mess-hall

[covert elbow]

They used stock assets for their weapon sounds and explosions so physical assets wouldn’t surprise me

[marsh python]

You getting paid for this?

[round dome]

Like all the German clothing

@fluid pawn I know you’re active check ur message requests lmao

Not these assets

[echo locust]

umm hello im very new to hell let loose how do i turn my mic

[round dome]

Paid for what?

[past vortex]

for the copyright investigation ofc

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

xD

[covert elbow]

No

[round dome]

Naw I make mods for AR im trynna keep Bohemia accountable rn cuz their moderation of their mod workshop has been very inconsistent, some users they’ve banned within hours or removed mods very quickly especially when reports are made by wel known studios like RHS and the like but when I’m making a report as a lowly modder nothing happens. I also think it’s in T17 and their devs best interest to know their licensed assets are being stolen and uploaded under an out hrr hame title

At this point their aware of the stolen content but it’s still up a week later

[solid haven]

@fluid pawn or anyone else that knows.... Do we have any more details on the roadmap? The roadmap itself is still vague with what new things are going to be added. Do we have details on the in game additions and timelines?

[wind shore]

servers down for anyone else?

[worthy charm]

The last information I know of is this one #mess-hall message

[novel geyser]

Modders using ripped assets is not that big of a deal it ultimately depends on the studio who's assets are being used. There is a good chance t17 doesn't care because it's a mod

[round dome]

I’d be very surprised if that’s the case hell if they don’t care I’ll start using their assets too maybe I’ll sell the modes online too, or I’ll make another game with them assets. 😂 see how this is a slippery slope

[past vortex]

they even might to wanna know now so they could sue when a mod would make some money :D

[worthy charm]

Money?💰

[novel geyser]

most mods arent for profit which is why they usually get away with ripping assets, as soon as you start selling the mod for profit its a problem

and any addons/mods on the steam workshop are non-profit

[cosmic pilot]

uh, generally it's a big deal

ripping assets from hll to use in arma is illegal

however, while for example, ripping assets from a star wars game to put into another sw game is less of a big deal, but techincally you shouldn't do it

[novel geyser]

that is anti modding and lame like I said depends on the studio and how protective they are of their assets

[cosmic pilot]

within the same franchise is not a big deal
across franchises/properties/companies is a big deal

it's nothing to do with being anti modding

if you wanted to make your own assets in the style of HLL, perfectly fine

ripping from the game and puting it into another game is a no go

[novel geyser]

and yet many mods do that still

[cosmic pilot]

they shouldn't

most of my experience is in SW modding, where most cases of ripped assets is from other sw games

[novel geyser]

entire gmod workshop to be destroyed

[cosmic pilot]

good

bad gema

[novel geyser]

waa waa

[round dome]

It’s not hard to buy original assets or make your own, ripped models from a video game to use as a mod for another game isn’t ok

[covert elbow]

I mean that makes since you litteraly cannot use most assets from other games, you need Star Wars specific sruff

[covert elbow]

Thats litteraly how modding works lmao. Unless people are paying for your mods it’s fine

[cosmic pilot]

total conversions are a thing

[tardy thicket]

XBOX WINNING

#teamxbox

[wind shore]

mb said some bad word and now mods get spam

[slate canopy]

Autobotmod

[oak current]

Altobot

[wind shore]

still love tobruk

[covert elbow]

Deserved tbh

[quaint laurel]

i ain't played in a while. how's things?

[mossy nebula]

I'm going to bed gn @everyone

[tender shore]

Sweet dreams lil prince

[slate canopy]

In the game, or just life in general?

[wintry thistle]

I never sleep

[cosmic pilot]

Berlin has fallen

[covert elbow]

Ach nein

[worthy charm]

Doch

Ohhhh

[dull remnant]

GG 6th!

[worldly monolith]

Sup

Anyone runnin?

[slate canopy]

Hello 👋

You can find folks to play with in #console-looking-for-unit

[tender shore]

I don't think he wants play

I thinks he mights wanna run away with someone

🥺

[copper socket]

heyy, does anyone know if there's a way to launch hll from steam instead of epic games? I cannot add anyone as friend

[arctic rampart]

Yeah, it's called buying the game on steam

[tender shore]

You just have to DM A marriage contract to @arctic rampart

[finite berry]

Buy it on Steam

[grave shell]

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1cQ8D8u5cuAdxhk9-p-zMCRfR9JaOO1NQN23pO_3PI6o/edit

[arctic rampart]

Finally something valid

When can I see results?

[lyric knot]

you gotta stop the game from freezing and bugging out

[grave shell]

I can post them tommorow 23:59 GMT+1

Also re-send it to anybody you can, i kinda need it beacuse people don't respond often

[tender shore]

The Devs said "no you" in response to your message

[gentle lintel]

russian queen dev confirmed

[bold bridge]

This should be interesting. my first game without a mic.

[gentle zephyr]

hey! Am I right to assume that there a free-to-play periods for hll?

[worthy charm]

There are Free Weekends from time to time

[gentle zephyr]

nice! Is a there already an established date for the next one or is it yet to be revealed?

[worthy charm]

Sorry I dont have any Information on that.

[gentle zephyr]

no worries :)) Don't want to miss it tho!

[lyric knot]

😔

[nova pivot]

Hello

[pine ember]

A bit dead in here

[slate canopy]

Hopefully spending time with their mom this weekend (at least US wise).
Mother's Day tomorrow 🥰

[wind shore]

Happy Mother’s Day!

[wind shore]

It’s weekend

[arctic rampart]

I mean I can't talk in here, otherwise I get muted mid-way through the night multiple hours after my last message

[slate canopy]

but you are right now 😱 GHOST!

[arctic rampart]

@slate canopy Go figure out what's the cooldown on warnings pretty plz

[slate canopy]

The cooldown?

[arctic rampart]

Yeah, till a warning expires

[slate canopy]

I have no clue 🤷‍♀️ I know they eventually do but.

[arctic rampart]

Well then how about you ask in the staff channel to the person that does? Cause clearly ain't no one giving a horses bum about general chat

Except mfers who have the time in the world to give warnings for reactions smh

[slate canopy]

I can ask but doesn't mean I'm allowed to tell. 🤷‍♀️

[arctic rampart]

Quite the secrets for a Discord server don't ya think?

[slate canopy]

Or they wouldn't want people to abuse it? Say it's expires after 2 months... well the person can keep repeating the behavior that got them in trouble, knowing it expired at the 2 month mark and wouldn't count against them.

[arctic rampart]

If someone went out of their way to mark down 2 months since they broke a rule on a discord server, just to repeat it once again, that would be kind of an insane behaviour

[slate canopy]

(btw 2 month is arbitrary number, I don't know what it is.)

[arctic rampart]

Not even looking at the fact that the action they took to break a rule only to receive a warning probably wasn't impactful enough in any case

But then again, we have people in here, who read 5 hours old chat messages only to hand out warnings, so I rest my case

[real parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-hello-meme-tank-gif-24004625

[pine ember]

We here have it too

A certain man made it popular

[slate canopy]

If you have an issue with it, feel free to send a #modmail-request . We may not be able to moderate 24/7 due to the fact we aren't in a paid position and not obligated to watch all the time but will take actions if needed when we notice. 🤷‍♀️

[pine ember]

Yep, I expected more then

[real parrot]

During my administration work I look for the message logs of the game until I'm sure other one had read them, in order to keep the community sane

[slate canopy]

Some countries have similar holidays on different dates, so I use (at least US wise) for a reason lol

[copper socket]

yeah I know man, the thing is that i'm poor and steam regional prices are no more..

[arctic rampart]

Just buy a key

[slate canopy]

Like UK Mother's day is March 30th, while US is May 11th. (For 2025)

[arctic rampart]

You can literally get HLL for 19euro

[pine ember]

Here in Germany its also tomorrow

[real parrot]

And even in the same country, we have a holiday called "moros y cristianos" that represent the "reconquista" from before spain was ever a thing, and in my town we celebrate it 2 weeks before the next town

[pine ember]

I had no idea US has that too

[slate canopy]

Fascinating they do it different days in the same country 🤔

[torpid marten]

on ve day does germany say sorry and apologise to us?

[arctic rampart]

No, they go and play in a T17 stream

[past vortex]

ah so its 2 months, good to know

[real parrot]

I don't think germany can talk

[pine ember]

?

[torpid marten]

huh?

[past vortex]

duh

[pine ember]

First: Who is "us"?

[torpid marten]

do germany make an official statement to the world on ve day

about how they are sorry

[real parrot]

Lizzardmen, obviously

[past vortex]

lol dude

[arctic rampart]

Should hand out a warning for that stupid of a question

[pine ember]

Do you think they should do that?

[real parrot]

@torpid marten I'll steal your gold

[pine ember]

Ah right

[torpid marten]

yeah kinda

[slate canopy]

I don't think so. I doubt they go every year to say "sorry". Let's move on

[torpid marten]

im just asking a question out of curiosity. its not provocative

[pine ember]

But why? Germany has apologized so often

[past vortex]

lol

[worthy charm]

Guys please, this doesnt lead anywhere.

[copper socket]

so if i get the game on steam can i transfer level?

[pine ember]

Im also curious now

[worthy charm]

I want to watch my anime and not warn anyone here.

[past vortex]

ykk what would lead somewhere

[arctic rampart]

No.

[slate canopy]

Nope.

[torpid marten]

do you think one sorry is enough to cover the whole event. that sounds like gaslighting to just move on

[past vortex]

googling it before aserting

[pine ember]

You dont have to warn us

[copper socket]

damn

[arctic rampart]

Fighting the urge not to mention Russia in this topic right now

[cyan saddle]

We are gaslighting you to just move on

[pine ember]

Germany has apologized more than one time

[slate canopy]

I'm trying to jam to Kpop and play WuWa 😭

[pine ember]

And even gives money away

[real parrot]

Hahaha while you were distracted talking nonsense I stole everyone gold 😈

[past vortex]

now that we know the warnings exprire in 2 months....

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-breath-mark-ronson-how-to-be-mark-ronson-inhale-breathing-gif-17039950

[arctic rampart]

The best Hell Let Loose related discussions

[pine ember]

Germany has lost territory that has been German for centuries, Germany was split in two

[slate canopy]

I't a number, I have no clue what it is. 🙄

[arctic rampart]

Most action this chat has seen the entire day

[past vortex]

:}

[worthy charm]

Life is hard but unfair sometimes

[pine ember]

We remember

[arctic rampart]

And it's the same like 15 people we see each day

[torpid marten]

so germany doesnt apologise to us on ve day ?

[pine ember]

Again, who is "us"?

[real parrot]

Same os Russia or US

[slate canopy]

and I gotta go outside to trim the edges of the house once husband is done mowing 😢

[pine ember]

No, why should we?

[torpid marten]

us means the good guys. the allies

[past vortex]

its one of those "is it trolling, is it incompetence" moments

[pine ember]

Were you in WW2?

[finite berry]

Close your eyes, then you'll see what we owe to you

[pine ember]

You werent angels either

[finite berry]

hahaha, for real

[copper socket]

literally happening roight now

[torpid marten]

if usa is still paying for slave appropriations from the 1700s i think a war 80 years ago is still pretty fresh

[arctic rampart]

I don't see Russia apologizing during the 25th of march when we have the Commemoration Day for the Victims of Communist Genocide. But I'm not gonna continue, otherwise I'll match Ninjas path.

Or is that a topic for ww2 history?

[worthy charm]

I just did that last weak and I hate it.

[arctic rampart]

Idk, the channels don't make sense anymore anyway, since it's the same old people

[slate canopy]

So did we... growing so fast!

[slate canopy]

Final warning, drop it.

[finite berry]

Okay, but no one cares what you think lol

[pine ember]

I dont think they do that, but we have paid enough

[real parrot]

We could say, is a mess of a hall

[cyan saddle]

Woah I forgot I could change slowmode

That's so cool

[torpid marten]

cool. i wont bother asking questions to the germans again.

[arctic rampart]

Make the nearly dead chat even more dead

[pine ember]

The future will be European cooperation, no more one sided and pleading for forgiveness

[cyan saddle]

Choose your angry GIFs wisely

[worthy charm]

I'm about to start smiting people here😒

[finite berry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1165369525231947946/1357469841790865510/tenor.gif

[copper socket]

he's clearly trolling

[real parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/enojado-gif-6930705070173779193

[torpid marten]

why am i getting warnings for asking questions though

[arctic rampart]

I just love a good slow mode that accidentally gets left on for multiple days, because people with perms forget to turn it off.

[pine ember]

Do not generalize please

[worthy charm]

That remebers me of the maimais in ich iel😂

[finite berry]

You mean those funny memes about ||törken||? :)

[cyan saddle]

If you make a #modmail-request we can explain 😄

[real parrot]

mods, answer him only with old chatGPT3 responses

[pine ember]

These memes are the best

[cyan saddle]

Bold of you to assume us mods haven't all been replaced by AI yet

[worthy charm]

They are all great!

[arctic rampart]

Okay HLL gamers! Rise UP!
It's been over a month since the MAJOR SUPER BIG UPDATE came out.

What, from your perspective, has changed in the game since the last major update came out?

[real parrot]

Only one can recognise one 🤖

[torpid marten]

never mind. i'll just ask ai co pilot.

[slate canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-ravioli-workout-mr-crab-gif-7996280

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-terminator-robot-looking-flex-cool-robot-gif-16625083

[worthy charm]

Change? Tutorials from 5 years ago are still 100% accurate.

[past vortex]

i dont get to know the queue progress anymore, thats mostly it

[torpid marten]

so is there anywhere we can talk about the war and ve day on this channel?

[pine ember]

#ww2-history

[arctic rampart]

So the last major update added a map....

....

..

And a queue bug.

[slate canopy]

You're free to talk about the war, with factual statements, in the WW2 channel.

[past vortex]

except the tiger reload speed

[real parrot]

nothing, none, not a single thing

[worthy charm]

To be fair Tobruk is a excellent map and dont forgett the best weopon buff in the history of HLL

[arctic rampart]

Which part? The buggy sandstorm or the tactical map that is about as accurate as my MS paint drawing?

[past vortex]

its not that good, also not terrible, just ok

[real parrot]

Panther*

[past vortex]

can we reduce the slowmode now

[worthy charm]

Oha you guys dont like it? I really enjoyed it, it is in my oppinion the best urban combat we got in the game by far. Sadly the tac maps are never really accurate...

[arctic rampart]

We're so happy to see all of our FPS and historical gamers join our communities ranks for the biggest update HLL has seen in 2025. But don't you worry! More updates are sure to come in 2025, at least one of them being a MAJOR update which will introduce

another map.

[past vortex]

and some bug that will stay for a year

[arctic rampart]

A year? Try 4

[worthy charm]

If the game will be supported this long. Would be impressive....

[arctic rampart]

Also wtf is this new SL watch bug. Like this shi' got reported on the first days of the major update, like halllo!! Takes 10 minutes to fix it in the UE4 editor.

[covert elbow]

What if instead of Hell Let Loose it was Freak Let Loose

[arctic rampart]

Whole 2 minutes of people being active resulted in a slow mode

[covert elbow]

Slow modes always been a thing. Oh wait why is it… 1 MINUTE??!?!!!

[real parrot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/750989626281558118/1211025135117795409/Carrot.gif

[arctic rampart]

Because the same people who are in here everyday decided to talk instead of look

[worthy charm]

It wasnt really a good kind of active... Anyway I will fly my spaceship from A to B again.

[covert elbow]

I litteraly send one joke message and suddenly we get hit with a minute timer. What even is this server lmao

How does HLL and everything related to it continually disappoints me lmao

[arctic rampart]

No clue, but it doesn't fail to fail. I'm soon gonna join you in the warning count as well 😄

[covert elbow]

It’s fun. You live life on the edge and just don’t care after a while. If I get banned it’s like a burdens off my shoulder lmao.

[real parrot]

I'll become a T17 developer and fix Hll (never happening)

[covert elbow]

I’m going to become a HLL developer and leak all the source code so someone else can fix these issues.

(Now watch me get banned because I made this joke lmao)

[arctic rampart]

I don't even know what people do in here anymore.
News are few and far between, most of the time meaningless.
Grouping on discord's pointless, since there's regions differences, platform differences and on top of that you all need to be in one server, then one squad. Sheesh, just join a server and play.
We can't joke about stuff, writing criticism multiple times is counted as dooming and not allowed as well, the same topics have been discussed many, many times.
Feedback's ignored.
Suggestions are a trash pile that are ignored.

Like, best thing we can do is share gifs, talking about which..

[humble perch]

Classic Solid.

[arctic rampart]

https://tenor.com/vmvu8H1zvfH.gif

[covert elbow]

Pretty much the point I’m at. The games legitimately just dead in content, community, and interaction. Everything’s been seeming like a death rattle for the past few years

@worthy charm didn’t you say you were going to watch TV?

[real parrot]

I only spend time here while my I310100F/1660 SUPER is struggling for their life while trying to launch my 650GB skyrim modlist

[worthy charm]

650gb?

[humble perch]

Chum should be taking notes.

[real parrot]

About as much yes, one full SSD and some of the other, counting external programs and models, local LLM weights a lot. But I managed to reduce it to like half of it by cutting on redundant textures and downgrading them to 2k at max

[arctic rampart]

Dua Lipa ❤️

[cedar token]

When they adding scopes and ARs to the game?

[slate canopy]

Unlikely. Only scoped would be the sniper rifle. ARs..... no clue.

[cedar token]

Yah maybe a b52 would be cool

[wind shore]

Yooo guys , I have some gray unnamed achievements on steam , is it normal ?

[arctic rampart]

We still on slowmode?

Really? Chats dead again, just turn it off

[wind shore]

Is it a place holder ?

[arctic rampart]

Yeah, they've been a placeholder ever since like a month or two before Tobruk

[wind shore]

LOL , Thanks pal

[arctic rampart]

Although, I did check. Mine are full on achievements now.

Two are something about winning skirmishes on Mortain, which no one ever plays.
I unlocked both on March 6th, but I never actually did such an action, so they're just fake-rewarded achievs

[wind shore]

For me I have on main page just gray unnamed achievements if I really have to call them like that, I think its a common bug

[wind shore]

After Tobruk still have them

[arctic rampart]

Well, it's by far the last thing that's broken around here

[wind shore]

True , doesn't my gameplay so yea

[arctic rampart]

Nah', that'll be more the flying rifles, invisible walls and incorrect tactical maps

[wind shore]

DAMN, thats a lot ngl , but it is one of the best WW2 war games out there and it also take a little bit of space .

[covert elbow]

Lmao

[finite berry]

I mean, is he really wrong?

Among WW2 FPS, I would say that Hell Let Loose overall is a decent game. Sure, bugged, has its flaws and gameplay philosophy kinda lost itself, but that doesn't make it a bad game imo

[empty steppe]

We have a Assault Rifle already lol

[finite berry]

and please no more scopes

[empty steppe]

And every rifle is a assault rifle if you assault someone with it 🤔😉

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-gif-25177956

brilliant

[worthy charm]

My IQ just dropped

[finite berry]

Mine increased

[covert elbow]

I’m gonna grill

[midnight nacelle]

Was it me? I love your mother, and all mothers and all women. 💜

[finite berry]

Yes, it was you

[worthy charm]

I love your mother
Thats now my favorite Jericho quote.

[finite berry]

Big thanks and shoutout to you for making Mother's Day so popular in Germany :D

[midnight nacelle]

Or is it? 🤔

[wind shore]

Hello

How are you guys

[slate canopy]

Doin' allright, gotta figure out dinner.

[wind shore]

I was sleeping those days and chilling

[wind shore]

That’s good to hear! Have a good appetite!

[finite berry]

dinner, noun: the main meal of the day, taken either around midday or in the evening.

You're welcome 😉

[wind shore]

GTA 6 will be delayed until fall 2026 possibly

[empty steppe]

Your welcome 😉

[wind shore]

So how it was before, it’s a tradition that all games released in autumn, from Rockstar

[slate canopy]

Oh youuuu so funny. ☜(ಠ_ಠ☜)

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/bowing-thank-you-tom-and-jerry-take-a-bow-chasing-gif-20784169

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/felicidades-clap-applause-jerry-cute-gif-17499232

[gentle lintel]

Lower than 0?

I’m kidding ♥️

[tender shore]

🥹

[wind shore]

I think Lirili Larila has 120+ IQ

Tung tung tung SAHUR vs Lirili Larila

[real parrot]

Bombardiro crocodilo wins

[cloud rain]

anyone interested in joining a hell let loose game we got a tank squad and infintary squad

[slate canopy]

You may have better luck in #pc-looking-for-unit for folks wanting to play together

[empty steppe]

Shots fired 🤣😭

[slate canopy]

Just lost to the brits on Driel...only to win as Brits on Tobruk

[slate canopy]

Tobruk again, on German side... they(British) have 4 tanks on field! 😵‍💫

[slate canopy]

They keep coming?!

[real parrot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1347966056253095977/1370089709757534259/tenor_1.gif

Do that

[slate canopy]

It feels like it 😆

I'm spotting recon, but my god, at one point they had THREE TANKS defending Abandoned Ammo Cache.. but we had more infantry.

I had to use infantry, tank, and light vehicle mark to mark them all 😵‍💫

[real parrot]

"Enemy tanks!"
"Where?"
"Everywhere"

[slate canopy]

😭 These tanks are killin ussss

[slate canopy]

😭 We won, but holy cow that was a back and forth.

The constant tanks were wiiiiild

I swear they always had at least 2-3 tanks on map at any moment.

[slow current]

@slate canopy I have some YT content from the Ukrainian - Russian war. It's more about the effectiveness of how Ukrainian responds but it might not be relevant for HLL. However, if someone reviews it and makes a decision, maybe players here might be interested. Either way, just wanted to share the experience.

[real parrot]

wuat

[slow current]

Shadowmharsal I get a lot of YT content, and some from the actual war. I watch them, but not everyone would want to. This however has to do with a convoy being dealt with and shows the strategy behind it.

[slate canopy]

I don't know if we would allow it? One of the rules says "To protect this community, please do not post: NSFW content, including graphic & violent imagery, Real world combat footage, imagery considered offensive in modernity."

[slow current]

Fair. If interested its on YouTube.

[real parrot]

This is so random.
Its 6 Am I'm going to sleep, I'm starting to see things

[slate canopy]

Oddly enough, I found a picture of (possibly?) Hitler's teeth on reddit, but it shows piece of jaw bone, which wouldn't be SFW

[slow current]

correct - and this video is very real world. Thanks for replying.

[slate canopy]

I haven't shared it, partly because some articles in the comments say it's NOT Hitler... but others say it was proved to be.
Sure thing I think I've seen something similar on youtube or reddit.

[past vortex]

muddy story
so many ifs
and then they used to show them around in moscow, let people touch it

do you know the photo f that woman US war correspondent in hitlers bathtub ?

[half harness]

How do I level up fast

[hollow musk]

By rallying together and going through foes like fire through foliage!

[hollow musk]

But in seriousness, I would always recommend building nodes at the start for passing EXP and team stuff. Then rock the Medic so you can always heal, revive and savour that delicious Corpsman EXP.

[arctic rampart]

Medic for leveling up xD?

The day medic gets a lot of score is the day we won't have a gazillion suggestions to make it worth while

[tender shore]

I've seen so many Node builders get shot in the back by teammates just so they can place nodes themselves instead.

[gentle lintel]

It’s a hard life

[tender shore]

😖

[wraith thistle]

Any helpers, there is cheater on Europe #2 and we can't kick him 😭

[worthy charm]

There isnt any moderation on official servers. I recommend playing on community servers, those got admins.

[wraith thistle]

Lambs to the slaughter 😭

[wraith thistle]

Can ban him account?

[wind shore]

Why cheaters in game

I have on steam some unnamed gray achievements , does anybody have that too ?

[worthy charm]

Are they like [this](#mess-hall message)?

[wind shore]

Yea but they dont have the ????? and appear only on main page , not actually earned achievements

[past spoke]

Engineer quickest way to level up

[arctic rampart]

Yeah if you take support score

But after you make nodes

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/wink-bob-the-builder-scoop-flirty-winking-gif-9844132389758996320

[wind shore]

I guess these will be patched in the next update or I need to do an achievement

[wind shore]

ok so I did an achievement and it pushed the gray ones further

[past python]

are PS5 servers still active?

[tender shore]

Yes

[past python]

okay good

[final edge]

People, are hell let loose servers free from those newbies that don't have microphone and headphones?

when i played it last time there were berely 3 people that actually talked and rarely people that did some tactics, most of the players just did nothing

[slate canopy]

Are you playing on official or community servers?

[past vortex]

its those epic players

:}

[final edge]

both

official are all full most of the time so...

[slate canopy]

Community servers you'd have more luck with microphones than official.

[past vortex]

in europe you always have enough community servers

US prob too, idk

[final edge]

also, i'm one of those also

[past vortex]

ik

me 2 btw :}

[final edge]

also, also... i should have thought about this before sending the message

[slate canopy]

Nothing wrong with Epic Players

[final edge]

something is wrong with Epic Games Launcher

[slate canopy]

I'd suggest using mic even if others aren't. It usually encourages others, which can cause everyone else, or at least a couple chat.

[past vortex]

yea i also found that just talking often helps even if no one answers

[final edge]

"I tried so hard, and... didn't get far enough..."

[slate canopy]

I mean, even if no one talks, you're telling people where a tank is or enemy is pushing or saw supplies fall down.

[past vortex]

ofc there are not just a few players around who actually dont hear it

aka those who never got voip working

[real parrot]

Epic gamers*

[wind shore]

Hello guys!

[echo karma]

Squad ue5 update. When hll?

[finite berry]

UE5 is overrated, change my mind

[past vortex]

ue5 woduld be good if they would rework the game to use the new stuff

so its kinda unrealistic

[true orchid]

Should I have a slower while ads sens?

like what is sens like in this game

[slate canopy]

I honestly don't know the settings - I play default settings 😅 (besides video settings)

[worldly monolith]

Tank spotter looking for a driver and gunner

[finite berry]

#console-looking-for-unit c:

Ah, you already found it, nevermind then c:

[worldly monolith]

Sorry, Thanks man

[cosmic pilot]

I will not

[frigid glade]

Servers are not showing up..... Can anyone help 🙏🏻

[real parrot]

Is more of actually working on the game being underrated

[slate canopy]

Do you have crossplay on ?

[past vortex]

reset filters?

[gleaming pelican]

"Authentication timed out (1/2)" WHY ?

[storm stratus]

Any news on when the next update will be with the RoadMap news we had in the past?

Looking forward to Medic changes. Feels like forever away.

[storm stratus]

Community is better.

[frigid glade]

Idk I play on pc but is there any option to disable that ?

[slate canopy]

There is, but you should have it on. Crossplay on PC is Steam, Epic, and PC Gamepasss.

[dry depot]

Toxic toxic clans....their guys mow down a whole friendly squad nothing. You accidentally tk....ban

[slate canopy]

Sometimes those TK bans are automatic, depending on the server's settings and how many tk's it requires. Just go to another server 🙂

[dry depot]

Ya when they stay in and you get a 2hr for beaming the wrong guy playing with no friendly markers

[past python]

i got my first kill

and it was damn brutal😭😭

i feel bad, ngl

[covert elbow]

It’s almost definitely at least a month away before we see any updates

[last grail]

haii

[last grail]

OMG BRACKET HAIIII

no image perms -_ ‐

[gentle lintel]

Made them leave the server, damn

[slate canopy]

😆 What

Ninja is now known as Bracket

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/bridget-bridget-guilty-gear-brisket-taunt-gif-26654715

Wait what

Where’d they go

[slate canopy]

In and out. No image perms, they were disappointed.

[gentle lintel]

They were indeed pretty silly

[covert elbow]

Fair

[tender shore]

Silly lil fella

[atomic granite]

Damn

[fast bloom]

damn

[vestal spear]

i just wish we could mod hll cause i want to see fish launched out of the AA cannons .

https://tenor.com/view/keemxdaxtruth-lmao-dead-nope-gif-14774804

[radiant knot]

Why exactly did they change the Red Cross on the medics a while ago?

They fit into the red cross’s rules, as the medics always have a weapon in game, taking away their immunity

I’m not all too knowledgeable on the red cross’s rules and whatnot so correct me if I’m wrong

[covert elbow]

Litteraly a war crime to have it in media and games

[cyan saddle]

It's a trademarked logo, you cannot use a red cross on a white background

[sick furnace]

It's illegal to misrepresent the red cross in games and things. Even medkits/healing items aren't allowed to have the emblem on them.

[past vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/white-cross-red-background-flag-gif-7546664788775906444

[cyan saddle]

Banned

[past vortex]

see

[wind shore]

the comment section of the reddit thread about medic 500 level restriction.

my. god.

this is why im in favour of gaming companies ripping off gamers

lets have a HLL battlepass

[wind shore]

it was before

it's for long time already, medic locked for lvl 500 on some servers

( and 300 lvl )

[chrome furnace]

The only thing medic got going for the class is the amount of smokes it gets

[wind shore]

throws 6 smokes because one guy with bad aim shoots at outpost from 150m

[arctic rampart]

Average HLL player on Steam Discussions and Reddit:

https://tenor.com/ut12.gif

[chrome furnace]

Drops bandage box and starts to shoot frantically with his pistol

[worthy charm]

Sad, but very true

Its not much better here tho😅

[arctic rampart]

Spawns on OP that's on a 110° flank from obj, proceeds to mag dump his mg42

[arctic rampart]

Not in suggestions and the LF unit channels

#new-recruit-barracks is justified, +rep to them for using it correctly when they eventially do

[chrome furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/keepmoving-hell-let-loose-takinggermanop-u15-update15-gif-7689767871759833939

#neverforget

[heady hornet]

just realised that he doesnt have a gun in this clip

[finite berry]

he doesn't need it

[chrome furnace]

It’s the new medic lvl 6. Full immersion

[real parrot]

OMG is that Solid face reveal? 💀

[arctic rampart]

Baiting me for a warning pretty hard there pal'

[analog apex]

oh we won't, the devs made sure of that 😄

[arctic rampart]

@analog apex Where have you been all this time?

[analog apex]

playing KCD2 and working on a mod for it.

If HLL had modding support, I would be doing it for HLL. But sadly by the time HLL gets the modding support (if ever), I guess my energy for it and for the game will be long gone by then... 😐

yesterday I played a HLL session though, after over a month of absence

gonna go back to KCD2 for a while, since this week a DLC is coming out

[arctic rampart]

Yeah, I hear KCD2 is pretty darn good. I'm guessing hotfixes since launch have already also rolled out

[analog apex]

yep, hoping to get more in this DLC update

[wind shore]

Which mode

And what’s KCD

[analog apex]

Horse progression auto-upgrades

[arctic rampart]

Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2

[analog apex]

3 sets of upgrade perks, each with 3 levels... unlocked one by one by meeting ridden distance requirements

but that's an #off-topic-mess-hall here

[arctic rampart]

If this chat is dead af, no need to swap

[analog apex]

but by god... if HLL had modding support, the playerbase would have fixed all its problems long ago

[arctic rampart]

100%

[analog apex]

would have more maps, more features and more gamemodes... and overall content

attracting more people to buy the game and stay at it in effect

[wind shore]

And it would be unrealistic mods etc

[analog apex]

no doubt there would be mods like that too

but there would be plenty of good ones, that I am sure of

especially hardcore mode related stuff that has been missing to this day

[arctic rampart]

All of Highschool: DXD in HLL 😩

If HLL modding support existed, maybe my SL watch wouldn't get flipped every time I start sprinting

[analog apex]

yep... maybe a feature 😄
started happening since the Tobruk update I believe

or Elsenborn?

[arctic rampart]

Tobruk

But did the update even touch anything in regards to anims?

Cause I am down to earth baffled, how tf do you mess it up if you don't touch it

[analog apex]

nothing to my knowledge... happened the same as with the random terrain brush stroke in Kharkov Soviet HQ probably 😄

some kid of a dev was probably playing with the stuff xD

[arctic rampart]

I might be wrong on this, but I'm pretty sure after Tobruk and even after the hotfix, that spawn is still a mess

[analog apex]

yep it is, I believe I have seen a thread about it after Tobruk, somewhere in #1356935055968043088

why didn't they fix it... beyond me as usual

[arctic rampart]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1356937672794443826

[analog apex]

yep that's the one

[real parrot]

They changed the run animation with the torch, truly an amazing change (sarcasm)

[storm stratus]

whats the go with currupt or backend issue kicks ?

[analog apex]

And it's gonna be like 1,5 months since Tobruk soon... some devBriefing would be nice.

Anybody knows if there was any word about any date/timePeriod for the closest devBriefing?

ah, nvm... found something

[wind shore]

Day 9 no hll

I think I'm going insane release me

https://tenor.com/view/sufriendo-sufrir-depress-screaming-freaking-out-gif-5756388

Awhman...

[ebon shell]

at which day will you write a manifesto

[wind shore]

10

[worthy charm]

[wind shore]

the abstinence and its consequences

[cosmic pilot]

Real

[bleak palm]

Hi all 🙂

[wind shore]

Idkkt knoe how mych more i cab take

3 more days.....and I'm free..

[wind shore]

can you play the game on pc using ps5 controller cause my friend said he cant ???

[arctic rampart]

Who tf would play with a controller if you're on PC?

Especially in a shooter

Tell your friend he's a bozo and to use a keyboard and mouse

[wind shore]

he cant play on mouse and keyboard

he has always played on console

but this game isnt crossplay

[arctic rampart]

Then tell him to learn

It'll help long-term if he's already swapped to PC

[past python]

wow

i killed my first team mate

out of pure stupidity

i confused the buttons😂

wanted to crouch, but pressed melee, cuz i still have that battlefield layout in my muscle memory

[gentle lintel]

Historically accurate

[past python]

😭😭

[wind shore]

Guys if I reset my Hell let loose steam achievements and I have a reach level 10 one will I loose that one too even if I am level 10 ?

[analog apex]

it is possible to reset the Steam achievements? I had no idea...

at least I never noticed any way to do it

[real parrot]

I would and I would fare better than most

[arctic rampart]

No and most likely

https://tenor.com/bOBztFxPtLK.gif

As a WT andie, I would expect you to use a joystick tho'

[worthy charm]

It should be possible, not sure if you can play with a PS5 controller but in general we got Controller support on PC.

I have to agree with Solid, when you play infantry on PC with Controller you have a major disadvantage.

[grizzled kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[grand fjord]

Hello, can you help me to open my rights to post recruitment messages for the LEP team? I am the general recruiter for the team.

[wind shore]

yo i may already know the answer BUT is there any way of finding my stats if i played hll on EPIC game launcher (yes i got if for free don't blame me)

[ashen basin]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/522404111409217537 ?

[arctic rampart]

Not that I've heard of in my 1.9k hours

[wind shore]

What a shame! (From hll not you)

[pine ember]

When Hell let loose WW1?

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/no-shake-my-head-golden-girls-smh-oh-man-gif-14406870892947143609

[wind shore]

When?

[empty steppe]

I’d be down for that man

Isonzo front would actually go crazy in hell let loose 😂🤣

[worthy charm]

When Hll in space?

When do we get the Spacific?

[empty steppe]

😏

[pine ember]

My Opa was there

[pine ember]

Hopefully soon

[empty steppe]

Those battles would have sucked, for both sides 😬

[pine ember]

Yep, but especially for the Italians

They surrendered en masse

[wind shore]

You wouldn’t like WW1 cause balance

[empty steppe]

I mean… the Italians didn’t do to bad against the Germans, monte grappa was extremely successful

Austrians really cooked them though for the first half of the war 😅😂

[pine ember]

It can be balanced

[pine ember]

Yep, because the Germans were gone by then

The Germans slapped them, the Austrians had some problems with it

Remember: Austrians are bad at war

[empty steppe]

Buuuut there weapons were amazing 😜

They created some pretty innovative designs

[pine ember]

Yes and no

[pine ember]

But also some pretty useless ones

[empty steppe]

Mannlicher rifles are some of my favorites of all time, the straight pull bolt is just 👌

But they did have some crappy models 😅

[pine ember]

That one is the Austrian

They are good, but the cartridge is just...

[pine ember]

Indeed they had, most of their rifles were outdated

Mannlichers are basically a half or even a generation behind the Gewehr 98/Lee Enfield

[empty steppe]

I’d say they are definitely similar to the Swedish models of the time. Still better than the carcano in my opinion when it comes to ease of use. And ergonomics

(I’m mainly talking about the m95)

[pine ember]

The Swedish are one of the best

But they hadnt had to deal with a war

[empty steppe]

Oh yes, amazing feats engineering

The Vetterli rifles were extremely ahead of there times

[pine ember]

In 1870 yes

In 1916 not so more

[empty steppe]

Well yes 😂

By 1916 everything was out of date technology had advanced so fast in warfare

[pine ember]

Yep, and SMGs were developed

And even first requirements for an assault rifle with intermediate cartridge were made in Germany

[empty steppe]

Rubin’s rifles are also pretty sweet, I basically love all the Swedish designs 😂

[pine ember]

Thats Swiss

They are... unique

As every Swiss thing

[empty steppe]

Oops 😬😭

[pine ember]

They were good in their own way, but there is a reason why every modern bolt action rifle is based on the Gewehr 98

[pine ember]

Happens

[empty steppe]

Yeah that’s not the first time I’ve done that and will not be the last 😅

[empty steppe]

Very true, I’ve shot one of those and they are great weapons

As long as you take care of them

[pine ember]

Yep, they are good

I prefer German or Finnish guns though

G41 and Suomi KP31 my beloved

StG44 is also nice, and for the modern ones the Sako M23 or HK433

[empty steppe]

Lahti M/26 is one of my favorite designs of all time ❤️

[past python]

question

is there a permanent punish for friendly fire?

somebody shot me on purpose.

so i returned the favor

on purpose: there was nobody but us two in that room

[worthy charm]

Depends on the server. I wouldnt risk it on Community servers, sometimes being the bigger person is better for everyone.

[past python]

trying to

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-there-is-no-try-do-star-wars-dont-do-gif-5918158

[past python]

i would never do this on purpose. but i will return the favor. usually.

thanks tho

[past python]

i used to play Rainbow Six. Friendly fire there was next level toxic.

and its not just a matter of just a respawn.

killing you makes an unfair balance for everyone, because you are missing for the entire round

[worthy charm]

R6 is different on more levels then just toxicity

[past python]

ah i see, another r6 player

Nett hier, aber waren sie chon mal in Baden Wurtemberg?

Only thing I know in german😂

[worthy charm]

The point in Hll is that it doesnt hurt yourself but also your team. Admins are sometimes fast to ban and others take ages to do anything.

I just assume the best and move on

[worthy charm]

BROO, you know the stickers?

[past python]

yeah, i experienced that a match later. somebody got kicked from the server over cheating

took like five damn seconds to get enough votes

[past python]

😂 yes

i don‘t speak german tho

I know the baden wurtemberg sticker and 187 strassenbande

and of course some slurs

FEINDLICHE STIELHANDGRANATE

[worthy charm]

I found one at a viewing platform of mount Fuji😂

[past python]

I have no idea what this means tho

[past python]

crazy💀

[worthy charm]

My father was confused why I wasnt serious for the next hour.

[past python]

rumor has it that Elon Musk will place one on mars

well. if he ever manages to create a working rocket

[past python]

hahaha

[worthy charm]

Baden-Würtenberg is a state in germany. It means as much as "Nice here, but have you ever been to Baden-Würtemberg?"

[past python]

nice😂

DEUTSHLAND UBER ALLEM

Rammstein

[past python]

The inexistent one?

Or was this a city

[worthy charm]

Yeah, that was Bielefeld.

[past python]

Hahaha

I have to ask my wife. She‘s swiss

I already know Schmelzkäse

The term

[finite berry]

It actually was an idea by the state of Baden-Württemberg to get more tourists to travel to their federal state. For some reason, it turned into a meme lol

[kindred cloak]

Why is there an issue with people trying to join my in game party

[covert elbow]

Wonder if they’ll do another Q&A. Love to ask some more questions

[slate canopy]

I'm sure they plan on it... as to when? 🤷‍♀️

[covert elbow]

Well I thought they were going to do it regularly but here we are

Maybe in a couple of months I guess

Or a year. Probably a year

[dusty bolt]

Good morning chat

[teal drift]

excuse me , are servers in asia all being ddos now?

[past python]

I am finally getting into Hell Let Loose

After dying over and over again, I finally managed to have a good round. And damn, what a good round it was

Me and some other guy were going into the forest to hunt down enemy players. Leading to 15 confirmed kills on my side.
I know that kills dont matter that much in this game, but it still boosts my ego.

[naive nest]

Rounds are only get better when you got beer and MG

[serene spear]

Would you like to see more regular structured Q&A's around certain topics, or general Q&A's about the game?

[covert elbow]

Both

Have it like 1 then the other

[serene spear]

What do you think about having more regular developer briefings that aren't tied to specific updates or PTEs? More work-in-progress content towards the road map.

[arctic rampart]

Literally everyone would love that

There's not a single, reasonable, down-side to it, especially now when we have a dedicated CM.

[covert elbow]

What we’ve been asking for years

But like it’s not going to happen

There’s not enough going on at T17 to justify more updates

Like did you see the roadmap? That’s like maybe 3-5 months of work, not an entire year

I bet they wouldn’t mind doing more updates and Q&A’s but they litteraly can’t because nothing worthwhile is happening

[arctic rampart]

And they outsource it, it's not like they have the devs sitting there in a office that you can just go up to them and ask for a screenie or smth

[covert elbow]

Yep

[arctic rampart]

I'm guessing with how rushed the mehcanic parts are of these past few updates, wouldn't be surprised if they outsource the task like 2-3 weeks before it gets released.
That's also why I believe the whole xp changes were so scuffed and short-sighted in the development.

• They didn't even play the game so they didn't know how to plan it out
• Anyone who does play it, instantly knew it can be abused
  And it wasn't even a whole new system, they just threw some functions around already existing systems to do the xp rewarding

[covert elbow]

Yea

The devs say they play the game but like… if they do play it’s like once a month and their running around like headless chickens

[serene spear]

Interesting, cheers both.

[covert elbow]

Cheers to you. Are ya secretly an undercover dev?

[misty jacinth]

Why does lvl 1 russian AT suck

[noble aurora]

oop

[wind shore]

1st lvl loadout is better then 8lvl loadout

[misty jacinth]

Doesn't lvl 9 russian AT get rockets?

Or lvl 8

[covert elbow]

Kedo your smoking if you think the AT rifle is anywhere near the bazooka

[wind shore]

No, for me AT rifle is the best

need another 1 for Germans PzB. 39 or 38

@misty jacinth +

[misty jacinth]

Oh yeah I love emptying 4 mags in the back of a panther just to engine the thing

[wind shore]

your skills, is it always about the win

[covert elbow]

No the AT rifle use does not damage

[wind shore]

but it's correct

[covert elbow]

It’s the worst AT option in the entire game

[wind shore]

panzerschreks it's 1944 loadout , in Africa and EF maps it's innaccurate mostly

[covert elbow]

It’s not even good at disabling tank components which is its entire job

[wind shore]

rifles is more accurate, piat works, but boys rifle is better

[finite berry]

AT rifles were outdated in WW2 anyway considering their original purpose

They still had their use on the battlefield, but against tanks, they were virtually useless the further the war progressed

[misty jacinth]

I don't want to disable a panther I want it dead

[wind shore]

skills issue. But Panther crew won't

[covert elbow]

Like sure it’s accurate but that doesn’t make it good

[wind shore]

yes, do you want to watch a video how enlisted was buried by players who don't understand what is ww2 setting

[covert elbow]

If BM had actually made them good at disabling components without killing the tank they could have a niche and be best used in conjunction with a satchel player. But they didnt and so it’s just bad to use

Like I’d rather go through the pain of getting a support to follow me around to set up an AT gun rather then use the PTRS

[finite berry]

Disable it and call in tank support

[arctic rampart]

I would, please share

[real parrot]

Enlisted was buried by the greed of the snail. So much potential wasted for the sake of money

[misty jacinth]

Why do that when you can kill it 😅

You can just pick an AT loadout to kill the tank not disable it

[wind shore]

lol sorry, i'm asking my friend, i lost that link but i will ask him to send it

he was saying about King Tigers in Stalingrad, how the game was related to ratio, and all stuff was buried under tons of anachronisms

[past vortex]

the bazooka also wont get you a kill on a heavy

[arctic rampart]

nw, sounds like an interesting watch

[novel geyser]

Nothing wrong with picking at rifle over a launcher out of spite for the historical inaccuracies, and yes current eastern front maps and north africa maps should only have at rifles, but that doesnt make them good

[arctic rampart]

I just remember the game being dogwater

[past vortex]

rockets also dont kill heavies

[wind shore]

it's about the money. The difference is, if they make 20$ squad, it should be the cool quality of it. But in Enlisted they sell "unique" squad, for 20$ with just a description of wikipedia page of this division, no unique at all. You pay for logo in menu, and the description

[past vortex]

i always wonder what many at players are up to

[wind shore]

this division was formed in 1938, etc. That's in menu, but the difference is 0 between all their squads etc

[past vortex]

thats not true

[novel geyser]

I mean, they do just usually one extra rocket you dont have. But it would be quicker to kill a heavy with a rocket launcher than with an at rifle by like 2 years or so

[past vortex]

actually most payed squads are worse in enlisted :}

[past vortex]

in theory an at rifle can kill 2 heavies

[wind shore]

they haven't added nothing unique from it, they have 8 uniforms and all of them are innaccurate, what difference btw squads. Volksturm in African maps, they prefer made this, in Enlisted

and partisans in Berlin 1945

[past vortex]

how about the weapons and the stats ? :D

[wind shore]

paper

[past vortex]

wut

[wind shore]

it's paper, not real

they have added for "balance" , tank which was only 1 in WW2,in Pacific

[past vortex]

not sure what you are taling about

[wind shore]

or "zombie" tanks, with red thing from the factory

[past vortex]

you dont seem to be much into the game :}

[wind shore]

yes, but you see Volksturm in Africa, in civilian grey caps with short PPSH running in desert lol

King Tigers in Stalingrad

[past vortex]

are you aware why

[wind shore]

FG42....

[wind shore]

enlisted devs don't know what is WW2 game or setting

[past vortex]

bs

[wintry thistle]

The answer is they don’t care for historical accuracy

[past vortex]

they had to give up the campaigns because there were not enough players to fill all the queues

[wintry thistle]

I’m sure they know it’s not accurate but they don’t care

[past vortex]

so they mashed it all together

[novel geyser]

Money often times speaks louder than having an actually good game

[past vortex]

they were actually very sorry about it

[wintry thistle]

I know WT doesn’t really care to much about 100% accuracy, so I can’t see enlisted caring. I haven’t followed enlisted so I have no clue what their agenda for the game was

[past vortex]

it was much better with the seperate campaigns accuracy wise

but that made for too many queues so it was all bots always

[wintry thistle]

I remember having to unlock the KAR98 which was kinda a red flag for accuracy

[novel geyser]

Needing to unlock any standard issue rifle was a red flag

[past vortex]

minor unloc

laughable in face of the whole grind :}

[wind shore]

Enlisted could added paid vehicles and things in game. But they could do it more accurate

they had this option , and didn't care actually

[past vortex]

they are long past any reasonable additions :D

they already have everything and the kitchen sink so it can only get crazier

[novel geyser]

Go play easy red 2 its the better game

[wind shore]

yes

it's crazy what they did

they started add mods content as paid

in Enlisted

[past vortex]

despite all the downsides of enlisted... hll makes you really appreciate it :D

[wind shore]

so to burry the game under short ppsh , which was not necessary to add, it was bad idea for them)

[past vortex]

no one uses that, it might as well not be there

just as with most of the stuff

but there are enough people who like to collect stuff... doesnt matter to you if you play meta

[wind shore]

But so many of those stuff

[past vortex]

^^

[wind shore]

I have seen it

[past vortex]

ignoreable stuff :}

[wind shore]

Yes, Enlisted after it

[finite berry]

It's just my inner realism-nerd speaking up again, but I like the idea that AT often can only disable a tank, thus requiring team support to actually destroy it.

[worthy charm]

I can fully agree with that. One guy taking out a tank alone is kinda boring.

[past vortex]

xp system is sadly fully contra

[finite berry]

I'd even say that it's immersion-breaking because anti-tank units do not work like that

[worthy charm]

Sometimes you dont need anyone though

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1371498879018860685

[worthy charm]

Im not a big fun of the XP System to begin with...

At least there is Bob to make that grind a bit better.

[finite berry]

Video games (and I'd even say that even games like Squad suffer from this problem) suffer from two problems:

-tanks being too tanky and tank crews basically never abandoning their tank (because it's a game)
-AT soldiers being too sneaky, too mobile and too deadly

[past vortex]

you need to lighten up

[finite berry]

In reality, shooting off a track could be enough to make a tank crew bail

[past vortex]

a good tank crew basically cant be killed by inf at all

[worthy charm]

I mostly die by tanks when Im the commander, sometimes is just bad gameplay for example when you get satcheled after getting stuck for 0.005 seconds.

[past vortex]

most crews make some mistakes
but some are really unkillable by inf

[wind shore]

@arctic rampart
it’s enlisted , how it was buried. * no promotion, just video analysis of Enlisted

It’s for all who think that turns HLL into arcade , on the example of Enlisted , and cut the content which is not anachronistic, and adding anachronisms

[scenic wigeon]

hi

[molten aspen]

what is that AI goonerbait thumbnail

[wind shore]

It’s a voice

[finite berry]

Just because a different game is even worse in that regard doesn't mean that HLL isn't turning into arcade (which it already is anyway)

[wind shore]

Yes, it doesn’t mean

I meant it’s for players who wants to turn it into arcade

In example of Enlisted , to watch

The player who played enlisted since beta , it’s his thoughts

Just converted from different language, he is non native English speaker

[novel geyser]

AT grenades would pair great with at rifles

[finite berry]

Yeah, but they'd only be viable against poorly armoured vehicles or tracks

[novel geyser]

Molotovs having some at capabilities would be great too

Less tanks blowing up and more disabling and forcing the crew to abandon or repair

[finite berry]

Won't happen tho because every player wants to make tank go boom :(

[novel geyser]

Though there's never usually much incentive for the crew to abandon unless the tank is fully broke beyond repair and there's something discouraging redeploying

More destruction types for tanks is a must in general though from a slow burn out to turret flying off explosion

[wintry thistle]

I think it’s impossible to have crews want to bail out of tanks. It’s better 100% of the time to stay in the tank. Talking about all games that feature vehicles

Maybe if crew men cost a huge amount of tickets. Not referring to HLL obviously

[silk igloo]

what if team starts with better quality troop tickets and they're left with scraps if they die too much

[finite berry]

Exactly this

[wintry thistle]

That could work, but it depends on what better/lower quality means

[finite berry]

Only if tank crews were a limited resource of their own

[novel geyser]

Could go the easy red 2 route and a tank crew have to run to a specific place behind the lines to escape and puts you back into the deploy screen without dying

[wintry thistle]

Hmmm, that might actually be a good idea. Tanks are limited in squad 44 so perhaps something similar

[finite berry]

Yeah, but even there tank crews are part of the normal tickets pool (in armoured game mode, it's different, tho), so people basically willingly go down with their tank/they don't try to save themselves at all

[finite berry]

Yeah, exactly

[silk igloo]

Slower reload, jankier turret turn (overshooting the target), slower turret turn, easier to stall the engine. And you'd know if your next troop quality was going to drop from an Ace to a conscript if you die.

[novel geyser]

We need an alternative offensive mode with a focus on the limitations of the real battles, so some teams get no tanks while others do, or both get tanks but the selection is more limited and finite

[past python]

enlisted is boring

i rather play Battlefield V

[finite berry]

Nah, that's not a good idea

Having the game nerf your gameplay/increase the chance of RNG-induced tank systems failing is not fun for anyone

[silk igloo]

it'd have to be an entirely new game with mechanics like that, of course. but it'd be a way to incentivise survival

[wind shore]

It's day 10 without hll now.

[past python]

so?

[wind shore]

I don't think I'm gonna survive much longer I'm having withdrawals

I think I have the urge to bomb a country

[past python]

hahaha

i thought that you‘re trying to boycott HLL

Like people boycott COD

and I mean, they are right

[misty jacinth]

I like HLL why is there a boycott

[finite berry]

Dissatisfaction with the development and barebones state of the game's mechanics

But there is no boycott, just many people are not happy with the game

Although it's still fun, I guess

[past python]

i like it so far

once people jump off COD, they will see that there is an entire world of great fps games

such as hell let loose, enlisted and battlefield, to just name a few

[finite berry]

Problem is that they bring their mentality over to HLL

Which is another problem some players have been highlighting for years

That "CoD kiddies" have been flooding HLL

Players who do not understand how games like HLL are supposed to be played

And Battlefield players aren't any better often, sadly

[misty jacinth]

Yeah I started with battlefield, then to squad, foxhole, and now HLL

[past python]

hell yeah thats a problem.

why do i know? i am no COD kid, but battlefield and especially rainbow six

and even i have trouble not counting my kills

[finite berry]

You went from Battlefield directly to Squad? Wow xD

[past python]

hahaha

[finite berry]

It's less about kills and more about the lack of teamwork, squad cohesion and communication

[past python]

i never liked COD tbh.

I always played Battlefield and Rainbow Six

Hell, I even was Top 250 for a short period of time in R6 hahaha

But that was a long time ago

[past python]

yeah i know. but its hard to get rid of that mindset

[finite berry]

To me, they're all the same; R6S is different, but it looks so goofy with its operators and skins that it lost its original flair, I guess

[past python]

i did have a lot of fun yesterday. we were playing skirmish on the map with the chapel on the hill.

and squad member and i went to kill some players in the woods. i got back with ten confirmed kills.

was really great

[finite berry]

And that's the problem. Like someone on Reddit once put it:

What happened to this game is introducing so many new players in a really short amount of time, that it is impossible for the veterans to hand down their skills to the newer players. This phenomenon is called alienation and is very normal if an uncontrolled and immense influx of people joins an established group.

[past python]

I love R6S more than ever. The introduction of Deimos brought wallhacks to the game.

But they're not OP. Yeah, you get wallhacks on a specific player (and only that specific one), but you can't use your primary weapon as long as they're active.

[cosmic pilot]

Bs

[past python]

Also: The wallhacked enemy can see you too.

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/chernobyl-i-prefer-my-opinion-to-yours-ussr-soviet-union-belarus-gif-27686525

[past python]

Its a good trade imo

You see his position in real time, and he sees yours with an update every 2 seconds

[past python]

hahahaha fair enough

i see that

the respawn system kinda sucks. I get the idea of it (building and destroying spawn points), but the game becoming a walking simulator sometimes ... yeah, no.

[cosmic pilot]

Use truck

[past python]

i dont want the spawn system to be nerfed, but at least make it easier and faster to go back to the death marker

[past python]

even after the round starts?

[cosmic pilot]

Yes

[past python]

crazy

i didn't know that

and hell

i am an absolute veteran of the game. nobody is as good as me

i have 2 hours in total

absolute veteran

(i'm joking btw)

[cosmic pilot]

I couldn't tell

[past python]

the funny thing is: there are still people that think that i'm serious

hahaha

[misty jacinth]

Yeah... it was rough

I do enjoy squad fortifications and supply system more than HLL

[past python]

crazy

do you play battlefield 2042?

the javelin there makes my wet dreams come true.

blowing up vehicles with an auto-targeting rocket

[misty jacinth]

Not really I was more of a bf4, bf1, and bf5 kinda guy

Bf5 over bf1

[past python]

Agreed

I loved Battlefield 5

The lack of customization in Battlefield 1 (different scopes etc.) makes it less fun to play

And I mean actual scopes. Not the minimal customization you get

[misty jacinth]

The going straight to squad or liking the squad supply system more?

[past python]

yeah

which madman enabled slow mode here

slow mode in general chat is such a stupid thing to enable, ngl

[misty jacinth]

I love the squad heli pilots dropping supplies vs the air supply drops in HLL

[past python]

i guess so hahaha

i dont know how it works in hll

[finite berry]

Yep, HLL is very barebones in that regard.

Although I must say that HLL is a great way of introducing casual shooter players to more sophisticated games

[past python]

Sorry I have to ask. What are you talking about?

[finite berry]

That Squad's supply and logistics system is better than HLL's

[past python]

Is Battlefield casual to you?

[finite berry]

Absolutely

[misty jacinth]

Very casual

[finite berry]

What else would it be xD

[past python]

haha yeah, good point

[novel geyser]

Battlefield is milsim

[past python]

but if battlefield is casual. what is cod?

[novel geyser]

Also casual

[finite berry]

Casual

Both games are casual

[past python]

Imo, COD is worse than casual, ngl

should get its own term

[novel geyser]

Casual arcade shooters that just do it differently

[finite berry]

Just because CoD is goofier, dumber and faster than Battlefield doesn't mean Battlefield is any less a casual shooter

[finite berry]

Exactly

And HLL is also casual but with a OHK system, barebones logistics and barebones tanks

[novel geyser]

Even hll is casual in a way
Just a casual hardcore shooter as opposed to casual arcade

[past python]

dont forget the addition of snoop dogg, godzilla, king kong and so on to a WW2 game

[novel geyser]

But it just barely makes it to hardcore status imo

[finite berry]

Yep

Objectively, HLL is a casual shooter with some hardcore aspects; it could be more, but its mechanics are too lacking for it

Subjectively, it depends on perspective

To a Battlefield player, HLL will seem like an ultra realistic mil-sim

To players like me, HLL seems like Battlefield that miserably fails at trying to be a mil-sim

[past python]

i am one. and its more realistic, not ultra realistic

[novel geyser]

Big map + ohk = milsim clearly

[past python]

the most realistic shooter i ever played probably is arma reforger

[finite berry]

It is more realistic than Battlefield, yes, but HLL still is an arcade casual shooter

[vestal skiff]

Kap

[finite berry]

OHK and barebones logistics raise it above Battlefield

[vestal skiff]

HLL better than battlefield

[finite berry]

I'd even say that HLL's tanking system is almost on par with Battlefield's

[misty jacinth]

In squad there's 2 types of supplies. Type 1 is construction for building and type 2 is ammunition for resupply/rearming. You don't spawn with all your equipment fully stocked you need to take ammo from the spawn

[vestal skiff]

Way more realistic too

[finite berry]

You can't say that in general. It depends on what experience the respective player wants.

[past python]

i am still waiting for ready or not.

i used to work in a police special unit until the birth of my daughter.

and damn, ready or not really does a good job in depicting the likeness of a real mission.

[misty jacinth]

Feels like bf5 tanking

[finite berry]

That's true

[vestal skiff]

In general Hell Let Loose is better than any Battlefield game.

[finite berry]

Still no

[novel geyser]

Ima be honest I love ready or not but I think sometimes they go way over board for a "realism first" game

[finite berry]

If the respective player is not interested in a OHK shooter, Battlefield will be the better game to him

[vestal skiff]

🧢

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-gif-342047954663834333

[finite berry]

Not cap, facts :D

[past python]

well, i can only tell my side and share my experiences from when i was part of the special unit.

ready or not truly shows how such a mission is.

sure, they don't know everything and some stuff makes no sense. but damn, its really good

[novel geyser]

Honestly I think objectively battlefield beats hll in most things. Subjectively it just depends what you're looking for in your shooter

[finite berry]

To both of us, HLL will be the better pick compared to Battlefield. But that doesn't mean it's like that for every player

[wintry thistle]

BF is better

[past python]

they're on the same level imo

[finite berry]

Exactly

Eh, nope

[past python]

depends on what i am looking for at the moment

[finite berry]

Gameplay is still vastly different because in Battlefield, OHK weapons are the exception. In HLL, they are the rule.

[vestal skiff]

Your wrong.

[finite berry]

*You're

And no, I'm not.

[misty jacinth]

I think BF is just large cod, HLL is baby's first milsim, squad is a milsim, arma is a bit much, and foxhole hates you

[novel geyser]

You're*

Damn... beat me to it..

[vestal skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mocking-mocking-cross-eyed-blah-blah-blah-sticking-out-tongue-gif-3438376097596276392

[finite berry]

HLL is no mil-sim, not even a baby 😄

[vestal skiff]

YOuRe

[novel geyser]

Babies first squad

[finite berry]

Don't blame me that I'm right and on top are more educated than you

[vestal skiff]

HLL is Milsim

[finite berry]

Celdis, you need to rename yourself

[novel geyser]

Squad is bordering milsim imo but not fully there or just barely a milsim

Arma and foxhole is true milsim

[vestal skiff]

You don’t even own HLL stfu loser

[past python]

chill

[vestal skiff]

Lmaoo

[misty jacinth]

I love foxhole 🙂

[novel geyser]

I wish it's combat was a little better tbh

[past python]

also. we all know what the only true fps is.

fortnite

[novel geyser]

I still remember nailing someone twice and it just didn't register

[finite berry]

Took you so long to realise

And yet I understand HLL better than you. I think that tells more about you than me lol

[misty jacinth]

I love the furry review of foxhole

[past python]

dont argue. its not worth your time

[finite berry]

On one hand, you're right. On the other hand, it's fun.

[vestal skiff]

Yea listen to your boy

[past python]

its like an accident. you know you shouldn't look, but you cant help

[novel geyser]

Let me put this in a language you can understand...
Wort wort wort

[past python]

i'm not male, brother

[north imp]

anyone else crashing after Nvidia Driver update ver.576.40?

[vestal skiff]

wtf

[vestal skiff]

Gotcha

[wintry thistle]

What’s wrong about looking at an accident

[past python]

problem?

[finite berry]

Watch him becoming 110% more polite towards you for "some reason" 😄

[past python]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-catstare-cat-stare-sus-catglare-cat-glare-gif-14942558849944709546

[vestal skiff]

I didn’t know females play this

[finite berry]

120%

[past python]

now you know

[vestal skiff]

There’s no way

[novel geyser]

B-but this is a game about war and guns this is a boys only club

[vestal skiff]

Facts

[past python]

brother, i was working in a police special unit up until 2024. i am no stranger to guns 😂

i am 35

old af

[vestal skiff]

Oh ur a fed

[past python]

was*

[vestal skiff]

USA?

[past python]

nope

[vestal skiff]

Oh

[past python]

anyway

[vestal skiff]