mess-hall

[runic gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-4-kiryu-kazuma-shun-akiyama-taiga-saejima-persona-4-gif-3002326454633638042

[worthy charm]

Controllers mentioned

This chat

[runic gorge]

whens the yakuza update for hll

[nova pivot]

In the Pacific update

[runic gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kazuma-kiryu-pissed-off-gif-14586175

[novel geyser]

I still think it would be really funny if they ever did add the japanese it would be the invasion of china or exclusively japan vs the brits and they never touch the island hopping campaign with the US

or better yet japanese vs soviets

[bold gale]

Genshin Impact theatre

[vestal nimbus]

you can put whole of iwo jima in one map

[nova pivot]

I would prefer that over the same US battles

[runic gorge]

saipan would be cool

[novel geyser]

unironically I would too

[vestal nimbus]

tarawa

crazy battle '

[cosmic pilot]

I imagine HLLII doesn't have the same ring to it.

[main harness]

So pte is coming out just before office quitting time again?

[runic gorge]

no idea

[nova pivot]

Next week

They have delayed it

Again

[novel geyser]

its nearly 3 oclock here in blighty, still a bit off office closing I imagine

[runic gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-like-a-dragon-gaiden-kiryu-kazuma-gif-12928426196326767859

[main harness]

I will accept a delay but only if it is because they are adding horses

[cosmic pilot]

Work from home 🤓

[nova pivot]

I don't think so

🥺

[novel mantle]

finally, spgs

[cedar ore]

excited for the test

[novel mantle]

But what's the kv-2 doing there? what an odd choice

[cedar ore]

actually gonna do it this time cause its so much easier than downloading the game a second time lol

[cedar ore]

its the funny tank

[fringe hollow]

I can't wait for my 152mm KV-2 shell to be stopped by a small sapling

[nova pivot]

Yeah

[runic gorge]

i lowkey wanna know what the new uniforms are for the update

[nova pivot]

I guess it looks cool

[bold gale]

Formally assault gun...

[nova pivot]

Me too I love spending my money in virtual clothes

[runic gorge]

i just like to see what they add tbh

[nova pivot]

You need to look good everywhere even in the battlefield

[novel mantle]

They're gonna have the buff the hell out of the kv-2

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/mariah-carey-gif-4432461583915056309

[nova pivot]

The reload took ages

[summer prairie]

Is pte up??

[harsh egret]

Reinventing the wheel in this game and reworking all the mechanics at the end of its life is crazy work.

[nova pivot]

Nah

[novel mantle]

Turret traverse and elevation slow asf

[nova pivot]

Come back next week

[novel geyser]

I only stick around HLL for the virtual dressup tbh

[wind shore]

when pte

[nova pivot]

Next week

[summer prairie]

why hll coyping gta 6\

[novel mantle]

but they couldn't choose a different spg instead of the kv-2?

like the su-76, su-122, su-152 etc

[nova pivot]

They chose that one because it's the most famous

[fringe hollow]

SU152 would have been quite nice since germans get the Brumbar

[novel mantle]

debateable

[fringe hollow]

But the american's have no casemates so it would again be unbalanced

[nova pivot]

Which one do you think is more famous?

[novel geyser]

tiger

[novel mantle]

anyone who knows the su 152 knows the kv-2 and vise versa

[nova pivot]

From a 0 history knowledge perspective

[novel geyser]

tiger

[bold gale]

https://tenor.com/view/wtm-war-thunder-war-thunder-mobile-crew-knocked-out-high-explosive-gif-8990527913010338701

[fringe hollow]

kv2 definitely more well known between the average person

[novel mantle]

from a 0 history perspective they don't know either

[nova pivot]

I mean russian big boom bringers

[novel geyser]

tiger

[novel mantle]

I knew about the su 152 before I knew about the kv-2

I only learned about the kv-2 because of war thunder

[nova pivot]

Is better for balancing too

Not really

[glossy echo]

Same

[runic gorge]

pte never

[nova pivot]

They fight against the brummbär

[novel mantle]

from a history perspective, the su 152 is far more famous

[nova pivot]

I don't know, I will never understand this devs

[novel geyser]

Ben is online, who is going to be the blood sacrifice and ping him for ETA

[vestal nimbus]

brummbar only saw action like 3x

[fringe hollow]

turreted SPG because the germans get two heavies while soviets only one?

wrong reply, sorry

[glossy echo]

I don't wanna ping him too much

[novel mantle]

well maybe the soviets will get another heavy in the future

They are the newer faction

[fringe hollow]

KV-1 would be pretty cool ngl

hopefully the GOOD kv-1, not the 75

[nova pivot]

Give me a T-28

[novel mantle]

kv-1 would suck though

We don't have a 1941 scenario

[vestal nimbus]

konings tiger

[bold gale]

For two squads of tankmen

[finite berry]

The point here is that when you buy a game that has a plethora of offline features (a campaign, gamemodes against bots) and also some online features, you don't buy a right to play the online features for an indefinite amount of time. You buy a copy of the game. So, when those online services get shut down, you can still play the game with all of its offline services. So, a game is not "dead" when its online services get shut down; and even if the game is 100% online, you still own the copy, so nothing gets taken away from you from the aspect of the contract you signed when buying the game initially. It only makes sense for companies to shut down online services at some point when it's not worth for them anymore from a financial point of view. Again, you buy a copy of the game, not the right to play it indefinitely.

[fringe hollow]

even if we did, there would still be 1945 tech in the game because we don't have time specific gameplay

[nova pivot]

👍

[novel mantle]

but they try to keep it accurate

[nova pivot]

Nah

[novel mantle]

like tobruk, even though it's not as accuarte (cough luchs cough), it could be worse

[vestal nimbus]

mg42s in northafrica but no uniform choice lol

[nova pivot]

Don't forget the puma

[bold gale]

I think that Luch in Africa is a bigger problem

[fringe hollow]

somewhat but there are plenty of places with maps having the wrong tech for the time

[novel geyser]

this is why we need more subfactions

[nova pivot]

At least fix the ones we currently have

[novel geyser]

ya

[bold gale]

ROA

[novel mantle]

yes but it could be worse

The devs won't put a tiger/panther in a 1941 map

[fringe hollow]

yeah, it could be warthunder

[novel geyser]

eastern front germans
US/Ger/Brit Paratroopers

[nova pivot]

There is a destroyed 76 in el alamein

[vestal nimbus]

there is absolutly no accurate record of tiger tanks in contact with us troops in france execpt for north africa

[novel mantle]

that's a prop

[fringe hollow]

it's still in el alamein tho

[nova pivot]

A innacurate prop

[novel mantle]

and seems like they forgot about it

someone made a mistake and they dont know about it

[silk igloo]

armoured cars should be removed as pointless detractors that only increase dev time

[fringe hollow]

I would be fine with an entire update dedicated to making every map's tech (weapons, vics, etc) accurate even if it's unfair so we can show people why historical accuracy isn't always best

[novel geyser]

I think the guideline should be more about reasonable exceptions, like US troops could in some situation encounter a tiger in normandy, since tiger tanks existed then, but no soviets would come up against a tiger in stalingrad since they simply weren't around then

[novel mantle]

Squad 44 did their tanks the best, no question about it

I hate how HLL did theirs

[fringe hollow]

S44 also has much better sound quality tbh

[vestal nimbus]

yeah i agree though its one of the biggetst misconception about normany

[novel mantle]

See how S44 made their tanks, they can pretty much make whatever, light, armoured, med, etc

without having to worry about HLL's tank balancing

[glossy echo]

Seems like we wont be getting pte

[vestal nimbus]

they should have 50 v 50 tank mode on krursk lol

[winged mulch]

they said they'll start a test branch today - anyone managed to play on it yet?

[novel mantle]

S44, yes please!

[nova pivot]

In all maps

[fringe hollow]

adding a modular system would seriously change the entire way the tanks play in game. Comp already hate when clear exploits are patched out, they would straight up quit if that happened

[nova pivot]

A tank gamemode

[fluid pawn]

It's not live yet

Just getting the build sorted and will ping @ everyone in telegrams once live dw

[nova pivot]

Give us an hour please my good sir

[winged mulch]

do you know +/- ETA by any chance?

[fluid pawn]

In the whole team meeting now. 2 secs lmk check

[fringe hollow]

glad I don't work today, means I can wait until it comes out tomorrow

[worthy charm]

Oh great ben, i will gift you my first born child. Just give me the test please!!!

[vestal nimbus]

you guys all play on PC?

[bright sapphire]

No a ty

[fluid pawn]

Aiming for <t:1762790400:t>. Just making sure that we have servers availble for you all 🙂

[winged mulch]

copy that, thanks mate

[bright sapphire]

Ok ty :)

[nova pivot]

No

[vestal nimbus]

cool i'm via ps5

[nova pivot]

Same

No way of playing the pte

[novel mantle]

will you guys completely remake the tank system and actually make it realistic like in Squad 44?

[analog helm]

so we get to test the new map today ?

and the overwhelming quantity of artillery ? Cant wait 😎

[vestal nimbus]

is test avalible to everyone?

[past vortex]

steam only

[delicate mortar]

The point is to make available alternative when it's not financially available for the company to run the servers (make available binaries is one solution)

[teal drift]

4.7 gb update client hll 👀

[nova pivot]

Not to you

[lime umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[nova pivot]

It is not disponible on console

[analog helm]

where

[teal drift]

steam

m38 helmet with cover 😍 thx devs

[runic gorge]

they finally added it?

[cosmic pilot]

In Soviet Russia, fence stops you

[finite berry]

Cool, can we have it now?

[silk igloo]

what's the password for the servers bennnnn

[cosmic pilot]

Speak truth to power ✊

[neat urchin]

Where

[teal drift]

yes

[runic gorge]

oh huh, got a pic?

[summer prairie]

Is pte coming next month???

[novel geyser]

30 mins until testing

[analog helm]

so can i download the test branch rn fam ?

[broken pine]

Wtf is wrong with Alfred's face?

[novel geyser]

Its a beta branch of the base game rather than the PTE

[silk igloo]

they got at least 7 people online testing stuff. the password isnt Ben or 1111 or 0000

[teal drift]

reworked , idk but good for me

[novel geyser]

How to get to the test branch ^

[bold gale]

Kedo

[silk igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[broken pine]

I'll miss the good old Alfred boy.

[novel geyser]

so many kedo like characters in this server

[fringe hollow]

See Ben saying 11

[worthy charm]

Deinstall System 32

[bold gale]

It's me fr fr

[novel geyser]

Im Kedo!

[past vortex]

oh look, the kedos

[bold gale]

No, me... I'm Russian too!

[silk igloo]

funny, the old HLL icon is still left in some places they forgot to swap

[runic gorge]

i miss the old icon

[novel geyser]

remember when people were really salty they changed it aah good times

[worthy charm]

drafting ban of an alt account

[novel geyser]

NOOOOOO NOOOO NOONONONO

😭

[fringe hollow]

I'd pay to watch him just disappear

scraping the barrel from hoi4

they will send you too

[silk igloo]

dont worry, the definition can always be changed

[bold gale]

For every Kedo that falls, ten more will take his place

[silk igloo]

hey, there's a server up without a password

FATAL ERROR

[fringe hollow]

heil kedo?

[novel geyser]

I'd hope not 🤨
but what does that have to do with the draft

I can think of worse things to put on a pizza tbh

[runic gorge]

new skins kinda cool

[vestal nimbus]

yes

[novel geyser]

camos are skins

[nova pivot]

Can someone send me some pictures please?

[vestal nimbus]

i havent seen them yet

[runic gorge]

what channel can u send pics

[nova pivot]

Feet

[bold gale]

Correct it to "boys in maid dress"

[nova pivot]

I already have of those 😉

[bold gale]

😈

[runic gorge]

i like the new german tanker outfit

[novel geyser]

where are you seeing this new outfits, just on the menu for the test branch or something?

[runic gorge]

yes

[vestal nimbus]

its not that entresting losers were in there then and loser are there now

intresting sry

[bold gale]

Hell Let Looser

[runic gorge]

the new map is good

[vestal nimbus]

fck i wanna see it

[runic gorge]

updated squad create menu

[nova pivot]

Can you send me some pics?

👉 👈

Please

[runic gorge]

alrighty

[novel geyser]

gonna check them out for myself, didnt realise the experimental branch just had them

[sly island]

Can ppl find any servers? I cant :((

[nova pivot]

And?

[runic gorge]

i pinged you in the channel i sent it to

[nova pivot]

Negative

Ping me again

I'm not pinned anywhere

[echo nova]

Pls pls pls pte on epic games

[bold gale]

)))

[echo nova]

If I get the game on steam can I shift my progress from epic to steam?

[zinc berry]

I look forward to trying this update when it comes out, only to get booted from the game within the first 5 minutes as usually.

[arctic rampart]

Besides the host of bugs that'll probably come. Happy to see some meaningful sheet finally being on the table.

[thorny crystal]

HLL started with the best intentions. It should have stuck closely to the PR parameters of game play. PR is still being played twenty plus years later. I doubt HLL will be.

[worthy charm]

eyyyy

lmao Arty spotter has a flare

[arctic rampart]

How many warnings do I have willes?

[novel geyser]

something missing from this new test branch is levels

PTE had you at max level for everything so you could actually use stuff but not in this branch

[worthy charm]

3? Nothing active

[arctic rampart]

Arc Raiders

Anyway, might have to reinstall finally. Looks actually interesting

[worthy charm]

Do you wanne be my SL 🥹

[arctic rampart]

I'm guessing most of the squads still don't comm and are absolute bozos, right?

[worthy charm]

xD

[novel geyser]

I also cant free cam on explore mode anymore 💔

[worthy charm]

Obviously

[arctic rampart]

Shieeet, I'll have to get them in line then again

At least I have a new mic to do so

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-understand-dont-you-understand-maggots-bootcamp-boot-camp-gif-10423280659456224447

[arctic rampart]

I'll be more like

https://tenor.com/bD3Ea.gif

[neat urchin]

Need face camo for paratroopers. That would be sick.

[arctic rampart]

We still on the "unIfOrMs ArEnT 1:1 wiTh HistOry" topic?

[keen yoke]

so hows the new beta test going?:

[novel geyser]

funny thing
https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1259880993959972884

[keen yoke]

I saw the arty changes and am downloading the beta to test it now

[worthy charm]

It just started

[keen yoke]

and Im diving head first in. I need me a KV2 kill

[worthy charm]

Dont the PTE hopefully? 😂

[rocky jacinth]

Brummbär tank is bugged i think
Machinegun and maingun fire weirdly

[keen yoke]

How so?

[worthy charm]

Brummbär has a MG?

[keen yoke]

Yeah a hull MG right?

[rocky jacinth]

Machinegun only fires straight and the main gun peojectiles fly to the side

[rocky jacinth]

Koaxial ye

[keen yoke]

Coaxial I think only applies if the turret rotates

[worthy charm]

I mean they said fireing close is gonna be hard

[rocky jacinth]

I thought so to but the koaxial stays in the middle

[worthy charm]

Would assume thats intended

[keen yoke]

The Brummbar is a casemate so its a hull MG. As for the side to side Im not sure

I know everyone likes to crap on the team but honestly some of the changes are the best 'direction' I've seen in a while, they just need to clean up the technical issues

I'm excited to play Smolensk

[rocky jacinth]

They main gun projectiles have a weird left pull they like fly straight and just turn left and than rocket straight to the ground

Smolensk seems pretty fun looks great

[worthy charm]

It should have a mg...

[arctic rampart]

Looks like a toy

[analog helm]

https://tenor.com/view/lucille-bluth-so-close-close-the-door-gif-14033284

me rn

[worthy charm]

It doesnt have one on there either

[keen yoke]

am I crazy

where is the MG on it

[rocky jacinth]

Ingame it shoots from below the tank

[arctic rampart]

Post a pic

[rocky jacinth]

Like the floor part

[arctic rampart]

oh wait, you can't, cause https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1375918936264147034

[worthy charm]

Loader uses a MG 34 through the barrel

[analog helm]

i was about to the loading screen of smolensk

llesssgooo famazammamamamam

[keen yoke]

does the Brummbar not have a Hull MG??

I looked it up cause I was unsure, it looks like it only ever had a commander MG, am I missing something?

[analog helm]

runs fine on a 3060 1080p everything on low it seems

[worthy charm]

Im gonna leave this here for people not reading the notes

[silk igloo]

the bullets come from the bottom of the tank though. and the KV2 hull mg doesnt turn yet. very experimental yet

[sly island]

Can't see any servers although it should be live on experimental branch -

'no compatible serevers

[keen yoke]

refresh a few times, had the same

[sly island]

I'll try a few more times then thx

[neat urchin]

yup would be awesome.

[glossy echo]

can anyone send screenshots of smolensk

[nova pivot]

No

[fringe hollow]

can't wait to be bested by the actual players since I'm casual

[neat urchin]

Also the commander uniform that came in the Mortain launch should be used by everyone for instead of just the commander. Could the Dev's fix that? @fluid pawn

[past vortex]

i love how they missed the point about the deathscreen :}

[analog helm]

no defence, they didnt fix this

its not looking great folks

cant compete with original maps

[runic gorge]

best map so far

really good map

[analog helm]

lol

[novel geyser]

It seems pretty good

very intense colour correction

[past veldt]

@fluid pawn could we get a tac map with all the strongpoint locations please?

[keen yoke]

I really do like the new map

[wheat wasp]

idk how to install it xD

[past veldt]

Did you read the announcement?

[analog helm]

ppl seem to like it. i guess theres gonna be some time to get used to

its not huge by any mean

[wheat wasp]

yep but it doesent show up

[cedar ore]

Hold on wait actually W update

[fluid pawn]

https://www.hellletloose.com/blog/experimental-branch-playtest-1

[fringe hollow]

Almost as if it's "experimental" or something

[sly island]

Still can't find any servers (except one with password) on the experimental branch after an hour of refreshing and attempts at fixing... Anyone else experiencing this? Really want to try out the map

[gray chasm]

can go into basic training, then explore to get the map to yourself for at least now while more servers switch over

[sly island]

Ah, so there is a sort of delay until servers switch to experimental branch? Luckily 'explore' still works for me

@gray chasm

[gray chasm]

looks like T17 put up 2 servers of their own, europe and US, but most servers in this game are owned by the community so yes, they have to manually switch it on their back end

[worthy charm]

All lies by the fanbois

-# Im kidding

[sly island]

Ok, thx. Going to try again later then

[novel geyser]

everyone I disagree with is a T17 plant

[keen yoke]

fr

[cosmic pilot]

So, how do you aim the spg

I hate it when auto correct changes it to a new word after I type the word I wanted correctly

[fringe hollow]

the word you wanted isnt a normal word

[cosmic pilot]

The word it changed was aim to sim 😭

[zealous linden]

What was the point?

[fringe hollow]

yes, you shouldn't aim for anything. That's how you get your hopes up

[worthy charm]

Yes

[empty steppe]

Artillery squad

wtf did I miss

[fringe hollow]

U19 pte

[cosmic pilot]

Because you didn't aim

[nova pivot]

Man I love femboys

[wheat wasp]

can someone check off-topic-mess-hall and help me?

[empty steppe]

No

[cosmic pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-richard-castle-gif-26285351

[empty steppe]

Chat

[worthy charm]

I mean...

[cosmic pilot]

Is it literally just a standard tank sight or what

[worthy charm]

Come to me my child

[nova pivot]

We all do, right?

[worthy charm]

Not at all

[nova pivot]

Uh?

[fallow tinsel]

people are locking the new arty roles. Cna you make it so it cant be locked just during the testing? Some reason people are afraid of other people

[empty steppe]

@worthy charm Should I actually play the game for the first time in a year? This might be a close bring back 😉

[nova pivot]

No

[past vortex]

the !wkm was disabled in comp

[empty steppe]

Yeah valid

[past vortex]

so it should be a server setting

[spare plover]

Hmm constant refresh on PTE is still showing no servers 🤔

[empty steppe]

https://tenor.com/brYN5.gif

I did not mean to reply to myself

I be pulling a kedo

[sturdy quarry]

its beta branch of main game not PTE, see the telegram for how to load beta

[spare plover]

ahh my bad. I should actually read the thing 😂

[past vortex]

everyone messes up his alts at some time, no worries

[empty steppe]

Wellwetwoose

[analog helm]

FEELS Like the map runs worse at night

[finite berry]

Do I have to play the game to be a T17 plant? 🪴

[novel geyser]

no

[vestal nimbus]

i never play night games just doesent give me the right vibe

[cold sequoia]

the day map is far to bright

[vestal nimbus]

also nightbattles dident happen much in ww2

settings maybe?

[harsh egret]

I don't think extra fog battles took place in 75% of battles either but here we are

[vestal nimbus]

hurtgen forrest was pretty foggy

[harsh egret]

I'll never understand the developer obsession with making visibility terrible every chance they get with overdoing fog.

[cold sequoia]

and gamma

[harsh egret]

We're a Panzer Division and have nothing to do with the SS. Only morons think so.

We're very light on milsim and more interested in comp aspects, although we aren't hardcore about it.

[vestal nimbus]

i just bought my erbsenmunster skin 🥺

its only a war crime if your caught doing it

he even speaks german in some scenes wich is laughable LOL

[cosmic pilot]

I'll raise you a Scottish speaking Russian

https://tenor.com/view/stunned-hunt-for-red-october-sean-connery-periscope-yikes-gif-1810772869726662928

[vestal nimbus]

he's from new zealand

[nova pivot]

Fvck fog

[vestal nimbus]

great movie though

[analog apex]

definitely nothing wrong here 😄
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/625321517487489034/1437498338261078026/20251110184135_1.jpg?ex=69137627&is=691224a7&hm=d4c0d8ff04cdd3e78eee1b0163738575f3fbea0054535d878f9ada71144dd419&=&format=webp&width=1521&height=856

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/625321517487489034/1437498338717995148/20251110184142_1.jpg?ex=69137627&is=691224a7&hm=32af568d82dba2ecae3c7edd81cfd9d37950f88c73e2d1225e633e23604e740f&=&format=webp&width=1521&height=856

[cosmic pilot]

What kind of privilege is this

Images in mess hall

[nova pivot]

Yeah nothing to see

[cosmic pilot]

I call hacks

[analog apex]

good news - in EXPLORE mode, we can finally choose the AXIS too. Another good news is we can choose the Commander role as well. The bad news is that the CMD role is restricted behind the LVL and in the EXPLORE the game thinks we are at LVL 0 😄 ... so we can't choose it.

aaaah, and can't use the adminCam in explore mode now - there is no option to enter it... can't explore the map properly

[pine ember]

This should be brought back

[azure heath]

At least it looks sick

[analog apex]

I believe it's just because of the dev branch. I don't think it's gonna be like that in the final build. But at the same time... not sure honestly. Because this is not a PTE.

[pine ember]

Yes

Does anyone know more about the Soviet camo uniform?

[azure heath]

how's it drive?

[finite berry]

Totenvogel is a Kedo alt confirmed

[analog apex]

I was on Smolenks just for a few minutes but I already noticed that a lot of (if not all?) the new buildings are not accessible... not what I expect from "largest **__urban __**map"

[nova pivot]

Yes

[pine ember]

Nah come on

[nova pivot]

Anyway does anyone know more about the soviet camo uniform?

I'm curious, I think they invented it

[finite berry]

so is Sparta

:( man

[nova pivot]

We need to know

[pine ember]

I'm just interested because it looks like a Waffen-SS pattern on a Soviet suit

[nova pivot]

We need German Cossack uniform

[finite berry]

Honestly, understandable since urban maps are hell for performance

[pine ember]

Yea

[nova pivot]

We need aneherbe expedition game mode

[analog apex]

what's the point of having a town where we can't enter almost any buildings

[pine ember]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1165369525231947946/1357469841790865510/tenor.gif

[finite berry]

Törken

[pine ember]

Having a town... And its not only a town... its Smolensk

[finite berry]

Would you rather have a town with 20 FPS where every building is accessible?

[nova pivot]

Torken

[analog apex]

depends on how well it's optimized

and what area is chosen

[finite berry]

Now take a look at HLL's code

[analog apex]

right 😄

🍝

[nova pivot]

Now please

What is that camo supposed to be

?

Looks very german

[pine ember]

But honestly, map looks good

[analog apex]

So... when switching from normal branch to the experimental one, the game needs to download ~4.5GB. When switchign back, it again needs to download, but ~12GB.
I don't think many people will want to waste time on doing that... a PTE was better inn that regard.

even with a fast internet, it's gonna take at least around 20 minutes to switch between the branches - each and every time

[nova pivot]

(☝️ to everything but I don't even own a pc)

[analog apex]

I "hope" they will want us to verify the game files each time after branch switching (which will take another quite a bit of time) and there we go... a very annoying testing system is born.

I was hoping we wouldn't need to redownload so much when switching the branches back and forth.

With having these things in mind, I don't think those dev branch servers will get actually seeded.

[thin lotus]

🤭

[sturdy quarry]

does there need to be a beta branch feedback channel

[thin lotus]

you all fell for it

[harsh egret]

I fully expect to get 5 fps on the new map regardless, like every other map released since Remagen.

[thin lotus]

genius tactic by T17

[analog apex]

you think we fall for anything? :/

[thin lotus]

now the onus is on the players as to how this stuff gets 'tested'. Now to be run by communities and their own wwillingness to host and seed it.
T17 has shifted the blame over.

[analog apex]

something I mentioned earlier already... kind of

one of the effects

[thin lotus]

Any and every bug that goes through is now the responsibility of test branch player communities that now have the burden of hosting them

[analog apex]

and reporting them

[thin lotus]

yup, even less likely of happening

[analog apex]

I am honestly quite tired of reporting the HLL bugs... especially when seeing that every one I report stays there for forever... no matter of how critical or easy it is.

[thin lotus]

here's the thing. Dont

just dont report it

[analog apex]

yep, that's what it encourages

[thin lotus]

Stop doing their QA work, and unpaid.

[analog apex]

I would gladly keep doing it, but I would need to see some results from the previous reports too...

which I very much don't.

[thin lotus]

DON'T.
Just DON'T, man.

[analog apex]

I don't, for some time already. No results noticed, burned me out fast.

[harsh egret]

Like cosmetics resetting consistently for a long time and they won't fix it but they sell more cosmetic DLC every update

Amazing

This studio has zero time to spend on reworking tanks and arty with how bad this game runs, yet here we are.

[nova pivot]

@fluid pawn you need to shave

You look more handsome without beard

[analog apex]

The worst annoying ones are when we click a button but the click doesn't register - the same goes for the gun not firing despite we click. Quite a problem in a shooter game. Footsteps sounds working eratically... sometimes one can hear from far away, other time the guy can be next to us and we hear nothing. The same goes for the OP radio sound.

SME church still f????d up indoor sound. And etc etc etc and etc

People spawning on the destroyed spawnpoints just because they got "locked in"

server welcome message empty at least half of the time until we get killed at least 1x... "great" for newcomers, they can't even read the server rules before jumping into combat

hell, I don't want to start with a list again otherwise it would be a looong one once more

[past vortex]

its that feature where you use the kv2 to get the MG on certain roofs in comp

[analog apex]

yep, I already thought of that too 😄

[past vortex]

i dont think they consider fixing anything that was there for a longer time
its all features by now

[analog apex]

yeah... like the sector cap/lose sound/music being tied to the UI visibility... doesn't make sense 😄

if one needs to have HUD toggled ON to be able to hear the sector cap/loss sound, why is there the sound to begin with? we can see it on the HUD

[past vortex]

there is music?

:D

[analog apex]

nah, the short sound

[past vortex]

first thing i do when starting any game first time is turning music volume to 0% :}

[analog apex]

me too

it's like a music but it's not a music... I mean the sector cap/lose sound

I am just sad I can't fight BenB... he seems to be playing on some hidden server, probably for the war corresponders +discord mods or something.
jsut had to refresh a couple of times 😄

[sturdy quarry]

damn they are getting spin on these shells 😂 https://youtu.be/_JKsUD1fOGk?si=DAR2etRh-LykD30o

[analog apex]

those shells behave more like Javelin rockets when fired high above

[covert elbow]

What the hell is that velocity????

That’s so slow!

[sturdy quarry]

its so the run speed seems faster in comparison.

community whinged about run speed change so they slowed everything else

[covert elbow]

That’s definitely not the case

[thin lotus]

this is why i asked yesterday "how fast will their projectiles be"

literally called it

[silk igloo]

hey, that's meeee. too bad my crazy laugh isnt recorded

[little otter]

Each patch gets worse and worse.

[thin lotus]

so this level of inaccuracy is before the other arty guy marks a target zone?

'arty observer'

[silk igloo]

I had no idea how to mark anything, I just put an OP next to the brumbar and hoped that it would have an effect

[thin lotus]

binos maybe?

[sturdy quarry]

i thort it increased accuracy within the yellow circle radius of the arty team op

like how the nodes have a reduce cooldown radius circle

[vestal nimbus]

i just want a game to remember

[worthy charm]

Doesnt feel like it...

[thin lotus]

lol
lmao, even
lol at hll

[silk igloo]

It should be accurate enough to hit a tank at 100m at least, every time, without fiddling with binos or such. We'll see if it's any good in hitting spawns, but I doubt it.

[thin lotus]

are these things meant to shoot more vertical?

[silk igloo]

It did seem to arc down pretty well, although the speed, arc and scatter looks rather goofy. I guess it has to be gamey, otherwise you could hardly ever hit targets behind cover

[thin lotus]

these are going to be damn useless if this is the sort of MOA before the arty observer's magical accuracy spell is summoned

[analog apex]

can one get fatal error in the dev branch? Place your bets 😄

[worthy charm]

Got 3 already

[silk igloo]

i got one as soon as i tried to join

[analog apex]

I just got one too... have been in the server just for a few minutes

[thin lotus]

this is "garbage tank with extra steps"

[sturdy quarry]

i kinda understand the inaccuracy for balance / force it to be used more as arty than tank

but shouldnt it be more accurate but the risk / reward is ya can hit stuff closer but then you risk getting blown up vs hiding to rain down arty for afar

just make em one shot to kill them but more accurate to encourage hiding behind cover

[limber latch]

any wermarcht main eu group, im new?

[silk igloo]

Keeping the maximum range at 500 meters is a mistake though, it wouldnt have to arc like that if the range was more realistic. The SPA would just have to shoot from further out if it wanted to hit over cover.

[harsh egret]

RIP HLL. It was kind of fun while it lasted, I guess. Sort of.

[thin lotus]

what is the intended degrees of elevation these are supposed to shoot at?

[silk igloo]

But I suppose it'd devolve into recon loop, except with recon tanks this time...

[limber latch]

?

[limber latch]

.

[silk igloo]

The true ranges would be 5 kilometers or so, I think

[sturdy quarry]

i think the cat and mouse recon hunting a moving tank could be fun vs always in hq

so think its fine to have recon / spg loop

if spg had better range

[silk igloo]

I mean, if the SPA just kept in the far backlines, then the job of recon would be shifted to tankers, or some satcheler taking a truck from HQ

[harsh egret]

So wait are they increasing run speed this patch? Because the last time they tried all that, it was a failed experiement.

[covert elbow]

For anyone caring I think I found the new Soviet camp. Apparently it’s a really short lived camo pattern that wasn’t used much during the war but took off post war

[limber latch]

do you know any wermarcht main eu group?

[covert elbow]

So take that as you will

[thin lotus]

so the gun would be pointed angled upwards to what, at least 45 degrees?

[sturdy quarry]

no they decreased weapon velocity so the running feels faster

(this was a poor attempt at a joke 💀 )

[thin lotus]

like, is the intended use of these tanks supposed to be shooting upwards, for the round to fall on top of the target?

[silk igloo]

Well, the infantry gun carriage could go up to ~70 degrees, dont know about brumbar

Warthunder says it's 30

[harsh egret]

If they gut HQ arty for whatever the hell kind of gameplay this is supposed to be, I am literally uninstalling and forgetting about this lost cause.

[worthy charm]

It has arty in the name... so yes?

[thin lotus]

here, have a worse, more cumbersome HLL tank lmao.
These devs are truly clueless.

[silk igloo]

As I said, as gamey and unfinished as the arc is, it does seem to splash down nicely. Just way inaccurate

[thin lotus]

it doesnt arc enough?

[worthy charm]

Can you please inform yourself? I mean I dont really care... but why are you being mad in here when you dont know what the update does.

[thin lotus]

i have no idea historically how these vehicles were used

[silk igloo]

It's... doing it's own thing. At the end of your selected range it just decides to turn down like a javelin missile. In game

[worthy charm]

It kind of flies straight until it hit the sky box and then turns down.

Feels like it turns down at a certain height

[thin lotus]

with as slow as the rounds travel, to me it seems like the devs were trying to hit a velocity to where if angled 'correctly' - it wouldnt just fly past the skybox

[sturdy quarry]

the beta notes did say the visual of the SPA arc was bugged

[thin lotus]

lol thats hilarious

outta gas!

[harsh egret]

What is it I'm not informed of? If they rework or change the existing arty to "balance" this new garbage, I'll be done with it.

[thin lotus]

like a cartoon

[harsh egret]

It is a statement

[sturdy quarry]

we cant have a go about bugs they state upfront surely

[worthy charm]

If you cant be bothered to read the dev brief why are you here and complain about it?
You dont even know what youre talking about.

Its obvoius you didnt read the dev brief

[thin lotus]

Why start the experimental branch going into it knowing that the main thing players will be testing is bugged straight out of the gate, and a trait that is what its function entirely depends on

[harsh egret]

Yeah we'll see what happens down the line when this and future updates keep killing what's left of this game bud. They shoulda fixed the terrible performance instead of trying to mess with any of the game's core mechanics in the first place.

[sturdy quarry]

well im saying the visual is bugged, not where the shell lands

if that is also broken then

[thin lotus]

were the rounds in that video not impacting where it was visually going?

[sturdy quarry]

im talking about the "javelin effect" you guys were discussing

outta gas

etc

[thin lotus]

ah okay

[silk igloo]

Yeah, it's just the calculations that form the arc that's messed up, the end result, at least for indirect fire, seem ok. (Just way inaccurate to my taste)

[analog apex]

the shells behave just like ordinary tank shells though - they are not killing anybody behind a wall inside a building or what not
just a comment as this was wondered about yesterday by some

some peeps expected them to act more like a satchel - for clearing the buildings (as those buildings would easily collapse in real life when hit by those shells)

[thin lotus]

that was just speculation

[sturdy quarry]

what about "normal arty shells"?

[thin lotus]

right now, this is just "tanks but worse"

[silk igloo]

that was my wish 😔

[sturdy quarry]

i just think it feels way too gamey to see them miss at the range on the vid, would prefer that they can hit but are vulnerable to encourage them sitting further back

[thin lotus]

just think of your average HLL match and how inapplicable these arty vics are going to be

[worthy charm]

Currently its definitely worse when it comes to the spread.
They need to buff that 100%

[analog apex]

maybe they did it this bad on purpose, so we can see some progress over time 😏

[harsh egret]

In order to ensure that both artillery units are equally viable and fun to counter, the following changes apply:

Reduced range from 1600m to 1400m. This means they are incapable of firing into the final objective on any map
The static artillery must first be constructed by the artillery squad using supplies. Only one static artillery gun can be built at any given time.
Artillery guns can now be dismantled by opposing players simply by holding F (interact key). They can also be damaged/destroyed by explosive weapons.
Should an artillery gun be dismantled/destroyed then it must be rebuilt using the same amount of supplies it was originally constructed with. There is a cooldown of 5 minutes before another gun can be built.
Instead of the static artillery gun costing munitions to fire, it will have a limited supply of ammunition that can be replenished by a commander ability costing munitions

@worthy charm tell me more about how me saying "if they gut existing arty to balance this new garbage, I'll uninstall" translates to me not reading the brief.

They already admit that is the plan.

[worthy charm]

Please refrain from pinging random people

[thin lotus]

"Never make a product so good that a person does not have to buy another one"

[harsh egret]

Yeah it was an accidental click

[sturdy quarry]

rarely see more than one arty gun in public matches
and dont comp make a rule of one arty gun only where the crew cant be killed?

[worthy charm]

You are able to copy and paste

im so proud

[silk igloo]

those rules might change since they can destroy the guns and bugger off for a while

[harsh egret]

Yeah, still waiting for you to tell me where anything I said goes against what it says in the briefing.

Take your time.

[covert elbow]

The SPA’s and the new arty are very “gamey” in general. It’s a very weird and in unnecessary direction

They should have absolutely just done mortars and then made these SPG’s assault guns

[sturdy quarry]

yeh for sure im more trying to understand what is "gutting the arty"

[silk igloo]

5 minutes is far too little, imo. recon can run a few grids, fight for a minute and then they'd have to redeploy back to fight arty again

[worthy charm]

Brother, your mad and talking to mad people is a waste of time.

Nothing I say will change your mind

We mad elsewhere

[covert elbow]

Also idk why artillery crews are using tanker cosmetics and why “SPA’s” are only useable by artillery crews.

Can’t wait to see tankers on artillery…

[harsh egret]

Or maybe just don't come at me with stupid nonsense that makes no sense.

Reworking core mechanics of a game at the end of its life cycle when it suffers from horrible performance issues is wild work.

[worthy charm]

lmoa

Reworking the placeholder is a sign it dies

[harsh egret]

Still waiting for you to tell me where anything I said goes against what it says in the briefing. I see you already changed the subject though 😉

[worthy charm]

Brother...

You said:

If they gut HQ arty
That factually wrong.

That why I said you didnt read

[harsh egret]

One gun, not 3, and reduced range. That is gutting the existing model.

[worthy charm]

That is objectivly not what they are doing

[worthy charm]

That also wrong

Just stop bro

just dont

Like

Please

[cyan saddle]

Considering many people have begged for HQ arty to be removed entirely - it's quite frankly a wonder that it's still here xD

[worthy charm]

That too

[cyan saddle]

if you're reading this Ben, you know what to do

[worthy charm]

Removing it would have been better imo

[cyan saddle]

press delet

[harsh egret]

"Only one static artillery gun can be built at any given time." I mean if that isn't the case, maybe they should write better.

[thin lotus]

too appease the little number of players that still give a damn about HLL 'needing' HQ arty

scrap it all, it was bad since day 1

stop doing these weird workarounds, just scrap it

[covert elbow]

Like I said, should have been mortars…

It’s the perfect solution that we need

[cyan saddle]

Would have been my recommendation as well

[gentle lintel]

could say the same for yourself... 🔽

[covert elbow]

And don’t worry, I’m going to be writing a lengthy review on this new system because my god they fumbled everything

[harsh egret]

Shocker

[covert elbow]

Where is the new feedback channel anyways?

[finite berry]

Unironically looking forward to it lol

[covert elbow]

Haha

Also me and the boys at the historical society will be making a review of all the new uniforms from now on

Cause they always seem to fumble something with them

[worthy charm]

Amazing I wasnt the target of that one

[uneven moon]

If i want to flip from experimental to regular build to play with everyone else i have to reinstall the files. So guessing would have to do this everytime i switch. Any reason why its easier to this over putting it over to the pte client?

[covert elbow]

Y’know I’m still so confused on how the Cossack uniform got fixed but every other uniform suggestion made before hand was ignored

[fallow tinsel]

where do we leave feed back from the testing?

[covert elbow]

Did Kedo just berate and DM Ben or something?

[nova pivot]

Maybe kedo is the key

[worthy charm]

~~You dont need to be mad or right, you just need to be annoying. ~~
Who knows how it works...

[nova pivot]

He wanted smolesnks, he wanted Cossacks...

[covert elbow]

Pretty much

[nova pivot]

He asked for the fix and it happened

[worthy charm]

He also wanted SPA....
And keep arty....

[nova pivot]

😭

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-charlie-day-crazy-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-qanon-gif-23738584

[nova pivot]

He is the real DEV

[covert elbow]

Maybe I’ll also just DM Ben since I’ve never gotten a response or a conspiratorial “I suggested this!” Moment

[nova pivot]

👍 yeah

Say hello to him for me.

[worthy charm]

If it works It works I guess.

[covert elbow]

Well except for the patron uniform but I also specificied that it should have just been a normal jacket and not a bad cosplay of Patton

It’s so bad lmao

I just call it Chinese repro Patton

[covert elbow]

Ig

[covert elbow]

Will do c:

[worthy charm]

Ask him if he likes his chicken with rice.

He had to stop streaming to go eat... 🥲

[covert elbow]

What about rice… with chicken?

Or chicken and rice!

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-angry-food-huhnchen-mit-reis-with-rice-gif-14444698

[covert elbow]

Is he coming back?

[worthy charm]

idk

probably

He always comes back

[covert elbow]

I don’t need to know German understand this lmao

[vestal nimbus]

huhnchen ist lebe

[errant moss]

I don't even gaf if they change the whole meta to the entire game I'm still losing connection to host on any server I play on every single time I try to play

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-fnaf3-fnaf3springtrap-five-nights-at-freddy's-spring-trap-gif-16811605238166773479

[covert elbow]

Bottom line

They need to redo this game from scratch

[errant moss]

They should set it in Vietnam maybe

[worthy charm]

Oof

HLLV is seen critical in these parts of the discord.

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/flamethrower-protective-gear-burn-it-all-burn-it-to-the-ground-gif-17551547

[vestal nimbus]

critcal is alright might be a let down though

[errant moss]

I can't wait to play in summer 2027

All will be revealed

[sturdy quarry]

if they can release two patches in a row that dont break something i could come round

[errant moss]

Best we can do is fog and lost connection to host

[sturdy quarry]

fog, night time and lost connection please

[errant moss]

I still play everyday like an abused 1950s housewife coming back for more. I'm a sadist

[nova pivot]

I saw you william

In the Ben stream

Running around like a headless chicken

[boreal umbra]

the game runs okay it's just that the PTE is never working :/

[worthy charm]

Obviously, I played with the famous people

[covert elbow]

They got rid of the PTE

Also it definitely doesn’t run okay

[boreal umbra]

which part doesn't run ok? maybe it's subjective

[errant moss]

https://tenor.com/view/ray-liotta-laughing-happy-lol-gif-15802525

[worthy charm]

Who knows...

We got a permanent testing version, thats what (some) people wanted after U18

[covert elbow]

Desync, stuttering, lagging, horrible hit registration, crashing, etc

[vestal nimbus]

i want MG's to shoot off bodyparts

[worthy charm]

Not a bad decision perse, but consoles are still left out sadly

[covert elbow]

The game is in an absolute horrible state right now but it hasn’t been helped for some reason

We just get shiny covered crap to tide us over

[finite berry]

For the PTE or the hotfix? PTE, right?

[boreal umbra]

Maybe it's on playstation? Cause I've barely had problems on PC

[covert elbow]

The game itself

[boreal umbra]

Stuttering and lag depends on map but it's real yeah. Desync as well but it's not game-breaking

[covert elbow]

The hell you mean

[worthy charm]

Consoles are worse, but there are also performance issues and crashes on PC

[covert elbow]

I can’t kill a guy because the game says “I missed”

[boreal umbra]

never had that happen, maybe because of lag but all my shots land most of the time

[covert elbow]

It’s been bad before but it’s to a point where I genuinely can’t tell if I missed a guy or if the game just said “nuh uh” to my shots

[worthy charm]

I say Skill issue

[boreal umbra]

I think that's console exclusive, I've heard it's really bad there

[covert elbow]

There’s been more then a few times where I play and hit a guy in the chest with a rifle, only for him to mow me down with a SMG

[worthy charm]

The game wasnt made for console and its obvious

[covert elbow]

It feels like I can’t even use anything except automatics anymore

[worthy charm]

Still a bad decision imo

[covert elbow]

Yep

[worthy charm]

But I guess we got Ninja and Sparta with it, so I take it.

[covert elbow]

If they wanted to port to console they needed to fix the code first

If they had just fixed the code and had a solid foundation we’d be fine

But BM just gave us more content instead

[boreal umbra]

Studio change really messed with the game flow, it's hard to understand code you didn't write

[worthy charm]

Yaaaay Night maps and fog, thats what the communitys loves until this day.

[finite berry]

You will play automatics and you will like it

[covert elbow]

Yep

Hence why vietnams biggest selling point is the fact that it’s been rebuilt

[sturdy quarry]

if only there was some kind of handover period between devs

...

[worthy charm]

True, I dont care about the war at all.

[covert elbow]

Woe, British be upon ye

[past vortex]

its not like they even try to fix anything

[boreal umbra]

Still love the game and I will hope they fix it. Vietnam will be a banger for sure

[worthy charm]

They said there was... I didnt believe it.

[sturdy quarry]

yeah exactly 😆

[worthy charm]

Remember cover 6? I do

[sturdy quarry]

T17 doesnt

[covert elbow]

With how they’be handled HLL? Doubt it

[covert elbow]

Litteraly got shot out back a month after its creation lmao

And that’s a joke mods, I’m not saying they were actually killed

[boreal umbra]

New map was well made so atleast we can enjoy the visuals with buggy gameplay maybe

[worthy charm]

Ban this man

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/gold-ship-golshi-gold-ship-uma-musume-uma-musume-pretty-derby-macarena-gif-15115651813167846658

[sturdy quarry]

how much stuff floats off the ground like stalingrad rework?

[boreal umbra]

yeah I never said it's not buggy 😄

hitboxes are diabolical

[sturdy quarry]

i get the old maps having poor hitboxes

but why start new maps with bugged assets

same as elsenborn bushes

[boreal umbra]

I think from a resource standpoint the more accurate colliders you have the more performance tanks

[sturdy quarry]

just make em a bit too small rather than really too big then 😆

[boreal umbra]

yeah then your character clips in the mesh

but the SPA collider is horrible

[covert elbow]

Can’t tell you how many times I’ve lost a kill or been killed because of janky hitboxes

Bleh

[bold gale]

Tabletop wargame

[nova pivot]

Skill issue

[nova pivot]

Skill issue

[analog apex]

people may have wanted, true... but not as a branch that has to be redownloaded (at least its considerable portion) each time one switches between the branches 😏

[nova pivot]

Skill issue

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-uma-musume-umamusume-gold-ship-golshi-gif-6689659275719278187

[serene galleon]

Hey there, how can I play the new map? I do not see any servers on public testing?

[nova pivot]

You need to do a thing I don't understand because I'm a console player

[nova pivot]

Let's ping William

@worthy charm

Help this member of the community

[covert elbow]

I miss Max

[nova pivot]

I don't know who he is

[covert elbow]

The moderator

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/mane-im-dead-gif-6502286207230651503

[covert elbow]

The Aussie

[nova pivot]

Aaa the one of the hat?

[covert elbow]

Yes

[nova pivot]

Yeayea

[covert elbow]

Hes been gone for a while

Kinda suprised he hasn’t had his mod status revoked

[nova pivot]

Yeah he used to send some brainrot things but he hasn't send anything fo a while

[covert elbow]

Think he’s just been busy

[wheat forum]

500 METER spas ridiculous ?

[covert elbow]

Should just be assault guns

[wheat forum]

and the omg precision system

[runic gorge]

Lowkey the new map runs so good

I'm impressed with t17

https://tenor.com/view/dudidam-mambo-matikane-tannhauser-vtuber-dance-gif-253137180940701003

[covert elbow]

Isn’t that because most of the buildings are inaccessible?

[nova pivot]

Lowkey your PFP is a Italian flag

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/gold-ship-gold-ship-dance-umamusume-dance-golshi-gold-ship-jukebox-gif-8107532327957041509

[nova pivot]

Yeah, I hope they do like they did with mortain

[runic gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/persona-3-persona-femc-persona-kotone-persona-minako-femc-gif-9523001624499032417

[nova pivot]

It is

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-what-it-is-it-is-eet-eet-iz-iz-gif-17896182

[runic gorge]

Could be that? I'm not too sure honestly. I just love the new arty system and map

[runic gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/gold-ship-golshi-gold-ship-uma-musume-uma-musume-pretty-derby-macarena-gif-15115651813167846658

[covert elbow]

Really? I think the new arty system is crap

[worthy charm]

I dont wanna

[nova pivot]

@covert elbow destroy that sentence

[covert elbow]

Should just be mortars

[nova pivot]

Sh1t mod

Nah I love u

[runic gorge]

Personally I really wanted mortars but the tanks are cool

[nova pivot]

Don't ban me please

[covert elbow]

What sentence

[covert elbow]

WOW

Dude you can’t say that! Ban this floppa!

[nova pivot]

The: I like the new arty sistem

[covert elbow]

Oh with pleasure

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/tmnt-michelangelo-i-thought-we-were-friends-i-thought-you-were-my-friend-tmnt-2012-gif-6687291533154958026

[runic gorge]

I wonder if the USA will get an spa tank

[covert elbow]

Same. These SPG’s need to just be assault guns and the new arty gun should be mortars

[nova pivot]

Yes big boom Sherman

105

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-i-lied-gif-21836345

[runic gorge]

Sherman 🤑🤑🤑🤑

[nova pivot]

Why did you change your PFP?

[covert elbow]

*SPG

[finite berry]

@covert elbow told you :') people don't question the logic or necessity behind these new tanks (or the fact that they aren't even SPAs), they just go "haha kv2 go boom".

[worthy charm]

Give the devs a finger they gonna take the whole arm

[nova pivot]

I liked the Italian flag🥺

[covert elbow]

None of these tanks are SPA’s

[runic gorge]

Aren't they called spa in game?

[nova pivot]

You wanna see something?

[covert elbow]

Yep

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/golshi-goldship-uma-musume-gif-1794682000302844

[runic gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-umamusume-uma-musume-pretty-derby-umamusumeprettyderby-goldship-gif-399282898089052067

[covert elbow]

Their called that despite not being SPA’s. Their assault guns

[nova pivot]

Is that a yes? Sorry I don't speak horse

[runic gorge]

That makes sense

[covert elbow]

An actual SPA is something like the M7 Priest

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-nodding-nodding-yes-horse-nodding-silly-gif-5152303604886252799

[finite berry]

What's the difference between an SPA and SPG, then

[nova pivot]

Okay check dms

[finite berry]

shut up

[runic gorge]

Praying that next years roadmap has some commonwealth stuff 🙏🏻

[nova pivot]

🙏

[silk igloo]

If they were direct-fire SPGs that fire little satchels, then they'd serve a purpose in breaking any defense that wont otherwise budge. Since such power would need the support of tanks and infantry, it wouldn't be OP, it would be fair that an enemy in line of sight gets obliterated

[runic gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/teddie-persona-4-kuma-persona-4-teddie-persona-4-persona-4-golden-gif-18219278006368636843

[covert elbow]

SPA is a tank that acts as mobile artillery.

SPG’s have an artillery gun as the main weapon but don’t have the capability of using it like an artillery gun

[silk igloo]

but with skill they could also do some indirect artillery, since the brumbar gun has a measly 240m/s muzzle velocity

[covert elbow]

So indirect fire (SPA) Vs. direct fire (SPG)

[worthy charm]

The SPA could have been SPGs

[runic gorge]

The German dlc will be peak on the one Soviet snow map

[worthy charm]

Would have made more sense

[nova pivot]

Check dms

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/all-aussie-adventure-aussie-adventure-australia-russell-coight-gif-25064375

[covert elbow]

Is what it needs to be

[finite berry]

Thank you!

[runic gorge]

Lowkey when I modded bfv I begged r4 to let me add a slouch hat to bf1944 💀

[bold gale]

For real

[covert elbow]

Would have been good for an Africa part of the mod

[nova pivot]

Caen 🙏

[bold gale]

Arnhem and Reichswald...

[nova pivot]

Juno 🙏

[covert elbow]

Would have liked if they did theater specific stuff you can swap out yourself but you already know the reactions to my ideas

[bold gale]

Kedo 🙏🙏🙏

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-metal-gear-rising-punch-punching-fling-gif-24582824

[nova pivot]

Pegasus bridge (purple heart lane V2)🙏

[nova pivot]

You are alone in this one lil bro

[runic gorge]

Fr

[bold gale]

Don't be so fast

[runic gorge]

Personally id like to see Italy in HLL

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/dirt-grave-dirt-in-your-grave-in-your-grave-bury-gif-17409906

[sturdy quarry]

they could maybe keep the current system and have SPAs and SPGs and you pick like recon / light / medium / heavy

[covert elbow]

If they just did a game based solely on the Mediterranean I’d be in heaven

Implant my multi-faction map idea and we’re cooking

[nova pivot]

Yeah the pfp you had was saying it

[runic gorge]

Like what Verdun did?

With the multiple armies on one map

[nova pivot]

Verdun is kinda cursed

[covert elbow]

That’d be the best, but the current SPA’s would need to be reclassified as assault guns

[covert elbow]

Yep

Have Brit’s and Americans Vs Germans and Italians

[nova pivot]

Playing as Belgians in every map...

Or as Senegaleise infantry...

[runic gorge]

Lowkey that would be pretty cool

[bold gale]

https://tenor.com/view/black-stare-blank-stare-black-man-gif-15520189302594250236

[covert elbow]

Thank ya

Wish the devs would think the same

[runic gorge]

I'll just pay the devs to do it

[covert elbow]

$5

[runic gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/teddie-persona-4-kuma-persona-4-teddie-persona-4-persona-4-golden-gif-18219278006368636843

[nova pivot]

They are not french

They are Senegaleise

But the colonialism forced the to figh for a country they had never seen

Fvck le french

[wind vine]

Hey Sam, hope you don't see this too late but you can use admin cam in explore mode on smolensk, I just did

Thank you, thank you

[empty steppe]

Run away until you have to surrender simulator

[glossy echo]

what do you think about smolesnk

[nova pivot]

He is sleeping

[covert elbow]

Eepy boy

[empty steppe]

https://tenor.com/ffRnHBANgml.gif

[nova pivot]

Hello cheesecake

[worthy charm]

omg are you the real one?

When HLL together?

Cant be worse than full gas in HD2

[covert elbow]

When me and you HLL

[glossy echo]

Smolensk opinions?

[worthy charm]

Buy PC

[covert elbow]

They should add crossplay but have it be for proper joining though T17

So it’s like treat an not the norm

[nova pivot]

Right now

Let's do it

Recon duo

[glossy echo]

best roles

[empty steppe]

https://tenor.com/PlS9.gif

[empty steppe]

Luv you 😘

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/avas-3rd-birthday-gif-9123796012341767024

@worthy charm there is enough love for everyone

Come here 🫂

[uneven moon]

its a 4gb download to go experimental and then 12gb to go back to normal HLL. kinda wild

[nova pivot]

Yeah average T17 moment

[finite berry]

When you and me a different game 🥹

[uneven moon]

PTE just taking up space on my computer now

[covert elbow]

When you buy PS5

[nova pivot]

S44

[covert elbow]

Or get me a PC

[nova pivot]

Yeah we know

[empty steppe]

Why the heart break

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/squad44-post-scriptum-ww2-squad-gif-18392816148734745238

[finite berry]

I choose the latter :)

[nova pivot]

He is jealous

But we can love him too

[nova pivot]

@finite berry

[finite berry]

I'm waiting for you 💔

[nova pivot]

😭

Don't make me cry

[empty steppe]

Real footage of the German army 1945 again

[nova pivot]

Fr

[covert elbow]

I’ll send you my address

[nova pivot]

Waow

I'm jealous right now ngl

[covert elbow]

You mom

[nova pivot]

Eyeye calm down big boy

[finite berry]

I'll come by and give you a hug 🫂

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-running-outside-window-squidward-neighbors-gif-10676078864014259683

[finite berry]

🫂

[covert elbow]

No

[finite berry]

:(

[worthy charm]

No your mom

[covert elbow]

PC or I shoot

[finite berry]

Hug or no PC

[nova pivot]

I want

Come to Spain

I have a private swimming pool

[finite berry]

Speaking of it, today I tested a gun game mod someone made for S44 in cooperation with one of my server hosts. Was great fun even in WIP. We're hoping to implement it as an alternative to regular seeding modes

Modding access is such a game changer

HLL also desperately needs that

Would allow for so many things to get implemented, both in a more realistic and a more goofy way

[past vortex]

its ofc nice but in MP it also splits playerbase....

[finite berry]

Very good point

Still, I think the advantages heavily outweigh the disadvantages

[worthy charm]

You know what HLL needs?

[past vortex]

if someone still has doubts that ◡‿◡ is kedo read the russian channel :}

[finite berry]

Naw :]

[nova pivot]

Naw

[finite berry]

You're too kind :]

[finite berry]

Had to laugh when he said that Russians are the most friendly people in online gaming lmfao

[orchid shoal]

how we liking Smolensk

[gray lagoon]

I think it may be the best map that they have made

[orchid shoal]

but... purple heart lane

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-gif-14668343010426848831

[nova pivot]

Your PFP goes hard, I'll trust you

[covert elbow]

There’s a Russian channel?

[gentle lintel]

Not for you ninja

Kidding

[covert elbow]

I’m fine with that

I don’t think I’ve kept hidden my distaste for Russians

[past vortex]

:/

[empty steppe]

Hans get ze panzerfaust

[uneven moon]

https://tenor.com/view/backtodalobby-gif-5868811890733281559

[cedar ore]

Smolensk might be peak

[wind shore]

Peak was pre u18

[cedar ore]

Idk

After playing a few matches of Smolensk I’m liking the new changes

[worthy charm]

Pre U0

[cedar ore]

One thing I will say is the artillery and SPAs need more whistle, artillery should whistle cause it sounds cool and frankly hearing that just before getting turned into mush is great

The SPAs could have a different sound but lord knows what

[fringe hollow]

Whistling Tomahawk cruise missile my beloved

[sweet fjord]

I'm to excited for HLL Vietnam

When can i apply for alpha and stuff ?

[slate canopy]

Once information is out, then they'll let you know

Keep an eye in #sit-reps which is announcements for Vietnam and we have a chat for Vietnam stuff like #base-camp

you will need the Vietnam role in id:customize

[fervent dagger]

Tried the new spas out. Seems like their scatter is way better when you fire into the observer radius thingy. Didn’t check if it was the same for regular arty but I’d assume so.

[sweet fjord]

I can't get the Vietnam role

[slate canopy]

You see this in Channels & Roles?

[sweet fjord]

Sorry aye, I found them. I skipped over it

[slate canopy]

There is another one for Vietnam history that's seperate if you're interested in it.

[fallow tinsel]

TIRED OF BEING DISCONNECTED OFF OF THE GAME

[gusty venture]

So

How is it after all the updates

[slate canopy]

Update tomorrow too 😉

[lucid rapids]

doesn't crash at all on PS5 for me anymore, even less than pre-U18

[civic dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/network-connecting-online-zoom-loading-gif-3961705328869595724

https://tenor.com/view/error-404-err-er-page-not-found-broken-link-gif-10459090690633378712

https://tenor.com/view/i-thought-we-had-a-connection-connection-i-thought-there-was-something-believe-assume-gif-15789976

[slate canopy]

Please don't spam gifs.

[empty steppe]

Yeah I’m the only one with the permission everyone

[slate canopy]

.... No. 😒

[empty steppe]

https://tenor.com/Gic5zqH9y8.gif

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