mess-hall

[obtuse dragon]

actually, they showed it at the start of the year but wasn't on the roadmap

[steady plinth]

Yeah bro, everything is gone and dead it's over

[obtuse dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/our-time-has-passed-chudcircle-chud-circle-rdr1-dutch-rdr1-gif-16963815298357023551

[steady plinth]

Yeah man, see you in Vietnam

[wind shore]

hey guys

[gusty venture]

Bold of you to assume it’ll work

[wind shore]

never played but interested and it's on sale right now

[gusty venture]

You’re gonna want to sit down for this bud…

[steady plinth]

Don't take my opinion I'm a hater

[wind shore]

is this game really sweatly like enlisted and warthunder?

[obtuse dragon]

here i was hoping to see pegasus bridge...

[steady plinth]

Warthunder?

[gusty venture]

Worse… it’s broken

[wind shore]

i've seen funny clips like the one witht hat guy bosh ruiniting with his brother and then immediately exploding

[obtuse dragon]

hell nah, it isn't sweaty

but the last update caused some problems

[wind shore]

are there ways to play more of a supportive role?

[gusty venture]

Subscribe to my patreon

[obtuse dragon]

Yes! you can play support, medic and machinegunner

And engineer

[wind shore]

are there very good options for ranged gameplay? riflemen or sniping?

i find that when i play in a team i like to provide covering support like that

just feels like i'm helpful

[obtuse dragon]

The entire game is based for long range gameplay! specially for MG's

[wind shore]

are you able to play and show me the ropes? 🙂

[obtuse dragon]

Well, kinda, i think i have a clip of how long range the game can be

but most of the times the fights will be around 100 meters

And yes, the game also has the sniper role, although most of the times someone will take it since only 2 players per team can play as a sniper

[wind shore]

that's a bummer

but i sorta see why they'd do that

[obtuse dragon]

The snipers can also get a semi-auto rifle after leveling up enough times, so, it's for the sake of balance

[wind shore]

i have good internet so it looks like 20 or so minutes then i can play

[obtuse dragon]

you should start on the bootcamp, i recommend you to start on the german boot camp so you can get used to bolt action rifles and the movement

actually, you should check soulsniper videos on how to play the game

[sturdy bridge]

this game sucks

[nocturne birch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-crazy-crazy-cat-insane-cat-going-insane-gif-5752628082217795406

[obtuse dragon]

nuh uh it isn't beyond the wire

[simple quail]

I just accidentally destroyed the enemy recon's op while driving the supply truck back to HQ after building nodes

[hybrid sage]

u guys take some time off for bf6? ik some of the employees here did

[simple quail]

My only interaction with the battlefield is the new hll UI that looks like bf

[thorn pilot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1326312493001474118/1425211976836976700/attachment.gif

[finite berry]

Nah, never cared for Bf, don't care for this one either.

[thorn pilot]

please unban my embeds swear just want to know if the devs enjoying bf6!!! 🫃 🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃

🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃

[woeful musk]

Soldiers move like they're on crack and weapons like laser beams. Unrealistic af

[pulsar pollen]

guys is it me or did yall also got hll crashed multiple times after update?

[obtuse dragon]

personally i haven't experienced any crashes, but i think that other players have been experienced a lot of them

[pulsar pollen]

damn bro
it crashed 3 times mid game then i jus quit

[steady plinth]

Guys BF6 soon

[obtuse dragon]

i just experienced a server crash, nothing else besides the poor performance of stalingrad

[steady plinth]

You should go over to the HLL sub-reddit it's a huge issue

[real light]

what is the max levvel for classes like machin gunner

[obtuse dragon]

for the free cosmetic unlocks it depends on the faction

[heady hornet]

whose turn is it to complain about the new KIA-Screen?

[steady plinth]

Yours

[snow pond]

IMO, given the number of extra changes that arrived with this update that were not PTE tested. Why not run a PTE for a longer period, say a few weeks for the release candidate build. The community would have spotted the issues early and the live build wouldnt have been compromised by the bugs. Just sayin.

[hidden current]

Get outta here with your common sense

[upper canopy]

u lil joker u

[cyan saddle]

It will forever be in my trophy case

My humour has only gone downhill since

[pulsar pollen]

isee

[past veldt]

PTE isn't even necessary for some of these changes though.

Like if they had just written somewhere that they think the new arty strike ability should kill garrisons, we could probably have pointed out all of the issues within 5 minutes, without even playing the game

[cyan saddle]

I think it's more realistic that it's an unintended consequence of reusing some of the blueprints used for the katyusha (you can also get katyusha-related achievements using the arty ability for instance) without considering that it could also destroy garrisons.

That still isn't a great excuse, but it's a better one, at least in my eyes 😅

[past veldt]

I think it's worse, because who ever created this just copy and pasted without particularly thinking about what they were doing

Or they actually thought yeah you know, most commander abilities destroy garrisons so makes sense for this to do so too

I would love to know the decision making process for it, but my actual suspicion is that the Devs only play the game in their internal matches and none of them understand their game enough to be able to work out that something like this is a broken mechanic

[hidden current]

They could hire us as QA team 🥹 a dozen of us in WTH alone went straight into the game and identified the issues within minutes

Would do it for free!

@cedar shuttle had the time of his life

[cyan saddle]

Half the bugs reported would be along the lines of "cannot find old SME" and "hill400 has too many trees" but I think that that's a worthy trade-off

If it means artillery strike wouldn't destroy garrisons

[hidden current]

Tbh I was looking forward to the new bunker building meta to protect the garries but yeah it is a bit strong 😂

[past veldt]

We'd need literally one match to work out that some stuff is broken

I had that encouraged bug they fixed nailed down within like 10 minutes and I wasn't even looking for it

[hidden current]

They should have left it (I think you agree?). More airheads added a little bit extra spice but not too much. Although maybe i am thinking from comp POV too much

[past veldt]

Mate, no one in pubs was using it. Some guy on Reddit told me it wasn't true

[gritty glen]

Have a great BF6 release day 👍

[pine ember]

Thanks, I'm hyped to use my beloved M433

[main harness]

Wonder if I can squad up with the HLL devs "on holiday" for BF6 later? x

[faint portal]

There is no way in hell wombat comes out of her den 🤣🤣
In crisis, the prodigal child will always return

Again ill say it, best thing of U18 is seeing my friends I haven't seen in years return

[cyan saddle]

Did I miss Terrydactyl? 👀

[dusty bolt]

No hotfix today ??? 😭😭😭

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-and-jesse-pinkman-handshake-walter-and-jesse-handshake-gif-12675755010462311397

[worthy charm]

as if you would expected one today :}

[faint portal]

@crisp lily

[dusty bolt]

I expected one yesterday

[worthy charm]

That wasnt what I expected but im still right I guess

U18 Hotfix

[vale garnet]

Terrydactyl witch hunting a comp player because he couldn’t fathom being in a bush was a peak HLL moment

[crisp lily]

you mean the guy who wasnt in a bush, but in a hedge that you are not meant to get into?

[vale garnet]

If you just hold space it is very much easy to get into

Amazing what happens when you hold space in this game

[crisp lily]

cmon, we all know its a map bug/glitch

[vale garnet]

Climbing is a glitch? If he was clipping through stuff sure but having climbable assets that people actually use is a feature

If all you have to do is hold space it’s not a glitch

[crisp lily]

yes, you are an idiot

[vale garnet]

Resorting to insulting people because you have no reply nice one

[past veldt]

If it was a glitch, why wouldn't they fix it 🫂

[crisp lily]

ok, let me ask you this. if you can "climb" and go under the map, is that a bug/glitch?

[vale garnet]

“If he was clipping through stuff” literally already said it

You being bad at the game does not mean people who are better than you are doing something wrong

[crisp lily]

ok, so climbing and clipping into a hedge

which is what happened

[vale garnet]

It’s not clipping you are on top of a solid object?

[past veldt]

You can climb trees irl

[crisp lily]

it really wasnt an insult, its a fact

[vale garnet]

You can walk through bushes on ground level in the game, is that also a glitch?

Is walking through tall grass a glitch?

By your logic all of these are glitches

[ornate python]

I clip into the water when I take a bath

[vale garnet]

Climbing on top of a solid climbable object is not glitching

[past veldt]

Pls stop abusing bugs

[vale garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-stupid-brainlet-wojak-meme-gif-17170021

[faint portal]

Plz drop a U18 video
I beg you
This is peak terry content rn 😭

[gritty glen]

#freeterry

[crisp lily]

nah lol

cba, havent played in about a year. It would turn into a review of the past patches/updates since my last vid

[vale garnet]

I’m waiting for the “CHEATERS EXPOSED” video about the fact we still have filter access that nobody has actually made yes

I thought that was such a sure thing to happen

[faint portal]

I need a terry video in my life tho
Do it, you must the people need you

https://tenor.com/view/not-the-hero-we-deserve-hero-we-need-batman-dark-knight-dark-knight-rises-gif-7953172252442202896

[granite junco]

🤡

[granite junco]

[wind shore]

[thin scarab]

sad part is we can make 1000 more videos but it will not help at all... this is broken Update number 5? 6? its fair to say now that nothing will change and T17 just doesnt learn from misstakes

[oak current]

last video 1 year ago, dont think you'll see something.

[wind shore]

and yet ppl are still defend this update

[granite junco]

Vietnam will fix surely

[wind shore]

ligma

[vale garnet]

Everything will be perfect when Vietnam comes out dw

Nothing will be broken

[faint portal]

Fix something? T17 could never

[thin scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

[vale garnet]

With this patch they also added the ability to see cross map by making assets despawn too

That’s fun

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-batman-signal-raining-gif-7365003

[wind shore]

Even if they could, they wouldn't be able to do it. Why? cause t17

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-rub-hands-patrick-star-evil-plan-gif-15072939

[past veldt]

They never even responded to my Subject Access Request either so they're not even in GDPR compliance 😔

T17 really should at least try to do better

[faint portal]

Not familiar with this 🤔
Looked that up it seems like a European thing

I looked it up but I still don't understand what your subject access request means?

What is it?
A comprehensive data privacy law passed by the European Union (EU).
It harmonizes data privacy laws across EU member states.
It is considered the toughest privacy and security law in the world, impacting any organization that targets or collects data related to people in the EU.

^^gpt

[wind shore]

lowk hoping they go bankrupt

[past veldt]

A subject access request (SAR) is an individual's legal right to ask an organization for a copy of their personal data and other information about how it's being used, including the purpose, source, and recipients. Individuals don't need a lawyer to make a SAR, which can be verbal or written, and in most cases, the organization must respond for free within one month.

Googles equivalent gpt^

[vale garnet]

New idea, we all spam them with SARs

[past veldt]

Low-key really irritating way to annoy an entire business

[faint portal]

Hmm interesting! So they basically have to disclose what they use your data for
I suppose what data do they even capture outside of steam data
I guess probably ip etc?

[past veldt]

Well that's it, who knows

[faint portal]

Lmao that's fair

[past veldt]

(I've signed some docs with them too so I actually know they have someone info of mine)

[oak current]

Data Protection Laws

[past veldt]

But yeah, pop one in and see if they respond

[wind shore]

kauf das von den Devs ab

[oak current]

?

[vale garnet]

I reckon we could get like 200+ sent in

[faint portal]

This is like the stuff you and I were talking about yesterday right 🤔

[past veldt]

I'd commit a code of conduct violation if this happened to me

[faint portal]

Same but everyone has my data so I guess I'll just die

[past veldt]

True, thanks for paying my mortgage btw

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-die-good-luck-guess-ill-die-crab-rave-gif-16382907

[dusty bolt]

It’s all part of the plan yall. Release a broken update the same week as BF6 so it kills the numbers

[vale garnet]

Famous DC member glow hello

[dusty bolt]

Yes it is I

[faint portal]

Bf6 releasing the same week is the best part of U18
A good palette cleanser

[thin scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

[gritty glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/883599930059522071/1300758223757770803/attachment.gif

[oak current]

Data Protection Laws, aye - theres some local stuff, but also som continental stuff

[dusty bolt]

How does one buy a bf6 server

[oak current]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/462409534401413144/1424797525629599897/a89m0r.gif

[dusty bolt]

I want to get one for my peeps

[gritty glen]

hello @dusty bolt

[dusty bolt]

Yo

[gritty glen]

hello @oak current

[vale garnet]

Can I request a SAR from a server owner?

[dusty bolt]

Hello @ocean canopy

[vale garnet]

I could really make glows day suck

[dusty bolt]

You want to suck my day?

[gritty glen]

@rocky pagoda

[dusty bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/mongotv-gif-3444803703739324627

[ocean canopy]

What u want

[gritty glen]

hello @ocean canopy

[dusty bolt]

Kurwa mac

[ocean canopy]

Hello @gritty glen

[past veldt]

Hi @ocean canopy

[ocean canopy]

Hello @past veldt

[dusty bolt]

ilu idiotów myślisz, że to przetłumaczy?

[vale garnet]

YO I GOT WARNED HAHAHAH

[ocean canopy]

Some of them

[dusty bolt]

Haha

[vale garnet]

That’s actually insane to warn for that too

[dusty bolt]

Wait where

Who warned you

[vale garnet]

Racist and homophobic ngl

[faint portal]

I think they are all free... I was thinking the same thing 🤔
I'm pretty sure it's hosted by ea that's the main thing

[past veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1326312493001474118/1425211976836976700/attachment.gif

[vale garnet]

I like big booty Latinas

If I don’t get warned for that the previous one was homophobic just saying

[past veldt]

Alf stop baiting, there are children present

[hybrid sage]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1105022143307186247/1426163135412441239/attachment.gif

[dusty bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/ali-g-sacha-baron-cohen-respect-gif-4606499

[hybrid sage]

they dont play their own game, cant spell their own ability correctly lmao

[dusty bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-gif-26178844

[past veldt]

At least we know they're not homophobic based on your mute 🫂

[hidden current]

Justice for Alf!

(jk pls ban him)

for his own good

[dusty bolt]

@fatsacks

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/853008000150798359/883292263650840576/image0.gif

[azure heath]

aw

i was tryna get my crypto stolen

[solar slate]

@azure heath DM me your wallet details I'll steal them for you

[azure heath]

I gotchu!

[worthy charm]

Is he still here?

Couldnt even find him

[gentle lintel]

it was the wombat-exodus

[worthy charm]

Wombat still lurking around.

Dont get into dark alleys kids

[nocturne birch]

@azure heath

[past veldt]

Wombat absolutely loves the drama

[pine timber]

💀 ?

[upper canopy]

I'm disappointed you guys are still having to deal with it

[azure heath]

@nocturne birch

[azure heath]

We must

We wish for success.

[past veldt]

Stockholm syndrome at this point

Part of me enjoys it

[azure heath]

Feels like being part of a second dysfunctional family.

[nocturne birch]

Thank you

[worthy charm]

T17 is the drunk father and Bens is the mother or what? 😂

[azure heath]

What ever you fantasize in that gorgeous brain of yours

[worthy charm]

Huh

[pine hull]

sooo... what do you guys think. Will we be stuck in this hell of a gamestate for the whole weekend or will they make a good decision and revert it back to U17? 🔥

[dusty bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/but-i’m-not-original-gif-4077672862622552877

[grizzled kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-meme-aardman-the-pirates-pirate-gif-26563702

[dusty bolt]

1,900 steam players playing right now

[wanton summit]

two time in a roll fatal error now , cmon devs fix that shits

[dusty bolt]

I dont think I've ever seen that before that low

[azure heath]

And you’re still seeded

what a legend

[dusty bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-2375696290766999196

[hidden current]

they are on a well deserved holiday!

[dusty bolt]

so first the main dev decides to take a vacation, and now ben goes on vacation. jokes

[pine hull]

it's so incredibly awesome for the thousands of comp players playing a huge tournament atm :)

[wind shore]

@upper canopy How are you? Have you seen the trailer. Do you like the new map ( on game engine renders )?

[main harness]

Greyhounds are mad because they have a legit chance at winning and then this update kills the game

[past veldt]

Woah woah woah

[finite berry]

Just wait 'til the community goes on vacation as well

[main harness]

Trust me, it hurt me to write it too. I was quite happy with ESPT just winning everything and being the bad guys for it

[azure heath]

tbh, I think she’s checked out from this game.

[worthy charm]

A few people got online in the last 7 minutes. :}

[azure heath]

That’s actually pretty crazy.

[pine hull]

As if that would change anything. The last CM who actively engaged with and interacted with the comp community was WombatMedic. Since then, all we ever hear is "we definitely want to do something in that area" – but in the end, nothing actually happens. But it’s nice to see that the patch isn’t being well received outside of the comp community either.

[main harness]

Yeah, @dusty bolt put out a seeding ping.

[past veldt]

PBS bots must be online to seed their 19 servers

[molten sail]

we need the pacific

[flint hill]

So when are we going back to at least the old vehicle explosions 🤣 new ones aren’t as extravagant as before

[tall kettle]

https://i.imgur.com/oqjthtn.png

[azure heath]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604

[flint hill]

Waaaack

[main harness]

Vietnam is close enough to the pacific. Trust me, I graduated school in america

[dusty bolt]

You knopw me

[finite berry]

I thought the previous ones looked bad already lol

[dusty bolt]

Come kiss me at the tiger tank @past veldt

[worthy charm]

Glow spends more money on servers then the US goverment on military

[molten sail]

Well... I.. GRADUATED HELL LET LOOSE! ⚔️ 🪖

[finite berry]

Damn, and you learnt about countries outside the North American continent?

[flint hill]

They at least had made a boom noise

[past veldt]

Sorry your big black isn't... Wait don't mute me pls

[finite berry]

fair

[dusty bolt]

coooooooooock

https://tenor.com/view/life-like-this-sure-is-sweet-drewski-jack-harlow-luxury-luxurious-gif-23979068

[azure heath]

I know every country as an american gang

even east timor

[grizzled kiln]

Only 19 ? Guess some of them must have crashed due to the update

[azure heath]

What’s PBS?

Public Broadcasting Service? I thought their funding stopped

[past veldt]

Powerbits is the best sniper in HLL and he has a whole game team

[main harness]

PBS recon division was OP

[grizzled kiln]

Penguin Ballet Society , or so I heard anyway

[wind shore]

😏

[silk igloo]

we can just recreate U18 in battlefield portal and make it work. we have the technology

[echo karma]

@wooden cloud good video brother

[kind void]

i get some kind of a battle screen when i start the game, and im not getting into the lobby at all, stuck at that screen. Is this normal?

[wooden cloud]

Thanks dude. I’m tired of this. I’ve expressed concerns directly to T17 for weeks about this update and practically begged for PTEs but they just ignored it

[calm dirge]

anyone else stuck in loading screen after the new update?

[kind void]

yes

some kind of a battlefield screen

[calm dirge]

ye

[hushed vortex]

today...

[echo karma]

Yeah I bet all the content creators are. No alpine video yet either

[hushed vortex]

the problem is only EPIC. Steam works fine

[kind void]

okey thank you

[twilit citrus]

love how the biggest consistent complain over 6 years of this game has been the artillery
just for you guys to add a artillery strike function for the commander on top

and it even takes out garrisons

I can't even...

[worthy charm]

They really should have taken out HQ arty with this update.

[twilit citrus]

or just do what they've been talking about for YEARS
and also teased us with in the Vietnam trailer
mobile mortar squads

[worthy charm]

Regardless this still is like second or third place on the "why did you faq this up?" list depending on if you are a tanker

[thin lotus]

explosion coming from the sky #???? added to the game

Borrrrrrrrrrrrrring

[twilit citrus]

I'd still rather have the HQ arty than this commander arty
at least it takes players to use it
some communication between players
and it doesn't destroy garrisons

could be limited to one tho

[finite berry]

Dude, just change the commander arty to not being able to destroy garrisons

Commander arty is much better than player-controlled arty imo

[twilit citrus]

or just don't have it
because it adds 0 to the gameplay

[main harness]

Its actually crazy that the game is nearly unplayable for so many servers and there has been no hotfix instantly. When you push out a patch like this, your office should be full ready to fix stuff like this.

[worthy charm]

Im as a pub only players dont know how it is in comp. In my experience people on arty never use comms at all, neither do they mark where they shoot.

[main harness]

4x disconnects from 3 different servers

[atomic pendant]

Very likely that they knew the update wasn't where it needed to be but the suits at Team 17 insisted that they ship it to try to get in front of the BF6 release. But surprisingly, shipping a broken and half-baked update that breaks both game mechanics AND servers/RCON is a great way to drive people over to BF6. What great timing! HLL breaks but hey, new shiney game just dropped over here!

[worthy charm]

Im highly prefer the added commander arty, but am not sure why the hell they added it before the arty rework with U19 and SPAs

Doenst make sense at all...

[rocky pagoda]

@gritty glen

[past veldt]

In comp, artillery is one guy who cannot be killed. So this commander ability is actually more expensive per shell and slightly less available than competitive arty

[atomic pendant]

I don't believe the devs are just incompetent. I believe their hands are tied and they are not given enough time to test and dial in their code to something they feel they can stand behind proudly.

[worthy charm]

I wont go into detail but I summed up my oppinio over here #1425229939115823337 message

[twilit citrus]

the only consistency since Team17 took over his horrendous QA (with that one trailer having been the peak), performance decline and constant new DLCs (while an entire faction still feels like they're missing 80% of the regular cosmetics)

[finite berry]

It's honestly mindboggling reading that. What are they thinking?!

[molten sail]

i think we need even more explosions
please t17 one more arty gun

[past veldt]

Nah, they are actually incompetent. There is no reason for them to have added commander arty on top of regular arty and have it destroy garrisons (which was decided to be too strong in like 2019)

[wooden cloud]

Honestly I wish I could say more, but yes it’s that stupid of a situation lol

[main harness]

If they were competent they would have tested, or at the very least asked for feedback with proper beta/PTR access. Instead they give access to people who make youtube videos and thats kind of it... Some of them know a few things about the game, but its like 10 people versus a whole lot more...

[twilit citrus]

btw the grenade bug still exists

[main harness]

Im only onboard with this if we use the new, cutting edge explosion animation.

[finite berry]

On the other hand, it also makes sense what SoulSniper said, that the devs' hands are tied

[past veldt]

I'm regularly starting games as a lvl 1 instead of my actual level

[twilit citrus]

oh yeah that one too

[molten sail]

just make the guns fire explosive rounds whilst they are at it

[main harness]

Its displaying your skill level instead

❤️

[past veldt]

Sir, I am #1 EU commander

Sorry

#1 EU roleplayer

[pine ember]

Please, T17, there are so many issues with the update, I listed them here #1425786288115548170 message FIX THEM AND MAKE HLL HLL AGAIN!!!

Its just getting to casual. Please respect the legacy of HLL

[worthy charm]

Its hard to say... the update we get is unacceptable either way.
I can overlook tank issues and Arty being weird, the server issue tho... You probably have more to fight with that than I ever could imagine.

[main harness]

Its quite incredible that the even the discord mods are flaming the update and we have heard nothing other than "We will do a hotfix" like... the hotfix is one thing, but the actual content of the update is awful too

[neat urchin]

So no hot fix today?

[atomic pendant]

OK but let's say management said "U18 ships on 10/7 no matter what, no exceptions."

[silk igloo]

Well, they'll fix it eventually, just gotta hibernate for a while.

[atomic pendant]

Even if they tried to squeeze in a PTE, they clearly didn't have time to implement the changes anyway

[thin lotus]

ah yes, the "management" boogeyman

[wanton summit]

reacon tank tracks cant be repared by crew ... wth

[hidden current]

when pacific update

[past veldt]

Tournaments are being postponed.

Like 3000 people aren't going to be playing HLL on Sunday for premium community events, they're going to be playing other games

[cosmic pilot]

It's very obvious that the devs abilities are exceed by the demands of the job.
I don't want to sound harsh or judgemental but it's really clear by now they aren't up to snuff.

[worthy charm]

Its on the list of things to fix

-# the list is long tho

[neat urchin]

Our comp league is postponed until a hotfix comes

[molten sail]

we are need ze pacific now

[main harness]

They didn't ask the right people on how to balance the tanks. And those they did ask, they ignored. As much as its clear that management has forced an update to ship, the develops chose to not use the resources they have aka... the nerds like us with thousands of hours.

[thin lotus]

all we can judge is what gets pushed out, "management" stories are just speculation at best, and cope at worst

[west berry]

2 x fatal errors in 1 hour why??

[main harness]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1406434934934999080/1425514134597931159/attachment.gif

[neat urchin]

Devs thinking they’re actual players lol

[cosmic pilot]

They're not incompetent through a lack of trying, but that the best they can try clearly isn't good 🤷‍♂️

[atomic pendant]

I mean I do think they are slow or understaffed or both, which adds to the problems. But I also believe they are being given deadlines they can't hit, which creates a ton of issues and forces them to released half-finished updates.

[main harness]

The moment that dev said on stream his favourite role is tank driver he should have been sacked ngl

[sturdy bridge]

They went on vacation the day the update dropped. Pure incompetence

[atomic pendant]

None of it is excusable

[vestal loom]

T17 has been known to pushbroken products for profit and then letting its employees who had no hand in it take the hit

[analog apex]

yo guys, what's the topic, what can I complain about today? 😄

[neat urchin]

But we captured a German op lol

[worthy charm]

Everything, just go all in

[silk igloo]

They do have the resources though, it's just divided between two games. Think it's fair to say that they could develop HLL better with a full team

[past veldt]

I'd like to complain about Willies

[atomic pendant]

I just think sometimes there's too much focus on "incompetent devs" (meaning the ones who write the code) and not enough backlash on the ones who set deadlines and make the call to ship stuff that isn't ready instead of delay it to do it right.

[past veldt]

No wait Willes

[sturdy bridge]

they banned my friend for using this emoji: 🤪

[vestal loom]

This. 100 percent.

[thin lotus]

literally every update has had something(s) colossally wrong.
This isn't a "big bad boss said to release it quick" issue

[main harness]

They could have released the tank update without the heavy/HP changes and avoided 90% of the issues. Sure the panther would still be dead, but some of these changes are just really poorly thought out.

[atomic pendant]

I knew when I saw that trailer we'd all remember it fondly for the lulz some day

[neat urchin]

That’s the problem, they can barley make one game work, how did they expect two games to work lol

[twilit citrus]

the only other game I know Team17 from is a 2 dimensional worms game (which is fire tbf)

[molten sail]

right now we need the big bad boss to tell them to release a hotfix NOW!

[analog apex]

but... but... they promised to be more careful in the next updates...
😄

[west berry]

anyone else getting fatal error crashes?

[analog apex]

hard to do if they are on vacation xD

[neat urchin]

Yeah but this isn’t the first time t17 burned us. The sprint speed, dolphin dive abuse(was fun) other crap

[cosmic pilot]

It's very much a damned if they do, damned if they don't.
Hit the deadline and players will complain and say they'd rather wait for a perfect patch.
Delay the patch and players will complain there is no patch.

[thin lotus]

And they always go on vacation at Update drops

Yeaaaaaaaah right. That is 100% damage control narrative

[wind shore]

If we all ping Ben he must come out of vacation

[thin scarab]

Problem with the Devs if you Look at Q&As is that they have no real Vision for this Game and no real Plan. And then every update they bring is somewhat broken everytime. Its clear by now that this Studio is incompetent to fix or Build to improve it

[past veldt]

@lost pulsar we need some community management pls

[vestal loom]

https://www.ign.com/articles/team17-staff-speak-out-on-sexual-harassment-low-pay-poor-treatment-and-more

[sturdy bridge]

please dont tag my bro @lost pulsar

[neat urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/supervisor-speak-to-the-manager-manager-bubble-gum-princess-adventure-time-gif-9822847

[cosmic pilot]

Nah, it's just a lack of situational awareness

Self awareness?

[thin lotus]

It buys them some time, kinda like ptes

[ornate python]

Yea it’s like blaming your waitress because the restaurant is short staffed

[thin lotus]

thats all it is

[neat urchin]

They don’t even use the feedback from those lol

[hidden current]

Thank you for sharing your feedback about the recent update. We understand that some changes have impacted your gameplay experience, and we're listening carefully to your concerns. Our team is actively reviewing the issues you've raised and working on improvements to make the game more enjoyable for everyone. Please keep your reports coming, and we appreciate your patience and continued support as we work on a hotfix!

[twilit citrus]

add worms to HLL

[atomic pendant]

Delaying an update is always the right move if it's not ready, and anyone who complains about that is a moron.

[thin lotus]

thats my point

[sturdy bridge]

@worthy charm is this why my female friend terry was banned?

[analog apex]

I blame the restauraunt

[neat urchin]

Good point 😂

[analog apex]

aka dev team in general

[silk igloo]

Back when the QA team still existed and reported bug fixes, most of them were things I had never experienced myself or heard anyone else complain about, yet common bugs have remained for years. Cover 6 studio came and went, the trailer was a mess... it feels like T17 has been scammed by contractors or something

[neat urchin]

We all been arguing tho with them for 4+ years on the same crap, never gunna change, new game is going to be no different

[cosmic pilot]

You just called the majority of the playerbase morons 😆
Which I'd agree.

[analog apex]

yeah, it's been like they are making some "bugs" up just to fill the fixes list somehow so it doesn't look empty. Because the most obvious and annoying bugs always remain.

[thin scarab]

Yeah its been years now. Im just gonna give up and Play other Games

[thin lotus]

U19 next month!

[neat urchin]

Everyone does lol

[neat urchin]

Delayed till 2026

Or never coming lol

[atomic pendant]

Am I wrong? Lol

[neat urchin]

Bf6

[main harness]

Yo can I get VIP x

[analog apex]

they can't be even serious about it 😄

like how on Earth could they deliver it after this setback

[atomic pendant]

Come help seed

[main harness]

Tried but my game crashed 😭

[past veldt]

I genuinely think they might not release anything after Smolensk. This dev team are surely getting battered by the big bad management for this release

[gritty glen]

hello

[atomic pendant]

Haha full circle

[analog apex]

...but I am sure they will... once again no matter the U19 quality, it will be out "on schedule"

[molten sail]

why is terry banned?

[twilit citrus]

dw the Finland and Poland war theater stuff they teased us with when taking over is about to drop any moment
and that great game mode "skirmish" totally wasn't a horrible idea from the start and is about to bring in hundred thousands of more casual oriented players!

[main harness]

I think that nothing will be updated til U19... thats my fear tbh

[thin lotus]

for real though, these updates' feedback is far more entertaining than the game

[wind shore]

How dare liberals.

it's seems fake or ragebyte

[gritty glen]

I dont know, im just making sure shes free again

[obtuse dragon]

Dude, I just got a match on Stalingrad with a squad full of asian cheaters on the enemy team, What am I even supposed to do against that 😭

[analog apex]

the problem is, they (the casuals) don't seem to want to play it either

[thin scarab]

Naah they gonna bring a Hotfix. Just have to wait 14 days

[gritty glen]

we are not really friends but if she got banned wasn't deserved 🤝

[analog apex]

or a month

[molten sail]

https://tenor.com/view/mc-conaughey-true-detective-inspecting-gif-5485634

[main harness]

Send them a link to ESPT discord so they can play comp

[obtuse dragon]

There was a point where i managed to sneak up behind one of them and he aimlocked at me while reloading

[twilit citrus]

shocking! 😱
not like I said that already the day they introduced us to that idea (arguing against half this discord)

just scrap it already instead of wasting more time on it
if anything turn it into a seeding mode for servers
that eventually turns into regular warfare

[wind shore]

It's outdated news seems like, old

[analog apex]

same here, all sane people knew how SKIRMISH was going to end up in that state - if it was good at least for seeding, it could be useful. But it is not.

[obtuse dragon]

And like, we couldn't do anything because they all had stg's and an mg42 mowing us down from across the map

We couldn't kill them, kick them, we couldn't do literally anything

[wind shore]

from 2022

[vestal loom]

Its very true my friend

[molten sail]

Exactly how HLL was intended to be played.

[vestal loom]

Its 2 years old

[wind shore]

you remember how Ubisoft went into scandal with the news

[gritty glen]

@molten sail Have you decided to take the challenge?

[obtuse dragon]

I Just noticed how friendly hll (the game not the community) can be for cheaters

[vestal loom]

The conflict between management and employees over MetaWorms also revealed long-term complaints over low pay, long overtime hours, and increasing workloads since the company's 2018 IPO. Under pressure to sign and clear more publishing deals, various teams, including quality assurance (QA) and user research felt that products were being shipped in an incomplete, rushed, or buggy state due to the time crunch.[38] Staff felt underpaid relative to the salaries of equivalent roles at other studios and some complained of unpaid overtime work. They also pointed to their year-end bonus being cut in 2021 despite the company announcing a record profit that year. Another source of conflict was the human resources (HR) department, which was accused of covering for sexual harassers and manipulating the company's reviews on Glassdoor, a job search website. They likewise took issue with Bestwick's management as CEO, for being a major source of overtime pressure and for turning a blind eye to harassment in the company.[38] Fanbyte corroborated these testimonies in its own reporting.[39]

[cosmic pilot]

We got the most boring version of skirmish because the server owners didn't know what they wanted.

[molten sail]

The challenge is too much.....

[obtuse dragon]

Like, we couldn't do anything against them besides hoping that the enemy team tried to kick them, But they didn't and since they were a squad we literally couldn't counter them in any way

[cosmic pilot]

Imagine saying, i have this desire.
Then pointing at this thing and saying, this will satisfy my desire.
Then getting it and saying, this isn't what I wanted.

[analog apex]

yeah, they should have listened to me instead 😜

[obtuse dragon]

And we only noticed they were cheating thanks to them not being subtle at all with their aim

[cosmic pilot]

No, me.

[twilit citrus]

not just for cheaters
HLL is the most griefable game I've ever played
if you really wanna be a d*ck it's so easy to ruin a game for 49 (or even 99) players

thank god any officer can now destroy his own teams nodes, just what we needed!

[finite berry]

No, me.

[analog apex]

yup. Despite we 2 may not agree on mechanics suggestions in general, I am sure either of us would be able to design a gamemode that would be nice for seeding and low numbers.

SKIRMISH shouldn't have ever been a full 50v50 thing anyway... too much people, fighting over once circle

pure grind... even if one flanks, ends up inevitably right in there

[thin lotus]

"Objective mode" just fizzled into the wind lmao

[analog apex]

let's hope so

I don't want to see it ever again and would rather like to merge its concepts with OFFENSIVE or WARFARE instead (TNT, physical objectives)

[dusty bolt]

This update is the objective mode

The objective: don't crash

[obtuse dragon]

Obpeak mode

[thin lotus]

😱

[obtuse dragon]

The objectives gamemode would genuinely open the doors to the game for an insane amount of content

[cosmic pilot]

You are correct. But, we can't have nice things.

[analog apex]

sadly 🙁

[obtuse dragon]

Imagine playing as the british paratroopers trying to destroy the Bridges of river dives

[cosmic pilot]

And now we have server commands that enforce seeding rules automatically

So the server owners got what the wanted, and took away from us something that would've been nice

[analog apex]

they are not perfect however - if the seeding rule breakers are persistent or at least 3, the C-rcon doesn't help as there are delays

[echo karma]

Nah imagine playing as 1 lone American pathfinder a few pyher guys holding the remegan bridge and ultimately blowing it up

[analog apex]

so many times 4th line gets capped during seeding even under C-rcon automated rules

[silk igloo]

it's 50 players for 1200 meters still.

[echo karma]

Huge fail imo too not making a skirmish a seed mode. Need a separate server for it?!?

[analog apex]

because the C-rcon seeding auto-rules are forced to use only what they can to identify if a player is in the 4th line or not - the match state and what kind of score the player is getting... and that is obtained not more often than 1x per minute - a lot of time to break the seeding and cap the 4th (or kill a seeding garri)

[analog apex]

no, no separate server needed, but it doesn't matter... it's just useless gamemode

[obtuse dragon]

The objectives gamemode needs to happen, it would be cool, fun and would probably get the attention of more players

[echo karma]

Scrapped I believe or turned into skirmish?

Nothing came of that trailer.

[obtuse dragon]

It was shown at the start of this year and since It wasn't on the roadmap it's probably on the waiting line

[thin lotus]

players who dont understand they are in a server that's currently seeding are the same people who speedrun winning pte games when there's only 5 players in it.
these people drive. these people can vote

[silk igloo]

they did PTE a few different objective modes. it was interesting since it showed that they could splice the blue/red zones as they liked

[obtuse dragon]

If they focus on making the objective gamemode the roadmap wouldn't have been completed

[echo karma]

Take the roadmap with a grain of salt. They often times don't deliver or just make a new map

[analog apex]

it didn't rly played any good in the PTE though... too fast matches.

just make physical objectives a part of OFFENSIVE

[obtuse dragon]

Even better

[thin lotus]

that's not really much different than just getting into the sp circle for offensive though

[echo karma]

I believe there are multiple modes they could make as battfield has done it already. And this being bassicly a clone. Where rush, breakthroughs etc

[obtuse dragon]

I know, I saw the 2022 roadmap 😔

[analog apex]

imagine... if the circle would become cappable only after fulfilling the physical objective set in the line

[echo karma]

50 player rush would go hard

[obtuse dragon]

But most of the times some things aren't completed on the roadmap due to time, resources and ideas

[silk igloo]

a common problem in all HLL modes is that it only takes one person to capture, destroy garris, objective, anything, and they can try again and again until they succeed.

[thin lotus]

ifyouve got the circle locked down as attackers, adding an extra step of planting a bomb or w/e isn't going to drastically change anything about how players on both sides are interacting with the active objective zone

[hidden current]

Please no more modes.. Like skirmish? Less than 1% of players are playing Skirmish. They can't implement things properly. Waste of resources. Stick to fixing things

[echo karma]

Even there direct competitors have like mini game modes for attack the bunkers on d day

[obtuse dragon]

I think How it was handled on the PTE wasn't really good, the AA guns weren't a really good defensive point

[thin lotus]

it is too volatile given the amount of players that are in the game. I've said this forever. It's more felt in warfare given the the traversal freedom both teams have

[obtuse dragon]

That's why I feel like the gamemode would work with a bigger objective like, for example, a bridge

[echo karma]

I agree. They have shown they cannot implement new ideas. We shall see with V

[silk igloo]

They should just make a warfare that's only 400-600 meters wide. No more cheesing

[analog apex]

or even better - make the physical objectives to have some impact

• destroy AAs or attackers air support not available in some radius around it
• clear the obstacles on the beach /minefield to get tanks available
• destroy a radio station to temporarilly shut down enemy team's command comms
• destroy enemy fuel depot - to subtract some portion of enemy fuel resource
  etc.

[echo karma]

It would be cool to limit how far regular troops could go behind enemy lines like other modes with recon. Tanks would be very campy tho

[obtuse dragon]

Imagine if the game gets stuff like the game tannenberg, yk, "if you have this objective you gain certain Buff"

[sturdy bridge]

@cyan saddle whats your favorite?

[dusty bolt]

@thin lotus we appoint you to new CM

[analog apex]

sry I don't know Tannenberg

but I get the idea - that would be my idea for the physical objectives in that case as I stated above, as well

buff for our team or a nerf for the enemy

[worthy charm]

We dont get fun things

[analog apex]

nope

[echo karma]

I assume the code is just so scuffed they can't do anything with it. Hence we'll see vietnam in a better state hopefully. Underground garrisons is already a stretch no? Very different than other games

[hasty ore]

I'd die for physical objectives. But i'll settle for using a bazooka like artillery <:

[worthy charm]

One day they will but the luchs or at least I dream of it

[obtuse dragon]

Ok so, tannenberg Is a ww1 game which was made by the guys that did isonzo

On the game you have to capture objectives, and every objective captured gives your team a Buff (More ammo when spawning in certain objective, less Respawn time, less call-in cooldown, etc)

[echo karma]

No luchs in Vietnam

[sturdy bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[hasty ore]

someone mentioned Isonzo?
-Aggressive Italian Men singing in Main Menu-

[obtuse dragon]

Avanti Savoia 🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[thin lotus]

HLL has this weird dichotomy where it clearly has systems that encourages and necessitate players from both teams to be in close proximity active objectives, like strongpoints, but it also has combat systems (infantry combat) where it's damn near impossible to do anything if you have close to 50 guns in both teams fighting for the same area.

It's a distinction where it makes it so that games are not determined by which team is better, but by which team is the first one to screw up. That isn't satisfying gameplay. Much more often than not, you'd just be playing a game, then because of a few choice "moves," the game is over. It's way too volatile. You consistently get "what even happened in this match?" games played.

[echo karma]

Tired of wasting my breath tbh. Been 3 yrs almost 4 now and nothing.

[analog apex]

omg my main 4K monitor just died 😵

[sturdy bridge]

this is quite literally a skill issue, and couldnt be more wrong

[echo karma]

Garrisons win games period

[worthy charm]

Buy a new one then :}

[obtuse dragon]

"go back to defense 🗣️🔥🔥🔥*

[sturdy bridge]

op's

[hasty ore]

HLL is like a ham n swiss sammich. It might not be a toasted panini, but it's also not just a piece of bread. I always return to it and play it HARD for a few months between breaks.

[echo karma]

That too

[obtuse dragon]

I once got a match where a huge chunk of my team tried to cap a locked point

[twilit citrus]

imagine instead of talking about adding more disfunctional gamemodes that Team17 can't get done right anways
we just have some bug free improved version of warfare with more good maps
crazy thought eh
It's been a downhill ride since late 2022

same with all that "but historical accuracy" talk
I wish all those people had teamed up together, built a time travel machine and frozen to death in historical accurate Stalingrad
instead of trying to take any fun out of my favourite video game

[echo karma]

Every single match on console

[thin lotus]

"just play better" is the biggest cope as a rebuttal to me explaining what is inherently wrong with the games flawed gameplay design.
You are not understanding the assignment.

[worthy charm]

It started sooner

[obtuse dragon]

historically inaccurate Stalingrad isn't fun, they butchered pavlov's house 😔

[hybrid sage]

for not using the correct emojis for the situation

[sturdy bridge]

🤪

[echo karma]

We don't talk about el Amanda in here yall

[analog apex]

gimme money then 😄

[worthy charm]

I rather dont, im also poor

and sad

[echo karma]

Dunno why they didn't give it the smdm touch? That was best rework yet

[sturdy bridge]

unban my friend, she is also sad and who wouldnt want to alleviate that?

[twilit citrus]

I mourn overr old pavlov's house not because of historic accuracy but bc it was also better gameplay wise

[molten sail]

understandable & rightfully deserved.

[molten sail]

there are 4 pavlov houses now

[analog apex]

that makes 2 of us

[molten sail]

4x the fun!

[thin lotus]

Pavlovs' houses

[obtuse dragon]

And like, ngl, it would be better to have an MKB for the veteran german auto rifleman instead of an MP-40, historically accurate and way better

[analog apex]

and neither of them looks like the actual Pavlov's house 😄

[twilit citrus]

yeah right next to each other
with 3 more of the exact same on the map
in fact house of the workers and pavlovs house are now the same

[echo karma]

Gutted that map lol its bad period. Germans still have the high ground

My only guess is that house attributeed to alot of the lag. Alot

[thin lotus]

☝️ 🤓 "HLL has accurate maps"

[molten sail]

pavlov just needed more property to expand his stuttering business

[hybrid sage]

court martialed by the roleplayers 🦅

[analog apex]

nothing can be done about that... we can't change the topography

[obtuse dragon]

Wdym he got evicted

[meager timber]

Love the constant fatal errors. Nice update

[echo karma]

They did it on remegan lol its wayy scalled down

[twilit citrus]

entering pavlov's house through the hole in the cellar and then clearing the building floor by floor was hella fun

[echo karma]

Pak gun raining hell down. Ahhh the times

[worthy charm]

Remagen worst map of BM frfr

[hybrid sage]

The soliders in WW2 lost connection to host, do you not remember this from school?

[molten sail]

if the dont lose connection to host you are commiting fail rp

[analog apex]

is it? I never examined that. I don't like the map in relation to the gamemode anyway so I barely play it. With unlimited respawns it's just a bridge stalemate grind and then there is the breaking stupid airhead and stupid nonBridge middle objective strongpoint locations that favour one or the other side depending on which side of the river.

[echo karma]

Yeah it's nothing like the actual maps of that time period. Great concept like dday kinda

[meager timber]

True. T17 simulating lack of sleep with this one

[obtuse dragon]

Now red orchestra has a more historically accurate pavlov's house 😔

[echo karma]

Yeah the bridge is wayyy farther down. The city massive and the hill is not around there

[obtuse dragon]

wait, i think it always had a historically accurate house

[echo karma]

Had hoped to see battle of colonge map. Now that would be cool. Has a church too

Long sight lines. Urban combat. Bridge and huge church.

Hopeful they just dump mod support on us when V comes out

Unlikely tho. They won't let servers owners customize anything

300k que rip

[lucid gazelle]

Is the tank gameplay still slop or half-decent now?

[west berry]

fatal error 4 today in 2 sessions,its unplayable for me now

[faint portal]

I feel like there was a YouTube video a while back that showed a breakdown/comparison to that map specifically and u do recall that hill being fairly far from the bridge too

[faint portal]

Before or after U18

[lucid gazelle]

Currently

[echo karma]

I know you can look at period specific topography maps and maps of the city/bridge etc. It's scaled down alot

[faint portal]

Worse

[lucid gazelle]

Sad times

[finite berry]

Crowley, what are you even doing here, get back to wörk on Chapter Red :D ❤️

[lucid gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-crying-gif-15896901980625544793

[finite berry]

Heh, I just want more good stuff (:

[lucid gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/blender-3d-modeling-is-easy-gif-25689689

[cosmic pilot]

Can confirm

[faint portal]

Remember the last time you played hell let loose. Think about that compenent in tanking where you could go from point A to point B. I think that mechanic is called "driving" or something 🤔

Yeah well they must have patched that out in this update bc it was too OP

[fiery ibex]

I hate this f****** game

[lucid gazelle]

Just give me an in-depth armour system and I'd play it.

[finite berry]

I get the feeling that Wellsy was behind this tank update

[lucid gazelle]

And modding tools, but that is beside the point.

[finite berry]

By the looks of it, the game will probably become only more arcade, so I don't think that will happen anytime soon 🙃

[faint portal]

You don't even have to watch the video, just see the thumbnail
That's what it's like

https://youtu.be/_DrccvvcJVc?si=RYS5fBZMfjXgvFql

[lucid gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/sigh-homelander-the-boys-exhale-relieved-gif-15406600715060657123

[finite berry]

nah, stop telling nonsense Raz, he should watch the entire video, it's great

'twas a compliment

[night lark]

Oh boi, the update not going well then? Watched Raz’s video last night about it

[faint portal]

I will say my favorite line I said was "you advertise in the patch notes that tanks can get in and out of trenches, but what you didn't show is before and after that trench is you hit everything along the way"

[finite berry]

Same, and now I'm watching Fresh's video

[analog apex]

I think vids are not allowed in here... but who cares, I am gonna watch 😄

[cosmic pilot]

🙄
It's obviously not intended behavior.
And complaining about it as if it was will cause the devs to revert the good changes that were intentional.
And everyone complained about the old driving physics.
So good job encouraging us to go back to square one

[night lark]

I also need to watch Fresh’s video

[finite berry]

Yep 😄

[finite berry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4bAGeotr5k

[faint portal]

I snuck it in hehe but truly you don't even need to watch it. Like literally the thumbnail tells you everything 🤣

[finite berry]

here

[night lark]

Thanks fam

[analog apex]

I know, still... eager to see the details 🙂

and hear

[faint portal]

Good watch
Fresh is far less heated than I was. He's more defeated after all the server issues 😅😅

[night lark]

My eyes are being assaulted by an optometrist rn so will watch when in making dinner later

[finite berry]

However, I will say that U18 succeeded at one thing. It united HLL's community which is a pretty remarkable achievement 😄

[faint portal]

[night lark]

Oh yeah the server issues have been a mess. RCON has gone nuts

[finite berry]

LMFAO

[night lark]

Apparently VIP rewards are causing issues nows

[finite berry]

I like how Fresh starts the video with "yeah, so I'm gonna give my honest feedback, anyway, Update 18 is a piece of sh it"

Had to chuckle

[finite berry]

???? How?

[lucid gazelle]

You still get winter uniforms on summer maps or is that no longer a thing? Been a minute.

[supple ferry]

@kind jewel’s video was good too

[finite berry]

Still a thing

[finite berry]

Already watched that one yesterday :D good video

[night lark]

Bro idk, HLL just has a butterfly effect

[lucid gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-steve-carell-the-office-cringe-gif-17778800

[finite berry]

same

[night lark]

3/4 SLB servers crashed last Tuesday

[finite berry]

In fact, it got even worse with new skin DLCs dropping. Oi, @pine ember, feel free to provide some details to Crowley.

[night lark]

Didnt help steam got DDoS right before it

[finite berry]

Yeah, unfortunate timing really

Or plot twist, T17 is behind the DDoS attack

[worthy charm]

Its getting wyld in here

[pine ember]

Cossack DLC uniform for normal infantry soldiers... So they are mixed into a regular infantry squad and dont even have a horse

JUST ADD SUBFACTIONS!!!

[finite berry]

^^ @lucid gazelle

[analog apex]

and a little advertisement of mine as well - feel free to give me a if you agree or 👎 if not
#1425919813129076788 message

[finite berry]

So yeah, like I said, it got even worse

[pine ember]

ROA DLC... They werent present on any map in the game in that form, were barely fighting irl (they basically just retreated and committed war crimes), and they were not mixed into regular German squads

I was already critical about the Pea Dot DLC, but atleast that was used in a large quantity and makes sense on a decent amount of maps. ROA and Cossack one dont, they are too specific to be in this game

[finite berry]

Oh, would you look at that. Hotfix next week.

[pine ember]

"It’ll focus on addressing some of the most pressing issues you've raised since the update went live" Yea, hopefully...

[cosmic pilot]

Too specific to be in a video game

[pine ember]

Yes. It just doesnt make sense seeing everyone in the team in a different uniform, especially if half of the uniforms were barely used at all or are just misplaced

[cosmic pilot]

You're wrong but okay.

[pine ember]

In what way?

[cosmic pilot]

The game does not enforce a military structure onto the players and therefore doesn't have to enforce a military dress code

[crimson crown]

Has the game been fixed?

[pine ember]

Yes, but these uniforms still make no sense

[cosmic pilot]

Okay and.

[heady escarp]

I just want for tanks to stop being laggy and a full black screen when dead with no one telling you who killed you.

Looks like cod

[crimson crown]

YES, I want to fight with tank tops and shorts

[finite berry]

No. Hotfix next week, unspecified when exactly.

[pine ember]

A game that wants to be "historical accurate" shouldnt feature them, or atleast not on every map

[crimson crown]

Are they going to roll back the version or just fix?

[lucid gazelle]

You still get STGs and Panthers on Stalingrad, right?

[cosmic pilot]

You wanting the game to be historically accurate doesn't matter

[finite berry]

What the hell is that argument lmfao. HLL still portrays historical armies in historical battles AND claims to be somewhat historically accurate, so it should stay faithful to proper uniforms.

[finite berry]

Just fix, obvioulsy.

[pine ember]

It is not only me. Its the devs themselves that say "HLL is accurate."

[pine ember]

Exactly

[finite berry]

Folks? ⬆️ I can't answer that

[pine ember]

No Panther anymore

[crimson crown]

Good

[wind shore]

why were you critical about pea dot? its nice camo 🤷‍♂️

[finite berry]

And StG?

[crimson crown]

The german comand uniform is so drippy

[cosmic pilot]

The argument boils down to this.
Adding the context for the uniforms to be shown at all is massively disproportionate to adding the uniforms themselves.
If you want to see niche WW2 uniforms that did exist you'll have to accept not having 1 pentabite in maps to get the right context

[pine ember]

Because it is not accurate for someone in a regular Wehrmacht squad to have that. A Waffen-SS subfaction would be more accurate. But since it was used in a big quantity I dont mind it that much.

[cosmic pilot]

See above

[wind shore]

squad44 does that

[finite berry]

Squad 44 mentioned

https://tenor.com/view/dog-doggo-smiling-cute-pet-gif-17869715

[dusty bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/personally-i-wouldnt-let-that-slide-gif-26085972

[echo karma]

Why bot send out tele?

[night lark]

Carentan you can change all the Germans to Fallschrimjager and make no changes. Driel could all be SS and no changes

[pine ember]

"If you want to see niche WW2 uniforms that did exist you'll have to accept not having 1 pentabite in maps to get the right context." Well, the question is how many want them. Its only a small portion (Kedo) of the community. It simply doesnt fit with their idea what HLL should be. If they say it shall be accurate, these uniforms shouldnt be in the game. End of discussion. HLL never was about fancy and unique skins until T17 took over. Yes, there were skins before, but they all were accurate and were seen on the battlefields we have in the game. Something like ROA is just out of place

[pine ember]

Yes

[finite berry]

Guys? StG on Stalingrad or not?

[pine ember]

Its still there

[finite berry]

Thanks, cc @lucid gazelle

[lofty anvil]

They best revert the entire update then🙃

[azure heath]

Do Europeans have off work for Columbus day?

[cosmic pilot]

Now obviously there are regional limits that shouldn't be exceeded because it could confuse or contradict faction theme/identity.
Like having Pacific marine uniforms in Normandy.
But, adding the uniforms at all is good in the sense that the right content could be added at any point later

[finite berry]

Reverting an update often isn't as easy and as good as people claim it to be. Keep in mind that the update also brought a sh itload of bug fixes

[wind shore]

do u guys think devs should give us workshop for maps etc?

[azure heath]

No

[finite berry]

What the hell is Columbus day

[pine ember]

Fun fact, these arent Pacific Marine uniforms. And just adding new (inaccurate) uniforms wont help the game at all

[azure heath]

Should, yes. Sorry.

But will we ever get it, no.

[azure heath]

Figured. We celebrate the mass genocide of indigenous peoples in the US

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-very-poor-choice-words-gif-22861860

[lofty anvil]

Eh, update sucks. Armour should be reverted along with the contextual repairs

[lucid gazelle]

Give modding tools please.

[finite berry]

No, we don't have that, I didn't even know that existed. So it's a US-only thing

[wraith thistle]

Has the latest version of the game done anything with regards to cheating?

[pine ember]

ROA does contradict in a lot of ways. The uniform we have is from a unit raised in the last months of the war which wasnt even at the frontline and fighting. They were just retreating. The cossacks are missing horses. Having them in a regular infantry squad is just confusing

[azure heath]

I knew it was. Just wondered if yall even knew ab it, but seems not

[finite berry]

T17 says parachuting won't be a thing because the ✨ engine can't handle it ✨, so I wouldn't hold high hopes for modding tools

[pine ember]

Huh what?

[finite berry]

Again, not as easy and as good as you claim it to be

[lofty anvil]

What about parachuting in Vietnam?

[azure heath]

Do you guys know who Christopher Columbus is?

[lofty anvil]

Not once have I claimed it to be easy? Stfu

[finite berry]

Was there even paradropping in Vietnam?

[lost oxide]

lol u have faith in vietnam after this update

[finite berry]

You kinda when saying "just revert the update instead of fixing it lmao".

[pine ember]

No

[azure heath]

Okay, that’s where it stems from

[finite berry]

Of course we do.

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills-vegetables-gif-15621481

[azure heath]

I think Europeans are very misinformed and miseducated

sorry have to go back on you for hating American’s education

[celest nymph]

Yo Greg how we doing this morning

[lofty anvil]

Well theres heli's, not gonna be any fun if its going down and youre just stuck along for the ride

[finite berry]

I see the point

Hmm, all I know is that paradrops definitely ARE possible in UE4

[lofty anvil]

Good point

[analog apex]

I feel attacked by that statement right now 🤨

[finite berry]

With UE5, they definitely should be able to do it

But it's T17 we're talking about here

[azure heath]

You see how we feel?

[analog apex]

how and why?

[azure heath]

Yk the saying that “Americans are dumb”

[analog apex]

I never said that, nor I feel that way 🙂

[lofty anvil]

I'd say more ignorant about the rest of the world than dumb but either way, if the shoe fits

[finite berry]

No one here said that lol

[analog apex]

if I can say anything about the Americans, it's that they are patriots - feels like every US household has at least 1 American flag

[azure heath]

I know not all of yall say that, but people just like bringing other people down for no reason

[azure heath]

I don’t 🫥

[analog apex]

aaaah

you are not a proper American then heh

but yeah, I don't have an SVK flag at home either

[finite berry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/538055883075354637/1426237702361059338/image.png?ex=68ea7ede&is=68e92d5e&hm=48cf7002e2323c3baf2519741aebd2edad8a273a10456dd276029a2a175eaf2b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

Panzerschreck in North Africa, love to see it 🥲

[azure heath]

Actually, for fourth of july we have decorations based on the flag but no flag or flagpole

[analog apex]

already more than we have on our important national days... almost nobody cares here xD

[lofty anvil]

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 my flag is better🤐🤣

[analog apex]

we are too busy surviving till the next wage payout, no time for important national day decorations

[azure heath]

Out of all the countries I’ve been to, Denmark seems to be the most proud of their nation. At least by their flags being at every home.

[pine ember]

I have that at home

[azure heath]

Ah, the Belgian flag

(don’t kill me)

[worthy charm]

I dont think any german would ever kill you for this.

Cant say the same for people for belgium tho :}

[atomic pendant]

My tank sticker has never been more appropriate than U18 lol

[frail heart]

BF6 tonight anyone?

[worthy charm]

Sadly...

[azure heath]

Nah. Game is kinda doo doo.

[finite berry]

based

[worthy charm]

Whats better server crashes or server queues?

[azure heath]

Queues. Not like Hell Let Loose doesn’t have those.

[finite berry]

Crashing while being in queue?

[worthy charm]

The perfect inbetween

https://tenor.com/view/perfectly-balanced-infinity-war-thanos-balance-all-things-should-be-balanced-gif-16273067

[echo karma]

Operation torch

[frail heart]

Team17 brand new "game breaking update" see yous next week

[echo karma]

Lol and has the bf5 music

[frail heart]

Gonna miss my comp match 🙁

[past veldt]

Willes, can we get the 🫂 emote on the announcements?

[worthy charm]

I cant do emotes in telegrams sorry

[past veldt]

Thousands of players will not be playing HLL on Sunday and instead will play something else

[past veldt]

I'll harass Ben when he's back from holiday

[frail heart]

Maybe this is the stance we need! 🙂

[past veldt]

It's the least they can do for us

[frail heart]

Show them who really keeps there broken game alive

[night lark]

Americans celebrating Columbus discovering americastan

[past veldt]

For sure. Like I know HCA is postponing 17 matches. A console league is postponing 14 games. How many scrims are being postponed?

[frail heart]

Ive got 3 matches at HBL so 300 players there

ECL yet to cancel?

[past veldt]

ECL is on a break afaik

A lot of teams play double headers though, so will cancel their scrims on Saturday I guess

So we're probably looking at like 3500 people not playing HLL because the servers are unstable

[frail heart]

Id gestimate 3000-4000 easily which is basically the HLL population on a good day

[fleet flicker]

good job we are still playing that game as a friendly then 😉

[frail heart]

I aint playing no broken game

[past veldt]

But comp is pointless and the Devs don't care about us 🫂

[frail heart]

WATP (We are the people)

[gilded spade]

Just roll it back

[frail heart]

Youd think that but 10 team17 devs only point to 1 spark between them

[grizzled kiln]

Can't ,they are on vacay ❤️

https://tenor.com/view/hammock-beach-gif-13571534

[frail heart]

Defo a office trip "October fest"

[wind shore]

They will be back when the community dies out and ask where everyone went

[grizzled kiln]

Nah, don't count on it

[cosmic pilot]

Yes

[worthy charm]

Sorry, but thats already over

[frail heart]

I want pics😎

[dusty bolt]

#1425321217329467462 - still applies

[worthy charm]

I wasnt there, you think Im a bavarian?!?!

Thats offensive

[gilded spade]

I will not say they can’t take any vacation but this not like in school anymore when you submit an half finished assignment and say “yeah, well next time I’ll do beter”

[gilded spade]

You’re saying that they coded U18 half drunk?

[worthy charm]

I dont know... but Oktober fest ended a few days ago. Its not September anymore.

[frail heart]

I reckon the devs are having a massive lan party Battlefield 6 style @dusty bolt

[grizzled kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/true-its-true-dwight-schrute-the-office-rainn-wilson-gif-6161302

[blissful ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/slide-drift-crash-fail-gif-16909243

[amber latch]

Anyone know a good MIC ONLYYYYYYYY community/server?

[past veldt]

literally does not exist

[amber latch]

that's........

yeah, and the only mic only servers are like german

[past veldt]

It's unenforcable so it doesnt exist

[amber latch]

fair enough, make it enforceable trust

[past veldt]

Youd need to join a competitive community and get into events

[amber latch]

Yup, know any good ones?

[slate canopy]

You could always be a squad lead, lock it and require a microphone to join.

[past veldt]

Can you link HCA please Polarbear?

Unfortunately we do not have these permissions anymore

[slate canopy]

HCA?

[past veldt]

The current HLL PC tournament

I tried but it is automodded out

[slate canopy]

One moment I think we have a guide that would include that..

[past veldt]

Altbergs comp video to the rescue

[past veldt]

Once we get the guide posted, I'd recommend just hitting up the HLL Tournaments and picking a team in your region

[slate canopy]

All the links to the competitive stuff (at least that was shared by Altberg)

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1273956824491491349

HCA is in that.

[blazing shoal]

Both ecl and hca are suspending their games until hot fixes. Everyone going to bf6 to enjoy themselves. Watch numbers drop a thousand or so over the weekend for hll

[past veldt]

Console tournaments too

but still, its the best way to get into a proper game of HLL

[blazing shoal]

Its the only way not to crash midway

[past veldt]

Nah, greyhound night had a bunch of people crashing mid game unfortunately

[slate canopy]

Funny enough, I'm hoping to play a little bit today before dinner 🤭 Haven't had the chance yet.

[blazing shoal]

Our practice server crashed twice today

And main servers a few times already

[worthy charm]

Today now that I cant... 😭

[silk igloo]

U18 and BF6 launch failing tremendously wasnt on my bingo card

[worthy charm]

Driving stuart with Polarbearr could have been peek

[slate canopy]

You want to play with me? 🥺

[blazing shoal]

At least you can drive it. Unlike one specific tank I wont be naming

[worthy charm]

Failing because of a waiting queue?

[finite berry]

Bf6 launch failed?

[silk igloo]

it doesnt recognize that i've bought and installed it

[worthy charm]

I dont know if that is enough honestly, but I heard the story is kinda boring

[worthy charm]

Of course but Im at my parents place today so I cant play HLL well.

[past veldt]

cant play that either

[worthy charm]

The internet here is bad and I only got my notebook

[silk igloo]

at least i could play U18! godddamnnnhn

[past veldt]

have to get onto the servers to play the single player campaign 💀

[worthy charm]

MUHAHAHA SO U18 IS BETTER THAN BF6!!!

[silk igloo]

factually correct

[worthy charm]

Evil laughter

[slate canopy]

Ahhhh okay. I, normally, am not on this time of the week. I worked a half day (6:30-10:30)

[worthy charm]

Those are evening times?

[slate canopy]

Morning lol

[worthy charm]

so 18:30 to 22:30?

ah ok

[slate canopy]

It's 12:30 for me so I already worked.

[worthy charm]

+7h for me :3

[worthy charm]

Laugh with me about the failed launch brotha!!!

-# xd I really just wanted to ping you

[wind shore]

really

[nocturne birch]

@sturdy bridge

[slate canopy]

Well I'm off the next two fridays. So maybe soon?

[stuck jackal]

A hot fix? Why don’t they just roll the update back and try again?

[worthy charm]

[gritty glen]

#freeterry

[wind shore]

it's not fall, BF6 release

[pine ember]

BF6 released and its good

[sturdy bridge]

0 issue with BF6...bozos

[covert elbow]

Because aside from the game breaking bugs this update is what they want

The tank changes and Stalingrad are things they planned to add to the game

[delicate mortar]

Maybe the devs were paid by the BF6 team just to throw HLL under the bus right for the release of the game

[gusty venture]

HLL don’t have that type of movement 😭

[delicate mortar]

Business is business

[finite berry]

Plus, don't forget the dozens of bug fixes

[wind shore]

Would yall slime t17 out for 1$

[finite berry]

Like, if you are building a house and it has some issues that you can fix, you are gonna do that instead of tearing the entire house down lmao

[echo karma]

Only 1 bug in campaign so far

[gusty venture]

[silk igloo]

i refunded on EA and bought it again on steam... zero issues. rephrasing, disastrous EA launch. steam gets my cut and EA is left dry

[covert elbow]

Was the launch not good?

[silk igloo]

it just refused to recognize that i had bought and installed the game on EA. they've mentioned this on their X

[covert elbow]

Explain

[echo karma]

If you have ea play on pc you get it fer free

[silk igloo]

The game app has it's own verification thing going on if you've bought it or not

[echo karma]

Backend servers going down is expected tbf. Beta held 1mill without servers on fire

[covert elbow]

Ooooh that thing

Okay I understand. Screw the EA app man, waste of time when I just want to launch it using steam

Ma’am this is the HLL server

[slate canopy]

Take to #off-topic-mess-hall .

[echo karma]

Wait till you find out you have to boot in secure

[dusty bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/but-i’m-not-original-gif-4077672862622552877

[echo karma]

Hello darkness my old friend

[broken shoal]

only maps my server run without problems. staligrand and carentan.

where is my hotfix

[slate canopy]

Take this chatting to #off-topic-mess-hall . Thanks.

[gusty venture]

Got ya hotfix right here, you just gotta give me 10 dollas

[past vortex]

just played stalingrad again, no lags

[tepid umbra]

I have crashed from the servers I've played on several times now with a message "lost connection to a host", never before the update have had this issue

[royal slate]

Heyo

[nova pivot]

👋

[royal slate]

Whatcha doing

[nova pivot]

Playing Driel

[worthy charm]

Ewwwww

[cunning forge]

Can’t find any reference to manpower changes in the patch notes so did they break it?

[nova pivot]

I'm playing as great Britain 🔥

[broken shoal]

4 days already and no hotfix.

[royal slate]

Never heard of

[wind shore]

They broke it all tf 😂

[nova pivot]

You are missing out

[worthy charm]

Driel is a non flanking tank map at times

[nova pivot]

Skill issue

Get gud

[worthy charm]

🥲

[obsidian storm]

The devs did it they made the game worse😂

Never happened to me before this update and all of a sudden im lagging out

[hazy owl]

Don't worry, we are in the testing phase at the moment

[wind shore]

hotfix is coming

devs do it, alr. Update it's well, after coming hotfix. Why not

it's in each game

[gilded spade]

I don’t know why you are kidding yourself. It is not well. By far from well.
How this update got through it I can’t understand. Why you would do such damage to your own game and future

[fringe hollow]

At this point let the comp players be the beta testers and get all the exploits for themselves, as long as we get a polished update

[wintry thistle]

you gotta buy it again silly

[main harness]

Comp players would push out balanced, fun stuff. You should see half the stuff people have found for this update already. The stuff that's posted here is obvious for the most part

I wonder when we will get a statement of the content of the hotfix. I'm not talking about the obvious game crash and server issues. The hotfix for this trash content update

What are they going to do. Tick tock. Taken too long to announce already

[grizzled kiln]

Just roll back to U9 at this point

[slate canopy]

But my flaaaaare

[finite berry]

Roll back to Early Access

https://tenor.com/view/its-so-over-its-so-over-cats-gif-10859953249626430962

[fringe hollow]

Which is the sad part. They would also gatekeep it harder than they do now. Competition kills true fun in favor of performance

[main harness]

Not really. Competitive games are the most fun part of HLL. You should try them out.

And if you can't shoot that well(no flame) then lower division teams or go to a less shooty role

[covert elbow]

No they wouldn’t. Comp players consistently use broken gameplay mechanics and glitches to play the game. Don’t kid yourself

[gilded spade]

But they build more than one garrisons tho

[fringe hollow]

I've wanted to do comp for a largescale team game, MMOs especially, but the few times I've tried have made me hate comp players. They would act higher than thou, minmax the fun out of any gameplay, and if your schedule didn't work out for the match you were kicked instantly like it was life or death.

[fringe hollow]

We just need to bully the people who SL and don't place garrisons until they do or quit

[covert elbow]

It’s why I never play comp and just want to do MilSim. Shame there’s basically none that actually do MilSim

And the ones that do aren’t what I’m looking for

[fringe hollow]

I imagine the perfect milsim being an arma 3 zeus op with a group

[echo karma]

They can't even fill a pte bro. I don't think anyone cares anymore

[fringe hollow]

I would GLADLY be a beta tester for things if it lines with my schedule

[echo karma]

Plus they try to play sneaky and put changes in the live version that's not even in the pte

[finite berry]

That still baffles me why they apparently did so little testing

[echo karma]

We are the testers

[hidden current]

@vale garnet statement?

[echo karma]

Literally same exact situation when they decided to sneak in a run speed change. Bricked the whole game

[fringe hollow]

I don't see why they don't communicate with the community more on these things. I can get wanting to surprise us with cool things but it would be WAY better if we worked together to make sure these things don't end up like this update

[echo karma]

Not like they had a feedback channel with everyone and there baby momma telling em what's up

Waiting a week for crash fixes is criminal tbh. Suprised they even have a playerbase left

[main harness]

The comp scene is the one place that bans these things. And often, reports them to the Devs who just never fix them lol

[covert elbow]

Not from what I’ve seen

[main harness]

Never seen this. Try a different comp team. Where did you try

[winter rover]

busy playing bf6

[finite berry]

Because they don't really care anymore and focus on Vietnam anyway, at least that's what a few people here are thinking

[finite berry]

Dude, I'm so tired of seeing Bf6 already, it's insane

It's everywhere, leave me alone, I don't care for it, BUT IT'S EVERYWHERE

[echo karma]

There dev team doubled in a year. About the same time vietnam development began

[winter rover]

lol ikr, it's a decent game but overhyped

[finite berry]

Absolutely!

Terribly overhyped

[echo karma]

Wait till you see them fanboys. They worse than hll

586k steam pretty good huh?

[fringe hollow]

I haven't tried HLL yet but the stigma already set in. I might give it a try if only to get a match of communication

[finite berry]

In comp or in general?

[fringe hollow]

comp

[slate canopy]

I mean, general you can still get good comms.

[obsidian storm]

Will south vietnam be added to hllv

[slate canopy]

I usually solo-queue. I'd said 90% of the time, comms are fine.

[fringe hollow]

Effective comms*. I hate having to look for the two squads on the team who aren't picking lint from each other's belly buttons(doing and saying nothing useful) in left field (locked sector) or no mic holding W into the blender nowhere near eachother.

[slate canopy]

"picking lint from each other's belly buttons" I laughed a little too much

I mean, sometimes it doesn't go well... and I usually leave that server and find somewhere else.

[pine hull]

Most of the HLL teams are really chill and "competitive HLL" is nowhere close to other actual competitive games. I'm currently playing for one of the Top 3 teams and the amount of competitiveness is hilarious compared to other games

So you shouldn't be too afraid of it. If you're interested, join a teams' discord and just apply

I'm sure a lot of teams would also accept you as a community-only player, if you want to start it slow

[gusty venture]

"Thank you again for your continued feedback"

https://tenor.com/view/crying-happy-but-sad-face-gif-19422780

[clear magnet]

anyone get BF6? and how you liking it?

[slate canopy]

Please talk of BF6 in #off-topic-mess-hall 🙂 Thanks!

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-covering-ears-meme-cat-covering-ears-gif-25257353

me when Bf6

[echo karma]

Don't forget to delete there messages

[errant moss]

Stalingrad looks and plays great. Can there be an option to turn off the siren that's nonstop
Thx

[gray lagoon]

I think you can turn down the sound effects noise in settings but that will also lower the sounds of gunshots and footsteps

[echo karma]

The vfx took a downgrade this patch too

Honestly they have to fix more things than the update introduced at this point

[pine hull]

turns phone off and continues to enjoy vacation 😂

[obtuse dragon]

... There was a siren?

https://tenor.com/view/freddy-fazbear-bear5-fnaf-five-nights-at-freddy's-me-when-i-get-you-gif-3436903932038453635

[cinder geyser]

the kill screen isn't good please revert back to what it was, some of your assets like the fire are bright as hell ( no pun intended ) its like you turned up the gamma too 100% theres a bit of lag on the map, and i have a pretty good rig, I believe you need to revert back a few things.

[wind shore]

Hotfix next week? Is that when the vacation is over?

[slate canopy]

It's just Ben that's on vacation, doesn't mean devs are. We can hope for early week. 😅

(Ben the Community Manager - as in the middle person between us and them)

[flint coyote]

We need Official T17 Servers for each Time zone. Servers that are owned privately are often controlled by admins that can be toxic and egotistical, and can ruin the game for many. There's different rules on each server, some, pretty harsh. We need default servers to allow a normal, safe place for newcomers and casuals, who aren't part of a clan, nor wish to partake in those sorts of political games within this game.

I'm ~ Level 180 in the game. Level 10 in every class. Not a noob. I know from experience. There aren't enough servers that are easy to join and there aren't many in my time zone, US-W that don't have absurd rules, toxic political crud always happening.

T17, I promise you, that's what this game needs in order to stay relevant and continue bringing in new players, and keeping casuals from getting fed up and leaving due to sever/clan politics. This is what the game needs, far more than new content. We need a place where everyone is welcome and equal, and bans aren't handled by one egotistical person but by T17 (or whatever management business you hire to handle it on your behalf).

Official servers, paid for, and managed by, T17.

[past vortex]

but how can they fix it without ben

[slate canopy]

But... there are official servers?

Although I did just check, on PC, and I only see 2 🤔 Interesting. (Correction, 2 populated)