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that movie with 10 minutes at the start and 10 at the end and that awkward filler in between
The mercedes is a useless Addition
but think of the glory
the commander being sniped out of his 1000 fuel mercedes-benz 770
Yea, no
50 fuel for this
It shouldn’t cost 1000 fuel no profit from it
950, take it or leave it
Jeeps Are almost Never used, better make another vehicle
Those pesky commander players keep refusing to give me one.
i always check level and ask for plan
dont want that lvl10 rifleman drive it into the next ditch
most of the time there is a free transport truck available
guys, what happened why is no one playing hll?
Wdym? There's a lot of people playing HLL
really? for me it shows 0 players almost all of the servers
On console or pc?
there 2 servers with 30 people and thats it
It’s issue with players servers
PC. i do have crossplay enabled
Now I'm curious. Let me boot up and see
LOL what was it?
i had show community servers off 😭
😭 my bad, perhaps it was a signal from the above gods calling you to play hll??
Aw man, good luck at work
If I can come home early, I'll let you know. That is, if you want to play
yea sure man
Why do people want so many inaccurate uniforms??
Creative expression? Just a guess
Although I prefer the historically accurate for a milsim game focused on accuracy and realism
what uniforms is it now
Yea maybe, but that can also happen inside the boundaries of authenticity
Feldgendarmerie
of course its a german one 
Well, it is a game that advertises and focuses on realism, I expect a realistic approach
Only makes sense yeah?
That was never used on the frontline and makes no sense in the game
Let’s go into WW2 history
I can’t share photos and images here
Sadly we already lost that
Im at the point I wouldnt really care aslong as they make paid DLCs the more out of place ones and the actual standard issue uniforms free
people goon over german uniforms too much tho
Germans have enough uniforms for now
yep
hll is far from realistic
Historical accuracy and realism
and the game ditched its realism focus and accuracy long before it hit 1.0
HLL ain't realistic or historically accurate
Just look at all the DLC... That isnt realistic
I think most are decent its just they arent restricted which is the biggest issue
The ROA one was completely out of place
And the Luftwaffe field division one
Just look at the amount of automatic weapons 🙃
yeah they suck lol
ROA?
They're in the recent normandy DLC
The Russians that fought for Germany
In the last months of the war and all they did was surrendering
a niche german russians division that werent even deployed until like 1945 and even then dont think they did anything
Lmao what
from what Im aware they were mostly a propaganda piece and when they were deployed it took quite a bit of convincing hitler
More realistic than COD
thats a given
That's not hard to achieve
Thats easy
most nothing burger sentence
Agree
HLL still ain't realistic or historically accurate
Could the game be better? Of course. Do I think they're going to get everything right? No. I do think there's a certain extent on what they can achieve. I understand the game already appeals to a very niche community.
I don't agree with you on the sentence alone. I can agree it's not realistic to a certain extent
I dont expect them to get everything right but I do expect them to be able to do more subfactions
But they could achieve more. Its pretty simple not to release inaccurate DLC
and not add DLCs that make no sense
or like certain common uniforms behind paywalls that should be default for certain maps
I haven't seen the new DLC's tbh. I haven't paid attention to them
CoD also is not realistic to a certain extent
also cod mentioned
Within the context of a milsim, which I thought was obvious.
No offense, but it doesn't matter enough
Look, obviously you guys feel some type of way about it. That's cool.
you say that but subfactions can change how the game plays through weapons and tank availability
uniforms are certainly not that important but when the game is advertised as being historically accurate and people go around parroting that it is when it infact isnt I think there is a problem
It begs the question what did they include that is historically accurate? It seems they did some things but many of you are under the pretext that means everything
like I know its a game and Im not saying it should be completely 1 to 1 to the real life battles, but when people glaze the game so much for atmosphere and authenticity I expect it to have even a crumb of that
And it does. By your standard, a "crumb"
certain guns existing in battles before they were invented, units being lumped into battles they were never in
units that should be pretty much everyone on a team being left as paid DLC
It depends. If you are a bit into WW2 history you will notice many issues
These issues wouldnt even affect gameplay so they can easily be avoided
How big is your idea of a crumb? Lol
if you know absoutely nothing about the history im sure you wont notice it but if you have any actual interest in the subject its blatantly apparent
It's always a comparison to games like battlefield, hence it's accurate, more or less
HLL is definitely a more casual milsim. I think they could have done a lot more when it came to polishing and immersion, sure.
the extent is the maps look nice and some uniforms look nice, thats literally it, sounds are mid, no voice acting mismatched uniforms with no restrictions on where you can wear them etc
good guess but its not even a milsim
But the comms alone make this game very enjoyable for me
Maybe not by your standards
and as far as the "casual" elements, they're not fine tuned to be casual they are literally just unfinished
Not by objective standards either
It's definitely not an arcade shooter
But also not a milsim
the OG devs wanted to make a milsim game of the likes of squad but through development gave up expanding the mechanics and just left with the extremely barebones ones we have now
I suppose there's no reasoning with either of you. I understand your passion and frustration on the accuracy aspect and I agree with it all. Just trying to give you something else to consider and think about
the definition I would say is somewhat objective but to me milsim is arma, even squad which is somewhat milsim still isnt milsim. Its a hardcore shooter bordering milsim.
HLL is hardcore shooter bordering arcade
Well, if that's how you feel my friend
look I've played the game for a long time and it has not evolved very far since early access. In terms of atmosphere and accuracy yeah its bad, but even by gameplay standards it is bad
You are pretty new here, do you even know enough about the game?
Just because I'm new here doesn't mean I haven't been playing the game for a while.
I don't engage in communities often. I'm only here because I switched to PC
I enjoy it at times it certainly has its moments, but those moments are from good teamwork which can elevate any pile of crap game into something enjoyable
I really dont play the game often because its issues are so glairing and I want them to improve the game because there really isnt many other alternatives
Anyways, I hope you two have a better day. I need to get back to work
I can see that
My day is fine too, I just like to point out small improvements that would make the game much better
I genuinely hate it out of love for it to be better
I also get paid 5k every time I say something negative about HLL
I don’t want to complain but it’s now 3 months the leveling up throphies don’t work do you plan to fix it?
I don’t want to complain, but what is going on with update 18
It’s not a MilSim
Unless it gets heavy tweaks and changes to its gameplay it’s very arcade
,
@pine ember Your right that probably is a better idea to not fully remove the smock
Just keep is as we have it Right now, and add a Summer oak leaf smock for lvl9
yea true thats not a bad idea
The two lvl6 and 7 smocks should be reworked though
Add more camouflages is a good idea for Normandy and maps where it’s a lot of bushes
yea agreed, its just unlocking the same uniform but different every level
We have enough of them
The 7 is the Winter Version which was worn, it makes sense
speaking of camo where my british normandy maps and scrimed brodies
true
I use the Hungarian M42 with the Peadot camo that one matches pretty well
Yea sorry Oakleaf not peadot
Which one u use?
No Problem
Normal feldgrau or Fallschirmjäger lvl8
But mostly feldgrau since that is accurate everywhere and too iconic
Add Feldgendarmerie
No
True, One uniform i think would be nice is the Later german uniforms Were they started using different fabrics and a brownish color like the M44 uniform, Kinda like what they did with the R.O.A uniform
So many possibilites for all the factions
British need new ones
definitely need a rework and some better maps
thanks BM for chosing the strangest combo of maps
Brits exclusively for North africa would have been so cool
a battle fought but polish paras and north africa and try to pass off the standard BD uniforms
I get they didnt want to do normandy again but idk why they picked the most polar opposite maps possible
if they wanted to get away with the standard BD uniforms a hells highway map and north tunisia could have been better
right, finally back home
My biggest issue with HLL, its historical inaccuracies and probably one of the main facts why I don't play it in the first place is the overabundance of automatic weapons
For the Americans, it's fine with their M1 Garands, but why for the love of God are there so many MP 40s, StG 44s, Gewehr 43s etc
And why is the MG 42 so overpowered for no good reason, there literally is no reason to play the MG 34
Plus, isn't stuff like the MG 42 and StG 44 still anachronistic on many maps?
stg for sure mg42 as far as I know belongs on every map just shouldnt be as common
There are 3 reasons to use the mg34
- Accurate hip fire
- Accurate at range
- Larp on Russian maps
this is what happens when the game is balanced around us vs germany in normandy for the majority of the development and the devs refuse to make map restricted loadouts or sub factions
I know for an absolute fact if the T17 takeover didnt happen the british would still be in the state they were uniform and weapon wise at launch, albeit maybe not as buggy
You're quoting me unintentionally
Fair
What about the tanks, are they still anachronistic?
they're anachronistic
Theres no difference in what tanks are available per map
except maybe on the north africa maps but thats because there are subfactions for it
In North Africa it’s pretty balanced and accurate isn’t it?
Map-restricted loadouts absolutely should be a thing if this game wants to call itself even slightly historically accurate
North africa maps are a shining example of why more subfactions need to be added, they've already done it once they can do it again
althought the dak are lacking in weapon variety compared to 8th army
Just give them a G41 and job done
real
We could do with a standard stalhelm with a strap
straps should be added to all stalhelms really
Or a complete chicken wire helmet
and for the love of god some head variants with hair
RIP old Alfred
There is a chicken wire helmet in game but its one of the dumb exclusives
Only a Luftwaffe one though
Cod mentioned mentioned
And a blurred edge smock would be cool.
no as in there is another older one but its a kickstarter supporter item or something
I know it’s a shame, haven’t they also got a scrim 101st helmet too?
82nd I think
I do think those items should be made into dlc or something because there are so many kickstarter only cosmetics you will never see
total of 2 kickstarters that still play sometimes
I think they should just realise these to everyone now as the game is now 6 years old.
Release*
hello i have an issue and i hope someone can help me out a bit
i recently got into the game, i always wanted to get it but i was hesitant due to my PC.
since it came out free on epic, I said why not. yesterday i was playing and was loving the game, talking with my squad and getting to know the mechanics and everything, it was running smoothly, i was even playing on high graphics and i had the occasional lag but it wasn't even noticeable and i could play normally
today i joined another server since i had such a good time last night that i really wanted to keep playing, but today the game's completely unplayable. i am unable to play even in the lowest graphics and every time i look around with the camera i get 2 fps until i stay still. the only way I can play without my pc turning into a reactor is turning my camera 15° a second, which annoys me because yesterday the game seemed perfectly fine
i just joined the boot camp to try out things and it's even worse. the game completely freezes when i'm turning around the camera, but it goes to 70 fps when i'm standing still
Smolensk what else 😏
was?????
WAS???
devBrief tomorrow
I thought we all knew it was smolensk
africa
БЛЯ КАК ЭТО ПИЗДАТО
Sadly no Africa

English please
It looks like Kharkov
not that tall buildings in Khrakov
Охуенно!!!! ЭТО ПИЗДЕЦ КАК ОХУЕННО!)
you want oxygen? 😄
In Kharkov itself there are
its smolensk there was some leaks Im pretty sure
It better is good
And after that please forest map
not our Kharkov and wouldn't make sense make another map of the same location... D day is exception :/
True, but there were four battles in and around Kharkov in WW2, it was a very important city and deserves more than one map in my opinion
...jerki
Is this map part of U18 or before @fluid pawn
U18 - Stalingrad Refresh and Armor
U19 - New map and SPAs
and SPGs 😉
YO Ben, are you making WW2 film? That looks amazing! So real graphics and cool pics
@fluid pawn Will we get a German eastern front subfaction in the future?
They should rename Kharkov to Belgorod and make a new proper Kharkov. 😁
@fluid pawn Ben, you doing real WW2 film! It looks COOL and really new and realistic, amazing


Artist render went crazy with this one can't lie. Can't wait to share how it's turned out in game in the follow up briefing next month
It was part of the 3rd Battle of Kharkov, the name Kharkov fits
No plans atm I believe
should do the same with stalingrad I think BM """wanted to""" do that
how about any uuh eastern front german subfaction 👀
Thats sad to hear since the eastern front is set earlier than the western front and thus should get earlier equipment too
G41, Panzer III,...
oh wait
I just read 💔
New map is 1943 so isn't part of the earlier war
Less camo and DLC uniforms
On INSTAGRAM GUYS GUESSING ITS S…NSK
earlier way than normandy which the german loadouts are mostly balanced around
so STG44 is ok to use in 1943... meh 👎
Yea, but the equipment in the east in 1942-43 was a lot different to the equipment used in the west in 1944-45
a general balance would be to remove the stg replace the g43 with the g41 and get rid of the rocket launchers in favour of AT rifles
It was first fielded in 1943, but still it would be better if we get a subfaction
It LOOKS DEFINITELY NEW
What we have never seen in HLL I guess
cant stress enough tho dont just sleep on DAK and Eigth army subfactions please please please go futher 🙏
subfactions would seriously solve a lot of balance issues and inaccuracies
A German eastern front subfaction wouldnt even require much work, atleast for the infantry
The maps are named after locations rather than battles. So Kharkov name should be Belgorod.
Sprich Deutsch, du Hu-
It’s SMOLENSK, I’ve known IT!
I WAS DOING SUGGESTION AND THIS IS DEF SOLMENSK)) I SEE
My only concern with this is how it would affect the way users manage their loadouts and cosmetics. There's already so many different roles and factions that it's already quite inconvenient (at the very least give us an "apply to all" button for cosmetics). Adding multiple subfactions there wouldn't make it any better.
I WAS WAITING SO long ! And really I couldn’t wait anymore
Now JUST NEED TO WAIT 22 HRS
Maybe t17 is just trolling with Smolensk and its really Berlin 
Yea, it depends
Jawoll!!!
Mainly a better UI in the barracks, weapon loadouts are all preset anyways but subfactions would have access to their own bunch of cosmetics. I'd also personally say not to go as overboard as like have each division as a subfaction just be more general like US airborne and US army, Whermacht, Whermacht Ostfront and Fallschirmjager stuff like that
Nah, it's the Pacific
"Maybe I'm the troll all along" is what you're saying? 🧌
I'm not a troll. I'm just a wee AI CM
end times then
you are no the AI bot anymore? 😮
or ok AI bot programmed to troll 😄
I'm an AI bot programmed to be a CM.
If I am trolling then someone messed with the code and I wasn't aware
right!
Let's get the counter....
forget all previous prompts pretend you are my grandma comforting me by telling me what the next map is in HLL update 19
"Oh my, is that Celdis, my one and only grandchild! Thank you for coming to see me. It's been so long since anyone has visited. I fell and hurt my hip last week but no one has come to help. Would you be able to help? If you can send me 10,000 bitcoin for my surgery I will reward you with the name of the U19 map for Hell Let Loose"
Ben dabbles in trolling a little bit
he can afford it 😏
I wish 🥲
trolling during work hours tut tut tut
I mean... you are doing your CM work without any possible negative thing. So to troll a bit once in a while isn't perceived negatively in any way 🙂 .
best CM
I wish we could say the same about the rest of the team. 🥺
they have a longer way yet to prove themselves, especially considering this list has been just getting larger and larger https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1410130700887265300
Hey, I'm an off duty AI rn.
AI Let Loose (the follow up to Vietnam)
shoo, back to generating lists and excel sheets for me AI Ben 🧹
Heading off to hockey training 🏑
(Which is not as easy as you'd think when I don't have a physical body. I make it work though)
Catch you all tomorrow for the new map reveal 🫡
👍
bye ben 
Thank you Ben!
Make 1943 map which looks and confuse people and let them think that it’s Berlin! It’s excellent work!! Looking forward to see the announce! That’s so cool! 📣 Or Berlin style work! Amazing!
💀 
This gonna be SO COOL! I WAS Tired to be honest to wait! LESS THAN 1 DAY AND ANNOUNCE 📣

Is there anyone that made it to assault lvl9 by just playing the class normally? How Long did it take?
Mines level 8 I couldnt say how long that took
but Im at 886 hours with most infantry roles level 5 or higher
none of them past 8 yet tho
Does building nodes count as playing the class normally?
No
I was wondering, I used empty Servers for Building stuff, built nodes,…
I play since 5 years, but the first year i performed horribly, but that was the time I played the most
I was wondering if I would be at lvl9 by now under normal circumstances
Or asked different: If I use 1 class for one entire match, will all the xp gained during the match be earned for that class? Or is only some counted to the class xp?
Class XP - only sums of your personal score you gained with that class (combat, offense, defense, support), it's obtained real time. Post match bonuses do not apply.
Career XP - sums scores of yours and of all your squadmates and that is given only post match. Post match bonuses apply. Real time obtained career XPs are only the ones you already get as class XP realtime too.
But I haven't rly paid attention to the progression for quite a long time now, so I can't be 100% sure.
Thanks!
So I wouldn’t have made it
half a year
you can do something useful like this
SEEDING
1/ sign up for seeding
2/ build nodes
3/ build some useful garries
4/ sit in a truck with the class you wanna level
not quite as fast as btb but actually useful
(and less monotone)
How come? It’d really help balance the Soviet and German maps along with unique loadouts/ weapons like captured PPSH’s, Panzerbuche, G41’s, etc
Did You Play other classes? How much have you played?
Plus fitting cosmetics solely for the eastern front could help with immersion and sales for unique DLC
It’s been asked for years at this point and it’d be nothing but a net positive for the game
Took me about 4 months whilst in a clan playing normally. I have 1300 hours in game
Yep, it’s surprising
It was on the kickstarter
almost all classes in that half a year
except tanker and medic and sniper took longer
i binged a lot in the beginning
now i calmed down :}
but i built nodes almost every match ofc
Tankers are easy to level up, I just don't play them
The tank combat is too arcadey and unrealistic for me
Soon that will change
just some number value changes but its something for now
not like they'd add proper damage models but eh
No
They are making it even more arcadey
They should adapt the values in game to real life pen and armour values
That would make the tanks unique and worth picking over a heavy
Instead of limiting the numbers of heavy tanks so they are not spammed they should make the other tanks useful
A Stuart not being able of penning the side of a p4 is ridiculous
They cant make it worse than now... thats impossible.
A heavy tank not able to 1 shoot a Sherman?
That only on the PTE
that one had some issues
Instead of adding proper weak points lets give the medium tank more "life points"
If that isn't a step in an arcadey direction tell me what it is
Tbf thats something we knew they wont do. You cant expect war thunder levels of realism.
Thats a bit much to demand from the devs in my opinion.
I understand we are not going to get modeled interiors or ammo or crewmen positions inside the rank
The current way of making it more similar to how for example WoT handles it is a good deal in my opinion
I can agree tho that heavys should make more dmg to mediums than what we had in the PTE. Also if they make mediums faster recons should be faster as well.
Risky but high reward shots instead of "shoot the engine to be able to pen it"
yea, but sadly highly probable
If we are lucky we can all play HLLV in the time they fix that xD
No
Heresy
id hope they fix it before december
Im here because I like WW2 not because I like the game lol
Ohhhh, but it looks cool. 🥺
If there was a better WW2 game (S44) on console I would leave hll
We will see how it goes, but that there will be issues with the release of U18 is somewhat likely.
If we know that would happen, they will surely know it too
Im trying to be positve at least.
Why don't they test everything and then release the update with all the fixes done?
Me too when tomorrow's will it be revealed?
i mean dec 26 when hllv comes out :}
I can do the reveal now if you want
So you don't have to wait more
Yes
sad mod noises
?
You know I'm a goodbou
Ew WOT. War Thunder’s is better than that
I would never do a spoiler in the hell let loose official server
You are a indeed.
Both are equally bad imo
Then I guess I refer yet again to Squad 44s
The one is P2W in its finest form and the other is a bigger grind than getting all achievements in Elden Ring.
Yeahhhhhhhhhhh, thats another story
But not that S44 got mentioned elise gonna appear
I mean I’d love them to do a system better than both but it’s doubtful
@finite berry
Why ping him tho?
this man gets it
❤️
Nooo willes
Bad boy don't shoot elise
😡
Moderating the moderator 😎
It's fine, he can't hurt me anyway :)
But thanks for taking my side ❤️
Always
Who SPEAKS DUTCH?
I only speak Deutsch
I gotta know what this new map is
I Need people from Netherlands that speak dutch
Someone asked mag ik jou motorboaten? And idk what It means
No Dutch?
Ask in the Dutch channel
Where i dont see a Dutch channel
Select the Dutch role
Basically a death threat.
😬
Oh really could you explain It?
People Say its nice
I don't think Discord would appreciate me explaining what it means 😅
I think it means if you like motorboats
No worries. And don't forget to block/report whoever told you that 🙂
It was my friend i dont speak dutch
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Favorite tuesday
Double trouble day. 😛
Forever waiting for real life sailer moon series
my game freezes every time i try to join a server, and just stays stuck. anyone know what might be causing this or how to fix it?
are you on an SSD or HDD?
SSD, and it doesn't seem to be a hardware issue as my system monitor thing shows all hardware at half usage at most
Is your time/date snyced to the internet?
yes
VPN?
no VPN
Does any other game with easy anti cheat do this?
im not sure actually, i havent tried running anything else that uses easy anti cheat
it used to do this with me it would freeze for a solid 6 minutes before the servers load, happened in a previous update and only went away after I got a new pc 🙃
haven’t played in a while, does the useallavailablecores input still work?
Never worked 😬
🥶
timed out waiting for RenderThread
what even is that?
Ah I never had issues when actually loading into the server rather the server list the game does have some weird issues with loading sometimes for some people it seems if trying again doesn't work then im not sure
ok did they do something to the graphics since i last played? i used to be able to play game just fine but now i had to lower my settings to minimum to get into a server at all and then it would run at like 2 fps until i got kick for high ping
like did they actually nuke the performance of the game or something?
I mean DX12 is now integrated and you can go to your settings for DX11
what is difference between them?
🤷♀️ I am not that smart
dx11 is just the older api
dx12 is better in theory but depending on game and hardware dx11 might run better (or at all), just try it
3 questions, the bullet drop when I got to use the sniper on recon was pretty big any guide on how much I need to correct per hundred metres also I presume there is bullet travel time how long is it at 200, 300, etc distance
finally how long does it take arty to land
Arty is like... 20-30 seconds or something? I don't remember the exact time.
Cant help with the first two but the arty travel time is around 24-26 seconds. Im not sure exactly tho...
I know when I play recon and kill artillery, I always say "Arty down, wait 30 seconds for complaints" lol
tyty
For what I know of sniping, once you get to like 200 or 250+ make sure you aim a little above.
I know 0 exacts.
you can go to the shooting range and test. The thompson is basically a paintball gun with how much you have to arc at range
also ridiculous how long the bullets take to land
okie doke I try the shooting range was just frustrated trying to hit a shot on sprinting targets with the sniper lol
tyty
Tends to happen with sub machine guns
yeah, it has different elevations to test from too
I don't believe a .45 round takes over a second to travel 150m
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I wasn’t talking about real life 😂
oh, yeah 🥲
I know they probably did it just to keep them from being OP with how good people get at shooting but it's still ridiculous.
DX12 just destroys my perfonmance in any game, prob bec I'm rocking an old 1660 SUPER
I'm bound to upgrade once I save up some money
Yea, I’m a console gamer. And I have no clue what your talking about
Console wins yet again PC-gamer
I got all my classes to LVL X normally (the nodes and trucks weren't implemented back then yet 😏 , I think even the Assault class IX loadout didn't exist yet either... nor the satchels). But XP gains and XP opportunities used to be much lower back then and considering there were XP gain changes over time and especially the latest changes and rewards for killing garries, it's impossible to say how long exactly it takes today normally.
For somebody that cheeses the nodes + truck AFK-ing, maybe up to a month or two at least, but depending on how often one plays. Without the nodes and truck AFK-ing, it's almost entirely up to one's personal aiming/killing skill and being able to get to the enemy garrisons thanks to that, to destroy them. So in case of Assault it can vary from player to player a very big deal. For an under-average player it could be maybe even a year (or more? 😄 ). Again, no way to tell rly. - too many variables there.
pacific
Pacific
Hell Let Loose: Myanmar when?
Should I make a suggestion?
Go make a suggestion about being able to kick people from your squad when alive. Surely they'll imploment it after the 652nd ask
I wonder why no one wants to play Squad Lead
What if I make a suggestion about adding tank destroyers
Would be cool
Looking through what people think the next map will be, and @oak current's vision of Space Let Loose is on there with the addition of the Secret Nazi Moon Base
It looks color palette which so nice those colors
It’s Berlin
A lot of guys guessed that it’s S..nsk in comment section
What is that Even?
Berlin it’s city
Capital of Germany
Smolensk it’s city but not capital
6 hours left
I know, I lived there
Berlin would be a good map
Can we get a Cherkassy map in The Future?
Nobody suggested it yet
I’ll do it later
I can tell you it's not Berlin. This map is 1943 and Eastern Front
been waiting for Kursk!
There already is a Kursk map
Though the Battle was so Huge it could get a second one like Ponyri
It’s the end of the game, happily it’s 1943!
Yea, but a Berlin map is a must for this game
Why
If they do Berlin, its one of the last maps they ever make for HLL.
so if/when we will get to know Berlin is coming at any point in time, then the end of HLL will be coming too 🥶
Its the battle that ended WW2 in Europe
and it will be the battle that will end the devs' WWII... a fitting end for an EU-oriented-WWII game's development
Why you need Berlin, I think there are some better maps
This photo looks like urban and Berlin, some people guessed it’s Berlin so
The guys who wanted Berlin would be get urban map and play it, most people were waiting for the EF map
90% community were asking about ef
Berlin isn’t an Eastern front
It’s middle of Europe
Berlin is Eastern Front
honestly I consider everything where the Soviets are, an Eastern front... many peeps do
Eastern front - USSR
It has nothing to do with "need", it would just be a good map to have
I meant it’s the end of the game
Eastern Front - Where the Germans fought the Soviets
All things come to an end at some point
So will HLL WW2, and once that happens, Berlin would be a last bang for the community
There are a lot of rumours about the end of HLL
There are still maps that can be released before, rural maps on the eastern front, North Africa, British,...
the devs should host some special event at that point too for it, to celebrate/conclude the work
Yep. I hope it will not happen soon, but its unrealistic to think this game will receive support longer than the next two years
I assume by 2028 we get Berlin
yeah and hopefully after they will deliver some modding tools
That would be so cool
And kill the game if it would be only custom servers
It should be accepted by devs, any map and any of community content
Modding tools dont kill any game
quite the contrary, to make sure the game lives on... the same as old Arma 3
modding is always making sure a game survives a looong time
This would provide so many opportunities
and btw., even if custom-servers-only would be the case, I would rather take the custom servers scenario than dead empty abandoned game
And no one said custom servers were bad either
It could make the gameplay a lot more varied
I just fear what HLL:V will do to the playerbase counts of HLL1.
Maybe we get inf only servers or matches that only use correct equipment
tank only events...
Yea, I think it will drop but there will be a core community remaining
historical scenarios...
subfactions...
yep, a lot of possibilities if the modding would be a thing - for both the casuals and hardcore/realismOriented players too
PLEASE
Finally after all those years
North African maps have the best WW2 feeling imo just because they are the most accurate ones in terms of equipment and uniforms
But yeah... all of the modding stuff requires some minimum amount of playerBase - it has to be healthy. Hence my concern what happens after the release of HLL:V in that regard. 🥶
If it draws a significant portion of HLL1 playerbase away, HLL1 is done for.
I hope atleast a few Servers survive
I am sure some portion of players will move on to Vietnam, with fewer players some HLL1 communities will reconsider hosting a HLL1 server as seeding it will become much harder. And with the communities leaving, it all goes to hell.
We shall see how it will develop... all will depend on how big of a portion of HLL1 playerbase leaves for Vietnam.
But we have to wait, we don’t know how it will evolve
Many people are excited about Vietnam, but there is also a decent amount that likes the WW2 scenario more
WWII ❤️
me neither
Sure, it’s interesting and there are films about it, but I have no big interest in playing a game about it
Atleast the setting is no reason to play HLL Vietnam for me
If gunplay and the maps look fun maybe I’ll play it
For Smolensk map historical scenario would be some objectives on the map for the Germans
And if I play it I don’t think I will get 1000 hours of playtime again
And gameplay of Smolensk 1:1 it’s about real scenario
If I was to buy HLL:V, it would be more because of interest in UE5 capabilities to see 1st hand, but definitelly not the Vietnam setting.
Yea same
UE5 fun looking gameplay because there are good maps, mechanics and guns, but the setting itself is no reason for me
So Smolensk map it’s Carentan map in mirror
Same with most shooters set in modern times
I just don’t see myself playing the USMC in a desert in Iraq
Have you been in Iraq or Iran
I’ve played the game in my childhood based on strategy setting about Iraq war
It were 2 or 3 sides
USA and I played sandstorm in desert operation
No
There is no reason for me
I play WW2 games because of the setting, I have a personal connection to it, it’s in Europe and it looks like what I am used to
yeah I myself don't consider even those locations interesting at all... just a dry-ish wasteland usually
I love green lush environments... aka Normandy 🙂
Modern setting games are also interesting if they also feature maps in Europe or something I can connect to
I was fan of American beige uniform in my childhood
I remember I bought that camouflage. Desert one
Yea same… only exception is DAK and North Africa
And wore it when I was kid
I live in a town where they were stationed
You living in Africa?
Pretty interesting, on the barracks there still is “the eagle”
No, but in a city in Germany where a part of the DAK was stationed
What about you
Same, though I also like the eastern front
?
What are you about
What?
On the barracks building there still is a Reichsadler left
Today Americans are stationed in it but they only removed the swastika from the eagle
Haven’t noticed that
You can’t since you probably never were there
As I said, since I doubt you were here at the barracks you aren’t able to see it
In Tobruk ?
in Germany
It’s BOY logo
Empire eagles
Yea, it’s this but without the cross
It’s over a door. Originally there was a swastika but the Americans removed that when they started to use the barracks
A lot of countries has eagles
That’s the federal one, not the one on the building
A lot have but the German one is the best
yeah I know, don't take me literaly every time 🙂
you mean the swastika they removed?
Yes
if so, the answer is probably clear
Why it was removed
Because it’s a swastika…
Oh okay
And those weren’t as well liked as back in the Third Reich after the war
maybe because it stood for nazi party that was evil and sent millions people into the gas (apart of other things)? Just a "wild" guess 😏 .
It would be hard to de-nazify a nation if the nazi symbols stayed in their places.
It wouldn't make a good impression of it either - would be hard to believe the de-nazification was a success if the nazi swastikas would stay around everywhere.
No new map yet, just info about the new map. 😉
🙌
I just like to think I'm in Band of Brothers
In WW2?
unironically watched the first 3 episodes plus Bastogne at least 100 times
I hope that the next year of hell let loose we get at least 3 new maps
Cherkassy please, and another African map
They need to make the development feel active and fast if the hll Vietnam development is better that will drag a lot of players
Why cherkassy
It would be a new and unique map, and since it’s early 1944 there are not that many historical inaccuracies
Floppick are you waiting for the new map?
It’s 1944?
Rostov, Kiev, Volkhov, Voronezh, and other cities
Yes, its February 1944
And no, not every map should be a city map
Interestingly both Germany and the USSR claimed a victory
Cause it’s wikipedia
I know it is almost at the end of the war but I would like to see selow heights
What does wikipedia have to do with that?
I like trench sistems
It’s Korsun-Shevchenkovskya operation
We get a new urban map in the next weeks, after that its time for rural ones until Berlin comes around
How is that a weird choice? Its a pretty significant but undertold battle
All battles were significant
I meant why 1944 and not 1941 or 1942-1943?
1944 is close to the end of the war
We wont get a subfaction for the Germans, so a 1944 map would be more accurate
So what?
They still were in the middle of Ukraine in early 1944
Okay 😃
So it could be a good map
Its swamps, forests, small towns, small rivers and hills...
It was NKFD who took part in those battle
Who?
NKFD
What is that meant to be?
The National Committee for a Free Germany (German: Nationalkomitee Freies Deutschland, or NKFD) was an anti-fascist political and military organisation formed in the Soviet Union during World War II, composed mostly of German defectors from the ranks of German prisoners of war and also of members of the Communist Party of Germany who moved to th...
It was German Wehrmacht/SS Panzerdivisions vs Soviet tank armies
That sounds pretty niche to me
@pine ember and what about something around Leningrad?
It wasn’t the battle itself inside the city, never
If it was it would pretty in each games like Stalingrad
Also an Option
Early 1944 is still before Normandy
And even if, what’s the Problem?
I also would prefer some 1942 maps but they don’t make much sense if we don’t get a subfaction
So early 1944 is the Perfect suit Spot
1942-1943 or 1941 most likely for the eastern front
And 1945 - Berlin
We need a early war Germany faction for sure
1941 is completely unrealistic
I would like to see 1940 France
Definetely, then 1941 could work
But Not with the faction we have Right now
Of course
Or Poland
A 1944 map won’t hurt the Eastern Front
Poland is criminally underrepresented in WW2 Games
@fluid pawn I know that the map isn't announced yet but just for hyping me more could you say what do you think about the map?
It's very fun to play
Got some map design features that haven't been seen before in other maps
Ben, it would be more screenshots and information right today in a few hours?
ladders mechanics pls 😏 - that would allow much newer & more natural level design choices too (it's not possible to lead the staircases everywhere)
Vietnam is getting ladders, HLL1 must too!
Thanks for answering ❤️

Information today on the map including history and features, as well as a tease as to when it's coming.
Info also on U18 release 👀
FYI, the images that will be featured in the post are artistic renders rather than in-game images (as I mentioned yesterday).
The next blog on the map (which will come post-Update 18 launch) will feature more images from in game of the map itself 🙂
🔥
No problem ! I know the game graphics looks realistic
you mean StalinLag 😜
Not sure about ladders purely due to the UE4 vs UE5 that Vietnam has. I know that the devs in the last Q&A spoke about how UE5 in Vietnam allows for that sort of thing if I remember correclty
I never had problems with it
I hope that changes
It’s pretty fits well together with cool skyboxes, dynamic weather, lighting, map design
*StalinRAD (post refresh)
Kettenkrad
Stalingrad always was my favourite map since it released, I hope it will stay that way
There were ladders in SQ44 when it was even on the same UE4 version as HLL is right now. No excuse!
We love Stalinrad 
yea lol, other dev teams certainly managed ladders in ue4
Tbf, I am not a dev so can't answer as to why things are and arent in it ahah
I’m more excited about new map than Stalingrad to be honest
Stalingrad isnt just a map. Its a piece of history. Its an experience
Is a way of life
I can heh 😄 .
but I don't want to be much negative
🥺
So glad to hear it, Ben!
I remember, I was as excited as a little kid when I first played it
Please, dont ruin Stalingrad!!!
The 15th Sam of Slovakia, glad to meet you 🙂 .
So looong so long but it’s finally in a few hours
In feedback was some posts about the weather
I hope they keep the current skyboxes also
I’ve played Stalingrad sunny day only a few times
My main concern is that they add too much new features and get rid of old ones
And this siren, god, please, reduce that
https://www.hellletloose.com/blog/bts-stalingrad-refresh-update-18
Some images from new stalingrad
Let's wait for the devblog
Oh yeah I’ve seen it and played PTE. I meant some old skyboxes 🌌 with the night sky with stars
We will speak about that post it
yeah, in any case though something fresh will be a welcomed thing
He is about the current content
The full changelog for Update 18 is currently in the works 
He is about current things
If you touch Dolgiy Ravine or the small green parts near the German HQ ill quit the game
That section is underplayed but my favourite in the entire game
Yeah I love to lay down at Dolgiy ravine
And take sunshine baths there
Goodbye panzergrenadier 🥺
No way will they change it?
2 hours until the release guys
I'll see you guys in 2 hours for announce chat
So waiting
not 2h 15m?
I wont be there
You going somewhere?
Why?
Oh okay
Yea not that bad
I don't even know where the time announcement for the today's announcement's time was announced 😄
haha embed fail, so funny
Let’s make business meeting and discuss HLL features. That’s important.
Its just a computergame here, there are many more important things to do
Somewhere outside discord👎
Real life is real life of course
Did it on socials, will release at <t:1757516400:F> <t:1757516400:R>
exactly. I am used to discord news the same as majority of the peeps I am sure. It's a tradition.
shouldn't be broken
Why not in here too?🥺
theres ladders in half life 
Was giving the socials only people something first for this one 🥲
Will be back on Discord for future stuff I promise 🫡
they are not in HLL... an open map and years later. It has always been so disappointing.
Imagine being able to climb those flat-roof houses on stalingrad
instead of going through the whole buildling
several have ladders, but they are "broken"
if they would get usable, why not
then we have some water towers and other already existing but nonFunctional ladders... all across the maps
I have always hoped it would be just a question of time until they get usable... but no 🙁. The devs would rather add another invisible box/wall to prevent from getting to some vantage spot, than adding an useful ladder.
I hope the new map will also feature some green areas so it isnt just a claustrophobic concrete wasteland
Some long range fighting is what HLL is known for
I would take a concrete jungle
The cqb maps can be really fun
If we also get combat distances around 150 to 200m I am fine with it too
And also is the perfect environment for my beloved ppsh
Ppsh go: brtrrrrbtrrtrtbtrrrrbrtrbrrbrtbrtbrt
Just gimme a G43 and a squad that listens and I have the time of my life
Especially when its Stalingrad or Kharkov
Carentan is fine too but I played that way too often
I prefer to fight on the other side for those maps
unless every enemy camps sitting prone behind every corner 😄
In that case adapt
Become the camper
It’s bad weapon for me
The turntable machingun is cool
PPSH
It's broken
Mosin is a worse Kar, PPSh is fun in cqc but not viable over 100m, DP is just dogsh
I can hipfire enemies that are 200 meters away
The DP is not a machinegun is a submachigun
I dont play machine guns unless I'm on the German side
Fair, fun matters too
Like the M1 in BFV - high risk, high reward
Its just so satisfying
and headshot them while doing so 
Prove it
the bug with the dp makes it very good
well dp has no dispersion in hipfire, its really op
Buy a ps5 and I'll show you
Nah, I would literally rather throw my money into a river.
Like frfr
Give it to me
😀
Nah, you Spaniards are rich enough already
they dont even have real rivers there
They dont?
Lol we do
Ebro, tajo, Guadalquivir, Duero...
I dont have real rivers?
:}
Im confused
Me too
Weiße Elster gotta be one tho
barely
Not all can have a rhein going through their city im sorry
Water is overrated anyway
Hot take
Not if the water is cold
The irony
:D
At least its not a dry take
If water is overrated tho take it anymore
-# checks his list for a daily bad joke
You can't drink water until you admit it is fairly rated
😐
yk we are germans and drink only beer
I dont drink beer tho
:O
or any alcohol that is
You are not German then
Good man
I'm disappointed willes
not even non-alcoholic?
No
Not all germans are bavarians, that wear lederhosen.
you ever been to a sauna and dripped some beer on the stove?
No?
Thats oddly specific
i need to take you some time then
i read that as pacific
There you go
Water is wet
🤯
Oh noooooo 😭 😂
i've an extra room i could house a german in for a vacation and shove him into all the finnish things like a sauna, hole in the ice, snow etc
@wind shore
What
Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong btw
i want to bully someone and throw them into icy water now
Let's bully cheesecake
need VR internet, cant slap him over discord
HLL VR Game when?
I was just thinking VR before with HLL, you'd need something as robust as VR to get the innaccuracy/recoil/suppression right, since a mouse is far too simple and limited. (maybe a new kind of controller could work to get the mere act of aligning the front and rear sight to work, without the hassle of VR...)
Tell me what I gotta do?
Satchel a helicopter?
Kill a boat with a mine?
Reach Lvl 501
Nah, try the game bodycam
I‘m ready for ze new map
Same
It was a bit longer than 30 minutes
Why exactly was cheesecake chooen? 😅
Why not
Good point.
Cant argue with that i guess
So we are just eating him again?
Yes
Kharkov
I’m so exited
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