mess-hall

[sturdy quarry]

this seems fair enough at first

but given that a rollback can take so long / unfeesible, doesnt that reinforce that actually testing the updates is even more important?

i. e. if you cant be nimble then go slow

[stiff edge]

My teammates were using 120fov with 60aim fov and i tried it it was hilarious. Can see half the map and zoom right in on people and take them out like a sniper with any gun.. im going back to squad44 for a bit.

[faint portal]

Stop cheating

Should be able to just fully close let it close then relaunch. That happens sometimes when you open it too quick before the last session closes

[covert elbow]

Oh they try

[cunning girder]

i had great game yesterday and game said hell nah and then slapped me with fatal error

[ivory wyvern]

ts pmo so bad bro

can you vc and look at this issue please

[obtuse dragon]

Dw, fatal errors give you your XP instantly

[night lark]

The mountings, recoil pistons and breach are nearly exactly the same. The KwK 42 is just a higher velocity 7.5cm KwK 40. Thats its. Physically the biggest change is a longer barrel and each round is about 20-30% higher velocity.

525cm v 361.5 cm barrel lengths. Even the KwK 40 has different barrel lengths

[cunning girder]

ahh okay tnx for info, was playing for 2 hrs and then i got crash on sainte mere eglise

[hybrid sage]

Idk why I was half expecting there to be a new message in telegrams this morning

[covert elbow]

Because they said they’re releasing a hotfix this week

[real parrot]

The fix is getting cold

[covert elbow]

Honestly a good name for it considering how slow it takes these guys to release them

[pine timber]

complain complain complain

cant hear the end of it

[dusty bolt]

Wheres my boyfriend @oak current

[harsh heron]

cool

[past veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/883599930059522071/1300758223757770803/attachment.gif

[summer blaze]

Anyone know how to fix the problem where it just says lost connection to host

[finite berry]

There is no fix, wait for hotfix

[summer blaze]

Brother I’ve been waiting for about a year

[finite berry]

Oh lmao

Then I dunno

[summer blaze]

Yepppppp

[finite berry]

I only know that U18 caused lots of connection issues for players

[summer blaze]

Well they got me

[supple ferry]

Friday night fights on new builds would be rad

[past vortex]

did you try the stuff in #1270189497719586908

[summer blaze]

Did not I will look thanks

[covert elbow]

Wait for the hotfix ig

[summer blaze]

I’m not exaggerating

[covert elbow]

He either haha

Try the tech solutions but I know some stuff in this game is just broken with no reason seemingly

[pine timber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1282367111217283214/1298311713287966840/ezgif-6-aa1c90143f.gif

[faint portal]

Ah I can't atm, at my day job

#1270189497719586908 should have some info on it if it hasn't been fixed yet btw

[dusty bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/462409534401413144/1424797525629599897/a89m0r.gif

[dusty bolt]

yup

[wind shore]

Nobody paid attention that DasAltberg flying in the wrong direction?

lets make it so that the enemy cant enter zones that they havent captured or are contested

bad game design tbh

[nova pivot]

I like holding the altberg

[dusty bolt]

If we don't get a hotfix by Wednesday just wrap it up boys

Cause we're cooked

[worthy charm]

Im looking forward to Glows S44 Server

:}

[dusty bolt]

That game is more cooked than this one

[rough anvil]

This crashing issue is infuriating.

[dusty bolt]

We had a S44, took like 5 hours to seed one server

Soon enough this game will be in the same boat

[worthy charm]

B O A T

-# sry

[warm vector]

wsp

[past vortex]

mortar boats on pacific

[cosmic pilot]

🐸

[cedar shuttle]

You mean wednesday next year when the devs are back from vacation?

[gentle lintel]

🦀

[nova pivot]

🍈

[wind shore]

📿

[grizzled kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/beach-relax-summer-dog-pug-gif-14236851

[wind shore]

🐻‍❄️

[steady vessel]

Glows BF6 server when?

[frail heart]

83 looks like an interesting game to host and aimed towards HLL type players

[steady vessel]

83 has waaaaay too much weapons sway rn. Geared towards the larpers and roleplayers in its current state. Its not replacing anything lol

[tropic light]

Already live

[nova pivot]

@worthy charm

The russians are taking over Berlin

[steady kite]

🪥

[nova pivot]

I mean the WW2 history channel

[steady vessel]

Wonder if we can get most of the community server owners to shut their servers off until the devs roll back the update. We all know the hotfix isnt going to work out like they hope it will lol.

Imagine everyone having to play on the unmoderated official servers. It'd be hell on earth for everyone lol

[bold gale]

We just recognising each other, nothing criminal here

[analog apex]

a protest like that was attempted in the past, against the old dev team. However some clans (ab)used that opportunity to seed their servers easier instead...

[wind shore]

Agree @bold gale

[finite berry]

Based

[finite berry]

No because the first one to break the agreement will profit from it

[steady vessel]

Kinda funny ngl

[finite berry]

Quod erat demonstrandum

[nova pivot]

I'm joking 🤣

[steady vessel]

On a serious note, the game is old af now. No real need to keep servers up for recruitment anymore. Most who would play comp are already in comp. I imagine it might work better this time around

[dusty bolt]

We have several

Just search Glow

[thin lotus]

30hz tickrate 🤮

[grizzled kiln]

Nice. For that cinematic experience, tbf it should be 24 😄

[thin lotus]

No match against hlls sub 20hz

Truly a cinematic game of all time

[wind shore]

So I can’t understand the developers would roll back the update or no?

Or release hotfix

[nova pivot]

No

They aren't making more updates until Vietnam

[wind shore]

The Vietnam team would come as fire fighters, if original HLL needs help fast

As it was promised that both 2 teams would work if it needs fast on 1 game

Depends on priority

[brittle shuttle]

how is the game still unplayable a week later???

[grizzled kiln]

Vacay bro. Chill 🌴 🥥 🍹

[brittle shuttle]

???

[analog apex]

the devs are/were on vacation

[frail heart]

Would be funny to see all the community servers or majority servers shutdown for a weekend at peak times, forcing people who wanna play onto the toxic unmoderated official servers.

Show the devs who keep their game alive

[pine timber]

solo tank

[grizzled kiln]

But you'd need to stand together then. And apparently that didn't work well last time. But it would def send signals to T17.

[wind shore]

Hotfix is coming and those bugs would be fixed, just patience

[frail heart]

Ive been here long enough to not be a fool and trust that

[pine timber]

💀 funny

[past veldt]

You'd never convince the clowns at PBS / EXD / Circle to not take advantage

[wind shore]

I don’t care actually, I’m not dev and I can’t know of course, but I know it could be hot fix

[past veldt]

Protest you say? How about PBS #16 gets seeded instead

[brittle shuttle]

update shouldnt have been released if its not stable

[frail heart]

Remember to seed at 6am for max efficiency. If you want to be a moderator you gotta put thise hours in on the 4am seed

[pine timber]

bf6?

[brittle shuttle]

what?

[past veldt]

Nah, just spin up the bots

[pine timber]

not that hard to understand :p

[brittle shuttle]

??????

[past vortex]

sadly

[frail heart]

Man i still get pinged every morning to seed PBS server 1 at 6am without a fail

[pine timber]

kids channel :p

every team you can make a joke out of

[frail heart]

True that

Seeding my 25 servers at 6am every morning is my motivation to wake up

[cold kiln]

Fatal error, crash, lost connection, fatal error, crash, lost connection, crash again, fatal error, server reset, T17 WTF!!!

[thin lotus]

The resident damage control guy here will say that it will get fixed and everything will be fine

[toxic shuttle]

This patch is literally killing the game, especially with the simultaneous release of BF6 and the current playtesting for '83.

[past vortex]

steam charts says otherwise

[finite berry]

exactly ^^

[worthy charm]

How dare you to bring facts into this.

[finite berry]

No, it won't.

[worthy charm]

Mods ban this man

[finite berry]

Plus, Bf6 barely has a lasting impact on this game's playercount

[past vortex]

i would have expected more impact

[worthy charm]

Thats kind of funny and really sad at the same time.

[toxic shuttle]

Peak players 7600. Over 14000 fewer than the beginning of the year. 2000 less than last month. But ok.

[past vortex]

lol

that was the free to keep givaway on epic

[finite berry]

Short-term, perhaps

Long-term, nah

[finite berry]

1. what huk said, that was during the EGS giveaway, and
2. that does not mean the game is getting "killed"

[worthy charm]

Time itsself is killing HLL

Should have added daily quests and a battle past.

:}

-# Enough trolling for one day

[toxic shuttle]

Big portions of the core user-base aren't playing right now.

[worthy charm]

On console maybe, but there isnt really any prove on that,

Steam DB clearly shows we are about the same as before U18

[finite berry]

So?

[toxic shuttle]

The patch is trash.

[pine timber]

negativity negativity negativity

be the change you want to see bucko

[past vortex]

:D

[worthy charm]

Lets stay nice and kind

[pine timber]

?????

[worthy charm]

also the negativity is pretty normal around here

[pine timber]

In no way is that being unkind.

Moving on. nli

[pine timber]

fix er up then 👍

[past vortex]

so would you take exception of me calling you a swaggerer too

:}

[worthy charm]

I dont really care tbh

You calling me a swaggerer is better than having another semi political discussion in ww2 history

[dusty bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-surprise-mf-can't-prove-it-gif-7408854170742055240

[pine timber]

@red stream see what i mean about it 💀 💀 💀

[past vortex]

never started one, why do you aloow those

[wind shore]

New hotfix would be soon

[pine timber]

join in the mr vc i’ll tell you there winter

[steady vessel]

Dawg you gotta be tired of defending T17. Do they even pay you to do damage control?

[past vortex]

now it really gets confused :D

[civic dawn]

This is the typical message that HLL is DEFINITELY not on the right way and no one really cares if the game will have a good quality of life.
u18 = 💀

[worthy charm]

We all know how bad it is when someone thinks im doing damage controll

[finite berry]

Yes. Doesn't mean the game is getting killed. 🙃

[past vortex]

ofc it will linger on, festering like s44

[pine timber]

scary

[toxic shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-gif-24746259

[steady vessel]

Didn't say no, get that overtime while its hot, brother

[worthy charm]

As if im getting paid lol

[past vortex]

now im asking myself what he said

[steady vessel]

Dont need to ask, just scroll up

[finite berry]

He's from East Germany, he's not getting paid anyway

[wind shore]

Oh finally somebody send the answer

From Greg, no roll back thankfully

Better hotfix and move on

[civic dawn]

and what about the new bugs that will come in the hotfix?
Christmas maybe? It will be our gift 🤩

[wind shore]

@lost pulsar Can I ask please? When would be PTE for U19 new map Smolensk? And it would be or not?

[steady vessel]

Wrong gif lol

[dusty bolt]

Slow down buddy. Let's focus on making the game functional first

And if they still plan to release U19 next month then they truly do not care about functionality

[wind shore]

Yo, can’t I ask about my map which I’ve done suggestion?

I was doing it whole months the research while you were playing. It’s honest and pretty fair to ask about dates why not

It’s not a crime or something

[dusty bolt]

Could be a crime

[fickle scaffold]

could should be a crime

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/lucy-fairy-tail-gif-23870098

[toxic shuttle]

I'm sorry I criticized this totally normal software development cycle.

[civic dawn]

Who will test this? The same QA/team who tested the u18? 😭💀 😭💀 😭💀

[languid zephyr]

These guys, these people will test it. The developers of Worms Rumble.

[past vortex]

thats totally how it will go tho

[civic dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/worms-revolution-worms-game-team17-victory-dance-gif-6554049621869868851

[gritty glen]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-smoke-haha-classic-stan-twt-bts-duck-smoke-bts-gif-10022538600283500295

[civic dawn]

#1425505801283309752 message

What is the goal now? It will be the achievement: -1000!

[neat glade]

two fatal errors in 4 minutes and all my settings reset

sort it out

[river rover]

See if you have any files in your crashed folder .xml and .dmp? Also check your Event Viewer see if it can point to anything specific.

[haughty geode]

Obviously they dont

I suggest just cancelling new updates and fix the game

No one cares about U19 or a PTE, what we want is a functioning game

[river rover]

ℹ️ **MICROSOFT PATCH TUESDAY!!!**ℹ️
Get those systems updated. Flip switches for "Other Microsoft Products" and "Get Me Up To Date"
Windows 10 support has ended. You might want to get to Windows 11 if you are compatible. There is always Linux too. 😉

[worthy charm]

Insert linux joke

Idk know any

[misty belfry]

Bing bong

[river rover]

ℹ️ NVIDIA GAMEREADY DRIVER 581.57 WHQLℹ️
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/results/

[dusty bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/radio-silence-that-makes-me-think-the-worst-seal-team-jason-hayes-david-boreanaz-gif-430602541323712131

[toxic shuttle]

No way, this is totally normal. Everything is fine.

Don't be so negative.

[civic dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/vacation-gif-12253393920666896345

https://tenor.com/view/girl-pool-throw-phone-gif-27518748

[leaden fiber]

oh we still can't play the game? neat

[echo karma]

Not me spamming pregnant dude emote in arc discord reeee

[slate canopy]

This would be best in off topic.

[urban shale]

Regardless of the severity of the issue its been a week, nothing is fixed. How about fixing it if you aren't going to do a roll back. The constant crashes alone should warrant a little priority to get it resolved

[amber latch]

i just spent the entire game fortifying a point with another engineer and had like 2 level 3 bunkers, LOADS of barricades mines and wire and the team lost the point in under 3 minutes, it might be over

in offensive aswell btw

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1336842672375074908/1352184849775067196/togif.gif

[worthy charm]

It would have been worse if two stachels would have destroyed it all first

[amber latch]

it was the most magnificent fortress ive built 😔 2700 support points and 3300 engineer xp

i got 12k xp from the match

[worthy charm]

Thats not that much 😅

[urban shale]

You should see some of the builds we have done on our Xbox servers, we have had people get 90k xp with almost 10k support score. Mammut Radar has never been conquered when we build it

[worthy charm]

The class xp is impressive

[amber latch]

i know, but for me 💔

[amber latch]

I wanna find organized servers cause rn it was just me doing it and another engineer joined in later

[urban shale]

Get an Xbox and play on ours lol and unfortunately the build ups will never be as good as they used to be since they ruined the Panthers

[amber latch]

Get an xbox is crazy, i wish

[raw flame]

bcs they dont know how to fix what they broke and chatgpt cant help 🙁

[amber latch]

i just transferred from game pass to epic aswell so im starting my 60 levels over

[echo karma]

Depends really. Nobody Alamo really cuz the changes most recently

[dusty bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/hotfix-patch-software-server-bugfix-gif-8291941989415165486

[echo karma]

Its tuesday innit? Damn

[errant moss]

someone please ping me when the update gets reverted back so the game is playable again

[wind shore]

"aiming next week" if you want to believe this

[slate canopy]

^ That was on Friday btw

so it translates to aiming this week.

[errant moss]

the only good update is the new stalingrad. the other stuff should all go away. its bad. esp the commander artillery that no one wants. and being able to stay in a game longer than ten minutes would be cool.

[gray lagoon]

What about the salvaging of enemy wrecks and the tank technician

[wind shore]

Today as well ^^

[civic dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/john-connor-terminator2-were-not-gif-8118377

[errant moss]

almost kind of cool. doesnt really alter meta or a huge change. would rather just have new maps and the ability to stay in a server to play a full game but im asking a lot maybe

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/we-wont-do-that-danny-mullen-we-are-not-gonna-do-that-were-not-doing-it-thats-not-gonna-happen-gif-26820936

[wind shore]

for a game that claim realism and yet removing pavlovs house, which is historically accurate, is just ridiculous

[errant moss]

i dont really care about the realism as much as a lot of people. in general the map looks and plays much better than it ever has.

but i understand what you mean

[wind shore]

[slate canopy]

Everyone likes the game for different aspects.

[errant moss]

i think the main thing everyone likes is being connected to a server

[tall kettle]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Some players may experience the following issues during Steam's routine maintenance:

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[slate canopy]

I feel bad for folks, but I've yet to have issues 😅 Albiet I only played recently for like... 50 minutes?

Also Steam Maintenance tuesday, lets goooo

[errant moss]

https://tenor.com/view/woopie-la-dee-fricken-da-chris-farley-gif-15954447

ive crashed like twenty times. either entire servers crash. fatal error. or lost connection to host.

just been playing battlefield. would rather play hll but it really sucks unfortunately 🙁

[wind shore]

So it means this Friday?

[slate canopy]

I don't know 🤷‍♀️

[wind shore]

Thanks!

[civic dawn]

We do not need a Steam maintenance to experience some of these errors 😂

[wind shore]

So it is means this week as I understand till today to the last day of the week right

[slate canopy]

I really don't know. I have 0 insight.

[wind shore]

Okay, thank you

https://tenor.com/view/well-thats-it-guys-thats-all-thats-it-its-a-wrap-thats-all-for-today-gif-14381985

[slate canopy]

Or... just be patient and play something else.

[smoky surge]

https://tenor.com/view/doctorevil-no-gif-22331678

[wind shore]

Just asking, I’m not playing this week, I’m waiting for U19 so as I understand it’s after hotfix, news

[smoky surge]

Come back in 3 months

[slate canopy]

U19 won't be till November, so don't wait forever lol

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-myers-mikemyers-austin-powers-movie-austin-powers-gif-austin-powers-movies-gif-14753235692572001873

T17 rn to hot fix it

Tbh just uninstall the dumpster fire

[civic dawn]

*The start and end of the week depend on cultural or international standards. Sunday is the traditional and religious start of the week, particularly in the Americas, and the week ends on Saturday. However, the international standard (ISO 8601) considers Monday the first day, with the week ending on Sunday, which is the standard in Europe and much of the world for work and business purposes. *

[wind shore]

I meant news, PTE, screenshots, news, release date of PTE

Of course not the update

But maybe testing

[civic dawn]

early access confirmed?

[slate canopy]

Huh?

[harsh heron]

Realism goes out the window when you have tactical level radio between officers and squad members LOL. How fun it would be if you had to recognize enemies by uniform

[civic dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/fehlerhaft-fehler-bugs-bug-gif-26196067

[bold gale]

https://tenor.com/view/чина-ес-gif-13314011395815269557

[broken shoal]

fix the god damn game, lost connection to host everyhour

[gray belfry]

@fluid pawn Can we have our game back, please? Just roll the update back…

[azure heath]

good idea

[fickle scaffold]

Why has no one thought of that

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-shocked-face-stunned-pokemon-shocked-not-shocked-omg-gif-24112152

[celest nymph]

how we doing greg

whats the status

[celest nymph]

but then how would they sell us tank skins

[gray belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/good-brain-gif-24284274

[viral radish]

is there any way to repair the track module on a scout vehicle

[dusty bolt]

theyre still figuring out whats wrong lol

[broken shoal]

third server today that lost connection

[civic dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-smiling-arnold-schwarzenegger-gif-16197002

[thin lotus]

Hll hasn’t crashed on me once

[broken shoal]

cuz u are a chum

[bold gale]

Hope they add reconnecting to server if you rejoin to HLL in minute after crash or lost connection

[dusty bolt]

Hard for it to crash if you havent booted up the game

[thin lotus]

Damn, spoilers

[pliant roost]

Y r u green

[frank ocean]

add more arty please

[thorn pilot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/883616534323396608/1427566932818919524/attachment.gif

ur right these numbers def shouldnt concern anyone

2.7k rn ya nothing scary about player count

[jolly seal]

Facts. Better yet should have listened to the comp community and left the game completely alone.

The tank explosion is also super gay. Revert it back to the original one. I enjoyed the puff of smoke in the sky from a distance. This new one is graphically dog water.

[nova pivot]

I like the adjective you used

[sweet fjord]

any news on closed beta or open beta ?

for HLL vietnam ^^

[slate canopy]

No news yet beyond the annoucement. Sorry 😅

[sweet fjord]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DOURP2mD385/

Damn okay..... probably the most excited ive been for a game

[slate canopy]

There should be updates in #sit-reps or #telegrams if there are any.

[sweet fjord]

I wonder what the American anthem for winning the game will be ?

fortunate son would be sick

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-happy-gif-14842488

[sweet fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-apocalypse-now-gif-3471178

[tall kettle]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE NOW ENDING** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Steam maintenance has now ended but some issues may still remain until a game restart

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[echo karma]

D2 called

I would disagree, Greg. A rollback is warranted given the high amount of crashing on all platforms and the tank changes were clearly untested. Also the commander arty ability, with arty is oppressive af

Rollback, get the patch right. Go from there. Not rush shady work for sake of a tu

[obtuse dragon]

dude the ADS thing is so asz 🥀

like, who thought it was a good idea

[fallen ravine]

blind boomers

[obtuse dragon]

before i had quite the hard time using the STG due to the ADS

now i can instakill people easily using 75 ads 😭

and like, i'm not using a higher ADS just because i like looking around when aiming

[hybrid sage]

uk theres no difference in the ADS zoom multiplier before and after the update right

60 FOV last update and 60 ADS FOV this update are the same

[obtuse dragon]

Are you sure

[hybrid sage]

100%

people are just losing their minds because it says ADS on the setting

[obtuse dragon]

maybe it's just a placebo effect

[hybrid sage]

All it does is allow MG players to run around on a normal FOV and then only when they aim down the sight will they get the 60 FOV zoom

buffs them just a little because they dont have to open their settings and manually move the slider from 90 to 60 anymore

just streamlines that whole process

[jolly raft]

https://tenor.com/view/fat-person-fat-boy-fat-man-angry-throw-gif-18070754048838558071

[verbal wagon]

honestly did yall even do ANY QA for this patch?

4k hours and ive never had crashes this often not even including all the other junk that is just overall bad.

and its not just a person to person crash. our server crashes almost daily now

[honest summit]

Hola a todos

Alguien puede explicarme como unirme a la div33 porfavor?

[obtuse dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress2-tf2-medic-i-have-no-idea-no-idea-gif-17644007

[silk swallow]

alright chat, hows the game? (currently redownloading) haven't played since january of 2024

[wind shore]

New map is coming soon

In November, now is coming hotfix

[covert elbow]

Not worth downloading as of now. Check back in after the hotfix to see if it helped the games performance

[mighty flower]

Does it matter where I place a satchel on a tank? will the back do more damage and then the sides like the rocket launcher?

[tropic oar]

Im just here to tell you that this game is utter garbage from 2012. Literally Parkinson gaming and walking simulator. Worse spent 20e ever. Bye.

[elder dune]

Afaik no, satchel always destroys tank completely

[finite berry]

Stunning and brave

[bold gale]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-iphone-bts-jin-jinnie-gif-23792475

[elder dune]

‘Walking simulator’? I thought we were complaining about U18 today. Make up your mind already 🙃

[thin scarab]

Its not great last update broke the Game bassicly. And T17 still didnt learn from misstakes…

[obtuse dragon]

Walking simulator? Did bro buy arma 3 by accident?

And like, What did he meant by "parkinson gaming", Is he talking about the recoil... Bcs as far as I know guns barely move when aiming downsights

I think bro lowkey just had a skill issue, blamed the game and then left

Which is completely normal and understandable on a game like this

[echo karma]

Ehh what's new. Megabonk anyone lol

T17 and arrowhead should make a baby

[main harness]

Silence is deafening... Still no hotfix let alone attempt at addressing the armour disaster... Or even some basic communication giving an idea of what they are planning.

[finite berry]

Incorrect

@main harness

^^

[echo karma]

AH same boat. Tu came out. Broke game. About a month later. Still no patch

[bold gale]

Sounds like Japanese hokku

[main harness]

That's generic waffle.

[finite berry]

So it's not silence 🤷‍♂️

[echo karma]

Greg has to go back to worms CM

Classic bait

Read the rules mate for the mods come in here smite everyone

[tawny adder]

any info about hotfix?

[finite berry]

@tawny adder

[inland elk]

wtf is going on right now? in 3 game in a row i just have crashout in a middle of game. its game or me?

[echo karma]

It is game. Take a break. Play something else. Hll will be here for now

[thin scarab]

He just steps in for the HLL CM. Calm down. No Wonder you get Banned from other Servers by Talking so much dumb stuff

[vague thunder]

HLL is one of the best shooters I’ve ever played … took a long time to get good but damn man. Atmosphere is unmatched in any other FPS

[real parrot]

En su servidor de discord, abres un ticket. El nombre del discord esta en el nombre del server del juego

[echo karma]

We already know what Greg does bro. Quit man splaining

[main harness]

Think you are the only person who has had that issue

[steady vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/watch-your-mouth-come-again-say-what-mama-cooking-gif-23834521

[bold pier]

parkinson gaming is standard term for high explosive spam when the screen is shaking

so he probably didnt like constant arty or tanks

[sturdy quarry]

5 mins until we reach midday on wed (in the uk) - so the latest we could describe as "early next week"

[steady vessel]

UK isn't a real place, so its still 7am at the latest in the real world

[sturdy quarry]

yep but T17 is based in the nonexistent UK

[bold pier]

how do I get rid of the constant Warning spam? On some servers the game will kick you if you are in squad without officer but it will also kick you when you are not high lvl officer. Its pretty annoying.

so the admin is constantly killing you at every spawn

[analog apex]

how to get rid of it? Easily - get or become an officer and/or meet the server LVL requirement.

[bold pier]

lol, I literally cant, you arent the sharpest tool in the shed. Thats why Im asking. You cant play the game when in squad without officer,but if you try to be officer to prevent the kick you will get another kick for being low lvl officer.

[analog apex]

those rules are there for a reason, obviously - so until you meet the requirements, you should play in servers that do not have such rules.

[bold pier]

so all you do is wating in deploy menu when another squad gets a room

[bold pier]

i tried 3 servers, every single one of them have these rules

there is no way how to know the rules before you connect to said server

[tired ingot]

Some servers have new player friendly in their name, add that phrase into your filters

[analog apex]

maybe you tried different servers but of the same community :/ ...idk
Usually the career LVL requirement is presented in the serve's name.

[bold pier]

so back to my original question. How do I get rid off constant warning spam which takes up 1/6 of the screen?

[bold pier]

tried "new playeers welcome" server - same issue, same rules

[analog apex]

you can't

[tired ingot]

ohhh, lol, press Y if on PC, otherwise maybe X on console

[bold pier]

bro

[analog apex]

yeah you can close it ofc, but there is no way to make it not to appear

[bold pier]

how do I stop the spam? If you press Y it will just pop up again in 3 seconds

[analog apex]

there is no way

it's an admin message - as such, shouldn't even get such option

[bold pier]

thats überstupid

[tired ingot]

yeah, you'll need to play a different class or join another server.

[analog apex]

nope

[tired ingot]

I'm surprised the new player servers have level limits tbh

[bold pier]

yeah

[tired ingot]

we don't have level limits, we're OCE based

[analog apex]

they usually don't... would love to know the names of the servers he was in but dosn't rly matter

[bold pier]

i dont remembr the names something in german

and "new players welcome" server

anyway im going to refund then, I literally have ptsd form constant window poping in the right corner

[steady vessel]

Level requirements are there to keep games from being complete garbage from new players or low levels. As others stated, find a new players welcome server. Easy is typically a good one to start with

[bold pier]

tell devs its super stupid to spam msg every 3 seconds

[analog apex]

most of servers don't have the LVL restrictions... just happening to jump into those wouldn't be a reason for me for a refund, but do whatever

[steady vessel]

Its not the devs, its the owners/admins of the server LOL

[bold pier]

LOL i dont care, its stupid af

[steady vessel]

Why?

[bold pier]

man zou are obtuse

1/6 of the screen is constantly blocked by repeating msg

[steady vessel]

Maybe... go to a new player friendly server where you won't get them then

[bold pier]

which I cant do anything about it

[steady vessel]

We're telling you the solution. Be less obtuse lol

[bold pier]

bro have you read the text above or you jsut came in and started to be a smacktard?

Can you read? Obviously not

[steady vessel]

We're telling you the solution. Be less obtuse LOL

[thin scarab]

Play official Problem solved

[analog apex]

what are you talking about man.... sorry but now you are starting to be toxic a bit

[bold pier]

Keanu: "im not obtuse" proceeds to ask "why" without reading text above

[analog apex]

there is a solution it's simple - play in the servers where the restrictions are not being enforced

[bold pier]

there is only 1 server constantly full

[thin scarab]

Well that a you Problem then. Or Rent a Server and don’t make it spammy

[steady vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/talk-to-a-brick-wall-not-listening-ignored-talk-to-the-wall-talk-with-wall-gif-16784909

[meager timber]

Guys it's a new account. Probably ragebait

[bold pier]

you are obtuse af

im out

[steady vessel]

I think Im more acute ✨

[bold pier]

no you are bimbo

[steady vessel]

Anyway, gotta go do wordle. Best of luck on finding a new player server

[analog apex]

right... discord account created 9th October, a few days ago

could be a newborn player too though

[dusty bolt]

hotfix ?????

[analog apex]

Or news about hotfix? The yesterday's testing was supposed to produce the date for it.

Maybe Greg will say something more today.

[dusty bolt]

@lost pulsar don’t leave us in the dark.

It’s been over a week since this broken update has been put out

Talk to us

[meager timber]

At this point someone needs to hack the game and dump the source code for a hotfix

[lost pulsar]

Team is hoping to have a server side fix go out before the hotfix, still waiting on news of a date

[echo karma]

[lost pulsar]

server side to address crashing then hotfix will follow shortly

[echo karma]

[lost pulsar]

will post in telegrams when they are certain on a day. yes, soon

[echo karma]

[dusty bolt]

Well. Was hoping this would have been resolved today but I appreciate the update

[echo karma]

Quick everyone spam patch notes when

[lost pulsar]

the notes are ready, I'll post them when we announce the date

[dusty bolt]

Do we know what caused the server side crashing ?

I understand the client side crashing is different

[lost pulsar]

I can ask for clarity, I'm just covering for ben so I'm ignorant to the inner-workings atm

[analog apex]

let's hope they include addressing the deathscreen and the ADS FOV 🥶

[echo karma]

And arty spam

[dusty bolt]

Ben needed a holiday from all the drama huh :p

[echo karma]

I seen him on hll tho. Totally not him lol

[analog apex]

not much spam, more like the general adjustments - being able to kill garries, getting some potential adjustment features...

but yeah, other stuff too, but the 2 I mentioned are for me the main ones as they just don't belong to HLL

[echo karma]

It deletes structures so fast too

[analog apex]

I didn't have a chance to see that yet so I haven't known till now.

[lost pulsar]

Is the too much information issue?

[echo karma]

I wonder how much damage it does to vehicles.

[analog apex]

huh? Nope, the more info the better. And hopefully a mentioned solution won't hurt 🙂 .

And EXPLORE mode needs to get the possibility of switching sides and especially to play as a Commander - we are unable to test CMD stuff in the "offline" maps and training map.

but that's just a side thing

[steady vessel]

Theres an explore mode? Why?

[lost pulsar]

Ok, so death screens are fine? We have a fix in for the death screen: an issue when killed by environment fire. But that's it for the KIA screens

[analog apex]

today I just pray the ADS FOV slider will either get limited on the other side of its slider range, or get removed completely

[echo karma]

Nobody likes the death screen lol check reddit

[lost pulsar]

That's a design issue that I've already flagged. But won't be in the hotfix I'm afraid

[analog apex]

oh, so it's actually not intended to be that way if I understand correctly? Good to know. Then I can sleep a bit easier knowing it will get fixed or removed... one day 😉 .

[echo karma]

It's also just a huge flashbang for no reason

[analog apex]

About deathscreen I meant... deathscreen should not provide us with the name of our killer. That's another thing that just never belonged to HLL.

[dim snow]

So will the hotfix be releasing this week?

[echo karma]

Information not needed nor relevant.

[analog apex]

No idea who decided to implement it on the deathscreen and why.

[lost pulsar]

Roger. No changes to deathcreen - I think we're going to stick with it

[fleet jacinth]

Terrible decision. Dumbing down the game.

[echo karma]

Same person who changed fov and added commander arty.

[analog apex]

likely

[fleet jacinth]

Literally pisses me off every time I see it that new deathscreen.

[echo karma]

Also wasn't in the patch notes nor pte

[lost pulsar]

I've passed along your thoughts and the feedback. I'll let you know if I hear anything more mate

[analog apex]

Allright, thanks so much again. 😉

[fleet jacinth]

It's more obvious with every message that you lot don't play your own game. You haven't a clue.

[nova pivot]

Game is cooked

[echo karma]

Aye Greg we get a trello board tho. Feedback channels are deleted after while. Ben didn't say much when I asked other than they have one internally and we can't see it

[analog apex]

Greg is however not the HLL CM. That's Ben's job now.

[nova pivot]

And Ben is on vacation or what?

[analog apex]

yes, he will be back on Monday if I am right

[nova pivot]

He has vacations every month

[finite berry]

Lmao xD

"new death screen is not good"
"understood, we'll keep the new death screen"

[echo karma]

My guess is forced pto. Rip Christmas tho

[analog apex]

I agree with this sarcasm though.

[fleet jacinth]

Oh I know, but the message would be the same. Also, the "you" was plural, not specifically aimed at him.

[lost pulsar]

Yeah, Ben is back next week

[echo karma]

Otherwise why all the top devs n CM take off at the same time after a major tu?

[analog apex]

the everlasting problem of English... you one vs you many 😄 . Fortunately/unfortunately we have a separate word for each in SVK 😄

[nova pivot]

To not deal with the consequences, Master move

[echo karma]

Sigma noted

Ehh the sun rises everyday. What's new

[dim snow]

How many devs actually work on this game ?

[analog apex]

it's probably like in any other job - the vacations are planned and approved even a month or 2 in advance

they may have just happened to coincide with the update release... sadly

[nova pivot]

4?

[echo karma]

Typically pto can be taken xmas time. Should get 2 weeks? Idk there labor laws tho

[hidden current]

Deathscreen good 👍 no more wkm

[nova pivot]

Read again

[dim snow]

Sell the game to gearbox ☝️

[lost pulsar]

Yep. Even more advance than that - and timelines change. A very experienced producer, who has a lot of experience working on HLL, filled in for the one on holiday. It's been blown out of proportion.

[echo karma]

F In chat

Greg what happened to cover6 studios?

[analog apex]

"Hey, our lead dev... we know you are on vacation but the update is broken, can you pls go back from the Canary islands to work on the game? I am sure you and your family understands." 😄

[nova pivot]

Spain mentioned 🔥 🇪🇸

[echo karma]

Surely they knew it was borked and pushed it anyways right

[sturdy quarry]

yeah people are allowed holidays, people are allowed to be off, just dont push something so clearly broken

[analog apex]

yup, that's another topic/problem

[sturdy quarry]

everyone would prefer slower updates that work

[echo karma]

We already know management is an issue for t17

[obtuse dragon]

Me when the war game has things that happen on the war:

[lost pulsar]

I think that was just an umbrella name for team17 and expression that we didn't move forward with

[echo karma]

Lest we talk about thier CEO

[raw flame]

i hope t17 not expecting notable sales of hllv, given the lack of any talent producing updates for hll

[echo karma]

Only time will tell?

Surely it surpasses hll sales

[fleet jacinth]

I have 0 interest in this vietnam game, which is why I'm so disappointed at the constant broken updates, unnecessary changes, and state of neglect of the original game.

[analog apex]

oh and one important thing related to Stalingrad - the Pavlov's house needs to be reverted to use the previous (not ruined) version of the same house

hopefully that's in the hotfix plans too

[echo karma]

I'm only interested cuz the trailer alone has everything we've asked for in hll

[nova pivot]

Yes please

[obtuse dragon]

I miss the old Pavlov house, it was so, so peak

[echo karma]

And I wanna see how choppa work on 50v50 600m maps

[nova pivot]

We want Pavlov's house back

[heady hornet]

first time? #oldSMDM #oldHurtgen

[echo karma]

Burning lands was a flop in a half and I believe it was ue5 no?

[past veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/zach-zach-ruane-sam-sam-lingham-mark-gif-21466341

[analog apex]

historically authentic, that's the correct term I guess

[echo karma]

Arc raiders will be newest UE5 multi-player game so good to watch for performance wise

Regardless this update has affirmed they're on maitence mode. We shall wait for Vietnam

[lost pulsar]

We've shared this feedback, will ask for more info

[heady hornet]

dont get me started about the old not laggy grass BM removed for exactly the same but laggy and shrapnel blocking grass.

[hidden current]

focus first on fundamental things that matter rather than the death screen and a house on stalingrad

[past veldt]

That update (U9?) was the precursor to HLLV

[echo karma]

CM literally a fly on the wall in the dev offices lol

[heady hornet]

Sainté-Mere-Vietnam

[lost pulsar]

artillery, tanks, crashing - is the core focus for us atm

[grizzled kiln]

U9 was when I started playing. Been downhill ever since with the updates tbh 🙁

[neat glade]

Definitely triage...there's a few things a lot of us have issues with, but yeah fix those 3 first. 😄

[heady hornet]

Toggle option deathscreen for server owners?

[echo karma]

Don't ask em for an updated roadmap guys

[past veldt]

No chance

[neat glade]

player toggle and/or server toggle would be good

[analog apex]

yep would be nice, however with that I would welcome also another hardcore-oriented toggle setting - server-wide no friendly icons unti XY (server-specified) distance. Good for events at least.

[echo karma]

They heavily restrict server owners now.

[wind shore]

The new screen is good. But, this text about who killed me, it’s not necessary really it is very unrealistic and useless information, could it be optional? The text

[analog apex]

optional only in terms of toggle by server owner/admin for all the players in it. If it would be just individually clientside optional, it wouldn't do much good.

[fleet jacinth]

I know some people want to use !wkm every time, fine, let them toggle the dumbed deathscreen then, but allow me to turn it off. It really is that simple, make it optional.

[obtuse dragon]

AND PEAK, it was fun to play, fun to see, it was everything

[faint portal]

Honestly I'm surprised people dont like the death screen. People have indirectly been asking for this change since the dawn of time. EVERY PC HLL server has !wkm and it's used hundreds of times throughout a game. The only difference is !wkm is actually specific and tells you the exact gun that kills you where as the deathscreen doesnt.

I'm curious to understand everyones take on "why" the deathscreen is bad compared to !wkm b/c if you dont like deathscreen then all servers should remove !wkm no?

[grizzled kiln]

Don't over-complicate it or they'll just break even more things

[analog apex]

👍 we can all see what happened when Peter Parker modified Dr. Strange's forgetting spell too much 😄

[analog apex]

I'm curious to understand everyones take on "why" the deathscreen is bad compared to !wkm b/c if you dont like deathscreen then all servers should remove !wkm no?
ideally... yes they should. The server admins are providing a way to get the info the player is not supposed to get.

It's like if server admins provided us with a cheat command.

[faint portal]

I agree, but if you're a server owner who "doesnt" have it people are nonstop asking for it... so i propose the question again? Why are people not a fan of the deathscreen info when the community has been asking for it over and over

It's just a strange take based on how much i see the !wkm used across servers

[wind shore]

I like new death screen, I don’t like this text who killed me

[faint portal]

I think that's a BIT extreme of an example but I see your angle

[faint portal]

I can understand your POV as you're console and dont have !wkm

[analog apex]

it's just not HLL was ever supposed to be. This feature is totally out of place. If peeps want it, they play a wrong game.

[wind shore]

It’s pretty random nicknames, not necessarily information and don’t tell me anything useful

[faint portal]

then all servers should not be able to run that command

[analog apex]

at least they have... until the devs added it and moved HLL to even mroe casual level once more

[fleet jacinth]

Someone else worded it well for me, it gives too much info, also, sometimes it can cause you to be unnecessarily annoyed if you keep seeing the same/multiple person/people killing you again and again (not always the same as your nemesis, which you can ignore). And while this is a personal issue, it's still a reality and can cause the game to become less and less enjoyable. Typing in !wkm is a choice, seeing this extra info in the deathscreen should also be a choice.

[dim snow]

What about the performance on stuttergrad ?

[wind shore]

In console there are some few server stats, but it’s really not necessary or interesting to know who killed me, like fog of war

[analog apex]

yes, ideally should be banned by the devs

[sturdy quarry]

personally i liked the quiet time with black screen, little change but made it feel like death has more impact / reflect on the horrors of war

seeing "killed by giantasstitties68" take me out of it

[analog apex]

because it were not the HLL devs that provided the server owners with the wkm command. It were the C-rcon devs.

[elder dune]

The people complaining are probably the people who dont use !wkm.

Main thing: that command is optional, the screen is not.

Everybody that doesn’t want that info is getting it forced upon them

[sturdy quarry]

yeh i dont WKM

[faint portal]

100% understood
Although I agree, I still think that it's weird that you still want it to be a choice?
Either have it or dont b/c other people will "choose" to see more info than you

(my take btw is i dont like that or !wkm )

[faint portal]

EVERYONE uses it constantly. Chat is filled with it

[fleet jacinth]

Then let them choose to see more info than me?

[sturdy quarry]

yeh but i choose not too, so i want to choose the. old screen

i could put the tape on the screen i guess

[fleet jacinth]

That's not true at all though, I rarely see it on the servers I play on, and if I do, it's not that often.

[analog apex]

there is a thin line between a game being reasonaly customizable and the other thing - the same problem wit hthe ADS FOV slider, it's already on the unreasonable side in terms of HLL direction

[faint portal]

I think that's fair.

So what I'm getting from this is

1. ppl are indifferent about the screen
2. ppl do not like the info provided
3. some people like the option of a "toggle" for the info

[sturdy quarry]

my ideal would be toggle info on and off

then black screen if blown up / headshot

current blur background screen if bodyshot / bleed out

but understand having options like that not worth the dev time

[obtuse dragon]

Love dying and seeing my enemy teabag me on the new death screen

[faint portal]

understood

I think that's a good balance of what I'm seeing in the dialogue above

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-teabag-gif-23630348

[sturdy quarry]

yeh the teabag and you notice so many more glitches / grass flicker etc that take me out of it - watch the buggy animations etc whereas used to be hidden by black 😆

[ebon torrent]

the biggest issue is the fufcked up tanks in my opinion

[gentle lintel]

this feels NSFW

[sturdy quarry]

yeh the screen isnt that important, not hotfix

just something to consider later

[ebon torrent]

yeah

[faint portal]

hehe i think it's from some cartoon from youtube so if it's elligible for ads it should be ok haha

[ebon torrent]

game isnt really crashing for my site either

but I understand the frustration of the ones who crash

[obtuse dragon]

You'll probably get 1 or 2 crashes, But some players are getting them constantly

[ebon torrent]

I got one since patch and played every day

[faint portal]

crashing is biggest issue, second is arty, third is tanks

[analog apex]

honestly... if I had just 1 vote and if I was to decide which one to keep - ADS FOV slider or new deathscreen, I would probably keep the deathscreen and get rid of the slider. No matter how I dislike the deathscreen, it doesn't do permanent realtime damage unlike the ADS FOV slider that allows 60.

[obtuse dragon]

Literally me

[obtuse dragon]

Second Should be tanks 😔

[ebon torrent]

arty is too strong yeah but tanks are unplayable

[obtuse dragon]

The ADS slider Should have a Max of 80 🤓

[faint portal]

As much as i play tanks, arty makes the game unplayable b/c they can whipe three garries out at a time

some tanks can be driven around and used. All garrys are not safe every 5 minutes

[analog apex]

more like it should have the minimum of the normal FOV value

[haughty geode]

Just fix the game and make HLL more like HLL should be. Even if they have to delay new updates

[ebon torrent]

what you guys think about the durabillity buff from tanks? I liked that they buffed it, but its so hard to destroy them rn 😄

[obtuse dragon]

I Kinda liked it, it made me notice how good the AT rifles are

[analog apex]

and without tankKill assists for the tanks/ATs it's even more frustrating that nobody else gets the points/XP, except for the one guy that dealt the final blow tho the vehicle - effort not rewarded by the game. Should reward every damage to the enemy vehicle realTime, and not just the oneTime destruction.

[ebon torrent]

but u need 3 shots for a medium, so you have to cooperate with team, and we all know how public looks like

[faint portal]

I think that's fine
They should have never been able to be kiled by one person given the amount of AT options

more mechanics should be moved into a way where it promotes more cross functional tactics

I.e. AT needs supply guys to drop heavy ammo to kill a tank but one guy can still knkock engine etc

[ebon torrent]

true but it feels like HLL has this not as higher priority idk..

[analog apex]

yep, it should though

[worthy charm]

Mediums are a bit stronger, for heavys its not that big of a diffrence.

[ebon torrent]

idk people have to start play together in public games.. Im in competetive game and its not that much better either here in playing together to build paks etc xd

[analog apex]

I.e. AT needs supply guys to drop heavy ammo to kill a tank but one guy can still knkock engine etc
Even with the box, when needing 4 rockets, there is always a chance there will be some stupid unrealistic bounce or hitreg problem, resulting in needed even 5-6 rockets. And that's a problem.

[grizzled kiln]

Not been playing much since the broken update, but we usually die to satchels anyway. So the AT rockets are mostly irrelevant

[ebon torrent]

at useless in my opinion

[analog apex]

rocket launchers definitelly, except against the scout cars and halftracks

[faint portal]

agreed, i think consistency should be improved

although i will say repairing is FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR slower so component dmg is far more important now

AT rifles are pain on tracks

[analog apex]

satchels are now the only reliable way to kill a tank as infantry

[ebon torrent]

I think a tank can even hold like 5 at shots if you hit it by other angle, bcs of the plate system update with tower side engine right?

[analog apex]

AT rifles are pain on tracks
track destroyed however don't immobilise the tank... another stupidity

tank just goes behind the corner and repairs

no matter the time

[grizzled kiln]

Yeah but you only have first gear.

[worthy charm]

Not really

[ebon torrent]

good point, I think they should reward hitting tracks more would be a good change*

[analog apex]

again, not preventing them from getting to cover and repair

[worthy charm]

also that really not true for half the tanks

[grizzled kiln]

If you are even close to inf and have lost the gears, you are effed. Unless the inf are complete noobs

[grizzled kiln]

Repairs take ages now. Much longer time to rep

[faint portal]

mine damage is 600 and AT rocket damage is 330

[analog apex]

it won't matter for the AT rifle guy - he is usually far enough and so the tank is far enough to have the time for repairs even with the current repair pace

[worthy charm]

= if your aim is bad :}

[analog apex]

and the rocketeer will be out of rockets

so the result is the same = the tank will get repaired, no matter if tracks destroyed or not

as long as the tank was not in the open without possibility of cover ofc

[grizzled kiln]

Not with this increased rep time if you are anywhere near inf

[wind shore]

@lost pulsar Would you make optional this Wi-Fi sign on the corner of the screen. It’s annoying or make it optional, if you will play server of not your region, you would always see this

[analog apex]

oh but yes, even with that

[grizzled kiln]

whatever dude.do you even play tanks ? does not seem like it

[analog apex]

occasionally

ofc... you won't repair it fast without whole crew doing the repairs - which is good imo.

[grizzled kiln]

let me repeat then. if you are anywhere near evemy inf and have lost the gears, you are cooked. You will have a satchel on you in no time. and forget about reps when it takes 2x as long and you will be picked off when trying to rep

[analog apex]

Slower repairs encourage having a full crew. You want faster repairs, have a full crew. Then it's not that slow.

[lost pulsar]

@analog apex Original Pavlov building was not fit for purpose, nor could it be easily fixed - and was actually the cause of a lot of performance issues. They'd like to take a look at the original asset at some point to see what can be done with it. But that's the reason for the adjustment

[analog apex]

well, Stalingrad stutters even after U18 and even more than before, so if the devs returned the old Pavlov's house, I would likely not even notice it (performance wise).

[sturdy quarry]

yeah it stutters the same...

[lost pulsar]

I've shared this, but need more data - hopefully can gather more after the hotfix

[grizzled kiln]

Did you even look at the thread we had in here pointing out why the game is struggling ? Poly counts were through the roof

[analog apex]

one thing's for sure - the Pavlov's house model needs to return. No matter if next week or next month, but it needs to return.

because what we have now, is not the Pavlov's house - it's a ruin of it and it's supposed to be whole, historically-wise

[sturdy quarry]

ok thanks for replying greg, better than the radio silence

it will feel like radio silence to anyone not following this discord tho

[dim snow]

So when is this hotfix releasing? This week?

[analog apex]

👍 when there is a communication, even the bad things don't feel that bad... one has a feeling something is being / will be done

[wind shore]

. Probably never

[sturdy quarry]

half the time i just think the bug report threads need a "noted by dev team" icon

[lost pulsar]

Yes, planned for this week. God help me if it doesn't

[analog apex]

true that 😄
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[sturdy quarry]

dont even need to reply to each thread

[grizzled kiln]

Not been proper communication since left tho. RIP

[grizzled kiln]

Time to go on vacay with the others 🌴 jk

[analog apex]

but the bright side of it is... it's gonna be Ben's problem once he's back 😄

[heady hornet]

As others have said, that info is optional. For me the biggest problem comes during comp. matches. On comp. matches there is no !wkm. Now you also get info you are not supposed to have.

Somebody who is permanently SL kills you. You get his name and now know that he will try and place an OP there. So you react differently as if somebody, you know who only plays inf kills you or somebody who only plays tanks kills you as inf player -> one less tank on the map. etc etc.

[wind shore]

Greg, would you do something with this Wi Fi icon in the corner of the screen? Or keep it optional, cause if connection is not stable or another region - it would always flashing on screen and gets annoyning

You know Ben just dreading on coming back

[sturdy quarry]

that feeling when ya back to work after time off is bad enough without knowing its a fire to come back to

[wind shore]

Especially with pissed off people

[sturdy quarry]

yep try to frame it as if people get this annoyed then it means the game is important to them

[grizzled kiln]

Pro tip, don't release untested software and there won't be a fire to begin with.

[wind shore]

How are the comp teams handling this?

[grizzled kiln]

By not playing !

[analog apex]

I heard some comp games/events were cancelled - the crashes and disconnects happen just way too often since U18.

[cosmic pilot]

Who cares

[grizzled kiln]

How could you play comp when the servers reandomly crash anyway

[raw flame]

ben is useless anyway, just provides updates on the fact hes got no updates, no actual influence on the direction of any update

[grizzled kiln]

Some = all

[cedar ore]

Leave my boy Ben alone he’s a real one

[grizzled kiln]

Bring back

[raw flame]

simping for cms

[cedar ore]

Literally had no problems with the update

I like the new tank updates

games playing well, the new artillery call in hasn’t really been a problem, it’s pretty easy to avoid tbh

[analog apex]

Ben has been doing great so far. Greg today as well. Didn't expect anything else from T17, but radio silence till Ben's return. So today is a positive surprise.

And ofc. CM has no real influence on the development. He just conveys information for the most part.

[cedar ore]

HLL players try not to nitpick the smallest issues challenge

[cosmic pilot]

Impossible

[cedar ore]

Literally

[worthy charm]

I think no one would ever be like this.

[sturdy quarry]

yep but doubt it was ben or gregs decision...

[cedar ore]

I just don’t understand what people have been having issues with

Like it’s been a pretty solid update

[analog apex]

yup, a CM just has to provide us with information about the update (and to provide the devs with the feedback from us), but the timeframes and executive decisions lie in the hands of the others above

[grizzled kiln]

it wasn't

[wind shore]

Agree it’s good update

[sturdy quarry]

crashing for lots of people

the update was mainly about tanks, yet broke tanks

the secondary point was to fix stalingrad, it still stutters

then untested arty changes, unasked for death screen

[cedar ore]

The only tank I’ve seen have issues is the panther bro

[grizzled kiln]

Didn't you hear ? Callum doesn't have issues. So there aren't any.

[cedar ore]

EXACTLYYY

[grizzled kiln]

🤨

[wind shore]

I’m not a fan of clans but they are the only thing holding this game together with out them people would have lost intrest already and dipped

[analog apex]

clients and even servers are crashing all the time or disconnecting... since U18

[cedar ore]

weird

[grizzled kiln]

See how long you'd like to play on official servers

[analog apex]

also there is problem with undrivable tanks that get stuck on everything, especially on the overhauled Stalingrad

[cosmic pilot]

The idea that they're the only thing holding the game together when 90% of the playerbase are blissfully unaware of their doings is laughable at best

[cedar ore]

I’d only seen it with the panther, what other tanks are having problems

[analog apex]

it's not much about specific tanks, it's more about tanks in general vs some assets or ground

[grizzled kiln]

Panther is the worst. But they even managed to mess up the perfect tank ie Tiger

[worthy charm]

I had only 2 disconnects and few tank issues myself as well

[cedar ore]

Ohhh, on all maps or just Stalingrad

[worthy charm]

couldnt complain honsestly

[cedar ore]

Cause stalingrad definitely had some collision issues

[analog apex]

supposedly even on a flat ground

Tiger in its natural HLL operational state 😄
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1427749751146938439/1427749754527416380/e62bcc86-58fc-4246-b0c7-f1473f291412.png?ex=68efff13&is=68eead93&hm=acd2bdba3458d2d191d79e2a933fc14fc1ddc5f14d021341cced89b9b6d57bcc&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=2880&height=1620

[cedar ore]

I’ve not disconnected from what I remember, tanks from what I’ve played (mostly American I think) have been ok

[cedar ore]

PFFF

[worthy charm]

Skill issue

:}

[cedar ore]

I mean at that point blame the driver

[analog apex]

or here https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1425093824446992477/1426181642719985744/image.png?ex=68f0e228&is=68ef90a8&hm=fec10cbca3450901df2d87d2fca639554803b1eb83e98276ecc7bb0e691d6290&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=2768&height=1436

[cedar ore]

I love that the turret has no collisions so just goes straight through the ground lol

[grizzled kiln]

Lots of obstacles around obv..Nooot

[cedar ore]

They should add the ability to flip the tank back over like PS

[analog apex]

it's not just this, it's also being able to drive into assets and the tank can't get out

I have seen some Puma image somewhere, that got stuck with its front wheels - the wheels got into the ground, wasn't possible to move the Puma at all afterwards, it got glued

[cedar ore]

Wh-

Stuck in the mud 💔

[analog apex]

nah, on the solid road 😄

[cedar ore]

😭😭😭

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/malphite-mad-rock-solid-rock-mad-angry-malphite-league-of-legends-gif-4105569320392495841

[analog apex]

that's why so many peeps yelled for a revert

the update was just totally wrong to release in that state

[cedar ore]

there will be bug fixes it’ll be fineeee

[worthy charm]

Wasnt worse than U14 imo

[analog apex]

that's what we fear of - usually bugfixes break other stuffs 😄

but yeah expecting it eagerly at the same time because the state is unplayable either way right now

[cedar ore]

I’ve played games worse

[elder dune]

Commander arty unlocked Katusha achievements, so its a Katusha rework I guess? and even the projectiles are rockets instead of shells I heard. So that feels sloppy...
(and it killing barricades and garrys is not good)

[cedar ore]

ghosts of tabor

[analog apex]

that's not an excuse though

[wind shore]

And about U19 PTE @lost pulsar Do you know when it would be? Or would be at all?

Maybe this week or next week

[cedar ore]

Can’t stop me glazing HLL bro lets be real

[cedar ore]

Being able to destroy barricades and garris I agree with, I think they should’ve probably just waited to release it with the rest of the artillery rework

Probably would’ve made more sense and wouldn’t be hated as much that way

[elder dune]

Yes, exactly. It only raises questions because also people dont understand that the other artillery is still around ('Why 2 arty options')

[cosmic pilot]

Welcome to the only 5 people know this club 🤝

[cedar ore]

I can’t wait for the new tanks

What are they called

[elder dune]

But hey, I love the fact I can now pick up my dropped supplies 🙂

[cedar ore]

W feature tbf

And other than the small collision issues, Stalingrad rework is pretty solid

[fleet jacinth]

The crashes are probably caused by some real weird thing, similar to the "dismembered body parts colliding" issue they had before. Took ages to fix as it was (understandably) very hard to track down.

[analog apex]

he mentioned this week I believe

somewhere above

[analog apex]

oh here ☝️

[lavish kernel]

Sooooo about that hotfix….

[sturdy quarry]

if by solid you mean the intention was to fix performance issues, and they didn't. then yes

[wind shore]

U19 PTE?

[potent burrow]

Anyone know why the first server i load into when booting the game always loses connection but the second one is fine?

[sturdy quarry]

we want them to stop rushing broken stuff. U19 2026

[sturdy quarry]

iv had that and heard others the same, for some people loading into practice range first helps in that at least you arent in server queue twice

[potent burrow]

ill try that ty

[sturdy quarry]

that may have been first server crashes to desktop rather than first disconnects but worth a go

[finite berry]

Still don't understand why that's not a thing yet

[silk folio]

Fix carentan

Why is my tank getting stuck in a stream

[analog apex]

ah right, I missed PTE word

I meant the hotfix

my bad

[analog apex]

"rushing" ... that word can't be applicable though... for 2 updates a year

[sturdy quarry]

did you apply the DD skin to the sherman before you went in the water?

[silk folio]

The what?

I’ve got stuck with panthers and pz4

[wind shore]

Hotfix on the brain 😅😂

[broken shoal]

reddit are so eager to defend that one week later we still dont have a hotfix lmao

"lost connection to host" is my daily bread

[grizzled kiln]

Yet another thing S44 did correct wrt tanks. HLL should also have a tank deck and just get rid of the stupid node system altogether tbh

[cedar ore]

I don’t trust HLL players enough for that

They’d EAT through the tanks

[grizzled kiln]

I don't play pub much, so would be fine by me

[cedar ore]

That’s all I play

[grizzled kiln]

You could limit it to only allow full crews to get a tank

[finite berry]

People on their way to call HLL bad because the tank deck is now finite 🫠

[grizzled kiln]

and get rid of the solo tankers

[cedar ore]

REAL

[grizzled kiln]

No doubt.

[finite berry]

They'll also complain

"why do you enforce that 😠 i just wanna play the game"

[cedar ore]

grrrr but I want to eat through the commanders fuel!!!

[potent burrow]

if i see another solo tanker in a medium or heavy im gonna explode

[finite berry]

Honestly, I just wanna say "shut up and go play Battlefield" to such people, but unfortunately T17 won't see it like we do

[cedar ore]

possibly one of the worst feelings

[finite berry]

Better explode his vehicle

[potent burrow]

will do

[cedar ore]

no point, they usually don’t have mics anyway

[grizzled kiln]

Just make it so the engine won't turn on unless you have a full crew. Easy solution

[finite berry]

Not telling literally, it was just a way to say that I think that such players should just go play something else instead of ruining the experience for HLL players due to refusing to play as a team

[potent burrow]

the practice range loads fine but an actual server still loses connection. weird

[cedar ore]

Yeah fr

[sturdy quarry]

ah sorry,. must have been a workaround for those that crash to desktop rather than disconnect message

[potent burrow]

yeah ill try figure it out

[sturdy quarry]

maybe join empty server first

[potent burrow]

been having the issue on and off for abt a year now

[sturdy quarry]

to skip double queue at least

[potent burrow]

yeah good idea

[finite berry]

First and easiest way to counter solo-tankers is having server owners kick solo tankers

So one could start there

[grizzled kiln]

Not sure if the rcon can do that

I know it can kick if you take the panther ( not allowed in some comp leagues)

[sturdy quarry]

one of my mates it would only happen on certain servers, e. g. took two attemps to join circle servers but some others seemed fine.

couldnt work out the pattern

[potent burrow]

maybe thats what it is ive been joining circle servers

[cyan saddle]

It kicks you if you make a kill with it

[cold kiln]

Looks like T17 is radio silent again today

[cyan saddle]

RCON can see who are in a squad together and it can infer what squad type it is by looking at its members' roles

But that's about as far as that goes

[worthy charm]

lol

[grizzled kiln]

good point..would be easier to just have the game not allow solo tankers then

[worthy charm]

Maybe read the chat a bit

[wind shore]

When is new PTE, developer Willes?

[cyan saddle]

Not everyone's gonna sift through all your yappings Willes

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/911-show-eddie-diaz-thats-actually-good-advice-good-advice-good-tips-gif-15705790927161596760

[worthy charm]

Its gets delayed by a month everytime you ask

[nova pivot]

Tomorrow

[wind shore]

You are the dev, you are responsible for delivering it in timing

[nova pivot]

He is delivering it tomorrow

[wind shore]

Add Sparta the Floppa skin in it

[nova pivot]

Calm down, we're not going to skin anyone.

[dim snow]

This guy has a strange obsessed with update 19

Obsession*

[finite berry]

Not automatically, but if people see a solotanker, they could report it to a mod who then takes action. Or the mod sees it by himself and takes action. Dunno how it works in HLL, but that's how we do it in Squad 44 on our server.

[finite berry]

It's just Kedo, simply ignore him

[cyan saddle]

HLL tends to be a little less actively moderated

[finite berry]

pain is eternal :I

[cyan saddle]

The norm isn't to always have an admin on the server

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/911-show-eddie-diaz-thats-actually-good-advice-good-advice-good-tips-gif-15705790927161596760

[finite berry]

But you could ping one?

[cyan saddle]

Yes

[nova pivot]

Do these scam things actually work?

[cosmic pilot]

I hate it when people take pictures of their monitor with their phone

[nova pivot]

Do people fall for them?

[grizzled kiln]

So when is the next armored event in S44 @finite berry ?? if any..been a while since I played

[cosmic pilot]

Thank mods for removing this specific thing that offends me

[finite berry]

Then people could do it that way? Like that, you could do at least something against solotankers

[worthy charm]

Im responsible for banning you if you dont stop trolling. :}

[cyan saddle]

People do. Majority of players simply doesn't care (enough) though.

[cosmic pilot]

Pwease don't 🥺

[finite berry]

I have no idea; I'm also barely playing tanks, so I'm not really invested 😅 but in case there is one, I can let you know

[cyan saddle]

• Up until U18 there wasn't really any way to disband a squad

[finite berry]

Please do

[cosmic pilot]

Kedo is harmless

I don't know get why everyone is annoyed at him

Be annoyed at muph for goodness sake

Or that guy abu

[worthy charm]

That guy is the worst

[nova pivot]

Do it

[nova pivot]

Ban him too

[cyan saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/hahahaha-no-laughing-seriously-i-dont-think-so-gif-26207681

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/execution-gif-24034353

I demand Public executions

[civic dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/searching-songebob-patch-verux-gif-20909912

[harsh heron]

PTE, I just want a patch...

[wind shore]

I want PTE

[harsh heron]

Pointless Testing Events

[wind shore]

Just cause it’s almost November

[broken shoal]

dont care if smolensk is in december, they need to fix this asap

[wind shore]

I think it would be right if it would release in December, they definitely needs time

[broken shoal]

PTE is pointless if they deliver a messof a patch like 18 lol

[midnight salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-for-help-waiting-skeleton-gif-16371559341767062897

[harsh heron]

It's almost 6 years and the game still needs Fixing, so...

[wind shore]

They need time of course

[midnight salmon]

when fix available for crashes and stutters?

[broken shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/these-things-they-take-time-gif-14300248

[midnight salmon]

the longer it takes the more people switch to bf6

[broken shoal]

i dont think people are switching, just giving up lmao

[finite berry]

Incorrect.

[finite berry]

Exactly. Bf6's influence on this is so overrated

[harsh heron]

It seems they are fiddling with it without telling us. Our server held up yesterday

[midnight salmon]

lmao true

[finite berry]

People are not switching, they are simply giving up, and that's more like the exception that proves the rule that people still return to HLL at the end of the day

[harsh heron]

Totally agree

[broken shoal]

even with how arcade HLL is, in the end is a game of communication and strat. BF6 is nothing like that, BF is PEW PEW PEW POW POW POW.

[harsh heron]

HLL Stockholm Syndrome

[finite berry]

First and foremost, Bf6 is a completely different setting - it is NOT WW2.

[broken shoal]

battlefield v isnt like HLL at all.

[finite berry]

What?

I didn't say anything like that

[broken shoal]

yeah just mentioning the battlfield that is set in WW2 to make a more accuracy comparison tbh

[finite berry]

What???

[grizzled kiln]

Yeah people aren't going to start playing BF V either 😄

BF is pretty far from HLL in every way possible.

[finite berry]

People are saying "ombg HLL is losing players to Bf6" and I'm saying that's bs because 1. 99% of them are not switching long-term and 2. Bf6 is a different setting compared to HLL, so why would it (long-term) steal HLL's players

It just doesn't add up at all

[broken shoal]

this

[finite berry]

Eh, I'd say that HLL is pretty close to Bf but with OHK, shallow tank and logistic mechanics and a watered down squad system

[toxic shuttle]

The release of BF6 being at the same time as the release of the worst patch HLL has ever seen, has moved some of the core HLL playerbase over the BF6. On the Glow servers, there are new BF6-oriented channels, and there are two official Glow BF6 servers. And lots of the members there are playing BF6 now. Will it be permanent? I dunno, but to deny that it's possible is just wrong.

[broken shoal]

i think you are mixing things. Never i said HLL is losing players to BF6 because those are completely separate games. And is not about the setting, no HLL player is switching to BFV neither.

lmao glow servers are the worst.

[finite berry]

Yes, so? Glow is hosting servers for God knows how many different games, it's not like that's a catastrophe or shows that players are leaving HLL en masse

Bf6 has been massively (over)hyped and now everyone is eager to try and play it. Give it some weeks or months in some cases and the hype will die down again.

[toxic shuttle]

Only HLL and BF6 actually 🤷

[harsh heron]

It was not a Patch, it was close to an overhaul. Messy, but still

[grizzled kiln]

Not even close.

[finite berry]

Not YOU said that, but other people said it. And those statements are the ones I'm referring to

[finite berry]

I know that they hosted servers for Squad 44 at some point, so I assumed they have servers for other games as well, like Squad, Arma Reforger, Battlebit etc

[broken shoal]

HLL players are not the market of BF6 lol

[toxic shuttle]

They did S44 for a few weeks but it fizzled out.

[broken shoal]

cod players are the market of bf6

[finite berry]

Looking at the toggable skins and the dragging mechanic, allow me to doubt

[grizzled kiln]

That would be more likely, yes. Not that people in HLL don't play as if it was BF sometimes though

[frigid bobcat]

Im on HLL rn, Jeticon. Holler if ya see me

[wind shore]

Women in BF6 is not realistic

I never played their games cause I didn’t liked them, only COD

[thin lotus]

hll players thinking that it is on any level of competition with bf lol.

[wind shore]

I never played it

[thin lotus]

Bf, “I don’t think about you at all”

[wind shore]

Except BF5

[dusty bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1354124374097264690/1427662122975756359/R1jZOK.gif

[wind shore]

Nyam

Hunger or appetite in chat

[rare finch]

Does anyone else on Xbox keep crashing? Like everytime I load up hell let loose in a lobby with more then like 50 players my game just crashes

Never used to do this before the new update

[supple cedar]

“We will share details early next week”

It’s Wednesday and no update?

[dense jewel]

Was The M4 Sherman Tank Really A DEATH TRAP?
https://youtu.be/Y1psojipjE0

[analog apex]

I personally do not fear BF. I fear just the BF players that come here and spread/suggest the ideas or features they got used to in BF (or its pace), trying to get HLL a bit closer to them, while taking HLL further away from what HLL has always strived to be.

[faint portal]

I like this added perspective
I wasn't aware of that but it makes sense
Again, if you have a "toggle" comp is obviously going just have that function on bc why would you not and there's no way to prove if someone were to have it on/off

But I agree it's too much info

[wind shore]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HellLetLoose/s/NtIwqxhOp8

[covert elbow]

No

Early on in the Africa campaign it did suffer quite a lot from cook off’s and wasn’t as safe but a lot of these flaws were quickly solved to make the Sherman one of the safest and most survivable tanks of the war

[thin lotus]

players who are interested in bf are not going to shift into playing hll. That’s just cope from hll players who don’t realize that the stupid players they see on hll are just that…stupid hll players. But of course it’s always “other game’s” fault for stupidity because hll is widely known for containing only the smartest and most capable of fps players known to man

[analog apex]

And yet they come here.

[steady vessel]

Update is they're lookin at Friday for hotfix release per qonzer discord.

BUT that's not set in stone. They "have testing" to do for a solid date.

[thin lotus]

Don’t call it a hotfix

[covert elbow]

What a world we live in when they test the hotfix but not the update

[steady vessel]

Semantics don't really matter lol

[grizzled kiln]

Testing ?? wow..What a novel concept 😮

[coral gate]

@past veldt spool HCA chat

[past veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1320450047002939428/1337907623307251823/attachment.gif

[analog apex]

reminds me of the old gamemode

although this specific/capState setup wasn't possible even there

[past veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1303297725059567709/1359109967310880808/attachment.gif

[azure heath]

we should start a riot

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-the-last-airbender-nickelodeon-avatar-the-last-airbender-atla-gif-5850196424009839938

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-fire-elmo-anarchy-blues-gif-25903479

[wind shore]

Add them please. ( new content )

No hot fixes

It’s not hot fixing ! New content we are fine

[azure heath]

Yeah.. We need Smolensk over fixing the game.

I wonder if they’ve realized that their tank system is unfixable yet.

[wind shore]

The death screen would stay anyways, ( as it seems now ). So let’s move on

#mess-hall message

No optional mode for those interface

[azure heath]

Yep. Screw everyone who plays this game. Let’s give them nothing they want.

[finite berry]

Why does this guy always have such bad luck when thinking

[wind shore]

New death screen is ok, but option wkm could be optional as normal user interface. And this Wi-Fi icon would always be on the screen then, if we would play on different regions where is high pink

[broken shoal]

cod and battlefield players are the only ones who call HLL a "running simulator"

[azure heath]

Me?

[finite berry]

Obviously not

[azure heath]

Huh?

Was there another guy that delete his messages or something?

[civic dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/holiday-vacation-summer-vibes-beach-gif-8243531048828447069

[glossy heath]

Still waiting on you to make the game playable again. It's WEDNESDAY. Game has been basically unplayable for 2 weeks. Do something.

[past vortex]

they are probably not even aware of the mem leak :}

[wind shore]

Do you play HLL on steam or console

[past vortex]

neighter :}

but pc

[wind shore]

For me HLL devs doing well

They did Tobruk, Stalingrad refresh, and SPA and Smolensk incoming

[past vortex]

sure, kedo

[wind shore]

So they do almost everything good quality updates

[civic dawn]

Hey relax bro!
Our metric is a peak of 999 players.

Everything is going according to plan!

[finite berry]

that's right

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-trump's-inauguration-gif-9642253815501152224

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-wednesday-wednesday-my-dudes-gif-13951537

[past vortex]

massive frösche überall

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/susanne-daubner-daubner-jugendwort-jugendwort2021-tagesschau-gif-26863952

[glossy heath]

I'm so relaxed I may release an update to my software without testing it then go on vacation

You are NOT as relaxed as me.

[worthy charm]

Ty my dude

[finite berry]

Honestly, the "omg they went on vacation" argument is as tiring as it is false. They book their vacation weeks if not months in advance, it simply was an unfortunate coincidence that it fell in line with this disastrous update