#mess-hall
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@worn shale Sir, why are you adding me on Discord as a friend
DMing random people to join your clan isn't ideal
Can you join my Clan ? 👀
No, join my clan!
:huh:
If only you were on PC
Noppa is upset because he doesn't want to lose me from his clan
Take him, i will pay


I'm lucky to have convinced WTH to let me do whatever I want
No other team would let me RP in wheatfields for 90 minutes
I assume we can change that also my friend
Game issues and you’ll still find people who find a way to blame consoles
If it doesn't work for you, it doesn't, but it works for other people and I was just trying to reach out.
PlayStation and Xbox now singing koombaya
Never thought I’d see the day that halo would be on PlayStation
In about 1 month in the Antarctic
“Sir the ice is singing in german”
7cav 😉
7TH
I heard WTH are the best of them all :}
When’s someone going to make the YMCA on hell let loose
Your videos are missed, wild bill.
Are we still going to get that 50 men vs 50 women tournament in Hell?
Sir, I fear to ask, but did you ping the wrong person?
No, I forgot to turn off notifications
never!
I'd be put in front of a field marshal in minutes
The 7cav wiki is the 8th wonder of the world though
Not true, they don't let me play commander anymore 🫂
gotta keep you locked, ever since the Katyusha-Tiger-Incident
Only good players allowed in there.

so any crashes yet?
92% win rate as commander across scrims, tournaments, and mixed events 🙃
In 2024, at least
Why not 100%
True
Oh god
92 %??? holy
How many server banned you for being to good?
Only one, but I don't play pubs much and I'm not a great shooter
No 360 hip fire kills from jumping down roofs.
weak
Just crawling highlights from me
I really like that someone's job in comp games is trying to find me
Facts
human weasel
Absolute creature
Devs should take a squad into Squad Line battles on a Tuesday for fun show some love to the comp side 💪
Hows the hotfix working
pacific when
when the age of men ends and the hamsters rise
GLORY TO OUR HAMSTER OVERLORDS!

HLL plane DLC when
never
but im sure you will have fun with helis in Vietnam
no crash reports so i assume the fix was effective?
yeah #1430214896259436665 seems rather calm today
Thats HLL tanks in another timeline where they added the tinkerer
anybody else getting netwerk error? tried the beta but still broke
By today the beta is the life build
game is still broken
It will crash on xbox no matter what lol. As long as it's fixed on playstation then I'm happy.
Why is the new death cam forced and not an option ?

Tank Flip
Tiger flipping - Standing on the front of the tiger tank with a smoke grenade primed, resulting in the tank flipping or leaving spawn.
"
someone know how to fix the bug of not all servers showing up
Refresh until they show up
Are your servers visible for Epic players?
How does this even happen 😭
Id send the vid but i dont have perms
Check dms
Ok so, after seeing it
I'LL GUESS that because of the grenade physics the game Probably gets confused and sends the tank flying
Can you please send it to me as well? 😂
Lets be honest
that would lowkey be peak
Wtf???
I’m definitely trying this out later
I just did, it works
Dude imagine if
If the game allowed you to use the shovel as an actual shovel and dig holes on the ground, it would be meta to dig holes on chokepoints and get tanks stuck to make armor players miserable
That’s hilarious
I’m absolutely going to try this in game
Those are called “tank traps”
If they did add that mechanic though it’d be funny because you 100% know it would work even on roads so tanks litteraly can’t move onto points
is the hot fix a fix or is only hot? it isnt even hot, colder than ice
"Ice cold fix"
Sounds great
you havent aswered my question
I mean it works great for me.
Noooo crashes at all :}
ok, game is cooked
huh
it fixes the one thing i think
I said Ice cold fix
from where comes the fire?
but it seems many players are already gone....
German humor is no laughing matter
-# get it AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAAAA
was gibts denn da zu lachen?
huh?
:D
Dont tell me you dont get it
soooo, regarding Tiger flipping.... Panzer 4 as well, the same technic with smoke
I guess with no front pen as the allies, this makes up for it🤣
Chrck the vids i just sent
so it is kinda balance change right? 😄
So flipping tanks so far:
Tiger
Medium Sherman
Panzer 4
Looks like it
I submitted a bug for this issue, we will see.
Like sure, this is a weird bug but like
How the hell are the devs letting so much weird stuff get through
They need to halt all updates on this game and just rework the code dude
delete armor entirely and make it again from scratch
I created a petition for the rollback of update 18 please sign it and let’s get these problems fixed properly
So far, tanks affected by the flipping bug:
- Tiger
- Sherman (Medium)
- Sherman 76 (Heavy)
- Stuart
- Panzer IV
- Luchs
It looks completely broken. Tested on both, practice range and private(clan) server. Behavior is identical.
Would be nice if our freaking server would show online instead of offline considering it is DEFINTELY ONLINE. man you guys need some serious work. Fail after fail with these patches
Did you guys fire the dev team and resort to using chatGPT to code this thing?
I wouldn't blame the devs too much, honestly
This is UE4 we are talking about
It's such a random engine
if you want Devs to blame, them aim it at Black Magic for making such an unstable game and selling it on
What a Weird Al
I don’t blame the devs. The underlying issue seems to be the codebase structure. They should pause new updates and focus on stabilizing the foundation. Otherwise, nothing will change, and each update will keep introducing new bugs, as we’ve seen so far.
I prefer to blame the devs that took a working game, and turned it into a crashing behemoth.
lol, it had some pretty major problems before T17 took it on. Just less people whinged about it
weve had a server since you could have server on console. This is the first time we have had this many issues.
This is the first time weve been "Offline" except when the actual server hardware crashed and we had to migrate to new hardware
so this level of disconnect is indeed new
okay, i've played on PC since before transport trucks were added. I bought the game pre-release. Most of the problems, PC, or console, are because the foundation of the game in very poorely coded
T17 are not doing themselves favours adding in big updates, but they are not the fundemental problem
jokes on you, i already know my own IP address
so the server you run has had issues this entire time? going offline, and the immense crashing?
nope. But if you follow the telegrams and have a little bit of knowledge, youd know that A) the problem didnt show up in testing and T17 had to create an entirely new test environment to induce the problems. and B) the fundamental coding on the game doesn't like having new updates because its not that stable. That is because of BM.
As much as I defend them, it feels like the most problems of U18 could have been avoided.
But yeah I also would rather blame BM for most of the weird coding.
im not so sure, my limited experience of testing software for industrial PLCs says most problems only happen when stuff goes live. Not even commissioning will reveal all the problems
Spaghetti is messy.
i could fix him
this is the first time there has been this level of problems. I understand your stance but you are quite wrong.
Spaghetti with any sauce vs. my T-shirt
The win-lose ration doesnt look good for me.
no, not the first
it's the second
U14 was worse
dude your blaiming the car infront of you for braking when you crashed into them and not the deer in the road you didnt see. I am not wrong, I've paid for and hosted a lot servers in gaming over the last decade.
For me....
this is nothing like that. how were we "Following too close" by running a server.
this isnt even the first time DCs and server crashes have happened
a lot of word salad here. good luck
is there a Verify for the server files?
ah, he is imploying the, "i can't understand what you're saying because i'm not smart enough" defence
verified multiple times.
Have you tried deleting the config file I mentioned and re-verify - see if it changes anything?
word salad is what people with schizophrenia do, and since my anology makes perfect sense (unlike yours), stay mad i guess.
I remember a hundred years ago as a server owner our server showed offline and it was something as stupid as the version number in the config file being of the previous version.
as i said, this isnt even the first time servers have had issues after an update
there was a time when RCON could cause problems and we switched to battle matrics
Oh god
oh nah please delete that
That gif is awful
i was smiling when i wrote it
give me admin powers for like 2 seconds so i can put you on timeout for that gif
I removed the embed
Replace - the blinking will cause Epileptic seizures for some. 😛
i hate i have to read that everytime i open the game
ROLL IT BACK!!!
roll back = yeah lets cause even more problems
Is it fixed?
click on HLL in your steam library and hit ctrl+z
How is that going to cause more problems? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I play on Xbox
Should be. Some servers not appearing. Been pretty quiet.
do you know how coding works
Obviously
YES. ROLL IT BACK!!
when you go onto the main menu hit ctrl+z
Yep, everyone needs to scream it.
Don't worry, this game has 6 months MAX left to go. After that it will be dead. Anyway
=IF(1+1=2,””,1+1)
then
🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️
People are saying this for over 4 years.
Like 7y at this point
Even back with BM
Player count has almost halved in the past month. With crashes and issue like this the rest will be gone in no time
i think ive heard this during every update and when even stuff like enlisted came out
shhh you'll summon her
Or or or
HLL isnt going to die any time soon.
True
Even if development stopped completely HLL would live on
Slow and painless on a farm
You can't hide from me >:)
long as there are atleast 2 servers a night and like 300 players it wont be dead
Thats the S44 player copium version of not dead. 
I think youre mixing things up
BM did that long before T17 lmao
Games been steadily going downhill for years
her?
Elise
pronouns not in bio
i swear if you read Elise in your head with a german accent it sounds masculine
in my country its a girls name
unless you identify as a Lotus Elise
Nope 😄
I don't identify as anything other than what I actually am; still, my name refers to the dinosaur 😄
your pronouns arent in your bio either
yes, i'm not a moron
that is to say, only if i were to put my pronouns in my bio i would be a moron
this qualification is so herr doesn't yell at me again
meh i live and let live. I believe in self determination and im not interested in hurting someone's feelings out of principle. so like i'll call you whatever you want.
if someone has preferred pronouns ill use them, if not i default to what someone looks like i guess
or in this case, if they have a girls name]
I'm a guy 😄
sorry need to Dues Vult 7 times to make up for it
Right, less pronouns, more racism, am I rite :')
(For the mods this is a joke)
Actually... it might be joever. Lowest the average and peak player count has been in the last 4 years. Somebody please post the new bluedrake video titled "BF6: The HLL Killer"
Don’t make me tap the sign
best i can do
https://www.reddit.com/r/HellLetLoose/comments/1n7v8j0/vietnam_will_be_the_bf6_killer/
How many maps are on this game
BF6 doesnt compete with HLL. theyr enot that comparable
Also the comp community literally needed to delay hca 2 weekends in a row 😭
lmfao
google search does not deliver these days
based
man youd be surprised how many people would say this seriously
So like over ten maps ?
imagine searching for "BF6: The HLL Killer"
and the first result is "HLL: The BF6 Killer"
I mean the player metrics are seriously down. But I was taking the piss out of bd and the crowd that come in here to call the new shooter a hll killer every 3 months.
17 i think
Ive only played three maps because that:O
Damn, started the game since months and I suddenly keep getting the 'lost connection to host' when trying to join a server.
Has this been a problem since update 18?
yeah just hang tight
itll get fixed
Go play smth else check back in a week
Wind mill boring just wait for a new round windmill again
All is well
So, what is the quality of the hotfix, after all? Can someone elaborate?
did that like 3 weeks ago
just had a server side dc. unsure the cause
ROLL IT BACK
ROLL IT BACK
ROLL IT BACK
ROLL IT BACK
ROLL IT BACK
ROLL IT BACK
ROLL IT BACK
ROLL IT BACK
Yea just check back in every week, they'll eventually sort it out 😏 👍
ctrl+z
not happening. they haven't done a roll back literally ever.
"How to kill a game in 1 week" - Title of Team 17's new book
Ong I just tried out the tank flipping
It works?
I’m going to go troll some teammates and try and tank out an enemy tank rq
Well it was a good 5 year run
Yep
Damn, they should switch over to new servers
lmao
One more question are console players playing with PC players ? If so how do I turn pc players off
It'll be fineee
It seemingly only works with the German grenade because I assume the way they move the grenade up and down so I need to try the other faction
No. There is no cross platform
Ur just getting naenaed on by Korean 13 year olds, I'm afraid
Soviets work as well looks like
Koreans on Xbox right
There is console cross platform
You do realize that has been said now 1000 times over the last 7+ years. 😉
Same ones that ruined Heroes and Generals should have know
This time it might actually be the truth though
I think U18 is the straw the breaks everyone’s back
U19 yet to come. 😉
Fair
cant wait for another fatal error update
There is no other ww2 game out that is playable , I highly doubt this is going anywhere
Sadly
nah
They are rebuilding Heroes and Generals now
It’s come along way and it seems like team rebuilding it actually played the game
I mean it's been fairly quiet. Sure there are still some crashes but the ones I've seen aren't ones tied to the actual issue.
And it's never been truer.
implying theres only one issue LOL
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Some players may experience the following issues during Steam's routine maintenance:
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- False Bans
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Most games to die after a 5-7 years.
No offence to you console guys, but Squad 44 coming to console would be equal to HLL coming out on Epic Games for free
Oh no here comes some issues - it's that time folks Steam Maintenance Tuesday is upon us. 😛
Ww2 games last into the ages
Tell me you're a fanboy without telling me you're a fanboy
Taken the game came out in 2017 beta released in 19 and it’s going on to 2026 it’s done fairly well
Would have done a lot better without all these crashes and the MANY game destroying updates.
It’s like that for most games
devs can do no wrong in the eyes of the mods, unsurprisingly
It’s all about how many fanboys cry about sweet nothings . It’s like this on all modern games
I know. Makes me sick how far they'll go to defend garbage from the Devs.
I literally have criticised them hundreds of times.
It’s like paid actors sabotage a game intentionally for the highest bidder
I actually haven't played but once in like 6 months but it is the only game I do play. I live my life on Youtube instead. 😉
Only thing is I can do better things with my time then scream roll back 30 times into a void or make a petition that doesnt do anything.
Same
The HLL fan experience
people whinged like fk about CP2077 and now it is one of the best RPG open world games to come out in a decade.
smile when you say that
Curious are these same devs the ones that are doing the hill Vietnam
The exact same
Im laughing over here more than I like
its meant to be two teams
this time its a good laugh at least.
Two teams is good
Still, they mention it over and over again that there are two different teams for both games, right?
guess thats different to one of the livestreams
Fatal error again🗣️
Dont trust ninja he is a secret dev.
maybe they mean different work streams? In which case, thats kinda taken for granted HLLV would infact be a different project
Ok, thats enough for today
see you all another day
So wait with the major complaints until I return
you are a dev shill and HLL will be dead tomorrow
I last on average one minute and some change before I get killed. then have to wait a minute to get back in lolol don’t let the guy who does the silhouettes touch the new game silhouettes
I get that it’s ww2 I’m going to die…. I am better at dying than killing at this point
TLDR but clown is #1 fanboy and all these past 7 years are beginning to make a lot more sense rn
my voip is not working
Yeah so we have
Team Red and team Blu, and they randomly get autobalanced when something bad happens
Anyone know why they have a maximum queue length of only 6? Really sucks having to click join queue over and over and over to get into your favorite server
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Steam maintenance has now ended but some issues may still remain until a game restart
- EAC Notifications
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- No Servers Showing
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Freedom~
Boo
Thank you. Now we can play in peace again
Do we people in the European lobby’s run by server hell let loose, a commander. Known as Mayhem20? I used to command most British lobby’s and servers. Is the new hell let loose going
Be worth commanding. ?? What are we expecting rating wise of this game
idk why people keep thinking the game is dying to be honest, if theres something i just dont know about tell me but i dont think its changing much rating wise
The game has gone from 7k avg players to 4k avg players. Thats the lowest its been since 2021
is that 4k average for any point in the day or 4k in total in one day
It’s dying 👍
The curve is going down, peaks are becoming smaller, updates are far between and garbage
it dosent rly affect the average player untill its like much much less, i havent seen the graphs or anything but ig most people can just keep playing for at least a couple years untill it affects them
FIX THE FARKING cue system. Waited 15 min in que to get MATCH HAS ENDED and kicked off the server. How about fixing sht like that instead of DESTROYING the server with CARP ppl DONT want. Do you devs have rocks in your head
agreed
Yeah I mean there’s plenty of servers still, it’s just sad to see it past its hey day
Cant beleive they waste their time on carp like they have but dont fix the baskics. No wonder this is a Ded GAME!!!
Valid crash out
I just had fun 😂
yeah, ive only been playing for a year or so and i think its a very unique fps, im sure theres others out there but i rly like hll
not dead yet man
Is the game smoother now with the hotfixes?
Seriously thos devs, if you're going to run Vietname like you are running HLL now, pack up your bags and go home. You're wasting your time and money. Small annoyances and game breaking bugs are never fixed and more are introduced with each update. You ill never succeed with that attitude.
i see this hotfix didn't solve the crash problem. 1 bad update and two ineffective fixes later.....and still no one can play
i am getting THIS much closer to uninstalling this and never coming back
I did and it’s so nice
Ty
Was bout to look for the chart, could that just be from the recent crashes with the new update or is that a bigger time frame?
Last 30 days, down 9%
Alright, doesn’t look good obv but theres always natural deviation, well see how it turns out
Got to be optimistic yk
I'm typically optimistic, but having the game and servers be literally unplayable for weeks is going to kill it that's a fact
I do, and before deploying updates its SDLC or whatever methodology you follow SOP to take a snapshot of production prior state before deploying the update so you can go BACK to prior state if something bad happens. If t17 DOESNT do this that's incredibly amazing and also very irresponsible
I dont think permanently but its fs going to tank the player count for a long while. Dont know how it got past playtesting tbh
100% back this, I work in product for a major USA company and if I pushed code like this I'd be fired lol
i love it when gamers think they know software development because they sit in mouthbreather PC gamer discords all day and think they know better than people with actual real world software development
Hllv can't come soon enough 😅
🥹 I do thooo
I ran a software development and QA team at work for multibillion dollar clients for over a decade. I also functioned as deployment manager. if i signed off on stuff like t17 has apparently been doing i would be fired so fast.
Exactly lol
I'm shook
I do think hllv can be rly good if the developers do it right, flip of a coin tbh
im shook as well, because this feels like the end for a game i loved and devoted thousands of hours to
Anyways gtg to bed gn everyone
Same same
i don't. I won't be giving them a chance.
10x more than s44 yay
s44 is trash
Go back to goonies
Do you like playing games with graphics from the PS2?
Yeah I play hll
LMAO, maybe you nee to adjust your graphics settings LMAO
Have you seen the facial animations?
But none talking about Amazon and new world here.
You should read my other comments. I work in process control engineering, while i do not write software, i write control philosophies. Fk off with the mouth breather comments.
Okay so like. Death threats aren’t allowed here
Fault didnt show up in play testing. As i said, some problems only show up after commissioning or testing.
S44 doesnt crash after updates and has better armour system
Adjustable sights
Semi/full auto
mf clearly doesn't know what he's talking about
More realistic definitly, but not better. Its diffrent, but im sure people wouldnt like such a deep system in HLL.
At the end of the day, it comes down to preference. Still, looking at the genre both games seemingly are in (hardcore-tactical shooter), it's not wrong to call S44's system better because it fits the genre much better.
Still server crashes .just roll back to pre update!!
Nah the current cadre of HLL players cant even read a map, communicate, or build spawns and then whinge when they get steam rolled by comp players
If a player doesn’t want to learn how to hit a tank correctly that’s the exact type of players I hope get turned off from the game
Give our playerbase back its identity and get rid of the 0 braincell blueberries
Too late for that. Lots of those guys have since moved on. Dont see many pre-release players anymore sadly
I played pre release, but not that much sadly
How fun was it running from HQs because the transport truck hadnt been invented yet
We love blueberries
Oh god, I remember that.
Supply trucks are so broken.
When you compare them to what there was back then...
Did the commander already had his supply drop in U8/U7?
yeah so process control engineering isn’t the same as writing code, testing it, and deploying it so i dont think you are qualified to lecture those of us who have spent whole careers doing it.
No one here has the right to lecture anyone.
Also career doesnt mean much... i mean this is a discord server...
In the Internet people usually dont tale others more serious because of something they say about themselves.
Yeah ive only spent a decade writing specifications for modifying old PLCs and SCADA systems. Talk down to me if you want, but i do spend my career telling people like you what to do, review it, and then implement it on existing systems. So it doesnt bother me if youre being a bit of an ahh
Like do you think my team haven’t taken a copy of PLC code before its been modified? 😂 of course we do.
You do not always have the ability to roll back something on old PLCs or SCADAs easily without doing as much as re-writing all of the processes anyway.
I suspect that with HLL and UE4 being quite unstable, it is not as simple as rolling back to a restore point (or you know, they would have done that. Occums razor being a thing)
But hey, if the quality of todays software engineers is “lol just ctrl+z” without thinking about the reason why that might not have already happened, no wonder software doesnt work as intended
It's all too hard for them apparently. I have zero faith in the future of this game and the Vietnam game
What’s good about hell let loose is it’s simplicity
Not every game has to be this mechanically driven game also they should have removed player agency from artillery and just left it as a commander ability
What’s great about the artillery being a commander is that if a recon team is spawn camping your artillery crews, the commander can still manually call in artillery
They need to remove player arty dog
That’s what I’m saying
Or at least make mobile artillery into a tank
In before People complaining about 88mm knocking out 76s at 11 squares
Remove playable artillery and replace it with mortars
In practise that is what the assault guns/SPAs are meant to be. Although they arent actually SPAs so idk.
Or, mortars
SPA’s aren’t needed in game
Their even adding mortars to Vietnam
Yea I genuinely don’t know why their calling them SPA’s when they aren’t
This probably has more to do with the difficulty implementing mortars in the current game with how fragile it is. HLL V is being built from the ground up
HLL is not a proper game
Yeah i dont really disagree. Instead of HLL V a HLL 2 could have been HLL on EU5 built from the ground up
This game was ruined a long time ago
That would have been amazing
UE5 is a notoriously difficult to work with engine
So is HLL’s
Only if you dont take the proper time to properly adapt EU5 to your exact need and specification
Australians on Japanese servers is why this game crashes out
Like UE4 was also pretty buggy (and still is)
????
Then multiply that and lay code over it
That’s what breaks
Kedo alt?
It’s true though the matchmaking of different Regions
Kedo alt
When the servers are peer to peer rather than dedicated
Hell let loose is peer to peer and not dedicated
No no i think this is something different, there is no propaganda or misinformation yet
...could be
Maybe
Beats being called ALU
But he’s scaring me
What’s that
Guys, as much as I dont care, rent isnt cheap these days.
ALU is some dude in SAS
Why are you bringing the current housing crisis into this
Ah
Because its not fair for everyone else if kedo gets to live rent free inside your heads.
You know 1930s Germany never had housing problems
xD
Its the PTSD man
Okay we found the kedo alt lmao
Litteraly
In servers do you ever get people asking to say anything in German?
Every-time I join a German server, there’s always that 1 dude asking the Germans to say stuff
Plot twist he’s Dutch
It maybe is shocking to you, but people actually do speak german on a german server.

Me rn
Don’t ever call a Dutch person “German” it’s like a racial slur
Im going back to work, to much discord for today
*too much Kedo
Horse
It's not him
@cyan saddle You are my favorite german here.
In my experience its worse to call a spanish person a mexican...
Hello! My game crashed randomly and gave me a weird error message. The game seems to work like normal now but every single setting and uniform has been reset to default. Is this a known issue and did this happen to everyone after the update?
:(
Thats false
The propaganda tries to make you believe different, but actually the dream of an own home wasnt fulfilled for most Germans until after the war (atleast in West Germany)
West Germany wasn’t until 1945
The total and absolute collapse of the German Empire didn’t happen until very late 1945, you have to remember there were die-hard Waffen SS who fought against the allied push; and still caused trouble months and even years after the wars end, Hell America even had SS officers as spies because early on, Germans were the only ones who were allowed to cross between West and East and that all changed because the Soviet’s caught on to them using Germans as spies.
Is server up?
My friends dad served in the German police when he lived in Germany in the 80s at the height of the Cold War, he doesn’t really talk about it which is fair enough
my brother in law his dad was in the DDR army and talks open about it.
My friends dad, I think he has trauma, he currently manages a mental hospital
"I spent a decade telling you what to do". That may be true, but you are not a coder nor have you ever managed a production deployment by your own admission. So what makes you qualified to lecture those of us who have? You literally had two professionals who DO tell you that your comment about rolling back causing more problems and "do you know how coding works" were incredibly inaccurate and then you got all offended when actual coders chimed in to challenge your innaccurate statement. And to top it all off, you went on a "Oh yeah well I know better than you I tell people like YOU what to do for a living" tirade. lmao. ok buddy.
He’s always had jobs where he helps people
every time i look in this discord, i always see dumb crap and personal attacks
i should drop this place like i'm about to drop this game
Only Narcissists take stuff personally
this discord must be full of them, then. because whenever i look in here its just people sniping at one another
I mean every community has its bad apples
You see when a supply truck gets hit by a tank, nobody panics because it’s all part of the plan but when I speak up about the shady side of this community, EvErYonE LosEs ThEiR Minds
Imagine being mad when you come off straight away being hostile 😂 “mouth breathers” mate youre in software, you sit behind a desk all day calling other people mouth breathers.
And i wasnt lecturing anyone, just pointing out you cant simply roll back in this case else they probably would have by now. But i do not believe there has been a roll back on any HLL update that has causes problems. Maybe there is a reason for that.
Your first comment to me was a personal attack lol
Its not an airport mate, just go
case in point, this Mannibus guy
calls people mouth breathers
gets upset when hes told to get back in his box
everyone else is a narcissist
Context matters.
What makes you think a studio that can't rollout a hotfix in a timely matter could manage to rollback without issue?
there's a reason why you cant roll back
...its because you didn't create a restore point/production snapshot in the first place
which is some amazing incompetence
having to wait 2 weeks for a hotfix is just further indication of it
I feel like a company or team wouldnt be in business if they were making such fundamental mistakes as not taking a pre release copy. Bearing in mind there are industry standards and governance that dictate procedures that one must follow when releasing a product.
Again Occams razor is they probably cant just roll back for a specific reason
Unlikely.
They probably do have a version to roll back too, but consider the distribution overhead plus the "loss" of new content not worth the effort.
making the decision to not rollback when you can, instead opting to cripple your service for 3 weeks making the game unplayable is itself incompetence
they cant roll back because they already sold tank skins
thats the real reason
U just mad UGA is gonna lose to GT this year
If the cries to rollback were unique to the stability issues I'd be more lenient on the community, but when it happens every patch for trivial reasons it just makes everyone look like cry babies.
Yeah they made like 500 dollaes on tank skins. The horror.
So has Ben 👀
What was the reason?
As if I remember
You can look it up yourself tho :}
I love how people say "dude just roll back the update" like, dawg they already spent the resources they can't just send everything to the trash 😭
I hope you, a stranger in the Internet, have years of develops experience to back up this claim.
-# kidding
i mean if they dont plan to do better then this argument is absolutely true
btw, why do people want a rollback now?
Hell Let Loose Update 7 days around 2020 had the best teamwork/community
Dont fear a rollbaxk will be requested until the end of time
but we can rollback tigers now
Server instability, game crashes, and tank issues.
Ive only faced 1-2 crashes since U18*. It hasn’t really affected me as a console player
I mean U18
u19 ? :D
Heresy all console players have issues
He is sus
I think I’ve been lucky
Playstation usually has the least amount of issues. Just like Steam on the PC side.
Also, I only have like 120 hrs logged into this game. I just bought it like two months ago haha
So i never got the chance to experience the older updates when the previous devs were on point as most are saying
Tbh I haven’t had that many issues only had a handful
PC side I've never had issues. I also haven't had enough hours after U17 to see the newer problems. Of course there isn't much one can do for known developer issues. PC issues though have always been a problem for the last 7 years more so than development issues.
Youre all just fanboys
you actually dont play the game at all :}
im a huge fan of tank rolling
I have my 1663 hours in the game. Level 250+
back in the days
Just give me a second I need to look up how much credebility you get for that.

I've played since U17 just not many hours to notice any issues.
Yes, but I got my hours in. 😉
that feature makes medic extra good :D
I did log in and play when folks mentioned all the crashing but I was able to play without issue. So maybe a couple times in 6 months. I do live on Youtube though instead of gaming.
shouldve just stuck to making maps and clothing cosmetics. altering the code of the tanks and the effects in game has broken so much. i really dont think anyone would have complained if we just got a new map every few months
People absolutely would have complained
worse than this?
Neither you nor me said that
Many times. I actually find it quite mild this time.
idk where you have been keeping your head. we have been in damage control for 3 weeks now with this update
still not fixed either
Still pretty mild. I've been here 7+ years now.
when soulsniper server has lost dozens of our regulars because of this update i dont think its mild. ive also been here for 4+ years
ive never seen it this bad
The current issue seems to be EOS and a ton of people aren't seeing the servers because they show offline. So that will diminish those from your community. That issue is being worked on.
thats just as of the tuesday hotfix 2. we know that. im saying this entire thing from U18 has been a mess
Sure it has but there was a workaround for the time being a first hotfix released and then finally figuring out the overall issue.
Now other weird things like tanks and the like that's another story.
When are they releasing crossplay from pc to console
Never
Damn
what crashes
Congrats devs! Normally, developers kill a game after they release the next game. But no, you want to be different. Kill the old one long before the new one. HLL was fun while it lasted.
Most of EPIC players didn't pay for the game so who cares anyways 😄
i still want a refund
Enjoy explore mode :]
I’m gonna switch to Arma
try s44
I understand frustration but not the meloodrama
Squad 44
Squad sucks
you suck :(
naw 🫂
He won't hurt you anymore
Arma is the best whole Vietnamese server is actual Vietnam people
U have to learn Vietnam to play
What if I don't want to learn Vietnamese and don't care about the Vietnam war either
You can get full German speaking axis and full "American" speaking US in HLL
Then you can play any other war
then you have bad taste
Better than this game
im having some good games again rn
tanks are flipping, nature is healing
ℹ️ **Adrenalin 25.10.2 (WHQL)**ℹ️ - https://www.amd.com/en/support/download/drivers.html
Sounds like an illegal drug that I want no part of, thanks
ℹ️ Intel Wireless drivers 23.170.0ℹ️ https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/19351/intel-wireless-wi-fi-drivers-for-windows-10-and-windows-11.html
ℹ️** Intel Wireless Bluetooth 23.170.0**ℹ️ https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/18649/intel-wireless-bluetooth-drivers-for-windows-10-and-windows-11.html
isnt that the stuff that makes you autistic
I was autistic before I had any jabs, I got diagnosed because my parents said that when they tried to teach me how to crawl and walk, I got up and walked off
Although I call that 8 intelligence
No the US government seems to think paracetamol gives people autism
Y’know they still administer morphine? They just call it a different name? They kept trying to give it to my mother with her broken arm, crazy, I honestly thought morphine wasn’t around anymore because of how highly addictive it was.
On another note they found an ancient Roman tombstone in New Orleans so whatever we’re being fed about history is total lies, I’m starting to believe those Grand Canyon conspiracies
Morphine is very much still around and effective for immediate pain management - same with Fentanyl. (My day job is drug testing of various samples.)
Drug testing eh? You work in those deadly labs?
Deadly? Nah.
I’m curious to see what a person would look like with as many diseases and infections, probably like the Nemesis or something
We provide testing for drugs like amphetamines, opiates, marijuana, benzos, etc for counties, drug courts, treatment facilities, etc.
It’s kinda crazy that marijuna helps cancer patients
It’s interesting because the Armish don’t have any of these diseases or infections nore worries
If you want to get into those conversations, let's take to #off-topic-mess-hall 😉
Dude
They should add
The panzerschokolade
And the pervitin, it would be so awesome
It would be so cool
that would be another thing medics would be good for
besides their smoke and flipping tanks
(i have been trying to flip a tank with a medic all evening, no luck)
I got to thinking. does anyone know the possibility of HLL adding more British content? Sicilian campaign? Italian campaign? Falaise gap?
rather unlikely they add anything new
they can barely manage their self-set quota of a whopping two maps per year
but they are very good at finding new stuff for medics to do
I thought you was gonna say the pacific
fuh nah gng 🥀
😂😂
just hop onto it (make sure to cook a smoke while youre at it)
Theyre too busy making BS changes that cause problems instead of creating new maps which is what will keep the game alive and make themplayers happy. They have 0 clue what theyre doing. I have ZERO faith in the vietnam game coming out next year. Imagine reworking armor on tanks, something that very few care about instead of working on new maps.
lol, everyone is convinced his own wishlist is universal
lol indeed
btw, why is that still there in honeypot :}
True lol
pls remove death notifcation and who killed you and how you died
The devs just need to listen to Hyrum and the game will be saved.
-# /s
Chats pretty quiet, has everyone given up on the game?
Yes and no
Hi all! New recruit reporting to duty 🫡
Loving the game, don’t know why I was missing this pearl out
Thats pretty normal actually
Idk man, seems like it’s the masses who wanted the armour rework given how many people complained about the condition of it. Dunno where you got the very few idea from.
People have been moaning about the crappy tank system for 4 nearly 5 years, including me and a lot of tanking veterans I know.
Longer, its not like the U10 armor rework was better than what we got now.
Yeah lol
Want me to spool up Chat?
I mean... if you think its worth your time.
Alright, no need to hurt me like that
Actual work, but it's not fun so ehhh
Hi is the game running smoothly now without server issues and all that
Masses as in the tanktards? The loud minority.
Apparently it's running better but no there are still issues
Alright thanks
Tbf, it's much better now. Still some issues, but def improved.
Yeah. Just needs more features like better damage, more variety in destruction and more tanks in general then it’ll be rite 👍
On day thel will give me a hetzer
Or the puma with a 2cm autocannon
I want my P4 H, Tiger II and Stug.
Oh and the Panther D & A because they’re good too.
One day I’ll finally see a Panther D in the mid war maps and I’ll die happy
I really need to get around to posting my tank thread soon.
Average player can't comprehend how to build garrisons yet people want a complex tank damage model
So?
Actually, a better example is people can't comprehend the 3 different hitboxes on the player models yet people want complex tank damage models
Most AT players dont even care to remember the 4 armor types and where they are.
Exactly
This just isn't the game for complex mechanics. Far better to make the current features robust than complex
Don't know whether it's a good choice to decide on what (not) to implement based on the dumbest player out there, tho
Did I say dumbest, or average?
Average, but my point still stands
Sure, your average player is dumb, but that's still the playerbase
I’ve beaten literal comp teams with a box of scraps
Name one good comp team you've beaten
TACO and my own clan
Console? Eh. You're all like 3 years behind
I helped beat with 7TH with 3/5
You do realise console and pc hell let loose function same?
There’s no “Port to console”
I've watched the top level console games. You're all like 3 years behind on meta
Yes, but if you dumb down the game based on that, you literally get Battlefield
PC Vs console would be like colonising Africa. Spears Vs guns
Alright what’s back alley hands if you know the META?
I mean the Zulu won that war
If you're naming stuff, you're RPing
So you want a hit anywhere on the body count as headshort ?? Keep it simple.
I’m not a milsim
Bro is going to explain EASY tac team thunder runs
We don’t say stuff like “SAP” and other abbreviated words
We aren’t illiterate
That’s what milsim clans do
I've yet to see a comp team on console understand how to make effective red zone plays to gain map control. I don't even know how many tank double taps I've seen on stream
You push the Infantry up first, around the flanks and avoid the open space
You send the tanks in after the friendly
Language.
After that you follow up with the airhead and then push the tanks front door
What I’ve never seen anyone do is call on their tanks to defend the airhead which works in unison
I mean, as I said an effective 'redzone' and you've managed to not explain anything about that
If your tanks can get around and behind their point even better
Really? This is what I mean. This is basic stuff for top PC teams
They don’t though.
I mean, I played commander for a top 3 team for a year... I think I know that they do
More people need to realise the airhead-tank push is the keys to the city
Who was that?
WTH
Never heard of ‘em
Can confirm. Critical is a goated commander
Professional wrangler
When An unstoppable force meets an immovable object
Oh would they have added even half the stuff of S44 99% would have been mad.
Probably because they fell off when I resigned from flare boy duty
True
Nowadays the only good PC comp team left is Circle
We all know the best Hell Let Loose commander is Krieger
Which one? Circle or Circle Juniors?
The fact that they have two says it all doesn't it
Is Circle junior their underaged element?
Clan needs to be on a watchlist
I’m assuming juniors is either their mentally handicapped players
Or youngins
You know what bothers me is that there’s no pre-comp trash talk
I'll go ahead and say that as PC defence meta adapted thanks to me, I'm probably up there
You can’t say boo to the enemy team without your CO or NCO coming down on you
So you are milsim
No
You just outed yourself
You literally just said your 'NCO' tells you to stop yapping
The years of Halo milsim clans is why I hate milsims
That’s not my current clan
All clans have higher ups
If someone from Circle would say "NCO" they would probably be demoted to the Juniors team 
I’ don’t watch the majors
I think the summer tournament sucks eggs
I like the winter tournament
When the German teams come out to play
I’m not a fan of the US teams simply because they’re comms are awful
At the height of German power, they seized the Ruhr, they cranked out beautiful machines of war
Then that panther got stuck on a bit of barbed wire and halted the entire German front 😂
Russian women
I didn’t know we had Russian women in this server
If you search up “night life Moscow”
They’re living it up the Russians, yet here in England we can Barely afford to pay for heating
I kinda want a female soviet sniper skin
Just because the soviets had cool women snipers
Although they were kill on sight for the Germans
I find the logic jump that hitler treated paratroopers as enemy spies is a bit of a logic jump
Uniformed men fighting in a combat zone isn’t exactly James Bond
people who sign up for big boy tournaments but aren't big boys yet
Thats the wrong germany...
Again
I've turned it into a running gag
That’s the cucked Germany
Let’s be real the British should have been first into Berlin
Patton: "am I joke to you"
We could have subdued with 1 hand and used the other to slap the soviets
What’s Amazing is the Reichstag was hit by everything the soviets had and didn’t collapse
What grinds my gears is that the French should have done more on D-Day
I find it hilarious they they used German carrier pigeons and not even think
The lack of braincells is amazing
The lack of French backbone you mean
What’s even funnier is how do people have time to run clans? Half are 40 yr olds with families and kids of their own
Like where does this free-time come from?
Ignoring your family and kids
you can outsource that
It’s a good thing I’m 25 and don’t have kids
You can outsource ignoring your kids and family?
I suppose that's true.
You could pay attention to your family, but pay someone else to ignore them.
You can tell clans are psychology 101
You get a group of people together bound to have issues
Like when I hear Americans talk about either 1776 or 9/11 it’s all they talk about
its all they talk about
thats probably because you inform yourself in strange places
Hell let loose command chat is a weird place
I’ve had that sh^t set to 10% on Audio ever since I first ever played as SL or commander
If he is kedo he has multiple personalities.
isnt kedo
Thank you
I’m not Kedo, not Alu, not Leeds
Not the “god of hell let loose”
Does joining a discord server after being banned with an alt and a different personality count as avoiding the ban? 🤔
in theory yes
I was not banned
You're ruining my mod bait
My account was compromised and the hacker spam botted Drew and the entire List with a fake server that would also compromise their accounts
That's what I said earlier. I was just thinking aloud.
Phony links eh
On account of I never saw kedo posting anything ban worthy.
Could never understand why people didn't like him.
its the russian imperialism
That's so 18th century.
Wait cinnamon roll is Kedo
Last I checked this was Hell let loose and not holdfast
Spread a lot of historical bs from what im aware with no credible sources
is it true, drew?
I was way up there in the chat, so I gave up
What? I dont understand what you mean, but its false stating that there were no housing problems in 1930s Germany
Yea cool, but I am German myself
You’re responding to an old conversation
I think we found the German Kedo guys
I mean carrying on from this, anybody coder or not, even with basic knowledge of coding knows that laying new code over old code will break whatever breaks during the laying process.
This is why Triple A remasters are pointless because they inevitably cut corners due purely to studio oversight not at the fault of the developers, it’s always senior management.
Because I saw it only now
You have senior management and executives who still think and act like their studios are utilising 2010 software.
i wonder who sends those guys
kedo is gone and now there is a replacement but its not kedo
I was here before Kedo ever was a thing...
If people want to believe that hell let loose Vietnam has “no” effect on the development of hell let loose, where’s the months of content? Where’s the new maps?
or maybe it is kedo and he updated his translation
Thats the point... They say HLL will not be affected, but it wont get a bigger dev team, so development will be slow as always, if not even slower
And depending on how Vietnam turns out, I dont think they will supply HLL with content beyond 2027
They should swallow their pride and get another studio to make Vietnam as a spin-off title
Having an era selector instead of two separate games
They have another studio for Vietnam...
Well, that isnt that easy
Expression games are also working on clockwork revolution
Damn xbox shifted development of clockwork from expression to Inxile
Oh no it’s gonna be a half baked game
CYA Studios
Seems like the server crashes have not stopped.
Fix the servers
Or it might be qonzer?
Server Crashes? Probably because you’re playing through the epic games launcher
Is Critical on, I have a question
I couldn't imagine playing on EPIC. Half the servers won't even show up haha
The nagant revolver is the worst handgun of the game istg
horrible recoil, long reload and horrible damage
It’s no contest the worst gun in game
it really needs a couple of buffs so it can go from "toy gun" to "barely usable"
I mean well you’re not wrong
I was about to talk about the grease gun however it shreds when you burst fire
Forget the Garand, the Carbine, the Mosin Nagant rifle, the Gehwehr or the SMLE’s, getting a headshot with a grease gun is satisfying
Pistols need a buff in general
is the M3 bad?
Give them a OHK to like 25m and we’re golden
is the grease gun bad?
no
Kind of. It’s just slow firing and the Thompson wins just by ROF alone
But it’s not a bad gun. The low ROF really helps stability
kinda
weird recoil, can't see sht with constant fire, slow firing speed
The stability might come in handy sometimes, but the thompson or the M1 are way better, fck, i think the m1c is better than the grease gun
Is HLL still in a poor state?
Kinda? No?
Yes.
It seems like a lot less people complaining 🤭
Can anyone seriously explain this to me: More than once, I know there is an enemy soldier around the corner, I am ready for him to appear, Bang I am shot then in blurred vision I see the enemy soldier appear and shoot me.
sounds like skill issue
skill is an issue in sex and golf.. not in HLL
That moment when you're in the mood to play HLL... but too tired. 😮💨
Either desync, bad timing, or something odd going on.
anyone wanna play
What is your ping usually at?
If your hand is poking out around the corner then they can shoot that and it's the same as shooting the torso
Probably desync though
My recon OP was in a bush next to a wheatfield, there for about 5 minutes, I hasn’t redeployed on it, it was really obvious that they had someone cross-teaming
With a garrison I’d say 200m rule, not near locked cattlesheds and it was night too
200% brightness + bushes are often unrendered past a couple hundred metres
Exactly no way that was found
Unless some random fool saw me leave the wheat field and leave for Pierre’s Farm and chose not to shoot
Or maybe the tank that came down the road, clipped the OP as he went past the bush, because later on a 76* rolled up, might have been a rookie mistake leaving it near-ish to a road, Ive even gotten outposts on accidents driving tanks through wheat-fields
I still think you should mantle dismantle an op for 5 seconds instead of dismantling them by brushing them
