mess-hall

[bold gale]

Pacific

[proven totem]

Yes even on EU ones i get above 150 ping, i did try join Chinese ones but I didn’t understand the VC language 😅

[harsh heron]

Relax, americans join brazilian servers everyday and ask wether we speak german...if they can, you can as well

Try looking for the australian community, I understand they're pretty active

[past vortex]

sort by ping
it seems unlikely that just your location is to blame on such a high ping

[past vortex]

you dont get kicked for 150 ping

[proven totem]

Got kicked from EXD and UK Let Loose for that ping in last 30 mins

[past vortex]

seems strange, i can play in the US with 160 ping just fine

[nova pivot]

160 isn't a big deal

[past vortex]

its not ideal but playable

[nova pivot]

It's playable

[harsh heron]

Getting kicked in the last 30min seems to be a player issue, not a ping one...I don't know

[nova pivot]

A skill issue?

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[past vortex]

yea maybe he likes to take the halftrack while not speaking english or something :}

[silk igloo]

the ping in the server browser is still half of what it shows in game, right?

[limpid stone]

"Authentication time out 1/3" someone explain me how to fix it

[cyan saddle]

That's an anti cheat issue. If simply restarting your game does not fix it, try repairing EAC.

[past vortex]

not half
its the real ping
in game it shows ping+server and client latency

[indigo garden]

@spiral siren Operation Manatee

[spiral siren]

https://tenor.com/view/manatee-training-abdominal-gif-22993405

[mental oracle]

Rdg are taking over

https://tenor.com/view/snorbbler-snorbler-manatee-the-snorbler-the-snorbbler-gif-14493384683725054374

[round yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/manatee-aquarium-gif-3573824

[livid oriole]

Are there any active skirmish modes?

Like is there at least one populated skirmish server during peak hours or is that rare?

[warped prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-wait-gif-16738817422562026279

[prime sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/manatee-curious-swim-underwater-gif-3536359

[ember citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/manatee-discord-fantastic-gif-26931990

[zealous zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/swimming-manatee-slow-im-coming-tired-gif-14656489

[gaunt cedar]

Yes, Glows Blueberry Dreams seeds on weekends and most weekdays I think

[cloud abyss]

how can I fix the issue with not being able to connect to servers 90% of the time

[mental oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/manatee-oof-pout-cute-gif-663948920825315362

[pseudo verge]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-funny-manatee-sea-cow-gif-12216565

[finite dune]

Is extracting HLL's game files forbidden?

[gentle lintel]

I feel like the manatees may be better suited for #off-topic-mess-hall gentlemen

[cloud abyss]

any proper answers to why joining servers fails most of the time

[slate canopy]

Plus we don't need to spam gifs

[slate canopy]

If you have technical issues, try #1271718922734796865

[livid oriole]

What about offensive game mode only server? Are they usually always seeded?

The reason I’m asking is I’m moving from Xbox to PC and the Xbox servers only have warfare 90% of the time

[slate canopy]

There are some offensive mode servers.

Sometimes they are mixed into the servers with warfare too

[gray lagoon]

I think if you are playing on PC, the server Glow's Battlegrounds Blueberry Dreams is only skirmish mode. Right now it isn't seeded but oftentimes it is

[prime sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/fancy-seeing-you-here-fancy-seeing-you-here-gif-731657994011234919

[gray lagoon]

Oops, sorry I didn't see that message

[prime sonnet]

Sva on console do something to do with skirmish

[zealous zephyr]

I avoid offensive matches like the plague, you get some but the game play is more COD so not popular.

[bold gale]

Le Game Tactique

[real parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-star-citizen-rsi-gif-27231687

[sharp terrace]

.........

[analog apex]

so... Smolenks/mobileArtilley PTE today 👀

hopefully at 12:00

[echo karma]

Smolldik?

[main harness]

Looking forward to horse update today x

[nova oracle]

Last nights match on Carentan, we managed to pull it back

[nova oracle]

Horse armour when?

[nova oracle]

Mobile FLAK guns

[dense arch]

W game honestly

Perfect mix between realism and not too real. Like arma or ready or not, where it’s sometimes painful

Like you gotta be careful and peek or get your dome popped, but you can also just redeploy if so

[analog apex]

hardly 😏

[glossy echo]

pte?

[analog helm]

gm chat. Wen PTE ?

[analog apex]

time was not specified, but usually it is 12:00 (CET time, aka in 9 minutes from now atm.)

[analog helm]

thx fam

do you think it might be "experimental branch" or should i wait for the annoucement to download the files ?

[analog apex]

since they said it will PTE, it will be on the PTE client

[analog helm]

gotcha, gonna have to look into that

[analog apex]

but ofc... there is always a chance they won't put it on at the usual time, at point of which the time of PTE start will be unknown... we'll see in 6m

[analog helm]

cant wait !

these screens gave me RO2 vibes

hopefully framerates will be decent on muh potato 🤗

[analog apex]

In HLL? No reason to expect that - I am expecting the new map will line itself with the other most stuttery maps. But... we shall see...

[pine ember]

Why didnt they just make a open field map? I never had stuttering issues on Kursk

[wheat forum]

when PTE ?

[analog apex]

To add to the above: Smolensk is announced as the biggest HLL urban environment to date. Urban means it will have to be filled with assets with little open ground. And more assets => more stutters / worse performance in general. Or superoptimized with assets low-distance rendering problems.

[nova pivot]

Spoiler: the map is unplayable

[solar slate]

Brief?

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/spoilers-tom-holland-spiderman-no-spoilers-gif-12149359

[analog apex]

seems no PTE at 12:00 today...

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/floppa-big-floppa-cat-big-cat-caracal-gif-21069505

[fluid pawn]

It won't be live at 12 sorry

[worthy charm]

[nova oracle]

You know that’s how they’ll be used

[nova pivot]

We have noticed

[fluid pawn]

Looking at this afternoon. Will post more info

[nova oracle]

Why take the risk? When you can just sit back and kill tanks with direct artillery fire

[fluid pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/big-floppa-for-bk-gif-25780630

[worthy charm]

You got a PC now or what? :}

[analog apex]

all good... back in the dark times we could have easily ended up without PTE and without any reaction from the top, unlike now - so thanks for the info 🙂

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-it-when-you-call-me-big-poppa-big-floppa-cat-kiss-gif-25332009

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/floppa-big-big-floppa-kitty-review-gif-21384663

[nova oracle]

Are the mobile artillery guns able to use against tanks or are they fixed to firing into the air?

[nova pivot]

There is someone called Sam complaining

[nova oracle]

Uncle Sam

[worthy charm]

Never heard of him

[fluid pawn]

Changes are coming dw. Hopefully you all approve of what we're doing moving forward 🙏

[nova oracle]

Watch out it’s the American hell let loose player base 😂

Hell Let Loose : 1812

I’d play that FR

The British garrison is a picnic table with a cup of tea

There’s a mode where the American team have to roll the tea into the harbour and the defending British have to stop them

[pine ember]

When new desert map?

[fluid pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/sip-tea-angry-carl-jung-super-science-friends-gif-11539212

[fluid pawn]

Tobruk

[nova oracle]

Tobruk is desert SMDM

[worthy charm]

-# Dont make the AI angry. They will send Skynet

[nova pivot]

Tobruk is goated

[nova oracle]

Did you hear about an unknown object struct those Chinese astronauts and they’re now stranded in space?

We double angered the aliens

[pine ember]

Kasserine?👀

[pine ember]

Indeed

[nova oracle]

Hell let loose deserves to get best ongoing support

Every year it’s f^ckin Fortnite

[nova pivot]

Nah

I want Italians

[nova oracle]

Wasn’t it the Italians at Kasserine?

[pine ember]

Their Commander gets a surrender ability

[nova oracle]

The Americans time in Africa was well eventful

[pine ember]

Italians were there but the Germans won the battle

[nova pivot]

And if we are getting another Mediterranean map I would prefer sicily

I think they can use the same uniforms as the 8 army currently has

[pine ember]

Ortona

[nova oracle]

The Germans defeat of Tobruk is crazy

[pine ember]

What? Germans won at Tobruk

[nova oracle]

The fact the allies didn’t destroy the German AA is crazy

Did the sandstorm actually happen during the battle?

[nova pivot]

Probably no

[pine ember]

The allies werent as risk taking as the Germans or Soviets, they tried to move slow but steady to keep their own casualties low. For them it made sense since they had the resources for a long war

[nova oracle]

So God predictions, we thinking alien? Man in the clouds? Cosmic energy? A whole court of angels!

Satan is the originator of the Hollow Earth Theory

The trouble with religion is how much is metaphor, the inner earth, the corridors were singing

They were singing in German

Didn’t they find a monorail underneath Berlin?

[solar slate]

It's probably more like the fundamental matter is consciousness and God is the soul-body everything is a projection of

[nova oracle]

That’s why nazi leadership were trying to flee underground, a train to Agartha

We’re a mirror of God

A conduit for the living universe and we’re spiritually severed, because if you think about it, people used to live for 500 hundreds

If you look at someone over 100 they’re literally rotting, we certainly expire as humans

We are rotting from the moment we are born, the clock ticks

Anyways this is why we need Berlin in hell let loose, if I can’t have my last stand against the encroaching Reddit I mean soviets then what’s the point?

[solar slate]

How is reddit like Soviets

[nova oracle]

Well… Well

I mean they are very much like the soviets

[solar slate]

Performative loyalty to the party while feeling disillusioned, exploiting rampant corruption and societal mistrust & persecution?

Where's the heckin quirky humor and snarky fact checking

[gusty oriole]

Does anyone know when the PTE will go live?

[analog apex]

according to Ben, sometime in the (european) afternoon

so maybe in the next around 2-6 hours

[gusty oriole]

Appreciate that, thanks!

[bold gale]

Pacific

[analog apex]

You guys should forget the Pacific... it's clear that with Vietnam coming, they won't be bothering with another jungle themed theatre, and on a different engine where they would need to be making certain stuffs from ground up without being able to copypaste.

If HLL1 was ever upgraded to UE5... then... maybe.

[fluid pawn]

.counter

[analog apex]

HLL1 is looking more just at more maps for the already existing factions.

[tall kettle]

https://i.imgur.com/oqjthtn.png

[fluid pawn]

There we go

[analog apex]

you broke it!

aaah you fixed it 😄

or does it take a while normally? idk idc anyway 😄

[fluid pawn]

I spelt counter wrong initially, then edited it to the correct spelling, however the bot doesn't like edits

[novel geyser]

horses

there better be atleast one horse on smolensk

[analog apex]

the BM devs have promised us drive-able bicycles and civilian vehicles :/

former map size (full 2x2km) with this and other stuff just shows how HLL was always suppossed always be aiming towards the milsim direction (just the direction, nothing more), and not supposed to be aiming to be just a shooter without such open map elements

shame we got betrayed

(scammed? 😄 )

[solar slate]

the devs overpromised more like

[rapid vessel]

When will the playtest come online?

[hazy owl]

after the update, obviously

[analog apex]

expectedly in a few hours (it's suppossed to be European afternoon)

[spice zodiac]

Exactly time like always would be nice

[wheat forum]

I think 6 pm (UTC+1)

[analog apex]

that would be if we would expect the latest possible afternoon 🙂

because 7pm would not be an afternoon, that's pretty much an evening already

[spice zodiac]

@fluid pawn Update 15:00 CET please, have to get my daughter later on from the grandparents

[bold gale]

Iguanas at Pacific please

https://tenor.com/view/nod-lizard-agree-yes-nodding-gif-9548168203228088926

[fallow tinsel]

when does the pte start?

[plucky condor]

uhh guys, I'm new and I need a server, any suggestions?

[analog apex]

EU afternoon, exact time not specified yet

[analog apex]

basically any time now, /within around next 3-4 hours

[nova pivot]

Anything that is full, or close to being full

And don't join one that speaks a language you don't speak.

[main harness]

https://tenor.com/view/you-point-come-here-gif-16960700

@fluid pawn

[pine ember]

I'd assume 15:00

[worthy charm]

You mean its shorter than the next 6-7 hours?

-# :}

[nova pivot]

Ja I separated your messages

[worthy charm]

No you didnt

-# The mod abuse

[nova pivot]

Mod abuse

This is an attack against my freedom of speech

[light mortar]

What is PTE?

[nova pivot]

Public testing environment

[covert wind]

So we're testing when @lost pulsar @mild ibex @fluid pawn ???

[nova pivot]

Who is Luis?

[worthy charm]

Please dont unnecessarly ping staff, im sure Ben will post it soon in #telegrams

[main harness]

If you want an update ping staff, not only is it allowed in the rules its actually encouraged by our noble discord mods.

[nova pivot]

We shouldn't be pinning the employees, They're not going to put it on just because the pings

[main harness]

Then why do the rules explicitly say we should ping Team17 staff if we have questions?

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/armored-knight-guarding-armor-knight-nickelodeon-gif-18198137864534725835

[nova pivot]

I think that refers to the mods

@worthy charm

I have a question

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-thiago-mad-angry-fist-emoji-gif-17761307

[nova pivot]

Torken

[main harness]

@worthy charm can you confirm that pinging is allowed and encouraged?

@worthy charm pls respond.

[worthy charm]

It isnt

[worthy charm]

Its Törken btw

Dont make elise sad

[nova pivot]

It's the same

[main harness]

Okay very good I have amused myself for long enough that the PTE must be out by now

[nova pivot]

I was banned for less

Ban him willes

[main harness]

I am unbannable

[nova oracle]

Is it illegal to be conservative in Germany?

[worthy charm]

No politics please

[nova oracle]

Kickstart my heart except you’re invading Poland

[nova pivot]

Ban him

[worthy charm]

We all dont want to end up like others who couldnt stop being political.

[main harness]

I feel like we havn't seen any suggestions for SS uniforms in a while. Thoughts?

[nova oracle]

RIP to my alt accounts 😂

[main harness]

Maybe all the dev time is being spent on adding horses. #1428780793706057821

[worthy charm]

Paid DLCs thats what we need.

[pine ember]

Törken

[nova oracle]

Kedo, Alu etc

[pine ember]

AHHHHHHH

[nova oracle]

Leeds God of hell let loose

[main harness]

Bro if you don't think there is a paid cosmetic skin coming with the new map for the tanks either the IS or the Tiger... I dont know what to tell you

[nova oracle]

Is talking about silver political?

[worthy charm]

Skins for the SPAS incoming

[nova pivot]

Exactly I'm super excited

[nova oracle]

SPAS clans

[main harness]

U20 is the SPA skin

[nova pivot]

I want to give them my money

[main harness]

Comp tournaments have already written rules banning SPA ready to go

[worthy charm]

Not if you are on the Side of King Wenzel the one and only king of Bohemia.

[nova oracle]

You’re on this council but we do not grant you the rank of German high chancellor

You’re on this art school but we do not grant you the title of artist 🔥🔥🔥

What’s strange is that hitler actually left the art school alone

Did they ever find the ark of the covenant in 1941 Africa?

We all know that’s why the Germans were there, it weren’t the oil

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-lost-ark-indiana-jones-lego-when-you-find-the-gif-14761956

[pine ember]

Germans were in Africa because the Italians were too incompetent

[nova oracle]

No it was the ark of the covenant

[nova oracle]

It’s always good to see German reinforcements from Drew’s offensive

40’yr old men on unicycles

Imagine being killed by a 60 yr old with a panzerfaust

We need a Volkssturm faction on a Berlin map now

Bicycles, horses, old men German skins and whatever guns they can muster

[pine ember]

No

[nova oracle]

I doubt they’ll do Berlin

[analog helm]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-gif-10416146714942954656

[silk igloo]

I suppose SPAs will have free ammunition just like tanks do.

[nova pivot]

We would know if we had the pte

[hazy owl]

https://tenor.com/view/flex-tape-gif-10921536

devs right now

[cosmic pilot]

Unless it can dynamically destroy assets, I don't see the point.
Other than two man TD

[analog apex]

...we are moving from mid afternoon to a later afternoon already, still no PTE...
I smell trouble 🥶 .

Hopefully there won't be any big ones, the devs have had quite a share of unfortunate/bad stuff recently... time to break the streak.

[past vortex]

unfortunate?

[analog apex]

softly said yeah 😄

[past vortex]

ah that was british, i see

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/red-that70s-show-serious-sensing-gif-10288344924725311622

[analog apex]

I mean... the bad stuff they did is legit bad (killScreen, ADS FOV, tank problems...), but when it comes to D-Doss attacks, that was pretty much unexpected. Because despite as much as I know the quality so far, I wouldn't be surprised if some angry player(s) would attack the servers just to break the game as revenge.

[past vortex]

the ddos thing is a red herring, that wasnt a big part of the problems at all

[analog apex]

can't ever know for sure

[past vortex]

yea, so why do you say that :}

[analog apex]

give me a break, I am trying to be not as negative at least once in a while! 😄

and I am trying hard

[past vortex]

what i know is that their announcment said the server disconnects are also bugs and the ddos part was obviously not entirely correct

[glossy echo]

Pte?

It's getting late

[past vortex]

smolensk cancelled

[pine ember]

Wouldnt surprise me to be honest

[analog apex]

They wouldn't cancel Smolensk, but cancelling a PTE... that's a different thing.

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gun-gif-8510554628372069925

[nova pivot]

Fr

PTE in 6 minutes

Trust me bro

[pine ember]

If the PTE isnt around on 18:00 then it wont arrive this day

[nova pivot]

Indeed

[hazy owl]

source: trust me bro

[analog apex]

Then... 18:00 in EU is 17:00 in the UK 😃 .

[fallow tinsel]

no we will just get, " we take full responsibility" without anyone holding them accountable

[hazy owl]

spoiler: the real play test begins after they drop the update 😄

[analog apex]

would make them look even worse... if there are indeed problems happening right now that are causing the PTE to delay

[silk igloo]

With the new ammunition depot, I figure the meta would be to have the SPA in the backlines for indirect fire, and when necessary and possible, bring it up to blast the enemy strongpoint to shhh

Assuming that it can direct fire and has a larger blast radius than anything else, and at least in direct fire destroys spawns

[azure heath]

When PTE?

[worthy charm]

Thats only if they remove HQ arty

[main harness]

Its really bloody crazy to release a PTE then go home for the weekend lol

[worthy charm]

Im still sweating when K think if that...

[nova pivot]

Soon ™

[silk igloo]

3 Artillery, 3 commander artillery, 5 SPAs, katyusha strike

die

[nova pivot]

Sounds fun

[worthy charm]

I mean... people play more on the weekend. Would they do it during the week it wouldnt be better.

[past vortex]

why
its not like they would do anything promptly anyway

[worthy charm]

6 SPAs that is

[silk igloo]

where do you get the sixth from

[analog apex]

about that... the Soviets need to get CMD arty removed and only Katyusha kept. And they need normal bombing run as bombing run or something in that sense.

[main harness]

Just seems a bit risky to me. This is the soft launch of the new meta, and the first experience of it is a straight shot comp game... They should have released it a few days ago, then done urgent hotfixes(incase the game is unplayable etc.) before the weekend games which are the "main event"

[analog apex]

also, small mortars needed

[past vortex]

horse-drawn mortars

[silk igloo]

A couple IL-2s dropping ~60 bomblets each. I forgot what the name was, but it was very fun in il-2 sturmovik with infinite ammo to drop thousands of them as a kid

[nova pivot]

Horse-drawn horses

[past vortex]

saddle-mounted recoiless guns

[fallow tinsel]

I dont think they will add mortars after doing what they are with Arty. They would be insane

[analog apex]

they would be insane not to add them and implement them poorly

[worthy charm]

Sadle mounted ship arty

[silk igloo]

i think willes has some insider knowledge he aint sharing

[worthy charm]

As if the mods get told anything 😅

[silk igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-ventura-jim-carrey-raised-e-yebrow-gif-12235256

where do you get the sixth from?

did they change one tank into a default SPA?

[worthy charm]

Id assume the SPAs need to be operated by a tank crew.

The limit on tank squads is 6

[analog blade]

I wonder how that’s going to work out tho, must be boring for driver and spotter. Seems to me it will work decent solo

[worthy charm]

Either solo or duo for a spotter

[past veldt]

This is the purpose of the PTE though... If it releases at all today.

Like, sure, they could release it and hotfix some random stuff, but people should have signed up knowing those games are going to be a mess

Hit me up if you need a commander though 🫂

[silk igloo]

But the limit of commander spawned vehicles is 5. You'd only get six if they added a default SPA

[worthy charm]

Lol

I didnt knew that...

:}

[past veldt]

Lvl 1 commander moment

[analog blade]

Yeah they probably will increase that by one or two

[past veldt]

They didn't increase it when they added jeeps, half tracks, more heavies

[analog blade]

And limit spa to two at the same time

[past veldt]

Hell, I'm not sure it increased when they released trucks

[silk igloo]

They really should let the commander replace default vehicles with something else if it's a technical limitation.

[echo walrus]

What time will the PTE be online for us to test Smolensk today?

[past vortex]

we can be sure they will think of that, with all that game knowledge they got

[nova pivot]

Where pte

[prime shale]

the p stands for postponed

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/braindead-cat-brain-damage-gif-583403308765934478

[gloomy crown]

it just says this friday in the dev briefs no specific time. they mentioned a collab with some streamers, are these US based? maybe that's why

[cosmic pilot]

It's just, if they want SPGs to do indirect fire they're going to have to use unrealistically slow projectile velocity which rubs me the wrong way

[silk igloo]

i think indirect would be just like hq arty, the shell spawns from the sky at the target area

[rocky jacinth]

When is pte going live

[gloomy crown]

i am wondering how this impacts recon. are they only spotting the spgs, can you shoot the crew, does recon get a satchel or something against them etc.

[rocky jacinth]

Does anyone nknow yet

[cosmic pilot]

Recon should not be the counter to artillery through direct gunfire

[worthy charm]

[cosmic pilot]

In principle, recon being anything more than 400m behind the Frontline is too disruptive because it pulls combat away from the active cap zone.

[gloomy crown]

agree. thats why i hope they break the current meta for artillery-recon. but i expect the spg to be indirect fire behind the lines vehicles...

[nova pivot]

PTE In 17 minutes

Trust me

[cosmic pilot]

I'm being nitpicky here but SPG = direct fire
SPA = indirect fire
And if the 105 Sherman is anything to go off if it's an SPG vehicle

[gloomy crown]

Not like Ben could just give us a quick info or smt

[nova pivot]

Why would he do that?

Communication with the community is not important

[cosmic pilot]

Because he loves me, platonically

[gloomy crown]

hope you are right. 🙂

[gloomy crown]

Just a gut feeling. We should just manage ourselves as a community🛠️

[silk folio]

If I leave a game I don’t want to be put in the exact same game over and over now do I?

[sturdy quarry]

use the server browser?

[analog apex]

maybe the game thinks you just crashed 😃

[rapid vessel]

when does the update drop?

[icy plank]

That SDK on its way yet? 👉🏻👈🏻

[past vortex]

wdym think

[analog apex]

it was supposed to be EU afternoon, but we are entering the evening phase already now... so maybe it won't even be today, who knows...

[rocky jacinth]

Dont say stuff like that man im tweakin out

[gloomy crown]

what is it in the uk rn? like 4pm? would still be afternoon for them

[analog apex]

yep, for like 1 more hour tops

afterwards it's gonna be more of an evening even for them

[snow mural]

i believe in Ben. Ben pls start this... hell

[analog apex]

I believe in Ben too... but in this case it's up to the devs and not Ben.

[rapid vessel]

maybe in 1 min? and otherwhise in 1 hour and 1 min

i feel like 5 or 6 pm (EU) time is normal?

[rocky jacinth]

Let me go to smolensk i need my fix

[gloomy crown]

you mean he should let hell loose?

[exotic arrow]

Yeah most things release 18.00 ish

[analog apex]

not HLL PTEs

there's the tradition of 12:00 EU time

DevBriefings are released even that late, yes, but not PTEs

[snow mural]

YES!

[cyan saddle]

Probably's been a small delay 🤷

[nova pivot]

"small "

[cyan saddle]

"small" is relative

[analog apex]

we are so surprised 😄

[cyan saddle]

Where's Ben

[nova pivot]

Yes it is

[cyan saddle]

Ben knows all

[rocky jacinth]

Ye wheres ben!"

[cyan saddle]

I know nothing

[nova pivot]

Hidding from us

[snow mural]

FACTS

[analog apex]

he was probably tasked to prepare some yet another apology letter... 🥶
...or will be tasked to, very soon

[rocky jacinth]

Show youreself ben!

[gloomy crown]

Maybe they attacked the PTE servers this time?

[worthy charm]

Dont trust him, the mods are always lying

[thin lotus]

model swap the HQ arty with whatever appropriate arty tank.
"we've solved the recon-arty meta" 🤣

[nova pivot]

Where pte

[worthy charm]

Over there

[nova pivot]

Where is over there?

[rocky jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/gjirlfriend-gif-14457952604098199169

[cosmic pilot]

Under where?

[worthy charm]

Yea, you would like to know that wouldnt you.

[rocky jacinth]

id like to know too

[azure heath]

guys it's fine!

they just realized one of the files corrupts system 32

[snow mural]

Devs.... Ben.... pls.... when PTE

[analog helm]

re chat

tldr ?

pte postponed in 2027 ?

[azure heath]

just ping him

[gloomy crown]

Ben set himself to online, i guess we will be hearing something soon

[analog helm]

are we getting MOAR artilleries ?

[cyan saddle]

pls no

[azure heath]

MOAR Glaives only

[analog helm]

glad i went for yoga.

[nova pivot]

This not funny anymore

I just want the pte

[analog helm]

what do i do now tho

[cosmic pilot]

We have pte at home
Pte at home:

[azure heath]

i think it's hilarious

console players praying for PTE is beyond me

[nova pivot]

I want to see what they add

[azure heath]

ig spas are kewl

[nova pivot]

And specially In what new clothes I can spend my money

[fallow tinsel]

"We take all responsibilty" because we are transparent

[analog helm]

"amazon web services", "DDOS attack"... now the russians ?

must be vladimir

[azure heath]

it's because theres not enough eastern front

11:30 and it'll be out; watch

[mossy sable]

does anyone know when the Smolensk play test is happening? devs said its today but there are no servers open on the PT

[gloomy crown]

His soviet era pc couldn't handle the first release version of stalingrad. He is still salty about that.

[azure heath]

first u need to update the game

[snow mural]

we all waiting...

[azure heath]

but it's not out yet

[mossy sable]

lmao sick soon then i hope

[rocky jacinth]

BEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

[gloomy crown]

atleast my cat is happy about the additional playtime due to the delay whatever thingy

[azure heath]

Ben: "Sorry for the inconvenience! We're delaying until November 2026. Thank you for your patience!"

[rocky jacinth]

Cpt. Comedy

[azure heath]

I'm very serious

[jovial geode]

So no PTE

[azure heath]

Until next year

[snow mural]

Bro must be over 30 with his jokes

[jovial geode]

"experimental branch" sounds like a science experience

[nova pivot]

It is a social experiment

[gloomy crown]

there are people under thirty playing this game?

[rocky jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/muerto-gif-16250174877271582365

[nova pivot]

Hello

[covert wind]

Still waiting for the TEST BRANCH to update so we can test. Or has this days test gone the way of the Dodo??

[azure heath]

Bro isn't joking

[rapid vessel]

yes

[azure heath]

bro is ragebaiting

[cosmic pilot]

It's not even noon yet, chill

[rocky jacinth]

Its 17:28 EU

[azure heath]

EST

[gloomy crown]

I thought we were a bunch of middle aged men in bathrobes getting drunk and larping too much?

[azure heath]

They done at noon EST

[gloomy crown]

Getting kinda late now. streetlights are already on.

[split hamlet]

^ 30+ sitting right now in bathrobe and with a beer 🤣

[azure heath]

saying that like its a bad thing

[gentle lintel]

literally the dream

but I would replace beer with fruity drink

[split hamlet]

the hll community always felt like my kind of place

[covert wind]

Evidently T17 doesn't have an adequate test bed ready so nobody is going to say anything. No test today guys and gals. Go play BF6 and come back next month

[azure heath]

ARC Raiders actually!

[split hamlet]

Go seed the servers 🌱 🌱 🌱

[hazy owl]

BF4 forever

[gloomy crown]

my favourite is when everybody starts getting drunk and then they switch to the more regional dialects instead of standard german and suddenly you feel like your in deep bavaria or saxony xD

[rocky jacinth]

my favortie is when the ptes go online hehe

[past vortex]

what does that have to do with getting drunk

[split hamlet]

this is like the kids yelling "are we there yet???" 😂

[covert wind]

Star Citizen 4.4 is in PTU. Gotta go where there's something to test. Adios Minions

[gloomy crown]

in my experience on german servers people tend to try and speak standard german(high german) but the drunker they get they stop that and start using their home dialects. i guess because speaking dialect is somewhat stereotyped with lower class in germany(atleast some dialects) so people tend to speak standard german with strangers and alcohol relaxes that. that is probably way too much information you didn't want

[past vortex]

i torture them with my dialect right away

[cosmic pilot]

So when would Germans ever not be speaking their own dialects

[past vortex]

many do actively supress it because they do that at work all day

[worthy charm]

I can confirm that

[gloomy crown]

That's the way to go. Sadly my region almost lost their dialect.

[past vortex]

same for some austrians

[cosmic pilot]

I'm saying you all are drunk all the time 🗿

[azure heath]

as a swiss i concur

[past vortex]

willes doesnt even have a dialect, he spent it all on that bmw m3

[ashen basin]

Hahahaha hell yeh man.

Been backing sc since 2018

[azure heath]

(i'm not swiss btw)

Anyone else addicted to ARC?

Or just me

[gloomy crown]

For me it's been EU5 all week. Just paused for the PTE...

[oak current]

good stuff.

[azure heath]

Fair enough. I'm doing the same

[oak current]

Holland is great - till france decided to start attacking the coastline + my heir died and the heirs son + my current wife decided to fight over the crown

[dusk arrow]

anyone know when the pte update comes out? i want to download it for the mixer tonight.

[azure heath]

If it's not out in 12 minutes it's not coming out

[gloomy crown]

I started my first playthrough with my tiny home county in the HRE and it went bad quickly. xD Now running a Castille campaign thats going great so far.

[split hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/judge-judy-dance-gif-6996204403987091060

[azure heath]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-party-get-the-party-started-whoop-whoop-woot-woot-gif-13553754737456738195

[snow mural]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/848545905883086848/928272781353832488/75F1248E-A5EA-4C20-9E48-5D6F94449F59.gif

[stoic garnet]

“Why we are running a PTE for U19”

That aged well

Lol folks!

[hoary mortar]

Lol

[snow mural]

U19 will be released before PTE

[nova oracle]

My ban was greatly exaggerated

[silk igloo]

PTE is kill. forever.

[nova oracle]

Soon the hour is at hand

[fluid pawn]

We're just changing up how we do the public testing now

[nova oracle]

We need a Smolensk map

[covert elbow]

Y’know, switching from a once in a while PTE system to an ongoing Experimental server that server owners can use is a great idea devs

[worthy charm]

I think I just had a stroke.

[split hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/monday-splendid-hedley-lamarr-blazing-saddles-monday's-perfect-see-you-monday-gif-15637197719587610237

[past veldt]

In public?

[worthy charm]

Am I dreaming or do I need to call 112?

[fluid pawn]

Appreicate that Ninja

[nova oracle]

Factory reset HerrWilles to his war crimes setting

Every German has a button like buzz lightyear

[covert elbow]

Especially now that people don’t have to download the entire game a second time. This is really going to boost playtester numbers I feel and hey, maybe we can get some console servers now!

[boreal umbra]

hey guys when is PTE starting?

[covert elbow]

See? I’m positive every once in a while!

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gun-gif-8510554628372069925

[nova oracle]

Herr Manual

[fluid pawn]

#telegrams

[echo nova]

I really wish there was some way to help out on testing for epic games players

[fluid pawn]

Youlove to see it

[nova oracle]

Spanish Buzz was so based

[boreal umbra]

oh 🙁 Wish the dev team all the best to polish it

[nova oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/closing-my-wings-buzz-lightyear-toy-story-3-pushing-the-button-disney-gif-15168644826828558234

[thin lotus]

Static arty not being removed.
These dudes really just don't get it, huh

[worthy charm]

As a Dev youre paid to be like this :}

[nova pivot]

Ben there is no 211 dev brief

[covert elbow]

No I’m an unpaid intern

[nova pivot]

The last one is the 210

[nova oracle]

Start the OF page

[covert elbow]

My payment is I get to interview the devs everyonce in a while

[worthy charm]

Use the steam link then, for me the website didnt show anything either

[covert elbow]

cough

[silk igloo]

Do consoles have experimental or such builds? In any game?

[nova pivot]

Thanks ❤️

[nova oracle]

My favourite streamer is Mcpaper

[versed jay]

ARMA Reforger Experimental

[covert elbow]

Gamer I had a job, I’m not doing OF

[fluid pawn]

Website backend is teasing me. It'll be up soon
Steam and Reddit posts up however

[past veldt]

Ben, Static arty doesn't currently cost 1 munitions. It's 3 or 5 depending on HE or smoke

[nova oracle]

Should be Shells like any tank WTF

Artillery placement for the commander is so glitchy

[past veldt]

Also... SPA will do damage to garrisons and OPs?!

[worthy charm]

For you always ❤️

[past veldt]

Come on... Pls devs

[worthy charm]

xD

the real uwu moment

[nova oracle]

I was using it the other day and it was so inconsistent

[covert elbow]

If they do my mortar idea then hopefully it’ll work like this

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/blush-anime-shy-cute-girl-gif-14495627569314612221

[nova oracle]

Someone send out order 66 I mean factory reset our favourite friendly neighbourhood Germans

[covert elbow]

Seriously though Ben let this happen and my bag of chocolates in my desk is yours

[nova oracle]

I wanna see some fat headlines

“German tanks in Prague” by 2030

Denmark lost a 5 hour Match

[analog helm]

Today we have been going through the final build designed for the PTE, tested it thoroughly, and unfortunately, it’s not in the right place to share with you just yet as a PTE.

gg

[silk igloo]

Is it the same installation though? Then consoles could also get it

[hazy owl]

https://tenor.com/view/flex-tape-gif-10921536

[nova oracle]

Any Simpsons predictions for 2030?

[hazy owl]

I wasn't wrong in the end XD

[nova oracle]

I thought I was having a stroke, no it’s just 7PzD

Bunch of men in black wannabes

[versed jay]

You can download the regular ARMA Reforger and then you can download the ARMA Reforger Experimental Version

[nova oracle]

That’s effort

[silk igloo]

I guess it's only a steam thing then to have different version downloads?

[nova oracle]

If you want a true arma experience play Pixel 3D

[nova oracle]

Steam really is monopolising

Watch half life 3 release next year and absolutely kick gta to the curb

[versed jay]

Experimental is constantly updated with everything coming to the next update and runs for months, then they will start adding stuff for the next update once that one is released

[nova oracle]

I can’t play another updates every week game that’s what hell let loose and Fortnite are for 😂

[heady hornet]

Can we get the devs playing a Game as meatgrind getting simultanousely blasted by all the new stuff they put in? Maybe one of the two teams playing can each take 2-3 devs with them. Just so they know how fun it is to play infantry in these games, if you play against people, that know how to play the game.

[versed jay]

GTA has been pushed back to November of 2026 so it will be push to 2027 come next November 🤣

[nova oracle]

Just spawn camp the developers with hell let looses finest

[snow mural]

Who decided Monday?! We could’ve tested it all weekend, but instead I’ll be trapped at work....

[nova oracle]

Updates are always Tuesday what gives?

[rocky jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/gol-d-roger-meme-funny-one-piece-writing-gif-5206510315195397953

[nova oracle]

Is it shrove Tuesday soon? I want my pancakes

[fallow tinsel]

LOL! Yet ANOTHER broken T17 promise. Empty words

[errant moss]

Still having tons of connection issues
Rather postpone the pte if they can ever actually fix the last update

[silk igloo]

You're not supposed to run and die though

[past vortex]

they should just cancel that map, no one wants that anyway

[silk igloo]

the bottom part looks super fun because it'll essentially be the narrow map i've always wanted since flanking across the river wont work

[heady hornet]

true, you are just supposed to die.

[nova oracle]

This game is an abusive relationship

The real content of this game is its community

[heady hornet]

nah it's just devs, not fully understanding the actual power of the stuff they decide to add to the game. Most changes will most likely be even fine for public games. But as soon as you get a cohesive team going, it's doomed.

[hazy owl]

I don't understand why they announce things when they are nit ready. They messed up the last update. They need to get their credibility back. This is not a good sign. Luckily people forget and will preorder Vietnam either way XD

[nova oracle]

I imagine Vietnam will be a big hit with Australia

and Americans

[hazy owl]

🇺🇸

[nova oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/apocalypse-now-napalm-i-love-the-smell-of-napalm-morning-in-the-morning-gif-9767687204279749355

[fluid pawn]

Edited

[elder dune]

They are changing their testing methods because of last update issues. Is that not a good thing?

[analog apex]

So... no PTE today I see. Dev branch... hmmmm... why to bother with PTEs in the future to begin with if they can keep going with the dev branch?

[past vortex]

does that mean they are forcing you to play the game now, @fluid pawn ?

[nova oracle]

I feel bad for Ben because he only shares the news

[fluid pawn]

I apparently just play the community according to Sparrow 😂

[covert elbow]

That’s the plan no?

[analog apex]

I didn't notice any statement that would say there will be no more PTEs, but hopefuly it's like you say.

[nova oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/life-of-brian-gif-11561512

[worthy charm]

Ninja is never wrong

[fluid pawn]

Benefit of using the new branch is that we can implement new versions much easier to you and make it much more regular. That's not to say that the PTE app won't be used in the future, however using this version will give us much more flexibility and opportunity for more community involvement (something I've heard you all ask for and have been pushing for 🫡 ❤️ )

[analog apex]

One thing about the test branch - will switching between normal branch and the test branch require re-downloading some considerable portion of the game and waiting until it can be up? If so, I fear I won't want to be bothered with waiting x minutes to be able to switch to this or that branch.

So... how will it work?

[cosmic pilot]

Ugh, why bother keeping static artillery.
The loop you propose is too convoluted.

[nova oracle]

My first and last mistake was playing console hell let loose

[fluid pawn]

I mean it's the same for the PTE app. Even if you have the PTE app installed, you have to download the new content when it goes live.

This basically just means you don't have to download a whole new app (espeically to those folks who delete the PTE app when not using it for space reasons)

[finite berry]

By the way folks, the fact that T17 apparently is changing the way of how to do playtests might just be a hint that T17 won't drop support for HLL anytime soon 😉

[analog apex]

I mean it's the same for the PTE app. Even if you have the PTE app installed, you have to download the new content when it goes live.
yes, but in PTE only once. Not every time when I want to switch back to normal game, as the dev branch feels to. At least that's how the dev branches work in general on Steam.

[wheat wasp]

Off topic: Will there be new thematic uniforms and helmets in the Smolensk update?

[nova oracle]

There’s a reason console doesn’t get PTE, cause half the time console players haven’t got a clue

[nova oracle]

We need a second smolensk I map

[fluid pawn]

The reason is due to the console platforms themselves. Steam has super easy methods of testing, whereas other platforms really do not

[nova oracle]

We need the rest of the invasion of Poland

[fluid pawn]

Don't even think there is an option on PS for instance (don't quote me on that haha)

[wheat wasp]

Warsaw uprising would be sick af

[fluid pawn]

I beleive so

[nova oracle]

Didn’t the Germans flatten Warsaw?

[wheat wasp]

😚

[nova oracle]

The polish were hardcore

[nova pivot]

So the new "pte" stile is not going to be available in console right?

[wheat wasp]

Dirlegamer and the Prankster Brigade

[fluid pawn]

Unforauntely not. Still Steam only for now

[nova oracle]

Fighting off the soviets and the Germans at the same time

[nova pivot]

I think it has something to do with what Sony allows.

[wheat wasp]

I know what i want. I want Finland.

[sturdy quarry]

rename "artillery squad" to "heavy ordinance", that way it makes sense that they use static arty and SPG, rather than pretend SPG are SPA

[nova oracle]

Finland is Germany on skis

They got so much lend lease to fight the soviets

[hoary cobalt]

having a good team makes losing fun ngl

[wheat wasp]

My grandfather fought in the Winter War as a Swedish volunteer soldier, and after the war he went to the eastern front with the 5th ss division.

[nova oracle]

Imagine skiiing Down a mountain with a satchel

[nova oracle]

Based

[cosmic pilot]

If you're going to do static artillery, just make it a clone of the AT gun.

[analog apex]

Hmmmm, but as much I would hate wasting time and re-downloading (part of the) game each time I will switch branch back or forth, I guess having the branch updated by the devs the whole time, brings more pros than cons. And no surprise changes anymore.

[wheat wasp]

Yeah he was pretty hardcore

[nova oracle]

Did he have the full SS get up?

[wheat wasp]

I have a picture of him when he was in russia

[nova oracle]

Mëin Got!

Man was happy

[wheat wasp]

I can send you it

[nova oracle]

That’s the one thing about German photos, they always look happy to be there

[covert moon]

thats sick

[nova oracle]

Yes please

I bet he’s in a few of the famous photos

[glossy echo]

@fluid pawn where is the cathedral in Smolensk

[nova oracle]

He’s looking to pray

[analog apex]

open google maps and you will see 😜

[nova oracle]

When you call my name, it’s like a little prayer

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-deadpool-ryan-reynolds-shocked-x-men-gif-10084931610038548160

[nova oracle]

Are you assuming Ben is catholic?

[wheat wasp]

Sent you the pic

[nova pivot]

And where are the walls?

[nova oracle]

Are you assuming his religious orientation?

😂

[pine ember]

Guys... We havent even seen the map... Why care so much about walls and a cathedral? Maybe they arent even in the area the map is set in

[silk igloo]

I take it that static arty is only buildable in the HQ sector since they dont want it to hit the final point...?

Anywhere in the HQ sector?

[nova oracle]

I thinking he was hoping for Hogwarts

Half- the Time you can’t even enter half the religious buildings

[nova pivot]

Stfu

[pine ember]

Nope

[nova oracle]

I bet it was because of my little “I have a dream speech” in St Mere Eglise with the bandage in that 1 tournament

It included a flamethrower and no less than 6 cooked Germans

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/stfu-lil-bro-gif-881252686023637754

[nova oracle]

Woah

We don’t tolerate that language here

Put that pussy down

[nova pivot]

I want my walls

[nova oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-dance-trump-2024-trump-gif-12734161508561409577

[nova pivot]

My hand is staying on the pussy

[pine ember]

Why would people want walls that would completely ruin and unbalance a map that has great potential?

[nova oracle]

Just be an engineer

Build the cathedral up

[nova pivot]

🫵 😭

[edgy cedar]

the Brummbär was one of the last German tanks I expected to see

[nova oracle]

Wait we’re getting new tanks?

[nova pivot]

Spa they call them

[fallen ravine]

Please no dynamic weather on Smolensk

[nova oracle]

What will the polish have as armour?

Did they even have tanks)

[covert elbow]

Totally a SPA

[nova oracle]

Paper mashe

[worthy charm]

The KV2 is even more out of place tho.

[nova pivot]

The tanketes

[nova oracle]

I’ll have a Google right quick

[nova pivot]

And Vickers maybe

[covert elbow]

I though we had the KV1

I can’t remember which one was manufactured less

[pine ember]

IS1 we have (also out of place)

[covert elbow]

That’s right

[pine ember]

KV2, only 200 or so

[pine ember]

If they ever come to HLL

[covert elbow]

BM trying to not add barely manufactured tanks rather than widely used ones (impossible)

[winter rover]

wait, why is the kv-2 being added?

would make more sense to have the su122 no?

[pine ember]

Its T17 now

[pine ember]

Indeed it would

[wintry thistle]

The pop culture tank crew wins today

[remote plover]

Do NOT blame BM for this shi 😭

[covert elbow]

Gamer they added the IS1 and Luchs

And the 75mm Sherman

[winter rover]

luchs still such a dumb tank choice

[covert elbow]

And the British tanks

(I can’t remember which ones the issue)

They also added the FG42 and shotgun

The original British weapons

Driel

Various cosmetics

[winter rover]

scoped fg42 also dumb asf

[pine ember]

*IS1

[covert elbow]

They are to blame for a lot

[pine ember]

Why no scoped G43?

[winter rover]

yeah, replace it with the g43

[covert elbow]

PLEASE

[winter rover]

scoped fg42 was so random

[covert elbow]

They can’t even say “it’s unbalanced” because they have the same OHK

Oh wait no G43 is up to 200m isn’t it

Nvm

[winter rover]

now we're getting the kv-2 lol..

[covert elbow]

But it’s still a bad argument since it’s 10 rounds

And if they want to balance it just remove the mag reload from the G43 and replace it with the correct stripper clip reloads

It’s what should be in game right now anywyas

[pine ember]

KV2 would be fine for a 1941 map

[modest agate]

Love to see them taking updates seriously again

No more slop updates

[past veldt]

We will see

[analog apex]

But by God if I will still for forever keep seeing the new killScreen and zoom-in unrestricted ADS FOV slider in the dev branch, I swear I won't have much faith in the usefulness of it in regards to the feedback here.

[past veldt]

If those SPAs can fire at 1400m and destroy OPs and garrisons then gg.

[winter rover]

at least itll be less annoying to deal with than arty

[analog apex]

after the blamage with the CMD arty being able to do that at the start, I hope they learned the lesson

[azure heath]

I hope they add aim assist for PC players

[covert elbow]

Don’t know until we get them

We’ve done this song and dance a couple times now

[fervent meadow]

Really? I kinda see them missing their own PTE launch as indicative things are in a bit of a mess. This should have been in the pipeline before U18 and now, the day the PTE was supposed to go live - with all the comms and community engagement things they had arranged they are deferring it?

[covert elbow]

Don’t give them praise until they prove themselves

[past veldt]

The dev brief says they can damage tanks, OPs, and Garrisons so I don't think they have

[azure heath]

I haven't played since September.. no idea why I'm still here

It's just sad

[analog apex]

that would be like W T actual F

[past vortex]

its as sad as it always was rn

[past veldt]

Be like the old old days, right?

[analog apex]

right 😄

not that much old days though

[past veldt]

It was changed to the current method for a reason, but these devs don't know this

[covert elbow]

I haven’t played consistently since 2023

[azure heath]

I played in waves for like a month then step away from gaming

but this time I'm just not interested

ARC Raiders and BF6 stole me

[spice zodiac]

I do a lot of work today to read at the ende that this pte is canceld..... i have no problem with the new way but to wait the whole day was not worth it

[past veldt]

HLL players have all been to elevenerife with the way they talk about how long since they played or retired from the game

[covert elbow]

I ended up not getting BF6. The beta wasn’t my cup of tea and seeing the direction the game is going I’m definitely not picking it up unless it goes very cheap

[finite berry]

Didn't even play the beta lol

[covert elbow]

I did to check it out since I enjoy battlefield

[azure heath]

Crazy how they decided the PTE wasn't ready.. but U18 was? Like what?

[covert elbow]

Plus it was an open beta so why not

[finite berry]

I don't. Campaign is a s s and multiplayer is too fast for me

Like, I probably could get used to it, but honestly, I don't want to

[covert elbow]

They had to catch the various autumn sales. That’s the only reason

[azure heath]

Old geezer can't keep up. Fair enough

[finite berry]

I'm 27 🥲

[covert elbow]

But now they’ve seen the back lash so it’s been delayed. We’ll still definitely get some kind of update with the Christmas sales. Probably SPA’s and some gameplay updates but not solmensek

[covert elbow]

Same. BFV and BF1 are still my go to battlefields

[finite berry]

Still mad at Bf1 for making the campaign so one-sided grrr

[covert elbow]

BF6 was way to fast and the all class weapon systems ruined it for me

[finite berry]

Would've bought it otherwise

[azure heath]

More likely to get the map over new gameplay features

[covert elbow]

One of the best things in battlefield is seeing your opponents class and knowing how to fight them

But in BF6 that’s our the window

[analog apex]

And when the game breaks even more, they will get rid of the normal branch and leave just the dev branch online as an excuse for it being unfinished 😄

[thin lotus]

wildly exaggerated by bad players tbh

[covert elbow]

Instead of seeing a recon player and knowing I can take them in a fight CQC because they have a rifle I get shredded because they actually have a SMG

[azure heath]

The maps are microscopic

[covert elbow]

Also that

A healthy mix is good. Some small, medium, and large maps make a battlefield game

[past vortex]

i never liked the endless resources in bf

[covert elbow]

If you only get small maps then it genuinely starts to become a cod clone

[azure heath]

I like the tacticalness of games

that's why ARC Raiders has me hooked, it's very approachable, fun, and takes some brain power

[past vortex]

its 3rd person tho

[azure heath]

Yeah..

It's still fun

[past vortex]

...

[azure heath]

I was a Generation Zero and Hunt Showdown fiend

so it's a happy medium

Also gives Sniper Elite and Darktide vibes

[silk igloo]

It's still tactical even if lives or vehicles are endless. In HLL too. Better to stay alive longer, rather than half the team being dead at any given point. Ground has to be covered, and you need a minimum amount of troops to be alive to do that, otherwise the enemy will walk in from some gap. It's true regardless of the FPS game, because our vision is a cone.

[nova pivot]

Bf1❤️

[azure heath]

I wish my teammates knew that

they just run and gun

[thin lotus]

as opposed to

[covert elbow]

God I wish people know this

Instead they just spawn at the nearest attack garrison and overwhelm the enemy defenses because the enemy is doing the exact same thing

It basically comes down to who leaves the fastest

[fallow tinsel]

I was wondering if the arty squad is going to be mortars

[thin lotus]

anyone being anywhere at anytime gameplay. It sucks. Combined with very volatile gameplay logic and you've got a game where you're racing around the map as opposed to fighting eachother

[covert elbow]

Hopefully but idk at this point in time

Like FreshBakedGoods artillery might be an essential function of the maps and removing it breaks the entire game

Hence why it’s in Vietnam and not HLL

[nova pivot]

Average hell let loose developing experience

[silk igloo]

it never actually works though. it's a gamble every time, and people start to associate playing like that with victory, but when it doesnt work they blame something else

that is, the gamble works only because the other side is also gambling

[thin lotus]

right, and it sucks. It's just unstructured randomness

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/infinite-bkp-bkp-ball-knowledge-ball-knowledge-points-you-know-ball-gif-8028968933762329310

[silk igloo]

it's easy to counter though. like all the random airheads thrown around without any support. that's the enemy commander 👆

[thin lotus]

like there's this muddied sense of "did we actually do something good, or is the enemy team just doing the same thing we did in another area of the map?"

we just beat them in this stupid race gameplay

it's so unsatisfying

[silk igloo]

Yeah, and what's the point if it does work? Great, you spent 17 minutes of your life clicking buttons and not seeing a single enemy

[thin lotus]

anyone celebrating a sub 20 minute match of HLL because "we beat them so quick XD" fails to understand just how stupid being able to do that is.

[silk igloo]

If it was a straight fight, then it'd be neat. But airheads and red garris just ruin it.

[thin lotus]

Congrats, no one killed even a few enemies and the game's over already. You really won this, pal!

[silk igloo]

the point is to KILL and MURDER the enemy with OVERWHELMING FORCE and ANGER

🤪

[thin lotus]

No fighting, nothing of note happened. Just a couple quick how-to-win moves and the game's over, and you have oblivious people on the winning side celebrating how superior they are

[nova oracle]

I blame black matter for the messy state of the game

T17 looked around the house, bought the house and moved in

Not their fault that BM left a mess

[broken shoal]

This last telegram sounds like they really wanna kill the game for Vietnam sales

[nova oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/slave-ryan-gaming-bioshock-video-gif-18579494

[pine ember]

Indeed

[thin lotus]

The ever dwindling playercount certainly isnt going to increase after Vietnam comes out

[nova oracle]

“Was a man sent to kill, or a slave”

would you kindly, powerful phrase… familiar phrase

Would you kindly sit, would you kindly!, run would you kindly!

you think you have memories, a farm, a family, a barn

[broken shoal]

They really think Vietnam is going to sale when they are pushing their main demographic away 😭

[nova oracle]

was there a plane crash or was it brought down!?

[worthy charm]

Omg, the game is gonna die!

This topic is funny and sad at the same time.

I saw that.

👀

Also I would never

[nova oracle]

would you kindly

Still the best game I’ve ever played

I honestly think that’s how meeting Walt Disney would go down

[worthy charm]

Best game is relativ... but its the best hardcore/teamshooter/WW2 game I played.

[nova oracle]

Everyone knows the best shooter ever is Halo 2

[worthy charm]

Sure Grandpa, lets go back inside

Im sure thats true :}

[covert elbow]

That’s just the truth

BM killed the game long before people realized

[nova oracle]

They had that roadmap, bailed when the game peaked and then left the mess to be cleaned up by T17

T17 were given all the bits to the Lego set minus one

[worthy charm]

Thats a bit hard... but they definitely overpromised.

[edgy gulch]

Wow u fixed the player testing still no testing for consoles don’t just gonna break it there when it comes out again,

[nova oracle]

I wish he’ll let loose had enlisteds maps

[worthy charm]

The KS and the stuff after thats was hard...

[nova oracle]

Out of post scriptum, hell and enlisted,enlisted has the best maps

Enlisted even has castle itter!

[covert elbow]

Not even overpromising. The amount of “we can’t add/ change X because of the code” and T17 admitting they can’t add everything they want because of the shoddy code goes to show that BM didn’t know how to properly code and didn’t bother cleaning anything up

It’s why I’ve written off “Hunger” entirely for the time being

I’m not going to support them if their going to just do the same again

[nova oracle]

I mean compared to Bethesda, BM are saints

[thin lotus]

BM gave as much as the vocal players wanted. You either do not know or have forgotten how much pushback BM got in the earlier dev days when it was time to get game foundations set

[nova oracle]

Bethesda should face charges of fraud honestly

[lofty urchin]

Don't talk about my beloved Todd like that

[nova oracle]

They clearly can make good games, push out subpar slop

Looking at you starfield

Starfield, is the most overhyped game I’ve played in recent years

[lofty urchin]

Starfield was not a good launch, they've been rolling out good mods for itnthough.

Theres a whole star wars conversion, might grab starfield just for that

Otherwise most of their recent releases have been bollocks

[analog apex]

I was vocal... didn't get a thing implemented from them. 😏 I guess there was too few of me 😄 .

[dusty bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/883616534323396608/1433470253882409064/attachment.gif

[blazing nacelle]

was that part of the first armor overhaul when every tank had zero mass, so as soon as they got hit they'd just go flying into space?

[worthy charm]

Never listen to sam! Thats in the dev 1o1

or however you call it

[thin lotus]

Communication directly from the BM CEO to play a different game.
What an honor

[past vortex]

101

[thin lotus]

The moving away from red garry centric gameplay, and a first iteration of making infantry combat better and medics viable, both of which BM received major backlash from the shortsighted vocals in this community.
HLL deserves everything it got after that sort of reaction, and to this day.

[nova oracle]

It would help if clans would chill out too

Heavy handed bastards

“We need you to ID yourself across platforms so we can carpet ban you” sure I’ll just give you my blood type aswell whilst I’m at it

[frail heart]

Whoever needs that much info to ban someone they are not doing it right..

[nova oracle]

They ban you at the console level, I don’t know how they do it, they need your GT, I’m assuming it’s IP logged?

[frail heart]

SteamdID or windows ID which admins can get from RCON anyway.

[nova oracle]

RCON is bunker isnt it?

[fleet jacinth]

Didn't someone of note also tell you to go play something else? Or am I wrong 🤔

[frail heart]

RCON is a tool, Bunker is a place for Server Owners

[nova oracle]

I blame TACO for my banning

[analog apex]

yes, the BM CEO as Chum said - it was Max, the leader of BM

[fleet jacinth]

Oh I missed that, sorry!

[nova oracle]

If it weren’t for these larger clans and they’re shared Admins

It’s like a harem

[analog apex]

when I asked just for what we were promised in terms of HLL's direction, I was shown the door 😄

[frail heart]

Bunker bans are only done with enough evidence and each community bans or dosnt ban.

Ive only ever seen a couple reports that have been added then deleted due to not enough evidence most bunker bans are only for the severe players

[nova oracle]

When did trolling become so vitriolised?

[frail heart]

Depends what ya did and in whos server.

People pay for their servers they run them how they want

[nova oracle]

One man’s troll is another man’s freedom of speech advocate

[frail heart]

If you were Bunker Banned and still are banned it probably had enough evidence

[nova oracle]

Slander, lies, blasphemy.

Godless behaviour

From them not me

[analog apex]

what about concrete/video evidence

[nova oracle]

Nothing I’ve seen

Word of mouth

[runic gorge]

did da pte come out

[nova oracle]

F^cking word of mouth

[nova oracle]

Only because I’m an honest troll

Also people look up to someone to hate

They won’t admit, I’ve spanked them in pubs

[frail heart]

If you feel you were banned unfairly you can contact the community who banned you and they can look at lifting it if they want too.

[nova oracle]

I’m banned from the ticket servers 😂😂😂

[frail heart]

Ticket Servers?

[analog apex]

never heard of them

[frail heart]

New clan?

[nova oracle]

Apparently there’s a clan called circle

What next square? Triangle

[frail heart]

Circle yes

[nova oracle]

What are we going for the triage of evil?

[nova pivot]

the cult of the floppa

[nova oracle]

The lack of a pirate clan is…. Disturbing

[nova oracle]

Points for originality

Raise a glass of rum

[analog apex]

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-pirates-of-the-caribbean-johnny-depp-captain-jack-sparrow-gif-17353649

[nova pivot]

sam

[nova oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-birthday-welcome-to-the-caribbean-gif-5772004

[nova pivot]

what do you think about thr arty thing?

[analog apex]

sparta

[nova pivot]

sam answer this

@analog apex

[analog apex]

aaaaah, I was about to log off and go to bed 😫
too big topic

but in short, I want mortars more than SPAs and when both, they have to be implemeted correctly and in case of SPAs in terms of team limitations

they shouldn't be able to kill spawnpoints

[worthy charm]

At this time of the day?

Dont tell me you got a life

[analog apex]

what do you mean, it's 21:19 already for me, usually I am in bed at such time for 34m at least

[worthy charm]

I could make so many jokes about this... but you should answer sparta first, my jokes arent funny anyway.

[glossy echo]

Normal time

[analog apex]

yep normal, while I wasn't a working person yet

anyway, the arty question needs to be more specific so I can know what I need to mention or aim for in the topic

for now, I rly gtg, see ya tomorrow guys

[nova pivot]

That is not sleeping time

[worthy charm]

Sparta you can ping me when he is back

I need to see this

Would be a shame to miss.

[nova meteor]

There’s no reason 2 rockets in the back didn’t kill a tank

[obtuse dragon]

me when the tank tanks my shots:

https://tenor.com/view/freddy-fazbear-bear5-fnaf-five-nights-at-freddy's-me-when-i-get-you-gif-3436903932038453635

but yeah it's a bit too much

[worthy charm]

Yes and no

Only way to balance this would be making a S44/WT Damage model.

[obtuse dragon]

a 100%

[worthy charm]

Thats neither worth the dev time nor what the (most) Community wants tho

[obtuse dragon]

Or a RO2 damage system, atleast for AT rifles

[past vortex]

wut

[obtuse dragon]

on that game it can take you 3 business days to damage a tank slightly or 2 seconds to blow it up

[worthy charm]

You know how many times I had to read "Nobody asked for this" in regard to the tank rework since the U18 PTE

To many times

[past vortex]

i mean most players aint even aware how futile it is to use the rockets against tanks....

[worthy charm]

#mess-hall message

[past vortex]

good thing most tankers are blind and deaf :}

[obtuse dragon]

that's why ATR's are the best 🔥

[past vortex]

wut

[worthy charm]

Im gonna go deaf if I make the sounds loud enough to heard satchels.

[obtuse dragon]

2 rockets<<<<<<<40 14.5×114mm shots

[past vortex]

that homely sizzeling

it gives you warm feelings

[worthy charm]

Im already deaf btw

[past vortex]

:D

[worthy charm]

I dont play comp so it doesnt matter that much...

If I can do what I want I will never get satcheled anyway.

[obtuse dragon]

isn't there a german tank that is loud asf

and you literally have to scream to your mic if you want your teammates to hear you

[worthy charm]

Every german tank you say?

[nova meteor]

Most times in WWII 1 is all it took

[obtuse dragon]

i think it was the panther, but yeah all of them are loud asf

[past vortex]

i would prefer realistic rockets
so mostly one hit but far less range

[worthy charm]

Of course you would 😠

Take this man away

[nova meteor]

I swear this game needs to be pushed more before it really does die out

[worthy charm]

Im gonna call Kane again

[nova meteor]

Wish there were more close games in the middle instead of everything just one sided spawn camp by the 30 minute mark

[obtuse dragon]

i would prefer if they buffed way more the ATR damage against a tank's turret

[past vortex]

alternatively we could get throwable satchels

or suicide horses (with literal satchels)

[obtuse dragon]

turning the game into red orchestra 🥀

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-gonna-throw-up-charlie-smiling-friends-i'm-feeling-really-queasy-i'm-gonna-puke-gif-16491926653342815670

[past vortex]

magnetic mines would be great too

[obtuse dragon]

dude i love stalingrad so much

played like 3 full games on other maps, completely fine

Got to stalingrad

Game froze for 2 mins and crashed

https://tenor.com/view/mgrr-jetstream-sam-now-that-you-mention-it-omori-is-awfully-similar-to-the-battle-of-stalingrad-gif-26283739

[covert elbow]

God that was annoying lmao

The tank rework has been asked for years to lmao

Litteraly everything has been asked for years Kek

[worthy charm]

Even SPGs I guess :}

I looking forward to testing them.

[covert elbow]

It was even funnier how people acted like this was a spur of the moment thing since when it was announced in the roadmap no one barely said “oh hey this is a bad idea why are we doing this”

People are weird

[worthy charm]

To our luck they at least test it first this time

[covert elbow]

I am purely to see what the hell is happening with them

[worthy charm]

You read the Dev Brief?

[analog helm]

turns out t17 postponed PTE because alt season started

[covert elbow]

Cause the tanks they’ve shown aren’t SPA’s

[covert elbow]

I saw they were getting postponed

Was there something I missed?

[worthy charm]

You saw the part about Static Artillery Guns and Self-Propelled Artillery

[covert elbow]

Did I?

Can you link me it or tell me where it was in the brief?

[worthy charm]

They definitly put some thought into it but im not sure if it will work