#mess-hall

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analog apex
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G43 always better than Garand, they are the same but G43 has 10 rounds instead of Garand's 8.
STG44 best only in the <100m engagements, in the town as that is it's 1-hit-kill range while 30 roudns in magazine. +option to panic shooting with full auto and killing with 1 bullet under 100m...
...unless hitreg bugs/problems decide otherwise 😄 .

oak current
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awwww kek

pine ember
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I would also say the G43 is the best

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Best in the game, not irl

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Irl Id say the StG is the best

analog apex
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I never had any weapon in my hands irl, so I can judge only their in-game performances 🙂 .

oak current
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I'd give all those guns away, just to get an M712 ingame. Only me, nobody else pepe_shake

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Years of playing Day of Defeat have shaped me.

oak current
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Ammo? 10 / 20 Bullet Clips.
Fire rate? 900-1000 shots / m

novel geyser
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Day of defeat mentioned 🥳

oak current
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BRRRT, empty BRRRT, empty BRRRT, empty BRRRT, empty

pine ember
analog apex
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A feature like this would be interesting - only 1 special available loadout with some rare weapon and obtainable only by killing the player who has it. And losing the access to it to the player that kills us. xD

oak current
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what happends if you get admin-slain?

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does the admin get the gun?

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I feel like thats when the trail goes cold kek

novel geyser
analog apex
oak current
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and of course, a safeguard in case the player stops playing

analog apex
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yep, by randomly giving the loadout availability to random player maybe

oak current
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new mechanic to keep players engaged: weapons have corruption and if you dont play them, they become unavailable kek

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I should apply at Ubisoft or ElectronicARts

analog apex
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Garand and G43 are both apples in HLL
STG44 is an orange

oak current
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oh I'd take the STG44 over either rifle any day.
My aim is dogshit, so having something that keeps firing after I missed the first 1-2 shots, is great.

pine ember
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Yea, I know they are different. But these three are often considered the best

analog apex
pine ember
oak current
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me no aim, me old man, me go brrrt

pine ember
analog apex
pine ember
pine ember
oak current
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God I hate PHL kek

analog apex
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Those maps are great - I take MG42 for those always. ~200 killAmounts here I come. At least the great potential is there for it.

pine ember
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Since the update PHL isn’t as bad as it once was

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And Kursk, I love it

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On those maps I don’t have a problem with the Kar either

oak current
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bad, both of you. bad!
No praising PHL

pine ember
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PHL is still the worst map in the game

oak current
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there better not be a "but" coming

analog apex
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oh wait... window is open, you may use that too xD

pine ember
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Do you guys use the SMGs?

analog apex
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but yeah PHL got better with the maprefresh (not counding the low-dsitance rendering new assets they added however)

analog apex
pine ember
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Because I dont like them except the MP40

analog apex
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but if I know that some comparable good players are on the enemy team and I am using an SMG, I know that I need to expect to die more to them than if I had a rifle

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1-hit-kill rulez

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with SMG one may get a hit, but not a kill if the enemy has the same fast reflexes and they run into each other

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why some videos like this are capable of playing right in the dsicord one some others (like this very one) we need to download to play?

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ah right, probably too large

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300MB+? better to up it to youtube and not attach directly

oak current
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the regular experience...but with 2 more squads on defends than normal.

analog apex
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escalation 😄

oak current
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somebody must have build a garrison near the enemy point

pine ember
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Thompson and PPSH are able to shred, but only in short range

oak current
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its like rattling a bag of treats near your pets.
ATTACK GARRI? excite

analog apex
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watched... yep, stuff like this is however possible only if we are not fighting the other true good players

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if any of those peeps would be good, the SMG user is dead to rifle before getting that 2nd hit to kill

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nah, you are obviously good but they are not 😄

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I myself would die too in that situation if I was fighting wit hSMG true high LVLs with semi-autos, there is a good chance for that always. Rifle > SMG

oak current
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I dont wanna say Sam loves to throw shade, but hes also known as the Umbrella.

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HA bigmouthpepe

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pre-lunch pun

analog apex
oak current
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cause it throws a shade

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could have also gone "tree", but umbrella was closer theme-wise

analog apex
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and what does it mean "throwing a shade" in this discussion?
I don't understand.

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I reckon you are meaning it as a reference to something but I don't know the reference.

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aaaah 😄

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makes sense

oak current
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And I was in for the pun kek

analog apex
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Disrespecting wasn't my goal. If you took it that way, I apologise.

oak current
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Wow Robo, so much hate

analog apex
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you can... with Grease gun at least

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don't make me go over days/months of footage to look for the stuff 😄

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😜

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I'll try to get some when playing next time.

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May not be soon though, leaving my PC tomorrow for the whole weekend.

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Will try later today.

analog apex
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I have been looking forward to it actually, some break from the PC overall... 🙂

oak current
analog apex
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Friday is not in the server xD

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better drop them on DasAltberg 😃

azure heath
pine ember
nova pivot
pine ember
azure heath
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thank you! i’ve asked for this before and no one knew.

azure heath
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the typewriter thompson is good too only bc of how much ammo you get.

wind shore
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Stalingrad should be the next update

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And after Stalingrad comes announce of the new map

azure heath
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What?

nova pivot
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Has the best sights

azure heath
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I love me a Sten V sight

nova pivot
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The gresegun is fine but the sights are horrible

nova pivot
azure heath
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I get it, they’re thick and rounded which is odd.

arctic rampart
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So these mfers can use a font with SS in the name, but I can't do a S and S reaction?

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Actually insane

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Anyways, y'all still playing?

azure heath
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I seed

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if that counts

arctic rampart
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Tf is the point of doing that?

azure heath
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Obligations and being a seeding director.

arctic rampart
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omegalul

azure heath
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I just AFK it

arctic rampart
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You have a duty to be a seeder?

azure heath
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Yes.

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The game would be dead without seeders

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so thank me

arctic rampart
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I don't think it would. It would just be the case that we'd have less servers

azure heath
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and how would those servers get populated?

arctic rampart
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Just jump on, like always

azure heath
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which is seeding

arctic rampart
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No it isn't

azure heath
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elaborate

arctic rampart
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Any players entering a server before it's full doesn't qualify seeding.

azure heath
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If you start out the population on a server I would call that seeding

arctic rampart
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That would be saying like, people back in 2007 playing cs 1.6 were "seeding" at 10/16 players on their dust_2, server because the rest of the boys weren't home yet

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No, it's just simply a not populated server

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Seeding is going under the logic of purely joining the server to artificially boost the number up w/o actively engaging in the game

azure heath
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until 50% capacity it’s seedjng

arctic rampart
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That's just an arbitrary logic that we use here

azure heath
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people seed active all the time, that’s what i do on occasion

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which is no different then starting out one of those servers

arctic rampart
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Just like in Reforger rn. Sitting at like 40/128 doesn't mean we're seeding. We're playing 1:1 like we were if the server was full.
There's no separate rule sets, there's no rewards for doing it - nothing.

azure heath
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Arma is a different game there’s AI and base of operations

arctic rampart
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No, not everywhere

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Battlefield players ain't seeding either. Nor' are counter strike community server players, cod players, tf2 players

azure heath
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In Arma are you trying to reach a higher player count to have a real game?

Sure some players in He’ll Let Loose might not be trying to seed, but if they jumpstart a population it’s still seeding

seeding is simply jumpstarting a population whether on purpose or not. That’s all there is to it

arctic rampart
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Seeding as a term for games has essentially only come from squad

azure heath
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Yeah. Probably

arctic rampart
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And I don't think that definition of seeding is correct at all. Any jumpstarting does not qualify seeding.

azure heath
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It’s a term that can be utilized anywhere.

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If you plant a seed in your yard and it grows it’s a seed.

If a bird shits a seed in your yard and it grows it’s also a seed.

thorn timber
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is there a LFG channel ?

arctic rampart
thorn timber
arctic rampart
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A more appropriate definition of seeding would be something like:

Participating in the population of a game server whilst operating under a limited or modified way to encourage more players to join.

So just joining a 20/128 (Arma's case) or a 40/100 player HLL server and playing doesn't qualify as seeding.

The usual sitting AFK in menu with the sole purpose of bringing the number up would qualify as seeding.
Playing under a set ruleset, like not capping certain bases/flags or attacking certain things would be seeding.
And doing these actions under the logic of being rewarded in some way (such as VIP in HLL or whatever) 100% qualifies as seeding.

I even know that old 1.6 servers to this day utilize various paid services where fake accounts join servers to seed them.

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So if seeding were to disappear, it wouldn’t mean the game is dead, not at all.
It would just mean we’d see a major drop in quick buy, thrown together servers (due to hosting costs and modern licensing), and a shift toward more well known servers with longer queues.

Because if a server is popular enough, it doesn’t even need seeding. Servers like Circle in HLL and W.C.S in Reforger stay over 60% full 24/7 without fake AFK players in menus or sketchy paid services to fill them.

azure heath
# arctic rampart A more appropriate definition of seeding would be something like: >Participating...

Okay, so we have different understandings or interpretations of what seeding means.

What I read is a paragraph of ways to maximize the facilitation of seeding, but not necessarily what seeding is.

I believe that seeding is simply the growth of a population on a server from a small player base to a larger or more full one.

I don’t want to argue about this all day so I’ll let you have your side, but I don’t necessarily think that it’s true and that’s fine, we all have our opinions.

arctic rampart
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And god damn this cencorship for a bloody gore game. Can't even write a few sentences w/o auto mod kicking in. Feels like a roblox server

azure heath
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Seeding is literally a synonym.

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It’s not a real word, but if it were.

wind shore
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I think we need to seed Minecraft servers

arctic rampart
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If seeding was just populating something, we would have every server explain it in a separate dc channel

wind shore
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And play more Minecraft

azure heath
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Not in this context.

arctic rampart
azure heath
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Dawg I whipped out my hardcover oxford dictionary and it only had the biology word. Mb mate.

arctic rampart
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Anyway, seeding != populating, but more like populating**+** with the + standing for the set rules or differences in playstyle etc.

arctic rampart
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Why the heck would we hear about cloud seeding?

azure heath
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I ain’t IT.

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oh like in uae

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when they make the rain fall

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by putting salt or something

arctic rampart
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That's like asking a guy working in a textile factory in Taiwan if he knows about C pointers.

azure heath
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I was thinking more like the digital cloud, but no I got you.

arctic rampart
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When's the next HLL update gonna ship?

azure heath
arctic rampart
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Do I understand it correctly that the last major update really added like 2 meaningful things which were the bipod changes and medic config changes?

azure heath
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phone keyboard

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°

azure heath
analog apex
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October at the latest.

arctic rampart
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I haven't played at all, so no clue, gimme the info

analog apex
azure heath
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if you bipod prone you can’t turn on some surfaces

vale garnet
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They made them better but still not amazing

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Removed a lot of head glitches which is nice

analog apex
arctic rampart
analog apex
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wow

vale garnet
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If an MG can shoot you, you can pretty much always shoot back now

azure heath
vale garnet
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I would prefer them nerfed more though

analog apex
vale garnet
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I just want the faster sprint speed back 🥹

analog apex
arctic rampart
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Ye, I checked. I played around Dec. 2024, then played wow pservers for a few months and then at the start of March I bought Reforger and have been more or less playing only that

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Tried a match with a buddy I met via HLL, but it just got really boring. Same match on the same map, with the same rollout and same bozos on the team screwing me over in the same ways

vale garnet
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Not at all, I just prefer some balance

azure heath
vale garnet
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Games already too easy I just don’t enjoy how boring it is

arctic rampart
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Try Reforger

vale garnet
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Played it

analog apex
vale garnet
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Nice great suggestion

azure heath
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If you think Hell Let Loose is easy Reforger is not it.

analog apex
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was annoying fighting all of you while I was the only one on our team that was capable of providing at least resistance

vale garnet
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Yeah you were my victim I remember

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Reforger is arcade ARMA it’s dumb

analog apex
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yep, as I remember how you were spawncamping my OP from the ruin north of AA

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and yet I got you 😄

arctic rampart
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Almost like it's a stepping stone to arma 4

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Oh wait...

azure heath
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Gentlemen’s rules, destroy OPs if possible, don’t camp them for kills

vale garnet
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And we got your OP 😇 get good and stop trying to bait me child

analog apex
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but it was not just you, you had another good shots in the team back then

vale garnet
analog apex
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one of another yours was Wolfie or something like that

vale garnet
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Like in events if I know it’s my clan mates im camping that OP until they join my VC to yell at me

azure heath
analog apex
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try it the other way around when yo uare gettign hammered down from all sides because of the imbalance

vale garnet
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Why would I fight you fair when I can kill you with no effort

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This is an fps I’m not trying to fight you fair 😂😂😂

azure heath
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Issue with all clan servers and even leaking into other servers is the constant team stacking

arctic rampart
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Welp, if there's nothing to see in HLL, I'll be back when there's something new or just to post a image in the chat when it's absolutely dead for 4 hours only to receive a warning for it.

analog apex
vale garnet
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You play the occasional 6 man but not too often

azure heath
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Glow’s East is bad

vale garnet
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Glows is bad we know this

azure heath
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G&W is aight

vale garnet
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For US servers I’d say pathfinders and SYN are good

azure heath
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Path is good

vale garnet
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I don’t play G&W

azure heath
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Never played SYN bc i still don’t trust

vale garnet
azure heath
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GOF still taunts me to this day

analog apex
vale garnet
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Don’t start what you can’t take child

vale garnet
analog apex
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I could spawncamp random peeps on their OPs too, it just feels wrong.

vale garnet
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I could put effort into playing you but I was told not to bully disabled people

analog apex
azure heath
vale garnet
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Okay?

vale garnet
azure heath
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Get rid of OPs and let us just spawn on SLs

vale garnet
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Like if it’s a 50 second run to a Garry, you’re not gonna make it

analog apex
azure heath
vale garnet
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You started the baiting don’t start crying now

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Your tone and need to act smarter than everyone else every day in this disc is frankly pathetic

analog apex
azure heath
silk igloo
analog apex
azure heath
vale garnet
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I don’t have the patience to be polite to those who can’t be polite to others

azure heath
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It’s called gentlemen’s for a reason

vale garnet
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The most open angle of your OP is gonna be 150m behind you

analog apex
silk igloo
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i dont camp OPs or garris, airheads sometimes for the giggles, but there is a valid reason to camp spawns. wouldnt need to if the map was narrow or open...

analog apex
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You can think whatever of me, just keep it civil.

azure heath
vale garnet
vale garnet
analog apex
vale garnet
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I was as respectful to you as you are to me

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How lacking are you in self awareness

analog apex
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You seem to think too much of yourself.

vale garnet
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No I’m having fun now

azure heath
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He’s baiting you btw

analog apex
azure heath
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oo they’re taking it to the other room, shits boutta get down

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Okay, anyways. How are we this morning/evening?

vale garnet
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So go away and stop being so irritating to everyone you interact with

analog apex
vale garnet
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Nah bro Xdd

azure heath
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Nice. What’s on the menu for today?

analog apex
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...after eating some beef jerky

azure heath
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Okay, that all sounds good.

I went to the deli got some cold cuts and making myself half a roast beef sandwich with all the goods on a ciabatta.

slate canopy
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Lunch break? It's breakfast time! (/usa)

gentle lintel
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based euro response

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kidding

oak current
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He Drew a line there

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kidding

night lark
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Have the clan bros stopped shouting at eachother

cosmic pilot
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Clan.bros trying not to cheat (they will lose if they don't cheat)

empty steppe
empty steppe
empty steppe
nova pivot
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@empty steppe you are not going slid under the rug

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🫂

empty steppe
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Thx my guy

cosmic pilot
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Chat, I'm bored

empty steppe
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I just wish there was a better way to get lots and lots of people to see it 😅

empty steppe
empty steppe
pine ember
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Consider this dear devs

vale garnet
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It’s fine bf6 will save us

nova pivot
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Do it

pine ember
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@fluid pawn Please

nova pivot
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I love you @pine ember

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In a not gay way, in a masculine admiration way

pine ember
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I love you too

pine ember
nova pivot
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I don't have any problems on changing my mind

pine ember
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Wait what

nova pivot
pine ember
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I aint gay either

nova pivot
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🤨

pine ember
azure heath
cosmic pilot
# empty steppe Oh

Flawed argument.
The player numbers always go down in the summer.
For reasons I hope are obvious

azure heath
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for the happiness of their children

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never for themselves

empty steppe
cosmic pilot
azure heath
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Smaller QOL improvements and new guns.

Iron sights Springfield and a Rifle Grenade kit for all factions.

cosmic pilot
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I'm just trying to tell you your data doesn't strongly prove your argument

novel geyser
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I know what will bring players back GBPig

frail heart
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I havent played a single game of public since April.

I play comp only these days matches are structured people use mics.

bright basalt
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Contemplating whether or not to get this game

frail heart
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Most of my clan only play comp on tuesdays, thursdays & sundays. We have like 5 people who hop on most nights to play public and thats it

frail heart
empty steppe
azure heath
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And you get to see what content is coming

novel geyser
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wow mysterious ping

azure heath
novel geyser
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oh...
I was gonna say pacific but... I guess that too.................

azure heath
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oh

frail heart
empty steppe
novel geyser
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I agree pacific never

frail heart
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£47 for a game that came out in 2021 with lack of thought from the devs

frail heart
empty steppe
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an even when there is, its just not enough in the form of maps

frail heart
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Mod support would give the game some extra life, but look on the bright side lets hope 83 is a good game to go to

empty steppe
azure heath
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I honestly think ‘83 might be another Beyond the Wire situation with other games covering the same theater that seem better. But I’m hoping not.

frail heart
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If your a new player or just a casual player looking for regular games id defo recomend joining one of the many communities to take part in the orginised events 110% better than any public games.

azure heath
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If only my schedule worked with them, but my weekends are booked.

frail heart
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Tuesdays you have SLB 19:30 UK time that's a good event. You dont even need a full team you can bring your own squad of 6 and sign up for it or join a bigger team

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Thursdays there is greyhound nights same time

azure heath
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SLBs are too early.. for me an American.

I’m just stuck with nothing that works for me.

frail heart
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Is there no American type slb events?

azure heath
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Haven’t been looking into it.

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The Comp schedule is the antithesis of my usual schedule

vale garnet
vale garnet
azure heath
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Those are fun but I wouldn’t say structured

frail heart
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Hopefully BF6 pulls through and gives us dedicated hosts like the old ones

empty steppe
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maybe

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i just wish there was another game like this 🙁

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ill just go play reforger haha

thin lotus
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😬

azure heath
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just gotta wait in the 100 person queue instead of populating/seeding a server with those same people

empty steppe
azure heath
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ICO killed it for me

empty steppe
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the map menu killed it for me when i first played lol

thin lotus
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Being a boring tedious game killed it for me

nova pivot
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Not having a pc killed it for me

gaunt orchid
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WOO! Just reached career level 100

empty steppe
desert owl
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red orchestra? (Haven’t played personally)

vale garnet
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Squad is the only game where you literally won’t see anyone and still people get hyped about how well your squad did

vale garnet
desert owl
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Played this game on controller before support, but that one I just can’t do

vale garnet
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Squad sucks

desert owl
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Damn

vale garnet
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Sleep simulator

desert owl
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Not any good modern shooters out there to be honest

vale garnet
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Hopefully battlefield will be good, apart from that ARMA has its moments

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A good arma op is actually very fun, but just hopping on a random server is meh

desert owl
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Let’s hope so, this will be the first battlefield I dive into if so. And Arma seems to be at the top right now

vale garnet
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Battlefield at its best is incredible

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Whether this one will be that I dunno

desert owl
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Didn’t they just get an engine upgrade?

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I beg to differ. Ue4 to ue5 is a huge jump. Might be worth a shot looking at it again

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If that was the only thing holding you back

vale garnet
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Squad confuses realism with incompetence and that’s why it sucks.

You’re not gonna lose all motor functions the moment someone shoots at you and it doesn’t take a year to reload a rifle

cosmic pilot
desert owl
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Guess they haven’t yet, but when time comes I’d expect a huge overhaul at least graphically

night lark
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I like squad. Its fun. Tow missile go weeeee

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Imo i think people have a hard time with it because its a bit sweaty meta

vale garnet
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It’s not even sweaty it’s just slow

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It feels like you’re running in soup

night lark
night lark
vale garnet
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Yeah you don’t turn into a Parkinson’s victim

night lark
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Aye same

vale garnet
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Now if you could change your loadout and make it lighter or heavier and that affects it, then I see it

night lark
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I do wish it was a bit faster with movement and reloads. But i like the actual game mechanics and game pacing

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Each to their own. ATGMs go weeeeee

desert owl
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Don’t waste your time

worthy charm
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Lets not do advertisements here 😅

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Its already bad enough we have elise on here, doing it like 3 times a day

novel mantle
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im excited

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Gonna finally be able to play it

desert owl
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Try and enjoy bro, but Hell Let Loose better, trust.

novel mantle
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I prefer realism

desert owl
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all in your playstyle

slate canopy
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You are free to compare games, but not straight up advertise like that lol

worthy charm
desert owl
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Enlist

novel mantle
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A video game can be more realistic than another

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and I prefer the more realistic one

desert owl
cosmic pilot
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I prefer your mom

gentle lintel
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jesus

novel mantle
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HLL is like BF1/V hardcore, infinite sprint, no weapon sway, perfect gun accuracy, etc

cyan saddle
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Banned

worthy charm
gentle lintel
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damn look at us just pounce

cyan saddle
empty steppe
novel mantle
cyan saddle
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Oh like that

novel mantle
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Only main difference is the run speed

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...at least in BF you can zero in your weapons

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No after sprinting, your aim will be steady

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That's what I meant

worthy charm
novel mantle
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HLL you can run across the map and still have steady perfect aim

worthy charm
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Why the fish? 😭

empty steppe
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Idk

novel mantle
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also.... S44 has the pacific 😄

empty steppe
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I just clicked the first thing I thought of

tall kettleBOT
novel mantle
#

can't wait to try it out

empty steppe
#

I’m hungry

novel mantle
#

they even added a Churchill Crocodile flamethrower tank XD

empty steppe
#

I actually want that for driel lol

analog apex
#

sry late for the party

empty steppe
#

As that one guy always said

novel mantle
empty steppe
#

That’s a lot of damage

empty steppe
novel mantle
#

Yeah

analog apex
empty steppe
#

Tiny patch

analog apex
#

we'll see where these overhauls lead

novel mantle
#

overhauls?

#

barely an overhaul imo

empty steppe
#

slight code change

novel mantle
#

For tanks, they're probably just gonna change the tank speed for each tank and other minor adjustments and call it an overhaul

empty steppe
#

because a large one would blow the game up

novel mantle
#

If they added a whole new faction + with two or three new maps in an update, player count will shoot up

nova pivot
empty steppe
#

or there extremely lazy

#

I’m not sure anymore

empty steppe
#

Prank him John @worthy charm

analog apex
worthy charm
empty steppe
#

And oh look at that, there goes the player count 🤣

novel mantle
#

imagine they just dropped a trailer for an Italian front

  • featuring sicily, monte cassino, and Anzio
  • introduction of an italian faction, Polish and Canadian subfactions
    ...all coming in the next update 👀
analog apex
#

battlemetrics - there are all PC servers and all players regardless of where they are coming from, are accounted for

cyan saddle
#

Not true

analog apex
#

no?

#

so EPIC players are not accounted there?

#

(for instance)

cyan saddle
#

Only servers that are subscribed to its RCON service

analog apex
#

pretty much

cyan saddle
analog apex
#

I can check and compare with the in-game server browser but I believe BM shows them all too, even if some don't have the rcon setup for them there

empty steppe
#

Im not sure but I’ll send the graph I found in off topic

#

I’m not totally sure if there is one besides steam db

cyan saddle
#

That's Steam only

empty steppe
#

I would be interested to see the epic games one

#

Massive spike and then a bomb probably

analog apex
#

in any case, in July 2021 (month of HLL releasing out of EA) we had 3600+ players on Steam alone. Today, we have 4100 but all clients combined. The numbers are just going down.

cyan saddle
analog apex
#

HLL lost 500+ players during just past 30 days on Steam alone

cyan saddle
#

That happens every summer

empty steppe
analog apex
#

as the one before, roughly

cyan saddle
#

You shouldnt compare less than a month old steamdb data with older data

analog apex
#

but it shows clear downtrend

#

even the months outside the summer this year, HLL has been losing the players even after the EPIC sale settled down

empty steppe
#

I think the odds of a large rebound are slimming immensely too

cyan saddle
#

Older data is a lot less precise and because it takes the peak over a longer period, it always paints a prettier picture

#

Playercount has remained pretty consistent over the last years

analog apex
#

I don't think that's true... 🤔

cyan saddle
#

That's what they say every summer

empty steppe
#

This doesn’t look consistent

analog apex
#

I am not looking at peaks

#

I am looking at avg counts and they are not consistent either

empty steppe
#

The summer curve is beginning to curve down 😅

analog apex
#

the fluctuations are just... beyond consistent

empty steppe
#

I think he’ll let loose still has a good chance

analog apex
#

no doom coming, not any time soon

empty steppe
#

The just need to fix some things

analog apex
#

eeeh.... yep 😄

empty steppe
#

analog apex
#

some higher number of critical things

empty steppe
#

We need the devs to realize “oh hey, the game is beginning to lose popularity, maybe we need to change something to make sure we are growing and making money”

#

Tbh… no I don’t think they do 🤣

#

And if they do, they should be trying to make a change

#

One person is not a department

#

There teams not that big 😅

#

Mb I responded to the wrong statement, I think you get the point

analog apex
#

...if they are capable of, to

cosmic pilot
#

@analog apex , I'm going to shift the goal post.
Afawk, steam players only make up a fraction of the playerbase now, so even if we were to consider a proportional drop on all platforms, it'd be higher than 4 years ago

empty steppe
#

Even building better hype for things that are coming might help them out in a way

#

Easter eggs

#

Like… anything of that matter

analog apex
#

1st, they would need to get rid of the stutters. Then probably upgrade to at least newest UE4 to get the DLSS support in (or vice versa). And ofc... overhauls and additions to the systems.

#

The pinnacle would be modding support.

analog apex
#

I wouldn't dare to call that a fraction at all

#

yep, but do you rly. think there will be less of them in the evening? 🤔

empty steppe
#

Ummm ok?

analog apex
#

I wish we could see EPIC HLL numbers alone, I would love to see how much of the free sale players have remained

empty steppe
#

I have a feeling that’s still going to be biased though and only pointing out the pluses, no matter the numbers.

#

also that’s the company that owns t17 not t17

analog apex
#

we can easily check more days and make an average

#

if we check every day

#

not that hard even

#

and I am interested in it too

cosmic pilot
#

@analog apex the burden of proof is on you to prove the players won't comeback

analog apex
#

why the heck on me? 😄

empty steppe
cosmic pilot
#

Now, anecdotally, I concur, that the interest in the game is lower than usual.

#

But your data doesn't prove that strongly

analog apex
empty steppe
#

People won’t come back, without new content, they get bored

worthy charm
#

-# /s

analog apex
empty steppe
#

This report is coming from a huge company that’s only looking at the game from a moneymaking standpoint, there is also, no report from this year

worthy charm
#

xD

empty steppe
analog apex
worthy charm
#

To be fair tho, currently im unemployed...

analog apex
#

😮

#

I hope and wish you find some good job then

gray garden
#

It was mentioned to me that I could have, however it didn't work with me doing bumps for my community so

empty steppe
#

Well we are talking about player count and the low we are experiencing this year (or more with these few months) , there was no major downtrend last year. So we will have to wait for there next report

gray garden
#

But now I'm employed and retired from this game

empty steppe
#

I assumed you were talking about Team 17 in particular, not the company that owns them, my apologies

cosmic pilot
#

Do we have a clue if hll has paid for it's buying price yet from bm?

#

Guy in the back be like: mendez_wut

empty steppe
#

It is formally recognized as T-17, they own multiple companies now and rebranded as Everplay (atleast from what I’m reading) Team 17 is now a smaller company within this company’s brand

thin lotus
#

As in “why would you Everplay HLL?”

#

Lmaooooo

#

T minus 17 seconds before I quit this match cause it’s so bad lmaooooo

empty steppe
#

Everplay owns T17, astragon, and storytoys

analog apex
thin lotus
cosmic pilot
#

Weak

analog apex
#

we can't be surprised though... no matter who it is about
HLL's been just... HLL xD

thin lotus
#

I hadn’t uninstalled since it came to steam, but now it’ll stay that way indefinitely

wintry thistle
#

End of an era

empty steppe
#

I might uninstall it for space pretty soon here

#

I just have too many games that are more worth my time and update regularly with new content 😅

analog apex
#

when the last DLC for KCD2 comes out, I will be playing that so will leave HLL for a while again too

#

also waiting when Gothic Remake release date will be...

pine ember
#

I might switch to S44

analog apex
#

and despite I don't usually look for such games, I got interested in Atomic Heart II and The Cube from the same studio - it just looks too original to be missed.

pine ember
finite berry
#

So, as soon as that's done, come join us ❤️

pine ember
#

Yea, I have an exam tomorrow, but I will join this weekend

wind shore
#

hll should be like squad 44

pine ember
#

Hope there is something interesting like Crete

vale garnet
analog apex
pine ember
wind shore
#

i mean the squad system

analog apex
finite berry
finite berry
pine ember
# wind shore hll should be like squad 44

Yes and no. Subfactions in this game would be cool, but other things S44 has dont really fit into HLL. HLL should be different than its competitor. But yea, my main problem with HLL rn is that its becoming more and more casual, and there is a reason why I picked this game up and not BF

#

@analog apex @finite berry Thanks guys!!

#

Lets wait if I drop out XDD

empty steppe
finite berry
pine ember
finite berry
#

Imagine Battlefield's Conquest but with Squad 44's gunplay, sound effects and gun visuals

pine ember
#

I started my FPS career in HLL, so I first had to get used to BFs gunplay

empty steppe
#

My first fps game was bf1

pine ember
#

But back in 2020 HLL was very different, I miss that time

empty steppe
#

😅

pine ember
#

Just leave it mostly as it was back then and add new maps and factions, that would be the best

pine ember
nova pivot
nova pivot
pine ember
wind shore
#

team 18 said in one of their videos the next update could get new vehicles and a new eastern map

empty steppe
#

😂

nova pivot
wind shore
#

i play it since 2021

empty steppe
wind shore
#

sorry

finite berry
finite berry
#

Only the OG PvZ game is legit :D

#

Such a good game

pine ember
#

But I prefer HLL since its more realistic (good for a history buff like me) and it has (or had) certain teamplay elements and a few more hardcore elements that once also were in BF but arent anymore since that series also got so casual. HLL is the perfect mix for me between accessable but also accurate and more hardcore with more debt to it than BF

analog apex
#

my first game was Star Wars JK2 Jedi Outcast and my 1st MP shooter was Hidden and Dangerous 2

pine ember
#

My first was Asphalt 7 and then Minecraft

#

And Mario Kart 7

wind shore
#

we need the racketenwerfer

pine ember
finite berry
wind shore
#

sorry i mean nebelwerfer

finite berry
#

You're butchering my beautiful language :D

wind shore
#

tut mir leid

#

scheiß kleine tastatur auf handy

finite berry
pine ember
#

Its Rindfleischetikettierungsübertragungsaufgabenüberwachungsgesetz

analog apex
#

wtf is that xD

finite berry
#

A law

pine ember
#

One of the longest German words in existence

finite berry
analog apex
#

can't even read that on 1st attempt... nor 2nd heh

nova pivot
azure heath
#

I think we need a spin-off game. Call it Plants vs. N@zis.

finite berry
pine ember
#

We just need the Pacific

wind shore
wind shore
wind shore
azure heath
#

Wasn’t a joke. That was very serious. I would 100% play a game about plants vs. the historically bad guy all throughout history.

pine ember
#

Also there is a difference between N@zis and German soldiers in WW2. Not every N@zi was a soldier, and not every soldier was a N@zi

pine ember
#

Ah ok

pine ember
#

We are now on that arc again

wind shore
#

i dont talk about that better i dont want to get banned

finite berry
#

Right

#

Better tell us about that birb in your pfp

finite berry
#

🐦

azure heath
#

Okay, fine. If everyone is the good guy in their own mind just make it plants vs. the world.

pine ember
#

Because bird

finite berry
#

Because it's cute and less controversial than your topic

finite berry
wind shore
#

its just a wellensitich

azure heath
finite berry
vale garnet
#

Bros a Nazi damn

empty steppe
#

Hans, get ze panzerfaust

finite berry
#

@oak current
that birb is stupidly cute, I need it

oak current
#

so many lil birbs

wind shore
#

wait so i how do i get unbanned from the in game server then?

#

if theres no discord

#

yeah im cooked ig

pine ember
#

Just unlock your stuff the normal way

#

Its also a better feeling then when you finally have it

wind shore
#

yeah ur right

pine ember
#

And no, lvl9 assault isnt worth it

mellow knoll
#

Extremely false.

desert owl
#

Currently grinding for the stg for assault class

gentle lintel
oak current
dim snow
pine ember
nova pivot
finite berry
#

Otherwise HLL would implode

wind shore
#

grenadier is pretty good its just a mobile airstrike

pine ember
# nova pivot Bro nerfs himself

G43 is better than the StG
I prefer having more smoke and frag grenades
And in most scenarios I barely get to use the satchel

#

If I need it I switch, but then switch back after the job is done

empty steppe
nova pivot
#

The stg it's my little precious baby

empty steppe
#

smoldering take

empty steppe
pine ember
#

The StG for sure is better irl

#

But in the game the G43 rules

nova pivot
pine ember
nova pivot
river rover
arctic rampart
#

This mfer 3 messages above advertises a whole different game in mess hall, but I get a warning for posting a single gameplay screenshot of Reforger.
Biased as f

thin lotus
#

Biased or based??????

cosmic pilot
#

mans hates reforger too?

#

do you enjoy playing any fps games

gentle lintel
#

He’s not a gamer

novel mantle
#

it's not bad but im just too tired playing the same maps over and over

slate canopy
wind shore
#

And at all it would be maybe 2 maps next year and at all - 22 maps

novel mantle
#

im sure you know which maps xD

slate canopy
#

I've got almost 1000 hours. I usually get a good variety.

nova pivot
#

The holly trinity

wind shore
#

I never playing remagen day, I love remagen night

#

And I feel like fish in the water

#

Cause I definitely know that’s the good camping map

#

And I love this night vibe on this map

slate canopy
#

I most recently played on Kursk, Stalingrad, and something else.

nova pivot
wind shore
#

This is amazing

wind shore
#

We need Berlin night map

#

And better if after Berlin will comes other maps

slate canopy
#

They said Berlin would be like the final map... soooo no lol

azure heath
#

When they announce Berlin we know it’s over.

#

Might be soon.

wind shore
#

Imagine they announcing Berlin map and after new maps

nova pivot
gray garden
#

No

#

As in they said Berlin would be the final map they ever do as a swansong

wind shore
#

We need new tanks

finite berry
#

Take a shot every time Kedo says "We need"

novel mantle
#

playing squad 44 right now, the invasion of france 1940

#

such a nice breath of fresh air

finite berry
#

Stonne is so good

azure heath
#

I want to play the Chapter Mercury ones but no server plays them.

novel mantle
#

I can finally play with the mortar 😄

#

nah, I can see why it's not in HLL

finite berry
novel mantle
#

Would be way too op

finite berry
#

It's not OP

novel mantle
#

If it was added to HLL

#

Because pinging gives you the exact range

#

In S44 it's more balanced because you have to estimate it

finite berry
#

It requires excellent knowledge about positioning and also works best with a voluntary spotter calling corrections

finite berry
azure heath
novel mantle
#

idk we were defending the first point, mostly fields

finite berry
novel mantle
#

with a town in the middle and river

azure heath
finite berry
#

Yep, that's Dinant

novel mantle
finite berry
#

The Gras is so bad that I love it

azure heath
#

It’s honestly hilarious to play with

novel mantle
#

this is an actual ptsd simulator

#

i was playing as the french defending while constant bombardment all around

#

insane

azure heath
nova pivot
#

How many players in a lobby?

novel mantle
#

sound design for the explosions all around is way better than HLL imo

finite berry
finite berry
nova pivot
azure heath
novel mantle
azure heath
#

maybe a little infantry and one tank game

#

on the pacific

nova pivot
#

And how big are the maps?

novel mantle
novel mantle
#

way bigger lol

azure heath
novel mantle
#

But driving is much faster

#

like way faster lol

nova pivot
novel mantle
#

yeah way too slow but maps are much smaller so makes sense

finite berry
# nova pivot No, in hell let loose, obviously in squad

It depends on a server and where it sets the cap. Most servers go with 100, our server today capped at 88 + 2 reserved slots for admins; less players compared to 100, but thus also the chance of better performance for everyone

finite berry
azure heath
#

stationary

#

mobile i’ve dabbled with

finite berry
#

Ah, nice one

novel mantle
#

the explosions though are so much better

#

visually and sound

finite berry
novel mantle
#

oh no

#

im playing st mere eglise

#

I can't escape from the HLL maps 🤣

wind shore
#

Pacific?

mellow knoll
river summit
#

anyone playing

slate canopy
wheat crag
#

what determines how long it takes to dismantle a garry?

slate canopy
#

As in an enemy garrison? If you're in their locked region, it takes longer to dismantle vs the current battle section.

wheat crag
#

Ohh, makes sense

empty steppe
#

2 years ago

brittle shuttle
#

every single server is full right now... does that mean i just cant play the game??? this is so frustrating

slate canopy
#

YOu should be able to find some 60-80 filled with decent ping.

oak current
#

theres around 400+ servers online. if each was full that would be 40000 players.
now THAT would be some juicy player numbers for a friday morning kek

#

at that point, they should start paying mods

slate canopy
nova pivot
#

Why are you awake it's fckg 3:08 AM

oak current
#

Working on something

nova pivot
oak current
slate canopy
#

i wish...

worthy charm
oak current
#

Am I on the naughty list? cat_stare

nova pivot
oak current
nova pivot
nova pivot
worthy charm
#

Youre to nice, unlike others...

nova pivot
#

😴

oak current
novel mantle
#

ww2 online and ro2 are the best ww2 games

novel mantle
empty steppe
#

Cod waw

#

That is probably the only game I have ever played that I have not a single complaint about, literally everything is absolute cinema

crimson bramble
#

My game isn't starting today. EAC is having a problem with some "Interception" program. Is this normal?

crimson bramble
analog apex
#

then check the truckdriver kill at the end my man 😄

#

100m more than your rifle one meh

#

on 1:26 I have one of the same distance as yours too

#

and all the others were 200m+

#

anyway... you shown me one, I shown you more so I believe it's more than enough 🙂
all I could do in such a short time anyway

#

also, you need to consider the zoom on Grease gun - rifles have stronger zoom, + I forgot to check the FOV. Not bad for SMG's slow bullets I believe.

#

I may play some more before I leave today, but I guess see ya after the weekend.

#

I agree - looks like Sam_15_SVK 😄

#

Sorry I am unable to be short, ever. Hence my old suggestions made of few A4s in the old times xD .

#

It's a skill I lack to my sadness.

#

I always feel/urge I have to explain and touch everything.

#

in that case, and to be short, you have shown one, so you can check just the truck driver longest kill and ignore the rest... there ya go

#

that was however not the one on the Elsenborn video

#

I went to your position and measured the distance of the target

#

maybe it was some other kill you made

#

lemme check again

#

I don't have access to that link

#

anyway, 372m... that makes it 8 more meters to go to match mine 😜

#

I thought you do, so I started measuring our eeeehm just for the fun of it xD

#

I considered it a challenge... at least something more to play for on top of usual stuff

#

I like challenges - WTH had a great challenges system in their server, I wish all the servers had it

#

like... kill xy with this or that weapon under this or that circumstance

#

In that case I apologise for moving this to a level you didn't intend to get to. 😔

grim wagon
silk igloo
#

looks like it's yours 🤪

high onyx
#

Im new to the game but am learning very quick. But i find it frustrating when players don't use their headset. Any servers or communitys i can join which players are more talkative ?

cunning lion
#

How many kill points does a kill give you

kind crater
#

1 million aura points 😎

willow lantern
#

how would new members after today know to react to the message to get news?

oak current
#

probably something on the onboarding screen when you join discord

fluid pawn
#

It will be going into the onboarding process 🙂

oak current
#

HA! hypers

novel geyser
#

people already not checking telegram for updates time for even less perchance

#

how will people know about pacific next week

nova pivot
#

I want newsss

oak current
#

people ignore telegram and ask whats written in telegram, so its fine kek

tall kettleBOT
azure heath
#

gimme news, i ain't doing it myself i wanna be fed it

novel geyser
#

GBPig doing my part

azure heath
nova pivot
#

News news newsAltberg

azure heath
#

WE NEED THE PACIFIC!!!! RAHH

fluid pawn
nova pivot
azure heath
#

@nocturne birch

oak current
#

.smoggless

azure heath
#

.berg

nova pivot
#

.pacific

oak current
#

.dot

azure heath
#

.

nova pivot
#

..

fluid pawn
#

...

azure heath
#

....

nova pivot
azure heath
#

......

nova pivot
#

.......

oak current
#

........

nova pivot
#

..........

azure heath
#

...........

fluid pawn
#

What in the morse code is going on?!

azure heath
#

....-......---....

nova pivot
tall kettleBOT
azure heath
#

.... . .-.. .-.. / .-.. . - / .-.. --- --- ... . / .. ... / - .... . / -... . ... - / --. .- -- . / .- -. -.. / -... . -. / .. ... / - .... . / -... . ... - / - --- --- -.-.--

azure heath
nova pivot
#

There was no need

azure heath
#
  • .... . -.-- .----. .-.. .-.. / -. . ...- . .-. / -.- -. --- .-- / .. / ... .- .. -.. / .-- . / -. . . -.. / - .... . / .--. .- -.-. .. ..-. .. -.-. -.-.--
nocturne birch
#

@azure heath 😤

analog apex
#

wtf is happening

#

in here

nova pivot
nova pivot
nocturne birch
#

@sturdy bridge

hybrid sage
#

@sturdy bridge

azure heath
#

@sturdy bridge

analog apex
#

thank god for morse code translators xD

slate canopy
#

Please do not randomly ping other users 😦

hybrid sage
#

lol

azure heath
hybrid sage
#

sorry flerg, as your teammate, i didnt mean to upset you!

slate canopy
nocturne birch
#

I sadly play on team with Flerg too

azure heath
#

sorry flerg, as some1 you tk every match

nocturne birch
cosmic pilot
#

Clearly, when smog pinged Anna there was a methodology to his choice

hybrid sage
#

#BringBackHLLScreenshots

nocturne birch
brittle shuttle
#

will i still skip the queue even if vip slots are full? if im vip*

azure heath
#

No, you just gotta wait for a minute

cosmic pilot
brittle shuttle
azure heath
#

Most servers have 2 VIP slots so if the server is at 98 players you'll get in instantly

wintry thistle
#

@cosmic pilot

azure heath
#

VIP has never failed me

brittle shuttle
#

i wanna buy VIP for this server to skip the queue thats full 24/7 but that also means the vip queue is constantly overflowing. right now its at 13/2 vip slots

azure heath
#

unless the server is at 100

brittle shuttle
sturdy bridge
#

@sturdy bridge

azure heath
#

I'd just get it, I have VIP and I barely wait

brittle shuttle
#

👍 ty

azure heath
#

which just means two VIPs got in the server before you and no one left

#

you get a week free trial on soul i believe too

analog apex
#

yep, I extremely rarely wait desptie VIP

#

so yeah if you want it, just go for it

azure heath
#

it's great if you only want to play in that respective community

analog apex
#

I don't even remember when I was forced to wait the latest time.

azure heath
#

it happens a decent bit on my servers but it's because all the VIPs pile in at one time

analog apex
#

right, I have to say that I am not usually playing at the peak hours

azure heath
#

but then it's calm most of the day, just like an hour period of waiting maybe a minute for a spot

#

it's usually just chilling at 98 all day

#

VIP is the only reason I play

gleaming pelican
#

Better south america servers, please!

#

I can't play well with 120ms ping.

azure heath
#

Where you from and where's the server?

hybrid sage
#

120 lmao

steady plinth
#

120 is ez bro

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350 is ez

nocturne birch
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Try 500 ping

finite berry
azure heath
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but bro has a right to have at least one server under 100 unless he lives in like tierra de fuego or the falklands

steady plinth
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Falklands gets British ping 🇬🇧

gleaming pelican
steady plinth
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Maybe your net sucks

gleaming pelican
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Nah

finite berry
fluid pawn
nova pivot
finite berry
azure heath
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We the people want new toys to play with, not new playgrounds! (for now)

analog apex
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we just need to find your source code