mess-hall

[finite berry]

No

[plucky mural]

Anyone else having audio issues?!?

[finite berry]

Again, don't play on official servers

[fallen surge]

sheesh, okay then

[past vortex]

no, just you :}
(what issues)

pls read above :D

[river jackal]

Yes, i know,,im saying that when PC has major issues with nobody having mics, asking if console has mic only servers is ridiculous, its gonna be so much worse on console lol (because poors :sick:)

[night lark]

Official servers are unmoderated. Play on community server if you want moderation

[valid palm]

Fair play

[wind shore]

good thing community moderates servers and even pays for them

[river jackal]

Official servers are for tking

[wind shore]

i like them its anarchy

but quality of play is below 0

[past vortex]

:D

[river jackal]

Yeah some servers are awful ||glows, rotn||

[grave coyote]

any servers laggy for you guys? exd 2 was kind of hell right now, couldnt move at all

[cyan saddle]

It's in the communities' interest to not be toxic and keep the games balanced though 🤔

[finite berry]

sounds like a skill issue on your part lol

[finite berry]

Exactly lol

If community-hosted servers were so bad, why is everyone playing there then :D

[past vortex]

quite a few fail tho :}

[wind shore]

ok hehe

[past vortex]

:D

[finite berry]

:D

[cyan saddle]

Not my fault that if I build a single blue garrison the entire enemy team crumbles 🥲

[night lark]

Well cope and seethe i guess if you think all admins are power hungry

[river jackal]

I got banned from a server for something not even offensive in their discord server lol, i asked to see an rgb keyboard

[past vortex]

some totally are

[finite berry]

accuses others of having no life
tries to contact Team 17 due to a cheater

[finite berry]

But that's more like the exception that proves the rule, tho

[past vortex]

yea thats ridiculous

yea

[cyan saddle]

You can reach out to T17 support via #player-support. They too are unable to ban players from official servers however.

[wind shore]

@cyan saddle 🍌

[finite berry]

claims that he doesn't read the messages
(does it anyway)

[night lark]

Not that many and tbh. Its mostly just people whinging they exploited a loophole or actually broke the rules and the admin was over zealous

[finite berry]

hahahaha

[night lark]

Ive done the admin thing before, sometimes its just easier to kick and ban for something because i want to get back to a game 😩

[finite berry]

How many different community-hosted servers are there, approximately?

[wind shore]

have to say official servers are pretty nasty that anti cheat is worth as much as the gameplay on official servers is

ive had my scoreboard messed with

so i couldnt see who killed me most times

[night lark]

Loads. Clans will have multiple servers as well. I actually hardly see official servers on the browser

[wind shore]

i wonder what they pay for that garbage

[night lark]

Circle have 7 servers i think 😂

[finite berry]

That's nice, then. Then I really don't understand why one would submit themself to the torture of playing on official servers when there's so many alternatives to choose from 😄

[fluid pawn]

If they are circumventing EAC, the best thing to do is to report the name / ID of the person cheating along with any proof that you may have.

Have you got the the cheaters names at all so that the support team can see if they've been reported yet?

[night lark]

pOwEr HuNgrY AdMinS

[finite berry]

Still one of the most ridiculous takes I've ever heard on community-hosted servers lol

[past vortex]

there are probably regions that are a bit short on community servers

[finite berry]

Even if you encountered one - just play somewhere else?

Moderation with admin abuse is still better than no moderation at all

[night lark]

Thing with community servers is that cheaters steamIDs get circulated to other clans so you only really find genuine cheaters on official servers with no admins

[finite berry]

Exactly

Because, surprised pikachu, server owners TALK with each other

[past vortex]

are you aware that eac doesnt work unless you have a team that actively maintains it for the game :}

[night lark]

I played a bit last night and there were like 20 full community servers and another 10 a varying population so there is plenty to choose from. And most regions have atleast one community server

[cyan saddle]

Sorry huk but that's not how EAC works and operates 😄

[past vortex]

im sure it does

[finite berry]

But they are all full of power hungry admins. Clearly, that leaves you with the only option of playing on unmoderated official servers

[cyan saddle]

How many times can you repeat the same thing Elise

[past vortex]

how else do you explain the differences in number of cheaters in different games?

with same eac

[cyan saddle]

I think we get it

[night lark]

Its so silly when people complain about catching a ban for rule breaking. Like dont break the rules or be annoying and an admin will never bother you

[finite berry]

Very often as you can see :D

[night lark]

Unless you get reported during the game or an admin literally sees you do it, its really easy to bend and break rules with no punishment as well

[finite berry]

Eh, it depends. There are cases of admins banning without the "offender" actually breaking a rule, but those really are rare exceptions

[past vortex]

it sometimes crazy selective enforcing
have seen people banned for a very mild form of something that almost everyone does on that server
admins have bad days, and some act on it

[cyan saddle]

Different player counts, different incentives to cheat, different server sizes, different demand for cheats and cheat developers...

[night lark]

There probably are but i personally have never been the victim of it.

One of my clan mates has but the admin had some bitter history with our clan and sat watching us for 2 or 3 games in admin cam

[past vortex]

im sure its more complicated

but we both dont have actual information on that

[night lark]

Absaloutly man. I know ive kicked or banned people who started whinging about being admin killed because they were out of bounds or doing something dumb

[cyan saddle]

The basic cheats all get filtered out, and the sophisticated cheats that make it though all use the same fundamental methods and patterns to hook into various games. Epic aggregates everything, identifies these patterns, blacklists them. Then cheat developers modify their signatures and the cycle repeats.

[valid palm]

That said I have never seen a cheater on EU official servers

Yet

[rich bramble]

Hello, I have a question about the marking system in HLL. For example, if I'm the leader in a tank squad and the officer chat says "tank on able mark" where is that? Where can I see who the ping was from? When I open the map, I only see the player's name.

[valid palm]

You'll see a red tank marker on the map with a little A on the top of it

[past vortex]

those who use the free offer sure aint served

[night lark]

You can see it on the map menu or on your hud if you press T. It will have a wee A above it

[cyan saddle]

You don't detect cheats for one game specifically. It is in Epic's interest for as many games to use EAC so that they can collect as much information as possible about what patterns cheats might be using, so that they can update their databases accordingly.

[rich bramble]

so if the mark is from how squad then there is an H?

[valid palm]

Yes

[rich bramble]

ohh okay thx

[small sleet]

Him I'm new here, I came to report 2 cheaters that are unbanable, can someone help? I'm with them right now

[past vortex]

since they totally lost the ability to detect the HW cheats they DO have to detect particular cheats
thats what the AI offer refers to

[valid palm]

Tell us their username

[finite berry]

On official servers?

[past vortex]

he is with cheaters :O

[finite berry]

That's the third one today :D

[small sleet]

Codekkl and the other one has a korean name can't write it

[small sleet]

Yes EU serv

[finite berry]

You can report them to Team 17

[split hamlet]

about that.. I always try to specify the area to make it easier for people to find it and not have to search whole map, so when I mark something I call out on radio something like this:

• Intrantry on Able marker in Echo 4
• Tank on Baker marker in Charlie 5
• Enemy garrison on Able marker west of defence point
• Enemy airhead on the north border in Baker 2

Something like that, easier for the team to find the location of marker faster hopefully

[finite berry]

But as a general rule of thumb, forget it

Official servers are unmoderated

[small sleet]

Fudge...

[finite berry]

Play on community-hosted ones

[small sleet]

Thank you for the info!

[past vortex]

you see the letter of their squad and can identify their mark on the map

[night lark]

I give Letter and 3 digits and it confuses tf outta people who have never used a map before. Its funny

Also need to specify number pad

[valid palm]

Anyone who play WT in here?

[finite berry]

Let's hope as few people as possible fell victim to the snail :')

[split hamlet]

Thats why I enjoy this game, always something new to learn, I knew nothing when I was new and I was mute very long time because I did not want to sound stupid, but learned over time how it works and then started to be more active on radio and enjoy it

[winged zenith]

Can we have an admin take one quick look at europe #05? it's completely invested with hackers rn

Kicking them doesn't work, they just immediately rejoin

[analog apex]

there are no any kind of admins or mods overlooking the official (nonCommunity hosted) servers, the official servers are just wild west without a law

[winged zenith]

I'm sure there's some Team17 member that can permaneently remove these cheaters from the game, no?

[analog apex]

no, they don't pay anybody to do that, hence nobody is doing it

hence they don't care

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-meme-aardman-the-pirates-pirate-gif-26563702

[winged zenith]

Is there no official way in reporting these people?

[finite berry]

Just don't play there

[finite berry]

No

[analog apex]

not really

[past vortex]

sadly most peaople dont have a numpad anymore and only know phones keys

[finite berry]

At least no reliable way

[past vortex]

you really need to specify what numpad or it will be wrong most of the time :D

[worthy charm]

https://support.team17.com/hell-let-loose/en/articles/316972-reporting-a-player-on-hell-let-loose

[empty steppe]

Pay thunder? 😭🤣

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/peak-warthunder-gameplay-gif-2516662938806548976

[analog apex]

if you want to have the means of reporting the suspicious/verified cheaters or TKers etc., you better avoid the official servers and play only on the community hosted ones that have admins you can call

[worthy charm]

Nah, thats World of Tank

or World of Warships

[empty steppe]

Eeeeeh

[finite berry]

It's all three

[empty steppe]

War thunder too 🤣

[worthy charm]

or even the worst of them all: World of Warplanes

[molten quartz]

Is it possible to transfer progress from epic games to a steam account?

[analog apex]

no, it isn't

[past vortex]

you can use the epic account with the steam version tho

[analog apex]

it doesn't use the EPIC's HLL progress though

[past vortex]

what
what is it for then :D

[analog apex]

no idea 😄

[past vortex]

lol

[analog apex]

but I have linked EPIC account right now, I am still on my original Steam HLL LVL (500)

[past vortex]

bob_15_svk

[analog apex]

don't you insult me! 😄

[past vortex]

its a bit annoying

i mean if its straight 500 yk that you cant say how long they have played
but it reminds you that you also cant trust the other levels

[empty steppe]

Or EVEN world of horse

[past vortex]

world of warhorse?

[empty steppe]

World of tanks but your on horses and joisting

And you can pay for premium horses 😉

With rocket launchers

[analog apex]

I play from Steam and I am considered still as Steam player by the game still. I just meant the linking didn't do any difference.

[valid palm]

Warthunder gives you realistic emotional damage

Word of tanks gives you arcady emotional damage

[analog apex]

not EPIC

[worthy charm]

Abenteuer auf dem Reiterhof frfr

[valid palm]

Heard their adding infantry next

(not a joke)

[empty steppe]

That’s crazy

[empty steppe]

“Pulls out google translate”

[worthy charm]

Deeple is way better

[empty steppe]

Me… no… speako… French…

[worthy charm]

(not a product placement)

[worthy charm]

ah ah la baguett

lö fromage

[empty steppe]

Wii Wii baguette 🥖

hau hau hau

What am I doing with my life 😭

[past vortex]

work for an hour now and then :}

[worthy charm]

:}

[past vortex]

how long til you get the job application training?

[worthy charm]

Never

[past vortex]

:O why

[worthy charm]

Im going to start to study in September as if Im gonna do anything else until then.😅

[empty steppe]

😭

I need money

[past vortex]

what are you going for? regular uni?

[worthy charm]

BWL

not an uni just an Fachhochschule

[past vortex]

nice

[empty steppe]

Willes you should go make nukes

I mean… nuclear power

[worthy charm]

Germany with nukes, thats gotta be the worst joke in history.

[past vortex]

we are not far from it tho

[worthy charm]

I guess the polish gonna fight back this time tho

[empty steppe]

Polish gonna steam roll Germany and turn facist

[worthy charm]

As if they would actually make them, I dont believe it until I see it

[past vortex]

turn?

[past vortex]

its crazy expensive so we will try to avoid it but its certainly on the table

[empty steppe]

Little does he know the reich dug a huge bunker system under ground and has just been waiting to emerge 🌚

Forget Argentina 🤣

[lavish valve]

Has anyone been experiencing high ping recently on dedicated servers?

[past vortex]

cant say that changed

[lavish valve]

What do you mean

[past vortex]

ping was always high

[lavish valve]

Ah okay, I’ve never had issues before I think it may be the new update we recently had that’s affecting it, either that or it’s dedicated server side issues

[past vortex]

or something with your pc

the in game "ping" is more of a latency so it can be affected by your cpu

[empty steppe]

Also internet 🛜

[lavish valve]

Checked my internet, internet is fine

[past vortex]

ofc its also possible that some specific servers have issues

[lavish valve]

No other games have had issues

It’s just he’ll let loose lol

Hell*

[empty steppe]

Odd

[past vortex]

nice typo

[empty steppe]

@lavish valve what’s your specs?

[lavish valve]

I’m on Xbox

Never had ping issues before

[empty steppe]

Oh oh

Hmmmmm

In server browser does it just show every server no matter what on high ping?

[lavish valve]

No

Although there are other players with higher ping than mine playing on the server also

I think it’s server side issues, hopefully it resolves soon, I currently sit at around 80-100 ping wise so

When usually I sit at 30-50

[rigid crystal]

Hi, i played the game a while back and there were a huge ton of official servers. Now i only see 2 or 3 from my region what happend ?

[jade dune]

Community servers are where it’s at big dog

[past vortex]

they opened a lot of servers for the epic giveaway, they prob took many down now

[wind shore]

Yo

Can I get access to post clan ads? I got them removed because I accidentally posted twice since my internet was bugging and it wasn’t showing it posted originally. <@&365680483276816385>

[gentle lintel]

You will have to wait out the time frame given, I'm afraid to say

[wind shore]

I really wish I’d get to be the Soviet Union in a match but the only two maps that I’ve been getting forced in is Carentan or the desert

[pine ember]

We simply need more Soviet maps

[wind shore]

No we don’t need. We need US maps.

[pine ember]

Especially maps in Ukraine in 1943 could be really good since it was the focus of fighting, and there are many possibilities for map settings, ranging from fields, forests, urban,...

[wind shore]

Normandy

[pine ember]

Please not

We have way too much of them

[analog apex]

Subjectively I would say "yes more pls!", but objectively I have to say the game doesn't need any more US Normandy maps.

**British **Normandy maps, there I would say **yes **even objectively though.

[pine ember]

Only maps with US forces in them that would be appreciated would be Italy or North Africa maps

[analog apex]

Or Pacific, which I however don't care about at all subjectively.

• would be large undertaking.

[pine ember]

Yea same. I dont even care that much about the western front except Hürtgen and Ardennes, I'm more of an Eastern front or North Africa guy

Or Finland

[analog apex]

I care only about the western front and there I care only/mostly about the Normandy. My secondaries are Battle of the Bulge and Germany. Nothing else is interesting for my personal taste.

And that's why I would love to see some British Normandy maps (or even some of BotB of theirs too).

[silk igloo]

heretic

[pine ember]

Normandy is pretty interesting too

[analog apex]

Villers Bocage, Pegasus Bridge and some British D-day beach, ... maybe Caen

and then, some more 3-4 British maps for the Op. Market Garden - plenty of inspiration of its main locations we could draw from SQ44 (Oosterbeek, Heelsum, Arnhem...)

+1-2 winter map(s) out of British perspective of Battle of the Bulge (for instance Battle of Bure, and some fight from the British liberating La Roche and other villages along the Outhre river)

[nova pivot]

Caen its a must

[pine ember]

Dont forget new African maps

[cosmic pilot]

No, we need more Russian maps

We need Eastern front load outs rework

[pine ember]

Yep

Earlier equipment and uniforms for the Germans

[nova pivot]

Could you give an example?

[pine ember]

Gazala, Kasserine, Tunisia, another El Alamein map,...

[nova pivot]

I was thinking about Kasserine

[pine ember]

Basically anything that isnt French fields would highly be appreciated

[wind shore]

Are those maps set in flat desert?

[silk igloo]

i hope so

we've never had a map where infantry engagement starts at 500 meters, and we ought to try it

just need a few dips for tanks and it'd work great

[pine ember]

Even if, what would be the problem?

The African theatre is much more than just flat desert

[pine ember]

Oh yea

[cosmic pilot]

El Alamein: am I a joke to you?

[silk igloo]

the current el alamein is an MG heaven because of the hills. take those away and the MGs on a flat desert cant see squat

[cosmic pilot]

The point is the infantry engagements start at 500m

Even Kursk, technically speaking the engagements start at 300m

[silk igloo]

the real problem is that spawnpoints stand much taller than a crawling person, and everyone spawns in standing

[hot talon]

Ah yes, walking simulator the game or everything is exploding.

[empty steppe]

My two musts for the future on the western front would have to be Arnhem and st vith

St vith would be a perfect map to round out the battle of the bulge saga

[wind shore]

It is not fun for you first, you said before

Flat it’s the problem. And whole area is flat desert in North Africa

So it would be not 1:1 map at all, next map in North Africa

[river jackal]

Bulge 😳

[empty steppe]

I have a feeling we aren’t going to see much North Africa for a while

[river jackal]

El alamein is a fun tank map

Ive always had amazing tank games on it

[sick wyvern]

eh to me tobruk is awesome but i dont see it as much anymore, but i dont really like el alamein

[sick wyvern]

everything other than playing sniper and tank isnt fun to me on that map

[river jackal]

Tobruk is awesome

[empty steppe]

Yeah, I think just everything to be gotten out of that front is there

[river jackal]

Infantry is rough yeah

[empty steppe]

Now… Crete 😉

Not Africa buuuuuut

[sick wyvern]

exactly

[sick wyvern]

eh i doubt that if they cant make polish uniforms in time for the post map that there will be crete

[empty steppe]

I’d take a sick sea side operation mars

[wind shore]

So there is no maps in North Africa seems like except Tobruk

No more maps

[river jackal]

Pls let us jump out of planes like irl with the Fallschirmjäger

[sick wyvern]

id like them to maybe add a skirmish map in soviets but like a courtyard of a lot of buildings y'know, i always had a thrill running and clearing the buildings as soviet with a ppsh

[sick wyvern]

tobruk 2!

[pine ember]

No I didn’t

[wind shore]

Other maps would be flat

[river jackal]

Yeah the north africa campaign was back and forth until the british won

[pine ember]

That’s false and a Common misconception

[wind shore]

Approve my point

[sick wyvern]

i mean polish front would be cool to me, it could have both germans vs poles and soviets vs poles

[sick wyvern]

and it seems much more realistic and available to make than japan

[wind shore]

You have no evidence for another point that it’s not flat, cause it’s flat

[pine ember]

?

[pine ember]

There is plenty of evidence online…

[river jackal]

I think something in Italy would be a good map

[wind shore]

How do you imagine new maps for North Africa and which maps

[sick wyvern]

i just googled and found at least 5 battles in mountains/chokepoints

[sick wyvern]

Monte Cassino?

[wind shore]

Which ones

[sick wyvern]

Kasserine pass

[wind shore]

It’s only 1

[river jackal]

That, Operation Husky

[pine ember]

Just google yourself

[wind shore]

No I don’t, I have no time for it

[pine ember]

So do I

[sick wyvern]

No, its just 2 thats known and the rest were pretty interesting just not popular as others

[wind shore]

So it’s not my idea 🤷🏼‍♂️

[pine ember]

Ok, so what?

[wind shore]

Madagascar operation it’s mix of African map and Pacific - cause Japan and Vichy France are participants of this battle

[sick wyvern]

Eh i doubt anything outside of europe will be added in the future

[wind shore]

So I don’t care much about it. Cause I already now - North Africa has no more possibilities for map like Tobruk

[pine ember]

There Never were japanese on or near Madagascar

[pine ember]

It does not always have to be urban…

This isn’t COD

[sick wyvern]

there actually were

[cosmic pilot]

Whatever you say boss

[empty steppe]

Hehehe

[pine ember]

No

It was British versus French

[river jackal]

Right into a bunch of mgs

[wind shore]

It was Japanese in wiki

And France

[pine ember]

Japanese were barely present (only Naval) and on the side of the French

[wind shore]

They fought in Madagascar

[sick wyvern]

no man, they only did naval combat

so not in madagascar but around it

[pine ember]

That means a hell let loose map isn’t possible there

[sick wyvern]

i highly doubt there will be anything outside of Europe since they have trouble with polish uniforms for post office

[pine ember]

North africa isn’t Europe

The Post Office map was only a Test, it wasn’t meant to be with accurate uniforms

[worthy charm]

We currently dont even know if they ever release Danzig

Its was only a PTE for the new gamemode, so the devs can have some feedback and we can have fun.

I shall point to #1369177126279839827 message once more

[pine ember]

Danzig won’t make it into the game most likely, atleast in the near future

[wind shore]

It could be Grodno map

For Polish faction

• unique DLC with Polish

[pine ember]

Please no DLC

And better something like Tuchola forest

[wind shore]

Polish campaign was not so wide or long, + balance. Game could introduce different nations to other factions

[worthy charm]

Do I need to get the club? xD

The faction talks beginn so im gonna be ready for the counter reset

[pine ember]

No, each faction should be an individual one

Or how do you imagine it else??

[wind shore]

It’s not possible

[nova pivot]

Japan would be nice

[wind shore]

Reset counter , we’ve mentioned pacific before)

[nova pivot]

Iwo Jima, Philippines, Guam

[wind shore]

Madagascar already mentioned it’s pacific

[nova pivot]

No

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/whyyy-nooo-frustrated-tantrums-disappointed-gif-20999473

[pine ember]

How?? It totally is

[nova pivot]

Ups 🫢

[wind shore]

1 thing - balance

[pine ember]

Do you imagine Polish with StGs then or what?

Please explain

[worthy charm]

I hope your pillow will be hot tonight...😒

[wind shore]

So polish tanks were not possible to introduce in system : heavy medium light, cause no heavies

[cosmic pilot]

Heavies are over rated

[wind shore]

No planes for Polish

[pine ember]

And? Should they then get a Tiger?

[nova pivot]

I assure you it will be, I hate the Mediterranean climate in summer

[pine ember]

Btw the Soviets also barely had heavies in 1939

Most were BT and T26

[wind shore]

It should be a lot of or different vehicles types vs 1 medium tank

[pine ember]

I dont understand

[worthy charm]

One day the recons tanks will be buffed and then no heavy shall be save!

[pine ember]

Just make every faction individual, and maybe think of reworking the armor system or disable heavies for certain maps

[wind shore]

And simply all current factions have everything and polish are already present on Driel map, it could be stick on other maps

[pine ember]

That would make each map so much more interesting

[cosmic pilot]

Real 🙏

[wind shore]

Or be Army Krajowa or Warsaw 1944 map, where it would be more balanced

[pine ember]

Polish in 1939 with Sten guns and SMLE No. 4s? Bye historical accuracy

[pine ember]

That isnt balanced

[wind shore]

What you will give for balance for 1939 load out?

[wind shore]

And which tanks? Planes?

[nova pivot]

The only unbalanced sector is the tanks

They are good in armament

[pine ember]

No equipment they didnt had

[nova pivot]

Swap the rocket launcher for an anti-tank rifle and that's it.

[pine ember]

Even that is somewhat balanced, and you could simply disable tanks. That would make the game so much more interesting

[wind shore]

That’s the problem, Germans had a lot of motorized infantry and tanks

Planes etc

How do you imagine fight with out tanks

[nova pivot]

Planes not represented deply in the game

[pine ember]

We were talking about the soviets...

[wind shore]

What would do tanks etc

[pine ember]

That is a myth, most units werent motorized

[real parrot]

Honestly half tracks being spawn points and as expensive as 2 medium tank is enough wack for me

[wind shore]

They had tanks, in 1939

[pine ember]

Its simple, mostly light tanks

[real parrot]

They had a lot of tankets

[pine ember]

But mostly only light, as did the Germans

[wind shore]

Why did you switch topic if we talk about faction which wasn’t added still

[pine ember]

Anyways, in 1939-42 tank fighting wasnt as common as in 1943-44 which is considered the peak in tank warfare

[pine ember]

You wanted a USSR vs Poland map...

[wind shore]

Cause in Grodno soviets had tank regiment which fought in battle

[pine ember]

Yes, but I think maps where only infantry is accurate would be much better

Maybe with a few light tanks

[wind shore]

On September 20, by one o'clock in the afternoon, a mobile detachment of the 27th Light Tank Brigade, consisting of 50 tanks, approached the southern outskirts of Grodno. The tankers immediately attacked the enemy. The first to storm Grodno was the reconnaissance battalion of the 27th Light Tank Brigade, consisting of 12 tanks and one armored car. A little later, it was joined by a combined detachment: the 1st (17 tanks) and 2nd (19 tanks) tank battalions. By 7 o'clock in the evening, two battalions of the 119th Rifle Regiment approached the city. By evening, the attackers occupied the southern part of the city, reaching the bank of the Neman. The bridges across the Neman were dismantled.

[pine ember]

If Poland 1939 gets represented I think most people would prefer to fight against the Germans

[wind shore]

Ok but again, you haven’t answered

[past vortex]

why not both

[wind shore]

Which tanks etc

[pine ember]

How should I answer on that??

[wind shore]

Which tanks were etc and balance were

[pine ember]

Polish 7TP, German Panzer I and II, Soviet BT and T26

Or simply no tanks

[wind shore]

Ok then, in Cupola forest etc

Why 1939 if 1944 would be more balanced

We can’t get 1941 maps still cause balance

[past vortex]

TKS !!!

[pine ember]

How do you imagine a Polish Army in 1944?

[past vortex]

as buildable for medics

[pine ember]

It didnt exist

[wind shore]

And no planes would be, polish faction have to use supply trucks then and no planes

[pine ember]

I wouldnt certainly say so

[pine ember]

There are no planes in the games

[wind shore]

Ok but supplies would be delivered by trucks only

[pine ember]

No

[oak current]

HLL adding alternate History Options to their map/faction pool

[pine ember]

Polish also had planes

[pine ember]

Please XDD

[oak current]

Oh, Its the G47!

[wind shore]

I’m not against accurate map with asymmetrical balance, but others would complain as usual if something would be unbalanced

[oak current]

eh people complain either way about stuff

some are only here to complain

[wind shore]

See what’s with Remagen and other things

[pine ember]

These settings arent unbalanced if it is done correctly

[oak current]

and stopped playing years ago

[wind shore]

I also was not against flat desert maps

[real parrot]

One thing I like about hll is the balance, the game is already on Life support, seems like a risky decision

[pine ember]

I know who you mean XDD

[wind shore]

Yes so would be possible it’s seems like Italy maybe

Cause first it’s balanced, 2nd - maps looks cool

African maps seems took all their abilities on El Alamein and Tobruk maps

[pine ember]

Italy is mountainous, so that would be hell to fight uphill

The game first should flesh out the current content

[wind shore]

It wouldn’t

[past vortex]

all new content will be meh

unless they adress the actual problems

[pine ember]

Hah

Just give us more British maps in Holland and North Africa, and more Eastern Front

[past vortex]

i would love to see sharks on PHL tho

[pine ember]

And rework the faults of the game

[wind shore]

No more new maps!

[pine ember]

That would also be a way until the mechanics are fully fixed

[worthy charm]

Whaaaaaaaat, no way... we arent one reddit arent we?

[wind shore]

No more mechanics

[oak current]

I actually have been active on reddit since yesterday.
In a Horror-Podcast subredit 😄

[wind shore]

We don’t need new mechanics at all

[pine ember]

That would kill the game

[pine ember]

Many are needed

[oak current]

I mean the tank commander and both crewmen can be Mechanics
Thats enough mechanics

[wind shore]

Actually what we need is new weapon - PPD

[pine ember]

What would that add?

[worthy charm]

Reworks for what we got would be nice and is neccesary in my opinion. Especially when it comes to nodes and arty.

Im not even sure what kinds of new mechanics they could add that wouldnt be either useless or more a kind of decoration...

[finite berry]

no

[worthy charm]

My favorite examaple would be hatches on tanks. 😅

[pine ember]

Armor and class/loadout rework would also be great

[wind shore]

I really would like to leave you alone with this one. If you have claustrophobic when you can’t open the hatchet

On tank it’s claustrophobic

🕷️

I want became a spider

[past vortex]

what if the medics would be mechanics too

[oak current]

medchanics

[past vortex]

mechadnics

[cosmic pilot]

Ah, we're schizoposting today?

[silk igloo]

just splice every map in two, bang, you got +200% more maps

[exotic urchin]

Whatever happen to the hell let loose campaign, I feel there’s some gameplay out there waiting for me to play it. Sigh

[slate canopy]

huh?

[oak current]

maybe he means the "Campaign" mode that was an idea of BlackMatter

which had so many problems in its concept

[past vortex]

no you would have to split them in 3 for that :D

[cosmic pilot]

Hll players will hate this one simple trick

[cosmic pilot]

This is correct

[worthy charm]

Im honestly happy they never did that. I cant imagine it being worth the work and time.

[oak current]

base concept just was flawed.

the idea that people would play a full round, keep their ressources and then play another one.
The longer you stay, the more XP you get, but if you waste ressources, you get less

so if one side wins...it gets even more ressources in the next round, while the loosing side would get less

nothing better than to start with 0 Ressources as the loosing team

[worthy charm]

Thats... far worse than what I remember.😅

[oak current]

I mean if they had flipped that concept, that the loosing team afterwards gets a bonus...
but then again...with the next round, you might have very different teams than before

[silk igloo]

no, you split each map in two and you got three maps now. Carentan, carentan left, carentan right.

[nova pivot]

Why don't we separate each point and make 15 maps?

[river jackal]

AH! theres a German!

oh wait, they aint scary, 0/2 in world wars lol

[worthy charm]

Im germany we would say: "Alle guten Dinge sind 3"

[river jackal]

if only you guys won a world war, maybe id be able to understand what you just said lol

[worthy charm]

As if that would have helped...😅

[river jackal]

I mean thats why we had to teach you guys a lesson twice right? cause German world domination?

[nova pivot]

Who is exactly we?

[worthy charm]

Naaaah ww1 wasnt bad like this. It was way more stupid than that.

[silk igloo]

y'all bullied german americans out of their language before ww1 was even over

[wintry thistle]

If anything the allied powers were fighting for world domination, since they already dominated the world

[worthy charm]

Americans thinking they won alone.😅
/s

[river jackal]

Septemberprogram?

[river jackal]

im Canadian you RACIST

[slate canopy]

U-S-A 🦅

[silk igloo]

you cant be canadian because canada isnt a real country

[worthy charm]

You were just waiting?😂

[slate canopy]

🤭 Nah, just had to take the opportunity. I KNOW it wasn't just USA.

[wintry thistle]

How is that world domination

[nova pivot]

I didn't want to say it directly so as not to start the fire myself. Thanks for saying it, Willes ❤️🫵🫂

[river jackal]

it'd give the Germans economic military and political domination over Europe, plus with Mittelafrika, that is just a formula for superpower status, plus Germany was revolutionary at that time in the sciences

[worthy charm]

Ahhh a man of culture. Even though its funny to me how germany is known for this one weird Event.

[wintry thistle]

And what is Germany going to do about America and Britain

[silk igloo]

how is that different from today

[wintry thistle]

Just like at post WW1 and WW2

Germany in WW1 was more so fighting for their place in the sun

Not exactly world domination

But a major player on the world stage

[river jackal]

more naval buildup to rival the UK? the Kaiserliche Marine was half decent

[wintry thistle]

That’s up to anybody

You can’t say with certainty Germany was hellbent on destroying the UK

[worthy charm]

I gotta say it the Bundeswehr is a huge joke. Not even to start about the jokes over their political orientation I could make.

[wintry thistle]

Versailles tried to cull the power of Germany in Europe and successfully abroad

Allowing the west full dominance of the world and Europe

[river jackal]

Wilhelm 2 was not very fond of the British

[wintry thistle]

WW1 was every single European power fighting for dominance

Every side wanted to clobber the other side hard enough that they would never be a threat

Germany isn’t unique in their designs in this regard

Their geography is unique

France and Britain already owned all of their colonies

[cosmic pilot]

Um, this is mess hall
Not WW2 history

Is no place sacred

[wintry thistle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/893006408134565912/1094323338521886831/caption-6-1.gif

[river jackal]

we're not talking WW2 lol

[cosmic pilot]

Lmao

This gif will never not get me

[past vortex]

1*2=?

[river jackal]

i think its more like full map, then 2 half maps, it a stupid af idea, its basically skirmish he wants

[past vortex]

yea thats +100% map :}

[silk igloo]

i just worded it wrong. you split each map without removing the original. +200%. you nit.

[past vortex]

still +100 tho

[silk igloo]

what

[past vortex]

2 instead of 1 is +100%

[silk igloo]

two more carentans would be +200% more carentans

[past vortex]

yes

[cosmic pilot]

If 1 is 100%, 2 is 200%
or 100% + 100%

[past vortex]

yes

[silk igloo]

+200% more maps OR 300% maps, either way

[past vortex]

for +200% you need 3 when you start with 1

[cosmic pilot]

Remove the plus sign

[gentle lintel]

I think you have the Pythagorean theorem wrong

[analog apex]

I agree, but that would be another US vs GER map. I was listing maps for the British. 😉

[empty steppe]

Okay? 😂

I said Arnhem too, and when I went into st vith It wasnt a reply on that thread haha

[analog apex]

Discord says it was 😜

[empty steppe]

This was the reply

[analog apex]

but yeah, that aside, yep St. Vith would be nice to have

[empty steppe]

Someday 😢

[analog apex]

the question is, if the game needs it though

The US already have the most maps of all.

[empty steppe]

Well… I think a good winter urban map should def be in their sights soon, but we need better focus on other fronts

[analog apex]

yep, so... maybe in 8+ years 😄
with the pace of mapMaking so far 🥶

seems it's still just 2 maps per year

[empty steppe]

lol the game ain’t lasting that long 🤣

[bitter notch]

Stuck in redeploy on xbox right now... love that this is still a thing

[empty steppe]

We cooked

[analog apex]

yeah, something tells me the same

[empty steppe]

Well atleast they will give us Berlin they said

[analog apex]

HLL missed its train and potential. The devs waking up just now is... pretty late. No matter how good or bad the newest updates are.

[empty steppe]

I think we are gonna get Russian stuff, Berlin… than the game will fade

like 2ish years at most 😵‍💫

[analog apex]

I would say 3-4 years. But who knows... maybe it could still be played in a zombie-like state even afterwards (like SQ44 is).

[empty steppe]

Let’s hope 😂

[empty steppe]

Love when that happens

[bitter notch]

Great... got kicked for inactivity because I couldn't deploy...

Bye bye xp

[analog apex]

So glad I am not on console.

[bitter notch]

Actual joke that this still happens

[analog apex]

...but we have a fair share of bad unfixed (despite reported) HLL bugs on PC too.

[finite berry]

Disagree to be honest

[bitter notch]

Surely the devs are aware of this bug right?

[finite berry]

HLL is too easy to get into and too appealing to get abandoned by players anytime soon

[finite berry]

Make a bug report for good measure

[analog apex]

they don't seem to play their own game so they can't noptice them by themselves, and when it comes to bugFixing, they haven't been fixing any much of the critical stuff I ever reported (like the supply drop not being rendered and not usable, people spawning even after spawnpoint gets disabled/destroyed, the being locked on deployment screen until the next spawnWave spawns...)
so... meh

[empty steppe]

But how long will dev support last before it’s not profitable?

[finite berry]

Several more years at least

[empty steppe]

I can’t see support going further than 4 years

[finite berry]

And why's that?

[bitter notch]

I miss black matter

[finite berry]

HLL makes good money from what I can see

[finite berry]

Don't

[empty steppe]

Player counts have dropped immensely lately

[analog apex]

We just got under 4000 (Steam) players today, will keep watching the numbers development.

[bitter notch]

All I want is more theatres... like Italy and the Pacific. More soviet stuff too, UK D-Day beaches, Dunkirk

[finite berry]

That's not too bad, tho?

[empty steppe]

It isn’t, but it’s still a downward movement 😢

[finite berry]

4,000 compared to what?

[bitter notch]

Maybe in HLL2

[analog apex]

not too bad true, but it is already being felt by some communities that the seeding is getting harder

[finite berry]

Not too bad, see, so why the pessimism :D

Harder means it's still possible

[analog apex]

yep.... but harder 😄

[empty steppe]

Tbh… I wouldn’t be surprised

That launch would be a disaster 😂

Not anytime soon tho

[bitter notch]

Would also kill for a Pointe du Hoc level... but they'd have to implement climbing ladders and ropes

[analog apex]

If instead of making HLL 2 they would decide to upgrade UE to UE5 and add modding support, HLL's life could be infinite.

[bitter notch]

On PC aye

[finite berry]

UE5 is overrated

[empty steppe]

The saving grace for every game 🫡

[empty steppe]

But it’s newer 😅

[analog apex]

not rly... look what it did to Squad

it used to be overrated, but not anymore

now it's becoming the standard

[finite berry]

Modding for PC, yes, but console?

[empty steppe]

Hell let loose needs a full recode almost to achieve anything in the future

[finite berry]

Naaaah

[empty steppe]

Especially for modding 😅

[analog apex]

F consoles 😄
seriously though, HLL was never supposed to be a console game. The devs doing it was the worst mistake that also slowed down the development (no matter that the devs said it wouldn't).

so I wouldn't care about consoles not having that opportunity

[bitter notch]

It's popular on console though

[empty steppe]

Every which way I look at it, there is a very slim chance this game gets its ducks in a row for future success 😅

[bitter notch]

Like I played it originally on pc too, but its more fun on console tbh

[analog apex]

...and not making modding tools (hypothetically) just because it wouldnt' be fair to consoles, would be bad. PC players don't need to care about that.

[empty steppe]

Hell divers style intervention is needed haha

[bitter notch]

Would be the need

Get it away from T17

[empty steppe]

Tbh the only thing I think holding them back is the crap that black matter coded 😅

The foundation is what is screwed, I mean they’ve even said this themselves

[finite berry]

You'd essentially divide the community and deny half of it access to modded servers.

[analog apex]

which is exactly thing that PC players don't need to care about. And modding tools would benefit the game. Consoles wouldn't have much valid arguments against any of it other than.... "they will have it and we won't"

[empty steppe]

They told us they can’t add new weapons because they literally can’t code them right 😭

[bitter notch]

They're probably focusing on HLL2 then... thats what I'd do if the original code is so hard to develop

[finite berry]

Ah right, crossplay wasn't a thing anyway

[empty steppe]

Under our noses the whole time 🫨

Funny joke

[finite berry]

BIG doubt right there

[bitter notch]

HLL: Vietnam

[analog apex]

hopefully not

[empty steppe]

I’d be down 😂

[finite berry]

What I'd do if I was T17 is add some more content and lots of DLCs to this game while ignoring the broken code

[bitter notch]

HLL: THE GREAT WAR

[empty steppe]

Rising storm 2 will always have a place in my heart ❤️

[analog apex]

still waiting for a proper clean WWII game... like HLL1 but clear of bugs and without illogical stuffs

or stupid mechanics

[empty steppe]

🤔

[bitter notch]

Vietnam games go hard

[analog apex]

anyway, gtg. see ya later guys

[empty steppe]

Night sam, sleep tight 😴

[finite berry]

See you

[empty steppe]

And with that… I’ll be heading to bed too

[analog apex]

it's morning, I gotta work 😄

but thanks 🙂

[empty steppe]

Mb cus

I’m too tired to process timezones

[empty steppe]

Have fun 🤩

[river jackal]

HLL currently can run on a potato PC decently well, in UE5, it'd require some non potato stuff

but yeah, mod tools make any game better

[wind shore]

he looks like he’s gonna flatline himself

[wind shore]

How come the only maps I get are just El Alamein or Carentan?

[dapper sparrow]

Played a bit of Battlefield 1 the other day and realised why HLL in 2019 was such a good value proposition. Unfortunately now it's just basically the same with people running and gunning.

[pine ember]

Sadly that’s right

We need to get HLL more into this 2019/2020 or maybe even 2021 direction

[dapper sparrow]

I doubt this will happen, T17 are trying to wring out as much money as they can before ditching it.

[analog apex]

It can run yeah. The question is however, how exactly does it run, at least for the majority of the people - I have had a high end PC and ever since P14.3, and yet I have had a terrible stuttering present in all my HLL gameplays. Every few seconds, gets me killed more often than it doesn't.

[wind shore]

Why you asking for content so, it could be stop with out updates rn

So updates should be continue like Tobruk etc, it’s changes nothing

[real parrot]

You should give me your pc so I can test It out for you

[analog apex]

Wouldn't do much, after the stuttering started to be a "normal/usual" thing, I tried HLL on 3 PCs with different spec. Stutter was present on all of them. And as I said million times in the past, not even trying it on a fresh Windows installation helped either.

[real parrot]

No, no, just gimme your PC

[analog apex]

HLL seems to like just a very small selection of PC HW setups.

[analog apex]

😵‍💫 ❔

[pine ember]

Is that asking for content when I ask for reworks?

[pine ember]

That’s just sad

[wind shore]

Why reworks. Only armour system needs it

[analog apex]

far from the truth, many systems could use a major overhaul

[pine ember]

That is false

[analog apex]

starting with progression/loadout system, through resource/node system, to gunplay and beyond

[pine ember]

Infantry too, the game should more become like it has been in 2020

[wind shore]

What’s wrong with gunplay

[analog apex]

what gunplay xD

I hope that said it all.

[pine ember]

This isn’t COD

[wind shore]

Yes that’s right

[pine ember]

Gunplay should be deeper

[wind shore]

It’s fine

[wind shore]

How

Personal damage system for each weapons etc?

[pine ember]

It could be better

[wind shore]

How

[analog apex]

maybe starting with not being able to land 5cm accurate repeated shots on 400-500 meters

[pine ember]

But mainly the loadouts have to be reworked

[pine ember]

Calibers should matter too

And we need subfactions

It makes no sense for a regular Wehrmacht soldier to field a FG42

[analog apex]

and suppression imo should cause not having ADS zoom (in the worst case of suppression) or get FOV even wider - to make sure the suppressed player can't shoot those super accurate shots on large distances.

[wind shore]

It should not be zoom at all

[analog apex]

that could be debatable but I would be able to image dynamic FOV being a part of the suppression system

[storm stratus]

Weapons are far too accurate as Sam said.

[orchid cape]

nah keep zoom zoom gud

[wind shore]

On hot key caps lock or whatever

[analog apex]

and they are accurate mostly because of that strong ADS zoom (everybody can be basically a sniper in HLL). The rest of the guilt falls on no any unbcontrollable sway that would make the gun to fire NOT always to the middle of the screen while ADSing. It could be very subtle - to not affect the accuracy on ~150 meters, but affect it visibly beyond.

[wind shore]

Yes it’s also unrealistic

On caps lock or other hot key

[analog apex]

it's a part that would need to be done though, you can't make it realistic in a game where a player doesn't fear of getting killed and risks too much

[storm stratus]

I already fear dying. Haha

Its a running sim punishment enough

[analog apex]

maybe the dynamic suppression FOV or sway would not be fully realistic, but would be pretty fair and balanced for the fact we are not fighting in real life here

[wind shore]

Ok , and what’s wrong if he has FG42

[pine ember]

It isn’t accurate

[analog apex]

there needs to be SOMEthing done, and there are not many other areas of the game that could be touched to achieve the guns not being that accurate or not being that accurate at least when suppressed

[storm stratus]

I find it very accurate.

[wind shore]

Zoom is also in accurate

[pine ember]

That’s not the point

Only a Fallschirmjäger would use it

[wind shore]

isn’t that a paratrooper gun

It’s game, we don’t have paratroopers mechanics

[pine ember]

It is, but some people dont get that

[wind shore]

Take your skin of paratrooper and use it

[analog apex]

yep, this is a topic for the progression/loadout problem that could use a major overhaul, maybe via the subfactions

[pine ember]

German Fallschirmjägers didn’t drop mostly since 1941 and fought on the ground

[pine ember]

No

[analog apex]

yeah, in winter or maps where paratroopers were not present at all you mean 🥶

[wind shore]

We don’t have paratroopers mechanics, with subfaction should go for US and German sides, both. With 101st and 82AB and paratroopers mechanics. With M1A1 and Fallsmjagers etc

[pine ember]

Subfactions is the key

[wind shore]

And they should land most l from the plane

[pine ember]

Not certainly, we do not need drop mechanics. They could just replace the regular infantry on those maps

[storm stratus]

Can vehicles please be 5% faster.

[analog apex]

German paratroopers were already there though for example in Carentan, they didn't jump in

[pine ember]

Exactly

[wind shore]

How do you imagine paratroopers with out parachuting mechanics ?

[pine ember]

They mostly didn’t Jump at all since 1941

[pine ember]

Just look above or in a WW2 history book

[wind shore]

Ok. Fallsmjagers gets added as subfaction. And ? What’s the profit and difference. + they landed with parachutes

[analog apex]

35km/h + 5% = 36.75km/h... not much difference, more like 15% at the very least

[wind shore]

So in real you should be able to get your FG42 from extra box which would land separately from your parachute and find ammo etc

[pine ember]

No, they didn’t. It would make each map unique if we have subfactions, and the game more accurate

[pine ember]

Please inform yourself why the FG42 was created and how it was used

[wind shore]

What’s the unique of this point?

[pine ember]

It isn’t always the Same german army on each map

[wind shore]

Ok. It would be difference just in default skin.

If subfaction, it should be unique in weapons and mechanics also

[pine ember]

Also the loadouts…

[pine ember]

That’s the Point…

[wind shore]

Somebody suggested Gebirgs Jägers

[analog apex]

it's just bad that we are fighting just like a generic US and generic GER in all the maps, with a jumble of mess when it comes to all the skins being usable on all the maps

no unit patches, no ranks... no units

[wind shore]

And put pickaxe in their loadout. It would be more useful for them than shovel.

[pine ember]

Yep

[pine ember]

Rn we have no map for them

[wind shore]

Imagine you would have mechanics to climb on mountains

[wind shore]

Which map ?

[pine ember]

You already have, just play Hill 400

[analog apex]

or Remagen

[pine ember]

Karelia

[analog apex]

another thing I never get about climbing - why HLL never got ladder mechanics... so limiting

a basic mechanics in all of the current games, yet not present in HLL

[wind shore]

What? We don’t have this map

[wind shore]

Was no Gebirgs in Hill 400

It should be unique subfaction or DLC skin for Italian campaign

Coming with the Italian campaign

[analog apex]

I believe he meant just the hill/mountain climbing, not the actual unit being there... in case you wanted to climb something

[wind shore]

It’s small mountain it’s most just hill

Remagen could be. But better get normal mountains size in Italy

[analog apex]

Remagen then 😄

[wind shore]

🇮🇹 and climb with your pickaxe to enemy strongpoint

💪 ⛏️

[analog apex]

even better... dig caves under the mountain and reach the other side directly xD
nope man

[wind shore]

No, use it as weapon, and use it as climbing 🧗🏼 instrument

[pine ember]

You asked which map could be

[analog apex]

gtg. again see ya later once more

[pine ember]

For the Mountain experience

[pine ember]

No DLC, and also not Italian campaign. Crete would be better

[wind shore]

Crete it’s just single island

[pine ember]

The Mountains where they fought in italy aren’t that high either, it isn’t the alps

[wind shore]

It is high

Also they had beards 🧔‍♂️

[brave verge]

Right now, for example, Thompson is the worst SMG in the game. With low damage (when it need to be much-much better since it uses .45 ACP). And its the perfect example how broken balance is.

[wind shore]

What? It’s balanced with more accurate shooting

And fast fire rate

[brave verge]

Did you see what i wrote ? Its damage doesnt correlate with its calibre. .45 must deal like A LOT of it. But in HLL Thompson is garbage.

[wind shore]

What’s wrong in Thompson and Garand - it’s incorrect sights I would say

[brave verge]

What the point of its fast rate and accuracy if it doesnt deal the damage as it should do. How many times i died not because i have a bad aim but because of Thompsons low damage.

[pine ember]

No, barely

[storm stratus]

I know but didn’t want it to be silly fast for how the game flows. Might be another FOV feelings when inside them.

[pine ember]

Only the Navy had them to some extent

[analog apex]

It's not underpowered though, maybe practice more with it, it's very easy to be accurate in HLL and with higher fire rate of Thompson it's compensated.

I would welcome guns' damage/range being derivated from their callibers and bullet speed, but can't say they are not unbalanced... faction vs faction wise ofc.

[brave verge]

Man, i know how to shoot in HLL. Right now Thompson is barely usable in any situation. It needs re-balance, not buff. Dont tell me, please, nonsense ala git gut.

[analog apex]

Yeah I noticed I see you are LVL 500 too... I also noticed you got from LVL V Assault to LVL X Assault in under 24 hours. Impressive xD. Sorry, but it couldn't escape my eyes, hence I was skeptical about your actual experience with the guns as you obviously been using Bob the Builder (or similar server).

[brave verge]

And ? How it works by your logic ? Ive got LVL 10 and... doesnt played with Thompson anymore or what ? I did played enough to be able to see its gameplay problems.

[analog apex]

I was just trying to point out that one can judge if a gun is good or bad only if the somebody actually plays it and has enough of experience with it.

[brave verge]

I have 1.2k hours. I think its enough to judge every gun in this game.

[analog apex]

You say Thompson is the worst SMG in the game, but I myself can't agree with that.

[wind shore]

Game needs snowboarding 🏂 mechanics

[pine ember]

No

[analog apex]

1.2K hours and LVL500 for a year already. As I say... "impressive". But I guess yeah it's enough if not AFKed.

[wind shore]

Why not

[wind shore]

Why not to get snowboarding mechanics and maybe a DLC with different color snowboards

[storm stratus]

Level 500 in 1,200 hours?

[analog apex]

Then we get to a level of preference... I say Thompson not bad, you say it is - it's a subjective thing. But objectively it is comparable to other SMGs when it comes to its killing potential.

[wind shore]

And from different developers of snowboards

[storm stratus]

Thats some bob the builder grinding if i ever seen it lmao

[pine ember]

The game doesn’t need it

[storm stratus]

I’ll admit i did it. I’ll probably do it again from time to time.

[brave verge]

Ye, played for a hundred hours or so just to get LVL 10 for all classes since it would took me LIKE enormously more time to get them just playing.

[analog apex]

Yep that's true, but as long as his hours are not fake too (we'll never know for sure obviously), it's enough to judge the guns. But then imo it comes to this anyway: #mess-hall message

[brave verge]

They are not fake you can be sure. I doesnt do this cuz dont see a reason to do it in the first place.

[analog apex]

I would see a reason - to have an indication how long this or that player has played and amount of his actual experience. If it was up to me, I would ban all the XP servers (if more than one) and their users temporarily too.

Once the XP server(s) were operating for long enough, HLL LVL lost meaning only because of that.

Nothing worse than seeing a high LVL player not knowing how best to build a garii (talking general now).

[brave verge]

Then you need to blame the devs since progression in this game is so slow that you need like an ocean of time just to get LVL 10 for all classes by playing it normal.

[analog apex]

it was not meant to be fast. I saw it being done that way to also encompass long-term players and still see the difference. Especially since everything above roughly 100 doesn't unlock anything (I don't remember the specific LVL that unlocks something).

And when it comes to class LVLs, imo the progression/loadout system is just bad and should be reworked so nothing is locked behind a level. But even in the current system - it would still not make me to use Bob the Builder.

It's been my opinion and suggestion that instead of this or that loadout being accessible on this or that class LVL, each class LVL should give some more loadout points instead. So everybody would have access to everything even at the start, just not in combinations with anything yet. Some stuff would be more expensive, some more cheap, but everything still accessible even at a class LVL I.

but more about that here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h5IZnqaQzUzhFNvF2uUD8Aj2l40v3-BFFuKIvpbEVE4/edit?pli=1&gid=1853291220#gid=1853291220

[storm stratus]

I understand this. But its not that bad if you enjoy the game. What i hate. Getting a class to max level and then never wanting to play it again as i feel its wasted time. I could be progressing else where.

[real parrot]

I have 2.7K hours and I think is not. Playtime doesnt matter

[brave verge]

It does matter when you are actually playing the game.

[real parrot]

Also wth level 500 with 1.7k hours? Thats must be cap

[brave verge]

Bob the Builder. And still 3\4 of my playtime is spend on publics just playing the game.

[real parrot]

Bruh, I'm level 270 and sitting on almost 3K hours. Thats what I get for playing mainly armor

[brave verge]

I main tanks too but only playing it with friends. Now its too much of game pass players who dont give a damn how to play it.

[real parrot]

Is really hard to play tanks with random, there was a time when I would open my squad and teach anybody as a TC, and thats how I met many of my usual friends and even made a clan together.
But since the Epic catastrophe and the low player count we get nowadays is getting harder, I wouldnt mind new players, but we don't even get that.

[wind shore]

We need new map

[wind shore]

Roadmap 2026 when?

[pine ember]

April 2026

[wind shore]

Why so long, 2026 is close

[storm stratus]

Sounds more like a 2027 roadmap then 2026….

Road map is meant to show the plans for the future ahead… a 2026 plan 4 months into 2026 is just rediculous.

[pine ember]

Welcome to HLL

[oak current]

I grew up without the concept of RoadMaps, so I never saw them as a mandatory thing.

Gates of Hell has a fun RoadMap setup though

"eh we make two things you can buy...rest no idea, we'll tell ya"

Could do the same in HLL: "eh, we'll do two Updates and some cosmetic DLCs - have a good year" and be done with it

[analog apex]

me too, but then again the games were developed faster back then and were usually not changing much after the release

while these days, the games can be in Early Access even for years +they still can change or add stuff even after the release

[oak current]

true, the bugs in The Guild 2 were fun for a decade

[analog apex]

never heard of the game, sry 😐

I see, 2006... how I miss those times

[dusty timber]

Just a question.... If my game crashes (console), do I lose all the points in the match or not??? <@&365680483276816385> <@&1047101525715075093>

[worthy charm]

You get all the XP you collected during your playtime, but not the boni at the end of the match

[finite berry]

mf pinged all CMs and mods for that :D

[worthy charm]

I have been pinged for worse things... 😅

this is ok-ish

[analog apex]

If you crash, you get only all the XPs you got before you crashed (we get the base XP in real time during the match). But even if you would reconnect, the game resets you back to 0 (the stats in the personal stats tab like kills, deaths etc. are saved, but the scores you get XP for like offense, defense, combat and support score - those get reset to 0). That way, even if you reconnect after a crash, you won't get after-match bonuses for any of your pre-crash XPs. It doesn't make sense.

[gentle lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-derpy-dumb-dumb-dog-derpy-dog-gif-7612055438717590629

[worthy charm]

As the last and best child, im more than special!

[slate canopy]

Woke me up... For that?

(not really, been like 25 mins)

[oak current]

https://tenor.com/bmeTh.gif

there you go, so having been woken up is less bad

[wind shore]

One haven bever woken up

For stated all night

[slate canopy]

You are too sweet 😛 I had to wake up at 5:15 to get going... So I was already up (plus a wakeup call from a cat wanting snuggles like 20 mins earlier....)

[oak current]

[gentle lintel]

altberg major cutie irl? never would have guessed

[cosmic pilot]

Gates of hell and hell let loose need to do a tie in

GOH is basically hll in RTS form

Gates of hell let loose

Do it

[coral flax]

hi

someone can help me?

we have hacker in game..

[hybrid sage]

W hacker

[coral flax]

we have hack in game

hacker*

now is two hacker..

[finite berry]

Official server?

[coral flax]

yes

[finite berry]

Nothing you can (realistically) do

Play on community-hosted servers instead

[coral flax]

i play in this server

is EUROPE #3

and now we have two asian hacker

all headshot

i take screenshot

[finite berry]

Like I said, nothing you can do

Those servers are unmoderated

Play on community-hosted ones instead

You can open up a support ticket to T17, but it's highly unlikely they'll do something about it

[coral flax]

ok thx

[silk igloo]

T17 should ask for funding from the finnish government to put finland into HLL. they can easily afford it. they might require T17 to include nail polish dlc though

[thin lotus]

The 4 people will be thrilled about its inclusion

[silk igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/winter-war-gondola-säkkijärven-polkka-gif-14360696

[neat garnet]

The German commander skin the XLVII. PANZERKORPS is meant to be a general major from the shoulder boards but has the field marshal collar patches? Or am I bugging

[jade current]

Am I the only one who can’t play this game? Servers can have 8 players or near maxed and it’s just loading and loading. Been 2 hours now. New to this game. Doesn’t give a good impression tbh

[south lion]

Are servers down?

[jade current]

No, it was the other day. Don’t think they’re down now

[south lion]

It keeps saying disconnected to server. Idk if that’s just me or there’s something going on

[river rover]

Are you PC or Console?

[jade current]

Personally I am PC and the other day I’ve waited 2 hours trying to get into some servers and wasn’t able to so I just left. Also, a new player.

[slate canopy]

Were you trying to join full servers?

[river rover]

Game needs to be on an internal SSD. No external drives or regular HDD. That's the main issue for seeing "Disconnected from Host". They are too slow to load the assets thus are timing out loading certain maps.

[jade current]

Interesting, never had any issues before this game even on HDD. I’ve seen worse performance game still running thru. I’ll double check if it’s in the HDD or SSD. Thanks for the info tho. First time, I am hearing about a game won’t load even on HDD. Also, I don’t see anything pop-up. I don’t see disconnected from host.

[hot talon]

https://tenor.com/view/death-stranding-hideo-kojima-sam-porter-bridges-gaming-walking-simulator-gif-24378392

Most average hll game

[river rover]

It gets worse upon every release. Some folks may be lucky enough to get it running but most don't. SSD fixes more issues than you could imagine. 😉

[analog apex]

I usually play HLL PTEs from an external SSD, I don't recall having any "lost connection to host" because of it. But I would better never get it to HDD... that may be very slow indeed.

[jade current]

If it’s not already in my ssd I’ll make the switch.

[river rover]

Since you are also on Steam. Delete your Steam Download Cache as well.

[jade current]

Alright, even tho I just downloaded about 4 game big max on that account. I’ll try everything you listed one by one.

And I think HLL is the only one downloaded.

At least I could have tried training field. It’s cool. Also, is there some servers using teamspeak 3? Maybe you’re aware of

[crisp matrix]

can some one tell me why hll got so many hackers?

[jade current]

Which type of hack?

[crisp matrix]

aim hack and speed hack

you spawn and get instant headshot 🥲

[jade current]

Maybe you just get spawn killed?

[rapid flicker]

Never seen one, got 1600h

[jade current]

Or he’s really badlucky 😅

[crisp matrix]

no wait let me explain the whole team on evry garry get killed instant like a button XD

we kicked the hacker now more than once but it continues

[jade current]

Hmmm

[crisp matrix]

and he rejoin with 1 or 2 friends

[jade current]

Insane

[past vortex]

should not be possible to rejoin....

[crisp matrix]

okay good to know XD but he can idk why just wanted to say it so maybe a admin can see it

[past vortex]

dont play on offical servers

[crisp matrix]

okay

sad for Team 17

[versed ocean]

Am I only one getting kicked for high ping even tho my ping isn't high and everything is normal?

[finite berry]

I mean, it's not like this is the only game where official servers are an unmoderated mess xD

[slate canopy]

Should I play HLL tonight? 🤔

[gentle lintel]

You do you fam

https://tenor.com/view/ponke-ponkesol-sheesh-sheesh-meme-jeez-gif-18325954655599604717

[slate canopy]

I'm interested... but Outlast Trials just had a big update of a new big bad evil guy and map 👀

[river jackal]

No

[slate canopy]

why not?

[gentle lintel]

Legitimately can’t play that

Won’t try

You couldn’t pay me

[cold ingot]

If you google search HLL cheats, there's a couple websites dedicated to selling cheat codes for the game, like aimbot, invincibility, faster movement, ect. I HAVE seen them (mostly in recent weeks/month). They DO exist. Mostly on PC servers since that's the only way I know you can get those codes. So I play on the Xbox only servers. But the REASON I think there's so many cheaters these days is content farming. Random people are posting vids all across youtube going "look at my best kill streak in HLL/ Im the best HLL," ect, and you watch the vid thinking to yourself how did no one see him, or shoot him, ect. Yeah, there's obvious reasons. Some content creators are THAT good at the game. They got the right graphics, settings, equipment. They also play the same map, same time of day, same clear weather, same server, lol. It gets boring. But there are vids out there exposing cheaters on open servers as well. MGs mag dumping into one guy just running in around, bullets having no impact, rocking glitching right through tanks, players hipfiring headshots at 300m wiping entire squads, ect. Yeah, cheaters DO exist. That's actually why the Report Cheaters button exists, lol. Best thing to do is record the moment if you can and report them.

[slate canopy]

why not? You can play with Max and me!

[gentle lintel]

Not even he could protect me 😞

[slate canopy]

😢 You break my heart...

[worthy charm]

Bg3 honor run when?

[slate canopy]

I already have in-progress runs... 2 with husband... 1 of my own...

[worthy charm]

I heard 4 is a great lucky number

[river jackal]

bg3 is overrated hard

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-no-way-im-out-gif-25376698

[river jackal]

its a fact cause i said it

[tall kettle]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Some players may experience the following issues during Steam's routine maintenance:

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[wheat widget]

eu servers down?

[slate canopy]

Shouldn't be?

[glacial aspen]

Maintenance?

[cyan saddle]

Ma ma ma ma maintenance!

[visual niche]

I just got maintained

[slate canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/joeyrushes-modcheck-modcheck-muh-muh-muh-modcheck-joeyrushes-gif-10011534576081281869

(Shared that with the intent of jus tthe muh-muh part... but the mod check is perfect too LOL)

[river raven]

soo my good comanders infantry soldiers officers and tank units, i need help learning the Commander role any special tips?

iv tried to ask officers for commands when they need supplies and other stuff

but i keep on getting the "the commander needs to place the garrys"

iv also tried doing that too but is there anyone that can like "help" me or anything

[slate canopy]

Someone posted this a couple days ago.
https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1393622094558003250

As for the garrison part, many see the commander role as someone who should have defensive garrison up... or if there are plenty there and need something offensive, the commander should be out in the field putting an offensive one up.

Rather than a commander who just hides in HQ.

[oak current]

I prefer the commander, that sits far behind enemy lines and just marks shit thats going to the froint line / hiding behind hedges

[slate canopy]

heey he's stealing my spotter job! /s lol

[oak current]

its a good chuckle

but yeah, commanders most often help out big time with the garrison building process

[nova pivot]

Look for guides on YT, they are a great help

[worthy charm]

Commander loadout with flare when?

[oak current]

bad willies

[worthy charm]

Ohhhhhh...🥲

I was sooooo close to making a suggestion our of it.

[slate canopy]

Take your hands off my flare 😭

[worthy charm]

The day the devs change the flare into a high altitude glowstick is gonna be a funny one for me.

[cosmic pilot]

TF is going on, did y'all lose access to the moderator chat or what

We don't serve your kind here

[south lion]

Anyone else getting stick drift? It’s just happening in HLL for me for some reason

[hot talon]

Damn just held stalingrad 4-1

[tall kettle]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE NOW ENDING** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Steam maintenance has now ended but some issues may still remain until a game restart

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[south lion]

On offensive?

[hot talon]

Defensive

I rebuilt the gary on the objective 3 times

I wasnt even a infantry squad i was a recon

[slate canopy]

Defense recon can be so boring sometimes 😦

[sage chasm]

How to get gud

[slate canopy]

Play with your team and communicate. Where YOU would hide, guess what...enemy is probably there. Move slow.

[sage chasm]

Thanks a ton

[real parrot]

Those whos only objective is to spam flares in competitive matches have my respect

[south lion]

We were on the last defensive objective and we managed to get 4 tanks onto a pillbox

[hot talon]

Stfu and leave!

Troll stuff is wild

[hot talon]

We had a puma putting in WORK only one guy sitting inside putting rounds down

Appreciated mod

[south lion]

They couldn’t get within 200 meters of the point lol

[slate canopy]

It's spam 😅 happens, usually they get caught in honey, but this one didn't. Sorry 'bout that

[hot talon]

Honestly idk if its a light tank but it rapid fires or sum and you can just hear it rip across the map its so cool

Listening to the mgs on the map is so cool

[south lion]

Yeah that’s a Luchs

[slate canopy]

Luchs is very distinct for that sound

[hot talon]

THUNK THUNK THUNK

[south lion]

It’s terrifying as you slowly see the explosions crawl towards you lol

[hot talon]

See usually i dont survive that long, i typically get dropped by some guy with a kar98k

Because me sitting behind a tree in a bush not moving is like a giant beacon

[vivid fulcrum]

Anyone experiencing 400 ping servers . Why does this randomly happen ? How do I fix it. ?

[slate canopy]

Did you join a server with 400 ping or you joined it at like 90 then it's now 400?

[vivid fulcrum]

All servers are for me are 200-300 pings . And I play these servers everyday . It drops a bit and then spikes to 500 and kicks me

@slate canopy