mess-hall

[eager frost]

it worked for me after reinstalling xbox app and game but it stopped after closing it and starting again

[simple nimbus]

Interesting lemme try doing that

[eager frost]

ye gl and if it works dont install dlc i have suspicion about them

[simple nimbus]

My game just starts doing that randomly after 3 hours of playing the game so

Doesn’t make sense

[eager frost]

my does it after i just closed after any time

[umbral osprey]

Can this be escalated to the right people please? There are a lot of people who can't play right now and it would be nice to know someone is looking into it.

Feels like we're screaming into the abyss

It seems connected to Easy Anti-Cheat

Somehow conflicting with Microsoft services or something

But I tried Fortnite and that boots just fine and also uses Easy Anti-Cheat

I've had issues with this network error thing on Game Pass in the past but it always somehow got fixed

Not this time

At some point we should be able to expect this stops happening, surely?

And without having to go try a dozen different potential fixes

[empty steppe]

Welcome to the Hll discord

[past vortex]

so do you have the game on ssd?

otherwise #player-support

[umbral osprey]

I do

Do we really need more reports still when so many people are experiencing it

[icy schooner]

i also am having this problem with the game pass =[

i did the verify files thing on the 8th, an it started working

but then it stopped an that didn't fix it again so idk if that was just a coincidence or what

[river rover]

What error exactly?

[umbral osprey]

The network error thing tons of people are experiencing on Xbox and Game Pass right now

[icy schooner]

i want to report it but i don't understand how to report the issue

[umbral osprey]

Yeah the report thing is a hassle

But it really shouldn't be necessary at this point

[river rover]

https://support.team17.com/hell-let-loose/en

Microsoft probably having certificate issue again.

[umbral osprey]

The website doesn't let me raise the issue in the support chat there, it just tells me again how to use the support chat that isn't there lol

I can only email

Can't you moderators contact someone? It's been over 24 hours now that people left and right are complaining about it

[icy schooner]

thank you

[past vortex]

for me the chat is therte

[icy schooner]

you have to click the little message button on your bottom right, its a yellow button for me, in there you can do it

[past vortex]

(maybe upgrade your netscape navigator:)

[umbral osprey]

Yeah I click on that and then when I click on report a bug it just tells me again how to click on the thing

I emailed them

[royal epoch]

Any update on the network error for xbox?

[umbral osprey]

But again, shouldn't have to at this point

[icy schooner]

no you got to click send message lol it is kinda confusing

[umbral osprey]

Oh yeah

Well I emailed so close enough I guess lol

[river rover]

The only thing that we here can suggest is the support and we can give a few things to check but in my case only for PC Gamepass. Usually it's being sure your Windows is fully patched\updated including "Optional Updates" and flip switch for "Other Microsoft Products". Be sure your Date\Time are correct and set to Automatic and synced to Internet.

[royal epoch]

I’ve restart internet Xbox and game. Made this is done and still nothing

[river rover]

Not sure what the heck MS does but this happens every so many months. I've passed information on to folks I could but not sure what will happen.

@royal epoch Did you try clearing the cache as well?

[royal epoch]

Nope

Which cache

[river rover]

For Xbox console there's a process for doing it. You can Google the process. There's one way with local storage and another is holding Power Button down until Xbox shutsdown wait a few minutes and power back up. I only know PC mostly.

[umbral osprey]

Appreciate it 🫡

[royal epoch]

Alr

[umbral osprey]

I'm completely tired of having to fix this over and over again so I'm just gonna wait for the powers that be to finally get to the bottom of it

At some point it's like I should get paid to play the game given all the work I need to put into it lol

[icy schooner]

when this happens sometimes i think about buying it through steam where they don't have no problems, but i will lose all my progress and it's like 20 something actual days of progress lol

if i could just send my account info over to steam, they'd get my money again

[umbral osprey]

Yeah screw that. Transferring progress between different version of the game is also something they need to finally let us do

I suggested it with a report a few weeks ago

I have the game on Epic as well but I don't wanna level up all the way again

If I could do that I would probably buy the Steam version as well

Microsoft support is currently also asleep at the wheel apparently

You'd think they're making billions enough at this point

[icy schooner]

microsoft support seem to just give the worst suggestions and then someone else in the comment not affiliated might give you the real answer lol

[umbral osprey]

Oh yeah the forum you're referring to haha

[finite berry]

true lol

[umbral osprey]

I don't even wanna post on the forum because it seems pretty clear that this is something Microsoft has to fix

So I don't care what random dude from somewhere has to say anymore

I tried contacting Microsoft support directly but they say there's no one there lol

I should keep trying I guess but ugh

It probably has more weight if a game developer does the complaining because if Microsoft support gets a complaint like that from a rando they'll probably just force you down the same old try this and try that crap

[neat garnet]

Why don't the Germans have shirts under their tunic

[plush hare]

nah, not just you, this happens to me and my friends, too. On PC (steam), every time I launch the game, it resets all video settings back to maximum. Doesn't matter if I change them from main menu, or while in game- next launch they reset. I close the game properly via the quit option every time, and I haven't edited any .ini files. Would love to know how to fix this.

[analog apex]

There is no fix, just a workaround - either create a backup of HLL's preferences files which you will use in case it gets reset. Or you can make those files to be "read-only" after you set them to prevent them from being changed later.

[thin lotus]

lol HLL

🫵 😬

🫵 🤣

[cosmic pilot]

lol chum
🖥️ 🚶‍♂️‍➡️

[plush hare]

I appreciate the reply. I'll try that, thanks

[analog apex]

I suppose you know where the files are since you already mentioned "ini"s... but just in case:
C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\HLL\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor

GameUserSettings.ini is the file that stores the game settings and also the saved cosmetic presets.

I personally backuped Input.ini too, as I don't want to be bothered with remembering my keyboard input settings, especially the mouse sensitivity numbers.

[plush hare]

this is great thank you. wow, so this also resets keyboard and mouse settings? i haven't changed hotkeys so I didn't notice, but I kept turning my mouse sensitivity down and didn't realize it was being reset lol

[analog apex]

Yep, those get reset too. The way I do it - I changed the stuff as I want it, exit the game, make a copy of both the files just in case, but make the 2 originals to be ReadOnly so they won't get reset.

Afterwards, no more resetting. But at the same time keep in mind that whatever you change afterwards, won't be saved either and will always get back to the state that was saved when you made the files to be ReadOnly.

Honestly, after so long time of this bug/problem being present, the devs should have fixed it long time ago.

[plush hare]

dude, thank you again, this problem should be in the tech-solutions stickied posts with this answer because it's super helpful. yeah i was losing my mind when every time I would start a session, i would have like 30-40 less fps, until i realized it kept resetting everything to epic

[analog apex]

Glad to help 🙂 . I believe it was stored somewhere in#1270189497719586908 but honestly I can't find it myself either.

HLL has had just too many problems that require solutions 😄 .

[plush hare]

hahah i can imagine

[umbral osprey]

I just fixed the Game Pass issue for me by deleting the Easy Anti-Cheat folder in C:\Program Files\WindowsApps and then verifying and repairing the files in Game Pass by going to manage when right clicking the game there

[modest panther]

Is it normal that hell let loose don’t work on Xbox? Because I can’t play I only a have server connection error problem message

[wind shore]

Ah

[thin lotus]

Yes it’s normal that HLL doesn’t work as it should

[sick blade]

I thought I fixed the network error problem on PC Gamepass yesterday, and it is back again... Anyone experiencing it, reseting my network from windows settings solved it for a little while... I will be testing more options today.

[river rover]

You can try deleting your easyanticheat folder and re-verify to get it back then run the easyanticheat_EOS_setup.exe as Administrator. Will appear to do nothing (that's normal). Then test.

[simple nimbus]

This seems to be a new issue starting yesterday still havent found a fix

[sick blade]

I just tried that, and now it just says "easy anticheat is not installed" and wont launch the game

[river rover]

Did you Right click on the exe and run as administrator

[sick blade]

yes

[river rover]

DM me

[sick blade]

and even tried repairing the game

I'm going to reinstall the game and see if that fixes it. I've done everything else I can find on the internet

[river rover]

DM me and we can go over a couple things.

[sick blade]

I will if this doesn't work. Might as well be the control on this.

is there a place to report this issue? Seems like a lot of gamepass/Xbox people are dealing with it in the last 24 hours

[river rover]

You can submit issues here. https://support.team17.com/hell-let-loose/en

[sick blade]

thanks

[wind shore]

bro i get 100 ms in my own region does anyone know how to fix this

[sick blade]

For some reason, I have never gone below 75, no matter what the ping of the server is. It's only this game. I have 1 gig internet, and am directly connected through ethernet.

[plain glacier]

Just wondering, I thought mortars would be eventually be it own thing in HLL

[umbral osprey]

Aaaand the problem is back again lol

[wind shore]

SAME

[sick blade]

Me as well. Yesterday, resetting my network worked. now it doesn't. I'm almost finished resinstalling to see if that works.

[umbral osprey]

I've seen people say it doesn't work so I'm hesitant to try it

[sick blade]

I just finished, so I'm about to find out

[umbral osprey]

Exciting

[sick blade]

Nope, didn't work

[umbral osprey]

Damn

Pain

I just tried deleting the Easy Anti-Cheat folder and repairing again but this time it didn't fix it

I was preparing to have to do that every time but alas

[sick blade]

yeah that has never worked for me

I wish they would just allow us to have our progress across the different platforms, at least within PC. I'd gladly buy this game on steam to avoid anymore of these issues if I didn't have over 800 hours into it.

[simple nimbus]

I would just buy the game on Xbox inestad of using gamepass but idk if that would even fix it

[umbral osprey]

Yeah not sure if the Xbox people having this issue are all using Game Pass

[umbral osprey]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1383980535965159485

I suggested it a while back

Give me an upvote haha

It's one of those functionalities that everyone thinks should exist when asked, but few people at any given time care enough to say anything about it

It's a no-brainer

[harsh tinsel]

So tired of playing germany..

I'm germany for like a bajillion matches in a row lol

[slate canopy]

Do you change servers that often? It should swap sides every map.

[harsh tinsel]

I kinda only rarely stay for a few matches

I just end up getting stuck into germany when I join so its just kinda on me and bad luck

I need to find some servers where people do their jobs... I like support and stuff but usually don't have cooperation on my team

[sick blade]

The teams swap sides every time the map changes if you stay on the same server. Also, if one team is locked, if you wait a little bit, it'll usually unlock as more people join the other team.

[pine ember]

They have the most Variation, and normally it’s harder to get in the German faction than the American one

I left the Brits and Soviets out intentionally since these maps are sadly barely played

[harsh tinsel]

Soviet is unironically my 2nd fav side to play

[empty steppe]

I enjoy playing them too, they def need a few more weapon variants and a bit more love though 😅

[nova pivot]

I like it the most.

The ppsh, the sv-40, the crushed Lewis

[past vortex]

ahyeas the buggy hipfire

[woeful jungle]

alg consegue me dar um help

[lucid coyote]

Yo boys, any fix for Xbox network error thing?

[umbral osprey]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1289092404648869891

You can try these

But so many of us are having issues with it right now both on Xbox and Game Pass that it's probably something that needs to by fixed by the devs and/or Microsoft

[wind shore]

Good morning

When will be Roadmap 2026

[cosmic pilot]

Q3 2026

[wind shore]

So long

[storm stratus]

Dam thats a ridiculous date if true. Has the team been savagely cut from the development of this game?

[empty steppe]

It’s always been savagely cut 😅😂

[storm stratus]

Kinda wished i was around when the game first released. I only started this year. Feels very slow for more content.

[elder mountain]

Guys, can u help me ? How to play Xbox player with steam player ?

[finite berry]

You can't

[exotic urchin]

I feel that, but you’re here now. The game is brilliant, and has some great community servers.

[fresh hawk]

Sorry to break it to you, but you can’t no cross platform

[real parrot]

I would say the game is as brilliant as my future as an engineer.

[runic dune]

Z

[icy schooner]

There is a lot of confusion about crossplay cause the Xbox game pass app is called Xbox lol

[steep mantle]

usa can u wake up again? new york, warfare, no rules, but be respectful, u can even drive heavies alone, just have fun. i liked to play on official (i dont forget the warm welcoming atmosphere, exd etc.) but …some just need a steamban, u know always the same…

[wind shore]

Hello

How is your day

[arctic rampart]

Pink Panther

[steep mantle]

good

[steep mantle]

And yourself sir if i may ask?

[icy schooner]

I got on today with zero issues, is it working for you today?

[wind shore]

Panthers is good

[umbral osprey]

Will check

YES! Worked for me also

Gonna close and start it again to see if it's maintained

Yep still works

Hallelujaahhhhhhh

Thank you whoever or whatever fixed it

[real parrot]

Hetzer when

[analog apex]

I wonder how it would be controlled. Having 3 people in a vehicle that doesn't have turret nor MGs...

[icy schooner]

[analog apex]

Maybe it could work just even for 2 players - driver would be controlling the gun at the same time and the tank CMD would... be doing what normally.

[worthy charm]

But the Jagdpanzer 38t can have a top mounted 360 degree hmg.🤓

[analog apex]

maybe, but Jagdpanzer is not Hetzer

[worthy charm]

Jagdpanzer 38t = Hetzer

[analog apex]

is it 😄

had no idea about the altName honestly

I thought you meant it as a joke... my bad

[worthy charm]

If I nerd I do it right and using the "real" name should be obvious.

[analog apex]

In any case, the system for top MGs would need to be implemented first, but with how easy is to one-tap even distant targets in HLL, such an MG wouldn't be used much if at all - even if it was available.

Take a halftrack MG for example, usually dead the second someone switches seat into it.

I would predict a better survivability for a Marder III crew that is at least behind the front armour. But for the on-turret MG gunner on top of the tanks... nope. That's just a target practice.

[finite berry]

You're misunderstanding. The Hetzer's top-mounted MG could be remote-controlled from the inside by the commander

[pine ember]

Hetzer wouldnt really fit, and its overrated too

Jagdpanther would be better if we are talking about tank destroyers

[analog apex]

just not that pls. 😄

[finite berry]

Nah

StuG III

[analog apex]

Yep, Stug, Hetzer and Jagdpanther... those are a must

[pine ember]

The StuG was surprisingly rare in the West, it would fit better in an Eastern Front subfaction

[analog apex]

Ferdinand would be sick... biga?s

[pine ember]

Hetzer also was not that common in the west too, and it is overrated

The best tank destroyers for the Western Front would be Jagdpanther and Jagdpanzer IV

[finite berry]

(Eastern Front is in the game)

[pine ember]

Yes, there it is a must

[analog apex]

riiight I almost forgot on Jagdpanzer IV

[pine ember]

But in the west, I dont know. Thats why subfactions would be cool

[analog apex]

But StuG was there in the west too... I wouldn't be able to imagine it without it.

[pine ember]

For the Eastern Front Panzer III, StuG III and a Panzer IV with the short barrel would be cool

[pine ember]

It was there, but in surprisingly small numbers. There were never more than 100 StuGs in the west whilst in the east, it was a lot more. That also makes sense if you consider that in the East, there were more tanks that had to be destroyed, but those could be destroyed with simpler means than in the west. The west had priority since November 1943, so the modern equipment went there

[analog apex]

imo. good enough numbers for being available though

[pine ember]

It could be there

[analog apex]

also it's just way too iconic German TD to not be there

[pine ember]

But if they want to create subfactions and keep them unique, the StuG fits better for the East whilst Jagdpanzer IV and V fit better for the west

[analog apex]

just fast-searching and according to internet there were Stugs in Normandy specifically, so no reason not to have a subfaction that would allow them even there

[pine ember]

Yes, but always way less than in the East, and also always under 100 vehicles 😄

There is a good book about it

[analog apex]

as I say... good enough relative numbers to have them

if we were 100.0% accurate, the US would need to always win matches of Utah, Omaha, SMdM etc. and Germans forced to lose

in a game, some things can be relative where it is not too much of a problem

[pine ember]

Of course, too much realism isnt good either

But subfactions that feel somewhat different would make the game much more unique

[analog apex]

if there were 0 stugs in Normandy, ok ... don't represent them by all means. But if there were rly. there... they have to be there in game too.

If the Germans used around 1400 tanks in Normandy during the op. Overlord, Stugs under around 100 is more than enough for a good representation, for one vehicle type.

It's like around 10-15%.

[pine ember]

We are not only talking about Normandy

[analog apex]

but there were some historically recorded there, that alone is good enough

even if the percentage would be a bit lower

[nova pivot]

🫵😵‍💫

Hetzer is a little turtle, don't bother him

[analog apex]

here are some interesting numbers: https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/cjcgf4/total_number_of_german_tanks_in_the_normandy/

along with their units they belonged to

that's all Normandy btw.

[nova pivot]

Tankporn 😳

[analog apex]

whatever the guy's name is...

[nova pivot]

Admins Sam is sending prn

☝️☝️☝️

[analog apex]

he says he has got those numbers from Niklas Zetterling's book Normandy 1944, German military organization combat power and organizational effectiveness. I guess I will have to get my (virtual) hands on that book.

386 Stug IIIs in total in Normandy according to that - more than Tiger Is (123). Out of 2336 tanks, TDs and assault guns combined, 386 Stugs make 16.52% of that number.

if we were to follow the logic of what to represent based on the numbers, we would have to start with removing the Tiger I from the Normandy maps... just because their numbers were lower.

...which wouldn't make sense

or do you still think otherwise?

[pine ember]

Barely any armor, and a nightmare for the men that operated it

[nova pivot]

No, let me be happy

Don't ruin my hetzer

[pine ember]

First I have to verify the numbers. Bernhard Kast wrote in his own book about the StuGs that there were always less than 100 StuGs combat ready in the west

[analog apex]

we should make the 2 historians to argue then 😄

but Niklas Zetterling seems to be very specific as he mentions all the units there too, not just making a general number

[pine ember]

So is Bernhard Kast

[pine ember]

You can still love it

But I wouldn’t want to be cramped into that thing, rather a Tiger

That thing was loved by its crews

[analog apex]

we can assume only one thing then... even if we went the average middle, there still would be more than 100 Stugs in Normandy at the very least

[pine ember]

Yea, maybe

[analog apex]

what's the name of your book? just want to check which one is newer

[pine ember]

Wait a sec

[analog apex]

let me guess... STURMZUG: Tactics of the German Assault Platoon 44

[pine ember]

No, we were talking about StuGs XDD

“STUG: Ausbildung, Einsatz und Führung der Sturmgeschützbatterie”

[analog apex]

but they were used to support

[analog apex]

👍

ah right a Stug dedicated book

hmmmm your guy's book is much newer

2000 vs 2023

good reason to doubt the older one, still... the difference can't be too big... but only God knows...

[pine ember]

Yes, they were used still often as infantry support

[analog apex]

German only 😭

[pallid rain]

Doesnt matter how old Zetterlings book is, it uses the original units strength reports.
Also combat ready =/= at hand.

[analog apex]

if it uses original ones as the source, it has to be as accurate as possible then

I wonder what Bernhard Kast used if not the original reports

his book is dedicated to Stugs on the other hand

[pallid rain]

If Knast used combat ready numbers he, ofc, might arrive at other numbers because the strength reports of the units give the combat ready and vehicles in repair numbers, thats why i said combat ready =/= at hand.

[analog apex]

so... returning to the topic - 386 Stugs were in Normandy, at least around 100 combat ready, the number still comparable with Tiger I which we have as a default heavy present on all Normandy maps. That makes Stug III eligible to be there too.

[pine ember]

Kast is not only about Normandy though

Also the rest of the west

[silk igloo]

heard you talking smack about hetzer like i wouldnt find out. jagdpanzer IV is 10 tons heavier with same effective armor in the front, and it is not cute

[nova pivot]

Fact

[pine ember]

Look at the side armor

[silk igloo]

it's cute, what about it

[nova pivot]

Simply rotate the tank

https://tenor.com/view/get-rotated-get-rotated-idiot-rotate-rotation-shark-gif-24511062

[pine ember]

Possible, but it had a very bad visibility

[nova pivot]

It has a fkin control remote mg

What else do you want?

Leave the little turtle alone

[analog apex]

that 2h slowmo is a pain ain't it @silk igloo... so bad we can't respond real time there
will wait and see what you cook for me heh

[silk igloo]

yeah, and i couldn't even type the full message the first time. couldnt reply to the manpower thing

im NOT going to pay for discord nitro

[analog apex]

same here, I would need to pay for Nitro... 🥶

I won't either

took me quite a while to shorten the message to fit as much in there as possible, and yet I had to remove some points I wanted to get a bit more detailed on

why there is 2h slowmo in #1098158460463480842 , but no slowmo in #1387383638282211474 ... just remove it 😬

I also meant to say that if there would be repair+rearm cooldown and the higher forward vehicle spawn prices as I laid out, I would have no problem with the fuel node. But 1st I wanted to address the arguments and it didn't fit in either 😦 . @silk igloo

I will somehow try to mix it into the next one.

[silk igloo]

Rethinking it with you demoralized me on the idea of nodes and I already got a new idea for resources. Submitting a new suggestion doesn't seem to have a cooldown so we can circumvent the limits by making new suggestions 🤪

[gentle lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/look-stare-face-mean-bruh-gif-27645430

[grave creek]

my game has been lagging since yesterday, I tried to buy a skin in the store, the game crashed, I entered again and the settings were reset and everything was lagging

[silk igloo]

We want your suggestions. No not so many!

[empty steppe]

Morning 🥱

[empty steppe]

Only valid prn he should be sending

[cosmic pilot]

Marshall 2 hour slowmo?

Damn, I'm disappointed

[analog apex]

The game keeps stuttering for years. But if you haven't / had good FPS before - if you crashed, maybe your video (and all other) saved settings got reset to EPIC and made your FPS worse. Unlikely the source of the problem (as I would assume you already checked those), but good to check either.

[grim pond]

hello there i wanted to ask you guys that got alot more experience then me what would be the harder achievements of this game? like actually hard not grindy, been really enjoying the game and wanted to go for em yes i am aware of alot of the really grindy once
i should also specify i mean on steam

[analog apex]

Destroy a fully crewed halftrack as AT or Engineer - that one is straight impossible without asking friends to populate the halftrack on the enemy team in an empty server.

the thing is, that in all my thousands of HLL hours, I have never EVER seen a full halftrack. Just with 2-3 people in at most.

But usually just 1 man in, the driver.

[grim pond]

yeah that is fair so far i rarely see halftracks in general let alone fully crewed, i miss read that achievement as transport truck originally cus that was my assumption, which while hard would be possible atleast

[analog apex]

yep, for the tanks at the match start it would be hard and very luck-dependant, but possible

but the halftrack one... stupid and impossible

and yet they keep it in despite the people have been making remarks/complaints about it for quite a long time

[grim pond]

yeah i can see that i guess im gonna have to make a decision on boosting it once i get around to it but that will be a long time, would leave it for last then

[analog apex]

There's another one similar - destroy a full enemy jeep. That one is also extremely luck-dependant as the jeeps are usually crewed jsut by 1-2 guys who requested it (and onyl if soembody requested it - jeep alone is a rarity in itself). I haven't seen full jeep yet either.

[grim pond]

i have yet to see a jeep in general

tho i guess that makes sense i only got 24 hours in the game so far

[analog apex]

that's the thing, they are spawned just manually by the commander if somebody ask of if CMD wants to use it

another stupid one

and another is - drive over 250 enemeis with jeep - that is not just stupid, but also goes directly against the teamplay (whoever wants to get it, needs to intentionally drive over the enemies potentially wasting the jeeps one by one for his selfish personal needs)

[grim pond]

yeah i did see that one aswell, im already terrible at driving anything but a tank so that sounds awfull and like a good way on how to get kicked

[analog apex]

but if you want a challenging one that is doable, try the 25/50/75/100 killstreak

or revive 63 friendlies in one match (although that one just got easier with the latest update)

[grim pond]

the kills without dying i almost got the 25 while in a tank crew with some friends before but thats as far as i gotten with that for now, and i been looking at the revive one cus while hard i feel in a full 1 and a half hour game it should be too bad right?

[analog apex]

you mean... shouldn't... right?

[grim pond]

ngl the once i think im dreading the most sense i first looked at the achievements are both achievements for 10 kills without dying with the spade/knife

[analog apex]

yep, should be doable... as long as the peeps won't be giving up, you have to be rly close to revive them before they give up 😄

[grim pond]

yeah typo sorry

[grim pond]

just gotta yell at then to not move into the light :)

[analog apex]

the easiest it would be probably in the OFFENSIVE gamemode, on the defence team - peeps in the circle, encircled by the enemies are plenty for revivals

and if the match lasts long enough

[grim pond]

yeah and ofc avoid skirmish seeing those rounds only last 30min if i recall? been a while sense i got a skirmish game

[analog apex]

30m by default, but with the latest addition to the server settings, I believe the admins are able to set diferent matches duration for any gamemode, they can choose from pre-defined selection of durations, not sure what's the longest one for the SKIRMISH right out of the bat though

right, for SKIRMISH they can choose between 10 - 60 minutes
Warfare 30 - 180 minutes
Offensive 50 - 300 minutes

[grim pond]

yeah for now im sticking to official servers cus i donno community servers feel intimidating when im still not super good at the game yet

[analog apex]

if you have a mic, talk, listen and respond - I would see no problem with joining the community servers. Veterans got used to teach random newcomers... if they show the good will to learn 🙂 ... and cooperate.

No matter how good or bad you will do in the match.

[grim pond]

i do have a mic i just find it hard to talk when no one else is, also my call outs for stuff like tanks needs some work for sure seeing im no tank expert if we put it lightly

[analog apex]

yep, if peeps are not talking then ofc... nobody will yell at you for being silent either, at least not anybody in the squad 😄 .

as for identifying the tanks... you'll learn in time

a good new (fresh) addition is the offline **EXPLORE **mode where you can explore the maps and drive all the pre-spawned tanks in any chosen map. Or you can choose the practice range.

[grim pond]

true tho can be a bit of a problem when you main anti tank, tho i suppose AT aint too hard when the strat for every tank is aim for the behind and win

[worthy charm]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1332326701342130317 :}

[grim pond]

i see, yeah i messed around alot in the practise range but didnt know about the explore mode

[analog apex]

the rockets can be tricky though (or more like... buggy) - lights and mediums you can destroy by 2 direct rocket rear hits

you will need at least 3 rear hits for the heavies

I personally avoid rocket launchers at all costs, I use it only against the armoured scout cars. I better stick with the satchels.

But for the satchel laodout, you need some XP and class LVL to unlock it ofc.

[grim pond]

yeah my AT is only lvl 3 so im stuck with rocket launcher for now i aint using the lvl 3 loadout

[worthy charm]

Satchel can be tricky tho, if you dont know the maps that well.

[grim pond]

currently i got no class im aware of that got satchels

[analog apex]

maybe, but they are reliable - once satchelled, upon the explosion the tank blows up no matter what

[worthy charm]

The AT gun loadout can be fun with a friend on maps like Foy, Remagen or Kursk ( and maybe Hürtgen Forest if you know what youre doing...)

Otherwise I wouldnt recommend it.

[analog apex]

Unlike the 2 rear rocket hits - sometimes a hit doesn't do any damage.

[grim pond]

yeah tho i dont wanna rely on a stationary gun is all, ill just go artillery if id do that

[analog apex]

And hey, let's not forget the truck that managed to bounce off a shell in the past 😄 . Basically any projectiles against the tanks are not reliable hits.

satchel is almost always a win... just requires some experience with movement and being able to take care of yourself

[worthy charm]

I wouldnt recommend Arty gameplay early on either, the community has very specific way to interact with those in the enemy or allied team.

Once you play a bit, know where garrisons are usually build and maybe even got a spotter who does their job well with the flare it can be so many free kills

[grim pond]

what do you mean exactelly? im a lil confused

[analog apex]

teamkills 😄

[worthy charm]

Currently the most popular way to counter arty is sending a recon squad back in the enemy HQ.

and teamkills yes, people just dont care about your marker or what you tell them sometimes

[grim pond]

oh im well aware i encountered em before, havent had a teamkiller yet outside the occassional griefer but those get kicked rather quickly

[analog apex]

but if you are lucky and the enemy recon squads are stupid and are not going for your arty for whatever reason, you can easily get even the 100 killstreak achievement... if you also hit your arty targets

best if your team marks an enemy garrison and then you just rack up those kills

[worthy charm]

Can be tricky, but if you wanna try it anyway do it as Soviets, their arty guns are turning much faster than the other ones. I got my achievement 100 kills without dying like this together with a friend.

[past vortex]

i had an defended enemy arty as commander yesterday
2 recon squads couldnt get thru :O

also had a persistent arty squad as recon
they tried to protect the aty with trucks and fought hard
took like 20 of their spawns before they gave up :}

[grim pond]

yeah i only play with arty with friends cus randoms arent reliable enough to give me good info so i dont destroy my own team instaid

[night lark]

Rockets are also great anti personal weapons. In comp games we have had a couple crack shots with the bazooka taking out OPs and Garrisons from 300m +

[analog apex]

I hate that honestly. Mostly because such peeps are just spamming it and exploiting the rearm/redeployment system. Those rockets should not be free!

[worthy charm]

We all now when Altberg streams a game, the truck he follows will be rocket sniped.

I love those clips

[analog apex]

they should think twice when using rockets against infantry

[grim pond]

i think i killed more infentry with my rocket launcher at this point then vehicles/tanks because screw that one lone infentry in particuler

[night lark]

Nah man all about the meta. There were games where if you times it right and with a little bit of luck you can do a 850m rocket and hit a transport truck full of dudes

[analog apex]

that should not be possible either, if the devs had any logical thinking

[grim pond]

but yeah in most games i played most people dont seem to call out tanks so i sometimes just use my rockets on infantry before i die cus whats the harm if im about to die anyways?

[analog apex]

and honestly I hope they will remove/fix it one day

[past vortex]

*bothered to implement a projectile model

[analog apex]

but without any uncontrollable sway that would impact the superlong ranges

[night lark]

In principle yes but also you should really be able to use them out to their real life effective range

[past vortex]

the rockets would fall down before that

[worthy charm]

Everytime people talk about changing something I remember the good old days with loadout bug...

Fun

[analog apex]

but not with 5m accuracy on 850m

[night lark]

Think maximum range was around the 400m mark so yeah

Not 850 pinpoint

[analog apex]

there should be random spread - unnoticeable for the normal ranges, but making the stupid long range inaccurate

[past vortex]

not at 850m at all
the velocity would drop to zero way before

[worthy charm]

Its fine, most of the time you dont get to shoot a tank anyway, the free xp doesnt need to go to waste.

[grim pond]

indeed and its really funny to give the enemies a heart attack with a rocket to there face

[silk igloo]

Should make the rockets far more awkward to reload, and they should come unreloaded. Idk, but Im rather certain that no-one ran with a reloaded rocket launcher

Not on their back at least.

[worthy charm]

At times is very frustrating when people dont ping tanks, as a tank andy I can promise you it not fun to play tank completely without intel.

[grim pond]

i love playing tank crew but i dont do it with randoms only with friends so i rarely get to play tank crew sadly

[worthy charm]

Wait till you get the flametrower, I have waaay to much fun with this thing, but peaking a corner once or twice a game to just flame down some people makes feeeeel sooo good.

[silk igloo]

most humane german

[grim pond]

i really wanna use the flamethrower even tho i heard its rather bad but sadly if i recall its support lvl 9 loadout right?

[worthy charm]

Its situational and yeah lvl. 9 support it is. Can take some time if you dont sell your soul to bob, the builder.

[analog apex]

yep,
very situational but you are lucky you are a newcomer - the flamethrowers were boosted with their range a great deal recently. It was a pain before.

[grim pond]

for the time being i wanna do my xp legit but one day i might have to join one of those xp servers cus lvl 500 would take a life time to get to but for the time being i got no interest in doing that

[worthy charm]

Sam be like: Am I a Joke to you?

[analog apex]

🤬 🤮

😄

I wonder how many of us got to LVL 500 via legit playing and not exploiting in some unnamed XP server.

[grim pond]

i only use sam for actually unobtainable achievements like that has a reason so its actually impossible

[worthy charm]

I met one other lvl. 500, he didnt even wanna tell me his playtime.

Not sure if he did it legit then, but still impressive

[grim pond]

we shall see, i never said i would do it thats a decision for future me to make but with my current mind set i know those servers exist but i dont wanna use em

[analog apex]

then he told you all you needed to know I guess

[worthy charm]

Some of those need to be done with a chunk of other people who wanna have those achievements as well.

[empty steppe]

I got bored after 400 hrs, I don’t understand this level of commitment 🤣😭

[worthy charm]

Killing a full halftrack aint possible

no way it is

[grim pond]

yeah we talked about that earlier in the chat

[analog apex]

I just always loved HLL (despite I got to hate many of its bad aspects over time 😄 )

HLL is the game of my life... there wasn't ever a game I played longer than HLL (likely nor there will be any either).

[grim pond]

well i dont harder stuff for achievements, there are a surpricing about of achievement hunters out there for game like this

[worthy charm]

I got a bit further and cant say I would ever come close to it tho. I knew some people who got over 20k hours in guildwars 1 & 2

[empty steppe]

Im employed… so that’s also a thing… 🥲😂

[silk igloo]

i've become rather certain that achievements are malicious design, even if the devs dont realize it, since some people will be trapped into trying to achieve them

[worthy charm]

Thats a mistake on your part, just do it like me and be unemployed to get free money from the government.
Work smarter not harder!

[empty steppe]

Lmao

[analog apex]

me too... but true I got to like LVL 200-300 while I was at the unviersity yet

I gotta check the dates of my XP Steam achievements

[empty steppe]

I live in the US it ain’t that ez my guy 😭😂

[grim pond]

tell me about it, i got 600 hours in monster hunter world, 300-400 hours of that was trying to get 2 achievements

[empty steppe]

Those sound like some fun “study” nights 😉

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/balthazar-american-flag-gif-8971352732697002253

[silk igloo]

i mean, would you say to an OCD person or such that he gets an "achievement" if he spends weeks of his life for this virtual creation of another person?

[analog apex]

learning stuff was always easy for me, so I was able to invest much less hours into studying, and more into gaming 😄

[empty steppe]

I wish man, that sounds like a goated skill 😭

[empty steppe]

I’ve seriously never tried to go for any, if I get em by accident, it happens

The jeep one looks impossible

[analog apex]

I was also in an US clan back then [EASY] - so I used to be up during the nights with them as well, I was in the top leadership too... I miss those times
the clan still exists, but all the old people are long gone

[worthy charm]

Sounds like a you problem then xD. My ex-employers seems to ignore me trying to get important document. The goverment org. will write him now and if they still dont do it, they gotta pay a fine. xD

[empty steppe]

I just got bored of Hll too fast, the new content is too slow, I feel that’s the main problem, like I’ll play it occasionally

When compared to like hell divers… yk 😅😂

[silk igloo]

I've never cared for them either, but for a fleeting moment in time the GP score on xbox 360 meant "something" when me and my friend were 15. In a passing conversation. But then there's, seemingly, all these people who care for them, and a whole speedrun genre, and it's just quite terrible imo

[golden summit]

Does anyone know how to fix error connecting to the network.. I simply can not play this game anymore last time I managed to play it was 4 months ago I’ve uninstalled and reinstalled the game about 20 times and I simply can not get connected to any of the servers

[analog apex]

There are only 2 things that would make me stop playing HLL permanently:
1) New WWII game that would be realism oriented, hardcore and in UE5.
2) Technical problems with HLL that wouldn't allow me to play anymore.

[past vortex]

what platform

[golden summit]

Pc

[past vortex]

and what platform

[golden summit]

Steam? I don’t know what you mean

[empty steppe]

I haven’t checked the player count lately, but it feels like he’ll let loose might be past its prime, which is saddening me 🥲

[past vortex]

game on ssd?

[golden summit]

Yes

[silk igloo]

why ue5 though. it could be made in assembly for all we care

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-2-arrowhead-game-studios-sony-interactive-entertainment-playstation-elite-force-gif-11050324331370512126

[analog apex]

I have been watching that too - 4000 on Steam, but unknown with EPIC and Gamepass

so in that case I could add
3) If HLL died

[worthy charm]

For real, im playing to much broken arrow, its just to much fun with russian rocket arty.

[silk igloo]

back in 2019 we were lucky if the peak hit 1500 players, most of the time it was below 500, and we had great time

[empty steppe]

@worthy charm did you see the new warbond????

There’s a teleportation back pack

[worthy charm]

no

[past vortex]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1271336721908502650

[analog apex]

I had great time even during the alpha/beta playtests... in those big uncut full 2x2km maps, and despite server wasn't full every time

actually that was my best HLL time

[silk igloo]

maybe that's why the community then was so energetic. a much closer circle.

now it's more like walking into a supermarket

[finite berry]

HLL will never die

[analog apex]

we'll see
SQ44 doesn't die too for instance but only for the US region mostly - I believe EU servers are not filling up anymore

[finite berry]

Ehm

[empty steppe]

Idk about that

[finite berry]

It's literally the opposite xD

[empty steppe]

Well hope

[analog apex]

is it 😄

[finite berry]

It is

[empty steppe]

Everything good comes to a end 😔

[silk igloo]

my best time was singing "fall of gil galad" while clearing trenches with a m1919 in the old hurtgen forest

[empty steppe]

Except Minecraft

[analog apex]

then I had bad luck or something because so far when I checked, only (2) US servers were populated

[finite berry]

EU player base is significantly bigger than the US one, and EU has more (competent) server hosters

[past vortex]

without private servers all games shut down eventually

[finite berry]

If you check at a time where EU is 🛌, naturally only US servers will be full lol

[empty steppe]

I think as better ww2 games come out in the genre it will eventually drive hell let loose out

[finite berry]

A game can die in two ways: no players left, no development; I can see neither happen for HLL

[empty steppe]

It really comes down to there content and engagement

[analog apex]

no, it was during the EU day so far

[finite berry]

What time, exactly?

[analog apex]

or I didn't see all the servers

no idea man

[empty steppe]

Or a huge scandal 😂

[finite berry]

Hour, doesn't need to be precise on the minute

[analog apex]

around lunch maybe?

or after it

[finite berry]

Yeah, way too early for EU servers to populate

So US servers were still up and EU servers were not up yet

[analog apex]

then way too late for me in the evening - I don't/can't play in the evenings anymore

[silk igloo]

As long as people pay for the servers, and the IP holder allows, it can never die even without development, right?

[finite berry]

Evening time is the only time when you can play Squad 44 on servers in your region, usually lol 😄

[empty steppe]

In my opinion atleast, I give hell let loose 5ish more years

[finite berry]

Correct; and if modding is enabled, the community can keep the game alive

Source: Squad 44

[analog apex]

so effectively - if a game doesn't have at least 1 filled server in any region at all times, such a game is legit dead

because for example, I can't play it just because of those low numbers... if I wanted to

[empty steppe]

Modding is a huge factor that keeps stuff alive

[silk igloo]

I figure they would pull server support for HLL when they make HLL 2 lol

[finite berry]

When PeriscopeGames left Post Scriptum dead in the water in 2023, it was the modding community that kept the game alive. Hell, when PG abandoned it, all chapter 2 maps were unplayable because some French tank caused the server to crash. A modder fixed that by removing mentioned tank from the files, uploaded that as a mod and thus had enabled a "hotfix" that made three maps playable again.

Modding literally can make the difference

[empty steppe]

At there development rate that’s 5 years away if they started now 😭😭😭

[analog apex]

#StopKillingGames!

[empty steppe]

Exactly

Idk why hell let loose is so against it

Like don’t get me wrong, some wonky stuff comes out of it

[analog apex]

the code is probably so much messed up, it would take them years just to do that... idk

but they said they were untangling it a year or so ago

[empty steppe]

Basically every long lasting game has been there because of modding

Like Minecraft, wouldn’t be still around and popular with out modding 😂

[silk igloo]

a lot of work that does not pay. it's managed as a business, not an art

[analog apex]

upgrading the engine won't be out of order either... give or take in 3 years, UE5 will be the standard everywhere. Nobody will be making new games on UE4.

[empty steppe]

Modding is basically just free development for a game

[empty steppe]

That would be nice

[analog apex]

UE5 upgrade made Squad maps (those which are supported/converted into it) so much different, so much more real and likeable...

[empty steppe]

A mess for them though 😅😂

[analog apex]

I never liked Squad's environmental detail - was always lower than HLL, but the new UE5 maps in there... a huge difference. Way better than HLL now.

[empty steppe]

I’m really excited to see what arma does in the future, arma reforger has recently been a massive hit because of modding

[empty steppe]

I can’t stand squads graphics, idk just never been my taste

[analog apex]

yep, while Reforger is "just" a tech project to prepare for Arma IV 😄

at least that was their plan

[empty steppe]

Absolutely amazing 🥹

[wooden swan]

When will the eastern front map release?

[analog apex]

ok guys, gotta bail and do some stuff, I have been here for too long 😄

see ya later

[empty steppe]

A new arma ww2 would blow the entire genre out of the water lmao

[silk igloo]

Yeah, but to make a game moddable takes some work, especially if it wasnt designed for that to begin with, right? A company is unlikely to assign their resources to that out of their good will. I wish we got it. Maybe if they made the game moddable and then sold their work as a DLC that lets you play the game modded, idk. It'd cause an uproar but it feels like the only way to have it

[empty steppe]

They’d have to redo all the code basically

[umbral osprey]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1270189497719586908

You can look for a fix here, and if it still doesn't work you should probably contact support through the website

[umbral kestrel]

Do we post the clips in #1387692692305215539

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

-# /s

[slate canopy]

You can if you want them to be possibly featured in the next broadcast.

Last time, I think it was like 20-25 clips and the winner in each category (tank, funny, impressive, melee, etc) won a free DLC code.

[hazy owl]

How much money can we pay collectively to buy this game out, make it open source and free to play so there are more than 2 people developing it and not spending DLC money for a new website 😄

[umbral kestrel]

thank you!

[past vortex]

...Team17 has also purchased the assets and rights to Hell Let Loose from developer Black Matter for a maximum of £46 million ($62.2 million), comprising an initial fee of £31 million and an earn out consideration that could rise to £15 million.

[slate canopy]

According to an article about the acquisition in 2022... More than $62 million.

[past vortex]

i cant see how that was a good deal btw :}

[nova pivot]

It's a game with a great future, but it needs work and love.

It has incredible potential

[past vortex]

*complete rewrite

[slate canopy]

Huk is a Debby downer, don't mind him. 😮‍💨

[past vortex]

i just happen to be a programmer :}

[hazy owl]

I don't know how many people purchased the game since the acquisition but I'll give them 10% and they should be happy 😄

[hazy owl]

I don't believe the majority of devs actually enjoy playing the game if playing it at all or those updates would never be pushed.. change my mind

[past vortex]

no dev enjoys his own game

[nova pivot]

That's why I say it needs work and love.

[slate canopy]

I disagree, the main team in the Dev briefs say they enjoy playing it.

[past vortex]

that can mean various things

i cant imagine anyone at t17 playing more than causual and still thinking the UI is fine

[hazy owl]

that cannot be true... I get your point and probably know where you going with this but... I understand that if the code sucks and one change messes up other two and you clearly don't know what's going on you feel frustrated and dumb and start hating the job and the game as well... I am interested in how many people actively develop the game

[past vortex]

you just have a very different view of a software if you know in detail whats going on in the code

[hazy owl]

so just because you understand a bit you don't care and don't want to play? that does not make much sense..

do you think racing car constructors don't like to drive their racing car?

[empty steppe]

Probably, I’d be sick and tired of that thing

[frosty terrace]

Hey y'all, is there a place where I can report cheaters that aren't detected by AntiCheat?

[thin lotus]

“I don’t play HLL because I can see everything wrong with it”
Lmao, this will never not be funny

[fresh hawk]

Respect

[empty steppe]

It has its problems, but that don’t mean it’s not fun 🤣

[thin lotus]

It really isn’t fun

I don’t blame the devs not wanting to play it. But they’re still accountable for it

[wind shore]

Hi

[fresh hawk]

What do you mean?

[thin lotus]

Join a game, you’ll see quickly

[hazy owl]

I feel like the game is only fun when about 1/3 of the team knows what's going on and play the game. When nobody knows you have 15 mins games nobody enjoys or everyone knows what to do(comp matches), you get stuck in the same spot for 90 mins but it may be the most satisfying to win.

[past vortex]

i think hll is fun sometimes
just dont try to play at odd times and leave when no good server is available

a server full of competent people makes it fun despite all the downsides of the game

[noble stone]

https://tenor.com/view/django-unchained-full-regalia-bags-on-our-heads-criticize-i-cant-see-shit-gif-14443645

[worthy charm]

Its just chum, it doesnt take long until he goes into hibernation again. Then we will be able to talk about the really good stuff. Like TDs, Spgs, the new map or even the evil P-word.

[thin lotus]

Ie, stuff that doesn’t matter when it comes to having a fun game

So much has to go right in a game of HLL, encompassing both teams, to have fun that is derived from its gameplay

The chances of that happening in any given match are so slim

[molten sail]

if you are remotely sentient and had even slightly below average(for a gamer) mechanical skill you can have a lot of fun

[thin lotus]

The game is way too volatile in how it’s been set up to have a consistently good experience, if you’re someone that knows or cares enough about the quality of a match

Otherwise the game is for people who don’t know any better.

[thin lotus]

Mechanically yes, it is simple enough for that but it still depends on the other team needing to be at about the same level, esp considering all the variance that can happen.

Your team can be doing everything “right” in a game, but it still requires the opposition to be at or near the same level of competency. Otherwise you’re playing steamroll matches over and over. That might be fun for some, but it probably isn’t satisfying

[past vortex]

dont forget mortar boats

[empty steppe]

Mortar jeeps 😉

Honestly I think the way mortars should work if added is just as vehicles, both sides had plenty of random half tracks and jeeps that had mortar systems mounted to them

[worthy charm]

Mortar halftracks. 🥹

At gun halftracks?

[empty steppe]

Artillery half tracks 😗

And mortar ones

[worthy charm]

Then they could just make Spgs. 😆

[empty steppe]

Just aim the arty gun forward 😉🤣

[worthy charm]

Shoo, leave me my Illusions.

I gotta make fun of something without reseting the counter

[empty steppe]

Mb cus

[nocturne birch]

@sturdy bridge

[sturdy bridge]

@hardy geyser ur an imposter

[fallen inlet]

Dude

Goated game

[azure heath]

@sturdy bridge You look funny

[neat garnet]

Is there still problems with the dlc packs not being available in game sometimes

[azure heath]

Didn't know that was an issue.

Console thing?

[neat garnet]

I think it might just be console

Not sure tho

[river rover]

Submit an issue. The more that do the more chance it has to be fixed or looked into.
https://support.team17.com/hell-let-loose/en

[cerulean iris]

entire squad is getting a network error on startup

[little goblet]

I think it is common, I can not even access the network

[cerulean iris]

steam is down, go figure

[balmy hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/noo-toy-story-buzz-lightyear-gif-14664723

[pale plover]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-norman-osborn-surprised-you-cant-do-this-to-me-gif-24182893

[balmy hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/pain-suffering-death-star-wars-gif-25111888

[sleek laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/tobey-gif-2787110654213314235

Bro i Just got home from work loaded into my first match and everything went down

[balmy hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/netflix-you-me-same-connection-gif-14382918

[sleek laurel]

we will get through this together.... I promise!!

[pale plover]

https://tenor.com/view/kms-gif-4481205

[balmy hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/pain-are-we-suffering-swag-kruglik-yahicord-gif-21495687

[umbral osprey]

Now I'm having another weird bug on Game Pass where my mouse sensitivity settings literally disappeared

can't change them anywhere lol

[small kayak]

Im still so confused as to why SL’s don’t have a pistol with the M1 grand it’s the dumbest balance choice ever

[sleek laurel]

Is steam back up yet? I’m to scared to look😂

[slate canopy]

Mine is fine..

[mild tinsel]

This game makes no sense sometimes. Tell me how when I load into the game, my mic doesn’t work at all. No matter what I do, if I reset it, disconnect and reconnect VOiP, etc. BUT, if I quit the game, join a random discord VC and THEN join the game, my mic works in game all of a sudden

🤔

Like what? What is this games issue? 😂

[slate canopy]

Do you have more than one mic output?

[mild tinsel]

No. All of my other mics are disabled on my PC

My Studio Mic is the only one active for my Audio Input

[river rover]

Need to set a single MIC and single PLAYBACK and make them your Windows Default Devices and Disable all others. You can also do a SOUND RESET too in Windows.

[mild tinsel]

Did all that lol

[river rover]

Be sure you have the (2) Firewall items properly configured. Screens can be seen here in pinned messages. https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1271718922734796865

[mild tinsel]

I’m not worried anymore. I know my Mic works now I just have to be in a discord call first for some apparent reason

[modest prawn]

I'm getting really annoyed of random armoured players they tend to not talk or just leave after dying once but I also am not going to join a whole milsim group just to play with tanks

[river jackal]

Thats why i usually only tank with friends, even if im a duo

Heavy tank duo fucks

[modest prawn]

I don't play enough to have friends on HLL so there is that lol

[storm stratus]

I’ve not experienced that myself yet. I’ve only had nice people who have mics

[modest prawn]

Been playing since the console closed beta yet I still don't have much in the way of friends

[modest prawn]

Lucky man

[storm stratus]

PC community might be different to console

[modest prawn]

Probably

I tend to always end up on the losing side and it's almost always because it's one sided and all the low levels are on one side

[analog apex]

not too much though
when I want to play with tankers, it's a wildcard so often - often at least 1 of the crew do not talk, sometimes nobody (very strage considerign a tank crew members are dependand on each other)

and then sometimes I have a streak of luck when all talk at each my attempt

[modest prawn]

Its worse when you join a squad and its a solo recon player with no mic

[analog apex]

it's best to play with the same people I played tanks before, peeps I know that talk and cooperate. Just to find them first.

[modest prawn]

Also I've been getting very bored of the US-German maps since I've been wanting to play around with new tanks and such but never can find a server

[storm stratus]

I’ve not experienced that yet. But i wouldn’t stay if i was put in that position. Tank crews need comms

[modest prawn]

It's bad because usually it'll stay that way for the rest of the match

Armour is one of the only things I have fun with in this game now honestly so that's why I'm getting so frustrated

[analog apex]

Also I hate solo tankers that take a heavy from the full crew and waste it, they occur from time to time.

Such players should be banned from the game 😄 .

[modest prawn]

A bit rarer for me but it does happen

Is the community thinking that tank destroyers are the vehicles they're adding next?

[analog apex]

We have no idea. The newest HLL roadmap mentions new vehicles and the devs haven't provided any hint, what they could be yet. But TDs would be nice and also needed... in a WWII game like this in general. They have been missing for way too long. But as I say... there is no way to know as there wasn't any info yet.

I also don't understand why an iconic weapon like Panzerfaust hasn't been added yet... but that's another topic.

[modest prawn]

There is already a bit too much AT sadly though im not sure if thats a hot take

I think tanks should be scary in WW2 and not absolute glass cannons

Adding tank destroyers and nerfing AT would actually be very interesting for balancing and could lead to better engagements and more of a role for armour

I'm no competitive player though

[analog apex]

AT and specialist roles usability overall should be reworked imo - those classes shouldn't be in one generic infantry squad, they should rather make** specialist squad types **- AT squad, Engineer squad, MG squad, Mortar squad Riflemen squad. And limiting them just to a few per team so there couldn't be too many AT capable classes in the field.

Today, the infantry squad is limited to 18 per team. Which means theoretically there can be 18 ATs, 18 satchel Assaults and 18 satchel Engineers... in the worst possible theoretical case. That shouldn't be allowed to be a thing even in theory.

[modest prawn]

I agree for the AT and Engineering I think anymore and it could get overwhelming

[analog apex]

So theoretically, there could be like around 30 AT capable players if each group (AT, Engi, Assault) had SL too.

[modest prawn]

I highly doubt we will get anything like that sadly though

I think the team has been slowing down a lot recently with larger content updates

Satchels I think were one of the worst additions they make in terms of equipment

[river jackal]

Tanks are imposing, only reason you'd engage one as infantry is if you are AT or satchel man, if not you run for your life, and tanks can take a beating, if you want glass cannon tanks, that's squad and Arma reforger

[analog apex]

I personally prefer **bugs **to be fixed and systems overhauled, before the new content so I am OK with it. And then there's the **optimisation **I hope they will fix one day.

[modest prawn]

They still take two shots from an at from any 180° radius around it's back

I know you could say thats the tanks fault but tanks should not be played so passively like some kind of modern IFV

[river jackal]

Ive gotten more tank kills with shotgun satchel man than AT as ptrsh and rocket man tank kills lol

[modest prawn]

Satchels are crazy lol

[analog apex]

💯 same here

[river jackal]

Shotgun satchel man is my favorite class

[modest prawn]

There isnt much you can do to counter them

[river jackal]

Run

[modest prawn]

I do wish infantry would stick to tanks more like a mechanised

Absolutely no one uses tanks like how they'd actually be used lol

[river jackal]

It also depends on how compotent the tanker team is, if they're half decent you aint satcheling them

Unless you get really lucky

[modest prawn]

Usually the driver is always the incompetent

[analog apex]

The projectile/ranged AT weapons (rocket launchers, AT rifles)** feel so useless** - because even if we hit the enemy tank many times, it can survive & be back in a few seconds fully repaired, and the player ends up with no recognition from the game at all (in form of no XP as he didn't deliver the killing final blow). It's stupid and it makes the AT capable players to compete instead of cooperating.

[modest prawn]

If even one crew member is incompetent then the whole tank is

Thats the sad reality

[river jackal]

I mean yeah you need 3 people working as one, if 1 person sucks then your gg

[modest prawn]

Which makes playing more casually infuriating

[river jackal]

Thats why i dont play with randoms

[modest prawn]

Really wish we had more allied maps

That aren't in africa

I thought tobruk was decent but I cant help but feel like the time wouldve been better spent somewhere else

[river jackal]

Tobruk is awesome, its a great tank map but also great cqb map

[modest prawn]

I only really played it around the launch of it

[analog apex]

looks rly good especially since the patch, but sadly it is one of the maps that stutters FPS the most... alongside of Stalingrad and Remagen which are the worst, the other maps are "just" bad xD in that regard .

[modest prawn]

Stalingrad never gets picked for maps so there is that

Lol

[river jackal]

Bring your pc into this decade and magically itll not lag

[modest prawn]

The massive open train yard in the middle really annoys me because it could've been a pure urban map but just had to have the large area

Also the fact that both sides have very sparse buildings

[river jackal]

Shocker, a 980ti or something like that....probably wont run anything good nowadays lol

[modest prawn]

It's getting reworked though so hopefully they fix that

[analog apex]

lag and stutter is a difference
Anyway, I have a very good PC. And btw. the game started stuttering since one specific update (or patch rather), it was not about my HW because by the time it started stuttering, my HW was one of the top (i9-10900K and RTX 3090ti).

So no - it's not about HW, more like about bad optimization, maybe of even of the code itself.

There are not many people that have stutter-free experience. People with stuttering prevail.

[river jackal]

Lag here and there is generally from stuff rendering in, which lirerally every game does, its how you get 1% lows lol

[analog apex]

Hard disagreement, all other games are smooth.

[river jackal]

Also i never had issues on my old PC (10700k + 1660 super) and my new one (9800x3d + 9070xt)

[analog apex]

No matter what I tried - SP or MP games, HLL is the only one that stutters like this all the time.

...ever since Patch 14.3

[river jackal]

What resolution is your monitor

[analog apex]

irrelevant, I tried both 4K and 1080p

the result was the same

[river jackal]

Uninstall and reinstall drivers then

[analog apex]

I already did such and many other stuffs.

[river jackal]

Then idk, with a worse pc i have better stability and with a better pc i got better stability,

[analog apex]

HLL stuttered even at a fresh Windows installation and on my 2 other machines I tested longer time ago, another proof it's not about HW (nor SW).

It's about HLL only.

[river jackal]

My 1660 super and 10700k should not be more stable than you, my new one yeah that makes sense it's 2 generations up on you

[analog apex]

I had stutter free experience on my old GTX 1080ti and old CPU but with the patch 14.3 I mentioned, it all started stuttering

and not even my newer CPU and one of the top GPUs helped at all

so as I say... it's the game's problem

I am not a PC newbie either, I tried many usual and unusual attempts/tricks to fix it.

it's just not possible

[analog apex]

here ofc with lower resolution I had higher average FPS, but the microStutters were the very same

[river jackal]

Strange, only time i had issues is when the server offed itself

[analog apex]

then you are one of those few lucky peeps

and you have even lower-end PC than I do

If I have better CPU and GPU (and the game on an M2 SSD), plenty of RAM - there is no reason why my HLL should stutter. Especially at that test I made at a fresh Windows installation in the past.

[river jackal]

No lol, my main pc is better than yours

[analog apex]

whatever - I meant you said it was smooth on your old one too

what do you have btw.? just out of curiosity

[river jackal]

9800x3d, 9070xt, 64gb ram

With a bit of rgb too for the additional performance

[analog apex]

GPU comparable to mine, CPU 23% better...

RAM the same size as mine

shouldn't be a stuttermaking difference by far

but again... especially that even my old CPU and GPU were stutter free until the Patch 14.3 came

[river jackal]

Weird

[analog apex]

definitely is

HLL always has been weird with many of its aspects 😄

and dev decisions too (although maybe with this they are finally coming to the common sense since they decided to finally overhaul some stuffs)

[umbral osprey]

Try increasing the shader cache size. It fixed stuttering almost entirely for me.

Like magic

My game was always a little stuttery here and there but the last update made it much worse and after that fix it runs much better than ever

[storm stratus]

I’m coming in late and unknowing. But is it anything to do with the Direct X verisons?

[analog apex]

already tried that one

[analog apex]

nope, the same on both

[umbral osprey]

Then you should probably contact them

[analog apex]

I have

[umbral osprey]

Good

[analog apex]

didn't change anything

(surprise 😄 )

[umbral osprey]

You gotta keep banging on their door until they make it work for you

Be annoying

If every other game works fine for you but HLL doesn't then it's on them

[analog apex]

so they gotta fix the game, not me my computer

[umbral osprey]

There's still some chance there's something you can do to fix it but you shouldn't have to do all that work

[teal moon]

Are the ps5 severs down ??

Won't connect to online servers ps5

[river rover]

Nothing showing here: https://status.playstation.com/

[echo karma]

I bet they don't even have the source code for hll

[vapid stream]

Last 2 weeks is the worst I’ve seen game stability for the last year

[real parrot]

I do

[past vortex]

post it in #off-topic-mess-hall

[dense gale]

im about to give up

I havE 110fps with an 5090 - 9800x3d and direct 12 enabled in my steam launcher options

whats going on

[past vortex]

launch options are no longer needed
110 seems normal, game is just that badly optimized

[dense gale]

I normally reach 230+ fps

[sturdy quarry]

not sure but just so ya know the game is DX12 by default so ya dont need the launch option as of last patch

[past vortex]

not in hll :}

[sturdy quarry]

yeah i feel like it performs worse since change to DX12, even tho i ran DX12 prior with the launch parameter

[dense gale]

yes I do

[finite berry]

110 FPS is good tho

[sturdy quarry]

not when ya used to 230...

[past vortex]

i see zero difference

[dense gale]

yeah afteer last patch the game is been freezing / lagging /

idk for me HLL just went from great to bad again

[sturdy quarry]

mine went from okish to stutterville

[dense gale]

Okayu HLL just crashed aswsell lmfaooo

whats going on!

[past vortex]

maybe dial back on the oc

:}

[sturdy quarry]

dunno why there are always ppl in the chat that cant believe perfomance changes for some users with each patch just cos it doesnt happen to them

why would we make it up

[past vortex]

oh i believe it, its just that we didnt find a pattern/reason/solution yet

[river rover]

These are the only things you can try. Be sure you have NO Steam launch options. Set your GPU Driver Cache higher to 5-10G. Set up a good 10G MIN and MAX Page File. Delete your %localappdata%\HLL\Saved folder and reconfigure everything within game.

[steady vessel]

Pattern is T17 breaking something that was already supported by "implementing" it.

Ultrawide support? Was fantastic. T17 "implemented" UW support and completely broke it to the point UW users either switched back to standard monitors, play in 16x9 compatibility mode, or quit playing.

Dx12 was supported through commands, wasnt bad. T17 "implemented" it and now its broken for a ton of people.

Just is what it is. Real love/hate relationship with them tbh. They do something decent then break something else in the same breath

[severe sleet]

Is anyones game crashing with a 4090 unexpectedly without any errors on screen?

Like literally just crashing

[river rover]

You can see if you have any reports in your crashes folder %localappdata%\HLL\Saved folder there should be a .dmp and .xml file for most recent.

[past vortex]

did the game ever produce a dump when ctd?

[river rover]

Don't know for sure. If any exist though it could lead to the issue.

[nova pivot]

@empty steppe I'm bored, unbore me

Please 🥺

[empty steppe]

🫩

Fine

Uhhhhh

[nova pivot]

...

It's working keep it up

[empty steppe]

I can’t send memes on here

So…

[nova pivot]

🥺

[empty steppe]

Go to off topic sir

[clever fulcrum]

[finite berry]

No

[floral shoal]

Yo guys. I am downloading the game right now so I thought maybe I could get some tips before I start playing the game

[finite berry]

Contact @maiden skiff, he might be able to help you out. If you have questions, ask in #new-recruit-barracks

[wind shore]

Delete it

[split hamlet]

The most fun is to find a unit that communicates and then learn the game by taggig along asking questions.. This game takes a while to learn fully, but start with a role that you like and then move from there

[floral shoal]

Do I really have to use a mic to get the best experience. I have a mic but my PC is in my shop and there is a lot of background noise

[umbral osprey]

Communication is very strongly recommended. Without that it really is a completely different game.

You don't have to talk all the time and your mic is never open so you can keep it brief if it's particularly noisy

[split hamlet]

If you want to ask questions yes, but watch listen and learn in the beginning is a good way to learn the game as well. But pls dont wander off on your own away from your unit while being mute. Try to keep together and follow your officers command at least 😁

You can communicate by clicking scroll wheel on mouse. You get some icons to send to your unit if you dont have mic.. Check that out!

[floral shoal]

Can you tell me one more thing. How long is one game. So I can play it when I know there will be no customer coming at that time

[gentle lintel]

Playing while working 🧐🧐 brave

[split hamlet]

It depends how fast the points are taken, but you can jump in and out of every match but lose your points

[finite berry]

Yes

[finite berry]

I'd say calculate with at least forty minutes, plus minus

[split hamlet]

This is a very engaging game, a whole team of 50 players communicating and copy markers on map, following commander and officers plan. Its not a silent chill pew pew for some minutes.

I know some players mute all voices and like to do some solo pew pew. But the games full potential can only be experienced when you play as a team

[oak current]

Warfare Mode Games are up to 90 minutes, fastest I've ever seen was 11 Minutes in a Steamroll.
Skirmish Mode is 30 minutes max.
Offensive Mode is only 30 mins if you loose - every time you capture a point, the timer gets reset to 30 minutes, while there being 5 points to capture...so 150 minutes max potentially.

Server owners can now make the time MUCH longer...but dont think anyone is really running that yet, except a few.

[worthy charm]

Also depends on the gamemode you play. In offensive one match can easily take over 2 hours or just 30 minutes. 😅

I dont like offensive for that reason...

[lunar nest]

any good eu people i can join to play?

[worthy charm]

#pc-looking-for-unit 👈

[sand jay]

Why does my game always have a crash error bruh

[river rover]

What is the error?

[broken shoal]

Vehicles are unplayable

Yeah i said it

[worthy charm]

Nahhhh

Tank are fun

[past vortex]

when satcheled

[dull quail]

What do you guys think about sub factions for each Individual map like the did for the north African campaign

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-to-mobo-pov-gif-8741123014761454734

[nova pivot]

Very funny gif willes 👏👏

It made me smile

👏👏👏

[sand jay]

Dont remember but will let you know if it pops up again,

Sorry should have turned mentions off

[winged zenith]

Has anyone experienced that everyone around you freezes or gets stuck in animation, meanwhile you can keep running around yourself and then eventually ~20 people disconnect? Is there a solution to it?

[novel geyser]

It should be a thing

[timber wasp]

I have watched the Criss Tee videos and he always has a zoom in with different rifles, how is he getting that. He holds the rifle to shoot and then zooms in like a scope rifle??

[past vortex]

thats when a server dies, rarely it recovers, often it dies completely

i just got bamboozled by the enemy commander
saw an aihead, run up, saw the bomber plane, took cover, run back (happy), BOOM strafing run :D

[sand jay]

Me personally ive never had this issue

Just get a crash error sometimes and its annoying

[winged zenith]

It just seems some people though, the majority ~70 people can just continue to play like normal

i'd think it would be a personal issue, but since it's about ~20 people at the same time, I wonder if it's something to do with the server or some other bug with anti cheat or something

[past vortex]

i only know it as full server dead

[pine ember]

It doesn’t have to be for every single map, but I would like if they for example separate between Wehrmacht, Waffen-SS and maybe Fallschirmjäger, also an eastern front subfaction would be good

[livid heron]

Can we please figure out a way to prevent people from camping HQ spawns? It's so lame and just kills the game.

I know we can't make them out of bounds the way it is otherwise artillery would be impossible to counter but come on - there has to be something.

[night lark]

Some servers have a no camping rule (the one my clan has for example no camping HQs except for middle)

[livid heron]

That's good but it should be built into the game imo

[night lark]

Yeah i wish HQs were another sector behind in a kind of safe zone

[thin lotus]

how would that solve the issue? If someone still wants to camp, they'd just stay around whatever border this safe zone is, and shoot people leaving it

[fresh hollow]

Yoyo

[night lark]

So Squad has a safe zone that disables weapons and dissolves bullets when they enter the zone

[thin lotus]

Sure, but that doesnt prevent people just staying outside of this zone and shooting people who try to leave it. HLL has weapons that very easily one-hit up to 200m, it's just as easy staying outside the zone and camping whoever tries to leave the safe zone

It doesnt solve camping, it just prolongs the time before the targets are killed after they spawn within this safe area (and try to leave it)

[past vortex]

the camping isnt even a major problem

it is bad when everything else has already failed

only hastens the defeat a bit

[night lark]

Squad servers are usually A) well admined, and B) players arent scum. It works there pretty well do idk what to tell you

there is an exclusion zone of 300m that is enforced around the HQ by admins and camping usually catches a kick and/or a ban.

[thin lotus]

well this is HLL, a game with a lot of boneheaded gameplay designs

[night lark]

Okay? That can be changed. Mechanics can be added

[thin lotus]

can but wont. I promise you

[past vortex]

scout's honor on that?

[thin lotus]

get a 2s medic revive and call it a year
lmao hll development

[livid heron]

You'd have time to spread out and not literally be getting shot the moment you pop into existence before you can even potentially spot the shooter location

[hollow shard]

Sad players like that ruin a good experience

[slate canopy]

If you have issues with a server, please handle it privately. 🙂 Thank you.

[real parrot]

Still better than having one guy behind you everytime you spawn

[opaque cloud]

Anyone know why there is not a single community server up?

[novel geyser]

I dont think the spawnkilling problem is much killing people leaving spawn
It's more killing people as soon as they spawn. There's more ways to avoid getting shot leaving spawn then when you're just spawning

Best way to solve it is to remove artillery and either make spawns a restricted zone or auto detect people in the spawn area on the map or something

[analog apex]

HLL is not like Squad - Squad has 1 HQ, HLL has 3. If a team manages to have all their HQs spawncamped and with no other options, it was doing something wrong and deserves a fast defeat.

We are talking about 3 HQs man... still not enough?

If there was just one HQ, I wouldn't say a word. But not with 3. Like... wtf.

[livid heron]

Spoken like a true Hq Spawn camper.

Unlike OPs and Garrisons they are in a set place every game, every map, so there's 0 skill whatsoever in finding them and then just waiting for people to spawn in on them to shoot them. On the other side of it you've got people dying, waiting for decent time to respawn, dying on the HQ basically instantly and having to wait again.

To your point about there being 3 HQ's, if your team is at the point where you need to spawn on HQs it's likely one of them is locked out because the final objective is under threat, so really it's only 2 at that point. And if one is being camped, you've one choice.

It adds nothing to the game but aggravation to be able to simply go and camp the only guaranteed spawn locations on the map except aggravate everyone except the kill farming cod boys and make the match less interesting.

[analog apex]

Arty mid HQ being spawncamped? Use the other HQ then and try to kill the arty invaders by coming from the other HQ. You are complaining about being spawncamped - but that's just as bad as when we kill the arty people, just so they can spawn right there in 10 seconds again and again and again.

So just use the other HQ. Once more - there are 3 in total.

[icy pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/wink-eye-wink-gif-3023120962008687924

[analog apex]

Arty guns should be just removed from the game and replaced by buildable mortars.

[livid heron]

https://tenor.com/view/we-can-agree-with-that-ashleigh-ruggles-stanley-the-law-says-what-were-gonna-agree-with-that-we-stand-with-that-gif-26554797

[novel geyser]

Removing arty would solve like 90% of the spawn camping issue

[analog apex]

...and give the recon squads better stuff to do than to get to the enemy mid HQ and spawncamp it

[novel geyser]

Since at least then spawn camping is reduced to nothing more than a scummy move instead of an """"intended mechanic"""""
So admins for servers would probably enforce more rules against it

[analog apex]

yep, the reason for spawncamping the HQ would be gone... at least if we are not fighting for the last point

[novel geyser]

I would say it would be nice if hq spawns were in their own protected areas outside the main map or something

[analog apex]

yup, but it would require overall map size change and that is lokely not happening

[novel geyser]

Yeah

[livid heron]

My main point is, one of HILLs biggest strengths is allowing the players to decide where they will join the fight from via garrisons and ops and those locations being unknown to the enemy. It creates so much strategic potential, the set hq spawn locations feels out of step with that overall methodology

[nova pivot]

Or remove the artillery and put mortars or SPGs

[novel geyser]

Yeah remove arty

[nova pivot]

It would be more fun to play recon

You would have to locate the enemy and not always go to the same point.

[novel geyser]

Indeed

[analog apex]

sounds like definitely more fun

[inner mesa]

Do you know that you can't spawn any vehicles on any spawn apart hq, so if they get camped you can't do anything. Even if you have 8 garries.

[analog apex]

That's why we always still have 3 HQs.

[past vortex]

whata bs, if even one hq is permanently lost you are losing anyway
all the camping does is hastening the defeat that is comming anyway

[cold ingot]

Or they just drive a tank through HQ, while all the A-Ts firing rockets haven't learned trajectory and everyone else with Satchels are chasing it like dogs after the mailman. My favorite way to lose, lol.

[inner mesa]

and the point being if all hqs are getting camped, you don't have vehicles for the time being and you loose, for example in offensive the team attaking never have this issue cause we can't go in the last row (200m) it should be like this for all hqs

[analog apex]

If all HQs are beign camped, your team deserves a fast defeat.

And nothing else.

[past vortex]

damn, another "problem" that isnt really one, just like the medics :/

[silk igloo]

people always clump in one grid on the map and then complain when the enemy goes around and camps their spawns

[mint lava]

I haven't played since january. Has the game had any meaningful updates yet?

[gentle lintel]

WW2 had no spawn points, unrealistic

[past vortex]

the mgs can be emplaced in more spots

scoring is different

thats about it

[past vortex]

it did but the spawn delay was atrocious

[gentle lintel]

countdown timer bugged

[cyan saddle]

Still hasn't been fixed either I have heard

What are these devs doing

Too busy adding new skins

[past vortex]

i thought they wor on different games round robbin?

[cyan saddle]

Things all went downhill when they added Nicki Minaj

[gentle lintel]

I think you’re thinking of their other game, FortLoose

[wraith thistle]

If you make an air head in friendly territory does it last longer than enemy?

[gentle lintel]

Negative

[wraith thistle]

had an air head near a friendly point on Torbuk last well over 10 mins ?

[cyan saddle]

I've heard there was a glitch

[slate canopy]

Honey saves the day

[analog apex]

I am going to thank him in his channel 😄

[empty steppe]

Lemme go text him thanks real quick too

[wind shore]

Anybody got the link for HLL e-tool?

[nova pivot]

The discord server?

[wind shore]

Yes please

[nova pivot]

I'll send it to you by dm

[wraith thistle]

Huge server crashes on HLL Official 😭

[worthy charm]

We also got a server invite for HLL E-Tool in the guides
https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1316881335306027078

[worthy charm]

Thats why you play on a community server

-# /s play on whatever you want

[cyan saddle]

I will tell you to play on a community server, without the /s

[past vortex]

not if it is the wrong server tho

[harsh tinsel]

Buildable mortars does sound nice

Artillery should be a support unique call in for a radioman imo

[wraith thistle]

How come radioman can't listen to command chat? 🤔

[oak current]

Cause only Commander+Squadleaders are able to do that

[wraith thistle]

why he have radio then? 🤔

[slate canopy]

As in Support players?

[oak current]

cause its an asset on a character to differentiate between them.

you also dont blow up the AT-players if you shoot the two rockets hanging around their neck.

I might have misread radio and radiomen there

[slate canopy]

Support players don't get to talk to command chat... but they do get to see any recon planes that go over just like squad lead.

(similar to a flare, but the one path over)

[wraith thistle]

Ya, they should be able to listen too!

[slate canopy]

But that'd ruin the point of squad lead 😅

[wraith thistle]

They don't have to talk (busy enough in Command chat as is), they should have the opportunity to listen too!

[oak current]

Why?

[slate canopy]

You're free to make the suggestion but I doubt it'd ever be implimented.

[finite berry]

I get it from a realism point of view, but considering it from a gameplay perspective, there is no need for this

especially considering not everyone is communicating anyway

[harsh tinsel]

I suggested a radioman spec for support

They wear radios and I really want it.

[cold ingot]

We have a hard enough time hearing enemy footsteps and gunfire over all the chatter and you wanna add more?!

[gentle lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[storm stratus]

Just a question i can’t remember. But to dismount arty do you need to hold F? Tried sneaking up on 2 squads yesterday. The first squad knew i came up behind them before i reached them as they dismounted just as i got there, got them both. (Melee) Second squad jumped off as well and got me. It felt like it was an instant reaction. Might of just been proxi comms or a squad tho.

[cold ingot]

I know you have to Hold on console, so I assume PC users have to Hold something as well, but as someone who has run Arty, when you're all alone with your Arty, you start listening for any other sounds. Footsteps, gunshots, anything you shouldn't be hearing that close to HQ with no friendlies around. There's times I'll hop off gun and do a 360° sweep just out of paranoia. So the other guy might have just got lucky on you.

[storm stratus]

Yeh thought would be the case. Hard to move quiet in this game

[slate canopy]

They may also have an OP near by.

[split hamlet]

Yes this is very common they got an OP to warn them when Recon is nearby

[storm stratus]

True true. Seen that before. Forgot about it. 😅

[cold ingot]

Arty loader also has a 3rd person view when loading. If you're opperating alone switching between seats, you might catch glimps of the enemy while loading.

[raw bridge]

Anyone on console?

[amber geyser]

Is there like a server with only console players with mic ?

[slate canopy]

We recommend playing on community servers, you'll have best luck within there.

[slate canopy]

#console-looking-for-unit

[amber geyser]

thx

[storm stratus]

Yeh. Yet to remember the angle that is so i could approach better unseen.

[wind shore]

Can someone tell this klutz of a ‘doc’ to get over here before I bleed to death

Freakin timers almost up buddy

[analog apex]

Honestly the loader shouldn't have a 3rd person view. I always wondered why the (BM) devs didn't do it 1st person to begin with.

3rd person view makes it impossible to sneak on the loader to knife him (if one would risk such a broken thing as meeleeing the arty/AT gun crew xD )... unless the loader has map/scoreboard open and doesn't watch. Also, the loader has unfairly wider angle with the 3rd person view, to see if somebody's coming to the left of the gun and not just behind him.

[floral shoal]

Can anyone help. I was downloading the game and it was almost complete but then my power went out and now I have only 5 gb of game file on my PC. And the game downloading is starting again from 4 percentage

[wind shore]

I dunno man

[night lark]

Uninstall and remove it fully and then re install

[hard galleon]

What happned to asian servers?

[floral shoal]

Yeah I am reinstalling it right now and because my internet is bad it will be done in 21 hours

[night lark]

Rip

[wind shore]

is mg kinda bad now cus angle smaller due to body being blocked by collision something

F for mg bros?

[river jackal]

Dude that doesnt even exist on PC lol

[past vortex]

ofc there is no PC server with only console players

[valid palm]

Is there any chance that the strumtiger would be added to hll?

[fallen surge]

Hey guys, is there an official channel/mechanism through which a confirmed cheater can be reported to get them banned?

[finite berry]

Cheaters on official servers?

[wind shore]

u just got winter skins no more new content for u boi

now infantry turn

give medic m1 g

lefg

[fallen surge]

Yes, this one was on an official server - "Europe #02"

[finite berry]

Then you can't.

Just don't play on official servers.

[fallen surge]

Team17 has no mechanism for reporting cheating??

[past vortex]

offical servers are basically unmoderated
you can contact support (but thats more to make a point)
play community

[finite berry]

Nope.

Like huk said, official servers are unmoderated.

[night lark]

No there wouldnt be. Only 20 were built. Its another one of those “sht nazi kit” things that people think was actually good

[finite berry]

Don't play there.

[fallen surge]

Are they trying to lose loyal players on purpose?