#mess-hall

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covert elbow
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This game sold 2 million copies?

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He is. Just ignore him

wind shore
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No, it’s just my honest opinion, I like the new update and updates, news about HLL, and HLL

cosmic pilot
echo karma
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It's sold alot. Plus 2mill kinda low in contrast to other games. But great for an indy dev

covert elbow
wind shore
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😅

covert elbow
nova pivot
cosmic pilot
covert elbow
wind shore
covert elbow
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cosmic pilot
dim snow
echo karma
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Deez

wind shore
echo karma
covert elbow
echo karma
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And what we've got 3 maps in 4 yrs?

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4

wind shore
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4 maps

covert elbow
wind shore
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Tobruk, Mortain, Elsenborn ridge

dim snow
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And only about 2 of them playable

echo karma
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Driel, Amanda, snow, desert

worthy charm
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Omg

covert elbow
wind shore
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Who is here to judge T17? I guess nobody

covert elbow
cosmic pilot
covert elbow
echo karma
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1 faction. No new guns, tanks. Nothing crazy yet. Period specific changes yet

wind shore
cosmic pilot
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Ehhhhh, mortain and elsenbourn are eermmh

covert elbow
worthy charm
past vortex
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i mean who even wantsw anything new when they yet have to fix the scoreboard

echo karma
covert elbow
wind shore
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I like new maps, all of them, Elsenborn, Mortain, Tobruk

broken shoal
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One week without hotfix is fokin crazy m8. What is going on with this company. My friends are uninstalling

echo karma
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There's a reason ppl only play smdm

cosmic pilot
covert elbow
echo karma
broken shoal
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Lst patch they did it in like 3 days. One is a week

covert elbow
broken shoal
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Fatal error after fatal error when people play

covert elbow
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El Al absolutely needed an update

cosmic pilot
echo karma
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It was pak40 cancer lmao

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Back when pak couldn't die either

covert elbow
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????

wind shore
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If you would critique too much game, I would send you in Siberia guys

covert elbow
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When was that?

wind shore
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And you would work in infinite cold

echo karma
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Pak guns were bugged for like 6 months. Couldn't die to anything except a satchel?

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That was iffy too

covert elbow
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Yea, the crew would get mashed but the gun was fine

echo karma
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And they delete all too cuz the did stupid damage. 2 pak delete a heavy insta

covert elbow
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A needed buff tbh

covert elbow
echo karma
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They've since nerfed them into water gun shooters so

dim snow
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I bet they release a US v GER after the Smolensk map

wind shore
echo karma
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Yall have a blessed day today.

covert elbow
wind shore
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Found Ben B

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He actually playing it’s game

covert elbow
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I think Juno is in the cards since the devs confirmed they looked into it but put it on indefinite hiatus

covert elbow
finite berry
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Rip 🫂

covert elbow
wind shore
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Just do it like Nike says

finite berry
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YES :D

wind shore
grizzled kiln
analog apex
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trust him... he is the kedo who allegedly said he is a man in his twenties and then that he is 10 years old. So he must be telling the truth! 😄

grizzled kiln
velvet bough
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any expirenced tank crews need 1?

dim snow
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People keep saying juno beach, but that’ll be a Canadian map

covert elbow
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But also just random chittering from the devs and players

covert elbow
dim snow
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I’d rather they add Caen or Arnhem next

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Been asking for ages now

wind shore
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Caen HLLCommendation

dim snow
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That’ll be a belter of a map

covert elbow
wicked igloo
echo karma
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Berlin. Maybe tweak American and German guns again. I like the 1 shot hardcore aspect.

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9mm has like no stopping power. 45 mor so. But like rifle rounds would drop a mfer chest up. No body armour

analog apex
# dim snow I’d rather they add Caen or Arnhem next

I would fear Arnhem just can't work for as long as the devs fore 15 objectives into 15 squares on the map. The bridge and a lot of water just won't cut it. We would end up once more with one nonBridge strongpoint on one side of the river and the other nonBridge SP on the other side.

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Imo the river maps should be special and have just 13 objectives (the bridge as always the only midLine objective).

grizzled kiln
analog apex
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exactly

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or... another Driel where the river is passable on foot which is stupid

finite berry
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Can you walk through rivers in HLL? Oo

analog apex
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only through the one under the Driel bridge

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in Remagen, it's deep

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in Driel, it is shallow (basically impossible to drown anywhere there)

finite berry
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...how

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Like, it's a river, not just a puddle of water...

analog apex
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not according to the devs 😄

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we can run through it and drive through it too without any harm

finite berry
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Sorry, but that's bs

analog apex
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it is

finite berry
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That's not a river, that's a sad and wet fart of a joke

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If you can run and drive through a river, you might just remove it altogether

analog apex
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I wish the devs seen it that way. First we expected there would be just a narrow passageways through the water on the flanks (by going over some stuck ships), but in the end there is no any part of the river where it would be deep.

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A bridge map where the bridge doesn't rly matter.

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On the other hand Remagen bridge is just an intense meatrinder, as without any limitation to respawns or ammo, the peeps just keep bashing into each other headlessly.

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...until another stupid thing, an airhead, gets called.

dusty bolt
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Are the devs still on vacation ?

fringe hollow
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They need a break from all this negativity and the hard work they put into the game for sure double it rq

worthy charm
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Maybe

rare finch
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Why are xbox lobbies so deaddd

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All I can find are 50 player desert maps

nova pivot
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The official ones are bs

finite berry
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You will die 500 times on Remagen bridge and you will like it

finite berry
rare finch
finite berry
rare finch
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I wouldn’t be complaining if it wasn’t true

thin lotus
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s44 brain

finite berry
analog apex
grizzled kiln
wind shore
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Now you are replacing them, Herr, where is hotfix?

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He is responsible for new updates

cedar shuttle
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Hotfix is gonna release next year with vientam, trust

finite berry
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Vietnam is the hotfix

azure flower
thin lotus
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this team's fixes aren't hot by any means

wind shore
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@fluid pawn good evening, Ben! Any news today about U19 PTE or U19? Or this week

fringe hollow
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if we get any news on U19 before this mess if fixed, I'll do radical things with a super soaker

broken shoal
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hello one week already where is the fix

wind shore
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They doing hotfix, they were taking the information

fringe hollow
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I'm saying they should be fully focused on fixing U18 before continuing anything with U19.

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Even a PTE

wind shore
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The dev team is working on Hotfix and other things etc etc

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Ben could post photos and screenshots why not, it’s not big deal

fringe hollow
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A few screenshots makes sense. I saw PTE and assumed you wanted more. My apologies.

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They likely already have things for U19 so sure show us what there is but the focus should be U18 fixes and refixes if needed

dusty bolt
wind shore
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@oak current Das Altberg! Do you know when U19 screenshots be coming?

oak current
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When their internal team says its fine to post pictures for U19, like any other studio I'd assume.

wind shore
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Okay

wind shore
oak current
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I think they have more urgent things to do currently, than to start posting screenshots for U19. So I'm fine with waiting.

wind shore
oak current
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yes

worthy charm
oak current
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you'll be really mad

wind shore
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Where is my Rhinestones on MG-42

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😁😅

wind shore
worthy charm
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@nova pivot Dont type so long

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Did he got shot in the back of the head and now his head is stuck on his keyboard?

wind shore
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😅

nova pivot
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Sigma tiger
It breaks by itself
It can't be repaired so he risks it all on a life
Straight armour, Sloped armor is for the weak
Its weapon is a converted anti-aircraft gun.
It is unique and special

Beta T-34
Durable and resistant To be able to withstand the treatment that a Kazakh who cannot read and has 2 hours of training will give him
It can be easily repaired which means it is expected to be damaged.
Sloped armour, It's not strong enough to have it straight
It changes its main armament a lot, which shows that it is deficient and requires constant changes.
It is mass produced, generic and repetitive

wind shore
worthy charm
nova pivot
wind shore
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Sparta the sloppa

nova pivot
red stump
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does kajit have working update if i have coin?

wind shore
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#bringbackpavlousehouse

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Pavlov house should became back

frail heart
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The year is 2060, Update 55 has dropped. Servers still crashing since update 18.

fringe hollow
worthy charm
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Spaceships?

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and hopefully a battlepass by then?

pine timber
fringe hollow
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The Bell super weapon in U55

empty steppe
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turn this place into fortnite, its all we have left

worthy charm
empty steppe
fringe hollow
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I feel like as long as the camos are historically accurate and don't add anything extra like camo nets or additional details, why not add them?

dusty bolt
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@oak current where update

oak current
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Went out last week tuesday 👀

pine timber
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idc what anyone says but I fw the tank skins hope they add more :p

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keep it realistic of course

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but yeah some cosmetics to tank skins I absolutely dont mind

pine timber
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imagine a real battlepass for hell let loose

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lmaooo

fringe hollow
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I want my CS 3

pine timber
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nah because imagine theres like special animations they add for taking out a knife or like spinning the knife in circles lmaoo

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that would be something

fringe hollow
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special reloads or inspects, all paid for separately.

pine timber
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it usually does start here tho- once they add one things (tank skins) they may add something else 🤷

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seen it before with other games

worthy charm
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Fun fact, you can add the tank skins on winter/snow maps

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Driving a black P4 in the winter gives extra fashion score

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:}

gleaming stone
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Is anyone was going to buy a German camo jacket from ww2. Is there any particular website or shop to buy from?

dim snow
analog apex
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So... when will we get any news about U18? I suppose tomorrow, otherwise we could only hardly be able to call a Wednessday the "early" in a week as announced.

dim snow
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Cold fix releasing Wednesday 11am BST.

analog apex
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How do you know?

dim snow
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It was a joke lol.

analog apex
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Any announcement anywhere outside Discord and Steam I don't know about?

analog apex
dim snow
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As it won’t be a hotfix

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It’ll be a cold fix with issues still there 😂

analog apex
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And let us pray so it won't break even more stuffs xD .

dim snow
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Well for console it will.

analog apex
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for PC probably too... they can't break the tradition, can they?

dim snow
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It runs a lot better on PC though I bet

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Obviously I know you guys have so many different types of PC

analog apex
dim snow
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I suppose it only runs well if you have like 3-4 grand pc

analog apex
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micro (sometimes more like macro) stutters like hell, all the time

dim snow
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Tell me about it man ha

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Just want all the maps to run like the Normandy maps

leaden fiber
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its been nearly a week and the devs still won't roll this back

finite berry
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They won't roll it back, accept it already

wind shore
red totem
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It feels like Team17 developers actually really don't know what's causing crashes and server problems, otherwise they would release a hotfix pretty fast, without letting the game to slowly die.. And that thought itself is not giving me hope.

finite berry
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And the game is not dying, Jesus Christ

worthy charm
finite berry
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Or do they?

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I dunno, I just assumed that :D

red totem
wind shore
nova pivot
wind shore
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I think it’s enough info rn for first hotfix now they might be working on it

red totem
finite berry
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No.

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But that does not mean the game is dying

worthy charm
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as usual

worthy charm
red totem
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Well by the amount of my friends that deleted the game after the update... I can't say its as popular as ever mate

wind shore
finite berry
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Absolutely fair, but that does still not mean it's dying

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Sorry, but the word "dying" is so overused

worthy charm
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The irony

red totem
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We say the server is dying and no one bats an eye

finite berry
red totem
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we say game is dying and society....

wind shore
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Hotfix coming this or next week, it does not matter it’s hot fix

finite berry
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Because there is an itty-bitty tiny difference

leaden fiber
finite berry
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Yes, so?

leaden fiber
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this game's community is not dead yet, but its definitely dying out. it's been what, 5 years? It's natural

worthy charm
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Start of the year was free epic week so that should be taken into account

red totem
worthy charm
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Something many didnt like btw

leaden fiber
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but to argue that its NOT dying is kinda ridiculous

finite berry
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It's not at all ridiculous

wind shore
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Add HerrWilles face in HLL, now!

finite berry
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Like I said, "dying" is such an overused term

wind shore
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For Soviets or Germans

leaden fiber
worthy charm
red totem
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it's a term that is understandable by all non-natives and people that speak english so mate pls stop

wind shore
leaden fiber
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lol

wind shore
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I would buy it 100%

worthy charm
red totem
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it should go with some Panzerschokolade

worthy charm
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Idk, the highest chance we got that HLL ever dies is when HLLV comes along and is better...

leaden fiber
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all ppl have to do is look at the metrics. raw data doesn't lie

finite berry
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Yes, HLL will continue to lose players, but that does not mean that the game won't have active servers and players left

wind shore
fringe hollow
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Even if 'Nam is better, I like WW2 damn it, it's my war to hyperfocus on

finite berry
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same

gilded spade
worthy charm
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its gonna be bad either way or at least not very positive. Best thing would be if HLLV gets its own community, but idk how likely that is.

wind shore
finite berry
finite berry
gilded spade
leaden fiber
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imagine posting in a discord for a game you never played. totally normal behavior

gilded spade
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Don't argue with this guy honestly 😂

finite berry
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So forgive me, but I can merely smile tiredly with y'all crying that HLL is "dying" when it literally has thousands of players left and a player-potential also left in the thousands

leaden fiber
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dude just came in here to tut-tut everyone

wind shore
finite berry
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nah, I came here to have fun and talk about HLL :)

worthy charm
leaden fiber
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man my ignore list for this discord is so much longer than any other 'cord I am in. i guess it just added a new member!

finite berry
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God forbid, I know :D

finite berry
thin lotus
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1 player in game
"still not dead!"
☝️ 🤓

yikes

leaden fiber
finite berry
pulsar matrix
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I don't understand the obsession with "Is the game dying?" You see the same question multiple times a week, yet there are dozens of full servers at any time of day?

It's almost like a stock broker's view of a business: "It's not growing, so it's dying!"

wooden cloud
leaden fiber
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mods here should take out the trash once in a while

fringe hollow
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everyone else can say "ded game" but automod flags me lmao

finite berry
finite berry
leaden fiber
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what is there to lose? people would get mad and stop playing the game? we can't even play the game anyways! lol

wind shore
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Which HLL would be with out core game base like mrkedo? It wouldn’t exist at all

finite berry
nova pivot
finite berry
fringe hollow
finite berry
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^^

wind shore
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Core game base - mrkedo

leaden fiber
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lmao

nova pivot
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Just what the convo needed

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Thank you hacked person

amber idol
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Where hot fix

fringe hollow
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volcano, go chase it

gilded spade
pulsar matrix
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Anyway, by the logic of "if it's not growing, it's dying" almost every game is dying a week after launch 🙃

fringe hollow
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I was about to type that before the sudden hacked man

meager timber
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yeah the game is dying in the same way i am, slowly

fringe hollow
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It's a stupid logic that people can "technically" around all the time

thin lotus
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dead, dying, w/e
HLLV will not increase HLL1s players, it can only go lower.
HLL has always had player retention problems. It's not unusual to question how much longer it can go. You can see significant player drop offs every month, it's all on steamcharts

pulsar matrix
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I do have a hope we might see HLL & HLL:V share a front-end so players can move back and forth with ease though

fringe hollow
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My hope is 'Nam gets popular, people start pouring in from there to WW2 and we grow again

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but doubtful

analog apex
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HLL currently:

  • 5,703 total players
    • 3,794 steam players (66.53%)
    • 1,450 non-steam players (25.43%)
    • 462 unknown platform (8.10%)

496 on official servers (8.70%)
4,744 on community servers (83.18%)
1 on pte/dev/qa servers (0.02%)
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-# Source: https://mattw.io/hll-server-browser/

worthy charm
pulsar matrix
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Is it a desire to somehow "maximize fun" by only ever being ahead of the crowd on a "new" game? (Also a very stock broker mindset)

worthy charm
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Its not kind nor nice

finite berry
analog apex
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definitelly 😄

finite berry
analog apex
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all those peeps came just for the funeral

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but I don't have the video ready yet 😄

finite berry
worthy charm
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not worth discussing this at all

finite berry
finite berry
analog apex
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yep I noticed that too hehe

gilded spade
fringe hollow
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it's the one guy who recently downloaded the game but it downloaded PTE instead. He's wondering why the game is empty too

pulsar matrix
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There was a time I played a Rev War mod for HL1 & 2, had like... 100 players on a great day for years.

People crying about 5000 players 🙃

finite berry
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Now, who is that? One dev, one QA or one playtester? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

finite berry
finite berry
nova pivot
analog apex
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some dev

finite berry
fringe hollow
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think I could find the one server if I got on PTE?

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devs forget to close it, wouldnt put it past them

analog apex
wind shore
fringe hollow
wind shore
dusty bolt
nova pivot
grizzled kiln
thin lotus
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u19 has been renamed to u18 coldfix

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sorry everyone, three updates this year just wasnt possible

wind shore
daring pewter
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Servers keep crashing

wind shore
wind shore
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when hotfix

wind shore
rough gazelle
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Dude at this point just roll back U18 until its fixed.

finite berry
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There should be a counter to reset whenever someone says "roll back U18"

wind shore
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People ask for roll back @oak current

wind shore
golden cape
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anyone having connection lost to host problems? keeps happening to me and my buddy

wind shore
oak current
golden cape
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its not every match but it happened when i was like 55-1 in a tank

wind shore
oak current
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aha

golden cape
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lost all my xp

finite berry
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(well, me >:), but I don't count)

wind shore
oak current
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I'm aware of it

wind shore
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What means roll back? Removing the update and backup to previous version

rough gazelle
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Freshbakedgoods explained everything really well. https://youtu.be/-4bAGeotr5k?t=14

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Hell Let Loose - Update 18 Changes & First Impressions...

Update 18 for Hell Let Loose is finally here, and after spending some time with it, I’m not sure this is the direction the game needed to go. From the armor rework to the new gameplay systems and balance changes... this update is not it. In this video, I share my first impressions and honest thoughts on how Update 18 plays, what’s changed, a...

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wind shore
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The whole progress would be downgraded imo. If roll back until fix, all stats etc

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I’m not waiting any of it, I’m busy rn to play the game, it would be fixed already when I come back

finite berry
wind shore
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When it comes it will comes, I’m not waiting, just would play 🔜

harsh heron
wind shore
wicked igloo
nova pivot
fringe hollow
# wind shore Wdym by that

Experts in Candy Crush tend to be annoying white elders who yell at clouds. He's making fun of T17 for either not testing, or doing bad.

wind shore
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Visit Italy to create Italian front and map - sounds nice! Would be nice addition to the game, Sicily or another Italian map in 1943

sacred torrent
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Is this the basic chat room for the HLL channel? Or am I missing where people link up to play?

fringe hollow
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this is HLL general chat

finite berry
sacred torrent
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Got it. Thank you guys

hybrid sage
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?

thorn pilot
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💀

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still embed banned in the big 2k25

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37 hours crazy work tho

wind shore
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Ben is playing what he wants, what’s wrong with it

thorn pilot
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@zapped

fiery ibex
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stupid zapped guy

wind shore
fiery ibex
harsh heron
wind shore
harsh heron
hushed turtle
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Was the kill screen tested: "Tell us if this is awful"

harsh heron
wind shore
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It was only PTE about map, it’s weird that we weren’t testing other features in PTE and it wasn’t PTE this time for it

harsh heron
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Shermans having suspension issues (veering left in a straight line) , panthers looking like the real german tanks that would never get to the frontline, that bothered me

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I guess that if they'd invited community volunteers to be trained and thoroughly test it, they'd have got a better end result

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Or they could pay, as you'd expect from work being done

thin lotus
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youre a sucker if youre gonna test things for free.
Let them do their own QA, let them fail if they need to

hushed turtle
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The is always some sort of dynamic in software development that if someone does work to make something slightly worse its always accepted because effort has been spent. It becomes awkward otherwise.

harsh heron
harsh heron
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And also, if the IP was acquired with a broken code, nobody would enjoy, but I guess people would understand if they had come clean about it

dim snow
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Why can’t they just give it to a bigger company to sort this so called broken net code out

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If this game didn’t have optimisation issues it’d be an absolute belter for eternity

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That’s for console anyway

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And I know people will say “well just buy a PC”

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It’s not the point, we deserve a polished game

sacred shell
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Hello, I am having a massive issue where the game doesn't find any server. Spent the last hour trying to fix it but no avail

wind shore
dim snow
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I know bud, but you know, the everyday person can’t afford a high end PC these days

nova pivot
dim snow
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Especially in a cost of living crisis

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Polished lol

dim snow
nova pivot
tired ingot
fringe hollow
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maybe

dim snow
nova pivot
nova pivot
dim snow
nova pivot
fringe hollow
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screw 'Nam. Remake HLL OG without the code spaghetti! Give us a proper game!

slate canopy
dim snow
slate canopy
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Why not?

dim snow
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It has now.

nova pivot
wind shore
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Change it back @dim snow

dim snow
dim snow
nova pivot
dim snow
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No way

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A Spanish Newcastle fan ?

nova pivot
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🤣

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It's a long story

wind shore
dim snow
# nova pivot Yes

Fair play, I’m not even from Newcastle, but just supported the team my dad did

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UP THE TOON

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Tonali a new deal hopefully

dim snow
nova pivot
dim snow
wind shore
nova pivot
polar oyster
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hey guys

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is there self promotion to Hell let loose related servers

slate canopy
polar oyster
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Whats a

polar oyster
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What is that

covert elbow
fringe hollow
# polar oyster What is that

Seeding is when people join an empty server and just wait around for more people to join. There are special rules, such as only fighting over the middle point (some servers are different)

polar oyster
fringe hollow
nova pivot
nova pivot
broken shoal
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fix the god damn game jesus christ

polar oyster
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I uploaded my server

frail heart
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Tuesdays & Sundays seem to be the prime time for numbers for HLL.
6-7k on them days

Comp keeps this game running

Big round of applause for the comp scene doing that! 🥳 🫂

past vortex
fringe hollow
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We love our resident tryhards!

past vortex
polar oyster
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Did I break any rules?

past vortex
polar oyster
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WDYM

past vortex
feral vine
thin pendant
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hi im installing on steam. do i need the test branch or can i leave it uninstalled? thanks

river rover
thin pendant
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thank you ❤️

dreamy mauve
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Couldn't refund the game and decided to play it, fell through the map on my 4th respawn. Truly amazing

slate canopy
dreamy mauve
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lousy game

lavish kernel
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I mean you have to put more than 12 minutes into it to form a legitimate opinion

dreamy mauve
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I have 44 hours

lavish kernel
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havent even scratched the surface yet

dreamy mauve
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Played it years back, now it's completely fked

agile pumice
lavish kernel
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thats because it is brutal to new players

slate canopy
# dreamy mauve lousy game

I have fallen through the map on 2.. which it was because the outpost was too close to a building that didn't have a floor.

dreamy mauve
#

It's been literal years since I've fallen through a map in a game

fringe hollow
#

people fall through the map?

dreamy mauve
#

I just did

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Got screenshots of it

fringe hollow
#

I've only been blow apart so hard my head phases through

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new bug for me to experience I guess

dreamy mauve
#

Also, nobody talks

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This wasn't the case last time too

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What happened in the 3 years I didn't play?

nova pivot
slate canopy
#

Falling through map. (8/2024)

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lavish kernel
#

ive fallen through the map like 2 or 3 times in nearly 3,000 hrs of playtime. its a video game dude, weird stuff happens every now and then

fringe hollow
lavish kernel
#

dont get me wrong, this update is broke af and its crazy they pushed it out in this state but they will fix it or roll it back

slate canopy
#

Use that mic... And play on community servers for mics.

fringe hollow
#

I don't get why people don't want to call out in local "I got infantry 220 from me" and suddenly have EXTRA HELP

thin lotus
#

being a dev for a game you neither play nor find enjoyable must be an experience

dreamy mauve
slate canopy
#

What region?

dreamy mauve
#

EU

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Playing on american servers requires gaming 2 business days in advance

lavish kernel
#

join a community like Circle and that would probably help you find it more fun

slate canopy
#

But I hop on European like late night? Lol

dreamy mauve
slate canopy
#

I played on Circle like Saturday night, full server. (I am central US)

lavish kernel
#

there are a ton of German communities in HLL, just find one you enjoy when their server is up, and join their Discord

dreamy mauve
#

Bold of you to assume that I want to play with other deutschbags

pine timber
#

that would def be something if there wasn't a german community in a WWII game

lavish kernel
#

that links you up with others from your area and you can join voice channels and pick a server to play in. solves the no mic issue

fringe hollow
#

doesnt solve but helps greatly.

lavish kernel
fringe hollow
#

I keep saying a tutorial with forced auditory and microphone testing means people would be choosing to not talk, then we can yell at them harder

dreamy mauve
#

Force people to talk and you get the modern european pvp voice chat experience (No one ever makes a sound)

cedar ore
cedar ore
# dreamy mauve Also, nobody talks

Gotta play the right servers, personally I try to stick to servers with player level limits but you need to reach those levels first lol

fleet flicker
dreamy mauve
glossy heath
#

everyone acting like lucerne is wrong saying 'lousy game' have any of you played the last week

harsh heron
dreamy mauve
#

That is the disappointment

past vortex
harsh heron
#

Talking to my clan I've come up with the theory that we've all developed some sort of 21st century Stockholm Syndrome

glossy heath
dreamy mauve
glossy heath
#

yes but the bug ur talking about existed then too

past vortex
harsh heron
harsh heron
#

I guess T17 is just a front for Disney, they've done to HLL what they've done to Star Wars

obtuse dragon
#

next thing i saw was him falling through the map

slate canopy
#

That was on Remagen. lol

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I remember exactly what building too

obtuse dragon
slate canopy
obtuse dragon
#

which is kinda understandable with maps that are so, so big

slate canopy
#

You can tell from the picture that it's that spot. I had the OP n ext ot the buildling. It was my oopsie.

obtuse dragon
slate canopy
#

LOL

obtuse dragon
#

You can also get stuck inside the rocks of the desert maps

slate canopy
#

My favorite stuck was on the old Stalingrad.

obtuse dragon
#

If you're near a pile of logs, die and get revived you'll fall

slate canopy
#

They did an airhead, I believe South of Kosmo?

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Sorry, South of Nail Factory.

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Into a big house at the corner of the street... and we were all stuck inside 🙃

harsh heron
lavish kernel
#

Another lesson learned, NEVER let your dev team schedule a vacation at the same time they release a major update

obtuse dragon
#

dbd ahhh devs

minor peak
#

game still broken?

past vortex
#

rehmagen mentioned 😋

obtuse dragon
fluid hedge
#

is asia server bearable?

slate canopy
fluid hedge
#

how much ms if i play on europe?

harsh heron
slate canopy
#

I'd say above 200 is no good.

#

I play on 160 before and it's fine (It shows 130 on the list)

fluid hedge
#

will try, thanks!

lapis herald
#

just got here

slate canopy
#

Welcome in

obtuse dragon
#

Above 400, I'm from a literal corner of the world, play at 300 ping and it's surprisingly playable

carmine tundra
#

Anybody else having problems trying to open the game?

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It's been checking for updates and syncing data for 30 mins🥲

covert elbow
obtuse dragon
covert elbow
#

Must be cold there

obtuse dragon
#

I LITERALLY LIVE ON THE AZZCRACK OF THE WORLD 😭

obtuse dragon
#

On the north? hot asf, south? cold asf

slate canopy
azure heath
#

Now I’m wondering.. is it possible to clear cache in your brain or is it always there?

obtuse dragon
azure heath
#

I think we all need a good lobotomy.

carmine tundra
azure heath
#

Not all heroes are sirs

carmine tundra
#

I thought lobotomies were a requirement to play HLL

slate canopy
azure heath
frail berry
#

Does anyone have a TPL invite link? Trying to join a clan but the links from smithers videos dont work

slate canopy
frail berry
hybrid sage
frail berry
hybrid sage
#

I should be in your message requests

frail heart
#

Day 62 of asking when they will fix update 18

fallen surge
#

Not sure which part of the update is the worst, but being in a match changing firefight only to suddenly disconnect from server, is like an unwanted ad break during a live sports game.

fallen surge
fallen surge
dawn depot
#

What does the new death screen say if you get melee killed, anyone got a screenshot?

analog apex
#

haven't got meeleed yet

#

good question

#

but hopefully it won't matter as hopefully they will revert the deathscreen

#

as well as the ADS FOV slider

covert elbow
#

I stabbed someone yesterday

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I was doing recon shenanigans at the enemy’s base and some guys were looking for me but I hid in the grass

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Guy litterally walked up next to me, stopped, then got his binos out to look for me

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Stabbed him right in the back

worthy charm
#

You just need to get into a round with @visual tiger and you will get knifed 100%

covert elbow
#

It’s amazing how hidden you can be when you don’t move or shoot people unnecessarily

#

Probably only fired 4 rounds in 50 minutes during that match

worthy charm
covert elbow
#

I was on Hurtgen

worthy charm
#

They needed to come back every 5 minutes because I waited in the cap

covert elbow
#

The bushes and grass hid you really well. I wasn’t even wearing camo

covert elbow
worthy charm
#

To be fair people also are kinda blind

analog apex
#

grass not rly... renders only up to a short range

covert elbow
worthy charm
#

equally bad

#

Love it

covert elbow
#

It was hilarious

#

I just waited for arty to fire a shot, move to a firing position, let them fire a few more shots to get comfortable, get up, shoot a round when they fired the guns, got back down, crawled away, then repeated ad nasuem for almost an hour

#

I could tell they were going crazy when one of the guys respawned as a tank commander and moved a puma to block my shots

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It didn’t work

worthy charm
#

I had an epic duel with an arty player for about 30m yesterday.

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Bro, gave up after a while

analog apex
#

CMD arty vs CMD arty?

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or recon vs HQ arty?

worthy charm
#

The first one is funny tho.

analog apex
#

spotter spawncamping a poor arty guy trying to get back, what a duel 😄
I am joking ofc. 🙂 , I don't know the circumstances

worthy charm
cedar shuttle
#

This arty system is doomed, very unfun

worthy charm
#

Usually I dont spawn camp its not fun

worthy charm
analog apex
#

I do, because that's why I am there for - to stop the arty and make sure the peeps will have to spawn elsewhere and waste time runnign back.

worthy charm
#

So I try to avoid doing it myself

analog apex
#

that's why they need to remove the HQ arty guns

worthy charm
analog apex
#

I nor anybody won't have a reason to go there anymore

worthy charm
#

Hopefully

cedar shuttle
analog apex
worthy charm
#

Obviously

covert elbow
#

You exist to go to the HQ, hide, and disrupt the artillery

#

If you aren’t camping the guns then that’s artillery blocking off attack points and pinning down enemy positions

covert elbow
worthy charm
covert elbow
worthy charm
cedar shuttle
covert elbow
#

Even 1 arty gun can make infantry’s life hell

covert elbow
worthy charm
covert elbow
#

It should have been one spot, 8+ minute recharge, and cost like 200 munitions

#

Or better yet have it be adjustable like Sam’s suggestion

analog apex
covert elbow
#

Also it should have been added when the arty guns got taken out. Having them exist at the same time is OP

covert elbow
cedar shuttle
#

I dont know how you can introduce such rapid firepower and make it kill garries. Whoever brainstormed this in T17 hasnt played the game

covert elbow
#

Like I said, it’s a necessary addition but they added it in the worst way possible

covert elbow
worthy charm
#

Either they rework the new ability ot increase the cooldown and spread. The price is fine imo.

cedar shuttle
worthy charm
#

The garrison killing part is should be taken out...

covert elbow
covert elbow
worthy charm
analog apex
covert elbow
#

Altough mortars should still be added

covert elbow
worthy charm
#

More than double actually

cedar shuttle
#

The game needs some kind of long range no los aoe ability, but the abilities provided right now are terrible. HQ Arty and CMD strike are poorly designed.

gilded spade
covert elbow
worthy charm
covert elbow
polar oyster
#

where can I upload my Hell Let Loose server?

polar oyster
covert elbow
#

They aren’t even adding SPA’s. You saw the leaks

finite berry
#

Artillery should be a balanced commander call-in only, change my mind

covert elbow
#

Their just assault guns

worthy charm
finite berry
past veldt
worthy charm
#

The epic no gifs are all here

past veldt
#

Willes, do the funny thing and mute Dorbian before he sends his Epic

worthy charm
past veldt
worthy charm
#

Abu can do it

cedar shuttle
# gilded spade Why do you find HQ arty poorly designed?

Well what is the gameplay?

  • 3 Guns are just too much
  • Stationary sitting in HQ always in the same place so everyone knows where you are the moment a shell lands (biggest issue)
  • Smoke shell is useless, I know it looks fun but you can often see through etc. This is something that needs to be addressed globally and also to stop nvidia filters from enabling you to look through smokes
  • The result of this stationary gameplay is -> If all guns are in use the aoe is ridicolous. The counter is to either splash the arty guns with a tank or rocket snipe accross the map or to send the recon unit in HQ sector and trap it there because otherewise the ability is too strong. I mean how often are people whining in pugs about "please recon go kill the arty"
    So the arty isnt only badly designed but in pugs it also takes away the recons playstyle and lets be honest no one actually wants to camp HQ/get camped. There is no skill involved
worthy charm
#

Thats the extrem Tl:DR version

past veldt
#

God I hate it when he makes good points

covert elbow
#

Nothings more fun then evading enemy patrols and making arty players games a paranoid mess

robust bear
#

lost connection to host ,.....just happened twice in a row , anything anyone know about?

covert elbow
#

They’ll fix it sometime this week

worthy charm
heady hornet
bold gale
analog apex
#

yep

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tank destroyers

bold gale
worthy charm
analog apex
#

so also we need Panzerfausts, mortars, SPGs, TDs, heavy MG emplacements...

finite berry
worthy charm
analog apex
#

right

hidden current
nova pivot
worthy charm
analog apex
#

btw., when is Ben going to be back?

wind shore
worthy charm
night lark
#

Stug tank destroyers have the same 75mm gun that PZ4 and Panthers have. Dont really see the point in adding them unless you use the short barrel Stug as an infantry support gun platform

wind shore
worthy charm
#

Not like his Variation would stop anyone pinging him regardless... 🥲

night lark
#

Oh wait HLL tank gun performances are just plucked from fresh air and are meaningless

worthy charm
bold gale
night lark
worthy charm
#

Stug wouldnt be that cool anyway, germany had so much cooler TDs

night lark
#

The one based on a tiger chassis would be cool af

worthy charm
#

Sturmtiger kek

#

Kidding its the Jagdtiger

#

But Jagdpanther would be cooler

finite berry
finite berry
worthy charm
finite berry
night lark
finite berry
#

One was a StuK, one was a KwK, but I never knew whether there was an actual difference

night lark
#

Like in a Stug you need different mountings and gun mantle because you have to slew the gun whereas in a panther you dont have gun slew because its in a rotating turret

worthy charm
night lark
#

The british should have had different nomenclature for the 17pdr because it had slightly different recoil pistons and the breach block was slightly different in the firefly but nah. Its 17pdr

bold gale
#

Nevermind

finite berry
night lark
#

There is also different calibres for the guns throughout the difference models. So like L/43 calibres vs L/48 calibres

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(Cant wait for someone to try and have a go at the use of calibre here because they dont know “calibre” for artillery refers to barrel length, not diameter)

dusty bolt
#

Still no announcement ????

worthy charm
dusty bolt
#

What’s happening here @lost pulsar

night lark
#

Was there a playtest for the latest update?

worthy charm
#

Not really for the tanks...

night lark
#

Yikes. Youd think theyd atleast play test such a big armour rework

worthy charm
#

I assume they tested it themselfes...

night lark
worthy charm
#

Like that patitions do something

#

:}

night lark
#

Man its actually quite sad seeing the community reaction and the state of the update. The game used to be so fun and i made so many great friends i still talk to playing on it

analog apex
worthy charm
#

Idk

finite berry
#

Also fun fact, his mod even has the E 100 lmao

analog apex
finite berry
#

T17 consists out of AI only

peak hedge
#

Love the new hourly DC feature, boys.

#

Well done.

analog apex
#

hourly? I thought half-an-hourly! 😄

#

yeah guys, we just play HLL too much... so they programmed the game to stop us for our own good

wind shore
#

when hotfix

sturdy quarry
#

ah thats why the stopwatch strap animation has been broken so long... they finally cracked stopping time itself

stiff edge
#

bruh whos idea was the aim down sight FOV slider 💀

#

my smg is a sniper rifle

night lark
#

Will save me having to play on 75 FOV

main harness
stiff edge
#

lmao been getting sniped by lvl 50's accross the map

#

maybe it was him

#

im turning mine bacl to 90 tho feels like cheating

silk igloo
analog apex
sturdy quarry
#

what are your thoughts on current FOV slider as is but increase the sniper zoom?

cold sequoia
#

This game is on life support and needs a medic fast!

worthy charm
cold sequoia
#

true

analog apex
#

one problem creates a new one

#

fixing a problem by creating another one is a dead end

cold sequoia
#

remove the fov

analog apex
#

but we can't know if the current ADS FOV restriction (that is in place), wasn't put to the wrong side of the slider - the devs would need to say soemthign about it to clear it up

#

they said they don't want advantage, yet they put the restriction to not be able for the FOV to be higher than the nonADS one

#

however the higher number is not equal to higher zoom, but vice versa - I would say somebody of the devs got it mixed up

#

well... if they mixed up direction of katyusha strike on Kursk that is being fired from GER HQ direction... why not, right? 😄 can't rule out that option that it was just a dev mistake

#

FOV should be there just for the different cases of different monitor aspect ratios imo

sturdy quarry
#

someone mentioned that the lowest ADS FOV set to 60 is the same as the OG garand ADS FOV - it does feel the same when playing to me

so if it was unintentional, does that mean they intended the garand to have less zoom than originally...

analog apex
sturdy quarry
#

thx

past veldt
#

The garand in ADS is 60fov if you have a normal FOV of 90-120.

The issue is fov has some kind of multiplier or something below 90 fov

sturdy quarry
#

ah i have the normal fov setting set to 90

past veldt
#

Yeah, so if you had ADS FOV at 90, you'd be seeing 60

analog apex
past veldt
#

But if you're set to 60 ads FOV you're actually going down to like 40 or something

past veldt
sturdy quarry
#

yeah i feel pretty motion sick if i put it on horse blinker mode, but can see it is an advantage to those who can handle it

analog apex
#

because FOV setting 60 is not equal to FOV 60 when ADSing with this or that weapon

#

it's a relative modifier, not an absolute value

past veldt
#

Yeah, exactly

#

People asked for an absolute value and the devs decided to make up something new 😂

sturdy quarry
#

by that you mean say i set them both to 90, the view still zooms a little when ADS (not hold breath)?

analog apex
#

there still is zoom because of that

sturdy quarry
#

great thx for helping me get it

past veldt
#

And it is different per gun

#

Garand goes to 60

G43 goes to 70

#

It's why people think the guns have different accuracy and stuff, because the 360/cm when ads is different depending on what they're using

analog apex
#

the problem of guns accuracy is actually the fact that not the gun is accurate, but that the man is able to see like an eagle

#

and aim laser accurately

sturdy quarry
analog apex
#

the level of zoom is different per gun, no matter the ADS FOV setting

#

they have given it a very misleading name to be sure

#

some peeps think that they will have whatever ADS FOV they will choose, with every gun

worthy charm
ornate python
lost pulsar
night lark
# silk igloo pz4 and panther do not have the same gun

The KwK 42 is a better optimised anti gun than the KwK 40. But they are basically the same weapon system with a lot of commonality. The ammunition is nearly identical aside from the wider driving bands on the amunition for the KwK 42.

wind shore
#

"Aiming to drop next week"

Altberg

lost pulsar
finite berry
#

Next week? I thought you guys said "next week" last week already??? ⬆️ statement got updated

wind shore
analog apex
gilded spade
lost pulsar
analog apex
#

That's more than good enough, thanks. 🙂

finite berry
#

Plus, I still want HLL to at least somewhat succeed because it failing would harm the tactical shooter genre in general

gilded spade
finite berry
#

And I don't want that because that would harm the game I play as well

finite berry
#

What do you want me to say? 😄

dusty bolt
meager timber
#

The fact that different weapons have different fov values is pretty bad design. Although it is possible to feed screenshots to AI of the different guns when ADSd with different FOV values via the slider and calculate the exact FOV multiplier that's used. That way you can get an uniform cm/360 by setting ADS FOV per gun with the multiplier in mind

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I'd prefer if they just fixed the game

analog apex
meager timber
analog apex
#

you know headshot is always a killshot?

meager timber
analog apex
#

if there is a strong zoom and if the target is not moving much, it is far too easy to hit it just because of the zoom

#

and when it comes to normal rifles even when it moves it is easy to hit it - one just gets used to it after a few rounds and thx to the zoom, becomes a sniper without the sniper scope

meager timber
#

Man, it's impossible to talk with you. Nvm

analog apex
#

facts hurt, I know

#

the thing is, the few people want the ADS FOV slider just because... they want it, not because the game objectivelly needs it or because the game is suited for it

meager timber
#

It isn't a fact that you like HLL mechanics

gilded spade
meager timber
#

Balancing weapons through FOV is bad design because it leads to the problem that you describe

#

Killing people with a pistol if you unlock fov

analog apex
#

this update is beyond bad, a revert would have been much prudent move

dusty bolt
#

Rcon v2 that’s why

analog apex
#

good stuff, it feels like the devs just needed more time to polish it

#

time they were not given probably

past veldt
#

A rollback was never going to happen

analog apex
#

yep, now it would be too late anyway

#

the best are the new little things - like being able to see who is dead on the tacMap or picking up the placed down supplies

#

very useful

heady hornet
finite berry
harsh heron
dusty bolt
gilded spade
finite berry
#

Because that would just lead to him getting flooded with more people asking more (angry) questions why they didn't just ✨ roll back ✨ the update, and that's nothing that he will do because he's a T17 member, not a CM.

worthy charm
worthy charm
finite berry
#

I like to being able to shoot out of windows, having better graphics and slowly but steadily improving performance

finite berry
worthy charm
#

Oh no greg is typing

#

I spoke to soon.

finite berry
#

Perhaps I was wrong kek

lost pulsar
finite berry
#

I was in fact wrong kek

worthy charm
finite berry
#

We? You :D

wind shore
finite berry
gilded spade
finite berry
wind shore
finite berry
#

Naturally, true

#

The (assumed) lack of testing is what caused this mess to begin with

past veldt
#

I do enjoy that the first update they release after announcing Vietnam is hated by most of the playerbase kek

lost pulsar
# wind shore Looking at the current situation, a rollback would not be so unreasonable. The g...

Not unreasonable, I agree - you could argue its warranted given the scale of negative feedback. But to consider a roll back, it would have to be disaster levels of bad I reckon. The player levels are still okay - looking at Steamdb; if levels droped to hundreds of players for example, that would be a clear indicator something was majorly wrong.

A rollback would set us back weeks at least, and could actually take us longer to implement than simply patching forward

past veldt
#

All they really have to do is fix the new crashes and stop the arty strike ability from killing garrisons and then the game is back to being playable

finite berry
#

Or can you pin it, Greg

worthy charm
past veldt
past veldt
finite berry
#

Isn't that an improvement? kek

worthy charm
lost pulsar
wind shore
finite berry
lost pulsar
wind shore
steady adder
#

This week is piss poor. It's been a week since the update dreadful management to not even have stuff in place for roll backs if there is major issues.

#

Not to mention the dreadful management that thought this update should of been pushed to live servers

analog apex
# lost pulsar Today's testing should determine the date

don't forget guys - I am sure you could find more testers among us here, who would be willing to sign NDA and stuff... just to help. Some of us may sound like pain in the butt often, but we do it for one sole purpose - for a problem topic being visible and for the game to get better.

delicate mortar
#

I'm not keen on doing a rollback, I'd prefer just boycotting the game until it's fixed. Leave a negative review, play something else and go outside. It will be far more effective than a rollback.

finite berry
#

I'm genuinely surprised HLL is still positive on Steam

#

So far, only one day out of October has been more negative than positive

night lark
#

Id happily sign an NDA and do free testing if it meant the game updates were tested thoroughly

obtuse dragon
worthy charm
analog apex
#

we would be there to blame then too... if any problem would pass into the game/update 😄

dusty bolt
# lost pulsar Today's testing should determine the date

Please allow us to test on these private builds. Theres so many people that want to help. PTE's are not the answer, and havent been in some time.
We need to test dozens of full matches on these test builds so we can find the bugs.

analog apex
#

PTEs are going to be mostly dead anymore, EXPLORE mode encourages offline testing/exploring

#

but the stuff that is about the online part, should be tested thoroguhly internally with peeps that would be there just for that

#

we don't even need to be paid 🙂

south storm
#

Create a Hell Let Loose insider program like for SOT

bold gale
#

Модератор

wind shore
#

Yall get that hot patch yet

finite berry
wind shore
# finite berry No

😂 yeah ima keep this game uninstalled permanently over a week and nothing from your devs

finite berry
#

Not nothing

finite berry
past vortex
#

i knew it, since there was no player number dib they consider it not so bad

ivory wyvern
#

how can i add HLL in Nvidia app?

outer verge
ivory wyvern
obtuse dragon
#

Actually, it depends on where you have it

#

You need to place the HLL executable smth, it has a long azz name

#

You place it on the Nvidia app, pray that it works and you'll be able to use it with it and Take clips, tho sometimes it doesn't work for no reason at all

ivory wyvern
#

and now when i try to play thers this Error about easy anti cheat💔

#

iuts aalmost been 5 days and yet it still giving issues and error like cmon bro

pine timber
#

@worthy charm @cyan saddle my bad for the ping but I created a hll mod-team ticket, do I close it to send it in to the mod team or do I keep it open for you all to read it?

worthy charm
pine timber
#

awesome. I appreciate it, didn't know if I closed it or not

worthy charm
#

Please keep these things to modmail tho

pine timber
#

There's nothing else to keep to modmail. just was a question

obtuse dragon
#

I would send you a screenshot of which one but unfortunately I'm not near my pc 😔

ivory wyvern
ivory wyvern
past veldt
#

And then rescan for it

ivory wyvern
past veldt
#

Every time the game updates you'll need to redo it

obtuse dragon
#

Mine worked by pure force, genuinely spent 4 hours on that

ivory wyvern
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when ever i try to enter the game it just pops up when you about to select the team,
called "Easy anti cheat" its wont let me enter the battle

obtuse dragon
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That's odd, I have no idea why it happens

broken shoal
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one week, where is the patch. fix the god damn game

ivory wyvern
silk igloo
obtuse dragon
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Which will probably target the most important issues