mess-hall

[solar slate]

britain case is another goring cocaine mistake

[echo karma]

Bait indeed lol we ain't talking post war. Pre 43. Germany was dominant. Had most of EU conqured.

[night lark]

Muph, reply to me in #ww2-history please

[echo karma]

No access lol

[night lark]

RIP

[slate canopy]

@inland marsh be polite

[slate canopy]

Get the role in Channels and Roles

[echo karma]

What role?

[night lark]

its worth joining, the WW2 history section is pretty good. Lots of really informative and knowledgeable people.

[brisk garnet]

oh great another wehraboo smh

[pine ember]

I am none…

[wooden cloud]

Uhh why do you think this is me, Im concerned about most of these reworks

[slate canopy]

Y'all are screwing up my workout 😒

Cannot do Arnold presses in peace... 😮‍💨

[brisk garnet]

Get off your phone for 10 minutes, not that hard

[slate canopy]

Watching my workout on my phone????

🍯 gets em again 🤭

[faint depot]

I don’t like the new tinkerer ability. It is unrealistic.

It’s not Krupp factory on the battlefield.

[pine ember]

I don’t like the DLC we get

[solar slate]

i can get behind a tank modification if it's some sort of frontline node or HQ you gotta go do it at

looks like theyre making it into a class though which is a bit lame, i really hope it's not something like "choose module and hold E" wherever

[faint depot]

It’s not Krupp factory. All those modifications doesn’t fit at all. If you want to take manoeuvrable tank, just request another tank. They could add new tanks for this feature.

[solar slate]

then it's just gonna be
-> get heavy
-> tinker to go fast
-> get to camp spot
-> tinker to get armor
-> sit and farm

well it's weird, how are you gonna maek a more manouverable tank in the field

but armies did field upgrades all the time, i dont see it being a problem, but the way theyre phrasing it makes me concerned about it

[faint depot]

Just simple - add different tanks with different specifications.

[solar slate]

yeah i dont think the feature is needed by any stretch

it sounds weird what theyre prioritizing on it

[faint depot]

Well, agrees 👍🏻

[boreal temple]

every update and/or update announcement. eating good.

[solar slate]

why not let us customize the ammo we are carrying instead and add things like being able to replace the loaded shell without firing, or add a commander hatch mechanic,

things that make the core gameplay of tanks a more nuanced experience with needed qol

this tinkering stuff sounds like just that, very fidgety mechanics that don't really end up adding much to the gameplay

[fringe horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/youknow-you-gif-19056787

[boreal temple]

pre-complaining

[steady plinth]

Nice of the devs to kill the game so we can all enjoy BF6 together

[faint depot]

New addition for changing tank specifics during the combat is not good.

[solar slate]

im not even too unhappy with what they were talking about in the dev brief, i think emphasizing each tanks usefulness and not trying to balance it dryly is exactly the way to go, but idk if some of their designers play hell let loose much, there are so many low hanging fruits with tank gameplay to add depth and qol

[faint depot]

Tinkerers would not visually change all tanks. Cause that’s impossible. Side skirts were only for Panzer IV. Sandbags were only for Sherman.

[azure heath]

It’s just easier for them to blame someone when they can put a face on it and vent about it.

[solar slate]

the tinkering stuff doesn't sound promising, it's likely not actively harmful, but it's too minute and fidgety how they're describing it and kinda goes against emphasizing each tank's strenghts and weaknesses

[faint depot]

And at all, what’s the problem to add different tanks, with different own specifics, like mobile, firearm, armour protection. Why it would changes for the same tanks?

[worthy charm]

I thought people would just blame T17 and move on...

[wooden cloud]

Ironically all I do is try to convey what players want and don't want

[faint depot]

If you want more speed - take Panzer 1. If you want more armour protection - take Panzer 2. If you want both - request Panzer 3.

[worthy charm]

Damn the blame game these days is rough.

[faint depot]

Not customise this old Pz. 4 tank.

[azure heath]

They pulling people in that took no actual part.

[worthy charm]

The panzer two didnt even had a main gun... Its was more a tracked armored vehicle than a tank.

[faint depot]

Just an example. It could be different rare / not rare tanks.

All tanks to compare should be checked on their own specifics, and being added.

[faint portal]

LOL I love that ppl think I have any pull on anything 🙂

[faint depot]

We have this tank for years in game. And all we can get now, it’s just his customisation?

[worthy charm]

Is Raz is the mastermind behind it all in truth? 🧐

Sus

[wooden cloud]

Surprise - Expression is Raz and I

[azure heath]

Honestly, I think, if done right, tinkering could work, but I don’t think it should be a role, just something you can alter in the HQ. It adds more to the tanking experience and gives the tank crew more choice instead of putting more burden on the commander who is already struggling to keep garrisons up.

[faint depot]

So people asked for the new vehicles. It was different suggestions about what the game could get.

[worthy charm]

And the evil enforcer of your gang is Altberg isnt he!!!

I found it all out!

xD

[solar slate]

yeah it doesn't sound like it's being done right though

[azure heath]

No, definitely not, but that’s why we have a PTE, right?

[faint depot]

It is part of unrealism. Imagine how you would increase your armour size at the HQ? With box of tools. Also side skirts - it’s visually visible, but other stuff doesn’t.

[solar slate]

watch them take away the repair tool from tinkerers and now you have to minmax redeploy your squad members to play optimally

[faint depot]

If it was announced - it would be added. Tinkerers.

[azure heath]

It’s a game, since when did we have the massive maps that show everyone on the field.

[azure heath]

Then why put it in the PTE?

[faint depot]

Lazy work on tinkerers seems like. Why not to pull different vehicles & tanks in game?

[azure heath]

It’s a Public Testing Environment, if we don’t like it we can wait.

[runic veldt]

idk bro, it sounds fine to me. There's always a meta, but it could make some fun combos. The problem is that heavies are too OP and other tank types are just useless for most maps.

I think it would be better if they made that loadout to switch seats quicker or somethingh

[solar slate]

being able to add side skirts and plates is fine to me, also being able to add MG's to driver or some such, gods please being able to customize the amount of ammo you're carrying, each bit of weight making the tank slower being the main drawback and having to take a minute extra to bolt it on in hq

[faint depot]

With different specifics , armour size. If somebody wants to ride on fast tank and has less armour protection - take Sd. Kfz 222. If you want heavy armour - request Ferdinand.

[wooden cloud]

I think its great they are trying new things to add depth to game, it wont be so great if its not fun and it isn't taken out. But i can't be upset about something that hasn't happened yet.

[azure heath]

More burden on commander, lot of extra work to make all these tanks and new stats for them, and so much more.

[faint portal]

LOL Litterally, apparently I develop HLL

Speaking of me developing HLL be sure to tune into my live stream where i hijack the HLL twitch channel this friday where i can tell you all about how perfect and no problems this tank rework is that i clearly created from the ground up myself!

(I legit know nothing about this change aside from dev brief lol)

[azure heath]

I dont have all day, so I’m ditching.

[wooden cloud]

I totally forgot they gave you the keys... maybe we actually are HLL

[worthy charm]

Thats the smartest thing someone said about the tank rework and its not even close.

[faint depot]

So why they have time to introduce armour rework. They had a lot of months. So let’s wait what will bring us brand new vehicles. More hope on new vehicles and new stuff in game.

[wind shore]

Oh an HLL dev?

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/hands-looking-eyeglasses-my-hands-gif-16705955

[dusty bolt]

What does everyone think of the new tank updates

[azure heath]

There is literally one art guy for the game. (That I know of at least)

[dusty bolt]

🗣️

[solar slate]

well it's conflicting to me, i really like the philosopphyh they're outlining of emphasizing what makes each tank useful, the tinkering stuff goes against that philosophy they just outlined. it's probably not harmful to have but i reiterate from earlier, tanks have so many low hanging fruit changes that would add depth and qol, and i'm betting none of those are getting implemented

[faint portal]

HLL was me all along apparently, I've been developing it for years in the shadows

[worthy charm]

Just read the last 5 hours of this channel or #console-general-chat and you know it.

[faint depot]

They had 7+ months. In 7+ months we could get something new. So why it is coming into roadmap. And expecting something new.

[wooden cloud]

All i can say is what that show on 8/20 about "the future of HLL" and it will all make sense

[worthy charm]

To be fair the console guys are more "negative"

[echo karma]

Mod support when?

[faint depot]

I’m talking only about new vehicles.

[dusty bolt]

April fools is in april, not August

[echo karma]

8/20 lol bf6 beta yall. Nobody cares. We want bf

[faint depot]

Armour rework seems nice. But tinkerer is useless addition. Add new vehicles in next year, after armour rework.

[solar slate]

but yea let me be clear i love that they are actually trying to shake up the gameplay itself

[wind shore]

Us console players are basically fighting in Vietnam with how bad console render distances r

[wooden cloud]

Oh people are gonna care...

[faint portal]

I can see the heavy tank meta turns into solos taking both heavies- driving out- dying instantly and then you get rolled constantly while you wait 10-20 minutes for them to respawn lol

[echo karma]

If armour doesn't get love like s44 idk bro. Nothing is complex in this game

[azure heath]

It’s a future games showcase.. so another game?

[echo karma]

You and 2k others it seems huh

[solar slate]

hope the designers could listen to the part of the community that wants the game to be a good experience for long and short term players

[wind shore]

HLL2: Napalm Boogaloo

[fervent dagger]

The medium tanks are getting raised up as well so hopefully it won't be too impactful if one team has a heavy and one doesn't.

[solar slate]

idk if they read discord tho, prolly not much

[novel geyser]

the day they make a hll2 is the day I go bald

[wind shore]

I’m already bald so looks like we getting HLL2

[echo karma]

There's 3 devs and they were on the podcast already. They don't know nothing about anything

[azure heath]

I’m not against new vehicles btw, just I think the tinkering thing could be good

[worthy charm]

I will screenshot this and find you the day they announce it.

[wind shore]

Isn’t the current dev team all new and the original dev team all gone or something

[azure heath]

Okay, I’m ditching this time

[novel geyser]

disclaimer what I said in that message expires in a month

[faint depot]

So, if something comes into roadmap, please do something new. My hope on the old assets like Hummel. And brand new vehicles like Jagdpanthers, StuG, SU-152.

[solar slate]

absolutely want the armor rework to go through and be successful, please also rework warfare to not be a traincap trainwreck with most of the "features" being nearly pointless busywork, and SL controls being abysmal

[echo karma]

Hll2 is obviously a thing. Otherwise why hire AAA devs and rebrand the game

[faint portal]

I would love more complex armor for sure, but i worry this would turn into squad 44 and the playerbase would die lol
i think HLL sits in that "approachable realism" area

That said, more power to the players imo. Have the server set the "level" of realism. Like a "comp" mode- "milsim" mode "casual" mode and just play whatever server you want fuck it

[worthy charm]

That all relative, but youre somewhat right that the current team isnt the "original team".

But they arent new to my knowledge.

[winter rover]

Most of the playerbase plays infantry anyways.

[novel geyser]

the thing is, team 17 didnt make hell let loose, they bought it and took over development, taking over development is very different from making a game from scratch

[faint depot]

I agree about tank rework. It is nice addition! Well done! But about adding tinkerer instead of adding new tanks on the battlefield seems very boring.

[fervent dagger]

Team defo ain't just 3 people either

[novel geyser]

HLL2 will not happen

the games show thing will likely be the new eastern front map and maybe the new vehicles

[wind shore]

Problem with HLL2 is that they’d either have to stick to WW2 or go WW1, especially for the scope they would want. Unless we get the Pacific Campaign here I never see an HLL2 being likely

[solar slate]

despite all its flaws HLL is the premiere WW2 shooter IP

[faint portal]

I never said they dont, that's for sure the case! agreed 100%

that said, the armor/inf balance needs to be there. With this armor rework if you're just getting farmed by armor b/c your tanks cant get any heavies then the infantry gameplay is impacted too which imo shouldnt happen

[echo karma]

I would like at the least s44 mechanics where you repair certain modules on the tank itself. Not that hard. Certain modules take damage more, engine etc. Ammo rack can cook off. Etc. These are basic. And makes armour much more fun imo. In s44 certain tanks are better vs other bc of this. And certain tanks suck.

[novel geyser]

unfortunately

[solar slate]

i absolutely see T17 launching dev on HLL2 if they secure funding for it

[novel geyser]

I dont

[faint depot]

Looks like tinkerer was made instead of a few new vehicles.

[wind shore]

New vehicles won’t solve anything

[azure heath]

Don’t get me wrong, I’m very skeptical about it, but I think if done right it can be a great addition to the game and add more of the much needed depth to tanking.

[fervent dagger]

That was defo not the case

[faint portal]

I think the big difference there though is most of the time you can just get revived easy in squad 44. HLL you're lucky to have a garrison period lol so imagine dying while repairing a component and then running from HQ

[novel geyser]

the Hell let loose team got obliterated a while back now, idk the size of it these days but I dont think its big enough to give us HLL2 any time soon

[echo karma]

Now will 2 heavy only, do we see more campy playstyles. Plus longer cooldown. Now a heavy dominates all tanks. Will that change?

[winter rover]

At the same time, anti-tank weapons should be more effective. For example, a rocket hit to the track should completely immobilize a tank

[solar slate]

to be fair it's a good thing to be able to swap out modules for minute changes to gameplay

rather than spamming the game with diff tanks, which are minutely different

[faint portal]

Makes sense to me

[faint depot]

So, they have years. At least - 1 year to introduce something new in the game. SPGs would be new, if it’s not only Hummel.

[winter rover]

And this can open up new tank types, like tank destroyers

[wind shore]

The nice thing about a tank re work would be if we could use the tank rifle to actually kill specific enemies inside of a tank

[wooden cloud]

I am absolutely dreading what is incoming with this heavy meta and really hoping it is adjusted before release

[worthy charm]

Come down, we dont even now the stats yet. Also camping is a word than can be misused. They also just could be used in more defensive situations.

[winter rover]

Which can be cheaper to get but is only effective against tanks but vulnerable to infantry

[solar slate]

yeah if those weapons don't get infinitely resupplied on respawn, and if one track gets taken out you can still spin

[novel geyser]

limit AT to designated anti tank squads

[wind shore]

Bad idea

[novel geyser]

why

[winter rover]

And more anti-tank weapons like we have in Squad44

[faint depot]

Hummel together with the new tank would be nice addition. If it would be only Hummel - it seems that all time were not used for armour rework. And just only 10% of months of work were used. In those 10% they have added mechanics of SPGs to current assets. Other time they didn’t used this time to make new vehicles for new class.

[wind shore]

Creating more squad designations just means more complexity which will confuse and annoy players if anything

[faint portal]

idk, like i think if mediums become viable then it would take away some of the impact from the "heavy meta" being even stronger but like you said i'm all up for switching things up and in essence make tanking "longer". Med tank battles are the best, period.

[echo karma]

Repair stations are a thing. And engineers are used. Driving to Gary isn't an issue imo. It's tanks in general, they are very simple. Side angling a tank doesn't result in much ricochets. All boomba animations are the same. No ammo rack cook-offs. No bright orange blow throws that AP would do. No real balance either. P4 has a 75 yet can't front pen a 75 or 76?

[winter rover]

the best part about Squad 44 imo compared to HLL is their tank gameplay and anti-tank roles. So much more fun than in HLL

[novel geyser]

I think the names are pretty straight forward
Infantry - standard lot
anti tank - anti tank
engineering - engineer
recon - recon
(Yes I think engineers should be their own squads too)

[faint depot]

1 month working seems like if it would be only Hummel. And only for programmers. So, let’s get new SPG vehicles together with old ones.

[solar slate]

medium tanks being the most common would definitely be a good thing for the game, i love my panther drive handling though

[novel geyser]

any newbie that gets confused can just play an infantry squad, anti tank and engineering squads can then be designated to those who actually play the role properly

[worthy charm]

Engineer with support hopefully

[wind shore]

By increasing complexity of the game from its current core you decimate the fundemental reason on why the game succeeds as it is

[solar slate]

yeah ppl gotta remember new players get fkin lost as it is

[novel geyser]

its not that much more complex
if the playerbase cant handle a few more specalist squads then the game is doomed to never evolve

[worthy charm]

One could say a tutorial would help with that.

[faint portal]

imo unacceptable if all tanks dont "drive" smoothly. Like the panther can be the fast nimble tank idc but all tanks cant drive as crappy as PZ 4 and get stuck on things. Hoping it's noticeably different when driving tanks and there's improved smoothness

[wind shore]

is the hungarian or leopard helmet better for oak leaf dlc

[solar slate]

yea if they make me play P4 all game and don't fix its driving i'm actually just not gonna play tanks anymore lmao

[fervent dagger]

Yeah smooth driving is one of the main areas of the rework, that and all the tanks moving faster.

[echo karma]

This will probably be the playstyle with a long cooldown. You won't push without infy support. You'll sit in vantage points. Fuel should be more abundant but we'll see. I wonder if they rebalance the load out having less HE.

[solar slate]

assuming you're really a dev it's really great to see you here actually talking about the game

[worthy charm]

I couldnt agree more, hopefully they improved the tank driving especially on the Pz. 4.

[wind shore]

Exactly. The newer community is completely lost already, and there’s very few servers for them to play in to learn as it is. I’ve noticed many players just resorting to yelling and screaming over it.

[wooden cloud]

Theres not gonna be any push at all. You just sit and wait until some dumb dumb on the other team full sends their heavies, take them out and farm away.

[solar slate]

lucky, almost none of the new gen players i encounter speak anything at all

[novel geyser]

what I find funny is that easy red 2 a fairly ugly but nifty unity game manages to make tanks traverse over trenches a billion times better than HLL

[echo karma]

It succeds because it is simple yet hard to master. Some things should have complexity tho. Not everyone can read mill dots. Not everyone knows about in game mechanics like where to put garrisons etc

[wind shore]

is the hungarian or leopard helmet better for oak leaf dlc

[novel geyser]

idk whichever you think looks best

[echo karma]

Not to mention, do mines 1 shot a heavy still. Does recon do anything to it? Does up armouring it mean it can take 1 more shot? And alot of the German maps are very campy and lopsided.

[wind shore]

alr

[wooden cloud]

No clue but Im gonna test all of this stuff on Friday

[azure heath]

So I gave this I thought, I know you’re not at liberty to say much.

I stated something about there being one or very few art guy(s) and they don’t have the time to make another tank arsenal and you’re saying that because of this event showcase it will make sense.

Using my two brain molecules I came to the conclusion that they were preoccupied on something that’s being revealed at this event.

[echo karma]

Bf6 for me. Got to blow up new York lol

[worthy charm]

Are we getting a video? 🥹

[echo karma]

I hope gebatron tests it all.

[wooden cloud]

All i can say is that its "the future of HLL" because t17 said "its the future of HLL" lol

[faint portal]

litteraly

[wind shore]

Why did tanks for console get dumbed down anyways

[faint portal]

?

[azure heath]

They did?

[wooden cloud]

of course. the people need to know all the tonks

[worthy charm]

They did?

[echo karma]

That and having things pc doesn't have in it

[solar slate]

im inhaling hopium for them actually having added a map for winter war or continuation war

[fervent dagger]

Be a bit awkward if all the tanks felt terrible to drive after the rework lol

[wind shore]

Yeah they removed the clutch from tanks on console

[azure heath]

Jinx!

And why’s the timer back!!

[faint portal]

is my boy trolling? I cant tell

[worthy charm]

Damn...

You know why

[wooden cloud]

What even goes on over there with console

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/riot-gif-22170733

[azure heath]

I should get a special role that doesn’t get a timer 😅

[wind shore]

I recall there being a clutch for tanks on PC, I ran tank for quite a while. Granted I could definitely be wrong, but I do think I remember there being a clutch.

[worthy charm]

Im sorry 😢

Dont be mad at me

[novel geyser]

a clutch?
You change gears manually in tanks
but thats just a button press to go gear up or gear down

[fervent dagger]

Part of the rework is to add 7 more gears but keep the movement speed the same.

[wind shore]

Ok do U know how a manual transmission works irl

[worthy charm]

The day I got mod and found out I had to Time in #1098158460463480842. Never have felt that empowered in my life.

[azure heath]

That’s gotta be some really strong hopium, because it’s unfortunately unlikely. But who know, anything can happen.

[novel geyser]

not the technicalities of it but I know you need the clutch down to change gear

[wind shore]

You hold clutch shift gears release clutch boom in next gear, rinse repeat

[solar slate]

it's gonna turn into copium very soon

[azure heath]

So you’re saying I should become a moderator?

[novel geyser]

yeah I dont think a clutch was ever a thing
if it was it was removed long ago before 1.0

[solar slate]

i think you slipped in here from an alternative universe

[wind shore]

Like I said I could be wrong but I played on PC for 2+ years.

[novel geyser]

I first played just before the soviets were added and I dont believe there was any clutch for tanks

[wind shore]

I only play on console now cuz #1 HLL free on gamepass and #2 my PC died somehow (i spent more money on my cars and pc got jealous ig)

[faint portal]

i heard commander has double cap weight too.... hehe jkjk
yeah def no clutch on PC or console

[wind shore]

Commander at level 9 gets scoped kar98k for Germans bro didn’t you know???

[azure heath]

it does though, right?

because I was seeding, they had two guys in cap circle and I contested as command

[fervent dagger]

As part of the rework level 9 tank commander gets you the ray gun as part of your loadout

[faint depot]

<@&365680483276816385> Dear moderator! Could you please put the emoji on my suggestion? Bot didn’t put it. Thanks!

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1405323388683161721

[novel geyser]

if you find all the secret gringlebobs on remagen you actually get teleported to iwo jima

[wooden cloud]

also if you turn off your engine you rep faster

[worthy charm]

https://forms.gle/fy28Ui2hMfTDbCxx8

[faint depot]

Thank you! @worthy charm

[wind shore]

Guys you can blow up buildings you just need to shoot it with 100 AP shells

[echo karma]

Or 1 stug round

[wooden cloud]

no no you have to sit there with the repair torch on it for 30 minutes to burn it down

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/mat-pat-game-theory-five-nights-at-freddy's-movie-fnaf-gif-7977763299378802749

[wind shore]

No you need 100 AP shells out of an IS-1 for it to work

[azure heath]

gracias

[faint portal]

True, i saw it on reddit 2 years ago!

[novel geyser]

there is a single tree asset in hurtgen forest that has the old experimental destructible model that the devs forgot to remove so go ahead go find it

[wind shore]

Wow an unpaid internship to make grown men cry

[echo karma]

I'd gebatron says so then I'll belive it

[slate canopy]

They never said it was paid... lol I have a full time job, and it ain't this.

[novel geyser]

is moderating an official discord even CV worthy

[faint portal]

@swift nacelle say yes to this

[wind shore]

I mean you can technically put “Community Management at Team17” on ur résumé

[echo karma]

No, you could be honing your hll skills then doing this.

[slate canopy]

Nah, that's Ben's official title. He's paid for that.

[wooden cloud]

I hope one day Geb just gets bored and starts telling people the most random false things about HLL so folks believe it

[wind shore]

What the hell is McDonald’s gonna do? Actually check my references?

[echo karma]

Probaly 20k a year. Is that really paid? You make more than that at mcds for less bs no?

[slate canopy]

Some may 🤷‍♀️

[novel geyser]

who gets more verbal abuse during work, mcdonalds worker or ben from the hll discord 💔

[wooden cloud]

Dude poor Ben. At least he gets paid to be here

We all choose to be here

[solar slate]

"volunteer community executive"

[novel geyser]

you... choose?

[echo karma]

Greg vanished. Gone. Never to be seen again

[wind shore]

Who the hell is Ben and how can I harass him?

[slate canopy]

Don't.

[wintry thistle]

I can make it the latter rn

[faint portal]

ben is king discord

[echo karma]

Greg, Greg, where art thou? Throw down your hair mylady

[novel geyser]

harass him by saying how much of a good job he is doing and give him £1 on paypal

[wind shore]

Sorry what’s an £

[echo karma]

Wombat used to stream on twitch tho

[solar slate]

harass him by calling him Benjamin

[fervent dagger]

In fact, do that to the devs as well while you are there.

[novel geyser]

third world currency

[faint portal]

Greg actually went to another game! He's even the voice in one of the trailers hahaha
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2201320/Date_Everything/

[wind shore]

i only speak McDonalds currency aka the big Benjamin Buttons

[echo karma]

And wombat was in here every day kicking it too. Early in the morning too like 8am

[worthy charm]

Poor ben got so many pings today, im sure he sprinted out of his office as soon as the post went up. xD

[faint portal]

she actually got the sweetest gig of them all!

[novel geyser]

rip wombat
blended in the wombat blender

[solar slate]

she became a 3d artist?

[faint portal]

dude she community manages baldurs gate 3 now!

[wind shore]

Oh i feel bad for her

[novel geyser]

better fate than staying here tbh

[echo karma]

Haven't talked to her in a few months. Best CM I've seen in awhile tho. Yall wouldn't know Bex

[worthy charm]

Ohhh dont be so negative... 🥲

[faint portal]

she's amazing tbh!

[worthy charm]

We are a nice community

[hybrid sage]

Im happy for anyone that graduates from this game

[wind shore]

HLL community will always complain but y’all are gonna play the game no matter what the devs do rlly

[novel geyser]

I have to be negative its in the contract

[worthy charm]

@faint portal Eyyy, what wrong about that. 😭

[echo karma]

We aint never seeing another wombat again tho. That was a CM tho. She'd answer the stupidest questions I could come up with

[faint portal]

kinda a side eye HAHAHHAHA

[worthy charm]

Also those War Correspondents with their external give rights again

Altberg already does that to me 🥲

[faint portal]

she was secretly a meme lord hahaha

[wind shore]

I should be the next Community Manager. My experiences? 5 minutes in D-DAY 24/7 NEWCOMERS WELCOME server with level 2 commander.

[echo karma]

And folecia fine as a mfer too. Which I learned later after seeing her in dev video features.

[solar slate]

i havent played for a month actually coz i got tired of no one talking or doing basic sht, gameplay turned from a tactical shooter into a cat herder

[fervent dagger]

So what your saying is we are good to add Nicki Minaj as a commander skin?

[novel geyser]

I got so many good ideas tbh T17 should hire me as an ideas guy

[worthy charm]

What jumps higher a Kangaroo or a house?

[wind shore]

Go play on the 504th server it’s much much better imo

[echo karma]

I think they ought to put her logo on a tank or something or in a Map as an Easter egg

[novel geyser]

I can sit around in my office and people come up to me for ideas and I just say things that seem cool with no thought on how it would affect the game as a whole

[worthy charm]

😭

[wind shore]

Only if you can convince them to give us a tail for level 10 engineer

[worthy charm]

External Stickers even

[solar slate]

except the comp players

[echo karma]

There interns cant figure out the spaghetti code so

[faint portal]

should be on my discord hahaha

[fervent dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/goblin-gif-24234276

[wind shore]

Guys we should do a protest outside of T17 Headquarters for them to give us more helmets

[worthy charm]

Damn this community cant be on the same page for once!

[novel geyser]

they really should listen to the community more (me)

[wind shore]

I need a Young Dolph themed helmet for my WW2 officer loadout to show how pimpin I am.

[boreal temple]

wonder if they've ever thought about pleasing everyone. would seem absolutely silly if they haven't.

[worthy charm]

You want to go to England now?

[novel geyser]

literally impossible

[worthy charm]

I doubt it

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-point-debate-argument-angel-gif-17274775

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[wind shore]

Realistically you can’t appease everyone for this game. Always some critique either way. However, all they have to do to gain community support in leaps and bounds is to actually give us a Pacific Campaign expansion like they said they would 3-4 years ago

[novel geyser]

@worthy charm increase the timer

[echo karma]

Reddit ama again? Weekly updates maybe? T17 community communication is horrible. wombat was real about that. Every week we heard something. Even if it was nothing

Mods what's with the strict wording restrictions bro

[slate canopy]

Tempting.

[boreal temple]

wonder if they've ever thought about making a better game?

[worthy charm]

@faint portal That unfair 😆

[slate canopy]

Automod. Not our control 🤷‍♀️

[wind shore]

I dream of storming Iwo Jima with a flamethrower……

It is in my DNA…

[worthy charm]

All hell will break lose

[novel geyser]

is that a
a
pacific mentioned

[echo karma]

That is a straight lie. Try again. Delete the bot.

[thin lotus]

continually gives the safest non-answers ever

OMG YOU'RE THE GREATEST

[slate canopy]

Nope. can't do that.

[tall kettle]

https://i.imgur.com/oqjthtn.png

[faint portal]

This speaks to my soul. the amount of times my messages dont send b/c i have a curse word in them. ffs

[echo karma]

You know you can customize the bot right?

[slate canopy]

I don't have control over it. 🙂

[worthy charm]

You naughty boi

[boreal temple]

Would you say you're more upset than it appears in text?

[echo karma]

So you're not mod huh? Doesn't have access to the server bots

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-indubitably-yes-agree-for-sure-gif-10644344277914339713

[worthy charm]

Only the the HLL discord gods can do that!

[novel geyser]

theres a food chain you see

[echo karma]

So t17 is suppressing my freedom of speech. Gotcha

[worthy charm]

The same gods that have blessed me with .counter

#mess-hall message

[fervent dagger]

It looks like the real hell let loose, was friendship all along

[worthy charm]

You still cant do it.

[novel geyser]

.counter

[faint portal]

Have you ever heard of this game called war of rights.. i think that game has that 👀

[worthy charm]

You are cooler then sparta but still cant

[novel geyser]

one day we will get it to work and no one will believe us

[worthy charm]

-# its because he likes Warthunder

[echo karma]

No but I heard of this couple going to jail in Britain cuz they said something naughty on Facebook

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/community-ken-jeong-ben-chang-cant-see-small-gif-5154350

[worthy charm]

I got the same thing with Lol

[novel geyser]

I think its russian brainwashing making you feel compelled to play

[worthy charm]

A mystic force makes be play ranked

[echo karma]

Will is2 be dethroned as best tank in hll?

[fervent dagger]

Yeah, its speed is being set to 3mph

[echo karma]

Also funny how they drop that Tele and Ben is not here to answer any questions.

[novel geyser]

bed time in blighty

[solar slate]

Croc is tuning in for him

[novel geyser]

ben got his teddy bear and night cap snoozing away no doubt

[echo karma]

When they break the game with this bug filled update he won't sleep anymore cuz all the complaining on reddit and discord

Yall remeber that 15min chat cooldown? It's coming

[novel geyser]

play warthunder?

I get it.....

[echo karma]

Gun depression will break this game alone. The maps are all jank af. Not flat unless sitting in a field

[solar slate]

You have to add the historically accurate track depression feature to get around it

[covert elbow]

Everyone should play Battlefield V

[sick furnace]

The gun depression is in this game already

[worthy charm]

Thats a good one!

[echo karma]

Yea but its very slight. Not that noticeable unless you driving. Giving it a number and adding it to all tanks and tweaking for balance is gonna be bad. Plus there is 1 medium tank per faction. Not 10 variations, 1.

It's not warthunder. Adding useless stats to random things doesn't matter.

[sick furnace]

What? Gun depression variation is slight. At most you get about 10 degrees while the Soviets get 5. It does make a difference.

[echo karma]

Gunn falloff shouldn't be an issue at all. Maybe AP should matter but that's niche. There's no apfds rounds. There's no 5 man squads either. We all have autoloaders

[sick furnace]

Also, what? Yeah I guess it's always the better crew that wins and the first to shoot that wins. But at the end of the day, the smoothness of german suspension might have given you the edge on reaction time, or the angling on the t34 let you bounce an extra round. The different stats will matter if they change them no matter how you spin it. Even if slight

[sick furnace]

Again what? Have you seen how different the rounds already are in this game? Hitting the first shot is always crucial, making the falloff important. And what are you talking about with sabot rounds? Do you want sabot or 5 man crews? Just go play squad I guess? And what even is your auto loader comment? Do you want 10% of your team to sit inside a tank while they could be doing anything else? Also, how fun do you think loader gameplay would be, just look at arty.

[azure heath]

Hey @chatgpt give me a TL;DR

[echo karma]

Tldr add stats to tanks for no reason cuz nobody asked for this. But they never asked what we wanted so?

[covert elbow]

Summery: People are mad because tanks are getting more depth. And are saying how “this game is dying” because we are getting minor changes to a placeholder system

[echo karma]

It's not like we spam the discord all the time with cool tank ideas or tanks we'd like to see. Or the reddit has answer. Nooo. Never that

[faint portal]

TL;DR of what ppl want

[worthy charm]

I have asked for this, the rework is so cool.😭

[echo karma]

Stats is not depth. How can you expect someone to tinkier when most of them haven't even unlocked the repair torch?

[worthy charm]

We got a tank rework suggestion on this discord with 300+ comments

[faint portal]

repair torch not being default is the dumbest thing in the entire world.

[worthy charm]

There are more than enough people who wanted "better" tanks. Now the Tinkerer part is where the opinions may split.

[faint portal]

I specifically remember talking to the devs in the interview about that

[azure heath]

I like what they’re doing but I also think that it shouldn’t be set in stone. We should have input into it.

[echo karma]

It's been brought up since inception no? There's even old uh future stuff of spgs and tank destroyers etc.

[novel geyser]

Hll devs when they work on a highly requested rework just for one person to say "no one asked for this"

[sick furnace]

Are you blissfully unaware of how garbage the original code of the game is? Also even if it wasn't a spaghetti mess, they cannot "just add" your "cool" tank ideas, because this is game development and needs actual work put into it. Nevermind the whole idea of balance and fun when it comes to coding.

[worthy charm]

This basicly

[echo karma]

This I already know. The code is obviously bad. It runs like crap

[covert elbow]

Tinkerer is a bad move imo. I have out my thoughts in the PTE feedback if you want to know my thoughts

[covert elbow]

Naw. Comp players just got mad that they now have to think about tanking

[worthy charm]

Lets stay nice and respectful please!

[faint portal]

I will say, this has been addressed by craig specifically. He mentioned in one of my interviews with him that the team has been focused on taking that spaghetti code out and remaking it. His quote was something along the lines of "my wish is to put more power in the players hands and allowing server owners to customize their experience"

[covert elbow]

They’ve said how the variable movement conditions are bad because they’ll go like 5mph slower

[echo karma]

They don't have blow torches. How they tinkier things? Plus why not tc get the abilities. Without tc no squad.

[sick furnace]

Have you tried to make a group of 100 000 people agree on something? You can't. Especially on the Internet. This "what we wanted" is a myth that has been busted multiple times. Your add something veterans want, new players don't join. You add something new players need, the veterans leave. You add something "WE" want "THEY" leave.

[thin lotus]

whatever nuance the devs are trying to bring into Armor, there's still going to be a best option.
What they're doing is not enough

[worthy charm]

Im just saying, the generell direction of the comment could easily offend people.

[faint portal]

genuinely cannot be bothered to find the time stamp on it but here are the receipts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kXKZ9JVLdI

[worthy charm]

Bad service 0/5 stars

[faint portal]

hahaha ikk but i gatta call it out b/c i know i specifically asked about the spaghetti code
i just lived it i cant be bothered to find that time stamp hahaha

[echo karma]

I think It would be pretty easy to make a bot scan the discord for everything relevant and put it in database to read. An intern could probably make that too. Not to mention reddit posts already made. You know CM job stuff.

[sick furnace]

Ok what again? I just don't understand that at all

[worthy charm]

Craig didnt had a cam back then?😅

Damn, T17 budget was rough back then

[faint portal]

from what i recall he may have been on holiday hahahah

[echo karma]

Adding numbers to tanks is not the play. When can we get different explosion sounds and animations? Like what do yall do at work everyday? It takes you months to even tell us anything

[faint portal]

? that was in the dev brief tho...?

[sick furnace]

Ok so now you will read and do things according to people who are active on reddit, who are these people, they must be a specific group. Remember that most people aren't even PART of the discord server so they will not even read the announcement. The devs (any devs) have a difficult job to do, to avoid nerds who live off reddit and actually make a game for their actual player base. The people who come back from work, want to play a chill game of HLL, and at the end of the day, all they will say is "damn this new tinker thing is pretty cool"

[echo karma]

That dev brief was a joke. They got up there and said nothing about nothing. Clearly no leaders at all

[novel geyser]

Some animations like the ammo burning out or the turret flying off would be great, added variety from just the explosions we get now but it's not game changing

[worthy charm]

Now you are just overly negative man.

[echo karma]

I look at both the reddit and discord around the time of major updates and make my opinion based upon gameplay too.

[echo karma]

You think I'm bad go read the yt comments. Sheesh

[faint portal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwtN8zbfbX4 there was even a video addressing your explosions and animations

[novel geyser]

And I think I winge a lot

[sick furnace]

They did reveal new sfx for Explosions. They are working on the game and they are delivering. Things don't happen instantly, and the game will probably not die for a long time. It has been "dying" for years according to people, I guess this thing is on life support at this point right? The game will probably die at one point, but probably not for a while. Is it possible for you to enjoy it while it lasts?

[echo karma]

Still needa work. Still the same ish. I wanna see a turret ring pop off n blow 100 yards into the left or right

[worthy charm]

You may behave, but would you do that, you would get some kind of "punishment". I guess T17 doesnt bother about some random YT comments.

[azure heath]

there’s a reason i’ve had him blocked for months maybe even a year now

[sick furnace]

Then you do the work bro. Send the devs an email with your 3d animation and sound design that is better. But God forbid you read the "work in progress" in the corner.

[worthy charm]

Ey I can live with that, after all even Sam is on this discord.

[echo karma]

I imagine the code is bad already. 20 dudes made this game.

[worthy charm]

His Majesty the king on complainers. xD
-# im joking about sam

[sick furnace]

What again? I don't understand

[fervent dagger]

Game dev really is a passion industry isn’t it XD

[echo karma]

Game is priced at 50$ I expect a polished experience

[worthy charm]

Imagine

[worthy charm]

Now that I can agree with, its also 50€ for me and thats just a bit steap for a game full of placeholder.

[sick furnace]

Get 19 friends. Make it better. Or do you want them to earn more money to make a better game? Are you saying that because the manpower is low, the game is subpar. Then donate so it can be better.

[sick furnace]

How many hours do you have?

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-hoodie-emperor-all-of-them-gif-13950795

[sick furnace]

If it's above 100 it was worth the money bro

[worthy charm]

Im not a fun of judging games after how long you played them...

I got maybe 1k hours in lol and after that riot would need to give me money.

Im not sure how long I really played.

[echo karma]

About 1k ish but this year I've taken a huge break. I haven't played in months

[fervent dagger]

Best part is that some lol players would look at that and be like “only 1k? Rookie numbers”.

[azure heath]

Btw, Cassagi was a studio that Black Matter used for some art back in the day and they have the SPGs here: https://www.artstation.com/cassagi/albums/1076638

[worthy charm]

Ey sparta

[sick furnace]

That is 50 cents per hour of gaming

[worthy charm]

Wanna see something funny?

[sick furnace]

I would say that's worth

[echo karma]

I tried the desert map and it was camp fest and Uninstalled

[worthy charm]

My real lol playtime:

[faint portal]

Rookie numbers, gatta pump those up n00b

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-anime-omg-wtf-cant-unsee-gif-5159766

[sick furnace]

And still. You're here.

[worthy charm]

Still nothing against Sams 8k tho

[faint portal]

https://tenor.com/view/yu-gi-oh-dark-magician-finger-wave-no-no-no-spellcaster-gif-16422002

[echo karma]

Yes I like to complain when everyone is this is the best game on the earth. They didn't put out that trailer and outsource everything. T17 already made that bread back by now

[worthy charm]

Oh cmon 😂 😭

Dont be like this

[echo karma]

Mind you it's a crappy seeding game mode that nobody plays

Did you know the creator of dynamite was very pessimistic. He hated the fact it was later used for wars and bombs

Same can be said for the creator of the ak47

[faint portal]

who said that tho lol
i was legit bashing the armor changes earlier lol

[fervent dagger]

For reference, is it the heavy changes you are most concerned about?

[echo karma]

Many ppl say I complain in here which is valid. But my issues are never addressed. And I have basic issues like more communication, fix the game etc. Get a new official server browser. Basic stuff

[faint portal]

Heavy changes (i think it'll make the heavy meta WORSE and make games roll faster)
tinkerer'- will this make light tanks/med tanks TOOOOO good? no clue
Are the changes to traversal actually even good? Like i'm sick of the PZ IV driving like ass and getting stuck on EVERYTHING lol

Those are my high level concerns

[echo karma]

My point is there is a yin and yang with optimistic and pessimistic people. It is lazy to say I'm complaining and righting it off as nothing. I have valid issues with the game that no one listens to or cares for even.

[faint portal]

i'm 100% with you, i follow. I was just asking what issues you were referring to and you never mentioned what specific armor changes you were referencing so that's where i was confused.. lol

[echo karma]

Yeah we don't know anything other than test my game on Friday when the bf6 open beta is raging. Yeah sounds cool

[echo karma]

Mostly tank collision issues. Those are map specific no 1 bandaid fixes all. The recon tanks drive like as. Get stuck on everything. Medium tanks get 1 shot by heavy yet p4 is 75mil. Why can't it 1 shot 76 side pen? AT is too prevalent. Makes pushing anything impossible. No top mount gun on any tank, tc is mostly a dead seat. We have animations for getting down cuz halftracks. Also halftrack 50 cal should at least pen engine on tank no?

[sick furnace]

Tru

[worthy charm]

The dmg of the 50 cal. in general is a bad joke.

[echo karma]

Truth. But the recon is fast and mobile and should be played as such.

[worthy charm]

A kar with 7,92x57 can do one shot but a 50 cal. cant?

[echo karma]

The brit recon is literally a car lol

[worthy charm]

Russian recon be like:

[sick furnace]

They all are

[worthy charm]

I also sad they didnt add the driver mg on the soviet recon.

[faint portal]

Mostly tank collision issues. Those are map specific no 1 bandaid fixes all. - This they addressed specifically in dev brief how they are doing a pass on each and will rework this full thing

The recon tanks drive like as. Get stuck on everything.- dev brief said this as well how all tanks had a pass and will "Drive" better albeit is this to our level of quality... idk ill find out friday

Medium tanks get 1 shot by heavy yet p4 is 75mil. Why can't it 1 shot 76 side pen?- 100% agreed needs to be a mix of realism and approachability. they mentioned the pen values are changing so idk how that's going to work

AT is too prevalent. Makes pushing anything impossible.- also agreed, and there's no punishment for just redeploying as with a ticket system there is

No top mount gun on any tank, tc is mostly a dead seat.- agreed 100%

We have animations for getting down cuz halftracks. Also halftrack 50 cal should at least pen engine on tank no? - i feel the 50. cal should be more prevalant overall. why tf does 75 or 76 jumbo not have it or an emplacment

[worthy charm]

It could have been so unique. 🥲

[echo karma]

German puma is more tanky with the wheels. Mix between apc n tank. The cannon is what sets it apart

[sick furnace]

Puma is just as much a car as all the others. It just has more wheels. The caliber of the gun might be a bit larger but they are all the same

[worthy charm]

Its looks cooler tho.

yea im biased

I know

[sick furnace]

It does look kool

[worthy charm]

I still want a puma with a 20mm autocannon of the luchs

It would be so funny

Useless but funny

😅

Sparta gets automoded

:}

[echo karma]

My biggest will be tanks drivability. You see out of a tiny port basicly. No way to pop your hatch and see more bigger fov. Then you get stuck on everything bro. Tracked vehicles should not get stuck in trenches period. There is no mud, this is just bad map design. Tc stuff is just obvious, they have binoculars but who gets outta ya tank?

[echo karma]

Ironically adding different variants of already existing vehicles would be cool. And would freshen it up. Say just take the turret off a p4 etc.

Anti aircraft tanks too wild be cool.

[worthy charm]

True, there is even a puma variant with a big cannon

uff

[echo karma]

Wasn't the tiger modular like this? It's a big n small change but I reckon wouldn't be that hard to implement even if they did add specific damage models for each section of tank. We have, body turret engine and tracks now.

[worthy charm]

You mean this:

I mean this:

[echo karma]

My fav tank destroyer in wt

[worthy charm]

I took the link instead of the picture

With 75mm is it even bigger than the pak 40.

[echo karma]

AT needs addressed too already. Why bazooka 1 shot recon tank anywhere? So not fun

Obvious no amrour but cmon. At see you, your dead

[worthy charm]

Im pretty sure BM nerfed recon waaay back in early access. Once the recon could kill a heavy way faster than now.

Sadly I dont believe that gonna change now.

[echo karma]

A side pen makes logical sense. And recon being played well should reward you no? The camera has such a long cooldown most just use it as a tank destroyer. Yet spotter can spam flares with no cooldown

Guess we'll see on Friday. Hopefully recon tank is balanced in a way that it's way faster and mobile vs medium or heavy tank. So it's played in its role

[past vortex]

its the stummel, not for anti tank

[worthy charm]

Flares and the camera are just out of 2 diffrent eras of the game... I can agree they could the recon camera.

[echo karma]

The vehicles are truly slow imo. Like abysmally slow. Didn't jeeps go 50mph?

[worthy charm]

I know but it still makes boom and im sure it would be able to kill at least light tanks

https://tenor.com/view/k-pop-korean-peasants-looking-down-eww-gif-3576842

And you play Warthunder?

huh?

[past vortex]

it has about 5cm pen
8 with heat but thats uncommon

[worthy charm]

Dont ruin my fun

But I guess this as a little howitzer would be cool... 😒

EYY😂

The Panzerwerfer 42 is beautiful and should be added, especially now that they do SPAs anyway.

There were like 12 of them in existence, a Pershing is more realistic than that.

ANYWAY im going now! Dont be naughy!

[slate canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-tag-me-in-wwe-raw-wrestling-gif-15987504

[worthy charm]

@slate canopy Ban him for me please

[covert elbow]

You could tag me in instead and make me a mod

[slate canopy]

Call? Hear Herr over voice? It's been forever..... 😮‍💨

[worthy charm]

😅 oha

You dont need to hear my bad german accent

[slate canopy]

Sorry... but he told me to...

[slate canopy]

Nah, It'd be fine.

But go rest up 🙂

Chill, you're safe.... for now.

Instead, your punishment will be listening to kpop for an hour. 😈 /s

[boreal temple]

oh nice. i can complain to her about another game she manages.

[slate canopy]

Curious what your sister makes you listen to... because mine is ALLL over lol

I'm gonna guess BTS... Stray Kids... Ateez... Blackpink... Twice lol

[misty chasm]

Hey! new to the discord just wanted to say hi!

[slate canopy]

Welcome

[misty chasm]

thank you

[faint portal]

howdy

[echo karma]

Run while you still can

[misty chasm]

you say that but ive been playing HLL for about a year my time to run has passed 😆

[echo karma]

We don't bring up Justin bieber or shall I say.... Jolene, Jolene joooooooleeneeee

[slate canopy]

Don't care for JB. 🤷‍♀️

[echo karma]

I personally destroy that CD back in the day. Every day Jolene bro. I still cringe

[obtuse dragon]

then crawl while you still can 😭

[misty chasm]

i'll run and crawl but unfortunately ill just get gunned down by Jerry anyhow

amazing game

unfortunately you and me both

the issue with this game is its the worst game ever but if you play it then you recognize that its the best ever and are unwilling to admit that its bad therefore...its the amazing

nobody i play with regularly likes this game but everyone who isn't new that i play with loves it 😂

fair enough

[wind shore]

I lowk have no idea what’s happening

Completely out of the loop

[covert elbow]

That’s probably a good thing

[untold matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/burnt-peanut-the-burnt-peanut-gif-8046513384392923794

[misty chasm]

likely

[misty chasm]

anyone for match?

[slate canopy]

You may have better luck in #console-looking-for-unit

[misty chasm]

thanks m8

[swift nacelle]

I had to scroll a long a**ed ways to find who tagged me. Haha! What am I saying yes to? It's a hard convo to follow.

[faint portal]

Does it matter 🤣

[swift nacelle]

I try to show 99% of the things I say on screen so it's not so much what I "say" vs what I "show" but someday I might do that.....sounds fun. Hahaha

[neat garnet]

Enemy airhead bottom of c6

[cold bridge]

do the devs ever stream themselves playing?

I would pay good money to watch them run a tank crew on purple heart lane at night

[empty steppe]

Quick tip: Driving directly into a canal with the commanders new half track will teleport you behind enemy lines!

Quick tip: Throwing grenades into groups of spawning friendly troops gives speed and mobility boost to everyone within the area!

[brittle laurel]

damn the Dev brief got my hypeeeeed, artillery rework and tank rework confirmed? and tank collision so i dont get stuck every 5 seconds????

ew what the hell?

[gloomy crown]

And you are able to pick up your supplies again, ive been waiting for this since early access. may not sound like much but if you play lots of support that is a big QOL change 🙂

[brittle laurel]

Agreed. If they just did a QOL update and addressed things like that I would play a lot more. This game is how many years old? Still feels janky in oh so many ways

[finite berry]

Of course it had one.

[gloomy crown]

Due to the switch from Blackmatter to T17 the game essentially lacks a year of development time, because the new devs had to get used to the code, rewrite big parts of it etc., basically somewhere they stated that black matter essentially used spaghetthi code and they first had to clean up that mess to start bugfixing and creating new content, don't know if it that's true, but looking at first updates from T17 they were a bit ... janky

[faint depot]

Modifications of tanks could be instead of tinkerer.

[analog apex]

And they should be modular - there shouldn't be one 3D asset/file of a tank as a whole, but just its base that could be upgraded without needing a separate whole "tank" asset for each of its visual variation.

[faint depot]

Panzer 4 with short barrel.

[thin scarab]

Will be Intresting to See what Players think after the PTE this Weekend

[faint depot]

After PTE only.

[analog apex]

It's possible the tank changes are not in this PTE - only the Stalingrad refresh and picking up one's boxes.

The thing is, that the tanks are not mentioned in the PTE feedback form at all.

[thin scarab]

I tought they will be in this one.

[analog apex]

So did I...

We'll see... maybe they just forgot to add the tank section into the PTE feedback form... @fluid pawn could you pls. shine some light into this? In short - will the tank changes be a part of this PTE or not? If yes, the PTE feedback form will need to be updated.

https://forms.office.com/pages/responsepage.aspx?id=dzO7_29vdE2wkFIXThwvGavPYX8LIbRMtn3WncW9OkpURVlWRTM3R1I1SDdHVklKT1dJNTg2Q0VWMC4u&route=shorturl

[topaz lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-imout-later-fail-gif-5104859

one day pleaseeeeeeeeeee 😭

[analog apex]

Not in HLL(1) for sure. Even if, wouldn't look good because the maps are too small - the large areas outside bounds would need to get some sufficient detail so the landscape on the horizon looks faithful... also with other Villages etc.

[fluid pawn]

I've just checked and only the following will be in the PTE:

• Balance pass of all tanks including new speeds, turret rotations, etc.
• Updated physics on the medium tanks
• Some of the audio improvements
  The rest will come with U18 🫡

[analog apex]

Thanks man, then the feedback form is just incomplete. 👍

So great to have the EXPLORE mode... will try it out even if the servers wouldn't be online anymore when I get back 🙂 .

[night surge]

Hello all! Is the game just really empty at this time?

[thin scarab]

Could be Because the BF6 Beta just started today..

[night surge]

AH

[silk igloo]

son, when i was young, we had one quarter of the players you have right now and we didnt call it empty

[night surge]

I joined a warfare an there was 1 other person there.

[silk igloo]

console?

[gentle lintel]

Ok boomer

[silk igloo]

this is unacceptable behaviour, i demand to see your manager

i'd rather bully drew

[night surge]

Crossplays on but true

[silk igloo]

You have a server browser nowadays right? Try that

[night surge]

What

[silk igloo]

What? Didn't consoles get server browser a year or two ago?

[night surge]

Oh yeahh true

I thought the elder was saying "open it in Microsoft edge on your console"

[silk igloo]

ahhh i got a nickname now, i like it

[finite berry]

"Oh, it's mod abuse? What are you gonna do, tell the mods?"

[night surge]

Geriatric was my first choice

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/travis-neil-primrose-ba-dum-tss-ba-dum-ba-dum-tss-meme-gif-27530709

[worthy charm]

Thats a fitting reactions after the 1000 or more pings you got. 😂

[fluid pawn]

Will have to wait until Monday I'm afraid. I leave everything that needs to be done to @worthy charm in my absence

[worthy charm]

Ahh damn

Now I need to work

-# Switches to AFK mode

-# hihihi

[grand jungle]

it has been 2 year and they still havent brought back the hades sherman

[silk igloo]

if they open up the system, they might bring it back as a medium with a heavy gun. it didn't make sense as it was, with the model being that of a 76mm but titled 75mm in game after it was changed

[grand jungle]

it would be a nice change of past cause the jumbo has nice armour but cant pen much while the germans have both good armour and gun( i think at least i havent played for like 7 months)

[jade yarrow]

Did they change the sound design??

Because holy **** i am scared of grenades and bullets

This is crazy it feels much more immersive

And suddenly you can bleed out from not healing?

And everything sounds louder

[jade yarrow]

But I didn't change anything in my setting

[ancient crypt]

we need the panzerfaust (s) in hell let loose

would be a fire addition

[analog apex]

and fine too 😄

[ancient crypt]

we need finland in the game too 🙏

they were supposed to drop the update in 2023

been waiting for years (literally)

[analog apex]

Since I believe they mentioned the Finnish just in connection to smaller-scaled maps, the game doesn't need such. If they would get normal full-HLL-sized maps and several ones... OK. But let's not forget we have the Soviets and British that are already existing factions and those are the ones that need many new maps yet, first.

Finnish is not any major faction and its usage would be rly limited. I wouldn't mind if they would have scratched its plan away.

Some people may want it, but the game doesn't need it.

[silk igloo]

major enough to have lots of finnaboos, including the devs, ponder about it

finland stronk

[pine ember]

FINLAND!!!🇫🇮

[gentle lintel]

scream if you love finland

[ancient crypt]

🗣️ 🗣️

[jade yarrow]

We need a close combat map

Like berlin

[faint depot]

What’s about tinkerer role, if they can add new tanks & vehicles instead of this.

[analog apex]

No idea, they could have gone very differently about the topic and more logically, less gamey.

But the rest of the planned armoured changes are nice.

[pine ember]

It will come as one of the last maps

[pine ember]

It’s a good idea in theory, and we will get new vehicles anyways

[faint depot]

The rest is well done, agree. Also SPA.

[pine ember]

It will spice things up rather than just have new vehicles which won’t be used that much

[analog apex]

SPGs are nice, but mortars are needed... and removal of fixed arty guns out of the maps so recon squads will not be forced to spawnCamp anymore

[pine ember]

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-gif-gif-13236175684798649698

Finland!!!🇫🇮

[silk igloo]

Some of the tinkering sounds rather silly, like altering turret turn speeds, but wouldnt it technically be possible in the field? Idk about hydraulics or how they were powered, but manual tuning of engines is a thing right?

[analog apex]

possible, but shouldn't be allowed anywhere else than in HQ at the rearm station and only if not in combat

[faint depot]

Good idea in theory, if you can choose between mobility / armour protection. If you want mobility and less armour protection and better gun - you picking up Marder II, if you want more armour and firearms, you picking up Panzerjäger 1. If you want tank destroyers - StuG. If you want be more powerful than heavy tank, you pick up ISU-150 or SU-152, with less mobility, and big gun which would help you to outsmart and destroy enemy tank.

And not getting the same tank Panzer IV with out modifications like short barrel and different model like G, A, possibly would be no visual effect in tinkerer. And it doesn’t change the model of the tank.

[pine ember]

You would have to call in a different tank each time, that wouldn’t work. Also many of these tanks you mentioned would be inaccurate on many maps

[silk igloo]

Yeah, I can see it become rather silly if a slower tank takes cover behind a haybale that the enemy is watching, and then it yeets out of cover with the extra acceleration provided by some fast tinkering

[pine ember]

Tinkerer is finally something new

[faint depot]

It would be weird, when the same tanks on the battlefield would run very different to each other.

[silk igloo]

H-he's fast!

[analog apex]

But I guess the best system would be if if was made with a request/approval system and only when spawning the vehicle - a tank CMD requests something, the team CMD receives the info message the he either accepts (which will spawn the requested vehicle with requested composition on the requested HQ) or declines it.

[faint depot]

Requesting different vehicles - that would be nice!

[pine ember]

It depends, but remember crews made many modifications in the field

[faint depot]

Source?

[pine ember]

These won’t be used much I think, most would just call in the normal tanks

[wintry thistle]

casting my extra armor spell on my Panzer IV

[silk igloo]

Eh, that would clutter the comms more than necessary and burden the commander, and they'd have to rework the commander UI for that too. Although I've wanted it for years. It'd be nice if vehicles had a drop-down box the commander could choose variants from

[wintry thistle]

Some tanks turret traverse is dependent on the engines RPM

[pine ember]

Just read combat reports of tank crews.
If eg extra armor comes with sandbags, logs,… that would be accurate

[static tapir]

hello

[silk igloo]

Ah, I figured there's a way. And increasing the RPM over standards was also possible, yes?

[faint depot]

It is not accurate to have sandbags on T-34 or BA-64.

[static tapir]

how can I get the tag?

[wintry thistle]

It was probably advised to not overclock the engine. If that was even possible

You can push it to it's limits but anything beyond that is risky

[pine ember]

More accurate to call in 50 different vehicles per match…

[wintry thistle]

I know of tankers pushing the RPM beyond the advised limit, but they were still pushing it in the range of feasibility of the engine

[hallow shard]

You can really see the disconnect in the player base in the game. You have a portion talking about realism and arguing about history, trying to drag the game into something that closure reflects squad (generalisation here)

While many other just silently want LOD, running issues sorted lol

[static tapir]

nvm

[silk igloo]

So they really should make it a My Summer Car experience and open the skill of tankers to a whole new level is what you're saying

[wintry thistle]

That'd would be awesome

[faint depot]

And of course, some metal grid or wood would help you to protect from Panthers tank shells. Is it accurate?
Different vehicles of course would have different specifics, and would be accurate. Maybe not 50. But at least a few unique vehicles for 1 faction. If they don’t have enough time - add it step by step. For each faction, or 2 factions in 1 new update. Developers had 1 year . Yes, we getting SPA, that’s great. Also mobility vehicles it’s about tank destroyers - less armour + big gun.
More armour - Hummel and SU-152.

[silk igloo]

Hello commander, can I have a medium tank? Pile of unassembled parts drops from the sky

[pine ember]

Tinkerer is something really new, but I think if done right it will be awesome and loved by the community

[faint depot]

SPA is something really new. Tinkerer it’s just invisible thing which we would never see and ever distinguish which tank in front of us on the battlefield.

[pine ember]

It is accurate. We are getting new vehicles, so I don’t know what you want…

[pine ember]

Not really, once people figure out how it works they will be able to distinguish

[silk igloo]

I got a feeling that they will make Panzer IVs a bit vulnerable from the side to anti-tank rifles, like they were, and adding side skirts would bring it back to the current level.

[faint depot]

Tinkerer is barely accurate for the game. Or you want BA-64 with sandbags which is still winning on its mobility, would win and don’t get any damage from Panthers shell.

[pine ember]

I don’t think that’s how it would work. It is accurate if done correctly, even more so than calling in a different vehicle each time you need it

[faint depot]

It is no problem with calling different vehicles each time.

[pine ember]

It is

Ever thought of fuel cost, vehicle limit and historical accuracy?

[silk igloo]

then the commander would see all the possible variants and the tank pool on his screen would quintuple in size

[pine ember]

There are countless arguments against it

[faint depot]

We also can get extra armour for soldier. And he would lose his mobility. Just call it “extra-additional armour”, and your soldier wouldn’t die like others from 1 shot.

[silk igloo]

and if commander had to pick the mods each time, it'd be like working at mcdonalds... can i have a T-34 with overclocked engine, shrapnel shells and cement armor on the front?

every time someone asks for a tank

[pine ember]

We are talking about tanks, not soldiers…

[faint depot]

Who cares if tanks would get just a few stats in code, which wouldn’t be visible and instead of getting new vehicles together with new content, we getting changed line in code. Sounds awful. Other stuff like traversing & SPA sounds good.

[worthy charm]

I never understood why every game after warzone needed armor platings

[gentle lintel]

making me hungry

[silk igloo]

i think i made myself hungry too, damn

[pine ember]

Just new vehicles won’t bring much. Tinkering will if done correctly

[faint depot]

If they adding new vehicles to current assets - nice!
Not only Hummel and Hellcat.
StuG III as SPA. And other SPG vehicles like, SU-152. That would be new.
But if it’s only about changing a few numbers in code - changing current tank stats. It shouldn’t take 6-8 months of development.

6-8 months, you would make 4 assets for 4 factions. Or if maximise your time and concentration - 8 vehicles for 4 factions. And it would works nice 👍🏻 with new armour system.

Tinkering - is awful feature.

[pine ember]

Do you know how much they had to work for that? Your talking like you know it isn’t a big deal

[pine ember]

Have you tried it or how do you know that it will be bad?

[faint depot]

They did much work, no doubt. But tinkering - again, it is not good idea.

[pine ember]

I don’t think so, I can’t see your reasons why

[faint depot]

New vehicles would work with new armour system.

It is better than tinker.

[analog apex]

yep, since mo more tier I II and III anymore

[pine ember]

Yea, but no

[silk igloo]

We've barely any details yet. The devbrief made it seem like they're nudging the balance closer to something like warthunder. Who knows, maybe one-hit kills wont be a thing anymore, maybe reload speed wont matter as much as it has in the past

[pine ember]

Just try it before complain about it

[faint depot]

Getting fast tank destroyer, which would win heavy tank in a few minutes, and take lack of commander resources. So why heavies were limited, was no better idea, than add tinkering. It could not work against heavy tanks still.

[pine ember]

?

It works better than calling in a different vehicle each five minutes

[faint depot]

Do you know that current tanks are not accurate for most of maps?

[pine ember]

Not really, there are some but overall they fit the timeframe mostly

And those inaccuracies are no reason to add more

Panzerjäger I or Marder in Normandy as an example

StuGs also were rare in the west

[faint depot]

Who was talking about western front?

It was done correctly for Normandy maps, but still. 4+ years last since game has been released.
All those vehicles were supposed to be only in Normandy.
Do you know that in Hell let Loose we have not only western front, we have Africa, and we have eastern front.

[gentle lintel]

scream if you love finland western front

sorry, had to

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/gritito-gif-17274376822241272426

Only to spite Sparta

xD

[pine ember]

I know

[pine ember]

*was

[faint depot]

So. How it could be accurate?

[pine ember]

It won’t be accurate for Most of the map since those are Western front 1944-45

[faint depot]

Marder II for Africa would be accurate, instead of Luchs.

[faint depot]

Keep western front with current vehicles. It would work and pay more attention to other maps, if they will get new vehicles.
And some vehicles would be accurate for 3 fronts.

[pine ember]

Panzer II would be better

[faint depot]

Nobody is going to add Panzer II.

[pine ember]

I agree to more accurate vehicles. But tinkering still would be a good Addition of done correctly

[pine ember]

It would fit better than the Marder as a Luchs replacement…

[faint depot]

We’re getting SPA. But no information about new vehicles / tanks.

[pine ember]

Because we won’t get them in the next updates

[faint depot]

New SPA is possibly that it would be StuG III Ausf. A B. It was more common vehicles for German side and used almost everywhere.

[worthy charm]

You are still here?

polarbearr didnt do her job... 😒
xD

[echo karma]

Ben, can you tell Billy Bob thorten to push the update sooner. I'm board

[pine ember]

In the time where the Game is set it isn’t common, it was old at that time and replaced. Ausf. A wasn’t even produced in a Series

Hummel or Grille would be better

[worthy charm]

Open top models would be also cooler in my opinion, beause recon can still counter them.

[faint depot]

Hummel in 1 camouflage pattern, riding across all maps. And with the same number. It wouldn’t be bad, but to Hummel, would be nice to see Grille together with Hummel. 2 vehicles.

Open top vehicles. And more vehicles would be better than tinkering. Closed.

[pine ember]

I don’t think we will get two

[pine ember]

No.

[worthy charm]

The tinkering part is something they should take all feedback the can get.

My biggest fear is that i wont the situational, but always just one option thats the best choice for every chase.

I imagine the feature will be difficult to balance.

[faint depot]

And shells should be visible as tank shells. Not just the current artillery system with timing.

Or tinkering together with new vehicles, or keep it realistic tinkering. Where it’s possible to place sandbags - Sherman. It would be possible. Sideskirts for Pz.4. That’s all.

Current artillery meta bypassing the normal system.

[pine ember]

You dont even know how the tinkering will look…

[faint depot]

Other tanks shouldn’t get anything like if they hadn’t. Were no sandbags on early models of BA-64. It wouldn’t work like this. Tinkering should be for certain tanks. And that’s possible that any of sides would miss the certain detail of tinkering, cause it would be at least not historically accurate.

[worthy charm]

Thats highly doubtfull, im pretty sure they just took and arty gun as it is now and made a tank out of it. Reworking the whole system to make the projectile visible in the air is to much work for way to little in return.

[faint depot]

You call it rework? And possibly that it would be current assets which was made earlier.

[pine ember]

That’s called gameplay alterations. BA64 won’t be used that much. Tinkering will only be for higher loadouts. It is way more accurate and better for gameplay than just a few new tanks

It discourages solo tanks

[worthy charm]

I assume you mean the older models we got to see in 2018?

[faint depot]

6-8 months for just replacing artillery asset for new SPG vehicle. 👏 👏👏

[worthy charm]

There is no way for use to know if they even got the old models.

[faint depot]

Yes, if we won’t get anything new. To current ones.

[worthy charm]

Which current ones, did they share any new models im not aware of?

[pine ember]

This game requires patience

[faint depot]

Models of Hummel / Hellcat. From 2017-2018.

[pine ember]

And fun fact, atleast for the Us it seems like they get a completely new vehicle

[pine ember]

Hellcat isn’t a SPA piece…

[faint depot]

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/XZPrl

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/w8qXYZ

[worthy charm]

Again, those are very old and we dont even know if they still have them.

The old maps are long gone too

[gritty sparrow]

@worthy charm wdm i m late?)
I've been waiting for this for years.

[faint depot]

Those vehicles looks nice to be added. But if we won’t get new addition to the current ones, it would be lazy. But I doubt that we would get only old assets. If no - it is very lazy.

[worthy charm]

There was hell in here yesterday 😅
Some people didnt like the rework as much and even said "nobody asked for this".
Even tho we asked for a rework like this for years... 🥲

[pine ember]

We don’t even know if they still have these assets…

[worthy charm]

Many also couldnt agree on the tinkerer part, but we will see how that works out

[faint depot]

I know, but at all - new SPA is great addition, except tinkering and really rework of artillery systems. The shell should be visible for SPG.

It is called rework - if the artillery meta would be reworked. If it would taken from current arty - it wouldn’t be rework either.

Cause current arty system is done with a lot of mistakes from previous developers.

[worthy charm]

The shell should be visible for SPG.
Thats still not going to happen, no way they reworked the entire game just so you could see projectiles. Its not even something that is worth the work, because its more a "funny" gimmick than a real feature.

[gritty sparrow]

It seems like these are new players who haven't played the game at all)

The tanks didn't have any content at release, right?
And they say it's not necessary.

[faint depot]

So it is not rework of system then. Just call it - replacing artillery with SPGs. Rework is so loud for this.
But we don’t know currently what will happen, tomorrow we will see.

[worthy charm]

We got a minor rework with U10, but that was mostly Driver releated. U18 will be the by far biggest tank update, since they added the first tanks.

Im hyped for sure

[faint depot]

But everything is great, except this small things that should be fixed. Like arty. Not bad at all.
Tinkering & Rework current artillery systems with shell visibility. That is all. And new vehicles, except new SPA.

[gritty sparrow]

fully support

[worthy charm]

If you look how they "reworked" medic, you sure could say this is a rework.

[echo karma]

Ben, if your here type 1 in chat

[faint depot]

Medic was great with out any reworks.

[worthy charm]

#mess-hall message

[echo karma]

Medic is trash

[pine ember]

Medic still isn’t worth playing

[echo karma]

Wombat was acceptable but medic still trash

[slate canopy]

Let people play what they want 😅 it ain't that serious

[echo karma]

You want to run around with a pistol in world full of automatics and dmrs?

[faint depot]

Reworking artillery please. Add new vehicles / new content. That’s all.

[worthy charm]

But we need to follow tHe mEtA!

xD

[echo karma]

Pistol would be good if 45 apc could one shot. But nopoo that's to hard

[finite berry]

Add tickets :D

[faint depot]

P.S. Why I said about visibility of SPA shells. For example StuG III irl and in games like War Thunder could turn down his barrel and shoot tanks as tank destroyer.

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/berg-ankit-kick-out-throw-out-get-out-of-here-gif-20129402

[topaz lodge]

first thing the medic has semi-automatic and bolt action rifles + the pistol, with the medic today we resisted many enemy attacks winning the game

[jade yarrow]

Really?

[faint depot]

This would be useful! If my SPA vehicle would see enemy tank, I would be able deal with it.

[worthy charm]

They said so in their qna, take a look if you want #1369174494631166042

[faint depot]

If it has no shell, I wouldn’t be able to destroy enemy tank.

[pine ember]

Reworks is what is needed

[pine ember]

The devs said if it will come it will be one of the last

[faint depot]

Direct use of its shell - that is why rework needed.

[slate canopy]

Screw the meta...if I wanna be an annoying moth Mercy I will be 😈

[pine ember]

Hummel > StuG

[faint depot]

Also trajectory of shells. It would be masters of artillery, who would fix the things with out any help. And shoot artillery with out any apps/help.

Would be like skill.

https://tenor.com/view/doge-difference-in-skill-meme-dog-gif-22631267

[worthy charm]

There is no real trajectory with SPAs being used like mobile mortars...

but the trajectory is already some kind of dark magic so its fine i guess

[faint depot]

It was trajectory irl.

[young galleon]

You have no skill based upon your posts

[faint depot]

https://tenor.com/view/ww2-panzerwerfer42-gif-20659002

Or Nebelwerfers as Commander ability.

[worthy charm]

Please remain respectful

[night lark]

SPGs are meant to shoot 10-15km. Not 600m lol. Mobile mortar vehicles would be look a little less insane imo

[young galleon]

Can’t handle the truth eh

[night lark]

Pretty sure most nations had some form of mobile mortar

[faint depot]

I know. Rework the trajectory.

[night lark]

Would still look a bit weird imo

[worthy charm]

Not sure what kind of trajectory you got in mind, thats not like this works...

Not with SPAs

[faint depot]

And if you want to turn it into tank destroyer - it should works like this. Or how even SPA would deal with the enemy tanks?

[faint depot]

Shells going directly on trajectory.

[night lark]

Self propelled artillery is not also not a tank destroyer. Stug IIIs are not artillery

[worthy charm]

Germany had the 38-cm-Sturmmörser.

[night lark]

Like 20 of them? Not one of them was the same as the others. All hand built and finished

[worthy charm]

It has mortar in its name, SO ADD IT ALREADY!!

[young galleon]

Please be respectful

[pine ember]

The artillery version of the StuG wasn’t used that much as an anti tank weapon

[worthy charm]

After a long and tiresome Wiki search I believe they made 18.

[pine ember]

In its early version they were meant as direct and mobile artillery, kinda like the British infantry tank

[night lark]

The 50mm low velocity gun armed one?

[faint depot]

https://youtu.be/uffyc8iqaPk?si=OM_YxUbWHGC5PeBx

[jade yarrow]

Will they stop making maps?

[pine ember]

Yep, it was a 75mm but still

[pine ember]

StuG III A wasn’t even a real production model…

[worthy charm]

Nooo, but because Berlin is at the end of the war, they also will do it in late development.

[pine ember]

Hopefully since the game needs a big rework

[young galleon]

Please be respectful

[worthy charm]

If we ever get Berlin its most likely one of the last maps

[faint depot]

Berlin was not end of the war, how about Pacific until September 1945?

Pacific should come after Berlin.

[night lark]

Yeah that i can believe being used as IDF or DF support. Just when someone starts referring to the 75mm StuK L/48 gun armed ones as artillery its like noooooo

[jade yarrow]

Ohhh yeah now I get it

[night lark]

Pacific mentioned

[pine ember]

Why always Pacific???

[worthy charm]

It wasnt?

Ok...

All my history lessons were a lie then

[jade yarrow]

Pacific doesn't sound that exciting as a map

[pine ember]

People can’t even differentiate between the different versions and the ways it was used

[tall kettle]

https://i.imgur.com/oqjthtn.png

[faint depot]

Japan fall after summer of 1945.

[pine ember]

Finland > Pacific

[jade yarrow]

A Japan map with those blossom trees would look great

[faint depot]

And pink camouflage.

Which would work in blossom 🌸 trees. And pink tank camouflages also. For Americans and Japanese forces.

[pine ember]

Please more North Africa maps

[night lark]

Pink was used in north africa by the british

[pine ember]

North Africa mentioned

[topaz lodge]

and second faction in africa front

[faint depot]

Please, no more North Africa maps. Better Western African maps.

[pine ember]

What?

[worthy charm]

#1369177126279839827 message Those were the exact words on the matter.

[jade yarrow]

Thanks

[silk igloo]

we've had one town map and one fantasy map, so we're still at 0 north africa (flat) maps

[pine ember]

Kasserine pass would be cool

[faint depot]

So, then! Anyways this is very nice that we getting updates! It is nice armour rework with new vehicles like SPA. Everything is great!

[pine ember]

North Africa is the best front

[faint depot]

No, Normandy is the best front.

[pine ember]

Not in my opinion

Its just repetitive

[silk igloo]

they could make a realistic north africa map in a day. there's nothing in it

[worthy charm]

T17 and Expression Games introduce the New Map!: THE SAHARA
Look here for top secret leaked footage of the new map:

[faint depot]

And mirage.

[night lark]

Two lines of trench separated by low, rocky, and undulating ground

[silk igloo]

the real alamein was more flat than that though. gimme a sec

[finite berry]

I want battle of Hiroshima. Japan gets unlimited troops and one objective to defend, US get one very specific commander call-in 👀

[night lark]

Thatd be one for OWI

[faint depot]

Mirage - is visual effect, appear on North African maps. You see different new vehicles, but when you come closer you release that it was PNG. Nothing more.

[silk igloo]

https://www.google.com/maps/place/El-Alamein,+Al+Alameen+City,+El+Alamein,+Marsa+Matrouh+Governorate+5060335,+Egypt/@30.8978933,28.3822367,3a,90y,266.6h,85.98t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sCIHM0ogKEICAgIDqgpvLDQ!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh3.googleusercontent.com%2Fgpms-cs-s%2FAB8u6Hb-JQgfQaby4tjkAvqEEzLBYUDLxpOcJzpDs8UOQvjRI-1rMSTjMtbMs5WzTFIwyG6pAY9iER3ICuBSZlstuXpeolYc2ZsUrJi8AYWkvOEqaC-M-4itj2IZck8suVWYcTwemzg%3Dw900-h600-k-no-pi4.018612913037487-ya198.60113460792968-ro0-fo100!7i6144!8i3072!4m6!3m5!1s0x145fedd59fffb53d:0xfddb4be6055bffa9!8m2!3d30.82247!4d28.954309!16zL20vMGZ0NDA?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDgxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

[worthy charm]

Im sure you get it if offworld still has some money left. :}

[worthy charm]

That would have been the best map in the game...

Sad to see what we missed out on

[silk igloo]

actually those sahara dunes would make for a very playable map, it's just a series of trenches that a tank can hide in

[worthy charm]

Imagine a Map event thats changed the entire map in a minute.

[faint portal]

"asymmetrical gameplay"

[gentle lintel]

REDACTED

[silk igloo]

dynamic dust storm. cant drive out of base, wall of sand. tanks got buried in sand. at least we got shovels

[gentle lintel]

Im telling Ben

[worthy charm]

But but...

#mess-hall message

[young galleon]

Sand storms lag your console into oblivion

[worthy charm]

I was allowed to

[heady hornet]

I think Pacific is the best front. They should add that.

[young galleon]

I think tanks should be balanced as they always have been aswell

[faint portal]

Would love to see it, but I'm scared of hill 400 vibes & or terrible LODs

[young galleon]

Only good thing in the recent update is picking up boxes. You people are trying to hard with this tank stuff. How about fixing in game mechanics first before you bet the farm on a tank update nobody wants.

[broken sable]

Any milsim unit looking for recruits to enjoy some rp session?

Playing on epic games, region africa

[gilded coral]

I just installed the game as a newbie and spent more time in the deployment screen than in the frontline for 3 games straight. Can anyone help me get good?

[echo karma]

Is Ben gonna say hi? Kinda rude no

[gentle lintel]

He's sipping a margarita on a beach somewhere (kidding, but he's off at the moment)

[echo karma]

I want a comp rules match. Devs vs community. We win, you fix something we been begging for for years. You win, we buy an mtx nobody cares about

[young galleon]

Devs just sit here and get feedback to change a game that isn’t broken

Oh yeah please be respectful of my opinion.

[cyan saddle]

Respectfully you're wrong 🔥

[silk igloo]

lead dev abu tells it how it is

[broken shoal]

Respectfully we need guadalcanal

[thin lotus]

Watch this space.
Never say never, even.

Lmao at hll

[silk igloo]

we havent had devs talk here in years, i think the bright yellow names are to blame for the confusion

[broken sable]

And darker skin for africs front
Sun hitted hard on the battlefield
Soldiers got sun bath
Yet they are brighting white, quite breaks my inmersion tbh

Maybe also some dlc costumes too there are too little uniforms for africa

[midnight nacelle]

🤠

[broken sable]

Specially for the british.

[young galleon]

This upcoming update is a disaster nobody asked for. Please keep the game simple and standard. This tank stuff opens the door to the end of this game as we know it.

[broken sable]

@faint depot And his goblin army will tell you how wrong ure

[young galleon]

Yeah and continue to ban me from this server

[broken sable]

Embrace the process, adapt, create new style, [map control], communication.

Was feeling like airaparent sorry

[young galleon]

There’s more to fix than the tanks. The tanks are a part of this game that is perfected

[broken sable]

Well thats your problem marine!

[young galleon]

I’m gonna be a good boy and debate this update in good faith

Nobody wants it. Stop

[broken sable]

If you dont agree with someone just flood his post with 8 accs like they do

Get one banned still 7 remain. Profit

In 5 minutes here i can already tell some of those

[young galleon]

Tank tinkerer is a bad idea. Do not do it.

You any good with a tank Sparta?

Tanks are perfect right now. No changes required

Please be respectful of my opinions.

[broken sable]

@cedar ore @covert elbow @novel geyser @pine ember @faint depot @worthy charm all of this are big trolls

Suggest to mute them bluemontain marine

[novel geyser]

?

[cedar ore]

what 💔

[cyan saddle]

@worthy charm ur thrown under the bus again 🫵

[worthy charm]

After yesterday im used to it...

[worthy charm]

Do me the favor and not ping me randomly. For a second I thought it was something important.

[pine ember]

We asked for it

[young galleon]

I joined because this update is a bad idea

https://tenor.com/view/new-coke-bill-cosby-best-ever-coca-cola-80s-gif-16181284

It’s a bad idea. Don’t fix something that isn’t broken

[finite berry]

Tanks aren't just broken, they are barebones

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-gonna-make-us-all-listen-to-it-again-stan-marsh-south-park-s16e6-i-should-have-never-gone-ziplining-gif-23121314

[young galleon]

Yes practice. They are like that for balance

[covert elbow]

Who are you?

[finite berry]

Why am I not on that list :(

[young galleon]

We don’t want this update. You guys are the beginning of the end pushing it

[covert elbow]

Actually. I honestly don’t care

[finite berry]

Funny, every time you say "we", you mean "I".

[gentle lintel]

HLL Bot has gone sentient

[young galleon]

I’m part of a large community who plays regularly. Nobody wants it

[covert elbow]

Cry harder comp player. We’re finally getting a more intuitive system to an archaic and empty system. What’s not to be happy about

[knotty aspen]

@fluid pawn ,any news about the console PTEs?

[worthy charm]

You are still repeating yourself.

[finite berry]

Tell me you're a comp player without telling me you're a comp player

[covert elbow]

Let me guess. You all have thousands of hours in game with dozens of comp games under your belt and have been playing cod 5 years. Am I wrong?

[finite berry]

Console doesn't get PTE, I think

[young galleon]

I’ve been playing cod for 20 years

[covert elbow]

I swear not one person who has said that actually has those hours

[finite berry]

well well well 😄

[covert elbow]

Then go back to cod

We don’t want you here

[broken sable]

++

[worthy charm]

Please stay nice and respectful.

[knotty aspen]

It was mentioned in a dev interview earlier this year

[finite berry]

Plot twist, he decided to be respectful

[broken sable]

So hyped to watch the tank action as RazBora and TheFreshBakedGoods will be diving deep into the armour rework with some tank gaming.

Finally real gamers showing up game stuff

[young galleon]

This is the new cod

[worthy charm]

Sadly we dont got an Update on the matter yet. If your are lucky ben is gonna reply.

[covert elbow]

After years of being told to go to ARMA and S44 because I wanted basic features in game I think I can get some slack on spouting their insults back in their face

[gentle lintel]

Raz... a real gamer???? kidding

[young galleon]

Old school cod before they updated it and ruined their game

[broken sable]

Yes sir, he is a good tanker