mess-hall

[echo karma]

2027

[obtuse dragon]

Ngl the update doesn't feel that bad

[dusty bolt]

Thats if the server youre on doesnt crash or your game crashes

[obtuse dragon]

Most of the problems for me are performance issues on Stalingrad

Like, any other map Is 60

But Stalingrad suddenly into a slideshow

[remote plover]

In all fairness- they did have to clean through a lot of stuff from previous times…

[obtuse dragon]

Which isn't fun when using something like a Bolt action rifle, besides, it's almost impossible to make consecutive long range AT shots on Stalingrad due to that

And the new death screen takes away some of the realism of the black screen death, it was cool, sudden and... well...realistic

[echo karma]

The tanks feel noticeable worse than pre tu18

They did nothing with pte feedback at all

[obtuse dragon]

Unfortunately i wasn't able to play the PTE thanks to epic games, so i don't know how bad it was

[echo karma]

Reddit doesn't like the update at all. They butchered the luchs. Already the worst tank in the game lol

I like how they make such drastic changes with little to no testing at all. And then backtrack to reset all this bs

[covert elbow]

I understand that completely but the fact they decided to franchise and just make a new game rather than double down and fix the game is a stab in the back

[obtuse dragon]

Is there something that reddit likes? 😭

[echo karma]

Completely nerf and break armour for what reason? It was fine before

They have no concept of balance

We've seen thier interviews already. We know

[obtuse dragon]

but yeah the update was kinda bad, but not THAT bad to me atleast

[echo karma]

It's It's redundant update to say you did something. You introduce no new content. And fixed a map that nobody played or liked. And they still don't like it

They outta hire me so I can tell em there lazy af all day

Like what's the point of a heavy if it can't 1 shot a medium.

Ahh yeah I just got this giant gun for no reason.

[covert elbow]

Just give us realistic armor penetrations already

Make it so disabling a tank is just as good as destroying it

[feral vine]

This update sucks big veiny donger

[echo karma]

Whats the point in a heavy that can't 1 shot a medium? Why even call in a heavy

It can't even 1 shot other heavy for balance sake. It should 1 shot side armour period

Releasing penatration is wayy over the heads of this dev team. They can't even make the tanks not get stuck on branches

[steep iron]

I’m not a fan of the UI changes they made. Specifically the KIA screen. Feels too arcadie, and I don’t want to be reminded that I was killed 10 times by the same guy. Also the vote kick in the top right corner takes up too much of the screen imo

[echo karma]

I.e. this game is worse than Enlisted now

[obtuse dragon]

...

[covert elbow]

I like the “stayed alive” part but that’s what should be there only, personal stats. Not saying who and what you were killed by

[obtuse dragon]

ok so.. yeah no, it's impossible to be worse than enlisted

[feral vine]

All they needed to do is fix the bugs and stabilize servers

[obtuse dragon]

Like, dawg i ain't paying 60 dollars for a half track 😭

[echo karma]

Somehow they did it

Trucks can't resupply at HQ anymore lmao

[desert owl]

Underrated vehicle

[feral vine]

At least enlisted doesnt crash every 5 minutes. Theres that

[echo karma]

This update is worse than British faction by a mile

[covert elbow]

Wait what????

Your kidding me

[feral vine]

This update is worse than when they increased sprint speed

[obtuse dragon]

yes, it should be 90 dollars instad of 60

[echo karma]

The coupla is a known defect of every tiger and panther yet in this game its just a model

[obtuse dragon]

answered the wrong message smh

[desert owl]

Oop

[echo karma]

Yeah apparently bugged but I think it's a feature. Why change that?

[feral vine]

Wtf why

[echo karma]

Idk. My only logic is you can scrap destroyed vehicles now.

[obtuse dragon]

yeah it would be better if it crashed, it would be more fun to read the crash log than playing the game

[echo karma]

And the devs go on vacation right after a major update. Who makes this sht up? Who approved that pto?

[feral vine]

Got some real geniuses cooking at t17

[echo karma]

Go back to worms

[feral vine]

They do every time, bunch of ostriches with their heads in the sand.

Spent weeks coding some new bugs and armor changes no one wanted, time to take a vaca

[echo karma]

Oh I can't wait till Vietnam. The crying will be immense. I can't wait

The trailer has literally everything we've asked for in hll lmao

[desert owl]

200% learning Vietnamese for it

[echo karma]

Death to sky dragon!

I already hate everyone talking in a Vietnam accent in arma reforger but f it

[feral vine]

Im not gonna touch that mess. This teams clearly not capable of coding collision anything properly. I dont want to see them attempt a jungle

[desert owl]

Nah, I’ll go all in

[echo karma]

It's gonna be a sht show. I can't wait

Be worse than burning lands maybe

[feral vine]

VC stopping tanks with knee high shrubs and buckets

Its why America lost

[covert elbow]

It’s gonna be a mess haha

[echo karma]

It's early war too so hopefully time eccentric not like el Amanda but I already know

[leaden carbon]

Way to go devs, really 💩 the bed again, we all come to expect that you suck at your jobs, a bit like politicians, do what ever you want and have to answer to no one.. The tanks take off at Mach 1 now. Good luck putting a satchel on a tank unless it’s a solo. The turret turns around at Mach 2. Rockets for AT, you get 2, not enough to kill a buffed tank, so Cooooooool. Bunch of idiots. Take a game that was fine and piss it into the wind.

[echo karma]

Ue5 is the worst engine on the market. You'll see when arc raiders drops. Crash fest with 5 fps

[covert elbow]

Also people complain about Normandy maps being to similar, I hope they enjoy the same jungle a million times over

[feral vine]

Realistically the servers probably wont work for the first few years to even play a full match to experience how bad the game is

[echo karma]

Vivox will die immediately

Number won't be as well as hll. Even at 40$ it'll have to be priced minimum 50$

[desert owl]

I beg to differ, by far my favorite

[feral vine]

Get ready to see a whole lot of reused hurtgen assets

[echo karma]

It's to early. It's wild between different games. Some games run well, others not so.

[desert owl]

True, but just look at it

[echo karma]

I bet they use assets from ue5 store

[desert owl]

I doubt it tbh

[leaden carbon]

HLL on the “not so” side and it’s been that way for a while.

[echo karma]

It looks pretty but it runs worse than ue4 bro. Performance across the board is horrible.

[feral vine]

The free ones

[echo karma]

Epic sues. Wins everything.

[desert owl]

I don’t know, we shall see. Ue4 looks horrid but runs decent. Hopefully they optimize tf out of it, utilize all tools

[feral vine]

Hll is designed in a UE5 demo. They have to keep making up email addresses to use it

[echo karma]

Unlikely. The engine is still to new. Optimization is the biggest issue rn. We'll see at the end of the month with arc raiders as it's ue5

[feral vine]

What will we do if Epic owns worms. The game industry is doomed

[echo karma]

Fortnite worms?

[desert owl]

There’s a good team behind arc raiders should be a great showcase on performance and graphics

[echo karma]

The tect test was okay on xsx. Stable performance albeit server issues and typical bugs

[desert owl]

That’s mostly good to hear. I don’t think I’ll get it. I was hyped to hear it being a free to play looter shooter, but they went with the stupid extraction shooter route

[echo karma]

Yeah gameplay wise it will fail. And no wipes. But I trash the noobs till something else comes out

[obtuse dragon]

hell nah that's UE4

i'll never forget Red orchestra and the time it crashed just because i shot a tank with an mg

[desert owl]

Unity on the bottom

[finite berry]

Vietnam.

Which is realistic. Based. :D

[feral vine]

Extraction shooters are the worst

[desert owl]

DMZ was tight, but it’s overdone now, much like battle royale

[covert elbow]

Vietnam

[feral vine]

I've had the game for 3 years, can I get a refund

[desert owl]

1000+ hours

[feral vine]

Tbf only 200 of those have been playable

[obtuse dragon]

after like 6 games of stalingrad... they really need to fix the optimization on this map 😭

[mighty flower]

I can't join any server after today's update. It just says "Lost connection to host" everytime I try to join. Anyone know a fix?

[obtuse dragon]

The map is so poorly optimized that it got to a point that i was on a gunfight and couldn't even aim properly thanks to the 16 fps the map was giving me

[crisp wedge]

Performance got even worse on stalingrad the random volumetric fog everywhere doesn't help at all

[mighty flower]

anyone here play EU, CIV or HOI 4? I wanted to try one of those but I dont know what the difference is. Any recommendations?

[finite berry]

Latest update is fugged

So you've gotta wait for a hotfix

[wind shore]

New Stalingrad in sunny weather looks amazing

[echo karma]

Can't play. Game crashes every 2 seconds

Ben wake up

You're on QA today

[echo karma]

Takes 2 months to push a hotfix..

[obtuse dragon]

So, until then, we'll have to stay with the fps killer stalingrad

[echo karma]

Studdergrad was already the worst map in the game. Tied with remagen.

It's probably banned still on all community servers

It's also a very lop sided match. Favored by the Germans

I'd play Enlisted of it want so f-ing p2w

[crisp wedge]

Shame its the most pivotal battle in the game if only it was remotely playable

[obtuse dragon]

Do you think that the soviets also had to fight the low framerate

[simple quail]

Hello guys, I just updated the game but haven't played it yet,it seems players don't like it,what am I going to face?

[obtuse dragon]

Ok so, thanks were buffed and nerfed

Heavy tanks can survive an extra Rocket on the engine But the devs messed up a Little bit on the collisions

[simple quail]

Oh, okay. that's AT players problem

[obtuse dragon]

They also reworked Stalingrad, they unpavloved pavlov's house, added black fart clouds that kills your FPS and... Actually, they completely destroyed stalingrad's performance

And I think they nerfed some heavy tanks making them weaker against other tanks

[simple quail]

Also okay,I leave that map by default myself.

I guess I have to try it ,thanks

[obtuse dragon]

And they also added a new level 7 subclass for the tank crewman

[simple quail]

I bought the game 5 days ago
I worried that they broke the game

[obtuse dragon]

Which Is basically an engineer But for tanks

Oh and they also added a new ability for the commander which Is an arty attack

[simple quail]

Arty attack using the team artillery?

[obtuse dragon]

They Kinda broke it? Some people get an error on some servers

[simple quail]

🙁

[obtuse dragon]

No, like, the commander places an order and shells start falling towards that specific spot

[obtuse dragon]

I haven't experienced any error tho, only performance issues on Stalingrad and having to pray that I'll destroy a tank

[simple quail]

And artillery can be used at the same time?

[wind shore]

No, they don’t

If something gets broken it drops hot fixes

[obtuse dragon]

Yes! You can still send some shells while the commander uses the order

[simple quail]

Interesting. Thanks for the info guys

[obtuse dragon]

OH AND

[simple quail]

💀

[obtuse dragon]

They also buffed and nerfed tank speeds, I think light tanks move fast asf now and some tanks move like a snail

You should give the patch notes a quick look on the Telegrams channel

[simple quail]

Light tanks are already fast ...

[obtuse dragon]

Actually I'm not so sure about the light tank speed, But they did Buff and Nerf the heavy tanks

[covert elbow]

It’s level 7???

Guess no one’s using that then

I would have thought it’d be an alternate level 1 loadout considering how much it does

[obtuse dragon]

I think they placed it that high because you level up easily on tanks... And because you can scrap broken tanks that are around the map

[covert elbow]

How fast is it to get to level 7 with tanks?

[obtuse dragon]

Idk, it depends on how well you do, But I think that it's kinda fast if you focus on the infantry

I'm still level 4, But that's because i don't play tank too much

[thorn geode]

hello guys

[wind shore]

Hi

[thorn geode]

I am new to the game, I haven't download it yet, but I will download it when winter sale hits on steam

[covert elbow]

It’s on sale right now

[echo karma]

I find it ironic that satchel can 1shot heavy still and heavy stalls in 4th gear so you just get satcheled and have to wait 10mins now

[echo karma]

Very fast as you tend to get alotta kills and destroy alotta supplies and repping

Ben on QA today?

[fluid pawn]

For reference, I responded this in answer to two questions about future content. Not about Update 18. The U18 team are very much here and are working though issues related to the new update I can promise that 🫡 I've just got back into the office however am chasing up the team based on feedback over night

[fluid pawn]

Morning Muph

[echo karma]

Don't worry smite2 tu was today and it launched in the worst state I've seen yet

[echo karma]

That's what she said hahahahah

[fluid pawn]

Just trying my best 😅

[echo karma]

We need a trello board on all known bugs and issues rn for the community to see

[fluid pawn]

I know they have a similar one that's internal, however can see if getting a public facing one is a posibility in the future. No promises though ahah

[echo karma]

Should be a priority. The bug report channel is a mess and I doubt website has forums

Can we expect an ama again

Or the usual silent treatment?

[frail heart]

Command arty way too OP. Think it will be one of those rules to ban the use if it, added to all comp leagues 🤣

[echo karma]

I haven't tried it yet. Better than p strike?

[fluid pawn]

Will look to get another dev q&a set up in the near future to go over U18 and plans for U19 dw

[frail heart]

Way overpowered who decided it was a good idea

[pine ember]

Please, please do not add that much of DLC. They are just making the game more inaccurate. Please make HLL more realistic again and encourage people to use their mics. That what makes HLL great

[echo karma]

I thought it was gonna be a power and they delete arty but we just get a new power and still have arty lmao

Wonder who asked for that slick killcam bs tho. That sht is immersion breaking af. I like black screen better

[thin scarab]

Are you gonna spam this every Hour ?

[pine ember]

Not every Hour, but I won’t be quiet about this either

[echo karma]

Whose gonna buy dlc in this poor of state the game is in? Who supports this. Nobody

[thin scarab]

Pro Tipp, stop trying. There Are people here who tried it for 3 years and didnt help. They gonna add more and more. Need to get some Money in

[pine ember]

People with pink glasses on

[echo karma]

They push mtx dlc every update and sometimes free dlc. I doubt they see many sales too

[wind shore]

He can say his opinion, but I can disagree and approve this point of course

[pine ember]

I doubt most of their Revenue comes from DLC. Even if, there are enough of them. The latest DLCs just make the Game more inaccurate. If the DLC were good, accurate and comparable to those from 2021/22, I would buy them too

[echo karma]

People don't support failing games. Name an update in the past 2 yrs that was "good"

T17 is already a big company. Likely they've lost money on acquiring this title. Obviously the price hike didn't help

[pine ember]

It’s just sad seeing the core community suggesting stuff and the devs are like: New map, new (more casual) Mechanics, new DLC. Take it or leave it

[echo karma]

This is also the biggest game they've bought yet

[thin scarab]

If it Doesnt come from DLC why are they then still releasing DLCs?

[wind shore]

What’s wrong with new map

[covert elbow]

It’s mainly the game sales but DLC’s definitely pull their weight

[echo karma]

Just buy Vietnam cuz you won't see any of that in hll. This game is done for already

[covert elbow]

Wouldn’t be suprised if it does double revenue though considering the sheer amount of DLC’s these days

[pine ember]

Because they hope there is one banger DLC people will buy

[covert elbow]

And now we get paid tank skins… yay…

[thin scarab]

Game Sales for sure. My Point was if they wouldnt make much Money of DLCs they wouldnt even make them. But yeah Sales is a big Part aswell

[echo karma]

A 5$ skin that no one buys.

[pine ember]

But we see which ones perform well, and surprise, These aren’t the latest

[echo karma]

Sales were cemented before they purchased the IP

[pine ember]

Evergreens are the older ones which also were more accurate. The new ones just weren’t needed

[covert elbow]

Idk who thought adding Cossacks with a Stalingrad update was a good idea

[echo karma]

They raised the price shortly after purchasing the game

[finite berry]

Kedo

[pine ember]

Yep. Or LwFd. and ROA for Normandy…

[thin scarab]

Jup

[covert elbow]

Also the pricings inconsistent as hell. I swear it makes no sense

[covert elbow]

I mean yea. It scares me to think the devs actually listen to what he says

[pine ember]

No one will buy 15€ skins if the base game is 55€

[echo karma]

I mean look at el Amanda. Had a panther on it. This game ain't historically accurate in the slightest. Vietnam won't be either

[wind shore]

I think it’s good idea. Why not?

[wind shore]

I will

[pine ember]

Same, it’s sad, rather listen to the core Community

[covert elbow]

And even the “ good” ones have issues. It’s just bad how they handle them

[wind shore]

Some guys will

[echo karma]

Wait till they raise the price of V to 50$

[pine ember]

Sadly yes

[thin scarab]

I do if I think the Skin is cool

[echo karma]

People don't support bad work. If the update was fine, people would support it hence buying dlc.

[wind shore]

What’s bad with DLC?

The quality is good? Fine, I would buy it

[echo karma]

Thier earnings are public info too. Can look it up

[covert elbow]

They’ve already shown they’re willing to lie for PR when they say they want the game “stich accurate” but have incorrect uniforms and weapon models for 1965. And even more so if they copy the HLL formula for single class options rather than map specific loadouts

[wind shore]

Why, if I want to play Cossack, why I can’t?

[pine ember]

Same, but it shouldn’t be just cool, it should fit and be accurate too

[wind shore]

It’s accurate, and fits.

[covert elbow]

Yea. Like I was tempted to buy the tank skins to check them out but not after this update holy crap

[echo karma]

We haven't seen gun skins yet. Idc about a uniform i can't see in an fps game.

Nor tanks skins

[covert elbow]

Can’t wait for cloth barrel shrouds to cost $10 per gun

[wind shore]

Idc can I see it or not, I have barracks.

[thin scarab]

End of the day its just a Game. Got the Game for free. Spend 2000 hours in it and had a good time. So im Not really gonna Look if something is 100% accurate

[echo karma]

They could do simple gun skins like tarnished and weathered etc custom gun butts etc but they don't. Those will sell over a hat

[thin scarab]

I am more pissed about broken Updates every time

[echo karma]

Been what 3 yrs now?

[thin scarab]

Jup sadly

[covert elbow]

I get pissed off that it doesn’t take much more effort to make sure something is innacurate or not. If it’s something that has to be sacrificed for gameplay then no big deal. But when it’s simple stuff like uniform details and cosmetic stuff is when I get mad

[echo karma]

I know last 4 have been abysmal

[covert elbow]

It’s honestly unfun to see so many people wearing so many different things on the battlefield. Germany has it the worst

[wind shore]

So just lock winter camouflages maybe?

[covert elbow]

Seeing standard tunics, white camo, over coats, jackets, caps, helmets, etc all jumbled into one really takes me out of the experience but I guess that’s just me

[echo karma]

When el Amanda dropped the dates were wrong. Panther on the map. Clothing was wrong. Guns were wrong. Nobody cares. This ain't BM

[covert elbow]

I just want a damn uniform toggle for myself

[covert elbow]

That was BM though

They made the British update

[echo karma]

They fixxed the load out bug. They win right?

[echo karma]

They helped BM on British. Knew it was crap. Still pushed it. Took 2 updates to fix it

Remeber when they cried about game analytics and we haven't seen nothing since. They pushed a whole tu for analysis stuff. We need this. Nothing came of it. There still pushing buggy messes

[finite berry]

That would literally solve that issue lol

[covert elbow]

Ah the game analytics. I forgot about that

[echo karma]

I'm convinced they don't even test stuff on console but idk. Game was on a different version for awhile

[covert elbow]

I do wonder if they use that still

[echo karma]

They obviously do cuz they balance stuff on wierd metrics

[thin scarab]

Problem with this Team is that they still dont have a clue what to do with this game. They just are throwing stuff out to see what Sticks. There is no real Direction

[covert elbow]

Yea when it released the game didn’t come with the Soviets

[covert elbow]

They need to either go full Arcade or go towards being a MilSim again. At this point I think we know the answer though

[finite berry]

That sums it up terrifyingly well

[echo karma]

The major issue is they don't listen to the community. You have 1000s of useful suggestions a monkey could think of and you throw it all away for what? Tank changes no one asked for?? Just fix the map bro. Doing to much

[covert elbow]

It’s a shame to. It was the only WW2 MilSim on consoles. I guess I can try arma reforger

[covert elbow]

Let’s not kid ourselves. If they do listen to the community it’s to divided

[echo karma]

Every update now they change things. Community is in outrage. They change it back. So your doing nothing

[covert elbow]

Half the people want a MilSim and half the people want a game they can hop on and have a good time. It’s to late for any big changes so they need to keep it the same and just add onto it

I’ve given my coal analogy before. It suck’s it won’t ever be a diamond but at least it’ll be a giant thing of coal

[echo karma]

There recent updates cater toward casuals. The comms wheel specifically.

[covert elbow]

Like I said, we all know where the game is headed

[pine ember]

Well, I didn’t. I also had a good time, but if it promises accuracy such DLC shouldn’t be there

[pine ember]

Yes, and this can be fixed so easily

[finite berry]

A thing people here often seem to miss is that the average player is not a mil-sim enjoyer or an armchair historian, but a tired family dad coming home from work who wants to hop on for an hour or so to relax a bit.

[echo karma]

Like they change rifles damage. Idk why? They nerf smgs. They changed sprint on whim thinking it would be okay and it broke the game literally

[thin scarab]

Exactly that

[covert elbow]

But not enough people care for it and it would cause the game to loose DLC sales so it won’t happen

[pine ember]

Yes, which is ok. But still, if a Game promises accuracy these uniforms shouldn’t be there

[covert elbow]

Like I said, half the people want a MilSim and half the people don’t

I guess at this stage though the MilSim folks are in the minority now

We’ve come a long way since Alpha

[echo karma]

The game was fine were it was. It punishes you for foul play. You run out in the open what you think gonna happen?

It's not milsim at all. Go play reforger

[thin scarab]

Naah Its More Like 15% Milsim and 85% casual/Comp. There is still allot of the Community Not in this discord.

[pine ember]

I do Not want a true milsim either. But I cannot repeat myself enough. If accuracy is promised, then they should keep it accurate

[echo karma]

It's basically hard-core battlefield

[finite berry]

Not in a vocal way, but definitely in the numerical way. And only the latter counts for T17

[covert elbow]

Sounds about right

[echo karma]

Like literally hard-core battlefield. To the t

[thin scarab]

The Amount of people on FB still don’t know what Discord is is really scary 😭

[echo karma]

Minimal hud. Everything 1 shots. Requires teamwork

[covert elbow]

I came looking for a more tactical and slower paced game but o got tricked. It shows in the community clans

[finite berry]

Get a PC ❤️

[echo karma]

If you didn't build garrisons and OPs it would be bf clone lol

[covert elbow]

MilSims are rare, and even more so ones that are actually MilSims and not just comp groups that use military hierarchy. A majority of the games clans are competitive groups or casual friend groups

[fickle scaffold]

Has this POS been fixed yet? Ah no, we’re still on slow mode. @fluid pawn get it together because your mod filter doesn’t like what I’ve to say x

[covert elbow]

God I wish

[echo karma]

Go play reforger the Vietnam server. Never play as GI tho. You'll get rolled. Death to sky dragon!

[covert elbow]

5 second slow mode is the standard for this server

[fickle scaffold]

ah I thought it was still on the minute from last night

[covert elbow]

I don’t want to play Vietnam though, I want to play WW2. It’s why I got HLL

[echo karma]

Trailer was 10mins but literally chat was zooming and sht on any t17 in here.

[covert elbow]

We got to a minute eventually

The trailer was when the community was completely united as well

[thin scarab]

Why Can’t T17 be Like Embark Studios🥲

[echo karma]

Mods are alot leinet now. Trailer was the worst I ever seen. Was a t17 bonfire. Hell t17 members all hid offline.

[covert elbow]

Despite the crashing the update isn’t effecting everyone the same

[echo karma]

Hell nah. They ain't any better bro

[thin scarab]

LOL what

[pine ember]

I originally came for historical accuracy and teamplay, and because BF was too light for me

[covert elbow]

That was because the trailer released at like 3 am their time

[echo karma]

There Swedish and they censor tf outta that discord. I'm banned in there

[thin scarab]

Thats not true lol. Im in that Discord 🤣

[echo karma]

Because of a bug they had and I asked about it and got banned for being racist even tho I wasn't.

There HQ is in Sweden. Right down the road from arrowhead

[finite berry]

Surely that's solely on them and you are not at fault at all 😀

[echo karma]

By dice too

[covert elbow]

I’m inclined to not believe you muph I won’t lie

[finite berry]

Same lol

[fickle scaffold]

Yeah.. if you get banned that often maybe it’s not censorship

[echo karma]

Trust me bro they hate me over there

[thin scarab]

Embark is goated

[finite berry]

I wonder how, I wonder why

[covert elbow]

What game do they make?

[echo karma]

No they aren't. They nerfed bombs and I ripped em a new one

The finals

[thin scarab]

The Finals and Arc Raiders

[covert elbow]

Oh what? The old dice dev team?

[thin scarab]

Jup

[covert elbow]

Those guys are awesome

[echo karma]

Few ex dice devs

[thin scarab]

They Are really great

[echo karma]

They are not. Incompetent as well. And they monetize tf outta finals

[covert elbow]

Isn’t it a free game?

[echo karma]

They nerf things for no reason than just to nerf em

[thin scarab]

Not true tho.

[covert elbow]

Of course they are. That’s par for the course with free live service

[echo karma]

That game is in mtx hell rn. And probaly less playerbase than hll

All they did was make a areana shooter with dice physics

[covert elbow]

Yes

That’s why people play it

[thin scarab]

The skins are Great imo. Also you Can mix skins aswell.

[covert elbow]

I don’t get your reasoning there

[echo karma]

Ehhh well see. Hype for arc tho

[covert elbow]

That’s cool

[covert elbow]

???

wtf was that haha

[echo karma]

Arc was fun when I played it. Scrappy a lil to much imo

Funny I made into both tech tests too

Arc raiders will do better than finals but I see it falling off a cliff cuz no wipes. Also cheaters will be an issue

[thin scarab]

Jup cheaters Gonna Buy the Game everytime they get banned lol. The Game is 40 Euros

[echo karma]

Like 2 months in playerbase falls off a cliff. Game was wildly unbalance in tt2

[echo karma]

So is tarkov but alas there are many a cheater

[thin scarab]

Game was really good in the TT2

[echo karma]

Extraction games tend to have many a cheater that eventually kill the playerbase. It won't die on console cuz we just turn off crossplay

[thin scarab]

I don’t think that will be the case

[echo karma]

I'm not a fan of the 3pp per se but asthetics were cool

[thin scarab]

Its something different and they made it really good

[echo karma]

It will most likely be the case coupled with no wipe mechanics. Game will get stale fast af.

These things have already happened in tarkov. And many other Extraction game that tried to make it

[thin scarab]

You Can Level youre Char so you don’t Need wipes. What they gonna do is Char Wipes to get cosmetics and stuff ( i think )

[thin scarab]

Its not Like Tarkov tho

[echo karma]

There BP was like hd2. And there questline was boring af. Look up murder hobos. You'll be one soon

[echo karma]

It's exactly like tarkov except 3pp. Very campy too

[thin scarab]

Its a TT2 what you expect that they give you the best quests?

[covert elbow]

Wish they’d port over a ton of Helldivers mechanics to HLL. That gameplay is 10/10

[mint mural]

this update is terrible

[echo karma]

I expect the game to be fleshed out or totally bare. A murder hobos is someone whose bored with the questlije and only aims to pvp. And with no wipes, this will be encouraged alot. To the point of no beginning gear will be viable at all.

I.e. casuals will leave in masses. And they'll be forced to nerf all high-end gear/guns

[thin scarab]

My opinion is Completely different

[thin scarab]

Yeah…..

[echo karma]

Tarkov is the golden example. There's another game can't remeber but died to cheaters. Was a f2p Extraction shooter 3pp. Something Dino related.

[thin scarab]

Its nothing Like tarkov tho

[echo karma]

Literally died within 2 months of launch. They couldn't tackle cheaters plus wild imbalance

[thin scarab]

Tarkov still has a playerbase tho

[echo karma]

It is exactly like tarkov. Fps Extraction shooter just casual af

[echo karma]

Yes. Diehard following

[thin scarab]

Then the Game is Not Dead?

[echo karma]

You forget arc is casual as a mfer.

[echo karma]

I didn't say it was dead

[thin scarab]

Literally died within 2 months of launch. They couldn't tackle cheaters plus wild imbalance

This you?

[echo karma]

Scroll up n read

[thin scarab]

I did. And you said it died after 2 months ?

[echo karma]

@thin scarab

And my other message is right after

[thin scarab]

Ah didnt See that.

[echo karma]

Yeah I can member the name of that game. It had a persistent world. Was massive. F2p I think 3pp. Was fun till tarkov cheaters rolled in. They made the mistake of marketing towards tarkov audience and there playerbase

The cycle: frontier was the name of that game.

The cheaters nuked that game from the orbit

[thin scarab]

Okay. But AR isnt Doing that. I actually think from TT2 that the Game can be something really Special

Cheaters will always be a Problem in Games

[echo karma]

Doubtful. No wipes and catering to casuals are red flags in extraction games. You die, you lose your loot

Imagine how fast tarkov falls off after 1.0. It already dies 2 months in when everyone has top tier gear. You die instantly

There's also no confirmed market per se. Which incentives rmt. Which will be an issue

[thin scarab]

There is a skill three tho. So yes if you lose you lose your stuff but you still work on your Char and Thats a difference

[echo karma]

That is a huge mistake in of itself. Further pushing the sweats to even higher levels

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/oguri-cap-uma-musume-cinderella-gray-eat-eating-gif-6770234904401320070

[echo karma]

Trust me bro, when the quest rewards are as ppl stop questing and just pvp. Then you snowball and get bored af

[thin scarab]

You think Thats a misstake

[echo karma]

No wipes means bosses or anything they put in will be defeated day1

[thin scarab]

The Trust me Bro aint doing it 🤣

[echo karma]

You'll see. Casuals will leave in masses

[stoic star]

Is there any way to fix the crashing issue??

[echo karma]

New content will be beaten day 1

[finite berry]

Wait for a hotfix.

[thin scarab]

We seen that in TT2 with the Queen 🤣🤣

[echo karma]

Game will die 2 months probaly sooner cuz the content in tt2 was weak

[echo karma]

I wiped her multiple times lol the mechanics were easy af

[thin scarab]

Solo?

[echo karma]

I maxed everything and had Over a million steel or whatever. Game wasn't hard bro

[echo karma]

Easier in a squad. You can solo

[thin scarab]

If people Like Shroud needed 4-5 Players to kill it , you think I will believe you saying its possible solo or easy ?

[echo karma]

Believe what you will. Shroud can aim but top gear is OP. That yellow shotty rips

[thin scarab]

In the Next 14 days ?

[finite berry]

I guess so, probably faster

[main harness]

No need for a hotfix, just wait til the next update. Which they are racing towards rather than listening to community feedback. 😭

[crystal nebula]

We are cooked

[lethal stream]

I would like to ask how I can send a message in the game that everyone can see, as I have an administrator role.

[thin scarab]

Whats a Community ?

[oak current]

Its a Cleric Domain, Which gives you Calming Touch (Sp): You can touch a creature as a standard action to heal it of 1d6 points of nonlethal damage + 1 point per cleric level. This touch also removes the fatigued, shaken, and sickened conditions (but has no effect on more severe conditions). You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Wisdom modifier.

[thin scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-talking-invetigating-mad-explain-gif-16881825

[fickle scaffold]

it's T17 so anytime within the next 3-6 months..

[mint mural]

Didnt know they could make it worse than it was

[finite berry]

I can't believe it'll take so long for them because the game crashing is an actually critical bug, even from their perspective

[fickle scaffold]

So was the comms bug imo but they dragged that one out as long as possible

[sturdy quarry]

i mean in an fps bullets going where you aim is pretty critical, yet took years to fix british weapons...

[weak kiln]

Havn't played in a while, is the artillery in spawn still a thing?

[fickle scaffold]

In other news! HHL vietnam is coming and we're all sooo excited right..?

[thin scarab]

Got even better

[fickle scaffold]

atm playing the game isn't really a thing

[thin scarab]

BF6 and Arc Raiders first

[young galleon]

Say the word

You guys won’t

[fickle scaffold]

word

[young galleon]

Update sucks

Fix it

[wanton summit]

panther cant cross a mini wall now ... total bulshits

ever a 45 degrees cross didnt work

[wicked igloo]

Hotfix or revert to previous please game is unplayable

[wind shore]

Weiser Mann

[versed jay]

3 light Tanks vs 3 fence posts
Fence Post Won 😔

Light tanks keep clipping into the fence post when your half way through them and then your stuck

[wanton summit]

try a panther vs small gap .... impossible to cross

[echo karma]

They nerfef the luchs bro. Worst tank in the game

Meanwhile recon tank been getting stuck on everything for years and no one cares bro.

Seems we'll get the ole silent treatment today. Better than the gaslighting tho

[mellow knoll]

@fluid pawn Yeah please let the devs know that the heavies and the mediums really need their collision box fixing. Panther, Tiger and the US medium can’t go over any bumps now because the collision freaks out and either stops you right in your tracks or just almost spazzes your tank out.

It really could do with being fixed soon in a hotfix because it’s making heavies on the Germans pointless

[dapper sparrow]

Damn, now that you've mentioned it, they won't look at it!

[inner tartan]

This is the same pattern we have seen time and time again since T17 purchased the game. They cater fixes for a minority of players who complain about balance issues, rollout game breaking changes without proper testing and community feedback, remain silent on the issues with no acknowledgements or feedback response and roll a new patch and the cycle starts again.

[echo karma]

Heavy is pointless anyways it can't 1 shot a medium.

Satchel is your friend.

I have big gun. Bigger than your medium tank. Yet I can't 1 shot you. Duhhrrr

[main harness]

I really don't understand how they can't just use common sense. Heavy should 1 shot medium from the side.

[echo karma]

Every vehicle should 1 shot from side period

Meanwhile arty loop still in game. And commander has arty too!

[sturdy quarry]

rekon its just gonna be radio silence or the usual day or two until a "sorry we bust it again" telegram?

[mellow knoll]

No thanks. Who shoots first is boring and needs to be removed.

We need proper tank weak spots so you actually need skill as a gunner.

Just shooting anywhere shouldn’t make a tank blow up lol

[midnight mortar]

They've changed a lot so it will take time to iron out the balance, its not a bad update. The core issue is stability, you just cant have the game / servers crashing constantly, that needs to be fixed ASAP.

The new arty command is probably fine if it doesn't destroy garrisons.

I also think that warfare should start with default garrisons (like offensive) to make the game more enjoyable for newer players

[worthy charm]

Its still pretty strong without it, i mean "few hundred kills per game without a sweat" strong

[worthy charm]

Weakspots should have been something...

[mellow knoll]

Aside from shooting the ammo but still point stands

A prime example on how T17 should do it is the new Panzer Elite game. It balances overall tank health with weak spots and it does it well so far. It’s only in early access as well.

[fluid pawn]

Appreciate the feedback. Any feedback or suggestions I'd highly recommend popping into the #1425053075047055470 channel. Dev's are looking at the channel currently and will continue to post-release 🙂

Same with other general feedback in #1425052819311955969

[stuck wigeon]

Alright gamers how's the tank update, is it worth coming back to hell let loose for

[novel geyser]

Ben in chat
there is a slight smudge of light glare on the main menu that covers the characters face and it really peeves me off 😠
fix pls

[sturdy quarry]

no its bust

[stuck wigeon]

how so, not looking too much into it, seems pretty good

[sturdy quarry]

T17 did a thing

[stuck wigeon]

Faster tanks, less heavies, actual differences between them maybe

[novel geyser]

if you play tanks a lot it might be worth coming back to

otherwise not much has changed really

[stuck wigeon]

Reading a little bit up, seems there's a few issues with the new tanks

That's unfortunate

[sturdy quarry]

yeah the update was about tanks so they didnt test the tanks

[oak current]

That was my first reaction as well

[novel geyser]

totally ruined the game they should revert the update

[oak current]

The Shiny Face Incident

[novel geyser]

reminding me of the tiny eyes incident
still miffed at them for that

[mellow knoll]

I was gonna mention that too XD

[mellow knoll]

It only needs a hot fix for the collisions and the outline skin bug and it’s fine 👍

[novel geyser]

yep

[nova pivot]

The new face for the russians looks like the guy is going to eat you alive

I love it

[mellow knoll]

Was gonna say, have you never seen a soviet before?

[fluid pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/big-floppa-for-bk-gif-25780630

Hungry soviet floppa

[heady hornet]

thats a chonky boy

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/floppa-attack-mad-gif-21589399

[fluid pawn]

as mentioned, continue to let us know issues as the team is working on fixes 🫡

[main harness]

With respect. This is a really poor balance update for armour. And far from making heavies strong and impactful they are now frustrating and weak.

[mellow knoll]

Oh yeah that’s the floppa that always looks like it’s about to rip apart its owners

[mellow knoll]

Will do dw

[echo karma]

Don't. You'll be disappointed.

Heavy can't 1 shot a medium. What's the point of a heavy bro

[mellow knoll]

My guy

[echo karma]

10min cooldown to get 1 shot by a satchel

[fluid pawn]

The team are hard at work currently and in conversation with the server GSPs to get the issues resolved

[mellow knoll]

Engagements shouldn’t be about who shoots first

[echo karma]

Yes they should be.

[mellow knoll]

It should be who is the better gunner

No they shouldn’t. That’s not how its supposed to work.

[echo karma]

Ambushing is a tactic. Called camping and it works

[mellow knoll]

Whoever the better gunner is should be a factor, not just who shoots who first wherever lmao

[echo karma]

Tanks have heavy frontal armour for a reason

[mellow knoll]

The who shoots first mechanic is so god damn boring it’s what made me quit tanking for 2 years

[echo karma]

There is no recoil at all in tanks. Gtfo with that stupid argument

Execpet the luchs cuz they broke it

[mellow knoll]

You need to look at real tank warfare mate xD

[echo karma]

Tell me engagement range I'll wait

[mellow knoll]

It’s nothing like what was in the game before

[echo karma]

Who aims lmao gtfo here. Go back to Enlisted brother

[mellow knoll]

I don’t play that bull mate, I play games with realism.

Enlisted is the complete opposite of realism.

[echo karma]

The German tanks even have the sites but there useless cuz tank engagements in this game are like 200m if that

[novel geyser]

its unrealistic they didnt give the tiger rocket boosters and wings

[echo karma]

Yeah cuz top speed is 10kph

[vivid temple]

best update in years

U18

[echo karma]

You know it was like what 40 in real life. Mfer had a motor in it

[mellow knoll]

Ye in reality they had more than 6 gears

[novel geyser]

HLL tanks have always been stupidly slow

[mellow knoll]

In game they have only 4

[echo karma]

There even slower now lol

[mellow knoll]

From what I tested they’re faster

Some of them at least

[echo karma]

The Churchill took a solid 10mins to reach bridge on driel

[mellow knoll]

Panther defo is, same with p4

[echo karma]

It was topped out at 15kph

76 drives like a boat. Panther and tiger same ish

No turning in high gear

[mellow knoll]

When I tested the new panther it was reaching like 26/27 I think

[echo karma]

It's a medium tank by all standards

[mellow knoll]

How it should be tbh. German tanks especially the panther were dog at turning in high gears

[nova pivot]

The light tanks work well

[echo karma]

It's a video game bruh. 10min cooldown cuz you get satcheled

[nova pivot]

The lucht drives super smooth

[echo karma]

The luchs is dogwater bro. Have you fired it?

[mellow knoll]

I just prefer realism and accuracy, just how I roll

Sole prefer arcade and that’s fine

[echo karma]

Go play Enlisted fanboy

[nova pivot]

I know, is the worst tank

[mellow knoll]

No thanks I’d rather not slit my wrist ty

[nova pivot]

I'm saying it drives good

[echo karma]

Nah they messed up the firing. It doesn't center now and has ridiculous shot depression. 2nd shot is like 2 whole barrels off. Can't full auto anymore

Plus it gets stuck on everything. Branches alot

[nova pivot]

It's bad even if it shots well

0 AT capability

[echo karma]

Plus the nerfed the damage and explosion radius of the 20mill. Worst tank in the game btw

[solar slate]

I played 800hrs of panther coz it was so fun to drive around like a maniac through hectic fights and outplay everyone

Sounds like I won't be coming back to the game then

[echo karma]

I only played panther cuz 6 sec reload.

Get ready in Vietnam they change the sprint speed without saying anything and oops. Oh wait they already did that

[wicked igloo]

Now you cant drive at all

[mellow knoll]

You can drive but you gotta avoid the smallest bumps imaginable lmao

[echo karma]

Pamther turns like a boat stuck in mud. I.e. not a panther

[mellow knoll]

Not in 1st or 2nd gear

It turns like a beast in low gears

[echo karma]

I got sent to the moon on driel in Churchill. Clipped into the static train cars on bridge. Then game crashed

@fluid pawn lemme see that trello board son. Gotta be mostly figured put by now. Past lunch time

[fluid pawn]

Unfortunately can't share that with you I'm afraid ahah. The team appreicate everyones feedback so far however ❤️

[past veldt]

Ben have you seen some of the kill counts from the new arty strike ability?

[solar slate]

No problem if you are required to downshift to turn BUT it needs to not be so clunky as it currently is, I heard it's even slower now

[mellow knoll]

Yeah switching gears is a lot slower now

Specially in the heavies

[solar slate]

If downshifting to turn were to be a good mechanic you need to be able to choose your gear right away and rev match

[dusty bolt]

@fluid pawn patch update today? Both servers and clients are crashing over and over

[fluid pawn]

I haven't yet no. How big we taling?

[past veldt]

Guys are getting 200+ kills and 10+ garrison takedowns from the ability

It's already banned in competitive tournaments as it's too strong

[fluid pawn]

I don't think there will be a patch update today. The team are working on the server issues atm however and we'll share news ASAP

[echo karma]

Not till Monday at latest.

[versed jay]

Just need to decrease the accuracy of it and reconfigure it to 1 large area you select instead of 3

[echo karma]

Takes em forever to push hotfixes cuz of Sony

[worthy charm]

Nobody tell the new players they can farm XP with that.

[versed jay]

Can’t they don’t have mics

[echo karma]

Kinda OP huh?

[past veldt]

No, this stuff is all fine. It's the fact it's on top of regular artillery and can delete garrisons

[grizzled kiln]

Please fix the tanks faster than it took to fix the mediums 🙏 And they are still a bit broken tbh

[versed jay]

Remove the garrison delete, add smoke barrage, take out artillery guns, lock the HQs until on last point imo

[versed jay]

U24

[past veldt]

I hope they don't lock HQs from being accessed. They're pretty valuable space for offensive logistics players to access

Maybe Ben will hook me up with the ability to teach the developers the ways of commander and offensive logistics to help them develop these abilities and ideas 👀

[versed jay]

They Limit heavy tanks, now we have been running into 2 guys in every HQ camping the tanks, or they just camp the heavy tanks and the you don’t get a heavy at all

HQ Locked till last point is unlocked then it’s free game

[fluid pawn]

Just as a heads up to those here, I'll be on holiday from later today for a week, so won't be able to respond to any pings or issues directly I'm afraid.

For any bugs/issues, please ensure that you contact the support team so that issues can be logged for the next update and shared with the devs https://support.team17.com/hell-let-loose/en/

Then for other suggestions or feedback, please can these be popped into the #1425052819311955969 or #1425053075047055470 channels. The devs are looking at these forums and I know are already working on suggestions made 🫡

The mods will also be able to support as best they can as always 🙂

[versed jay]

Something else is wrong with armor, and I tired to clip it, but I’ll try again tonight if it happens again, got 2 shot by a P4 from the front and we was in a 76

[finite berry]

Ben following the lead dev into holidays valid, but extremely poor timing lmfao

[fluid pawn]

To reassure you, everything sent to me so far has been passed the way of the dev team, and a member of T17 will be in the Discord

[fluid pawn]

@finite berry just the U19 dev who was away ahah. U18 is here and working on hotfix stuff 🙂

[finite berry]

I was just joking 😄

[fluid pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-wipe-gif-16574265568803907770

Ahaha

[feral vine]

@fluid pawn I've had the game for 3 years, can I get a refund

[feral vine]

AI doesnt need vacations, why you lying ben

[fluid pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/blocked-kid-basketball-nope-gif-16094061

[fluid pawn]

A major reboot is needed I'm afraid. This version needs some italian sun, wine and pasta to proceed

[wicked igloo]

So does update 18 so it seems

[fickle scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-25423496

Ben's dm's this morning

[finite berry]

Ouch

[versed jay]

I’m still confused on what community asked for these changes cause iv never seen none of this in the #1098158460463480842 list, far opposite tbf, limit satchels, make armor better, open hatches on and on and on,
T17 “Here you hey tank tinker” wtf 🤣

[fluid pawn]

Thought I'd have a chilled day and be able to pack for holiday peacefull. Instead....

[versed jay]

And fix the light issue on the face 🤦‍♂️

[feral vine]

T17 tried reworking Ben and crashed his servers

[past veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1320450047002939428/1339546314635214879/attachment.gif

Ben, it's fine. I'll take over duties

[fickle scaffold]

uh oh

[midnight mortar]

Well there are differing opinions on those topics.

[oak current]

Didnt we have a guy for when Ben is on vacation? This guy?

(Yes I saved that image Ben )

[haughty flare]

Unfortunately that's what happens when you work for a company that has zero industry talent, purchasing a game they're unable to properly support, pushes updates without testing them and gaslights the community at every turn. But sure, enjoy your vacation.

[fickle scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-this-guy-gets-it-got-it-gif-16228296

[feral vine]

I just wanted tanks to not get stuck on buckets

[vale garnet]

I just wanted the factions and maps to be actually balanced 😂

[versed jay]

Yes but, I never seen any one want a tank tinker 🤣
Let’s hid behind this barn and change our tank configuration, the realism is real 😂

[fickle scaffold]

add omaha and panthers into worms WMD and leave it there probably the best we can actually expect to happen,

[fluid pawn]

Tinker was not added to the game btw 🫡

[versed jay]

YET

[feral vine]

I just wanted 2/3 of the maps to not cause my Xbox to explode every 5 minutes

[worthy charm]

But... but... they didnt even do the tinkerer. They actually did listen. 🥲

[vale garnet]

I would still like to know how the ADS FOV slider actually works, because it seems to me as though it actually just sets your FOV to its corresponding hipfire FOV.

For example if it’s on 60, you’re getting the ADS FOV That you would’ve had with 60 overall FOV before

Not actually 60 FOV itself when you ADS

[versed jay]

Yea cause building your own reload station and repair station is any better….

[vale garnet]

I actually like the rep station one

Tankers often have to call for inf to come build it for them now they just need the supps

[feral vine]

If t17 came out and said they were deleting el alamein. All would be forgiven

[vale garnet]

There are things about this update I do actually like, but a lot of it doesn’t make any sense? Like even if it’s a good idea it doesn’t have any logic as to why they picked that specific thing

[versed jay]

I liked the original better

[west berry]

what the hell is going on with tank collision? is this a bug?

[fickle scaffold]

Or if they said they were selling the IP i'd be happy 😂

[fickle scaffold]

along with the other 200+ reported bugs since the update

[vale garnet]

Like whatever dev decided arty strike was a good idea has never played a second of HLL and you can’t convince me otherwise

[grizzled kiln]

You could say the same about the tanks

[versed jay]

It is a good idea if you take out the payable artillery and make a longer cool down

[grizzled kiln]

Would take all of a couple of minutes of testing to see how broken they are now

[vale garnet]

The tanks I’m not mad at I like the 2 tank limit and the cooldown we need to see how it works in games.

The bugs are meh tanks are always bugged to hell

Making medium viable is cool too

[grizzled kiln]

Go drive the Panther and get back to me

You obviously haven't..

[midnight mortar]

@fluid pawn I wouldn't take all the hate to heart on the internet you'll get mixed opinions of all sorts. The crashing is quite unfortunate and shouldn't be happening with a title of this scale. Alas, hopefully it will be fixed soon. Enjoy your holiday, and thanks for being so actively engaged with the community.

FYI, this is a small thing for the future, but it'd be interesting to see you guys engage on the marketing front with some of the tournament finals, for example you could have a sponsored tournament with HLL Vietnam game keys (for the 49 winners of the final match) to promote the new game launch. You tap up your 'war correspondents' and provide some basic branding overlays + plaster it all over youtube / twitch. The marketing spend here is small, but the impact would be really healthy for game longevity + eyeballs on the new launch.

[vale garnet]

I do not drive tanks, especially not the Panther because it’s banned in comp

[worthy charm]

Its a way to strong and normal arty should have been taken out. Not to mention the garrisons...

[feral vine]

You can have the old version but only with the armor rework

[feral vine]

Mediums were always viable

[versed jay]

We couldn’t drive off the road over an open berm on PHL

[vale garnet]

Against heavies? Absolutely not

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/serious-gif-18592741

[wicked igloo]

Skill issue

[vale garnet]

I think this update does prove 2 things:

the devs don’t play the game

T17 wish they bought PS instead

[fluid pawn]

Appreciate this ❤️ Glad that you guys are like the activeness of the community engagement (even if game related stuff isn't perfect)

The crashing is something we absolutely don't want to happen and are working hard to resolve ASAP.

In terms of tournament finals and marketing, this is something I am certainly keen to do more of. If you have any suggestions, drop me a DM and I'll see what can be done once back from holiday 🙂

[feral vine]

Thats 100% skill issue

[vale garnet]

Yes being one tapped is a skill issue k

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-computer-notebook-explaning-gif-21152267

[feral vine]

Have you tried not putting your rear to the heavies face? Or you know, positioning and flanking

[vale garnet]

Have you ever played comp?

Front peek and you’re just as dead

[worthy charm]

Ty for saying that, hearing it from a better players makes me realise how bad I am.

[feral vine]

Yup im the number one tanker in the US

Check the leaderboards

[fickle scaffold]

So do ye want a "realistic" ww2 shooter or a comp game where you bounce shells? Personally... i just want a game that works

[vale garnet]

NA opinion, immediately useless

[feral vine]

Thats racist

[fickle scaffold]

As they're the biggest playerbase... i doubt it

[feral vine]

A game that works does sound way better

[worthy charm]

At least he didnt make a Xbox joke...

[vale garnet]

I mean yeah console is even worse

They’re about 2 years behind PC

[feral vine]

Thats being generous

[wicked igloo]

Yet your game doesn't work the same as ours

[worthy charm]

Cause I can play without issues?

As long I use DX11 that is.

[vale garnet]

DX12 for life

I love my 200 FPS and monitor settings 😂

[wicked igloo]

So the game doesn't crash and the tanks work fine

[worthy charm]

Yes and No

The Tanks work the same and we all know how they work rn.

Driving need improvements asap.

[feral vine]

I mean they couldn't handle a heavy with a medium so probably not

[wicked igloo]

It would blow there mind if they saw what a tetrarch can do (could)

[cosmic pilot]

I had a blast with the T-34 on Stalingrad last night, I don't know what y'all are on about 👀

[vale garnet]

Smoke glitch still works so make the tanks fly

[mellow knoll]

It’s mainly the Panther, Tiger and Sherman that has issues rn.

[cosmic pilot]

Also, the extra infantry cover on Stalingrad is BS

[vale garnet]

Anti grav tanks can’t get stuck

[worthy charm]

The T34 doesnt stall as badly im 4th gear?

I only drove a Tiger and Luchs yesterday...

[feral vine]

Checkmate buckets

[mellow knoll]

The stalling really isn’t as bad as a problem like the collisions lol

People can easily get over the stalling by changing how they drive

[grizzled kiln]

They actually managed to break the only tank that wasn't broken at all. The Tiger. That is an accomplishment I mush admit

[cosmic pilot]

No, it only stalls when climbing steep inclines

[worthy charm]

That open to discussing... i dont like it personally, but if they say its necessary for further reworks then ok.

[grizzled kiln]

Now the Tiger is getting stuck on things it would never get stuck on before..Come on..what the..

[grizzled kiln]

Yeah that part is easy.

[vale garnet]

Have you tried lower gears

[mellow knoll]

I prefer it to how it was. Last time I hardly even used any other gears because 4th did literally everything I needed it to. It felt a lot more arcade.

[cosmic pilot]

Yes, it will not climb steep banks like in the Soviet HQ on Stalingrad

[vale garnet]

I mean… that sounds like you just need to not try driving up a cliff

[mellow knoll]

I guarantee if you tried driving a real panther like it was in HLL it’d kill itself in less than 5 mins xD

Feels a lot more clunky and like a proper machine now

Apart from the obvious fact that it can go for a flying lesson over the slightest bump

[cosmic pilot]

Yes and no

[grizzled kiln]

Drove a P4 on El Alamain yesterday and had no issues getting around. Does take some getting used to with the gears, but constantly getting stuck on weird sh*t is frustrating. I mean, in some ways it's better than before ,because it was really bad. But still.

I'd like to know what the dev responsible for the Panther update was thinking ? Obviously 0 testing involved

[mellow knoll]

Yeah obviously no one tested the collisions which is wild

[feral vine]

They should have added fall damage to vehicles. Make the community really hate tanks more

[mellow knoll]

HAHAHA

That’s great

[grizzled kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-go-away-stop-kid-annoyed-gif-17209383

Don't give them any ideas !!!

[warm flax]

anyone getting UE crash after update?

[vale garnet]

Yeah a couple times

[feral vine]

All the tank rework did was keep recons at the top of the tier still

[pliant roost]

Yo y does the game stink now

[cosmic pilot]

Why does the entire feedback section read like click bait

[echo karma]

Cuz it is

Nobody reads reddit bro

[cosmic pilot]

The discord feedback section

[echo karma]

Obviously. Again no body reads that sht but Ben bro. Chill

Wait 2 weeks to get a hotfix that fixes one crash and 10 more bugs squeak in somehow on a hotfix

[cosmic pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/boljizivot-uskokovic-jezdimir-sinisa-pavic-teasing-gif-17839658

[echo karma]

Bro it's been 3 yrs now. We know thw routine. They give us silent treatment then gaslight us into thinking it's our fault the game is borked

[cosmic pilot]

No.
Devs add poorly implemented, good changes to the game.
The players complain about the good changes.
The devs revert the good stuff.
We're left with the bad stuff.

It's because of the players that we can't have nice things

[echo karma]

They doing better than skate tho. I crash every time in the tutorial

[lavish sparrow]

the entire movement system got gutted because people were overly attached to BMs bandaid solution of breaking the knees of trained soldiers.

the HLL community absolutely is a big part of why HLL sucks

[echo karma]

I liked the dive thingy. I didn't like the move speed. It was too fast and broke alotta things

I mean you could outrun tanks

[lavish sparrow]

Because the tanks are also broken and making them go their irl speeds caused the physics to break

[cosmic pilot]

Because tanks were too slow

[silk igloo]

Move speed would've been fine if satchels didn't exist, and if move speed had some inertia so you couldn't dodge bullets like a maniac

[echo karma]

Another thing they changed on the whim without saying anything

[cosmic pilot]

Inertia systems suck

They feel wrong

[lavish sparrow]

And because the HLL playerbase is totally allergic to a stamina system for some reason

[echo karma]

Play s44 n drink water 24/7

[pliant roost]

Too much running required

[cosmic pilot]

For some reason, devs only implement inertia as linear acceleration instead of trying to model how people can actually move their body

[echo karma]

Bunch of fart sniffers in here

[silk igloo]

At the time I suggested to just copy the tac sprint from cod. We could have even faster run speed than we had that way

[cosmic pilot]

Stop farting

[lavish sparrow]

Good movement is harder than it looks, but even someting as simple as counterstrike avoids zigzagging without feeling bad

[broken shoal]

im not active on this chat but lately i been here everyday and the same 3 people COMPLAIN EVERYDAY. Crazy. Some dedication to a game you dont like

[silk igloo]

"lately" as in the last 6 years

i like the game though

[oak current]

oh theres some people that dont even own the game and are just here for the drama 😄

[echo karma]

I have like 1k hrs. I love the game. But I liked it better with BM. Least they tell me it's broken and a pos. Get gud

Will not be buying V tho at all. Worst dev team I've ever seen. They beat concord bro

[broken shoal]

Good. See you tomorrow writing the same sentences.

[silk igloo]

I really like all the small QoL things T17 is doing though. Things that seemed impossible before, like practice range, salvaging, ammo depots, adjustable match timers etc

[echo karma]

Yeah those but not these past 4 updates. Bro. Test the game before push a major update

[oak current]

Why are you replying to me then when I talk about people who dont own the game? 👀
Weird people being weird.

[echo karma]

I assumed you said I don't own the game and I'm only here to complain.

[feral vine]

I'd like it more if it actually worked

[echo karma]

Yall don't complain nothing gonna change. Buy there new dlc

[grizzled kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-no-never-nah-naw-gif-1191255073758669162

[rancid minnow]

Seen some real odd ones with U18. Sound of guy loading an AT gun over and over, but the is no gun or solider appearing, just the sound effects.

[worthy charm]

Because complaining ever changed something to the better. Lol

[feral vine]

Sonic movie. Checkmate

[worthy charm]

Huh?

Sry the movie world is outside of my interst.

Either way feedback < complaining over 10h in a generell chat and thinking it useful.

[feral vine]

When the sonic the hedgehog trailer dropped for the original movie, there was mass outcry about the character design and the studio redid the entire cgi for it.

For video games, just recently look at battlefield 2042. Still a garbage game but the complaints drove it back to some what original battlefield design. You're under estimating the power consumers hold

[winged briar]

Please just bring tanks back to what they were

[echo karma]

Your wallet matters. Just don't buy trash t17 games

[dusty bolt]

Can we please get an ETA on a hot fix.

[echo karma]

Whats crazy is no hotfix asap for crashes yet they wanna split dev teams to work on a new game.

[finite berry]

No, Ben is on vacation

[echo karma]

Friday when the game dies

[proven knoll]

Having read all your posts I think you're being a bit of a drama llama. I play lots and noticed very little if any issues with the previous three. This one, yeah bit frame lossy on Stalingrad (which looked great BTW) and then a server crashed on a different map.

Unfortunate, but it's not worth the salt.

[finite berry]

He clearly is a drama llama

[proven knoll]

Like I said like I said.... Drama llama.

[echo karma]

Just because your not having issues doesn't mean others aren't.

[finite berry]

There are issues, you are overdramatising nevertheless lol

[echo karma]

Vast majority of players are having crashing issues and servers are crashing

[grizzled kiln]

Vast majority even..lol

[echo karma]

Of the 2k players mb

[proven knoll]

I didn't deny there were issues with this release but I didn't see any or many with the previous 3. Certainly nothing to get upset about, if you should ever get upset about a video game....

[echo karma]

Go look in feedback if you wanna see bro.

[proven knoll]

Yeah it's unfortunate. I'm sure they're aware and fixing it. That's how live service games work.

[echo karma]

Tanks upside, yeah there's no issues here

[grizzled kiln]

Nothing unusual. All updates have broken things.

Same old same old..

[echo karma]

Just like we get the silent treatment every time too

[grizzled kiln]

Nothing new there either.

You're just stating the obvious now. It's always been like this. And no, BM wasn't any better.

[echo karma]

Worse actually. They'd go months without saying anything

[gray garden]

Uh yeah, that's like.. the limits of the job position.

lol

My b g, other folks here are serious tho

[wind shore]

[echo karma]

Never

[proven knoll]

I sure folk will get the reassurance they apparently need once they've collected a list of issues.

[cosmic harbor]

Pfffff

[echo karma]

I suggested that to Ben. Says he can't tell me

[gray garden]

Nothing ever harpoons...

[worthy charm]

2 days ago we had a dev here you missed him.

tragic

frfr

[echo karma]

@lost pulsar all mighty save us for we have sinned

[cosmic pilot]

The main reason zigzaging looks bad is probably client side prediction.

[echo karma]

Burn these heretics!

[oak current]

honeypot taking ages

are they learning not to post in honeypot?

they are adapting

eh account that clicked on phishing stuff or old phishing account that "finally" was triggered

mmh

no honeypottery

🦶

I think this is a foot

[pine ember]

Scammer again

[worthy charm]

huh

who

[nova pivot]

Mmmm

[worthy charm]

where

Baguetee?

[nova pivot]

You

[nova pivot]

Delete france

[worthy charm]

:delete France

Doenst work

sorry

[pine ember]

Yeeessss

[past vortex]

well, its probably not here, but somewhere they do get those stupid ideas

[nova pivot]

Aaa but the /ban Sparta works

[echo karma]

Wgo

[worthy charm]

Its dot ban

I wont do it

[nova pivot]

Try it on muph

[worthy charm]

of course

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/do-not-press-priest-red-button-tempted-afraid-gif-5712598

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-now-gif-8259067036335066552

[worthy charm]

I cant, otherwise im the next abusive mod

[nova pivot]

Be totalitarian

[past vortex]

wdym otherwise

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/emmanuelmacron-macron-enmarche-france-paris-gif-19241466

[worthy charm]

Valid valid

I cant say say anything against that

:}

[echo karma]

It's Ben. We know

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-dog-hug-dog-question-mark-dog-question-mark-gif-14144426802562365039

[pine ember]

When delete France?

[haughty geode]

Now

[nova pivot]

1940

[pine ember]

Hoppla

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/art-design-illustration-loop-3d-gif-4161255593678500916

[pine ember]

1871

[haughty geode]

Yea thats better

[nova pivot]

Deleting France is always good

[haughty geode]

Hehe

[nova pivot]

Doesn't really matter who deletes it

[cold birch]

Since this new update it keeps loosing connection to servers for everyone…

[pine ember]

Indeed

[leaden fiber]

that's because a lot of communities havent figured out that its RCON that's causing the crashes

you have to disable it to keep it stable

until they fix

[cold birch]

What is RCON?

[leaden fiber]

the admin tool used to set map rotations, do admin things, etc

[cold birch]

So it’s admin causing it? They need to fix it 🙄

[leaden fiber]

no, its the admin tool

[grizzled kiln]

crcon.community rcon

[leaden fiber]

not admins themselves

[cold birch]

So it’s like a bug?

[leaden fiber]

yes

[cold birch]

😭

[dusty bolt]

Thats not even true lol

[leaden fiber]

its true on our server

[dusty bolt]

Theres communities that have it disabled that are still crashing

Thats not for everyone

[leaden fiber]

we turned it off, no more crashy

[cold birch]

I hope they fix it soon I can’t deal, shits stressful

[leaden fiber]

if its not doing it for everyone, it certainly could still be the reason for the servers Grigzy is playing on though

[junior sleet]

Nah new update is buns I keep crashing just turn the game back to how it was, it was better

[cold birch]

I rate the update but not the crashing smh

[echo karma]

It's all Ben's fault. Blame him. T17 told me this

[leaden fiber]

i dont see how we can continue like this while the bugs are being fixed. t17 gotta do a rollback

[grizzled kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[leaden fiber]

this happened what, 2? years ago with an update where they had to roll it back it was so bad? this update is worse

[grizzled kiln]

There's been many broken updates 😄

[wind shore]

New Stalingrad now plays better

[echo karma]

There silence means there working on Vietnam and they don't care

[leaden fiber]

inexcusable that features that seemingly got no testing got put into production. if I did this at my job as tech lead and deployment manager i'd be terminated

[next willow]

Its the perfect update guys. Just in time for battlefield 6. Now i can confidently uninstall HLL to free up space

[cold birch]

Makes me want to uninstall can’t lie

[echo karma]

Hll worst managed game since concord

[cyan pelican]

Has there been an official statement about the current state of the update yet?

[next willow]

I believe they took off

[leaden fiber]

i already know 4 people who have uninstalled

[echo karma]

Why waste your time on this crashfest. Buy gta6 and you can spend 100$ on a jet2 holiday

[pine ember]

Hahaha

[echo karma]

Not me bro. Nah. Never. I never do Ben like that. Ever bro.

Fr tho miss wombat

[grizzled kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-wombat-scratch-butt-itchy-gif-15538911

[echo karma]

Least wombat woulda spammed emote in here all day Ben

[cold birch]

Mass uninstallation???

[echo karma]

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/they-had-us-in-the-first-half-not-gonna-lie-gif-13620240

[pine ember]

Depends, I have to play for a few rounds first

[leaden fiber]

despite all the issues this game is still fun when it works but I can't lie that after 5 years of this i'm tired and with less and less of my friends playing this game. the reasons for me to stick around are dwindling and every disaster of an update just chips away at my desire to keep playing

[cold birch]

Exactly!!

[leaden fiber]

'83 is right around the corner to scratch the itch for a game like Hell Let Loose. BF6 is also upon us

im definitely going to be playing this less and less

[grizzled kiln]

If the itch is for a ww2 game, then 83 won't cut it tho 😄

[cold birch]

Was hoping more and more but nope…

[grizzled kiln]

but looking forward to it

[empty jewel]

Does anyone know why my game keeps saying " no compatible servers " when I go to the server list

[finite berry]

Something with the filter?

[next willow]

Just uninstall it for 2 weeks til they fix it . Normally does the trick

[novel geyser]

did you download the PTE rather than the base game

[worn elbow]

what are the new mechanics guys?

[sturdy quarry]

broken

[worn elbow]

bro

did they add rolling on the ground or something

[covert elbow]

No?

[worn elbow]

so then what is the new mechanic

or did they add multiple

[pine ember]

Thank god I was never a big armor player

[cold birch]

Forget everything you knew about tanks…

[echo karma]

I think dude downloaded update 17

You know what's weird tho, I ain't seen Ben since this morning bro

[empty jewel]

I have no filters on and it just says " no compatible servers found , please try again later "
Was saying this yesterday aswell😩 Anyone know a fix? Ima try reinstalling it

[covert elbow]

Read the patch notes, there’s no new mechanics apart from a commander arty ability

[finite berry]

What about the dismantle wrecks and the changing tank camo? And the forward repair station?

[obtuse dragon]

Specific repair for tanks and new command ability

[worn elbow]

thx

[covert elbow]

I’m not above gaslighting

[worn elbow]

air strike?

[obtuse dragon]

Also, you can Take your supply drops if you placed them in a bad spot

[obtuse dragon]

Nope, arty barrage

[worn elbow]

well, hll just said fatal error and crashed

what a good thing

[covert elbow]

Yea the games broken

I wouldn’t recommend playing until the next patch due to the sheer amount of crashing

[worn elbow]

it better not be

[worn elbow]

f them updates

[cold birch]

Valid

[echo karma]

Why it smell like fart up in here?

[cold birch]

I smell a turd

[sturdy quarry]

cos its the same old whinge bags whinging over the same old issues?

(i include myself)

[echo karma]

But I like the commander arty. Don't fix that.

[past vortex]

as always the crashes are not universal
could play perfectly fine yesterday

[obtuse dragon]

I still don't know How you guys get the fatal error

[echo karma]

That mfer ain't no joke bro

Delete that side of the map. Eye captain

[obtuse dragon]

I used to get it when the game uses a Lot of ram for no reason, But I didn't got it on the new update

[worn elbow]

why does the new inteface look so much better

[past vortex]

get out

[echo karma]

Stank up in here

Who farted?

[junior sleet]

Just crashed after 30 minutes things of playing game is terrible

[past vortex]

also if muph could take his coprophile tendencies somwhere else that would be nice

[echo karma]

Bro just mute me. No one cares.

Also you need to take a poopoo. That's the stank boy

I just talked to Ben. He said yall be safe. Got a jet2 flight to catch soon.

[feral vine]

Why i haven't played in 8 months

[covert elbow]

Me as well

I played one game of Stalingrad, crashed, and deleted the game

[past vortex]

dx12?

[covert elbow]

PS5

[past vortex]

i really recommend dx11 nowadays

[covert elbow]

It’s in my name dawg

[worthy charm]

Thats worse than dx12

When PC?

[covert elbow]

The day you transfer me $3k

[past vortex]

yea i always supress the thought someone would play on consoles, sry

[worthy charm]

Nah, you will just use the money for something stupid like food or healthcare.

[past vortex]

it probably IS dx12 :}

[covert elbow]

Nah. I’m planning on dying by 25 so I wouldn’t waste it on useless crap like that

[feral vine]

Lemme go drop a grand to play this $40 game that still will barely work

[worthy charm]

With a PC you can play many more games than barely work.

[past vortex]

well it applies to all games.....

and...
it also applies to much more stuff that doesnt even exist on console :}

[worthy charm]

Thats an genius plan

Please dont

[woven tiger]

Roger

[feral vine]

Not owning a gaming pc is the only way I curb my pirating habits

[worthy charm]

Btw your Profile picture reminds me of a game im still waiting on.

When The Elder Scrolls VI?

[woven tiger]

@worthy charm whose picture

[worthy charm]

You know who that is?

The person on the picture not the discord guy

6 times the detail

[woven tiger]

@worthy charm negative also HAHA what an awkward cropping job

[nova pivot]

@pine ember

There is grass 👍

[azure heath]

what!

?*

[nova pivot]

There is grass in Dolgiy ravine

[wooden cloud]

So am I crazy or did the issues get worse today? I feel like there’s already an increase in crashes client side on top of the server crashing.

[empty steppe]

Goood morning

[nova pivot]

Hello cakey

[empty steppe]

Don’t call me that again

[worthy charm]

its evening tho

[nova pivot]

🥺