mess-hall

[wind shore]

Not enough

[pine ember]

It is

[wind shore]

Imagine 100 running soldiers like in film

[pine ember]

Yes, it would kill the vibe of the game and make attacking impossible

[wind shore]

Why impossible, if it’s it would be balanced by the same count of people from the other side

[pine ember]

It would just be too much

[wind shore]

Current map size is good for 200 players

[oak current]

dont think you'll see 200 players any time soon, even if the map got tripled in size

[silk igloo]

It's just a matter of density. Cut the width in half and it will feel like a lot more players

[wind shore]

The current size with 200 players could be perfect, it will create the same condition when half of the map is empty

[oak current]

you wont see it due to technical issues that arise when you double player amounts to 200

the higher you go, the more oopsie it gets

[covert elbow]

Pretty much it. The games playerbase is to small simply because there’s to much area to work with. If the map was like… 75% of what it is now 100 could work

[covert elbow]

Yep

[wind shore]

We can’t cut the areas

[covert elbow]

Just like the rest of the game the maps are poorly executed

[wind shore]

And any of content

[wind shore]

100 single Tigers running around the map

[finite berry]

lmao

[wind shore]

I’m joking of course

[novel geyser]

more players than 100 you run the risk of now spreading the playerbase too thin per server
any players less than 100 the gamemode will be doa

[pine ember]

HE HAZ TO DRIVE FAZTER

[finite berry]

WARUM BLOCKIERST DU SAU DIE LINKE SPUR

[pine ember]

Hell let loose is platoon vs platoon

[pine ember]

ALDER ICH KOMM MIT 100 SACHNE 80

[wind shore]

10k players in 1 map, imagine this

[finite berry]

100 players per server also can severely decrease performance

[wind shore]

Imagine that performance is ok

[pine ember]

Hopefully not

[oak current]

Ajo jetz Harald, reg disch ned uff! Denk an dei Blutdruck!

[silk igloo]

The maps are fine in size, they just become denser and worse as time goes on. Players expect that they should be able to charge a point, and instead of fixing the issue by giving infantry more tools to break stalemates, the devs increase clutter in the map.

[oak current]

[covert elbow]

By platoon you mean squad then yes because BM labels each “squad” as a platoon

[oak current]

anyways..english, right

[covert elbow]

Yep good point

[wind shore]

ок

[pine ember]

Soooooo

[pine ember]

Nein

[covert elbow]

Also doesn’t help with how easy garrisons are to put up frontlines become almost non-existent

[pine ember]

Sprich

Deutsch

du

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/veterans-day-salute-to-2022-gif-27078359

[wind shore]

Nein, Ich spreche Russicshen und English

[pine ember]

https://tenor.com/view/deutsch-gif-5568595991139620100

[wind shore]

Ich nicht könen sprechen Deutsche gut, mal

[covert elbow]

Gabba gool

Gabba gee

[finite berry]

Hurensohn :)

[covert elbow]

I need to pee

[pine ember]

Finally someone got it XDDD

[wind shore]

[novel geyser]

I wonder how much of a difference would be made if garrisons need to be built like engineer structures

[covert elbow]

Sorry am I not getting this joke because my country won 2 world wars?

[pine ember]

Hey that rhymes

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/switzerland-che-swiss-bern-zurich-gif-8752383370646169995

[novel geyser]

I actually think that would be better, you need someone with a hammer to actually build it, the SL just puts the blueprint down
although I think the main issue is people just dont build garrisons soooo...

[pine ember]

No, because we actually have humor

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/switzerland-flag-gif-europe-gif-27418136

[worthy charm]

Dieser Kommentarbereich ist leider nicht Eigentum der Bundesrepublik Deutschland.

[pine ember]

Ah the small and rich fake Germany

[wind shore]

Good watches

[covert elbow]

Isn’t… isn’t the German stereotype that you guys are always to serious and don’t have humor?

[pine ember]

Noch nicht

[silk igloo]

So it'd be back to the beginning where you needed 2(?) players near you to build a garry

[novel geyser]

I didnt know that was a thing

[silk igloo]

And 1 for an OP

[pine ember]

It is, but actually, we have it

[covert elbow]

Yea I’d like that. Could also go with a garrison object change since the tables just weird

[vernal tartan]

German humour is too advanced

[novel geyser]

if they stick with tables as garrisons we should be able to build them in more indoor areas

[covert elbow]

Much rather have like a forward operating post wirh a radio set; camoflauge netting, ammo crate, etc

[novel geyser]

or maybe we can upgrade garrisons like we can upgrade bunkers and they get their own shelter

[silk igloo]

Could just make it so garrisons are captured instead of dismantled, and shooting them with a rocket simply disables them until captured by an enemy or reset by a friendly

[pine ember]

Thats it, even the humor is overengineered

[covert elbow]

Upgraded garrisons allow for resupplies or the ability to change classes or loadouts on the fly

[wind shore]

I love German beer 🍺

[vernal tartan]

I think you should, but you would have to build a small radio post outside so that the building won't obstruct the signal

[covert elbow]

Just make garrisons some kind of F.O.B.

Hell that’s what they should be called

Outposts and Forward Operating Bases

Why’s it even called a garrison?

This isn’t what a garrison is

[pine ember]

Any other beer isnt beer

[wind shore]

Garnison it’s the place there deployed troops

[pine ember]

Our Reinheitsgebot is older than entire countries

[wind shore]

Fully agree ( maybe Netherlands also, but it’s not accurate )

[finite berry]

Wir arbeiten dran.

[pine ember]

No hate to my Dutch friends, but the beer is an insult to any other beer

[wind shore]

I’ve drank Dutch beer also, and it feels ok also

[finite berry]

How many Germans does it take to change one light bulb?

One, we don't have humour and are very efficient. :)

[novel geyser]

it almost seems like garrisons were designed for defense in mind and outposts for offense

which would add up considering red zone garrisons used to not be a thing

[pine ember]

Soooooo

[covert elbow]

That seems the logic behind it

[silk igloo]

66 divisions to make the poles do it for them

[covert elbow]

But then they changed it so garrison can be used in the red. But they need to be super far away because of the dumb 100 lock radius

[thorny acorn]

le tank

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/ww2-dogfight-gif-22944738

[silk igloo]

It's not even that dumb when you use the garris in a frontal attack, just ~100 meters into the red. Even if it's initially red, it'll go green soon when your troops push to the strongpoint.

[worthy charm]

Müssten einen deutschen als mod instalieren, lol

/s just kidding of course

[finite berry]

Oder einen Österreicher; hat schon damals funktioniert

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mrs-puff-sweat-nervous-gif-9320820

[pine ember]

Und dann schön auf die Deutschen schieben

/s of course

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/here-we-go-again-gta-gif-20483040

[covert elbow]

Yea if people use outposts to create a bulge in the frontline you could use that to set up a garrison that way

Pretty good tactic

[worthy charm]

Alle guten Dinge sind 3

[covert elbow]

Shame it’s not used way most of the time

[finite berry]

Diesmal klappt's bestimmt 👍

[covert elbow]

Okay guys I think we’re pushing it with the German

Isn’t there a German chat for y’all to talk in your native tongue?

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/wipe-off-sweat-bradley-hall-clear-the-perspiration-wash-away-sweat-gif-5666657092934823161

[wind shore]

They could speak German language , why not

[worthy charm]

We are in the german chat

Muhahahahaha!!!

[covert elbow]

Litterly 1938

[wind shore]

It’s public chat, they can talk in other languages if they want

[silk igloo]

I feel like everyone has been traumatized by all the "garrison one meter into the red" stuff so they never use red garris in a fashion other than flanking

[pine ember]

Jaaaaa

[covert elbow]

Pretty much

[pine ember]

500 Milliarden Sondervermögen

[worthy charm]

To be safe here and not get kicked for being stupid, I shall not go deeper into that.

[wind shore]

Please, more German language!)

[covert elbow]

Altough tbh it’s always fustursting to have a perfectly good place for a garrison on the border and a SL puts it in the red

[worthy charm]

Which is mostly for infrastructure, only 100 Billion for the military.

[covert elbow]

Lmao why? Should we move it to #ww2-history ?

[worthy charm]

noooo

[gentle lintel]

thats a contentious point if 1938 was ww2 or not

[covert elbow]

What?

It… it litterly was

[pine ember]

Neeeiiiinnnnnn

[worthy charm]

Uff

[wind shore]

1938 wasn’t WW2

[thorny acorn]

it wasn't?

[wind shore]

Yes

[thorny acorn]

like wdym ots a debate

[covert elbow]

That was the annexation of Austria and Chekasolvakia

[pine ember]

https://tenor.com/view/type-90-main-battle-tank-mbt-gif-18128458482653476261

[gentle lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[thorny acorn]

well there was no war

[covert elbow]

Okay

[finite berry]

What do you mean, they clearly wanted to join us :) /s

[worthy charm]

You need to share!!! New server rule

[finite berry]

surprise Anschluss

[pine ember]

They asked for it

[covert elbow]

Was 1939 not WW2 then because nothing happened for 8 months?

Or does it count because something happened before the phony war

[silk igloo]

Slovaks were ready to rebel in favor of germany, innit? It's not a country anymore for a reason

[gentle lintel]

personally I just believe whatever mark felton tells me

[thorny acorn]

well 1938 led to ww2 it wasn't part of it

[finite berry]

Slovakia is a country

[thorny acorn]

its a country lol

[covert elbow]

If your getting your WW2 history from mark Felton you need to reconsider your life’s choices

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/cunk-earth-philomena-egypt-pyramids-gif-1842547420969447960

[thorny acorn]

thats a real source

[wind shore]

Philomena Cunk , I love her sence of humour

[thorny acorn]

i believe everything she says

[wind shore]

She is joking sometimes, and everybody think that it’s true, but she has sence of humour

[silk igloo]

Yeah but czechoslovakia isnt.

[thorny acorn]

oh true, but u didn't said so

[finite berry]

Good ol' times when Jugoslavia was still a thing

Made naming the balkan countries so much easier :)

[thorny acorn]

kingdom yes, communist federation no

[finite berry]

agreed

[thorny acorn]

tbh both no actually, it was toxic from when it was called kingdom of serbs croats and slovenians

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-cheese-charlie-day-gif-14551389974120511159

[pine ember]

Can we get more North Afrika maps please?

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/philomena-cunk-cunk-on-shakespear-cunk-on-earth-who-are-you-what's-your-game-gif-14767140085835746055

[pine ember]

https://tenor.com/view/zketch-history-zdf-sketch-history-zdf-zdf-sketch-rommel-gif-21449196

[wind shore]

Battle of Algeria?

[covert elbow]

Waiter! Waiter! More overpriced cosmetic DLC that should be base game please!

[gentle lintel]

no idea what it says but I know it's angry

[covert elbow]

I swear we’re gonna get another British map and we’ll get a greatcoat and leather jerkin for $12

[wind shore]

Tobruk it’s the new level of African maps

[pine ember]

There wasnt a big battle in Algeria as far as I know

Lybia or Egypt would be cooler

[pine ember]

Its for the maps

[wind shore]

I’ve searched some urban battles to make a suggestion , I’ve found some photos of Tunis, but it wasn’t in Tunis(

[pine ember]

And for a Rommel skin I would pay

[pine ember]

Why always urban? There ware a lot of non urban battles too

[wind shore]

We have Libia and Egypt

Tobruk - Libya, Egypt - El Alamein

[pine ember]

Not enough

Atleast two more please

[covert elbow]

Like funding?

[wind shore]

Other stuff are flat if it’s non urban , flat deserts except casserine pass

[wind shore]

So it should be not Libya and Egypt, it could be Tunisia

[pine ember]

No, I want more desert maps

[covert elbow]

Sure but the current DLC standards are insane

[wind shore]

Or Algeria

[covert elbow]

HLL isn’t a MilSim put it best

[wind shore]

It also has urban styles like Tobruk

[covert elbow]

And heck the most recent DLC are the best examples.

[pine ember]

It doesnt have to be, but always urban is boring

[covert elbow]

The $12 should have all been free cosmetics added as unlockables while the LRDG bundle is perfect for $5

[pine ember]

No, it could be also more Lybia or Egypt

[covert elbow]

T17 is being incredibly greedy

[finite berry]

Well, aren't they "rightfully" charging those prices when people keep buying them, tho?

[wind shore]

Yes, but flat desert it’s flat desert , it could be some towns like Tobruk and another part of the map , desert 🏜️ and camels 🐪

It’s located in Tunisia and Algeria

We have not Tunisia and Algeria , we have Egypt and Libya in game

[pine ember]

But they could also expand on the current maps

[pine ember]

No reason to expand when we dont have enough maps

And in Algeria there werent the British so it doesnt fit

Kasserine would be cool though

[wind shore]

French with Germans vs US were there

[covert elbow]

“Rightfully” isn’t the correct word

[finite berry]

Sorry, but you understand what I meant?

[covert elbow]

But yea. People keep buying them so there’s no reason to stop

[wind shore]

Something on 1942 based in Western Africa

[finite berry]

Is justified a better word?

[wind shore]

African maps definitely needs the expansions and additions to that theatre

[pine ember]

But not the Brits so we need a new rework, and French should be their own faction set in 1940

[wind shore]

Agree

I already love Tobruk map

For this gameplay and style

Have you played new Indiana Jon

Where is DAK forces deployed near the pyramides

[covert elbow]

Not really

[finite berry]

Help me then, please

[wind shore]

https://youtube.com/shorts/xElxP5FUzJ4?feature=shared

[covert elbow]

I don’t know enough English to have a precise word to explain it

Well… I guess justified would work

I know there’s a really obscure and precise word to exactly explain the situation but I don’t know it

[wind shore]

I’ve seen one map where was the battle, it’s ancient towns in caves , in Africa, like a big whole in the ground where houses stayed

[nova pivot]

Budapest: germany vs Russia. It's a battle that is rarely seen in video games, I would love to see it.

[wind shore]

Battle of Tripoli, 1941 , Africa

[light tiger]

Pacific theater would be a great addition, but the devs have noted that if they would want to do that right, so likely wouldn’t be something near future. Lamesauce 😆.

[wind shore]

it's just simply jungle from palms or if take Iwo Jima - it's just 1 big open field with mountain

i can't imagine how it would works

nobody asked how it would be

everybody asked just add , and that's all, but how it was - Pacific in WW2, and how it will work in game

[light tiger]

Respectfully disagree on simply jungle, but appreciate your input. It’s for sure more than that, but yes, getting proper gameplay is key.

[gentle lintel]

^ most sane internet user

[wind shore]

If it would be full historical accurate map also, if it was no AT guns for Japanese, it should be no AT guns for Japanese, if it was arisaka vs garands, it should be arisaka vs garands , just an example

They had AT guns - Japanese , somebody mentioned that they had no, but i found Type 97

They had different equipment , Japanese forces

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/grandma's-boy-genius-im-a-genius-gif-12650243091596741416

Anybody seen Grandma's Boy?

[wind shore]

Me?

[wind shore]

If anybody hasn't seen Grandma's Boy, log out, watch it twice, come back

[neon ivy]

is there a carentan 24/7 server that anyones set up?

[hollow musk]

You guys ever feel as trite and as gay as a daisy May?

[wind shore]

Hell yeah

[hollow musk]

Perhaps you also feel as normal as Blueberry pie?

[wind shore]

Blueberry pie invokes Heretic

Was epic

"My wife is making blueberry pie. Would you like a slice?"

https://tenor.com/view/candle-light-flame-lit-gif-11435477834686741799

[brittle delta]

Lewis vs BREN?

BAR vs M1919?

I just unlocked Lvl3 MG, wondering what's the best to stick with

[silk igloo]

Bren is better than the lewis in almost every regard. It's great in short, mid and long range, just less ammo and cant kill trucks

[brittle delta]

Do you carry more magazines to compensate?

[silk igloo]

Idk the total ammo count, but it's hardly ever relevant.

[brittle delta]

It can be if you are sitting on overwatch far from resupply

10x 30rnd magazines ≠ 10x 47rnd magazines

[arctic rampart]

No, you legit won't ever run out of ammo unless you're pointlessly shooting

The probability is so small that you can take it as "never"

Unless you're playing a medic with the 2nd (?) loadout, but playing a medic is pointless, so again "never"

[worthy charm]

Medic best classe in the game objectivly

[arctic rampart]

You only play tanks, how would you know

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/wisdom-wisdomous-intelligent-smart-gif-14536675

[arctic rampart]

いや、貴方の頭がよない。

[worthy charm]

also I dont only play tank, when I join a Team and the only tank squad are Timmy (lvl. 3) and Jonathan (lvl. 11), then there is no point in trying. I always try it for sure, but most of the time im met with silence.

[arctic rampart]

We should recon tank together some time

[wind shore]

I'd be down to be a tank apprentice

Never even thought about trying a tank like I never thought about trying recon 💀

[slate canopy]

Recon tank can be so fun. Everyone wants the big boy tanks, and I'm like zoooom pew pew

[wind shore]

What are the rank classes? Recon, medium, heavy? I can look it up but I'd rather have human interaction

[slate canopy]

There is currently recon, light, medium, and heavy.

They do talk of changing the tank layout so it's less heavy-meta, not sure how they'll change it.

Recon is your lightest, fastest moving, no need to shift up-and-down as a driver. Obviously, most squishy too.

Game starts with a recon, light, and medium tank.

And those auto-spawn as the game goes on and something isn't in it's spawn spot.

[worthy charm]

Killing a one or two heavys, before getting killed in a recon might be the most enjoyable tanking experience there is.

[slate canopy]

Oh, when that happens. 🤌 You feel like a GOD.

[worthy charm]

Im already a GOD
True, sadly its hard to do with randoms.

[wind shore]

Am I’m mistaking something? Recon could penetrate heavy

Or I’m the bad tanker

[worthy charm]

In the back, it takes 6 shots but its possible

[wind shore]

Ah okay

[worthy charm]

Still weird that a single person with a rocket launcher does more damage than a tank cannon...

#BuffReconTank

OR
#GiveMeTheTankUpdateFaster

[vernal wadi]

Tanks are the last thing that needs updating

[mellow knoll]

Uh, you mean first

[gray garden]

incorrect.

[mellow knoll]

They're the worst part of the game right now

[worthy charm]

They absulutly do, have you seen the tank meta since they added heavys?

[vernal wadi]

No. The core gameplay needs to be changed

[real parrot]

🧢

[worthy charm]

Tanks are a part of the core gameplay

[vernal wadi]

Core gameplay (majority plays infantry) needs to be changed

[real parrot]

Majority its not core, core is how its supossed to be

[worthy charm]

Its a huge diffrence for infantry how tanks work

[mellow knoll]

You know why most play infantry now? It's because Tanking as a gameplay feature is extremely boring right now. Take it from a 3K hour tank main.

Infantry needs almost no changes compared to tanking.

[vernal wadi]

You can't improve tanking ahead of changing how the game plays

[real parrot]

yes you can?

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/yusii2-robert-de-niro-funny-now-thats-funny-analyze-this-gif-27556280

[vernal wadi]

How the game plays needs to be changed before any meaningful changes to the tank gameplay can be made without increasing further need for change

[real parrot]

No it don't

[vernal wadi]

Yeah okay you're right have a good night

[real parrot]

ok

Its 7pm

[worthy charm]

I will give you you do make some great jokes. Lets keep it real though, this isnt the trolling channel, that would be #1098158460463480842
Someone wanna do a new pacifik suggestion?

[real parrot]

Yes, bob semple when

[mellow knoll]

Bruh I've been violated

[worthy charm]

We need that one fr

[mellow knoll]

I do good suggestions 🥲

[worthy charm]

how many mgs does it have? 6 or 7?

[real parrot]

you didn't suggest bob semple

[real parrot]

A lot

[mellow knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/my-bad-my-bad-jidon-adams-jidion-im-sorry-i-apologize-gif-25328778

[worthy charm]

Youre fine man, Im just kidding.😅

[mellow knoll]

ik 😂

[real parrot]

I'm not

Seems like Comrade GRIM fell asleep on top of the keyboard

[gray garden]

That's unfortunately never happening because T17 thinks any change they make would be too controversial in the short term to justify... Even though this game desperately needs it and would benefit from gameplay overhauls in the long term.

In the Q&A they were talking about "Listening to the most voices, not the loudest voices", which suggests to me they will never make gameplay overhauls since the community can't agree on jack.

Most we're going to get is a couple of stat buffs for weapons/commander call ins/some slight tweaks like xp for suppression and marks..

[worthy charm]

We all remember the sprint speed increase.

How much was it 15%?

[real parrot]

A soldier running faster than a tank at max speed is certainly a certified Hll moment

[worthy charm]

It was game breaking, sadly it was cool but unplayable for tanks and the ruberbanding got really bad.

[real parrot]

It would be ok if tanks could drive at their actual speed

[gray garden]

lol then make the tanks faster or say eat it. This game has the slowest running speed of any teambased tactical shooter on the market, and only gets away with it because you have the redeploy meta.

[mellow knoll]

That's what happens when you give a tank only 4 gears.

And/or restrict the speed to 25kph

[real parrot]

I'm all in for realistic tank and infantry speed, make the puma go 90km/h

[gray garden]

😈

[real parrot]

Both forward and reverse

And one shoot a Jumbo with a side shoot

[mellow knoll]

Might I ask a question. How tf do I get HLL class roles

[gray garden]

maybe not that fast lol, something that fits the map size

in the server u mean?

[mellow knoll]

ye

[gray garden]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1342656902089277590

[worthy charm]

They cant because of the code, somewhat because tanks get crazy the further they are away from the middle of the map. Chum knows more.

[mellow knoll]

bruh how'd I not see that channel ty

[real parrot]

Its it actual speed on road, anything else would be like 40 km/h at max

[real parrot]

Skyrim Aaahhhh code

[slate canopy]

You can always go to the top left, select the down arrow next to "Hell Let Loose" and select show all channels. 🙂

[mellow knoll]

tyyy

[worthy charm]

Is skyrim that bad? only got like 100h in this game, on like 7 characters, is it hard to imagine I have a short attention span?

[gray garden]

But yeah the runspeed dillema was imo the nail in coffin for hll ever innovating on its gameplay in any meaningful way. they saw that 1) any major changes would be much too divisive and 2) how much they were burdened by the codebase

[worthy charm]

lol

[slate canopy]

Skyrim horse 🤭

[worthy charm]

BM did this code very dirty.

[real parrot]

When the game got launched, an error on the code make it so every second the savefile would corrupt further, and worse the more you get further than Witerun, until the game would be unplayable

[worthy charm]

It should be a spider instead (except for arachnophobia obviously)

[gray garden]

no doubt. i bet t17 honestly felt scammed once they realized the severity of the spaghetticode 💀

[worthy charm]

I read their 2023 finacial report and they seemed to be happy about the purchase.

[real parrot]

Honestly the worst part is since Hll is practically on life support, even if they added the changes we need and fix the game people would just leave the game and it would die

[worthy charm]

This game would most likely die in the next like 6-10 years (and Im very generous with that estimation)

[real parrot]

Man in 10 years no one will remember this game ever existed lol

I give it 2 max and thats generous

[worthy charm]

We will see though, I dont believe anything until I see it. This kind of game usually dont have a high livespan

[gray garden]

nah i think with how many new players come through, if the game were a solid enough experience to stick with, it would be fine and we'd reach a new equilibrium. i mean, it would certainly result in squad levels of review bombs and whinging from longtime players, but squads doing more than fine now so i have no doubt hll if it radically adjusted its course could do the same.

[wind shore]

Did the U.S have a heavy tank? AI says Pershing was heavy but later was designated as medium

[worthy charm]

Nah that to low, maybe 3-4, they are still working on it and it didnt sound like they would drop it soon.

[real parrot]

If Squad 44 wouldn't be dead I'd be playing it instead

[worthy charm]

Man, that the devils game you start here.

[real parrot]

Sherman Jumbo is a heavy tank

[worthy charm]

What class the tanks are is an endless argument.

[vernal wadi]

all tanks are heavy 👴

[real parrot]

True thing

[worthy charm]

One day we will get a ratte for sure

[real parrot]

And Pershing is actually medium

[gray garden]

anyway im looking forward to hell let loose 2 one day

[real parrot]

Ratte not good

We get GTA 6 before artillery rework

[worthy charm]

Make it star citiczen and you got a deal

[vernal wadi]

man they dont even have to rework arty they could just remove it entirely and i'd be happy

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1213162804278988860/1326503629729038346/ISztni5.gif

[worthy charm]

Guys dont, they will take the gifs away again.

We just got them back😭

We didnt had right to post gifs in this channel for Years, go into #off-topic-mess-hall for this please

[real parrot]

I will post a gif of never goon

[vernal wadi]

ghost of the goon

[real parrot]

Goon let loose

[past vortex]

<@&365680483276816385> just do him the favor

[real parrot]

Do me the favor

[wind shore]

I don't know if I should even be in this discord 💀 Jesus

I was already on a list now I'm on another one

[real parrot]

Epstein list I suppose

He got banned

Skill issue

[worthy charm]

Deserved ban honestly

or kick who knows

[cyan saddle]

Who?

[wind shore]

Wild man

[vernal wadi]

Could be worse, I was in a discord that was directly connected to an Army intelligence leak lol

[grim solstice]

pWned!

[tender dew]

Hi Leute bin von der ps5 auf pc umgestiegen suche nun einen deutschen Clan

[vernal wadi]

left the second the news article went public

[real parrot]

If his messages get deleted hes banned for good

[worthy charm]

His profile picture alone should have been enough reason

[real parrot]

Srry i don't speak WW2

[worthy charm]

Moin moin, schau mal in #1343090646168240199

[wind shore]

I confiscated a confederate magazine from my dads house and it's basically a publication for special needs individuals

[slate canopy]

You may have better luck in #enlist_language for fellow language speakers.

[vernal wadi]

moin moin

[tender dew]

Danke

[vernal wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

bist du nord deutscher?

[real parrot]

Hetzer when

[worthy charm]

Lass mich und nein

[real parrot]

I believe in hetzer superiority

[thorny acorn]

ich bin B)

[past vortex]

kampfschweine

[real parrot]

If you don't stop talking german I'll start talking spanish

[worthy charm]

Would be so cool, in S44 they even got a mg34 on top.

[cyan saddle]

best german word is schmetterling and you cannot convince me otherwise

[past vortex]

mach doch

[wind shore]

I'll start talking Buttermilk

(Illegible)

[real parrot]

I'm gonna dorimir la siesta

[worthy charm]

backpfeifengesicht
Never used it but never gets old

[cyan saddle]

close contender for sure

[vernal wadi]

Kommt aus Zealand, aber wohnen im Schleswig ✊

[thorny acorn]

best german word is schlagenheim and idk what it means its just a black midi album

[vernal wadi]

Nord Schleswig

[thorny acorn]

i dont speak i lost both world wars language

[cyan saddle]

if it doesn't mean "butterfly" its not the best german word

[vernal wadi]

Es ist vorbei.

[past vortex]

its not a german word tho

[cyan saddle]

Alles kaput

[thorny acorn]

sounds german enough

[wind shore]

Schnitzel is not very good

[worthy charm]

Honestly I think doch is a close contender as well. Its so easy but still so beautiful.

[worthy charm]

Schnitzel come from Austria (please dont make any jokes about that, I beg you😭 )

[past vortex]

one of the few things that english doesnt have

[real parrot]

I hope he doesn't fail art school

[wind shore]

Failed art school? ✅

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/why-why-why-dee-pqperplqnes-gif-20613669

[tender dew]

Schick mal link

[pulsar dagger]

When will there be a giveway for the game

[real parrot]

Never

[worthy charm]

Du kannst dir in https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/413284897822867466 die deutsche rolle geben und dort fragen, hier wird für gewöhnlich nur englisch geschrieben.

[slate canopy]

You'd have to look at communities for that. The game goes on sale frequently.

[pulsar dagger]

Damn

[tender dew]

Free Palästina 🇵🇸

[worthy charm]

Außerdem ändere mal deine rolle auf PC

[real parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/tank-jumpscare-funny-meme-drift-gif-24951985

[pulsar dagger]

Will try cuz its like 300$ in my country

[slate canopy]

Let's keep political stuff out of here.

[worthy charm]

The last one was hard enough already...

[vernal wadi]

Where's bro from, Brazil? 😭 🥀

[past vortex]

also dont do that on that server :}

[pulsar dagger]

Libya bro

[vernal wadi]

Its legitimately over

[slate canopy]

It's currently on sale $24.99 for basegame in the Playstation store.

[tender dew]

Ja muss ich mal machen . Egal suche nach deutschen Clan wieso soll ich da auf englisch schreiben . Lasse es mir nicht verbieten in meiner Sprache zu schreiben nur wegen ein paar Rassisten

[pulsar dagger]

All i got is 10 dollars saved for them but the rest im handing it over god

[past vortex]

omfg

[worthy charm]

Mausiiii, so hart ist es auch wieder nicht. Die mods können dir nur schlecht helfen, wenn sie dich nicht verstehen.

[past vortex]

pls dont come on kampfschweine :D

[pulsar dagger]

Its just annoying no store region nearby

[thorny acorn]

isnt mess hall english only

[past vortex]

you dont say

[slate canopy]

You can find fellow Germans in #enlist_language and select . We have it for a reason.

[wind shore]

Finally , Tobruk runs on medium setting on PC

and it has 50-60 FPS

[thorny acorn]

i should start talking in balkan nonsense now

[past vortex]

you can get daily morning greetings there

[thorny acorn]

Фортнајт

[wind shore]

It’s win for my PC specs, other maps run very slow, 25-40 FPS

[pulsar dagger]

I play tobruk irl btw

[wind shore]

on minimal

[thorny acorn]

lol

[pulsar dagger]

Yes i live in tobruk libya

[past vortex]

i can read it, the j looks so out of place tho :D

[wind shore]

Tobruk is better for performance for me than other maps

[thorny acorn]

then why would u want the game

just play it irl

[worthy charm]

fr just get a satchel and les go

-# /s

[thorny acorn]

its out of place even in English, just randomly saying Fortnite is always out of place

[pulsar dagger]

I want to practice cause i only got one chance irl

[past vortex]

the letter

[thorny acorn]

yup cyrillic is out of place

specially bc it isn't russian one

[past vortex]

thats the funny thing

[finite berry]

from hamas

[past vortex]

pls :/

[thorny acorn]

no politics guys

or i would win

[finite berry]

😏 you sure about that

[thorny acorn]

yes

[pine ember]

Nein

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-just-fight-just-fight-dont-calm-down-gif-14004102

[pine ember]

Yes

[thorny acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/pibble-pibble-dog-pibble-gmail-gmail-dog-gmail-gif-1592494038181494840

[slate canopy]

Keep the political and religious stuff out of here. Part of the rules

[thorny acorn]

o7

-# but thats not fun :(

[past vortex]

look at the mouse
enforcing the rules

[finite berry]

Nonsense 🥲 this game is way too popular to "die". Even if devs would give up on developing it, it wouldn't "die"

[finite berry]

also wrong >:|

[worthy charm]

I cant even remember having anything religous in here. Its still better like this obviously.

[finite berry]

tfw I gotta defend HLL and S44 at the same time

[finite berry]

We can change that >:)

[past vortex]

i gatchu

:}

[thorny acorn]

there were those muslims only communities for some time, idk if u count it as that tho

[wind shore]

I think, they should add snakes in desert 🏜️, like when you crouching , you can hit by snake. And medic will have special medicaments from poison

[thorny acorn]

too complicated

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-woody-oh-no-facepalm-uh-oh-gif-21653973

[wind shore]

Imagine snake hitting guy in leg

[past vortex]

and a commander ability to airdrop crates of snakes

[wind shore]

And snake stats, and achievement

[wind shore]

Imagine the guy laying in position with MG, and he got poisoned by snake

And medic running to the guy who shouting : “snake got me, over there”

And desert bugs

Scarab bugs

And big mosquitoes

Of course , I’m joking 🙃

[real parrot]

Make pacific and let the precision strike be a kamikaze

[grim solstice]

Is there a way to find lobbies where people talk I feel like I’m not learning much in the games I’m in

I’m frequenting community servers btw

[worthy charm]

Join community servers or choose a clan

Those arethe best ways for comms

[past vortex]

play at prime time fot the server you play on

[sharp path]

@grim solstice join 79th infantry good people will coach you wee very organized. Tell them geezer sent you

[finite berry]

If you want to learn something, you can also send a DM to @maiden skiff, he helps new PC players :)

[long walrus]

why does the game lag so much after latest update

like jesus christ

[past vortex]

cache building, goes away

[slate canopy]

Clearing your cache can help.

[long walrus]

How can i do that

[past vortex]

just play another round iand its most likely back to normal

[long walrus]

ive been playing for few days now

[slate canopy]

Steam -> Settings -> Downloads -> Clear Cache near the bottom of the window.

[long walrus]

it didnt go away

[past vortex]

ok thats not normal

[torpid marten]

hi guys. i have a question for research. how much money does t17 donate each year to the ww2 veterans foundation?

[worthy charm]

Nothing?

I dont believe they said that anywhere but you can aks ben about it

[torpid marten]

alright thanks. do you beleive a company should be able to benefit off the deaths of ww2 veterans?

[sand lintel]

HERR willes willst mir auf süß das game beibringen

[worthy charm]

Also ich kannst versuchen aber ich garantiere nichts...

[long walrus]

sure, why not? its a game

[west berry]

what is going on with the server join,it loads but doesnt join. It happens after you leave another server

[finite berry]

Is that bait? :')

[past vortex]

some countries even have presidents who think vets are lossers....

:}

[slate canopy]

Does it give you an error?

[torpid marten]

it is a video game, correct. glorifying the deaths of ww2 veterans for entertainment. without supporting the ww2 veteran foundation charities.

i only ask if this is morally correct?

[west berry]

It just keeps doing the 3 dots as if it wants to join

[long walrus]

i mean, is it okay to have game with ancient romans? how far do you wanna go into history? where should we draw the line?

[past vortex]

it still joins, jjust visual bug

[finite berry]

Yes

[slate canopy]

We believe it's a visual bug. You should still join. I got it myself a couple nights ago.

[torpid marten]

i know that cod and battlefield have major inclusivity with their games and veteran community

[west berry]

no there is a issue. i have VIP and does stuck with the 3 dots. doesnt happen everytime but it does happen

[past vortex]

what german veteran community do they donate to?

[slate canopy]

I appreciate your passion of the idea, however I don't think that can work for every company or video game out there. Maybe you can suggest it in #1098158460463480842 or email the company and use those examples?

[torpid marten]

i am just thinking of how we can make this game more inclusive to the ww2 veterans

[finite berry]

We don't

[west berry]

ill report back if it continues through the week

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/president-obama-kick-youre-welcome-door-gif-5470197

[long walrus]

its already inclusive, you buy you play. 99% of ww2 vets are dead. how are 1% WW2 vets gonna play? u didnt think this through did you?

[slate canopy]

I like the idea, but I don't think a lot of WW2 vets around anymore. My grandfather being one (abliet he was not on the front lines - he was on a supply boat in the pacific), and he passed over 10 years ago.

[finite berry]

I'm still somewhat conflicted whether this is rage bait or genuine xD

[past vortex]

id rather guess they are thinking about some very specific veteran cult

[finite berry]

All my relatives that fought in the war died also in the war if I'm not mistaken.

[long walrus]

prolly rage bait. i just like interacting with unsmart people

[past vortex]

one of mine did desert :}

[finite berry]

Definitely know that one of my great grandfathers died on the Eastern Front in what's Belarus today

Near Barysaw

[slate canopy]

It was actually really fascinating in my history class to learn where the boat went and everything. I know the information and map I made is still at my parents house.

[finite berry]

That's really fascinating

[slate canopy]

He had 1 kid before he went to war... then when he returned, he had twins on the 4th of July. Patriotic much? 🤭

[finite berry]

Earlier this year, my grandfather died, and when we went through the stuff that was still in his house, we also found stuff that belonged mentioned great grandfather, including the cut-up letter that informed his wife (my great grandmother) that he had fallen.

Was really heartbreaking to read

[slate canopy]

(And went onto have 11 more kids. 😶 )

[pine ember]

Same

[finite berry]

Stuff that the soldiers from his unit tried to recover his body, but were unable to do so due to Soviet fire

[pine ember]

Mine were mostly in the east and North Africa, one was a tankman in Normandy

[past vortex]

my grandpa was 16 and got send to poland
their officer sent the younger kids home

[torpid marten]

why would it be bad taste for there to be a hell let loose monument in omaha beach?

[past vortex]

great idea

lets start a fundraiser

[long walrus]

yes, why didnt you start it

[torpid marten]

i do not own hell let loose trademark

[past vortex]

it could be the statue of a medic who is ignored by the other soldiers

[torpid marten]

just imagine a nice big fancy t17 monument on omaha beach.

[finite berry]

HAHAHA

[slate canopy]

I'm sure that's a complicated process to even get that approved.

[long walrus]

wdym, dieman owns an acre of omaha

[torpid marten]

no i do not

[finite berry]

Plot twist, he is the CEO of T17

Road map for the monument at Omaha Beach

[torpid marten]

but to drop something on a beach is a very simple thing to do

[long walrus]

he checking if we would even donate for monument

[finite berry]

the Luftwaffe in 1944, probably

[torpid marten]

you somehow just let it float ashore with the tide

[slate canopy]

I'm sure it's government owned... so it's a bit more complicated than just "drop it on the beach"

[torpid marten]

so is t17 refusing to help donate to ww2 veteran charities?

[long walrus]

yes

[wind shore]

Who knows

[long walrus]

they said "We aint givin shiet"

[slate canopy]

I have no clue if they do or do not.

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/no-yes-giga-chad-giga-chad-gif-23156898

[wind shore]

I think there are 2% of veterans alive , or maybe more, who fought while he was a kid , at 15-16 age

[finite berry]

what is even this guy's point xD

[torpid marten]

i just find it a little off putting that they may be profiting off the deaths of our family for entertainment

[long walrus]

to be make hll more inclusive for ww2 vets

hahahaha

[torpid marten]

it is for research

[past vortex]

i think he means those US vet orgs only tho

[wind shore]

2025 year , if man was born in 1924-1926 and fought in WW2 , he might be alive

[finite berry]

Do you say the same about the Romans?

[wind shore]

Now he should be at age 100 years old

[torpid marten]

there are millions of ww2 people still alive

and the romans are dead

none of them are avaliable today

[wind shore]

As I know some of vets are still alive

[finite berry]

First you talked about veterans, now it's "ww2 people", can you please decide

[torpid marten]

if you were alive after 1939 you are a ww veteran

[finite berry]

Furthermore, from a quick Google search, apparently only 66,000 American veterans are still alive, with the amount decreasing steadily

So I call bs on your "millions"-claim

[wind shore]

Only who were in military during WW2 is a vet

[torpid marten]

if you survived a blitzkreig you are a vet

[finite berry]

*Blitzkrieg

You are butchering my beautiful language

[torpid marten]

i am german homie

[finite berry]

So you are a German who can't speak German

https://tenor.com/view/khaled-dj-khaled-you-played-yourself-gif-10056063372516474517

[torpid marten]

... called a typo. dont derail

why is someone who lived through 1939 and 45 not a veteran?

[merry jacinth]

The recent update has broken something on the game, i have just seen my grenade blow up on a german soldier and didn't kill them

[finite berry]

Because it's by definition referring to someone who has served somewhere, most commonly in the military

[slate canopy]

The word 'veteran' literally means a former member of armed forces (or a persona with long experience in an occupation).

[finite berry]

Exactly, thanks, worded it much better than me

[torpid marten]

ok. technically veteran is not correct. but it could be used to promote inclusivity.

there are still millions of people alive from the ww2 period. and that war has effected all of them

[slate canopy]

There is lots of people affected by war, whether directly and indirectly. It's hard to distribute money or resources to anyone.

I appreciate your passion, you can recommend some charities or something similar to Team17 if you feel so inclined.

[long walrus]

Ask Ye, he might know some

[torpid marten]

i feel like t17 hould have there own foundation. and distribute money and awareness directly to those individuals and families

[long walrus]

why cant you do it?

[torpid marten]

i do not own the trademark of t17. nor profit off of ww2 war games

[long walrus]

so what? cant you still do it nonetheless?

[torpid marten]

its like... i will take your families suffering... and convert it into billions of dollars. and you wont get anything from your grandfather being dead

[finite berry]

And why should they

https://tenor.com/view/delusion-delusional-youre-delusional-get-him-outta-here-leave-gif-23600662

[torpid marten]

if our grandfathers never started or fought in the war they wouldnt even have a game

[finite berry]

sorry, but why?

Again, why stop at WW2?

Why not also WW1?

Or the Franco-Prussian war?

Or the medieval times?

[torpid marten]

i didnt know t17 made a ww1 game

[finite berry]

Other companies did

[torpid marten]

yes. they have foundations and charities

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[torpid marten]

i know cod and battlefield do.

[finite berry]

A charity to the fallen of medieval warfare :D

[slate canopy]

According to a quick google search, Team17 has donated to various chartities.

[torpid marten]

which one is specific to ww2

[long walrus]

You cant say that. Dieman is here for research, surely he did a quick google search!

[vernal wadi]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1198433033259335810/1210736895235985458/attachment.gif

[torpid marten]

how about 60% of all in game dlc content is donated to ww2 foundation

[slate canopy]

They donated to a charity to help build a new Children's Care center. They have donated with Dredge(a game they published) to a New Zealand Whale and Dolphin conservation.

[torpid marten]

i would love to see t17 donate directly to the ww2 victims and families

it is their game afterall

[finite berry]

based 🐬

[finite berry]

They have zero obligation to do so

[long walrus]

how much will you get?

[torpid marten]

and the amount of people who are against donating to charity of ww2 people is disguisting

[finite berry]

Why don't you go donate lol

[torpid marten]

who says i dont

i give moeny to the berlin and munich museums

[finite berry]

okay

[slate canopy]

Again, contact Team17. That's not for us to decide, it's up to them. Can we please move on?

[finite berry]

good for you

Now just be so kind and let others decide for themselves whether they want to donate or not

[torpid marten]

there is nothing shameful about donating money to charities

dont try and make me feel bad

[slate canopy]

There is not, but I think we're at a point of where this conversation is going no where.

[long walrus]

hes the victim

[torpid marten]

wow.

[finite berry]

There is nothing shameful with not donating either

[torpid marten]

making someone who advocates donating to charity and helping ww2 people makes me the victim.

why would you turn on someone trying to promote inclusivity

[long walrus]

i think we got your point and we dont care

[torpid marten]

you have made it clear. you dont care about ww2 or charities. moving on now.

[wintry thistle]

Should the random factory worker in America who is still alive get money?

I think charity’s only donate to veterans and definitely not people who were affected by the war

[slate canopy]

We dropping it. Move on

[weak flume]

Guys can i turn the radio voice filter off in proximity chat?

[slate canopy]

Radio voice filter?

[wind shore]

If i get put on yet another FBI/CIA list bc of being in this discord im going to be highly upset with everybody's parents

https://tenor.com/view/grandma's-boy-genius-im-a-genius-gif-12650243091596741416

[worthy charm]

The bois couldnt agree, either way funny to ready thru this conversation,

[worthy charm]

There is no filter, maybe someone only had a bad mic.😅

[weak flume]

no.. this used to be a thing. and i have it on after all my settings were reset. same dude sounds normal in squad chat

[worthy charm]

Ok...

[long relic]

has anyone considered having assists for killing a tank
might boost teamwork between multiple at guys cuz sometimes i think eh i wont be the one to kill the tank might as well leave it to the other ppl

[silk igloo]

get spanked

[thin lotus]

assists? who really cares?

[long relic]

why not tho

[thin lotus]

why should it matter, the tanks dead

[worthy charm]

Sadly some people arent satisfied with good teamplay and need some exp.

[thin lotus]

the strange obsession over 'points' for assists detracts from what ought to be done anyway

XP was legitimately a mistake

XP doesn't promote teamwork, it hinders it. XP is well meaning but is counterintuitive in practice

[wind shore]

Yeah....

[worthy charm]

so true

[silk igloo]

it keeps players engaged until they become addicted. like me. so it worked pretty well.

[thin lotus]

a scoreboard that clearly shows tangible values is much more useful than whatever the hell HLL has going for it

[arctic rampart]

XP's gucci in general. I love the idea of lvl 500 existing and slowly progressing to it. The only down side are bob bozos

[thin lotus]

"Kills - 102"

is a lot better than

"Combat score - 1300"

You cant even determine what the second means.

Other than "My score is higher, so maybe I'm better?" It's useless info

[blissful crypt]

yo i have a problem with my mic on hll

it works on other apps like discord

but it dont on hll neither does the disconnect or connevt thing

when i press c or v nothing happens

[arctic rampart]

Oh that yeah, tangible score would be cooler

[thin lotus]

It's the same issue with Defensive score, support score, and whatever the other one is, I dont even remember.

Just numbers presented in the most useless and obscure way

[raw sequoia]

type shi

[slate canopy]

The 4 scores are combat, offensive, defensive, and support.

[arctic rampart]

And sadly combat's the only one that matters, whilst also being heavily skewed towards roles that have some form of weaponry that can destroy vehicles

[worthy charm]

Satchel reigns supreme forever

[past vortex]

the support scorew is kinda ok

[real parrot]

Said the SL with 40 support points

[thin lotus]

He's right, though

[real parrot]

For level, you get passive income from nodes and garry/OP, most people get more with these than combat

[thin lotus]

Which proves his statement even more

[real parrot]

?

[thin lotus]

Combat score is the only category where you can discern a players effective level of engagement because they're based on tangible actions that the player has done, like killing the enemy. The other columns are obscure

[real parrot]

For that matter, combat score shows the kills, and off and def score is more like a passive income, while supp is the one you check to see if the SL are doing their job

But if we only had combat, leveling would be much harder and the casual games would be even more a team death match

[thin lotus]

harder in the sense that HLLs leveling is dumb to begin with, yeah

[past vortex]

most people get most of their score from being in a squad at game end

its so stupid

[night surge]

I used to play this game and I'm thinking about redownloading but i heard barely anyone talks and i remember that being an issue already and it seems to be worse. Is that true and what can i do to deal with this

[slate canopy]

I'd suggest playing on community servers, and maybe joining a clan would be good for you for a more likely consistant group to play with and use mics.

[night surge]

Do u have to commit to these groups and arrive at certain times or is it just like play if u want

[past vortex]

you kinda have to play at prime time for best results

after people get off work, before midnight
depending on local time of the server ofc

[night surge]

Alr thanks

I’ll have a go at getting back into this

[slate canopy]

They would tell you your expectations before you'd join. You can find ads in #1343090646168240199

[night surge]

Alr I’ll have a Quick Look

[wind shore]

When does the U.S do the first push into Mexico?

[slate canopy]

Huh?

[wind shore]

How far they pushed into the south, Germans or British, during African campaign

all maps showing that it's about only coastal, or close to it

[worthy charm]

After canada, they got less weapons

[nova pivot]

Down there is only desert

There were no important military objectives

[wind shore]

south Africa, down of the content wasn't nothing , and only limited on coastal areas

so no maps showing it

[worthy charm]

Just kidding obviously, the current situation is kinda scary tho. We shouldnt start with politics again, polar bear already had enough of this for today.

[wind shore]

Tobruk and El Alamein, both of them coastal

Tunisia, Algeria, coastal

[nova pivot]

Bringing supplies to Africa was difficult, near the sea there are ports where those supplies can be delivered. Inland there is only the Sahara Desert with almost no communication routes, it makes no sense to carry out military action in that area.

[wind shore]

Reconnaissance happening in Mexico as we speak. First part of the kill chain. Exciting stuff

[pale vapor]

jesus christ these bolt action british guns are trash worst guns in the game

[covert elbow]

Idk what you’re smoking cause I love the No. 1 and No. 4

10 mag, powerful sounding rounds, clean sights on the No. 1 oh baby

Do wish the No. 4 wasn’t directly in your face

[cedar ore]

Honestly no clue what you’re on about

Mk3 is kinda dookie compared to the no4 but im a sucker for British guns lol

The No4 irons are just 🤌🤌🤌

along with this, if you don’t wanna use a bolt action, there’s still the Bren, sten and Thompson 1928

Which are all peak

[novel geyser]

they are basically no different to any of the other bolt actions other than having 10 rounds
so really they are better than most

m38 mosin is the only one with a faster bolt speed

the lee enfields are probably my favourite bolt actions to use, just wish all bolt actions were as fast as the m38

[cedar ore]

Really?? I’d assume the Mk3 is the fastest

I mean the M38 is close no doubt but like

It’s an Enfield lol

[novel geyser]

unfortunately its not :(
the m38 has pretty much no delay between firing and bolting while every other bolt action has quite a bad delay

[cedar ore]

well damn

I mean I’m weird, I enable manual bolting

I just find it more fun

[novel geyser]

the smle might have a fast bolting animation but the delay between firing and bolting is the same as every other rifle

I use manual bolting too

[cedar ore]

Ohhh interesting

They better fix ts

I want the enfields to be THE BEST

[novel geyser]

all bolt actions shpuld let you bolt them pretty much right after firing, no reason for your character to realign the sights just to bolt.
The difference should mainly come with reload speeds and the bolting animation speed

and mag size in regards to the lee enfields

[cedar ore]

yeah true

I am quite surprised that it’s set to a delay rather than just to when the animation finishes

And it’s very interesting that they would choose the Enfield to shoot slower than the mosin, well at least the M38

[novel geyser]

I always thought it was just the animation for firing being too long but I think it is an intentional delay, which is strange because its not like bolt actions need the fire rate nerf

[cedar ore]

yeah exactly

[novel geyser]

probably a weird oversight tbh
the british didnt launch with very good weapons, lots of bugs and stuff

[cedar ore]

I mean the British need all the firepower they can get lol

[cedar ore]

Yeah I’d suppose so

RIP P14

My fav irons on release :(

[novel geyser]

good riddance to the p14 tbh

[cedar ore]

Rude

Like it sucked

but the irons were nice

[novel geyser]

it could have stayed as an optional sniper loadout but it didnt belong beyond that

[cedar ore]

Yeah fair

And the Jungle Carbine

RIP Jungle Carbine

That was awful lol

So glad they replaced the support class with ammo boxes from Jungle Carbine to the No4, I wish it was the sten but the No4 is still a personal fave of mine

[novel geyser]

their weapon research literally boiled down to a single image you can find on google

[cedar ore]

I want more sten classes

[cedar ore]

Fr lmao

[cedar ore]

Sten Mk2 that is

Idk why I just love that gun

it’s so good at close quarters

[novel geyser]

I really wonder what they're gonna do with the british faction because if they add normandy maps with the current european british faction it wouldnt be correct loadouts

[cedar ore]

Yeahhh, I’d love to see an expansion of it, but idk what they’d do

well we’ve got the Stalingrad refresh and another eastern front map so that’s exciting

[novel geyser]

ye

[cedar ore]

Can’t complain about more Russian stuff

[novel geyser]

A drawover for a tac map Juno beach was leaked which the devs confirmed is something theyre working on but thats canadians, still british weapons but It'd be a bit frustraiting if they add another map where the default british uniforms are not fitting like driel

[cedar ore]

Yeahhh true

[novel geyser]

needing airborne subfactions so badly

[cedar ore]

I’ll take all the British stuff I can get

[novel geyser]

real

really wanting a mk3 helmet

[cedar ore]

I want more tanks icl

[novel geyser]

but I'd want some normandy maps to go with it
only normandy maps I want from now on is british ones

[native kestrel]

.divagree

[cedar ore]

just more tanks for all factions would be great

like the Germans have just the luchs as a light tank

it’s just that there’s so much more we could have :(

I’m assuming it’s tank destroyers they’re bringing next

[novel geyser]

they can certainly get away with more tanks with the rework they plan with the armour systems 🙏

[cedar ore]

that’s my best guess

[cedar ore]

Exactlyyyy

[novel geyser]

yeah probably gonna be tank destroyers

[cedar ore]

That’ll be really interesting

Definitely gonna change up tank combat I hope

anyway ima get some sleep, it’s half 1 in the morning

Adios

[novel geyser]

goodnight

[opaque parcel]

admin cam ruined, u ice skate instead of go where you want to

[slate canopy]

There is a hot fix early next week. May fix it? Not sure.

[opaque parcel]

didnt see they addressed changing admin cam flying, completely different than every other update, i guess its for more "cinematics" or something but it feels way worse

[covert elbow]

Really don’t see how

Heavy’s will still rain supreme until we get a complete overhaul

[dry depot]

Gotta love this game...go to spawn on an OP, and the game freezes, when you having a banger game

That an the teammates sitting on an objective that's locked behind 2 others

[covert elbow]

https://youtu.be/LgHVqT0oQD4?si=8jHbqdf3s3NzEh_Y

Only got halfway through this video but man this has some great ideas

Would be super cool to get some map varients with harsh weather that actually had effects on the player character

[thin lotus]

teleports past your mud
nothin personnel kid

HLL rounds are no where near any level of persistent for this kind of stuff to be relevant

[covert elbow]

Like if we got proper customization we could have weight changing your running speed and depending on your clothing choices you could have freezing debuffs on Foy or over heating in the desert or summer maps

[rancid seal]

cool

[slate canopy]

I could see it implemented ... however, for it to be good for casual players, it can't be a constant issue. Like "Oh hey, you ran for 15 minutes, you're now sunburnt and half health."

[covert elbow]

I mean obviously

It’d be like your muddy and have to clean yourself off to get back to your full running speed

[slate canopy]

The questions would be - how muddy gets you to that point, how long to get that muddy, how long to clean off.

[thin lotus]

water canteen w/ extra steps

[umbral cosmos]

hey im very new to HLL but have played WT, arma 3 and post scriptum before, how does the armour models and penertration compare

is it based of irl values like post scriptum or WT or random thresholds?

[covert elbow]

Always good to test

But cleaning shouldn’t take more then like.. 5 seconds

[slate canopy]

Sorta like bandaging? 🤔

[slate canopy]

I don't know how those games hae values... as I've never played them.
As of right now, the armors have different levels of armor, including different sections having different strengths, and 4 different classes.

[slate canopy]

We have recon, light, medium, and heavy tank. I see if I can find a picture that shows the strength of armor on a handful of tanks.

[umbral cosmos]

those games use like actual researched irl values and try to make it as realistic as possible, they basically run light simulations every time you shoot/get shot

[nova pivot]

In this topic hell let loose is very arcadey

[slate canopy]

This is an example picture, but I liked the visual.

Green being light, blue being medium, red being heavy. (US Tanks above)

Example of German tanks (From an Antitank guide by monoespacial)

[wintry thistle]

Most battles in milsim games take place during a couple hours of real life time. So having terrain be affected by the players is sorta unrealistic. Unless it's structure destruction

[covert elbow]

Yea like that

And then for colder maps there could be an animation where your soldier blows or runs their hands to get warm

[cosmic pilot]

bro's never scraped a knee before

[slate canopy]

My mind then though the soldier stoppping and pulling out a fan and fanning themselves for hot 😆

[umbral cosmos]

damn ok so super arcadey, kinda shame but it will do. How do you then say tackle a panther head on in a 75 jumbo?

[cosmic pilot]

you die

[slate canopy]

Shoot the turret that the driver uses. Heavies you usually have to aim for the right angle or booty shots.

[cosmic pilot]

i see this place hasn't returned to normal levels of radioactivity yet

[slate canopy]

There are guides more in depth than my explanation.

[wintry thistle]

HLL isn't a milsim so it's never happening. This type of stuff doesn't even exist in games like Arma

[umbral cosmos]

you mean the hull machine gun or?

[cosmic pilot]

the feeling when, i die in hll because my character randomly decided to blow his hands because i stopped running for 0.0005 seconds

[wintry thistle]

The way squad has it is the best

Emotes should just exist for it

[cosmic pilot]

donate your body to motion capture then for hll

[covert elbow]

I mean honestly something like that haha

[slate canopy]

I believe so, although it's not an easy shot always..... that's what I remember being told. All depends on the tank too. Like the Panther has cheeks that are best to hit at the front, but take 3 shots, VS 2 booty shots from a Jumbo 76. You can go for the actual barrel too.

[covert elbow]

Have them take some breathes or something to cool down

[slate canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/hercules-disney-embarrased-bashful-blushing-gif-9230881

[covert elbow]

Lmao

Also would love some more immersive elements

Like during the rain if you stand still you can hear rain hitting your helmet

Or if you stay still during snowfall you build more and more snow on your person

[thorny acorn]

ah yes, building snow

[covert elbow]

Then also the ever requested natural buildup of dirt and grime on the solider

Like running up the beach on Omaha you get sand on your lower legs

What’s some other weather effects…

[thorny acorn]

a tornado on uhm idk

[covert elbow]

Sandstorms causing a build up of sand in weapons and you need to take a second to clean them

[thorny acorn]

Stalingrad

[covert elbow]

Fog making scopes and windshields have a build up of dew

That’d be interesting to see. And then you have to use windshields or your hand to clear it off

Maybe I’ll make a suggestion on all of this

[slate canopy]

I think it's a good suggestion. How implimental it can be... who knows lol

[thorny acorn]

doubt its possible to implement

[covert elbow]

I mean it almost definitely will never be implemented since people cannot fathom adding any sort of depth to the game but it’s a spark of an idea for people who want to make their own game

[snow raven]

s

[lofty bough]

Honestly first I just hope they make night fog, playable; It give you a visibility of like 10 feet

[wind shore]

.divagree

[slate canopy]

Looks you have the division role.

[wind shore]

How long has China existed?

[slate canopy]

Long time.

[wind shore]

Yeah...

Long time

[noble aurora]

whats good gang

[wind shore]

Why can't I curse in here? I can't speak without curse words

((Fr))

[slate canopy]

Because that's how the discord is set up. No bad words. 🙂

Also the rules have "Do not use excessive or extreme language, or act with hostility."

[covert elbow]

Hell

[slate canopy]

That's a city in Michigan. 😎

[hollow musk]

Are you Ricky from Trailer Park Boys or something? Hahahaha!

[hollow musk]

We just got here.

[vestal spear]

its water under the fridge julian .

[gusty lichen]

they can't even fix the iron sight bug that makes them weirdly wiggle around

[wind shore]

Hehehe yes

[wind shore]

Are video game developers going to survive what's coming?

[empty steppe]

Or just Michigan 😉

Jk jk I love Michigan 😂😭

United States version of Canada 🇨🇦

[covert elbow]

No one is

I’ll make sure of it personally /s

[wind shore]

Why does the U.S south always want civil war? They don't know that every computer in existence originates from California and China? 💀 They'll look you right in the eye and tell you the civil war happened because of states rights

[arctic rampart]

You're posting in the wrong neighbourhood buddy

[covert elbow]

Man I would rant all day but I know I’d get banned for politics so I’m not falling for this bait

[wind shore]

The neighborhood has already went to shite. Time to move out

[covert elbow]

I know you are all out to get me but I won’t be got

I’m the real one. ME

[arctic rampart]

No one really cares, but it's their house, so their rules

Still doesn't make sense why we can't post images in here tho

@covert elbowHow's the job hunt going?

[wind shore]

Historical revisionism is the enemy

[covert elbow]

**** all

[wind shore]

No, the marketplace of ideas lives on. Please rant brother

[covert elbow]

Applied for a park matinence job. Hope I get it

Thanks for asking though

[arctic rampart]

I mean, I'm guessing you've graduated school? Or is this some kind of part-time thing?

[covert elbow]

They should add my weather conditions idea

Actually make weather changes affect gameplay

[covert elbow]

Yea I’m graduated. Just trying to make some money while I figure out life

[wind shore]

Do Louisianans even understand that their entire population is equal to one metropolis?

[arctic rampart]

I bet you live in a city that's like 10x the size of mine, but it can't be that hard to find /something/ at least

[covert elbow]

Nah I’m in rural Alaska

[wind shore]

They must have thought Zach Snyder's 300 was accurate

[covert elbow]

I am close to a big city though. Sad it’s a crap show

[wind shore]

It's like they never learned that the real 300 knowingly went to their death so other Spartans could escape.

[arctic rampart]

God damn you're really seeping NA energy

[wind shore]

I don't even speak your language

https://tenor.com/view/realization-professor-albin-eberhart-von-franz-nosferatu-wait-a-minute-focus-features-gif-15616549487596639861

[covert elbow]

Wha

[arctic rampart]

About the other guy

But in any case, I think you'll have no problems landing the job. Getting outside probs not a bad thing either

[wind shore]

Leonidas took his 300 guardsmen, the elite Spartans, to hold the pass while the rest of the city evacuated. They understood death was certain. They did it anyways.

Andrew Tate != Leonidas

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

[tough sphinx]

idk how to play

[covert elbow]

Watch this video

#mess-hall message

[arctic rampart]

I bet people also watched videos when they first made cars

[covert elbow]

How else would they learn

[arctic rampart]

Playing the game?

Asking questions to others playing the game, within the game (as in not on dc)?

[wind shore]

Is it just me or is there lots of unemployed "energy" in here?

[covert elbow]

How do you playa car

[covert elbow]

Yea your presence brings it from 5% to 95%

[arctic rampart]

You know what I meant

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/nosferatu-screaming-crazy-lily-rose-depp-gif-2730454595190297078

[covert elbow]

MODS

MODS THATS NOT ALLOWED MOOOOOODS

What can we complain/ mKe some ideas about

[wind shore]

How my $500 1911 made in the Philippines has a bit of rust on it. And doesn't have Captain America engraved on the side yet

[arctic rampart]

Well, one thing I can complain about is the following.
I met my first hacker on Arma Reforger the other day. So first one in 150hours, ain't all that bad. Did get dealt with in 2 hours total, but he didn't go too rampagant, so who knows, maybe could've been faster.

Anyways, we had surrounded an enemy capture point and even started capping it, then everyone around the cap (like 9 guys) instantly died (as in got headshotted, not knocked out).
Clearly that was a hacker and everyone just started question marking in chat.
So I went on the servers discord and sent a message that we just got a clear hacker that needs to be dealt with. I got the response of "make a ticket and provide evidence".

That kind of frustrated me, since A: the ticket ain't gonna do nothing, it's a bigger issue and not just 1 assumption of mine, B: I don't play the game recording everything at every single time and C: Even if I did record, it would be such a pain to compress the video and then upload it, only for you to watch it once and then do a quick ban. Which means I'll essentially waste like 20 minutes of my time, for something that can be easily seen on kill logs that 9 people died in 2 seconds from small arms fire.

So what the heck have we landed in within gaming, that everything, everywhere, has to be recorded...

[wind shore]

I explained to my swole arm buddy who spent 500 hours on aim trainers and 1000s of hours in fps games that hackers rule the gaming industry. He perma logged out and focused on other things (swole arms & probably painting)

"Bro listen...one company simply bought out a cheating company who focused on their game"

"Basically all that time was wasted. No....no remove the gun from your mouth"

[wintry thistle]

Can we please start being political

[covert elbow]

It’s against the rules : (

Unless it’s WW2 politics

[thorny acorn]

do you want it

[midnight nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/foghorn-leghorn-spank-beat-beating-gif-12866723695374477811

[arctic rampart]

You wanna bang Prince Paul? 😏

[covert elbow]

Lewd