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What the
Please @DLCmakers make the DLC more accurate in the Future
There’s new camos?
For Tanks…
Where were they shown?
And the german one isn’t Even accurate
Apparently they are on steam as upcoming content
Soviet hat isn’t accurate seems like, it’s White Army Kubanka, which is truly inaccurate for Red Army
Sadly no
BUT NOT CUSTOMIZA
At all DLC is great, I like both, but what it missing: Balkenkreuz for tank and golden ribbons on hat instead of white
I don’t want play squad 44, it’s too modern for WW2
No one cares
I’m leaving this game in favor of Hunger.
S44 Eastern Front mod will Release new Maps in the Future
The gunplay is looks off in S44
It isn’t
And soldiers hold guns like in modern warfare
It is how it should be in HLL
Atleast there are no inaccurate skins no one needs
Animations are too weird in S44 and this game is about modern warfare
S44 is a WW2 Game
I have so many lags in game, I use low graphics option but still very very laggy.. someone know what can I do? Alot of crushes too and takes forever to load into a game or into a server
Skins I think it’s accurate, why it’s not accurate in HLL
Just be quiet if you dont know anything
I explained it 100000 times to you
Be nice.
You're a bit of a jerk with how you say stuff. Knock it off.
Hunger is by Good Fun Corps, previously Black Matter. They were the ones who made Hell Let Loose initially, and they never messed up this bad. I’ll gladly stick with a dev team that I can trust a little bit more.
I am nice. I just dont think he should start talking about topics when he hasn’t the slightest idea of them
You're not exactly an 'expert' in the field, so knock off the attitude.
Someone can help me out pliz?
#1271718922734796865 may be best the place to get help. Provide information on your PC build.
Ah yes the coolest extraction-pvp-pve-looter-shooter-melee-crating-open world-single-multi-player-napoelonic-game of all time
I’m Not an expert either, yea, but I don’t spread false info or make statements on topics which I dont know
Fair enough, but judging by the footage it actually looks quite good.
Thank you
I got the complete opposite
It looked awful
Dude all I’ve seen is the reveal trailer
I can’t find anything on it because looking up “hunger game” gets you a lot of different results
Hunger Good Fun Corp
How my noticed about hat and gunplay isn’t truth?
As someone who was around during black matter times, they made this game enjoyable.
Share in #off-topic-mess-hall
Go talk about the game there please.
So we don’t support our developers here?
You say it’s in accurate uniforms, but they existed in WW2
Because the games just really not that good
"General Chat for HLL". Thanks. 
It’s been going downhill for a long time and HLL’s developers are just to slow to do anything
About camouflage you maybe right on tank, maybe not, we don’t know and haven’t seen this reference
But werent used on the battlefield... With that argument you also could add civilian pink coats
Elaborate. I mean if it’s too slow for you that’s one thing. But I don’t think the game looks bad.
We barely get updates, the updates we get are honestly mediocre and long time gameplay issues haven’t been fixed
It didnt exist in this form and is inaccurate. End of discussion
T17 is not black matter
It’s accurate. Which uniforms weren’t used on the battlefield?
Are you talking about HLL or Hunger right now
Cossacks? They fought in small and huge counts from different sides
HLL
Not on the maps we have... and dont make sense in the team size of 50 players
I moved Hunger discussion to off-topic.
Okay copy
ROA - they fought, Battle of Saint Lo, South or west to Carentan, fought on other places.
Graphics does not the game make. Any game can look triple A with the newest engines but it has to have good gameplay to back it up
It make sense cause it’s DLC, and maximum a few people wear it in the same moment
No, they didnt. Not with the uniform we have in the game
HLL?
HLL’s is so borderline basic and unfinished it’s becomes the games detriment. Besides learning garrison spots there’s not a lot to learn
But it’s also so clunky that it’s stuck being so simple because anything more would make the game more unfun then it is
With this uniform, also PHL. In PHL in real there is DDAY museum there their uniform is exist also
Yes. Hell Let Loose needs to do something to make the game’s dynamic more replayable. Right now it’s clinging to the addiction of those who get stuck with it.
And that’s not healthy.
check out off topic video if you ever have the time
I don’t have that chat
Just DM me it
Channels and roles; community; off-topic
No
gotcha
Still doesnt make sense in the game
I refuse to touch that cesspit
You contradicts yourself
No, I dont
Why should I change it?
Just because it is there doesnt mean it should be in the game...
Cause I gave you evidence and Denied your point of view
I also visited these museums
I dont get your process of thoughts
It’s just your own opinion
What’s the philosophy
Game improves, adding new maps, new theatres, new units, new vehicles
And if we have so plenty and a lot of DDAY maps, and you say it’s the main and basic front, so then let it be basic units which fought in those maps and DDAY
No... Providing a "realistic" WW2 experience... And just adding any uniform no matter what stands against that
Yes. Normal Heer vs US army, as it was the case irl
Yes it’s just game
It’s not. It was Georgians, in SME and Utah
So what? Its supposed to be realistic
It’s realistic
Only in minority
@pine ember @wind shore Please mute each other and move on. This is like 2 days old now.
It isnt, not with the equipment and factions we have
Or take your arguement to DM
No, for sure not. He just doesnt want to understand basic ideas the game once had
Definetely not
Just chill out guys 👍
Im just tired of always repeating myself just because some people have only one topic in mind...
Then just be the bigger person and dont answer brother
TL;DR your argument.
People play this game for all sorts of reasons, and accuracy may not be the most important thing to them. There is no point in making an argument about it, although I appreciate the your passion for it.
This feels like 1984.
Yea sorry, but there are people that started playing the game because it was promised to be a relatively authentic experience
The accuracy was promised...
That’s what the Kickstarter campaign was all about, wasn’t it?
It’s accurate, his opinion just based that units should play major role and impact - to deserve being added in the game
The devs were always like "Oh this game needs to be realistic", but yet they are listening to people that demand things which just add inaccuracies. They do not even help the game
And yet here we are on spreading false info again
And only adds uniform if it were above 1.000.000+ soldiers from this unit directly
You spreading it
Nope
Those developers are no longer behind this game. However, those developers did start the trend of inaccuracy.
If you want skins over everything else then play BFV
Nope
No, they just said that they “didn’t knew on which side soviets fought”
Damn shame i. Enjoyed bfv
What does that even mean? 😭
Still they say they want to develop a "realistic" game. Some inaccuracies are there, but they are made for the gameplay. Its also inaccurate that Stalingrad battle lasted 1,5 hours. But skins dont add anything except inaccuracies. There are many accurate skins that are still missing which they could easily add
It’s very ridiculous, but it means they don’t know which side soviets fought and didn’t knew there them to add and who they fighting against on maps
They don’t know if add soviets, against who they should fighting
I agree.
Indeed.
You see? Thats why I am against certain skins in the game. They add nothing but are making the accuracy of the game worse
Thats also false but ok. The eastern front was somewhat planned for BFV
It lasted 1.5 hours or 2 and… that’s all? Means it’s not whole battle ended, it means in this part of Stalingrad it ended on that day… and would be counter attacks, offensive etc again
It wasnt added because BFV already went downhill and covid hit
I’ve heard it from one YTer
Anyways
BFV is old and I don’t like to play BF
So why say false things?
Fair, but then please accept that I also want to play games
I’m talking about myself only
What I’ve heard I say
I really don’t think Hell Let Loose can dig itself out of its whole at this point. All they can do is move there operations to another game.. oh wait they are.. oh wait they’re already f#%?ing it up.
"Eastern front wasnt added because the devs didnt know on which side they were or which maps/weapons etc."
Yep, HLL WW2 is just a cash cow. Thats why we get DLC no one asked for
Lmao
I was shocked to hear the game only has 30 devs
I kind of lost hope in this franchise.
Me as well
That’s why I’m going to move to greener pastures.. that apparently can only be discussed in the #off-topic-mess-hall.
Yes, its surprising. The really sad thing is that they dont even make the DLC by themselves
You saying false rn. He said this in real.
"The only problem with the USSR is that they switched sides at least once, but we'll probably figure out how to add them. The real question is when, and I can't tell you that." - David Sirland
Producer of BF5
I doubt no one in the EA headquarters knows history
Well, hes right...
DLCs are mostly made by contractors.
Remember the Molotov Ribbentrop pact
He just ignored that fact that 1941-1945 they fought against Germans and had plenty maps to add from, starting from Barbarossa map, just silencing it is not right..
Yes nothing bad with it
There are bad things with it
Same as Czech was split before by others
Poland split Czechoslovakia before with Germany
It wasnt "silencing"
USSR was just the last one who made deal with Germany
And again what’s wrong with that pact? Molotov Ribbentrop
It was diplomatic decisions and it was permission
Yep, and that deal led to millions of dead innocent people and a divided Europe for 50 years. Nice...
Nothing bad running diplomacy
Learn history
Some might say it’s still divided.
Sadly yes
Not by an iron curtain, but an explosive wall.
Not by an iron curtain, but still divided
jinx
It was Ribbentrop - which was German diplomat and Molotov - which was also Soviet diplomat, both of them just made diplomacy
"just made diplomacy". Did you forget what that meant for Poland, Finland, Baltics,...
Millions of innocent people
How Poland before attacked Czechoslovakia together with Germany is it ok?
And split them
Don’t act like you regret about them, you don’t care
Did the Poles kill innocent Czechs?
I actually care
Its sad you dont
I don’t know, I’m not such interested how it was. But it doesn’t make if 1 side did it, doesn’t justify that the other side could attack other country
Like Czech was split by Poland / Germany before Molotov Ribbentrop pact
Have I ever Said it would be ok if the poles killed innocents?
Only a small Part went to Poland, can’t be compared
No they didn’t, but still you just accepting only 1 side
How?
It still. Can be. It was not their part
@fluid pawn I have a question do you know about any new tank?
Please don't ping staff 😅 You'll find out about any information from the updates or in #telegrams . To my knowledge, no new tanks yet.
Ok thank you
We are here only because of Ben at this point
i've played for 17 hours, focusing entirely on automatic rifle, the automatic rifle class is at level 3, am I doing something wrong
No.
So why am I not leveling up?
You are
You're just doing it slowly
Welcome to hell let loose
Build nodes with engineet at the start of the round and then change to whatever class you want to level.
The building XP that the nodes generate over time will then go to the class you play whilst the nodes are up.
Better question would be its automatic rifleman youre leveling 😅
It takes 50 hours of hard grinding to reach level 10. I’d recommend just joining an XP farm server do you want to level up
Use Bob the builder! It only costs $25k to level up all your classes to veteran.. that’s level 5, otherwise known as halfway
Smolensk on da brain
Kept you waiting, huh?
Your brain on Smolensk
Omg, are you the solid alt account I have been waiting for ages?
When Russian faction rebalance
And Eastern Front German sub faction
German subfaction and Russian rebalance when
Gods I need to do my rebalance and submit it sometime
Subfactions mentioned
whats the best class to play anyways?
Assault
It’s level 9 is the best loadout in the entire game
"its level 9"
whats that, like 50 hours
sorry that was rude, but I geiniunly dont know how it would be possible to get that
That or Bob the builder. Again they sometimes want you to pay after what I heard... and you need to be lvl. 50 otherwise they dont even let you on there.
But yeah assault lvl. 9 with a smg or the STG and a satchel is pretty much the best you can get.
That doenst even include the smokes the loadout has...
Yeah lol it’s so unbalanced
Yep
Build nodes
Atleast compared to the other classes, like atleast recon class you don’t get a side arm with you’re fg-42
they help you. A LOT
That loadouts probably why leveling up is so long
And even then… that’s nothing compared to it haha
Full auto fg42 for spotter when?
I need something thats not a flare.
Might as wel give it to rifleman as well
To medic ;}
Tbh it would be historically accurate, most of the time recon is what paratrooper regiments were used for 😂
But also… like just no
G43 please, idk why spotter gets the kar
you can level much faster if yk how
buid nodes every match
go for garries, ops and tanks, maybe even nodes
to make up for the flare, US spotter also gets the bad gun
The scoped svt only gets a shovel 💀
its ok, just hipfire
if you have a bolt-action sniper
Amazing against deserters
When are they gonna be able to make the sights adjustable
Never at this rate
Accurate Soviet moment
All you need to take care of facist is shovel comrade
Where can I see what the DLC includes that will come with the new update?
Your steam library -> Hell Let Loose -> DLCs -> soon to be released -> then read through.
Its only 1 Uniform and 2 tank Skins.
That they will sell tank Skins now is sonewhat new.
And stupid
Idk who thought of that but they should be fired
And if they don’t give free skins I’m going to be livid

As if you arent already livid
He's got you here @covert elbow can't lie
🤨
Update tomorrow, patch notes later today, Ben B unwell, what a week
Hey, is there any word on an update that fixes the Xbox achievements? All of the level achievements have been bugged since I believe the Tobruk update
You got a cold as well? I got it last weak in my math class. 🥲
I'm too sure I'm afraid. I can check with the team however either way won't be too long to find out with the update tomorrow 🙂
It kicked in Friday whilst doing all the changelog stuff and has not gone yet. It's really not the one
Thank you very much!
What will be the next map for the game? Havent played in a while
I like this suggestion #1415422647092908083 message Hopefully a Cherkassy map will be added in the future
Smolensks
-# kedo dont even dare to ping me
What? For 1941?
1943 summer
Huh
The battle in 1943 was rather short and not that big, but ok, they chose it for a reason
Sadly no new winter map
Probably because all weapons and tanks are for late war.
Who cares though 😅
Yea, makes sense, but I would say we have a late war Wehrmacht against a mid war Red Army
Would have been the perfect opportunity for a 1942/43 German subfaction
Subfactions mentioned
Something like the DAK is needed for the eastern front too
For late 1943 the current loadouts would be ok, but not for Kharkov and Stalingrad especially
They are up to date still getting the issue
@fluid pawn Hope you're feeling better bud.
One question, I've noticed the tank skins DLC. Does this mean we're going to be getting a lot more historical tank camos to choose from in the future? ;P
If so, I'm doing a thread of nothing but tank camo suggestions.
When I bought the game I decided to go for something like machine Gunner or even rifleman, just playing casually and no responsibility,now I'm almost level 6 officer in 3 days because of those 5 player units with no officer
All I know is that I would certainly be interested in seeing this!

Officer is the play for sure. Running around about putting outposts down is such a vibe
Once you go Nitro, you can't go back
Real 🥲
I pay for nitro even tho I shouldnt anymore.
Bring back fast sprint speed
Gib emoji perms :(
got my first 200 kill game last night!
I'll be sure to ping you about it when I make it :)
Listen to this man
Hyrum said something positiv about him, so I gotta add him to the naughty list.
People who didn’t like it were just mad they got exposed as bad players
Speak truth to power ✊
People who did like it love bad server performance and tanks.
This doesn't even make any sense
Shoo
No why
Thank you!
Good morning chat
I’m sooooo pumped!
My entire life has been leading to this moment!
tbh i’m just really scared
Hope you're feeling better btw mate
Ngl, I am legitimately worried about the Klan infesting the servers when Hell Let Loose Vietnam releases. Best of luck to you, brave moderators
? Huh?
Jinx hahahaha
XD
the KKK?
?????????????????????
WHY DID I SAY RISING STORM 2
That's what I was thinking?
Idk understand what that has to do with a Vietnam video game lol
My brain was cooked because I just woke up.
The Rising Storm 2 community is… special to say the least. I have fully seen teams get named after the hard r several times, and after a while I just straight up muted chat. Just worried about that happening to HLLV, is all
You won’t have to worry about it on the Soulsniper’s SOF server!
Nor Draft.
Both very strict servers. Glow’s as well.
o7 I love our current community! I’m just worried about that kind of RS2 guy jumping in
Genuinely, thanks to those mods, and the mods of this discord
I mean both
I can’t say the same for official servers.
Update today or what?
Those are going to be full of society’s worst.
Tomorrow. And I won’t be playing it.
What will be in it? Smolensk at the funni new tenk mechanik?
Wait, Soul has an Onl yFans?
Based
And Tank speed and audio changes.
And the first part of the tank rework
That is?
That, I believe he actually does.
Didnt got s chance to read the patchnotes yet
They out already?
Nope. It’s tomorrow.
First pack could be free?!
Im not too certain how RO2 server hosting works, but hll pre selects their "authorized" server providers
So if someone names a community server that's something racist etc hll can have full authority to shut it down from what I understand.
Patch notes today, update tomorrow per Bens comment above
what raz said ben said
what ben said raz said ben said
what jairion said ben said raz said ben said
No lol
Yup
Update 18 drops tomorrow
will be sharing the changelog today 🙂
Leak Smolensk tac map
No Smolensk today no. Will share more details later this month post-U18
Corporate Ben is taking over.
Will be live on the HLL Website around <t:1759762800:t> <t:1759762800:R>
I'm ready to blow my 3GB mobile data at the beginning of the pay period
I also made the video that will go out alongside it so hope you guys like it 🙂
You just gave me a reason to judge it more
Hold back a bit, this is to much to be healthy
45min
Epic divagree moment
30
19
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https://youtu.be/dDuKXlnre0o?si=UFbBcgcagf7HDH6A
wait wrong game
The song has a strong anti-war message, focusing on America's involvement in the Vietnam War and the effect it had on the soldiers who served. The track was notable for early use of sampled and processed speech, in particular a synthesized stutter effect used on the words 'nineteen' and 'destruction'. It also includes various non-speech, re-dubb...
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Are you ready to ping ben when it comes out 1 minute to late?
Im not
I'm
7
Im looking forward to it, but just saying im still sceptical
hot dog 7?
fixed floating fencepost
game is saved
6
Changed dirty diaper
I was looking for an opening to post that and you gave it to me
3
2
Damn I'm really disappointed by that gif
New off-road physics be like
What a tease ong
The Jumbo 75 is now something worth considering !!! Finally !!!
I’m curious about how the balancing is going to work now that it’s confirmed that the heavy tank limit is 2 per team. The Germans have a clear advantage over the other factions with 2 big gun heavies.
website keeps crashing me
looking good
that commander artillery though should probably not result in all shells landing at once
rip
Bless ben, that he clarifies it once more!!!
Each team may field a maximum of two heavy tanks at any given time.
Ok I suppose I can talk about armor changes now that it's out
I'll be coming out with a detailed video on this but
Here's what you want to know
At VS inf:
All rockets take one more hit to kill vehicles (heavy 4, med 3 etc)
All medium tanks can take 2 heavy tank rounds now
Your turret speed has nearly doubled on MOST tanks
Speed has increased on every vehicle
75 jumbo has decreased dmg and a decrease in fuel cost (still awful choice)
Limit to two heavies with 10 min cool down
New role called technician can build ammo depot and repair stations independently
All tanks have been reworked physically to go over things and collide with objects more consistently
Sound overhaul on everything armor (POSSIBLE FURY WHISTLE)
Knock back effect on tanks shooting
More in there but that's what you need to know off rip ill post my vid later today and my website will be updated with all this data
Master tank warfare in Hell Let Loose with comprehensive guides, ranging tools, and tactical knowledge.
Noooo! What's happening? I'll get the web team to look into it
Best part of the changelog imo @faint portal 🫡
Holy cow, the update looks great!
I cant wait to play the new Stalingrad map, it was always my favourite alongside Kharkov
you killed pavlovs house 😭
A HELL (let loose) of work has gone into it - as can be seen by the bug fixes section alone 😅
So the 2 heavy limit.
Is it like I can get two 76s or two Tigers?
Or is it 1 76 and 1 75. And 1 Tiger 1 panther.
That was funny
Seriously, I thank you for your great work!
i think it’s just me
IOS though
No confirmation available here... Will be to test
It should count for any combination of 2 heavy tanks per team.
I think....
Logicly...
Someone poke Ben
:´}
what's up
The two heavy limit.
Can I spawn two tigers? Or is it 1 tiger and 1 panther at any given time
Now we just need to make Ben release the update sooner
Every image is 4k
@fluid pawn what about satchel charges ? are there any nerf ? Because if you nerf the bazookas, not needing the satchel would only make them even more of a necessity than they already are.
The videos are all in 1080p.
Hopefully Stalingrad will be played more often now
I cried for a second
Though RIP to the old one
They shouldn't be? I'll look into it if that's causing crashing will try update
I was being slightly facetious
@fluid pawn new blog post is class mate, would have been cool to see some before/after pictures on the stills, only feedback from myself mate, rest of it is really well done. Nice ASMR voice on the video 😉
But still, your pictures on the website take forever to load
Currently changes are only what are in the changelog. That said, this is only part 1 of the armor rework and we have U19 coming in Novemeber. Community sentiment will be essential so be sure to let us know your thoughts once U18 is live
I'm assuming that Yaw rate means turret turning left and right?
Overall, positive on the change log from me
Up down
No nerf to bazooka range is a missed opportunity
sooooo..... HOW MUCH DAMAGE DOES A SATCHEL DO????
Appreciate that Nyko! I'll be sure to feedback to the devs the need for before and after shots in the changelog. I tried to incorporate a few into the video which I'm glad you enjoyed!
Lowering damage is at best a bandaid fix
is it 1000?
Wait Ben don’t forget my question lmao
The two heavy limit.
Can I spawn two tigers? Or is it 1 tiger and 1 panther at any given time.
@fluid pawn do they survive a satchel now?
Whoever left in the ADS FOV slider you’re dumb
BS
Yesir
these stats make no sense. they imply that luchs had the same explosive radius as a tiger before
Im hoping for a change in U19 for that as well, for now the tanks will feel much better already so im happy. (for now)
Also yes
Imo opportunity for some tanks to have larger HE for example
I just saw the Panzer IV climb a trench, can we get a hallelujah for not getting stuck in it anymore xD
ADS FOV slider is literally game breaking like can we not
It doesn't allow less than the max now?
if 90 damage means 90 out of INFANTRY health, and luchs now indeed has a radius of 8 METERS its going to be very funny
i like most of it
rapid fire artillery lets goooo
Its cool that the two US heavy now are a bit diffrent. Im gonna need to play to know if the more HE actually makes a diffrence
no need to run up to kill the repairing tankers anymore, just wait till they try to fix the turrent :}
@fluid pawn sorry for ping.
The two heavy limit.
Can we field two of the same heavy, i.e. two tigers, at the same time?
Or is it forced to 1 Tiger and 1 Panther on the field?
It should still kill one shot? Or does it? Please... 😰
Is Arty now removed from the maps? With Commander having that ability? I've not played in a few months so may have missed this
I dont know either, but I think it is not, maybe thats something to change in U19 with SPGs.
-# When I say maybe I mean definitely.
Hmm bit concerned how OP that could be then, as 1-3 arty guns going at the same time and potentially another 3 on top in the same area could be crazy
Hmm, SPGs not the same.
Mainly direct fire.
Need indirect fire capability
what does the AT damage table mean ?
it doesnt say anything about where hit
What do you want me to say? 🥲
the stalingrad bug fixes 💀
and 37km/h default max speed for the luchs.
if its full damage and full penetration i read it as arse shots
Need mortars
He's confirming rn
Now im not sad about that, now it can run away faster from anything that isnt a truck. 
slap a speed boost and it's even faster than a jeep i guess
do yk what the at damage table means?
Poor recon tanks
Update thoughts? Y or N? 👍 or 👎
👍
net y
How many shoots you need in correlation to the max health when its a full pen?
no mention of tinkerer so 👍
Tinkerer got spawn camped so we get the Technician.
different role, similar idea
You should be scared though.
I'm in the truck
choosing a tank upgrade at spawn that adds logs / skirts / spare track etc not the worst idea
Good change
Update looking exciting! Can’t wait to try it out tomorrow!
Do we have any update on the bipod being added to FG and BAR? Was hoping to see it this update, maybe next?
just needs to not be mid game during battle, just at hq
Yee
Summed up everything here for folks that want to understand key points I'll make a video shortly going through this for everyone as well
if that is from the front then its an AT boost :}
The update looks solid
so its from the back
Still no bipod for the BAR or the fg...
Negative, this is not a change on the Penetration it's a change on dmg per hit
You mean AT stuff? Isnt that pretty clear? Only tank vs tank might change a bit.
How many satchels are required to kills tanks? Nothing about it in the blog in the PTE 1 satchel did not kill a heavy
how is it clear when it totally matters where you hit
I think he's just trying to understand the pen value of that
Is that from the front or back etc like u can do with medium Sherman
Assume this is from rear of vehicle
When you needed 2 from behinde before that and now need 4?
I guess Im weird.
no you engage in wishful thinking /j
In the blog it says “under prime conditions” so that’s damage when shot at the least possible armoured point.
Still dies to one satchel apparently
Very short sighted if true, but is speculation at this point
That /j is as serious as me when Im saying im gonna clean up.
i like the "get onto the tank to repair turrent" most, thats so funny
They would have said something about satchel changes if they were some. At least it would make sense after they did go into great detail about the rest
Yeah, it's exclusion is odd
i would not say that
totally possible that a satchel does 1000 dam
Imagine removing one hit kill mines after recognizing it was bad for gameplay to then add the same mechanic with satchels but worse
Well, satchels are 3kg of explosives...
I'll confirm this for you
That wouldnt be a satchel change tho 
I miss when AT mines were one shotters
but a valid point
Undirected, at best damage tracks
Not really...
Are you saying they've made it so satchels won't one shot a tank?
in the new update?
No
I wish
That would be incredibly based
Hot take: give satchelers 3 satchels per kit and don’t nerf them
There is historical evidence that multiple charges in satchel size didnt kill a tiger.
I cant say anything about the in game part.
*make everyone use 2 mines at a time
Give all loadouts unlimited satchels. Job done !
Oh, I get it now, you guys are crying that satchels can one shot a tank when it's over 7lbs of plastique? bahahaha
You have had to burn yourself with this take. It cant be diffrent.
Satchels wouldn't destroy a tank lol
Medic viable then? xD
All for it.
They would probably immobilise it, but nothing more than that
There is "historical evidence" that a great flood once happened and some guy built a giant ship to carry animals two by two
What the f uck is that argument supposed to be lmfao
It's not an argument and there you see my point
In any case, one-shotting tanks with satchel is sh it gameplay design
No it's not
If it was historically accurate, I'd support this decision, but it's not even that
Only one thing is written in an ancient mystical book and the other was about 80 years ago?
Not sure what you want me to tell you if you come at me like this...
For a game that HLL once was supposed to be, yes, it is
a 3kg pack of C4 or plastique is enough, I can assure you
hey, so before they remove arty, we can have 3 arty and 3 arty strike from the commander at the same time?
It can be enough if you're lucky; again, in most cases, it would not destroy the tank
Make satchel great again
well we had maybe 30 mins of positivity
It would probably kill the crew by spalling and cause a mobility kill, but the tank itself would get damaged only
It's undirected
Nonsense. If AT mines are nerfed to require two even for trucks... then there has to be at least ONE option for a one shot kill. Have you missed the fact that you need to run up to a tank and get the charge on it to make this work?
At best, only 1/6 of the blast is directed towards the armor
Infantry u18
AT mines should oneshot trucks :)
Oh, now we have physics and advanced math doctors in chat
It's obvious
And you aren't?
You can say that as much as you want, but it doesnt change reality neither ingame balancing.
Of course of course
You know how easy it is to run behind a tank without being Seen ?
obviously
What will happen if you place 2 kilos of dynamite on middle of one cubic meter of concrete weighing 2.3 tons? Nothing good that's sure so don't try this at home!
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Concrete = Steel
There waht 2kg does to a solid concrete block. Tell me it would pop a tank like a can opener when placed on the side, top or rear
Epic
Now do the same test with 40mm of face hardened steel
Dynamite = C4
Mate im nice, but you have repeated the same wrong take mutiple time.
There is nothing for me to do for you
I would stop now
There still are rules
"BuT tHAt 3kG cHaRGE iSnT diRected!"
Have a good time with your tank killing nerf discussions
@fluid pawn Hi Ben! Can I ask you please about Kubanka hat for new DLC?
All you have to do is search for historical accounts of explosives on tanks
Again, it would result in a mobility kill and probably at least severely injure the crew. But it would not blow the tank. And if you think a block of concrete equals a tank made out of steel, sorry, you are delusional.
lmao at HLL tanks
They dont belong in HLL's gameplay loop
my guess would be that it does a lot when you cram it under the sponsons, and not much otherwise
I'm confirming with the lead tank dev currently. Seems he's in a meeting however so hopefully will hear before we go live tomorrow 🙂
Damned meeting
The new Kubanka hat for DLC, has white ribbons instead of golden double ribbons! Ben, so it’s hat from the White army not Red army
Please just stop
We dont need to go into this further
Can you please pass it to T17 about color of ribbons
i mean its ok, we can just damage the tans and then snipe the crew when they try to repair their turrent :}
@fluid pawn are you able to get us an update on the status of bipods for BAR and FG?
Cause White and Red Army it’s opposite sides and they had different Kubankas
@fluid pawn Is the Jumbo 75 going from 500 to 600 or 600 to 500 even though it was already 500?
Fuel cost
btw does the bot interface support kicking tank squads ?
Its now 500 and it was 600.
From my understanding this is still in the works. Unfortunately my key contact in the dev team is on a much a deserved holiday this week so won't be able to get more info just yet.
It should be shown as a buff in this case, but its fine.
It’s always been 500
hopefully
That’s not a change
I dont think so?
Yes. I commanded plenty of games
@fluid pawn Ben pass it please about this hat for DLC, if you can, to T17, cause it seems like it has wrong white color. There is a small issue with DLC Cossack
stalingrad refresh, armor rework and no skin for T-34/76? thats sad
RIP. Eastern Front German skin for tank
Danish?
yea its 500
i dont see they buffet turret rotation speed at all
What time is patch out
still slow AF
this is your fault @worthy charm
It’s 500 and has been 500 for a while. So 1. There’s no change, 2. Even if it were it would be a buff
Why?
I just looked it up...
Ben this is a very serious concern
Did they mean 500 to 400 then?
300 even
Just make it the same as a jeep at this point.
Thank you, sir! Hoping to see that one in U19 maybe, then!
-# /s
that’d make it actually useful
But seriously, why now even skins for tanks or Cossack ones??
500 for a jeep?
I mean Tetrarch is the nearly the same speed as a jeep starting tomorrow
Wonder if we should have a desert race

Comestics
Vietnam is around the corner, better release DLC when that game comes
i assume that the Technician still needs supplies in order to build barricades/rep station/ammo dump, so they still need a drop or a support player to get out to the tank? the tank crew cant just build their own stuff all on their own, right?
It’s not released yet, how you would release dlc for it
We have enough of them
I've played online WWII games since 1998. This is not a new discussion: historical accuracy of weapons in games.
There IS such a thing as gameplay though. We don't want realistic WWII gameplay, or we'd be dead and stay dead until the next match. We respawn. That's not accurate.
We shoot half an en bloc clip and reload and never have to scurry off to pool ammo and make sure the clips or mags are loaded. We regularly sprint at fortified positions guns blazing in a heroic move to take out something called "a spawn". There were no "spawns" in the history of human conflict. We can't teleport
Later when it releases
Mechanic gets supplies
lol turret rotation is still unreallistic slow xddddd GG
So what's wrong with being able to wreck a tank with a 3kg pack?
It wasn’t like this
I havent played in a while and its weird seeing these many paid skins in the game
If you knew - satchels weren’t able to destroy heavy tanks
and? nobody respawned either
Also, Firefly has a 6.3s reload, not 8
Just to damage it
"We don't want realistic WWII gameplay"
You know, that kind of was the point of this game back then... to have realistic WWII gameplay... That's what (initially) kept it apart from games like Battlefield.
Quantity and effort.
Low effort, high quantity.
the German 3kg satchel was a SHAPED CHARGE
Too cost effective
And please spare me with the "umm akschually no one respawned back then, so this game is not realistic and thus we should just ignore realism altogether 🤓 ☝️"
thats how long YOU were alive Dorf 👀
I’m gonna fact check this entire sheet
wait, so tank crews now get a supply box too?
yes
And TCs can build garrisons
Who TF deleting random messages
joke
Im innocent I swear.
Spread misinformation
no idea what you talking about
😄
Is that the tinkerer there was so much hate about?
no
What is it then?
This man, delete his post
Just remember to still build nodes
That one got spawnchamped
Something new?
must have been an illusion 
Ah, but in what form? I might have missed it in the dev brief
👆
Can confirm u can spawn 2 heavies of same type
New update is good and confusing at the same time
Add more accurate tank camouflages as DLC
not gonna lie, I do not like that AT now takes 4 shots to kill anything
two 75 jumbos ❤️
I could've told you that based on the existence of the Africa maps
1000 fuel
its already hard enough to get your support guy to stick with you and drop ammo boxes
T-34 Guards tank brigade please
HQ arty is gone?
Its a lot, we will see how it workes out in the next few days.
No?
now i gotta coordinate with another squad's AT to go with me? yikes
Just commander gets arty now too
still slow AF rotation speed which is not reallistic at all
We would have never have made it so that only factions with 2 heavies can field 2 heavies, that's silly.
wat
AT rocket reduced to killing recon tanks and garrisons only now :<
everytime i think this team is done disappointing, they surprise me again
It was not confirmed as that was not the case in pte
yep its not even funny anymore
By that stage they should work with what they have, release new maps and fix old content. But I dont think new DLC is the right way, its just milking the game now which is sad
Then we’ll get SPGs and mortars on top of that
Think rationally boy
Not really, it still takes 2 guys to kill one heavy.
but hey new dlc $$$$ tank skins 🤓
That was what we needed
It feels like there's a LOT of things in this update that weren't in the PTE. i worry about stability tommorrow
with BF6 looming this week, that feels like a HUGE mistake.
Yeah. That PTE was an absolute mess.
Game needs new content but yes lets get DLC
BF6 is trash.. but yeah
So 10 minutes after the match starts, germans and driel brits can get 2 heavy pen heavies whereas the other factions are stuck with one per 10 minutes?
dlcs dont hurt anyone
People please move discussions about other games to #off-topic-mess-hall
regardless of what you think of it, it has a significant crossover with the population of this game. if this update is disasterous, i can see players leaving and not coming back, at least for a while
This man, delete his post
Yes, but it doesnt help the game either. It just makes it more inaccurate in some areas
BF6 is game about scam
who cares about historical accuracy, worry about gameplay balance instead
dont give them ideas 😂
OMG PLEASE!!!!!
Still I dont think it works like this, a pool for would make more sense. So you can have any combination or amount of heavys as long as you dont get above the 2 tank limit.
Explain please
its bound to happen at some point they butchered this game
This you?
lol @ "crossover between HLL and BF6"
This is actual cope.
People interested in BF6 are not juggling to play HLL also
lmao
But Ben is still on it
Give it to me. I neeeeeed it!!!
Game about not historical accuracy game about trash
-# /s
It isnt supposed to be about historical events
Could you imagine dying to a Hello Kitty Tiger tank
It’s in the future…
watch what happens to HLL player counts once bf6 releases, then. the week the beta went live, seeding servers got SIGNIFICANTLY harder.
BF6 scam of the age
@fluid pawn you know you want it
That only makes up a small part of their revenue, and there are better DLC uniforms to add
Ok I guess...
please focus on bashing the update, everyone
-# no comment...
Are server able to turn off the "who killed me and how" on the screen?
People wont even be able to play BF6, they gonna be busy playing the new cod.
Still lets move these discussion to #off-topic-mess-hall
-# all the comments >:)
Exactly. Thinking DLC makes the majority of the revenue is just false
I don't think so?
That's what Im saying, BF6 will syphon HLL players but it's not going to be the other way around. It's not a true crossover
price keeps going up and game keeps going down this studio fkg only made it worse
Its not automatic anyway
dude i mentioned it only because i was worried what will happen to the game if this update is a trash fire, the other idiots in here took it and ran with it
Those are custom tools
alright thanks for answering
ill stop asking questions then
@fluid pawn something I’m a little worried about with the new refresh is the fog element, hopefully you guys didn’t go to overboard with it
thanks.
oddly enough, I had a part in my video, where I say "no, I'm not worried about them adding a hello kitty tank, shadaaaap". Sad I cut it out 
Its fine, im just trying to keep the chat somewhat clean. It wasnt personal sorry if it came over harder then I intended. 😅
what i most like for now:
- kill tan crew while they repair their turrent
- double the arty (that was really needed)
Das you would look cute as frick in a hello kitty tank 
that would increase the times I was in a tank in HLL to 6 times - not counting when I just chilled in a recon tank as infantry
Can we get these funny meme tanks like the Bob Semple tank, M3 Grant, T28 or even the Sturmtiger or Jagdtiger?
thats why I sit out at the bigboi table, when tanks get discussed 

Now when would be news about U19 and PTE
U18 and U19 and then probably nothing for a few years (if we get any major updates after that)
When can we see a fix for the recon op exploit btw?
I don’t know @worthy charm said that it’s new map, but which map we don’t know
Hopefully not, I'm still waiting for a new winter map
He said its Solmesnk or something like that
Which exploit?
November
Whens the last time two major updates got pushed back to back like this lol
You stole that from me
Since when are these large updates already in November?
Pretty sure I used it on prince Paul once
HLLV will be the main focus and the WWII apsect of it will most likely be an afterthought
Oh really? I didn’t knew that
Sharing is caring
You don’t know? You can load up a recon op with a full 6 man squad
How about PTE before the update
Really? But yea its a rather unknown location and in 1943 it was neither that large nor that important
What?
I dont know but ben said its in November.
I dont make the News.
Ahh, I remember they used to be in December
Kharkov update was in December
Wasnt that like 3 years ago? 😅
Yeah, I mean that one is half a feature. Should just be limited to 1 rifleman but the spaghetti code would break.
At least they fixed being able to spawn any role on them
Yes
Again, I do not know what or who you mean
Oh thank god, still I’d like to see it completely gone soon.
It won't ever be completely gone. 1 rifleman spot must remain to allow you to always have a role to pick even after kicking someone
You
Ok
@worthy charm 😙
Yeah true
???
Thanks man
what the
One thing that does confuse me is why even nerf the Sherman 75mm ap damage in the first place? just seems like an unnecessary change, like I get they want to make it more anti infantry. But still leaves the Germans with two incredibly powerful heavy tanks
Elon musk I like him and how is he acting
How is that even possible
Is arty removed now?
Yes it’s going to be removed
😥
It can be presumed that its going to be removed, but I dont think the devs have confirmed
It’s new ability for Commander and new SPA
it should be removed. it's a crappy gameplay loop. arty firing, recon having to go back there and sit and camp on it to keep ppl off instead of actually doing other recon things
it’s replaced by Commander ability
its boring af
its always been crappy.
That
Not yet at least
So that means we get mortars and the StuG or Hummel or whats it called?
So then it’s improved to Commander ability
It isn't, yet. The ability is, for the time being at least, a thing that exists alongside the arty we all know and... love?
oh wait, wasnt for U19 expected, I misread 
I’ve expected mortars since the 90’s, always expect mortars
I just asked if we get them at some point
at some point? sure
Oh yes finally
As long as it isnt like the mortar in BF1s early days its fine
When Inf only maps?
New tank dlc soon 🔥
🫵 😬
No ATG changes in terms of how much damage they do to heavies or where they can pen?
Unknown
@oak current do you See the garry placements aswell with the new admin cam QoL (seeing both Teams)
Add more tank camouflages, more green or grey X white camouflages, maybe tank guards banner on T-34
Winter soviet - white / red
They didnt change armor values or add weakspots, so I dont thinks so. Probably just need more shoots.
if there just was a video that explained all the parts about this 

What are the plans for HLL1 if HLL2 will release soon?
Are there still plans for content for this game for 2026 and beyond?
Its not really HLL2 but more HLL UE5 in vietnam.
There are separate teams for the games, so they should still resume with the same development speed.
Mr Willes? Will there be HLLV Discord Mods?

🥲
You cant get rid of me
took out a heavy with recon tank lol
I would never 
the kedomin guy
Epic, that might get even harder after the update tomorrow.
yea ik you are confused about him too
why?
Of course he is providing best internet here
it was 4-5 shots from the back
Which is not lagging and works well; of course I would like him also for that and not only for that
the heavys get more life, patchnotes are in #telegrams
its currently 6
The guy with the salute common in the Roman empire
And?
it was already hit once then maybe? I was spamming the fire button
I don’t care he providing internet helping people
You dont do that
Has the sights changed on tanks
Please dont start a political discussion. ty
Maybe, or the adrenaline was so big it felt like 5. 😅
doubt
Nothing has been said about it, so I wouldnt assume they did.
yeah maybe 😂
so fun though me and my friend took out 2 tanks (1 heavy, 1 medium), 2 garries, a few OPs all in one life
and still lost the match in under 45mins 😂
When Monte Cassino?
all with a recon tank or truck whatever you call it
after pacific
Recon tanks it fine, even though the soviet recon "tank" is more of a truck then anything else.
Just and armored truck with a gun on his back.
yeah
you be nice to the little soviet recon tank

its adorable!
Im all for the little soviet recon tank.
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