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A lot of 1945 equipment, new factions
A rework would be needed for maps set pre 1943, but Not for 1945
We have 1945 Equipment and the factions
There is almost no difference in it compared to 1944
I agree about it, DLC is not just important rn, 78 infantry division or not, I care more about map, than DLC. I have all DLCs on all platforms, that’s enough rn
It’s not important and take less potential and sources than make whole map
Pps, stg-44… oh wait that’s already in the freaking game 😒
There is lots of differences though, but the differences are blurry because the equipment we already have is reminiscent of 1945 🤣
Do you want PPD with 650 bullets drum mag?
It was used for testing unlimited shooting, PPD-40
Why do you demand more of them then?
Uh no
For the time Frame the Eastern Front is set in these should be removed
All the equipments messed up
We were supposed to get a subfaction for that in 2021…
T17 moment 
Or… blackmatter, I’m tired
No, rn is enough
It was supposed to be done before the maps were even launched
Also more content like SPA vehicles is more important
Exactly
Don’t wanna add rare weapons but they’ll add non existent ones 🥳
Which ones?
We getting existed ones, it’s not enlisted
No I’m talking about like the stg-44 or Soviet tanks on Stalingrad
Just make a subfaction and we are fine
In regards to certain weapons and tanks, historical accuracy is super important but game fun needs to come first.
Yes but we have a lot of ideas which would be accurate and fun
There are a lot of tanks, vehicles , maps which could be fan and accurate
Naaaaah
It has its place
Not in Stalingrad
Not on every map
Right
But it has its place
I’d take a avs-36 any day
Definetely, there were 450000 produced units
1941 maps are also could be, since 1941 to 44’
Fun fact, MKb42(h) would be more accurate than any version of the FG42
Fck I’m so waiting Wednesday and fcking exiting about everything
Eastern Front could exactly Cover the three years between Operation Barbarossa and Bagration
By that it’s more unique, alone due to its earlier Setting
Winter war and continuation would be pretty fire I will stand by that always🔥
I’d prefer Narva, Krasny Bor wasn’t that large
Or Demyansk
Federov Avtomat, Avs-36, Svt-38, all the early beautiful pieces of crap
T26 and BT Tanks
So I think it’s rumours about what was on Reddit. Captain Rutain put nose everywhere. So what I’ve seen it’s early thing on Reddit and not confirmed or approved.
What was on Reddit?
It should be news in nearest months about what exactly
So and mess me up with it, so I started doing more research rn, I’ll stop in my suggestion.
Until any news and go post more photos, now it’s not necessary
Cool
I won’t to believe in rumours
Let’s wait until any telegrams
wait so m1 garand is a 3 shot kill at close range?
No advertisements of social media channels. Thanks.
Nah, bang bang dead 😵
Or bang
Depending on how the game feels
i shot a guy twice at point blank and he survived
just shot a guy 4 times at mid range and he survived
Exactly, games in a bad mood today
just shot a guy 4 times in the body and once in the head and he survived....
again this guy survived another 3 shots
The ranges on what weapon, need how many shoots to kill.
It depends on the body part
I once had to shoot like 3 times a guy with the mosin rifle
body shots
But once i also instakilled a guy with a single luger shot, so, at this point you have to pray to the code of the game
If you get blessed by the code you'll get a 150 m shotgun headshot, if you don't prepare to shoot a guy 8 times before he dies
I it just me or does the G43 feel more accurate and has less recoil?
You kill everyone one shot in the head. That doesnt include the hit reg. issues tho.
Bodyshot, around 60-100 meters
I don't remember the exact distance tho
I think it has less recoil, But I'm pretty sure you're the one being accurate
Yea because I play better with it, it just feels easier and more intuitive
If 30-06 can drop a deer at 300 yards. Why not a man?
Cuz game balance is why. Personally I liked the older balance. You run out in the open, your dead
What are yards?
Unit of measurement in the USA and UK
300 yards is a lot of grass
How many inches are that?
10,800
Yes but how many mm
Yes but how many bald eagles per glazed donut?
Infinite
Im tired
Multiply by 25.4
Hey guys 👋
I’m Ross. I love playing tanks, but my friends all play infantry 🥲. Looking for a 3-man tank crew to play with. Would be awesome to team up)
Prefer Ukrainian/Russian speakers, but my English is C1, so English works too
about 1.36363 furlongs
So? it won't be fun, everyone's going to have bolt action rifles.
Besides, what I meant about Italy was Italian front 1944
Would be a lot more fun
Only bolt action is a wet dream
The urban fighting would be so fun
We had this discussion before… it is neither Only bolts nor won’t be fun
How would the italian front not be fun lol
We would have that with Finland too
Exactly
Finnish would be better
How lol
I would like Finland too, but Italy 1944 would be more fun tbh.
Yeah
- Unique
- New faction
- Completely different Maps to anything we have
- It was in the works
- It is demanded by a lot of people
- from a historical perspective they deserve way more attention
I wished 💦
1941 maps
- Unique doesn't always mean good
- Fair
- Italy would also offer drastically different maps
- So was Poland, want Poland too? Things can cencelled, plans change, deal with it.
- Loud minority doesn't mean a lot of people
- So does countless of other fronts that was never done
Finland, 1939-40
Funny you say that, there was a lot more automatic weapons used on that front than the others 😂
- Yes, but Not in that case
- you still have the Same factions and while it looks different it would play out almost Same
- Poland would be good too. Plans change, but if they could keep their promises that would be better
- I dont think it’s a minority
- Yep, true, but Finland was never in any WW2 Game. There is only one mod for it in Rising Storm
That just proves some people dont know what they are Talking about 😉
The Finnish Forest were the Perfect Environment for SMGs and Battle rifles
On one hand, I want Poland :D On the other hand, the butchering of historical accuracy that would come with the expectable automatic spam would probably give me immeasurable pain 
Well I mean, the majority of soldiers did have bolt action rifles, but that comes with every front. I still think that if we actually had the numbers, the automatic weapons usage would be higher than the other fronts per soldier
I would rather have Poland
Most still had bolt action, ESPECIALLY the soviets
These fronts will just seperate the wheat from the chaff
Finns don't even have tanks
Mfs on their way to find out that in 1939, both Germans and Polish mainly worked with bolt-action rifles and sidearms 
Knowing the devs, they would see it as a balancing issue
Definetely. WW2 still was a war of bolt actions
So what?
Dude, what the hell? The Soviets were able to equip entire units with submachine guns and semi-autos
I don't mind bolt actions tbh, just most people don't want to be stuck with it
Yes but, the svt-38, avs-36, Federov avtomat, and quite a few other rarer self loading rifles did see service on that front
Yes, Soviets also still used a lot of bolt-action rifles, but compared to other nations, they had a big chunk of SMGs and semi-autos
Polish didn’t even had a SMG…
it was more of a testing ground
Don't like bolt-action rifle? Well, git gud 😄
Not in 1939, but there were still SMGs and especially battle rifles in use
No they didn't, PPD was used in very small numbers
Especially true during the winter war
I'm referring to the PPSh-41.
It was after the the winter war where they realised the importance of smgs
im talking about the winter war
Soviets were using bolt actions
Dont forget the AVS36 or even the Avtomat
As did most soldiers in WW2
So people that can’t handle that…
Soviets were using mostly bolt action during the winter war
Yesn't. They had the Pistolet Maszynowy wz. 39 "Mors", but in such few numbers that it's pretty much neglectable.
Nice. I'm not.
I mean even the Finnish had a fair share of automatic weapons employed as automatic rifleman roles
Naaah, Im sure they all used STGs!
Still, they had plenty of automatic weapons
ok???? Topic is about the winter war though so my statement still stands
Have taken over this game a long time ago, and this game fully embraced them. It's joever. 
barely, it was after the winter war where they started massing up the smgs among soldiers
If we also Talk about the continuation war Not really
Yes, but they had a lot more than that
That's different, but we're talking about the winter war
AVS and Avtomat aren’t SMGs
Sadly
We are talking about “automatic weapons”
A continuation war would be better than the winter war
Exactly
At least the Finns will have Stugs
There 1941 will be the best
Just make an inf Only Maps
And the FA was deployed in the smg role
winter war - devs will see it as a balancing issue
Finnish had 59 StuGs
They were still planning it though…
But it’s not really, equipment wise it’s pretty fair 🤣
The Finnish had amazing anti tank capabilities
Freaking full auto anti tank cannons on sleds
Poland 1939 >>>
And the Soviets hadn’t had good tanks yet (these only arrived in 44)
Finland
that doesn't matter for the devs, they don't care what tanks were used
Just make it inf Only
Then make it skirmish
Or light Tanks Only
A mode no one plays...
Poland would be fun, both have tanks at least...
Don't say that, glow had one and it's always going lol
But almost no automatics 😉
(And also few outdated Tanks)
And the germans had almost no automatics so whats your point?
7TP was far better than the Panzer 2
Couldnt they just make a warfare map with a bit less vehicles? Im sure a map without a heavy/medium would be interesting to play. Especially when the finns dont have a rocketlauncher.
Dont forget the MG or MP38
MP38 was very rare
I though you hate bolts…
Debatable
Poles have their 7.92mm BAR guns.. imagine that 👀
When there's no servers up lol there's only 12 servers bro. There's 5 official up rn
And the Germans their MG
It's not a debate, the 7TP was much much better
Which is better than any other machine gun of the war
ok and the Germans have the mg42 for the 1944 maps which is by far the best mg
Remove the illogical 250 rounds :)
It definetely is debatable, superior hard skills dont make a tank better than it’s opponents
The MG34 was even better
Gimmie the 7.92mm mauser BAR gun
Ghost rounds too and barrel change mechanics. Even bf5 had those
Gimme 9mm KP31
On paper, the 7TP was better easily
On paper of you Look at the hard skills
But there are reasons why there is no 7TP left
There's 22 servers. Do the math. Game is dead bro
The German doctrine and „soft skills“ were far better, and even the Panzer II was able to counter a 7TP
Bro the Panzer 2 was supposed to remain a trainer tank during Poland in 1939 but it was their most numerous tank which is why they used it
We're not talking about doctrine, but how the vehicles will play out in a game - their paper stats
7TP was much better
Fun fact, it was designed to fight other Tanks which it was effective in in the earlier years
I remember someone having a panzer 2 vs 7TP debate here..
Ok, but don’t forget the Germans also having heavies Tanks
LOL
But StuG tho
Yep, because my point stands
Do you know German? I can send you sources if you want
We're talking about Poland mate...
Wasn’t used in 1939
There were Panzer IIIs and IVs
Poland's main tank was the 7TP, Germany was the Panzer 2
Did you know the Germans didn't even care about the firefly lol they thought it was a worse Sherman
Are you able to read?
I don't think you can
I meant jeavier Tanks
Sorry that my Keyboard is still locked in German
It’s Auto correction…
So I assume you said they had heavy tanks
The Spanish War is why we even seen the need for tanks. Cuz that russian early t34 slapped
By 1939 Panzer IV was a Heavy, so even though my Keyboard did a mistake I am Right
I intended to say heavier
No it was a medium
Not in 1939…
No
Panzer III was the Medium, Panzer IV the Heavy
It was classified as a medium support tank
They made alot of p3 too
In Poland only 98 were present
Only few were used in Poland, mainly in france
But still, that’s half of the entire Polish 7TP Fleet
Didn't need em. They killed all the leadership and steam rolled em within a month.
They killed the leadership after the war (if it was still in Poland)
mate, wasn't the panzer 3 heavier?
Germany was there long before just assinating anybody they could
no, they were about the same weight
The SA were ruthless bro
they were both mediums, where'd you get the panzer 4 was classified as a heavy?
It was almost the Same, but that doesn’t matter. The classification is what counts
Cuz at the time p4 was new and not mass produced.
I know, my Great grandfather Beat These idiots up
Because German classification…
Nobody talks about how many 7,6m anti tank guns were made either
why did they classify the panther as a medium tank then?
Weight and gun
Then why would they classify the panzer 4 as a heavy?
Cuz Germany had no heavy at the time. Only 1500 tigers were made
Because in their doctrine it was designed to fulfil the role of the Medium Standard Tank, a role previosly occupied by the Panzer IV F2/G, and the Panzer III until Version N
They didn't have any push back till Russia
The roles evolved over the war
Panzer 4 wasn't classified as a heavy
The Panzer IV earlier in the war was intended to be a Heavy infantry Support Tank, but later it became a Medium Standard Tank
I don't think they would be dumb enough to call an infantry support vehicle as a heavy tank lmfao
Early probably was. It was heavy. Had the 75 pak gun in it.
Depends on what sources you Look
The stug was an ifv but you know
In the earlier versions it had no PAK, just a normal gun
No it doesnt lol
It wasn't a PaK
A bunch of British Intelligence was just plain wrong too
Look at their official manuals
So anyways, it’s Late and I have to work tomorrow, so you can spread your tank Knowledge to other people now
Like did you know the month after dday Germany couldn't even identify the difference between certain m4 Sherman's lol
you show me one of their manuals of either the Panzer 4 B or C and show me where they call it a heavy tank. Because they don't, it's classified as a medium support tank
They only knew the firefly cuz the radio in the turret
Allies also couldn’t Even Tell the difference between a Panzer IV and a Tiger which is much harder than differentiating between Shermans
Wasn't the panther made to destroy t34 too. Specifically for that reason. Cuz p4 wasn't cutting it
You should go to sleep too, it’s late
Yeah seems like you typically deny facts lmao
Funny enough they believe the 76 pak couldn't pen a tiger at 1000m
Nope, plans to replace the Panzer IV were there since 1938s and the Panzer IV F2 was far superior to the T34
Just reading over that little convo you had with Bootea about the Panzer 2
Nope, I don’t
Get a Life man
I do have one, thanks. But please on your end, please don't be afraid to admit when you're wrong
We know the t34 wrecked they as and the tiger was likely to heavy for the mud and weather conditions. Hence the panther. Panther was also extremely effective vs any allied tank too
Battle of colonge case n point
I am able to do that if I’m wrong
shush little german boy
🍿
Youre just jealous
of what?
Btw <@&365680483276816385>
If you bring Popcorn you gotta share with me
Huh?
Why are you gae?
jealous of what?
Enjoying the German citizenship
Deez
sure
And me
Youre to sweet already
sure
lol German? oh buddy the way Germany is heading into I wouldn't be calling them germany soon lmao. But I'm gonna stop here and not get political
That's gae
Yesssss
Even in a gay way ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Atleast Im Not Part French
I remember a certain conversation
Wasn't for mercia yall be speaking German anyways
I’m Not either
Now I feel offended.
ohhh it's so hard
How many percent are you French? 3 or 4?
Modern day Germany is far better off than Britain rn anyways
I don't want to break the rules so I can't
I mean, it's not like France is faring any better lol
Not saying you're wrong, but France isn't far behind 😅
Sorry (yk Im joking)
You weren't?
whoops
France is even worse
Then I mixed that up
France always been babys lol look at Vietnam
SORRY I didn't mean to say that
@pine ember
please no
What I meant to say I don't care about france because im not french
Now we begin the Games
Where are you from then
luxembourg
Didn’t you once say youre Part French? I can pull that Message out
right
Swore his last name is French no
don't say your french jokes
Funny cuz my family name is French too
I also like how this chat is constant bit ching between Panzergrenadier and Briski, gae secks between me and Cheesecake and random randomness by Kedo no one asked for
i will be offended and will ping the mods
How many gears does a French Tank have?
Truly a certified HLL server moment
5, 1 forward, 4 backwards
this guy who is overglorifying over a nazi criminal as his pfp who got clapped in the air is just angry about facts
I'm related to Curtis Emerson Air force General lol
Description of a MAS36 on EBay:
Never used, once dropped
How was Marseille a criminal
He most notable dropped the second bomb
shhh just trying to piss the german boy here
Do you Even know who that was and what he did?
Imagine what you would miss by not being here and what you are missing by playing this game.
You won’t manage that
go back to war thunder
No thanks
I know it was pilot, but who cares actually
There's 22 servers on xbox and everyone full
Go back to BFV
Only weird people play that.
I figured. Y'know, that's kind of the thing that unites you and Panzergrenadier - constant arguments and 0/10 ragebait
Many
I don't play fps games so no thanks
Why Are you here then?
my pfp should be self explanatory
You don't even play HLL? Hooray! Finally, I'm not alone anymore!
because I occasionally play HLL every now and then
Probably Shot down by me
wtf is going on
ouw :(
I read bruski but I no see bruski
I just came and see this, everybody is arguing about it
I just like bombs
yeah no, who didn't fly in north africa
Ahhh North Africa
It’s really hot there
I know what you play 😉
F u ck, gotta sneeze but nothing is happening >:(
The SIMS
not even looking into lights is helping :(
what i play
IL2 obviously
FlixBus Simulator
Hello Kitty Online 🔥
Bingooo 😁
Ok, youre a friendly then
You play IL2?
No, but it seems like a nice game and once I get a better PC I will try it
Yeah it's great, best WW2 air sim out there (and WW1)
Rn my PC is Full of work
Has a crap ton of WW1 planes too if you're interested in that
That Sounds really good
Make sure you get a HOTAS and a headtracker/VR
From hate to friends ❤️
Yeah he should get it, I can't wait to shoot his German arse over Normandy while in a spitfire
@polar prism Do you have Odessa?
Yeah, loving the Yak-3
Yeah I'm gonna get it eventually, excited for the stuka D-5
Yup, it's going to have jettisonable gear.. and with 20mms, I can already imagine what people are going to do with it lmao
ofc you're german
Buy the game and I change the timer. :}
You called me french, won't forget that
When👀
or wait, was it that annoying Squad 44 guy then?
As a nice person, I would never dare to call someone french.
Thats something pretty offensive
yayaya you know whom im speaking about 👀
That's crazy that the British n French didn't end the war in 1939 tho. Germany wasn't even defending the west side
They had 4 million men at that time.
Even Germany was like whattt, why didn't they attack us?
whenever i play hoi4 as belgium or netherlands not a single french or british unit ever joins my defense
i guess the siegfried line is more important than the entire benelux region
i looked it up
seems that it kind of boils down to, like you said, caution
with the amount of deaths in the first world war, they didn’t want a repeat
most of the vets of the first one were getting well into their 40s-50s
It takes a while to actually orchestrate an invasion and stockpile the required logistics in forward staging areas. The British Expeditionary Force was about 10 devisions while france hadnt yet fully mobilised even by the time Germany did invade in 1940
Also as mentioned, niether the UK nor France actually had the stomach to fight a full scale war and there was a lot of discussion behind the scenes, especially in the UK, as to whether to even join the war in the first place and either be non interventionist or friendly towards Germany because of the threat from the USSR.
Need to bare in mind the whole Nazi thing didnt have the same connotations in 1940 as it did in 1945 and post war. There were big fascist movements in all allied nations until the early to mid 40. There is a reason a lot of french were contented with Nazi occupation…
Scream !!!
any1 playing? im on PC NA. the LFG channel seems dead atm. dm me
Wednesday, would be the new announce
So can’t wait for it
Needs to be faster - Wednesday come
What is on wednesday?
da kommt der frosch
Es ist Mittwoch, meine Kerle!!

EVERYONE!!! Frog react this man at once!
Are we going to do a boys cinema session this Wednesday?
All together on the sofa with popcorn and soda
Mooderator he is advertising his channel and stream in messhall, that is illegal
Party at Altbergs place!
Ban him willes
dont think I advertised my channel 
He didnt post link, so its fine.
pacific before italian front
Where do I get invite on Wednesday event?
Ooo I think you are not invited 😔
No
Anyway I'll be there LOL
I was joking
How I'm going to ask for you to be banned
Did smth happen? I cannot enter the game...
Any error you getting? Or just cannot load?
the shipping exe file has an error
What's the next eastern front map though? I forgot
Smolensk right?
eh I guess that can count for a Stalingrad like map
Smolensk is seems like. It is obviously Smolensk, but I wouldn’t trust this leak about the map, we don’t know exactly which part
Its not official yet
Does the part really matter?
Yes, I agree they could make 2 parts of each town on the eastern front why not. Stalingrad had 5 potential areas+, there is Carentan & PHL, SME - SMD. So expand eastern front is way more better and interesting, and anyways people want eastern front maps.
We will have three village/urban maps then, somethinh in the countryside would be cool too
Yes, two parts would be awesome. They are different to each other
Urban pls
It would be better not to double maps (except maybe Kharkov)
We have one fully urban already and will get another one
Only urban is boring
If big cities why not, Normandy has maps which are near
Many big battles in WW2 were fought in rural areas
What? Only urban is boring
Stalingrad etc, other maps, Rostov , Kiev , and both of them if two parts
No, one map for each is enough
So it’s not, 70% of maps are rural in game
On the eastern front?
At all
We are missing a forest map there
We were talking about the eastern front
Why western front has copies of maps which are boring like PHL, and people crying about it
No idea, I'm not a dev
PHL - Carentan, it’s the same area I would say, but 2 different maps
Should they make the same mistake for the eastern front? I dont think so
Just make different maps in 1942-43, maybe also 41 and 44
Voronezh, Demyansk, Lagoda, Rzhev, Kyiv,...
There are enough opportunities to make diverse maps in these two years
Eastern front maps is better so why not expand it
And people ask for Russian maps mostly
Yes, and gave a few options why not
Eastern front isnt solely Russia 😉
Rostov - winter / summer 1941 - 1942 different parts etc
Smolensk 2 parts
Stalingrad another part , it would be cool
Dont double the maps please
Its wasted development time, better give us a completely different map
There are not many big cities , Novgorod could be only 1 part and river in the middle - winter 1944
It is different maps, just the area is the same
We already have plenty of urban maps
But its not really different
On the eastern front just 1
Soon two, and Kharkov is pretty urban too
It’s good idea, western front has at least for 2 maps in 1 location
It isnt
Foy - Elsenborn
Purple Heart Lane - Carentan
Utah - just another beach a few kilometres away from Omaha beach.
Saint Mere Eglise - Saint Mere Du Mont
Kharkov - it’s Belgorod area
Kursk map - it’s Belgorod area and region
Tobruk - desert
El Alamein - desert
Stalingrad is once only
Purple Heart Lane and Carentan are with a KM of eachother.
I saw "44" and was about to hard 🪴 react someone
Less, they crossing in the corner
Foy and Elsenborn are a distance away from each other
Normandy was the starting point of the game, thats why we have different maps for it (And the battle of Normandy can be divided into smaller battles)
Kharkov and Kursk are set during different battles and its quite a distance between them
Same for El Alamein and Tobruk
It’s not quite distance, it’s the same Belgorod area
And US vs Germany was and is still the main focus of the game when it comes to factions
Its still completely different battles
Because it will get boring if we get just another area of the same city
Depicting a different battle would be better, especially since the eastern front was huge
Your brain on hedgerow maps
That doesnt mean they have to do the same for the eastern front
It’s so early to talk about the upcoming map, they would rework it 100 times, it’s long to wait until final release and announce
It is set in 1942-43, and there is a huge array of battles that could be done, there is no reason to just make 6 maps out of 3 places
It won’t come unpolished into release or unfinished
Gameplay reasons
Remember how the British released
For gameplay it would be best if we get different maps in different locations
No, it would be better if urban maps in the same locations, and rural maps around it
Only urban maps is boring and picking maps in the same three battles and areas wouldnt be that good
Especially if it comes to smaller battles like Smolensk
Different timelines 1941 / 1943,
Rostov - 1941 / 1942
That could work better, but even then different maps would be preferred
Guess why Normandy maps always feel the same, because they are all set in the same area
Anyways expansion of the eastern front , and on the eastern front urban maps fits more
But on the eastern front it wouldn’t feel the same
Plenty of fighting on the eastern front wasnt in urban areas
It definetely would
It’s not the same, cause eastern front it’s about different areas, not hedges
And were no hedgerows on the eastern front
The hedges are by far not the only reason why the maps feel pretty similar
It is, cause it takes 90% of the map
Eastern front is better
Hopefully this future games show isn't another "we've taken a German OP" scenario
Yea, it depends
Its the similar terrain, aestetics, and layout of the map mostly
Eastern front should be completely different from map to map
I hope it's more hell, but a little looser
Yep, Stalingrad perfectly captures the feeling of war while Normandy maps feel like vacation
It’s different terrain and layouts and assets
And that is why we need another Stalingrad map
The urban maps work really well, they are tight and chaotic
Its the only battle I think we should get different ones, it was one of the biggest and longest battles in history, deserves more love
Hello ben
Hey! (also goodbye... I should have logged off 1.5 hours ago
)
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Going away Thursday & Friday last week was a mistake. Too much to catch up on 
Yep,
It nice to have a mixture of slower country maps and more chaotic city maps, it seems to be a good balance. Elsenborne is one of my favs, but I love the urban fighting generally more
So would you announce new trailer after tomorrow Ben, hope you will be on and announce it
I think Ben will be just a spectator
I'll be here during Future Games Show don't worry 🫡
Ben, I know you know things
sup playa's, how did the PTE go?
Miscom from me on that one there. PTE was Stalingrad focused not the armour. Will do an armour one in the future all being well!
Hope that those who played liked Stalingrad though! 🙂
I think a completely different map would be preferred, but yes, if any battle should get multiple ones, then this (or Kursk(or Kharkov))
Hope y'all have enjoyed the up tick in comms though at least! ❤️
Keep doing that
I want you to hype me, to show teaser, i don't know if it was your idea but the 105 Sherman at the end of the last brief was amazing
@fluid pawn i have a question, do you know why the aset of pavlov s house was changed?
I thought it was a unique historical asset, I don't understand why the change
Yes the same question, I have question only about Pavlov’s house
SMDM and SME are completely different battles but are closer than Khakiv and Kursk. whats your point?
I would both put under the battle of Normandy. The difference is that these can easily be put together in a larger battle while Kharkov and Kursk cant since these were two different operations
Course we have. It’s better than complete radio silence which kills all hype.
Glad you liked that teaser 🔥
Not sure on that one. Can ask though 🫡
Please
Love the gif 🤣🤣
I'm like 90% sure it's smolensk based on what the devs hinted about the next map
And it all aligns with smolensk
I didn't see the leak
What's smolensk
Eastern Front battle in the city of smolensk
Atleast in 1943 there was no big Battle in the City
1941 would have been the better choice
It was the battle:
soviets entered the city, first it were recon squads, on Ba-64. After they run into town and started street fighting, and Germans defended the city with the rearguards - started retreating on the west
So, 1941 was larger scale battle - for 2 weeks for this city, street by street
So in point of accuracy - Smolensk is accurate
During the roadmap Q&A I believe
They mostly referred to timeframe than certain dates
I need to wait until any news in telegrams
I’ve heard it’s Smolensk, but I’m not sure in that leak about the entire map area. So it seems the leak was just the first sketch
And the area could be located in the place where is walls, I’ve analysed both maps, and picked up first area in south - where is walls, 15 churches, town walls, parks, cathedral, urban streets.
So that leak was possibly sketch where they found locations on the map, and seems it was first sketch
Maybe in the point where they started to find references maybe, like if it was first days after they decided smol, so anyways I wouldn’t believe in that map leak, needs official news
The north was almost destroyed and just boring side, so why I won’t believe that this leak is true, Captain Rutain just posted it even didn’t analysing it
It’s probably smolensk
Yep I think also
Still there wasn’t a big Battle there
Stalingraaad winter
Especially because of their major focuses on the eastern front now
Voronezh…
In point of game it is accurate, platoon vs platoon
Denyansk…
Yea, but other battles would be better
No Smolensk would be better
And it’s possibly the idea is around town walls in this town, around the map
What was the last map we received anyways? Wasn’t it the desert one
A platoon usually is 30 to 60 men, so 50 vs 50 is platoon vs platoon
It is accurate inside the grid
Please no Walls
Walls just at the HQs and corners, I don’t think it’s bad
It’s good travel point, you can just cross the map by walls
And give uniqueness to the map
The Industrial District would be best
Also 15+ churches is creating heights and elevation terrain creating cover
Enough church maps for now
I doubt that it’s industrial. Stalingrad vibes? Or Remagen / Driel thing where everybody would complain. + just look at the big tower straight in front of soviet HQ 2.
Imagine that soviet side would climb on that tower from the start of the game and just shoot from where to enemy HQ
No, it’s not disbalanced like on others maps - 15 churches create the ability to balance it, it’s symmetrical and on each side of the map, and you can climb on any of them and just shoot as sniper
The leaked map more lookrd like an industrial area
Yea nice more hills to climb and Tower on them which make attacking harder
It is industrial area where were nothing. Also this church near the square adds nothing to gameplay in point of gameplay reason. It is hidden behind houses. On south side - churches create heights for shooting and could be useful
But dying from arty on railway is better?
That has nothing to do with map Design
- north area were 80% destroyed, and you will see just ruins, gallows, and big tower in soviet hq , elevator. So in that point if you want industrial it could be just another Stalingrad map
So they obviously picked up the walls area, south
Why there will be a new urban eastern Front map before we Even have a Forest one will always be wierd to me
I wouldn’t say so
You dont even have official Info if it will be Smolensk
And Carentan streets
You mean you think they picked that area, we got nothing official right? 🙂
It isnt a medieval game
I’d rather have an Industrial area rather than hills with Tower on them
We got nothing official, so why I said let’s don’t believe in that leak map. Cause it’s completely first sketch, no secret that it was on Reddit a few days ago
I think so, cause on north were almost nothing, + on south it could create dominant map.
We have no official news, but this map which was leaked is looks like sketch and just to trick with dates etc, I expect that they could create better things than railway road. Of course and it’s interesting, just my assumption.
Okay okay
No Spoilers!!
Castle map
Oh god
We should get armor then
Can’t wait to fight the Soviets in knights armor with a sword
I’m monitoring telegrams each hour
I wouldn’t miss it, each other I watch on telegrams
Cause I don’t want believe in any rumours
Just calm down, wednesday will arrive a lot later if you wait so desperately
The Battle in the City itself was in late September, which is autumn
I’ll See if I Write that
But honestly, there would have been so many better options
I don’t know what will be on Wednesday exactly
Just need to wait
More content isn’t always better, especially in a Situation where the game needs reworks
That’s all, I can’t say anything, all I know rn is- that SPA was announced
Armor rework is a Step in the Right Direktion
But id take and infantry rework rather than just a new map
Agree
That makes sense
Instead of reworking current maps - just add something cool and keep old ones like old ones. Just move on and don’t stack and waste time on reworks of current maps, PHL was great, Carentan was great
Tobruk is great, Mortain is also great
Let’s move on, no needs to rework it
Anyways, an Eastern Front subfaction should be created before we get a new map for it
The Game needs a whole lot of reworks
If you just move on and dont care about things that need to be fixed the Game will die
Map reworks is ok, but gameplay aspects should rather be reworked
Map reworks is not ok
Add more better maps in future, and keep old maps as it is, it would work
Just show the contrast and progress and you can play on your hedges and on news maps
It’s potentially wasting resources and time - rework of the map and adds nothing
Move on, new updates new content are welcome
The best Maps in this Game are from BM
That’s false
Quality over Quantity
They also doing well maps, T17, I like Tobruk, Mortain, they should just to turn on full speed and potential and create the best maps
Mortain is rarely played
Mortain is well done but needs to move on
Best Maps won’t help the Game if it’s dead because it hasn’t gotten the reworks it needed
Mortain is a good map, but doesnt nearly as nice as Tobruk
Add two more eastern front maps after the next one, and three British so each of them has 6. But focus on reworks, and after that its time for a new faction
Fog 🙏
Night 😍
Paid dlc reskins ❤️
Make it happen T17 🤞
They could do even more
That’s exactly what we need
They have potential a lot of it
Can anyone tell me if Level 105 is somewhat low, or medium or high in an average game. It seems to me it is high when I look .
Level 200 is high
the max level is 500
Low
There are players who have level 30 and have a combat score 10 times greater than me
skill issue
Skill issue
Oh Please don't give me that crap about skill. I heard it all before playing counter strike
I have a theory on why I perform so bad. It is a computer speed issue.
Could depend on what they are doing. Taking out tanks and garrisons are big points for combat.
I killed 1 person in a (loss) warfare on Stalingrad (not new) and had like a couple hundred combat scores and took out 4 garrisons (my sniper took out 6, also high combat scores)
I have been playing shooter games since the 1990's I think I am qualified to question a game.
- you didn't kill any tanks
- Didn't take out Garrisons
how much combat power does killing a garrison give you
i never noticed it as being much
- Yes I am one of the worst combat players. But why? I am thinking it is a computer speed issue as some of the players are moving at near impossible speeds.
It was something within the update. I am on my phone so I can tell you more post workout lol
My triceps huuurt... Onto biceps! Lol
I have seen things happen in a fraction of a second. No one has that fast reaction speed.
It's upper body. I did shoulders, triceps, now biceps, back and chest
Just a lady trying to slim. 😉
LF SHOOTERS. NA . DM ME. PC
Why are some players obsessed with "skill" and totaly ignore they are using a computer or a machine that is immersed in technology.
This is from 17.1
xp != combat power
I can assure you I didn't kill much this game 😅
(just took my username out - July 2, 2025)
Most games I spot, I don't kill... I just keep an OP up, call stuff out, and take out nodes/garrisons 😬
For the first time I got a whole squad with no mics. I always play officer with open squad so Im used to not all of them have mics but I was not ready for all five not talking 🤣 they were very active though and followed me so it was fine, but I was talking to myself the whole time 🤣
In this case it is
i concede
Yall seen that s44 trailers 2 weeks ago? Now that's a trailer
Take it to #off-topic-mess-hall 😉
It's literally gif spam in there no ty
Well this is for talk of HLL, not other games 😉
Lol gotcha. Can't talk about competitors
Anyone like the new studdergrad tho? Looks dusty af and somehow foggy
i want to kill myself bro i was at the end of a match and then the game decided to crash
what is the hiring process / stipulation like to become the hell let loose community manager, just general curiousity
you only miss match bonus and maybe commendations
yeah i know it just angers me
I used to play with a PC that gave put about 30-40FPS with a 5 year old CPU and GPU. Still consistently had positive KDs with 40-50 kills a game. Its not about the PC
That is more FPS than in a playstation 🥲
RIP. Understandable tho, that PC was pretty good when i bought it. Has been superseded now and i plan to start getting into HLL again with my nee PC
Consoles usually are FPS limited and the optimisation for Consoles isnt there
Honestly they do. If you specifically train yourself then you can do it
Hello @pine ember
Hello
🇫🇮 🇫🇮 🇫🇮
GOAT movie
One of the best (anti) war movies ever made
Right on top with Stalingrad and Das Boot
Fr fr
Yes
The 2017 version
1955 is better
I agree, even though I only saw a few parts
so tomorrow Guadalcanal is gonna be announced right?
yes
Movie was boring
Admittedly I may have only gotten 30-45min in
so many people fixated on finland
hello everyone! just downloaded the game and its really cool
Because Finland is the best
This isnt a Minecraft server
what the hell is going on
Yes it is
chicken jockey
Oh god
Anyone wanna play soon?
mb mb
Hell let Loose 2 tomorrow?
HLL vs Marvel crossover
before gta6
:O freshbak has the vid about the tank stuff up
Hell Let Loose: Electric Boogaloo
Hell let loose 2: More Loose than ever
Hell Let Loose: Pacific
Worms Let Loose
Hopefully they announce reworks, reworks, reworks
Sorry but this time I need to tell you to shut up
We are getting Finland
+3 Days (because he added a flag)
I would love this
what do you think? will they release any tank changes witht he update?
I hope
did you see the vid
At least the new stats
i sure hope they dont yet
Where vid?
freshbak has one up now
Only urban is boring too 😉
But lets ignore the fact that there wasnt only forest combat in WW2 in Finland
Yes, it's not what I thought
I thought they were making it more realistic but they are making it more arcadey lol
No what?
Guys... Panther was removed from Stalingrad
THEY ARE DOING IT, FINALLY!!
T34 looks fun to drive
#GiveUsBackThePanther
#Notforpre1943maps
Elise going around spoiling the fun, again!
So nice!!!
If they now do the same with the G43, StG44 and almost all DLC, that would be really good
Plus finland
panther not on all maps isnt that bad, but at the same tiger made a slug is bs
Fun fact, in reality it was pretty easy to drive
Sparta at some point the copium prices worldwide gonna rise because of you.
What is that weird red Finnish flag, the Cross is Blue, Not red
scream if you love norway
Do you know what i love?
Its fine
Okay okay!!!
just dont please
||I ate chips today||
?
I was going to say Finland
Ngl I just cried so hard laughing rn
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Quite a good trailer tbh 😆
Bold of them to base a whole new game on Mortain
wack
got a download of it before the CIA swiped it away
bastards will have to take it from my cold dead hands
T17 logic: instead of making our game better just take the worst part and make it the whole game
I reckon a 2026 release
I was really hoping T17 was going to go back to what they were mediocre at and port the game to mobile
I copied it, jajaja not fast enough
sorry wrong channel
🤣🤣
ah man
RIP WW2
This is sad now
Can we atleast get Finnish, and Voronezh and Lagoda map?
i made the reddit post, you guys have an impressive response time
nwi took like 6 hours lmao
may the odds, be ever in your favour young Mod-ling

we dont hug here
Ty😭
but... but... I need hugs
I need a new bot command...
Tropical weather
almost like being in a jungle
Im not even sure if I should love or cry rn
Yeah like a indochina jungle
Maybe both? Like the Joker?
🤭
Yaaay Elise is writing!
Guadalcanal confirmed. Get hype
I like how everyone is desperately doing the usual banter to avoid talking about the elephant in the room 😄
Jajaja
No banter here, I'm just doing a bit of light reading
I will buy a pc if they kill the game
To play s44 with u
uwu ❤️
Now i need to ban you a second time
I'll welcome you like we welcomed Austria back then ❤️
No need 😀
Ayayayay
I'm your little butterfly 🦋
At least we dont have to live with austria now.
Green black and blue make the colours in the sky
Ben was writing
Im sure they would be worse then bavaria
Oi, get back to S44 young man
But he stopped
Get back into a tank
For real 🤣🤣🤣
poor Ben 😄
T17 and ruining their own games, name a more iconic duo
Which trailer? We dont know of any trailer.
S44 and towing

