mess-hall

[heady escarp]

Honestly, I would not give tank crews their own supply crate... it will make team work less common

[potent burrow]

Im literally reading off the log

[silk igloo]

it has to be an error in the patch notes. it's not the only one either.

[heady escarp]

Was the Luch nerfed??

[potent burrow]

for the sake of the luchs i hope so, the last thing that poor thing needs is a nerf

[heady escarp]

Luch can't even destroy tanks

[pine ember]

Time for the Armor rework

[silk igloo]

i hope the new value is not an error and you can rapid fire light tank shells out of it, lmao

[potent burrow]

the luchs already stuggles at killing infantry now

especially at distance

[analog apex]

here we go... 2GB update

[silk igloo]

oh please be true, im giggling just wishing it to be real

[past veldt]

What did the dead cows do to deserve being removed?

[worthy charm]

Kind of...

[analog apex]

whaaaat?
which ones?

[worthy charm]

Is more a change which keeps it the same..

[arctic rampart]

Still reading through it, looks decent.
Although who tf rendered those videos?
They're rendered to 1080p, but the base capture was like 720p, it's blurry af

[past veldt]

Utah per patch notes (right at the end)

[analog apex]

why, like... why

[pine ember]

Foy and Utah

[wind shore]

Hey

[pine ember]

So no more flank Steak before the Match

[past veldt]

It's not like those maps even had performance issues either

[pine ember]

I like juicy flanks

[wind shore]

So U18 dropped

It means… next U19 and hot fix of U18

[dim snow]

Can’t see the update anywhere on Xbox ?

[tardy heron]

Ok so it's not just me, I just restarted my Xbox as well and I have no update and can still launch the game normally

[worthy charm]

That what I said as well. 1080p is weird...

[dim snow]

Same here.

[brittle delta]

New patch, still no fix to some microphones not working with HLL

[arctic rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1036120241366896691/1425064419070574683/image.png?ex=68e63a29&is=68e4e8a9&hm=1752021d669b37c3f9e41ddd4eb3073387b30918276957657d3d438c34dc2bcd&

So you can't pick it up, but if you do pick it up and it's partially used you get some cd refunded

[silk igloo]

probably means that you cant pick up 25 supplies and put it down, but your CD is reduced by that amount, so halved in this case

[hardy oasis]

Looks like a mistake in the dev brief, you can pickup used supplies now

[arctic rampart]

Okay, I get what you mean now. Although it's a tad bit unclear

[tardy heron]

You guys on PC that have it

[latent cloak]

Xbox slippin

[arctic rampart]

@fluid pawn Darling, love you for this one alone <3. We're like 1/5th of the way there to imploment what we need in the tac map!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1036120241366896691/1425064991093952594/image.png?ex=68e63ab2&is=68e4e932&hm=7756664a1a5b0b06fd1f40409b7caf28d9ea739e4bb3d9f1819d01d5b6e93147&

[silk igloo]

isn't "enemy airhead" new too?

[tardy heron]

Yes

[arctic rampart]

Yep.

[silk igloo]

they just forgot to mention it 😛

[latent cloak]

Yeah. You can also now scrap vehicles from either side and it will add resources to your team thats interesting

[brittle delta]

My HyperX headphones work fine with other games and such, but HLL doesn't like the microphone for some reason

[boreal holly]

Are you watching the videos directly on the blog page? it looks like there is a weird overlay on the website that is making the videos look blurry

[analog apex]

still no Commander option nor switch teams in the EXPLORE mode... can't test what I need properly

[worthy charm]

Enemy nodes next please

Give those a longer timer

[arctic rampart]

Although, I must ask.
If "enemy supplies" is visible to "team", then why tf do we not have inf markers at the same level?

"But sawlid, the normies need to seee ittt"

But then f off and make the supply marker also SL's only, to have that level of communication required.

[analog apex]

this!
no clue why they ever do A but not do B

[worthy charm]

5 Minutes for nodes who dont go anywhere is kinda bad...

[silk igloo]

that's the commander's UI since "request supply box" isnt there

[arctic rampart]

I had the same thought, but check out https://youtu.be/YjhviWZj-F8

It's ducked on YT as well, so clearly a recording/rendering issue.

[arctic rampart]

Even worse then kekw

This needs to be SL level

Major Winters isn't on the field to mark enemy supplies, he's in the back.
Lt. Spiers needs to be the one to mark the damn supplies, cause he's the one that spotted them.

[silk igloo]

Probably it is, but just visible for your squad and officers, like all the other enemy marks. Commander has teamwide enemy marks

[arctic rampart]

Yeah, but that means that the enemy supplies marker is tied to being placed solely by the commander to be team-wide.
So:

1. It's dumb, because he can only place 1 of these on the entire map, but in a standard game you might see loads of supplies all over the place, especially in more open maps where you can't instantly deal with them like Kursk or whatever.
2. He's not on the damn field, so we (officers) will have to ping the thing with something else (like observer marker) for the commander then to place his marker for the whole team and then I need to delete my marker so my guys aren't confused and/or so I can use it elsewhere.

Feels like an oversight.

[wind shore]

Dear T17! Thank you for that update, you still continue making us happy! @fluid pawn Thanks ☺️

[arctic rampart]

Or for Nr. 2. it'll be even worse and I'll have some boomer american yapping for 5 minutes as he tries to explain the coordinates of where the supplies are (PS, he's off by 1 grid usually)

[silk igloo]

We'll see. It'd be new if commander got enemy marks that officers dont. I'm sure officers get it too.

[arctic rampart]

Hopefully.

That being said, the salvaging mechanic I think is total 🔥. Like coolest idea I haven't thought of myself yet.

[tardy heron]

Dear T17... Xbox hasn't gotten the update still 🥺

Where my update

[arctic rampart]

Blame Microsoft

[silk igloo]

have you tried turning it off and on again

[analog apex]

speak for yourself 🙂

[tardy heron]

Yes... I actually have

[wind shore]

I’m just speak for myself! I think it’s excellent update!

[latent cloak]

Not just him

[arctic rampart]

It's by far better than anything we've seen in a while, that's for sure.

[analog apex]

making "us" happy was not just speaking for yourself 🙂

[novel geyser]

holy moly the main menu

[boreal holly]

thanks for the feedback, i'll take a look to see if we can improve this going forward

[worthy charm]

Doenst just feel like one.

[hazy owl]

I get it, picking icons is not easy. 😄 artillery the same as katyusha

[meager timber]

Don't worry, all the communities with lots of people that have thousands of hours are the same. Check out the CS2-scene for more details

[spring wagon]

12.5gb update nice

[wind shore]

You the guy who made Cossack DLC? Looks awesome!! I like it! Thanks!

Still, Team17 improves!

[boreal holly]

No, but i'll pass on the feedback

[ashen falcon]

Yep

[wind shore]

If you can, you can say - the Cossack hat has a bit wrong ribbon color - white. Like White Army Cossack from 1915, Red Army Cossacks had golden ribbon. At all - DLC looks awesome! Always improves and better than previous! 10/10

[worthy charm]

People not crashing out over having a dev in chat is crazy.

[past veldt]

The new artillery strike kills garrisons because it's just used the Katyusha strike mechanics. Gg. Well played Devs. I had my hopes too high

[worthy charm]

Poor man will get 30+ pings by kedo now.

[wind shore]

And thank you!! I love T17 and the game

[pine ember]

Dear devs, please make HLL more Hardcore again!!

[arctic rampart]

Seriously? xD

[finite berry]

mf says he's loving the update, but only talks about a singular cosmetic DLC, smh

[past veldt]

Genuine insanity from the developers 😂

[worthy charm]

The arty isnt the same, but yes its pretty similar.

[arctic rampart]

3 garries spotted - 3 garries down with 300 supps kekw

[pine ember]

Funny isnt it?

[past veldt]

Not a single brain cell went into considering the balance of this one

[wind shore]

I like everything

[hazy owl]

I am not going to lie I kind of preffered the BLACK screen on death it was also kind of a break for my eyes

[pine ember]

Yes

[analog apex]

the initial purple glasses still up, but no worries... they will fall down eventually, the more he will play

[silk igloo]

If it's the same as katyusha, then it kills everything, including OPs and forts?

[amber idol]

"guys lets break the game so people are forced to buy our HLL vietnam reskin in a few months!"

[arctic rampart]

Yeah I was about to say, the update overall is a decent W, but there are a few lingering things like that arty strike being OP and the map marker thing.

[past veldt]

Probably can kill tanks too

[pine ember]

People care way too much about the DLCs

[arctic rampart]

💯 💯 💯 💯 💯

[sturdy quarry]

ha its great

[analog apex]

usually the peeps who thank the devs so much here or on Steam, are gone from the game in under a month

[hazy owl]

I must say KATUSHYA just become irrelevant. You can stack 3 Artillery strikes on the top of each other and BOY OH BOY 😄

[worthy charm]

Development will continue as usual, there are 2 diffrent teams.

[amber idol]

im so glad the devs increased the number of rockets it takes to kill mediums and heavies when there was already a massive faction imbalance because you can front/side pen the allied medium and side pen the allies heavy but you can only rear pen the P4, Tiger, and Panther. 🔥

[hardy oasis]

Artillery strike AND Katushya 🔥

[pine ember]

Less DLC, more fixes please

[amber idol]

It's like the devs don't even play their own game its honestly hilarious.

[arctic rampart]

Best noob commander bait to exist 😄

[silk igloo]

Maybe people will FINALLY play support when they realize that the commander can only output far less garrisons than the enemy can take out

[fluid pawn]

It's currently in the Microsoft publish queue and should be with you imminently 🙂

[arctic rampart]

You want to tell me you can't side pen a p4 with a rocket?

[tardy heron]

Yaaa thank you for the update

[dire coral]

What are garrisons?

[finite berry]

Spawn locations

Of a squad, I think

[worthy charm]

The problem is that you can pen the front of a Sherman with a Panzerschreck.

[worthy charm]

Yes

[finite berry]

Lmao what

[thin scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/wrong-drumpf-trump-stupid-gif-6220235

[silk igloo]

100 munitions to destroy a free garry isnt even a good trade unless you're in the situation to benefit from it

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/bern-berndasbrot-dasbrot-mist-germantoast-gif-11944576

[arctic rampart]

Understandable problem, but that still makes the original statement incorrect on purpose

[worthy charm]

As I said over a hundred times by now. The Bazooka has weaker penentration back from the days the US had 3 rockets. It was a balancing thing which now is a left over which makes life unnecessary hard for US AT.

[thin scarab]

100 is cheap. If you think there could be a garry you just use it, if not you only lost 100

[worthy charm]

Indeed.

[cedar ore]

Wait so the luchs is even more useless now lol

[worthy charm]

In generel anyone having feedback for the tanks, please let it out in https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1425053075047055470

[amber idol]

incorrect on purpose? lol go and try to side pen a P4 with a bazooka you can't.

[arctic rampart]

Hill 400 offensive, US attacking first point.

German commander places 300 points worth of arty down.

And all the entry paths are locked for some time

[silk igloo]

well, we havent even seen the CD yet, could be huge

[worthy charm]

Its pretty much the same... So still really bad.

[wind shore]

Друны и фоги

[cedar ore]

I actually quite like it, just think the luchs has some serious haters in the dev team lmao

[vale garnet]

The arty strike is a bad idea, I think that needs to go

But actually like most of the patch at least in concept

[cedar ore]

Explosion damage is now 90 instead of 100 💔

[worthy charm]

Its a fun tank, but putting the can on a puma would be better

[worthy charm]

You wont believe me if I tell you what that point means...

:}

[cedar ore]

you’re joking

are you telling me that means the explosion of the tank when it’s killed??

[worthy charm]

EYYY you got it yourself

[cedar ore]

😭😭😭

[tardy heron]

Can someone @ me the update is up on console

[worthy charm]

xD

[thin scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[cedar ore]

Ok so the damage on it is slightly better then

[gloomy quartz]

What the hell I cant glitch through windows anymore?

[torn hound]

Yea i got you random gamer

[versed jay]

Umm it says no updates available, and I don’t see any DLCs

[cedar ore]

I stand corrected, thank you for restoring my faith in the luchs as a viable anti nothing tank ❤️‍🩹

[worthy charm]

Please look into #console-general-chat

ben said something there I think

[meager timber]

When is the winter warfare dlc available again. i just want to look cool

[gloomy quartz]

Whats the point of playing anymore

[worthy charm]

This

[slate canopy]

For the Xbox players from Ben himself

[finite berry]

Kedo hates this trick

[amber idol]

come on bro you gotta embrace your inner RP.

[wind shore]

Why ?

[gloomy quartz]

I cant get 90+ kills without my glitched roof spots man.

[thin scarab]

No rooftop Gaming anymore ?

[wind shore]

It’s Cossack uniform it’s fancy

[finite berry]

This now sounds like Ben will deliver the update to them personally lol

[shrewd egret]

the cammos are boring

[slate canopy]

Door to door service 😎

[gloomy quartz]

yes :(

[cedar ore]

I mean overall I quite like the look of these new changes

[wind shore]

DLC looks fancy and realistic and accurate

[thin scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/what-kevin-hart-what-kevin-hart-reaction-shocked-gif-3832740191813699179

[pine ember]

Not every uniform in WW2 was camo. We do not need more DLC anyways

[arctic rampart]

What was the update cycle more or less? U19 I'm guessing is something like end of winter?

[shrewd egret]

we need more dlcs actually

[latent cloak]

U19 november

[worthy charm]

November

[wind shore]

We need more DLC, put the reactions on this message if you agree

[pine ember]

No…

[shrewd egret]

looking at the erbenmuster it needs some more content like an peadot helmet and more webbings

[worthy charm]

probably till the end...

[arctic rampart]

Like the full major update U19 at the end of November?

[shrewd egret]

the webbings are kinda poopy

[latent cloak]

Thats the rumor

[silk igloo]

ah. the luchs cant drift anymore. it'll even stall if you try. my heart is broken

[arctic rampart]

I don't mean like a 10 sentence long bug fix update

[wind shore]

Agree!!

[meager timber]

Oh yeah we need gun skins. Gamma doppler G43 please

[worthy charm]

I think so, with SPGs and Smolensk

[latent cloak]

Yeah supposed to be smolensk in november

[arctic rampart]

I'd be suprised then

[shrewd egret]

gun skiins are meh

[pine ember]

Pea dot helmet is there despite there were no factory made Erbsenmuster helmet covers. Feldgrau is better anyways

[latent cloak]

And the mobile artillery

[wind shore]

We need tank GUARDS SKIN FOR T34 tank

[worthy charm]

Sooner than late November would be impressive.

[shrewd egret]

dawg feldgrau is overated

[novel geyser]

damn what they do to pavlovs house

its not pavlovs house anymore

[wind shore]

Changed it

[worthy charm]

Lol, Sparta said the same thing

[shrewd egret]

and we need more SS uniform variants

[wind shore]

It caused issues with perfomance

[pine ember]

SS camos are

[novel geyser]

they just reusing the same destoryed building

[atomic flame]

Lol, the artillery is always poked by recon so devs added artillery strikes to commander abilities. Now I'm never gonna find an arti squad.

[pine ember]

No

[novel geyser]

bit lame, the rest of the cover and clutter on the map is good

[shrewd egret]

why not? let's debate

[novel geyser]

but you cant change pavlovs house

[arctic rampart]

Just informing you all of these 2, very important, suggestions. I cannot believe they were ignored for a MAJOR update like this.
https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1375918936264147034
https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1354405710498103398

[sturdy quarry]

yeh why not just... fix the perf issues

[pine ember]

Because the SS only made up a small portion of the German army and we have their most common uniforms already

[worthy charm]

Because there is none?

[wind shore]

Друн ты шо

[shrewd egret]

are u fuxcking stupid?

[thin scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-sus-dog-gif-16333261138922424560

[pine ember]

No, I just know history

[shrewd egret]

its a DLC ofc not all people would buy it

and im talking about variants not quantity

[worthy charm]

Please remain respectful, this kind of wording isnt necessary.

[arctic rampart]

It's modeling time WASTED

[pine ember]

BTW <@&365680483276816385>

[atomic flame]

?

[wind shore]

I agree, DLC is 3% of soldiers

[lethal stream]

I attached 3KG to the tank barrel.

[pine ember]

We still dont need more

[shrewd egret]

this guy has an iq of a room temperature

[shrewd egret]

why not? Let's debate

[pine ember]

Hah funny

[arctic rampart]

.

[worthy charm]

Just stop at this point.

[pine ember]

Another one for the Block List

[brittle delta]

My system microphone settings say that HLL does access my microphone, but no-one can hear me

[worthy charm]

I wont say it again

[shrewd egret]

ofc u have nothing to say because u have nothing to argue

[wind shore]

DLC - it’s minority of soldiers like in real, it was not all, but just a few soldiers

[arctic rampart]

In the game, can you test your mic successfully?

[pine ember]

But he uses an SS uniform as his pp so i know what he’s up to

[shrewd egret]

we need foreign legion dlc

[brittle delta]

Tried the test, negative on the results

[shrewd egret]

average leftoid agenda

[faint portal]

[pine ember]

I have plenty to say, I just tend to ignore people like you. You won’t change your mind anyways

[wind shore]

Фог

[arctic rampart]

Then your input's ducked.
Re-specify the input in the game and make sure in windows your main mic is set as a default

[pine ember]

<@&365680483276816385> Please, I think it’s time to stop now

[faint portal]

Has anyone tried driving panther yet btw, that thing is BUSTED

[shrewd egret]

@wind shore theres so many ways to improve the SS dlc and the devs is lowkey too lazy to improve ti

[meager timber]

https://tenor.com/view/jegulitos-jegulitos-juanjo-gif-17746614288303669903

[wind shore]

Wdym improve

[pine ember]

„Huh let’s add more SS DLC yea“

[shrewd egret]

the oak leaf and plattenmuster cammo only has the top camoflauged

it would be cool if the trousers are also cammoflauged

[pine ember]

You can’t Even spell the german names correctly…

[shrewd egret]

so?

and it's even

[pine ember]

And platanenmuster has no camo pants…

[arctic rampart]

@worthy charm Just smite the kids

[wind shore]

We need:
Soviet M43 uniform,
More foreign troops for Germans,
And Soviet partisans maybe

[pine ember]

Just inform yourself on the uniforms before you demand them

[worthy charm]

Which one? :}

-# kidding

[wind shore]

Like Uzbeks Asians add them to Germans, Croatians Spanish French

Asian troops for Normandy, and Georgians

[shrewd egret]

Soviet partisans in Kursk is kinda stupid 🙏

[thin scarab]

We Need Hello kitty Tank DLC Skin

[shrewd egret]

or kharkov

[shrewd egret]

u mean the french SS?

[pine ember]

Ugh please no

[meager timber]

Desperately need waifu trinket on the rifles pls

[cedar ore]

PLEASE

[worthy charm]

lol

[shrewd egret]

@wind shore the tank skins can also be improved

[wind shore]

Not only SS, but for Berlin yes, it was SS, I meant for Eastern front - Wehrmacht

[shrewd egret]

like adding SS cammo's to it used majority by ace tankers

[arctic rampart]

Akeno Himejima right next to my mp40 ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

New suggestion incoming!!!

[junior cedar]

Black ops will have that 🦄

[thin scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/yuimetal-gif-2236335851178412850

[arctic rampart]

So will Battlefield 6, but only in like half a year when no one cares about "grounded realism" anymore

[worthy charm]

Battelfield 6 metioned, whole chat is ruined now...

[arctic rampart]

I was waiting to get smited as well, because I mentioned something that isn't HLL

[novel geyser]

not making yourself look any better saying that tbh

[junior cedar]

HLL for life!! None of this other stuff they put out

[faint portal]

Big update, but missed the most important thing

[thin scarab]

Naah I believe they learned. But we Can’t be 100% sure

[wind shore]

French unit for Wehrmacht which fought in 1941-1943, and if for Berlin it would be Charlemagne

[vale garnet]

Having SS units in the game is gonna be a hard no

[wind shore]

Spanish 250th Wehrmacht division

[thin scarab]

I tought you Gave them some feedback? 👀

[vale garnet]

Already enough Nazi RPers

[shrewd egret]

jokes on u we alreayd have SS units iin game

[pine ember]

These Kids don’t understand why

[wind shore]

Georgians Croatians French

[shrewd egret]

the LSSAH larp is real 🤑

[wind shore]

Soviets M43 uniform, Guards tank for Soviet would be dope

[faint portal]

I told them I need a hello kitty skin for my tiger and a gold camo for the luchs. T17 just don't listen to me 😭

[wind shore]

Some part of Leningrad units: Soviets has own insignia on tanks like Guards badge

[vale garnet]

The amount of people in HLL who wish they were in the SS but would actually be gassed by them is insane

[worthy charm]

Lets just not

[thin scarab]

Damn they Never Listen to feedback from the Community 🥲

[wind shore]

Imagine that they moved from Leningrad to Kursk. Is it real? Real

[arctic rampart]

So to end it all off...

When's the pacific coming?

[vale garnet]

Never

[tall kettle]

https://i.imgur.com/oqjthtn.png

[shrewd egret]

define untermensch

[pine ember]

Yes, only a very small percentage would have been able to join. They should just inform themselves

[junior cedar]

Vietnam…..

[faint portal]

Lmao

[shrewd egret]

What do you think is the defenition of Untermensch?

[wind shore]

Wrong. Nobody from them play it or just minority, most of them play CS2

[pine ember]

<@&365680483276816385>

[arctic rampart]

HLL: Vietnam only exists because of the huge amount of suggestions over time with pacific being mentioned 🔥

[shrewd egret]

these leftoids have an iq of a crippled urangutan

[sturdy quarry]

whats busted?

[shrewd egret]

go play roblox if u dont wanna see Erbenmuster cammo

jesus christ 🙏

[pine ember]

I think it needs to be ended here, please do something

[meager timber]

https://tenor.com/view/cooking-cook-chef-masterchef-lilb-gif-13910066

[thorny acorn]

hll x fortnite when

[wind shore]

Yeah and it’s not cause HLL, it’s cause world situation when rights got into power, so why those people come to games, but it has nothing to do with it. Games is games and should be non politics

[pine ember]

I’m Not 15 years old, i think you would fit better there

[wind shore]

And especially bring that into the game those replics, camouflages is camouflages and has nothing to do with such replics @shrewd egret you shouldn’t say that

[faint portal]

To me, it seems the front right fender is too close to the ground causing it to get stuck on absolutely everything

[gentle lintel]

It has been dealt with, move on please 🙏 ♥️

[latent cloak]

Xbox is up finally

[wind shore]

Agree

[faint portal]

I was gonna say this kid plays roblox 😂😂 I knew it hahahaha the memes write themselves

[vale garnet]

You’re adorable

[gentle lintel]

Rule 1) don’t say anything bad about Roblox

[novel geyser]

stalingrad soundscape is good
Feels like an improvement never noticed it all before

[thin scarab]

Then we should not have any uniforms from back then in a game just saying

[faint portal]

Bahahahahha yes sir

[thin scarab]

Best Game in the world

[gloomy quartz]

Where can I report bugs, Game keeps crashing

[arctic rampart]

We should talk about all the great, lawsuit worthy, things that happen within Roblox

[grizzled kiln]

Fixes the mediums only to break the Panther 🙁 RIP

[wind shore]

**Uniforms in the game - represent historical accuracy,

❗ Military uniforms are not a manifestation of Nazism or any other negative phenomenon; on the contrary, they have historical value and make a positive contribution to the Hell Let Loose community. Examples of manifestations of Nazism include: symbols, slogans, numerical slogans, quotes, etc.

And yes: - Dear members of the community,
-We suggest that you refrain from forming unfounded associations and absurd conclusions, and also not attribute any phenomena to Nazism without proper justification.**

This!

[tall kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-hammer-yoshi-mario-discord-gif-12444703281338986867

[worthy charm]

Real, my beloved panther

Can we have a silent minute?

xD

[sturdy quarry]

ya rekon just misaligned hitbox or summit

[gentle lintel]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1242767547321942036 -> https://support.team17.com/hell-let-loose/en 🙂

[sturdy quarry]

maybe the misaligned bridge back with a vengeance

[wind shore]

I guess today was an update?

What was in this update

[worthy charm]

Thats likely, wont see it on the field until they fix it.

[wind shore]

XD

[carmine pilot]

Average HLL update

[faint portal]

Definitely a bug for sure
I'm curious how yall are going to like the turning on armor now as well.
To me, seems the straight line speed is overall faster but turning in 4th stalls you for nearly every med and heavy. T34 especially stalls at anything over like 90 degrees in 4th gear

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/top-gun-top-gun-maverick-salute-tom-cruise-military-gif-26899454

[wooden cloud]

wait until you see both german and russian tanks stall in 4th gear turns and for some reason the US do not

[worthy charm]

Little Tom Cruise
(is that his name?)

[grizzled kiln]

Seriously ?? what the...

[wooden cloud]

Yup. No clue as to why, some cant even go 90 degrees and it's only in 4th.

[worthy charm]

Peek Hll code base moment

[sturdy quarry]

here i was hoping we had moved past not QAing anything... foolish me

[twilit citrus]

vollumetric fog, I heckin' love vollumetric fog, poor sight in a shooter game is peak

why was the building that's accesible and has these two cool entrances through the cellar replaced with the boring semi-accessible version that's literally standing right next to it already?

what's wrong with a bit of urban warfare instead of trech warfare?

[grizzled kiln]

QA ? Ain't got no time for that 😎

[wooden cloud]

Tested out the stewie top speed on different maps and it map no sense:
SME: 45
Carentan: 33
Remagen: 40
Foy: 38-40

[worthy charm]

SME goes hard

[wooden cloud]

So Im guessing other tanks could be different as well

[grizzled kiln]

45 ??? whaaaat 😮

[worthy charm]

Test it for the luchs please

[novel geyser]

yeah unfortunately they replaced pavlovs house for ""performance"" reasons would have rather they yknow, just improved the optimisation of it rather than replace it

[wooden cloud]

I can tell you right now the Luchs does 45 easy lol

[hoary quartz]

Depended on landscape I believe
Eg. Faster on dirt than snow

[wooden cloud]

Yeah but it makes no sense, you think carentan roads would be fastest lol

[novel geyser]

that house its replaced with is now spammed through the whole map too
I believe that was just a unique building next to pavlovs similar to the real life battle possibly

[hoary quartz]

Yer true

[thin scarab]

Yeah this Makes No sense lol

[worthy charm]

Luchs 55 on SME? Imagine the looks of the greyhound crew when they get chased down.

[sturdy quarry]

fair play that you can all be bothered but why should it be down to any of y'all to test anything

[wooden cloud]

Right now I also reccomend not using a heavy slot on the Panther as its broken

Its too low to the ground and gets stuck on everything or something

Also with the stalling in 4th turns its lost one of its best features

[grizzled kiln]

Guess they swapped the broken Panzer IV model to the Panther 🙁 smh

[wooden cloud]

But for some reason the worst turning I tested was the t70

[worthy charm]

We need back panther with 6 sec reaload to make it better again. :]

[wooden cloud]

The t70 now feels like the old sherman with how bad the turning is

[grizzled kiln]

The Panther had the fastest turn rate of all tanks, but it was in 4th. So now it can't even do that ?? Seriously..

[sturdy quarry]

start a "qa for dlc" programme if they dont wanna pay for qa

[twilit citrus]

yeah that's stupid af

the one cool thing about Stalingrad has been that tad feeling of actual urban house warfare
why take the one good thing away
to just replace it with more trench warfare?

this performance argument makes no sense because:

1. they've added an insane amount of trenches, wrecks, barbwire and other stuff right next to it
2. the "replacement" house is also a very complex object, just slightly simpler than the version we had before (and more boring gameplay wise). even worse IMO is that we now have two identically destroyed buildings right next to each other
3. they added other stuff draining the performance like huges fires and vollumetric fog

[novel geyser]

yeah, on my old PC though the entire soviet side of the map did DRAIN my frames for whatever reason, the high LOD was very poorly optimised to the point of being unplayable. I dont mind the extra trenches and cover since I never felt the map is quite as cqc house to house as it could've been. it had a lot of really open space so a bit extra cover is welcome imo

I would've certainly prefered them to maybe make more generic house assets if they wanted more enterable buildings, but pavlovs and zabs house should have remained as they were
they are unique to the location based off of real landmarks

[twilit citrus]

clearing pavlovs house was always so tense
and some very unique gameplay in all of HLL
the house we got now is barely accessible and we already have another strongpoint with that exact house in the centre: house of the workers

[twilit citrus]

it's the only time you actually got the "clearing a large house floor by floor" feeling

[novel geyser]

yeah

[daring pewter]

I’m really happy with the changes made to the tanks, and I hope you keep improving them to make them even better.

[twilit citrus]

and entering it through a hole in the cellar was cool af

[novel geyser]

yeah definitely, I believe that is taken from the real life event too

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/math-zack-galifianakis-thinking-calculating-gif-5120792

@wooden cloud and I calculating stewie speeds like

[novel geyser]

like c'mon :(

current one vs the real one

I dont have a picture of the old one so here is a random video thumbnail with it

[wind shore]

😭

[twilit citrus]

did they also replace the other one?
the game used two have 2 versions of that house
one that's very heavily destroyed and only a small part is still accessible (see house of the workers), and then the version with all floors the top part and the cellar accessible (see old pavlov house)
which has been 2 out of 6 times on the map
don't tell me all 6 are now the heavily destroyed one

Edit: actuall they added another two, so we've got this heavily destroyed one now featured 8 times on the map, 4 right next to each other looking exactly the same.

[novel geyser]

Im not sure
I dont remember what house of the workers looked like

[twilit citrus]

house of the workers is exactly what pavlovs house is now

[novel geyser]

house of the workers has also been zab'd

yeah
they are using that building asset too much

[analog apex]

Jesus Christ... they still allow super zoomIn with ADS separate FOV slider. What the hell - now I can set it to minimum and I become sniper without a scope. One of the very bad things in HLL got even amplified now.

[analog blade]

Yeah a lot of people complained about this after the pte, rightfully so.

[analog apex]

And the devs kept it in!

[twilit citrus]

also pavlovs house being like that was the only elevated position to fight grudinin's mill from

[novel geyser]

running around stalingrad in exploration do the weapons shake in multipayer too lol

[vale garnet]

What value is the minimum FOV

[novel geyser]

60

[vale garnet]

So literally normal garand ADS FOV

[novel geyser]

ads fov definitely needs to be hard locked for different weapons

[vale garnet]

Just set it to 60 ADS and forget about it

Easy

[analog apex]

worst solution

[vale garnet]

Sam your ADS FOV was already 60 with the garand

You’re angry about an issue that doesn’t exist because they added a floor to the value

[analog apex]

but now its that + the 60

or rather +30 if we are coming from default 90

[vale garnet]

What? If your FOV was 90-120 your ADS FOV with garand was ALWAYS 60

[analog apex]

huge difference

hardly, now it's zoomed in much more when trying out the 60

(ADS only)

[vale garnet]

ADS was always 60

Literally the whole time

[analog apex]

you don't get it at all it seems

I don't care what value it was, now there is a separate slider that allows to adjust the FOV on top of the base FOV

I don't care about the previous value of yours, because I clearly see the image is zoomed in much more

playing with MG right now

[silk igloo]

getting snagged on a plain road and stalling in a tank, gg

[meager timber]

Does it actually lock the fov for all different weapons? As in the fov value stays constant

[analog apex]

try and see

[vale garnet]

The minimum value of ADS FOV you can set is 60 yes?

[sturdy quarry]

i was going to ask, with the new slider what is the equivalent of before we had the setting?

default is 90, i had the main slider on 100

for it to feel the same as before the update, do i set both to 100 so they match

or leave as default at 90

or set to min 60 if that was how it was in the "background" before?

[vale garnet]

In which case is the exact same value as the ADS FOV was for the garand the ENTIRE TIME, so if you like the garand most set it to that, if you like the g43 more set it to whatever that was

[analog apex]

yes

[analog apex]

but that's doesn't seem to be an absolute value, jsut a relative one on top of the base FOV

because with MG, I can zoom in way too much

[meager timber]

Ah, this is what I was worried about

[analog apex]

if it is absolute and visible only with other weapons, still a problem

[vale garnet]

Yes because all the guns had different ADS FOV

[analog apex]

hell, I jsut got G43 and is zoomed in more than it is on default

[past veldt]

yeah it isnt perfect, bc even with both FOV and FOV in ADS set to 90, it zooms in a little when you ads

[worthy charm]

The comp players tearing each other into shreads here I see

[meager timber]

Was expecting an uniform ADS FOV between all weapons

[vale garnet]

Yes because g43 always had a higher FOV than garand did

[analog apex]

isn't that the very point I am trying to raise?

[silk igloo]

maybe it's just the panther being a PoS, or it's a desync/network issue, but even veering a little bit off the road would snag the entire tank away from it, as if the dirt of the slower terrain grabbed the tank with a 5 ton force

[vale garnet]

That’s because of the random float value in the FOV slider, do it in the .ini and then see if it still happens

[past veldt]

I am now trying

[brittle inlet]

loading screen uniform looks like 💩 but let’s not have that be my first impression 20 seconds in

[worthy charm]

Its the new soviet one?

would be understandable

[brittle inlet]

yes

[worthy charm]

Really understandable statement then

[sturdy quarry]

so, if i got too used to the game before, there is no way for the ads fov to be set to the same. because each weapon had its own FOV and now it is universally controlled by the sliders?

[vale garnet]

Just set it to whichever rifles ADS you liked the most and leave it easy

[past veldt]

I am not enjoying the lvl 1 bug being back 🙁

[vale garnet]

Most people prefer garand so just put it 60

[past veldt]

I literally cannot test commander stuff because i am lvl 1

[sturdy quarry]

yeah thats fine, ill pretend that explained why i couldnt use some weapons 😆

[brittle inlet]

this is what i was afraid of, technician being locked to tank crewman and not also added to tank commander 🫩 the solo tank community is over

[meager timber]

If it's a value that adds on top of the old ADS multiplier then you should leave it at default value for the same experience as before. Don't know though. Have to test it

[sick bramble]

Do you feel too that they did nothing "big" to tank to tank battles?

Like you still have to shoot first (anywhere) to win a fight

[cedar ore]

must say, not a fan of the new death screen, just seems a little basic, and the blood looks super cartoonish, the old one had a lot more grit to it

this new one is really clean

[worthy charm]

Solo locked tank squads are the worst frfr.

Especially if they they take a medium or heavy

[brittle inlet]

i take the recons on my own, sometimes a light. it’s (imo) easier sometimes when it’s just you

[worthy charm]

Suuuuuuuuuuure 👀

insert suspicious look frog

[silk igloo]

still waiting for a bugfix for the eternally oblivious infantry

[grizzled kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/getout-gif-16327023334064302194

[neat urchin]

@fluid pawn Any chance the devs can put the redeploy option as the very first option in the start menu? When i try to redeploy in comp i almost leave the server every time lol Would be a welcomed change

[vale garnet]

Skill issue

[pine hull]

I'm not sure about the truck being slower than the Luchs now, like wtf :D

[neat urchin]

tism issue

[gentle lintel]

redeploy tier+1, just leave the server

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

[neat urchin]

The best player cant leave the server

[worthy charm]

Luchs op now ;}

[vale garnet]

Who’s that

[candid terrace]

Are we not getting realistic penetration system?

[worthy charm]

Why would we?

[candid terrace]

Its peak

Iont fw a 76 front penning my panther

[worthy charm]

Adding this would be overkill to be honest, especially for the more casual hll community.

[candid terrace]

Casual?

Never seemed like casual to me

[sturdy quarry]

isnt it how long you (the player who died) was alive for?

[candid terrace]

Hyper realistic inf but tanks are arcady

[vale garnet]

Nothing about inf is realistic

[worthy charm]

Lol 😅

[vale garnet]

This game is hardcore cod not a milsim

[candid terrace]

Feels like it

[worthy charm]

200m you die one shoot, 201 you live with a wound.

[past vortex]

because pacific is required to be a milsim

[candid terrace]

Never had that problem

[cosmic pilot]

Hey

[winter rover]

🤣

What makes the infantry so realistic but the tanks arcady?

[vale garnet]

The whole game is arcadey, I play faster in this than I do in CS 😂😂

[candid terrace]

The fact my tank has a healthbar and a 76 front pens my panther

[hazy fiber]

Why is the hll website so garbo on mobile

[winter rover]

So an aspect of the tank gameplay is arcadey, while other parts of it can be considered more closer to realism

[worthy charm]

Its not really a problem, more like how the game works.

[candid terrace]

Yeah thats fine, i love the game was just hoping wed get realistic tanks cause i mostly only play tanks no hate

[winter rover]

Same applies to infantry, yeah has one shot one kill, but you also have unlimited sprint, no weapon sway, perfect accurate aim, etc

[candid terrace]

Sniper has sway im pretty sure but yeah thats true

[winter rover]

Even a few of the gunsights aren't realistic to make it "easier" to aim lol

Thompson and M1

[candid terrace]

Didnt know that

[winter rover]

So no, not hyper realistic gameplay

Tank and infantry realism are basically on the same level

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/how-many-times-do-we-have-to-teach-you-this-lesson-old-man-hi-there-young-people-spongebob-old-man-old-man-spongebob-gif-5749776374374436142

[cosmic pilot]

All games use health bars

[worthy charm]

The amount of times we are talking about gun sights is crazy

[winter rover]

If you want more realistic tank gameplay, go play Squad 44, Enlisted, or Red Orchestra 2

[hazy fiber]

For realism you go to “squad 44” (100 concurrent players)

[vale garnet]

Realism is boring af anyway, people think they want it but then they get it and it sucks

[candid terrace]

Im nit tryna hate just thought they where gonna at more realistic penetration values

[cosmic pilot]

Also, it should front pen at close range iirc

[winter rover]

That's your opinion, don't say that for everyone

[candid terrace]

True but not from a distance

[meager timber]

Sprinting 600m with full gear, jumping on top of a 5 cm wide cattle fence and popping guys at 200m while leaning left from the hedge. Ultra realistic gameplay

[winter rover]

Then having perfect accurate and steady aim

[vale garnet]

Go play squad 44 and tell me how active it is

[winter rover]

I do play it, S44 and Arma are what I mainly play

[vale garnet]

With all 100 players cool

[winter rover]

Okay, and your point?

[worthy charm]

He knows all of them by name.

[novel geyser]

Im sure there are more reasons for squad 44 not having as strong as a playerbase

squad itself is still very popular and MORE hardcore than s44

[winter rover]

Performance, and most people just don't like very realistic WW2 games

[vale garnet]

I mean normal squad sucks too

[novel geyser]

seems popular tho

[meager timber]

Squad actually tried overhauling the combat system by making it more realistic. They reverted it in like 6 months if I remember correctly

[winter rover]

They didn't revert it, they just toned it down a bit

[novel geyser]

they didnt revert it they just did further tweaks to make it less extreme

[winter rover]

We get it, you like arcady shooters instead

[novel geyser]

HLL does need improvements to its gunplay though
doesnt have to be squad level just something to make it less bland

[thin scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/fake-news-trump-gif-22804577

[hazy fiber]

Yeah they never reverted it

They just made some tweaks

ICO is def better than old squad gameplay

[vale garnet]

On the contrary I play arma too, I just think people wanting HLL to be something it’s not are insane

[meager timber]

Ah right, didn't revert it then. I just remember the community crying about the changes and how the game is ruined

[vale garnet]

They don’t want to play this game

[hazy fiber]

Not most of the community just marksman and mg players

[vale garnet]

Gunplay in squad is actually less realistic with the ICO which is funny

[winter rover]

What people are asking for is not to overhaul this game to make it realistic lol..

[vale garnet]

They deliberately tried to reduce the impact of skill on gunfights

[worthy charm]

Some people always cry about something.

Problem is to differ from good feedback and some guy being mad.

[meager timber]

They need to introduce bhopping and strafe jumping to HLL so I can transfer my afps skills

[ruby girder]

There seems to be a bug regarding controller layout reset.

I play on layout c to lean with rb/lb but it resets everytime i die and i have to go into the controller setting screen for it to reset back to how im used too

[vale garnet]

Bring back old vaulting and the faster sprint

[novel geyser]

vaulting is better now I dont know why people have a problem with it tbh

much smoother than it was

[crisp wedge]

Can they add sliding and dropshotting next update

[vale garnet]

Because it’s dumb to get yeeted over the top of buildings when you’re trying to climb on top of things

[vale garnet]

And you can already dropshot

[thorny acorn]

and akimbo

[vale garnet]

I do it all the time xD

[novel geyser]

I mean do I think vaulting needs more changes but I prefer how it is now than what it used to be
Climbing anything higher than the player should be slower and not a one hand vault for example

[vale garnet]

Animations are semantics

The important thing is access

[novel geyser]

and holding space should climb ontop of things while just tapping should vault over

but most things you can still crouch jump on anyways

[meager timber]

Would be nice if you could climb anything that you can access with jumps and vaulting

No invisible barriers

[vale garnet]

I like the removal of window glitch

Takes away a lot of roofs that are kinda annoying

[past vortex]

guys... they cant even fix the scoreboard

[neat urchin]

how fast

[wind shore]

Update is wonderful Stalingrad and QOL

[remote spindle]

YOOOOOOO this update slaps, GJ guys

does anyone know if they are now pre-loaded shaders into the cache? I have no stutter anymore on first time playing each map after an update

[peak hedge]

Congratulations on the update, boys! Nice menu.

You fixed commaned glitches too, right?

[novel geyser]

can HLL please stop resetting my fullscreen and AA settings :)

[peak hedge]

No

[past vortex]

they have to reset something, its tradition

[pine ember]

Its so weird

Some of my skins have been resetted, some werent

[past vortex]

yea

[remote spindle]

set the gamesettings.ini file to 'read-only' after you change back to your usual settings

[past vortex]

bad advise

[pine ember]

My automatic rifleman that used coats doesnt wear them anymore, my German assault who I gave the short sleeves now wears the lvl6 Schlupfhemd I used before...

[remote spindle]

?

best advice you mean?

[peak hedge]

I found it. They reset the name change back to where your name don't change.

Good job, boys!

[past vortex]

what

[remote spindle]

what

[nova pivot]

What

[neat urchin]

Is it not stuttergrad anymore?

[fringe hollow]

Supposedly

[past vortex]

for clowns

[silk igloo]

the new partially broken large buildings in stalingrad have a hitbox that reaches into the non-existent 5th floor or so...

[analog apex]

it still is

[neat urchin]

damn

[analog apex]

I still can't decide if it is the same bad or even a bit worse.

[fringe hollow]

we hope for those who havent played yet (me)

[vale garnet]

? Read only is totally fine

[past vortex]

until something changes

[neat urchin]

Im sure with the new lighting its messing it up even more

[finite berry]

It's great fun actually, it's just extremely niche.

[finite berry]

Go play Squad (which is even more realistic than Squad 44) and tell me how active it is

[past vortex]

i mean... s44 has a working scoreboard

so theres that

[finite berry]

How is it even worse lol

[past vortex]

just try it out yourself

[finite berry]

nah

[vale garnet]

Then you just untick the box… what?

[analog apex]

harder stutters

[finite berry]

Check, thanks

[analog apex]

I feel like there are more of them that are at least 1s long

and not just a split of a second ones anymore

[finite berry]

Sounds like a certified code moment

[analog apex]

but why the heck did they ruin the Pavlov's house...

[past vortex]

on a full server?

[analog apex]

yep

[broken shoal]

"ruin"

now is more balanced, attakcing pavlovs house was a nightmare before.

[silk igloo]

when people attack any point, i find that there's always too few people shooting at the defenders. of course it wont work if the defenders can just shoot at their leisure.

[analog apex]

yeah... 4 copypasted "Pavlov" buildings in the same area now xD

[nova pivot]

We need the original asset back

[novel geyser]

more lame

[azure heath]

Soo.. the arty ability can destroy garrisons.

No need for precision strikes anymore

[past vortex]

@remote spindle stop that

[past vortex]

whats the cooldown

[wind shore]

?

[past vortex]

is it another of your alts?

:D

[pine ember]

Many people here have Alts

[nova pivot]

Yes

[past vortex]

ik it

[wind shore]

What

[novel geyser]

does Kedo have as many alts as the ammount of times he changes pfp?

[oak current]

why have alts, when you can have Altberg

[nova pivot]

Yes

[finite berry]

Probably more

[past vortex]

its basically mostly kedo

[novel geyser]

dead internet theory but its all just kedo

[cosmic pilot]

Lol
I like kedo, he's harmless

[novel geyser]

except for his occasional misinfo

[nova pivot]

Occasional?

[finite berry]

Plot twist, Kedo is 90% of this server

[cosmic pilot]

It's mikhail

[wind shore]

Пам пам пам пам пам пам пам пам, изи бризи

[novel geyser]

???

[nova pivot]

No thanks 🙏👍

[grizzled kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-gif-23918002

[nova pivot]

The new menu 🔥

[finite berry]

Sprich Deutsch, du Hur-

[thin lotus]

What are these devs doing

[past vortex]

почему

[past vortex]

finding things to do to avoid fixing the scoreboard

[cosmic pilot]

Good

[wind shore]

Pam Pam Pam Pam Pam Pam, Leicht Breeze

[pine ember]

Yes

[cosmic pilot]

I didn't know you were obsessed with stats

[pine ember]

That’s what I wanted to See

[finite berry]

;)

[wind shore]

I like new Cossacks

What do you think guys which Cossack is it

[cosmic pilot]

See, harmless

[past vortex]

its more to know what others are doing, who is who and if stuff worked

[snow pond]

because it was a console performance nightmare.

[cosmic pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/head-massage-monkey-gif-11665794

[vale garnet]

Console skill issue

[snow pond]

*disability ♿

[worthy charm]

45 but im sure is can go faster, based on what speeds the Stuart can do.

[peak hedge]

That handy wifi symbol at the top left is nice too.

[wind shore]

Yes I also don’t understand

What does it means

[past vortex]

there are 3 network icons now, ofc they dont tell us which is which

[turbid plaza]

Congratulations, you imbeciles have broken the game once again. Sweet update, not.

[wind shore]

What

[shy silo]

so how can you apply the tanks skins by chance?

[turbid plaza]

They have broken the tanks and made heavies basically inoperable.

[analog apex]

no, can't be right - they wouldn't downgrade our PC visuals just because of the consoles... right? reminds me one of their promises the devs made 😄

[arctic echo]

bought the tank skin dlc. anyone figure out how to equip it? it doesnt auto equip xD

[silk igloo]

hll players would rather all clump into a single road to get massacred over and over than walk 50 meters to the left to stop the enemy from using another road that leads straight to our defensive point

i am losing my mind

[turbid plaza]

The long term players of this game want the mechanics fixed. Not stupid crap like caving to the people who moan about armor.

[cosmic pilot]

Real

[shy silo]

im still looking for it as well

[fervent dagger]

There’s a new tool in your loadout that applies it

[sturdy quarry]

dont ya have to apply it with wrench or something

[arctic echo]

main menu or in game

[silk igloo]

im so tired boss

[sturdy quarry]

in game

[fervent dagger]

It’s called cosmetic something

[sturdy quarry]

so as a crew you can decide together

[shy silo]

hmm im not seeing it

[wind shore]

Do you change it in MM?

[fervent dagger]

Gotta be on a tank squad in game I think

[arctic echo]

where is the tool im in a game and messing with loadout now.

[sturdy quarry]

https://youtu.be/VjePAvYf63E?si=PfzQtAaq615MkNQ6

[shy silo]

Bruh

[wind shore]

Haven’t tried tanks yet

[shy silo]

so you actually gotta take time to do it and then get in

[arctic echo]

thats so cool haha

[sturdy quarry]

yeh so you decide as a squad

if you apply in menu which person skin does it apply?

[arctic echo]

boo to democrayc it should be a monarchy with tank commander

[past vortex]

i can already see tank squads arguing which skin to apply, ending in pistol fights

[sturdy quarry]

i hate it when a game based on teamwork encourages teamwork

[cosmic pilot]

Real

Tank commander should decide btw

[novel geyser]

does the camo tool apply to every loadout or just that new level 7 one

I forgot to check

[oak current]

tool is available for everyone tanker

person with extra skins goes to tank and uses tool to interact with tank
everyone sees what that person is currently previewing

including the enemy

[sturdy quarry]

can you only apply in hq?

[novel geyser]

weird way of doing it

[oak current]

nah, everywhere @sturdy quarry

[sturdy quarry]

ah. bah.

[oak current]

you do it once and then it stays till the tank is destroyed

[sturdy quarry]

oh so you cant change back to default?

[wind shore]

Camo? Does it shows on destroyed tank?

[analog apex]

just got connection lost to host... great

[oak current]

destroyed tanks have no camo, so...no

a wreck is wreck-coloured

[past vortex]

its the extremly reducing athmosphere in hll
they rust really fast

[echo nova]

Would be so cool if the hll vietnam devs made a ww2 game

[oak current]

lol

[sturdy quarry]

wonder if you can apply the skins over the white winter camo in snow maps

would you change camo from white as you drove thru fields to a different colour as you drive into a town...

[jaunty mulch]

I frickin love the new background in the menu and how it all looks

[sturdy quarry]

yeh the graphics seem higher quality in the menu

[jaunty mulch]

absolutely

[novel geyser]

blasting up all that lighting quality

[wind shore]

🔥

[jaunty mulch]

it is literally fire

[wind shore]

Cool

[oak current]

yes

I tried all of the silly concepts today

[azure heath]

It’s not very accurate, but you’ll get it 2/3 times

[wind shore]

Wait what

Only it’s available from Level 7?

To do this, technican

[oak current]

dunno, I went with the regular standard tanker

since they all get the exterior customizer

[sturdy quarry]

dont particularly mind if a crew decides to be more visible, main issue is it feels too "gamey" changing in front of your eyes mid battle

but then a table / radio / AT gun appearing out of nowhere is fine so... perhaps i am wrong

[oak current]

greeeeeen

[cosmic pilot]

A frogge been a wee beastie with four leggies

[sturdy quarry]

yeh its fair if paid for skins to use em on all maps IMO

[thin lotus]

It’s redundant

[barren blaze]

whats up with connection lost to host

cant play any game without it showing up

[azure heath]

Did you update?

[faint portal]

My ONLY thing is to change it from ALWAYS being a night time background. It should be daytime.

[azure heath]

what is it? Stalingrad?

[faint portal]

Anyone can do it in the squad

[pine ember]

It was daytime for the last months

[barren blaze]

ofc

[faint portal]

The menu is stalingrad at night

[sturdy quarry]

the desert background was so white you couldnt see the white text in the top right boxes (console users with the t17 party invite stuff)?

[faint portal]

Agreed, but the last like five were all night lol
Drives me crazy

[sturdy quarry]

so maybe why dark

[pine ember]

Yes, understandable

[faint portal]

Oh that's a good point

[pine ember]

I just miss the pre U13.5 background

[sturdy quarry]

i dunno im on steam but saw it raised in a bug thingy somewhere

[wind shore]

Technican opens from level 7

[faint portal]

I just think content wise, no one likes night maps dark things. Ppl say they do but night things never do well

[faint portal]

Correct, but I was referring to the tank camo change
Tc can do it too

[sturdy quarry]

give the box a black background and its problem solved but that would then misalign all weapons for 3 months

[pine ember]

It depends, I sometimes see them, and I like Kharkov, Stalingrad and Kursk night especially, they are so immersive and fun

[modest agate]

What happened to the tinkerer class

[faint portal]

I think they look cool, but no one watches those videos lol

[pine ember]

Though I get why people do not like night Hürtgen, I dont like that too

[faint portal]

It was made far better as tank technician!

[pine ember]

For videos yes, they are not ideal

[modest agate]

Was that replaced with technician or we still gonna get away to upgrade the tanks mid combat

[faint portal]

Absolutely awful 😭

[modest agate]

We were suppose to get away to upgrade turret turn speed for less dps and more speed for less armor you think they will still implement this feature

[static tapir]

how to get officer role?

[hasty ore]

oh snapple facts, it's RazBora. What are you doing here not in a Tank?

[faint portal]

#mess-hall message

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-crying-meme-gif-11438809252701250083

[modest agate]

Did I miss it in the changelogs is this possible with this class

[hasty ore]

ugh. Society making us all wear pants and earn "money" to pay our "mortgages". shame.

[modest agate]

I thought it was buildable structures like ammo depot and repair station

[faint portal]

I cri evr tyme 😭
I'll be tonking later today for sure

[wind shore]

Casual players maybe don’t like

[marsh compass]

Do certain calibers go through different objects? I swear that sometimes people can shoot through wooden fences and trees at times.

[faint portal]

Imo I agree
I don't think anything that gives you an "edge" in tanking (ie repairs/more ammo etc) should be locked behind unlocks

[wind shore]

I like some maps which is night not all

[hasty ore]

so do only the tankers get the ability to build the ammo station? would be awesome if the engi could build it too. they my fav class haha

[faint portal]

Yes, light wood etc go through

[wind shore]

Night maps I like it and dynamic weather

[faint portal]

Yesir only tank technician can build that ammo depot

[hasty ore]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bike-gif-9672975825298871464

[marsh compass]

Is that all weapons? Just wondering to avoid wood in the future lol

[faint portal]

Hahaha I posted a vid with all the changes for everyone to understand easily 😊
https://youtu.be/Nj_uGtKt0g8?si=FPkKyr2jbKzbleoz

[hasty ore]

man was ready for the QQ's

[wind shore]

Yes I think it’s cool new camouflage

[faint portal]

All weapons that are considered high caliber yee 😁
So like your mgs/rifles I believe go through thin objects

[pine ember]

For having a fun time they are good

Cant wait how the new Stalingrad night will play

[faint portal]

Idk I'm just not a night guy
I despise them 😭 lolol I don't enjoy them even once in a while

[nova pivot]

Stalingrad is more laggier than it was before

[fringe hollow]

Raz, I found a small visual bug with the Armor Hub. Could I DM you to explain in detail?

[pine ember]

I am, I am as dark as the night

[pine ember]

What?

[naive ferry]

congrats the devs played themselves

[haughty geode]

So update is there yet?

[nova pivot]

As i said

[sturdy quarry]

it was worth removing pavlova house then

[nova pivot]

I have never experienced problems with the map until today lol

[haughty geode]

Thanks

[nova pivot]

Don't remind me Pavlov's house 😭

[pine ember]

Yep, and we got a new death screen you can see who killed you

[naive ferry]

arty strike is op and combine that with the tanks pubs are unplayable

[faint portal]

Ooo ty yeah send it over

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-caped-crusader-caped-crusader-batman-batman-pose-gif-12537728247115118999

[granite sphinx]

THX

[haughty geode]

Oh what? Cooooolllll

[faint portal]

I never seen @pine ember and batman in the same place

[pine ember]

Pssst, you dont know anything

Im the Fledermausmann

[west berry]

how do i turn off the network icon

??

please give us a option to remove that icon,i dont need to see that sh!t

[vale garnet]

You can’t turn it off

[winter rover]

still no select fire or sight range adjustment

[nova pivot]

🤣 🫵

[crude hamlet]

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

[sturdy quarry]

to add to my list of HLL conspiracies

(1. was mortain was a test to make bushes / foliage maps for HLL:V)

2. tank have increased speed so they can up the run speed again so we can finally take german OP

[modest tartan]

Maybe just add more tanks and have them behave like they did irl armor and cannon wise

[wind shore]

[west berry]

any official word on that network icon from a dev? its annoying clutter on the screen

[analog apex]

I keep repeatedly getting "Connection lost to host" at least 1x per match so far

wtf

[frail hornet]

hello

[cedar ore]

where did the ricochet sound for tanks go? :(

[frail hornet]

can i make a game suggestion?

[thin lotus]

Mortain is the only map in hll that has that ugly TAA dependent grass, and seeing as ue5 is also very anti aliasing dependent to mask much of its effects, your suspicion might not be so far off.

[faint portal]

The day running speed increases again is the day we riot in the streets

[frail hornet]

is this the right channel? for questions?

[faint portal]

Shoot

[frail hornet]

sorry i am new here what's that mean

[wind shore]

Yes

[frail hornet]

is there gonna be a Korean war prequel to Hell let loose?

you know were you fight both Chinese and Koreans during korean war.

[cosmic pilot]

The run speed increase was good

No reason not to have it anymore

We need it

[fringe hollow]

I better see a 3rd crusade themed HLL branded game or I'll be upset!

[frail hornet]

might be cool if the next antagonist will be the PLA forces after the Vietcong.

[past vortex]

#base-camp

[frail hornet]

Yeah prequel to Vietnam

[frail hornet]

hukbalahap?

[oak current]

yeah the vietnam discussion is over at #base-camp

[frail hornet]

it would be cool if the next antagonist was the PLA forces, because Korean war was even barely touch.

[oak current]

I wish we could make the channels a bit more understandable in appearance 😄

[frail hornet]

yeah 😂,

[analog apex]

I have been playing just a few hours... had 3x connection lost to host and 1x fatal error already... what an update.
EDIT: 5x now, not 4

[faint portal]

I think the run speed honestly was ok, however implementing it without adjusting other functionality (ie vehicle speeds) proportionally is game breaking
That is just a fact. Anything else other than that is just a nonsense take and I'll die on that hill

[cosmic pilot]

Vehicles shouldn't have been so slow to start with.
And the reason the infantry speed increase was good is two fold.

1. Increased survivability
2. Enabling the main mechanism by which progress is made which is to outflank the enemy

And largely, infantry keeping pace with tanks is a problem because of satchels,

[errant crown]

Can the Allie’s spawn 2 76s or does it have to be a 76 and a jumbo 75?

[cosmic pilot]

Can spawn two of the same

[fringe hollow]

Two of any heavy combination iirc

[faint portal]

I agree with that
Vehicles are/were too slow

I disagree that it let's you flank faster though as the i increase was negligible
You ran like 1-2km/h faster than a medium tank or heavy tank

[cosmic pilot]

The increase was way more than 1-2kmh

[fringe hollow]

reread that.

[cosmic pilot]

Thks bro

[sturdy quarry]

i apologise for getting the chat to talk about run speed again due to a poor attempt to be funny

[cosmic pilot]

But no, the speed increas mattered substantially

In outflanking the enemy in micro tactical situations

A 100m flank was basically trivial

[faint portal]

I disagree that it made you flank better
But I agree with any change so long as everything else is moved proportionally
Bottom line is infantry cannot move faster than armor or vehicles. That just breaks the game

[cosmic pilot]

What do you have to support your disagreement

And now that tanks are faster infantry can be faster too

[azure heath]

Panthers, however, are unusable in their current state.

[cyan ingot]

just wandering by, long time lurker here. I decided to play HLL today after a few months off, did the update and off I went. In less than 20 minutes, one sudden disconnect and a fatal error crashing the game completely. I wonder if this game's development is at a stage where an update is released without proper testing, and if game crashes of this nature should still be tolerated in such a seasoned game.

[fringe hollow]

A disagreement is just an opinion?

[little otter]

Command arty strike is insanely overpowered

[cosmic pilot]

Yes, as of yet I substantiated.
While I've proved substance to my opinion

[faint portal]

I mean games where played exactly the same and the meta was not changed in anyway aside from tanks being able to be satcheled rocketed faster

[cosmic pilot]

The same but faster is better

[azure heath]

I like the commander arty though. Say goodbye to garrisons

[cosmic pilot]

Because it avoids stalemates

[nova pivot]

Poor garrisons 😢

[azure heath]

I hope the SPAs can take them out too

[faint portal]

I would say that most people that play hll don't want faster gameplay
Not faster, that's why they play hll

[cosmic pilot]

More movement, more opportunities for momentum shift

[fringe hollow]

Being faster seemed to make people suddenly think flanking is viable because it takes less time.

[cosmic pilot]

They do want it, they just think they don't

[faint portal]

One of the key things that makes hll hll and not battlefield

[little otter]

100 munitions and 5 minute cooldown and ability to take out garrisons is way too much. The ability shouldn't exist in my opinion.

[fringe hollow]

Flanking was always and is always great, just less common

[cosmic pilot]

The slow infantry is the worst part

[faint portal]

Source: trust me bro

[nova pivot]

Five minutes cold down?!!

[jolly seal]

No one asked for any of this crap either. Just the idiotic YouTubers. The guys in console clans playing it day in and day out just wanted minor bug fixes performed. That simple, they’re the ones keeping the game alive. With the update will have some new players that wont last and leave soon as bf6 drops. This does nothing to bring player base to the game. If anything those that have been playing will finally hang it up.

[faint portal]

Hot take lol

[little otter]

Yes

[cosmic pilot]

Yes, the players don't know what they want

[fringe hollow]

Slow infantry in a tactical shooter? How dare they!

[little otter]

They should remove it like they did with Final Stand and how strong it was 😄

[cosmic pilot]

No, I am smarter than most players

[fringe hollow]

While no hate on BF players, I would like to see them gone so we have less running and gunning by the community and more planning players back

[faint portal]

I just think based on what I see here, as well as most of the thousands of comments across all my videos people enjoy the slower movement in hll and that's why they play it
I think the big indication of this is that the devs moved it back ASAP

[sturdy quarry]

yep plenty of other games to play if ya wanna move like you snorted a bag

[cosmic pilot]

Think critically for a moment.
The speed of the infantry has to be proportional to the speed of respawning.
If respawning remains unchanged, slower gameplay will result in more stalemates.

Hence, the players don't know/realize what they want

[fringe hollow]

Stalemates are hard fought battles. Always 5-0ing is boring as hell.

[errant crown]

I don’t mind slow aslong as it’s not frequent stalemates. The game is more fun when points are changing hands frequently.

[azure heath]

Stalemates are fun

Rolling is not

[cosmic pilot]

Can be fun in the right context

And in the proportional amount

[jolly seal]

I could care less about bf 😂 not my cup of tea. Too fast paced.

[fringe hollow]

I think I misunderstood, stalemates on a single point sucks.

[azure heath]

I would rather play a stalemate than a 20 minute sweep

If it's 45 minutes at a minimum it's fine I suppose

[cyan ingot]

I see what you mean. To be honest I think the last time I stopped playing I did so because of these game breaking bugs, now I want to come back to the game, new bugs breaking the game. I think the manner in which these updates are being pushed just show how their testing is unreliable. Having the game disconnect in two separate ways after just a few minutes playing is unacceptable. There are no excuses for a game with this maturity to have such a weak development.

[errant crown]

Sure but neither is particularly pleasant if that’s all you are getting.

[cosmic pilot]

Ironically, a 20min sweep is the theoretical ideal for winning.
But I concede it being the only win condition would not be fun.

[fringe hollow]

I like this game BECAUSE it just feels like a slower arcade shooter sometimes.

[azure heath]

I have the capability as a commander to sweep almost every game but I choose not to, for the enjoyment of myself, my team, and the opposing team.

[jolly seal]

That’s the other issue. The guys that play all the time have been happy and fine the way the game has been. Just minor bug fixes performed. Every single update has always been nothing but issues, new glitches and sometimes down right unplayable. Just for it to take forever to be corrected and sometimes never back to normal. So in reality. Just leave it alone the way it was. Literally none of the player based asked for this stuff on console majority wise.

[cosmic pilot]

Once you realize precapping is the worst mechanic in the game, sure.

[azure heath]

I really think the dev team should straight up allow us to join their playtests. Make all the names anonymous and we're fine.

[cyan ingot]

I wonder if HLL is going to be a perpetually broken game. I wonder if they will bring this methodology to the Vietnam game. Vietnam was a a success defining game for BF, I think it might just be a defining moment for HLL's demise.

[cosmic pilot]

Just me and you

[azure heath]

Maybe a group of like 500 players to sign an NDA

for this game and Vietnam

[stoic star]

Does the game keep crashing for anybody else after the update?

[cyan ingot]

yes

[stoic star]

Do you know whats going on there?

[sturdy quarry]

HLL we have the excuse of T17 taking over BM

imo they should know how the game is built by now but lets assume it was super spaghetti mess

if HLLV which (had the opportunity to) be built from ground up by T17 is this bad i dunno what to say

[little otter]

I just tested Command Arty strike in an empty server. 100 munitions, 16 shells, lasts for 1 minute and 10 seconds, 5 minute cooldown, and takes out garries. Who approved this?!

[cyan ingot]

precisely what we are discussing, what is going on here is that after all this time, even after the transition to T17 the game should be more stable than it is

[wind shore]

I don’t have high hopes

[azure heath]

Me

We actually need playtests, closed or not.

Weekly.

[sturdy bridge]

are they all youtubers?

[cyan ingot]

the excuse of the T17 taking over is no longer valid, we need to demand more of them

[azure heath]

I would hope not.

[cyan ingot]

it's been plenty time

[azure heath]

We need real competition.

[cosmic pilot]

Taking out garries is good

[sturdy quarry]

like for this patch not a single dev drove the panther once....

[azure heath]

Who here wants to bring Squad 44 back?

Not me.. but some1 else please?

[faint portal]

agreed

[little otter]

@cosmic pilot It is extremely overpowered. And you get 3 of them. So these can be spammed every 4 minutes x 3

[faint portal]

youtubers b ruining the game agreed

@split ridge ^^

[cosmic pilot]

The dev brief made it sound like it was a limit to 3 total for the duration of the match

[stoic star]

bro wtf the game was fine for me before why it starts crashing out of nowhere give me my money back or fix it

[little otter]

I can only assume its implementation is bugged.

[azure heath]

Can we slide into these playtests with y'all. I will give them my SS# if they want it for security's sake.

[faint portal]

what playtests LOL

[silk igloo]

i have that issue a few times every year, 4-8 crashes and then it just works until it gets moody again

[cosmic pilot]

Now, listen carefully. In principle, indirect fire destroying garrisons is a necessary tool to have in the game.
Tweak the other values like power and cost, but we need that capability.

[azure heath]

@fluid pawn Can you hire me? All I ask of is a 25% off Walgreens coupon.

[cosmic pilot]

I'll work for 15% off hll dlc

[faint portal]

in alll seriousness i had no idea about any of these changes until like 24 hrs before @azure heath

[wind shore]

I’ll work for a game that tests their updates before release

[azure heath]

Gotcha. I know you got a bit more of a say than I.. can we try to get more tests? I want to see this game succeed.

[sturdy bridge]

only half as much as the devs

[past vortex]

they bothered to touch the popup windows but ofc ENTER and ESC still dont work, its ridiculous

[silk igloo]

should be done with direct fire guns imo. frontline meets another, and the worse team is pushed by combined arms. like a SPA shooting mini satchels that destroy spawns through walls.

[faint portal]

you THINK this, but I assure you I get as much say as anyone on everything lol. Only difference is i sometimes get patch notes within 24 hrs to makea video on it

[crystal ridge]

what do you all think about the update

[azure heath]

Okay. Let's start the picket line!

"Help Let Loose, we want the game to stay!"

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-imagination-rainbow-gif-6957879033178108845

[crystal ridge]

fr i had nothing but a big fat smile on my face while reading the change logs

[sturdy quarry]

the main meat of the update was tank rework. they didnt test the tanks

[cosmic pilot]

The point is some garrisons can only be reached by indirect fires

You need a tool to get those

[faint portal]

I just want the game to succeed b/c I like playing it lol

So i'll give them my opinion, what i see the community says in discord/comments on social media posts etc and then i just see patch notes and make vids on them haha

[crystal ridge]

i think they are fine the buffs were needed they are great

[silk igloo]

maybe have a disabled state for blue garris. if it takes a hit from indirect fire, needs 25 supplies for anyone to bring it back up.

[crystal ridge]

• i am very happy to see my favorite ww2 game get an update i absolutely adore the performance update as well

[azure heath]

We need a group post. Showing both support and concern of the game's direction. I don't care if the updates slow down.. as long as we get better updates.

[sturdy quarry]

yes the patch notes / intention seems fine

but they didnt test the thing they changed...

again.