mess-hall

[vale garnet]

I play like it’s bf6 or cod and I do just fine, people just wanna pretend that roleplaying is the most effective way to play

[gloomy quartz]

The fact you can just "spawn in" a tank. Should be forced to put the parts together , fuel it yourself, load all the ammunition one by one, test the engine, then be able to drive off and tank

[turbid plaza]

Iys not about roleplaying

Its about team work and communicating

Not a level 5 officer whi doesnt talk

Or a swuad wirh no mics running around solo

[outer stone]

We should’ve gotten a Stug III that would’ve been badass

[turbid plaza]

If t17 woukd forfe teamwork and teamplay i woulsnt say ir caters to cod

[past veldt]

Yeah, but like, what about the armour update is it that is catered to cod players?

[vale garnet]

I’m a level 245 and I have command chat muted idc 😂😂

[turbid plaza]

But it doesnt.

[silk igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/byee-lolol-gif-13058586

[turbid plaza]

Most the ppl that play tbia gane dk how to even drop a supply box or build a garrison

[past veldt]

They never have to be fair

[vale garnet]

It’s so rare anyone in pubs says anything remotely useful that there’s no point in command chat

[cosmic pilot]

Most good games are about roleplaying

[turbid plaza]

They just run and gun

[past veldt]

I've been playing since summer 2020. It has always been this way

[turbid plaza]

If u meant playing the role in game then yes

Idk if he meant that or RP like roleplaying

[past veldt]

But like, what about the armour update is catered to cod players?

[turbid plaza]

Everyone should play their role thats obvious

[cosmic pilot]

RP

[silk igloo]

The game can be played 100% efficient with no-one saying a word, but why wouldn't you play a singleplayer shooter then? What's the point?

[vale garnet]

Yeah players now are the same as they always have been, people just don’t wanna accept HLL is a bad pub game

HLL has never been good in public servers

[turbid plaza]

True

Which is why i started and run a group

[umbral osprey]

I feel like tanks require more teamwork and comms now too since the squad has more abilities and the tanks are more vulnerable

[vale garnet]

For me? I play publics for practice and that’s all

[turbid plaza]

100% effcient withour a word

I highly disagree

The most important asoect of this gane is suppose to be communication

[past vortex]

id say 90%

if everyone marks and looks at map all the time

[vale garnet]

A single top comp player can shut down whole areas of the map by themselves, that’s team work even if they aren’t yapping in comms

[turbid plaza]

A top player maybe. The majority of the base? No

[vale garnet]

Not everyone needs to run around holding hands in game to be useful, judging people for playing the way they enjoy in public matches is wild

[cosmic pilot]

And yet the game isn't about roleplaying?

[turbid plaza]

Whos judging anyone

Im saying what the gane is mesnr for vs how its played by the majority

[umbral osprey]

I am judging them but they're free to play how they want lol

[vale garnet]

You

“Cod players”

[thin lotus]

"teamwork" should not be confused with "[Thing] that benefits the team".

[turbid plaza]

Jesus christ its a referenfe

Dont take it so literal

I used to play cod too

[past vortex]

disqualified then

[silk igloo]

You get it though, what'd be the point if no-one said anything? Might as well play with a bunch of bots in arma or such. Talking sh at the back of the bus in every match, that's what I love

[turbid plaza]

Who didnt play cod in 2008?

[gloomy quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1287908850829361212/1428849069760970752/attachment.gif

[umbral osprey]

I played a lot of CoD

[thin lotus]

one guy having that much leverage over the opposition because of what he's able to as an individual isn't 'teamwork' in the literal sense.
It's just something he's doing that benefits the team

[turbid plaza]

By cod players i just mean the players on hll who are casual, play on game pass, dont care about it like the diehards and just run and gun without talking.

[vale garnet]

It absolutely is teamwork, you are doing a job for the team, and making their lives easier

[thin lotus]

Like, is an individual player placing a garry into enemy territory which then allows the entire rest of the team REALLY 'teamwork' in the sense that it require the team to do what that one player did?

[umbral osprey]

I think all community servers should require mics and if you want an exception you have to request it

[vale garnet]

HLL boils down to Garries and kills, you kill your way to Garries that’s the whole game

[cosmic pilot]

Inb4 chum starts using some communist ahh definition of teamwork

[past vortex]

im so lucky that many german servers do just that :}

[vale garnet]

I have a mic, I just don’t want to talk to people in pubs

[turbid plaza]

Require mics and level 30+ officers in all servers

[thin lotus]

Of course it is, im not arguing for or against HLLs shoddy win conditions.

[cosmic pilot]

You kill your way into the strong point

[thin lotus]

Many have no problem with HLLs 'teamwork' aspect, when the reality is that its just a few guys doing very simple actions that in turn allow the entire team to benefit what they did, namely with garries.

A few dudes on any team that essentially carry the entire rest of the team, isn't 'teamwork'. That nuance is lost on most players

[cosmic pilot]

Getting to the strong point is short term more important than garrisons

[vale garnet]

Not really, you remove spawns and gain map control and cap the point as a result

Just running to circle won’t win matches

[past vortex]

naw

[cosmic pilot]

SHORT TERM

[silk igloo]

Right, whenever I have to separate myself to build a garry on random supplies, it's not teamwork even though it helps the team. It's the opposite, and the game design forces people to separate themselves from their team to do things

[umbral osprey]

Yeah I see that a lot in their descriptions, good stuff

[vale garnet]

Capping the point is long term not short term

[cosmic pilot]

In theory you could win the game without building a single garrison as long as you can build OPs

[umbral osprey]

Not even the bare essentials?

[vale garnet]

You have to do everything else first

[vale garnet]

Nope, command chat muted, prox muted

[cosmic pilot]

Capping the point is short term

[vale garnet]

We have a whole chart for why this isn’t true but go off king

[cosmic pilot]

It only takes 2 minutes to cap a strong point, it is a short term aspect

[vale garnet]

That’s not how the game works but okay

You believe whatever you want

[cosmic pilot]

It is.

[past vortex]

thats multiple spawnwaves on the garry you didnt take down and none on your own you didnt build

[silk igloo]

capping the point is irrelevant, stopping people from spawning in is relevant. the officers of the losing side can instantly rebuild OPs, and they'll be no worse for it if the enemy isn't ready to go for their new defense

[vale garnet]

Capping point with no Garry network and without taking down their Garry network just leads to instant recap and you lose the game

[past vortex]

or its a stomp anyway

[cosmic pilot]

Waiting for chum to weigh in that I'm right

[past vortex]

chum is gonna say something about teleporting

[thin lotus]

I am not following your tangent tbh

[viscid cobalt]

chat did they fix the hit reg yet

[thin lotus]

Being able to kill the enemy to stop what they need to do is the catalyst to everything objective related.
Even if you're the player who thinks simply sitting in active zone is helping, if you also cannot prevent the enemy from doing so, you are still a net negative player

You take down enemies, and you swarm objectives. It's really that simple.

[native sonnet]

hello guys

[umbral osprey]

Is it overwhelming for you?

[native sonnet]

i have a big problem to hll

[cosmic pilot]

The point is that garrisons serve the purpose of attacking the strong point.
If you attack garrisons without attacking the strong point then you will not win.
I'm not concerned with assumptions about player behaviors, only the interaction of the mechanics of the game.

[silk igloo]

Yeah, and then we get to how to do it, on any specific terrain. Without getting shot.

[thin lotus]

"take down relevant enemy garries to make progress"

Uhhh no shi?

this isn't rocket science

[dull epoch]

Playing cod?

[native sonnet]

I only see 5 servers that are empty and that's all I can do, can someone help me please?

[cosmic pilot]

Being in the strong point is more important than garrisons.
Exhibit A, it explains how precapping is so effective.

[thin lotus]

Players who think 'KD doesn't matter" are a lost cause

[dull epoch]

Based take

[thin lotus]

"precapping" is effective because of how shoddy the game's design logic is, and because of overly huge maps. Thats a different convo

[native sonnet]

I only see 5 servers that are empty and that's all I can do, can someone help me please?

please guys

help me

[dull epoch]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1242767547321942036
https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1242767547321942036
https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1242767547321942036

[umbral osprey]

Make sure at the top you're letting it show community servers

[oak current]

download hell let loose, not hell let loose (public testing)

[cosmic pilot]

It's honestly surprising to me comp doesn't optimize for precapping

[thin lotus]

which once again goes back to the whole "one guy doing all the 'teamwork' " baloney this game is chock full of

[silk igloo]

It matters in context. I could kill a player 100 times without moving, and the 101st time he gets me, my spawn, and caps the point by himself. MGs cant move, they depend on others to move for them. So on and so forth. All else being equal, yeah, KD wins. But you could say that about any concept

[thin lotus]

One guy does all the 'teamwork', that's a quote

[native sonnet]

I downloaded the normal version.

[oak current]

then happy journey through #1270189497719586908

[cosmic pilot]

This is correct

[thin lotus]

denying someone 100 times in his ability to do something during that span of time is still a benefit.

[silk igloo]

Is it? How is it any different in two pawns facing each other in chess?

[thin lotus]

that fact taht you died at the end of this time span doesnt negate your effectiveness against that enemy prior

[finite berry]

Törken

[silk igloo]

With the difference that the one trying and dying has a chance to win, whereas the one sitting has none?

[pine ember]

Börken

[nova pivot]

Is this the evolution?

[thin lotus]

you still denied a guy 100 times in his efforts to do something

[pine ember]

German insider

[silk igloo]

And he forced me to sit there doing nothing

[thin lotus]

if this were a 1v1 game, sure he's the victor, but the rest of the team is screwing off somewhere

[cosmic pilot]

The point is it's indecisive by itself.

[vale garnet]

Not at all I’ve SLed plenty in comp games, I just don’t want to talk to pubs and don’t find anything they say very useful

[cosmic pilot]

The benefit is not obvious without other context

[thin lotus]

There's enough variables to where I'd have to question what the rest of the team is doing in this hypothetical 1v1 situation where youre getting 100 kills on a single guy.

[silk igloo]

Of course this is just a theoretical thing, in practice it's hardly ever a 1v1. If I was sitting there and holding 2 guys, I would be creating my team a chance to outnumber the enemy elsewhere

[cosmic pilot]

Getting spawn camped at hq to fight over arty

[vale garnet]

Meh killing for killings sake isn’t useful

100 kills in a useless area isn’t a benefit to you or a detriment to them, deaths cost nothing

[thin lotus]

it isn't useful if the entire rest of the team isn't capitalizing what the top fraggers on a team are doing

[cosmic pilot]

So we're all in agreement

[thin lotus]

but that doesnt negate what the top fraggers are doing, even from an objectively viewed standpoint

[vale garnet]

You can have more impact getting 40 good kills than 120 bush camping kills in the middle of nowhere

[cosmic pilot]

You all agree with me

[silk igloo]

Although there's the humane and practical effect of people quitting after getting killed ten times in a row, or just getting demoralized and giving up

[vale garnet]

Killing a tank crew means more than killing 20 inf for example

The inf will just respawn and come right back, you may have just taken that tank out of the fight

[thin lotus]

i understand what you're getting at. But context still matters.

[cosmic pilot]

That's what jairion said

[thin lotus]

People who equate 'guy who goes 100-1' as the same as 'guy who goes 0-100' just ebcause the end result is that no ground was gained, are morons

[vale garnet]

I am what you’d call a “top fragger” and I can tell you most of the kills I get are meaningless, the ones that matter are those taking a spawn or killing tank crew or MGs, or the big 3-4 kills in the point to defend it

[silk igloo]

eh, we're just discussing semantics detached from any given real match. we're all in agreement on how the game works

[vale garnet]

If you take no space the kills mean nothing

[thin lotus]

the 100-1 guy is objectively better even if no ground was gained from it

[vale garnet]

Deaths cost nothing, deaths do not matter if no space is lost

[cosmic pilot]

Ermmm, actually

[thin lotus]

sure, but even if no ground is gained, the guy with the better KD is still objectively better than the loser who cant even hit his shots

[vale garnet]

Not at all, they both have the same value if neither takes or loses ground

[thin lotus]

that is objectively wrong

[cosmic pilot]

Objectively better at getting kills.
Objectively equal at taking ground

[vale garnet]

If you’re gonna just kill people but do nothing with it, you have achieved nothing

[thin lotus]

all things equal, the guy with the better KD is just that, better

[silk igloo]

chum just sees it from a personal level, which is true, and we see it from the outcome level, which is also true

[vale garnet]

I get a better KD than @past veldt but he has more impact individually in the outcome of a match than me

[silk igloo]

there is no disagreement

[vale garnet]

The better player is the one who affects the game more not the one with better KD

KD is especially useless in HLL because of all the ways you can die

I can have a 0.6 KD and still have 100 kills

[thin lotus]

I'm comparing two players abilities in any situation which the end result is that "ground was not gained"
the guy with the better KD is better than the guy who cannot even hit his targets

[vale garnet]

Again, no? Like I said if no ground is gained your better aim is totally useless

It doesn’t do anything

It has no actual impact so it has no relevance to ability

[silk igloo]

The shooting skill is definitely better for the killer, but not the movement, right

[worldly mountain]

Best to clear the area of enemies or disrupt certain routes.

[vale garnet]

I can out shoot 99% of people in this game, I would not say my shooting is what makes me a “better player” though

[silk igloo]

I just used it as an hyperbole and you guys are splitting hairs

[thin lotus]

"everything you just did meant nothing because ground was not gained"
This is not true. You still had an objectively better impact than the guy who can barely aim

[vale garnet]

You didn’t though? A death still costs nothing, you’re not taking away resources or tickets or impacting the game in any way

A kill has no value independent of the game

[thin lotus]

you are denying the enemies time and ability

the hyperbole of it being a 1v1 situation is confusing you

[vale garnet]

But you’re not? You’re gaining nothing

Their time isn’t wasted, you’re both wasting your time

If you do nothing with the kill it means absolutely nothing

[thin lotus]

which again, it isn't a 1v1, what are the 49 other clots doing in that span of time

[vale garnet]

The team with more kills won’t automatically win a match, we know this from years of tournament play

[silk igloo]

do i have to say slurs to make mods stop this

[vale garnet]

There are teams who went all in on pure fragging and they don’t win

[thin lotus]

lol something is lost in this conversation. I understand what you are saying

[worldly mountain]

this is true.

[thin lotus]

i am speaking on relative terms, comparing player vs player.
You are solely looking at end result

[silk igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/apple-orange-gif-26930909

[vale garnet]

The very best teams of all time (CoRe, WTH) are based around fitting a system and playing as part of a machine, your ability to kill in isolation of everything else is nice but it’s only relevant if you make something of those kills.

You can be a better player by being the one willing to run the open field over a guy sat in a bush

You get across one time and you can be more impactful than all their kills

[past vortex]

isnt it espt

[vale garnet]

No

[past vortex]

:}

[silk igloo]

Right, in a team aspect, just having one guy run and die every 10-30 secs buys info has a chance against a sitting enemy that has none. If you've no other tools

[vale garnet]

Plus if you wipe their OP you win

Simple as that

[past vortex]

yea had that in extreme recently

one clan squad carrying the whole game on the enemy side

[vale garnet]

The best play I’ve ever seen was a guy just running through the enemy team wiping all their OPs not even shooting and it won us the cap

[past vortex]

i dedictaed my squad on wiping their op and whenever we succeeded the tide turned

[vale garnet]

Absolute clutch without even killing

Do people need to frag? Yes, but kills are not an indicator of actual impact or “skill”

[silk igloo]

and here we return to the win and spawn mechanics

[past vortex]

ask chum about the spawn mechanic

[silk igloo]

i just want the better team to win, without being held back by some rat spawning from the sky

[past vortex]

idk how the best team isnt winning because of that

[silk igloo]

dear god, it's raining rats

[past vortex]

both teams can do it after all

[silk igloo]

just because both teams have access to nukes doesnt make it balanced

[past vortex]

airheads kinda only work against bad teams anyway

if a team is ok then any airhead gets destroyed quick

[silk igloo]

yeah but only because people figured out a way to counter them. we'd figure out a way to counter tactical nukes, it doesnt make it fair

[past vortex]

then there are maps situations where its impossible without airheads...

[silk igloo]

wrong, you just have to shoot the enemy and advance properly

[thin lotus]

the prevalence and necessity of behind-enemy-lines teamwide spawn blobbing in HLL is too damn high

[silk igloo]

by the book, damn

[past vortex]

beach landing and remagen say no to that

otherwise yea

[silk igloo]

even if that was the case, the solution isn't an airhead, but to give the troops something to fight the enemy with directly

[past vortex]

yea you could say that

but heh..

[silk igloo]

like where are the naval barrages bm talked about

or boats

[past vortex]

also i kinda like it when the team is good and manages to take all those spawns behind the lines out before they take off

thats a big part of the game

[silk igloo]

it shouldnt beeee

[idle pollen]

Naval barrages would be awesome

[cedar ore]

just found a very old gif from the HLL kickstarter of a player changing the barrel on their MG42

how come we never got that :(

[steady zodiac]

TOPIC: PROPER GARRISON PLACEMENT
I need to hear your thoughts on this one:
I keep seeing commanders and SLs alike build garrisons INSIDE strong points. The big "no-no" for me here is that it only takes one enemy soldier to prevent the entire defending team from spawning and hence push the defenders +200 meters away from the objective. The time it takes to cover +200m on foot is enough time for the attacking team to get into a decent position to cap the point. 9/10 times I see us losing the point as soon as that garrison goes red.

I usually run SL or support and prefer setting them up +100 meters behind (or around) the point. This ensures a steady flow of infantry to the stronghold + it makes it harder for the attacking team to get to your garrisons.

I mentioned this on a server last night and got a lot of stick for it - am I missing something here?

Curious to know you guys' thoughts here.

See you on the battlefield.

[ancient harness]

Garry inside of the strong point, another 1-2 of support just behind the grid line in different directions

[main harness]

Hey has anyone got a link to where I can preorder HLL:Vietnams?

[steady zodiac]

Sure, but that garrison inside the strongpoint is of no use when the point comes under attack. 200+ meters is a long way to run.

[umbral osprey]

You can only wishlist it at this point

[main harness]

Oh. Is there anywhere I can donate to support the development of the game?

[umbral osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/i-see-what-youre-doing-gary-washington-first-wives-club-s2e5-i-know-what-youre-doing-gif-24672071

[prisma fiber]

Why are you the way that you are?

[leaden fiber]

not in this game

[prisma fiber]

That was good bait though

[prisma fiber]

Hey man, in a pub match I'll take what I can get

Im glad arty crews can build garrisons, more classes should be able to

[nova pivot]

Share it please

[leaden fiber]

i nearly always have a negative KDR in this game and I'd say im a better player than most because im spending my time playing SL, finding spawns, marking them, finding tanks, marking them, and building / defending garrisons

my support score is always near the top of whatever match im in

[prisma fiber]

The only classes where KDR really are a factor is arty and maybe tanks

[leaden fiber]

KDR means less in this game than it does in others

Life is cheap in HLL

killing soldiers doesnt matter as much. Killing spawns and tanks? now we talkin

[cedar ore]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/blackmatter/hell-let-loose/description scroll down to the MG42 bit

[prisma fiber]

The link of the image would have worked

https://i.kickstarter.com/assets/018/612/164/fc08186a2c4bca50ed89b249f3465e5f_original.gif?fit=scale-down&origin=ugc&q=92&v=1507161397&width=680&sig=zqf%2B5Y48z34OKsY476mciUT10Xzvx09BLzloTZwMNOM%3D

[cedar ore]

I love looking into the old hell let loose stuff, there’s so much interesting bits that never made the cut

[cedar ore]

Couldnt, wouldn’t let me :(

I also can’t embed I think

[prisma fiber]

Right click gif, copy image url

Past link in here

[cedar ore]

On my phone rn lol

[prisma fiber]

that's the entire process

Ok whatever the phone operation is for the same thing

[cedar ore]

Oh yeah the share button whoops lol

[nova pivot]

It's beautiful

I'm about to cry

[final osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-unless-gif-21568600

[sterile valley]

VIETNAM GAME ON XBOX!!!!!!!

RAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!

[prisma fiber]

Actually it wont be on that platform

[sterile valley]

Terrible ragebait attempt tbh

[past vortex]

next gen xbox ofc

[sterile valley]

I'm on Series X obv

[past vortex]

next gen

if ms does one

else ps6

[sterile valley]

Oh you mean like the Xbox/PC hybrid

Definitely copping it if that's actually what it is tbh

[nova pivot]

Yes

They have announced it

[sterile valley]

Hell yeah

[past vortex]

if it will really be a pc then it wont be cheaper than a pc tho

[sterile valley]

I don't want to switch platforms because everything I have is on Xbox and it's what I'm used to

[dusky flume]

Hi guys

[nova pivot]

👋

[sterile valley]

Yeah but I'll get to keep my games and things like that+I'll have access to steam, so I'd rather get the next gen Xbox over a PC

[dusky flume]

Hey hru?

[dusky flume]

That is understandable

[nova pivot]

I'm fine, thanks for asking

[dusky flume]

Great to hear that!

[sterile valley]

Honestly I think the stuff about Xbox dying is prob doomposting anyway
They been saying that for years now so I've come to just ignore it

[past vortex]

thank you for thanking him

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/floppa-big-floppa-caracal-pumba-pumber-gif-23931271

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-emoji-red-gif-27276389

[dusky flume]

Yeah your right tbh

[dusky flume]

https://tenor.com/view/diagnosis-issue-flop-flop-floppa-bingus-gif-22901732

[nova pivot]

Yes

[past veldt]

That's going on my grave

[midnight salmon]

Is HLL dead yet?

[past veldt]

I haven't lost a match as commander in 2025, and I lost less than 10 in 2024. Probably about 150 matches or so across the two years, exclusively competitive tournaments, scrims, or mixed event matches

I exclusively build strongpoint garrisons

[analog apex]

not yet, but no worries, the devs seem to be doing everything in their power to make it so 😄

[past veldt]

Why? It allows me to spawnbomb my own defensive point for quick capture power, and I also then ensure sector control garrisons are built, and then wider garrisons to retake the sector as needed.

I get the best of both worlds with a strong point garrisons

[cosmic pilot]

only people who hate MG would want this mechanic

you'd get headshot before being able to use it anyway

[prisma fiber]

Well, no

[prisma fiber]

Streaming only

[prisma fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1062625566794190949/1418586807301443685/Ahahahahahha_ahahaha.mp4?ex=693d676a&is=693c15ea&hm=1ca1136d36651d7c6f6c467796248d907656c2c831a602a679ed1457aac08983&

[molten sail]

your life not mine 🦅

[wary lark]

The thing is, there isn’t another game like it on console with the community this has.

HLLV will be its only competition (on console)

[peak torrent]

Damn this new hotfix ruined my performance
The stuttering came back 😂

[runic veldt]

most meta german tank post patch? Tiger still?

[ancient harness]

Nah

[main lance]

https://tenor.com/view/fine-tune-fine-tuning-fine-tuned-copium-walter-white-gif-4796770362564082802

[sterile valley]

Ong
I remember there was a game called Burning Lands or something along those lines that was set for an Xbox release but the dev got outted for being a creep who wasn't paying his devs so it went under

I always thought HLL would be so awesome if it had a Vietnam DLC, insane that it's actually a thing now

[prisma fiber]

pz4

[slate canopy]

Not a DLC. It's a whole new game. Seperate.

[sterile valley]

Ik, I mean I thought a Vietnam DLC would be cool when I was imagining it, not that what's actually happening now is a DLC

[worthy charm]

Set for Release is a huge overstatement over how far Burning lands was.

Also I heard the lead is now in Prision...

[sterile valley]

I mean I remember the dev said it was going to happen when it was done not that it was already right there

Game barely made it past like the very first alpha tests before all that drama went down

[idle orchid]

Yo im banned from every server

help me

[slate canopy]

Community servers? Does is say Barricade ban?

[idle orchid]

It says racism teamkilling and homophobia

might not be all but alot of them

[idle orchid]

does say barricade

what does that mean? have i been collectively exiled from all hell let loose servers

[past vortex]

yes

not quite all, but the good ones :}

[idle orchid]

what can i do

[slate canopy]

Barricade is the program where server owners report someone and up to each server to ban or not. You can contact one of the communities on their discord and appeal.

[umbral osprey]

Are these your favorite things?

[idle orchid]

Theyre up there

i didnt know the community of this game was full of redditors though

[umbral osprey]

Well you may wanna cut it out then

[slate canopy]

🤷‍♀️ Gotta follow the rules if you wanna play. Don't be a jerk, racist, homophobic, etc etc. This isn't COD

[final gale]

Anyone know how to fix the issue where the visual mouse doesn’t line up with what you are actually interacting with?

[vale garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/fiska-fisk-fishing-fish-gif-18328042804461639425

[main lance]

https://tenor.com/view/see-you-soon-matty-matheson-cookin-somethin-crispy-hard-shell-carnitas-tacos-catch-you-later-gif-13217875090252799061

[prisma fiber]

Oh really? I didn't know

[umbral osprey]

Have you tried switching your resolution to something else and back?

[final gale]

Yes

[umbral osprey]

You may have to go change the .ini file

[lavish grove]

how do I report hacker there is 0 info for this

[slate canopy]

On a community or official server?

[lavish grove]

Its a HLL official server

europe #04

everyone is spamming !admin but its been 20 minutes now

[slate canopy]

There are no moderators for official.

https://support.team17.com/hell-let-loose/en/articles/316972-reporting-a-player-on-hell-let-loose

Report them with the instructions here.

Don't share the name - we don't allow witch hunts.

Play on community servers, that's why people do !admin. They have moderators.

[lavish grove]

oh ok

[lavish grove]

So i can only report to steam or playstation? doesnt seem effective is it

[slate canopy]

On Steam, there is no crossplatform. The controller images are for Epic Players or PC Gamepass. Steam is Steam.

🤷‍♀️ That's why we say play on community. They have active mods/admins that can take care of issue players.

I've seen 2 real cheaters ( one being anh aimbot across the map, map just started, everyone dies on my team when we're still like 3 blocks from mid point.).

[lavish grove]

hmm ok yeah this my first one ive seen it was really obvious everyone was dying without any death cause everywhere on the map

[slate canopy]

Yeah 😅 Sorry, we can't do anything here.

[lavish grove]

well thanks for your help

community servers from now on

[slate canopy]

Good luck

[past vortex]

just watch out you dont get banned

:}

[lavish grove]

yeah my brother has noticed you cant talk about skin color

[past vortex]

hahaha

[slate canopy]

Yeaaah don't be using bad language or mean language 😉

[lavish grove]

😂 😔

[delicate mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/smiley-face-burger-king-burger-king-happy-burger-king-whopper-burger-king-racism-gif-935276361237906854

[steady zodiac]

Thanks for your perspective✅

For that to work, it would require more coordination (or a crafty commander like you) than you see on most public servers, and it doesn't really solve the "200 m run-issue" you're left with, if the stronghold garrison gets blocked.

(I tried do draw my preferred garrison placement on a map, but appearently this channel doesn't allow jpeg-uploads 😭 )

[past veldt]

Turn it into a GIF and then you can paste it.

[past veldt]

For sure my methods are more for competitive play, I don't really command any public games. Running 200m is only like a 50s task though, and if you lose the strongpoint but keep the map control, you'll generally be able to recap the point again pretty quickly afterwards

[ornate oyster]

hi, ive run to a problem that server list is loading for like 3-5mins and connection to the server takes about 10
i have i5-9400 and game on SSD

is there anything that i can do?

[umbral osprey]

Sheesh

My first move would be reinstalling it

[worldly mountain]

@worthy charm here we have Scam

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/goofdomens-good-omens-crowley-bildad-the-shuhite-seems-legit-to-me-gif-8974639092982239989

[cerulean iris]

damn shouldnt have pinged anyone was wondering how long it would take

[worthy charm]

Sorry I have a live on the side.

I really should concentrate better on whats important.

[oak current]

A Live? You be streaming?

runs away cackling

[worthy charm]

-# dont tell them that

[oak current]

While playing something "Hey can you quickly go on the discord and ban this one person who disagrees with me? ASAP"

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-anime-omg-wtf-cant-unsee-gif-5159766

[ornate oyster]

so now its authication timed out

tf is with this game?

[orchid tinsel]

Everyother map runs fine, but Smolensk simply grinds to a halt on my PC - it's unplayable.

[undone coyote]

https://steamdb.info/app/822500/
Hell Let Loose: Vietnam is about to be released, but Hell Let Loose hasn't released the server yet.

[river rover]

That's an EasyAntiCheat problem. Usually the service for it.

[prisma fiber]

So that's why I can't stay connected on Linux anymore, U19 broke the EAC compatibility

At this point I'm running out of things T17 didn't break

[grizzled kiln]

I play in Linux and had no issues earlier today

[river rover]

Might have to update the experimental current version. maximvh1 is the Linux person. He can check to see if it did break and can be fixed.

[prisma fiber]

Or SteamOS at least - EACnissues keep dropping the connection

[prisma fiber]

Didn't work

[river rover]

System Date\Time correct?

[prisma fiber]

Yes

The game starts desyncing after like 5 minutes and then "Heartbeat timed out"

Started on 19

[river rover]

Well Lestat isn't seeing the issue. maximvh1 would be only one on our side to be able to see if he sees anything. 🙁

[grizzled kiln]

I can try it now..2s

[river rover]

Have you Re-Verified your files and deleted your cache?

[prisma fiber]

Yes, as well as a full reinstall of the game

[river rover]

Let's see what Lestat sees. He may be able to help. I'm the Windows guy.

[river rover]

Are you able to test with VPN? See if something's up with network or try other form. If ethernet try wifi or vice versa, if you can test hotspot with phone another way if you have wifi. Just some things to test or try for network issues.

[grizzled kiln]

Works fine, no issues.

Unless it's something that appears after a while ? I only tested a couple of minutes

[past vortex]

that was only 3 mins tho

[grizzled kiln]

yeah, as I said 😄

[river rover]

Usually it requires a good 5-10 minutes

[grizzled kiln]

ok, I can do that 😄

[prisma fiber]

I don't use wifi

And it did this on a separate network as well

[river rover]

But the authentication is usually immediate so may not matter. Oh wait yours isn't the authentication issue. 😛

[prisma fiber]

No I get "Heartbeat ran out" which I've read is an EAC thing

Usually a few minutes in

[past vortex]

*might be
its not like anyone solved it, so how would they know

[past vortex]

is this a steamdeck?

al

[prisma fiber]

Yep, been running fine for over a year until U19

[past vortex]

i mean that thing can barly run it

[prisma fiber]

It's been running fine for over a year

Until Update 19

[past vortex]

and both u18 and u19 made performance a bit worse

so totally possible its now just not enough anymore

could be actual timeouts yk

[past vortex]

your definition of fine seems to be odd :}

[prisma fiber]

Ok

[past vortex]

is it on all maps ?

[prisma fiber]

Yes

[past vortex]

or only smolensk

[prisma fiber]

Every map

It's exclusive to Update 19

[past vortex]

could still be anything
from eac bug to network problems
but just not being fast enough is also possible

most people dont notice the small perf degration every update brings, but for weak hardware its totally relevant

[prisma fiber]

the EAC is an an assumption based off what I read, but it was caused from U19

[past vortex]

but really what fps did you get with a steamdeck?

must always have been aweful

[arctic rampart]

Ain't no way it was properly playable

[past vortex]

yea i think so too

[prisma fiber]

Enough for what I use or for, this has nothing to do with new dysyncs and disconnects

[past vortex]

it could totally ave something to do

hll is soooooo bad at cpu usage

[prisma fiber]

Well the performance of the hardware didn't change

This exclusively started with Update19

[past vortex]

wouldnt suprise me if the network times out because cpu stalls

[grizzled kiln]

works fine, played for 20 mins now 😄

[past vortex]

also steamdeck?

[prisma fiber]

Doubt it

[past vortex]

i mean the deck has a low clocked zen2
even a higher clocked zen2 is bad for hll

[prisma fiber]

Ok

Again, it's been running fine for over a year

Until the day U19 dropped

[past vortex]

the whole network code seems to be very bad

they seem to have not very sensible timeouts

[grizzled kiln]

Well he said Linux not steamdeck 😄

I don't have one of those.

[past vortex]

so again, i can see it happen that it until now just barely made it before timeout, now it runs 3% worse and thats just not enough anymore

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/john-krasinski-oh-no-shame-on-you-nah-fail-gif-15679323

Very shameful

[sick bramble]

devs are gonna fix anti aliasing?

[past vortex]

naw

[sick bramble]

its core issue of the game, not even from u18/u19

[past vortex]

not sure what you mean by aa

[sick bramble]

blur graphics, or pixels

[past vortex]

on pc ?

[sick bramble]

on pc

[past vortex]

thats not a usual problem

[sick bramble]

i dont say its terrible, but it could be better

[river rover]

I've heard it worked great on SteamDeck from those that had one. I was surprised but wouldn't blame it. Now mind you that was back when the support became available.

[prisma fiber]

It's works fine enough to drive a tank or reload arty

[past vortex]

those handheld players are really happy when it starts at all :}

[past vortex]

might be your settings, no one else has that problem

[sick bramble]

maybe i should try using dx12

[past vortex]

that doesnt change the looks

check your settings

check render scale
use community aa

[sick bramble]

nevermind, render scale was set at 95%

idk how

[umbral osprey]

The game is pretty rough to look at when you first get to playing yeah

You get used to it

The right AA makes it a lot better but still

[prisma fiber]

Not as bad as Squad 44

Looks super bad AA

[past vortex]

see? @finite berry

[finite berry]

What does AA even stand for lol

[past vortex]

anti aircraft

[finite berry]

Probably not in this context lol

[kind fable]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[slate canopy]

Unless there is some sort of server disconnect that's not bringing that XP across, check this: https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1271344362437214208

[prisma fiber]

Anti Aliasing

[finite berry]

Check, thanks

[idle swan]

is there any way, i can find comunitry discord servers, when they arent mentioned in the name of the server?

[faint portal]

@atomic pendant mentioned this happened to him
I believe the fix was to die just a few times? Not sure if he can confirm or not

[faint portal]

Usually it's in the scrolling text when spawned in on top left or on the spawn screen bottom right side in the text block there

[atomic pendant]

I just redeployed and my hands were gorgeous again

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/hand-gif-8584967

[hazy owl]

You know what I've just had blast playing this game... but that does not mean I will stop trash talking in here

[fleet sonnet]

Where can i report someone speed hacking. hes got a 5000 attack score

[prisma fiber]

Grenade tank flipping exploit exists for years
Very few people know about it
Devs announce a fix out of nowhere
Now everyone knows of its existence
Fix didn't work
People trolling tank crews everywhere

Thank you, T17

Very cool

[finite berry]

I mean, admittedly, you gotta give them credit for trying to fix old legacy bugs that BM apparently couldn't or didn't want to fix

[slow bramble]

firing up on linux now, will let you know in 5 mins if I get kicked

arch btw

[frosty hinge]

With what button do i spaw in on pc

I can select where but not spawn like that it spawns me what button is it

[slow bramble]

deploy in the bottom right?

[frosty hinge]

Doesnt show

Also i cant choose mic input/output device to talk

They made it really easy to find the buttons 👍🏻

[grizzled kiln]

cachyos 🙂 so same

[frosty hinge]

Hey with what button do i spawn in

[slow bramble]

Just messaged you a screen shot

[slow bramble]

Haven't been kicked!

[frosty hinge]

I can hear others but cant activate my own mic i tried reconnecting and connecting, volume adjustmebt, checked if correct device, mute button, still cant hear myself or talk…pls help

[slate canopy]

Official or community server?

[slow bramble]

system settings for the audio device maybe?

Is it working in other apps?

[frosty hinge]

Nope tried that wont work

Works on all other games

[slate canopy]

You talking about on PC or console?

[frosty hinge]

Pc

[slate canopy]

do you have only 1 device for each output and input enabled with all other disabled?

[frosty hinge]

Yes my headset @slate canopy

[slate canopy]

Everything else is disabled? (as in like speakers, monitor, other microphonees, etc)

It would look like this (with more devices below disabled, just didn't want a big screenshot)

[frosty hinge]

Where did u find that

In the game or where

[slate canopy]

In windows.

[frosty hinge]

No its not a problem i play squad i can hear and speak when hell let loose i cant

[slate canopy]

Doesn't matter, HLL doesn't like more than 1 device enabled.

[frosty hinge]

But i have input and output the same my headset!

[slate canopy]

Right click your sound in the bottom right. Open 'Sound Settings'. Advanced -> All Sound Devices. Make sure when playing HLL that only the headset is enabled, all other disabled.

[frosty hinge]

In windows?

[slate canopy]

(I have only 1 enabled anyway in case my audio decides to randomly switch to VR when I'm not in my VR headset)

Correct.

[frosty hinge]

Ok i will test

Yes it says 2 devices on input and 3 on output! @slate canopy

What do I do now

Deactivate all except headset? Right

[slate canopy]

just disable, not deactivate.

[frosty hinge]

Oh

There is no disable button only not allow (deavtivate)

[past vortex]

i dont think there is any difference between disble and deactivate

[frosty hinge]

Oh okay well i deactivated all except headset and it will not work still

[slate canopy]

Did you restart the game?

[frosty hinge]

Idk bro i dont know anything

Now when i test my headset it wont Play my voice

I think i dont know man but thank you for the help and effort have a great week

[slate canopy]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1271765113040408606

Always this 🤷‍♀️

Usually the whole more than 1 device is usually the bad issue. May need to restart game for it to work properly.

[frosty hinge]

I did that 3 times

[frosty hinge]

It says ,,unknown,,

[slate canopy]

It's a link. It works.

[frosty hinge]

It says unknow for me @slate canopy

It will not work but thank you

[slate canopy]

Just click it. Discord is dumb.

[nova pivot]

Please stay respectful

[uneven path]

does anyone know the best way to get class xp?

[slate canopy]

Build nodes as engineer, switch to whatever class you want to level up. As long as those nodes stay up, they give passive XP.

[uneven path]

do you know how long it takes to get a class to level 10?

[nova pivot]

A lot

Just play and don't think about it

[smoky willow]

Do y'all be gaming cus I'm tryna find a community that I can play hell let loose with cus its a cool game just none of my friends play it

[slate canopy]

All PC communities post in #1343090646168240199 if you're interested.

[smoky willow]

ight bet

appreciate you family

[past veldt]

153,000 XP

[wind shore]

did anyone else randomly get every cosmetic and now the hints re show every time u try to play

[pale vapor]

hll vietnam needs:

1. Slight Head bob or something cause the floating runnin is gettin stupid

2. Completely take away whatever brown filter is on the map. Just get rid of the entire thing. Vietnam green only

3. Raise sounds of guns

[slate canopy]

I don't want a slight head bob 😒 Sometimes that's super annoying and slightly disorienting.

[pale vapor]

when i play hll and im running it pretty much feels like im watching static still picture lol

[wind shore]

anyone

[pale vapor]

i think arma does headbob good it aint big

[past vortex]

use freelook to make running as seasickness inducing as you like

[slate canopy]

I always forget freelook is there until someone mentions it 😵‍💫

[pale vapor]

How about add a toggle for people who want it? That would make everyone happy

[past vortex]

its actually useful sometime

[slate canopy]

Not sure what you mean by randomly get cosmetics, but the hints are in the Gameplay -> HUD settings.

[pale vapor]

i get non motion sickness from staring at the static pic lol

[wind shore]

i got literally every cosmetic out of nowhere besides the dlc and the hints enable themselves now

[past vortex]

he is not the first to have all dlcs unlocked by bug

oh not the dlcs

now thats strange

[wind shore]

i mean im not complaining but the hints bug is annoying

the cosmetics is good

[pale vapor]

anyone kno if we going to be able to actually see our feet in vietnam

[slate canopy]

No clue. Not a lot of information out there.

[viscid cobalt]

chat did the devs fix the hit reg yet

[lone tangle]

the 'you are kicked due to high ping' now appear more often huh

kinda annoying when on your whole continent theres no other active server anymore

[unique kettle]

hello everyone my name is max and im a fan of ww2 history and i play Hell Let Loose.

[arctic rampart]

'ello there lil' cutie pie

https://tenor.com/bVWoA.gif

[livid verge]

the STG44 can be so STUPIDLY BAD

[delicate mortar]

Nah, just dont take it in open field maps like Kursk.

[livid verge]

dont mind me

skillissue sometimes

such a great weapon most of the times

[delicate mortar]

It do be like that sometimes

[livid verge]

i love infiltrating the enemy alone, killing 10 guys and destroying 3OPs and 1Garry

[delicate mortar]

That's where AR excels.
Less than 100m engagements.

[livid verge]

I can easilly snipe enemys 200m away

thats where most of my headshots land

then I get smth like:
farest kill 195m
farest headshot 195m

4 kills in under 30 sec

rn

messing with a light tank xD

YES!!!!! LVL VI

FINALLYYYYYYYYY

[marsh dawn]

Guys, my dad is an administrator on my PC. Do I need any PIN-CODE from the administrator to launch Hell Let Loose?

[livid verge]

idk but I just flanked 2 squads with my FG42

[candid mason]

Question:: I am Russian fighting in Smolensk and I see a blue dot guy wearing a dark black uniform wearing a black British helmet. Who in the HLL is this guy? ?

[livid verge]

is there a green or blue circel abov him?

[candid mason]

blue dot

[livid verge]

then it's a speed bump with weapon

[candid mason]

what?

[arctic rampart]

If the game's set to run as admin, then yes. Or you launched steam with admin iirc

[candid mason]

I first thought Soviet Marine but why the Brit Tin Hat

[arctic rampart]

But if you need your dad to set your pc's admin perms, chances are you're too young to play the game 🙂 or maybe even use Discord

[livid verge]

лежачий полицейский (google translator)

[marsh dawn]

Oh nah, he set himself as admin cuz i downloaded too many mods for Assetto Corsa...

[marsh dawn]

Where can i check if it is set to run as admin?

[arctic rampart]

Well try to run it kek

[candid mason]

Is there anyone in Discord actually know HLL ?

[livid verge]

me

[arctic rampart]

What do you mean by such a question?

[candid mason]

I ask a serious question and get a smartass reply

As a Russian soldier I saw a teammate with a blue dot dressed in black uniform and black British Helmet. Who in HLL is this guy?

[livid verge]

you can change your avatars look

[thin scarab]

You know you can have a Look at the uniforms Right in the menus?

[candid mason]

I know no one in the Soviet army that wore black British helmets.

[livid verge]

my farest kills are always headshots

[thin scarab]

Its a Game. Calm down

[candid mason]

You are right. But why not introduce Naked Celtic Berzerker warriors?

[thin scarab]

Why Would you?

[livid verge]

imma main Medic now

[thin scarab]

You really gonna cry about a Helmet? Believe me this Game has bigger problems then a helmet

[candid mason]

I know the bigger problems. One question I have is why is it that Level wise I am in top 20% and combat wise I am in bottom 10% ??

[thin scarab]

What you say doesnt make Sense…

[candid mason]

of all the players in the game my Level of 137 is usually in the top 20% of players, My combat score usually under 20 is one of the lowest of all the players.

I am slow and an idiot at times but really/

[thin scarab]

Build nodes, win gunfights, drop supps etc… and you het higher combat Score

Everything in this Game nowadays gives you CS

[candid mason]

sometimes I can take down an enemy OP or garry or supplies. But I have to survive for 7 minutes to do that. Usually shot by invisible enemy.

[thin scarab]

Invisible Player? You mean a player in Cover…

Just Play smart. And sometimes wait a litte longer and Look for any movement.

If you Need to wait 7 min i think because of No garrys then be the Player that build garrys. Take a sup truck and Build.

[novel geyser]

The brodie for soviets is dlc likely based off of some lend leased helmets, i haven't found any pictures myself of soviets with brodies but it's possible they had some atleast for rear troops or malitias
The black uniform I assume you're talking about the marine one, weird combo but that's hll for you

Actually wait it is based off of a soviet made helmet i think
It's in the cosmetic name
1941 Model Blockaded Leningrad Helmet

[livid verge]

I found a bug

where do I report?

[arctic rampart]

There's an official bug report section on the website

[livid verge]

where

[nova pivot]

Skill issue lol

[livid verge]

where i find?

cant I report here, on the dc server?

[arctic rampart]

https://support.team17.com/hell-let-loose/en/articles/316996-bug-reports

[livid verge]

thy

and wehere do I report a flying tree?

[nova pivot]

Yes it was an improvised design that was produced inside the city because of the lack of standard helmets, was issued to militias and civilians I couldn't find anything about it being issued to conventional army units

[keen glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1301526804456276048/1311675189267796029/togif.gif

[wind shore]

I love that my hell let loose keeps just closing when i try to enter a server

[arctic rampart]

Last I heard, mentioning a game issue in discord doesn't fix the game issue

[tribal steppe]

HLL hard crashed my pc last night, had to restart it with the old buttonaroo

Which triggered a windows update and restarted itself 3 more times causing my racing wheel to spaz out and hit me in the arm repeatedly... The physical AI attack has already begun...

Anyway question from someone who's been away from HLL for a couple years... WTF have they done to the character model faces? The new ones look abysmal. Like really really bad.

The old ones are still there and look fine like before, but the new ones look way too sharp, with gaunt faces and sunken eyes.

https://tenor.com/view/always-nice-to-chat-good-talk-nice-chat-good-chat-nice-to-talk-to-you-gif-17046997

[livid verge]

POV running 4 kilometers just to be shot in the head as an officer, right before putting an OP

again

[worthy charm]

4km? Where the fck did you go?

The map in only 2km in length

[livid verge]

i may overreacted a littel

[novel geyser]

Yeah probably wasn't used by the actual army for frontline fighting unless they ran into bad supply issues
From what I saw when looking it up briefly it was just for malitia and like anti air gun operators likely defending cities and stuff away from the front line

[novel geyser]

Circle

[worthy charm]

That are either a lot of circles or a very big one

But im to lazy to do the math

[novel geyser]

Circle

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/listen-here-you-little-meme-you-little-shit-damn-you-damn-it-chicken-kiev-gif-25718782

[livid verge]

I walked in this match more than in my entier life

[nova pivot]

Stay respectful please

[novel geyser]

Be nice dont swear willes

[worthy charm]

Neva

and always

[novel geyser]

💔

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/dissapointed-im-keyscape-gif-20620300

[arctic rampart]

Bruh. Just tried to group up to play with some rando that said he's looking to group

I message the guy and invite him to me and the boys dc, but he can't join cause he's not even 18 xD We don't want no kids in the comms

I check his bio "esports player manager and advisor" AHAHAHHAHAHA

[livid verge]

Never ever shoot medics if they dont have a weapon

it would make this class so much more fun to play

[umbral osprey]

He's a prodigy, don't be a hater lol

[umbral osprey]

That would be fun actually, if you get like 2 seconds extra on your redeploy if you shot an unarmed medic

[livid verge]

2? you mean 5

there are not many medics

or 4

[umbral osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/unbalance-weighing-options-so-so-not-so-sure-seth-meyers-gif-14148005

It's so hard to see in this game sometimes though

[livid verge]

I made a suggestion. #1449752906776711198

[umbral osprey]

Agreed, they should be more clearly visible

That also paints a target on them but that's part of the fun

You weigh the cost to benefit

[livid verge]

https://tenor.com/view/lego-lego-ninjago-ninjago-sensei-wu-wu-gif-11256352134333665323

im such a good medic

you should be abel to give morphium to yourselfe

[umbral osprey]

They could tie the different medic outfits to different levels of time punishment

I'm imagining 4 medics walking in front of other soldiers to protect them from getting shot as they slowly advance haha

[umbral osprey]

Oooo maybe

[livid verge]

those kills would be worth the extra deply time

[umbral osprey]

But then they should also make it that the medic can be killed by getting shot again or something I guess

[umbral osprey]

Yeah

[livid verge]

this works with all knocked out peole

[umbral osprey]

No unfortunately not

Only if you grenade them

[livid verge]

with grenads

yeah, im stupid sometimes

imagine the enemy can hear you talking on open vc

[umbral osprey]

Or maybe they shouldn't let the medic revive themself but let them fire a pistol while they're down

[livid verge]

if they can shoot, they can morph

[umbral osprey]

Yeah but it's a game so you have to consider what actually works gameplay wise

[novel geyser]

If you kill a medic the game should lock you in place and force you to read a 5 paragraph essay on the importance of the red cross, why they are protected and why you should feel bad for committing a war crime with pictures of sad looking animals

[livid verge]

but it's realistic

[umbral osprey]

Then we should let everyone fire a pistol while they're down too ya know

Can't be that committed to realism

[livid verge]

yeah

tho you cant shoot your rifel with a broken arm

[novel geyser]

You know what else is realistic?
Horses 🐎

[livid verge]

we need Archimedes

https://tenor.com/view/medic-tf2-archimedes-medicmybeloved-gif-22766595

make your head tilt the way you died when you die

not only into the sky

[umbral osprey]

A pistol you could so maybe that could be a thing if they make the pistol firing inaccurate to match your injured condition

[livid verge]

rip rifleman

[umbral osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/band-of-brothers-hats-off-medic-cry-gif-11848227

[livid verge]

can AT shoot with their AT weapon then?

[umbral osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/blow-blow-head-off-break-beat-hit-gif-12244222

Yes

[livid verge]

xD

[livid verge]

thats literally me every time I face a sherman

but he destroys me

[umbral osprey]

We really need that realism

Hey. What do you feel is missing?

[livid verge]

STG44 is good

there arent any bad weapons

[past vortex]

lol

ofc not

[livid verge]

is the first weapon for Automatic Rifleman

i mainly used AR and now Medic

[past vortex]

kills shouldnt your main concern as officer tho

the semi autos are ofc very good

so why do you ask

[livid verge]

the job of AR is to hunt for garry or OP

[past vortex]

nawfor US you want lvl 6

semi

also russia

even germany situationally

you want even higher level for the clothes tho :}

[livid verge]

AR

[past vortex]

officer isnt meant to be a killer

its ok if you have time, but there is a lot of stuff to do

marking all the things your squad sees

telling your squad everything you learned in command chat

building garries

:D

then play some good fps

not hll

hll without talking is really bad

squadlead who isnt talking in commandchat should be kicked

[livid verge]

Play AR. Nobody expects anything from you and you are a complete killer machine

in random matches

why

why

what?

most of the others are ok

This was my first main

do what you want

tho your are most effective in enemy teretory destroying OP and Garrys

eh

the opposite

200m is the maximum effective range

well it isnt cuz this thing is a damn sniper

dont think the FG42 is better even if it seems like it

both are good and bad in their own way

?

new Tank ammo?

bad weapon

I know so

spreads way to much

i dont like officers guns

NCO-what

rifle, hand gun or AR

cuz it is the same weapon

tho worse than the STG44

AR?

it's ok

[novel geyser]

What faction

[livid verge]

I play germany

[novel geyser]

I mean what faction are they talking about when going on about the nco loadout

Thats an officer loadout isn't it?

[livid verge]

idk

[novel geyser]

[faint glacier]

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

[tired matrix]

Algún servidor de latinos para jugar q recomienden ?

[livid verge]

Tell them players how to change their voicechat

it's horrible when they dont know

i didnt know, until now

[slate canopy]

.... Change their voice chat?

Well we cannot control that 😅

Report them to their platform or to the community discord if you are on the community servers.

We are just discord mods.

Only community servers have them. Not official.

If it says Official HLL, it's official. Otherwise it's a community server.

[sturdy quarry]

does anyone have any experience using g-sync with HLL? does it make shooting feel off or is it fine

[dim snow]

Please be respectful.

[slate canopy]

k

[past vortex]

:D

[livid verge]

Top 10 things I hate about HLL

10: ''you've beec kicked cuz of hig ping acivitys''
9:''you've beec kicked cuz of hig ping acivitys''
8:''you've beec kicked cuz of hig ping acivitys''
7:''you've beec kicked cuz of hig ping acivitys''
6:''you've beec kicked cuz of hig ping acivitys''
5:''you've beec kicked cuz of hig ping acivitys''
4:''you've beec kicked cuz of hig ping acivitys''
3:''you've beec kicked cuz of hig ping acivitys''
2:''you've beec kicked cuz of hig ping acivitys''
1:''you've beec kicked cuz of hig ping acivitys''

the heck?

sorry but why are you mad at me now?

only cuz you arent good at the game, doesnt mean you have to be rude

[finite berry]

*automatic rifleman is the worst thing ever

[livid verge]

because it is, if you know how to play it

you are just not good

not everyone has to be pro in every role. it's ok to be bad at some things

this would literally happen with every other class 2

why not

cuz you can set your respawnpoints?

then every class has to be aids exept officer

then you are just bad at hell let loose

just the truth

this officer gun is horrible

it spreads more than a shotgun

what lvl in HLL are you?

im 48

[gray lagoon]

I might be wrong but to me the carbine feels worse than the garand, which is given to most roles

For the germans, level 1 AR gets one of the best guns

[livid verge]

jay just dont want to admit that he is bad

[gray lagoon]

I personally really suck at shooters so I like to use the support role

[livid verge]

im lucky XD

[gray lagoon]

But unlike the submachine guns, it only takes one or two hit shots to kill

[livid verge]

pray that there are no mods around here jay

☝️ 🤓 carabiner has way more recoil

[gray lagoon]

carabiner is the german bolt action rifle

[livid verge]

still worse thatn STG44

[finite berry]

It's Karabiner

[livid verge]

in german, yes

[finite berry]

And in English it's carbine

[livid verge]

ohh

that makes sense

[finite berry]

Karabiner = carbine
Gewehr = rifle

[livid verge]

you would've also wiped them with stg44

easilly

[gray lagoon]

The trench gun and flamethrower is also pretty good at that role

[livid verge]

do you have a brain?

[finite berry]

German AR, I think

[livid verge]

yes, german AR

[gray lagoon]

And assault if you have high enough level

[livid verge]

Assault at lvl 9 has stg44 too

same stupid gun, same stupid recoil

[worthy charm]

As if HLL guns actually have recoil

[livid verge]

cuz you cant handel it

[worthy charm]

lmao

[livid verge]

fr tho

[worthy charm]

This game has better laser guns than any star wars game

[livid verge]

not with the stg44

[slate canopy]

Be nice folks. 😅

[gloomy quartz]

who r u?

cause this was a legendary read

[livid verge]

sb that crys over one of the best weapons in HLL, cuz he doesnt know how to play it

some people just have to be blocked bruh

I can read your messages smart guy

[gloomy quartz]

yeah right!

Talk the talk but cant walk the walk

[livid verge]

@worthy charm i dont like how Jay talks about me >:/

https://tenor.com/view/loufy42-light-yagami-death-note-gif-15248803

Just keep talking Jay

[slate canopy]

Enough. Be nice.

[livid verge]

https://tenor.com/view/death-note-kira-anime-light-laugh-gif-22099540

He will get what he deserved

[slate canopy]

You knock it off too 😒

[livid verge]

I dont like that behaviour of him

Is Jay's real username deleted_user...?

[glossy palm]

anyone else with connection time outs to the main menu?

[ancient harness]

Most players since U18

I got kicked out yesterday after a 1:13 hour long match

[livid verge]

FG42 has to few ammo packs

[finite berry]

FG 42 should go afuera

[past vortex]

its kinda good with the bipod now
still not enough ammo ofc

[nova pivot]

Why are you using Spanish?

Without asking me for permission?

https://tenor.com/view/angry-thiago-mad-angry-fist-emoji-gif-17761307

[finite berry]

I don't need it :)

[finite berry]

Törken

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-thiago-mad-angry-fist-emoji-gif-17761307

[worthy charm]

Thats spanish

:}

[nova pivot]

William

[worthy charm]

Thats not my name

but yea?

[nova pivot]

It is

Because I say it is

William

[livid verge]

where do I report a flying tree?

[cosmic pilot]

smile when you say that

[nova pivot]

Don't bother

[livid verge]

oh :(

[cosmic pilot]

motion is relative

[livid verge]

what? ._.

[cosmic pilot]

it's equally valid, from the perspective of the tree, to say that you were the one flying

hacker

[livid verge]

William: Michael! Dont leave me here Michael!

[slate canopy]

#1445732994269712505 with screenshots.

[livid verge]

yay thx

[glossy palm]

I have to wait 60 Minutes that I can reconnect again.

[agile basin]

So what do logistics do in this game? I ask because I legit can’t tell, it’s not like squad which makes the answer to that question EXTREMELY apparent

Same thing? Magazines and ability to build?

…wait is it that they reversed the system from Squad? Fixed amount of mags, but spawns are a resource you can gain and lose?

[prisma fiber]

There is nothing in this game called "logistics"

What are you talking about?

[gray lagoon]

Logistics is delivering supplies via a supply truck or support player to build garrisons or barricades

[prisma fiber]

I don't play squad so idk how that all works

[worthy charm]

Something that the supply slave commander usually does :}

[prisma fiber]

The question doesn't really make sense

[gray lagoon]

When you spawn, you have a certain number of magazines and you can refill them using an explosive ammo box. When you spawn in your team loses one manpower, but it really doesn't matter to anyone but the commander because if you run out of manpower people can still spawn

[prisma fiber]

Ammo ammo box*

[gray lagoon]

oops

[prisma fiber]

I don't think there's anything mag-fed that uses explosive ammo

[agile basin]

And why does it matter to the commander? What are those three resources good for?

[gray lagoon]

He can use them to spawn airheads (spawnpoints dropped from the air), reinforce points which increased the defending power of players in the strong point, encourage which increases the production of nodes, and dismantle friendly garrisons.

There are lots of other abilities that use munitions and fuel but they aren't affected by players dying

[agile basin]

Okay so in essence, the reason we the players see none of it is because they’re all costs for the commander, and NOT for us. Thats why we build things like resource nodes

[gray lagoon]

Yes, but if you open the maps the resources are visible at the top.

A very easy way to earn alot of xp is to build nodes as an engineer and then switch to whatever role you want to earn xp for.

[agile basin]

I assume capturing points also gives you resources right

[stuck notch]

Why does xbox players keep randomly crashing after these last 2 updates

[prisma fiber]

No

[gray lagoon]

No, the commander gets 30 of each resource plus 10 (20 with encouraged) or each resource per node.

[nova pivot]

The game is cooked

Let it die already

[gray lagoon]

This game is far from dead

[nova pivot]

If T17 doesn't want to fix it, then kill it

[nova pivot]

I know I play it

But if they have no plans on fixing it why don't they execute it?

[gray lagoon]

The PC branch works perfectly well, but that doesn't halp the council players

[nova pivot]

Well if you say so

[gray lagoon]

When did they say they won't fix it? They have been releasing many hotfixes

[nova pivot]

Jajaja

[peak torrent]

I play engineer but most of the time I don't have resources to build and no one bring resources most of the time how do i get resources from base ?

[nova pivot]

"hotfixes"

They weren't hot and not even fixes

[gray lagoon]

Try using a supply truck and driving a few rows over so you can drop the supplies

[nova pivot]

The last one did literally nothing

[nova pivot]

If you have an empty truck drive it near one of the cranes at the hq

[peak torrent]

Ok ik about supply truck but i don't even see one in base

[slate canopy]

You can always switch between support and engineer too.

[peak torrent]

Ah kk thanks

[gray lagoon]

Wir sprechen jetzt deutsch?

[nova pivot]

Ask your sl to ask the commander for a supply truck

[nova pivot]

Nein, spanien mein freuder

[peak torrent]

Thanks

[agile basin]

What’s with miserable pricks like you? Is there ever a single multiplayer game you’ll actually be happy with

[slate canopy]

Let's be nice 😅 Technically, everyone is entitled to their opinion of the game.

[worthy charm]

You cant even write that correctly

1/10

[nova pivot]

Jajaja

I only play hell let loose

[prisma fiber]

I'd agree but I just lost connection to host again 5 mins ago

30 mins before that

BuT iT wOrKs FiNe FoR mE!

[nova pivot]

It's okay polar bear I can defend myself

Thanks anyway ❤️

[slate canopy]

We also don't need an argument in here.

[gray lagoon]

Its only the ones who are upset with the game who voice their opinions. There are more people who like the updates who do not say anything than the vocal people who dislike it.

[nova pivot]

I'm not going to argue I'm going to explain kindly to this good sir why I think what I think

[worthy charm]

I mean... there are reasons the community is as bitter as they are, but I agree people mostly come here when they are new or mad after an update.

[nova pivot]

That is not the case for me

[worthy charm]

With some exception sprinkled in between.

[nova pivot]

I'm here everyday

And I recognise the good things

[gray lagoon]

But if you were happy with the game, you wouldn't be telling everyone about it.

[nova pivot]

Would you?

[worthy charm]

As we would say in germany,The exception proves the rule

[gray lagoon]

I guess I do like the updates and do post in here about it.

[nova pivot]

As we would say in Spanish: I'm the exception that proves the rule

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-thiago-mad-angry-fist-emoji-gif-17761307

xD

[nova pivot]

Torken

[worthy charm]

Sometimes I ask myself how modding in other servers has to be...

For example in the Larian discord

[nova pivot]

Here is amazing, you have me

[worthy charm]

cough cough

[nova pivot]

And I know polarbear likes me too

She is just being professional

[worthy charm]

Only when we talk about everything but the actual game of the discord. xD

[nova pivot]

Based

[gray lagoon]

Die Moderatorin sind nicht so freundlichen als dieser server

[nova pivot]

Don't get me wrong @gray lagoon, your PFP goes hard and I respect that. I love the game it's the only thing I play, but in consoles it is literally unplayable, constant stuttering frame drops, the game now looks like a 2003 game, awful hit reg...

I would say good things if the bad things wouldn't outshadow the good ones

Yeah they added a solid map but they destroyed the rest of the game