#mess-hall
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yes
Pull them out
U19
Guess that kinda depends on the PTE and the following feedback
Yup, hopefully it looks good. š
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The KV2 and the BrummbƤr are they going to be playable tanks or artillery at the spawn?
Both
Kind of
krupp? 
Did they specify whether artillery squad(s) is limited to only one?
no
however, the dev brief is using the pronoun game and is only using the singular noun, squad
it's more likely to be limited to 1
even though it really probably should be 2
It should be mortarsā¦
The only bad thing I might foresee is people fighting over artillery, like how people are disappointed when recon doesnt do their job. Right now it's versatile
hence why it should really be a limit of two
it looks like the intent will to be "use HQ arty" or "spa"
which to an extent makes sense
Well, I'd rather have no static arty so that all players are in the fight, rather than up to 20 players of the entire match fighting over arty in the backlines
if you have one squad using one asset and it gets destroyed they can switch to the other one
but ehhhh, i can see people prefering one over the other
leading to one asset getting unused for the duration of the battle
it should be a 75mm field howitzer that can be placed like the AT gun imo
Or 3 mortar squadsā¦
Like itās literally perfect for what we need
I've wanted that too. Infantry needs some tool to destroy spawns. Or maybe just majorly buff the flamethrower so it destroys spawns in a large aoe
Idk why their doing this weird buildable arty stuff
it's mechanically the same thing except that a mortar can be reduced to a one man crew
And arty canāt?
realistically you need a loader and someone esle to pull the fire cord
a mortar is fired by loading it
Infantry support guns, light anti tank guns (free to build), mortars, static MGs... gimme
Iāve made the arguement that all of these should be free to build with ammo being the āsuppliesā needed to operate the weapon
Instead of building the gun with supplies and having ammo right then you can place the gun for free but need ammo from an outside source like supports, jeeps, commander drops, to be able to use the gun
Or just buff garrisons so you get free buildables within the 50m radius of it
Since SPAs will also destroy forts, apparently, they really need to make them cost much less, and reduce the build time. It's just not worth it to waste 10 minutes on something that the enemy glosses over instantly
They really need to make level 3ās immune to arty damage if this is the case as well
Such a weird direction to take the game. Most players dont even seem to know that engineers can just dismantle enemy forts
That way thereās more of a reason to build them up fully
They can???
bruh
hold f gameplay
riveting stuff
:D
well sure, holding F shouldnt destroy anything. at least make people whack them with a shovel or a hammer.
it doesnt matter, since engies have satchels you dont do that dismantle thing anyway
at least people stopped saying that turning the tank engine off makes the repair faster. there were more myths back in the day but i forgot what they were
the amount of lvl 100+ players who have no clue is crazy
youd think that they get bored before they reach that if they have no idea about the game, but no
yes
but if i were under that impression id drop the game long before lvl100 because its lame
i mean if you play like this even fortnit4e is better
if we lost its because commander didnt build garrisons :^)
it may be a case, if the CMD didn't ever build any backups. CMD role is the best suited for that kind of stuff.
but ofc, he can't do it alone
right š
This
even then... depends on under which circumstances the kills were made
it does, but the devs beg to differ š”
āMore cosmetics and maps!ā
And a storefront
Still canāt believe that had the gall to add that
Must have been high on the priority list as well since it got added quick
should add clippy to tell players "you seem to have died a lot recently. maybe you should consider another spawn?"
about that... sometimes I notice "something" missing on their new deathScreen š
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/625321517487489034/1436794704367714354/20251108100136_1_-_Copy.jpg?ex=6910e6d7&is=690f9557&hm=11a3e5fcca43ffea37e8f067883b926fd20d4be6cdddbf29adcf312aba228787&=&format=webp&width=1872&height=489
Cause of death: -
I guess I had a stroke that was shot by the enemy
Iād love that ngl
Next map has a 3 story building, so
"Players will need to look up as often as they look ahead, with enemies able to take positions in ways never before seen in Hell Let Loose."
no way
this changes everything
I've never been shot from an elevated position in HLL before
That's waht I was getting at
*"you seem to have died a lot recently. maybe you should consider getting better at the game?"
The devs try to create buzz and fanfare for very...menial things
NEVER BEFORE SEEN is actually kinda hilarious
Omg 3 whole storyās!?! The devs spoil us
HLL Dating DLC
sadly it's all they have left, since there are no any real super new things... and the changes are usually buggy
if they provided super quality, their work would speak for itself, without any need for the comments of that type
They should make me head dev
i can imagine it though if you can build OPs in the upper floors. just horrible house to house fighting. and then you get shot from the other side of the street that also has an OP
Oh boy thatās a scenario
it's going to be a RATS IN MY WALLS map, isnt it
Canāt wait for firefights that last way to long because they have spawns in the building
another reason to limit the amount of local respawns... and ammo
Carentan 100x
Planting a satchel on pretty much any building in HLL will destroy anyone inside through the walls
unless it's the big-a?s building of Pavlov's type
you can do that in SME and Utah buildings iirc. that's another inconsistent thing, some maps let you build inside and others dont
even that's not really safe, you're going to get obliterated
not rly, even the satchels have limited range
one would have to place the satchel higher than on the ground floor for the explosion to reach the top.... and still may not reach all the most distant areas of the building
maybe the SPAs will have a similar effect
Outposts no longer supply ammo past half stocks and donāt give any explosives while only having 30-50 respawns
that's what i wished for. having to satchel each house would take a stupid amount of time, even if you had 8 satchel players ready to go and do it one after the other
Then garrisons can act about the same as now but only hsve like 200 spawns
would be probably too much
we have to consider the fact that OPs are the primary spawn and therefore garries don't need that high ticketCount
deal with the SPA or get your house blown up, kiddo
how fast will their projectiles be
we will see on Monday
maybe š
unless they will cancel/delay the dev branch too
about that... I have still mixed feelings
the non-workers (europeans) will get first dibs
because by the devBranch system, they are moving the responsibility for availability of the testing servers on the communities if I understand correctly
what if there wouldn't be any community willing to host a devBranch server... because it would be hard to seed... and they are paying for it
by devBranch servers, they are efectivelly splitting the community, making the seeding in general harder
240m/s for the german, at least 432 for the KV2... if they do it correctly. i think
what's that compared to any of the other tanks
Diffrent projectile speed? Are we sure this is even possible?
Im not...
i'm not convinced these are anything other than reskinned tanks
that are just more cumbersome for the sake of it
and stronger curve for the projectiles
Probably a fusion of tanks and HQ arty
But what do I know....
-# Wind wishels: Nothing
at least no infantry will be able to control the arty of whatever type anymore
...thx to the new squad type
And if the commander doesn't want them to waste ammo he can not give it to them
but... there should be a free way of rearming. It needs to be more manual and time taking, but the possibility shoudl be there.
the actual pacing of HLL matches is still lost on the devs
now if there won't be any commander, there won't be any static arty
If they build a new artillery gun it might have full ammo
Which is completly fine
which would make the rearming usseless - out of ammo? no problem, let's rebuild the gun
that makes it a problem
We should make the game less teamplay heavy, just because weird people arent able to play the game...
Does anyone know how many supplies it will take to build and how many supplies the artillery support player will have
i mean, we had the support redeploy to get their supplies instantly back for how many years
Imo the part of Commander rearming Arty makes the most sense of all the changes.
exactly the reason why there should be an additional way of rearming, maybe via supplies from the sup trucks... or some other special and yet natural way
Unlike keeping arty in the game, together with SPAs and Commander Arty
That can be done by one person tho...
Hmmm, stop parroting what I've said
what have you said?
That field guns should be supplied by ammo crates
š¦ react this man ar once
@finite berry @nova pivot
I sommon thee!!!
we would need a new/bigger ammo crate for that. That's why I would prefer the sup trucks' supply boxes.
Put it in the transport truck
It makes as much sense as the jeep
why limit the ammo at all? lives arent limited either. just balance the time it takes to deal damage
a cooldown between xy amount of fired shells would do, yeah - unlimited but with cooldowns
because cumbersome step-by-step gameplay is 'teamwork' apparrently
i mean resources arrent limited either...
awkward, 'do-this-then-that' gameplay is so immersive and fun
There is just a certain amount you can get, but thats the same for Kills/Deaths as well
especially when it's at odds with the game's pacing
Immersive?
because meatgrind is possible, the game moves too fast for realistic hoops. even forts, as simple as they are, require too much time and effort to be really useful
the masses making these sorts of suggestions do not comprehend that
This is valid.
However, the point of ammo would be to balance good teams in a Sense.
If you're using a lot of ammo to kill people but not being efficient when you run out of ammo you'll have to slow down.
If the game is like a tug if war running low on ammo is like pulling less towards your side.
If the other side is pulling at a constant strength they have a chance to relatively increase their strength to pull towards them.
From having played commander, and given I like using the arty strike, the flow of munitions already achieved this effect
If you're using a lot of ammo to kill people but not being efficient when you run out of ammo you'll have to slow down.
and when you keep killing and hammering them down hard, the game wouldn't want you to slow down right? š
helluva balance
There's meaningful choices to make as commander about how much munitions to use
how much an arty guy kills, shouldn't be connected to the cooldowns
Well it's not directly, only indirectly.
wanna shorter cooldowns? fire from a location where you are in range of ammo node
Bleh
all hail the holy nodes
true, because they are poorly implemented
but not because the exist
Ehhhh
we wouldn't need them ofc... if the garrisons would be upgradable to supplement the nodes' functions
and when it comes to that, simply store resources inside them
and spent them for rearming the respawned players and the ability to respawn itself
depleted ammo inside the garri? no more respawns rearmed
depleted manpower inside a garri? no more respawns at it at all
the game is much too far gone for a total thematical revamp like that
true, but still... if the devs didn't lie and are truly working on the local tickets system, we may see something in that sense yet
we'll see... or we won't
They said that?
Oh god... that would be one time of being on this discord if they release a Ticket system
Hence why the guns shouldnāt cost anything to build, instead needing outside ammo supplies like jeeps or commander drops
Rearm 'gameplay' š„±
Resupply 'gameplay' š„±
Wait for thing to happen first before you can go out and have fun..'gameplay' š„±
well, they said something they explored my local tickets idea in one of the QA or somewhere
The holy meatgrinder is being attacked!!!
and that they would implement if first in a new testing gamemode
Someone call the Crusaders!!!
Honestly getting a proper ammo truck would be nice
#sup-trucks
They said they were doing a global tickets game mode
I don't recall that
The idea of local tickets hadn't occurred to them
Or they make a simple Supply/ammo system as in other games.
Also make the transport trucks on snow maps have the canvas covering so the soliders donāt get cold
Iād be fine with that
It was the answer to to your question on streaming
yes, but global? I would have remembered if they specifically said that.
They did
I will have to rewatch.
They said they were working on global tickets game mode
It was a āsecret gamemodeā where they were going to experiment with global tickets
Bleh
Much rather local tickets
I know they said they were working on a tickets gamemode, but I rly don't recall they mentioned "global".
I will rewatch it tomorrow, I need to refresh it anyway.
now... the bed awaits again
Huh?
but whatever is the case... as long as there will be tickets, depletion of which won't cause a straight victory or defeat, I'll take them... no matter how they will officially call them
Yes
Just turn classes like AR, Assault and MG, and some loadouts into replenishing pools that your squad/team runs out of. Could then balance factions by the volume of these pools if they so wished. It wouldnt disturb the flow of the game, but would reward teams that stay alive, and we'd see less automatics.
also give the commander an ability to turn an entire squad into some special type like paras so everyone in it gets a FG42. whether they like it or not š¤Ŗ
Give german spotter a FG42 and take it away from AR man
Give german SL a shotgun.
idc about historical accuracy
This man gets it
anyone want to tank swquad 30 mins
the game's got enough anachronisms and fantasy gamepaly elements to where a german SL NEEDS a shotty.
Make it happen, devs
found it, true that
but at the same time they said, they want to do/try that "first" - unlock global tickets as concept, and then possibly tie the tickets to the spawnwaves... which obviously couldn't be able to be considered global if tied to individual spawnpoints - and that's how I see it too, the global tickets test just as a 1st step towards something more
?
remember that objective gamemode?
yeah
anyway, with the pace of development and constant problems with the low quality & performance +stability, HLL will probably lose dev support before they implement such things
but for now, see ya tomorrow
I've already done it, please don't ban me again
Game is cooked
Overcooked? 
Average german joking
Yes
Yes
Yes?
The joke is not funny
Its not supossed to be funny
Do you know what is funny?
Just wait another 2.5h and then the memes shall be released
No
Am I?
Are you suuuure?
Yes William
For real even my second stupid name is better than any name with W
Is it Arschloch ?
Jajaja
It isnt
Why can I insult in German but not in English?
Torken
Because I just ban everyone who is using the german word
š„²
@ tehpolarbearr please ban him, he is cursing at me.
No
Te quiero mucho William
This is something niceāļø
@worthy charm
Anyway, Back to English I don't want to get banned
I dont believe you
I think its time to take gif rights away again.
Why
Yall are terribly bad with them
Nah
Smite tha floppa
That one was perfectly used
||Tƶrken||
šÆ
When this month is smolensk coming to ps5
Never this month, got delayed
December
In the last part of dev brief (summary)
Dev brief 210
.divagree
Not in the ` text. Try again š
Thank you @slate canopy
Guys... It's been an entire month... I disconnect at least once EVERY GAME. This is NOT FUN. It is UNPLAYABLE. Get it the FK together.
What kind of error you getting?
I don't think it matters. Sorry, but not sorry. The game costs money. I'm a consumer, not an employee.
Does it say "Connection lost to host" or something else?
Seem fine from here: https://www.battlemetrics.com/servers/hll?sort=-players&countries=US
Anyone know what the music for America will be if they win the game in HLL Vietnam ?
No clue.
What do you think
š¤·āāļø I dunno, I'm not a big history person and not sure of what would be time acccurate music.
They have a plethora to choose from, and should probably go the route of BF vietnam where very map had a unique song
YES!!!!
I don't think it will matter. Judging by their work with this game who's to say that you will hold a solid connection to see the end of a match? Don't waste your money on Vietnam. It's just another corperate cash grab.....
I can See through walls and im on playstation i dont have any mods or hacks and i dont want to get banned can anyone help
can you post a picture of what it looks like?
Where do i post it i dont have permissions
post it in there https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1432770693086445640
I cant send picture its difficult to see in pictures because the outline is basicly invisible only the outline of the body, imagine it like an invisible person infront of you that isnt fully invisibleā¦
i get what you mean, i believe others have posted in there about that issue too
Yes its very difficult to describe
Just don't abuse the system and you would be fine, you won't get banned for something they have ingame as a mistake unless you purposely use it to gain the advantage in the game
That is true i will not thats why i posted it i dont want to make the game unfair i love tve game
yeah you'll be fine, enjoy the games
Floppa better
This is a new kind of rot
Pacific
No counter for you
Based
My neighbors dog is an identical twin to that one and I mean identical. š
FriendlyNikolai, the longtime and well-known tactical FPS YouTuber, just passed away...
I know lots of people watched his HLL content over the years
I played so much Stellaris in my life...
That button is long smashed into oblivion.
it's not a warcrime if you havent signed the convention
Mines š¤«
Dont like everyone uses mines?
Back then and these days?
Or am I stupid again?
Can I say it?
Only Russia and America didn't sign the agreement to not use air delivered mines.
I asked for permission and I didn't even use the naughty word lmao
Hello, can I DM you? I have a potential bot/scamer to report
There is a thing called Barricade where if you are banned from one, they make a report and you can get banned from others if they feel inclined to do so.
But it would tell you why and how to appeal
If someone is reported, each server's admin team has to review and decide for themselves
Based on that response I feel it was probably warranted

not every admin lets people talk BS as long as the mods here :}
hahaha
watch the door
Frech
š¢
thats why you cant play on everyones servers
I think I have that game š«”
Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby
did they fix the Crashes in update 18 yet?
banning cheaters or griefers from all servers i can understand, but if it's just something he said, then rather than every individual just muting someone they dont want to hear, it's admins deciding that nobody must hear them either
dang
Every server gets to decide for themselves if they ban or not...
Most of the submissions are just blatant racist or homophobic words
what of it?
Ahh yeah, sorry, my mistake. I didn't realise you thought racism and homophobia was acceptable
not building garris is not acceptable
the point of insults is to be offensive and you'll only make it worse for yourself and the people you're trying to shelter, to the point where it reaches comical levels of experienced trauma when someone hears a word they dont like
to the point where people have been murdered, and its seen as justified because the murderer was offended
only because they've been taught to be offended
It's okay, I know you're just upset you can't be homophobic in HLL
mf is just proving his point lol
He literally never said that, and you know what's so bad about your reply? You know it.
My guy, it's an argument on the HLL discord
Relax
So?
I will because he never said that
It's probably a mixture of stupidity and rage bait on your part, but wrongly (especially when you know it's wrong) accusing someone of being racist/homophobic/whatever is worse than actually being racist/homophobic/whatever
cmon, we all know he doesnt troll just a little
ofc it makes sense to get rid of those guys who always get on others nerves
like literally always
I mind flower hat aunt mentality. If some words are the worst, then I'll use them when I like, even if I personally have no problem with what they describe. The more it's banned the more meaningful the insult gets, moreso to those who want to ban it, detached from the original meaning.
pov, germany 1944
US, 2025
Not necessarily arguing against this by the way ā¬ļø
touche
To each his own. I find it funny when stoners babble in HLL, or when americans have their sexual jokes in command chat.
thats not just an american thing
well i havent heard a german yell things about daddy
but for US it seems to be more universal, in germany its on certain communities
it happens just like that
i mean all those closeted guys have to vent somewhere, dont they
It's okay, one day you'll understand
Reminds me of an SL I had on two separate occasions who always said "nice work, keep poppin' that š for daddy" and called the enemies "dirty democrats" lmao
Was it dumb and inappropriate? Sure, but it was so random that it was genuinely funny. Better to just laugh it off instead of making a fuss about it
not sure game would be better if that wasnt a bit restricted....
many more would do it, it would get boring and take away focus from the game
I don't mind it. As long as it's just messing around/doesn't get personal, who cares
depends how much, no one cares about some remark now and then
Not many more would do it. Most people simply wouldn't do it anyway, no matter whether it's allowed or not
being told off by that many people and still thinking they are all wrong :}
:}
also, you wouldnt suffer someone as crazy as you from the other side :}
Stop pinging me, I don't want to talk or interact with you.
Neither am I
mf is incapable of differentiating between me as a person and a reference to a character from a f u cking Jurassic World fanfiction (good fanfiction btw, highly recommend giving it a read)
is that like furries but with scales
Please be nice š
No? It's a fanfiction based on the first JW movie, and honestly, the fanfiction is a billion times better than the movie is based on; like, better ending, better character development, better plot, just overall better
what's there to have fanfiction about in the jurassic world franchise?
is it fanfiction of the book or of the movie
i can't read
Of the movie. There are no JW "books" anyway, not in the way that JP was based on a book.
can anyone help me here i just got the game on steam and no servers are popping up and im not on the public testing version
This kid is definitely to young to be playing this game lmao
https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1437005247276126291
PTE tomorrow ?
dev branch
no more PTEs
dev branch will be on permanently, unlike the PTEs
at least... so they say
and it will begetting the dev updates, before they will get to the normal branch
Greetins to all! Game suggestion
In this moment personal mines are prettu much useless what comes to winter and sand maps. They are to visible to enemy. Can we all agreed that? How about some graphic weaking to less visible in future update?
Hi! Welcome. You should post this in #1098158460463480842 š
graphic tweaking... more like we should be able to bury them into the ground instead of placing them on top of it
at least where possible - ground, grass, mud...
Hey sam
How are you doing?
hi man, getting ready for bed once more heh
Are you going to play the "pte" tomorrow?
just cut the mine model in half, height-wise, so it appears buried
yep, I want to see the SPAs (if we can even call them that) and the new squad type & static arty changes
I'll be waiting for your feedback ā¤ļø
I don't think my feedback will be any much different than my pre-feedback I already shared
Yea but it will be based in actual facts and not guesses
still... if there won't be any big changes in my feedback, I won't be writing anything new
We will see tomorrow
yep
Or give players a shovel that can bury mines over a few seconds along with other capabilities
Kill la kill posting time?
Let's not spam gifs in messhall. Thanks.
What are you playing?
bf6
Oh nice
Yeah, William is setting a bad example.
Wait a second guys š«ø
š«·
Did you realize that after this update we can start requesting the roadmap?
I know
You already prepared all the mems for it?
and tha gifs?
O yeah boy
wsg
The floppa is going to get the roadmap one way or another
is vietnam gonna be a dlc?
No
Full game
Next year,no confirmed date
Around 50ā¬
Different dev team
i was about to say if it's a dlc the devs better gift it to me cuz im aint buyin
It's not s DLC
ALR
Weāre getting a roadmap?
I already know what its going to say
Good question
āIntroducing X map, we already know it from leaksā
āReworking X mechanic, itāll be a minor numbers tweakā
āReworking X, itās horrible done and not well madeā
āIntroducing X map, actually kinda coolā
are there players who keep having constant stutters on maps like Carentan? for some reason the game runs really bad for me on that map like i'd have 1000 ping. i've heard a few days back that certain maps have some problems. Is there anything that can be done?
Try DX11?
it's not that. i tried it even but that was a "fix" for old pc's
Graphics up to date?
yea like i said: it's just carentan so far. never had issues before like this where the game freezes for a split of a second every 2-3 seconds. other maps (from what i've played recently so far) are ok but Carentan keeps doing this for me
never had performance issues like this before
I understand, I'm simply giving ideas.
Maybe clearing your steam cache. Maybe it's something else. I don't know. I'm not an expert. #1271718922734796865 is the best place to read for suggestions previously given (and post your own issues) and #1270189497719586908 has different solutions for known issues.
Ancient Teutonic genes
Let's... be careful talking about stuff like that.
I don't think Hitler ever compared the French to the Jews
If you wanna talk of history, you know where to take it š
Discord moderator moment
I'm just chillin', watching football.
why would you allow him to talk BS there ?
what are you mods all doing?
By normal branch I mean the normal branch when we don't have any experimental dev branch selected:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/625321517487489034/1437307902141661204/HLL_beta_branch.jpg?ex=6912c4cb&is=6911734b&hm=6f453471f54765116ecadc5d4764bc356205bfe4c9bf4b592a886c7ba4ddb041&=&format=webp
oh I see TehPolarBear has already shown it too
When console get pte
We dont even have a PC PTE anymore :}
Its more a Steam thing...
I seen
Funny cuz it still won't fill up. Dunno how there gonna run it under 1 client unless they ain't changing nothing major
Test environment usually ran on a separate client
Again people wanna test, but they dont want to seed.
Thats probably why communitys can host servers in the test environment.
Change there dogwater servers then
Idk how ir gonna work with no client updates unless they hide it in game
But dataminers will find it easy then
Stop posing
Ninja is trolling again
Those Console players...
Where can I download the server binaries ?
First you have to delete system 32
The rest happens on its own
-# /s

But it's a good question imo.
Why is the binaries not available ?
Why is it restricted to a number of private paid hosters ?
I'm native american
On multiple occasions we got told that HLL/T17 doesn't take margin from server hosting rents.
But why would they not make available binaries to more people then ? Quality control could be an argument but most people play on servers they have favorites and self curated anyways so it doesn't really make sense.
Im sure a lot of communitys would like to host themselfes... probably would negate some of the risks like the recent ddos attacks.
Probably safety issues, but idk nothing for sure
nobody knows, the time was not specified
If the reason is safety it's a bad reason, security by obscurity (aka not make the binaries avalaible in order to hide vulerabilities) is not a good engineering mentality.
I doubt they will change it
These issues are something that should have been fixes in early access
(Assuming you even want to fix them as a dev studio)
So it's safe to assume if T17 and the various hosts pull the plug on HLL because it's not profitable enough we could end up without access to any servers.
That won't happen
How are you so sure ?
Look at games like The Crew
And the hundreds of multiplayer games affected https://stopkillinggames.wiki.gg/wiki/Dead_game_list
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Theoretically T17 could pull the plug, Especially for official servers. But for community servers the cost is on the community and as long as there's players there will be people paying for servers.
T17 has shown that they won't give up HLL any time soon
Plus this, exactly
There's basically 0 reason for T17 to revoke GSPs access to the server files because granting access to GSPs doesn't cost them anything.
Do you know if they have contracts to host the game ?
I don't know the details. There's likely some sort of agreement though. Only thing that's been confirmed numerous times is that T17 takes no share from GSP sales.
Exemple ?
A 2026 2027 roadmap ?
No one but them know the details. That's the problem.
If T17 executives say that the game is not profitable enough and they want to pull the plug to focus on something else, I don't see why they wouldn't.
I'm not saying it will happen next months...
In that case they would just cease development though?
Maybe shut down the official servers after a while too
But the game can still be played on community servers long after
They could do it abruptly. Most executive decision are immediate and affect games on short notice.
If they let hosts keep the binaries after the contract ends
Which will most likely not happen from an intellectual property stand point.
But this game is currently not on the right tracks for long term availability.
Between the frequency of update and their overall clunkiness with the unacceptable level of bugs and crashes.
It is fair to assume this game is not receiving the care it needs in order to keep it at cruising speed.
That list is so misleading. It features Battlestations: Pacific as "Dead" with no further notes although that game mainly is a singleplayer game AND has a very active modding community (which means that a "cannot be played" is plain wrong)
The online aspect works ?
The fact that the CM is so active and that they continue pumping out content
That's the thing, it is not a multiplayer game
If they decides to dump HLL, they'd simply do it instead of investing money into making two updates prior
Wikipedia says it is
Is it wrong as well ?
Yes
2-8 online multiplayer
The multiplayer aspect seems to have been dead for so long that you guys have forgotten it has even existed LMAO
For thats I would have needed to know it to begin with.
I never said it didn't exist, I said it's not the game's focus
You are changing the premise
I'm not. I never said BSP has no multiplayer. I only said it's misleading to call the game unplayable when it MAINLY is about a singleplayer mode
Because it's still profitable enough to invest "this much".
And I just checked, according to Wikipedia, the multiplayer game modes are even playable offline against bots lol
Which brings me back to my initial point, calling BSP dead/unplayable because its online services are down is very misleading
Do you know if Multiplayer was a big aspect when it was available ?
In 2009 2010
Do you know if people were mad when it was shutdown and when it happenned ?
Yes.
The multiplayer (note the words Multi and player) aspect is not available.
When you remove content people who bought a game for after the day of purchase without providing them with alternative it's unacceptable.
No.
Agree to disagree.
Disagreeing on what ?
That multiplayer is still available on Battlestation : Pacific ?
That's the point I'm trying to make, BSP is a singleplayer game that also offers a multiplayer experience alternatively. People did buy it for the singleplayer experience.
It being unacceptable. I'll elaborate on it later, I have classes now.
To be fair people also buy CoDs for the Story...
-# Not my cup of tea bur if you like it...
I think that stopped a long time ago lol
Did they ? Even if they did, if they advertised the multiplayer aspect and two person bought it for it it's still unacceptable.
Maybe... idk, the last cod I played was a few years ago
Did people only bought it for the single player aspect. Be honest, and with a 2009 pov
It gets more likely the more you go back in time.
2009 was the era of CSS and TF2
These days many see a mp as something fundamental and necessary
^^
You can't say people wouldn't buy a game in 2009 with multiplayer available to not want to play it online.
And the era of dragon age origins
And WoW
It depends... on what you want
I personally need a mp, but I can see what elise is talking about
Even though Battlestations: Pacific was preceded by Battlestations: Midway, there's something a bit old school about this hybrid action and strategy game. Those who cut their teeth on the Commodore 64 as a gaming machine may remember the classic Beach Head. The goal in that game is to land your troops on a beach successfully, but to do so you ha...
Read the multiplayer part of the review @finite berry
I think you are just blind to the fact that it was a big aspect of the game at the time
Also WOW is active till this day... using an mmo that is still gping kinda misses the point.
Tf2 did not see a update in a century
Dude, it's IGN, of course they're reviewing everything for the simple fact it's there
After the Bf2042 and arc raiders Review people shouldnt trust IGN
Those two Videos were terrible
IGN in 2009 wasn't the same company as it is now.
And there are more reviews
It's just one exemple
Their review about Alien Isolation was funny too lol
Dont keep 2025 tinted glasses on when talking about old games with dead multiplayer saying no one bought the game for it.
I do say that because, again, BSP is obviously a singleplayer game that just happens to have a multiplayer as well
You two got completely diffrent opinions on what is the definition of a dead game...
You should have agreed to disagree
It's like saying people might buy HLL for the "singleplayer" experience of shooting in the training range
Removing a feature available at launch is still removing a feature.
No matter how small you think it is
Did that already lol @worthy charm
Valid, I just think that's not necessarily an issue. Again, I'll elaborate on it later
Sure I will gladly hear you on how it's could be a non issue
Anyone know if this new experimental build is on the pte branch of the game or a beta branch of the base game?
Base game
Ough so I pre installed the pte for nothing smh
Probably will install something as well when you change.
We dont know when they deploy it sadly
Rip the pte branch
They probably will still use it at some point
Id rather it to work like this than to have an whole other client that take up 100GB on my ssd
if they remove PTE entirely it will stop half the new steam players installing the PTE instead of main game by accident
PTE today ?

I wonder - with the HLL testing moving off to the normal client... does that mean we can uninstall PTE client for good without fearing we miss a PTE (since there won't ever be PTEs anymore)?
Maybe a question to @fluid pawn . āļø
If PTE client wouldn't ever be used anymore, good for us... it's been eating 55+ GB. But I am better asking because I wouldn't want to uninstall it unless it's rly going not to be used anymore.
Ben: "I am not getting paid enough for this š©" š
Ben: "The team is on vacation right now PTE is after GTA6 release"
Well... the dev branch is supposed to be put to work today (in EU terms). It's 12:42 already and there are still not even news on the exact time of release... š
Benito! š
We'll be assessing how the next week or so goes with the experimental branch, however I think internally we like the idea that experimental steam branch can be for more regular testing with less polished builds of the game or certain mechanics, and then the PTE app being more of a finalised version of an update, etc. For now we're going to use the experimental branch (likely up until Update 19) and then looking ahead to Update 20 and beyond it may be a mix of both.
I'll have retired before GTA6 comes out at this point ahah
hotfix 3 before or after beta branch?
another good Q
and also, when exactly is the hotfix 3 planned to be released... roughly exactly š
and also when exactly we can expect the experimental branch to go online today
Hotfix 3 looks to be ready to go out tomorrow (I'll get this confirm though dw)
To my knowledge HF#3 will include a few minor client-side crash issues related to in game pop-up prompts and use of the admin camera, a server crash issue inside FRigPivot when updating actors, and a fix to the RCON tool to punish a player that had resulted in that player not seeing the cause of death or the message left by the admin.
@fluid pawn did test get delayed?
Experimental Branch will go live today. Just getting the known bug lists post ready
ok thanks
Thanks for keeping us updated! š
so with the experimental branch, it's not delayed or anything, it's just releasing later today š
was just playing now, the game didn't last even 30m and it booted everybody with "connection lost to host"
That hotfix better be good guys... that hotfix better be good.
queue's is everything wrong with modern gaming..
waiting almost 20 mins to join a server
but what about Smolensk
experimental is smolensk. I was expecting it to be up already though
what time the pte
that was a Qonzer issue, not a game crash
did your servers just crash too or something?
...but not all of them
they're not all on the same machine
When will the playtest drop? Do we know?

Give me exact time when play test drops
never
now it happened on another PBS server, everybody lost connection to host
did you experience anything again too?
retired? in this economy?
Ben my friend you will be HLL community manager for the rest of your life š
despite my love for this topic I must say it does not belong here... move it to X or Reddit
i lowkey just dont gaf what he thinks
now back to trashing HLL devs
update 15 trailer š„
When play test?
isnt the playtest pc only?
bro called it "X" 
Enjoy some fun "tank rework" physics while waiting for the experimental branch
https://youtu.be/r0cZWDJ6r_c?t=667
European Community League
I can see it even if I dont play it
no
I don't really know where the servers run nowadays
the servers are running?
Will we get info when experimental branch playtest releases before you retire?
Someone know when PTE updateļ¼
next year 

dunno probly not
its out when its out
maybe we just have to keep asking for horses
Sound six
i can just play gamma until the pte drops tbh
Guys when Smolensk
idk
š¢

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1317135960588156978/1437438526391324702/image.png?ex=69133e73&is=6911ecf3&hm=cb00664bd0bb1180be2a3e61dfecb80099b362176188feb2b32a1ba87e2d6cdc not sure if Qonzer uses multiple IPs for the same machine, but this suggests Circle 2 is close to PBS servers, the rest aren't
How'd the PTE go?
not happened yet
not out yet
Oh i thought it was Friday. Missed the last tele i guess.
Hey remember when T17 wanted to not do PTE's lol
probably
yessir, sorry was having some lunch. back now and will get that info out 
It might be an announcement saying we gotta wait until friday again now since it isn't good enough or smt
it won't be dw
hope its not until next monday š¤
im exited even if i cant play
There won't be any problems like Friday, will there?
When PTE?
i hope 
before or after 5pm
I cant wait all day, training in 2 and a half hours
german
soviet are bad except for svt40, ppsh and satcel, mosin nagant is also good
yes but its semi auto
G43 kinda doodoo
what?
So have I
kursk, stalingard goated
But after going back to ro2. HLL g43 doodoo
I hope smolesnk is goated too
Killing krauts is quite fun šš»
No, not even there. Even in the Red Army men heavily outnumbered women. Just keep it as it is.
It's not rage bait, I just don't like ww2 Germany āļø
Ah, I thought they had big numbers
Shouldn't dehumanise your enemy tho (and yes, I know this is just a video game).
True (Lend-Lease + second front).
Not really.
Fix squad 44 for me please, now it wont load past the first loading screen
Squad 44 made it to console?
Then i can play both hll and squad 44
Says the dude with the āanti-anti fascistā discord tags. This place really does attract em
Fascists lowkey pmo
Someone needs to take a chill pill
Ask that question on the Squad 44 Discord in the support section to give some details lol
Bro stfu š
Luckily not.
I can smell this dude through my screen
I feel like squad 44 on console would need a lot of optimisation
Though I hope they expand the pacific
No
Bringing Squad 44 to console equals the point where HLL went free on Epic Games.
I didn't even know HLL went free on epic lol
Can you just drop it, guys; like, you're not going anywhere
Itās only one guy
In January this year, I think.
Wild, i remember getting HLL back in 2018 Or 2019
Does the box art look cool at least
it caused this spike in January due to the massive influx of new players.
On the downside, it resulted in a critical drop of skill, team cohesion and communication.
I remember the first Soviet pte. Lowkey was hype
its alright but i got hot drop and lethal tide with it
And the same would happen to Squad 44 if it got ported to console.
Itās a nah
Hey guys, I have a question that might be a bit silly. If I'm playing on Cloud Gaming, would it be on console or PC servers?
That is why you don't have access I guess
I think console
I guess pc.
I played on pc servers with my friend, who was using cloud gaming.
when pte comeš§
Is this Human being new here?
I love u more
Never
uWu
7W7
Uff
I'm probably wrong but aren't we getting mortars
Nah
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Thanks to both! Even with the differing answers lol
That is for Vietnam
Oh sick
ben said pte soon
I probably won't get Vietnam cuz rs2 still exists š
I hope it is soon
No it's not "sick" I want them for the ww2 š
Nah, arty rework and artly like tanks
I do too but we can only hope š
please pte
Nah we can only accept, it's never coming
š
dont let me do this
We have mortars at home.
Looks at SPGs
Remember a couple years ago when they showed ww2 generals with the commander menu
Welcome to the HLL discord, a place of Disillusionment and loss of hope
you're so weird dude
Or was that a fever dream š«©
Please dont start this again...
that was aprils fools
Yeah William assert dominance
Oh š
Like the ratte
Yes please, in my bed or in yours?
I dont think we should allow people like that in the server personally 
Best part of the day is when i see a ping in telegrams, please ben release the pte
oWo
still waiting for all the kickstarter items though. flamethrower tanks...
:3
bomb me tank
also was campaign mode like what rs1 campaign mode was like?
There is no campaign mode
no no
the april fools thing?
i mean like when bm was gonna add it, then decided not too
they never elaborated on campaign. or AA/AA vehicles. it was just a roadmap, then t17 took over.
well ik that, i thought it would like rs2 with early war, mid war, late war
ima be real I dont think the campaign mode would have worked unless it was particularly ambitious and large scale
idk how aa vehicles could even fit it
Brrrrt infantry
the one thing i did wish got added was the party system
i'd like to shoot down planes though, the spam of supplies and airheads is irritating. shooting one down should put it on a longer cooldown (or just remove airheads and supply drops)
Sounds weird... I would prefer would they finally add the Objective gamemode
pte when
didnt we get a pte for that awhile ago
acurrate ww2 campaign modes are not happening
@nova pivot please dont say never ive waited long enough
Erm?
Ok?
You always say never
Never
i hope its not liem that
it was more of a test of what they had worked on
I dont think the PTEs have been populated enough to really grasp how a full game would play out
Yeah we did, sadly no one played it, so only the 25 vs 25 maps were playable
noā¦
oh yeah true
Like the Poland map
But a total Offensive alternative or rework would be very good
People want testing but dont want to seed :}
i do really hope they didnt scrap the polish and finnish
I never got to test out that map š
I would prefer new weapons, tanks or maps over that honestly
They did
likely did
more likely to salvage anything they had worked on into something else
I'd rather better gunplay over new guns rn lol
We need more British on European theatre
real I want British D-day
or the commonwealth
give me caen or give me death
resistance at gold and juno wasent that fierce
doesnt matter
caen would be great arnhem too
i know a lot of people want japan
I'd personally love Sword and Gold along with pegasus bridge and Caen
Fact
Or Reichswald will be great too
I would enjoy a snow map for the British too
ive bin at arnhem many times you an still count the bulletholes in some buildings
Allies faction sucks, but we need more maps
Distanciate from them as much as you can
Nah is kinda goated
lowkey i tell hll fans if they like japan play rs1
Why? They're pretty good in game. I love British army in HLL
jap weapons would suck in this game
Sounds like skill issue
ultimately I think the biggest game changer would be subfactions
please please please the game desperately needs them
Some are good, but it just feels weird compared to other weapons
yeah it is i am selective
how come on winter maps u can use the rolled up sleeve german uniform lol
I dont have to push the trigger as hard as with other weapons
how come on summer maps you can rock white camo
And the summer uniform
feels weird
i really thought the devs might do map based cosmetics
trigger feels weird
remember when the british first dropped and El Alamein didnt have a subfaction so people were just wearing obscenely wrong uniform
It's not snow it's coca1N3
weapons are normal
Stg in the desert was peak hll
i bought the erbsenmunster today i love it
Remeber back when you had hair?
Low hit
i think the best dlc uniform is the luftwaffe infantry one
hyper realistic⢠Historically accurate⢠Milsim⢠ptsd simulator⢠buzzword buzzwordā¢
also why is the ROA in HLL?
Why not?
Normandy
Thats basicly the same thing
weeeelll
ohh, that makes sense
i got the zeltbahn hot drop pack with the game recently got the splintarn for my AT guy and the heer veteran is usualy what i roll with
Anyway, really why not? That's interesting unit of WW2
How long have British been in the game and we still have no controller vibration on most of their weapons? Some of us are very used to having that feedback. Fix it.
oh i agree, i just didnt know where the unit really would fit in
very uncommon unit and didnt really fight, all surrendered without much of a fuss
It doesn't fit
britsh 1st airborne would be cool
cough cough #1362489849239699526
