#mess-hall

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wind shore
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They followed suggestion after announcement

azure heath
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@fluid pawn Why are you AI again?

fluid pawn
azure heath
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Just become superhuman and that’ll help a lot

wind shore
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Would be some news in next weeks, before the PTE will launch’s, devs briefs?

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Cause early October comes Stalingrad U18, would be something before it?

azure heath
pine ember
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When new North africa map?

fluid pawn
wind shore
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Thanks Ben! So no news before it

cyan saddle
nova pivot
fluid pawn
cyan saddle
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Psssh who told you

worthy charm
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Abu feeding the AI

nova pivot
wind shore
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Why Ben is associated with AI

worthy charm
fluid pawn
worthy charm
nova pivot
nova pivot
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Now give us the2026 roadmap

fluid pawn
wind shore
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Like ChatGPT or Open AI

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Eastern front is not about Stalingrad only

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It’s about Smolensk also and best urban map

pine ember
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And countless other battles

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Like this

wind shore
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I meant Smolensk would be Eastern Carentan

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So some people were crying “wow it’s about open fields in Kursk”

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And haven’t known anything except Stalingrad

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But Smolensk would be an urban city

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With destroyed buildings, with not destroyed buildings, with river, with wall, with churches, with tower

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With everything

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Wide,narrow streets,rural streets, urban streets

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Diversity of the map

pine ember
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There Are many more battles except Smolensk and Stalingrad

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I think it will be completely different to Carentan

silent oriole
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when does the update come out? XD

winter rover
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Yup

nova pivot
silent oriole
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😭

covert elbow
nova pivot
nova pivot
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He is trolling

winter rover
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Saw that I had HLL was installed which reminded me that this game even existed

nova pivot
winter rover
nova pivot
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😘

winter rover
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Well, I'm responding to robo

fluid pawn
nova pivot
winter rover
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idk man

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You keep responding to me

nova pivot
covert elbow
nova pivot
winter rover
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Still talking about it

nova pivot
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😀

covert elbow
winter rover
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I was too occupied with a ww2 game that's actually realistic unlike HLL 🤣

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And for the first time im not excited for the next map

pine ember
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Haha funny wow

winter rover
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I sighed when I saw Smolensk 😂

pine ember
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Same

winter rover
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Why?

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Don't you want an eastern front map?

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all you ever asked for was an eastern front map

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Now that we're getting one, you're disappointed 🤔

pine ember
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Another one would have been better…

winter rover
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only to be forgotten in a month

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and back to play carentan or elise

nova pivot
pine ember
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I can’t See These two anymore

finite berry
winter rover
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You will see them whether you like it or not 👀

nova pivot
finite berry
pine ember
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What?

winter rover
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elise

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when will s44 announce something

finite berry
finite berry
winter rover
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Aren't you a mod?

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And asking because maybe i missed something

finite berry
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And even if I was, that doesn't mean I know more than any other player

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I'm a server hoster, """"clan"""" leader, playtester and Community QA (which basically is the inner circle of playtesters, so to say).

winter rover
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any news though

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or modding news

finite berry
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Third Pacific map still unknown.

winter rover
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oh great

finite berry
winter rover
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that's all we need, another pacific map

finite berry
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🤷‍♂️ we shall see

pine ember
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Chapter Red will also get News soon

winter rover
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aren't they releasing one more then finishing development?

finite berry
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Big reveal on 28th of September

winter rover
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great

finite berry
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16:00 European time

winter rover
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a mod that no one plays

finite berry
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Seeding wars

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The mod is great, everyone agrees on that

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But it's easier to fill your servers by playing vanilla

winter rover
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Every time I boot up the game, it's only operation market garden maps that are populated with like 10+ people in queue

finite berry
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Yep, very unfortunate

winter rover
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game gonna die

finite berry
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nah

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We went successfully through worse times

winter rover
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well die as in the devs are going to ditch the game

finite berry
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You can't know that for sure. Sure, can happen, doesn't have to.

winter rover
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ofc there will be that dedicated playerbase

winter rover
finite berry
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So?

winter rover
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concerning asf

finite berry
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The sales are important to OWI, the player count is secondary.

winter rover
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I doubt that's doing any good for them

finite berry
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You can't know that

winter rover
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I think the devs will leave the game within the next 6 months

finite berry
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You can engage in pointless dooming and speculation

winter rover
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I hope im wrong though

finite berry
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I prefer to cling to hopium and optimism

finite berry
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I'm hoping it won't

thin lotus
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“Dedicated playerbase” is code for a dead/dying game

winter rover
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if it has a dedicated playerbase, doesn't mean it's dead

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Look at Red orchestra 2 for ex

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or the orig insurgency

pine ember
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That Game is also dead

finite berry
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If you can hop on and find a populated server, it's not dead.

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Beyond the Wire is.

winter rover
thin lotus
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If you have to say a game has a “dedicated playerbase”, there’s a very good chance it’s low populated, and one where it can’t afford much more loss before it’s on its last legs

winter rover
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Always has a full server when i log on

pine ember
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I dont plan on getting IL2

winter rover
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yeah don't because you're gonna call it dead too 🤣

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Welcome to the WW1/WW2 flight sim genre

thin lotus
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That’s been dead for a while. It has a playerbase who still plays, but it can’t afford much more loss before it loses whatever juice it has left

winter rover
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BTW is dead

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You'll be lucky to see another person playing on that game

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Verdun, Ro2, etc are not dead

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Tanneneburg is hanging by the thread though

finite berry
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BTW still has players, but they have to manually organise to play a few matches every Saturday evening

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And that's a line where I'd say "dead".

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Because you can't just hop on anymore and play

thin lotus
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Specifically having to organize events just to get a match going is most certainly considered dead.
Same with “peak hours”. It’s all the same fate.

finite berry
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Nah, there is a difference

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Peak hours still means that you can just join and play when you feel like it; peak hours just signal when most players are on

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HLL also has peak hours

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Every game has

thin lotus
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Sure but actual non dead games don’t ever need to consider that

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Hll is constantly operating at a high percentage loss of players every month. It gets put on sale frequently in attempts to offset it.

winter rover
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For a realistic/hardcore WW1/WW2 fps/flight sim, being able to consistently get at least one full server is far from being dead

wind shore
winter rover
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these are niche genres

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for me, only BTW is dead

thin lotus
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Okay sure but saying that is coping with the fact that any further loss means your dealing with not even being able to consistently fill servers

winter rover
thin lotus
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That’s literal cope, but okay!

winter rover
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mate, it’s not cope, it’s just how niche sims have always worked

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IL2 1946 for ex, has had small but consistent servers for nearly 20 years. These communities don’t need massive player counts to stay alive

thin lotus
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One guy running around by himself on a game,
“Still not dead☝️🤓”

wind shore
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IL2

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What’s about S44, how many servers are on rn

winter rover
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You're acting like their playercount is like BTWs

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btw was doomed from the beginning, a hardcore WW1 fps wouldn't survive

wind shore
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Give me my PPSH and my T-34 tank!!

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And I’ll be Commander of tank

thick fox
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ok what happend to meme page?

past vortex
thick fox
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why can i find it ...........

worthy charm
wind shore
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@Honeypot

toxic snow
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For Vietnam, let's say someone wants to practice Huey piloting today, do we know how realistic the flight model will be? I'm looking at DCS with the Huey dlc, but not sure if that is overkill and the HLLV model will be more arcade on the spectrum.

past vortex
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did anyone say you can actually pilot?

toxic snow
winter rover
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Or Rising Storm 2

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DCS is a bit of an overkill

toxic snow
thin lotus
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Helis will handle like in the game Army Men: Air Combat

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Bet on it

novel geyser
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not sure tank controls really compare to helicopters

toxic snow
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I meant complexity, not 1:1

novel geyser
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RS2 choppers probably best for that

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HLL tanks arent super complex really just manual gear shifting
RS2 choppers are physics based and very nice when you get the hang of them

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probably about how complex they'd be in HLL

winter rover
lucid rapids
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idk, manual shifting is pretty tough

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imagine having a clutch

wind shore
weak dagger
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RIP Kirk

pine ember
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Why did a church die??

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How is that Even possible?

wind shore
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Smolensk 🔜

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New map Smolensk it’s Smolensk I can say it rn

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Definitely it’s confirmed

pine ember
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We all know it by now

wind shore
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Yes but now it’s confirmed

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It’s not Belgorod, it’s not Kiev

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It’s not Kharkov or Kursk ( but I don’t know was it the battle itself )

pine ember
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No, it wasn’t

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It isn’t really important where the map is set, as Long as it is a good map in the Game and there was a Battle in real life too Everything is fine

wind shore
# weak dagger RIP Kirk

Rest in Peace, Charlie Kirk! 🕯️ He was Christian. So, of course it’s lose, he was husband and father, just a guy

modest agate
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Can anyone help with a discord server need bots permissions what not $$

gentle lintel
wind shore
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Maybe MEE6 bot

wind shore
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Hell let Loose needs to get upgraded on this server

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Discord

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For quick viability add role @admins to faster tag moderators

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When you find @ moderator it’s a lot of different nicknames except moderator and you click on random persons

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@gentle lintel Can you please add some emojis on Smolensk thread?

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Like this?

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Add Jericho emotion to Smolensk thread

glacial haven
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Right when I log in I am blessed with such a wonderful sight

oak current
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thats why the role is at the top

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look, one of them is typing

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shakes food come on, come on boy

worthy charm
wind shore
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No, when sometimes scammers appear. When you press @moderator, when you typing it’s a lot of random people

worthy charm
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-# daily bad joke check

oak current
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awww there there bunhug

wind shore
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Always when I try to ping them, I’m pinging random guys before I get the right option

oak current
azure heath
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@wind shore I got u!

worthy charm
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Are we pinging people again?

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@nova pivot How are you?

azure heath
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That’s illegal!

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A moderator should revoke all rights to become one.

worthy charm
nova pivot
worthy charm
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Can I evolve further?

nova pivot
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My birthday is in 3 minutes 😀

worthy charm
azure heath
wind shore
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Herr can you put emoji please in Smolensk thread

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Second one

worthy charm
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I could...

azure heath
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Check mark!✅

worthy charm
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but I also couldnt

wind shore
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Please put 1

worthy charm
wind shore
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Let’s earn more emotes there

azure heath
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Heart.

cyan saddle
wind shore
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If sides, Soviet Union and Axis it should be 2

nova pivot
azure heath
wind shore
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If heart and news of news 1

azure heath
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valid

wind shore
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Hooray!

cyan saddle
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happy birthday @nova pivot

worthy charm
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😂

wind shore
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Happy Birthday!

worthy charm
azure heath
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happy birthday

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u deserve a cookie

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so go buy yourself one

cyan saddle
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shops are all closed i bet

nova pivot
nova pivot
nova pivot
wind shore
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Floppik how old are you

finite berry
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Happy Birthday! ❤️

wind shore
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Floppik

nova pivot
nova pivot
wind shore
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Floppick

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Imagine somebody would make a game after 80+ years about this mess hall about us

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Floppiks!

wind shore
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I thought this, that you are 102 years old man

wind shore
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Smolensk 🔜

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Nov

thin lotus
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Update 16 - Nov 2024

Update 17 - April 2025

Update 18 - October 2025

Update 19 - November 2025

azure heath
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18 and 19 are like “bam! bam!”

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One right after the other

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Expect to be playing USSR a LOT for a few months.

thin lotus
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"we had three updates this year"
rather than just two
Amazing

azure heath
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50% increase

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So good

karmic crescent
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want better uniforms tho

thin lotus
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they should call the hotfix Update 20 so then they could say they had FOUR updates in 2025

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games an absolute meme

azure heath
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100% increase! OMG

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We need actual infantry content alongside the maps

thin lotus
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what about weather that slowly drifts into being slightly foggy? over and over again?

azure heath
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We honestly just need another good gamemode

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but no “capture points”

river rover
azure heath
past vortex
wheat crag
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Does using a flamethrower on a tank do anything?

finite berry
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Don't think so

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but not sure

thin lotus
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yeah, it draws attention from anyone nearby and instantly gets you killed

worthy charm
gentle lintel
tropic gale
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Flamethrower is awesome close range to squads, their OP’s and garrisons

novel geyser
thin lotus
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Warfare was a mistake.
Full effort should've gone into making Attack & Defend the only gamemode, and making it good

desert owl
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Warfare is where everyone can attack on large maps?

slate canopy
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Well, you're fighting over 2 points, but yes, you can fight anywhere in the map.

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(You defend one point, while attacking another, all other points are locked from capture - besides the beginning where you fight for a mid point in a neutral zone)

pearl pond
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Any idea if the mobile artillery is going to render the regular artillery pointless?

analog apex
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we are yet to see...

wind shore
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Hello @nova pivot Floppik!

nova pivot
pine ember
stoic garnet
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Easiest thing they could do to breathe new life into the game would be to periodically add new class loadouts

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Plenty of games have proven that you can do side grades well

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And it would be limited to new weapon models and stats in terms of dev work

worthy charm
wind shore
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🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

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FRANCE = ❤️

pine ember
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😶

wind shore
wind shore
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We getting Smolensk

pine ember
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Are we this far now that You have to pull out 5 year old messages?

wind shore
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yes, maybe he wants this map

pine ember
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This is so unnecessary

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Spend some time outside the Game please

wind shore
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we getting Smolensk map already

pine ember
dense jewel
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The Most LETHAL Bunkers on Omaha Beach - German Positions Explored
https://youtu.be/yA9Std8ks3U

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On D-Day, WN62 above Colleville-sur-Mer overlooked the Easy Red and Fox Green sectors; this episode walks its casemates and MG positions to show how a mixed garrison—primarily 3./Grenadier-Regiment 726 (716. Infanterie-Division) with attached observers from the 352. Infanterie...

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mint ocean
mint ocean
wind shore
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Wake up! It’s coming in November

wind shore
mint ocean
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the game is so different from what it was in 2020

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for the worse in many many aspects

wind shore
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And you also should be informed. Smolensk is coming in November!

pine ember
crude hamlet
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pine ember
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Since 2020 a lot has changed but for the worse

crude hamlet
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mint ocean
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BM's Max probably got a concussion and forgot some points of the game were historical accuracy and asymmetric aspects

wind shore
crude hamlet
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mint ocean
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even before T17 got this it became a strange game

novel geyser
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I honestly dont see much of a difference between this game now and when I first started playing in late early access

mint ocean
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one big bag aspect was that basically anytime anything new was actually added it was horribly historically inaccurate

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it used to be in a fairly good state of accuracy for everything it had

pine ember
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Yea, back in 2020 it was way better

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2021 was also good

crude hamlet
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mint ocean
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have you noticed that the Kar98k's bolt in third person has been clipping halfway into the receiver for the past three-four years or so, and nobody fixes it

crude hamlet
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mint ocean
pine ember
crude hamlet
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pine ember
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If the eastern front would be done properly it would be as good as the classic HLL

crude hamlet
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mint ocean
pine ember
crude hamlet
pine ember
mint ocean
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it's a little sad some cosmetics are locked to singular maps though because of their "unit name" or something when the clothes simply weren't used by some single unit, and instead would reasonably be seen on a variety of maps

novel geyser
crude hamlet
novel geyser
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like the bugs and unpolished nature of the weapons themselves are not relevant since the weapons were mostly completely wrong

crude hamlet
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pine ember
mint ocean
crude hamlet
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mint ocean
novel geyser
mint ocean
crude hamlet
mint ocean
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after Carentan they started giving half the loadouts SMGs and automatic rifles

pine ember
crude hamlet
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pine ember
mint ocean
crude hamlet
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novel geyser
mint ocean
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there's still plenty gameplay variety in say a german squad of an MP, MG, semiauto rifle and rest bolt actions

novel geyser
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I doubt a corpo guy is gonna say "no make sure you have the p14, jungle carbine and lanchester"

pine ember
mint ocean
crude hamlet
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novel geyser
mint ocean
# pine ember Sadly we never got it

my preference would be like how it is in forgotten hope 2. Every map has a roster of generally unique loadouts for each class. So say on Omaha the german autorifle guy doesn't get an STG but only an MP and supports get G41 at most. And then on Hurtgen with troops which historically had lots of firepower you'd maybe even have two STGs and semi-autos in the loadouts of a squad, etc

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mint ocean
novel geyser
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somewhat makes sense

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those weapons tho, I dont know if BM can have an excuse for those

mint ocean
mint ocean
wind shore
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Yes Smolensk is on the way, you know about it, why do you asking if it’s Smolensk))

mint ocean
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https://i.redd.it/orjg3tj98b3b1.jpg it's just this roster that's existed on the internet (from a model kit thing). Half of them weren't used by the brits in ww2 significantly and it's exactly the HLL weapons. So..

pine ember
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The 1941 Version…

novel geyser
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I assumed BM just didnt do their research, and again not entirely sure how much influence a corp exec has on the specific content like weapon roster

crude hamlet
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novel geyser
analog apex
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Wow, look who's back 😮

azure plume
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if I bring a group of friends to play with, is there a way for us to always play on the same side? or server balance always kick in?

crude hamlet
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novel geyser
crude hamlet
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azure plume
novel geyser
azure plume
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k thanks

analog apex
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admins can switch people's teams at will using the external rcon/c-rcon admin tools

pine ember
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Am I allowed to sing songs in here?

past vortex
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depends

pine ember
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We know which one will be sang

finite berry
pine ember
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EEEEEEEEERIKA!

past vortex
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you could ask willes to make a server event so we can all hop into vc

crude hamlet
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novel geyser
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might just not be many publicly available ones

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there used to be one but it was from the chrimea war or something so they replaced it

wind shore
wind shore
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It has no radio message cause it’s Morse code

novel geyser
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yeah he is asking why is it morse code instead of a voice message like the other factions

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which also I now have to mention how bad the british spawn radio sound is

wind shore
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It is better sounds and more accurate maybe

novel geyser
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yeah just a quick look and there really isnt any russian radio chatter audio from that time. I think even the US one might actually be korea or vietnam
German one is a flak crew I believe and the british one is some T17 intern probably lol

past vortex
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its a night fighter crew

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with the controller answering in morse

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its pretty cringe since the luftwaffe codewords are kinda baby talk

covert elbow
novel geyser
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really would rather it be something else or alteast have a bit more effort put into it

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also not many radio chatters from the british other than bomber crews

wind shore
covert elbow
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I’d really like it if we got like 10 minutes of custom voice lines that play randomly intersected with conversations

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Cause the original conversations are cool but after hearing the same voicelines over and over it gets tedious

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Voicelines in general man, we need them

cosmic pilot
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@fluid pawn what are the dimensions of the Smolensk map.
How can it be the largest urban map in hll without also being the largest map in hll.

finite berry
covert elbow
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Yes

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The game would be so much better with voicelines

cosmic pilot
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Console player

novel geyser
azure heath
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No. It’s definitely not

novel geyser
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stalingrad is technically urban but its still open

azure heath
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The south side is rural and the north is trains

novel geyser
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hmm

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is there a tac map

cosmic pilot
finite berry
azure heath
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I think it’s more like the highest building density to map size proportion. So it’s proportionally the biggest urban map.

novel geyser
oak current
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Über linke Flanke vorrückeeeen

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all the Day of Defeat Memories trippy

finite berry
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BEIM TELEFONMAST

covert elbow
cosmic pilot
finite berry
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TELEFON TELEFON TELEFON TELEFON

silk igloo
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Enemy boat spotted

covert elbow
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The current “voicelines” are a pretty low bar though

oak current
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I dont remember Telefon 😄

worthy charm
covert elbow
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Funny how BM just asked people to submit phone microphone quality noises and then never replaced them

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Like the death groans in this game are atrocious

silk igloo
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oh, we can spam that in HLLV. enemyboatspottedenemyboatspotted

finite berry
novel geyser
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its cod 2

finite berry
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Check

novel geyser
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lines were reused in waw but I dont think the telephonemast one shows up, if it does not as much as in cod 2 lol

finite berry
azure heath
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“enemy boat spotted in river” however

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or “helicopter spotted above us”

novel geyser
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wont be anything like the taunts in RS2
"Hey charlie- eat sh- the higher hi- hey charlie you can call me- hey charles how- eat- hey charlie"

wind shore
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Can anyone give one brief tip on how to spot almost any enemy ?

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In COD 2 there are Spanish troops

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Find them super hard to spot in hurtgen forest

novel geyser
novel geyser
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also a lot of large germans

wind shore
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they weren't given Spanish voicelines

novel geyser
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yep

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I dont know if they show up in stalingrad but a huge number of them are in all the normandy levels, not sure if they do belong in any of them but definitely not all of them

azure heath
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get used to the assets and go from there

wind shore
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Any good video settings for ps5? Higher brightness or anything?

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Everything appears to be a bit fuzzy and blurry out in the distance or is that my bad eyesight? Lol

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I see myself dying very easily.in hurtgen forest, never seemed to be good at forest levels

desert owl
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Germans hold guns down, Americans at chest

novel geyser
# desert owl Germans hold guns down, Americans at chest

not always just with specific guns mainly the kar98k and g43, brits do it with the lee enfield too.
team recognition isnt going to be a problem unless you turn the friendly blip render distance down or enable occlusion for it

covert elbow
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Which you should do

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Immersion is fun

night lark
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I have the friendly blip turned down to like 50m and the squad one on 100m.

past vortex
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but why

novel geyser
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friendly fire is unfortunately not forgiving enough to grant me turning markers down too much

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I have the occlusion on tho that should be on by default if its not

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I never understood why BM left those friendly blips so intrusive

past vortex
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it also leaves you guessing when you could just be sure

novel geyser
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I've had many times where I've mistaken enemies as friendlies because of the blips being positioned in a very unfortunate manner, or straight up been unable to see who shot me because of them

past vortex
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not having it is a much bigger problem

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eighter you run blind or look at the map constantly

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you also want to position yourself in relation to your teammates after all

novel geyser
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I wouldnt turn them off completely
but using occlusion I still dont TK much, very rare case of it not showing in time or being blocked by something silly

novel geyser
past vortex
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aka ""no need to check that hedge when i just saw 2 blueberries go that way"

novel geyser
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and honestly its just ugly being able to see your entire teams blips 500m away through the map

past vortex
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you really miss out

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also blueberries fading -> enemy detected

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ofc you could argue if it should be that way, but since its available you just nerf yourself

novel geyser
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I dont think its that strong of an advantage

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its not like Im not seeing any friendly blips

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they're just not half as intrusive as they usually are

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if an enemy is about and killing friendlies im going to know because Ill hear the shots and still will see friendlies going down

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I dont need to know friendlies 500m away are getting killed really

past vortex
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tells me to reconsider my approach

novel geyser
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again I still see friendlies going down, its just if there are walls and stuff in the way. I can still hear gunshots and use general game sense without relying on an over intrusive hud

grand wigeon
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G

placid aspen
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i saw someone with italian camo pants??

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anyone know what that is ive Never seen it before

covert elbow
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They got exclusive cosmetics like those pants

placid aspen
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oh damn

nova pivot
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The kick starters are really cool

placid aspen
nova pivot
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Maybe someone gave him the code.

placid aspen
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ohh

river rover
cosmic pilot
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AI nothing burgers

analog apex
analog apex
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When clueless authors write articles about topics they have no idea about... 🥶

oak current
pine breach
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I should become an author that writes about games.

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I have a self-destructive addiction to cocaine and fat women.

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Hell Let Loose hasn't fixed this issue.

gentle lintel
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Damn herb showed up

gentle lintel
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then he left

worthy charm
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never to be seen again

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-# He is a magic goose

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Anyway those articles are pretty weird. How they are written it could be something kedo made up.

olive fern
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found some wonky bricks in the game which i believe to be a game model wrongly placed, either that or a very odd stylistic choice

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where do i send the photo of this?

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only semi-related channel i see is the suggestion one

worthy charm
olive fern
cedar ore
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What happened to that gamemode where we placed bombs on objectives, haven’t heard much about that recently

oak current
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Was in the PTE to see how people like the concepts of both objective-explosion-mode and the concept of objective-based goals.

analog apex
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Yeah, the concept is good, but not as a stand-alone gamemode. Just implement it into the OFFENSIVE and/or add the TNT into some new loadout(s), maybe even for the recon squad as a tool to disable the artillery (if the arty guns were to stay... which I hope they won't), destroy AT guns and other non-big stuff.

worthy charm
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The concept is amazing and im my opinion way better that any of the gamemodes we got currently.

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Except maybe warfare because of flanking shenanigans

untold solstice
novel geyser
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Its probably a hot take but I dont think offensive should use the entire map like it does now

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it should just be sorta scaled down and more condensed
Hopefully we can get a mode like that if they manage to get rid of the grid system

slate canopy
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Why not use the whole map?

novel geyser
# slate canopy Why not use the whole map?

Offensive has a pacing issue mostly from the round timer but part of that aswell is the map size, the game has to accommodate the attacking team traveling the width of the map and similar to warfare huge portions of the map is just unused and empty.

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I think offensive particularly or any future attack/defend styled mode the action should be condensed into a more focused area, enough room for 50v50 and flanking but not to the point its so large you get tons of unused space

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the thought particularly comes from the beach landing maps, it always take me out of the moment when one guy can just flank the entire span of the beach where nothing is happening. Breaks the illusion of it actually being dday landings

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it already can get very cramped but thats because there is only one point to cap, and when there were two points they were too far apart to really work well which is why it was reduced to one

slate canopy
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I don't feel it's 'necessary' to have the 'illusion of actual D-Day landings', but that's my opinion. 🤷‍♀️

novel geyser
# slate canopy One of the reason I like the whole map is variety, and yes, you can have those w...

variety definitely should come into it, Im sure they could have some randomised presets it picks on so its not always the same
I scribbled this example a while back, but it could just be an alternative mode, garrisons are all pre-placed and change with point captures, only player deployable spawns are OPs
And yeah its nice having big maps but offensive particularly can drag for waaay too long since the round timer resets with every point capture
ideally it would just change to add 15 minutes instead of a reset

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it would just be slightly smaller slivers of maps, ideally matches still lasting around an hour and a half at maximum, offensive at max can be like 2 hours and 30 minutes I think which is just too long.

slate canopy
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Unlikely it usually ever goes to 2.5 hours.

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that means you're capturing each point in the last minute of the point.

novel geyser
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yeah unlikely but it can still drag

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too many matches I've had holding to the last few minutes and then losing the point

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holding for 30 minutes to then lose the point then need to defend again for 30 minutes is not fun

slate canopy
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It can be rough, it has happened. Just interesting to see your perspective. 🙂 Thanks for explaining.

novel geyser
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Theoretical way a match could play out in such a mode
round starts allies come in on the boats and must take one of two points on the beach, when one is captured the next point close to that opens up and you can inact a sort of encirclement to secure the sector. Points could maybe be captured back to keep a sort of back and forth and so defenders cant always just do encirclements the whole time

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Something like this could be done on a larger scale even and make some good use out of transport vehicles

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theres just a lot of potential if they can unrestrict where points have to be placed in a map really and Im all for more unique modes

rain lark
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The deployment stuck 0 bug needs to be fixed asap

cyan saddle
cosmic pilot
novel geyser
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no because that was actually terrible

cosmic pilot
thin lotus
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2 active points per row on Offensive was terrible

cosmic pilot
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I didn't ask you

wind shore
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Anyone have an xp farm server open?

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On an offensive mode or do those even exist?

dire pollen
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hey everyone

dire pollen
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dude , my mouse goes so slow

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it has a wait to it

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and i don't like it
so how do i fix that?

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or do i just live with it?

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i can't aim with a slow mouse

past vortex
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thats not normal, check your sensitivity

dire pollen
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oh ok

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what should i turn it to?

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idk what to do about it

gentle lintel
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Get out of the toaster

real parrot
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When are we invading France

dire pollen
cosmic pilot
dire pollen
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i need help

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i won't be able to play the game efficiently if i have 1 second mouse lag

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how do i fix it

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and why is it so uncommon

worthy charm
wind shore
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😃

pine ember
empty steppe
pine ember
real parrot
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I'd like to but I'm currently busy rn defending Ukraine from German soldiers

azure heath
wind shore
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How much MB can I upload with nitro?

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In suggestions, need to pull in video

slate canopy
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🤷‍♀️ Look at what it says in the shop.

nova pivot
dire pollen
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i seriously need help yall my mouse has 1 sec lag

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i can't aim to anything

slate canopy
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Sounds like a mechanical issue?

dire pollen
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it ain't tho

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i get good mouse performance everywhere but HLL

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probably its just my pc struggling

slate canopy
past vortex
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those requirements are a lie tho

brittle inlet
silk igloo
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i've been telling greg and ben for years that the "Storage: 30 GB available space" is outdated

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must be a broken telephone thing. (is that what the game is called in english?)

visual niche
azure heath
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also <@&365680483276816385>

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thx

slate canopy
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I was waiting a moment to see if 🍯 was gonna get it, but someone else got it.

azure heath
slate canopy
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you shouldn't lol

azure heath
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I’ve already done it twice; you know what they say, third time’s the charm

cosmic pilot
past vortex
cosmic pilot
silk igloo
ornate shard
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whats up gents

covert elbow
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The sky

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Hbu?

arctic rampart
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the update will introduce brand new armoured vehicles: Self-Propelled Artillery (SPAs). We will be sharing more about their role in the battlefield in a future Dev Brief, so make sure to follow our socials to stay up to date.

Finally time to return to HLL?

wind shore
wind shore
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Smolensk - the largerst urban map ever in Hell let Loose

arctic rampart
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Whilst it sounds cool, HLL is nutorious for having dogwater performance on the urban-ish maps

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So we'll see how that part goes. But besides that, will have to play a round or two. Just hopefully the vehicle physics won't make that map terrible to play in

covert elbow
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The 105m Sherman, the teaser shown in the dev brief, isn’t an SPA

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Genuinely don’t understand what their adding anymore

arctic rampart
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Meh who cares. At least it'll be something new and maybe finally the removal of base arty

covert elbow
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The tank they showed off doesn’t have the capabilities of an artillery gun. It’s just a Sherman with a upscaled gun

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So it’s not even touching artillery. It’s just a tank with a bigger gun

pine ember
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Wasn’t the 105 used for indirect fire too?

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And Even if that’s not possible, maybe they are going in a direction with direct fire support

worthy charm
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Dont forget the tank rework

real parrot
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Can't wait to have SPA shells getting blocked by 2cm wide bush

pine ember
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I hope these vehicles will be used and not just an almost useless Addition like the jeeps

worthy charm
molten sail
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in reality jeeps and halftracks are never used

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they need to lower the fuel cost of both, make them both default spawns and remove the garrison function from the halftrack

pine ember
mellow knoll
pine ember
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Tank and artillery rework might be the most important aspect in their respective updates

worthy charm
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-# im not sure, please dont tell ben

nova pivot
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The spg comes with smolesnks update

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And the tank rework with stalingrad

worthy charm
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Obviously did I knew that.

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It was all a test

nova pivot
finite berry
pine ember
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"Smolensk" map will be Berlin and this will be the final update for HLL WW2

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That would be one of a plot twist

novel geyser
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defintely not

bitter girder
novel geyser
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it wont be

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there is no reason for them to have us on lol

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they've said its an eastern front map set in 1943

finite berry
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Alternate history battle in Berlin 1943

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German civil war

past vortex
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narvik would be cool

pine ember
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It won’t be the last Update for HLL for sure

past vortex
pine ember
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But I dont think we will get that much new content either

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I’d assume the Support for HLL will be discontinued in two to three years

past vortex
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also depends on hhlv flopping or not

pine ember
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Exactly

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By 2027 they will see if HLL Vietnam is hyped and loved

past vortex
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if hllv is all cream and peaches hll will die fast

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with only free players left

pine ember
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And if that is the case and Most people moved to Vietnam they will then shut the. Support for HLL WW2 down

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I won’t Play Vietnam

past vortex
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yea but hll would still become unplayable if almost all good players leave

winter rover
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They could only add so much after release

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Eventually people will get tired of the same factions/weapons and environment

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My opinion

past vortex
winter rover
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But HLL isn't that bad

past vortex
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technically its among the worst

winter rover
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In what sense

past vortex
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efficency, server handling, hit reg etc

pine ember
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The Code is just a mess

past vortex
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yea

winter rover
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It's not bad imo

pine ember
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We as Players hardly notice that, but the devs themselves stated that

winter rover
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Plus who knows how HLLV will look like

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Could end up being worse

past vortex
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ofc this could all go many ways, just speculation

winter rover
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Like, we've seen the devs' questionable changes and additions to the game

past vortex
wind shore
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Red Bor map, Leningrad could fits well as rural maps

past vortex
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ofc its not bad, the game idea makes it great when played with mic.... but technically

past vortex
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i want berittene gebirgsmarine zu fuß

wind shore
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We getting Smolensk

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I hope it would be often in rotations

winter rover
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but yeah I'm definitely not getting vietnam

past vortex
wind shore
pine ember
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Lake Lagoda would be the best rural map for a Leningrad area setting

wind shore
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It’s urban map with new gameplay experience

pine ember
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Or Demyansk

winter rover
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im just glad they're not ditching HLL

wind shore
pine ember
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Why though??

winter rover
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yeah battles people haven't heard of, smart

wind shore
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Wdym Lake Ladoga? It’s just frozen like

pine ember
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Around the lake...

wind shore
pine ember
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Most people just want Krasyn Bor because then they would get their Spanish uniform. Great idea, lets develop a map so we can add an uniform that would else be entirely inaccurate

wind shore
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Krasny Bor could be cool map - winter village and pine forest

pine ember
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Krasyn Bor is just another village map, we have many of those

wind shore
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Deliver Spanish 🇪🇸

pine ember
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Real rural should only feature a few houses

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Demyansk, Lagoda, maybe Mga

winter rover
pine ember
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Just forests, swamps,...

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Krasny Bor was just a minor skirmish

wind shore
pine ember
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It isnt a big, significant or well known battle

winter rover
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I wouldn't be surprised if juno beach map

pine ember
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We have enough Normandy maps

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For the British North Africa or Market Garden would be cooler

winter rover
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Better than adding battles most haven't heard about

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But yeah market garden would be a good one

pine ember
wind shore
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When I play maps I mostly don’t interested in their significance

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I interested in gameplay

winter rover
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I meant your eastern front maps you listed

pine ember
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You are one man - How many people play HLL?

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Your opinion is not relevant

wind shore
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Yeah but El Alamein is famous map - and it’s just desert

winter rover
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This isn't S44

pine ember
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HLL should find a suit spot between both - Historical significance and gameplay

winter rover
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devs should add either market garden or some italian front maps

pine ember
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And El Al isnt as worse, I would say PHL is worse

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Rather Market Garden since we already have assets for that

winter rover
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great... reusing assets

pine ember
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The chances of getting an entire new campaign are pretty low by now

winter rover
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I don't want them butchering market garden then

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If they're going to reuse french assets

pine ember
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They wont - We have Dutch assets too

novel geyser
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reusing assets is something devs do, and with how long it takes to make HLL maps would be good for cutting down development time

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big reason why I want some normandy maps for the british

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most market garden maps would probably need new assets tho unless they do some vague hells highway map in the countryside

winter rover
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A juno beach and reusing the assets, sure np

novel geyser
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there is already a market garden map with driel

winter rover
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driel was such a stupid map choice

pine ember
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North Africa already has the subfactions, we should get more maps for that

novel geyser
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I agree

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with both of those statements

pine ember
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Tbh I do not care that much about the 1944 Brits in Europe, North Africa is what makes them truly unique

novel geyser
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I wouldnt mind more north africa maps, aslong as its not just more open desert

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unless they do something to make desert combat actually fun

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still think tanks and explosions should leave lingering dust clouds as natural smoke screens of sorts on north africa maps

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might mess with performance tho

winter rover
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I don't even remember the last time i played tobruk

pine ember
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BFV had some fun North African maps, if they manage to find a similar location for HLL that would be cool

novel geyser
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battlefield doesnt have the guns of HLL tho so
biggest problem I think with North Africa is the maps will have really long sightlines, and with how laser accurate guns are in HLL it plays pretty bad

pine ember
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Thats true

winter rover
pine ember
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But just the environment, maybe directly along the coastline there is the possibility of finding environment that isnt just barren desert

winter rover
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Open desert maps

novel geyser
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I always thought El Alamein should play very differently from others, with a focus on tanks, mechanised infantry, strong defensive structures

pine ember
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Yes

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The North African campaign was a pretty modern war with all units being motorized, that should be reflected in the game

novel mantle
novel geyser
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yup

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again to both statements

pine ember
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Meanwhile the horse was still present on the eastern front

wind shore
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For logistics

novel geyser
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game is way too strict in its mechanics and balancing and doesnt let maps determine things like tank fuel cost or the ammount of tank crews, loadouts etc

novel mantle
pine ember
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Yes

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The Wehrmacht wasnt the mechanized juggernaut

wind shore
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It was not used on the battlefield mostly

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Only for delivering supplies and cannons

pine ember
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But for logistics, transportation,... That was done by trucks in North Africa

winter rover
wind shore
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Cause it’s desert

pine ember
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The Afrikakorps was among the best units of the Wehrmacht

wind shore
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You changing opinion everyday

pine ember
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No, how?

novel mantle
wind shore
pine ember
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I dont see where

wind shore
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Wehrmacht was the best you were saying, now Africa corps

pine ember
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Afrikakorps was a part of the Wehrmacht...

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Can people that have no idea of what they are talking about please be quiet?

novel mantle
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At Mokra, Krojanty, Borowa Gora, etc

winter rover
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The Krojanty was the propaganda one right?

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Where the germans said they charged their tanks

novel mantle
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Yeah,

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Originally, they charged German infantry that were caught in the open and forced them to scatter and retreat

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But then the armored cars came out of a forest soon after and the Poles tried retreating but many were killed

winter rover
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rip

novel mantle
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The Poles even did a cavalry charge against the Soviets in Husynne (24 September) lol

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Was successful, they broke through the Soviet infantry... but ofc tanks were called in and defeated them soon after

winter rover
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Yeah nvm to Poland then for HLL

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I feel like not giving them horses would make it feel like they're missing something 😂

novel mantle
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Well,

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A Battle for Warsaw map would work, both sides used tanks and armored cars

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No cavalry

pine ember
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Sadly they never realized Poland or Finland

silk igloo
novel geyser
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Disagree

silk igloo
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It happened a few times that I'd be defending mid point by having my squad in the red, and the attacker was coming from their top HQ. Either side just couldn't get through anywhere easily so the entire map width was in use, roughly one squad for one grid. It was great.

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No teleports, just squads pushing what they can and creating opportunities as hills change hands

cyan saddle
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Old Alamein would've worked much better if red garrisons weren't as susceptible to being immediately overrun

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The idea that you would need to use a larger portion of the map doesn't work when your spawn points only function effectively when placed against the enemy's front door

silk igloo
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The map is kind of tiny regarding cover, so MGs, AT-guns and tanks from supporting squads can destroy the enemy and their spawns from quite far away, as soon as they get line of sight from the side. OPs and garris generally have cover only straight towards the enemy, there's almost always a way to shoot it from other angles. Then, when the strongpoint is flanked from two or more sides, it's just a matter of time before a shell gets their spawns too and you can walk in without much of a fight

cyan saddle
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What you are describing is an attacker's holy grail. If the defending team fails so badly as to get surrounded from all sides on Alamein out of all maps, then they don't just deserve to lose that one point

silk igloo
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it happens over a period of time though, one hill leads to the next. like a cascade where taking one hill at the bottom of the map eventually flips every hill to you toward the strongpoint at the top of the map

past vortex
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does happen but its rare

silk igloo
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assuming that both sides play equally, then it's what happens every time, it's just hard to discern what lead to the enemy losing one ground by one

cyan saddle
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It's not what happens, because defending is easier than attacking, and defending friendly territory is harder than defending enemy territory

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If you play better than the enemy, logically you take ground and eventually you make it to the point. The challenge is maintaining that ground and keeping up pressure because otherwise, on paper, you're at a disadvantage.

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And on Alamein in particular, because you have to cover long distances to go anywhere meaningful and spread yourself so thin in the process, doing so against any fair opponent will not work

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As a defender you have ample opportunity to simply spawn in your own backline, walk 20 meters, and suddenly you cut off the whole attack's lifeblood because the attacker's red zone garrison is overrun.

silk igloo
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You have to go wider though, otherwise the enemy will bypass you on the left or right and screw you from there. Eventually both teams hit map edge.

cyan saddle
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Eventually you're gonna have to make it back to the point anyway though. The wider you go the more opportunity of being cut off.

silk igloo
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It's the attackers using airheads and red garris that are at great danger of getting cut off and farmed by a few guys, giving away all the ground they fought for.

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Seen it happen too many times. Dont want to use red garris behind the enemy, just 100-200m into the red to carry the push

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It'll go green and serve as a necessary ladder sooner or later

cyan saddle
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It's a risk/reward kind of thing. Generally the deeper you move it into the red the more likely it is to get overrun, but the greater the area you can cover. Putting it halfway is smart. But not a solution.

silk igloo
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I think it's an unnecessary gamble. The attackers leave a gap on the map someplace else, and they're not supported by their tanks or other squads at all (and they get flanked by enemy defenders from all their spawns like you said). One squad should be fine though.

winter rover
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The MG42 is my biggest complaint about this game

worthy charm
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Im gonna say it again!
Give 👏
the 👏
MG 👏
42 👏
a 👏
Overheating 👏
Mechanic 👏
or 👏
Barrel 👏
Change 👏
Feature 👏

slate canopy
worthy charm
worn shell
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There's nothing more absurd than a tank having two rockets. It's great that the guys who built the tank are trying to prevent them from playing with tanks.

winter rover
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has like six of these "50" round mags

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and plus your reasons

worthy charm
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They should make it a 200 round mag in my opinion. 50 rounds are to just not a fair nerf.

winter rover
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imo make it 50 round mags first

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then next unlock you have 250 round belts

worthy charm
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BROOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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UNLOCKS MENTIONED

slate canopy
winter rover
oak current
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👀

worthy charm
past vortex
worthy charm
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What would be the point to have the MG with the highest fire rate and the smallest magazine?

winter rover
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and it's not useless

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have you played ro2?

worthy charm
worthy charm
# winter rover have you played ro2?

I dont need to... It would make the MG42 so much worse then the MG34. Also it would just long time players an advantage... so it wouldnt even be an improvement.

winter rover
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mg34 already has too much ammo too

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Ro2 did it the best for their lv up class system

past vortex
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we could replace it with a 20rnd mg13

worthy charm
past vortex
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:D

winter rover
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MG34 has the single 50 round mag, then double 100 round mag, then ammo belt (250?) for the final unlock

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And MG42 only has the ammo belt unlock

past vortex
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irl both mg34 and 42 had only 50rnd drums

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and belts up to 250 but those required a carrier

winter rover
past vortex
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sometimes a 50rnd belt was just used loose

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that worked too

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but certainly not a longer one

thin lotus
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RO2 was the same way. The MGs had an overheating mechanic applied, but since the gunners know that -they shoot in bursts/taps in a way where they'd never overheat in any situation. It renders the whole mechanic as a non-issue and you've still got gunners that are effective, and probably more so effective now.

winter rover
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as they should

thin lotus
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well sure.
The mg player you hear shooting off hundreds of rounds consecutively is not the mg player that you should be worried about. So by suggesting an mg "nerf" to apply to that particular player isn't doing anything.

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And on the contrary, a good MG players shoots 2-3 rounds towards targets he has sights on, gets the kill then waits for the next target. This sort of MG player will never be hampered by an overheat mechanic that is meant to "nerf" MGs. He will be just as effective whether or not there is an overheat applied.

winter rover
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It's a different story when you're laying down suppressive fire

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I understand shooting a couple rounds when just sitting and overwatching a field or something

finite berry
winter rover
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But when defending and under heavy fire, or they throw smoke, you ain't just trying to kill man

finite berry
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Even then you wouldn't cause your MG to overheat

winter rover
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Spraying into the smoke or suppressing an area where you know guys are hiding, etc

worthy charm
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hope youre proud now

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finite berry
finite berry
winter rover
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still shouldn't be able to control the recoil with ease

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I used up an entire mag shooting in smoke, killing more than a dozen people when defending once

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That shouldn't be possible

thin lotus
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shouldnt be possible?

winter rover
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yes shouldn't be possible

winter rover
molten heath
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Pretty new to the game, level 30. Just had my best ever game, about 40 kills with the shotgun and one of very few games of mine with positive kd.

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Quite pleased with that

slate canopy
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Kills are important, but not the most important. Good job tho ico_HLLSalute

low bridge
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Guys I have this issue lately where I will always load in forever the first time I join a server, I'll eventually lose connection to host and connect seamlessly the next time, also seems the map is already loaded it takes less time than it'd usually take. But why does it happen in the firstplace / any way to fix?

slate canopy
low bridge
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HDD

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I have an SSD aswel it is just a little full lol.

winter rover
slate canopy
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It's better to have it on SSD. Sometimes the HDD works but the assests sometimes don't load quick enough like an SSD.

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Thus it disconnects you.

low bridge
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Alright, it used to be run fine though I have noticed it is a little slower overall, any settings that might help with it perhaps as a temporary solution?

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Will try and clear up some space for it in the SSD in the long run

slate canopy
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Unlikely 😅

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This has great setting suggestions, but I don't think it'd fix your situation

low bridge
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Thanks you, will check it out aswelico_HLLSalute

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slate canopy
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As in your loadouts for outfits? Yes, some people have that issue.

oak current
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I think I had two resets since 2019 👀

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no idea why some people get that issue so often

slate canopy
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I honestly forget it 75% of the time... even when like winter map to non-winter map.

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Or opposite - non winter to winter lol

worthy charm
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Same

oak current
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"I'll wear it till it becomes stylish again"

worthy charm
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I dont really use the presets either

crude hamlet
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crude hamlet
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dire pollen
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whats overlay

past vortex
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the read only thing is not recommended

past vortex
covert elbow
crude hamlet
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covert elbow
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This isn’t even about realism. It’s about game balance

finite berry
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me looking for the milsim

finite berry
covert elbow
finite berry
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Then do it :D

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And for the love of God, add fire modes so you can make use of the MG 34's singleshot

past vortex
pine ember
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Maybe make it lvl6 for the DAK, but removing it entirely doesn’t make any sense

night lark