mess-hall

[wind shore]

nope, i meant i feel alright with out STGs

on African maps

[thorny acorn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/716473754305298462/989923870507143168/IMG_0787.gif

[wind shore]

No.4 could win an MP40 and Kar could win Thompson easily, if know how to use it 🫡

[novel geyser]

ultimately comes down to if you can hit your shots

bolt actions are at a disadvantage at cqc compared to smgs because of the slow fire rate, but if you can hit that shot first then it wins pretty much all the time

[wind shore]

++ agree with you

just know how to use it, and concentrate

[magic nymph]

any plan on crossplay PC - ps5 ?

[worthy charm]

No and they currently dont plan to add it.

[wind shore]

Tanks riding, feeling smooth?

Yesterday I drove the tank, and it wasn’t clipping while switching the gears

[covert elbow]

Maybe we’ll get it who knows

[raw sequoia]

anyone elses HLL being really slow in loading into games and having hella micro stutters?

[covert elbow]

Been an issue since the update

[next fog]

So I'm curious about the flamethrower how was it buffed?

[thorny acorn]

more range and more suppression i think

[fluid pawn]

Here you go @next fog 🙂
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/686810/view/528716440049550888?l=english

[thorny acorn]

hi ben, whats your thoughts on the bcnr?

[fluid pawn]

Haven't listened to the new album yet, however was enjoying some of their older stuff yesterday 🙂

[oak current]

the Baconator? So baconey!

[next fog]

Okay that's a good update it's going from lack luster to usable

[thorny acorn]

glad you liked it :D, the new album is pretty good

[thorny acorn]

yup thats my pfp too

Baconator

[fluid pawn]

Do love a baconator. Gotta love a wendy's

[thorny acorn]

idk we don't have Wendy's

[oak current]

neither here

[next fog]

Does the flamethrower 1 shot or does it still take forever to kill someone with it

[thorny acorn]

we missing out on much?

[nova pivot]

I dont think so

It just another burger american franchise

[echo karma]

@fluid pawn why is there no crash log for Xbox? There is functionality for it

[midnight nacelle]

@serene pivot You're all set! 🫡

[midnight nacelle]

Sorry, could you elaborate a little?
I'm only familiar with PlayStation myself.

[devout vale]

Can wait to go home and play

[thick fox]

why im getting killed by hacker

speed hacks ***

[past vortex]

just dont play offical servers

[slate canopy]

If this is official, don't play on it. Report them to T17. If this community server, report them to the server.

Makes sense. Do you have a map overlay or not?

[oak current]

nah

Then again, I play on my regular servers, who don't mind.

oh crit typing, that ol nerd

type faster old man

come on, chop chop 👏

[past veldt]

I've done a few streams and not had stream snipe issues

Sheeeesh

[slate canopy]

be niiice lol

[oak current]

eyyy there you go

[past veldt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855594228934246443/1182322582175887441/attachment.gif

[slate canopy]

I guess all depends on how big of a streamer you are... and if you have /twitch in your name somewhere.

I had a guy on my team last night with twitch in his name.

[oak current]

I got a coupon block to tease Crit every so often in a year

and theres a lot of coupons left

[slate canopy]

Just don't use them up too quick 😉

[oak current]

Ben pinged - our lil happy conversation is gonna get flooded away in a moment

[fluid pawn]

Sorry about that Das!

[oak current]

all good

[fluid pawn]

Just wanted to give y'all an update on the Hotfix we've got in the works. Will be releasing early next week all being well 🙂

[oak current]

get ready to copy & paste this as a response in a moment:
We wanted to update you all that a hotfix is currently in progress, with several issues already identified thanks to the valuable feedback from our community.
We will are targeting a release of this hotfix update early next week and will keep you all notified when it is ready to drop.

for all the "so whens the hotfix?" inquiries

[past veldt]

For sure. 15 or 20 people... Slim chance. But tbh. Maybe people tried, I just honestly don't think it affects games that much in public matches

[novel geyser]

so no british tanker beret with goggles....

[whole marten]

don't worry, this generation of HLLsnowflakes considers being told to build garrisons in leadership as toxic behavior

[past veldt]

The only snowflakes are people using snowflakes as an insult

[whole marten]

@past veldt as an exHLL streamer you learn who the streamsnipers are eventually

[mellow knoll]

Thank you guys. You finally let me get my Extra Crispy achievement. It's so good now. 30 kills on just flame.

[whole marten]

typically they're poor at execution so it doesn't matter

[oak current]

all good - you pinged...and now have gained +5 XP
HA, xp-system pun

[slate canopy]

The only major issue would be maybe garrison placements, where tanks are,... and maybe next points on offensive?

[whole marten]

@past veldt sounds like you need to remind leadership to build some garrisons then

[naive nest]

Wowee? More sets of bug fixes? Seems weird we have this every update! But why could that be🤔

[oak current]

@past veldt it seems that people should ping you for some reason

[past veldt]

I am the garrison builder. A truck and a dream and I can build any amount of them

[whole marten]

ewww building garrisons with trucks is so 2023 HLL

[past veldt]

Wins me enough games

[whole marten]

doublebox is and always has been the meta

[slender canyon]

Just got home from work… it’s tempting to play hell let loose

[slate canopy]

You should especially with it being the weekend!

[echo karma]

Whens the hotfix?

[slender canyon]

I gotta work tomorrow

[slate canopy]

So? 🤔

[past veldt]

Sure, double box is great. But I can drive a truck behind teams far quicker than I can run it

[slate canopy]

@oak current You called it. 🤭

[slate canopy]

Early next week.

[oak current]

[echo karma]

Please don't patch the funny spots you can put an op. Love spawning my whole squad inside a truck

[whole marten]

spoken like an SL without a dedicated squad

[echo karma]

Wish I could do it with a gary tho. Now that would be funny

[past veldt]

Truth. I play logi in events. I'm on my own for 75% of the game. Anyone joining me usually is a hindrance

[slate canopy]

Is that in the train yard on Carentan? lol

[slender canyon]

No such thing as a weekend for me!

[whole marten]

@past veldt oof, sounds like you need to start training up a community

HLL solo is just silly

[echo karma]

There's a couple spots on tobruk

[past veldt]

Why? I play logi for WTH. Community is there for me if I want it

[south turtle]

Wazzap

[oak current]

aww I wanted to make a joke that you should go join a community crit

[compact remnant]

If anyone knows hot fix the ps5 mic issue pleases help

Voip can't connect for me

[past veldt]

I mean we can't even seed our server so I guess I should

[south turtle]

[slate canopy]

Ah, I have a couple screenshots of people getting stuck in the trucks in Carentan. 🤭

[whole marten]

now i understand why extra people are a hindrance for you @past veldt

[slender canyon]

Start game, force quit game, then reload and play. It’ll work.
I do it every time I play for the day, I open it. Immediately force quit then open again. Never have chat glitch then,

[south turtle]

Wazzap guys

[echo karma]

I can't remember the one on PHL I think. Could get the whole squad stuck inside the garden thingy

[compact remnant]

Do I like join a server or just quit the game the second I enter

[slender canyon]

Quit the game the second you go to open it up. Literally takes 5 seconds

Like you ain’t even in the menus.

[compact remnant]

Ok I'll try it when I open

Will send an update if it worked

[wind shore]

Call of Duty is so over

[compact remnant]

Doesn't work

Already sent to the developers an email on my situation

Anyone free to play

[slate canopy]

You may have better luck in #console-looking-for-unit

[pine breach]

@gentle lintel will you join fight night?

[crimson totem]

It's fight night

[zinc berry]

Good hot fix. Now if they could just fix the crashes on consoles lol.

[south turtle]

Mb i had to get off 💔🦅🔥

[long olive]

Does anyone know if hooking up a keyboard and mouse to ask Xbox still lets you use it whilst playing console matches?

[slate canopy]

I'd suggest NOT doing that.

[toxic shuttle]

The most recent telegram about the patch update, has any of that actually been implemented yet? Are pings still giving points right away or has that been toggled off/patched out for now?

My client hasn't been updated since 4/2, so.

[gray garden]

Nope, that's just them declaring what they're working on for the upcoming hotfix

[slate canopy]

They said early next week will be the update.

[toxic shuttle]

That's what I thought. The telegram says early next week.

Next time I'll read better 🙂

[slate canopy]

Haha, it's all good 🙂

[long olive]

Incase they suspect cheating?

Alright. Thanks

[slate canopy]

I suggest just not doing it in general. If you wanna play KnM, use your gamepass on PC.

[long olive]

I ain't got a PC safely

Sadly

Just thought I'd ask before actually doing it. Thanks though

[slate canopy]

I wish you luck. There has been a crackdown on console for people using KnM on it so that's why I suggest not. Have fun games!

[thin lotus]

Depends on if it’s officially supported on consoles, which I’m sure it isn’t.
Using unsupported kbm on console shooter games is cheating

[compact remnant]

Can anyone who's in contact with the developers tell them about the voip connection situation

Most of my friends on ps5 can't talk including me

[wind shore]

Mines fine idk

[wind shore]

Maybe you should have bought an American product

[past vortex]

how would you use KM on a console game that doesnt support it?

[gritty lichen]

You don't because it's not supported

[past vortex]

thats what i thought

so how can people be banned for using unsupoorted KM?

[thin lotus]

there are third party devices that enable it

[past vortex]

yea i thought of HW
and they actually detect those?

seems unlikely

[thin lotus]

its a grey area as far as TOS for consoles

[past vortex]

its also very hard to detect

[thin lotus]

idk, im not part of Big Console

[past vortex]

and if the "cheat" HW is good its impossible

heck they could rewire the sticks and buttons on an original controller :}

ofc they could do behavioural analysis (with AI) :}

[thin lotus]

probably dependent on certain whatever anticheat programs' extent is,
as far as actually enforcing bans by the console itself (even if ms/sony can detect), thats up in the air also.

one things certain though, using unsupported KBM on a console shooter says more about the user than anything else

[past vortex]

im not following too closly but i have not eard of sphisticated behavioural analysis with any anticheat yet

seems far too expensive

[vernal wadi]

The new update is great, the only thing that upsets me about it is the priority to push paid cosmetics for two factions that have next to no unlockables. The cosmetics that were added should have been a part of the standalone game for the most part.

This is coming from someone who has bought cosmetic packs in the past both because they looked cool, but also to support development of the game

[arctic rampart]

You think the company worth around 270million euros needs cash to help development?

[past vortex]

i always thought there is a connection between profit and invested resources :}

[vocal plume]

I like the new outfits

[arctic rampart]

I always thought there is a connection between dogwater sinking games and greed

[thin lotus]

"the devs need your monetary support" meme is alive and well

[vernal wadi]

this was before HLL was bought by T17

[arctic rampart]

Valid, but I can't imagine which dlc you thought looked cool

then again, never really checked them out

[vernal wadi]

You're really focusing on the wrong part of the message

[dusty bronze]

guys, how would i perform on a lenovo LOQ gtx 4060 8gb vram 24gb ram i5 12th gen

[vernal wadi]

The point being that adding paid cosmetics, to factions that have next to none unlockable by playing the game, is a really really stupid move

[vernal wadi]

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Hell+Let+Loose+hardware+requirements

[arctic rampart]

Oh that yeah... I mean everyone knows that and you're 100% right

[slate canopy]

You should be okay? I have a 3070 and a 5600x amd cpu.

[arctic rampart]

I don't think anyone with brains would argue against that statement

[dusty bronze]

i wanted to flex, i had an gtx 1650 for 5 years finally got an EPIC gaming laptop

[vernal wadi]

It was kinda glossed over in the past with the Soviets and Germans because of muh "they have a lot of cosmetics already"

this is just so glaringly greedy that its crazy

[arctic rampart]

Yup

And just also in general the fact that Britain and the desert germans are lacking cosmetics in general. Just normal, level-locked, ones.

[vernal wadi]

yeah

i'd have the LRDG dudes be unlocked at max class rank or something

just like how the germans have the paratroopers, and the russians have the enemy at the gates larp outfit unlocked at max rank

[wind shore]

Oh , this is happened!

[devout vale]

What is one single thing they need to add to HLL, that you think the game needs right now

[grim night]

more guns

[devout vale]

Specifically

The guns are perfectly fine

All are appropriate for mid - late 44

And 42-3 respectively

Depending on the campaign

[grim night]

but didn't they have more guns in ww2?

why not add them to the game?

[devout vale]

Yes but there’s not really a point in adding them cause lots of ww2 weapons were just remastered versions or nock offs of other guns

[finite berry]

As if weapon variety was a problem for this game lol

[devout vale]

Real

[thin lotus]

because a small yet vocal section of the playerbase would cry over what is essentially reskins

[devout vale]

I mean I get it it would be cool to see more guns but I personally don’t see a need

[finite berry]

Exactly

Ask yourself whether the gameplay and especially the match quality would genuinely improve if T17 just added more weapons. No or no?

[grim night]

i play games like tf2 and in that game i have a lot of guns to choose from so i thought more guns would make the gam more fun

[finite berry]

At best, nothing changes, at worst, it gets worse.

[finite berry]

It CAN make it more fun, but usually it does NOT.

[grim night]

sorry for the bad english

[finite berry]

all good lol

[devout vale]

There’s lots of cool ones don’t get me wrong like the mp3008 which was literally a sten copy with a downward facing mag, the pps43 which is a ppsh41 without a wood stock. Then there’s the gewer 41 which is the gewer 43 but an earlier version

[grim night]

hmm

[finite berry]

Gewehr 41 and Gewehr 43 literally make no real difference

[grim night]

i did not understand most of those words

[wind shore]

I think vehicles for Eastern front and North Africa

[devout vale]

That’s what 6 years of studying history gets you

[finite berry]

He said that there are many weapons that could be added, but those weapons barely differ from weapons that are already in the game

[grim night]

damm

[devout vale]

Oh my lizard is trying to run away

[grim night]

oh ok

[devout vale]

The creature in my pfp

[past vortex]

flex?
its mediocre for hll
the cpu isnt too fast

[devout vale]

She so adorable

[finite berry]

make headpat; now

[wind shore]

Replacing G41 with G43 on EF maps

[grim night]

its trying to escape?

[slate canopy]

Leopard gecko?

[grim night]

kill it

it will never escape ever again

[devout vale]

I put it in my lap so I could type and forgot about her

[grim night]

ez

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/out-of-line-anthony-mackie-sam-wilson-falcon-the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-gif-21182970

[grim night]

or you can do that too...

but thats not fun

[devout vale]

African fat tail

[slate canopy]

Nice.

[past vortex]

now look at that fat tail

[dusty bronze]

hello, i was waiting for hate reply. wont fall for the rage bait

[past vortex]

its not rage bait, its an ok setup but not outstanding

[dusty bronze]

i know it aint outstanding

its more than enough to me

[vernal wadi]

Campaigns gamemode ala Red Orchestra 2/Rising Storm
More Eastern Front content
Bipod fix

[past vortex]

it should be perfect for what hll does if the game was optimized :}

[devout vale]

Mp3008 was one of Germanys last ditch effort weapons at the end of ww2

[past vortex]

but it isnt

[wind shore]

I think guns are good rn

It’s optional, doesn’t need something new, vehicles yes

[devout vale]

Yea and they’re very accurate

[wind shore]

Cause it feels balanced

[vernal wadi]

Guns are fine. There just needs to be more incentive for teamwork overall. Its too rewarding as a player to just do your own thing compared to playing as a team

[finite berry]

I wouldn't even say there is a real NECESSITY for new vehicles; and as long as armour system doesn't get fixed, new tanks are pointless anyway

[devout vale]

Only thing is I’m amazed I have never seen one mg42 literally melt into the floor cause of how long people shoot them 😭

[wind shore]

Agree, only innacurate with G43 and STG in Stalingrad, it should be removed from the Eastern front and replaced by G41

[devout vale]

Yea I agree. Same with the African campaign

[wind shore]

For vehicles - IS on the Eastern front, Luchs in Africa and EF maps

[wind shore]

It isn’t in Africa , it’s correct by guns rn

[devout vale]

Haven’t seen in a while

[wind shore]

Panthers, STG, G43 were removed 8 or 9 months ago

[vernal wadi]

Locking guns and vehicles to specific maps is how you kill a game and its balancing

[devout vale]

What?

[wind shore]

From African theatre

[devout vale]

It’s called historical accuracy

[vernal wadi]

You have to make historical accuracy concessions to balance a game like this

[wind shore]

But it’s pattern style of the game, just chill, I love when you don’t have those weapons in African maps and just chill from it

[devout vale]

Worth it

[finite berry]

Absolutely not, what are you talking about

It would make it less appealing to the casual shooter player, but it wouldn't kill it

[vernal wadi]

HLL is a casual shooter

[wind shore]

It’s good, in Tobruk for example you don’t need farm frags etc, you come there to chill

[finite berry]

I'm aware of that.

[vernal wadi]

So why alienate your core playerbase

[wind shore]

Guns are ok imo

[finite berry]

Looking at where this game came from, it's not the core playerbase

By now, it is it

[vernal wadi]

The percentage of people who play this game that complain about historical accuracy compared to the casual players who think "ww2 cool" is very very small

[devout vale]

I forget cause I haven’t studied my history in a while. Don’t the desert battles take place in 1942-43, but the tiger was made in early 1943. So aren’t some of the African maps in the game inaccurate on that front?

[vernal wadi]

Where the game came from doesn't matter, its no longer that game

[finite berry]

Plus, you could still bump this game a bit into a more historically accurate direction without alienating the casual player

[vernal wadi]

The new developers have a clearly different design philosophy

[finite berry]

That's true, naturally

[wind shore]

Just vehicles for EF and North Africa , they could be the same - Pz.2, Luchs replace by Kfz 222, Pz 4 replace with Pz 4 modification and add Pz 3

[finite berry]

Some people might doubt that they have a design philosophy in the first place :')

[devout vale]

They should add the m3 for some of the African front maps

[wind shore]

They were barely used in Africa as I know

[devout vale]

M3 Lee I mean

[vernal wadi]

Its just fluff and more bloat in a game that is already very large and unoptimized. Adding vehicles and guns specifically for one or two maps is bad game design

they cannot be used on other maps if you take this approach

[wind shore]

M3 Lee? I’ve seen some photos from the eastern front of M3 Lee tank

[devout vale]

Not exactly. There where many tank units that had well over 10 tigers

[devout vale]

I mean in africa

[finite berry]

M3 got used rarely on the Eastern Front. Soviets used it, but didn't like it, called it "grave for six buddies".

[devout vale]

Devs we NEED more lend lease weapons and vehicles

[past vortex]

m3 was tunesia

doesnt fit tobruk

[wind shore]

So why it should be added the same vehicles for eastern front and Africa , to economic resources, 2 African maps + 3 EF maps = 5

[devout vale]

That’s what I mean. Add it to the maps it fits

[vernal wadi]

adding more vehicles to the game doesn't change anything though

its still only 3 squads that can deploy with them

which means 3 vehicles fielded at any time with an optimal crew

[wind shore]

Yes, but for African and Eastern front, to separate this from Normandy maps and German maps - Remagen and Hill 400, Hürtgenwald

[vernal wadi]

and players being players will always choose the best they can get

[hollow musk]

Understandable, but if the opportunity rose, I would take the Grant in a heartbeat.

[vernal wadi]

i know what you're saying and what you want, but its just fluff

[past vortex]

new vehicles wont make the game better
you say "nice" once and then its still the same lame mechanics

[hollow musk]

Fair enough on that...

[vernal wadi]

exactly

i'd sooner see mechanic reworks before new content

[finite berry]

Exactly

[hollow musk]

Maybe in the year of our Lord, 2042.

[vernal wadi]

flamethrowers finally being fixed and improved beyond imagination is a good example of a long overdue QOL update

[fervent needle]

Anyone online want to play with a newbie just starting out

[grim night]

what if they add chips to the game?

[hollow musk]

Add rations first.

[grim night]

that would be so good

[fervent needle]

Have a mic and really want to learn the ropes of this game

[grim night]

well yea

[vernal wadi]

base game already has a lot of stuff that needs improvement and optimizing - i'm glad they're adding new stuff but it shouldn't come at the expense of making the base game what it deserves to be

[grim night]

chips are rations

[fervent needle]

Happy to be any role

[hollow musk]

Might fare better in #pc-looking-for-unit .

[thin lotus]

more weapons or vehicles only makes sense when they offer more variety in something other than just appearance.
I dont think there's a single pair of different weapons in TF2 that are matched in what they do functionally, so in the very rare instance that something is added it's a much bigger deal

Adding another bolt action rifle to HLL isnt going to change anything, neither is an SMG, MG, autorifle.

[grim night]

sorry mate i can't

[finite berry]

Since you are on console, I recommend you ask that in #console-looking-for-unit. :)

[grim night]

true

[fervent needle]

Cheers mate

[fervent needle]

Thank you

[kind void]

In what chat will I see when the fix on Tobruk is done? And will it be with a ping? thanks for the help :)

[hollow musk]

Oh crap I think they had the Epic Games thing, not Console!

[devout vale]

Love my K rations with guacamole

[finite berry]

You are on console, right?

[thin lotus]

so even while you could add "different" weapons like those from different periods of the war, you're not really adding variety to the game, but you are likely just unnecessarily pissing off historical purists (who are wrong in their own special ways)

[fervent needle]

Yep ps

[vernal wadi]

man you are just riffing tonight

[hollow musk]

My apologies earlier! I thought you were PC!

[vernal wadi]

nothing but fire

[grim night]

nah

it will take more time to eat them with guacamole

[fervent needle]

Such a good game, I’m so hooked

[finite berry]

check; what you could try is send a DM to @maiden skiff. He is a PC player, so he won't be able to show you stuff in practice, but perhaps, if you ask very nicely, he might be down to at least explain you the basics in theory.

[devout vale]

One unit in Korea tried requesting a care package and accidentally sent a message for tootsie rolls lol. But they actually used them to plug holes in vehicles and other things 🔥

[wind shore]

In telegrams

[grim night]

you want to eat fast in war so you can be ready for any danger

[fervent needle]

I’m check it out cheers

[wind shore]

Yes , replacing them on some theatres

[hollow musk]

Remember to Pray to the almighty SoulSniper, so that you may be blessed with folk that build nodes and drunk yet competent commanders!

[devout vale]

Getting on the game does anyone want to do tanks? I’m great at gunner and spotter but can’t drive

[tame jay]

Is anyone having issues with the queues? I have been having issues since the new update and ill click join, it says im in the queue then it kicks me out of the queue in a way and just infinitely loads

[devout vale]

What platform

[tame jay]

steam

[devout vale]

Not happening on console

[tame jay]

already validated files im gonna reinstall and see if that fixes it if not its probably a bug

[arctic rampart]

If you're on console, label yourself with the role

nvm you did xd, didn't show the marker thingy

[tame jay]

have you had issues with joining servers?

[arctic rampart]

I played on update day and haven't been on since

[tame jay]

itll put me in a queue then switch to the 3 dots like im joining but inothing happens

[arctic rampart]

Been bored of HLL lately and this update didn't hype me up enough. Arma reforger's more fun rn

Quite a few people have mentioned such issues in #1356935055968043088.
Don't make another post, but go say that you have the same (or similar) issue

[tame jay]

cant get into arma everytime i join half of my team is playing dress up

[tame jay]

try squad if you havent. Its pretty much Arma but confined like HLL where you have points you have to fight over

[arctic rampart]

Played plenty of that as well

imo it was a lot better a few years ago, it's not all bad now either, but they need to to some changes

[tame jay]

their porting it to UE5 adding better vehicle mechanics and destruction among other things

[arctic rampart]

All of that was fine in the current game.
The main issues are the vehicles essentially making the game, as well as the "branches" or "divisions" they have right now. Every game revolves around 3 things:

1. Getting a "branch" of the set military that just has the highest amount of OP vehicles.
2. Rushing enemy logies as fast as possible.
3. Who manages to blow up the enemy logies the quickest, wins.

[finite berry]

Better vehicle mechanics already work in UE4 and UE5 does not automtically mean better performance and a better-looking game

[past vortex]

both fixing it in ue4 and porting to ue5 require a rewrite :}

[arctic rampart]

I actually liked the ICO changes in Squad

[unreal grotto]

anyone lese still having issues with loading into servers

i keep getting into a queue then i get stuck on the 3 dots loading in the top right of server list

[devout vale]

They should add rocket vehicles as a type of thing you can spawn for like 500 fuel. Like for America it could be the calliope Sherman, Germany could get the sturm tiger or the nebelwerfer, Soviets can have the Katyusha, and the British idk

[nova pivot]

M22 locust for British

[novel geyser]

Katyusha is already a command ability so Im not sure they'd add vehicles like that

also I think they'd end up being like artillery, dont really fit in the game as it is because the maps are actually not big enough for it

[unreal grotto]

i have the same issue

lmk if reinstall fixes it

[slate canopy]

You're still in queue. Pretty sure it's a visual bug. I had it last night.

[compact remnant]

Yep

On PlayStation can't join a game

Just joined a game, it seems to beat affecting certain server

[wind shore]

I think it could be 1 thing next year , it would be the roadmap, definitely , in 2026

Roadmap 2026 , when?)

2026 coming in 9 months

[acoustic rapids]

Hotfix the lewis gun ya ding dongs.

[thorny acorn]

mm lewis

[acoustic rapids]

The fact the British haven't had a functional mg for 2 years is laughable. But hey buff the flamethrower.

[wind shore]

you meant the laser tag, i forgot how it's called

it's little bit not in the center, to the left or right

[lucid shale]

the fact half the game doesnt function as it should is laughable you can place garrisons and air heads inside of a rock on the new map

[snow steeple]

Just started this game today & its hard on ps5 😭

[olive sapphire]

Just wait. Your still in the queue. Happened to me on 2 servers tonight still got in no issues.

[slate canopy]

It's a tough game, but you'll learn as you go. Some good guides in #1273828697941606450 may help 🙂

[paper torrent]

if you put an outpost diagonally in a corner, there's a chance you'll spawn on the other side of the wall

even when there's not supposed to be an other side of the wall

"where are you deployed soldier"
falling into void or encased in cardboard house"...aahhhh-"_

[visual niche]

If it happens again feel free to screenshot the map coordinates so they can get it fixed up https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1242767547321942036

But yeah it happens lol

[south turtle]

I have to hang out with people today chat 💔🪦

Two girls who both have boyfriends

[slate canopy]

Nothing wrong with that 🤔

[south turtle]

Fourth wheeling is indeed bad

[slate canopy]

Or you're just hanging out with friends.

[paper torrent]

have to

👀

[real parrot]

Every car needs four wheels ☝️

Unless its a tricycle

[maiden gale]

It’s pretty easy to get the hang of

[static phoenix]

queue bug bad

[slate canopy]

I mean, you just sit and wait 🤷‍♀️

[midnight nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/half-car-wheels-jump-fast-funny-edit-gif-8904252

[olive ivy]

Chicken jockey

[misty belfry]

Boing

How’s Tobruk and super flame boys, I haven’t had my pc for a good few months 🥺

[snow steeple]

I will keep trying until i get it.

[wide hull]

My queue number (5/6) thjingy keeps getting replaced with three loading dots and not resolving, have been trying a couple of servers for a while each for close to an hour now

is there some kind of bug or maintenance or am I just experiencing stupidly bad luck with people refusing to leave?

I've played before, I know it can take a while, this is just on another level comapratively

[slate canopy]

I'm pretty sure it's a visual bug.

I had it last night - still got in the server.

If people don't leave... you obviously can't join.

[wide hull]

I get that, like I said I've played for a while, it just usually doesn't take half an hour for five people to cycle

thanks for the sanity check, guess it's just time to hope

[south turtle]

💀💀💀

[viral moon]

Does anyone know if you can cross play with a PC and Xbox?

[slate canopy]

There isn't cross-play between platforms. PC is a mix of Steam, Epic Games, and PC Game pass. Console is PS~~4/~~5 and XBOX

[paper torrent]

why do most players on here sound like they have no nasal cavity

just pure eeyore straight into the microphone

it's so offputting that i regularly take breaks from having to engage with that !@#$

[midnight nacelle]

Just PS5 and the Xbox Series Models.
It is not available on PS4.

[slate canopy]

Thanks for clarification. I have no clue since I don't have console.

[midnight nacelle]

No worries, just didn't want anyone misquoting you. 🫡

[frank magnet]

Precision strikes don't take down fortifications? Color me shocked

[wind shore]

I haven't played in a while. Been on Total War. Love that series too. Was the first thing I ever pirated: Medieval 2

Introducing a civ player to total war is fun af

tbh Total War might be my all time most loved game now that i think about it

-processing-

[slate canopy]

It should take down everything except bunker level 2 with a direct strike. At least according to the update. Bunker level 2 is considered 'heavy', while everything else listed below is 'light/medium', similar to tanks I believe. You can still satchel them I'm pretty sure.

"New behaviour - Now is able to destroy: Bunker, Bunker Upgrade 1, Barricade, Barricade Upgrade 1, Barricade Upgrade 2, Hedgehog (US & BRITS), Belgium Gate (GER & DAK), Barbed Wire, AT Gun, AT Mines, AP Mines, Ammo boxes, Supply Boxes, Medic Boxes, Garrison, Outpost, Forward Position, Fuel Node, Manpower Node, Munitions Node, Repair Station, Supplies"

[wind shore]

2. WoW (haven't played in a decade). 3. Super Mario 64 4. Rainbow Six Vegas or Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter

I was pretty sick at Battlefield (BC2, 3, and 5), and Modern Warfare 3 (both classic and the remake)

[visual niche]

I'm still watching this

[wind shore]

-shaves my nose hairs- I was around 60 in the world on the all time leaderboards in MW3 & missed the esports scene by a hair. Was semi-pro like the Will Farrell movie

My friend from the same town who played on a CRT TV was ranked like 30 at one point

[frank magnet]

It didn't even take down barb wire.

[wind shore]

I'm so glad for that. Majority of us in the U.S can read above primary school level

CAN'T

I was in Uni with this woman who had an autistic child. We went to lunch together one time and she said she makes her child do the ABCs backwards. Was strange.

[slate canopy]

I can sorta of do the alphabet backwards lol

[wind shore]

sigmabet

[wind shore]

have you been to the doctor regarding this?

[slate canopy]

Nope. I just randomly learned it a little. I'm normal mentally.

I have to actually think it through.

[wind shore]

exactly lol

[slate canopy]

🤷‍♀️ I don't get how, but okay.

[wind shore]

I've got to have a bit of the 'tism to almost make the esports scene. No shame.

Glad I didn't because I would have just been the McCauley Culkin of esports

[slate canopy]

Me? No.

[wind shore]

the 'tism

No way I could have played WoW for three expansions while making 1700 arena rating with a shite comp then moved directly to FPS and dominated the way I did without it

idk what that is

[visual niche]

I can turn my thumbs backwards

[wind shore]

if you haven't noticed i'm old now. and was hyper focused on just a few titles as a youngster

I was playing through BioShock, Assassin's Creed, and some other legendary title when I discovered women and a social life at one point

Finished none of them. No regurts

[slate canopy]

Big hikers thumb?

[visual niche]

https://tenor.com/view/no-baby-thinking-wise-kung-fu-gif-10094971

[slate canopy]

Love Assassins Creed. That's why one cat is named Ezio 🤭

[wind shore]

my buddy who was ~30 world wide in CoD was so dumb that he called me over to show me his "modded" controller he bought off ebay. it wasn't modded it was just a translucent madcatz

I didn't say anything

I also couldn't understand how he could even see on his TV lmao

[visual niche]

Wait who? 😔

[wind shore]

a hardcore nerd I used to work with said it was likely that his old CRT monitor was simply fast af when everybody else was using the LEDs when they first became mainstream affordable

he couldn't do the same on my LED i got for christmas

[visual niche]

Yeah I didn't switch to LCD for awhile

[wind shore]

*LCD or whatever. i stopped following TV technology years ago

Get this: my other friend from the same town used to play WoW with me (we were the shite comp) would duel people naked with no weapons as a hunter and win everytime.

[visual niche]

Yeah it was pretty noticeable for a bit

[wind shore]

His secret: hughesnet

he lived out of town and our DSL didn't reach that far.

he was actually really popular on the server for that. I was just the stupid warrior friend who'd run around and be like "LAWLAWLAWL"

"KEYBOARD TURNIN RESTO DRUID NUB"

indeed. wild memories in wow. also caused my friend to fail school, gain 250 pounds, and not leave his house until he was 25

he's good now tho. Swole af, lost all his weight, and rides around the country painting on his harley

three years ago he actually got a smart wife. She's like a 5-6 but she's a travel nurse so they work

tbh he did it

and he'll also simply kill somebody in a bar so there's that

weird

he's been to jail for absolutely destroying drunk men in bars. he likes to drink too

guitar hero

or 2k

i'd bet money on it

[slate canopy]

You should go to DM 😉

[wind shore]

what is that

[slate canopy]

But this is a general chat for HLL 🤫 So I'd suggest going to Off-topic or direct message(DM).

[wind shore]

im out of touch

haven't played it yet

[covert elbow]

Have you found the final boss yet?

[wind shore]

lmao no

he's here somewhere

lurked out

[slate canopy]

I've had a couple matches on Tobruk now. I looove the mid bottom point.

[wind shore]

how do you all manage to play so much?

I play for a day and then I feel like I've failed

is there a trick to playing video games and not feeling guilty for not doing something else?

[slate canopy]

I'll play 1-2 a night if I'm in the mood and it's early enough if I work the next day, otherwise it's usually a Sat or Sun.

[wind shore]

Like Grandma's Boy?

[slate canopy]

Because I'm playing something I'm enjoying. I take care of my responsibilities... but I'm doing something I have fun playing. I don't guilt myself.

[wind shore]

how do you not know Grandma's Boy dude

go watch that now

log off and go find the movie

I was watching Grandma's Boy for the second time and was like "weed can't be that bad...what do they know"

core memory

https://tenor.com/view/grandma's-boy-genius-im-a-genius-gif-12650243091596741416

you've never seen this?

https://youtu.be/a2Th8JGsJuo?si=OlhJP9uC0HMlhEFE

gold

tbr i probably won't play HLL again for a while. Getting kicked out of discord's doesn't really matter to me

if she kicks me out of here i'll have nobody to share my glory days with

before the kids became better than me

not quite the look is it

if I wasn't talking to a discord stranger i'd be messing with my boss by logging into things i shouldn't have access to

having everybody in the office side eyeing me about 4 hours later

they talk about me at lunch i know it

like Jodie Foster

THE KING

(i read a lot sorry please don't ostricize me)

Steve Carrel

now you're cookin

If you watch Grandma's Boy and don't light a gandalf pipe you're a real man

its for you

exactly for you

you're the intended audience

I like Austin Powers

are we dating now?

ITS GOOOOOLD

if you find the path let me know. i should probably just go to the local AA (i don't drink)

[covert elbow]

They need to update the weapons

Bayonets, weapon sighting, select fire, caliber based weapon damage, etc

[wind shore]

don't go back in to twilight zone

NOOOO

so is the gaming industry not trash like how all my web devs said when i was interning?

because they all said to just forget about it and stear clear

Eloquent Javascript is the final boss

I was in school with a guy who wanted to be a game developer. He was in his 7th year of Sophomore year

What sort of joy is gained from making something like that?

or what drives you to make games

I couldn't ever because I'm not that interested in games to begin with. My buddy spends about 40 hours a week pretending to raise dinosaurs in ARK and it just makes me sad

legit

My son for sure not playing video games or football

I get that part. Any programmer gets that part

I don't get the part where making cyber heroine for individuals is fulfilling

If money drove me I'd just be a spammer

Others are driven to make things useful

If I could go back and never learn how to connect internet to my xbox I'd do that

At least I beat the addiction. Ole Buddy wasn't so lucky

Its not so much that for him. Its literally like heroine where it deadens his feelings and keeps him suffering

There is no other drive in him other than to simply deaden the pain with video games and weed

[covert elbow]

Yea apparently it’s viable now

Real

Wish they added the suppression effect to molotovs

[wind shore]

It might kill him. if a person doesn't raise their earning potential the economy eventually usurps people

It won't as long as I''m still here I guess.

Or his parents.

Idk about that either because a friend's dad is up to 8 methodone a day and he's 65

i don't get it lmao

Isn't it wild that people in one part of the country get to make video games and people in other areas get to play them while they live in inhumane squalor

[wintry thistle]

Cause it’s fun

[wind shore]

So is crack cocaine (apparently)

[wintry thistle]

It’s easy to see why people can invest hours in a game

Theirs a huge variety of quality games

[wind shore]

like what

[wintry thistle]

Depends on the category

Newer games are usually terrible

But games decades old are easy to sink time in

[wind shore]

Dinosaur Raising Bro loves AC

[wintry thistle]

The new AC is terrible for a major reason that isn’t it being a reskin

[wind shore]

Interested. please expand

[wintry thistle]

Historical revisionism

[wind shore]

OH NOOOOO

I knew it was going to be something tragic

[wintry thistle]

The whole game is based on one person who they turned into something he never was

[wind shore]

Question for game developers: do you think they will ever make a true WoW sequel in the next 4 decades (probably my remaining lifespan if i'm lucky)

[wintry thistle]

In real life he was an African slave brought by the Portuguese that Oda took a liking too and had him as a cool attraction because black people weren’t exactly common in Japan. In game he is a samurai who can romance Oda’s sister

So yes DEI

[wind shore]

please respond

[wintry thistle]

No clue. Not a fan of WOW

Not a game dev either

[wind shore]

If they would make WoW 2, I'd retire, move back to my sleepy small town where rent is $80 and play that until my spirit released

is it really super profitable now? still?

i tried to talk swole arm bro into playing again]

he just spilt a beer on my carpet and left

"guess thats a no"

honest moment: im the one that talked him into playing freshman year

he failed the next year and the dropped out the next. my guilt was tremendous ((really))

i felt awful

another honest moment: i felt like i found love in gaming again when I started playing HLL. Then i noticed that every server i got in the score ratio was like 5:1

every time i join. i thought it was a coincidence. don't worry i left a good reveiw because it did make me feel again for about a year

dont you put that evil on me, ricky bobby

i'm not that guy to complain about balance.

but it feels like a setup

I haven't played because my last ten or so matches it was like that and I'm assuming it was always like that I was just enjoying myself too much to notice

its naive to believe that nostalgia is old happiness in reach

its just a mirage

i'm not going to rule that out but I think it was more like the diminishing returns on the satisfaction of eating with the more that is eaten

i came home one day and my wife was playing. she said she didn't wanna use a mic because it would make everybody else playing feel weird.

she was just trying to make an attempt to spend more quality time with me i think

"i got a pretzel in my head" - Cal, Ballad of Ricky Bobby

but yeah. idk. watching this discord kind of made me feel foolish too.

Watching this Discord made me feel like how I felt when I spent $100 on BF2042 but for a different reason

that and i'm just not that good. men like things they're good at. a cluster of psychological studies was focused on how men need to be good at something. anything. even if its something like a video game

that's true

i'm good at bass fishing. that's the thing that i'm good at. and pissing my boss off by gaining access to things they say i shouldn't so they say anyways

good at pissing the boss off is key

[long walrus]

Is the ping higher than usual?

[storm stratus]

I haven’t seen in update notes. But about the EXP improvements. Have they rewarded more yet for nodes destroys? With that when will they add pings for enemy nodes? Recon class is very unrewarding exp wise and extremely important match wise.

[vernal tartan]

Hello

[grim solstice]

Hey all, I'm thinking about getting this game, its been a while since I played a multiplayer shooter, though I've had plenty of experience before

I'm just wondering if the community is like, relatively chill? I'm very open to trying to get better to help out my team but not looking to get berated for not knowing exactly what the meta is or just being scolded for not really being the best/being out of practice

I've looked at some material and I know this isn't exactly a conventional shooter mind you

[worthy charm]

Community is mostly chill, being ready to learn from long time players and a mic is all you need.

You should play on Community servers tho

[cyan saddle]

I wanna bet that you already know more about the game than half of all players 😅

If you have invested time into understanding the game you shouldn't worry

From my experience, when you do run into a sour apple, it's more often than not them who have no idea what they're talking about ironically enough

[covert elbow]

Whats happen?

[grim solstice]

whats the reason for this

[vapid furnace]

well depends everyone talks stuff and sometimes they think they are good when they lost an offensive game as commander in less that 10 minutes

if you willing to help or fill a role u gonna have a good time no matter what honestly

[worthy charm]

Way more people with comms + most of the times active admins.

While Community servers may as well have people talking, there are no admins.

[vapid furnace]

1 downgrade of communitty servers is u cant say the h word with funny intentions

even though your figthing for his glory , in game

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther-tchalla-bruce-gif-16558003

[vapid furnace]

besides that i agree , community servers gonna be way more active and willing to explain you the game

hll official as an officer is just pain , nobody talks lmao

[vapid furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/danny-devito-frank-reynolds-eyebrow-frank-sus-gif-4295930702019673928

[gray bison]

Is anyone old enough to have played a game called Day of Defeat?

[vernal wadi]

Played the original source mod if that's what you're referencing

[sinful drum]

got banned from 2 servers over nothing. because i couldn't use vc at this moment

atleast kick or something.

and if you want real milsim just fckin join the army

[gray bison]

Yes.

[vernal wadi]

If you tried to play squad leader or any leader roles without using a microphone that'll probably be the reason

most of the time you just get kicked or removed from the role

[sinful drum]

nope. never play squad leader

[sinful drum]

idk. perma banned

i barely use vc.

[vernal wadi]

community servers are give or take but this sounds like something else was the cause of the ban

[sinful drum]

idk. barely talk.

never politics or controversial stuff, always just ingame stuff. i only play in evenings often and after work and dinner

so idk. i think its weird.

never grief.

[worthy charm]

If you got a admin in your squad and hes get mad about this it may be enough😅

[sinful drum]

this community did went downhill tbh.

[vernal wadi]

i watched time rewind right before my eyes as i recalled memories of holding argentan with an MG42 against a relentless horde of 13 year old kids playing the U.S

[sinful drum]

yeah HLL admins are redditor level

or atleast getting till that lvl

[worthy charm]

Some maybe I played a few rounds with nice admins.

Its hard to know some people tend to overreact fast

I got killed on arty by some clanman on their server once, no talk before. The dude just spawned mid HQ gave me and my two buddie a headshot and left again

[sinful drum]

i mean its in recent years HLL went into redditor status. back in the day there was a shitload of controversial stuff being said, or whole squads barely using VC. now you get overreacting admins

[worthy charm]

I still get Squad with no VC😂 🥲

[covert elbow]

Wha?

It’s been like this for like… 3 years lmao

[sinful drum]

yeah. but there wasn't this admin redditor outlash

[sinful drum]

2*

[covert elbow]

Honestly justified to kick you for not using a mic. Perma banning is going to far though

Using a mic makes this game 100% more enjoyable for everyone

[vernal wadi]

real

[sinful drum]

literally what i said

i didn't mind if they just kicked me

[vernal wadi]

tbh man u really should use vc more in this game, it makes it a lot more fun

[sinful drum]

sometimes i can't. thats the problem.

[vernal wadi]

ah, living situation i assume

[sinful drum]

pretty much.

[vernal wadi]

thats fair

[sinful drum]

night shifts, different hours of waking up of family members

kinda the issue atm.

[vernal wadi]

yuh it is what it is

[sinful drum]

yeah. it sucks.

tbh servers that permaban need to be banned. HLL should do some about it.

just kick people who dont use vc

[vernal wadi]

they're community owned

owner pays money to have the server, which means what they do with it is entirely their own choice

[sinful drum]

i know

[sinful drum]

i mean if they wanna push away people.

[vernal wadi]

people can play other servers

its their loss in the end

[worthy charm]

There are enough players to so I dont think this matter as much

This isnt S44 after all

[real parrot]

Servers owners can do wathever with their servers, they are not public, but private

[worthy charm]

[covert elbow]

I’m gonna buy a server then ban anyone who joins it

[real parrot]

Cool. you should do it

More money for the devs

[covert elbow]

Not even lmao

Pretty sure I’ve heard the devs don’t make money on it

[real parrot]

ofc they'll get money

Its their game lol

[covert elbow]

Yea but the server maintenance and housing is a seperate company

[real parrot]

Yes, but I'd supose they get a comission

[covert elbow]

Fairly certain the devs make money on the fact that they don’t need to have as many official servers

Maybe. Like I said that’s just what I’ve heard

[real parrot]

Comm servers keep this game alive

[covert elbow]

Devs get the opportunity to work on the game

[real parrot]

New map is cool btw, but I really need an animation for when the sand storms come instead of just appering from thin air

[worthy charm]

That strongly remembers me of the one south park episode

[covert elbow]

Which one?

[covert elbow]

Ngl it’s really… idk immersion breaking(?) to hear tents flapping in the wind only for them to be completely static

Devs don’t get paid and are instead “paid” with the opportunity to develop the game

[worthy charm]

Cartman get a millions dollars from some relative and buys a theme park

[cyan saddle]

They don't. All rental sales go to the hosting company, none of that has ever gone to T17 and previously BM, no commission. No fixed lump sum.

[vernal wadi]

what lol

[covert elbow]

It’s called humor

Now laugh

[vernal wadi]

humor has to be funny

[real parrot]

I really like the desert aesthetics, reminds me to the intro of Battlefield V Last tiger mission with the Tiger ambushing the churchills

[covert elbow]

Same. North Africa is one of my favorite fronts of the war

Would have loved an entire game dedicated to it

[real parrot]

Uh, its that confirmed, they don't get anything from hosted comm servers?

Yes that true

[cyan saddle]

Confirmed by BM, T17, various hosting companies including ex employees...

[vernal wadi]

wish we would have gotten the colourful townscape of an unnamed location in italy to fight over with a nice summer terrain instead of (insert green and grey location france/grey and brown location russia)

[real parrot]

ok, pretty weird if you ask me

[maiden girder]

its not weird that a video game publisher wouldn't be making money on the side by renting out servers

that would actually be really weird

[covert elbow]

It’s sad yet funny how most of the Normandy maps in game are quite literally copy and paste in some areas

And then the one map that isn’t similar is pretty hated by the community

[vernal wadi]

would have been nice to have some colour pop on some of the maps

[real parrot]

Sorry I think you made a mistake, did you want to say "every area"?

[covert elbow]

Sorry yea

Litteraly what the different be saint mere elegies and du mont

Can anyone tell them apart

[real parrot]

Mortain is literally the same trees over and over again, and some rocks

[covert elbow]

You get like the smallest 4 squares of the map that’s unique and the rest is the same exact thing

[real parrot]

For me thats not a necesarially bad thing tho

[covert elbow]

It wouldn’t be if it wasn’t the case for 7 of the games maps

HLL went all in on band of brothers the game might as well should have been called “Brothers of Hell”

[real parrot]

I can cope with it, but yesterday a power line stopped my shell when I was shooting an enemy heavy

[grim solstice]

Alright lads I bought the game

[vernal wadi]

i'll say it again - this game needs a campaign gamemode ala RO2/RS1(2) with baked in map events

[worthy charm]

Noice

[worthy charm]

Now get a satchel and kill them all

[covert elbow]

Would love it. Also make offensive have different randomized objective types would be amazing

[real parrot]

His allies you mean

[covert elbow]

Real

[vapid furnace]

whats worst a squad that doesnt talk or a commander that gets annoyed by comms

[real parrot]

Both is good

[vapid furnace]

hell nah

[frail heart]

Since latest patch I start HLL and getting major freezes then PC freezing. Ive played 6 other games this week and have no issues some even that require more hardware power than what HLL is using. Discord cutting out like its a network issue but 100% not a network issue as whole PC freezing up.

Any idea or anyone else experiencing this?

[covert elbow]

Squad with no coms

[vernal wadi]

Like, seriously. Imagine pushing the front in Stalingrad, and upon capture of an objective (if Russian) the soundscape and visual horizon is overtaken by a swarm of rocket strikes and explosions in the distance or something like that. Naval bombardments flying over your head after capturing Tare Green on Omaha. A Thunderbolt rocket strike appearing over the horizon against some unseen Germans on Foy etc

Stuff that spices up the background and the ambiance

[covert elbow]

Commander getting annoyed with comms is just normal because SL’s don’t know the concept of “short and concise”

[vapid furnace]

got this commander that he literally was complaining to have a clean comms , on anything like not even optimal dude couldnt not take the pressure

[covert elbow]

Awh that’s great

[vapid furnace]

at least a quiet squad u can trick them with a good outpost lmao

[real parrot]

Then you have a commander that gets annoyed when you try to give precise info anout a tank position

[covert elbow]

As someone with a majority of hours on commander, he was probably justified

I swear people use command chat as a general hangout because their squad doesn’t talk and they want human interaction

[vernal wadi]

A campaign mode with victory score that either adds or subtracts depending on loss of territory (that players can vote for attack or defense in) - where the entire gamemode is an eternal tug of war game until one side loses footing and tumbles

[covert elbow]

Maybe hop off of discord and actually use prox chat ya dingus

[vapid furnace]

believe me he was not , i get what you mean and he was just being too damn comfortable

[vernal wadi]

Weapons and vehicles that unlock as the timeline of the war progresses

[oak current]

"let me tell you about the day I had guys"

[real parrot]

nah if you can't stand many people talking nonsense at the same time commander is not for you

[covert elbow]

Pretty much

[novel geyser]

Offensive would be really good with more unique objectives and better objective locations

[covert elbow]

Like dude I’m trying to get garrisons up and am trying to hear coordinate’s for supply drops and bombing runs I don’t care about the huge dump you had at work

[vapid furnace]

leader comms sometimes gets crazy

[novel geyser]

It's weird how warfares points have to be atleast one sector away from one another, so if a capture point is at the top squares the next one has to be also at the top or in the middle and can't be at the bottom
But offensive a far more linear mode the point placement is completely random

[covert elbow]

Side note, with the new server options I want to be able to mold this game like Arma. Let the server owner pick objective locations, loadout/ tank restrictions, etc for custom events

[worthy charm]

-> Getting up 10am
-> Starting Minecraft
-> The servers isnt online
-> Being sad
-> Starting HLL and playing Flamethrower

[covert elbow]

What?

What do you mean the “Minecraft servers are down” it’s a single player game

[real parrot]

Wait, let him cook

[worthy charm]

For you maybe, I got friend (lol jk)

[novel geyser]

Would be nice
I think offensive would be great if they can be rid of the awful point placement restrictions and actually make the mode a little more condensed and better balanced

[vapid furnace]

what do you mean by single player game like you play it online with one controller

[worthy charm]

I dont have friends😓

[novel geyser]

I want omaha to actually feel like omaha, let us push up the beach rather than needing to resort to teleporting people on a flank

[nova pivot]

🫂

[covert elbow]

I mean it probably won’t happen considering how fudged BM made the code lmao. Didn’t they say they couldn’t make new objectives or change them around because the current ones are like hard baked into the map?

[novel geyser]

They did have before multiple points to capture on offensive and I think it could be good if that comes back to some degree but have multiple points in one sector

[wind shore]

I forced my friend to build big structures lol in Minecraft

[covert elbow]

I mean not really

[wind shore]

We were building world for 2 years, and playing it

[nova pivot]

Like different variants?

[covert elbow]

Like maybe one small objective but the player count isn’t big enough for multiple objectives

[nova pivot]

Not at the same time

[novel geyser]

T17 have said they want to redo how points work because it is currently very restricted and can easily break the map if you try and change it
It should be doable to change but it will be a delicate process

[covert elbow]

Maps to big and there’s just not enough players to cover the map

[real parrot]

You'll have your landing crafts kidnapping you into the sea if you don't get out quick enough and you'll be happy with it

[worthy charm]

I was forced to grind netherite

[covert elbow]

Litteraly all I want is for the game to be broken down and rebuilt. HLL is to much of a mess

[worthy charm]

My eyes hurt because of all the red in the nether

[worthy charm]

Free Hugs?🫂

[covert elbow]

Dude wtf is this even haha

[vapid furnace]

i just want my soldier to swim , thats all

[covert elbow]

And the fact that you can only spawn in like 2 squares is so stupid

[nova pivot]

Always

Group hug guys

🫂

[covert elbow]

It should absolutely be a map wide spawn but it can’t because the maps are to big to defend it

[grim solstice]

Going into my first match

[covert elbow]

I just wish this game was like… 4 squares smaller

[covert elbow]

Glhf

[vapid furnace]

get your slur armor on u gonna heard a bunch

[wind shore]

🤗

[nova pivot]

💀

[grim solstice]

Yeah

Oh also my game lag SPIKES when I look for servers lol

[novel geyser]

Let's take omaha for example
Let's say the play area of the map is reduced to one sector to condense everyone into the same place
The beach has maybe one big zone to secure then you can blow through some defenses to start going up the cliff then there could be two capture zones up the cliff to take before moving to the next area further inland
Maybe even have some destructible objectives or scenery that is specific to that map. So you could destroy the bunkers to help people pushing up the beach or the objective involves destroying artillery guns on the cliff stuff like that

[vapid furnace]

lower graphics

[grim solstice]

180 fps in the practice range tho

Nah mate I have a 5070 lol

[nova pivot]

Like isonzo?

[vapid furnace]

damn flexing

[past vortex]

you will get cache build lag 1st time

[wind shore]

Do you have netherite axe? @worthy charm

[silk igloo]

People would have to learn how to shoot for it to work.

[covert elbow]

Ahhhhhh having a small game mode on point du hoc would have been so cool

[novel geyser]

Yeah I suppose been a while since I've played that game I don't entirely remember the objectives

[worthy charm]

Even better

[silk igloo]

every time im an american on the beach nobody else seems to be shooting at the enemy silhouettes on the cliff

[past vortex]

i hope you dont build stuff manual

[nova pivot]

There were simple points to just capture, others to destroy artillery or ammunition, you could destroy bridges

[worthy charm]

What?

[novel geyser]

If they can do away with the grid system to they could make those map boundaries much more complex in shape rather than one big no no line

[covert elbow]

But yea. Destructible set pieces, collecting intelligence, destroying stock piles, spiking guns, securing an area, etc would be so cool to see as different objectives

[nova pivot]

In mechanics is an amazing

[past vortex]

in mc

[covert elbow]

Yeeeeeeeees that’s so much better

Can we just form our own game studio already?

[novel geyser]

The studio of ideas guys?

[nova pivot]

Lets buy hell let loose from t17

[novel geyser]

We'd get a lot done

[covert elbow]

Better then “Good Fun Corp”

[wind shore]

When I joined the server, I accidentally found that my friend farming cobblestone in the cobblestone farm for 2 hours, he was 27 years old 😅

[worthy charm]

I know but what do you mean by manual?

[covert elbow]

No this game is a lost cause. We need to build from scratch

[worthy charm]

Cant automate it or can I?

[nova pivot]

You're right

[wind shore]

Why do you think so

[past vortex]

like in survival, putting many blocks by hand

[finite berry]

Unironically yes, exactly. Why bother about keeping a somewhat healthy community when there are just more randoms to fill the gaps?

[nova pivot]

Will the new game have Pacific?

[past vortex]

editor and scripts

[finite berry]

🫂

[worthy charm]

We are in survival though

[covert elbow]

Yes but it’ll be the Philippines

Get that USMC bullcrap outta here

[nova pivot]

And Japanese VS Russian?

[covert elbow]

We getting Filipino on yo ***

[covert elbow]

No

No Russian

[novel geyser]

Too many layers of bad game design and coding plus many players are seemingly happy with how undercooked many mechanics are and any change with make them kick up a fuss

[nova pivot]

😔

[novel geyser]

Burma when

[covert elbow]

It’s like Stockholm syndrome lmao

[nova pivot]

Good mission, iconic

[covert elbow]

Reaaaaaaaal

[covert elbow]

What

[nova pivot]

From COD

[novel geyser]

Mw2

[nova pivot]

No russian

At the airport With the mg brrrrrrt

[covert elbow]

Oh

I just don’t like Russians /s

My pure blooded American veins forbid me from liking them

https://tenor.com/view/america-merica-murica-usa-born-gif-22051907

I joke of course I love the Russians in WW2

[past vortex]

but its very patriotic now

[nova pivot]

Merican patriot

[covert elbow]

Guys know how to make some banger music

[wind shore]

I know that’s coding, but it was mistake by Black Matter

[covert elbow]

Anyways

[wind shore]

Something got fixed

[covert elbow]

What do we want to call our game

[wind shore]

Stalingrad was fixed finally , and performance seems good and less crashes

[nova pivot]

When shirt less skins for DAK?

[covert elbow]

Real

[novel geyser]

Fixing bad code isn't a simple task especially when the people fixing it weren't the ones that wrote it

[past vortex]

"heaven made restricted"

[past vortex]

lol

[nova pivot]

"The WW2 Game"

Because it will be the definitive WW2 game

[wind shore]

Things not so bad in HLL

But coding, it was done bad by BM, we should not blame current time for it

[silk igloo]

It's not the coding, it's the silly design decisions that contradict the purpose of having a game about frontlines

[past vortex]

its both, for sure

[covert elbow]

Pretty sure that’s already a game

[vernal wadi]

Boy do I have the freshly posted suggestion for you

(campaign mode)

[covert elbow]

What about, “Gates of Hell”?

[covert elbow]

“We want a game with consistent frontline combat to allow people to be in the action more!”

The nefarious 2k map

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/doors-open-the-smurfs-whos-there-opening-the-door-anybody-there-gif-23616334

[nova pivot]

"Lights in the darkness"

[covert elbow]

Ohhhhh

[silk igloo]

It's the airheads, supply drops, recon being able to exist behind enemy lines, and the liberty of creating spawns almost wherever. It's gotten so bad that the meta always revolves around that, to the point where people often screw themselves over when they dont understand the consequences of spawning 20 people away from everything useful

[vernal wadi]

I think the game definitely lacks a lot of the "weight" when playing. There's no consequence to death, and you can play as recklessly as you want.

[wind shore]

Which one you meant

[vernal wadi]

Having medics as a role in the game directly contradicts how easy it is to just "give up" and try the same boneheaded assault once more

[covert elbow]

Yea it’s just a horrible loop. I don’t think red zone garrisons should be gotten rid of but Christ they need to be harder

The fact 2 people can basically win the game in 5 minutes is just unfun

[covert elbow]

Ticket/ timer hybrid system babyyyyyyy

[silk igloo]

Just limit them to the first 200 meters into red, the first grid row. Or even more, by requiring a garrison in the previous blue grid.

[vernal wadi]

If it was a bit more condensed, you could with ease apply a ticket system to the game that revitalizes upon capture of an objective and make the whole experience a lot more "horrifying direct assault and futility of war" and a lot less "where do i place my garrison so its as much aids for the enemy as possible but to a huge player detriment"

[covert elbow]

No the real solution is to get rid of supply drops in enemy territory’s and airheads. That way you can still get red zone garrisons but you need to a supply truck or support swap to build it

[nova pivot]

✨

[vernal wadi]

Garrisons are something that should exist in warfare only, and offensive gamemodes should have spawns that naturally move up during gameplay

[covert elbow]

Cause it’s a hell of a lot easier to find and locate a truck then a small tube or square in thick foliage

[covert elbow]

Garrisons should automatically have a garrison on them for the defenders as well

[vernal wadi]

yeah

offensive gamemodes suffer so much from the maps just being too wide for what it is in terms of player placement

[covert elbow]

Idk what BM was smoking when they did the system we have now in offense

[vernal wadi]

you have players spread to the wind

[covert elbow]

It’s just bad game design

[worthy charm]

Listing that would take to long, rather list what they didnt take

[covert elbow]

Back when they made the game the maps needed to be be huge for the 3 objective system they had

But after the first game tests they made it one objective per sector, but kept the huge maps

[covert elbow]

Facts haha

[silk igloo]

the maps arent huge. they're pretty small when you realize that 1 squad can hold 1 grid

[exotic badger]

uh only for me europe servers having problems?

[vernal wadi]

Imagine the Kursk map if the trench lines near the objective actually were occupied by fierce Russian resistance when you attempt an advance in a poorly organized German offensive because the spawns naturally facilitate it

[covert elbow]

That’s just false lmao

[wind shore]

More players would be cool

[covert elbow]

That’d be great

[wind shore]

200 players for the current size of the map

[silk igloo]

I've done it myself while outnumbered by at least twice.

[worthy charm]

Classic Epic problem

[exotic badger]

lol, i can join aussie server and have more ping

[nova pivot]

"Xbox s series starts to burn"

[covert elbow]

I get that but the maps are still to big in the fact that there’s to much space, no matter if one squad can hold a grid

[grim solstice]

Ayy got my first kill and died shortly thereafter

[covert elbow]

The games map size make it seem more like a sandbox game where people can create custom scenarios not a streamlined FPS

[vernal wadi]

Tickets dwindling while you hold the line desperately, a trench by trench fight, a tightly directed area of play

[covert elbow]

Nice job

[vernal wadi]

man.

[covert elbow]

Yeaaaaaaa. I’d love it

Litteraly just add tickets to offensive and it plays so much better already

Not accounting all the other gameplay changes that have to go with tickets being added

[silk igloo]

There's too much paths to cover in denser maps, for sure. Take carentan Town Center for example, there's at least 7 ways into it, and you'd need at least 1 guy watching each, or the whole squad gets flanked

[vernal wadi]

It just seems like the development became too obsessed with scale rather than making the objective areas tight and cool to play in - there's rarely any good flow to a lot of the objectives

[covert elbow]

Tbh we won’t ever get tickets until we get a weapon overhaul though. With how easy guns are to use tickets would drain way to fast

[vernal wadi]

a lot of the core map design is unfortunately based around "DIE, RESPAWN, TRY AGAIN, DIE"

[worthy charm]

Give me tanks god dammit, its for real the only reason I dont like the gamemode, you get like 2 tanks at the start as attacker and none as defender. Who the hell thought that would be nice

[covert elbow]

The development just got too big for their britches. They had plans and ideas but got harsh feedback from some people and they seemingly just gave up

I genuinely can’t explain what happened except with “the devs gave up”

[vernal wadi]

When there is no ticket system, you need something to stem the tide

[covert elbow]

BM

[wind shore]

For those need specific maps , like Prokhorovka or Dubno

[vernal wadi]

You are literally 1:1 on the playing field, when traditionally the defenders always have a 3:1 advantage - but you can't depict this properly without a ticketing system. Defenders would always be at a disadvantage unless they had vehicles

[wind shore]

Where were tank battles

[silk igloo]

tbh the offensive mode has been bugged for 5 years. you can drop truck supplies into attacker HQ, but only if it hasn't been captured yet. nonsensical bug they never bothered to fix

it's just not developed much at all

[vernal wadi]

Its such a shame because the offensive gamemode has potential to be the best that HLL can offer, it just needs a major rework

[wind shore]

I love offensive more than warfare

[vernal wadi]

and it could be a lot better

[wind shore]

It’s a lot of people there

[silk igloo]

it works fine for me, it's just that people in general have 0 experience on how to defend properly. all they do is attack in warfare too, so they understand what to do while attacking in offensive. then they never learn how to defend, so they just smack all the OPs in the circle and think that's it. surely these forts will protect us

[covert elbow]

It’s honestly the only way to play HLL for me anymore. Warfare is just to fusturating

90% of my losses are because someone builds an attack garrison and everyone leaves the defensive point, thus making us loose because everyone only sees the red

It’s come to a point where I will litteraly just dismantle track garrisons if we hold the mid point unless I know we won’t loose it

At least in offense the trail of ants aren’t actively loosing me the game

[wind shore]

For what commander exist?

I see it time to time, when commander gives order to defend and don’t leave the point

Until they reinforce the point

[maiden girder]

read the news once in a while dude https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022–2025_video_game_industry_layoffs

[wind shore]

And reflect counter attacks on defensive point

It’s usually some waves of counter attackers, in between waves you it’s time for offensive

If team doesn’t work together , of course it can lose

[covert elbow]

This was in 2020 from an indie company

We aren’t talking about T17 and their take over

[maiden girder]

oh my bad

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/head-flick-carl-warped-hit-on-the-head-get-flicked-gif-25269298

[jaunty mulch]

wishing for Panzer 38(t) every day😔 ✋

[worthy charm]

*Jagdpanzer 38(t)

[pine ember]

What shall I now say as a German?

[jaunty mulch]

also good choice

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-german-flag-germany-trikot-gif-12722037627503073743

[oak current]

Make me wonder if he's a native american

[covert elbow]

No im just American

[pine ember]

Why does he look like 2 of my friends

[pine ember]

Ohhhh

[covert elbow]

Cause he’s German and all Germans are clones

[silk igloo]

Ideally there would be only 1 squad on defense, hunting down recon and airdrops, while all the other squads would take their sector and either drive the enemy away (all the way to their strongpoint) or keep the enemy outside of the defense soft cap at least. Preferably all enemy presence in the blue gets destroyed, and the attack, some 600meters wide, pushes frontally. This requires all of the infantry squads though, so the more flankers you have using red garris, the more gaps you'll get, or the smaller your defense circle becomes

[pine ember]

Im a Native German

[pine ember]

Yes, and we all like Beer and Autobahn

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/fast-car-go-vroom-gif-21755410

[pine ember]

Why is he so slow?

[covert elbow]

Probably going a bit slower for the camera

[pine ember]

Ah right

It reminds me of my friend who once drove from Bavaria to Berlin in 3 hours

[wind shore]

So why it would be better to have 200 players

More people on different tasks

[silk igloo]

The more denser the map is, the more impossible it becomes. Hence why frontlines like this naturally occur on open maps like Kursk and Foy. No need for defense if the enemy simply cannot get there without fighting their way through first

[pine ember]

100 players is perfect

[silk igloo]

So even more ideally there would be only the commander on defense, in case of airheads, and even enemy recon wouldn't be able to get through