mess-hall

[covert elbow]

Because their cool

[lost pumice]

i feel attacked

[worthy charm]

Epic fail

Thats wrong as well

[tall kettle]

https://i.imgur.com/oqjthtn.png

[cyan saddle]

The prefixes are so inconsistent

[chrome quail]

Is there ever a chance we will have a pacific theater scene?

[pine ember]

Yea, next year, it will be called Hell let loose: Vietnam

[pine timber]

@red stream lmaoooo you and your pacific

[pine ember]

It has been asked maybe 10000 times by now, its getting old

"Where is Pacific?" Guys, just wait and be patient

Its not just a new map and new faction

[fervent dagger]

It will only be added once the emu war is fully realised.

[azure heath]

There’s been over 1000 messages from the start of this year until now mentioning the pacific. So it’s entirely plausible.

[pine ember]

Its a long journey till we get the Pacific

[azure heath]

We’re averaging about 100-200 messages a month referring to the pacific

[finite berry]

<@&365680483276816385>

[azure heath]

don’t

[wind shore]

I think pacific is pacific

[analog apex]

scam alert!

[finite berry]

Not enough

[night lark]

Pacific. Now its 1001

[cosmic pilot]

You have Pacific at home

[azure heath]

I kinda wanna make a graphic for the amount of times pacific has been mentioned monthly from the dawn of this channel’s existence

[worthy charm]

Do it

[azure heath]

I’ll have time Sunday, I will do it

[worthy charm]

Please share that in https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/442293504714997762

[wind shore]

It’s not my video just shared it

[pine ember]

And these are shared in the videos

[brisk cobalt]

Where are the good commanders at on the pub matches I either steam roll in 15 mins or lose in hour in 10 mins from lack of nodes come battle me on pathfinders later only fight to fourth point no admin cam

[silver folio]

yoo im new to the game and loking fot someone to play with

dm me if you want, i just got the game yesterday

[raw halo]

When pacific?

[finite berry]

Tomorrow

[brave flower]

iam so excited about the HLL Vietnam

iam gonna buy every cosmetic dlc

i hope there will be some PLATOON references or cosmetics☺️

[slate canopy]

#pc-looking-for-unit

This would be appropriate for #ww2-history

[cosmic pilot]

Platoon was not a good movie

[wind shore]

When would be PTE

October 4-5?

Or 11-15?

[thin lotus]

who cares

[wind shore]

My bet is 11-12th of October

[brave flower]

Why?

if ur rating it on if it was realistic then ok, but story wise i cannot agree with u

[heady onyx]

is the STG44 still in the game?

or is it just not in the german afrika korps games

[pine ember]

Not in the DAK because it wasn’t used there

[livid karma]

Can someone explain the tinkere class??

In a nutshell

[gray lagoon]

Tankers will be able to make certain modifications to their tank but there will always be a tradeoff. For example you could increase the armor but that would decrease the manuverablility and the speed.

[covert elbow]

I pray to the sun that it isn’t added because that’s such a stupid idea

[gray lagoon]

Even if the modifications can only be made in HQs?

[covert elbow]

Yes

If they want modifications it should be actual visible changes like sand bags or different tanks

Simple number tweaking’s are a bad idea imo

[gray lagoon]

I thought they were going to make the tank look different if you make a modification but I might be wrong.

[livid karma]

Fire 🔥

[covert elbow]

That was never said

They said it would just be number tweaks

[gray lagoon]

We dont really know untill they release a PTE or the update

[covert elbow]

We did though

They already had the PTE

[gray lagoon]

That tobruk tinkerer wasn't finished or supposed to be in the PTE

[wind shore]

PTE is possibly drops 11-12 October

[covert elbow]

But it was still the tinkerer effect

And it didn’t change the tank visually

[gleaming scaffold]

What maps do you all think will be added to HLL Vietnam ?

[covert elbow]

Vietnam

Better question for #base-camp honestly

[real parrot]

I believe they toke the tinkerer clash off of their as

[worthy charm]

I see you mastered the automod.

[real parrot]

I'm the automod

[worthy charm]

So ninjaoxz is a dev and you are automod?

[real parrot]

How the turns tabled

[worthy charm]

Next thing he gonna tell me Kane doenst live in my Walls.

[nova pivot]

No, he actually does

[gentle lintel]

:}

[worthy charm]

I think we really need an emote for this. :}

We can call it :huk:

[wintry veldt]

sorry to disturb everyone but is there anyone i can talk to about a server? I got perma banned from one because I said what the hell to a admin because i thought it was wrong that under level 50's need to pay real money to play on their server, this wasnt stated anywhere in their welcome to server rules* and wasnt enforced until admins joined

im perma banned from their discord because i tried to appeal it thats why im asking here

[worthy charm]

Nothing there is to do really. Server owners can decide that on their own. Admittedly its a bit shady, but not forbidden to my knowledge.

Bob does Bob things I guess.

[wintry veldt]

yea its a bit shady thank you for your response though I was like what the hell??? it was like a hour after i said it in chat and a different admin

anyway enjoy your night/day

[night lark]

It is not forbidden. Server owners can set whatever level thresholds they like on their servers. I guess the payment is for VIP access?

[worthy charm]

Not at all, Bob the builder wants money for you to play on their server normaly.

-# thats what I heard at least.

[night lark]

Iirc VIP status in RCON overrides level thresholds

[night lark]

Bob the Builder was free when i used it a couple years ago

[wintry veldt]

it is free but if you are under level 50 you need to pay them to play on their servers if not the admin will just keep killing you until you leave I saw it happen a bunch and it happened to me. It doesn't say this anywhere on the server and I was level 30 earlier in the day and it was fine so i guess its up to the admins????

tbh forcing players in general to pay on your server is a horrible move most players wont even pay for VIP access to a server I dont know how they think its ok to kick under level 50 players because they didnt give them money :/

[night lark]

Did the server have a “level 50+” in its title?

[wintry veldt]

ill check rn but im 99% it didnt

[silk igloo]

i cant believe bob works for the mafia...

[wintry veldt]

nope it doesnt say it anywhere

and I read the server rules in game and it doesnt say it anywhere lol

[night lark]

Yeah nah sounds like a bad server then

[silk igloo]

could it be just a hacker that tries to scam players to pay him

[wintry veldt]

yea it is I think it was the owner that perma banned me from their discord cause I wanted to appeal it

he said because he pays for it so im assuming its the onwer but idk

[wintry veldt]

nah it was on their discord ticket and all

[silk igloo]

original bob sold it to a skinwalker

[wintry veldt]

just find it messed up that the owner can treat people like that lol

[wintry veldt]

might of been him sorry cant remember the name the ticket was open for like 3 mins

I even apologised for my language i never received a warning just perma ban

[hoary cobalt]

omg i finally know why I couldnt connect to any servers

its because my time was out of sync on linux

Guys pro tip if you are dualbooting either set windows to utc or preferably linux to local to have the time be correct

[real parrot]

I can't connect to some servers because our local football show provider blocked Internet services china style because people "pirated football"

[pure lion]

Can anyone help me with something?
I have a problem when I play with a PS5 DualSense controller on PC. Every time I aim down sights, the game freezes for a moment. But if I use the mouse, everything works fine with no issues.
I’ve already tried many things: disconnecting the mouse and only using the controller, enabling and disabling all settings, cleaning the controller, changing Steam Input options, etc. But nothing has worked so far.
Has anyone else had this issue, or does anyone know a fix?

[silk igloo]

Does it happen with every button or just the triggers

[past vortex]

are you using the triggers to aim

[pure lion]

Nah just the aim button

[pure lion]

Yes

[past vortex]

trigger on controllers are analog, hll doesnt get along with that

try setting it to digital in the controller config somehow

maybe just narrow the range to a single value

[pure lion]

Let me check it

[molten sail]

they need to add the pacific.

[tall kettle]

https://i.imgur.com/oqjthtn.png

[pure lion]

Still have the problem so I think It's impossible to solve ;-;

[past vortex]

why would you want to use a controller anyway

[pure lion]

Because I'm crap playing with keyboard 😂

[worthy charm]

You guys are really gaslighting these poor devs.

[past vortex]

its reciprocal

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

I prefer vietnam over pacific

[past vortex]

why doubt

they never played their own game because they think the UI is in any way acceptable

[worthy charm]

What should I say...

The UI could be better, but its not an issue in my opinion.

-# no one saw that

[past vortex]

omfg

you are a causual :O

[worthy charm]

filthy casual please

[past vortex]

i mean... a tank driver only needs to listen to the tank commander :}

[worthy charm]

Mostly

Add complaining about infantry players and looking out for trenches to the list.

Then the holy trinity of casual hll tanking is complete.

[past vortex]

the tank commander on the other hand suffers from the UI as much as everyone

[silk igloo]

infantry in hll is literally infant-ry

[fervent dagger]

Out of curiosity, Whats your issues with the Ui?

[past vortex]

lol i should do a writeup

[covert elbow]

What’s not to hate lmao

[past vortex]

i guess a lot of players really play that unaware

so they dont see the problems you have when you want to keep track of everything

:}

they should still notice the stupidity of the spawn map tho

[fervent dagger]

Sheesh. I got my own issues with it, I was just curious what yours was.

[slate canopy]

What you hate about the UI doesn't mean everyone else will hate it. 🤷‍♀️

[past vortex]

id like to hear how you cope with it or if you just dont do that stuff

i am acutely aware that many players just dont chec stuff and it very much shows in causual servers :D

[slate canopy]

I've never had an issue with the UI 🤷‍♀️ I usually have an issue with people not marking stuff. (ie a couple nights ago as a tank crew and no one marking tanks... sigh)

[solar slate]

Make a thread in suggestions to refer to

Huh i haven't played hll in two months now

Crazy how i just dropped it when it was my go to for so long

[thin lotus]

Players using the defaulted 500m, 100% opacity teammate icons, so all they see in their vision's horizon is a bunch of solid blue dots, and unnecessary useless information overload.
"Why can't I see anything? Where am I getting shot from???"

HLL devs have no idea of the concept of 'less is more' when it comes to UI.

[wind shore]

there are 60 second servers (without commander...)

[azure heath]

The default is literally unplayable. They need to turn the opacity down the further they are from you and shrink them in the same respect.

[thin lotus]

It truly is unplayable to anyone that knows better. and that's where the problem is presented two-fold.

Firstly, it's the default setting -so everyone new to the game will think that's what's acceptable and required, and second, given that it's literal in-game information being displayed -these players are going to be less inclined to change it because they'll think they'd be putting themselves at a disadvantage when doing so, ie "why would I give myself less info?"

As simple as the game is, HLL has never had a good onboarding for new players, but the way iconography is handled is definitely the most egregious in hindering. But yeah, let's implement a firing range for newbs because reasons.

[wraith kiln]

Hello, where can I talk about how the mods act on r/HellLetLoose?

[slate canopy]

Hi there, you are free to use the mod mail in the Reddit.

[wraith kiln]

Tried to start a discussion on the HLL subreddit about features from Red Orchestra 2 I wish were in HLL. Mods nuked it.

According to them: “Discussions about features found in other titles… are allowed.”

Apparently not if you actually name the title. 🤔

[slate canopy]

Again, please use the modmail.

[wraith kiln]

I dont think they will see reason

[slate canopy]

That's the best way to contact them. 🤷‍♀️

[wraith kiln]

Just nice to see I guess

another subreddit of one of the fun games that I enjoy to play now and then being filled with incompetent mods

[slate canopy]

Depending on how the post was phrased, it may be removed if it's just praising another game, versus "I'd like to see ___ in HLL"

Please keep the drama out of here tho 😅

[wraith kiln]

I run r/BattleBrothers , as the mod there, for the exact reason that I despise mods like these that decide what people want to see and don't want to see, when clearly community engagement is there in the post and many people liked the discussion

Modding is you being a servant to the community, not a tyrant

something a lot of people as mods on reddit don't seem to understand

[wind shore]

Hello Polar! how are you? I have a question

[slate canopy]

I'm allright. What's up?

[wind shore]

Can I DM you?

[wind shore]

DMed

[slate canopy]

I'll have a look.

[slate canopy]

Again, you're free to use the modmail. I'm sorry you're upset by this situation but that's the best way to handle it.

[wind shore]

Hi guys!

📣

[gentle lintel]

I’m a girl

[cosmic pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/attention-give-me-attention-pay-attention-to-me-love-me-ignored-gif-2471381538484738508

[wind shore]

I have a question

[wind shore]

when is new update

[azure heath]

I’m too high for this 💩

(i don’t do drugs, ts is a lie)

[solar slate]

At minimum all the icons should shrink or even disappear when you aim for everyone that's not within your direct LoS, can't count the number of times an enemy got me only because there was a random teammate behind him somewhere far away, rage-inducing

[analog apex]

I agree - the marker visibility system has been bad in HLL, it blocks the vision and especially if many markers and especially somebody keeps tracking a moving tank in my aiming angle with a new marker every second so pressing T to hide won't work as the new markers keep appearing even afterwards... annoying.

The markers shouldn't be placed on the ground/object in the 3D world, the markers should be further above the marked spot/object - the further we are from them, the more they should be higher.

I also hate that when we press T to hide the UI and markers, the markers are disappearing in a slow dissolve transition. I would love if they disappeared straight away in an instant instead.

[pine ember]

We dont know it yet

[dense jewel]

The Forgotten Paratroopers of Operation Market Garden
https://youtu.be/va8ONl0oBwg

[granite nexus]

https://prnt.sc/nVa_ZPeWdF9-

anybody else has this problem?

[analog apex]

when getting to main menu?

rare, but when happens I can't get into the game for quite some time - no matter how many attempts... until the game decides it slowed me down for long enough and starts working when I try an hour later

[river rover]

There's no definitive just do this or that and it will work. Some just try again and it works fine. Check your Date\Time are correct and that you have it synced to the Internet. Be sure your system is fully patched\updated including "Optional" and flip switch for "Other Microsoft Products" and be sure you're fully patched \ updated. These are the main few. You can check all others in (https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1270189497719586908)

[lost pumice]

u on wifi?

[granite nexus]

👍

[lost pumice]

yea that may be it. hardwire if u can

[rare finch]

I can’t believe how hard it is to find a 100 player warfare and offensive on console

[broken forge]

is it me or que system been hella buggy lately

to join server

[azure heath]

just you

[broken forge]

sucks

[sage badge]

its so buggy recently

[analog apex]

How recently? And how exactly buggy, guys? 🤔

I am just interested, as today I had my 1st HLL session after around 1-2 weeks. So just asking in case I missed anything. But to my knowledge there was no update or anything...

[worthy charm]

slight sarcasm detected

[analog apex]

misfired 🙂

[worthy charm]

Or not? 😅

[analog apex]

nope, not this time

I believe my 2nd post explains it...

[worthy charm]

But no new updates sadly, we are still waiting on the next dev brief.

[empty steppe]

I think I’m going on 1 month without playing hell let loose 😅

I’ve noticed a increase in productivity and defending democracy!

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-40k-spacemarine2-heresy-heretic-gif-15781539930698202487

[analog apex]

I have been losing my HLL appetite recently, quite a big deal. Maybe I am finally gettign fed up... especially since there are no any meaningful changes being made and/or very slow.

[empty steppe]

Real…

Sadly

[worthy charm]

Very slow, the "big" changes are still ahead of us.

[analog apex]

yep. And I am still being afraid what they will do with the tinkerer.

[empty steppe]

Tbh for me it’s just too much of a time commitment where as I can hop on another game without the commitment

[worthy charm]

Or at least bigger changes than we got since release lol

[empty steppe]

Oh yay new map 🥲

I’ll play for one day!!!

[worthy charm]

Smolensk is nice but im more intersted in the new tank system and the arty rework.

Hopefully they completely remove the current arty. :}

[empty steppe]

At this point, sadly I’m just not interested anymore, which is depressing for me to say 😅

[worthy charm]

Otherwise the rework migjt be a bit pointless

[wind shore]

Are we getting Smolensk?

[worthy charm]

Shoo🧹

[wind shore]

do you know when it was suggested and where

[analog apex]

I have no idea for how long I will stick around. I "left" a few times in the past, but that was out of protest against changes and because of my disagreement with the direction of the game.

Today however, I feel different. I sometimes am almost apathetic towards HLL these days... I am slowly but surely stopping caring about it.

[thin lotus]

X Doubt

[wind shore]

cause it was mentioned in QA somebody suggested this in discord, i can't find the topic

[empty steppe]

Ditto

[thin lotus]

You’ve got another 20k hours left in you

[empty steppe]

Sam you speaking absolute facts

[wind shore]

Smolensk is coming in November

[analog apex]

Surely I will stick around till end of the year at least and will see how it goes afterwards. But if the upcoming "overhauls" will be as cheap as the medic one, I will limit my HLL gaming for sure. What I will play as a replacement, I however have no idea...

[wind shore]

PTE would be in 11-12 October I guess, or 4-5

[thin lotus]

See you in Vietnam

[worthy charm]

Honestly its impressive to me how you were able to stick around as long as you did.

[analog apex]

Yeah, no life allows it 😄 . That's another thing... I may be "getting one" in the upcoming year so maybe that's also why I am starting to think different. 😏

[worthy charm]

Sam aint gonna play that... nor are you I assume.

-# probably

[empty steppe]

I ain’t buying it on launch

I’m waiting

[silk igloo]

getting one, a life... are you going to name him Garrison?

[worthy charm]

Im not gonna do either.

-# looks into Bens direction.

[empty steppe]

Bro don’t you get it for free 😭

[analog apex]

Yep, I don't want to play it. But I always wonder... could I buy it just because of interest in seeing UE5 in action? Probably not... idk.

Vietnam has always been an unwanted war for me.

[empty steppe]

Tbh… I still think it’s a stupid choice for them

[thin lotus]

I’ll try Vietnam. Won’t take long to know if it’s just a reskin.

[empty steppe]

they had so much potential with even the pacific

[analog apex]

If I was to buy HLL:V, definitely not without a good low enough priceTag... either via G2a or to catch some good official sale.

[wind shore]

it's not possible, the current engine and code is broken, they do it from 0

[worthy charm]

I dont know... but I would take it obviously. Otherwise I have to buy it, which might be hard as a Student on bafög.

[wind shore]

I'll buy HLLV

but i'm not fan of Vietnam tbh

[cyan saddle]

You tried buying me silksong wdym

[wind shore]

I've played cold war area games, but it's boring

[worthy charm]

thats diffrent ok

[wind shore]

gonna buy it cause it's HLL, and expect more experience

[worthy charm]

Wrong emote

[thin lotus]

It absolutely can be a reskin regardless of what engine it is, or where they’re starting from on a technical standpoint. It’s the gameplay and how it functions as an fps

[empty steppe]

Seriously… Finnish front, Pacific theater, literally anything would have fit and held the player base better 😅

[worthy charm]

Random bongoberg

[analog apex]

now instead of teleport tables, there will be teleport holes for the Vietnamese and they will call it the tunnel system xD

inacessible holes ofc

[worthy charm]

Still hope for more than that, teleporting tunnels against helis is a somewhat "weird" way to balance.

[wind shore]

would be helicopters in HLLV

[worthy charm]

My hopes and expectations are higher than they should be honestly...

[analog apex]

maybe they will make some as a part of the map... like the caves on Tobruk. But I am rly skeptical of them doing it still anyway.

[thin lotus]

The devs basically opening up their introduction to the next game as “we’re keeping what makes hll unique” is not the assurance they think it is.

Hlls is chock full of uniquely terrible decisions, decisions that need to be removed entirely

[empty steppe]

Hll in a nutshell

[worthy charm]

You know what you did!

[tall kettle]

https://i.imgur.com/oqjthtn.png

[empty steppe]

Oops 😬

Cooked

[analog apex]

yeah, there is probably no system in HLL that would be correctly/logically implemented. Problems in everything.

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-patrick-spongebob-meme-straight-to-jail-gif-13122641551688707857

[empty steppe]

But in all fairness, as big of a meme the pacific was, A lot of people wanted it 😅

[worthy charm]

It cant be worse than HLL now can it? 😂

What could they do worse?

They added a few things which are nice I guess, but the worst thing in my opinion would be if its "the same" as hll now.

[wind shore]

I would buy HLLV definitely

[worthy charm]

What do I know tho...

[wind shore]

and play it, needs something which would catch me into it

[analog apex]

add loot boxes 😄

[wind shore]

for example something what i would like in it, and gonna jump into Vietnam

WW2 guns - gonna be cool for me

[empty steppe]

Fr fr

[worthy charm]

Depends, are they like OW1 or like the Star Wars BF2 on release? 😆

[thin lotus]

Yup. If they’re playing it safe, that’s probably the worst thing they can do

[wind shore]

needs battlepass

for HLLV

[analog apex]

or special loadouts, locked behind a paywall

[wind shore]

like pink helicopter camouflage

[analog apex]

there are always options how to make a game to be hated xD

but I don't think they would go with a pink helicopter way

[worthy charm]

Flamethrower for US is a 30€ DLC

xD

[empty steppe]

I can’t see it it’s no access

[analog apex]

me neither

[wind shore]

idk why players says that devs are greedy on money, it's completely wrong, they only selling the game, and high quality and good skins and uniforms, it's wrong to say it, they don't do like Fortnite and other devs do stuff, like COD and others

[empty steppe]

Shoot dang

[wind shore]

what

[worthy charm]

Epic archieved channel from 2021 moment?

[analog apex]

"high quality" [caugh caugh]... the plastic German cap [caugh caugh]

[empty steppe]

#bring it back

[worthy charm]

Imagine you would be a mod...

[empty steppe]

I don’t wanna imagine

[worthy charm]

Fair enough

[analog apex]

just make a screenshot mate 🙂 😜

[worthy charm]

You dont want one, I only got my phone with me.

[analog apex]

Aaaanyway, I gtg guys. Have to wake up for work early tomorrow 🥶 . See you around later 😉 .

[worthy charm]

Dream of eating cheesecake please 👋

[analog apex]

never ate a cheesecake in my life yet... I honestly still don't know if it's made of actual cheese or if it's just a name for some sweet pie/cake

[empty steppe]

Fr where they at bro

[empty steppe]

You should eat one

[analog apex]

omg 2018... they (the bayonetts) are still in our dreams only, even today... 7 years later 😫

[worthy charm]

Are you really reading the old discord messages now? 😭

[empty steppe]

I just pick a random date and the answer somebody’s question

[gentle lintel]

What just happened

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-kermit-the-frog-kermit-the-frog-meme-worried-kermit-sad-kermit-gif-2908512056935738589

[worthy charm]

Cheesecake pinging poeple with answering their old messages again.

Even a message of a pre mod Drew I think.

[empty steppe]

Been long enough bro

[wind shore]

In November

[empty steppe]

He got first server mention of cheesecake, legit revolutionary

[silk igloo]

ooh, go back to 2019 or so

ooooh, look up when chum was still positive

[empty steppe]

I’ve seen it bro

[silk igloo]

it's a bit sad.

i wish chum picks up hllv and it's everything he wanted, and he'll be positive again

[thin lotus]

If it’s not a good fps game first and foremost, it doesn’t matter what they do afterwards with it. No amount of helis or uniform or map authenticity will matter.
It’ll be immediately apparent how it functions as an FPS.

[silk igloo]

We'll see. Doubt it's going to be too different, but there's a chance to at least leave everything behind

[thin lotus]

No doubt the first thing I’ll be testing are weapons’ damage values. If they’re mirroring the same as hll, that’ll tell enough with what they want to do with this ‘franchise’.

[solar slate]

I don't like jungle maps

[slate canopy]

Then... dont play HLLV?

[solar slate]

Indeed

If they managed to fix the ass-backwards gamemode that is warfare and actually made it fun to engage with the metagame I might still get it

Not holding out hope tho

[azure heath]

I’d like a 5 page essay from you regarding all your concerns with the warfare gamemode.

[glossy ridge]

Got all my keybinds reseted today after an internet crash.... do i have to rebind all of them again ? or is there something to do to have them back ?

[night lark]

you are cooked bro, gotta re do them all then find your config file and set it to readonly

[glossy ridge]

Thank you for the tips

[night lark]

C:\Users\-user-\AppData\Local\HLL\Saved\Config

[night lark]

incase you didnt know where the config file was

[glossy ridge]

Yes im on it now its input.ini

[past vortex]

better make a backup instead of read only
because you cant change it anymore in game and an update might even break it

[glossy ridge]

i did this :kekw: saved a copy of my cfg yes in case someting happen again

[last creek]

Uhh, I have a question. Hypothetically someone got drunk and said a naughty word, then got the “barricade banned” how would they go about getting unbanned?

[slate canopy]

Generally it will tell you how to on the "You're banned" message.

Most likely the discord for that server to appeal.

[rich ocean]

does anyone here know anything about sirens

[gentle lintel]

The 🚨 kind or the 🧜‍♀️ kind

[slate canopy]

I was thinking the same thing lol

[gentle lintel]

I prefer the 🧜‍♀️ kind

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-darkside-star-wars-evil-innerme-gif-14818845

[haughty mist]

Are the servers tweaking for anyone else

[covert elbow]

[sacred fern]

I just got a fatal error. Anyone know why? I launch it once, get the error, and crashes. I open the game again and it works fine
"LowLevelFatalError [Fle:Unknown] [Line: 317)
Waiting for PSO creation failed to complete within the timeout interval"

[lofty kiln]

I had the same issue today after installing for the first time, I validated the integrity of the game files and updated my graphic driver. Not sure wich of those fixed it, but it worked after that.

[sacred fern]

interesting. I know my drivers are up to date. I havent tried to validate my files in a long time so maybe i'll try that.

[slate canopy]

Clear cache too?

[sacred fern]

i could do that too

[empty steppe]

Lmao I already have 😇

[livid saffron]

Is there a discord for HLL Vietnam?

[covert elbow]

#base-camp Yes

[slate canopy]

It's part of this discord.

[livid saffron]

Thanks

[livid saffron]

So we talk about it here or in #base-camp

[slate canopy]

Basecamp

[high locust]

is hell let loose vietnam gonna have tanks or is it just infantry trucks and boats

[covert elbow]

What do you think I am, some kinda snitch?

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-a-spy-and-a-snitch-carmen-sandiego-gina-rodriguez-he-cant-be-trusted-dont-trust-him-gif-16744324

[worthy charm]

Dont forget he is a dev! 👀

[covert elbow]

No…

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/goatplaybanjo-macron-étonné-ah-bon-gif-13258268339753077412

[torpid minnow]

@torpid minnow

[pseudo rock]

Tanks, boats, and helicopters and i assume logistical trucks 👍

[worthy charm]

Maybe even a chinook with supplies? 🥹

Would be pretty cool

[pseudo rock]

O for sure!!

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-shock-gif-25181705

[analog apex]

Chinook!
Sees: [Chinook flies over the map in a straight line and drops a parachute with the HLL1 supply drop model] 😄

[worthy charm]

-> Commander wants to build garrison
-> Chinook flies over commander
-> Drops Crate for Commander
-> Commander gets hit by crate
-> dies
EPIC HELL LET LOOSE MOMENT

[silk igloo]

that gave me an idea. some shells should be duds but eviscerate people on a direct hit anyway

[analog apex]

Plenty of small arms duds in HLL1 already 😏

[silk igloo]

ah, true. resistance sabotaged the cartridges

[novel geyser]

Le ptsd moment xdddd

[worthy charm]

Real

[analog apex]

But whizzling sound in the ears the explosions/arty impacts are lacking in HLL... I wish there was a sound FX like in CoD.

Even better for PTSD.

[novel geyser]

Monkeys paw curls and you get cod ww2s sound design

[worthy charm]

Fun Fact tho, when you kill someone with the boys AT rifle you can get the achievement of killing someone with the PTRS.

Peek HLL achievement moment

[silk igloo]

a dud artillery shell would be great though, as a rare occurrence. I'm so lucky, got saved by a dud! three more shells in the air

[novel geyser]

Peek hll achievement is get 100 kills with a transport truck in one life

[analog apex]

don't give them even more sick achievement ideas, we already have a few illogical & impossible ones, no need for more 😜

but I am surprised they didn't respond to the refuests of such achievements removal... well, actually not surprised at all 😄

[worthy charm]

Im looking forward to 50 kills with a helicopter.

[novel geyser]

100 door gunner kills in one life

[worthy charm]

Killing a full helicopter might even be possible, unlike the halftrack one.

[novel geyser]

And the achievement will of course be called "get sum"

[novel geyser]

I forgot that was an achievement
Lol
Lmao even

[analog apex]

in HLL1 even a full jeep is impossible, let alone the full halftrack one... and yet the devs are keeping them in

[silk igloo]

if NVA has OPs its going to be funny dipping low to take them out

only need to fly 15m from the ground if it's the same

[thin lotus]

heli fixed height flying with a 'press button to land' prompt

🙈

[analog apex]

...on one of the few pre-determined landing spots spread around the map xD

[worthy charm]

Oh, I get that the expectations are low, but that low is a bit harsh.

[analog apex]

...while trip conducted by an AI pilot without any playable pilot role in the game

[thin lotus]

I'm already guessing that helis will be a call-in resource similar to the previous garbage known as airheads. Not free reign flyable at all times like Battlefield.
It'd be way too difficult to balance against the NVA, especially given the map size

[worthy charm]

The steam page states it otherwise.

[analog apex]

and all those map details the devs would need to do outside the playable areas (but visible from the helis)

but... well... maybe UE5 can take care of that

[analog apex]

let's not forget HLL's KS page has stated many things too 😏

but we'll see... HLL2 is not being made by indie devs anymore

[worthy charm]

Exactly + a steam page for a full release title is a bit more binding then a KS page for a new devs team.

Thats a reason why I would really think about giving people money in KS

Huh? 😅

What?

[analog apex]

aaah, misread/misunderstood
forget it, it never happened 😄

[thin lotus]

Heli functionality, sure. But as a call-in still.
One team having access to air traversal in a game completely about spawnbombing around the map's active points is incredibly one-sided.

[analog apex]

hence, the "tunnel system" of the Vietnameese to counter... with their own spawn bomb ways

[worthy charm]

Fair point, we gotta see how they handle tunnels vs. Helis. Could be hard indeed.

[silk igloo]

I bet they can be flown outside of normal bounds. AA will make it trickier than simply pressing a button for an airhead, no need to run at an airhead if you can shoot it from 500 meters away

I was thinking that they could balance it so that it's only spawnable outside of bounds, so the heli would do insertion trips of squads, rather than serving as a team spawn (only one or two officers can spawn in, grunts can only spawn if their officer is in, then it'd stay more cohesive)

[nova pivot]

Boys please this is not the correct channel

#base-camp

[analog apex]

true enough

[nova pivot]

That is the correct one for speaking about vie🤢...viet🤢... Sorry boys I'm a ww2 fanboy

I'm going to buy the game anyway

Lol

[silk igloo]

i blame wiles for starting it, mods leading us innocents astray

[analog apex]

I just wonder about one thing right now... if HLL ever allows the SLs to manage the squad while alive.

and if the armor rework will be as cheap as it initially looks [caugh] tinkerer loadout [caugh]

and what they will do with the HQ arty guns

and what they will do to make lives & ammo matter

etc. ...yeah... actually far more than one thing, but well... 😄

[thin lotus]

Right, like you have to commit to heli by spawning within it as it's getting called in, similar to that of the airheads limited spawnwaves upon touching ground. Otherwise, being able to freely ferry soldiers to and from any location around the map would be way too volatile and OP

There's just not enough player coverage on a huge map that could actively combat what helis are doing otherwise

[analog apex]

would be the most logical way tbh

if acted as an airhead, the heli spawnpoint would get active only when the heli is landed on the ground and only for 30-60s. After that, it gets into a cooldown mode and can get activated as a spawnpoint only after the cooldown and a next landing.

but that's a #base-camp topic again

[worthy charm]

Im sorry🥲

[nova pivot]

Ban this dude

He doesn't want to come to my swimming pool

[thin lotus]

Still, seeing a heli clowncar dumping an entire teams' worth of soldiers would be stupid, even with a sort of cooldown.

[analog apex]

it would need to be respawn amount limited as well, to spawn only like 12 people

...12 SLs who build OPs and make it unlimited right afterwards 😄

[thin lotus]

the devs really need to think this through

[analog apex]

HLL devs thinking of consequences of their changes/decisions? ... that would be a first

no mater if the new or the old ones

I still can't figure out how could they possibly come up with the tinkerer loadout idea... totally out of place

[thin lotus]

tanks were a mistake, but most cant accept that truth

[analog apex]

yup, I belong to that most too 🙂 ... because it's not the truth/fact. It's just an opinion.

[opaque arrow]

hey yall, whats up

[thin lotus]

its not opinion that tanks are at odds with everything about the game

[analog apex]

lemme check

only the ceiling

[opaque arrow]

i havent played since over 1 year haha

[thin lotus]

infantry materializing around the map and capping points

[opaque arrow]

going to take my physics 2 exam and my calculus 3 exam, if i pass both i'll play the game again as a reward (or torture)

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/macfarlands-laughing-dad-joke-gif-25645182

[thin lotus]

blowing up tanks cause infantry isn't bound to grounded traversal as tanks are,
tankers constantly unhappy
devs bothering with weird balance efforts in tank v tank scenarios
maps that need to consider how a tank might exploit an entire side.

Tanks were a mistake

[analog apex]

that's why some keep asking for a buildable vehicle spawnpoint to... eeehm... solve the problem 😄

[nova pivot]

That actually doesn't sound that bad

[analog apex]

exactly, it's not just bad, it sounds even worse

[nova pivot]

Probably in the second blue point?

[thin lotus]

plus then all the resource node 'gameplay' garbage that you have to interact with to spawn more tanks.
it's just one bad thing after another and they're all linked

[nova pivot]

Game is cooked

[analog apex]

that it is
has been for a long time now

[worthy charm]

huge Node rework in 2026 I have heard :}

-# /s

[thin lotus]

removal > rework

[analog apex]

nope

[worthy charm]

Fair actually

[analog apex]

it's a matter of opinion again as well as the matter of the way of implementation

[thin lotus]

they arent touching nodes for the rest of this game

whats there is there

[opaque arrow]

whats the best new thing to be added in this past year?

[twin galleon]

ben

[analog apex]

"to be added" in the "past year" ?

that's a past tense vs a future

[worthy charm]

Bro giving a grammar lecture

[opaque arrow]

i had a feeling someone would pick that out

[worthy charm]

Dont make me summon all german articles.

[analog apex]

nope, I am sure I called it wrong too... past tense is something past but different than this... maybe
still mixing the "was", "have been", "had been"...

[opaque arrow]

i believe it to be grammatically correct, sorry english is not my first language

[thin lotus]

i'd say it's the slow transition to foggy weather they keep advertising.
dynamic. revolutionary gameplay, even

[worthy charm]

Not that much tho, we are getting a lot in the next 3 months.

-# in comparision at least

[analog apex]

the only best thign we got, is the MG bipodding overhaul, that much is actually good. But once they were don with it, they stopped fixing the still bad (impossible) bipodding spots

aka the broken barn buildign that's in middle of SMdM's AA network for instance - windows still non-bipodable despite reported

[opaque arrow]

hey i remember this!

[analog apex]

the devs do not, it seems... so sad. They thoroughly ignored it out.

[opaque arrow]

its not a bug, its a surprise feature

[worthy charm]

surprise feature mechanic

-# (aka. loot boxes)

[analog apex]

Kinder surprise xD

we never know if it will work or not

but to be honest, there aren't that many spots where it doesn't work. However, that barn has many instances spread all around most of the maps, which makes it a problem.

and therefore it doesn't make sense even more, that they ignore that problem

HLL devs... what else can we say?

[worthy charm]

You can ping Ben and ask about it.

/S

👆

[analog apex]

what is that /s ?

what does it mean?

[worthy charm]

Sarcasm

[analog apex]

aaah 😄

[worthy charm]

Im marking my trolling so people dont take me takes for real.

[analog apex]

and I hoped it's some kind of invocation and "a" and "m" would come after 😄

but yeah, Ben if you happen to be reading this, it's a valid question about that problem

I reported it in the PTE feedback form as well as in the feedback section here, and not just myself. And yet it has been ignored.

[nova pivot]

@fluid pawn

[analog apex]

cmon, if I wanted to ping him, I would have done it myself 😏

[nova pivot]

I don't care

I just love ben

❤️

[worthy charm]

Ben maybe not working anymore (hopefully).

[analog apex]

but he's green...

[nova pivot]

Yes he is

[analog apex]

and I am actually offline 😄

I never turn green

[nova pivot]

Why

[analog apex]

I like being incognito

the same on the Steam

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/you're-glowing-glowie-glow-fed-federal-agent-gif-18145004865796822754

[nova pivot]

I'm always green

[analog apex]

according to my Steam, I was "Last Online 237 days ago" xD

[nova pivot]

Lol

[analog apex]

but I am online all the time I am at the PC

[nova pivot]

Sam

[analog apex]

SPARTA

[nova pivot]

Hello 👋

[worthy charm]

Müller

[analog apex]

Uhm... Hi 👋

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-chris-tucker-go-away-no-thanks-shoo-gif-4765221

[nova pivot]

How are you doing? 😀

[analog apex]

Currently not the best.

Hopefully it will get better over time.

Work as well as non-work-wise.

[nova pivot]

Do you want a hug ?

[analog apex]

No but thanks 😄

[wind meteor]

Ayyyyyyyyy

[nova pivot]

🥺

Now I have a hug but nobody to give it to

Who wants a hug?

[empty steppe]

Goood morning

[echo karma]

Update ever come out?

Been 12 days since Tele. So no

[cosmic pilot]

Good <@&939118461865566248>

[worthy charm]

U18 comes next month and U19 in November.

[echo karma]

The tanks changes are tu19?

[worthy charm]

U18 -> Tank and Stalingrad rework
U19 -> SPAs and Smolensk

[sick bramble]

u18

[echo karma]

Lotta ppl didn't like the tweaks I see

Not balanced at all

[worthy charm]

They are still working on it. Personally I dont get it when its just a PTE.

[echo karma]

Vietnam is confirmed summer?

[worthy charm]

Like when people complained about a danzig pte

[worthy charm]

Nah

[echo karma]

Pte too small to test such drastic changes imo

[worthy charm]

True, especially when its only a weekend.

[echo karma]

After 19 we probably won't see an update for awhile then

[sick bramble]

i hope that we will see more skillful tank gameplay

[echo karma]

Dev team too small to juggle 2 games

[sick bramble]

other than no brain who shot first

[worthy charm]

There are 2 teams

[echo karma]

Tank engagements are very tiny too. Plus no ticket system so infy just spams AT

[thin lotus]

👏 tanks were a mistake

👏 ptes were never about testing

[echo karma]

It will be the same issue on Vietnam too. 50v50 requires a small area or its running 24/7

Do we know the price on Vietnam? Surely 70$ is a stretch

[thin lotus]

No less than $50

[echo karma]

I'd pay 50$ if it was polished af but we all know it's gonna be jank as a mfer

[sick bramble]

tbh

[echo karma]

40 is just a solid price on indy games ngl

[sick bramble]

you're gonna see if its worth it 50$

thanks to reviews

with mixed and below dont buy

[thin lotus]

HLL doesnt get the "indie" pass anymore, hasn't for a long while now

[echo karma]

It's ue5 hll.

Ww2 will be abandoned. They've clearly wanted to franchise since they changed the logo awhile ago

I hope we get mod support

[thin lotus]

prety sure they outright said it during that time around the logo change

[echo karma]

It'll likely be summer if not Nov. Nothing launching around gta if you got a brain

T17 gotta get on they sht tho. 12 days not a peep is not how you make a community

Baked is the only one doing regular content on yt lol

[stark agate]

👋

[empty steppe]

☕️

[stark agate]

I would probably be sad if I would still play HLL 🫠

Anyways 👏 Vietnam is a mistake

[night lark]

Vietnam isnt a mistake. HLL WW2 has dog turd coding that TY17 can't fix or optimise. HLL V beign built from the ground up will have a lot less jank

ww2 so quite stale as a setting imo anyway

think youre also forgetting, TF17 isnt in this for the joy of it, they do actuallty have to make some money and keeping the IP limited to a game with some pretty fundamental issues isnt going to pay the bills

[empty steppe]

“Built front the ground up” oh just you wait 😅🤣

[night lark]

theyre doing it natively on UE5 so you cant really port anyhting over from HLL WW2

[solar slate]

all opinions discarded

[empty steppe]

I guarantee half the crap and bugs that was in the old game is still gonna be there in some shape or form

[night lark]

based on what reasoning?

[stark agate]

of cause you can lol imagine not being able to migrate projects

[empty steppe]

The fact they are lazy 😂

[night lark]

its not that easy and why would you if you already know HLL WW2 is badly built?

[stark agate]

based on what reasoning?

[solar slate]

at some point the game is easier to build from the bottom than migrate, i don't think hll is using 4.27 either

[night lark]

common sense... that isnt a gotcha

[empty steppe]

L A Z Y

[night lark]

like if youre trying to avoid the fundemental problems HLL WW2 has you built is from the groun dup

[night lark]

easier to build form thje ground up

[stark agate]

So early stages of the dunning kruger effect

[solar slate]

they might copy over some core gunplay stuff and animations to get a leg up

[night lark]

like you cant just copy and paste some assets over from one game to naother, never mind one negine to another

[night lark]

i have an engineering degree and work with a controls systems company the codes PLCs. I myself write control philosophies. We do not have the same base knowledge. I

[solar slate]

No you can do exactly that as long as the engine supports the file format, whatever logic is built for either engine will need modifying

[night lark]

that is assuming what you are copying over is actually well built and worth taking it over.

[stark agate]

I want you to imagine the following:
They bought a IP for way to much
Maintain a game which brings them 0 income because most players already own it
They bring out lazy small changes which they sold as big
And thats all because they worked the past 2+ years on Vietnam

[solar slate]

Sure but the statement was whether you can or not

[empty steppe]

I bet they will

[night lark]

if you ignore a fundamental part of design which is feasibility sure.

[thin lotus]

💭
👨

[stark agate]

bruh

you sound like you know me

[solar slate]

Ain't nothing unfeasible about right clicking on the engine folder browser and clicking import

[night lark]

there is if its a pile spaghetti nonsense

[solar slate]

Ur thinking only code

[night lark]

but sure go ahead, assume TF17 will do the one thing they know will sink their project

[stark agate]

And you know that because t17 said that but is it
OR did they just put 99,9% of the effort in a new game VIETNAM which brings them money

[thin lotus]

if we come across any bugs from the first game, then we'll know that this whole "from the ground up" nonsense is just marketing fluff

[night lark]

that is the litnus test tbh and i have faith in them that they are doing it the right way

[solar slate]

I'll bet HLL's animgraph and core gameplay implementation is competent at least, assets and much of the logic

[stark agate]

Faith? what kind of purple glasses you have

[night lark]

1,772.9 hours in the game and still enjoy it lol

[stark agate]

speak back to me after 4k

[solar slate]

Tbh I stopped playing cs at ~4k hours that's damn good time to be playing

One game

[night lark]

TF17 have had a net positive contribution to the IP imo. BM were never going to take it as far as TF17. they didnt have the cash or ability

[solar slate]

Team fortress 17?

[worthy charm]

Are you like you are because of 4k?

[stark agate]

BM build most of the updates you saw after t17 claimed it was them (without fixing it)

[night lark]

idk why but i instinctively type F after T i guess.

[worthy charm]

BM also ignored half the bugs...

[stark agate]

tbf half of them was no bugs

[night lark]

proves my point, BM make sht tier updates that T17 adopted. so why blame T17?

[solar slate]

It's the TF yearning

[thin lotus]

could BM have managed the revolutionary, and game-changing slow transition of FOGGY weather during a match?
I think not!
Checkmate, t17 haters!

[worthy charm]

I dont want to be mean... im sure they did their best, but it really felt like after they knew they sell, they just didnt care that much anymore.

[stark agate]

Bro they was bought
You are not allowed to put changes out without T17 allowing it
So basically anything after 2021

[cyan saddle]

BM tossed T17 a ball (it was a terrible toss). T17 caught it but still managed to drop it afterwards.

[worthy charm]

The night update and the update with the Fire were both somewhat boring...

[cyan saddle]

somewhat

[worthy charm]

Take the german OP

[thin lotus]

where's my $50M ball to throw

[night lark]

for like the first few T17 updates id tend to agree with this

[cyan saddle]

In hindsight that one was a genius move

I can't imagine a world without that trailer

[solar slate]

BM built the game, T17 fixed the grenade bug and added some gimmicks and several really poor maps, that's my take without knowing any background drama

[cyan saddle]

Recent updates have been great

Not perfect, but better than it has been in years

[night lark]

i really like the maps T17 have added tbh, i think people just have a skill issue

[thin lotus]

mortain is awful
elsen is terrible

[cyan saddle]

Eh I don't like Mortain and I can't say I've played Elsenborn enough to really have an opinion

I like Tobruk though

[solar slate]

T17 doesn't understand lanes, it's all brush

[night lark]

Elsborn is fun. Lots of strong points to fight over and Mortain turns into a proper slog in the middle

[night lark]

lanes are boring tho. and also real life locations dont care about lanes

[cyan saddle]

From what I remember the strongpoints were nice but outside of those it lacked any interesting POIs

[worthy charm]

Its subjective... I dont like mortain either honestly, because its just one big bush of a map. Though its still not a bad map and the newer maps are better, especially tobruk.

[pine ember]

Mortain is alright, Elsenborn is good imo

[solar slate]

And their lighting guy needs to stop making warfare versions witj dramatic dusk lighting

[pine ember]

The Last S Tier map added was Kharkov

[thin lotus]

they have to unmarry themselves from this obsession with trying to match maps to irl.
It just gives them an excuse to further drip feed because they'll just go back and say they're refreshing the map anyway

[night lark]

Kharkov is fun althoug a bit boring imo because it is just lanes and you cant really move about much. I come from Squad where maps are big and mobility is ther key

[thin lotus]

kharkov is easily one of the worst maps

[worthy charm]

First you say something true and then you burn you believability at the stake.

[night lark]

id prefer real locations.

[pine ember]

Kharkov has everything, a very interesting historical background and just Looks pretty and like a warzone at the same time

[solar slate]

You need some structure for the gameplay to bring out some tactics or team coordination, I'll take crumbs

[pine ember]

Wish we got the grey skybox all the time

[cyan saddle]

Some structure is necessary for sure, I do like me a good ol' match of SME

[worthy charm]

That goes into the archives xD

[night lark]

lanes dont bring that out imo. It just truns into a comp game if you play the meta which is borign af

[cyan saddle]

Though I can't say it hasn't gotten stale

[solar slate]

Same

[night lark]

some randomness, actual terrain, no straight lines and strongpoints brign out some tactics.

[pine ember]

I can’t think of a single bad Game I had on Kharkov

[cyan saddle]

Only got 64 updoots on reddit when i posted this 3 years ago ❤️‍🩹

[pine ember]

That’s something

[cyan saddle]

I'm glad you agree 🤝

Right?

[worthy charm]

Thats sad... 🥲

[real hull]

can someone help me my game dosent load and i dont know how to fix it

[night lark]

uninstall and reinstall

[worthy charm]

I would have given you the upvote

[pine ember]

Although I like lumberworks

[thin lotus]

fix all HLL problems with this one easy fix

[cyan saddle]

See if there's something in #1270189497719586908 that might help you. You can ask in #1271718922734796865 as well.

@real hull

[worthy charm]

That edit saved it I guess. 😂

[solar slate]

If the structure is to simple it stagnates, but overall I'll take area control influencing adjacent areas and deliberate choices over brush everywhere

[night lark]

shh, sometimes we hit the enter instead of backspace because we are dumb

[real hull]

Ive already done it

[pine ember]

They could easily make the Kharkov map a summer map in the same location since there were so many battles in the region

[real hull]

👍

[pine ember]

Just something during the Soviet Offensive after Citadel which lead to the capture of Kharkov

[night lark]

that would be Kursk

[pine ember]

I know, but I was Talking about the exact Same area just Summer

Would be Kinda interesting how different it plays

[thin lotus]

no weather changes, just fog

in fact just put fog on all of them

[night lark]

dont know why youd whinge about fog. most attacks did take place at dawn when there is a hue or mist in the air

[thin lotus]

if that's the excuse

[night lark]

just a fact tbh

[thin lotus]

fog's a lazy way to bring change to any and every map

[solar slate]

I think he whines about the low effort of it

[thin lotus]

yup

somebody count how many times they've mentioned it in developement

[night lark]

make a suggestion as to how you can bring variation to maps then?

[pine ember]

Though fog on Hürtgen or Hill is really immersive and fun to play

[molten sail]

it is surprising how many of these players think the current state is perfect and claim the game is a 'masterpiece'

[thin lotus]

variation comes through gameplay, not how big of a radius around the player you mask

[pine ember]

It could be worse but it still has many issues

[night lark]

bit esoteric... do you mean refine factions/loadouts? Have more capture points? like how would you try to change up gameplay

[pine ember]

One of them is called Purple Heart lane

[solar slate]

Me I don't care about fog except they should've made it a more deliberate event, rolls over thick and then it's gone, the way they added (by accident i guess) lightning revealing tanks deep into the fog in phl is really cool as well and enhances the gameplay while also dramatizing it

[molten sail]

it has actually only gotten worse or not changed in some cases

[night lark]

i like PHL. Nice easy three lane map to play once you figure out you can see for miles

[solar slate]

What HLL map design is really lacking is good strong points

Consequence of the grid system mostly but it neednt be as dire

[thin lotus]

they dont give themselves enough for good designed becaused they have to hang on this notion that these maps are based on real life

but then they go back and refresh anyway cause of how garbage a lot of them are

[night lark]

kinda the whole point of HLL is to be in real life locations tho

[pine ember]

British were fixed, that was good

[night lark]

else its just COD

[past vortex]

they cant even sort and center the scoreboard, what are yall talking about :D

[night lark]

even Battlefield manages to get real life places lol

[pine ember]

I only had a few fun games on it so far

[thin lotus]

saying things like this 100% proves you have never played COD. Like, any of them

[night lark]

last one i played was B03. Havign a bunch of cripples wall run was enough for me

[thin lotus]

the only thing keeping HLL from being cod is the maps being somewhat matching reference photoes and areial photos.
lol, lmao even.

[solar slate]

Even if you used real historical maps and only historical buildings or terrain features you could design better strong points if you didn't have to put down a 3x3 grid of them and awkwardly find something

[molten sail]

SME is a good example, all mid points in a moderately urban area

[night lark]

im lookign at aerial photography of SMDM rn and it looks pretty similar

[still cosmos]

Is there any point in using the second loadout for the sniper? I don't see any reason to use the flare

Meant Spotter

[night lark]

is that rage bait?

[solar slate]

It's the strongest loadout in the game, just find the suicide button and keep doing that after using the flare, do it for 40 minutes and you probably win

[molten sail]

in public matches.

[solar slate]

If he's just now discovering flares he's probably not playing clan games

[night lark]

in public - use flare, get kills, die, repeat ad infinitum until win

[thin lotus]

if you or your team need to be constantly shown where the enemies are on the map via a flare...
you might just be bad

[still cosmos]

Okay, I didn't realise they actually had a use which was scanning enemies lmao - Mb

[night lark]

hey guys its a skill issue to see where the enemy is. Guess all the recon guys IRL are hacks

[thin lotus]

a flare isn't going to tell you anything more than what you should already know by that point.
To constantly respawn just to get another flare is actual insanity.

Like, are you constantly opening up the map for red marks? lmao

[night lark]

nonsense tbh. You cannot accurately tell disposition from gunfire alone.

[molten sail]

chum you need to use more buzz words, start incorporating 'teamwork' & 'communication' in your sentences

[solar slate]

That's why spamming it in pubs works if you care about winning, people don't have to think as hard when there's some nice red dots directing them (assuming you don't have 3 arty guns active which if it were the case flare spam can actually debilitate the enemy team ofc)

[thin lotus]

By then, your focus should not be whats showing on your map, or whatever red marks are popping up by some sucker that got convinced that respawning to get another flare up

[night lark]

i use my map basically every minute lol. always checking relative position of me to friendlies and checking bearings of POIs or gunfire

[thin lotus]

correct, I ought to be telling new players to kill the enemy with their communication skills and spotting skills, not their ability to just easily one shot.

[night lark]

you cannot shoot what you cannot see. or do you think pings and markers are skill issues too?

[molten sail]

account every loss to lack of teamwork... lack of comms....

[empty steppe]

Once you play long enough you know where troops move depending on objectives

It’s not too hard to decipher

[night lark]

i have enough time in the game i do know my way around the maps pretty well but i keep hud markers to 5s and turn the team and squad ones down to like 50m

[solar slate]

Assuming you're paying attention to anything that's happening ofc

I've seen some clueless lvl 150s

[night lark]

the node builders who got xp from nodes and not combat effectiveness

[empty steppe]

Best way to play in my opinion, is stay out of the main player pools unless you are capping objectives, you’re kill count will be much higher

People really suck at checking there flanks 😅

[fervent dagger]

Random question I wanted to throw out here because I’m having a debate about it with some mates, would you prefer it if artillery was removed? They certainly aren’t a fan of it.

[night lark]

remove it. 150mm guns should not be this close to a battle

[empty steppe]

If it’s removed, it should be turned into artillery halftracks

[solar slate]

Yes if you're adding mortars or spas it's going to be very healthy for the game to remove them from warfare at least

[empty steppe]

Or even mortar half tracks

[night lark]

i have my FOV on 80, use a rifle, keep my OP away from people and rake in kills. Being caught up in the meat grind is the worst

[molten sail]

remove it the game would simply get better, no negatives ONLY positives.

[fervent dagger]

Main issue they had with it was how it messes with the requirements of recon.

[solar slate]

Have they played recon? That's the bane and chore of recon players, having to camp a hq spawn for half the game, it's a literal maintenance chore

It's annoying for everybody involved, unless you've only done it for a few games and there's some novelty remaining

[thin lotus]

bad design begets bad gameplay loops

[solar slate]

If arty was replaced by mortar teams now recon has an actual game to play if you wanted to keep that sabotage loop going

There's counterplay and player choice

[fervent dagger]

Yeah I agree.

[solar slate]

HQ arty fixed guns is a mind numbing prospect and idk how much you've followed the discourse personally croc, it's always been the top complaint for people, every type of gameplay that's emerged from trying to deal with the arty guns has been so dumb and unfun that comp players agreed to just not engage with it and only keep one gun firing at max

[dense girder]

havent played hll since last year, is it worth hopping on?

[empty steppe]

Fr annoying as crap

[solar slate]

Tell this to your mates

[empty steppe]

Just let us disable the guns

[lilac jewel]

idk

[fervent dagger]

I haven’t been playing that long admittedly but yeah I can totally see that

[dense girder]

ok kuk

[empty steppe]

Like a small brick of TNT, all countries had one, and you can blow up and disable the guns, which can’t be fixed

[past vortex]

nothing changed

[dense girder]

okay thanks mate

[solar slate]

It's better than nothing but I think objectively you'll get the most diverse and player driven gameplay if you went the full mile and had mortar teams with max ~500m range replace the role of arty

Just be sure to keep the mortar as something you cant instantly redeploy with or one whiff of recon and the guys firing just relocate instantly, it has to be either a vehicle or a new type of deployable object

[thin lotus]

the suggestion of making arty emplacements destructible wouldn't really solve the issue in that it'd still be a focus in players actively trying to attack and defend it, and trekking across the map in hopes to eliminate it.
If the arty is still important enough to warrant a team to protect it, all the suggestion is doing is making more players focusing on defending the guns than playing in the active sectors.

Any suggestion regarding the improvement of arty shouldn't continue the trend of players fighting over what's literally in the HQ sections

[solar slate]

Yeah if one rat recon can sneak in and destroy the guns that will at one point or another be very important for the game you're now still needing to place radar OPs down and have some poor sod bored out of his mind

[thin lotus]

HQ arty has got to go completely

I know it won't be removed from hll at this point, but the devs better not do the same stupid garbage in the next game

[solar slate]

It all plays so much better if the arty, whatever its form, needs to be close to the front and players have granular control of its location, any fixed point arty will add cheese strats

[covert elbow]

So… mortars

Make arty a commander ability, introduce mortar squads, bing bang buck

[novel geyser]

^^^

[solar slate]

Yep that's the best way to go about it

[night lark]

if it smobile infantry style mortars then 50mm/2inch ones should be used in game. 3inch/81mm or 120mm are too big and wouldnt really fit

[novel geyser]

and yet T17 will do something weird

[solar slate]

HQ guns in offensive aren't too bad, you could keep those if you're afraid of upsetting some people

[novel geyser]

honestly even in offensive they should go
No reason for attackers to not have arty and one player sat at the back of the map endlessly spamming artillery aint good game design

[covert elbow]

Could just have both with different stats

Like the bigger 3 inch and 81mm’s have a bigger explosion, but a much wider radius on where it can fall

Also less ammo to compensate for the bigger shells

[night lark]

itd look a bit silly having 81/120s. they arent a mobile and wouldnt actually appear on the map becauyse they are usually 2~4 KM away

50mm mortars were usually organic to infantry companies and would be used even within 400m

i think all nations have a 50mm/2inch mortar anyway

[solar slate]

Id just add the short 500m range mortars, they seem to be adding SPAs anyhow which add some variety to that

[covert elbow]

They aren’t SPA’s

[night lark]

what are they actually adding? It is like Priests and Wasps?

[covert elbow]

They showed off a 105mm Sherman as a sneak peak for the “SPA’s”

[covert elbow]

Nope

[solar slate]

Uhh

[covert elbow]

T17 are misusing the term it seems

[night lark]

i thought that was a priest?

[fervent dagger]

Might be a placeholder term?

[night lark]

oh there was a sherman with a turret and a 105. because ofcourse there was

[pine ember]

105 Sherman and Brummbär… It doesn’t seem like they know the correct Definition of SPA since These were more used for direct fire support

[solar slate]

I found that blog post again

Looks like whoever put the blog together used a wrong picture

Or they're totally misunderstanding the concept

But I have some faith and believe it's a clerical error

[pine ember]

I mean looking at the combat distance direct fire support with the possibility of indirect Fire would make more Sense

[solar slate]

Some things you just wanna consider the gameplay

Altho if you're adding a turret with free Aim ppl are still gonna find a way to use it for direct fire

Shouldn't be its main function

At that point it's just another tank

Mortar squads for recon squads to hunt down, SPAs for recon tanks

Seems like fun

[thin lotus]

HLL's pacing doesn't really support this kind of stuff

[obsidian storm]

More urban maps need to be added, fighting on the eastern front is mostly all plains

[pine ember]

That’s how it was in real life

We will get an urban Eastern Front map in the next month, After that it’s time for rural ones

[solar slate]

I'm hoping for good maps don't care. About the type

Id give up half the map pool for a single map where every strong point and sightline has had some thought put into it

[covert elbow]

The 105 isn’t even capable of artillery

[covert elbow]

Don’t

Don’t have faith in this game

[solar slate]

I mean

Fair enough

Just when I was about to hop on hopium again you pulled me back to earth

[pine ember]

Yea, it’s mostly kept realistic

You dont see a lot of Variation in the map Rotation anymore

I often get thrown into Normandy towns which I just can’t stand anymore, if I’m lucky it’s the eastern Front, something Like the British or Foy has fallen completely under the Radar

[obsidian storm]

More rural maps😭 its so repetitive, you get in position and wait for a wave of infantry to cross no man lands and you kill them more urban maps would diversify the combat

[pine ember]

Well, many maps have urban areas, so I dont see your problem here

[obsidian storm]

Majority of servers have a rural map pool

[pine ember]

If you expect that the majority of the maps is urban remember WW2 was a war that wasn’t only fought in urban areas

[pine ember]

Then I don’t know which you are playing

[chilly gorge]

Hello @fluid pawn ! Do you have any idea about when are we going to have a new episode of "Best of the comunity? Thanks mate!

[obsidian storm]

Yes i know its historical just repetitive

[pine ember]

Especially the eastern front, the Only real rural map there is Kursk, Kharkov and Stalingrad Are pretty urban and Smolensk will be the biggest urban map in the game

[pine ember]

That’s how this Game works

[obsidian storm]

Oh smolensk sounds good

Hopefully its good

As i dont know how it looked during ww2

[pine ember]

It will miss Long Range combat, so an important aspect that differs the Game from others

After Smolensk a Forest Eastern Front map could be good, maybe during the battles south of Lake Lagoda

Those Are barely represented in Media or Games Games despite being pretty important

[slate canopy]

You were watching Game of Thrones. Good try tho

[grave jewel]

its a good show you gotta give us that

[slate canopy]

Never watched it.

[grave jewel]

join

[slate canopy]

No. Do not use our discord. Use DMs.

Not my problem. Our discords VC is not for watching shows.

[grave jewel]

can we get a new VC to watch shows?

[past vortex]

lol

[slate canopy]

No.

[grave jewel]

ahw]

i hope both sides of ur pillow stay warm tonight <3

clinton knows whats up

yesterday we met 4 new people we did pretend to speak Chinese though

yeah love the game more then 8000 hours on it just needed a little break with GOT

[slate canopy]

You're free to do that in DM.

[grave jewel]

its actually fun yeah, but sadly some people dont support players getting together

having a big community shouldn't be just about gaming but keeping people together

it could actually be super fun to have like movie nights after a long play session

yeah only 2/2

now you can

wouw

so immature admins

[slate canopy]

Server is for Hell Let Loose. Watch your show else-where.

[grave jewel]

woke up on the wrong side of the bed?

we are legit playing at the same time if you just joined vc you couldve heard

[slate canopy]

If you have any issue with it, please make a #modmail-request

[covert elbow]

Are y’all still continuing this conversation?

[past vortex]

well ofc they wanna see how far they can bait polarbear :D

[covert elbow]

Oh fair

If it was me I would have just muted them already

[grave jewel]

you are free to do so but why ban someone

now im stuck with bad grahpics GOT

[obsidian storm]

Anyone got good settings for fps but visibility when spotting enemies?

[visual niche]

For PC - https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1271341876569575505

The video in there is pretty good for seeing comparisons

[finite berry]

<@&365680483276816385>

[oak current]

Slowmode? Did the discord get botted? 👀

oh wait, its the regular slowmode...just...looked different on discord canary

[silk igloo]

you sound excited. we can make a slowmode happen.

[worthy charm]

Thats an easy "fix" indeed.

:}

[oak current]

but there was already a slowmode 👀

[silk igloo]

a real slowmode, like back in the glory days

what was it, an hour at most?

[finite berry]

A real 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 slowmode

[worthy charm]

Youre giving me ideas next time Elise and Huk need to discuss their definitions again.

[dense girder]

which servers are most active when it comes to voice chat usage?

[crimson root]

is there some new info about Vietnam and digging tunnels ? Or still no undeground boring shooting ?

[worthy charm]

Nope

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-star-wars-gif-10940865116650073754

[real parrot]

Maybe the circle, IDK many more

[tired ingot]

I'd expect in the community servers clan/community members and most veteran players would be on comms. Newer and other players maybe not. If you're looking for people on comms try and join squads with clan members or decent level, switch squad if needed. Sometimes there are matches with more comms in command chat than others.

[fluid pawn]

Tbf @analog apex, that change only came in the last update as part of Patch 17.1 and we haven't been able to push an update till Update 18 which is releasing next. I don't have the full changelog from the dev team yet, however I'm sure the team are continuing to work on bugs and issues such as this one 🙂

[fluid pawn]

I appreciate this Sparta ahah

[fluid pawn]

I use my Discord out of hours as well and do forget to go red when out of office haha

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/floppa-cute-gif-25858838

[fluid pawn]

Hey Teddy! With U18 out very soon I've been hard at work with trailer and social assets so haven't had the chance to organise a stream. That being said, I'm hopefully going to get the next episode in the diary to coincide with U18 😄

[fluid pawn]

Good flopppa

[silk igloo]

very he says. need a new emote for that

[wind shore]

Ben, do you know would be uniforms DLC for SPA class?

[chilly gorge]

Ok cool! I wish you guys all the best for the launch of U18 💪🏻

[wind shore]

U18 it’s Stalingrad right?

Would be trailer for U19?

[glossy echo]

When will the trailer be released

[wind shore]

And small description of the battle

[glossy echo]

And how will Smolensk look like in game

[dim snow]

How do people have the ace of spaces logo in their clan tag on console?

Spades*

[wind shore]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1343025977319751741

It’s would be urban area in the middle, river vertically from HQ to HQ, walls on southern part, with tower, churches, and railway on the left

Railway, middle urban sector, and southern sector

[fluid pawn]

Not sure sorry. SPA's aren't coming until U19.

[pine ember]

Hopefully no DLC at all

[wind shore]

Thank you Ben!

[fluid pawn]

U18 trailer will coincide with the U18 release in October

U19 will be in November again for the release

[wind shore]

I can’t wait for the announce of U19 PTE, do you know when it would be announced dates U19 PTE?

[twin galleon]

omg ben b talking

[fluid pawn]

I do not have that date sorry

[fluid pawn]

Afternoon soldier 🪖🫡

[wind shore]

Thank you! But U18 as you said it’s coming in early October

[pine ember]

It will Happen when it will happen

[wind shore]

So I guess it’s coming into PTE in October

[wind shore]

So why I’m asking, I might be able off some days, so if the date known, plan my plans

[covert elbow]

I’m still very confused on your guys definition of SPA’s considering the tank you showed as a sneak peak on the dev brief wasn’t an SPA or an SPG

[nova pivot]

He answered me 😀

[nova pivot]

I would prefer SPG over actual mobile artillery tbh

[pine ember]

It’s just a Video Game

[covert elbow]

Same, but they also are t artillery guns

[nova pivot]

If they are going to remove the artillery I hope we get mortars

[nova pivot]

New rebrand?

[wind shore]

I know but I won’t miss U19, other updates maybe

[pine ember]

What?

[nova pivot]

I miss the old panzergrenadier

[wind shore]

But not U19, SPA, Smolensk

[twin galleon]

@fluid pawn for HLL:V will we be able to opt out of fighting in the war and instead follow a fulfilling career in video game community management? and if so, when can we expect this on PTE?

[pine ember]

Im the same as him

[nova pivot]

No

You are totenvogel

[wind shore]

He is сыч 🦉

[pine ember]

I am still a Panzergrenadier

[wind shore]

Сыч - means homeless in Russian and totenvogel

[pine ember]

I prefer my german name

[twin galleon]

deadbirb :(

[wind shore]

I thought you are homeless

[covert elbow]

What if you had an American name instead

Join the winning side for once

[wind shore]

Winning side was USSR, he could join them also

[pine ember]

I have a pretty nice home

[wind shore]

👍🏻

[pine ember]

I will Never join the Russians or Americans (rather the americans though)

I only choose Europe and Germany

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/crispy-rule14-rule14-no-politics-no-religion-gif-27090942

-# Its not rule 14 but you know what I mean