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An odd bandaid fix to an odd problem t17 might have put upon themselves by adding stuff that really doesnt make sense for what they want
"Players will need to look up as often as they look ahead, with enemies able to take positions in ways never before seen in Hell Let Loose."
uhhh....huh......
remember in school days where you didn't know what to write so you just pad the paper with a bunch of non-statements that don't say anything
taking positions on elevated windows and positions is apparently a new thing in this game
I think that wasnt used in combat
Maybe it'll be a building bigger than 3 stories?
I guess most of the buildings will be open, not like in carentan ( the most overrated map in the game) where you have only acces to some key buildings
I don't care
The only time sub levels are cool are in the Alien universe
Super Mario!
Nah that color shift always pissed me off
I'd guess the opposite given that this new map is supposedly a bigger urban setting
If you make the urban setting too porous you create more issues other than just performance
That's what the PTE on Friday is for.
We'll see what it's like and complain as much as necessary.
Carentan is one of the most fun maps, but yes, its still overrated
Urban combat in general is overrated
Atleast imo
Nah, carentan is sht, get an mg and look donw that street
im the opposite, i think this game needs more urban maps like carentan
Why?
There is no real house to house fighting except for a couple of hardcaps
Yep, its popular because BofB
a map like aachen wouild be fun
They never corrected the left leaning advantage, so having an abundance of overlooks like windows is going to condone ratty gameplay
We get a new urban map soon
i know, im looking forward to it
Forest combat in this game is underrated
Me too
Yes it looks nice
Are you a @pine ember subaccount?
it does, lets wait to see if it breaks the game like every other update
No, I just like it too
Who pinged me?
I did
Who is that @haughty geode guy?
He is you
me lol
What?
He is literally you
Hmmm
I am not him
German, likes forest, German...
wtf is happening rn
How long have you played HLL
We Germans like our forests
What is your favourite ww2 front?
5 years
Africa
Aaaa
@pine ember Thats a lot of hours
Nah you are not @pine ember
you dont hear that often
We all know what is mine
Alaska
Just over a 1000, and you?
Ja rookie
Sadly not, but it shows perfectly the strenghts and weaknesses of the Wehrmacht
180 hours only, lvl 65 or 66
Heresy
Thats solid though
why not 6 7
Yea
Whats that meme
A new meme from TikTok
Explains why I dont know it
I don't use tiktok and I know it
Ooops
I think you live under a rock with two phones one speaking as @pine ember and other speaking as @haughty geode
Because you twonare the same person
What
You are like the German version of kedo
Oh god no
Seee
He is not me, ok?
That was to @pine ember and @haughty geode answered
I don't believe you, send proof
I want you two to get a photo together
I know him too
Train?
nah
DB is like our tanks: not that reliable
this map looks cool as hell ngl
Sorry sir, Im at lvl 67 in around 6 or 7 hours
Yes it does
we might finally get a full urban experience
Get a photo together zepanzershocolade
Stalingrad is sitting in the corner and is crying now
I wont post my face here
I love Stalingrad
Stalingrad is literally goated
Same
Dms
Stalingrad doesnt feel too urban tbh
Also not there
Thats how a lot of urban combat actually looked, especially in Stalingrad
Datenschutz
I dont have that
Use English please
Data protection
yeah ik, but stalingrad is kinda different, I mean it was bombed into oblivion
I want the new map to have mre compact houses
more enter-able
Because the section we have represented in the game is the industrial district
Yep, Stalingrad had many "open" areas, it was more of a wasteland than a town. And the urban combat which it is famous for happened inside key buildings like the grain elevator
The historic city centre would be more closed
This applies to all cities
Sevastopol?
will the new map be at night?
A snow one
Yes
When Kasserine?
which country
Smolensk is somewhere in Russia
I think near the Baltics or Belarus
Its north to Ukraine
A new Ukraine map would be goated
Happy 9 o’clock
I think I saw that guy before
how many days after the PTE will it go global?
Erich Hartmann?
10
Yep
9
@pine ember 10 or 9?
22
21:02
man.... a jungle map would be cool af
22:02
I would like Burma
Guadalcanal
How about we make a map that is perfectly even on both sides with the only cover being paintball triangles and all roads being straight for tanks and trucks
Cant forget to make it on a golf course
Thats the true hell let loose slop gameplay this genz community needs
that would be hell
imagine crossing huge open fields
22:03
Nah you got the paintball things
Thanks
we need a map that is 100% flat with nothing on it, like the minecraft flat world
Also lets add in dust storms and snow storms
Just to make the experience that much more amazing
That is how el Alamein should be
GOd......... I hate the open fields in that map, so annoying
Map is sht
Kursk, but the difference is that Kursk is fun
I love Kursk
I love trenches
I might be on the minority here but I really hate the beach maps
I love ww1
Me when smoke gernades exist
Same
And that is the most similar thing
Utah is sht
idk why so many people love it
Omaha is ok
Omahas village is somewhat good
Yes
the second point on one of them is so shite idk which one tho
There is not really a lot of huge open spaces, except for some sections in the hq and the sides
Utah is directly fields everywhere
the name of the point has a 7 in it
its the wors point ever
WN7
When are we getting a Mojave desert map for hell let loose, with the gameplay being the US army training against simulated opp forces
Better yet make it Needles California where the old army base was at and its 130°and flat
make this guy CEO
Against aliens
Where is my realistic hell let loose heatstroke causalities
Run for over a minute and you pass out
all the snow maps are bangers ngl, I havent played a single bad game in them
this guy is cooking
and you get frostbite in the snow
What about dying of starvation in Stalingrad
Every time you walk 50meters you roll a random chance dice to just drop dead, let's make it 10%
they should have a class in stalingrad where you fight with a shovel
Same thing for tanks, 10% chance to break down every 50 meters driven, 15% for panther transmission
T34 randomly cracks its hull after 5 minutes of gameplay due to poor welds
and they should make it so that you cant retreat
if you do, a bot spawns and shoots you
Realistic ammo shortages, sometimes you spawn in with only 4 rounds
X2 rate for soviets
X2 rate for germans past april 1945
I think ive got some great ideas t17
Hire me on as a community manager, im sure my degree in alcohol manufacturing will prove very useful in the workplace, im already displaying its value
I like utah
Get out of here then
No
It's a life-changing information about you
I can't see you the same way I did before
Bro why does hell let loose crash so much recently
😭
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Peak Hell let loose experience
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A 29.1 TB/s DDoS attack?? Aren't the largest confirmed DDoS attacks only a fraction of that? Guess he meant GB/s or 29.1TB in total traffic idek
Also the botnet is called Aisuru, not Asuri for anyone wondering
Does anyone know what SPAs the USSR will add?
nothing official yet, friday you'll find out 👀
What’s SPA 
yes seems the wrong unit
otherwise it would be among the biggest ever
thats unlikely :}
server crashed three times in one game 😭 🙏
Self Propelled Artillery
we were going crazy asw
Don’t worry, once they get back from vacation they’ll fix it
oh lol cloudflare really reported such an attack, ofc that wasnt primarily on qonzer :}
So, very quickly googled this, and apparently it's an IoT botnet that truly can do 20Tb/s+. There's a report on it from NETSCOUT from... about two weeks ago. Primarily targetting online gaming.
the attack was also very short
so that probably doesnt have anything to do with the server disconnects
"Was" doesn't seem like the right term here. "The Aisuru DDoS botnet operates as a DDoS-for-hire service with restricted clientele... Most observed Aisuru attacks to date appear to be related to online gaming."
yea possible someone rented that to attack qonzer, but nowhere near the 20Tb/s
the 20Tb/s was for 45 seconds once
I dunno. I don't work Cyber Security. Just reading the report and taking it at face value
and that was on many targets
read again, it says 45 second attack on many gameing providers
cloudflare says it mitigated it
I'm just also reading that it's for hire, which suggests that if there's a business model attached, one mitigation likely isn't the end of it either. Dunno, again, I don't work cyber security, just my own read of it - which I'm only doing after 3 server drops in an hour 🙁
ofc its for hire but renting the whole capacity is certainly not cheap :}
I'm keenly aware that what is expensive to me is not such a bar to others 🫠
i doubt anyone would waste considerable amounts just on hll
I once heard a description of a rich person looking at money the same way we look at water. And that, in turn, gives me some insight that there are people rich enough to be just that fickle.
possible but keep in mind that those 20 Tb/s was def not directed at hll
so if someone does it then smaller
Yeah the attack obv wasn't directed at HLL but rather Qonzer's(?) broader network range. Collateral damage basically. I guess this happened at the same time as the update and the dc's over the last few weeks are from residual instability or intermittent waves of attack? Idk we'll see what Qonzer's statement is tomorrow
more like many big gaming providers, and ultimately cloudflare
but it was 45 seconds, so it has nothing to do with hll server disconnects
those who
You are destroying the game. Fix the f'ing servers or roll it back!!!
First time in a week. I wait in que to join a server and get the dreaded, MATHC IS OVER and get kicked out of the que and have to wait ANOTHER 15 MINUTES!!!!!!!!!!!!! FIX THIS CRAP instead of introducing crap people dont care about.
This was their excuse for the server dcs in the statement. Whether it actually has anything to do with them is a different question
Wow!
It's not their excuse.
They're still taking crash reports from the server owners.
It's actually the first time I've seen a T17 Dev actually interact with the community and make clear exactly what they need and how the server owners can support
The past 24 hours is the first time server crash rate dropped below 0.25% of matches, close to what it was before U18. Seems like server providers have been improving things over the weekend because it was still at 1.5% after the last hotfix (did Qonzer still have servers on experimental branch before?)
It was the CIA
“Every war starts with a false flag operation”
The golf of Tonkin never really happened
It does make you wonder about all the stuff we know about and all the stuff we don’t know
Yes. Some people had to ask to be moved across manually
The attack last week wasn't just on HLL but on the some of the server providers and their protection networks. From their understanding, this was aimed at the gaming community and they have seen impact across other titles as well. That being said, there has been an increase in attacks recently on HLL and the GSPs are working with cybersecurity companies to create improved mechanisms to block these attacks and protect the networks. I know that Qonzer are releasing a statement later today, and we'll be going out with something from other GSPs on the situation. Hope this helps clarify the situation 🙂
As we detailed in the info for Hotfix 1 and 2, unfortuantely since U18 there has been a number of issues that have hit HLL. Although DDoSing issues on the server providers is one of them, there have also been issues in the game such as the PhysX issue that was causing major client and server crashing that we resolved in Hotfix 2. We'll be going out with Hotfix 3 soon that will be targeting some more of the issues identified by the community, and we are working to ensure that all other issues that we can resolve from our end will be implemented with the release of Update 19.
The PTE this weekend is aimed to get as much feedback from the community on the new map and SPAs so that issues that we saw in Update 18 won't be repeated. We hope that as many of you can jump into the playtest as possible as we can't wait to hear your feedback on the new map.
Basically how I've felt typing up every community beat recently ahahah
I just wish I had unlimited power 🌩️
“Hell Let Loose will be reorganised into the FIRST Galactic Gaming Empire for a safe and securer gaming community”
Just use your AI Powers to fix the game.
Its as easy as that
Has anyone claimed responsibility?
I know Microsoft were really compromised
If they can hack all this why can’t they be useful and release the UFO files
No one to my knowledge unfortunately. I know that Google were hit with a massive attack in the summer, AWS were then hit a few weeks ago (when we were meant to release Hotfix #1 causing the delay)
Was that DDOS?
I believe so
Wait till Christmas, they’ll take us all off just wait
I've only skimmed over the post mortem but I didn't see anyone drop a DDOS bomb
(Although I'm just a lowly CM with no tech sklills. Don't quote me ahah)
It's something that's unfortunately becoming more prevalent on the internet, and the only way to combat it is for cyber-security companies to put in the time and resources needed to protect against it.
My idea would be some sort of global republic for security. Maybe a sort of galactic senate of protection. For our own benefit
It’s funny cause Ian Mcdiarmid is such a nice guy IRL
I've put you in my PHD thesis on DDOSing
At this point you’ve got my vote
Better than let’s slap Fortnite crew on gamespass and up the price Microsoft
The moment you step away from crowd, you become more, you become Herr Willes
@worthy charm mentioned 
what I don't understand is how a DDOS of a few seconds takes down Qonzer's network for days
Hiswilly is definitely my favourite HLL mod
That's a question for Qonzer I'm afraid if that is the case
Ben, when are you hopping on to play commander for a midweek event?
No one wants me as a commander lad ahah
I'll join a squad though and have people tell me what to do lol
Also what time?
Okay that's good
Which timezone (this is important ahah)
So Tuesdays are a no as I have hockey training, however could potentially join a round next Thursday (13th)
Noted, @fluid pawn next week thursday for the ghn event for WTH.
)))
Horses announced today confirmed
what spg is germany getting
no idea. hope it's a stug 105
Brumbar
What are you doing to my beautiful language .
beautiful? ah, german humour
I said it exactly like Bavarian farmer...
This is the announcement of Hell Let Loose Star Wars ?
If i type Sturmpanzer IV (fier) "Brümmbär" that's gonna be odd
But you didnt say anything...
You only wrote it, the wrong way.
Yes, but if you could hear me, that's exactly would be that way
(((
And it'd still be wrong
Alright enough fun 🚓 👮 please sit in the backseat sir
I wish ngl
More likely to get horse than star wars
-# THIS IS NOT CONFIRMATION THAT HORSES WILL EVER BE ADDED
Star Horse
Will there be cosmetics coming to update 19?
Horse armour DLC is coming in U19
🐎 confirmed !
so qonzer said it did affect hll for days ?
:}
Horse Wars?
Medieval HLL when?
Wir benötigen mehr Holz, Mylord!
soe
Invasion of Poland confirmed? 
Battle of Krasnobród - 1939, when both German and Polish cavalry clashed using sabres
Yes we are planning it currently
Ohh you mean in game nvm
Ok, back into #off-topic-mess-hall you go
Fine...
Why did you let him out?
I needed support
as a AA main in BF6, thats what he is supposed to be.
My business is insulting Germans and business going well
How do I exterior customize tanks on console?
Ah, a fellow hello kitty enthusiast
get out the tool thingy that looks like a wrench but isnt a wrench, and "use" it against the tank kinda as tho you were welding / blowtorch i think
is this only in a match?
yeah you apply in game rather than in the barracks / saving it as a preset
think the theory being you discuss as a tank squad what you wanna look like
i assume the customisation with blowtorch aint that good then
well its just one skin for US and one skin for germany for now, there didnt implement the "tinkerer" class with its arcadey "hax the turret speed boost" etc thankfully
you have to have bought the tank skin dlc as well if that wasnt clear
ye ik
hi guysi love the sup role but it is very difficult to upgrade its level, how can I upgrade it more easyll?
icant found engineer i cant do my job
everyn usin machine gunner or sniper
I´m for the Battle of "Posthof" in Lower Saxony not very well balanced but might be Fun
I already requested it in the "empty stomach" game
A Battle for Warsaw would probably work best in HLL
is offense 700 points alot if match ended 1-0?
Offensive score just shows how much time you were in offensive area of map (aka in enemy territory)
Bob the builder server, maybe... 👉👈
Or just playing with ammo crates and placing it very often on points...
Grenade create is a cool thing especially... And very useful for AT guys
Build nodes early on in the match as engi, then switch to support.
build nodes at very start to passive farm xp
(recommended at very start so supply truck doesnt get nicked)
its the role that is easiest to level
bad advise, kedo
Alright, Asmon, but that's definitely fastest way to earn EXP
imagine the warsaw uprising in HLL
Another kedo alt?
there's a little kedo in all of us
horses when
I better not be
yes
Anonther server crash for this wonderful game
I just imagine how polished must be the code
its the ddos attacks , they are using 100Tb/s :}
First it was the Amazon web services now this they be blaming everything but themselves
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thats nothing
for Vietnam servers i bet
Does anymore know what the Next Major update is about besides the new map?
New vehicles
Check out the PTE information for a good chunk of insight. 😉
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I have a question sir
Is reporting these kinds of things your job here?
I know that
I mean If it is like your only purpose
Since I help fix many folks out here with OS and game issues. I want to keep folks up to date.
Trolling?
Nooo, you never 😉
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- No Servers Showing
- Player Level Resets
i see so to level up and unlock further loadouts for units i need to play mostly in rival territory?
If you want to level up then start the game as engineer, build nodes, and then spend the rest of the game delivering supplies to objectives as the class you want to level up
and if i want to be artillery?
That way your helping the team by delivering defensive structures/ garrison nodes and leveling up your clsss
Just… play artillery?
I don’t get your question
Is there no class for it that i unlock later?
i can just in question take a gunning position?
Yup. Although if you're not responsible with it, you may upset command 😬 It uses their ammunition which takes away from bombing runs, strafes, etc.
i see, thank you
If you build nodes, you negate that first.
how do i load whilst inside does a teamate need to help me?
nodes-? sorry im new
engineers can build nodes to produce 3 resources for the commander
one of them is munitions which gets used for ammo.
oh so playing as an engineer is a good idea if i wanna do artillery?
i can make my own ammo ?😅 i think
Engineer level 1 builds nodes. It takes 150 total supplies - which you can get from a supply truck (150 in a crate), supply drop (100 supplies), and support player (50 supplies)
thanks!
If you want but it’s not recommended. If you want to play as artillery then you should be playing rifleman as engineer is a very strong class for attack and defense
Nodes generates munition, man power, and fuel. Munition is used in firing, but also for command abilities. It's 3 for a HE shell, 5 for smoke I believe?
is it better to find someone to play with or can i solo with voice chat?
Well, you need 2 people if you want quick firing. One does the bulk of the aiming and firing, while the other reloads and helps turn the gun. If you solo, you have to switch seats to reload.
And I'd say if you're trying to do stuff in VC, be a locked infantry squad (solo/duo?) so you can communicate with command chat.
Also, probably watch some gameplay of it to understand better before hopping in and screwing the team over 😅
test
@slate canopy I was right about DDoS, dev bried #209 talks about it, you were a lazy mod 👎 to inform the devs when I told you the day before.
I am not a dev so I didn't know either.
Not until Ben shared.
I've told you entire asia is DDoS, and its HLL under attack
Okay. I didn't have any way to confirm it.
you're a tech bro?
name every computer
you gave me warrrning and told me to drop it ...
i still wouldnt take that too literal since what the devbrief says is obvious not entirely correct
80% of europeans servers was with Chinese
im not saying there were no attacks, probably still are
but the number they named indentifies the cloudflare attack that lasted 45 seconds, so that obviously doesnt relate to the hll server problems
I found some chinese that could speak english, and they said they are on european because asia has ddos
chinese on european server with 250+ ping , that means something bad, either zerg cheating or their servers are down
idk where chinese people play and how many, there are no hll servers in china
well they do play HLL, I cant tell you more than that
if they have same HLL version like ours, you are right, in china red blood is not allowed, I think its same for gore
probably VOIP too...
blizzard had to partner with a 3rd party in china to be allowed to have their game and server
you are 100% right hll doesnt have officially any server in china
Maybe just Asian players?
Singapore, Japan
they had chinese name, and to confirm they got mad when I typed 1989
Lmao
why would they, nothing happened in 89
What is ddos?
Denial of Service
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I love you, but is 7:38 in the morning and I'm not going to watch a video
Can you give me a short explanation for dumbs please
Spam a server with requests until it crashes
That video is for dumbs, literally
You know me so well ❤️
It's funny you turned out to be right when he was basically telling you to shut up, called you racist even 😄
well well well
how the turntables
and I said its DDoS against HLL not just one server
Amogus?
Why are you even up at that time?
1812 needs to be a film
The greatest surprise attack in history
Not pearl harbour, not 9/11 but the burning of the White House by the Canadian regulars lead by the British
Canadian superiors
Life is hard 😭
The Canadians, the native Americans and Brits all one big happy family
If I was a dictator, I’d pull the name of a country out of a hat to invade, because even though it’s insane, it would be hilarious, call it the “hat wars”
Yeah you are jack sparrow alright
Captain Jack Sparrow
Disconnect, fatal crash, disconnect, fatal crash, disconnect, fatal crash!!!!
@fluid pawn Can y'all fix the hit registration already
@fluid pawn website links in telegram post send us to dev brief #209
Updated thank you bud
Was about to say, it went to 210 for me but nvm😆
Update 18 didn’t go as we all hoped understatement of the century lol
Shooo
Go back seeding your server
Working non-stop is taking its toll.
TLDR: testing is a good idea
Lots of testing this weekend
hiring QA so customers dont have to be testers, even better idea
Any news regarding the new death cam fix
Anyone notice while injured you can see a slight outline of the player on the otherside of the wall from you? Had it happen on Carentan yesterday
As we previously mentioned, the PhysX issue that plagued the early part of U18 was so unique that in a QA environment it may never have been discovered. It was only on a live-server did it come to a head. Hence why we also couldn't roll-back as it would have caused issues in the long run had we not been able to find it and fix the issue as we did in Hotfix 2.
Yes please folks
Looking forward to seeing all the thoughts on smolensk
Will day, night or both versions be tested this weekend?
ya never thought to test shooting at stuff or driving the panther anywhere before ya released it?
ill rephrase
you never thought to test shooting at assets you knew you reimported so had changed?
quonzer is funny
they claim their standart protetion can handle 15Tb/s but its somehow not enough :D
it doesnt seem to be fully resolved, just reduced
how so?
it actually says: we had to find the bug so we decided to make it a public alpha test
I just can't stand all the "just roll back" whining
i mean it is unrealistic with t17, but for a normal development process it would have been the only sensible thing
I disagree
i guess you dont know normal dev then
If you say so 🤷♂️
@fluid pawn, when does the armor team plan on making changes to armor (whatever they may be) from all the feedback?
Maybe writing a poem will help again... 🥲
Roses are red, violets are blue, im still having crashes and so do you
9/10 because I didnt crash once
its back to pre disaster rarity
ouch, yea
there once was a man from nantucket,
dev aked should we test this,
T17 said f*ckit
Armor changes will be going out with U19. That being said I'm meeting with them tomorrow for an update on what they are working on
"Trenches and Tenderness"
Under the gray roar of dawn,
mud and gunpowder clinging to my skin,
I found a flicker of light — not the muzzle’s flash,
but you, Ben, crouched beside me,
your breath fogging the cold like a prayer.
They call me Glow, but next to you I am only ember,
shivering to your steady flame.
The world is ash and iron,
yet when your hand brushed mine —
the war fell silent.
Oh, how we laughed between shellfire and shadows,
trading smokes, trading glances,
pretending the thunder was just a storm
and not the sky breaking in half.
Then came Update 18 —
so broken, so cruel, so unforgiving,
like the war itself.
We whispered to the night,
longing for a permanent fix,
just as I am permanently fixed
to Ben’s beautiful brown eyes —
your eyes, Ben —
where peace lives, where I do too.
When the orders come, I march beside you,
my heart tucked in your pocket,
a secret letter no bullet can pierce.
And if we must fall —
let it be into each other’s arms,
not into history’s forgetting.
For love, even in ruins,
still glows.
👨❤️👨
Amazing
Ben give this man a free DLC
You the man
When vietnam is coming
2026
When Update 19 or 20 inevitably introduces either new game breaking features, undetected bugs, community outcry for lack of feedback, I wonder if we will be able to quote parts of Dev Brief #210.
https://discordapp.com/channels/316459644476456962/1407788593677733970
Latest post went out yesterday a sick in game vs real comparison of the type 56
I really hope not 
ah hope
Which quarter👀
As long as its no where near May 26, then we’re golden. Whats the over/under on Rockstar changing the release date for GTA6 again?
q5
they changed the release date for U18 cos of BF6... oh wait
Please fix the vote to kick, we keep getting trolls that join and we can't kick them because it says "players may only be voted on every 6 minutes please try again later" even tho they haven't had a Vot to kick placed on them
btw, in a normal dev process no work would be wasted with a rollback
A console only crossplay option would be beautiful ngl
q6/7
does console not have the Crossplay ON/OFF in the options? 👀
Some good and encouraging info in the Dev Brief there Ben. Good to see that theres some lessons learned and the Dev Team are looking at more stability improvements
Also good to know i was right about why they didnt do rollbacks 🗿
-# suck it software engineer guys who thought you could just ctrl+z
And then I can't play with my friends on ps5? To which we're stuck with getting obliterated by kbm players. Hardly a skill issue when you see the clips of people snapping to like 5 different people and being accurate on every shot, not possible with a controller let's be honest
@fluid pawn when pte for consoles?
And then theres the player count issue of crossplay off entirely🤷♂️
And why not input based crossplay still? Updates are on the same timeline
Then I'm confused what you mean with "Console only Crossplay"
Meaning consoles can play together without pc
Is there not? Lmao
no, there isnt
I guarantee the pte would be bigger
crossplay is for "Crossplay between PC-store variants" and Crossplay between Console variants"
Even on community?
there is no pc-to-console crossplay
Yes but I wish we had crossplay as this is a next gen title
Itd be hard to do PC and console cross play.
You are not playing against pc players if you are on console
Many other games do this. Input based match making. Consoles can run kb&m
If console players started playing against PC thered be loads of whinging about M+bk being easier to use than consoles analogue sticks
there wont be any crossplay between pc and console, so no worries there
Which i just did, stupidly🤐🤣
dont think vietnam will get that either?
Rather the inverse, aim assist is too strong wahhh
I hope so. Game will eventually die without it. In this day and age no crossplay is crazy
Nah, we dont wanna play with pc🤣
It's perfect just the way it is.
I just want a bigger unified community lol isint it obvious
Gotta remember the PC base for the game was built before crossplay was a standard or jist as cross play was becoming a standard. Saying that, does BF6 have cross play between PC and Console?
If you're on a console and want to use a keyboard, buy a PC.
The floppa speaks
The Floppa has spoken
Just buy and inverter thingy
Praise the Floppa
Remeber guys. Console server browsers were impossible
Are you referring to one of those devices that tricks the console into thinking the keyboard is a controller?
Thats what BM said back when they didnt wanna do the work
That's illegal.
We start crying hard enough they'll Bend the knee
T17 said this too
Only you will never get enough people for it because at least half the playerbase hates the idea.
I mean... they still did it...
And the ones that don't hate it are either cheater kbd users or will hate it once they experience it
People don't know what input based match making is huh?
Imagine being such an absolute dweeb that you’re setting up to play kbm on console games that don’t support it
Lmao matchmaking
Skills based matchmaking
Overrated af, just give me a party feature
That exists
Only for poor people tho
Have fun with your 25 player pte
-# kidding
Ok
Id like a party feature but youd have to rationalise it with numbers balancing
Itd be the only game with 8/8 well placed garrisons
When they gonna pull an ags on us
Nah ive never done a PTE and i will use my right to complain liberally
Im gonna revoke your complain license
Im just need to run it by the master of all complaining
Ohhhhh Sam!
I got this…
ONE MAN LOCKED SQUADS ARE PERFECTLY OKAY TO PLAY AND TEAM WORK IS OVERRATED
Tu18 where they test changes on playerbase cuz no pte
one man SL is perfect for spotting and trucking
Back when you could lock squad and designate for logistics
i 1-man lock squads all the time to build garries for the team with a supp truck or to find bad guy garries/nodes/mark tanks for command
sometimes you just dont wanna deal with herding cats
Or 3 man for arty etc
Its just a thing. Sam and i butted heads about it because i like my one man locked squad when im talking to my mates on Discord playing other games. And i hate micro managing people who cant read a map
Did they fix crashing tho?
id rather arty be 3 solo-locked SLs
so they can see all the marks
put down their own marks
and not have all the guns shooting at the same things
I like arty being sl so you can mark and put a forward op
Hope so. We will see how it all balances out
lol at the Dev Brief answer as to why they decided against a rollback. dude, do you not maintain seperate code environments?
88mill puma when
Obviously not
oh my god
They have no backup of anything
Have you seen thete previous dev brief. It's all idk. Yeah. Cool. Well look at. Gaslighting 101
They probably wont even be able to shoot straight
Luchs on crack aim
Try to make a ‘new’ thing that isnt just a reskin of something else already present Challenge: Impossible
I dont believe in two diffrent firemodes would be evne considered
I feel like you dont know what a SPA would do...
I don't see an open top cuz they can't animate to save there lives
well, SOMETIMES 1 shot by bazooka.
I doutb it. The assault gun shermans are built on the same chassis and M4E3 shermans
Give recon tank something to kill easy af
its just the sherman with the 105
The only spg I see is saving private Ryan end scene 20mill
Just depends by what they mean by SPG tbh. Because there is a big difference doctrinally and formfactor between an 105mm sherman and a Priest self propelled artillery.
I think the terminology being used by the Devs isnt quite right
that was an AA gun wasn't it
What is it actually going to change about how people play tho
It was an spg technically I think. They have timed fuses
Peobably only recon...
nothing. its just something new for the sake of something new. if they remove the HQ arty, NOW we are talkin'
Flak is just a timed fuse
Willhem
although i would have preferred mortars
SPA and SPGs generally refers to an artillery howitzer mounted onto the chassis of a track or half tracked vehicle.
Having something like a 105mm sherman or a STUG III isnt self propelled artillery
Leave me alone
Do you own a lederhosen?
I'm disappointed, I thought you were German
Man, not every german is a bavarian.
Thats like saying every american is a cowboy
I can't wait till they delete arty and add spg and it dies to 1 bazooka and you get steam rolled cuz you can't kill German spg on smdm cuz bushes
or everery spanish person a mexican
They aren't?
only cowboys can be real americans
It's diferentes because Mexican is a whole different country
So then, do you own pickelhaube?
The irony cuz alot of countries looking up to America
Im not prussian either
Are we?
You should have said that we all wear a Cordoban hat and a flamenco dress.
skill issue then?
@worthy charm do you own a panther in your basement?
Non-system German
Willes, what flavour of german are you?
Yes
@finite berry Your time to shine
He's also Turkish?
I don't know but at least he is not Ukrainian, like u are
shotguns didn't exist then
🙂
kedo isnt ukrainian
This is not kedo
But I'm not Ukrainian, I'm Polish
lol
its kedo, this is his mostly reasonable account
He's name every Russian person in chat as a Kedo
No, I don't want to accept it
:}
Fair enough
not true, althought it happens to be so
No, it's not, muchacho
Eyey calm down ivan
I'm Irish
:/
No, potatoes mostly
Hello.
Anyone know of any PS5 English speaking HLL clans in Europe?
I already joined The Circle but they are PC
Nah ur to chill to be kedo…
Pizza styles
Detroit > Chicago > all others
“12 points from Gryffindor… for that terrible.. take”
hey fellas, i read the dev post and am a bit confused on why rolling back can cause issues
if i were to guess, it would be because of possible UE updates
Delete North Africa maps
Someone can’t do Tobruk Drift
You pop off in a jeep and come back and still see if you still don’t like the NA maps
My boi dissed New York pizza
why I cant host a server on my own personal hardware?
I have the hardware, why do I need to go to a 3rd party?
we need to have the tools to do that, asap!
A variety of reasons have been mentioned, many of which boil down to server files getting into the hands of bad faith actors.
But also things like certification processes are much easier when there's only a few professional parties that you have to interact with
You've got player progression, to name one thing that is a huge issue 🤷
that can be disabled
Which is indeed something that can be (and possibly has been) considered
it would be great, I can do with arma 3, rust, and many other games.
it saves a lot of money
Yeah for sure, the community I'm apart of would love to self-host as well
yes also to be able to mod the game
Are you allowed to say that without your PR Manager?
what are you trying to say?
That Critical will have a serious talk with abu. :}
I dont got the gif for it sry...
Aww, ruined my joke, I was gonna act at PR manger 😢
Sowy 🥲
Inside joke
anyway, we need server tools and mods support, the game becomes stale quickly
mod for king tiger 2 if devs wont add it
You're free to suggest in #1098158460463480842 although it wouldn't be the first time it's suggested.
modded servers are the best to make new things, might yeld good things from abomination
thank you very much for the help, me and my duo got 25 artillery kills and one vehicle, seeing as ive been playing for 6 hours i find it very pleasing
Glad I was able to help
Keep up the good work!
then a mod that adds 12.8cm Pak 44 anti-tank gun
ww 2 was fought with all kinds of weapons
Im all in for big guns, but maybe lets focus on stuff there wasnt just a few of ever produced.
I mean I like stuff like idk... the sturmpanzer 4, but there was a low number made, so other tanks like the stug 3 which fill a similar role and were more common are the better choise.
But it’s Wednesday
No it isnt
Sh*t you right
Adolf hitlers nephew served in the US navy during WW2
You're ignorant
50/50 on buying the deluxe editon of Hell let loose rn
Unless your trying to be historically accurate (cough plug for our project here cough) I wouldn’t go for it
A lot of them are meh or inaccurate
I haven't played hell let loose yet before so figured deluxe editon would be good
Just don’t get it
To start of with
Ain’t worth it
Game doing that bad nowadays
Was planning to buy just the base game but wasn't on sale only
So why not Deluxe edition i guess
Ultimate was just on sale recently for like $25... guess it's now the deluxe.
You can either wait for another price drop on base game, or just get the deluxe, if you want.
Is the performance good i heard the last updated kinda hit it hard
Last update did give some issues with connectivity, but it's improved.
I mean, I played recently and didn't have issues, some people are, but the complaints are way less from what I've seen.
Is there a high learning curve?
In the game?
It can be a lot of information that's overwhelming.
i played games like squad 44, squad, arma 3 and reforger
A lot of players who play Squad and Squad44 play this as well.
Have you watched gameplay or watched some guides?
Yes alpine sniper mainly
No
Most of it is just map knowledge you gain over playing it the normal gameplay loop and mechanics are incredibly easy to learn
HLL’s whole thing is “wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle”
Hmm
The customization and classes seems fun and unique
Not particularly?
It’s just 2-4 loadouts to choose from for each class and then a helmet, head, and uniform slot for cosmetics
It’s basically BFV but watered down
Hmm
The pictures of smolensk looks amazing
I am excited to check it out
Weapons seem good but not historic stg44 and fg's
In HLL Vietnam will their be tunnels ?
We don't know all the stuff, but I believe they had given some information. Check #sit-reps or the website.
https://www.hellletloose.com/game/hll-vietnam
All I plan on doing is when shooting while in a huey. " Anyone who runs is a VC, anyone who stands still is a well disciplined VC "
Really good
At least for map lay out, I love this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NzFgDn629U
A fan-made journey showing the authentic locations of in-game tactical maps of Hell Let Loose, a platoon-based realistic multiplayer first-person shooting game for PC/Console set during the Second World War.
The maps are based on the actual locations during WW2.
Geo-referenced and transposed on Google Maps.
Compositing and final editing for vi...
Oh glad to see there using actual satellite maps
This is a h andful of them.
We have 18 current maps with Smolensk being the new one to make it 19.
A good chunk. No customization. Roles can unlock certain weapons with different loadouts at different levels.
i heard the grind for the levels is kinda painful
with some loadouts
Can be, but there are ways to get lots.
There’s actually only a few maps that use satellite photos
Most of the maps have a lot of made up locations for gameplay
Still cool though
only one that was actually annoying to me was assault because you need level 9 for the german raider, and so you're going to be playing lots of assault with weapons that aren't good for a lot of situations
What is the gameplay and experience like on severs that are level 50+?
How different is it
Most of the time is the same no garrys experience but the people shoots better
"new player friendly" servers are just tons of people smurfing so not much different
Some are better than others but generally youll get longer games and more garrisons. The actual players tend to be a bit better because those servers attract comp guys
Hi @fluid pawn,
I am well above level 50, but I still haven't obtained the trophy that requires reaching level 50. Is this normal ? Any solutions ?
Thanks in advance 🙂
They also attract milsim players, though the comp guys Keep them in their place
Nothing wrong with role-playing unless you are taking up comms in command chat
Milsimmers are proper weapons tbh. Irks me when they dont even get the terminology right
They have weird names for different parts
Everyone should follow the bible
The Hell Let Loose Bible
Although it would be good
Milsimmers love to call every US tank a Sherman, and every German tank the exact make and model because they've put a little bit too much time into their 'research' 
Erm you see it's because the Germans were far superior and if they had just made a dozen more doofengooblebizmerch IIs they would have won the war 🤓
That's true
You not wrong
People who know the tanks exactly down to the type and production time have to much time anyway.
Yeah, like @wintry thistle
Or @pine ember
-# Im trolling btw for anyone who didnt notice :}
If you were born in germany, you're a german. if you were born in trollheimen, you're a troll.
which makes me an eagle
Guys are winter camos actually better in snow maps
Not really
The only thing it does well is hide whichever side you're on
Whatever unreal engine does for shading means the infantry ends up getting rendered darker than the environment at any appreciable distance
So your white camo appears more like a dark grey spec which is almost as easy to spot
It maybe helps a bit, but if youre running over a open field the tank will still see you across the map. :}
Alright bet
Camoflauge < Historically correct uniforms
Thank you thank you
We love using correct uniforms
How to range bazooka
Pray
Okay thanks
The sights and trajectory are busted
It’s possible to aim but anything over 50m your not looking through the actual sights
So get up close
Pretty much until you practice a ton with the launcher
Ping your target,
The ping will render on top of your weapon and you can use that as your reference
Dont ask how to snipe at 700m
I still have a live
God I’d wish they’d make variable sights
Tanks are usually tall enough that getting the range wrong by 50m doesn't matter
Maybe in the far far future
I also wish they’d fix the trajectory since the sights we see are good to 100m
Only the HLL Illuminati hold this knowledge
Like it’s a rocket, not a spring projectile like the PIAT
Press X to doubt
Thats rude 🥺
Folks, I'm dumb as a door, but why DDoS attacks are used against GSPs? I mean, taking down a specific company for the sake of it seems weird to me? But GSPs?
it makes no sense but nowadays you can rent ddos capacity and prices are down so its more likely someone does it for lulz
This changes depends on your FOV
really?!
its those iot devices
Erehnfrau 🤭
its a funny mispelling that looks like 2 different words first but its none
Go ahead, go into detail about what you really think 😉
Are there any servers that are active and have mostly millsimmers play on?
Use dark uniforms and stay near dark trees and shadows instead.
Not really. This isn't a milsim game so there are no true RP servers
Anybody who says that “tanks don’t win wars” should really study the battle of Kursk
101A is a milsim
KRRC has CO’s but you know it’s “not a milsim”
How do you even play hll as a milsim lol
would get pretty far fetched. a squad of military police just to enforce rules, tanks operating in platoons of 4 at the very least. and it'd be fun
An actual tank platoon and squads who know how to use combined arms tactics would be a sight to see in game
Детей
When are we getting info about SPAs? Etc.
Later

Even running 3 armored vehicles takes up 18% of the team (a squad and a half). If you're going to dedicate that much personnel away from infantry your whole operational strategy has to be built around it imo.
Sounds like we need bigger player counts then
250 Vs. 250 when
64 v 64 🙏
640 V 640 
Why limit yourself, I propose 6,400 v 6,400
Hell let Loose VS random village in Romania
Anybody use a wireless heatset with HLL/other games? Due to layout, wired isn't practical. Tried a turtle beach stealth 700 but it was trash. On the hunt for better options.
i use a razer blackshark v2 pro (2023) for HLL or just when i need to use a mic, the mic quality on that is GREAT and it's wireless
At this point we might as well just do the entire wartime forces of all the factions
it would be limited by playercount
so 2k vs 2k, just one server
Accurate numbers for each maps battle
Expect the PTE Dev brief tomorrow before the PTE goes live. Just had some final additions that will be confirmed tomorrow 🫡
Bannerlord can have 500 players in one server, why not HLL 
Is PTE only on steam or also on other platforms?
because they got horses obviously
Are there any 1 life events I can be apart of?
You’re living it, brother 🤝
@fluid pawn I think is was the best idea to Ping you.
PTE is only on steam
I love dev brief!
Hello i am from India and i get kicked from every lobby due to high ping but there are no Indian servers for me to join. Did i cook myself buying this game?
I'd guess there are Russian servers...but you can try joining the Aussie ones, or Japan, Korea and China
You can't know if he's actually a part of this one, maybe he's just watching it


