mess-hall

[empty steppe]

I would say they built the Federov avtomat but… yeah… 🤣🤣

That wasn’t the Soviets

[pine ember]

Yea, but didnt see the potential XDD

[winter rover]

https://youtu.be/ogsdodlT99E?si=DAdPDIxY8pDrCT5D

thank you very much

[pine ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiTS3dcYicw&t=118s

I prefer that

[empty steppe]

I’d take a Suomi over a MAB any day

[pine ember]

You have to acknowledge that thing is better than a MAB

[covert elbow]

Checkmate atheists

https://youtu.be/1_8qLFoMzl4?si=5yBRO6oPRJKG_-nj

[oak current]

I'd take this 🍍

high in vitamins and enzymes

[empty steppe]

Now bergys gotta point

[pine ember]

Too heavy

[covert elbow]

Your to heavy

Hey fatty eat a salad next time /s

[empty steppe]

Someone bring me my popcorn

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/scout-tf2-tf2-no-tf2-scout-no-tf2-gif-5658164279773421779

[pine ember]

Ew its green, I dont like green food

Except Matcha

[wind shore]

I have feeling that Ben will come on Wednesday and announce new map and PTE next weekend

[winter rover]

ok?? we're talking about the mab38 vs mp40 lmao

[pine ember]

What is on wednesday?

[wind shore]

I’ve checked previous PTE was announced on Wednesday

[pine ember]

Because I got accused that I'm biased...

I'm not

[wind shore]

And he said that he come back on Wednesday

[winter rover]

Because you're denying the fact that the MAB38 was a better smg than the MP40

[empty steppe]

Nah, I gotchu a better one https://youtu.be/7AeXrnyv7RA?si=ULMrtoZSGN9OoiG1

[wind shore]

And on Wednesday, right, he wouldn’t come with any news for us?

[winter rover]

And also, add an Italian front and give the Germans the MAB38

[wind shore]

Or he just come

[empty steppe]

Reising is the best gun of the war hands down

[pine ember]

Yea, again, it depends which factors you consider. And overall, I prefer the MP40

[wind shore]

To say us that something delayed

[oak current]

Dont know why Ben needs a reason to get home.

[pine ember]

Finnish or Eastern Front 1941 would be better

Imo of course

[empty steppe]

We ain’t getting either of those anymore

[winter rover]

Would rather have a gun that's more reliable, thank you very much = mab38

[pine ember]

Sadly

[wind shore]

But on Wednesday, ok, on previous PTE was on Wednesday

[oak current]

so?

[pine ember]

MP40 IS reliable

[covert elbow]

Okay but real talk the Reising was a piece of garbage

[winter rover]

MAB was more reliable

[wind shore]

I have feeling about that he wouldn’t just come with out anything new

[covert elbow]

It’s famous for being one of the most unreliable pieces of equipment the marines got during the war

[oak current]

weird feelings

[pine ember]

But heavy

[empty steppe]

Capppp

[wind shore]

Why Wednesday, so not Thursday

And on Wednesday were announced of PTE

[empty steppe]

Greatest gun ever, most accurate, reliable, and effective

[winter rover]

by what, like .3kg

[wind shore]

JUST sml pls and that’s all, all I want to hear

[oak current]

cause Team17 had a stand on the Gamescom and all the involved people return over the weekend/monday/tuesday?

[winter rover]

I'll keep take the mab38 over the mp40 any day

You're delusional if you dont

[covert elbow]

Genuinely can’t tell if your messing with me or not knowing your opinions

[wind shore]

He come back on Wednesday, it’s 3rd day

[covert elbow]

HE HAS RISEN

[oak current]

sure

[wind shore]

So on Wednesday was previous PTE announce

[covert elbow]

PRAISE BE JESUS CHRIST

[oak current]

and if he sees his own shadow, the winter will be short

[pine ember]

It isnt as compact

[empty steppe]

Accurate to 1000 feet

[pine ember]

Ok...

[oak current]

HA, jokes on you - most people use their hands to fire a gun!

[wind shore]

No I can’t wait anymore, and checking those telegrams everyday like shizo

[empty steppe]

1000 feet would do the trick too 😉

[winter rover]

So you'll take the MP40 only because it's slightly more compact? Meanwhile the MAB38 is better in every other regard? VERY dillusional German boy

[wind shore]

I would wait it

But I have this weird feeling

[oak current]

might be food poisoning

[empty steppe]

Oh great heavens

[pine ember]

"German boy🤓 "

[wind shore]

Alcohol

[oak current]

or that

[wind shore]

Joking of course

[pine ember]

I think you still havent understood my point...

[winter rover]

Yeah because you're siding with German tech and being very biased towards them

[pine ember]

So I'm leaving the discussion now

[pine ember]

No dude...

[empty steppe]

Nah but german tech is pretty fire 🔥

[wind shore]

It’s SM* and I’m excited

If it’s

[pine ember]

There is enough German tech I think is bs

[wind shore]

Don’t care anyways

[pine ember]

Yea, thats true

[empty steppe]

V1 rocket cries

[wind shore]

I’m waiting for Wednesday, after would wait for next Wednesday

If it’s not Wednesday it means next month

[winter rover]

MAB38 > MP40

[pine ember]

Not even that, but take the Jagdtiger for example. Sure, powerful vehicle but totally unneccessary

[wind shore]

Next month means some news so I care

[pine ember]

Ok, I dont care what you would pick

[covert elbow]

Thompson>MP40>MAB38

[winter rover]

I literally listed all the reasons why

[pine ember]

KP31

[fading carbon]

MAB38 > MP40 > Thompson

[pine ember]

And I listed mine. So do you want to drag the discussion on? Why? You wont "convince" me anyways

[empty steppe]

45 ACP 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[covert elbow]

Thompson>MP40>MAB38>KP31

[wind shore]

I care about the telegrams

[pine ember]

Hmmm

[covert elbow]

It’s the lord caliber for a reason

[empty steppe]

Kedo I don’t even know what yous talking about

[covert elbow]

Do we ever?

[pine ember]

I think he waits for the new (and last) map

RIP to my Lenino map

[winter rover]

Yeah because you're too delusional to German weapons you wehraboo

[pine ember]

Is that your only argument?

[winter rover]

I gave you my argument earlier and you flat out refuse all of them

[pine ember]

"HMMM hes a Wehraboo hmmmm🤓 "

[covert elbow]

Silence Mussolini boy

[empty steppe]

Cooked em all

[pine ember]

So did I

[winter rover]

Wehraboo

[covert elbow]

I bet you think the Italians could have won if they just had better tanks

[winter rover]

anyways,

[pine ember]

Even then

[empty steppe]

My fav thing is how non of yall can figure out that these are opinions and not facts 🤣

[pine ember]

Ok, whats your point? Insulting me and now you think everything is fine?

[pine ember]

He doesnt understand that

[slate canopy]

All right folks 😅 lets calm the hostility and name calling please.

[covert elbow]

Facts don’t exist. Only opinions. And only mine are correct

[empty steppe]

I agree

[winter rover]

Another reason why we need Italy 1943 is because the Fallschirmjager used many MAB38s against the British and Poles, so it'll include a new weapon for the German assault class

[covert elbow]

Just because 100 Johnson rifles were used in Italy does not mean they should be added to HLL

[pine ember]

We dont need anything

[empty steppe]

You want some popcorn too?

[pine ember]

We just need Finland

[slate canopy]

I mean, I'm kinda hungry... don't wanna spoil my lunch. 🤭

[winter rover]

Seems more likely to get an italian front over a whole new faction and map, no?

[empty steppe]

Ah dang man

[covert elbow]

Or better yet, just add multi-factional teams so we can play as Italians and Germans in a match

[winter rover]

Considering how long it takes them to make a map

[pine ember]

I dont think so

[winter rover]

That would be nice

[pine ember]

Italy would need completely new assets, etc...

[empty steppe]

*lmgs

Or… automatic rifles, idk whatever you wanna call em

[winter rover]

Germans vs Brits/Canadians/Poles

[covert elbow]

Yea we’re never gonna get a new faction or front sadly. We’ll get like… 2-4 new maps for the Soviets or British and we’ll get support cut

[pine ember]

Ok, nice

1941 Eastern front

[winter rover]

and you can give the Germans the MAB38 as like a lv 9 assault

[covert elbow]

I mean for Canadians and poles the only difference would be patches so that would just be cosmetics

[winter rover]

yeah exactly

so less work for the devs

[covert elbow]

It’s still to much work lmao

[winter rover]

hence why better to have an italian front than finland

they obviously abandoned finland the poland 1939

[pine ember]

It was promised

[winter rover]

and? lmao

[pine ember]

"LmAo"

Finland needs to be added

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/giga-chad-gigachad-meme-giga-talk-talkmeme-gif-27266504

[winter rover]

""LmAo"" 🤓

[cyan saddle]

At this point Finland is just as likely as Italy, the plans from few years back are long gone

[winter rover]

It was promised to release in dec 2023

[pine ember]

I was meming you my boy

[winter rover]

2026 is approaching

Nice promise lmao

[pine ember]

Then it can release in Dec 2026

[covert elbow]

Can’t believe we’re getting AA guns soon guys

[empty steppe]

We ain’t getting no crap lol

[covert elbow]

And… what else was on the 2022 roadmap

It’s been so long idk anymore

[empty steppe]

They chucking us Berlin and calling it quits

[cyan saddle]

Campaign mode, party system

[pine ember]

Objective gamemode

[covert elbow]

Ah that’s right, campaign mode

I still don’t know how they expected that to work

Who in the hell is sitting down for a 5 hour match

[cyan saddle]

Also we only got one of the two EF maps

[finite berry]

Like a singleplayer mode?

[pine ember]

Were there two promised?

[wind shore]

@oak current and I forgot to say, that Ben said it’s coming next after Stalingrad, the new map, so why I have this feeling

[covert elbow]

It was a multiplayer mode

[oak current]

ok

[covert elbow]

From what I’ve seen it would have been like BF1’s operations

[cyan saddle]

We saw nothing

[covert elbow]

Smart materials yeaaaa

[empty steppe]

Just throw that in the garbage

[pine ember]

Man, thats sad

[wind shore]

#mess-hall message

[covert elbow]

Heavy HMG’s… we still think about you

[oak current]

ok

[cyan saddle]

Mortars

[covert elbow]

Did we ever get the Soviet anti-tank structures?

[wind shore]

no why should we get it?

[cyan saddle]

Yes

[covert elbow]

Yea we did but it was just hedgehogs

[winter rover]

fg42 sniper was such a stupid idea

[covert elbow]

Yea so we never got the scope optic improvments, flakpanzer; Vehicle Smart Materials, Campaign Mode, New Death Animations, New Personal Stats, New Loadouts, actual Soviet Anti-Tank Structures, Deployable Mortars, AA Flak Cannon Deployable, Heavy HMG Deployable, FX improvements, SFX improvements, General Bug Fixing, New Commander Absilites, Custom LODS, Soundtrack and Artbook DLC, or the Party system

[pine ember]

And then people are hyped for Vietnam

[covert elbow]

This one’s worse then the 2023 roadmap lmao because we also didnt get the British until a year later

[covert elbow]

Ikr?

[pine ember]

G43 would have been better

[winter rover]

agreed

[covert elbow]

Like sure we’ve gotten everything on the last couple of roadmaps but that’s because there’s barely been anything on it

[wind shore]

This

[covert elbow]

Along with the shotgun

[pine ember]

"Oh Vietnam will be so much better"

No

[covert elbow]

There’s only 3 confirmed photos in the ETO and all of them are MP’s

[winter rover]

i admit, would rather have finland than vietnam

but italy above all

[covert elbow]

I’d rather have pacific

[winter rover]

ehhhhhhh

[pine ember]

Mamma mia

[covert elbow]

Yea Italy is the real answer

[winter rover]

Got squad 44 for pacific so I don't want it here

[covert elbow]

Go slogging through the mountains and the various towns and city’s

[marsh ore]

me too

finland or a pacific front

[azure heath]

Give me minigun or give me death

Hell Let Loose Ukraine

[jaunty mulch]

i kinda have a feeling that the support will move completely to vietnam and that the support for hll will be canceled when vietnam drops

[marsh ore]

that would be pretty cool

[azure heath]

Half the team just flying drones about

[marsh ore]

yeah but urban combat would be cool

[ionic cliff]

would be good if we can have AI singleplayer mode.

[azure heath]

Could always have Hell Let Loose Israel and make that go back for centuries

eh

[jaunty mulch]

Throw AI into the trash

[ionic cliff]

why is that

[azure heath]

Hell Let Loose US/Mexico Border

[slate canopy]

All right, let's not.

Ukraine, Israel and that was inappropriate.

[jaunty mulch]

because I want a product that was done by a human and actually has some value

[pine ember]

And Israel wasnt?

[azure heath]

Hell Let Loose Naboo

[slate canopy]

I just saw that, I added it.

I don't see EVERY message 😒

[pine ember]

But its the sad truth, in a few years we will get shooters set in Ukraine

[finite berry]

Meanwhile Squad adding Ukrainians lol

[pine ember]

HLL is set in Ukraine too

[covert elbow]

Let’s have HLL in the gulf war

And Korean War

[pine ember]

Blasphemie is something different

[covert elbow]

And Chinese civil war

[pine ember]

THAT would be cool

[azure heath]

Hell Let Loose is supposed to show the horrible things that happened and are happening in the world. Nothing is inappropriate bc it represents hell.

[wind shore]

Games should be based on history so nobody would gets hurts

[covert elbow]

And the falkan Islands

And the Russian civil war

[pine ember]

WW2 also hurts people

[covert elbow]

And the Russian Native Alaskan war of 1802-04

That would be balling

[slate canopy]

It should be based on history, NOT current events.

[ionic cliff]

i think you may have misinterpreted my suggestion. I was suggesting a singleplayer (i.e. you and AI vs AI) e.g. ravenfield style gamemode.

Not AI made game.

[wind shore]

I think nobody gets hurts much from history, history it’s history

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/i-know-what-you-are-cat-sus-suspicious-cat-side-eye-cat-meme-gif-11842087146493734807

[jaunty mulch]

ahhh then im sorry

[pine ember]

There isnt much difference

[finite berry]

I mean, and when does something turn from current to history? Asking that especially looking at Israel and the conflicts surrounding it since decades

[covert elbow]

We should have HLL based on the American civil war of 2027

[pine ember]

What you think is irrelevant, WW2 also hurts people

[finite berry]

Wait, how do you know there will be a civil war in 2027

[wind shore]

Think about what you’ve suggested

[covert elbow]

Political study

[pine ember]

What?

[pine ember]

Oh f

[wind shore]

I don’t want to continue this

[covert elbow]

Are you seriously expecting Kedo to be rational?

[pine ember]

I havent suggested anything

[azure heath]

Fine, Hell Let Loose 2020

[pine ember]

Nope, youre right

[slate canopy]

😐 Enough guys with the speculative versions.

[azure heath]

Where you fight Covid 19

[covert elbow]

Okay but like what about HLL based on WWI

You havnt thought of the possibility polar bear

What if we get like 5 more HLL games

[slate canopy]

🤦‍♀️ Jesus christ guys.

[pine ember]

Cant wait to use Chlorine gas

[covert elbow]

That’s sure to fix the series

[azure heath]

We haven’t broken a rule, let us cook

[covert elbow]

We just need more games right guys?

We need to franchise guys

[pine ember]

HLL 2025

[slate canopy]

Ya need a time out.

[azure heath]

If there are like 20 HLL games we can have like 1 server live in each

[pine ember]

HLL 2031

[finite berry]

HLL Emu War

[covert elbow]

You can’t stop the voice of the people

Did you actually put a 30 second timer on? That’s hilarious

[azure heath]

Revolt!

[wind shore]

I don’t hurt from WW2, or WW1, or Vietnam, or Afghan in games

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-rally-gif-16689274

[azure heath]

https://tenor.com/view/viva-la-revolution-gif-11760395

[pine ember]

There is no real difference between what happens now and what happened. War always hurt people. The debate should rather be: "Are war games at all ethical?"

[covert elbow]

This is far from the worst thing we’ve done in this chat. I thought 30s timers were reserved for updates. Guess I’m leaving them

[wintry thistle]

The answer is yes

[pine ember]

Others think different, live with that

[azure heath]

War games are anti-war. So if there’s a game on a modern conflict it will be against it.

[finite berry]

this

[wintry thistle]

People love experiencing suffering to varying degrees. Fiction or nonfiction

[pine ember]

Yea, it depends, if it portrays the war as anti war, then yes. Something like BFV wasnt anti-war

[azure heath]

The more realistic it is, the more anti war it becomes

[covert elbow]

BFV was its own monster. Still one of the worst launches and singleplayers I’ve ever seen. The only good one was Last Tiger because it treated WW2 with respect

[wintry thistle]

I don’t think war games are anti war, unless a effort is made to portray it as anti war

[pine ember]

Yes, it needs to give you that feeling "war is bad, always". Then I think it is ok. HLL does a good job on this

[azure heath]

If you portray war realistically it is anti war

[wintry thistle]

How so?

[pine ember]

Exactly, this war story was just different and how all should have been

[covert elbow]

Potraying war is in itself anti-war.

But if that portrayal makes light hearted fun like a lot for the 60’s and 70’s action films then it becomes muddled

[wintry thistle]

How is portraying war anti war?

[azure heath]

You see the gruesomeness and the inhumanly horrible things being portrayed.

[wintry thistle]

But can’t you portray those things and be neutral or even glorify them

[azure heath]

It’s really up to the player ig, but on average it will have that affect

is it effect?

[covert elbow]

This is a very strange conversation all of a sudden

[wintry thistle]

There’s plenty of realistic FPS game and strategy games, but I would never call them anti war

[azure heath]

Example?

[wintry thistle]

Red orchestra. Paradox interactive games

[covert elbow]

It gets in the players mind. For every “battlefield moment” where you blow up a helicopter with an RPG and see it explode there’s a voice in your mind saying “people actually did this?”

[past vortex]

ym hoi

[wintry thistle]

Yes but plenty of people would be ok with that happening

[azure heath]

Just think, would you want to be put in your character’s shoes?

[covert elbow]

And those people are called psychopaths and need to get mental help

[wintry thistle]

If it was necessary then yes

[azure heath]

But would you really want to?

[wintry thistle]

I was referencing more Europa universalis and Crusader kings

[azure heath]

Disregard forceful obligations by governing bodies

[covert elbow]

What

[wintry thistle]

I already answered the question

[wintry thistle]

What do you mean what

[azure heath]

If it was between life and death sure, but would you want to be an aggressor?

[wintry thistle]

No but most soldiers perceive their service as an act of self defense

[past vortex]

thats what they say afterwards

[wintry thistle]

Seldom do soldiers go to war as pure aggressors. They almost always believe they are acting in Defence of their country

[past vortex]

doubt

[azure heath]

But what happens in war ie consequences is something everyone can agree that we don’t want.

You don’t want to die, it’s a basic human mentality

[past vortex]

not universally true

[wintry thistle]

People want to defend the country. They don’t want enemies, but history is brutal there is usually some sort of enemy. And humans love to hate others for whatever reason

Humans have been going to war, killing each other in the hundreds of thousands since civilization has begun. It’s clearly an aspect of human life

[ionic cliff]

Eastern front could be seen as a defense of western values against eastern bolshevism

[past vortex]

lol

[covert elbow]

This is why America is the best and will never be the bad guys ever cause we’re the best and only defend our county cause we’re the best and the rest of you guys stink

[azure heath]

Okay, war is fine and let’s glorify it everywhere

[wintry thistle]

I mean plenty of soldiers are proud of their service

[covert elbow]

Uh:.. no? The eastern front was the Nazis wanting more living space and the eradication of communist ideas and the Soviet ideology

[past vortex]

not many are able to be rational about their losses

[finite berry]

It was more like against the Slavs in general.

[wintry thistle]

Humans aren’t rational

[azure heath]

You’re proud of living and doing what you set out to do, but when you don’t achieve it the losses are immeasurable

[slate canopy]

All right guys. This is the HLL chat, let's keep it to the game. 🙂

[past vortex]

not 100%, but its mostly a question if society wants it or not

[azure heath]

No this is a video game philosophy chat

[wintry thistle]

I think society wants it, if we don’t feel the effects

[slate canopy]

You can take your philosophical/ethical talk to #off-topic-mess-hall or to DMs.

[worthy charm]

Im gone 2 hours and you guys are that going crazy.

[past vortex]

how do you justify dismembering enemies with your shotgun :}

[azure heath]

wrong reply

[wind shore]

Okay, let’s ask others what they think

[finite berry]

people talk about HLL
"noo not about that, y'all need a time-out"
people talk about something else
"please talk about HLL instead"

:D

[pine ember]

America is the best

[covert elbow]

I don’t have access to that chat

[past vortex]

:D

[ionic cliff]

facts

[azure heath]

I need moderator perms

[covert elbow]

Real lmao. Also added on the 30s just for fun

[pine ember]

https://tenor.com/view/viva-la-revolution-gif-11760395

[covert elbow]

I’m becoming a moderator in May so I’ll give you it after I’m promoted

[wintry thistle]

I think for something to be anti war, it has to hinge on a pure emotional aspect

[azure heath]

In May? That’s insane.

[worthy charm]

Dont tempt me to make it a full minute.

[past vortex]

when gta6 comes out

[covert elbow]

This is a fact and anyone who says it isn’t is a communist or facist

[covert elbow]

Do it coward. Or are you chicken

[worthy charm]

Does you medical insurance even cover copium?

Gotta be expensive

[covert elbow]

🐔

[wind shore]

I don’t want say anything bad about America, cause we are allies now

[azure heath]

So let’s talk about ‘nam and shi-

[finite berry]

DAMN

[covert elbow]

2 world wars baby. 2-0 on y’all

[past vortex]

first sensible thing kedo ever said :O

[azure heath]

And they pick back up after both of em

[worthy charm]

More then that one you dont have.😆

Literally only that one

[covert elbow]

The hell it ain’t

[wind shore]

So I would say only positive things - we friendlies

[past vortex]

sure is

[wind shore]

Russia 🤝 America, forever

[pine ember]

What? USA and Russia arent allies

[past vortex]

did you miss that, ofc they are

[azure heath]

Alaska happened

Ninja seems like that random firefighter that got a motorcycle for free from Putin

[worthy charm]

Are you guys for real questioning what kedo says? Im unemployed, but would bothen even now... :}

[past vortex]

alaska followed by the long range thing afterwards
ther is no doubt

[pine ember]

Sadly

[covert elbow]

Yea, and it went horrible. It’s politics so of course I’m not getting into it but just because President dum dum doesn’t want the files released does not mean Russian and America are Allie’s. Keep out of my country Ruskie.

And now I take my ban I guess

[azure heath]

No, that wasn’t political, that was your emotional response

[wind shore]

No, friend!!! Please don’t leave me

[past vortex]

you will learn to supress those heritcal thoughts soon

[worthy charm]

I will consider it...👀

[covert elbow]

Born to dilly dally, forced to fight facists

[pine ember]

You arent friends

[covert elbow]

I know at least one of the moderators is going to try and get me banned lmao

[azure heath]

As an American I have nothing against the Russian populous, that’s safe to say

[wind shore]

I’m friendly to everybody

[past vortex]

*no one

[wind shore]

Are you? I thought you were from the UK, aren’t you?

[covert elbow]

You and me are absolutely not friends. The day you and me become friends is the day I get a lobotomy

[worthy charm]

Isnt that the same? Lololol

[wind shore]

No, it’s different UK, and US

[glossy ridge]

Is the new vietnam an extension or a whole new game ?

[azure heath]

Nope, New York. I have an multi international background though

[past vortex]

new game

[worthy charm]

New game

[azure heath]

Let’s talk Vietnam! 🇻🇳 🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳

[past vortex]

new game

[covert elbow]

#base-camp

[azure heath]

We can talk about it in the general i think

[slate canopy]

We have specific chat for Vietnam stuff. Please use.

[past vortex]

yea take the vietnam stuff to where the other traitors are

[covert elbow]

I mean probably, but you’ll get more responses there.

I’m more wanting to get th bayonets, mortars, MG emplacements and all the other goodies in HLL:WW2

[azure heath]

I hate this. Why is there a franchise and I can’t talk about it in the general chat, it’s not like it’s in a Hell Let Loose section it’s just in Community

[glossy ridge]

Do we know the release date ? is it new engine graphicly ?

[azure heath]

Is there going to be another HLL V discord or something, I thought this was for the franchise

[worthy charm]

New game!!!

[past vortex]

ue5, allegedly 2026

[azure heath]

Game

[worthy charm]

!!!Emag

[azure heath]

Ġæmę

[worthy charm]

Gäme

[past vortex]

G̶̊̄̓̚ă̴̏̐́m̴̆́̐͒e̵͑̍͘͝

[azure heath]

Spiel

[winter rover]

vietnam.. boo

[worthy charm]

Thats the worst one

[gentle lintel]

It will be a game

[past vortex]

man sagt ja immer "gs, einfach besitz"

[wind shore]

It would be a few DLC for Vietnam ?

[glossy ridge]

ty

[cosmic pilot]

this is false

[empty steppe]

Ah you scared me

[cosmic pilot]

ah ahh ah

[proven knoll]

Graphic drivers updated?

[empty steppe]

T17 sabotaged the game so that Vietnam will have more hype

[gentle lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-charlie-day-crazy-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-qanon-gif-23738584

[polar prism]

This game needs a vehicle move feature like in Squad 44

[wind shore]

[glossy ridge]

Is community TAA the best one to use in 1080p ?

[slate canopy]

Yes.

[glossy ridge]

thank you

I dont know but i felt my game look bland, like a lot white

I cannot share screenshot of my settings there sadly

[slate canopy]

You can in #1271718922734796865 or #off-topic-mess-hall

[glossy ridge]

Thank you

[supple cedar]

Whos the best server hosting platform for console?

[slate canopy]

https://www.hellletloose.com/server-rentals/ These are a list from HLL who provide hosting. There may be others, but at least it's a solid list.

Some may be PC only, just so you know.

[cyan saddle]

Would be a good question to ask in the server hosting discord
https://discord.gg/bhAfvwJPWw

[supple cedar]

Joined and submitted an application as i own a server and am looking for feedback on some things

[half dune]

Can’t wait for the sweaty Huey pilots in HLL Vietnam

[wind shore]

“they’ll run out of fрcking bullets before we run out of bodies”

[pallid thunder]

Is there an area to post for server seeding?

[slate canopy]

#console-seeding-help

[lunar vortex]

Hey has anyone else been encountering stutter on stalingrad? So far no issues when playing the game on other maps, even on the same server.

[fossil cradle]

hi, im ney and i need help

i cant play

The game stays in the queue for a server for too long even on an empty server, to the point that it ends up changing maps

[lunar vortex]

Are running on an HDD or SSD?

[fossil cradle]

SSD

[lunar vortex]

Hmmm. And windows/drivers all up to date?

[fossil cradle]

It can't be the components, because my PC is somewhat new and is in pretty good condition.

[fossil cradle]

everything is up to date

It's the game, in no other does it make me wait so long.

[lunar vortex]

I would try verifying game files. After that my next best guess would be your local network is causing connection issues

[fossil cradle]

That must be it, if not, I have no idea

[lunar vortex]

Same, you can try forwarding the ports for the game, idk what they are, could also be your ISP. You can double check that by using a VPN

[slate canopy]

Time synced to internet?

[lunar vortex]

I would think windows update would be popping out errors if it was time, but not a bad idea

[fossil cradle]

I tried and nothing, Maybe the ports thing is a good idea, I should see what's up

[fossil cradle]

yes

[fossil cradle]

There is no error, I uninstalled, tried VPN and still nothing

[slate canopy]

Clear your download cache, verify integrity, and try again?

[lunar vortex]

Did you forward the ports within windows?

I would think the reinstall would fix that

But possible firewall rules aren't being made

[fossil cradle]

how to clear the download cache?

[fossil cradle]

nope

[lunar vortex]

I would do what polar recommended. After that I would try port forwarding

[fossil cradle]

I will

porque tengo los huevos llenos ya

[nova pivot]

Jajaja

[fossil cradle]

es que si

23 dolares como un forro me gaste

para que mi tiempo jugado en steam es de solo querer meterse a jugar y no poder

[nova pivot]

Es buen juego, ojalá puedas solucionar el problema porque la verdad que si merece la pena

[fossil cradle]

siempre le tuve ganas, ahora que puedo permitirme jugar y que no me deje

es una paja

estuve jugando squad, no está mal, pero no es lo que quiero

[slate canopy]

Settings -> Downloads -> Clear Cache button

Then verify integrity after.

[vagrant shale]

is HLL: vietnam out yet?

[slate canopy]

Stop asking. It says 2026.

[vagrant shale]

it ws my first time asking today

just excited

[slate canopy]

Glad you're excited, but it was just announce last week 😅 And we still have 4 months until even January 2026.

[candid mason]

I don't understand how they will determine victory conditions in Vietnam. The Vietcong basically never won a battle but the Americans left defeated.

[slate canopy]

The basegame will be the same for warfare and offensive.

[vagrant shale]

llol

[night lark]

VC just need to wait for the americans team to tap out because of the bugs and loudout glitches

[static monolith]

You know. I wonder how much they'll be able to do with Vietnam as compared to WW2

I mean they can include France and China yeah? Cambodia and Loas were both hotspots in that time period yeah? Maybe they could even weasle in the Korean War?

[dusk drum]

can a light tank take damage from rocket launcher on front armour

[worthy charm]

Not with a bazooka, piat/panzerschreck can do it.

[dusk drum]

bruh ok thx

[worthy charm]

I may guide you, to the book the great father created

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1284762788488544266

[static monolith]

I wonder how good a tactic spamming light tanks would be

[heady escarp]

I'd say so. But I guess Herr knows more.

However I would swear American bazooka can destroy light tank German

[worthy charm]

Depends on the Nation, could be great with the US cause zur Stuart is the best light tank. I think its fine with soviets and british and horrible with the germans.

Luchs by far the worst light tank, its not even close.

[solar slate]

Luchs should at least be nimble and carry loads of ammo to compensate for being a machinegun on wheels

[worthy charm]

It should get more splash on HE and APCR rounds to pen other tanks in the engine.

[lost shuttle]

Any plans to fix the level glitch ?

On console you can not unlock the level throphies anymore since June 25

[thorn gate]

Is there a PC or console competition in the EU. I can find premiere league and winter league in America

[slate canopy]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1273956824491491349

Should have most of the known leagues.

[thorn gate]

Thank you brother

[tidal ravine]

So.. i open a ticket, i send my message, dont get a reply and then the ticket is closed due to inactivity??

[azure heath]

Thanks to whomever switched this channel from community to hell let loose it was very confusing

however i see ww2 history but no nam history

[lavish sparrow]

you gotta unselect and reselect the history role.

[lavish sparrow]

China?
But no. I think there is a lot of value in being able to focus in on a more limited war.

Lets them dig into the details and refine the balance, aesthetics, and whatnot.

For example, if HLLV wanted to do, say, tank interiors in an update, its gonna be much more practical for them to add that to two tanks instead of HLL's 20 or so

[tidal ravine]

France v Vietnam is pretty much set a decade before the real Vietnam war that the game will be based around, which will require completely new set of firearms, locations, character models.. pretty much a completely new set of everything. It's possible, just not likely anything soon

China is a hard no
Cambodia and Laos also a no

Korean war is something completely different as well. Different part of war, different era, different place entirely, different countries

[hidden meteor]

When we get banned from a server in the game, does it say ‘you have been banned’ or ‘you have been kicked’?

[lavish sparrow]

I notice some people have a habit of lumping the entire cold war together as if its ww2 or ww1

[tidal ravine]

Yep, though i suppose this game is focussed on the US presence in Vietnam part of the war

i.e. 1963 - 1975

though more likely 1963 - 1973

74 and 75 US had very little presence left

[winter rover]

When does vietnam come out?

[pine ember]

2026

[grizzled kiln]

[lavish sparrow]

I do wonder if HLLV will lock the weapons to time periods since
a) vietnam is a much wider timeframe and
b) since there are less factions, variants like that could be easier to convey and remember

[tidal ravine]

I hope it has a campaign gamemode like RS2, where the battles are more themed per year

[lavish sparrow]

I dont think HLL can do a campaign gamemode when matches take up to an hour and a half

but some simple subfactions like "US, Early" and "US, Late" woud be great

[mystic rain]

hi im new xd

[cosmic pilot]

Erm, this is HLL chat

Strictly NO discussion of hllv here

Why do I have to do the mods job smh

[tidal ravine]

I mean, RS2 matches can also take a good hour

[lavish sparrow]

thats on the longer end though, while in HLL thats standard.

[cosmic pilot]

NO discussion of RS either

[tidal ravine]

I guess, idk
will have to see how the game develops

i do like the idea though of limited weapon choices based on year

[tidal ravine]

backseat modding much huh

[cosmic pilot]

[lavish sparrow]

Not only backseat modding but telling me to go to a channel that doesnt exist

[cosmic pilot]

I am the master modder

[tidal ravine]

is that like a DnD title or..? I don't know, it doesn't say much to me

[gentle lintel]

modder alt spec

[wind shore]

Ben B hello! Would be some news on Wednesday?

Is it coming new map before the release of Stalingrad rework, or is it coming after release?

@fluid pawn Ben B hello! Would be some news on Wednesday?

Is it coming new map before the release of Stalingrad rework, or is it coming after release?

I’m so existed to wait and I’m waiting it

[fossil cradle]

I tried and nothing

[hearty coyote]

Goood afternoon @everyone

[slate canopy]

Verified integrity after that?

[wind shore]

https://insider-gaming.com/hell-let-loose-vietnam-hands-on-preview-jungle-warfare-has-never-been-this-immersive-in-a-video-game/

[thin lotus]

AI-tier

[past vortex]

freshbak mentioned that too
seems strange that the journalist got to play just one life

[thin lotus]

"hands-on" is 100% clickbait. A bot wrote this

[past vortex]

as i said, freshbak thinks it real

[pine ember]

Hmm

Maybe its AI

[echo karma]

Lol you know who Tom is right?

[vagrant shale]

is HLL: vietnam out yet today?

dont ban me

pls

[vagrant shale]

bro ur not gonna be able to see anyone

[wind shore]

I don’t know who is it

[cosmic pilot]

Hllv one life confirmed.
You die once the game uninstalls

[oak current]

"People kept asking for realism"

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/jeremy-clarkson-sometimes-my-genius-almost-frightening-driving-car-ride-gif-16463163

T17 infinite money glitch

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-bus-stop-angry-shouting-gif-5144560278104615828

[vagrant shale]

ummm just a few more times sir

until HLL: vietnam comes out'

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/not-funny-haha-not-funny-hahaha-evil-laugh-laughing-gif-10643785047003971734

-# I think I depleted my gif limit for today... Im gonna stop now.

[lost shuttle]

When comes the next patch

[gentle sentinel]

hll is crashing on me and it's driving me nuts. I'm not sure what to do about it.

[worthy charm]

Are you console or PC?

[gentle sentinel]

pc win 11. I'm considering running the sfc scan, i've tried reinstalling the game and giving the exe admin rights.

[worthy charm]

Go into the game setting, change to DX11 and restart the game.

Worked wonders for me

[gentle sentinel]

Well the game launches and crashes so i can't get to the in game settings.

But I might be able to do that through the nvidia control panel.

[worthy charm]

Nah ok😅

[worthy charm]

I had an issue with lol that the nividia overlay crashed my game on start... but I dont think thats the issue here.😅
If you ask in #1271718922734796865 smarter minds than I will help you.

[solar slate]

I wonder if you could actually kill the person by killing them ingame how many would still do it

[slate canopy]

... Let's not discuss that 😅

[past vortex]

how does it crash
just ctd?
launch option -dx11 if you want to try that

[gentle sentinel]

#1271718922734796865 message i'll flag dx11 next as flagging dx12 didn't change anything.

[wind shore]

What about the game

[nova pivot]

It is dead 🥺

[wind shore]

NO

it’s NOT, BUT IT WILL INCREASE PLAYER COUNT WITH NEW UPDATES

Like to 25.000+ again

[worthy charm]

Actually the steam Player did you up now, after the HLLV Trailer.

Crazy player logic

[wind shore]

It’s 60% discount

[gentle sentinel]

i'm very dissapointed that their announcement for the vietnam project said that 50v50 is large scale.

[wind shore]

so why it was increased not HLLV, HLLV would have own online and player count

[gentle sentinel]

Where is my 256 player sized maps?

[wind shore]

I hope it would be increased in future games

[gentle sentinel]

This was the entire point behind battlebit remastered.

256 has been possible since tribes 2 days.

[past vortex]

it seems some even bought it, funny

[worthy charm]

256 is faaar to much, maps would need to be 3 times bigger. Not even to start about Server Performance or that people already complain about HLL being a walking Simulator.

[wind shore]

I think no, this is good size for the player count of 256 players, not 3X of course

Maybe 1.5X or 2X it WOULD, be FINE!

[worthy charm]

Bf2042 showed well how more isnt straight up better and more people would definitly change the Hll identity.

[wind shore]

I HOPE and I’ve heard that GTA 6 would allow more players count cause they use modern technologies

https://tenor.com/view/gta-6-gta-vi-gta-vi-6-gif-13381247013999541289

Imagine this

[worthy charm]

There already are players everywhere always. So if you more than double the map, it would need to get bigger more than double as well.

[wind shore]

You will live in Vice City

[wind shore]

But I think it’s empty

WHAT do you think ABOUT GTA 6 online? Would it be the same as GTA Online

[worthy charm]

Just go into a pub match and look at the map, you either got one huge area where everyone is or they are everywhere on the map.

[worthy charm]

Who cares about a game that comes out in over a year and probably gets delayed for the 500th time, especially after they want to do a console release first.

[wind shore]

Not really, it seems too unrealistic when Americans pushing the beach only in 1 sector. Why is whole map is empty they fighting only for the wheat mill on Kursk? If they can flank them with out losses and reach and capture their HQ

the frontline is not from corner to corner

[gentle sentinel]

it's the mechanized infantry and it's what i want.

what if an armor platoon actually escorts trucks to the front?

[worthy charm]

The Story sure will be good, but a pc release one year after first release means I already know the Story anyway, so why bother.

[wind shore]

I want to play it on Xbox and PS

And on PC of course after

[gentle sentinel]

also with a map that big, tell me you don't have something for spg's to do

[wind shore]

But I don’t like it

PC is not for GTA games

[gentle sentinel]

i hate nerfing pc games to fit onto consoles.

[worthy charm]

That sounds cool, but would never work with the current HLL community, you cant even get up a working garrison network in half the matches.

[worthy charm]

All big Companys release their games on Steam these days, its simply the biggest market with most people. Hell even BF6 ditched their external launcher via steam cause people maybe wouldnt buy the game because of it.

[gentle sentinel]

amazing a game about team work needs more work on team working.

[wind shore]

I don’t want to play BF6 I’m not fan of series. But it doesn’t include Russian language and it’s like for others maybe not adopted. I would play HLLV with out language or not

[past vortex]

they want to capture more causual players too
the amount of hradcore team players is really limited

[worthy charm]

Ey, im not a pro at the game but I knof that much.😅
I dont think im wrong tho with how about everyone plays this game its not something possible.

Maybe HLLV will have it better with helis and tunnels, so bigger maps make sense.

Either way, I highly doubt more players are worth it even with bigger maps.

[gentle sentinel]

needs more tanks.

[past vortex]

would be nice but its ever more unlikely to work out

more players with big maps would need even more coord

[gentle sentinel]

J. Jonah Jameson slams desk! I don't want excuses I want more photo's of spider man!

[wind shore]

Would you PLAY GTA 6?

[worthy charm]

#mess-hall message

[wind shore]

How do you know the story of GTA6?

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-sigh-gif-5895699729383201961

[wind shore]

I would play: COD,HLL, GTA6, Minecraft, HLLV, and also RDR

[worthy charm]

You know if it releases, before I can play it myself. Its means that I:
A: watch a playthrough
B: or get spoilered because of friend or the Internet.

So following this logic, when the Story it whats cool about the game and I already know the story, why would I still pay 80€ or more?

[wind shore]

Gameplay

[worthy charm]

Rockstar games never got that cool gameplay in my opinion. Maybe a few cool missions where you need to be sneaky or need to race someone, but in the end it always boils down to shoot that guy until he dead.

That aint worth 80€ honestly, I probably would have more fun with just buying Hll dlcs for the money.

[wind shore]

Agreed

[thorny mica]

On top of the fact it'll be oversized af like 300gb

[worthy charm]

I can live with that barrely, but yes that a point as well.

[wind shore]

If you remember I told you that I expand 25 TB

• on consoles

[alpine remnant]

I've been trying to get into this game for ages but nearly every server I've been on people aren't coordinating and hardly talk, is there any specific ones I should join or avoid?

[nova pivot]

All the new games are like that

They don't want us to play other games

[nova pivot]

The community servers with level limits are usually the best

[wind shore]

Roadmap 2026 when?

[slate canopy]

Sometime next year.

[wind shore]

I hope it wouldn’t be the great ocean wave and whole planet wouldn’t became just water until next year?

And we could play HLLV and other things and games like GTA 6

Big tsunami in 2026 before all releases

[vague thunder]

Is this community pretty active?

[true orchid]

IS 7.25 KD GOOD?

whats conidered a good kd in this game

[covert elbow]

If your not 100-1 then don’t even play the game

[slate canopy]

Ignore Ninja lol

[slate canopy]

It's pretty good. I wouldn't worry too much since it's not really based on KDA to win. It's map space to win.

[true orchid]

ah gotchua thank you ❤️

[covert elbow]

Should have put the /s

[bleak geyser]

is anyone willing to show me how to play the game properly, i suck and have no idea what im doing lol

[covert elbow]

#new-recruit-barracks will give you a better shot along with joining a unit

[bleak geyser]

ok thank you

[covert elbow]

Np

[wind shore]

When HLL Vietnam would be? Is it in March?

I meant set

1965 OR as I understand it’s based more wider

It were snow in Vietnam?

[echo karma]

I will not be paying 80$ for hll vietnam

[wind shore]

Is it officially announced the price?

[echo karma]

Likely they'll price high. They bumped the hll price up 10$ shortly after they acquired

[wind shore]

Would be discounts anyways

80$ for enchanted edition?

If so I think it’s ok if it comes with extra additional content

[brisk garnet]

Hate to break it to you but you’re not going to pay less than $80 for any new video game moving forward unless it’s an indie game

[echo karma]

Certified cash grab

[brisk garnet]

It’s a joke under the guise of inflation

[night lark]

TF17 havent alluded to the cost of HLL V and its dumb speculating. (Also CD Keys or Games Keys exist)

[heady escarp]

I really wonder what do they mean with tank overhaul

Will the Puma be able to destroy Shermans? He actually should be totally capable...

[oak current]

well, so far its this: https://www.hellletloose.com/blog/dev-brief-207-armour-rework
But more to come

[pine ember]

When HLL Yugoslavia?

[nova pivot]

I would prefer Finland tbh

Btw devbrief tomorrow or nah?

[cosmic pilot]

My bet is $50-60

[pine ember]

Hopefully

[clear mica]

I'd pay that as long as it doesn't crash as much as it does now

[worthy charm]

Thats the most realistic price to be honest. It wont be less then 50€ but no way they go over 60€. 70€ would be very expensive.

[vast ether]

There’s always cdkeys if it gets put on there eventually

[gentle lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/alan-rickman-control-your-emotions-harry-potter-snape-gif-9114352

[broken shoal]

front reddit page is all vietnam. MAN I DONT CARE

we should be getting a new patch already

[hasty ore]

fingers crossed the rework makes it harder for people to solo tank. Tired(treaded?) of a locked armor squad of 1 just sitting in a semi-useless location being of very little help

[polar prism]

Poland and Italy

[worthy charm]

Japan

[tall kettle]

https://i.imgur.com/oqjthtn.png

[nova pivot]

Did you just use the bot again yourself?

[worthy charm]

Nooooooo

[craggy lily]

returning player after 3 years, hope I can remember how to play the game (properly)

[worthy charm]

-# Its to much fun sry

[gentle lintel]

japan was mentioned, not the p-word

[nova pivot]

I think it's just when the topic comes up. No need to say the p-word

[pine ember]

https://tenor.com/view/alphabet-lore-mike-salcedo-alphabet-letter-p-alphabet-lore-p-gif-27200396

[oak current]

Spacific

[lost shuttle]

Leveling throphy still not works

[nova pivot]

That's the last thing on the list of problems.

[lost shuttle]

Everything’s else works

[hasty ore]

specifically the Pacific? That's spiffy.

[oak current]

nono, Space Pacific

[hasty ore]

oh that's terrific, Space Pacific is pretty specific.

[wind shore]

Wednesday tomorrow

[hasty ore]

you're really good at knowing the days of the week

[wind shore]

No tomorrow Ben is coming

I have to ask when would be new map

[vagrant shale]

i have a question

[wind shore]

Which question

[vagrant shale]

will there be monkeys in HLL: vietnam?

like up in the trees and stuff

would be kinda fun to shoot them imo

[pine ember]

Why do people always have to shoot everything?

[vagrant shale]

i can never shoot ppl in HLL

[finite berry]

Let's hope there aren't

[vagrant shale]

so it would be nice to shoot some monkeys from time to time

[finite berry]

No

Plot twist, the monkey got already added 🪞

[pine ember]

Then practice it

[wind shore]

Monkeys

[pine ember]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-driving-driver-monkey-driver-baby-driver-gif-6995391073890250244

[wind shore]

Play MG

[pine ember]

MG is almost useless unless you Play the Germans

[wind shore]

Are you monkey? @vagrant shale

[wind shore]

Agreed

[pine ember]

And even then a skilled player can achieve much more with a rifle and hes more flexible

[wind shore]

Create suggestion

[past vortex]

korea

[worthy charm]

Irak/Iran

[cosmic pilot]

Afghanistan

[past vortex]

irak-iran war would be something new :O

[pine ember]

Modern day

Jugoslavia 90s

[past vortex]

last bajonet charge, the french at those bridge :}

[wind shore]

HLL battle of Bawaria

[finite berry]

HLL Nordderby

[wind shore]

HLL Battle of village

[pine ember]

Bavaria would be a bit odd

HLL 2025

[wind shore]

it was no battle in Bavaria?

[pine ember]

There were some, but it was Not that fought on as other places

[wind shore]

HLL battle for pink STG

[rotund spoke]

How can i join the Bob The Builder server?

[past vortex]

you pay them for the privilege to grind

[winter rover]

yes! YES!

But not Poland, Italy yes

[pine ember]

Poland please

[vagrant shale]

are you asking if i am a monkey

[pine ember]

He is

[vagrant shale]

not far off tbh

[rare finch]

Anyone else having issues with tanks on elsenbrone ridge?

Every bump or piece of wood I go over I ALWAYS get stuck.

[slate canopy]

Gotta watch the road and take them at angles to less likely get stuck

[tall kettle]

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• EAC Notifications
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[slate canopy]

Our favorite day of the weeeeek

[untold solstice]

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[stuck jackal]

When is Team17 going to get rid of safari Jack Black on the menu screen?

[wind shore]

When would be new map

When would be new map? Probably this year

New update would have 100% menu title from the next map

No

[vale crown]

BIG XP FARMING

AT BOB THE BUILDER SERVER 😄

[wind shore]

No

[pine ember]

Why do you answer then?

[wind shore]

I don’t want to play this server

[vale crown]

its a really fun server, you guys should join we are not a lot right now sadly

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-13597132752790194338

[tall kettle]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE NOW ENDING** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Steam maintenance has now ended but some issues may still remain until a game restart

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[wind shore]

I haven’t gotten a Stalingrad map for months

[past vortex]

played it today and it did lag as badly as everyone says

[wind shore]

I wish we were able to choose our maps and sides instead of being thrown into one map and having to get out and get back in over and over and over again every time I try

It’s annoying and frustrating and repetitive

I have to get discord nitro

[wind shore]

Why?

To do a lot of suggestions

I need no limits to post more photos

Damn

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1343025977319751741 look how many photos I’ve posted

It taken me 2X time with out nitro, or if not 3X

That’s a whole bunch of photos tho

Yes 500+

[dense shell]

Question is anyone else having issues unlocking some achievements, I’m on Xbox career level 59 but I’m missing the achievements for career level 35, 40, and 50. I sent a support ticket and the response was we will look into it, this problem to my understanding has been around for 2 years.

[wind shore]

Ask support, keep asking

When you don’t silent and ask they possibly will answer

Cause maybe they forgot cause they have a lot of tickets

[past vortex]

:}

[dense shell]

Should I make another support ticket or should I email them directly?

[wind shore]

On official Team 17 website

Yes, you should open a new ticket

[flat crest]

Why is it so hard to find games now where people use their mics or play the objective instead of running off into the middle of nowhere by themselves, I feel like the game was never like this before I just started playing again since last year

[slate canopy]

You playing on official or community servers?

[flat crest]

Both, I spend 70% of my time in this game just looking for a game where people are talking and not getting absolutely steamrolled with no spawns or resources

[past vortex]

play only at prime time on select community servers

[slate canopy]

Community >>>> official

[flat crest]

Yeah I've come to realize that, I just feel like it was never this bad in all my time playing, I've been trying to play all week and no lie I've found maybe 2 games with people playing how it used to be, fun voice comm chaos, tactics, playing objectives

[slate canopy]

Have you gone back to that server?

[flat crest]

Full constantly

[past vortex]

dont let that deter you

takes max 10 minutes to get in a full server

[flat crest]

I feel like locking squads shouldn't be a feature, I feel like it's way too common to have like 3-4 squads a game that are just 1-3 people locked, then im forced to make a squad by myself cause every other squad is full

[errant bronze]

1 man locked tank crew

[flat crest]

Yeah that kinda stuff too

[past vortex]

thats a kick

[slate canopy]

I have no issue with locked squads... except when it's clearly only like 5 people waiting for a squad, and one squad is 2/6 and 3/6. Let us in lol

[errant bronze]

panzer pulls up to the function with 1 man inside, loading the shells all by himself and driving such piece of machinery by himself

[past vortex]

well its annoying but if those squads were not there you would also have to mae your own

[errant bronze]

I've always had to end up playing as SL, no issue tho it was chill

Take one for the team and create a new squad

[flat crest]

Yeah but the issue is that I can make my own but theres nobody left to join it so Im just stuck in a solo squad

[slate canopy]

I won't always want to play Squad Lead 😢

[errant bronze]

Sacrifices have to be made, I wanted to play AT and that's how i ended 🥲

[slate canopy]

Yeah, I'll usually suck it up.

[errant bronze]

Wanted to test my new satchels out, and had to end up yelling in comms with a pocket watch on my hand

[slate canopy]

As for the whole comms part - I'll switch squads or make my own if I don't find squads with mics, and require it with the 🎙️ selected.

As for servers... I just play whatever community has openings and less than 150 ping lol I'm not super picky. I usually have good luck finding squads.

[past vortex]

just play servers that require mic

[slate canopy]

Please share your videos in #hll-videos

[analog apex]

I know this may look like old news, but... am I having a tough luck or are you guys noticing as well that the quality of the PUB matches (because of the quality of the players) has gotten even worse in the past few months?

I have been recently literally being forced to play as an SL more and more, just because I know that if I for example take Support, my SL won't be reacting to me and/or won't be building any/good OPs. Taking other nonSL class is asking for a defeat. When SL-ing, I barely get any (if any) talking players even when kicking the nonComms out of the squad. To a point I sometimes think my VoIP is down... but when I check and confirm it is all good on my end.

Yesterday a halftrack gets positioned, just for a Sniper to take it as his own right afterwards. The Sniper manages to get TKeyed by another SL to save the halftrack and in less than a minute an Engineer takes the same halftrack away and wastes it... it's been like herding the cats lately. Not to mention that the players play like oblivious sheep to a point I haven't seen before. And garries built 5m into the redzone so much...

I tried playing on LVL 75+ restricted servers but it's not too much better there either. In any case even a greater weight is being put on the few experienced/veteran individuals that carry the team and if there are just like 4 such people more in one or the other team, that team wins. Recently I have been getting frustrated because of the stupid/mute/oblivious players way more than I used to and I am not having much fun almost at all... we are slowly but surely getting from very bad state, to a way worse one.

And the tutorial system for HLL:WWII still not anywhere on the horizon while the new HLL:V gets it straight away 🤬 ?! One can be inexperienced, stupid, mute or oblivious, but if there was a mandatory tutorial system, they would be at least bound to know the basics and ensure the match won't go as badly at least up to some probability.

And don't even want me to mention the bugs/problems that are not being fixed for ages that just deepen the frustration even more especially when combined. After all the veterans that left the game, maybe I am finally reaching my (very tolerant!)** limits too... idk** - because I feel like being pushed away from the game just by the game itself and by the superb low quality of the players and matches. I know... it's been bad before too, but srlsy now it feels like it's becoming unbearable and maybe I am rly approaching my breaking point...

[pine ember]

Then do Not answer

[pine ember]

Suggestions are already flooded

[wind shore]

Yes and would be flooded more with different towns

[pine ember]

Suggestions aren’t Only for new town maps

[wind shore]

At least I can make challenge and post 3.000+ photos of different towns of WW2 era

I doubt that I can make 30.000+

But there are 100.000+ Eastern front photos of cities

[pine ember]

And you want to Post them all?

Good luck

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/grass-gif-6112271

[pine ember]

After the new map released they should give the British some more love and then make a rural Eastern Front map

Urban combat wasn’t that common on the Eastern Front until the Soviets moved into Hungary, Poland and Germany

[analog apex]

[wonders] What is that green mass? Where did I see it I wonder... Ah! Right, I have seen it outdoors when I was outside few years ago the latest time 😄 .

[nova pivot]

Juno... 🥺

[wind shore]

We need battle of Naples

[pine ember]

What we need is Finland

[nova pivot]

Caen, Arnhem or a Ardennes map would be more fitting

[pine ember]

First western front and North Africa

[nova pivot]

Fact🤝

[pine ember]

Italy after that

[analog apex]

The question is though... does the game need it? 😏

[pine ember]

It does

[analog apex]

why

[nova pivot]

Yes lol, easy as fck question

[pine ember]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-if-you-love-finland-finland-i-love-finland-scream-finland-finland-scream-gif-496655312649171179

[pine ember]

Because we need it

[analog apex]

😄 😏

[pine ember]

No, seriously now, I think it would be a good front to add which is underrepresented in media

[nova pivot]

We (skullhem, panzergrenadier and me)

[pine ember]

It would feature some interesting maps, weapons,…

And would give a relatively unknown conflict a chance to get more known

It’s David vs Goliath

[analog apex]

how many maps though? And how large? The devs mentioned only smaller maps in relation to the Finnish back then.

Small maps are not worth it and such a faction is not worth it therefore.

[nova pivot]

Hope they scrapped that

[finite berry]

1:1, naturally

Silly question 😄

[pine ember]

Normal map size, I think two for now would be perfect

[analog apex]

2 maps is not a reason to make a new faction

[pine ember]

They scrapped the idea of smaller maps and mentioned that the Finnish if they will get added will get the normal map size

[wind shore]

Scream if you love all former Soviet republics!

[pine ember]

Brits and Soviets also had 2 at release

[nova pivot]

🦗

[pine ember]

I won’t

[analog apex]

rly? Nice then. But in that case they can't do any of it before the British and Soviets gets at least 12 maps together.

at the very! least

[pine ember]

Yes, that should be priority

[wind shore]

Scream if you love painting!

[pine ember]

But after that, please Finland

[wind shore]

Scream if you love ice cream!

[analog apex]

ok, just 8 years for the 2 first Finnish maps to go 😄

[pine ember]

Sadly

[wind shore]

Scream if you like sushi 🍱

https://tenor.com/view/yugoslavia-republics-former-scream-you-gif-17380430729311301414

[pine ember]

Lagoda map for the eastern front could be cool

[wind shore]

We need the lake map Ladoga and Volkhov

[pine ember]

Volkhov is a river

But yes, rural taiga map please

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/taiwan-scream-if-you-love-taiwan-scream-love-gif-5686952073512070630

[wind shore]

And swamps to drown

Scream if you love new players!

[wind shore]

You would

Cause if you became pioneer in USSR, you should love them

[wind shore]

They could make a map like in War Thunder and run 50 tanks on it, and a few infantry

And expand player count if it’s possible to 400+ players to create massive battlefield

[analog apex]

I am not sure that's possible considering how detailed the maps are in FPS shooters (HLL especially) and how many actions need to be tracked by the server... comparing to games like WT or WoT.

[wind shore]

descriptions would be better

And player count increase and map size, vehicles, planes, parachuting

[analog apex]

But for a large WWII battlefield, there is WWII: Online, however that looks like 20 old graphic (although they are slowly working on moving to UE5).

No idea how they mean to include the 1000 players tbh.

[wind shore]

I have to go

[analog apex]

See ya then 🙂 . I will be leaving this afternoon too and be back not sooner than Sunday evening/afternoon.

[vivid temple]

@fluid pawn When will the PTE come?

[analog apex]

What do you mean? There was one like 1,5 week ago.

[wind shore]

He meant about new map

[pine ember]

What?

[wind shore]

And SPA

[wind shore]

You would love to be USSR guy which is working on small factory and getting money every month and car for free

[analog apex]

Well, if SPAs/new map are coming in U19 and we haven't got U18 released yet, the U19 PTE can't be any sooner than U18 release.

Asking about an U19 PTE at this time is irrelevant yet.

here's the man!

[fluid pawn]

Is this for armour or the new map?

[wind shore]

Both! 🙏

[fluid pawn]

What Sam said basically ahah

[wind shore]

And new map and SPA, cause I’ve heard SPA coming together with the new map

So it means both in that case if it’s 1 large update and 1 PTE

[wind shore]

@vivid temple

[fluid pawn]

I'll get details on PTEs soon. Had last couple days off and last week was purely focused on the HLLV announce. Back on HLL this week though with U18 coming up next ❤️

[vivid temple]

btw, Can we get any new factions next year?

[wind shore]

Thanks!

And when would be any roadmap 2026? Is it in 2026?

I meant when it would be ready of course

[fluid pawn]

2026 roadmap is in the development atm. Can't share details yet though as I'm sure you can expect

[analog apex]

Any idea if HLL will be renamed to HLL:WWII? The thing is now when someone mentions HLL, the other party asks... which one 😄 ? (or are you T17 guys saving that title for some future WWII game that could come after 😏 ?)

[fluid pawn]

No plans at this moment to rename HLL to HLL WW2

[wind shore]

So it comes PTE news before Stalingrad release or no

I meant, news would come before U18

About U19

[analog apex]

more like after U18 because the new map and SPAs are U19 topics

[wind shore]

I understand PTE U19 coming after release of U18. But news could be in this period of time between U17-U18 release

[wind shore]

Ok Sam thanks

So and when could be update U18

[analog apex]

From what I gathered, U18 will be just about the armour overhaul and Stalingrad map refresh (+some smaller QoL stuffs).

now that's a valid question

not sure if the date was mentioned anywhere? My mind is trying to convince me I saw it somewhere for September but not rly sure.

ah, today actually it's end of August already 😄

[wind shore]

Any plans to add mortars this week?

[nova pivot]

Good morning ben

You know what I am going to ask lol

[covert elbow]

When pacific

[analog apex]

Yo @fluid pawn , any light on the U18 release date?

[covert elbow]

Or cameras

I’d like cameras more

[wind shore]

Why do you need camera?

It’s useless thing

[covert elbow]

That way I don’t have to go into admin cam for photos and I can get some fun in the action shots

[wind shore]

Like in Squad 44

[fluid pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-13597132752790194338

[analog apex]

In SQ44 it has been used for making old-looking screenshots. Despite useless in terms of meta, people including myself were actually using it big deal 😄 .

[fluid pawn]

Will be sharing details soon 🫡

[analog apex]

Thanks 🙂 .

[covert elbow]

@fluid pawn When can I get me cameras

[nova pivot]

The thing about the pavlov house asset

[fluid pawn]

Gotcha

[wind shore]

So soon means this year of course I hope

Thanks ☺️

[analog apex]

Anyway, I wonder for how much longer I will be able to stay at HLL becauce of this ☝️ . Maybe I will need a longer HLL break at the very least. But will check out the changes always. Eager to see U19 especially whenever it comes.

[covert elbow]

I mean this is why I started USSC. It allows me to still interact with the game and check it out but I don’t have to deal with a lot of the games issues like these

[analog apex]

eeeeh... huh?

[covert elbow]

I can’t play the game seriously anymore as every match I just want to rock assault I’m actively dooming my team as no one else knows how to play officer

[analog apex]

USSC is a clan, right?

[covert elbow]

USSC

[nova pivot]

USSC

[wind shore]

I think it’s something like friendlies community

[covert elbow]

United States Signal Corps

[wind shore]

Where people come and just play together

[covert elbow]

We’re a photography and film group, not a clan

[analog apex]

yea yeah typo guys 😄

[covert elbow]

All good haha

[finite berry]

Yep; it's a completely useless, but fun mechanic if you wanna roleplay a war correspondent

[covert elbow]

That’s what I’ve been wanting to do