mess-hall

[wind shore]

Idk actually what he means

[past vortex]

ofc we assume its jan 1st

[wind shore]

Maybe cause his face is red from the 😡

[past vortex]

yea, that what i was thinking, you dont actually know what you are saying

[wind shore]

For those things what he did before he became popular

And when he was popular

P.S. he is the richest streamer in all former soviet states countries

[past vortex]

so why do you post that aweful stuff?

[wind shore]

Idk

[wind shore]

Cause he is like memes

A lot of his videos are popular in shorts and memes

Cause that’s funny memes with him

[past vortex]

dude...

:/

[wind shore]

https://youtube.com/shorts/hcfMLLUmd38?si=lB6OVglxCVQOkyw3

Like this, it’s meme

That’s the thing in degenerative content he earned millions or maybe billions lol

[past vortex]

yea and YOU are an aweful person for liking it

[wind shore]

I can’t disagree with that

[nova pivot]

Lol

[wintry thistle]

What he’d do. I have no clue who this person is

[past vortex]

mellstroy

[wind shore]

He did billions of money

Like it’s like he streaming and can send millions to random guys, dollars

[wintry thistle]

I see.
Streamers who act like hooligans and downright morons should be in pysch wards

[past vortex]

because of aweful people like you who watch that

[wind shore]

I didn’t watched his streams, only memes with him

[wind shore]

So watch Zloy then

[past vortex]

how about you just keep your bs to yourself, no one here is going to watch russian yters

[wind shore]

lol he is from Ukraine,and now living in Spain,but ok.

Nobody is going to watch your YTbers also

[past vortex]

thats why i dont post any

but if i did it would be in english and there would at least be a tiny chance some did

[wind shore]

Hah it’s pretty fake content I think what you’ve watching, of course I wouldn’t watch this, better funny cuts

[minor peak]

I didn’t think it was possible we’re actually getting Vietnam lol

Also hold on VIETNAM BEFORE JAPAN ?

[slate canopy]

Correct.

[past vortex]

before korea even

[cedar cape]

US vr. whoever

[minor peak]

Before Cuba 😔

[cedar cape]

pretty easy

[minor peak]

true

well I can’t wait for this anyways I remember when saying something like Vietnam HLL was nonsensical

[cedar cape]

I mean people won't argue about historical accuracy

its m16 against ak

[wind shore]

It’s about Chinese,Vietnamese,Japanese,Koreans fighting vs US, ANZAC, as I understand?

• Vietnamese would be on both sides

[cedar cape]

those pesky historians

[wind shore]

Joking of course

[past vortex]

oh the historical dicussion is already in full swing

[minor peak]

well I might be wrong but the vietnam war happened in Vietnam that’s most I know

[past vortex]

but ofc this discord doesnt make it easy to join :}

[wind shore]

Of course, but it’s fighting in the Pacific theatre, so it might be possible that those guys are ethnic similar to each other - Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese and pretty relatives

[minor peak]

possibly

[wind shore]

It’s 1965

[minor peak]

I remember weapon accuracy to real life discussion like tanks turning to fast

[minor peak]

yea gonna be interesting im excited to hide in the trees if the game allows it

[wind shore]

Of course it would be on Unreal Engine 5

It would be more progressive than UE4

If you dream about flying tanks, I think on UE5 it wouldn’t be

[minor peak]

well if we want to be most realistic I think we should use real engine 5

[wind shore]

For me it’s the same - Korean War or Vietnam

I meant for plans of sides

[minor peak]

like wdym by that

you mean they are both similar to u?

[wind shore]

North Korea fought with South Korea, North Vietnam fought with South Vietnam

[wintry thistle]

The Korean War and Vietnam war were very different

The biggest similarity being the geographic location and ideology of the countries

[cedar cape]

who still thinks that original HLL was the best semi-simulator of war ever?

[wind shore]

Both were communists or no?

[cosmic pilot]

yes

communist north

[wintry thistle]

Yes that’s the biggest and only similarity

[minor peak]

maybe another similarity is that it was another usa and Soviet proxy war lol

[cosmic pilot]

the real lesson from the war in korea was that McCarthy was based AF

[wind shore]

I can’t understand why they fought

[minor peak]

we need #vietnam-history channel now

[wind shore]

They were split after WW2 as I know

Into occupation zones

[wintry thistle]

Fact check true

[wind shore]

There is

[minor peak]

fr?

[wind shore]

Ask moderator she can put emoji to you and you became in that channel

[slate canopy]

In Channels & Roles.

[minor peak]

I see

[wind shore]

Would you play HLLV?

[cosmic pilot]

general MacArthur was also as based AF

[cedar cape]

I have to say the telegram about vietnam surprised me

[wintry thistle]

No

[wind shore]

I expect the vibe of USA 1980 in game

[cedar cape]

I was watching world of tanks stream

[cosmic pilot]

would you play HLLK

[cedar cape]

and suddenly there was HLL vietnam

[wind shore]

Like in GTA series were funny characters which fought in Vietnam, and put different replics like “Vietcong!”

[wintry thistle]

Yes 100%
Only cause it’s Korea

A Korean War FPS would be sick

[wind shore]

Why so different choice?

Cause I’ve seen on Reddit yesterday people also wants Korean War and Pacific

[wintry thistle]

Cause it’s a conflict that is criminally untouched in media

[cosmic pilot]

fit's HLL formula better

[wind shore]

I think I would play them all

[wind shore]

Agreed

[cedar cape]

lost battalion amiga 500

[wind shore]

It is rarely represented + it’s IL-2 Sturmovik had Korean War

[minor peak]

yea and not as much talked about either prolly cuz North Korea and South Korea are still a ticking time bomb of an issue to this day

[wind shore]

Closer to WW2

Which sides fought on Korean War?

Except North and South Korea

[minor peak]

china, USA

[cedar cape]

wow

[minor peak]

soviets were like always giving a bunch if supplies

[wind shore]

To be honest I would play any shooter from HLL

[wintry thistle]

I’d say cause Vietnam over shadows it

[minor peak]

if they ever release a World War One game that would be pretty interesting but the hard thing about trench warfare is the most accurate thing about it is getting sick and dying after eating a rat

also anyone noticed how many ww1 games end up failing?

[cedar cape]

ww1 would be black adder final season

waiting to get into the machinegun fire

[minor peak]

the game is in realtime servers and you are just waiting in a trench for weeks until you charge and then die in 5 sec and u can’t rejoin the same server

now that’s a game I wouldn’t play

[wind shore]

Idk only why Russian language is out rn in HLLV

All languages exist, Russian language is out

[minor peak]

maybe Russians don’t play he’ll let loose without vpn

[wind shore]

They play HLL, and it’s not only about Russians, a lot of people speak that language

[cedar cape]

yeah

I'm sure actual russians are being pretty low key

[minor peak]

oh in that case they prolly haven’t hired a translator for it idk man

[covert elbow]

I see we’re ignoring the many major battles that happened along with every other front besides the western one

People who think WWI was completely stationary where nothing happened are just wrong

[minor peak]

Nah I don’t think it’s stationary I know they practiced tactics of warfare like wave warfare correct?

[cedar cape]

where finnish front

how to balance it without tanks

and thats ww2

[minor peak]

idk man the whole point of it just was I think a ww1 game is hard to emulate when it isn’t Arcady and most of them die out anyways

[covert elbow]

The WWI game series doesn’t seem to think so

[cedar cape]

what is exactly the best simulation of ww1 atm?

[covert elbow]

Verdun and Tannenberg are definitely not that active anymore since the gameplays outdated and it’s been years since they were released but Izonzo did fairly well and Gallipoli is being released soon

[covert elbow]

The Squad game I believe

[cedar cape]

oh

[magic dune]

their games still died

[wintry thistle]

Their active

Besides Tanneberg

I think Verdun is dead though

But both those games are literally a decade old

[magic dune]

Verdun has 39 people right now
Tannenberg 11
Isonzo 181

[wintry thistle]

Yeah Isonzo is active

[magic dune]

sure but 181 is not a good number

[wintry thistle]

Their newer games get players

[wind shore]

@wintry thistle what do you think about Smolensk 1943?

[cedar cape]

is it?

[wintry thistle]

For a small company it’s alright

[wind shore]

It’s pretty uncommon battle in games and media’s

During ww2, not so famous as Kursk, cause Citadel was more famous in media

[wintry thistle]

An interesting choice for the eastern front

[wind shore]

I’ve done the suggestion for it, have you seen it?

[wintry thistle]

I think I’ve glanced over it

[wind shore]

I think so

[wind shore]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1343025977319751741

#1343025977319751741 message

[wind shore]

So which troops do you think fought in Smolensk?

In 1943, cause it is lack of information in whole internet, I know which troops, but what do you think

[wintry thistle]

German and Soviet would be a good guess

[magic dune]

lol

[wind shore]

Yes but which divisions or kind of troops

Soviet 31st Army, 331st rifle division

[wintry thistle]

You can probably find specific info on the internet somewhere
Seldom is knowledge on battles completely gone

[cedar cape]

did you guys enjoy the first battlefield game?

like the very first one?

[wind shore]

I’ve found, it was not so easy, it’s on whole internet just lack of information about this battle and says “Liberated”

[wind shore]

Haven’t played it

https://tenor.com/view/milk-and-mocha-milk-mocha-milk-mocha-bear-milk-bear-mocha-bear-gif-7270252476476520589

[covert elbow]

I liked it a lot. Looking back on it I have a thoughts but it’s a 8/10 game

[wind shore]

I know which troops it were, and how it was, it was difficult to find information but I’ve found it

[cedar cape]

I do sometimes wonder if people don't actually see how fun HLL is

[covert elbow]

I do sometimes wonder if people don’t realize how broken and horribly made the game is

[cedar cape]

I don't see that at all

[covert elbow]

Huh. Weird

[cedar cape]

but I'm a dirty casual

[magic dune]

HLL is one of my favorite games in general

[cedar cape]

but I get that awesome feeling of the first BF game

which they never recreated btw

[wind shore]

It’s not, it has a lot of potential

Don’t break game just in future updates and that would be ok

[magic dune]

looks like he's on console, and I think they get less performance on HLL

[covert elbow]

A lot of squandered potential

[wind shore]

Just patience

[covert elbow]

I have patience, and I got a sequel game. Not really worth waiting anymore

[minor peak]

honestly milsim is not a huge genre

[covert elbow]

This is a MilSim?

Could have fooled me

[cedar cape]

it will be when technology can handle 2000 vs 2000

but sadly we are forever stuck with 50-70 due to netcode

or physics really

[magic dune]

the entire bottom row of my keyboard would have to be all the different push-to-talks for the degrees in the command hierarchy for that lol

[cedar cape]

I mean that would actually be mind blowing experience

we'd propably have actual generals playing 😄

but then again any modern game is company vs company at best

[magic dune]

maybe someday 🙏

when we're all dead

[cedar cape]

I'll see you at marsian civil war I

❤️

[warm flax]

I wasnt able to watch the community livestream. So did they mention vietnam getting helicopters and tanks aswell?

[vagrant shale]

yes

and monkeys that sneak into. villages to steal rice and guns

heading into battle

st marie egilsey

this is gonna suck

[warm flax]

Oh damn so immersive 💀

[dusk quarry]

I think vietnam getting tanks is good, but I'd love to see them not use helicopters. Vietnam can use tunnels for map traversal. US can use helicopters. Bit of asymmetry

Helicopters could bring fire power from the air for US. but vietnam gets placable booby traps and more diverse mine options for their fire power

[warm flax]

I mean this is a good idea for breakthrough

[marble axle]

ofcouse they not gonna get heli , but they must get AA tank

like T-34 with twin 37mm turret or BTR-152 with twin 14.5 mm HMG or infantry deployable duska HMG on tri-pod

[wind shore]

HLL Vietnam - new game or not?

[past veldt]

April fools joke

It was just late

[novel geyser]

That is what they are doing
Us gets choppers nva get tunnels what for what sounds like fast traveling

Teleporting garry meta but official

[fathom igloo]

Hello guys, i have an unusual question

Does anyone know if i can apply to work for the devs?

I can't seem to find anything on them

[analog apex]

just what the game "needs", eeh? 😄

[analog apex]

I guess you would have to go through some standard Team17/Expression job openings somewhere but idk...

[dry vapor]

Just saw on Steam the news 🇻🇳 I'm excited. Are you excited or not??

[analog apex]

nope

more like disappointed and annoyed

[dry vapor]

Why?? I assume they will stop updating and improving HLL which is a bummer!

[worthy charm]

The old man is mad xD

Luv you sam ❤️

[analog apex]

nobody will convince me they will treat HLL1 equally when they announced 6 maps for the HLLV while we barely get 2 maps per year for HLL1 WWII with great pain too

[worthy charm]

They said they can easier make maps in HllV than in Hll

UE5 seens to do wonders

[analog apex]

right, they can jsut setup the UE5's procedural content generator rules to make whole maps... I am sure doable if many and good enough rules woudl be made 😄 ... with minimal hand work.

But that means the maps are not authentic while the map 1:1 authenticity has been one of the main HLL's higlights.

[fervent dagger]

It’s also a scope thing. HLLV will have been in development for 2 ish years minimum when it comes out so that tracks for 6 maps in that time frame.

And that’s not how ue5 works. The maps will probably have the same pipeline.

[worthy charm]

They said 18 months i was wrong as usual

[analog apex]

true, we are yet to see how frequent and big the HLLV will be in relation to HLL1, but I don't care. I am just sad they didn't put all the effort into fixing HLL1 first. They could have done it 2x as fast.

[worthy charm]

Or was it 16?

[analog apex]

16

sadly

corporate is a corporate with tie-wearing disconnected decisionmakers vs an indie studio with engaged devs... a big difference

[mortal jackal]

🥹🥹🥹🥹

[analog apex]

the best hope would be probably for HLL1 to die fast so they can make a new WWII one later

if that was the thing, I would probably be able to somehow chew through the Vietnam

...maybe

[abstract ruin]

Why I see cheeks on hll discord

[sick wyvern]

you just descriped Rising Storm 2:Vietnam

[dusk quarry]

Im aware, but its basically what HLLV is but bigger

[sick wyvern]

Nah, I doubt they can add anything more than the previous game

Like RS2 literally has same stuff like hell let loose, but even better, like it has units, commander, it requires a radioman to call in airstrikes, choppers and tunnels like damn

Nothing against HLL but Team17 is just bad rn

[finite berry]

Honestly, but I'll be in genuine awe if they can make things run properly without issues in UE5. Not because I doubt their competence but because UE5 can be a mess to deal with.

[dusky prairie]

Huuh

Theres new game under development n i dont know of?

[finite berry]

HLL Vietnam

[night lark]

HLL WW2 is a mess. There probably isnt a lot TF17 can do other than fix minor things but even then, fixes cause problems elsewhere.

Youd get a far better product is TF17 built a new game ground up rather than try to adopt the coding made by absolute apes in BM

[novel geyser]

They did claim a while back they are trying to unravel HLLs code, hopefully that wasnt just white lies and they actually are

If they really do manage to improve HLL ww2 I'll be happy but for now im skeptical and a bit dissapointed

[noble ferry]

Hello, who I can contact about having connecting issues in the game? I have 151 hours in this game and 2 months ago, I started having a problem connecting to servers for absolutely no reason. It always run smoothly and I just cannot connect anymore or it takes 1 hour and the game is absolutely glitching. I never had any of these problems before.

[night lark]

I dont think itd be worth the time and effort because at that point you may as well make a new game

[cyan saddle]

Move the game from a HDD to an SSD

[noble ferry]

ok, I will try that. Thanks!

[forest leaf]

anyone active now?

[nova pivot]

Same 🫂

[gloomy crown]

Honestly if we get the armour and arty rework with u18 and u19 and if they add a handful more weapons to the axis to give them some variety as they currently have no subfactions, would be fine with Hll WW2 slowly dying, switching to Vietnam and then getting a HLL WW 2

[nova pivot]

The game needs another axis faction

Finland would be perfect

[worthy charm]

We should laugh at this User.

[nova pivot]

Mod abuse

[novel geyser]

yknow what axis faction would be cool 🏝️

italy

[nova pivot]

🤝

[worthy charm]

What are you gonna do?

[gloomy crown]

They promised us Finland and Poland in a Roadmap(or dev stream idk?)

[nova pivot]

Black matter roadmap

That's already buried somewhere.

[novel geyser]

longing for an update to bring more subfactions
could easily start with eastern front germany or US paratroopers and German fallschirmjagers

[gloomy crown]

The one with AA emplacements in it as well? 😂

[nova pivot]

Yes

[novel geyser]

finland wasnt a black matter roadmap it was the first T17 one

but then the update 14 15 trailer happened

[nova pivot]

O my bad then

[novel geyser]

BM parted ways with the British update

and we all know how well that went

[gloomy crown]

Now i am feeling old and like i have played this game for too long, thank you 🙁

[novel geyser]

update 15 trailer was 2 years ago...

(not update 14 my mistake)

[nova pivot]

Does Ben work on weekends?

I want to @ him

[novel geyser]

possibly not

[nova pivot]

We are going to find out

@fluid pawn Sorry for the insistence, anything about the change of the Pavlov's house asset?

[pine ember]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-if-you-love-finland-finland-i-love-finland-scream-finland-finland-scream-gif-496655312649171179

[nova pivot]

Finland mentioned raaaaaaaaaaah

https://tenor.com/view/finn-finland-cick-bald-gif-20662247

[sharp gazelle]

Bro hll Vietnam looks fire

[vagrant shale]

does it come out today?

[oak current]

somewhen 2026

[vagrant shale]

dang

[drifting python]

🐕 💩

[steady vine]

Does anyone know if we get proper seeding gamemode in HLL vietnam?

[worthy charm]

Not at the moment, there are still 4 unknown gamemodes.

[wind shore]

I love the uppercut even tho im scared to buy and use it

[lone tangle]

vietnam is okay ig, tho i want to see more korean war

[analog apex]

warfare, offensive, skirmish, conquest xD

[real parrot]

Never liked Vietnam, I like tanks not jungles

[gray garden]

There will be tanks

[real parrot]

I Don't expect them to be fun nor a core part of gameplay like on HLL

[slate canopy]

If you want tanks, there are lots of tank games out there lol

[analog apex]

like... Squad44 😏

[slate canopy]

Well, my mind went to Warthunder or World of Tanks lol

[analog apex]

I know heh 🙂

but in SQ44 there are a lot of various tanks too, and are not locked behind some not-yet-unlocked tier like in WoT or WT.

And probably the best armour system so far.

[slate canopy]

I've only played Warthunder out of those... and I didn't even tank 😂

[finite berry]

eww, CAS :D

[slate canopy]

I was having fun flying planes. (insert throwback to old Mig Alley I have on CD)

[finite berry]

But locked to specific layers per map

Still, probably the best armour system in a tactical/mil-sim shooter

[analog apex]

that's natural though... can't want/expect to play a Panther on some early war France map

[finite berry]

Plus, it's gotten even better now that APHE got fixed :D

Previously, APHE was seriously underperforming (as in not doing internal damage)

Now, it does

And if you hit a Sherman with a Jagdtiger's shot, it actually feels like it

[worthy charm]

Warfare and Offensive are already known. The 4 unknown gamemodes are hopefully something like a objektiv gamodemode. Seeding gamemode and 2 others who for the love of god arent skirmish.

[worthy charm]

They will do diffrent kinds of maps, my hopes are there are open maps for tanks similar to kursk or foy on release.

[azure heath]

There’s also loads of infantry games out there.

[real parrot]

I stopped playing war thunder since I always died either by a helicopter or CAS and there was nothing I could do aliviate this, basically GRB is ARB with live ground targets.

And I stopped playing WoT since tanks started to fly and have superpowers

[azure heath]

also is HLL vietnam only 1965 or was that just to set the mood

[slate canopy]

I'm sure it's to set the mood.

[azure heath]

Cool

We better get Hue at some point

[covert elbow]

“Man I really wish the devs could make this mechanic in the game fun. Sucks that it suffers due to XYZ.”

“Just play a different game lmao”

[covert elbow]

Just to set the mood

People analyzed the trailer and found a ton of later war stuff

[wind shore]

So they didn’t said which year exactly

1965 yes, but we don’t know about all those 6 early maps, maybe they would be in different timeframe

[covert elbow]

Probably

It’d be weird to have all the maps set in 1965

And it wouldn’t make sense considering that heavily limits the equipment

I really don’t know why they threw up a date when they could have just let the trailer speak for itself

[wind shore]

Also I’ve read yesterday that in Vietnam it was different troops like NVA, Southern Vietnam Army, ANZAC, and others

[wind shore]

In HLL time frame is from 1942-1945

[covert elbow]

And?

That just further proves my point

[pine ember]

When eastern front subfaction?

[covert elbow]

No

[pine ember]

Just remove the StG and lock most of the DLC

[covert elbow]

You get 3 more maps, a rework that takes 8 months longer than it should take, 50 more uniform DLC’s that are way to overpriced and YOU WILL LIKE IT

PRAISE BE TO THE NEW GAME

[pine ember]

Can’t wait for new DLC

[covert elbow]

It’s going to be so good :}

[pine ember]

Yeeee

[wind shore]

They doing well job now and no doubt

[finite berry]

The thing is that it actually looks very promising.

[covert elbow]

1 gazillion more hyper specific uniforms that can only be equipped and cannot be customized

[wind shore]

They doing a lot of content - new SPA, new map, and other things, Stalingrad rework

[covert elbow]

Yea. I’m honestly tempted to buy it but I’m definitely going to wait a few months to see how the launch and post-launch updates look like

I’m also still pissed abit how
They absolutely abandoned the main game

[pine ember]

I don’t buy DLC

[covert elbow]

Getting dripfed content isn’t something that’s commendable T17

[wind shore]

Just we have to wait, everything is good rn except tinkerer

[pine ember]

Tinkerer is good

But why do they even abandon this game?

[covert elbow]

Tinkerer as of now is definitely not goood

I’d rather have a special tank station in spawn that the tank commander can use fuel or some other munition to add stuff to the tank, not mess around with stats

[pine ember]

Yea, but a lot better than most people would assume

[covert elbow]

And especially not in the middle of combat

[pine ember]

Sure it needs some work, but the idea is good

[wind shore]

SPA vehicles is good

[finite berry]

I mean, did they really?

[wind shore]

Of course not, it would be sür realistically

[covert elbow]

Cause the games trouble to deal with. Don’t forget HLL:V was marketed as being better to work with so the devs can actually mess around and add stuff to the game

[covert elbow]

Yes

We haven’t gotten a substantial update in years

[finite berry]

Weren't the last few updates at least okay?

[covert elbow]

Okay isn’t enough

Especially when it’s an “okay” update every 6 months

[wind shore]

Also would be great if it would bamboo traps

https://www.reddit.com/r/HellLetLoose/s/MWaAgeNGb9

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1407874889888825538

Imagine walking and fell into that trap. Ouuch

[nova pivot]

It's good if you get 1 okay update per month, we get one per 3 or 4 months

[finite berry]

Nah

I think it's totally fine to get a big update every four months or so

[covert elbow]

But that’s the only updates we get

Bug fixes don’t count as updates either

There’s still a ton of content they could add but they just don’t

They decided to add it to the new game instead

[finite berry]

Perhaps it will come later

[covert elbow]

Maybe

Probably

But it’s been to long of a wait

[nova pivot]

Jajaja "Big"

[fervent dagger]

It's never that easy with game dev. There's always loads of different factors that contribute to why something isn't done at a certain time.

[barren sail]

wondering if the Vietnam game will feature the photo realistic assets like in the ww2 game. I think that's a big aspect of why the game is so immersive

[stiff oriole]

Im looking forward to Vietnam. I feel like it's a wildly underutilized setting and Im a huge fan of Rising Storm 2. I prefer RS2's pace and asymmetrical mechanics to HLL's but if HLL Vietnam's tunnel mechanics are good it might steal me away for good.

[wind shore]

When will be announce of the new eastern front map?

Ben said soon 2 days ago, it means in nearest future?

In September?

[drifting python]

Do you get accountable for leaving the match early or something like that I heard?

[slate canopy]

You should still get your XP if you leave early, but miss out on bonus XP.

(+10% per commendation, +25% for loss, +50% for a win)

[drifting python]

Ok thanks

[stiff oriole]

Yeah, that's how it worked last time I tested it. Also, when I tested it (maybe 6-8 months ago) it's just your overall level that is affected by the XP bonuses at the end of a match, your class levels are unaffected by the bonuses.

[pine ember]

[unborn hill]

hi

[slate canopy]

Welcome

[unborn hill]

i havent gotten hll yet but i was wondering if it was still active?

[slate canopy]

Sure is 🙂

[unborn hill]

well how active is it.?

[slate canopy]

I can't speak to the numbers on console, but to my knowledge it is fairly active.

[stiff oriole]

The short answer is very. Ive never had any trouble finding full servers with low ping.

[unborn hill]

we love to hear that

[slate canopy]

If you're looking for fellow players to play with, there is #console-looking-for-unit and there is a #console-general-chat if you have questions for the player base.

[unborn hill]

alr ty

[slate canopy]

I can't speak to console, since PC doesn't crossplatform with console, but XBOX and Playstation play together (while PC has PC Gamepass, Epic Games, and Steam).

[wind shore]

Can’t wait for announce but I can wait

[opaque raven]

I wonder if we will get south Vietnamese troops in Hell let loose Vietnam

[heady escarp]

I'm so glad HLL PC doesn't has crossplay with console. Is the only thing I don't like from Battlefield

[brittle shuttle]

how tf are people so stupid?? i was in a med tank and i pinged a tank and we were going behind him and i said "i see him, hold" and the driver does a 180 giving enemy tank our rear and letting them destroy us

[novel geyser]

average HLL player

[novel geyser]

possible in a future update, seems at launch its just the US and NVA

[brittle shuttle]

i actually just died to a smoke grenade bruh

[worthy charm]

Thats even possible?

Huh?

[wind shore]

If it was tank yes

[worthy charm]

That even less possible.

[wind shore]

It kills, and from arty smoke can kill if I’m not mistaken

[marble axle]

isn't that good ? console player can't aim they gonna be punching bag free kill for pc players ?

[heady escarp]

Is not that console players can't aim. It's just that it's way easier on PC. So that's why it wouldn't be fair to have crossplay, hence it's way I said I'm glad HLL doesn't have crossplay 😊

[brittle shuttle]

its not?

i was standing on an enemy smoke grenade when it popped and then i died. i didnt hear a gunshot when i died so i figured the smoke grenade did 1 damage and i was at 1hp since i was already hit twice

[past vortex]

dont think so
did you bleed out?

[honest geyser]

Heya i was wondering is hell let loose worth buying it heard the game is on a good sale thinking of buying the game

[slate canopy]

That's your opinion to make. I have short of 1000 hours and I enjoy the game.

You'll die a lot, sometimes there will be frustrating matches, but I feel the games are so fun and communications are usually great, even if you do lose.

[honest geyser]

Used to walking a mile and then dying i have about 1200 hours on squad 44

Lol

[slate canopy]

Same thing can happen 🤫 (I've never played S44 but some people here have)

Watch a couple videos or live streams, see if you like the feel.

[honest geyser]

Yp I saw this game was like 20 bucks looks neat

Also does development for HLL end when vietnam comes out?

[slate canopy]

Nope!

[past vortex]

be aware it might die next year tho

[slate canopy]

Two dev teams, both will be updated and worked on.

Ignore Huk.

[past vortex]

:D

if V is any good not that many will stay

[noble canyon]

Can't wait to fly slicks in vietnam 😄

[slate canopy]

I could see playing both, depending on the mood.

[past vortex]

dont forget that if V is technically ok you might not want to go back to the aweful thing

[slate canopy]

I mean, if it's still having different set ups... maybe I don't wanna deal with mortors or helicopters or tunnels, I'll play HLL

[honest geyser]

I was honestly expecting development to end to this game when nam comes out

Only small bug fixes and such

[slate canopy]

https://www.hellletloose.com/blog/faqs

This should answer a lot of basic questions.

[past vortex]

thats what we already got (limited)
and they said that will go on :}

[noble canyon]

If it's anything like rising storm 2 this game will be awesome.

I saw in the youtube Q+A they were saying marines will be in vietnam, they also touched on adding the marines to HLL so maybe pacific somewhere down the line?

[honest geyser]

I've been wanting a good veitnam game rs2 was peak

Have about 1300 hours on rs2 lol

[slate canopy]

Lots of maps and factions able to come to base HLL so I could see it being still expanded and loved.

[finite berry]

I mean, admittedly, it's also kind of just corporate speech to say "yeah sure we will continue to support HLL".

Not saying they won't do it

Just saying that it's the only real thing they can do without looking like an absolute ar se

[honest geyser]

They could? In what way pacific expansion?

[past vortex]

yea no one knows

[past vortex]

its very unlikely but not yet ruled out

(offically)

[noble canyon]

They could even start with british vs japanese then add the us marines later

[past vortex]

lol

[honest geyser]

Lol

Korean war now I want that one

[past vortex]

yea when korea

[honest geyser]

I want a solid Korean war game now lol

Hll korea lol

[past vortex]

everyone wants korea

[noble canyon]

Now that's a truly forgotten war

[slate canopy]

Maybe? 🤷‍♀️ If they can do Vietnam maps, I'm sure they can Japan, but it's a matter of time.

I can't wait to go back to Korea to see the inside of the Korean War museum. (It was a holiday, unknown to us that day, so we could only walk the outside.)

[honest geyser]

Its kinda sad they chose vietnam over Korea

Thats the true forgotten war

[slate canopy]

Maybe in the future? Who knowwsss

[static monolith]

So is HLL dead when HLL Vietnam comes out?

[slate canopy]

Negative.

[honest geyser]

This game is crossplay right my friend wants to pick it up too

[slate canopy]

" Team17 remains fully committed to the Hell Let Loose franchise. To deliver Hell Let Loose: Vietnam, Expression have built a second team in order to support both titles simultaneously"

[slate canopy]

Only on same platform.

PC to PC, Console to Console.

[static monolith]

I mean a sizeable chunk of the HLL player base are gonna upgrade. Especially on console

Why not just bring in the team who originally made the game?

[slate canopy]

Because that's a different company. Blackmatter originally owned it, Team17 bought it.

Expression is part of Team17.

[static monolith]

No but couldn't they offer a share of the profit or whatever

[honest geyser]

Sad

[past vortex]

bm wasnt a better dev team

[static monolith]

Splitting the HLL team seems risky no? Granted they've been working on Vietnam for years probably

[slate canopy]

Sorry, and they have 0 plans to have it in the future 😅

They HIRED a 2nd team.

And they have been working on it for 16? i think months.

[past vortex]

there is no split, they have worked on hhlv for some time already

and they have that rump "team" for hll

[static monolith]

I wonder how similar Vietnam and HLL will be

[honest geyser]

Someone should pin this to the channel lol

[static monolith]

Like game play wise

[honest geyser]

Just this one image answering tbis question lmao

[slate canopy]

https://www.hellletloose.com/blog/faqs A whole website 😉

[static monolith]

Not upping the play count per match. I feel like HLL could work with 100v100 no?

[slate canopy]

Doubt it.

[past vortex]

its a question of performance

[slate canopy]

It's tough herding 49 cats on your own team as commander, you could imagine 99? 🤭

[static monolith]

Also the option to communicate with tje other team seems like it could be fun if they go with it

[finite berry]

cries in performance

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thurston-waffles-meow-gif-15637283

99 Thurstons :)

[static monolith]

If I can convince 49 people to start team killing each other en masse when we're 30 seconds from losing I can manage with 99

[slate canopy]

MROW~

[wind shore]

What I’ve seen that HLLV is coming next year 2026, on all platforms, PS5, Xbox, PC

[slate canopy]

Correct. 👍

[past vortex]

kedo, stop leaking info

[static monolith]

2026 is gonna be a rough year to sell any game not named GTA

Cod MW4 is gonna be dead on arrival

[oak current]

why?

[slate canopy]

They pushed GTA back once, who said they won't again? 🤫 jk.... MAYBE

[oak current]

I never understood the thought that one game would take over all genres and no other games would sell

[past vortex]

hllv realse on the other hand is certain to be jan 1st 26

[oak current]

like its a magical vortex for money

[past vortex]

CERTAIN i tell you

[past vortex]

it does happen that a game captures such a share that it just never taes off

[oak current]

if its similar or in the same genre, sure

"oh no, Stardew Vallley 2 is releasing! the next CoD is already scared!"

I get that people are hyped for GTA 6, cause it looked pretty

will most people be able to run it? eh

[past vortex]

omfg stardew vally 2 leak

im hyped

[oak current]

actually, there is a leak from SV

[past vortex]

720p upsacling with 4 fake frames

[oak current]

[past vortex]

(not that it will matter in gta:)

[wind shore]

The game developers move their dates of release cause GTA 6

[oak current]

till GTA delays again

I get that you dont want to release with a very propular franchise releasing

but the idea that it'll be hard to sell ANY GAME DURING 2026 because of GTA6..seems over the top

[past vortex]

its not wrong

[oak current]

how

throughout a full year

[past vortex]

at least for games that have a chance of some media hype

so hll is prob less affected :}

[oak current]

did I miss something, where people are only allowed to play one game per year?

[past vortex]

well all the top yters will totally act like that

[oak current]

Who cares about those

😄

[past vortex]

almost all kids

[oak current]

...so the yts will tell people they arent allowed to play anything except one game?

if that works, they might be better off only playing one game then. a second game might blast their capacities 😄

[past vortex]

we are both old altberg

but i got kids :}

[oak current]

I'll mostly sit GTA 6 out probably. I'd get it for 49.99 probably...but thats doubtful.

they'll ask for a whacky price, people will pay it

[past vortex]

i wouldnt touch gta for free

[oak current]

not?

[past vortex]

naw its aweful

[oak current]

no idea, I saw the original trailer and that was it
I dont really keep up with the hype trains - just makes you dissappointed when games release, that it isnt as good as hyped up

I had great fun with the Titan Quest 2 EA, but people got angry, cause they had heard it would be 20 hours of playtime.
I didnt know, so I didnt put that extra requirement on the EA 😄

[past vortex]

the whole idea of playing as a gangster is strange to me

i guess its fun to drive cars for an hour

[oak current]

eh, I grew up with GTA 1 and GTA 2. I get the fun of it

[past vortex]

never liked it

[oak current]

fair enough

[azure heath]

Personally, I’m not into GTA. I can play it for an hour or so a week but nothing crazy.

[slate canopy]

I have GTA 5, but 0 interest in 6. (Only really done Co-op with friends, which happened a handful of times)

[wind shore]

Hello

[empty steppe]

What you do is just watch a YouTube video on it and call it good

[slate canopy]

Bascially lol

I played GTA Vice City growing up... but i didn't do much of the story/missions

[empty steppe]

That’s what I do with most games 😅😂

[wind shore]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1408963841261572197

[empty steppe]

With all the little horror indie games I’ll just pull up a 8bitryan or markiplier or smth like that

[empty steppe]

We ain’t gonna be gettin any new maps for a while man

[wind shore]

?

But why

[wind shore]

Why do you think so? That next year wouldn’t be 2 maps?

[brittle shuttle]

i wasnt bleeding

[past vortex]

if you were healed you were not low on health

[wind shore]

So sad to hear it

[wind shore]

Can we get SMOL please! That would be enough to play HLL WW2 with it and enjoy it! Please! 🙏

https://tenor.com/view/hello-kitty-please-gif-7218507725897171128

[vagrant shale]

some folks are bald maaaaaaaaade to wave the flag

ooooo that red white and blue

[gentle lintel]

IT AINT ME

[cosmic heron]

I know nobody asked but it's ma birthday brochachos

[vagrant shale]

hey happy birthday man

[drifting python]

🎂🎉

[thin jolt]

soooooo i just waited like 20 minutes to get into a server and it kicked me out after about 30 seconds saying authentication failed or something to that affect, wth???

10 minutes to get back into a server and it freezes at team pick screen, whats going on? 5800X-3D, 5060 Ti 16g, 64g ram, drivers updated.....

[slate canopy]

Share with more information of the error in #1271718922734796865

[wind shore]

Good morning Ben, what would be with content in original HLL? It would be the same plan - 2 maps in year and some content?

[worthy charm]

Kedo its a Sunday morning...

The chance of Ben coming on today more than just small.

[wind shore]

Okay

[still wadi]

hi

[delicate mortar]

Mods work on sundays (and they don't even get paid 🤭)

[worthy charm]

Calling what I do work is crazy😅

[still wadi]

i'm new player

there are not server it's normal ?

[delicate mortar]

You mean the servers are down ?

[still wadi]

i don't know when i go to engage i have not server

[delicate mortar]

Do you have filters enable ?

[still wadi]

no

[delicate mortar]

Have you tried restarting the game ?

[still wadi]

yes

but the named it's hell let loose (public testing)

[delicate mortar]

That's because you are launching the PTE version of the game

[still wadi]

what is the public testing ?

and how open not the testing ?

[delicate mortar]

It's a client used to play work in progress update, it's temporary

Look up your steam library and search for Hell Let Loose

[still wadi]

it's long time ?

[delicate mortar]

And not the public testing version

[still wadi]

okay i go to steam

i have two hell let loose

[delicate mortar]

It's usually a week long. But right now the public test for the next update is closed.
Use the normal client named simply "Hell let loose" on Steam.

[still wadi]

the pubvlic test and the normal

[delicate mortar]

Yep just use the normal one and it will be fine

[still wadi]

i get it

[still wadi]

thank you very much

[delicate mortar]

no problem

Welcome in hell

Ou plutôt.
Bienvenue en enfer

[still wadi]

merci frère

[worthy charm]

👀

[still wadi]

i'm french

[worthy charm]

That much is obvious😅

[pine ember]

Oh la la Baguette

[still wadi]

and the chees

[pine ember]

What?

[still wadi]

cheese

[pine ember]

I had French in school but forgot Most of it

[still wadi]

sorry

[pine ember]

Ah

[worthy charm]

Why do I hold myselft back, for you just to go in 100%?😂

[pine ember]

La fromage

[worthy charm]

La baguette

[pine ember]

No idea Bro😂

[still wadi]

it's hard

[delicate mortar]

Le*

[pine ember]

Ah f

[still wadi]

it's "le"

[pine ember]

See, I dont remember much

[worthy charm]

Im so happy to have skipped french classes.

[delicate mortar]

Don't worry, french is hard.

[still wadi]

yes verry

[worthy charm]

Imagine having more articles than fcking german

[pine ember]

But nice language

[delicate mortar]

Even native have hard time with it

[pine ember]

Der die das

[delicate mortar]

Absolument

[still wadi]

yes but hard

[worthy charm]

Die Nutella

[still wadi]

i go playing hell let loose

[pine ember]

It’s das Nutella

And „der Nutella“ is just a Crime

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-liar-star-wars-lying-gif-8634649

[worthy charm]

Thats true tho

[oak current]

stop calling for the death of Nutella, Bad Mod!

[pine ember]

Normal dad jokes be like

[still wadi]

i buy the version deluxe but i have nothing

it's normal ?

[worthy charm]

Damn🤣

[pine ember]

You have DLC I think

[still wadi]

yes

i do glow up ?

[worthy charm]

The deluxe Edition only gives a few extra Skins.

[pine ember]

Ok, then Check the Barracks once you downloaded it

[worthy charm]

Not even sure if the like 2 good ones are in there...

[pine ember]

No, they are mostly realistic for WW2

[pine ember]

Which ones are even featured?

[worthy charm]

As if I know😅

[still wadi]

i don't understand

[pine ember]

Im interested, ill look later

[pine ember]

You basically get a few extra uniforms you can equip

In the normal edition you have to buy them extra

[still wadi]

but i buy the edition deluxe

[pine ember]

And these are what makes the edition the deluxe one

[still wadi]

there are false front

hot drop

and lethal tide

[pine ember]

These are the names of the DLC

You should get an extra uniform for Germany, US and USSR with this one

[wind shore]

I find the guys who will help me with photos

To post it in thread

[still wadi]

okay

i found

[pine ember]

So now you can use them

[still wadi]

yess

[still wadi]

the game is so hard

[delicate mortar]

Indeed

The learning curve is steep but that's where all the fun is.

[still wadi]

yes

[delicate mortar]

Go play on "La 7eme compagnie" servers, they are nice and you will be able to speak french there

[still wadi]

okay

[wind shore]

Wsp

[pine ember]

When Moscow 1941 map?

[worthy charm]

Never

[pine ember]

Sad

Hopefully we get a realistic WW2 game that will focus on earlier war settings

[worthy charm]

Give me my horse!!!

I need a name tho... either Amadeus or Sabrina. Im having a hard time to decide.

[pine ember]

Cpt. Niveau, we are sinking once again

Will we ever get new maps for HLL1?

[wind shore]

So you also like Cheescake and others? Who say we won’t get anything

😢

I hope it’s not true

[worthy charm]

Im joking kedo

Again I dont know sh*t anyway

[pine ember]

We dont know, but its not that realistic

Sure they say we will get new content, but I dont think it will be something large

Which is sad, because we still need some maps for the Soviets and especially the British

[wind shore]

We can’t know

[pine ember]

Tell me one reason why they should give HLL1 any large new updates

[wind shore]

I don’t know, I’m just thinking for now, I don’t care much about next updates

First I need to complete with feedback and next upcoming map

I can’t know what will be next and care less about it rn, first we have unfinished stuff which is worry me more

[pine ember]

What unifinished stuff?

I dont think we will get a big infantry rework

[wind shore]

Map, first need to see what is it and how it would be, + sending feedback.It comes first, than other stuff

[pine ember]

I dont think its unfinished

Sure we will get a PTE, but they will only improve smaller issues after that

[wind shore]

In PTE it always comes raw version

[pine ember]

Yea, but not that much more work is then required for the full release

Its often just minor details

[wind shore]

If it SML, they could still move the area a bit, like they’ve done with Stalingrad, to south. They don’t lose nothing from it, just adding 1-2 columns on hill. It doesn’t meant that they should start from zero, it’s just about reworking a small area which is not whole 100%

2 columns or 1 column, not whole part of course

[pine ember]

Stalingrad wasnt moved I think

And I dont think they will move the new map

They will fix minor problems, but not move the whole map

[wind shore]

But that’s the trick, they didn’t moved, but changed certain parts. If they replace the railway with existing assets, and create a hill on other part of the map + it touches only borders

[pine ember]

I dont think they will do that, that would be much work

The map looks fine, and the devs mentioned they already played it and it was really good

There is no need to move it and thus delay it

[wind shore]

It’s not much work. It doesn’t something about the entire map, it’s about certain parts. Just moving the grid, on existing map.

[pine ember]

The map doesnt exist outside of the grid, its just a basic background

[wind shore]

It’s of course wonderful.

[pine ember]

They wont move it, and not before the players even tested it

[wind shore]

• I’m only about railway part

[pine ember]

Whats so bad about it?

[wind shore]

Just keep the whole northern side except railway - & little expand a bit southern part more

The other part it’s urban it’s ok

[wind shore]

Instead of this we can get extra urban part ?

[pine ember]

As I said, I doubt they will move the map

[pine ember]

Only urban is boring

Some more open areas are needed too

[wind shore]

So on rail were different trains, so if it would be new enterable train for example

So that’s why we need a teaser to look on it, and some news

But I gave feedback earlier, idk, better if I would give those feedback earlier etc

[pine ember]

What we need is continued support for HLL1

[pine ember]

You haven’t even seen the new map nor played it😂

[wind shore]

Of course not, I’m waiting

I’m giving feedback on what I’ve seen

Need screenshots and trailer first

Ben said it’s coming after Stalingrad map, news about it, but it came HLLV first

[pine ember]

And rn we haven’t seen anything

[wind shore]

So I gave a little bit feedback

[wind shore]

Ok

Just an assumption

[winter rover]

I feel like the devs are going to choke on HLL vietnam

[pine ember]

Yea, but I don’t think they will move the whole map

[pine ember]

Yep, I assume they won’t add much new content to HLL1

[winter rover]

Why do you say that?

They have seperate teams for both games

It's probably going to be like Squad and Squad 44

[pine ember]

Because it is clear where the focus lies

They will most likely add a bit more stuff, but nothing spectacular

[fervent dagger]

If that was the case they wouldn’t have bothered to hire a whole new team

[winter rover]

i'm keeping my expectations low for vietnam

[pine ember]

Ok, if they have a complete new team that’s better

But I don’t think HLL1 will now see a big blow up in amount of new content

[winter rover]

They're developing the game from ground up on UE5 so who knows what kind of direction they'll head into

[wind shore]

I think not whole of the map, but only certain part - railway, that’s all. The whole urban area on north would be saved and Church

[pine ember]

They won’t move the map likely at all

It isn’t about the map as a whole, they also won’t move it by a few columns

[winter rover]

so don't worry, HLL ain't going anywhere, still going to receive support like normal

[wind shore]

It’s certain part - railway; not whole part. And it doesn’t need to move. It’s just cut from the one side, and adding extra grid equal the part was cut from the other side

Profit

All strongpoints are saved

[wind shore]

Why Cheescake said me different yesterday then?

[wind shore]

need to wait trailer

No doubt that it’s great map

But have to seen it, need to wait

Or it doesn’t need to move, but still add those walls visible behind the map, so it would be cool

On north isn’t bad at all, but need trailer and teaser

North is good side it’s urban and unique

[echo karma]

Hll will die for Vietnam. Which is the best option cuz they'll have control over the engine code etc. Vietnam is just ww2 with different guns right?

Some of the things they talked about for Vietnam were in hll roadmaps

[pine ember]

Yea, but it would be preferable if they first “finish” the game with that full dev team

[pine ember]

Yea, not really, I am missing the German faction

[pine ember]

Nice that we get them, but they were officially planned for this game

[topaz lodge]

I just want some new stuff for hll 1, factions, maps and everything else

[brittle inlet]

if you told me when i first started playing years ago that this game would get a sequel in vietnam i wouldn’t believe you in the slightest

[hearty coyote]

Goodmorning @everyone

[brittle inlet]

found a wiki page, looks we’re gonna see the ppsh (again)

[wind shore]

Why did you pinged us

[pine ember]

I hope we get that too

[wind shore]

Try @ afternoong

[pine ember]

But the lower you put your expectations, the lesser you will be dissapointed

https://tenor.com/view/scream-if-you-love-finland-finland-i-love-finland-scream-finland-finland-scream-gif-496655312649171179

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/yugoslavia-republics-former-scream-you-gif-17380430729311301414

[wind shore]

SCREAM if you love ALL former USSR republics

[past vortex]

you forgot one

[worthy crow]

last one doesnt exist

[pine ember]

I won’t scream

[worthy charm]

no one screams

[wind shore]

Macedonia?

[worthy charm]

*North

[pine ember]

Lets guess why

[worthy crow]

yes

[topaz lodge]

Holdfast may not be a simulation game, but the developers have added many things, even the First World War, in the Napoleonic battles there are all the most important nations.

we had the same things on hll, contents I mean

[pine ember]

Hm interesting

[topaz lodge]

funny game

[wind shore]

PTE has been updated. Nothing interesting

It’s just about nothing and nothing more

Nothing new just Stalingrad was removed

[winter rover]

then vietnam wouldn't be a thing then for the next 5 years lol

[wind shore]

I expected tomorrow the new map?

[winter rover]

And technically speaking, they could call HLL a finished game and wrap it up then move to vietnam

Be glad they're still working on it

[past vortex]

lol

[topaz lodge]

I'm not happy, make a game about ww2 with half the factions and maps

[pine ember]

Where is Finland? Where is Berlin? Where are more British and Soviet maps?

[fading carbon]

Where is China 💔🥀

[winter rover]

The Soviets, British, Americans and Germans are all in the game - so at least it covers the main factions

Except Japan

[pine ember]

Many are still missing

[topaz lodge]

yes

[winter rover]

Which are irrelevant and small

[pine ember]

WW2 wasnt just USA, USSR and Germany from 1943 onwards

[winter rover]

You can't cover everything mate

[pine ember]

It depends

[topaz lodge]

italian fought in africa and russia, small yes, ma not irrilevant

[winter rover]

Be glad you have Squad 44

[pine ember]

Thats obvious

[winter rover]

Which covers the Greeks, French (40 and 44), and Poles

[pine ember]

Since when does S44 have the Poles?

[finite berry]

Well, only the Polish Brigade, admittedly

[winter rover]

For Italy, I would like to have an Italian map too for them

[finite berry]

Polish paratroopers at Driel

Use British equipment

[winter rover]

Polish faction 1944 maps

[pine ember]

We are missing Finland, Polish 1939, USSR 1941

[fading carbon]

Japan, Italy, and China are the major countries missing

[pine ember]

We have that in HLL too

[winter rover]

Official Polish faction not a DLC

[finite berry]

^^

[winter rover]

For a map where the Poles didn't even fight

[pine ember]

There is basically no difference compared to the Brits

Polish in the USSR and a Lenino map could be cool

[winter rover]

Still better than just using Brits for everything

[topaz lodge]

in squad44 have , us, germany, british, polish brigade, france, greece, anzac

more nation

[pine ember]

But its getting boring seeing always the same factions, the same guns, the same maps

[winter rover]

Japanese and Marines too ^^ 😄

[topaz lodge]

yes

[winter rover]

Still would be nice to have an Italian front with a Canadian faction

[topaz lodge]

variety of nation with infantry, paratrooper, tanker

[winter rover]

Even though it would be a copy and paste of the Brits

[pine ember]

Just, for one time, add a different touch. You dont even have to make a whole game dedicated to it, make a mix of the good old content and some unique settings

[topaz lodge]

uniform very accurate

[pine ember]

Yea, but I would prefer early war maps

[winter rover]

Knowing the devs though, they'll make the Canadian faction and DLC lmao

Like how they did it for the Poles

[topaz lodge]

in squad 44 you can parachute into certain maps

[pine ember]

Canadians were planned in the Kickstarter

[winter rover]

For me I want an Italian front more than anything right now

[pine ember]

Just gimme some 1941/42 Eastern front, Finland, Poland 1939,...

[winter rover]

I wanna fight on the italian streets where the canadians fought

and of course monte cassino with the Poles

[pine ember]

With new maps, equipment and uniforms

Something that was never seen before

[wind shore]

Why PTE is updated and no new map?

I’m so excited to wait it

[winter rover]

First Sicily

[pine ember]

Nope

[winter rover]

And italy

[pine ember]

Kholm 1942 could be so good

[topaz lodge]

first italy in africa

[pine ember]

Lenino 1943

Kyiv 1941

[topaz lodge]

italian faction

[winter rover]

Italian front is new and unique

[pine ember]

Kalinin 1941

[winter rover]

we have eastern front already

[topaz lodge]

and finland

[pine ember]

So what? Eastern front 1941 would also be new and unique

[winter rover]

Italy will give us a completely new front

[winter rover]

Still the eastern front

[pine ember]

Different people want different things, learn to live with that

[wind shore]

Ohhh Italy when

[pine ember]

Just Brits, US, Germans with the same equipment, no thanks

[winter rover]

Germans could also use some Italian stuff

[pine ember]

I'd take that, but first expand the current fronts

[topaz lodge]

mab 38

[winter rover]

^

I really want one in game

[pine ember]

They barely did, the only gun they somewhat used was MAB38

[winter rover]

Much better than the MP40

[pine ember]

Depends

[winter rover]

It's better

[pine ember]

Nope

[topaz lodge]

I want factions, I don't care who gets released first

[winter rover]

Only thing better about the mp40 is the price to make it

[pine ember]

MAB38 was an excellent gun but MP40 was way better

[winter rover]

But as a gun the MAB38 was better

[pine ember]

This

[pine ember]

Not really

[winter rover]

It was lmao

[nova pivot]

Self glazing 🫵

[pine ember]

MP40 - controllable, compact,...

[winter rover]

MAB38 was also very controllable

[pine ember]

There is a reason why the Germans used that over almost anything else

[winter rover]

With a higher rate of fire

Offered three diff mag types

[pine ember]

That isnt always better

[winter rover]

Select fire

[pine ember]

A SMG doesnt need select fire

[winter rover]

Mab38:
More accurate, higher rate of fire, double-feed 20, 30, 40 round mags (vs MP40's single feed (double feed was more reliable since it was less prone to jam), was machined steel, making it a higher quality made gun

The Germans loved the MAB

Only thing better about the mp40 was it was cheaper and slightly lighter

Stop overglorifying the mp40 dude lmao

[pine ember]

More accurate: Yes, but not that relevant at SMG range. Higer rate of fire: Isnt needed. Different mag size: Ok. Machined steel: Yes, better quality (though the MP40 also had a good quality), but makes it expensive

[pine ember]

For the German doctrine it was suited much better

[winter rover]

MAB was better in terms of quality, reliability, and performance on the battlefield

[pine ember]

I think we can agree that HLL WW2 needs more content

[nova pivot]

He with everything that is German made lol

[pine ember]

It depends how you look on it, but ok

[nova pivot]

Yes

[pine ember]

That isnt true either

[winter rover]

You're so blinded dude

[pine ember]

I could say the same about you

[winter rover]

How?

[nova pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-ok-if-you-say-so-awkward-gif-16902757

[winter rover]

What can you say about me?

I'm not choosing sides and being biased

[pine ember]

So do I

[winter rover]

?

[winter rover]

Well, when shooting a target at like 150m, yeah select fire would be nice to have....

[pine ember]

You might think I am biased, but I look at it with an objective standpoint too, whilst considering the Armys needs and doctrine. I'm not a guy that just looks at the hard facts

[pine ember]

An SMG isnt there to precision fire at 150 metres

[winter rover]

You're literally denying the MAB was a better gun lmao

[winter rover]

The MAB can accurately shoot up to 250m

[pine ember]

So what? I see no issue with that

[pine ember]

The MP40 was accurate too, but we were about select fire

[winter rover]

Because you're wrong and won't accept the facts

[winter rover]

MAB was more accurate

[pine ember]

And thats false. 1v1 Mab38 might be better. For equipping an Army the MP40 was the better choice

[pine ember]

Still: Does an SMG need select fire in its role?

[winter rover]

So thank you, the MAB was overall a better gun

[winter rover]

Even the ppsh had one

[pine ember]

In a 1v1 engagement maybe

[empty steppe]

Mp-40 was better than the MAB

[pine ember]

Did the PPSh need it?

[empty steppe]

Yes 👍

[winter rover]

No because it had terrible range

But the MAB could shoot at range accurately

[pine ember]

Dude, you need to accept that you arent always right and others are always wrong and "biased"

People look at the things with a different standpoint

[empty steppe]

I think most troops actually used the ppsh on semi auto

[winter rover]

All my points I have made are facts, not opinions

[pine ember]

The MP40 could too, but ok, lets ignore that

[pine ember]

So are mine

[winter rover]

The MAB was much more accurate

[empty steppe]

🍿😮

[covert elbow]

Everyone knows the Thompson was the best SMG of the war so both of you shush

[pine ember]

Does an SMG need to be as accurate as a rifle?

[pine ember]

I prefer the KP31

[empty steppe]

Nah grease gun

[pine ember]

That thing was much better than anything

[winter rover]

Would be nice to have an accurate smg even when engaging at range lol, not all fights are close

[covert elbow]

Okay Mr PPSH knock off

[winter rover]

Even up close, the MAB had a 40 round mag and higher rate of fire lmao

[pine ember]

An SMG isnt built to be accurate or for long range fights

[empty steppe]

It’s a ppd knock off 😉

[pine ember]

Dude what?

[empty steppe]

Just better

[pine ember]

Its the other way around

[empty steppe]

Kp-31 was amazing

[winter rover]

Only thing better about the MP40 was it was cheaper to produce, nothing more

[pine ember]

"LmAo"

[dim snow]

Not a patch on the sten gun 🥱

[covert elbow]

No

[pine ember]

And it was more compact and better suited for the Germans overall (Its still accurate, has a decent rate of fire and is way more reliable)

KP31 best SMG of the war

[empty steppe]

Ah yes, I stand corrected 😂

[winter rover]

I'm choosing the MAB: more reliable, accurate, harder punch, with bigger mags

[pine ember]

Did you seriously think the glorious Soviet engineers came up with the design themselves?😂

[winter rover]

Higher rate of fire, better range, select fire, larger mag

[pine ember]

If I just play a game I maybe would too