lot of edgelords and black 🐔 gif posters

[thin scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

[keen glen]

hll with 1000players?

[keen drum]

I like this chat

[finite berry]

And I find it fascinating how some of you guys repeatedly state how irrelevant and wrong me and my opinions are, yet you are completely unable or unwilling to prove me wrong just once; not to mention that I live free of rent in your heads

[thin lotus]

😐

[finite berry]

Oh, okay lol

[harsh egret]

I never made that claim. I only said it is obnoxious that you are constantly here sharing your opinion when you never played the game. I have never played squad or BF6 yet. I would never think to join their Discords and start talking about what I would like to see added, nor try debating people in there that have hundreds of hours invested. That's not only insane, but it is just weird man.

[finite berry]

No answer also is an answer

[past veldt]

As rent free as comp players in yours

[keen glen]

hey @grok summarize all the stuff here

[thin lotus]

😐

[past veldt]

🫂

[slate canopy]

Hug it out!

[finite berry]

Only when they bring up their "omg comp keeps this game alive" takes, but touche, I'll give you that 😄

[fallen ravine]

When do we get pacific

[finite berry]

tomorrow

[keen glen]

we getting vietnam

[past veldt]

I just brought up my dislike of medics in video games and you mentioned comp

[analog copper]

Bro, just play your game and enjoy it. I play Squad 44, Squad, and Hell Let Loose, and comparisons are stupid.

[past veldt]

.counter

[tall kettle]

https://i.imgur.com/oqjthtn.png

[past veldt]

Thnx Polar

[fallen ravine]

I think pacific with horses would be cool

[finite berry]

Yes, and the opinions I'm sharing here are based on information/experience I have either gathered when playing Squad 44 or when talking to people here about HLL or when watching HLL content on YouTube.

Also, you still haven't answered my question for what changes to HLL I supposedly advocate. Like, what are the concrete changes that I want made to HLL? I'm curious. The only one I can think of from the top of my head is a ticket system.

[keen glen]

horses are bs

[finite berry]

I play and enjoy it. Can't I stay here as well and talk about HLL and enjoy the casual banter?

[fallen ravine]

Respect the herd

[keen drum]

I love horses 🐎

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/you-have-alerted-the-horse-horse-gt-when-the-gif-24722142

[finite berry]

Also, keep in mind that I usually argue what would make sense to get added from the perspective of an HLL player

[thin lotus]

youve done everything but play the game

the embodiment of backwards game design

[keen glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1390196401983717398/1403518802494230528/minions-minion.gif

[fallen ravine]

Atleast he has something in common with half of the player base in the past year

[harsh egret]

Bro I am not going to search and sift through the miles and miles of your history here going on and on like you have any amount of experience in this game. Debating and being a contrarian with people who have invested hundreds and hundreds of hours and dollars supporting servers wanting to see this game reach its potential. Anyone with above a room temperature IQ that hangs here knows exactly what we are talking about and why it is obnoxious.

[gilded spade]

Most of the times it is the person who you are that gets people to trust and appreciate an opinion

[harsh egret]

Work to do

[finite berry]

Okay, so you have no example and no proof, thank you

"there are so many things"
can't name just one

[past veldt]

You like medics

That's one 🫂

[harsh egret]

People can search it themselves. I'm working. No more time to waste on someone who doesn't belong here.

[thin lotus]

"Medics are fine"
-clueless

[harsh egret]

You're here everyday bro I aint scrolling thru that mess.

[slate canopy]

How about we drop it 😄

Thanks

[keen glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246641790304653403/1291936993353138218/caption.gif

[finite berry]

And they will find practically nothing of what you accused me of ^^

[past veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/talk-lizard-ironic-gif-25847938

[slate canopy]

But we also don't need the constant argument between two people.

[keen glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1166053998260920440/1230826633699655680/cat_in_pot_verysad.gif

[harsh egret]

Just one quick example search. Pretty sure talk for someone who has never played the game. I can't post a pic but happy to DM you.

[harsh egret]

"Artillery was not fine the way it was, but the SPA was not the way to go." - Never played the game once.
#mess-hall message

More arty changes/debate
#mess-hall message

Just a full on proposal of changes here lol
#mess-hall message

Again, this dude has never played Hell Let Loose.

We can keep going but why bother. The proof is in the pudding and I'm busy.

[gilded spade]

Unbelievable innit

[harsh egret]

It really is and I can't be gaslit by people trying to tell me water aint wet.

[analog apex]

you mean Resolve

[thin lotus]

So it's resolved, I will not play it!

[analog apex]

yep 😄

[lucid tusk]

Yeah Chum found it, what a waste

[thin lotus]

HLL killer???????????

[lucid tusk]

Pretty sure it's dead in the water too, id say too bad but alt history is [REDACTED]

Can't use fun gamerwords here

[analog apex]

could have been... if finished

didn't happen 🙁

and it won't anymore either

[thin lotus]

T17 wouldve bought it for 50M

[analog apex]

50M... a price worth of betrayal of ones playerBase?
Maybe, since they have done it even without needing any T17. :/

I mean... changing the direction 180° .

...then wasting time making the new direction's stuff... just to find out later that they are out of time and won't probably finish even the altHistory version either

had they stuck with the original vision, they could have delivered some playable version that could have been giving them some money back to be able to keep going

[thin lotus]

its a game about stuffing objectives with your team, always was

[lucid tusk]

Are you saying you dont want an alt history extraction looter shooter with crafting mechanics? Don't let Max hear you say that

[thin lotus]

get this... you fight over...WATER

im remembering again lol

[worthy charm]

He is not wrong tho

[analog apex]

yeah ☝️ , it became something I wouldn't rly want to play. Try? Maybe, but only because of exploring UE5 capabilities in an FPS shooter like that. They however blew it.

[worthy charm]

I played Panzerwerfer in S44 once or twice and its way more fun. (Unrelated to the topic but my oppinion)

[thin lotus]

eh, I dont blame the guy for pivoting. A large scale shooter woudn't last a week

[harsh egret]

He asked for proof that he talks about the game as if from the same position of authority as people who actually played daily for years, and I provided a small sample. That's it. That was the discussion.

[lucid tusk]

That is one thing S44 does incredibly well, it's vehicle play and selection is fantastic

[analog apex]

I guess we won't know anymore.

but it had decent chances when it came to the HLL/exHLL players' expectations
could have easily left HLL empty too, getting its playerbase to Resolve

[worthy charm]

I didnt read the discussion at all... 😅
Just the points about arty seem to be accurate

[lucid tusk]

I do wonder what the next big WW2 fps will be (it won't be that communist revisionist slop from china)

[past vortex]

btw i recently heard t17 also had a hand in marauders demise

[analog apex]

something I wonder about sometimes too... because there is nothing new on the horizon, not even in the making we know of. At least not yet.

there's gonna be a gap that will need to get eventually filled. HLL will become just too old.

[past vortex]

cod prequel

[lucid tusk]

For the last 15ish years we got a lot of potential that was horribly wasted, battalion 1944, festung europa, it's really demoralizing

[analog apex]

something I don't know of?

[past vortex]

:}

[analog apex]

aaah, a joke... I get it... now 😄
(I know, too slow 😄 )

[lucid tusk]

Damn now I'm remembering festung europa, what a gut punch that was

[finite berry]

1. Yes, because I think stationary/mobile mortars would've been the better choice instead of whatever the hell this SP"A" abomination is; also, I'm against artillery the way it's used in HLL because it's boring gameplay imo (personal opinion) and because it degrades the recon squad to constant arty camping (not my personal opinion)
2. Pretty much what I just explained + artillery should be a call-in; what's wrong about that idea?
3. Okay, valid, I suggested changes here, but again, from the perspective of a HLL player; it was not "what I think would be good in this game", but "what does the game need in my opinion based on what I know about it"; multiple of my suggestions are also quite popular in the HLL community

[finite berry]

You are right that I did suggest things, I will give you that. You were right about that, I was wrong. But, again, I do not drop ideas because I personally would enjoy them but because I think they would be benefitial for HLL and its community.

[harsh egret]

Justify it how you want. Point still stands that it is weird and I'd never join a game's Discord I've never played before and start acting like I'm gracing people with my expert opinions.

You want to know why some people find you annoying and I just gave you the keys.

[past veldt]

I'm unconvinced that having ideas that are popular with the avg HLL player is the brag you think it

[finite berry]

Okay, but why am I annoying if I can bring up good and valid arguments to back up my ideas, suggestions and takes?

If I just dropped all of this without ever elaborating AND openly admitting not playing HLL, yeah, that would be annoying

But I go out of my way to elaborate and explain where my ideas are coming from

And I'm asking again (none of you guys bothered to answer this question so far), if I now bought HLL and played it for two or three hours, would you respect my opinions more if they were the exact same as before?

Just because I now have some playtime under my belt on paper?

[harsh egret]

I'm bored today. I think I'll walk i to a college campus and start talking over a professor to inject my opinions to his class on a topic I have no experience in. What's wrong with that?

[finite berry]

Again, I do have experience/knowledge.

That's the thing, I know what I'm talking about.

And about the things I have indeed no knowledge, I don't talk about (like comp matches).

[harsh egret]

Whatever man. Do whatever mental gymnastics you want. Sht is weird.

[finite berry]

For the third time this day my question remains unanswered 🙃

[slate canopy]

Alright folks

let's drop it

[thin lotus]

There's this one particular guy I see in the gym every time I go. This gym has lifters of all levels, novice to competitive.
I know this particular guy doesn't lift, he's told me this.
Every time I go to the gym, I see him chatting with the other members about suggestions in their weight techniques. He talks to every lifter in between.
Strange.

[slate canopy]

If you wanna argue, take to DM

[harsh egret]

I don't owe you anything, including the backup I already provided. I was trying to help you out.

Good day

[past veldt]

Polar needs to drop one of these

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-stfu-blah-blah-gif-13070641

[thin lotus]

Add a counter for "days without having played HLL"

[lucid tusk]

Give me access to all the Canadian assets so I can ruthlessly critique it

[harsh egret]

It's like a 15 year old virgin giving Johnny Sins advice on his technique and performance.

[slate canopy]

WHAT did I say?

Drop it

[lucid tusk]

To be fair the man could stop being bald

[harsh egret]

Uh oh. Mom voice on that one.

Now I'm really in trouble. crawls back in hole

[keen glen]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/847107168784351246/1455641134322684086/videoplayback-3.mp4?ex=695576f2&is=69542572&hm=72a938c1879cc78097d884d6d77f33a3751dccb7fe109f897a7fcdf9b1cd8efb&

[analog copper]

blocked xd

[gentle lintel]

Banned

[finite berry]

Timed out

[lucid gazelle]

mod tools?

[finite berry]

No 🫂

[slow geode]

Whats good fellas

[cobalt aurora]

why is my loading time so damn slow

ive been loading in for 2 minutes

[finite berry]

You got HLL on an HDD?

[cobalt aurora]

yes

my HDD is pretty fast

i could transfer it to my SSD and see if it changes

[tall kettle]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Some players may experience the following issues during Steam's routine maintenance:

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[finite berry]

Do that

An HDD is too slow

[nocturne birch]

@tropic light fnf check

[modest cargo]

Ich lebe, atme und sterbe für den Panzer.

[slate canopy]

Make sure internal SSD

[modest cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/hard-drive-break-data-destruction-hammer-hard-drive-hammer-drive-hammer-data-gif-17449816

[nova pivot]

@worthy charm help this man

[modest cargo]

I speak english haha

[worthy charm]

He didnt ask for help

yet

[modest cargo]

danka shien

German as a second, I've been trying to learn

[finite berry]

Inkorrekt! Danke schön!

[modest cargo]

thanks! lol

[finite berry]

;)

[nova pivot]

Execute him

[modest cargo]

thats gernglish

[nova pivot]

@worthy charm I was banned for less

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-patrick-spongebob-meme-straight-to-jail-gif-13122641551688707857

[nova pivot]

Okay William muller

[modest cargo]

xD

Danke schön

[worthy charm]

Heresy

[modest cargo]

silence, heretic.

<3

you guys invested in Nvidia yet?

https://tenor.com/view/cat-jam-stonks-stonk-jam-head-shot-hans-gif-21157324

[nova pivot]

I invest in black jack, poker and slot machines

[modest cargo]

love gambling

I just do it with stocks anymore

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-my-man-hd-my-man4k-gif-23532578

[modest cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/blippi-griddy-griddy-dance-griddy-gif-dance-gif-25618071

[tropic light]

Are we still doing fnf??? @worthy charm

[mortal geyser]

does anybody know the discord from Circle?

[slate canopy]

Yaar.

You still need?

[mortal geyser]

no ned thx

[slate canopy]

👍 Sounds good

[glossy sierra]

91-0 on 3LA - Kharkov Axis, Panzer IV

https://imgur.com/a/BH1egNp

RIP to entire enemy team

[timid rampart]

has anyone found out the formula for drop on the PIAT, Panzerschreck, and Bazooka?

[tall kettle]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE NOW ENDING** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Steam maintenance has now ended but some issues may still remain until a game restart

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[dreamy cradle]

Can't send pics in here but dm me and I'll send you the Pic

[glossy sierra]

Upload to imgur

[west bolt]

I have a question, I played for a few years on xbox game pass but i just purchased the game on steam because i no longer have the game pass. is it possible for me to transfer my progress to my steam version or do i have to start all over again?

[slate canopy]

You have to start over.

[west bolt]

aw :(

[slate canopy]

We don't have the same log in requirements with Team17 Just need the Steam account, it's associated with that.

[west bolt]

ok thank you. :)

[slate canopy]

Sorry 😅

[agile basin]

Yeah I’ll admit, the one I had a lovely time on was Tobruk

It is funny that, like, as of now, technically, every major front in WW2 has some representation, except for ONE…

At this point, HLL:V assets are gonna be straight up cannibalized by the devs for Pacific. Like, they know that that’s knocking at their door, that it’s the one and only thing Squad 44 actually has on and over them

Every tree on Khe Sanh is gonna be visible on Iwo Jima and I don’t wanna see a SINGLE complaint about it

[gloomy jolt]

My HLL doesn't work... When I go to load into a map/server it just loads forever and eventually times out. I've tried every fix online and dont know what to do.

[slate canopy]

HDD or SSD? Also is your time synced to the Internet?

[gloomy jolt]

SSD, and yes i've synced it.

[thin scarab]

Yeah 5 years ago

[finite berry]

I don't think they'll ever make the Pacific.

[past veldt]

.counter

[tall kettle]

https://i.imgur.com/oqjthtn.png

[gentle lintel]

Got you

[keen glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/944709788569309214/1295125629922181150/ezgif-4-819403f37a3a-1.gif

[wintry comet]

someone said this game will only focus on europe and not pacific

am curious what weapons we will be able to use hll vietnam

[lime umbra]

Horses

[keen yoke]

any techies here

networking preferably

[normal sinew]

Hi all. New to HLL . I have it on ps5. Any group I can join to learn from? 🙈

[finite berry]

#1343089641489961001

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/its-been-following-me-everywhere-bobby-evil-the-demon-of-money-its-stalking-me-gif-26434203

[gentle lintel]

we need a . counter for horses

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-27687032

[worthy charm]

When horses in S44?

Surely would bring about 100k new players

[finite berry]

Probably never lol

[worthy charm]

if not more

[finite berry]

But we have a mod that adds bicycles lol

[worthy charm]

or one with the Goliath

[finite berry]

That as well, yes

Or the Sturmtiger :D

[worthy charm]

When Sturmtiger SPA?

[finite berry]

We even have the Kugelpanzer

[worthy charm]

When Wirbelwind?

[finite berry]

That thing is so stupid lmao

[finite berry]

We have the Ostwind, does that count?

[worthy charm]

Its the ugly sister

not really

[finite berry]

Wirbelwind looks better, but the Ostwind is cool too

[worthy charm]

We all know more know more bullets is more better

MG42 goes brrr

[finite berry]

You do realise that neither of those have MG 42s as their main weapons, right 😅

[worthy charm]

I know

but more bullet

Mg42 has by far the highest firerate of all MGs in this game

[finite berry]

But the Ostwind has a larger calibre; almost twice as large

[worthy charm]

I dont need a bigger gun, I need more bullets

DIDNT YOU LISTEN TO ANYTHING I JUST SAID!!

[finite berry]

bigger bullet bigger boom

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/jakobglanc-gif-26492901

[worthy charm]

nah boring, except its a bigger rocket propelled boom

[wintry thistle]

who would have guessed

[finite berry]

weak mindset

[cedar arrow]

the regular running

[flat flame]

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/91a137ea67528bd50c627c348591e6c15952b1c73d2fad5fe8ae54dce0e7ddfc

can someone check their HLL-Win64-Shipping.exe (steam) on virustotal, see if they get the same results

[cyan saddle]

Everyone will see the same results since the file hashes are the same. This is most certainly a false positive though.

[flat flame]

ya, my game doesnt start anymore... windows defender is blocking it

so that has to happen to more ppl then

[cyan saddle]

If they let Win Defender scan their game files, yeah, probably

[cyan saddle]

You can add an exception

[flat flame]

can you check if your hash is the same?

[cyan saddle]

I did, it is

[flat flame]

ok then its not just me, thats a relieve

[cyan saddle]

Funnily enough it's not being flagged on my PC, even after installing the latest defender update. Maybe doing so will get rid of the issue for you as well 🤷

And otherwise, I wouldn't worry too much about it. The file hasn't been modified, and if it were, our hashes would be different and EAC wouldn't let you start the game either.

[flat flame]

installed latest defender update, but still same, game wont start and get a "Detected: PUA:Win32/GameHack" popup

[river rover]

It's possible you have something running in your system tray. Close everything in your system tray except what is required to play the game.

It should also give you a path to where the item is located and usually will point to a .dll
You can also delete the file if it's pointing to a game file and then try doing a Verify to see if the new file gives same response.

[flat flame]

the only thing i have in system tray is msi after burner

https://i.imgur.com/Ad3KCg6.png

[river rover]

OK. Delete the file. Then in Steam delete your Steam Download Cache, once back in do a Check for Steam Client Updates, you may or may not have any. Then Verify the files and it should bring down new file that you deleted.

[flat flame]

k ill try, but the result should be the same, cause Abu verified his hash was the same.

[river rover]

Also try without the msi after burner running period. It's probably the overlay.

[flat flame]

dont have the overlay installed, rivatuner or something liek that

[river rover]

Just be sure nothing else is running.

[flat flame]

ok i will

[river rover]

It's possible something is running and when it tries launching the game file that's what makes it point to it.

[flat flame]

did everything, deleted exe, deleted cache, verified files, turned of msi afterburner. still same results. ah well, ill assume it will get fixed soon if its a false flag.

[dusty bolt]

Good morning chat

[slate canopy]

Morninggggggg (⁠◕⁠ᴗ⁠◕⁠✿⁠)

[dusty bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/black-handshake-druski-rapper-gif-20590250

[gloomy jolt]

My HLL doesn't work... When I go to load into a map/server it just loads forever and eventually times out. I've tried every fix online and dont know what to do.

[river rover]

Is game on Internal SSD or external or regular HDD?

Move it to internal SSD. Delete your Steam Download Cache, once back into Steam do a Check for Steam Client Updates. You may or may not have any.

[gloomy jolt]

Okay I'll try this, thank you.

[river rover]

You'll probably see if on Internal SSD that it loads pretty quickly and will be surprised. 😉

[stable dome]

Windows security is blocking EAC bootstrapper. Anyone know how to fix this? I disabled firewall and even added HLL and EAC to exclusions

Randomly started doing this

[wintry comet]

didnt knew T17 was also making a modern time shooter

Wrath Ops or something like that

[slate canopy]

Possibly this may help? #6
#1271366233249288203 message

[stable dome]

@slate canopy good idea. Super helpful, I’ll let you know how it goes!

[slate canopy]

Don't know if it'll solve but it's a start 🤷‍♀️

[stable dome]

@slate canopy its a better idea than what I had goin

https://tenor.com/view/hello-it-have-you-tried-turning-it-off-and-on-again-telephone-on-call-gif-15495555

"of and on" lol

@slate canopy I figured it out, its a feature on windows called "Smart App Control" that was blocking it, I just disabled it.

windows security is somewhat confusing

[lucid tusk]

I was gonna say they barely built 100 but then I saw the ostwind numbers

[slate canopy]

👍 Glad you got it figured out.

[silent swift]

wait there was never crossplay with pc and console players?

[slate canopy]

Never.

PC Crossplay is Steam, Epic, and PC Gamepass.
Console Crossplay is XBOX and console.

[worthy charm]

And its gonna be the same for HLLV, whenever it comes out.

[modest cargo]

Happy New Years eve everyone! 🥂 🎇

Hope everyone has a safe night!

Maybe we can have an armistice at 11:59 lol

[silk condor]

Im still in 2025

Mad people are in 2026

[modest cargo]

we do the armistice at the 59th minute of every hour 😂

[slate canopy]

Man doesn't believe in time zones

[nova pivot]

America lives in the past

[modest cargo]

Ladies first

[silk condor]

But owns the future

[nova pivot]

Good one

[modest cargo]

were just being polite haha

[slate canopy]

What am I doing first? 🤔

[modest cargo]

entering the new year

I'll hold the door

[slate canopy]

But I'm in the US... I'm behind 😩

[modest cargo]

ohh yikes

I guess were holding the door together

[slate canopy]

haha

[finite berry]

Still four hours to go in central Europe

[worthy charm]

Lmao

[modest cargo]

Don't get too drunk tonight ladies and gentlemen and everyone else lol

[worthy charm]

The only true timezone

[finite berry]

I don't drink alcohol anyway :D

[slate canopy]

11 hours for us in US Central 🤷‍♀️

[nova pivot]

Yes

You are correct

[modest cargo]

Me either but ill have a glass of champagne tonight

[nova pivot]

Anything different is false

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler-hynes-hynies-saving-hope-like-always-as-usual-gif-19540673

[modest cargo]

I wish I was always correct that'd be sick

I'd be so rich

live on the roulette table

I'd do a Las Vegas ban speed run

then atlantic city, get jumped by the mob for "cheating"

but dude.. I'd be a wealthy paraplegic.

Honestly thats an OP super power

You could change history with a few words

If the next thing you said was correct no matter what, what would you say? Interesting thought experiment..

[spring cedar]

i have the same issue "Detected: PUA:Win32/GameHack" popup ! also some other reddit users: https://www.reddit.com/r/HellLetLoose/comments/1q0cpsa/detected_puawin32gamehack/?tl=de

pls help

[slate canopy]

Follow the same steps, see if it changes anything from above?

[spring cedar]

i did a reinstall and got the same popup

[slate canopy]

🤷‍♀️ It's tough for us to say for sure unless someone has it happen to them and able to figure it out. I don't think we've previously had this issue.

You linked the same thing?

[spring cedar]

yeah, deleted

[slate canopy]

Again, if they can't solve it, we don't know for sure how to solve. Clown, who responded to the original comment on here, gave their best suggestions.

If need be, contact Team17's support. DM the HLL Support bot on the right ->

[spring cedar]

sure, somebody should have a look into it imho, pls

[slate canopy]

Team17/HLL Support would be the best to contact.

I don't work for them, nor do I work in computer work so I'm not the one to ask. 😅 I have limited knowledge for PC help

[timber robin]

How to get officer role?

[worthy charm]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1342656902089277590

[silk igloo]

Turn off anything unnecessary, like RGB lights of your motherboard. EAC takes offense to light, a beast of darkness as it is

[empty steppe]

How do I get the dumb dumb role

[worthy charm]

https://discord.com/channels/1343331948386455562/1401699990224638035

[empty steppe]

Fine, Ig medic role is the same thing

[worthy charm]

|| Why are you the wrong cake again? ||

[empty steppe]

Im in a rainbow mood

WAIT

NOT… WHAT YOU THINK THAT MEANS

[worthy charm]

It already set and done

Im not sorry

[empty steppe]

Nooo

I have a gf I promise 😭😭

[worthy charm]

One that knows the earth is round?

[empty steppe]

Yep

[worthy charm]

also you will have to break up now

[empty steppe]

I found a normal person

[empty steppe]

Nuh uh

it’s New Year’s Eve 😘😉

[river rover]

You can pick the Action button and have it Do Nothing. More or less keeping it in place or add as an exclusion.

[river rover]

You should be able to choose the Action of it and have it Do Nothing and add to exclusion list.

[timber robin]

./

[wind shore]

happy new year everybody

[analog apex]

Same to you! Still 1h45m to go here in EU 🙂 .

[nova pivot]

What Europe are you in?

Not the real one

[analog apex]

the only one 😄

[nova pivot]

There is one hour and 35 minutes left.

Not 1 and 15

You are not in Europe

[analog apex]

riiiight, a typo 😄 , I honestly missed it 😄

well for what it's woth, fixed heh

[nova pivot]

Okay

You are in Europe now

[analog apex]

I am actually quite exhausted, maybe I won't even make it awake till the midnight this time.

[finite berry]

Stay awake by playing some HLL 😄

[analog apex]

With U18 and U19 problems, I lost my taste for it... will see for how much longer yet, but right now rly. no mood for HLL on my side.

[worthy charm]

Stay strong old man

DONT GIVE IN!!!

[analog apex]

not even sure what to play... I finished KCD2 with all DLCs, finished all AoM:R campaigns, I wish there was something new WWII shooter, done with modern dev tech

[worthy charm]

Company of Heroes 3

:3

[analog apex]

that's WWII allright, but just a strategy 🙁

[worthy charm]

Foxhole?

[analog apex]

old +not a shooter either

[worthy charm]

The view is weird but believe me its so fun with a clan

[finite berry]

Squad 44 😏

[worthy charm]

COD vanguard

[worthy charm]

Booooooo

[finite berry]

Old and sh it

[analog apex]

old as well

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/olenna-tyrell-old-drink-talking-gif-17925813

[analog apex]

SQ44 (or rather PS as it happened in its PS time), was always so terribly marketed

now became too old

as its graphic/ environmental detail was never rly good either

[worthy charm]

I dont think it looks worse than HLL tbh

[mental snow]

why is this game so broken 🧌

[finite berry]

It looks inferior, but not much

[analog apex]

it does... those copypasted generic trees still killing any attempt to enjoy the sight on the nature

in HLL it's not that visible at all

[finite berry]

The trees are the smallest problem it has

[worthy charm]

I mean, we also got the same trees and buildings in HLL

[analog apex]

yep, but the level of environmental detail was a problem that has mattered to me

[finite berry]

I don't mind

[analog apex]

yep, but when I look one way, I don't see (or at least it doesn't appear like I am seeing) 30 instances of the same tree in HLL

[mental snow]

is it normal to open the game and be stuck on a picture after the beginning credits?

[analog apex]

so obvious in SQ44 it kills any visual immersion when it comes to the environment and nature

[finite berry]

I'm playing it for the historical accuracy, the vehicle roster, the sound atmosphere, the teamwork and the overall gameplay experience, not because I want to see a plethora of good-looking trees

[analog apex]

graphics & environments are main things for me, everything else I judge only afterwards... otherwise I would be playing WWII:Online

WWII environments must look faithful to me, otherwise I don't feel any taste to fight in them

waiting for an UE5 (or probably UE6 by the looks of it 😄 ) WWII 1st person MP game

[finite berry]

That's not just WW2, that's any environment

It's not like the trees looked different during ww2 than they do now

[analog apex]

maybe that's why I also love KCD2 - it looks medieval and feels medieval

and very detailed

if it had older graphics or visibly lower details while keeping the today's tech capabilities in mind, I would probably ignore it as well

big shame Resolve didn't happen

I was rly preparing myself to switch over from HLL eventually

[worthy charm]

looks up a resolve video
sees HLL gameplay after a minute

Great

[analog apex]

in any case, a massive WWII 1st person shooter hole is in the making (when it comes to new/WIP WWII titles), hopefully just a question of time until someone starts working on something

[worthy charm]

BM KS incoming

[analog apex]

right 😄 ... just so Max could send me away the 2nd time lol

what was the game they have been working on? I mean, the one about mutants.

hard to find them when they renamed themselves as a studio

[worthy charm]

I forgot the name, give me a second

[cosmic pilot]

is it though

[worthy charm]

Hunger

[analog apex]

well, no more historical WWII and even if, doens't seem it's going anywhere development-wise at all

[worthy charm]

also sam why can I find you anywhere?

This is crazy, I found a Sam comment faster than actual gameplay

[cosmic pilot]

crazy

[quick crest]

Has anyone ever had this issue? I was playing today just fine, experienced a bug where I couldnt join a squad on a new map refresh, and now I cant play the game? When i launch, EAC says: "failed to creeate the game process. access denied". Has anyone had this issue before? I have no idea what is wrong now

[mental snow]

boi

[finite berry]

Did not have this issue, but try verifying files on Steam first.

[dreamy vault]

dssis

[quick crest]

Yeah I have verified them, restarted my pc, full install and reinstall game, checked firewall. no fix. I cant even open the EAC setup to repair it or uninstall

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/what-gif-1177376989323896638

[mental snow]

why did the game lowkey just start breaking for everyone?

like i swear i was playing the game just fine and then boom everyone bugging

[slate canopy]

#1271366233249288203 message

see if this works

[finite berry]

Hm. Just a cautious idea on my part, but another thing you could do is deleting the EAC folder from the game's files and then verify files on Steam. That will force a reinstall of EAC.

[slate canopy]

That's what th e instructions above say lol

[finite berry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538055883075354637/1451353103554183169/Cat_handshake.jpg?ex=69565828&is=695506a8&hm=aa08086254a4b063b671252dfc247eec811c29c27c0f237e944c695e8e3befde&

[quick crest]

no fix 🙁

i loaded fine into halo MCC. same anticheat. so i guess thats not the issue

[thin scarab]

Happy New Year Chat🍾🎉

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

These people...

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/not-yet-mace-windu-star-wars-gif-9797353

[thin scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/yuimetal-gif-2236335851178412850

[quick crest]

Hold up everyone, I found something

Under windows security: "detected PUA: win32/GameHack" affecting HLL program files? WTF

[analog apex]

🎆 🎆 🎆 Happy new year! 🎆 🎆 🎆

[nova pivot]

Happy new year

[signal mulch]

Happy new year

[sick bramble]

Happy new year!

[pale salmon]

Happy new year everybody 🥳

[oak current]

Happy new year you rascals

[slate canopy]

checks clock It's 5pm, you lied 😭 /s

[quick crest]

fixed it. windows defender was false flagging the binaries for the game files. It was the one file I needed to launch. So weird, and so frustrating. Maybe it got corrupted when i hard reset the game?

[slate canopy]

🤷‍♀️ It's seems to be a common issue lately.

[quick crest]

thanks for moral support

[frank sedge]

does anybody know how to stop the game from resetting everything every couple of months, it resets my settings, classes, and everything.

[delicate elm]

I just woke up and it’s already 2026

[worthy charm]

Will I have to call them?

[obtuse dragon]

A new year is about to start and we still haven't gotten the winter warfare DLC 🥀🥀🥀

[onyx sierra]

they better have same gore in HLL vietnam

[timid rampart]

? game is already too gory rn

[finite berry]

With the ridiculously large blood clouds?

[timid rampart]

yes

[empty steppe]

Yeah bro it’s only 6:58

[nova pivot]

Nah it's 3:15

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-incredible-shrimp-truth-shrimp-shrimp-truth-shrimp-of-truth-gif-1862074793508121424

[keen yoke]

@dull rapids what do you use for virtual networking

I have a gns3 set up but I am trying to get some pretty complex virtual networks set up and havent done it before

[strange peak]

Happy New year! (Even if I write a bit late)

[slate canopy]

Not New Years yet in the USA, so not late for us

[real parrot]

You live on the past ngl

The future is today

[slate canopy]

That's okay. Can you tell me the winning Lotto numbers, mister future?

[real parrot]

If I werel, I would have to end you

Or something like that

[slate canopy]

I mean, we can split it 👀

[amber eagle]

happy new year everyone!

[real parrot]

Happy new year for you too

Now I have to go to each social media and contact to wish a happy new yer or they'll think I'm mad at them

[onyx sierra]

this is bait

[timid rampart]

do you have gore on or off

[keen yoke]

5 hours till new year

[fringe hollow]

hour an 2 minutes

[modest star]

anyone able to help me with some settings help? just picked up the game (yes i read the tech solutions page but am still having issue)

[slate canopy]

What issue you having?

[modest star]

The infamous resolution settings stuff from what I understand

[slate canopy]

So you used this? https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1271341876569575505

[modest star]

yes

[slate canopy]

Okay, then I guess what issues are you still having or questions you have?

[modest star]

well I am able to change the resolution to 1920x1080, but once it asks if i want to keep teh settings, the cursor is way off from what is displayed

[slate canopy]

🤔 hmmm I'm not sure.

Did you save settings then restart game?

[modest star]

Ill try to click keep settings and then reboot the game to see if that helps

but also, is it normal for the cursor to not reach the right side of the screen fully? it stops a few inches away

[slate canopy]

Not really?

[modest star]

Ok I guess it fixed itself? I clicked 1920x1080 and it just works as it should now... no more issues

Im just confused as to what actually fixed it though lmao, thanks for the moral support I guess

[slate canopy]

🤷‍♀️ One of those - switch on switch off situations? lol

[sterile pagoda]

So did Seelow win

Aw 19 hrs to go

[quiet steeple]

Friends! How do I find someone to play with? I want to find my own team

[slate canopy]

Try in #console-looking-for-unit ? Or if more community go to #1343089641489961001 ? Or just make sure you use your mic in game and chat with folks while communicating stuff

[dusty garden]

How to solve "Lost connection to host" problem?? it is so annoying. I have reinstall the game, using etheral net, and set the system time to automatic. but still, nothing work. Anyone know how to fix it?

[neat dove]

my game wont start says failed too create the game process ive unistalled it verified the game still not working i was just playig it like 6 hours ago no problem

[slow current]

#metoo

[pastel willow]

same

[midnight salmon]

will HLL die in 2026?

[frigid thunder]

If you donate to any charity fund thingy . Then I'll consider letting it stay

[obtuse dragon]

fuh nah gng

unless the devs mess up badly or they make HLL:V leagues better than hll

And accessible, remember that prices also affect on the amount of players+optimization

[shadow plover]

windows defender blocking game, i added it to exclusions and still dont work. I just bought it today, is there any fix?

when i played it on epic like 2 yr ago it was working fine

[minor cypress]

Did you allow it to bypass windows defender? Have the same error lol

[quick crest]

Yeah I allowed it. To be sure, remove it and verify game files on steam. It should load back in the same file that windows blocks.

[minor cypress]

Yeah I did that a few times, I just wasn’t sure if I should actually let it through firewall, had no idea if it was malicious or not lol

[quick crest]

Check windows defender. It block game files as a “virus”. False flag. Will be files related to the binaries

[quick crest]

If it’s the binaries file for the game it’s good. If you remove it and launch the game, EAC will say you are missing that file and it’s unable to launch.

[minor cypress]

Yeah it’s the exact same file you mentioned. “Gamehack” sounded sus af lmfao

[quick crest]

Check windows defender. It will say a certain file is marked low risk. Binaries file for the game. Allow it and should launch again.

[quick crest]

Gamehack is a windows defender term for any program I thinks is malware. It confused me until I googled it haha

[shadow plover]

I allowed every file and still not working

[past veldt]

Turn off the live screening and it'll be fine

[past veldt]

Install the game on an SSD

[shadow plover]

Problem is with smart app control blocking hll-win64-shipping.exe file but only way to bypass it is to disable smart app control. But if you disable it the only way to enable it again is to reinstall windows system. Wondering if smart app control is useful for virus blocking so its safe to turn it off?

[finite berry]

5, 12, 23, 24, 36, PB 14

[forest aurora]

What is the name of the website that tracks ur team 17 account stats?

I forgot its name

[wintry comet]

tracker gg or sum

https://www.hllstats.dev/

only works for steam

[past veldt]

https://hllrecords.com/ might work for non-steam, idk

[woven wigeon]

Hey guys do we have a relese date for Vietnam?

a*

[naive sluice]

Does anyone know any Xbox HLL servers?

North America

[finite berry]

No

[woven wigeon]

Damn thx

[grizzled kiln]

[pine ember]

Probably late 2026

[keen glen]

probably 2028

[nova pivot]

This seems to me to be the most realistic option.

[worthy charm]

my god imagine S42 coming out before HLLV

This timeline has to be the worst possible one.

[nova pivot]

S44 on consoles before HLLV

[worthy charm]

without crossplay?

xD

[nova pivot]

Porting it to consoles and adding cross play would save the game

[worthy charm]

500 new players without mics are gonna save S44 surely

[nova pivot]

It would give us an alternative to HLL and bring them players, which would bring more PC gamers back to the game or buy it.

[worthy charm]

Thats quite a heavy dose of Copium

[nova pivot]

All the people that care about history would move to s44 and HLL would be left for the comp players

[worthy charm]

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure

[nova pivot]

Yes

[worthy charm]

People love saying that as if its true

[nova pivot]

You are ture

You fixed it

[broken shoal]

just notice never played offensive US in Omaha beach that makes me attack Dog Green. Its always the point in the middle. What in the helly

[cosmic pilot]

Proof to the opposite #ww2-history

[broken shoal]

is it a feature or random[?

[nova pivot]

Leave the dog alone

No to animal violence

[cosmic pilot]

Prince Paul stayed in hll instead of moving to s44

[cosmic pilot]

So help me, I will flop you

[broken shoal]

hangover in my living room watching this and wanting to play HLL omaha beach offensive US https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTQVwKDLxWI

[worthy charm]

Keep in mind people say that on PC as well.

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/floppa-caracal-cat-caracal-cat-floppa-cat-gif-26076747

[worthy charm]

Would people actually play as much S44 as they are saying its better than HLL maybe the playerbase would exceed 300 people on peek time.

[cosmic pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/katharine-hepburn-laughing-giggling-lol-facepalm-gif-12081421

[finite berry]

I mean, that is exactly what would happen. The micless players, not the save.

[nova pivot]

I would play s44 if it was ported to console

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-what-i-said-wil-dasovich-wil-dasovich-superhuman-thats-what-i-told-thats-what-im-talking-about-gif-10502346389653612392

[finite berry]

I genuinely hope it never gets ported.

It would be the equivalent of HLL going free on Epic Games.

[broken shoal]

squad 44 is azz my man

[finite berry]

You are azz

[nova pivot]

Nah

[finite berry]

Oh, absolutely

[nova pivot]

Not everyone on console is brainless

[finite berry]

A short-term insane spike of players that comes with a severe drop on quality

[nova pivot]

Most of the people yes but not all of them

[finite berry]

I said micless, not brainless