mess-hall

[lavish sparrow]

source on the vietcong getting access to extremely rare 20 year old german weapons in sizable numbers?

[winter rover]

How the f*** are you going to counter mortars

[night lark]

Ofc. There always has to be a loser. If you dont like losing, play better

[lavish sparrow]

also the cong arent in this game

[analog apex]

and if there is also no deeper player damage model

[night lark]

The ssme way you do in squad lol

[wind shore]

How does they called?

[proven dagger]

yet

[lavish sparrow]

what

[winter rover]

yeah you clearly don't know then

[wind shore]

Vietnam army

[night lark]

I do. You listen and triangulate then counter battery with your own mortars. I have 500 hours in squad. Its not that hard

[pine ember]

https://wwiiafterwwii.wordpress.com/2015/07/10/wwii-german-weapons-during-the-vietnam-war/

[lavish sparrow]

North Vietnam

[pine ember]

Was used by the Cong and the NVA

[wind shore]

They fought against South Vietnam?

[winter rover]

"you listen"
while your whole team is almost trapped in the circle, shots, explosions, tank shots, grenades happening every second. Yeah good luck mate

[lavish sparrow]

And the US

[pine ember]

Yep, thats the whole point

[wind shore]

King Kong gorilla? 🦍

🗿

[night lark]

Skill issue. Dont get bottled up in the defense point. As i said earlier, there has to be a loser and if you dont want to lose then defend better

Your three man mortar squad or recon can easily triangulate

[arctic otter]

has it been confirmed if HLL:V is using a new game engine, or is it the same?

[winter rover]

This happens like 80% of time for defenders.

[wind shore]

So and now Vietnam it’s just whole Vietnam, single, or also south and north?

[lavish sparrow]

the fg is definitley too rare to make it in but that is fascinating that one showed up

[pine ember]

Its one vietnam

[winter rover]

Doesn't mean you lose lol, the defenders sometimes hold out till the timer runs out

[pine ember]

Sadly its too rare

But it was used

[night lark]

Then why are you complaining?

[wind shore]

I thought it is the same as Korea - Vietnam

[winter rover]

I'm not complaining, I'm telling you mortars would be too op

[pine ember]

Not anymore

[winter rover]

I'm explaining what the situation looks like and now imagine adding mortars

[arctic otter]

New game eninge for Vietnam?

[thin lotus]

Suffering from made up scenarios in your head

[wind shore]

Both of them Asians, and at all, they at all looks the same on 1 face, Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese. I can’t understand the difference, for me it’s like 1 country in Asia

[thin lotus]

No one knows how it’s going to work yet

[proven dagger]

unreal5

[pine ember]

Not for them

[lavish sparrow]

Vietnam was primarily a civil war between the communist north and capitalist south. The viet cong were a guerrila group fighting the capitalists in the south. The US intervened on the side of the south, but had to pull out. Then the communists took the whole country.

[wind shore]

I see no difference between Koreans or Vietnamese, Chinese or Japanese. For me it’s the same country

[proven dagger]

??

[lavish sparrow]

me when Im stupid

[pine ember]

Not for most people

Russia and Vietnam are the same country, both are in Asia

[wind shore]

Who won then? And how long it was the war in Vietnam

[wind shore]

Also western Russia?

[lavish sparrow]

The communists won, the war took 20 years in total. Though the US intervention was a shorter part of that.

[pine ember]

Yes

[thin lotus]

Is there a Vietnam history containment section yet

[winter rover]

the vietnam war sucks

[wind shore]

And now it’s capitalist or communist country, Vietnam?

[lavish sparrow]

communist for a while but has shifted back to free markets.

[winter rover]

Give us another HLL ww2 game but on UE5

[proven dagger]

implying war is good

[pine ember]

We can only guess why👀

[wind shore]

And now they still in war or no, Vietnam?

Are they making cotton and boots?

[winter rover]

referring to it's boring and who gaf about it lmao

[lavish sparrow]

it ended 50 years ago. Idk what they export.

[winter rover]

WW1/2 is more interesting, would've preferred a WW1 HLL instead even though it would probably die

[storm granite]

hi

[lavish sparrow]

Vietnam is a less important part of history than WW2 but tbh it fits much better with HLLs gameplay

Im not worried about everyone having automatics in 1965 for example

[proven dagger]

it already feels like I die to autos 90% of the time in HLL anyways so

[hardy oasis]

To be fair, what is or isn't interesting is highly subjective

[winter rover]

That's just the designer's choice

[lavish sparrow]

and HLL has a ton of ratting through bushes and whatnot.

[winter rover]

That there are so many autos

If they made it realisic, a good chunk of the pop would leave

[lavish sparrow]

probably not but thats a whole seperate thing. End of the day, the flow of gameplay in HLL line up more with the gear, kit, and environments of this war rather than ww2.

[winter rover]

It would

[lavish sparrow]

Plus i suspect Nam could get maps out faster when they dont need to make maps on different parts of the world.

[winter rover]

Semis and autos are way too accessible in HLL

Unlock the G43 for riflemen, and you wouldn't ever have to touch a bolt action ever again if you don't want to

[proven dagger]

can we get heavy rain so i cant see more than a foot in front of me

"best i can do is foggy night"

[winter rover]

Want an MP40? STG? etc? Join a squad with like a person or two in it

or make your own, someone joins, leave and rejoin and you have every class

It's why there are so many people playing HLL

[worthy charm]

*20 Squads in the team limit (if im not mistaken)

[winter rover]

Make it like Squad 44 where you're stuck with a kar98k 80% of the time whether you like it or not, and lot of people gonna stop playing

[worthy charm]

Playercount on console drops by 95% xD

[lavish sparrow]

in no world is this the main driver for HLLs player retention

[winter rover]

for a good handful of people yeah it is

[iron siren]

"Won" is a tricky word when it comes to Vietnam. In a socio politically the NVA and the Chinese/Soviets who proxied them won.

From a militaristic standpoint the U.S., ARVN, and allies consistently had far less casualties and dealt far more.

Problem with Vietnam was there was really no way to win. We weren't land grabbing, it wasn't a battle of attrition. A complete takeover of north Vietnam and an installation of safe political allies would've worked, maybe. But south Vietnam had their own issues and wasn't necessarily the most reliable all the time. On top of that you had VK that forced us into this super ineffective counter insurgency style of warfare thst continues to drag wars on forever to this day.
Vietnam lost popular favor in the states, much like Afghanistan, we just didn't really see a good reason to be there, but NVA didn't hear no bell either. So we withdrew

[lavish sparrow]

a whole handful (who would then come back after 2 weeks when no other game scratches that itch)

[winter rover]

If HLL made a WW1 game, it would die quickly trust

[winter rover]

The ich also includes being able to easily use a semi or auto

[lavish sparrow]

end of the day, we had a goal and we failed to achieve it. Thats losing, and the issue is not how our men fought but the fact that our leaders picked an unwinnable battle

[lavish sparrow]

It isnt.
like flat out.

[novel mantle]

He's got a point, I also believe the accessibility of weapons plays a large part in the high player count

It's why I'm here lol

[lavish sparrow]

HLL had good player retention and a growing base from its inception. At launch, autos were very scarce.
HLLs popularity comes form it being easy to learn, and from it having much better graphics than the rest of the genre.

[winter rover]

The playercount *will * drop if the devs made the classes more realistic

Imagine being German and you're stuck with a kar vs Americans who all have semis

Yikes

[iron siren]

Yeah I can agree with that. I think direct Chinese or Russian intervention from a large conventional war was a big deterrent. I think we were also there with a mind of rebuilding like we did in west Germany. But we didn't stop the spread of communism and that was our public mission statement so that's an L

[thin lotus]

Accessibility to certain weaponry isn’t the root of the issue. The issue’s root cause is the relative effectiveness of the weaponry compared to its lesser counterparts.
Every weapon in hll is laserbeam accurate. But no one bats an eye that automatics can oneshot up to 100m, and semis oneshot up to 200m. That is boneheaded stupid damage values to have considering those weapons inherent traits.

[lavish sparrow]

this was the game for a long while. It was an issue but it didnt impede growth. Adding automatics wasnt some silver bullet to make the game accessible, it always was accessible. Instead it was a bandaid fix for their inavility to balance the garand (an issue which other games in this genre managed to deal with).

[heavy dune]

Cs2 graphic better

[lavish sparrow]

it also created a f**kload of issues when newer factions were added

[lavish sparrow]

sure but compare HLL to Squad or Post Scriptum and its not hard to see why HLL is eye catching. It especially excells in tone, being brutal and unrelenting while other milsims are much more quiet.

[heavy dune]

Yh lol easily

[lavish sparrow]

what

HLLs gunplay is braindead easy

Im actually very curious how guns will handle in HLLV

[heavy dune]

Not really

Compared with val and cs2

[lavish sparrow]

he doesnt know

[proven dagger]

cap

[heavy dune]

?

[thin lotus]

It is about as simple as you can get these days in an fps game

[heavy dune]

Its simple but annoying

[proven dagger]

i fire my thompson and pull down

PEAK gameplay

[lavish sparrow]

guns in HLL are much easier to control than in CS and have more forgiving hitboxes.

[heavy dune]

Yeah

Oh wait

I’m slow

[lavish sparrow]

we know

[molten sail]

???

the gunplay is the most bland simple gun play ever concieved

[winter rover]

Being able to jump in and use a Garand, MP40, stg 44, or BAR makes the game immediately more fun for many people over being stuck with a bolt action whenever you play

[heavy dune]

:(

[lavish sparrow]

you can keep repeating this but it wont change the fact that youre drastically exaggerating its importance

[winter rover]

because it's true

The people I used to play with would have never stayed if they were stuck with a bolt action whenever they played German

Even I wouldn't play this game anymore tbh

[proven dagger]

Very rarely do I play Sq44 but when I do use the bolts they're fun and usable because comparatively you don't move like molasses. The bolt speed is horrificly slow and you're not rewarded for using them at all.

I think that's the main problem. Bolts just suck in HLL.

[winter rover]

If I'm going to be forced to use a kar98k whenever I played, there would be no reason for me to play this game

i'd rather just go play Squad 44

I play HLL mainly because it's more casual and I can use whatever gun I want

[lavish sparrow]

Plus Sq44 has a pacing such that the fire rate advantage of the M1 doesnt really matter. Your bigger decisions shape the outcome of a match more and the fights are so long range that spamming fire isnt helpful

[finite berry]

<@&365680483276816385>

[cyan saddle]

Honeypotted

[lavish sparrow]

Briski, you can keep repeating this. I simply wont believe you.
If they shifted to old classes youd be back in a month at most.

[analog apex]

money, money, money 😄

[proven dagger]

If they buffed the operation speed of bolts and removed access to so many semi/auto's I really don't think the playerbase would change that much.

[winter rover]

I wouldn't be back because I play German only and don't remember the last time I even touched the kar

[proven dagger]

You're still playing a game that is fundamentally easier to approach than say Sq44.

[thin lotus]

Semis would need to be dialed down. Bolt changes alone wouldnt change anything

[lavish sparrow]

issue is that there are so many loadouts and factions now that it would require a very large sweep of the kits and a fuckload of testing to get right.

[lavish sparrow]

the jenga tower of bad design

[thin lotus]

Semis oneshotting to 200m was and always will be stupid

[proven dagger]

I can't really comment other than they should just spend a year putting out no new content and just spend it fixing/changing the game.

[winter rover]

Take a look at WW1 games and how dead they are in comparison

if HLL did WW1 it would die

[lavish sparrow]

does this guy have any original thoughts?

[winter rover]

Isonzo is easy and fun

But look at its player count

[proven dagger]

people don't care about WW1 and they release a new game every few years killing their previous game

verdun, tannenburg, isonzo, now gallipoli.

[winter rover]

Why would they care? Stuck with bolt actions and trenches

[proven dagger]

WW1 is a niche that not a lot of people care about.

[lavish sparrow]

honeslty I kinda fw it. Theyre not too concerned about the long term, they just want to make a game with these battles and its fine when that ends.

[thin lotus]

Conflating issues.
“But what about [different game with completely different systems], hmmmm?”

[winter rover]

Only reason bf1 is still alive is because it has a sh*tton of autos

[lavish sparrow]

the game's gameplay is also generally repetative. Theres not a ton of actual depth to it.

[winter rover]

depends on the map

[lavish sparrow]

it doesnt.

[winter rover]

Look at beyond the wire maps

[proven dagger]

You could say it's because of the autos but battlefield 1's gameplay is also just fundamentally different compared to say Verdun. You're not running trench to trench it's purposely over the top and fast paced.

[iron siren]

No? That's actually pretty bang on. Average firefight in world war II was about 100m

Mp40 has a kill range of 200m
Thompson:150m
Gewher 43: 500-800m (scoped vs non scoped)
Stg44- 350m
BAR- 300-1500m

I dont really understand what is bonded stupid here. Shooting is pretty accurate representation too. The Thompson and ppsh41 have a crazy kick. The slower firing mp40s snd grease guns dont. Semi autos have recoil, pistols have recoil like. What's wrong here?

[lavish sparrow]

thats a seperate game.
bro does not have a grasp of what he actually enjoys and it shows

[winter rover]

It's a WW1 game and has a ton of depth to it lol

[proven dagger]

its also dead

their depth ultimately meant nothing

[winter rover]

It's not verdun where its tight and you're stuck doing the same thing over and over

[thin lotus]

Cool. Hll is a game with set damage values where players shoot eachother with their choice of controls. You’ve missed the point completely

[proven dagger]

more depth doesn't = better

[winter rover]

Because it's realistic and WW1 - which no know cares about

[lavish sparrow]

BTW was solid but ran into another issue: its a 100 player indie game in a niche market. Games like that are hard to sell people on in terms of longevity on paper. That doesnt even account for the fact that the game played better on a half empty server which meant any growth would quickly die down. Finally Im not sure the devs knew what their final vision was as the latter changes seem random.

[proven dagger]

I don't even remember the game being marketed that much.

[winter rover]

Doesn't matter what they could have done

Would have never been popular

[lavish sparrow]

it does but you simply lack imagination and seem to have warped your entire taste of games around this one argument.

like honestly idk why youre still in this conversation since you dont seem to have any insight to bring.

[winter rover]

Game would have died regardless of whatever they did

It was doomed from the start

[lavish sparrow]

like clockwork good lord.

[winter rover]

Even Isonzo a more casual game can't do well

[analog apex]

However firefight doesn't mean one shot one kill on such distances - one would miss much more.

In HLL though, the weapons are too accurate, it's too easy to land precise **repeated **shots.

[lavish sparrow]

I honest to god think an LLM would have a more insightful take here.

[iron siren]

The set damage values are bang on though. I mean other than crippling wounds i don't understand the point trying to be made i guess you're right. The problem is that HLL guns are for the most part reflective of their real life counterparts?

[lavish sparrow]

oh they are definitley not reflective of irl counterparts

[thin lotus]

I sense you don’t actually know what hlls weapon damage values are

[pine ember]

LLM is the post graduate degree for laws

[lavish sparrow]

what? I meant a large language model. An ai

[pine ember]

Ah

I only knew the degree

[iron siren]

( weapon type) at (x) range =1 shot
(weapon tyle) at (x) range=2shots

That's what you're referring to right?

[thin lotus]

Overall yes, but specifically the meter distances of those

[lavish sparrow]

and do you know the hitbox regions?

[iron siren]

Yeah generally. Haven't looked at like the actual region starts and ends but I've got a good idea from just playing

[lavish sparrow]

so fun fact, there are only 3 hitbox regions.
guns that 1 shot to the torso will one shot to your hand

[thin lotus]

People will fret on about how hardcore getting oneshot is (it’s not in terms of effort btw), but then not give any thought about how getting shot in the hand with a semi within 200m is functionally the same as getting riddled with hundreds of rounds from an mg. Both of which, in Hll, put the target in the same revivable “downed” state.

[silk igloo]

dwarf fortress damage mechanics when

[iron siren]

Okay I must've missed the "shot in the hand" part here. Maybe that's where the confusion is. I guess I've always kind of been okay with the arm being part of the torso region as its always kind of right there by your torso. Can't recall a time where I felt I got shot in the hand or shot someone in the hand

[proven dagger]

I've winged people and one shot them plenty of times with them running around a corner where they shouldn't have really died but did.

Garand go brrrrr

is it not silly that you can miss like 7 rounds but tag them somewhere in the hand and instakill them.

[iron siren]

Yeah that may be more t17 connectivity than gun mechanics though.

I have shot people in the hip a few times and dropped them, but that makes sense too. They're not dead as a medic can pick then up. I can't see someone acting any differently post shattered pelvis

[hasty ore]

a butterfly bandage and they'll be fiiiine

[iron siren]

Okay yeah I see what you're saying now. Makes lot more sense. I'd thought you were referring to like a center mass shot

[wind shore]

@wind shore

[wind shore]

?

[warm flax]

Ok having tanks in both side is good (balance) and also it doesnt really matter much if the US have helicopters as long as theyre transport helicopters.

[frozen plover]

GUYS HELL LET LOOSE VIETNAM REAL????

[wind shore]

t55 maybe

[worthy charm]

Nah its an April 1st joke

In September

[frozen plover]

its not april doe

[worthy charm]

Its still August

[pine ember]

M48 Patton

[worthy charm]

Damn my feeling for time is dead

[wind shore]

Would you play Vietnamese or Americans in HLL Vietnam?

[wind shore]

communists

[pine ember]

Australians

[wind shore]

You’ve seen the trailer

[proven dagger]

australlia

[wind shore]

I would play Americans more I guess

Or Vietnamese

[wind shore]

i dont like you

(

[ivory scaffold]

I imagine HLL Vietnam will go towards symmetrical vs Asymmetrical on faction balance too since the Vietcong had decent weapons compared to everyone scrambling to go German when the Brit maps pop up here.

[wind shore]

just joking

[ivory scaffold]

What do YOU guys think?

[wind shore]

I’m not about balance, I love faction for skins and weapons

I love to play certain faction just for skins

i hope we get the t55

[pine ember]

They have the cooler stuff

[wind shore]

Or amount of them

[wind shore]

Tank?

[warm flax]

Since vietnam wont have choppers i guess its kinda unfair if they give the american team attack choppers

[wind shore]

yes

[pine ember]

As long as we get the Australians or South Koreans

Or the Finnish man that fought

[ivory scaffold]

We’ll have the M16 compared to their AK 47 right? Didn’t the Vietcong have a decent semi rifle too?

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/you-speak-french-gerry-dee-family-feud-canada-are-you-fluent-in-french-gif-703854049366540845

[proven dagger]

SKS..?

[wind shore]

next we need korean war

[pine ember]

SKS

[pine ember]

Non monsieur

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/wo-t-tank-army-military-fight-gif-5651966

this tank for Vietnam

Wow!

[pine ember]

Wasnt the T54 more common?

[warm flax]

Then the bombing run in this new game will be a napalm barrage

[nova pivot]

The pt was more common

[wind shore]

i dont realy now

[proven dagger]

I was seeing the T34-85 pop up quite frequently.

[ivory scaffold]

Oh you’re right! Thanks for the correction there.

[pine ember]

I hope we get the L1A1

Or M1 Garand

[nova pivot]

We already have that

[wind shore]

Which AK’s they got? Vietnamese army. It was AK47 and Russian Hand Machine Gun RPK or RPM 47 with scopes?

[wind shore]

really in vietnam

[pine ember]

Aussies more cooler than Americans, change my mind

[ivory scaffold]

I hope we get the Mel Gibson skin so we can all be real soldiers.

[proven dagger]

PT76 VS Patrol Boat when

[pine ember]

Yes

[wind shore]

ok

[nova pivot]

🤝

[pine ember]

https://tenor.com/view/australia-kangoroo-flipped-down-under-gif-8562677137303281559

[wind shore]

It’s me

[warm flax]

F4 vs Mig

[proven dagger]

id kms if they added playable jets

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-crash-da5bloods-vietnam-war-vietnam-gif-20477285

I would prefer to play as US soldier I guess in HLL Vietnam.

[wind shore]

i dont play then with you hll vietnam just hll ww2

[thin lotus]

Dark skin cosmetic advantage
🙊 🙈 🙉

[proven dagger]

rising storm classic

[warm flax]

Are we still getting arty in Vietnam if theyll add mortars in this game?

[wind shore]

@wind shore When you were at France, were you at Eiffel Tower bro?

[wind shore]

no

[wind shore]

i never was in france

good night

[pine ember]

https://tenor.com/view/france-squawk-gif-27394149

[wind shore]

I guess you are secretly French lover

[pine ember]

I like it there

[spark wadi]

Hey how do you post in the console division recruitment.

[vagrant shale]

is HLL vietnam out yet?

[worthy charm]

Nope, comes out next year.

[vagrant shale]

dang

im so hype

[past vortex]

kedo talking to his alt.....

[digital vale]

Yes

[lavish sparrow]

kinda wierd for a series named after a ww2 book to make a game not based on ww2.

[ebon nebula]

If hell let lose Vietnam got announce. Is it gonna be a separate game? Just curious because I am so excited for it when it comes out.

[fluid pawn]

It's going to be it's own game. Will be running UE5 🫡

[ebon nebula]

Oh ok thank u very much I can wait for the game be out next year

[vagrant shale]

its not that weird

[lavish sparrow]

its kinda wierd.
it make sense but its funny how it turns out like that

[vagrant shale]

lol true

[lavish sparrow]

maybe give it a tagline from another max hastings book

[tight trout]

when does vietnam come

and is that the burning lands remake

[lavish sparrow]

2026. If burning lands wasnt cancelled then its probably cooked now

[tight trout]

its its own game

Hell Let Loose: Vietnam, I thought it was a update

will there be a seperate discord

[cosmic pilot]

Same discord as here

[tight trout]

will be cross play wow

[cosmic pilot]

Look on roles assignment

[cosmic pilot]

Not cross between console and pc

[tight trout]

they made a chennel I see

[tight trout]

says on there steam so yeah

[cosmic pilot]

There is a parrot in here

[frosty helm]

cant wait for vietnam

how come i cant see the rest of the hell lose loose vietnam channels?

[proven dagger]

react to the message in #telegrams

[frosty helm]

thankyou

[tight trout]

did burning lands give them the idea

[wintry dune]

Any suggestions on how to fix the audio glitch PS5

[frosty helm]

is your audio on in the audio settings? , is your connection set to hdmi?, Verify that "Switch Output Device Automatically" is enabled

i dont own a ps5, just searched

[wintry dune]

I did all that already, it's starting to piss me off tho. I'm tryna communicate with my team and can't.

[kind void]

Hello, dear Gentlements i have an appointment to make, i need to ask a question: Will Hell Let Loose : Vietnam be the same Game or will it be an extra Game wich we have to purchase ''again''?.

[worthy charm]

Its will be a separate game, developed by a different team.

[kind void]

Okay, thank you.

[past veldt]

Woah I was reading that

[worthy charm]

Bro was smited

[urban bluff]

Hello all 🙂

[hasty ore]

he's smitten?

[worthy charm]

He got smited, like in smite, like in League of Legends!!!

[hasty ore]

i bet he has smite on his F, ew.

...smote. Smoted.

[gentle lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/you-rebel-scum-star-wars-gif-5654898

[finite berry]

I read his name with that specific voice in my head xD

[zealous fern]

Wait wait wait…

VIETNAM OF ALL THINGS??? /vpos

God that’s definitely a good one .0.

[wind shore]

I’m living in Vietnam, Hong Cong

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

[nova pivot]

That looks like a Pacific image, look at the lvt and the helmet

[wind shore]

huh

Vietnam!!!

[full forum]

is this a

very early/late idk

1st of april

joke

[echo karma]

8 different teams with AAA management leaders guys

Meanwhile litterly no-one talking about the pte

[worthy charm]

I wouldnt dare do doubt your premium insider knowledge but this doesnt seem to make sense

The PTE is over for a few days there is nothing to talk about anymore

[echo karma]

Yall gon make a separate discord?

[worthy charm]

Obviously no

I assume you dont took the roles so you dont see the new channels

[echo karma]

Nah I could care less. Big FU to hll but oh well

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-if-you-love-vietnam-gif-7313253380193443565

Scream!!!!!!

[worthy charm]

@nova pivot I give you the fault for this

[wind shore]

🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[echo karma]

Vietnam has been done before man. We tired of it.

[open crater]

Who's we

[wind shore]

Have you seen the trailer?

[echo karma]

It looked bad

[open crater]

"Where's the info"
"It's right there - get the roles"
"Nah I don't care enough"

[nova pivot]

🥺

[echo karma]

You'll see on release. Zero innovation yet again

Why are they hellbent on 50v50

[wind shore]

I think it looks fresh about Vietnam

[worthy charm]

True, more players are always better

-# /s

[echo karma]

It looks like I'll get 5fps unless I have a 6090

[open crater]

Muph wants to know when they're adding battle royale mode

[echo karma]

Lmao no.

[open crater]

Get with the times, old men and women
We need innovation

[echo karma]

Tho tbf the framework is here for a solid single player game

[worthy charm]

Tomorrow

[open crater]

Like a ring that closes and last man standing wins

[worthy charm]

I saw a leak one reddit

[open crater]

(v:

[worthy charm]

-# /s

[echo karma]

Expression games is doing the vietnam?

[wind shore]

Những người Việt này ngồi trên cây! Cây nói tiếng Việt.

[echo karma]

I still haven't found anything out about them but I didn't look go hard tbh

[worthy charm]

In English please 🤓

[wind shore]

Since now only on Vietnamese

[echo karma]

Odd they get napalm before us

[stuck jackal]

Does anybody else get screen tearing constantly? I upgraded from a 3080ti to 5080 and the game ran flawlessly on my old card. Now it is constantly screen tearing.

[open crater]

???

[echo karma]

Oh and mortars

[echo karma]

Refresh rate?

[worthy charm]

Mortars metioned the whole chat discussion is ruined now

[echo karma]

I don't think anybody cares. Game will be abandoned soon

[stuck jackal]

I’ve tried v sync on/off both in game and nvidia control panel. I’ve tried v sync off and gsync enabled.

Monitor is lg c2 so 120 hz

[open crater]

uhh

napalm wasnt really used until like, what.
1944? And very few instances?

[echo karma]

Vsync is trash most of the time but it does smooth things out

[stuck jackal]

Have tried launch options dx12 and use all available cores. Idk what the issue is but HLL is the only game I get tearing.

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/you-speak-french-gerry-dee-family-feud-canada-are-you-fluent-in-french-gif-703854049366540845

[open crater]

It was either invented in 1942 or 1944
Either way, it's use wasnt for another couple of years in "combat"

[echo karma]

Fire bombs<napalm. And white phosphorus too

[wind shore]

Salut ! Bonne journée !

I’ve seen trailer it looks nice for me

[open crater]

Another thing that wasn't really used toooo much until later on in the war, WP

I mean. Sure, it's DEFINITELY more than napalm, but.. Seems like a bit of a gimick in this specific format of game

I can see it being great for halting pushes or flushing out encampments, but.. Whats the counter?

In a video game, there has to be soome level of balancing.

More HQ#2 camping? (v:

In just about any match nowadays, the moment you reach 15-20 kills (perhaps each) in a little 2 or 3 person artillery squad, it's pretty much HLL law that an entire enemy squad must snake their way to your HQ and sit there for the rest of the game

At least - that's how it seems to be.

[wind shore]

||https://youtu.be/wEPX3V5T63M?si=qeB0XRqDZiWE0cmQ Victory song in Vietnam )||

So Vietnam vibe in trailer is interesting

[marble axle]

not realy .... vietnam is not a good setting for semi-milsim shooter because how unbalance firepower/tech it was . fighting for underdog fun in single player game or movie because you have plot armor and game setting favor you win . PVP shooter doesn't have that . most players gonna quit or join the stronger side if they are on the receiving end of superior tech/fight power without plot armor hand-holding them to victory . rising storm 2 is the brightest exam of it , 99% of people either quit or stick with US side .

[versed turtle]

i hope i see some sort of soviet troop in the game

[wind shore]

It’s gonna be balanced for sure

[marble axle]

they can not unless nva/vc get free delploy HMG to counter heli , rifle grenade to counter m79 , T-54/pt76/t-34 to counter m48/m41 . type 63 twin 37mm and btr-52 with twin 14.5mm to counter m42 duster and m113 . that gonna piss off so many US fan just want to steamroll vc with superior firepower . dev not gonna want that happen

[wind shore]

Personally me don’t care about balance much

I chose sides for uniforms

[marble axle]

then the game die quick just like rising storm 2

nobody want to become other guy punching bag that the truth

[versed turtle]

what an absolute chad of a statement

[marble axle]

there a obivious reason why vietnam shooter so rare , because it hard to do right . you want realistic you kill the game , you want balance you also kill the game . a lose-lose case

[wind shore]

Cause I like it

[versed turtle]

another chad statement

[wind shore]

I would pick up Vietnamese soldiers for Kalashnikov MG and AK 47,and US side just only for uniforms

[hollow lion]

i cant really tell all that well but are the hll vietnam graphics just the same as hll?

[slate canopy]

It will be on UE5, which currently HLL is on UE4, so it maybe more updated versions?

We don't know 🙂

[vagrant shale]

i wish HLL: vietnam came out today!

it's going to be the smash hit video game experience of the century!

[hasty ore]

you may wanna pin that because you KNOW that'll be a common question :D

[wind shore]

The trailer is on UE5, UE5 has extremely improved graphics and lighting

[slate canopy]

🤫 There is an FAQ on the website!

[hasty ore]

I'm just hoping we can get anti aliasing that doesn't look like a computer from 1998 desperately struggling to make a curved line O:

[wind shore]

It is very realistic, like hyper realism graphics on Unreal Engine 5, the difference is big. It’s like recording film

[hasty ore]

how dare you hit me with reasonable facts and solutions!

[slate canopy]

https://www.hellletloose.com/blog/faqs

😉 Have a read!

[hasty ore]

damn and you even knew i was literally typing out what the site was

Darn you.

May all the ban appeals you read be well written and in properly spaced out paragraphs.

[cyan saddle]

Ha

[slate canopy]

🤭 If only...

[cyan saddle]

no

[hasty ore]

on my discord i think we receive about 1 well written appeal that ISN'T ai out of like... 200 xDDD good luck boyos

[cyan saddle]

And if they are its probably written by AI

[hasty ore]

y me banned, i only said 30 slurs because someone disagreed with me abt mortars.

ah. ah sorry, i said mortars.

[wind shore]

Where

[wind shore]

Where you were banned

[hasty ore]

i was being sarcastic and making a joke.

[covert elbow]

I should be a mod

[empty steppe]

The day gta 6 comes out you’ll be a mod

[covert elbow]

So may 26th, 2026?

[empty steppe]

Sure

[covert elbow]

Copy

[wind shore]

GTA 6 will not come in May, 2026

It’s possibly would be in Autumn, it was already like tradition to launch games on Autumn

[shell venture]

okay I saw the trailer for Hell Let Loose vietnam and im fcking hyped

[jovial cosmos]

Guys I don’t see the option to change my mouse sensitivity only controller sensitivity and I’m playing on pc

[neat garnet]

Is that hell let loose Vietnam gang?

What the fuh

[past vortex]

bug on gamepass version, known and no fix yet

[jovial cosmos]

How long has it been known and not fixed?

[past vortex]

idk few weeks

feel free to report again

#player-support

[bitter cipher]

Hi

[wind shore]

Hi

[somber bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-rising-storm-vietnam-ho-chi-minh-gaming-gif-25741115

[wind shore]

HLLV

So have to wait until 26

[analog apex]

just redeploy man... 😏

[raw patio]

Im looking for a new shooter and saw the reveal of hll Vietnam. Is Hll still active on ps5?

[wind shore]

Do you know how it’s about console now? I’ve joined clan which played comp games, for 2 months of my absent - clan became non active. + WRTB clan was one of the famous on console, it’s getting reformed. And also the situation changed since January 2025.

Cause no new players coming into Hell let Loose, and if they come - 80% of players doesn’t even use mics. It’s became uncommon that somebody use microphone and communicating. On console things is going bad

The problem is about new players, they slowly joining the game, and that’s the problem

It’s like:

https://tenor.com/view/steppenläufer-tumbleweed-windy-gif-12143667

[oak current]

ah I was too late

[wind shore]

Now, on console

[oak current]

wanted to type 🍍 🍒 🗼

[wind shore]

It was supposed to be gif there

[oak current]

it be very gif

[wind shore]

Things on console is bad, with comp and with vanilla players

[oak current]

so with players

[wind shore]

When I was absent in clan, for 2 months since May, when I came - it was non active already, when I asked what happened - they said they will continue playing comp in September MAYBE! Cause none of new players.

WRTB clan reformed, other clans became or turning into non active

[oak current]

Summer stuff

[wind shore]

Yes, and comp

[wind shore]

Whole clan getting reformed lol

[wind shore]

It wasn’t like this last summer

( I meant so much like this )

[heady escarp]

What happened in WRTB?

[oak current]

comp is also players

[wind shore]

I’ve heard they reformed

[oak current]

no need to always divide people, when its about all

[wind shore]

About vanilla it’s different situation - nobody talking on console

80% I would say

Before it was more players with mics, now, only 5-10 people in whole side

Full squads with out microphones, it’s difficult to catch some players with roles which needed

[wind shore]

Are you sure? Me not

That after this Sommer things will go up

Player count was down, and that’s terrible news. 20.000+ on PC, this January, and 5.000+ on console with server browser. Now it’s terrible online.

I would play HLL Vietnam next year, and of course would continue playing current HLL, cause it would be my favourite and in my heart.

[wind shore]

Just dropping white phosphorus in tunnel network 🗿

And Vietnamese soldiers will run out from the holes

Hope will be funny fighting in the night jungles, so immersive, sadly that AKs would be only on 1 side - US side

I don’t like M16

I also would like to dig holes

[jade yarrow]

Why does my hll resets like once a few week showing the terms of agreements again setting my volume to max and basically resetting everything because tbh I nearly fell of my chair because I had suddenly 100% volume sfx instead of my normal 50%

[analog apex]

because it's badly implemented

[jade yarrow]

F*cking devs

[analog apex]

the biggest problem are the uniform presets... there are so many and with every reset it would be hell to re-doing it all... takes at least 15m. That's why I better made the settings file to be read-only

[worthy charm]

You can set the .json to read only.

Never did it tho so im not sure what exactly to do.

[jade yarrow]

Not that interested in messing with game files but I wil keep it in mind

[jade yarrow]

Nobody ever uses that lol

[analog apex]

yep, and it's restricting because for any permanent changes you intend to make, one needs to shut down the game, make the file not readOnly anymore, relaunch and make the changes and then make read only again

I am so amazed the devs do not seem to be addressing it at all.

at least it was never ever mentioned from them... despite the complaints about it have been quite frequent

[heady escarp]

Maybe Apache Garrison retired from the military life

[steady vine]

Will we have similiar gamemodes like warfare for vietnam?

[worthy charm]

Take a look at the steam Page. There will be warfare and offensive, plus 4 additional unknown gamemodes.

[gray garden]

you don't have to do all that, just copy the config after u set them all and save them somewhere w/ a shortcut to the file..

You do it once and then it's set up

[hybrid sage]

🫃

[plush gazelle]

🫄

[modern solstice]

yeah, seems like no one should have to do that, should be in game UI to save your changes, and updates should only add new uniforms so it doesnt reset

[night lark]

I just leave my config as editable and havent had any issues

Pain in the backside having to re do my key bindings for the new PC

[modern solstice]

well people have had issues and it should be a thing lol

i imagine keybinds should be handled the same way, have a stable config, save it in UI, and on update if there are new features, only add to it

[analog apex]

even if there is a new thing in an update, it doesn't reset the uniform presets

they get reset mostly just when the whole reset bug randomly happens

[modern solstice]

oh its a bug, fair enough then

You know what, thinking about it, a great feature for steam could be a Default keybind saved on the cloud, maybe even Video/audio settings (only for generic settings maybe ?)

i wonder what is the time spend messing with setting of every games 😄

[analog apex]

unnecessary, but yep would be interesting stat to see too - how much time spent in game, how much time in non-options menus and how much in options...

[modern solstice]

Arma games , most of it spend in config, I just installed Reforger, and i spent most of my time scrolling through the keybinds

i'm curious , do you remember where they said that, or why ?

[proven dagger]

I can't say exactly I believe it was in one of their Q&A. It wasn't something they were interested in doing.

[proven dagger]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hsF3cv_m6GA&pp=ygUSaGVsbCBsZXQgbG9vc2UgcSZh

46:55

So it wasn't explicity "no" but it wasnt on their to do list.

[modern solstice]

dayum timestamped and everything, 🎩

[proven dagger]

I posted a question for their latest Q&A asking if modding will be looked at for HLLV.

[worthy charm]

Also got those writen out in #1369174494631166042

[modern solstice]

I wouldnt get my hopes up, though its from march and prob regarding HLL, it doesnt look like its a prio for them, i dont see it a prio for HLLV, if it were you would know quickly, modding isnt an update you push at release, it require wrok from the beginning

[proven dagger]

the more you know

[proven dagger]

I'm not really expecting anything either its just important to be vocal about changes you want to see. It's been requested quite literally for years.

People are still interested in modding.

[worthy charm]

They have a Team for each game, so I dont think they got Prio for development on either one of them. I think its saver to assume it would be to much work. Not sure if they ever said something about modding to be honest.

What do I know tho...

[modern solstice]

it would be interesting to see a modding platform on UE5 done correctly (no fortnite isnt imho)

[proven dagger]

It just seems like a missed opportunity from my POV considering how slow updates generally roll out it would allow players to put out extra content themselves. If you look at games like Sq44 and Squad community content became so well recieved it became official content sanctioned by the developers.

[modern solstice]

Yeahhhh i have been modding squad on and off for 5 years, sadly mods are a pita to seed 🙁

[worthy charm]

S44 mentioned, Elise is now tracking your locations and everything you are gonna say from this point onwards.

[modern solstice]

but i agree, content should be left to modders, and framework should be focussed on to let modders pump out content, but they cant make money //directly// on modders content

[proven dagger]

elise is great I love watching them sow chaos.

[worthy charm]

Modding would be amazing honestly, but I can imagine it would have to be moderated in some way.

[modern solstice]

1984 , nope 🙂 (jk almost not jk)

[proven dagger]

I don't even like Squad44. I do but I'd rather play HLL just because it's casual. I do recognize the labor of love that is Sq44 though.

[modern solstice]

Also it's hosted on Steam workshop, so need to follow the rules there, i think that is enough

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/indominus-rex-camouflages-in-trees-gif-1732246208311624944

I'm here >:)

[proven dagger]

There are things I would take from Sq44 but I do like how HLL is it's own thing and is a much more casual experience.

[worthy charm]

What did I say xD

[proven dagger]

It probably has the most satisfying bolt actions of any WW2 game I've played.

I'd also love if HLL added a dedicated logistics squad like Sq44.

[finite berry]

I like that HLL is the stepping stone between games like Battlefield and Squad 44

[proven dagger]

Like unpopular opinion I don't think we need a fully rendered tank model for HLL. I think they need more depth but it's fine to be more approachable to the casual player.

[worthy charm]

Whilst S44 itsself is a stepping stone from Hll to games like Arma. 😅

The milsim/hardcore Elements get bigger the furher you go.

[proven dagger]

I think adding more weak spots to tanks, changing the economy and handling would make me sufficiently happy for a tank rework personally.

Also let me 20mm pen some armor please it's a glorified recon tank even tho I love it.

[worthy charm]

Imagine they finally get rid of nodes or make them more interessting.

:}

[proven dagger]

I have no opinions on nodes tbh you could remove them and I really wouldnt care

I get the resource management aspect for commander but at the same time I wonder if its even necessary.

[modern solstice]

i dont know how you'd make logi fun... i'd rather have a system where squads and players get points doing objectives (on cap zone) and then CMD can allocate resources based on theses points

none of that logi driving, like in squad

[proven dagger]

In Sq44 logistic is fun because you have all the engineers in one squad able to communicate and work together which really never happens in HLL. You might see a huge fortification every once and a while on Offensive.

You have to type in allchat or have your squadleader be the middle man which is very annoying.

[modern solstice]

hmmm maybe that would help, it would lower the work for SLs in Squad/HLL for FOB/Garrison

yeah anything that is a QoL for SL i'm all for

[proven dagger]

Anyways yes. Nodes and resource management is kind of worthless imo. Just add tickets to buff medic, put commander abilities on cooldown. It's still a case of who used their abilities better/had the better team. Make squad leaders able to spawn their own vehicles but have a limited pool like Sq44.

Enlighten me if nodes are a necessary part of the game.

[modern solstice]

what would determine which SL can spawn what vehic ?

cauz if there is no solid system, its like a Squad prematch: first come first served with the squad name determining who gets what

[proven dagger]

It's pretty much like that anyways no?

[modern solstice]

y...yes

[proven dagger]

My experience in HLL is its literally always first come first serve regardless lmao.

[modern solstice]

hum dont the CMDer have to spawn a vehic ?

i always hear SL ask for them in voice

[proven dagger]

Yes but very rarely does the commander put any thought into spawns. He doesn't normally go nah your 0/7 no heavy for you he just goes oh you guys need a panther mid np

[modern solstice]

Yeah that is why id love to see a Point system, where you get point based on what you do, and CMD can see them in Scoreboard and decide to give the resource to you or not

[sullen crypt]

wouldnt a good commander know if a tank crew is 0-7 off of awareness?

with the exception of someone joining late of course

[modern solstice]

also could add a loose "objective" system where the CMD gives orders, like in BF, and if you complete them you get points

[proven dagger]

Yes but how many people are actually playing commander that seriously?

[sullen crypt]

and wouldnt you want that awareness to be part of the game?

adding a point score takes that away

[proven dagger]

Most people who play commander pick it up because nobody else plays it.

[modern solstice]

if you make the gameloop rewarding, maybe more people would care

like logi, if you make it fun, more people would do it 🙂

[proven dagger]

Pretty much impossible imo. Commander is a stressful thankless role.

[worthy charm]

Spawning 7 tanks for one and the same tank crew in one game is hilarious.😅 😂

[modern solstice]

some people enjoy that, see nurses 🙂

[proven dagger]

I say this as somebody who has played commander until rank 10. It's not the worst experience but easily one of the worst.

[sullen crypt]

its kind of hard to miss having to repeat the same thing for the same people you know?

[worthy charm]

At some point they maybe should change into infantry on their own.😅

[proven dagger]

Counterpoint. Having no armor is worse than having bad armor.

[worthy charm]

Thats fair, but doesnt make it much better.

[proven dagger]

Lmao

[modern solstice]

what if CMDer could disband bad tank squad so new ones could take the roles

[proven dagger]

I'm the type of commander IDRC about trying to win I just want people to have fun. If somebody wants a Jumbo 75 or a Tiger or a Luchs I don't ask questions.

[sullen crypt]

what if you had a role that was upgradable by the commander. example = light tank crew, medium, heavy.

[proven dagger]

I'll play to win but I don't care either way.

[sullen crypt]

idk kinda silly when you throw the idea out there

[modern solstice]

yeah i can see it

[sullen crypt]

goes back to just having awareness as the commander

[modern solstice]

well, you cant be aware of everything, that is why QoL , like a point system helps

[proven dagger]

So what if you have a bad commander or just no commander at all do you not get tanks

[modern solstice]

you can see it in the score board, how many points, K /D , point in objective , 'mission completed' etc

[modern solstice]

what if we are in a simulation and have no free will ? HUH?

[sullen crypt]

thats how it was tho not every commander knows everything even today

[proven dagger]

Purple pill

[sullen crypt]

it seems like the argument is make commander easier to play now

[proven dagger]

Is that a bad thing? People don't like picking it up to begin with.

Commander and Tank crews are probably the least played classes in the game.

[modern solstice]

yeah, giving them tools... easier to play i dont know, but the more tools you have to make good choices, will for sure make it more fun to play

[proven dagger]

The amount of games I join where people argue for somebody to pick commander 10 mins into the match.

The amount of times a new player says they'll play commander and then get sht on when they make a simple mistake or don't put up a garrison immediately.

[modern solstice]

Natural selection doesnt have this problem , doesnt it ?

[modern solstice]

hard to fix toxic behaviors like that ...

[proven dagger]

Yeah. That's just part of why commander kind of sucks. You also have to flip a coin whether or not people build you nodes.

Most of the time they will if you ask but I've had games where nobody builds me nodes no matter how much I ask.

[sullen crypt]

its true commanders get pooped on most the time

[proven dagger]

Commander is either one of the most fun or worst on a game by game basis.

When you're miserable as commander I mean MISERABLE

Nobody going where you suggest or redeploying, no nodes, nobody except you builds garrisons, idiots moving your halftracks, armor squad throwing etc etc.

Backseating squad leader who didn't want to command is also a timeless classic.

[pine ember]

When will the new map be reveiled?

[worthy charm]

Never :}

[nova pivot]

You know it

[fringe mortar]

How does everyone feel about hell let loose Vietnam?

[trail wren]

Fortunate Son Intensifies

[night lark]

Commander is one of the easiest roles if you just take the administrative garri building bit.

[fringe mortar]

For real

[trail wren]

Im interested to see how adding Planes and Boats makes tactical adjustments different now

Honestly too the graphic engine will be a huge adjustment too wonder how rendering all that jungle will affect sight lines and performance rendering

[night lark]

Im glad ive upgraded my PC because my old one would die dealing with all the foliage

[magic cloak]

Will in virtnam be attacking helicopters?

[trail wren]

Yeah Im just interested to see how they deal with the foliage rendering. It's gonna make or break the game play

Im excited tho, its been a while since there has been a good Vietnam War game and if anyone can make it great, its these guys

[cosmic pilot]

My new one will die with the foliage 😭

[silk igloo]

did ben just ghost ping us or what

[marble edge]

Yo

[cosmic pilot]

Apparently

When Ben shows his face 👻 react him

[marsh tendon]

why hell let loose vietnam

[cosmic pilot]

Because nobody remembers Korea

[broken shoal]

Because we need boats and tunnels

and you know those historical evenly matched battles of burger hill and... that one and ... that one and the other one

[upbeat onyx]

se

[hushed sequoia]

HLLV: Anyone gonna build that forward garrison yet? It's been 15 minutes

[pine ember]

I do, but some pictures would be nice, or the official tac map

[vagrant shale]

good morning is HLL: vietnam out yet?

[worthy charm]

Nope, comes out in 2026.

[vagrant shale]

dang

[wind shore]

Idk

[worthy charm]

Its a shorter wait than for GTA6.

[vagrant shale]

i am way more excited for this

[jade yarrow]

Guys i got a visual bug where can i post it?

[gloomy crown]

How about as a surprise U18 goes live today along the dev stream to celebrate the announcement of HLL Vietnam and thank the community for their patience and support?

[wind shore]

Idk I thought today is only QNA

[gloomy crown]

As far as i know that's true, still would be nice if they surprise drop U18 today 😄

[wind shore]

I’m waiting

[sturdy quarry]

why would we want a suprise drop u18 after how broken the PTE was? let them fix it

[pearl pond]

Question: which ini file is it that saves all the in-game settings? I was going to copy it and then paste it when an update inevitably resets them.

[gloomy crown]

Seems i should have attached the /s at the end.

[cyan saddle]

GameUserSettings

[polar prism]

The IL2 Series remembers Korea. 😏

They're making a Korean War flight sim

[cosmic pilot]

I know

[trail wren]

Hell Let Loose: Panama

Hell Let Loose: Grenada 1983

[wind shore]

Hell let Loose 1812

Hell let Loose War of the rights

[trail wren]

I wonder if HLL would suit 17th and 18th century wars

HLL Napoleon would go hard

[echo karma]

2 months

[trail wren]

Whoops thats 19th century but still

[worthy charm]

HLL 1096 Crusaders

[echo karma]

Korean War tho? Now that would be interesting.

[trail wren]

It would

[echo karma]

US main issue is lack of main battle tank vs old as t34s

[wind shore]

HLL 2592: Galactic war

[cosmic pilot]

HLL Constantinople

[sick bramble]

HLL Crimea

[echo karma]

Or HLL Spanish Civil War

[wind shore]

HLL Uprising of Friederich Barbarossa: Italy invasion

[sick bramble]

HLL Afghanistan

[polar prism]

I'm going to pass on HLL Vietnam

But looking to SPGs coming to HLL! 👀

[thin lotus]

remember when BM doubled the height of grass assets but didnt change their LOD distance

"this looks like vietnam"

gr8 times

[silk igloo]

remember when grass took half a second to load when you spawned in, letting you see enemies in grass?

[cosmic pilot]

I remember

[gentle lintel]

too soon

[cosmic pilot]

Bushes let loose

[silk igloo]

it was balanced because the guy you shot would spawn back in and see you in turn 🤪

[pearl pond]

Anyone else get crashes on AMD hardware? Had two crashes last night to desktop. Nothing from the game just a pop up from AMD software

[echo karma]

Just wait, your 5fps will be hilarious

Not one game in ue5 is optimized yet. They all run like crap and go crazy on lumen. Which kills your fps. LoD will be the least issue

[past vortex]

what popup?
(it isnt known to run worse on amd)

[twin rune]

They should just have Vietnam as an expansion

[echo karma]

No. A new engine is needed but it's not all rainbows and napalm. Alot of peoples fears are warranted and t17 won't acknowledge them either

Ideally veitnam goes well and it drives ppl to try hll.

The real question is how they reach outside there target audience.

[hasty ore]

do, uh.... do you think the community manager knows there's quite a few misspells on the FAQ page...?

unless tutorialial is a cool new word all the kids are saying, and Vietnamwill is an alternate realite Vietnam

[echo karma]

Must be British slang

[worthy charm]

Poor ben had a rough week.😅

It has been said a few times.

[past vortex]

he just doesnt have the time to proofread the ai output

[thin lotus]

🙊

[hasty ore]

man needs an ice cream snickers bar

[lavish sparrow]

Can we get a vietnam-history channel?

[past vortex]

thats not for everyone :}

[cyan saddle]

Deselect and reselect the history role from id:customize

[lavish sparrow]

there we go, thing was pretty finnicky

[covert elbow]

Watching the livestream and omg they actually do read the chat haha

I’m hearing pretty much direct quotes from here

[silk igloo]

kieran doesnt look like kieran. he looks more like peter.

[covert elbow]

Imposter amoung us

[silk igloo]

ben doesnt look like ben either now that i think about it. he looks like... robin

[worn gulch]

Ben is ai
Cant convince me otherwise

[covert elbow]

This has been confirmed a while ago

This is all a figment of your imagination after all

Wake up

[worn gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-dying-died-freaking-out-small-eyes-gif-5632913

[wind shore]

😂🤣

[novel geyser]

woooow scoreboards how interesting

[gentle lintel]

scream if you love scoreboards

[cyan saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/raaa-scream-cat-angry-cat-gif-3592292592025331596

[novel geyser]

relieved now knowing HLL:V will infact have a scoreboard

[worn gulch]

Loves me a scoreboard yanno

[gentle lintel]

dude did you see the scoreboard leak

[worn gulch]

Ye man heard you can see if you shot a helicopter
Revolutionary

[flat stag]

HI

[past vortex]

but we dont know yet if it will be randomly sorted and centered as it should be

they might screw it up... maybe they make it so that it is centered on yourself and sorted by squad name

that would be aweful

[wind shore]

I hope we will get Vietnamese love songs for HLLV https://youtu.be/lRsaDQtYqAo?si=mn3OrJAv0UyAVqyn

As victory song, to recognise the reality, that we all can love, after the match of course

[gentle lintel]

i think that's a 100% YES

https://tenor.com/view/stillesque-gif-25544869

[novel geyser]

I think Im more dreading the suggestions channels for the new game than anything else

[covert elbow]

Dude there’s going to be a tutorial for Vietnam haha

I’m going insane. They did take all of our suggestions but they did it for the Vietnam hame

[novel geyser]

seems so lmao

they still havent properly said if these things will come to the first game

[thin lotus]

remember, they are incapable of saying "no"

[past vortex]

i mean it makes a lot of sense to make a new game nstead of fixing the heap of crap
but its sad that it isnt ww2

[covert elbow]

They said they can move them back but who knows

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/kynan-vietcong-flashback-gif-26742045

[novel geyser]

stream is pretty quiet especially kieran

[covert elbow]

I asked if we’ll get like a 2.0 update to get these features in WW2 but I think they’ve moved past the topic

Genuinely feels like a kick in the gut to hear all of these features being introduced into a new game but not the one we play

Wish they’d just rebuild WW2 and relaunch it already

[past vortex]

best possible outcome would be if they make a new ww2 game based on V

they will certainly want money

[wind shore]

Would be cool ❤️

[covert elbow]

Pacific when

[wind shore]

I’m waiting for new map, and could wait more 6+ months also

[novel geyser]

🍔

[cyan idol]

Team 17, we love you. You are the best thing that could happen to the community. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzYzYNVWZ_A&t=88s

[covert elbow]

Definitely a livestream

[proven dagger]

i feel like i learned virtually nothing that we didn't know

[worthy charm]

You better are, we need someone else than just kedo in there.

[novel geyser]

5 years of tiresome nam movie references and the worst suggestions you will ever hear

[normal fjord]

crossplay 🤢

[worthy charm]

Huh? Its basicly the same.😅

[normal fjord]

nah don't want to play with console aim assisters thanks

[worthy charm]

Huuuuuh? Its the same as we have now... whats the matter? 😆

[normal fjord]

there is no crossplay between PC and console right now

[worthy charm]

Pc with Pc, consoles with consoles

[covert elbow]

So nothings changed

All the suggestions now have been movie references, post war items, and bad suggestions

[dense jewel]

WW2 Photos You've Never Seen! Carentan 1944 THEN & NOW
https://youtu.be/ufhOuJlUDKk

[vernal charm]

I saw the news...Hell Let Loose: Vietnam. I've been waiting for this❤️. Let's hope I can get my PC up to date for it haha. My old ryzen 7 and 2070 super are barely keeping up with min specs now a days...

[covert elbow]

Better to put this in #ww2-history

[novel geyser]

they just NEED to be extra transparent about the ww2 game tho I just dont really trust they will make it on par with what they're doing with the vietnam game

[covert elbow]

It already isnt

[novel geyser]

ik

[covert elbow]

Better audio, better gameplay mechanics, new vehicles, 6 new maps, etc all in 16 months

[novel geyser]

but from what it seems the vietnam game will have everything the original needs

[covert elbow]

Meanwhile we haven't seen a new weapon, barely any meaningful updates, and 3 maps in the same time

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-lappland-arknights-lappland-immortal-gif-6545413015755453654

[covert elbow]

Its just dissapointing

[worthy charm]

My god...
Someone with a purple name 👀

[novel geyser]

quite

[worthy charm]

Truely an ancient being

[novel geyser]

I just want them to absolutely definitely bring these features to the ww2 one otherwise they might aswel abandon it and go full into vietnam development

[covert elbow]

Agreed

Either give us a 2.0 update, hell even a relaunch, or don't bother

[analog apex]

you call him general, sir! 😄

[worthy charm]

Bro, had to be rich during the kickstarter.

[analog apex]

I am sure he is rich even now...

[covert elbow]

How much was the general tier?

[analog apex]

1347 AU $

[covert elbow]

Damn

[analog apex]

so was 1000 US $

[worthy charm]

Damn frfrfr

Like woooow

[analog apex]

yeah, we here are just beggars in comparison 😄

[worthy charm]

I got the game for 20€, like im a really cheap dude.

Did those get special Skins or something?

[analog apex]

On top of the helmets:

• custom map suggestion to be made
• select a name and markings for a tank variant (within reason)

• name in the credits

etc.

details still can be found here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/blackmatter/hell-let-loose

[novel geyser]

wow

If I spent that much on the kickstarter I'd be rather unhappy right now

[analog apex]

my thoughs exactly

thank God I didn't back for more

[covert elbow]

I got it for free

[covert elbow]

If I spent any money I'd feel bad rn

[novel geyser]

I cant remember how much I bought it for but I got it late early access and I still feel cheated

[analog apex]

can't say though that I didn't have my share of fun - I did... I just wish it lasted for longer than just up to during the EA roughly

I mean the old days when I had just fun and the fun only - without any kind of frustration yet (caused by the game's bugs/problems/performance that came later on one by one)

[covert elbow]

Yep

[humble perch]

You still have issues with the game?

[analog apex]

not just "me"

the bugs/performance ... those are common to everybody I believe

although when it comes to the stuttering, there is some part of the playerbase that seem to be stutterFree

but the rest stays to everybody

[novel geyser]

the whole damn game is an issue lol

[humble perch]

Yeah, it's pretty random. 2 people same bug different solutions.

[analog apex]

or for some, no solution

[past vortex]

yea

[analog apex]

one can have a "NASA" computer but if HLL decides it will stutter on it, it will stutter on it

[novel geyser]

cant wait for the blur fest of UE5

maybe less stutters but consistently bad frames and muddy visuals

[analog apex]

more like the same stutters but just higher average FPS

[hasty ore]

but are guns confirmed?!

[wind shore]

You guys also excited about hll Vietnam ofc you are let's all celebrate

[humble perch]

Given that it will be entirely new, I would expect the problems like EA HLL

[tough briar]

hll vietnam looks so sick

[wind shore]

I love Vietnamese soup 🍲

[analog apex]

what will be new?

what do you mean?

This was not related to HLLV at all if that's what you thought.

[humble perch]

Oh

[gentle lintel]

better, sticks

[marble axle]

as vietnamese myself ....i don't think so . vietnam is not a good setting for semi-milsim shooter because how unbalance firepower/tech it was . fighting for underdog fun in single players game or movie because you have plot armor and game setting favor you win . PVP shooter doesn't have that . most players gonna quit or join the stronger side if they are on the receiving end of superior tech/fight power without plot armor hand-holding them to victory . rising storm 2 is the brightest exam of it , 99% of people either quit or stick with US side

[hasty ore]

it worked out pretty good in BF: Vietnam. Sure it was pretty balanced and not a milsim, but just pointing out you can balance it out to make it fun

[marble axle]

it all fun and game until you found out your side have no tank , no AA , no helicopter , no rifle grenade to counter US m79 grenade launcher spam . and enemy side aren't under typical starwars plot armor stormtrooper effect miss all the shot .

[marble axle]

well because nva in bf vietnam have armed boat , tank , AA , even heli and jet . equal as US

[hasty ore]

Yeah i know, i'm just pointing out that if they take SOME creative liberties they can make it more even. Or even do something like, give a ton more AT abilities to the NVA, or more UAV(intelligence, not a real uav) style abilities to compensate

[wind shore]

So stick as a weapon, how could it work? Like bamboo melee attack or like traps?

[hasty ore]

throw stick, stick hurt bad guy

[novel geyser]

literally said in the AMA that the NVA have anti air and tanks lol

its not quite as hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby as you might think

[pine ember]

It’s really good

[wind shore]

Would you prefer drink soup or it with spoon? 🥄

[hasty ore]

ah there ya go, excellent

[novel geyser]

Its not even taking liberties the NVA had access to these things irl lol

[analog apex]

Btw., about HLLV - will it have modding tools? I would be mad if it did and HLL WWII wouldn't.

[novel geyser]

though what they said in the stream of not doing the viet cong ""right now"" is because they want to stick to more traditional militaries is weird

[hasty ore]

admittedly my knowledge of Vietnam is WAY more rudimentary over my knowledge of WW2, so i appreciate you giving that a shout

[novel geyser]

yea basically
NVA north vietnamese army, best equipped of north vietnam
Viet Cong northern malitia fighters less equipped even more guerilla tactics

[elfin crescent]

Yay a new game for team17 to mess up because of yours truly the worst video game studio in existence

[wind shore]

Who were south Vietnamese then

[past vortex]

people from southern vietnam

[wind shore]

Why they fought with each other

[past vortex]

lol

many didnt want to live under communism, for various reasons

[novel geyser]

ARVN

South Vietnam was being invaded by north vietnam

US, Australia an Korea were allied to south Vietnam to aid in defense and peacekeeping

[past vortex]

*to keep the christion ruling minority in power :}

[novel geyser]

Yeah lol

[past vortex]

but many buddists also didnt want to be commies

[wind shore]

So and at all they they didn’t immigrated then after the war?

[novel geyser]

there were a number of south vietnamese who immigrated after the war

[marble axle]

if you dig a bit deeper you will found out the so called "south vietnam independent nation" born by the hand of US in the first place . actually no US just upgrade the old french born State of Vietnam to US born republic of south vietnam and use it as pre-text to justified their intervention

[novel geyser]

yep Im aware

[marble axle]

so the so called NV invade SV > US and allied come to help = total BS . it like US today fund some sort of free republic of canada send in money aid , weapon help pro-us canadian take over half of the country . then if the current canadian gov send in military to get rid of that pro-us independent nation > that gonna justified US military intervention in the name of helping the nation they pop-up

same extractly tactic current russia use in eastern ukraine lead to current russo-ukrainian war

[hasty ore]

well this isn't gonna end well

[worthy charm]

Probably not, but i didnt hear them talk about it

[magic dune]

Will there be a video of the q&a for people that missed it

[hasty ore]

already is one on twitch. just look up the latest video

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2546848544

[silk igloo]

Sir, yes sir!

honestly its so nice to see ancient people come here, like they were waken from their slumber on a call to arms

just crawled under a rock and sleeping

[trim ore]

Being guerillas in vietnam is gonna be fun asl in hll

[marble axle]

fighting for underdog fun in single players game or movie because you have plot armor and rigged game setting favor you win . PVP shooter doesn't have that . most players gonna quit or join the stronger side the moment they found out being on the receiving end of enemy superior tech/fight power is not so fun without plot armor hand-holding them to victory

[hasty ore]

clearly you've never been a really annoying M1-Garand user hiding in a bush just to harass backlines (said in good fun <3)

[marble axle]

i don't think you gonna feel any better because if HLLV go realistic old soviet RPG-2 are way less accurate , slower warhead speed (harder to hit helicopter) than RPG-7 and unlike BF there are no ammo box every 10m around to refill your very limited 4 round RPG loadout .

[wind shore]

Hello!

[velvet current]

Hey im new to the discord but long time player. I have some recommendations for HLL Vietnam. Where can I drop it?

[coarse loom]

#1098158460463480842

[echo karma]

Yeah but boats. And jank as choppas

Chopper gon feel like a tiger on ice skates

[hushed sequoia]

If people fly the helicopters at all like the people in RS2V then y'all are in for a lot of crashing and respawning

[swift burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/jrotc-kid-in-the-back-corner-of-theclass-whn-he-sees-your-not-standing-up-for-the-pledge-gif-10462728

[velvet current]

#1408554249524220024 message

Thank you!

[plain schooner]

why is my game taking forever to load into a server on here

[burnt yoke]

huge

[plain schooner]

is there a way to fix that

[burnt yoke]

Ben pinged and didn't say a word 😭

[errant crown]

Can anyone who has played the PTE confirm how the Heavy tank limit will work. What is the number of heavies that each team can have active at one time?

[oak current]

there was no heavy tank limit in the PTE.
PTE was for Stalingrad and didnt have all the tank rework in it yet.

[errant crown]

Thank you

I wish the devs would provide more clarity around how that mechanic will work. I have seen a lot of people saying 2 per team or 1 per team and it is very confusing. Hopefully we get some clarity soon.

[cerulean sigil]

Did they mention anything about vehicles and tanks in the Q&A

[vagrant shale]

tanks were not invented in yet in vietnam

[cerulean sigil]

Oh ye I forgot

It was milk truck with AA gun on back only

[covert elbow]

The dev brief said it will be 2 heavy’s at a time per team iirc

[errant crown]

“The number of Heavy Tanks available in a match will be capped at two active units at any given time.”

These are the exact words from the dev brief. This leaves a lot of room for interpretation. It could mean 2 per team or 1 for each team.

[solemn gale]

I’m guessing the pacific isn’t coming to HLL with HLL Vietnam coming

??

[wind shore]

Nobody knows, ask it in new thread

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1408500313861787648

Don’t lose any hope

[fluid pawn]

I had an old draft that was in the community news tab, and as I went to delete it hit enter 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️😅

[fluid pawn]

This is for community Comms related stuff such as what you'd like to see in livestreams, YouTube, etc. (the stuff I do as CM 😊)

For Dev questions on Vietnam please go to #1407789105768698007

[fluid pawn]

I believe it's 2 per team (however I'm not at my PC to confirm this so don't shoot the messenger if I'm wrong 😅)

[covert elbow]

Hey Ben?

[fluid pawn]

Sup! I should be in bed however am so wired from this week 😂

Haven't been able to switch off

[covert elbow]

I can tell because that was a question lmao

You need some sleep haha

[fluid pawn]

My head hurts....

🫠🫠😂

Hope that everyone's enjoyed the content this week though! Got so much more to come both for Vietnam and the upcoming U18 and U19 for HLL. It's going to be a fun couple of months can't lie!

[covert elbow]

U19?

That’s a thing?

When was that announced lmao

[fluid pawn]

Yessir

That's the update that the new eastern front map will come in

[covert elbow]

Ah okay

Wait I thought that was U18

I need to reread the dev briefs

[fluid pawn]

18 is armour rework and Stalingrad rework

[covert elbow]

What update is mortars, swimming, dragging, etc coming to WW2?

[fluid pawn]

I put so much energy into those only for them not to be read 😭😭😂

[covert elbow]

I read it, but I read them after I wake up so I don’t recall it a lot haha

[clear magnet]

Vietnam War and Tree Memes are going to be insane when it comes out 🤣

[fluid pawn]

#1408499027024150650 if you have any Community suggestions btw please chuck them in here

[covert elbow]

Really it’s your fault for posting it in British time

[fluid pawn]

Apologies for being a retched tea drinker ☕ 🇬🇧

[covert elbow]

I’ll be sure to direct anyone who wants to post suggestions there

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/president-i-disapprove-this-message-disapprove-disapproval-dont-approve-gif-5143901488391810418

[fluid pawn]

That would be wonderful. The more ideas the community shares the more I can get the content you guys want ❤️

[covert elbow]

Btw thanks for reading my suggestion during the Q&A. Answered some much needed questions there

[fluid pawn]

I cannot wait can't lie 🔥

[fluid pawn]

No worries at all!

[wind shore]

Copy! Should I transfer my thread about the language to the other thread?

[fluid pawn]

Yes please 🫡

Alright. I need bed. Going to go sleep for 3 days 🫡🫡🫡

Catch y'all next week. Peace out ✌🏻

[covert elbow]

See ya!

[wind shore]

Transferee thanks!

[wind shore]

When would be any news in the nearest future?

I scare those tunnels in HLLV. If Vietnamese soldiers would kidnap me into those holes.

[errant crown]

I appreciate you looking into it. Please get us a clear answer from the devs. A heavy tank limit of 2 per team would play a lot differently than 1 per team.

[oak current]

go to bed ben, its midnight 😄

shoo 🧹

[covert elbow]

No, it’s 2 pm

[finite berry]

My clock says otherwise

And so does the moon

:)

[hushed sequoia]

HLLV: Fall back guys, we cant recatpure on this gamemode for the millionth time

[glossy ridge]

Is vietnam going to be a new game or just a patch ? do i need to purchase something ?

[covert elbow]

It’s an entirely new game

[glossy ridge]

Thank you

[covert elbow]

Welcome

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/mellstroy-bravo-twitch-gif-903709332552318194

[plain schooner]

anyone know why i cant load into a server

[past vortex]

i just learned that is the worst YTer in russia :D

why am i not suprised :}

[wind shore]

He is actually Belarusian streamer

What do you think about his content?

[past vortex]

well from what i heard he belongs to jail

why do YOU like him?

[glossy ridge]

is it start of 2026 ?

[hot turret]

january 2nd is confirmed

[past vortex]

1st even :D

[wind shore]

I didn’t say that I like him

[glossy ridge]

amazing graphics look very good

[past vortex]

why do you post that crap then

[wind shore]

https://youtu.be/bYRT9louwmE?si=rsEg8QdokZKrXUQp

I’m already red, it wouldn’t be polite since then!

The translation

[covert elbow]

No, it’s not confirmed for janurary 2nd

They just said it’s released 2026

[past vortex]

what does that mean