mess-hall

[worthy charm]

2h💀

As if my attention span is that long

[south lion]

Is it just me or has the game gotten more buggy

[pine breach]

[viscid grail]

Invisible walls which stop you from lying down

[keen glen]

tobruk sucks

[empty steppe]

Happy Easter everyone 🐣

[cosmic pilot]

You suck

[empty steppe]

Ima be honest, with Hll I’m to the point where i just can’t pick it up when I have time to play anymore, I’m like “do I really wanna deal with people today?” 😅😂

[cosmic pilot]

We shoot people for being honest around here

[empty steppe]

Good that’s how it should be

Do the honors

[cosmic pilot]

Blindfold and smoke?

🙈 🚬

[empty steppe]

😵

[eager crypt]

Sooooo… when’s the next update? 😬 I’ll even be happy with an update about the update for now.

I do hope there are plans jn the making to improve framerate on Tobruk and fix the ugly, staircas-y storm effect.

[arctic rampart]

lol

New around here?

[slate canopy]

Next update as in.... Hot fix? Next map?

[arctic rampart]

We get a "meaningful" update (yes in the quotes) every 6 months or so

[cosmic pilot]

What do you mean staircase like storm effect

[onyx raptor]

Hi

[finite berry]

Joined in 2024

[arctic rampart]

I saw that, it was meant to poke fun at the fact he doesn't know that updates come on a once per blue moon basis

[smoky igloo]

hi

[slate canopy]

Welcome in

[finite berry]

How about a game of Gwent?

[smoky igloo]

i absolutly love gwent but i never got into the witcher because i don't have a controller

[finite berry]

Play with mouse and keyboard?

Or buy a physical copy of Gwent?

[oak coral]

Optimizing and fixage

[slate canopy]

We just had a hotfix a littl bit ago. I imagine will get another one, since there are still known issues.

[thorny acorn]

optimization is a rarity in games nowadays

[oak coral]

110% true

best optimized game of all time : black ops 3 / advanced warfare

[oak coral]

yes we did, the mg bug is being work arounded, they can't full fix controller bug or this so they make more loopholes to have it happen less. very good thing to do from team 17 myo.

[keen glen]

u gotta be joking

[oak coral]

no

4060 getting 240 fps

[thorny acorn]

by that logic its csgo

[oak coral]

without mods, then was getting 219, csgo is good to

[thorny acorn]

u could get like 1000fps in that game

[oak coral]

but ive never tested it yet

waiting to get paid so i can pay car off

[keen glen]

i just googled doom 1993 is the most optimized game

[oak coral]

i was going by what i played xD

i mean ya 1000fps, but like bruh. graphics

[thorny acorn]

og doom can run on a calculator

i played it its so fun

[oak coral]

where do u go for it

not on steam, battlenet, and not on epic.

might just piracy it.

[thorny acorn]

piracy probably, the game is so old now it doesn't matter

[covert elbow]

Pretty sure it’s on steam for like $5

[cloud crest]

Hello

[covert elbow]

How we gaming gamers?

Anyone letting their hell loose tonight?

[nova pivot]

Sadly not tonight

😔

[ebon solar]

test

[keen glen]

wasting my 20s playing war simulation

hell yeah

[oak current]

Theres other games or hobbies available

[tender shore]

I've seen what other 20 year Olds are up to, trust me you ain't wasting your 20s

[nova pivot]

Not wasting, Investing

[echo nova]

U18 WHEN???°

[echo nova]

Hello kitty island adventure came out
Must try

[oak current]

whatever makes one happy

[cosmic pilot]

Could be wasting your 20s playing war not simulation

[eager crypt]

The sandstorm effect has some pretty horrible jagging/aliasing at times that are pretty jarring. There’s a post about it in U17 feedback: https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1358738602812510348

[eager crypt]

Been here on and off since the EA release, actually. Just like to take temporary breaks from the Discord when the stupidity gets too unbearable 😉

[covert elbow]

From the devs previous patterns it’ll be somewhere near October

Most likely November-January for the Soviet map

[echo nova]

I thought the roadmaps will have thr regular updates

[covert elbow]

Hahahaha!

No

[echo nova]

I mean
It is 2025 roadmap no?

[covert elbow]

We might get a 17.5 for the Stalingrad refresh but U18 will absolutely be U18

[covert elbow]

It is

But we’ve been around this block for years now

Drip fed content over the course of a year with unmeaningful changes

[echo nova]

Ok ok got it

[eager crypt]

People are so jaded now that they forgot to enjoy a decent thing when they have one. I remember the days we had a box release, one to two patches, and that was it!

Sure the game ain’t perfect, but I’m sure we’ve all had more hours of fun than the price tag it asks for.

[covert elbow]

When those games released they were also fully finished games with some bugs that needed fixing

HLL is blatantly unfinished in almost all of its areas of gameplay

[covert elbow]

It ain’t perfect and I’ve had my fun. Don’t mean I’m not going to call out its numerous flaws and issues

[echo nova]

It is really fun
One of the best ww2 experiences out there

[covert elbow]

I’ve played long enough that the bads of the game overshadows the good. Glad your still enjoying it though

Have you joined a group? That makes the game 100x better

Coordination and communication brings the game to the next level

[echo nova]

Yessir.
Wth

[echo nova]

I mean
The optimisation and AA could be better

I can see the pixels

[covert elbow]

There’s a lot of fundamental game issues I could talk about but I doubt you want to get into it

[echo nova]

Yea I Don't really
I really like the game

[oak coral]

hell let loose

start it find a server, click on it, it's the infinite 3 dot thing, ive uninstalled, validated files n idk what else to do.

[covert elbow]

Then keep on enjoying brother

[oak coral]

should i just ask for a refund ?

[slate canopy]

It's a visual bug. You should still join.

When there is an opening, obviously.

[eager crypt]

A refreshing take, to be sure. A lot of people on here live and breathe by this game, so much so they forgot it’s actually just a game. Ultimately, I think that giving so much room for input to « gamers », one if not the most obnoxious crowd to deal with and try to please, was a mistake the game industry made along the way 😅

[covert elbow]

I can agree. But HLL is of the modern game where it releases unfinished and then the devs just don’t bother to actually fix the game. Instead just putting more stuff in game rather than fixing existing content

Best way I’ve put HLL is a lump of coal. It can be treated, pressurized, and then polished into a diamond and geniually make one of the best WW2 games of all times. Instead since launch the devs have just put more bits of coal onto the lump to make it bigger but not any better

And those lumps have been a very mixed bag regarding quality

[eager crypt]

I hear you, and I’m not oblivious to the cynicism that reigns supreme in this industry about maximizing profits in an already over-tapped-for-attention space. It just so disheartening to go from one community to another and just hear people complain over and over and over again about stuff that, let’s be real, will most likely never be fixed. I get the passion of wanting something you like to be the best it can be. I’ve been there, I’ve written the long, des tailed posts about « what loadouts should truly be » or « how gunplay should feel », I eventually just decided to be a stoic about it and enjoy what I got, being thankful that we have that at all.

[covert elbow]

Yea I’ve gone the other way haha. I don’t play the game anymore mainly because I get frustrated more than I get enjoyment anymore unless I’m playing with friends. I’ll just keep on putting forth ideas and questions that I know will never be seen or answered after that last dev Q&A

[oak coral]

okay so

20 minutes later and my game still hasnt let me in, theres 49 players.....

[slate canopy]

And you're sure you're in queue?

What server are you trying to join?

[eager crypt]

That’s a pretty solid metaphor. Also one that reflects the industry as a whole more than, I’m sure, actual devs’ desires. I’d like to believe there are a lot of folks on this team that would love to address the long-standing problems the game has, but then these don’t sell additional units the way their publisher wants and pushes for. I’m with you that’s there’s something incredibly rotten at the core of our industry where every game has to be a live game, with floods of content, rather than making the gameplay the best it can be. It’s just not something I find personally worth going depressed/obsessed over.

[finite berry]

Let alone the seeming necessity to have something to grind for in every game

Man, back when you didn't play a game because of a grind, but simply because it was fun 🥲

[covert elbow]

That’s why double AA games and indie is the way to go. They also have handled live games 1000x better than triple A. Deep rock and Helldivers 2 are the golden examples of live service games

[slate canopy]

I guess I'm just too lazy for this game. I play the game for the game, because I enjoy it. I'm not really critical of it... I don't care for the grind - I'll get there, eventually... or maybe never. 🤷‍♀️

[finite berry]

good way to look at it

[covert elbow]

Also I still can’t get over the days saying so many times “Oh we listen to the community yea!” and then immediately showed they don’t lmao

Was sadly funny

[finite berry]

That's just stereotypical, meaningless corporate blah blah

There are very few instances only where you can genuinely believe what's getting said

Getting said? Being said?

[covert elbow]

Not a bad way to play games. That’s why I play but HLL is different for me. Probably because I do love this game for what it can be but isn’t as of now

[slate canopy]

Keep in mind, I play gatcha games too... where you NEED to grind for the right build. I'm just like "Eh, I'll work for what I can... and let it be good enough. As long as I can play and enjoy, I don't care."

I'm too old to care about fussing of the details to perfection or ideal loadouts.

[covert elbow]

I used to play gacha games a bit but I stopped for whatever reason. Fate/ Grand Order was my game of choice

[eager crypt]

I can’t speak for the DRG community, but I’ve seen how critical the Helldivers community also gets, scrutinizing every little thing, finding all the « poorly balanced weapons » here, the « overpowered enemies » there. I think the only community I can think of that’s been generally positive has to be the Baldur’s Gate one (rightfully so).

[covert elbow]

Oh yea I don’t interact with game community’s like… ever

I just enjoy the games. Like I said though HLL being the exception

[slate canopy]

I used to play Genshin and ZZZ (kinda stopped, kinda bored of it). Wuwa is my go-to right now... although lots of controversy in that right now for the anniversary event at the end of the month.😆

(I think the reason I like Wuwa is because I can skip conversations 🤫 )

[covert elbow]

What’s Wuwa?

[slate canopy]

Wuthering Waves

[eager crypt]

I hear you. Naive little old me went into the whole Discord rabbit hole thinking « yay, a place to find passionate and like-minded folks who share my enthusiasm for X game » 😬

[covert elbow]

Ah

That’s after my time haha

[slate canopy]

Well it's 1st year anniversary this year so lol

[covert elbow]

I mean it’s kinda sad because I did find that here. Just not from the devs lmao

[pale lava]

why my VIOP disconnected
LastAudioInputDevice=
LastAudioOutputDevice=

If anyone wants to help me, I will be grateful

[slate canopy]

You may have better luck in #1271718922734796865 ?

[pale lava]

thank you

[thin comet]

you defo took a wrong turn!

[livid saffron]

VOIP hasnt worked today. I deleted cache from Steam and restarted. It doesnt work

[slate canopy]

You have just one audio input/output?

[livid saffron]

I use a focusrite audio interface for my headphones

and my mic goes into my pc via usb

im also music proudcer i never had this issue with any other game

[river rover]

You usually need to have a single MIC and single PLAYBACK device and disable all others. Be sure to set those 2 items as your Windows Default Devices. Then do a SOUND RESET in Windows. Then join a game and see if you can see the waves for the channel you are using in game. See if people can hear you and if you can hear them.

[livid saffron]

Maybe

[pale lava]

I think it's from game user settings file in config if you can take it copy I can do it manually actually and off Corse I am making sure the game have access to firewall private and public too

just search for this in the file and tell me what is written their

LastAudioInputDevice=
LastAudioOutputDevice=

[river rover]

I don't have those in mine period.

[past vortex]

its not set for me, same as yours

[past vortex]

i wonder where the game keeps the setting, its not in the config at all 🤔

nvm its because i have it on default

[quick root]

im level 45 and im wondering what division i should join

[winter smelt]

join 10th mountain divison

[sharp path]

@quick root If you're 17+ this is a great clan. https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1343276412450377778

[quick root]

is there a minimum age limit on this server?

[sharp path]

17

[full bronze]

why does this game still use so much f*ing ram

its using 4GB right now and my FPS is like 40 constantly

this has been an issue for years

[analog apex]

why does this game still use so much f*ing ram
huh? 4 is not that much

honestly I would be surprised if it took just as little

these days, having 16GB of RAM is a minimum HW requirement for the most games @full bronze

HLL's system requirements are pretty outdated on Steam but still, even there the minimum says 12 GB of RAM so not sure what you are up to

[full bronze]

maybe its just the server

if the game was optimized it would not be using 4gb more like 2gb

[analog apex]

when it comes to amount of RAM usage, HLL feels quite OK imo...

it could use optimzation yes, but not of this sort... unless the micro-stutters would be caused by it 😄

[full bronze]

i can play fine on 100/100 player servers but then sometimes it just uses up a ton of memory and has FPS drops

[analog apex]

some maps are more stuttery, some are less

the worst are Stalingrad and Remagen

but the micro stutters are present pretty much on every map for most the players, regardless their HW strength

I have 64 GB RAM and it has nothing to do with the stutters - they are still there

[real parrot]

Its not about RAM but ratter lag spikes and FPS drops that no one knows why happens.

[analog apex]

☝️

In any case, those micro-stutters were originally present only on Stalingrad and Remagen, but after one of the 1st Team17's HLL updates/patches, they got spread to all the maps and got even worse on those 2 mentioned maps at the same time.

[full bronze]

if you look up "hell let loose memory leak" there's quite a few people talking about the game eating up RAM

[storm stratus]

4GB isn’t much at all…

[arctic rampart]

When tf will #1098158460463480842 get cleared out?

[wind shore]

?

[arctic rampart]

Just think the thing needs to be cleared out. For every 1 decent post there's 30 crap posts at this point.

And we all know just from the QnA that no dev really checks it

[frank walrus]

Pope Francis just passed 🥲

[plucky sundial]

Anyone want to run a tank crew on Xbox with me

[wind shore]

They said they watch it, in Q & A , but they need to analyse and sort them

Cause a lot of suggestions

[oak current]

Happy Easter all

[wind shore]

Happy Easter!

[arctic rampart]

They don't do jack

[wind shore]

What’s means do jack

[arctic rampart]

"jack" is vulgar slang for "anything at all" or the least of a thing usually in a negative sense.

So to say they don't do jack is to say they don't do anything at all

[covert elbow]

They absolutely do not pay attention to the suggestions page with how they answered their “ideas” for reworks and changes

[worthy charm]

We are getting a tank rework, thats more than a wanted...

[wind shore]

They said they prototyping new type of tank , so it’s more then rework

[covert elbow]

The tank rework was pretty on par with what the community’s been asking for but the medic and artillery rework were far from what most people have been asking

[wind shore]

What do you mean exactly

About medic and artillery

[worthy charm]

Maybe on the arty rework it isnt want we wanted. They really didnt say anything specific on the medic rework, so I guess it doesnt really count.😅

[wind shore]

It will make a new interest to tank gameplay in HLL

[worthy charm]

They kept most of it very vague

[wind shore]

I’m waiting for new announce 📣

Now, it’s silent of course

[covert elbow]

Them not introducing mortars and are instead going to look at other solutions just shows how the devs are out of touch

Every single problem arty has can be solved by mortars easily

[wind shore]

Add mortar to defensive mode

[thorny acorn]

when you select tank after the rework, herr and jericho kidnap you and take you to a tank in frontlines somewhere

[covert elbow]

And yea medic didn’t even get a definitive answer that they know what to do. So much for the 3 month wait on that

Wait… was it 3 or 5 months…

[worthy charm]

Like 99% of the problems yes, im sure people still cry because of something. There never is an update where everyone is happy

[wind shore]

Idk, for me most of things is ok

[covert elbow]

Just the things you accept when you make games

It does confuse me when people do defend bad systems like arty though

[wind shore]

Arty meta

[thorny acorn]

its cool

[covert elbow]

Guess those players don’t want to put actual thoughts into their actions in game

[thorny acorn]

thats it, other than that it sucks

[covert elbow]

Man I remember someone suggested having artillery guys spawn on like naval ships away from the map where they couldn’t be shot while they fired arty guns

Weird suggestion that

[covert elbow]

It’s cool to fire guns yea. Same as it’s cool to fire mortar rounds

[thorny acorn]

arty is cooler

bc big gun = big boom

[worthy charm]

The discussions around nodes are so funny sometimes😆. They more or less said they gonna change nodes as well (if I understood it right) as a side effect of them changing tanks and arty.

[covert elbow]

I have the QA up I’ll take a listen

[wind shore]

It was me

For Tobruk, I’ve done it , and never mind about it much

But would be cool idea for Omaha

Cause arty, and most of things not possible to place it on the beach

[covert elbow]

Nope. Nothing but “potentially”s and “we want to”s

[worthy charm]

Ok, i heard things i wanted to hear then😅

[covert elbow]

Yea

Still don’t understand how it took them 4+ months to do the roadmap and what we got boiled down to 50% maybes

[thorny acorn]

hopefully they finish this roadmap

[covert elbow]

Oh they will just like last year

Mainly because there’s nothing on it

[thorny acorn]

well there is ratte, and akimbo

[wind shore]

Lol

[thorny acorn]

well time to go back to warzone since verdansk is back

[covert elbow]

Ratte got removed a while ago

Unless your talking about the small ones

[thorny acorn]

im talking about the joke roadmap we got

[covert elbow]

Oh that

[full bronze]

what problems does arty have

arty is really good

portable arty (mortars) would be annoying/overpowered af

[thorny acorn]

arty gameplay is basically recon team spawn killing

[frail heart]

The meta rule every league for HLL does is 1 man unkillable arty. That solves the issue.
Nodes cannot be destroyed either.
Panther is not allowed.

Recon do backline garrisons and flare constantly for arty marks

[full bronze]

from my experience nobody wants to kill the arty that has been killing us for the past 5 minutes and then they complain when we lose

at least some servers have snipers locked for people under lvl 50 so wannabe Vasily Zaitsevs can't ruin the match

[cyan saddle]

Typically only recon is capable of putting up a fight against arty though, and they aren't typically in positions where they get shelled either.

So you've got infantry demanding recon to do something most don't enjoy doing

[frail heart]

Exactly having recon sit for a whole match shooting arty is a waste of resources and boring for the ones who do it

[worthy charm]

not really... you obviosly would get less range.

[cyan saddle]

Mortars would be easy to get wrong. Personally I'd take about anything over arty though, then again I'm not exactly impartial in the whole discussion either 😂

[oak current]

nobody is impartial

[cyan saddle]

waiting for the pun

or the sneaky edit

[oak current]

nah, I just mixed up the words

[cyan saddle]

that works

[oak current]

[cyan saddle]

"everybody" or "nobody" makes a significant difference

[oak current]

bodies were involved

[full bronze]

im more than happy to kill arty over and over

usually I end up doing it because our recon squads want to be snipers instead of actually helping the team

[covert elbow]

It’s an unfun experience for everyone.

It’s unfun for the artillery crews who get to sit in one position staring at a calculator and shelling the strongpoint until they get shot at by recon forcing them to either leave for a few minutes or hunt down the recon since their so far away from the front they can’t call for back up.

It’s unfun for recon who has to go far behind enemy lines and baby sit the guns until the enemy team gives up or their outpost gets taken out.

It’s unfun for commander because they have to usually beg or TK the arty crews to stop firing because their taking up all the ammo and the crew most likely isn’t on in-game comms

[cyan saddle]

I think it's good to acknowledge that there's people who enjoy it

I didn't mind it as recon at first either

Quickly got tiring though

[covert elbow]

Mortar’s fix this by having a limited range of around 500m’s or so. This way recon doesn’t have to travel to the middle of nowhere behind the lines and even a rifle squad can take them out if need be

Mortars should also need to be resupplied manually via jeeps so it’s not just the crew setting up shop and firing unlimited rounds for 20 minutes

Mortars are just the obvious answer. Most people who give suggestions that keep arty guns are either blatantly broken balance wise, don’t fix the actual issues with artillery, or are just talking about mortar guns anyways

[oak current]

..via jeeps? I keep forgetting they exist

[covert elbow]

Introduce limited range and limited ammo mortar guns along and make artillery a commander call in

Bing bang bop zoop you’ve fixed the game we can all go home happy

[full bronze]

thats just squad

[covert elbow]

Just makes sense imo. They have an ammo resupply anyways so make it work with emplacements in game. Same should go for AT guns

[worthy charm]

Jeeps with mgs when?

[covert elbow]

Unironically yea

[worthy charm]

TELL MEE!!!

[oak current]

Jeeps with MGs would be pointless but great

[covert elbow]

Jeeps and Halftracks are already pointless lmao

[oak current]

well, not pointless...same pointless as they are now

[worthy charm]

it doesnt need a point more me to goof around with them

[covert elbow]

Hell unless the new armor rework is good the new tanks will be useless

[oak current]

I know the Kübelwagen also had a side-mounted MG for the forward passenger on the right

[covert elbow]

Did it?

I’ve never heard of that

[oak current]

wrong image

[covert elbow]

Lmao

[wind shore]

Jeeps is cool thing

They should add different variations for jeeps

Also for the eastern front - vehicles should have grey camo

[pine ember]

It depends on the setting of the map, any map that is set in or later than 1943 should have the current one

[wind shore]

Stalingrad, it’s everything there grey

[pine ember]

I know

[wind shore]

Grey tank or truck will fit better in Stalingrad

[pine ember]

Yes, also we should have more 1942 maps

Kharkov, Case Blue, Demyansk

[wind shore]

1941

[pine ember]

If they manage to balance it, then yes

[novel geyser]

Still want motorbikes with sidecars for recon
They just have to make them spawn naturally

Half tracks should probably also spawn when the round starts I think

But from then on have to be spawned by the commander

Could even potentially make it so players can spawn inside half tracks and transport trucks even when they're moving. But I'm not sure how that would play out in hll
Also remove red zone garrisons

[wind shore]

Stupid mechanics even, in Enlisted it exist

[novel geyser]

no stupider than a magic table than teleports players behind enemy lines

people clown caring out of a half track is more belivable than a table

[wind shore]

This also is bad mechanics, it has spawn camping meta / unrealism

Halftrucks could spawn at HQ simply , and used by squads to get to the point

Or fast spawn point - dogouts/ bunkers

[novel geyser]

HLL isnt realistic anyways and I wont ever be. Being able to spawn inside a half track would have you spawn killed less than a garrison, spawns can still be blocked if enemies are near the half track. It just opens up potential for it to be used as an actual assault vehicle, especially if anti tank is reduced

[wind shore]

Making bots -> which delivering to the point ( or officer move mark ) each 2 mins -> bots in half tracks , you can spawn with team on the HQ , and as Officer request for halftrack immediately -> fast travelling , bot driver delivering halftruck

Half tracks -> make infantry be able to use your handguns in the halftracks.
And those together with dugouts / bunkers

[novel geyser]

?

thats far more effort than T17 could reasonably put in

[wind shore]

Dugouts - simply way to respawn inside

In dugouts - Officer able to place table / outpost , spawn protection , cause it’s dugout

Make 8-9 empty on each maps

Or for example houses in Carentan - which is locked , make some of them specially for spawn

On each maps, some places in environment could be made for spawn points, Omaha, Utah - bunkers, where you can spawn, Kursk, Kharkov maps - dugouts, Mortain map - dugouts, Carentan, Stalingrad - underground floor in houses

El Alamein , Tobruk , make spawns inside the houses, same + halftrack spawn

[novel geyser]

not sure that would work out very well

[wind shore]

in Q/A live, 2 years ago they said about they wanted to change spawn system

[wind shore]

Better than spawn/camping/table

[novel geyser]

Was that BM or T17 two years ago

[wind shore]

T17

Wombat was i remember , if i find it, but it should be on YT page

[novel geyser]

still that was old plans, before they changed their roadmap and got downsized

new/improved spawn system would be good tho

[wind shore]

yes, table is making people spawn camping

it's not fun when you redeploy, in this second you die instantly

trench system + dugouts, in a lot of maps, there are existed trench system. Just simply add dugouts to the each trench system - it would works + spawn kill will be hard, cause you have ways to escape spawn area

halftracks with bots + dugouts as place where you can place your outpost/spawn point + parachute jump replacing an airhead

[novel geyser]

eh

again too much effort for T17

the systems right now can be improved

and as far as parachute drops go I'd only want to see them as a bit of flavour for the start of a match
I imagine a sort of reworked or new offensive mode which goes for more recreation of the real battles, so something like SMDM has the US parachuting across the map to capture specific objectives the germans have to defend with no tanks stuff like that

[wind shore]

of course it's work, but it include also the half part of work , like placing spawn points on the map, dugouts/open certain houses, which could be tested in the fighting in PTE

they can do it with the same system - just add some dugouts

and people will prefer to place spawn point in bunker, or dugout, or in 1st floor of house, more, then on the open field

[wind shore]

be able to shoot from AA

and if you destroyed enemy plane - they have more cool-down for calling new ability , their commander

on SME, SMD - Germans would have Flaks, and hit Americans who jumping from the planes

[edgy wave]

any one wana play tanks?

[novel geyser]

I think they should allow spawns to be placed inside more buildings and the like, but you should still be free to place spawns anywhere.
I think garrisons should only be placeable in friendly territory and involve more steps for building, officers place the blue print and infantry build it with the hammer. Potentially add the ability to "upgrade" garrisons so they act as proper FOBs with shelter similar to the FOBs in squad.

[wind shore]

too much work to upgrade etc

[worthy charm]

Try it in #pc-looking-for-unit

[novel geyser]

though I've stopped caring about warfare as much and would just rather see improvements to offensive

[wind shore]

engineers always should be near officer, not on the defensive point

i love offensive more

[edgy wave]

Aright thanks

[novel geyser]

offensive should just exclude garrisons all together and use default spawns. If T17 can get rid of the grid strong point system then theres a lot more room for unique variation and condensing the match down a lot more. my issue with offensive is mainly pacing, matches go on for far too long they shouldnt last any longer than a warfare game but to do that they need to reduce the distance between capture points, make it more linear and get rid of the logistics and garrison system, OPs should be key for offensive

[wind shore]

( also cause the skyboxes, and more intensinity of combat )

If we had 200 players+ , I love warfare also

But in those reality, always those 100+ players always just walking on the map, a lot of empty unused space

[novel geyser]

I agree theres a lot of unused space, dont think the game could handle any more players though

[wind shore]

Right now yes, but technologies also aren’t statics , staying on 1 place

They improving each year

[thin ivy]

How do I get permission to post in "console-division-recruitment"?

[worthy charm]

Rules and Instructions for that can be found in #division-rules

[heavy veldt]

I'm looking for Australian Oce clans for pc

[worthy charm]

Look into #1343090646168240199 there may be a clan that fits our requirements.

[plucky sundial]

Anyone want to run a tank crew on xbox?

Or Playstation?

New gen

[thorny acorn]

#console-looking-for-unit

[plucky sundial]

My bad

I'm kinda new to this

[worthy charm]

May your pillow be cold tonight.

or warm however you prefer it.

[thorny acorn]

who likes warm pillows 😭

[plucky sundial]

Lol

[wind shore]

i love pillows with ice

and snow on it

correct to say* pillows from snow*

[rugged glacier]

Strait up chaplaining It

[thorn hedge]

HEY sorry to bother you which chat room should I use if I have a question ??

[cosmic pilot]

Not this one

[cyan saddle]

You're free to ask it here, though some channels might be better for specific needs, i.e. #new-recruit-barracks for new player advice or #1271718922734796865 for tech support

[cosmic pilot]

You've asked one too many questions already

Moderate me harder abu

[worthy charm]

We need a real abu emoji

[grim solstice]

mornin folks

It's 3PM

[thorny acorn]

morning its 17 now

[quick root]

what division should i join im level 46?

[midnight nacelle]

Howdy, you should check out: #1343090646168240199 & #1343089641489961001 respectively.
See if you can find someone that suits you.

[quick root]

just joined the server thanks though

[thorny acorn]

whatever you do, dont spam mpreg reactions on certain individuals, they dont like that here

talking from personal experience

[past vortex]

what could go wrong

[wind sigil]

am I the only one who hates the new African maps, both of them? I just want pacific theater added to this game. Not a dusty urban area where I cant see anything. If I want that I'll go play 6 days in Fallujah

[cosmic pilot]

Yes, only you.

[wind sigil]

That's fair. I'll take my opinion with me then XD

[past veldt]

🚨PACIFIC MENTION🚨

[cosmic pilot]

Drink

[past vortex]

a pacific beach map but its in a typhoon so you cant see anything

(at night)

[thin lotus]

hey devs, do something other than just changing what color the fog is

thx

[cosmic pilot]

Chum is anti colored fog

He's a white fog supremacist

[thin lotus]

white is a color, doofus

snow, fog, dust....do something else, devs

[novel geyser]

ah yes trade out dusty urban map where you cant see anything to foliage heavy jungle map where you cant see anything

[past vortex]

how about hail

[thin lotus]

it's also got that standard ugly ue4 rain going on

can't even get the superficial stuff right

[cosmic pilot]

Mods, ban his ahh

Don't care + didn't ask + empty server

[arctic rampart]

• console 🤣

[static kayak]

Anyone wants to play tanks with me rn?

[cyan saddle]

Please use the designated channel: #console-seeding-help

[worthy charm]

#pc-looking-for-unit 😉

[static kayak]

alr thx

[novel geyser]

I love how commander ammo drops are so useless I only see them used as "bait" airheads

[covert elbow]

Pretty much all their good for

[thin lotus]

"Commander, we need ammo drop at this location, we're dry"
-No one, ever in the entirety of HLLs existence

[past veldt]

You think that, but pub players do ask for it regularly

[thin lotus]

pub players think waiting for medics is a good idea too

actually, even they might not be that stupid

[novel geyser]

I think the only times I've asked for ammo is when I've ran out of rockets or use the thompson loadouts for US assault

[past vortex]

a ammo drop on a point that is fought over a long time is useful

[novel geyser]

outside of AT rockets you usually get more than enough ammo for one life

[past vortex]

except when you dont

FG or any MG run out often

and its not only rockets, also satchels and even grenades

and mines !

[novel geyser]

FG maybe but most MGs have waaaay too much ammo as is

[past vortex]

huh?

i run out sometimes

not always but also not rare

[novel geyser]

I feel like MGs should need to be supplied more often than they are

MG42 holding 250 rounds in a 50 round drum and you get like 6 spare drums or something silly like that

[past vortex]

assaulter grenadier loadout + ammo box = hail of grenades :}

[novel geyser]

grenade boxes fair enough but not many roles even get them
and most of the time ppl dont place them

but over all weapon ammo is plentiful enough for how often you die

[past vortex]

ik, but you can totally shoot it all if you dont get sniped

[covert elbow]

M1919A6 with a magic 250 belt and 10 reserve ammo

[novel geyser]

If you're firing at nothing most of the time sure

[covert elbow]

Also the U.S. rifleman magically carrying 18 en-bloc clips in a 10 bloc belt

[novel geyser]

It took me like 30 minutes to run out of sniper ammo at one point, sitting behind the lines and just sniping ppl

[past vortex]

can also be much faster

[novel geyser]

I was firing quite a lot and didnt die once

ammo distribution and just overall loadouts need an overhaul

[covert elbow]

I mean tbh that makes sense. You’re a sniper and need a ton of ammo

I just wish they tied ammo to your characters actual carry capacity’s as shown on their person

I.e. make them use the correct equipment

[novel geyser]

also can someone tell me why the SVT sniper loadout is level 6 and you only get the rifle your melee and bandages while the german FG42 sniper is level 3 and gets mines and smokes

[novel geyser]

Would be a cool detail

[past vortex]

its lvl 9 !

[covert elbow]

“Balance”

[novel geyser]

nope

[covert elbow]

I think it’s because the SVT 1 shots to 200m while the FG one shots to 100m

[novel geyser]

dumb

should've been a g43 sniper anyways

also pretty sure the british riflemen still have the wrong webbing if we want to get nit picky

I remember someone saying when they first got added they have ww1 ammo belts or something

[covert elbow]

Still do haha

[novel geyser]

from what I can tell they should have those big universal ammo pouches

automatic rifleman also has a sten mag bandolier on even though he gets a drum mag thompson or a bren lol

[covert elbow]

Perfect

[novel geyser]

idk why I just love the look of those pouches lol

webbing should definitely be tied to loadout and not role tho

[covert elbow]

Yep yep

[past vortex]

at role with satchel but 2 rockets.... :/

[covert elbow]

God no

Oh my god so much no

[novel geyser]

AT role that instantly blows up tanks when you ping them

[covert elbow]

Now that’s a good idea

[nova pivot]

they should add four fully automatic drum mag AT boys rifles welded together to the medic class

[stoic garnet]

All medic needs is a radio to call in air WaW Little Resistance style. He would be playable

[covert elbow]

Man another person asking for the Springfield on Reddit

[empty steppe]

Yk what

Good for them

Let the man cook

[covert elbow]

Cheese

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-gif-5829839949360013604

[empty steppe]

Oh no, here comes a history lesson I’ve already heard

[covert elbow]

Unless they add a rifle grenadier or like… an MP class there’s no reason why it needs to be in the game

[covert elbow]

Then you should know why lmao

[empty steppe]

but doesn’t shooting down the same idea get tiring man? 🤣

[covert elbow]

The moment I don’t shoot it down is the moment it gets added haha

Also I wouldn’t have to shut it down if the devs just added a damn FAQ

[empty steppe]

I REALLY feel that’s not how it works but… you go for it man 😭

[covert elbow]

Nah. You don’t know this but I’m actually the HLL director

[empty steppe]

Oh sry my bad

Ben works for you, totally forgot that 🤯

[covert elbow]

It’s alright. I don’t mention it to often

[cyan saddle]

You're just like Max after all

Doesn't play his own game because he sees all the flaws

[covert elbow]

Exaaaactly

I’m actually his prodigy

[cosmic pilot]

I think everyone should have a protege in at least one point in their life

[thin lotus]

"i don't play the game because i can see everything wrong with it" will forever be the greatest summary answer of any developer of any game.
Even more hilarious that it's about HLL and from its previous CEO. The way they were able to selloff this IP was nothing short of magic

[past vortex]

wdym magic
this is measured in player numbers and social media views

[finite berry]

Lmao, he blatantly said that?

[vestal spear]

is that the same dude as before or a new one ?

[tender shore]

I paid money for this game

😕

I should of just bought hotdogs and ate them with my dog while watching the sunset

[midnight nacelle]

Sunsets for the dogs out does everything 💜

[vestal spear]

ill buy ur hotdogs if you let me watch sunsets with ur dog

[tender shore]

I did just sit outside in the sunset with my dog

And we ate some roast chicken together

[tender shore]

If you allow me to DM you I can send you a picture of my dog, or I have some videos of him on my YouTube channel

[lost chasm]

Anyone here ever play l9 server

[vestal spear]

no i need to pet that dawg .

[tender shore]

Ion how to do that

[static monolith]

I convinced my whole team to start killing each other as commander for losing today

We held out for like 40 minutes and it all fell apart at the last 5 minutes so I told all my squad leads to just blast the nearest man in the face and they actually listened

[main cedar]

Imperial Japan type of warfare

[static monolith]

We were playing as the Germans too

I order 66d my entire team for a quick laugh

[novel geyser]

And they hadnt even made it to berlin yet

[keen glen]

https://tenor.com/view/stfu-lil-bro-gif-881252686023637754

[static monolith]

I'm genuinely surprised how fast everyone followed through with it

Like half the team dead within 10 seconds

[keen glen]

we need bayonet bruh

@developer

[tepid umbra]

Imagine getting 5 flamers in one place and maybe even a tank for some cover

[covert elbow]

On it

[real parrot]

Okey Palpatine

[cerulean shadow]

looking for a active NL/BE Division

[oak current]

ah you might have luck over at #1343090646168240199

Dutch Let Loose are rather active from what i remember

[wind shore]

How many servers online was at the start of server browser, who remember

on console

[ocean rover]

Bipod is trash. It's ridiculous how stupid it is.

[novel geyser]

combo of bad bipod mechanic and terrible proning makes MG so much worse than he needs to be

[worthy charm]

Can you do mortars after that?

Pretty please🥹

[pseudo heath]

Looking for streamers based in Europe who would like to stream SLB games on Tuesdays

Or crazy people awake at 19:30 UTC+1

Experience not required, support is provided

Good game knowledge is a must

[gentle lintel]

let's talk about my compensation for the role

[worthy charm]

The same as your Moderator salary

[thin lotus]

🫵😬

[empty steppe]

Mods get payed??

I thought yall were just slaves

[worthy charm]

Thats the joke🥲

Now its not funny anymore...

[empty steppe]

Haha I unfunny something 😜

[visual niche]

I prefer serf 😒

[empty steppe]

Sry maxim, but your a knight 🫶

Ben’s the king

Idk who the lord is

[chrome furnace]

Abu 🍆

[past veldt]

Abu the Clown

Lord Drew has a ring to it

[cosmic pilot]

Paid

[past vortex]

with a lukewarm limp handshake, but virtual

[empty steppe]

Sry I try my bestest 🥲

[past vortex]

*most bestest

[empty steppe]

Get out 😭 🗣️

[tough ridge]

Yo man

Ik kom nu net terug van een lange pauze HLL ik ga weer met wat nederlanders onze oude groep oppakken enige interesse?

[fleet stream]

Hey guys, I’ve recently redownloaded the game after not playing it for a while and now whenever I try to join a game it just goes to “lost connection to host” anyone have any idea on how to fix that?

[tough ridge]

DTF is coming back

[slate canopy]

See if any of this helps: https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1300297593032671292

If not, post in #1271718922734796865

[oak current]

oh, the Dutch Task Force?

[fleet stream]

Thank you

[tough ridge]

Yessir

[oak current]

oh my!

[tough ridge]

been a while tho

which stuff changed in the discord btw? i left when Danny left

[oak current]

I mean its a discord, not much changed overall. some areas are just slightly different, but overall..stuffs the same

[tough ridge]

Alright than

[cyan saddle]

You imp, take that back

😠 🫵

[vivid temple]

Kan ik ook zo meedoen toevallig?

[wind shore]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1363987814085296269

[vivid temple]

what

[wind shore]

This is the city, where he born

[oak coral]

i need help tbh. i have had this issue on hell let loose where i load into any server it never makes it past the 3 loading dots. I have uninstalled completely, reinstalled validated files and ran error checks and nothing showed up. I am level 158 and have 5 classes level X or max level, i really just want the game to work so i can play it. any help that gets my game running would be the best, thank you guys 🙂

[oak coral]

i've spent a good chunk looking up anything and ive tried 14 methods.

[worthy charm]

Try it in #1271718922734796865

[tough ridge]

Ja dat mag natuurlijk, stuur me maar een DM

[oak coral]

ty homie

[slate canopy]

The 3 dots is a visual bug if you are in queue, you should still be in queue.

[oak coral]

in que, 40 ppl total, still waiting. now at 96.

[slate canopy]

Sooo my guess is it loaded everyone in it's 96 and you are in queue?

[past vortex]

unless there are 50 vips that doesnt sound right

[past vortex]

we cant be 100% sure its only visual for everyone btw....

[covert elbow]

Just for you little boy… no

[worthy charm]

WHYYYYYYYYYYY😭

Sad german mumbeling

[covert elbow]

Because you specifically asked

You also reset the pacific timer and have to wait 4 more years

[mellow knoll]

Lmaooo

God it's so overrated

[worthy charm]

I didnt even ask for that

but ok I dont want it anyway so make it 5 years for good measure.

[covert elbow]

Well in that case… pacific for 2026

[worthy charm]

you little mean goblin😒

I shall call a knight to slay thee

[wind shore]

We should get more offensive mode servers

[tall kettle]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Some players may experience the following issues during Steam's routine maintenance:

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[oak current]

the time has come again...

[river rover]

ℹ️ AMD CPU folks there is a new Chipset driver 7.04.09.545ℹ️
https://www.amd.com/en/support/downloads/drivers.html/chipsets/am4/x570.html

[slate canopy]

ANOTHER? (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[past vortex]

chipset this time

[slate canopy]

I just updated everything because I had to reset windows lol

[past vortex]

also:
`Release Highlights

Bug fixes. 

`
best release notes ever

:D

actually as if straight from a meme

[visual niche]

https://tenor.com/view/speech-bubble-speech-town-crier-town-herald-gif-5909200928313419089

[elder jay]

@slate canopy Did you message me the other day asking to play? Everytime I load the game I see it but idk where to find it on discord. 🤣

If not, disregard!

[slate canopy]

🤔 I have not. Odd.

[elder jay]

Hahahaha I wonder what it is?! 🤣

[slate canopy]

could be the notification that I accepted your friend request on here? 🤷‍♀️

[elder jay]

Oh maybe! Idk, I just didn't want you to think I was ignoring you if you did.

[slate canopy]

You're all good 👍 You usually get on later that I can be on, so I can only play on the weekends with you sadly 😅

[elder jay]

Oh gotcha! Yeah I get on late, Degen hours. 🤣

[slate canopy]

I work too early to be up that late 😢 (To get at least ya know... 5-6 hours of sleep)

[elder jay]

It's ok! I just get off later in the evening but weekends are an exception. 😊

5-6 hours?! You need 8! 😭

Lol but I get it.

[slate canopy]

Technically, I believe women are supposed to get more 🤔 but oh well 🤷‍♀️

I shoot for 6 hours minimum. Doesn't always work out.

[elder jay]

Oh really? I believe it!

6 is good though! Better than like 2-3 that I used to get when I was younger. 🤣

[midnight nacelle]

What is sleep? 🤔

[wind shore]

i sleep sometimes 2-3 hours

sometimes 4-5 hours

and sometimes 8 hours, it depends

4-6 is enough, good for me

when i get less sleep, i'm stupid

don't mind as well as i need, brain doesn't work

cause sleepy

[visual niche]

You're smart 👍

[fleet stream]

Not sure who helped me with the “Lost connection to Host” issue before but the drive switch worked so thank you so much to whoever told me

[wind shore]

You are the knight , Max!

Now, i've found this thing, that on console, most of the maps, for example, Hill 400 skirmish, never played by players

opened on PC- opened that Hill 400 is exist in skirmish variation , and has purple dusk or something

i've played Hill 400 night, i'm from this players who ever played it, i'm lucky

[wind shore]

skirmish, i mean't , it's barely played, not most of maps*

Skirmish, if play it, just mostly SME day

or i have played Carentan day, also on skirmish

[real parrot]

How can you be lucky for playing hill400 night? I think you meant extremely unlucky

[tall kettle]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE NOW ENDING** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Steam maintenance has now ended but some issues may still remain until a game restart

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[wind shore]

i've played it only once, i remember only moon , night bushes

[gentle lintel]

We missed this one @visual niche

[verbal island]

[waxen charm]

anyone else having an issue where its saying no compatible servers found?

[past vortex]

are you using the pte

[waxen charm]

its back up

[wind shore]

Hey guys, who has Dualshock elite on console PS5

[atomic pendant]

That's not true. I've been asking for an Easter egg in the game for like a year now.

https://tenor.com/view/trollface-gif-8242347154758580084

[tough ridge]

If only you were @indigo loom

[atomic pendant]

Mosca is the man

[empty steppe]

Then I guess you better make a popular YouTube channel and huge successful clan, and hey maybe then, but even then… probably not 😂

[covert elbow]

Been thinking about it for a long time. Just need to find the motivation for it

And a good free editing software

[empty steppe]

Go for it ninja, I’ll be your first sub 🫶

[covert elbow]

Thanks cheese cake

I’ll give you a shout out whenever I talk about the Johnson

[empty steppe]

I luv my lmg man

I just want the devils brigade 🥲

[worthy charm]

Do it so I can give you money for a PC, without needing your Email.

[covert elbow]

I mean my PayPal’s open Willie’s

[worthy charm]

DM me you Email and you shall get 50€ for a PC.

Or food (if youre weird)

[covert elbow]

Ngl

You have tempted me

[worthy charm]

Damm, this time I got close though

xD

[wind shore]

I have my PayPal , I call it just Paul

[empty steppe]

Ugh I yall reminding me I need to upgrade mine 😅😂

[cunning sky]

hello all

i hope hll puts in the pacific theatre

[finite berry]

Let's hope they don't

[covert elbow]

They aren’t and good riddance

[thin lotus]

Teleports behind you

[covert elbow]

@worthy charm Well said

[cunning sky]

why

[worthy charm]

Ty , but I should stop going into the suggestions, its a habbit i cant get rid of....

[cunning sky]

my bad

[covert elbow]

Same. It’s just something to pass the time at this point

[covert elbow]

Japan would get steam rolled every game unless they add in a ton of stuff that wasn’t used IRL

[nova pivot]

Pacific mentioned 🏖️ 🗣️

[covert elbow]

And with how terrible HLL’s gunplay even then it would be one sided

[cunning sky]

lol

[finite berry]

Plus the overall development speed of T17... 🫠

[covert elbow]

Also that

[silk igloo]

just decrease their respawn times and fix the bolting

[cunning sky]

alright fair enough. fair point

[nova pivot]

That would take 3 years for getting the buggy version

[covert elbow]

People keep asking for entire new factions but the entire game needs updating and overhauls. You really want to add on multiple new factions?

[nova pivot]

And the good one would come another 3 years later

[thin lotus]

Sorry can’t. That isn’t copy-paste enough.

[covert elbow]

-5 seconds spawns and 0.6 bolting sounds good to me

Just gonna ignore the tanks, LMG’s, rocket launchers, semi-autos’s, SMGs, HMG, and MMG, the Americans have

[thin lotus]

Just add their equivalents and call it a day

The game isn’t a historical documentary of how battles were

[finite berry]

Plus, I feel like the main point behind the demand for "the Pacific" is nostalgia from Rising Storm and Red Orchestra with no one even wasting one second of thought if it would fit into HLL

[covert elbow]

Also the pacific TV show

[silk igloo]

they could make that clip fed LMG work well if any rifleman could just tap more into it

[covert elbow]

No one seems to understand that japan had comparatively terrible small arms against the US

[thin lotus]

Who cares, hll isn’t historical gameplay

[covert elbow]

The commonwealth could work relatively well

[covert elbow]

Oh yes that solves all the issues lmao

[silk igloo]

true to japanese fashion, the power of friendship makes their guns stronger

[finite berry]

Can't wait for uwu emotes and skins

[covert elbow]

Mfw instead of anime kawaii uwu culture japan in WW2 is actually a ruthless culture of glorified sacrifice who will blow themselves up just to kill you and your friends

[worthy charm]

Its a sin we both gonna take into the grave😆

[covert elbow]

Japans “glow up” should be studied

[covert elbow]

Get me in a room with the devs willes, you (maybe) have the power now

[worthy charm]

I dont got that power😅

[covert elbow]

I’m going to choose to ignore that

[finite berry]

You mean when two additional suns rose? 🌞

[finite berry]

Yep. For real, reading about some Japanese atrocities against POWs etc because they "lost their honour" because they surrendered was genuinely sickening

Like, Jesus Christ

[cosmic pilot]

I'd rather chum than you tbh

You're uniform takes are informative

But your gameplay takes are questionable

[finite berry]

I like both :D

[covert elbow]

No I mean going from bushido culture to kawaii uwu and cherry blossoms

Like Japan still on the regular has some messed up culture but they hide it well

[covert elbow]

Nah all my opinions are the correct ones because I said it

At least I’m not asking to keep artillery

[cosmic pilot]

That's my line 😛

[finite berry]

man, image perms when, I wanna share my funny Japan doge memes here :(

[covert elbow]

They trust us with gifs so hopefully soon

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-yippee-creature-yippee-meme-yippee-gif-gif-1489386840712152603

[covert elbow]

At least until the next “wtf” update or trailer when we loose it along with reaction perms again

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/ağlayan-adam-gif-22992356

[worthy charm]

The good ol memorys

[covert elbow]

Man speaking of

Last of us part 2

Why tf did they follow the same story 😦

[finite berry]

Well, on one hand, at least there's consistency

[covert elbow]

Like. It’s one of the most controversial game of all time and instead of looking at making it better it’s just… the same thing that people didn’t like

[finite berry]

On the other hands, it's consistently sh it lol

[covert elbow]

First season was great because LOU1 was fantastic

But LOU2 was just bad lmao

[finite berry]

I refused to play TLOU2 altogether

Game just doesn't exist for me

I just wish I could wipe my memories so I could enjoy TLOU1 "for the first time" again

Man, I cried when I finished that game and the credit OST hit

Such an amazing game

And then ⛳

[covert elbow]

Oh oh speaking of

In episode 2 they actually brought Ellie’s VA to sing a song for the ending sequence

I really enjoyed that cameo

[worthy charm]

Bro, the game aint bielefeld.

[finite berry]

Speaking of OSTs, listening to the Anno 1503 OST and nostalgia just hit me like a train

[finite berry]

TLOU2 exists even less than Bielefeld

[covert elbow]

The hell is Bielefeld

[finite berry]

It's a large German city

There is a joking conspiracy theory about Bielefeld that says that Bielefeld doesn't exist

[covert elbow]

Oh that makes sense

Like how in the US we all acknowledge most of the Midwest states don’t exist and is just a government conspiracy

[finite berry]

It went so far that the city of Bielefeld promised one million euros or so if someone could prove that Bielefeld actually does not exist (no one could :D)

[finite berry]

Yep, like that 😄

[covert elbow]

Lmao

[finite berry]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bielefeld_conspiracy

Anyway, back to mocking TLOU2

It's quite sad because the gameplay looked very good

[covert elbow]

Don’t go into the TLOU2 subreddit lmao

[finite berry]

Imagine going to Reddit in the first place

[covert elbow]

It came on my feed and by god that was a cesspit

[covert elbow]

There’s a few community’s I like but it’s gotten bad for the more popular ones

[covert elbow]

It’s very solid gameplay

But that’s because the originals gameplay was already very solid and could only use some improvements

It also had some amazing set pieces

[finite berry]

Yes, but I genuinely can't enjoy a game's gameplay if I actively dislike the story

[covert elbow]

Shame the story was to long, over complicated, and had terrible endings lmao

[covert elbow]

It’s just bad

It sucks to because Abby’s story is actually pretty good

Sucks it took THE SECOND HALF to show it, after I’ve been with Ellie for 12 hours trying to kill Abby

[finite berry]

I feel like the new characters they came up with weren't so bad to begin with; they just decided to throw all potential out of the window and make the worst out of every single character

feels like Jurassic World all over again

[finite berry]

I love how some guy made a "20 canonical endings to TLOU2" video on YouTube where he just manages to get himself killed as Abby in the fight against Ellie xDDD

[covert elbow]

No they were all good. Just treated horribly. I guarantee most of the people who say that characters are bad haven’t played the game

[covert elbow]

Lmao

[covert elbow]

The game and show should have started off with Abby’s journey, then swapped to Ellie after you kill Joel. It just works so much better storytelling wise and pace wise

[finite berry]

Can't say much about that since I didn't play it

[covert elbow]

Exactly haha

[finite berry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXefXV_fwHU

dude

[covert elbow]

Yes Ellie goes way to far in every way

[finite berry]

This is a scene I actually watched, and man, it makes so little sense on so many levels

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like all characters in this scene behave and act like no sane human would, they only act as they do so the rest of the plot can happen

[covert elbow]

Welcome to the last of us 2

A lot of the story boils down to “what the script says” in both dialogue and character action

[finite berry]

Someone in the comment section pointed it out perfectly :(

Logical person:
Ellie: You can survive this... I just want her.
Owen: Ok... please, shes pregnant... don't shoot. Moves Mel behind him, and points to the location on the map first
Mel: What are you doing!
Owen: Saving our child... Its the only choice we have. Abby would understand...
Mel: Hesitates, but also points after placing her hand on her belly and looking down
Ellie: Sees the spots are the same, releasing a relieving breath, but then shifts back to being focused on the two Now go... I don't want to ever see you again... Do you understand?
Mel and Owen agree and they all part ways

Stupid people:
Everything in this video

[covert elbow]

Yep

[finite berry]

Also for some reason I had to laugh out loud when Mel died because realising she was pregnant, I had to think of "38 + 2 weeks pregananant" lmao

(gotta rewatch that masterpiece real quick)

[covert elbow]

One of the top comments is about how Ellie’s suprised because she scored a triple kill instead of a double kill lmao

[finite berry]

yep, hahaha

It's dark, but I had to laugh

[covert elbow]

The biggest issue with TLOU2 is that they’re trying to retread the journey of Joel and how he was in all honesty a villain all along. But instead of it being subtle and hard hitting at the end Ellie is just pure evil in the game

[finite berry]

Yep, it feels too forced

[covert elbow]

She gets almost all of her friends killed or horrifically maimed, kills so many innocent people, and looses her wife and child in the end after going on a revenge trip that didn’t need to happen

And it didn’t even matter in the end since she ultimately lets Abby go!

[finite berry]

And because characters behave and act so stupidly, players fail to identify with them the same they did with Joel and Ellie in TLOU1, no matter what "evil" acts they committed

[covert elbow]

Yep

It’s just bad story telling

[finite berry]

Yep, that's also what left me perplexed. Like, you lost everything only to to not finish what you initially started that is the cause of why you lost everything

It makes NO SENSE

No sane human would act like that, everything is just "stop thinking, just follow the plot"

[covert elbow]

And the fact we’re doing the same exact thing just makes me sad

They had over 5 years to remake the story to be better yet here we are

Cause you can’t just make the characters more believable or human anyways because most of the actual plot of the game is just bad

[willow dune]

Hey guys im new to the game and what is the best and Most fun class?

[finite berry]

Amen

[finite berry]

Depends on what you want, I guess. Best in terms of overall performance or what's best for you?

Many classes can be fun

[hexed radish]

Can some classes run faster?

[visual niche]

All the same speed

[hexed radish]

Weird, cause some players obviously just run faster slightly

[visual niche]

Maybe the gun animation is slower on some

[worthy charm]

Fun depends on what you like, Im loving playing flamethower or blowing up tanks

[nova pivot]

Everything is psychological, everything is in your mind

They're all supposed to run the same.

[hexed radish]

There are no cheaters in Ba Sing Se

[covert elbow]

Would be cool depending on your characters equipment weight

[finite berry]

Running speed based on actual player weight

(Watch Redditors somehow lagging behind the entire team)

[novel geyser]

pretty sure they specifically avoided making movement speeds different so squads could stick together better

[covert elbow]

Fat load of help that did lmao

[novel geyser]

well it makes sense if the squad actually does stick together

[covert elbow]

If anything slower movement speed would help since you’d have to make sure your squad stays together for the heavier guy

[novel geyser]

movement speed depending on equipment would be nice if you could actually drop things

[thin lotus]

A meaningless distinction either way due to how prevalent and effective teleporting is

[novel geyser]

well it would make a bit of a difference in terms of combat theoretically

[thin lotus]

Straight garbage how necessary it is

[novel geyser]

considering when movement speed was increased people couldnt hit anything

[covert elbow]

True

[thin lotus]

Oh jee, controllers can’t hit a slaloming target when there’s not multiple stacks of aim assist helping them.
Who’s surprised?

Can’t be content that it’s easy enough that targets go down in 1-2 hits. You have to make them slow as sludge too or else they’ll cry about it. Hll players’ skill issue 😬

[novel geyser]

this was on PC

people werent used to the speed so they kept missing and then complaining

[cyan saddle]

As someone who never really heard about TLOU until 2 came out, I really struggled to see (and still do) how TLOU2 is even remotely as bad as people claim it is tbh. I get the part where people would have preferred another game in which they could play as Joel. I get how people prefer (the story of) TLOU1. But I don't get how TLOU2 is such a mess as people claim.

Like, isn't what you're describing here the whole point of the story?

• Loved person dies, you want revenge and are willing to sacrifice everything to do so
• Eventually you get to see the story from the other perspective and learn that they are human just like you
• The story builds up to a climax in which you finally realize that you have been blinded by rage and learn to let go

[finite berry]

From a player perspective, yes, but not from a character perspective

[thin lotus]

Yes pc hll players are terrible too. But since this game has to maintain this awful parity between two vastly different aiming systems, it’s much easier to be convinced of player frustrations when you have footage of controllers doing their usual bad aiming

[unkempt canopy]

We still don't have fire rate selectors? Phahahahahaha

[cyan saddle]

So what you're saying is basically that the whole "seeking revenge" arc makes little sense and therefore the story is terrible? Or am I misunderstanding

[finite berry]

It is one of many aspects of the story being bad

[covert elbow]

Because TLOU does it in such a… well play and simple bad way that it hurts the storytelling

[finite berry]

And characters just acting like complete muppets just so the rest of the plot can happen

[covert elbow]

The whole revenge is bad thing is fine but they go so into it

There’s no quiet moment of reflection from Ellie. No hesitation on what she’s doing. It’s just kill everyone and everything

[novel geyser]

revenge bad is a pretty boring plot I feel

even games like Red Dead which has themes of revenge and the cycle of violence in its plot still has waaay more substance that you can pull from it

[covert elbow]

There isn’t even any… what’s it called something dissonance(?) where you can say “oh Ellie wasn’t killing those people that’s just the game.” No she actively hunts and kills a ton of people

[thin lotus]

Ludonarrative ☝️🤓

[cosmic pilot]

see this is what i mean, you're wrong

[novel geyser]

though I've never played TLOU 1 or 2, from what I hear "revenge bad" and "Cycle of violence" is the only point of the plot

[cosmic pilot]

having everyone move at the same speed is good for making people stick together

not because of any player insentive

[thin lotus]

Teleports behind you as a group

[covert elbow]

Thank you

[cosmic pilot]

it just means that if you spawn wave off the same garrison the only thing slowing you down is the path that you take

[covert elbow]

That’s all of it

Abby has an interesting story though. Shame it’s ruined because she blugenged Joel’s brains out and since we didn’t know Abby at all except the fact that Joel killed her dad I don’t want to have anything to do with her

[thin lotus]

Does everything have to be spoon fed to the player?
I’ve not played these games nor watched the show.

Seems like there’s enough backstory established to give characters their motives

[covert elbow]

That’s how TLOU2 tells its story. It’s all spoon fed

[thin lotus]

So what’s the issue

[covert elbow]

Because it’s horribly done

[thin lotus]

“We dont know Abby at all”

[covert elbow]

There’s no questioning of morales. Of characters. Ellie does horrible things and in all is the villain in the end while Abby is the… idk what but she’s not a hero

I’m not in the mind to put it to paper but TLOU2 is just bad story telling plain and simple

Things happen because they happen and there’s barely any character growth

And the one character that gets it, Abby, is ruined for the shock value of the beginning where she kills Joel. No one wanted to hear her story after that

[thin lotus]

So is the complaint that it wasn’t presented chronologically?

[covert elbow]

And Ellie is just the worst human being ever in the game. She almost did a 180 from the first game. And her being an edgy teen with her foster-dad killed doesn’t justify it

[covert elbow]

Pretty much the biggest complaint

[thin lotus]

I mean, neither was The OG Star Wars

[covert elbow]

They knew we wanted to play as Ellie and Joel so they had her section first, but Abby’s starting be first just makes much more sense in every way

[real parrot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/813465453942145067/1364712269107298334/speechmemified_tankfly.gif

[covert elbow]

What

[cosmic pilot]

i'm stealing this, you have my blessing to make more of these

[stoic garnet]

Do not fear 1000 men with bad takes, fear the single man with 1000 bad takes. Fear ninjaoxz

[gentle lintel]

Can we get this in a poetic image @visual niche?

[tough ridge]

did datcookie ever return?

and @gentle lintel tell me about when danny mentioned you

[gentle lintel]

It started just like any regular Saturday… little did I know how much my life would change

[gentle lintel]

Can’t say I’ve seen him around for a long while

[hardy haven]

Anyone know any good ps5 milisims

[slate canopy]

You can find console clans in #1343089641489961001

[tender shore]

@covert elbow I hate everyone in the last of us except Joel he is a cool cat

[covert elbow]

Wtong

[gleaming pelican]

Guys, is there a way to increase my CPU usage to maybe increase or have more stable FPS ?

[wind shore]

are you on the -dx12 option?

i mean besides overclocking its really the only thing that will increase FPS besides hard cash

[gleaming pelican]

IDK. It's the option that you change in the Steam Library ?

[wind shore]

starting option in steam yes

def do that. game might be a bit stuttery at first but itll settle over time

[past vortex]

i hope you mean Gpu :}

[gray garden]

HLL is a mostly CPU limited game AFAIK

[past vortex]

well ik, but no one ever wanted to increase cpu usage :D

i mean ofc we would want to use more cores but that aint gonna happen

[tulip pebble]

Mfw a jumbo is sitting around the corner I just took at 60 kph and have no chance of stopping:

(Yes, this just happened. And no. I no longer have my puma)

[oak current]

[worthy charm]

[silk igloo]

everytime i see that damn bird the song Rasputin and the clapping in it comes to mind

the tempo is pretty close

[cosmic pilot]

Rah, rah, rah-spoo-ton

[silk igloo]

ah. i had forgotten that it was a bongocat video, but my subconscious hadnt

[wintry thistle]

[worthy charm]

Another one, because im bored

[silk igloo]

stop controlling my mind with memes, i dont want to hear it

[gentle lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/love-on-the-spectrum-james-gif-25992093

[sturdy quarry]

havent kept up with the chat, is there any indication as to when next hotfix might drop? i read the telegram to mean not all fixes in hotfix 1, so expect another hotfix rather than wait for next "full" release / patch

[rocky bison]

Is there any way I can obtain the winter warfare dlc for the headscarf or do I have to wait?

[novel geyser]

You have to wait unfortunately

[rocky bison]

That sucks man, so there’s no other way to obtain it?

[novel geyser]

It's a free dlc tho so be sure to grab it whe. It comes around

[novel geyser]

None I'm aware of
They should be releasing the summer warfare dlc when it gets to summer if they remember another free one
Although the uniform in that is role level 7
Really no point in locking them behind limited time free dlc anymore

No point in doing it to begin with

[rocky bison]

Yeah I have that uniform for the majority of my main classes but I’m just interested in the head scarf, I feel it should just be obtainable all year round

[normal junco]

Does HLL support crossplay now?

[rocky bison]

For consoles i believe!

[wind shore]

You are on Epic games, can play with Steam players and Microsoft players together

[normal junco]

Nah I was wondering is console and pc could play together but im guessing they cant

They gotta add crossplay soon man 😩

[past vortex]

no

[thin lotus]

They should. Maybe console players would then learn why that’s such a terrible idea

[novel geyser]

console to pc crossplay is probably never going to happen

and for very good reason

[arctic rampart]

Set up the Index in my new renovated room, can't wait to go back to City 17

https://tenor.com/bhsXD.gif

[tender shore]

Praise the lord

[molten sail]

why?

[novel geyser]

you know why

I aint falling for your vile tricks

[tender shore]

On Skibidi don't be lured in less the big eye 👁️ eye in the sky find you

[thin lotus]

Controllers can aim just as well, if not better, than mouse

[tender shore]

Yeah and I'm a Famous rapper

[thin lotus]

The reason why there’s no platform crossplay is because the devs know that controller players would wipe the floor with pc players

[thin comet]

i hope thats sarcasm, i know in general the HLL playerbase is pretty poor, but i doubt it would be much better on console

[thin lotus]

Controller aimers are killers. Mouse has no chance

[zinc arrow]

Always

[thin comet]

defo disagree with you there

most games with controller support come with aim assist for a reason... not saying there ain't some good gamers who use a controller, analog was a bit late to the party for me, but even then they lasted about 5 mins before dust and grit just made it all screwy, and hardly ever went back to central afterwards.

Newer ones defo have improved, but yeah accuracy wise, mouse will still beat it, the rest is down to the player

[cosmic pilot]

Chum schizo-posting 😬

[molten sail]

everytime i see a controller symbol in game i thank god that the game is not crossplay.... console players would wipe the floor....

[thin comet]

i mean if you're comparing fortnite players to the general HLL playerbase, then yea

HLL has some of the worst players i've seen in a shooter, and i've seen some bad ones over the years

It has some good players, but it' a much smaller % compared to the likes of other shooters

[tender shore]

That's cause most hell let loose players are 60 year old Aussie blokes named chazdog

Something I learned is that kids will always just be better at shooting games even if you practice a ton a kid can just randomly be good at the game cause they younglings

[thin comet]

it's free time + reactions are quicker for younger folks than older

[tender shore]

The only advantage adults have is that most Children are so brain rotted from tiktok that they don't have time to think

[thin comet]

other than the 3000 hour no lifers that don't appear to work for a living

[tender shore]

Now I dunno about anyone else here but I remember riding a kayak in rust with some lil kid and he was singing some tiktok brain rot song on the way to Cargo

[tender shore]

Hey leave me outta this

I live in a desert irl I have no obligations

[wintry thistle]

🔥

[cosmic pilot]

Damn, no time to even plant react that one

Therefore Paul must satiate my desire

[lucid harbor]

Sup

[wintry thistle]

🐔 🏇

[covert elbow]

#1364258584820580373 message

sucks that we aren’t getting mortars anyways lmao

[worthy charm]

One day maybe🥲

[covert elbow]

I’ll have to rewatch the QA but from what I remember we either aren’t getting mortars as confirmed or it was very much implied

[worthy charm]

They specifically said their arty rework arent mortars.

-# if I remember right...

[covert elbow]

Yea that’s what I remember

Which is just bafflingly stupid lmao

It’s the same issue with adding new tanks. Unless you can make an armor system that works there’s no point in adding new vehicles

[worthy charm]

I consider them taking it out a rework as well.

[past veldt]

I am buzzing to see the arty rework

[worthy charm]

Even though I dont believe they are gonna do that... We will see I guess, it should drop this year.

[past veldt]

it will be a perfect example of how not to rework a mechanic

[cosmic pilot]

The arty rework was confirmed to not be mortars
However, this doesn't discount mortars from coming eventually

[covert elbow]

Lmao

Common HLL W

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-bart-vibe-groove-dance-gif-21049112

[covert elbow]

I mean unless it’s removing arty guns from the field or basically is

Having both mortars and artillery is a terrible idea

[past veldt]

I'm just glad university lecturers will have a new example of what not to do when creating a video game

[covert elbow]

BM even knew that. That’s most likely the reason why we never got the SPG’s

[past veldt]

The reason is they got given an offer in like 2021 from T17 to buy the game and so they checked out from development

[covert elbow]

Really?

Wasn’t full release in 2021?

[worthy charm]

I would prefer you use their real companie name

[past veldt]

Good Fun Games

Oh not that one

[worthy charm]

GOOD FUN CORPORATION